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a little Cougar bite. Want to get into a SoundBite

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from tanner Wall. Tannerwall, it's done great things on and

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off the football field. We're gonna highlight him today. This

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is some postgame postgame commentary from Tannerwall, the the senior

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free safety that's been balling out for Brigham.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Some postgame commentary from Tannerwall BYU Free Safety.

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Speaker 4: I've been a part of all three of those wins,

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so I mean to be able to say, you know,

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leaving this place, I never lost to Utah. I'll wear

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that with a lot of pridet for the rest of

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my life. But it was grateful for our coaches, all

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our teammates, best fans in the world too.

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Speaker 3: Atmosphere tonight was unreal.

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Speaker 4: As el just said, it's grateful to you know, to

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win and be one step closer to our goal.

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Speaker 3: I grew up loving b YU.

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Speaker 4: I bleed blue ever since I came.

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Speaker 3: Out of the roomb.

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Speaker 4: I've watched a lot of these games. I remember, you know,

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dog Pilon with my grandpa and my dad and my

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uncles back to Harlen. Right, these moments are the ones

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that I grew up watching over and over again. So

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to be a part of, you know, a stretch here

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in my career where I've.

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Speaker 3: Never lost to them, it feels really good. And I

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don't want to make that about me at all.

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Speaker 4: With just a huge shoutout and a lot of props

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to Kloni and the way that he's running this program.

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There's been a great shift even amongst recruiting in the state.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think we've seen that we continue to win on

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big recruits who are being recruited by both US and them,

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and I believe that this is the start of an

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even longer streak of wins for us in our program

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over them all.

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Speaker 3: Right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's Tanner Wall post game Duff Tittle, who's a part

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of the sports information department down there at BYU. He

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states this about Tanner Wall. In thirty years at b YU,

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I've never worked with anyone quite like Tanner Wall. To

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your starter team captain, He's a part of the AFC,

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a good works team, first Team Academic All American. Mary

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graduated with a three point eight to nine GPA in

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finance and does more service than anyone.

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Speaker 3: He's a BYU football all timer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you could sense, you know, Tanner his confidence heading

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into this game. And then you hear the validation of

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all of the hard work paying off in the post game.

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In fact, during the game, and you can watch this

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in the cut. Jay Hill defensive coordinator got on the

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phone with Tanner Wall and they were chatting, you know,

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and it ended up pretty much then both say, hey, man,

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love you, love you. That's a player coach trust dynamic.

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That is very unique, that is very special. Tanner Wall,

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in my opinion, became immortalized in this rivaly game with

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Speaker 3: That iron t in many.

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Speaker 2: Ways sealed the deal for the Kougs and sealed the

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fate of the University of Utah in this rivalry game

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Holy War in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I pointing the football.

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Speaker 2: And then furthermore, like in his I think he chatted

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with BYU Sports Nation there he stated this, maybe we

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can play this for Cougar Nation as well, but I'll

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just quote it really quick for all you Cougar fans

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in Cougar Country. He states this, their drop back past

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concepts are pretty basic, and we didn't think Devin Dampier

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was a great passer down the field between the hashes,

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and that kind of showed.

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Speaker 3: But he didn't say it in an arrogant manner.

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Speaker 2: He said it as a matter of fact, this is

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what we saw on film, this is what we planned for.

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Let's listen in this was the BA Sports Nation inner

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view in the post game with Tanner Wall.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about your interception and the scout and the

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preparation that went into you going out executing and making

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that play. What did you see and how were you

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able to take that ball away?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all week we talked about how we

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got to get him into second and longer, third and

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longer situations where they would be throwing the ball because

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their their dropback pass concepts are pretty basic. And we

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didn't think that he was a great passer down the

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field between the hashes, and I mean that kind of showed.

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Speaker 3: And in that tonight, you know, he was attacking.

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Speaker 6: Underneath pretty quickly to the to the flats, but didn't

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really love have a lot of confidence thrown it deep

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Speaker 3: He did, he was able to go capitalize on that.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I think, as I mentioned, we had

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a big focus on on stopping the run on first

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and second down and getting them into third and longer situations.

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Speaker 3: That's t wall Tanner.

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Speaker 2: Wall and Tanner actually chimed in on duff Tittle's post said,

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Daphin's in his team. Tires are tiresly dedicated team or

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the reason so many Berry student athletes get recognized for

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the things we do on and off the field.

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Speaker 3: He's behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: He's a behind the scenes here that we can never

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think sufficiently or Kook fan should be blessed to know

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duff Tittle as a part of that sid team. So

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tennorwall Uh solidifying himself in the archives of BYU football

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history with his play on and off the football field.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to t wall He had himself a day.

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Speaker 2: He became the Big twelve co Defensive Player of the Week,

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and quite honestly, like, you know, why didn't they just

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give it to him outright with his play? Well, there

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was others that were there in the Big twelve balling

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out too, and even one of his teammates, Mama Telsata Walla,

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also had himself a game. I feel like we need

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to give a lot of credit to Jay Hill, but

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the other person I want to give a lot of

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credit to is Gavin Fowler.

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Speaker 3: No one really knows about Gavin Fowler. They really don't.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Fowler is essentially the safeties coach for BYU football

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right now. I know Jay Hill has that title as

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defensive coordinator and safeties coach, and Gavin Fowler is essentially

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an analyst, an offensive coach, analyst for or sorry, a

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defensive coach analysts for this defense. But day in and

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day out, standard operating procedures dictate that Gavin Fowler is

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coaching up that crew. He's the one monitoring the substitutions.

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He's the one inserting and you know, I guess benching

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Speaker 3: So just so everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: Tanner Wall and follow Tower Southawala didn't. I don't think

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they came out of the game one time. That's that's

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my era type of stuff that hasn't been happening in

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a long time. And granted there's been some injuries right now.

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Tommy moved to Nickel, he got injured. Raider de Moonei

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got injured last week, right and so he was out.

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been inserted in it at strong safety or free safety.

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He's played both in this defense. I find it interesting

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that Gavin left Tanner and follow Taut in the game,

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the entire game, every defensive snap, Tanner and follow Tower

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on the fields. That's different than what we've seen since

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like twenty sixteen. It was somewhat of a norm under Bronco.

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Like you didn't get as many rotations with Bronco in

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the second area or in the second level with linebacks.

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You always see rotations with defensive line. But I gotta

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give some love to Gavin Fowler. Guys, I got a

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name that you don't know about that decided to leave

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his tenured and his young talent on the field as

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they crescendoed their play like they got better and better

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throughout it all. They stayed consistent as well throughout it

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all in the biggest game of their careers.

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Speaker 3: AP your thoughts, well, I.

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Speaker 7: Think along these lines, Gavin Fowler is one of the

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most underrated coaches on the staff. He's got an incredibly

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high football IQ. He came I believe he came in

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as a player. He was a quarterback. Yeah, he was

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a quarterback. He's Davis, I think and then and then

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he was the holder, and I think he played some

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and then he but he converted over to more of

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you know, holder specialist because he knew like he knew he.

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Speaker 3: Had his eyes set on coaching.

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Speaker 7: He's like, he's one of the most versatile coaches because

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he played so many positions at the collegiate level that

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he can bound Like. I don't think fans understand just

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how smart Gavin Fowler is. He's also in charge of

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grading the players on defense. He's the one who produces

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those for the defensive staff, how well players played. He's

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the one who grades every single player on the on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love what Gavin's doing. He deserves a lot

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of credit. He deserves his flowers. Top graded PFF safeties

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through week eight, by the way, Fiala taus Satawala at

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eighty two point three he's fourth on the West Coast Okay,

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and then Tanner Wall coming in at number seven at

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seventy eight point two from BA. The two safeties graded

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at the top of it all. Shout out to both

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of those safeties. Shout out to Gavin Valer and Tanner Wall.

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Speaker 2: A number of BA you Cougar football players address the

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to the sound by Jack Kelly, p YU linebacker Jack,

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how do you feel in health wise right now?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 8: The shoulder didn't feel like a guy anywhorse, so no

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setbacks there. Obviously it was a physical game, so the

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body's pretty sore, but overall doing really good and then

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good health.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, how did we feel about Jack Kelly's performance? Leman,

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Brett Hammer, Andrew Peterson.

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Speaker 9: I mean, if we're being honest, I didn't know what

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we were gonna really see from Jack Kelly.

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Speaker 3: We knew they were.

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Speaker 9: Gonna say that he was gonna play because it was Utah,

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but what it actually looked like was gonna be a

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completely different story.

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Speaker 3: Look was Jack Kelly one? No?

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Speaker 9: But was Jack Kelly a lot better than I thought

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he was gonna be just in terms of how healthy

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he looked. Yeah, there were parts of the pass rush

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that I'm sure were just it's hard to get the

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leverage to move guys around with that shoulder rotation when

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you don't have it. But outside of that, in coverage

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he looked great. Tackling was a little spotty at times,

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but I thought he did a really good job of

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when he couldn't lay guys out, he would just hold

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on to him until somebody else could help finish the tackle.

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So his presence in coverage and being a body where

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he needed to be, I thought he did a really

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great job for us. Healthy as he is, I'd give

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him a really high.

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Speaker 7: Grade for how he played ap Yeah, I thought, like

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just full transparency. I was in the rock, So just

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from my man vantage point, it felt like a normal

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Jack Kelly game like we got.

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Speaker 3: Was it his best game ever? No? But was it

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still a really good game.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, he got a he got the the you know

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that fourth down.

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Speaker 2: Sack, seven tackles, five solo, one sack, one TfL. Yeah,

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he closed out the game with that great speed rush

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forsus Spencer Fano. Spencer Fano was having fits all night

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having a match up with Tawo see Lee now Cy

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and Jack and Isaiah.

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Speaker 7: So like the the the positive about his injury is

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it doesn't really like the thing it's gonna hamper is

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his tackling ability.

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Speaker 3: Is that shoulder strong enough to maintain your.

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Speaker 7: We did see and he mounts off some tackles, But

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does Jack still have that closing speed?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And that was the difference maker I think was

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the closing speed that if he couldn't get to Devon,

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he at least made Devon uncomfortable to move.

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Speaker 7: And then somebody else came and finished the point exactly.

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And so I felt like it was a very productive game.

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And I think the backup step stepped up in any

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way when Glasger went went down or if Jack wasn't

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on the field, I felt the backups played very nicely.

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You didn't have a moment with the linebacker group where

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you're like, oh, there's a huge drop off here.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: You grew up in the state of Utah, So tell

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us how important is that robbery game to you?

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Speaker 8: It's super fun. I'm two competitive teams that want to win.

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So I think the environment was great. Kugarnation really showed out.

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Like I said, good football was played and uh yeah

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it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, it's a big game.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive game for him and h But he's

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also kind of a stoic. You look at all these

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football players, you know, how many like really dynamic personalities

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do you have on this team? You know, Justin Kirkland's

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a new dynamic.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Justin Kirkland is the one that we

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wanted to like everyone.

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Speaker 7: Else seems pretty like even Keel, Like you've got Keanu

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out of Like you basically know what Keanutanovas is gonna say.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like your state president, right. He sounds like

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you're zone leader on a mission.

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Speaker 7: Chase, same thing, like you know what you're gonna get,

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Like there's only the only player I feel like we

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played sound from that you don't know what you're gonna get, Okay,

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I say, I say, Trey, you could probably get something

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out and if Maury was doing media this year, you

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might be able to get something out of him.

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Speaker 3: But for me, that's probably it. That's it. Everybody else's

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you know, you haven't heard much from Jojo because he's hurt.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I'm trying to think, like, who's the loudest

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personality on this team. It's like it's hard because they're even,

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like even and yeah, like but it's it's hard to

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find a guy who would be like, oh, yeah, he's loud,

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Like I think they're loud for b y you guys,

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but I don't know that like on Yeah, when I

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think of the loud personalities and dynamic personalities, like everybody

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to your point, it's pretty even keeled, pretty mellow.

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Speaker 3: They're just they're just focused on ball. Like you don't.

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You don't have a Williams where you don't know what's

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coming out of his mouth. Next loved Jamal loved Jamal.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, that was such a good interview this last week

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if you miss check it out on the podcast. He

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was talking about how there was bishops everywhere on campus

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that was every quarter to the bishops of the locker room,

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bishops of the math department, bishops everywhere man. Anyway, Jack Kelly,

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how do you bounce back and refocused after such an

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emotional win over the Utes?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we need to do a better job

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this year compared to last year.

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Speaker 3: With that.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, the game is over, we won, We're happy about

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the result, but we need to focus on this week.

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We got to play Iowa State. They're a great team,

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and we really just got to be locked in on

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this weekend. Put that one in the past.

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Speaker 2: Locked in on who Rock Obeck? Yeah, I haven't watched

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right Rock Obeck. That's what the scouting reports. We heard

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Kellane's scouting report on him. Let's get Jack Kelly's scouting

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report on the Psyclones.

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Speaker 3: Rock Obck good quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't watched too much as of right now,

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but he's got a great arm. He has great accuracy,

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so it's gonna be a big thing to keep him

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in the pocket and get pressure in his face.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Rocco does far.

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Speaker 2: The season has been very good, and I don't know

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if you can really put any of the losses on Roco.

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You could, you could maybe say that the Colorado game

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that you know, they only put up seventeen points. Cincinnati

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Colorado they could be. We discussed who the Kansas teams

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are from last year, like who's in the Big twelve

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is gonna end up being the Kansas of this year

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and Colorado who's the favorite? I mean, Cincinnati has just

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been winning. They've been finding ways to win weekend week out.

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They're they're what there are only a one loss team

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right now and there are one loss was to Nebraska

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to start the season.

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati is your second highest scoring offense in the Big Twelve,

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by the way, crazy, which I think when we're talking

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about who's the Kansas from last year? Because Kansas last

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year was and still kind of of this year. They

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could score with anybody. The problem was did their defense

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show up, And more times than not, it did not.

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Speaker 3: Which is why they were in so many one score games.

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati your second highest scoring offense in the Big twelve.

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That to me is your Kansas from last year. So

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that's gonna be a tough one. And the fact that

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that was Iowa State's loss, like I do think it

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says a little bit because we thought Iowa State was

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the other big dog in the Big Twelve with Texas Tech.

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Now because of what Cincinnati has done, we don't necessarily

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believe that anymore. But we also don't think Iowa State

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is a pushover. Iowa State, for context, is the twelfth

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scoring offense in the Big Twelve so which twenty nine

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points per game, So it's not like they're not scoring

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at all, like this is just a high scoring conference.

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Speaker 2: What role in your opinion, Jack Kelly? Number five, what

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does what role does sports science department play with this

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team right now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So he has different machines in different tactics he uses

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that really work, and it's just, like like you said,

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more science based. So it's little things like modern just

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changing things in the weight room and doing things like

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that that help our bodies still feel good. But we

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still get the right amount of work in and continue

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to stay up on and not slack on any work.

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Speaker 2: Love what Skyler, Maine, Briant, Phillis Golby gloss and they're

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doing in that strength and conditioning and even in the

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athletic training room. Number six, what have you seen from

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the young defensive depth on this team?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they are great players. The amount of work they've

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put in, just extra time, extra film, asking questions, They've

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done a phenomenal job and they have the want to

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get better, which is a huge thing, and then when

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they've got their opportunities, they've made play. So it's been

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great to see them and they have really bright futures.

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Speaker 2: Who's been the biggest surprise of the twenty twenty five

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season thus far offensively, defensively, if you want to chime

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in with the special teams as well, biggest surprise you

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know where you're like, wow, Like I didn't expect this

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from them, to.

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Speaker 7: Be honest, I looked up during that Utah game and

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I saw Max Alford get that sack on Devin Dampier.

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Like we've heard a lot about the linebacker depth, but

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when we talk about line depp Well linebacker depth. We

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were saying, as Kafusi, I've been really high on him,

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Cilia Sarah maybe a.

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Speaker 3: Miles haul in there.

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Speaker 7: I haven't heard that much about Max Alford and he's

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going out there making big plays in the biggest game

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of the year so far. For BYU, I've been really

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surprised and pleasantly surprised. Not that I didn't really believe

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in him, but you never know, with like a Utah

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State transfer coming in, if they can translate to the

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power forward level. I've been really pleasantly surprised with his

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ability so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep on thinking, is that SIONI moo, No,

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that's Max Alfred, number thirty out there running on the

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football field looking good. We highlighted him on our show

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after I believe the second strimmage in fall camp because

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Jay Hill went out of his way to highlight him.

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And now we're seeing that he's truly a baller. He's

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a really good football player. Who's been the biggest surprise,

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would you say, Brett Hammer?

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Speaker 3: I think cialis aiah.

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Speaker 9: As you mentioned, he deserves a ton of credit because

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we talk so much ad nauseum about this linebacker room

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and what Isaiah Glasker does and what Jack Kelly does

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and Sialia Sarah stepping in for Jay Bryant Strather who's

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also out cialis Ara Doo deserves a ton of credit.

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The person who I have my eye on a little

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bit and I didn't play last week because he got injured,

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but he showed up big in that Arizona game was

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Raider Mooney.

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Speaker 3: And look, the safety room is full right now.

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Speaker 9: The safety room, it just feels like there's not any

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reps to go around. Raider de Mooney said, no, no, no,

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I'm gonna be getting some of those because I'm making

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plays out on the field the plays he makes in

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the backfield.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these safeties almost just.

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Speaker 9: Feel like hybrid linebackers, Like they are not afraid to

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get in the backfield, They're not afraid to tackle, They're

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not afraid to get between the tackles.

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Speaker 3: And make stops the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 9: This safety room has been awesome, And Raider de Mooney,

473
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I hope he get him back soon because he's been

474
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awesome as well.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for me on the defense side of

476
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the ball, be honest, Like, I did not expect Folatow

477
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to be this goodes anyone that expects Folatow to just

478
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be this good. Twelve tackles, okay, Like I'm looking at

479
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his stat line, eight solo, one TfL one pass defended,

480
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a forced fumble. He had a forced fumble too, like like, look,

481
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I know he was a four star, but like I

482
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did not, judging off of what he did last year,

483
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I did not expect him to crescendo into twelve tackles,

484
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eight solo, one TfL one pass deflected and a force

485
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fumble in the Holy World. I did not expect that

486
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the biggest hit in the rivalry one of the biggest

487
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hits in the rivalry game that we've seen in a

488
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long time.

489
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Speaker 3: Like he just annihilation. He killed a man. That play

490
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was awesome. Yeah, I mean it's just.

491
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Speaker 2: Like folatow I salute you man like look And granted

492
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he was playing at a position last year. He was

493
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at free safety, but they I think he was at

494
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a position because they he's a true freshman. They want

495
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to protect him a little bit, you know, bring him

496
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up to speed. Even in fall camp though, I mean

497
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he had he had a good fall camp, there's no doubt,

498
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but he was able to tally a lot of iron

499
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t's that just kind of floated to him.

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Speaker 3: They just came. They just came to him.

501
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Speaker 2: And I chalked that up to you know, McKay and

502
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Tracon and bear inexperience. I'm like, okay, Like he got

503
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a lot of picks, but look what he's doing, Like

504
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he's not even picking off passes necessarily, but he's just

505
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balling out. He has flipped the script for me, and

506
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he's way more physical than I expected him to be

507
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as a true sophomore.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to follow tout.

509
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Speaker 2: He is putting himself into a draftable position very very quickly.

510
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Speaker 3: Is it at strong safety? Probably not.

511
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Speaker 2: It's probably more of a hybrid safety linebacker type of

512
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position because he can cover. I'm intrigued to see what

513
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his speed is when he's testing out. If he can

514
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stay lean and he can get faster than maybe it

515
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:07,359
is strong safety for him at the NFL level.

516
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Speaker 7: Is he playing like a Chase Hansen did at Utah?

517
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Speaker 3: Does he remind you a little bit of that? Yeah,

518
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:13,400
Chase Hansen.

519
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good cop because Chase came in

520
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as a quarterback, moved immediately to safety, and then was

521
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kind of in this hybrid role similar to Zane Anderson.

522
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,279
Sane Anderson was also a safety who moved down into

523
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what we would deem as the sam linebacker position, but

524
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he was a he could he could cover and then

525
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:34,680
rotate back into the safety position. Now, now Zaying has

526
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leaned out in the NFL and he's playing free. Yeah,

527
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,079
so maybe file Oftal has those same uh, those same

528
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abilities is that of Zay train? Now, last thing from

529
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240
Jack Kelley and will take a brief time out. What

530
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,559
have you seen from Bear Bachmeyer in this offense, and.

531
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Speaker 8: He looks even more comfortable and confident each and every week.

532
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,039
He's making some great throws, great runs. The whole offense

533
00:26:57,079 --> 00:26:59,839
has done a phenomenal job. Oh line's been killing it

534
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,440
with giving Bear time or giving him the.

535
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Speaker 3: Right blocks, the right reads.

536
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Speaker 8: So, uh, the whole offense has been awesome to watch.

537
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,119
They've been big plays after big plays, and yeah, you

538
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,319
can't forget l J. Martin breaking runs every game. So

539
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,799
it's been awesome to watch the offense.

540
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,759
Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest surprise offensively, I mean, we're all

541
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:20,680
just gonna say, Bear, how could you not spare?

542
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 7: It's like the only competition is I didn't I know,

543
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,680
I know Ron's been high him. I didn't expect Parker

544
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,960
to be railing off und I was so wrong on Parker,

545
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,400
and I'm so happy to have been so late. I

546
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:33,920
always knew he had the speed. I just that doesn't

547
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,079
always translate, you know, And I just didn't quite know

548
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if he had the size or if he was gonna

549
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really if he was gonna make that jump.

550
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Speaker 3: But it is.

551
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Speaker 7: It's absolutely Bear because during the off season it was

552
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that the narrative was we need a game manager. Let's

553
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,319
put to bed that bear is a game manager. Yeah,

554
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because he put Byu on his back and won that

555
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,599
hole Game four. But he used a different type of quarterback.

556
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We did not expect.

557
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Speaker 2: I'm like, we knew he could run, we didn't know

558
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,400
he would have to run for twenty two or fifteen

559
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,240
times a game in order to win football games. He's

560
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:14,319
been accurate enough with his throw game, and I would say.

561
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: He's been dynamic enough in this throw game.

562
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: It's not in a traditional Byu sense of a vertical.

563
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 9: Passing and he can't do that, and extending he can't,

564
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,079
Like it's not his strength, but he's able to.

565
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: It's not Zach Wilson vertical game. And it's not Sharon

566
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,039
Hall vertical game. It's not Keaton Slova's even vertical game.

567
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,759
Like if sorts arm strength is concertain. But that ball

568
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,640
he put on Chase Roberts on the sideline over the top,

569
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,519
the chop top throw, kind of this top shelf throw.

570
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:52,000
That that that John Beck describes, that's a phenomenal throw.

571
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,799
Speaker 3: It really is. He's the right handed Tim Tebow. Steve

572
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,720
Clements was right. He was right. He's the right handed

573
00:28:58,759 --> 00:28:59,720
Tim Tebow. Right now.

574
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Speaker 7: It's funny because I remember I watched him do that

575
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,599
point two yard run and when he juked, it's like

576
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
it's a slower taste him. And then when he ran

577
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over and through the pile of defenders, I was like,

578
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:16,160
that's Tyler Algier, Like that's what Tyler Algeer would do.

579
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Speaker 9: It is funny how slow, Like he's not slow, but

580
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,559
like when he runs, you're almost watching the play happen

581
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,440
in slow motion, if you understand what Like when he

582
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,960
when he got to the first down on that touchdown und,

583
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,759
I was like, okay, cool, he's gonna go down and

584
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,359
then he just kind of mosies and motors and rumbles on,

585
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,039
but he's not like I mean, yeah, he's just not

586
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,200
doing it at high speed.

587
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Speaker 3: It's effective and it works and it's awesome. Bear.

588
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:46,039
Speaker 9: I think it's not what any of us expected day, yes,

589
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,880
because he's.

590
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,759
Speaker 3: Like he's almost like a he's like a corgy centaur.

591
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:51,480
He's got really short legs.

592
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Speaker 2: He's got really short legs, but he's like a he's

593
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:55,200
like a he's a I.

594
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Speaker 3: Don't know why it's to see the.

595
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Centaur, because like he's not fast top end speed, but

596
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,119
he's quick, he's dynamic, shifty because he got short legs

597
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,240
and they're really big and he's just super quick side

598
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:12,640
to side.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's like and he's winning games the same way

600
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Tim did. Tim Tebow, did I look. I was looking

601
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at that two thousand and six Florida team. Yeah, they

602
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:23,079
had some one score games over like a South Carolina,

603
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,400
unranked and unranked Georgia, and those teams obviously are I

604
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,799
put those those teams over Colorado.

605
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Speaker 3: And in Arizona.

606
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Speaker 7: But like it's a similar manner of just just get

607
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the job done. Sure, anyway you can throw it running,

608
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just get it done.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's our segment, Little Jack Kelly, little player profile reading

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between the Lines, a little cougar byte there as we

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break down all the sound bites of the day.

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Speaker 3: You've heard Blaine on the show.

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Speaker 2: He does fantastic work and he's been supporting the BYU

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a little player profile in this segment. We're gonna get

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to know Whylan Lapuahu in this BYU offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Now, Waylan was a little bit dinged up.

649
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: We didn't get to see Waylan at full force throughout

650
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,480
the entirety of this year.

651
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Speaker 3: And finally he's getting back.

652
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 2: Into the groove and balling out for Brigham number sixty one.

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Speaker 3: But he's been rotating too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sonny Ma Cassini has been in there and

655
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,640
blocking at a high level. Austin Leousa, Kyle Surfer Choke.

656
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,559
There's a lot of good offensive linemen on this roster

657
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and Waylan is the six foot fourth hundred ten pounds

658
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senior out of South Jordan, Utah.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: He's been a starter since the day that he came

661
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into the college football world. He started at Utah State

662
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and then he transferred to BYU, where he became an

663
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immediate starter. He's a co captain in twenty twenty four

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he was All Big twelve Third Team All Big twelve

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Honorable Mention named Phil Steele preseason All Big Twelve fourteen,

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and he continues to ball out for Brigain. We're gonna

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Wait Land Lapo b yu off. It's a lot at

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number sixty one. Walk us through pushing Bear carrying Bear

683
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Bachmeyer into the end zone.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, uh, we all know this Bear doesn't

685
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,599
go down, so you know, just falling behind him and

686
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just seeing where he was gonna be. Yeah, I knew

687
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he was gonna be stood up, so I knew there

688
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was an opportunity to push the pot. I don't know

689
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
it was gonna be right there at the goal line,

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but I knew it was gonna come. So just just

691
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following him down down the field, you know, and just

692
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just trying to make a play for the team. You know,

693
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Bear's always trying his best to keep the play going.

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So as the on line, we have a philosophy of

695
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a big brother either go pick him up or or

696
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push him up, push him for a couple of X yards.

697
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So we had the opportunity to do that, which was

698
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pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: The real MVP what do you say, the real MVP

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wa Lapoo finishing the play, not giving up on his

701
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brethren picking him up. It's the old adage, the old

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picture in all of our all of our church meeting rooms.

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You know, where the footprints, Hey, why why don't I see?

704
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,880
Why don't I see two sets of footprints? You know,

705
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,920
is carrying you off, Whalan, Whalen, Why don't I see

706
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,599
an extra footprints set of footprints? Why weren't you running

707
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:36,360
next to me? Why aren't you blocking with me? And

708
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Whyland says, that's where I picked you up. I'd lifted

709
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,039
you into the end zone. That's when you scored the

710
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,280
touchdown because I lifted you up. I carried you on

711
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,440
my shoulders like the lamb, like the the the ninety nine.

712
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:56,519
Speaker 10: And one my favorite part about that though, what he

713
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:58,719
just said was it's like a big brother, you rather

714
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,000
pick him up and push them And he was about

715
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,679
to say push him down, but he's had pushed him through.

716
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: I was like, that is such a big brother thing.

717
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,119
Depending on their mood, they'll pick you up or they'll

718
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,639
just true just push them down.

719
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,159
Speaker 2: Oh man, Whaling, great job, great work the real MVP.

720
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,679
What strides Wayling have you seen from this offensive line

721
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:24,280
and how this group performed so well against Utah?

722
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,039
Speaker 11: I think it's just our preparation throughout the week. We

723
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,880
knew we had to win the line of scrimmage, especially

724
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,519
later in the game. You know, the run games kind

725
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:34,800
of like a compound interest. You know, it gets harder

726
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960
for them to defend it later in the game, as

727
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
long as we keep keep our physicality up and just

728
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:40,960
keep pushing the line.

729
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Look, preparation, preparation. If you are prepared, you shall not fear.

730
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:56,280
And this offensive line is battle tested. Okay, they have

731
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360
a great coach, they have a great culture, they have

732
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,480
a great strength and conditioning staff, have a great nutritional staff.

733
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,440
But then you also have conglomerate experience. Look at how

734
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,880
many starts they have under their belt between JUCO and transfers.

735
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,199
I mean Isaiah Johnah was a multi year starter at SNOW.

736
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:18,239
He's an All American before he ended up at Colorado

737
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,039
and then now at BYU. Obviously, Andrew Gentry starter at

738
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:26,800
Michigan and a rotational player at Michigan for years as

739
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,920
they made their quest for a national championship and got that.

740
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:34,079
So he's seen it all and done it all. Bruce

741
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,880
is like the youngest out of all of them. Brucey,

742
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,800
your center is the youngest. Wayland's been a four year starter.

743
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,000
Austin Leusa was a starter at SUU. Kyle Servituer starter

744
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,679
at SUU and then came to BYU. Like, these are

745
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,679
battle tested dudes. Sonny Makassini's been in the program for

746
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,199
a long time. We've been hearing his name for a

747
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,280
long time and he's seen rep since last year. So

748
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,119
you got Sonny and Brucey who are kind of like

749
00:37:56,199 --> 00:38:01,760
your your youngest and so it's that combined with proper

750
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,360
preparation from proper coaching.

751
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,599
Speaker 3: That's what you got right now. And they were awesome.

752
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:14,519
Speaker 2: They were balanced, physical, they were extremely engaged. Did they

753
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:18,159
hold a little, Yes, thank goodness, they did. You're supposed to.

754
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:21,480
If you're not holding, you're not trying as an offensive

755
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,079
line and let the Zebras make the calls. You hold

756
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,679
for a one one thousand and two and then you

757
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,159
let them go one one thousand and two is they

758
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,760
get separated from me, then you let go, and more

759
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,239
often than not you can get away with it. That's

760
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,639
what you're supposed to do. It's what all the other

761
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:38,239
teams have been doing. I guarantee you Tah has been

762
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,679
doing it for a long time. They just weren't as

763
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,800
good as b Why you went at hiding it this

764
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,440
last week?

765
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 7: I think it's just if you're screenshotting and circling holds

766
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,119
on the offensive line, It's like you can do that

767
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880
on literally every football play. That's how you block, you

768
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,199
grab their jersey a little bit. It's just when you

769
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,159
get a little bit too excessive that you get a

770
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,880
and so I agree with you. It's like guys offensive

771
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,119
linement hold. It's like corners they hold. You can call

772
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,320
a hold on every play.

773
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

774
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 7: Like, let's I know U tough ends are mad, they're

775
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,000
circling and screenshotting. It's like, do you want us to

776
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,639
do that on your end? We can because Utah's off.

777
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,079
There's the line had plenty of holds that were not called.

778
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,159
But it's like they're just playing football.

779
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 9: And that's how the officials chose to officiate the game,

780
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,039
which was and you see that a lot in games

781
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,239
where they know it's a heated rivalry where they just say, Okay,

782
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,320
we're gonna let you play. When it gets extra excessive,

783
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,679
that's whe're gonna when we're gonna step in and throw

784
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,079
the flag. But anyone who watched that game knows, yes,

785
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,559
Utah held, but we also know that BYU also held.

786
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: Again, That's why I.

787
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 9: Had issues with the past interference calls at the end

788
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,599
of the game, not because they were or they weren't,

789
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:54,119
but because the precedent that the officials had set throughout

790
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,079
the entirety of the game was We're gonna let them

791
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,239
play until it becomes excessive. And so to your point, like,

792
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,440
that's just how they chose to call the game on Saturday.

793
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: Waylan, you were injured to start the season, But how

794
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,679
are you feeling now?

795
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 11: Man, I'm feeling great pretty much at one hundred percent now.

796
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:18,000
You know, I had to deal with some small minor

797
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:19,320
injuries earlier in the season.

798
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: But I'm feeling good.

799
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: Now, feeling better, feeling good, I'm feeling healthy.

800
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:32,599
Speaker 3: What's that feeling good? I almost said the same good shit.

801
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a good jam. It's a good, great song,

802
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,719
no doubt about it. And Waitlan, feeling good? Like you

803
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,920
should shout out to number sixty one? Now, Whyalan? Seems

804
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,519
like the offense has been rotating a lot of guard.

805
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 3: What is that like for you?

806
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 11: You know, to be honest, it's been nice. I'm taking

807
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,480
some snaps off off of my body and you know,

808
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,679
just being able to be healthy later in the season,

809
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,239
and props to Uh Sunny Kyle and Austin to uh.

810
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,519
I think we're all pretty solid and we're all good

811
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,719
enough to start, so, you know, just having that rotation

812
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,480
and taking snaps off off of our body has been

813
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:09,400
it's been nice.

814
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: Pros and cons, right, pros and cons, like yeah, you

815
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,119
you you. When you're a little bit deemed up, it's

816
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,719
nice to get a few a series off just to

817
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,320
kind of get back to maybe Homeostasius.

818
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,639
Speaker 3: And that's what it sounds like it's been for Whalan. Whalan.

819
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,519
Speaker 2: He's uh given the tip of the cap to Austin

820
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,079
and Kyle for stepping up in a big way early

821
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,960
on in the season and filling the big shoes of

822
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Whalan obviously and uh and now with Waitlan being inserted

823
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:41,480
back into the lineup, he's his priority is health late

824
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:46,360
in the season. Being healthiest is your best abilities, your availability,

825
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,440
So he wants to be available down the stretch. This

826
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:54,360
is the toughest portion of the season, strength of schedule wise,

827
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,480
there's a reason why everyone doubted b why you and like,

828
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,760
I gotta see what's gonna happen at the end of

829
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,440
the year. You know BYU has didn't played anyone just yet,

830
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,800
so I can't rank them in my top twenty five.

831
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,320
You know, whether you're David Pollock or Joel Klatt, or

832
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,800
your Josh Paid or your Nick Saban like, I mean,

833
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,559
look like they're all gonna doubt you until the end

834
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,559
of the season. So it's okay, it's all right. Now

835
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,119
we're in the meat of it. We're in the heart

836
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,880
of it, and uh, you want guys to be healthy.

837
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,480
You want your best players to be healthy, your most

838
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,639
tend your players to be healthy, and you're getting that in.

839
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,199
Speaker 3: I think Whalen speaking to that well.

840
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 7: And I think this may be something that the coaches

841
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,199
learned from last year. It felt like last year they

842
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,679
didn't really switch out the offensive line much and it

843
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,159
was a good offensive line and the backups were good too,

844
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,559
but there wasn't a ton of rotation, and towards the

845
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:42,840
end of the year it was a really beat up

846
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,760
offensive line.

847
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,119
Speaker 3: You had a lot of injuries.

848
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 7: And so maybe an underrated storyline here is I know

849
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,760
some fans are a little frustrated with the rotation of

850
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,719
the guards and everything, but it's, like Whalen said, it's

851
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,960
keeping the guys healthy. Like it's it's allowing Whalen to

852
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,239
go deeper into the season. Whereas if he was just

853
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,119
the starter, or maybe Kyle's just the starter, one of

854
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,199
them is probably down with an injury, right now.

855
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 2: You never know, guys, the wear and tear on the body.

856
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:13,920
This is a game of attrition and violence and volatilities,

857
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,039
There's no doubt about it.

858
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: So it's just good to have whyaland healthy.

859
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 2: Last game, Whaling is last game verus ioway State didn't

860
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,840
go so well for the KuPS. How much of that

861
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,599
game sticks with you, guys.

862
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 11: Man, Yeah, it definitely still left the bad taste in

863
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,079
my mouth. You know, we got handled pretty well up front.

864
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,800
I think just using that as some extra motivation throughout

865
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,719
the week and remember what happened in l E s

866
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,920
And you know, I'm trying to do it to them

867
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,519
this coming up with Saturday, yop.

868
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:52,159
Speaker 2: You give them a little piece of a little a

869
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,639
little dose of their own medicine, right, Like, that's what

870
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:58,400
you want. You want to show show up, show out

871
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,119
like they did to you guys at level. I mean

872
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:03,920
that was that was one that was rough. Two thousand

873
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,039
and three twenty twenty three was a rough game. Uh

874
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,360
BYU was in their blackouts with royal accents.

875
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: We were like, yeah, we look great, and then you

876
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:13,880
looked like trash.

877
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: You looked like doodoo, you looked like fecal matter, You

878
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:20,559
smelled like it like it was one of the worst

879
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,559
performances that I've seen it under the lights of level

880
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:27,519
in a long time. Slipping and sliding, wearing molded cleats,

881
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,519
wearing vapors rather than screw ins, raring the right cleats

882
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:35,599
on your on your own turf, on on your home field.

883
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,559
We we thought it was a home field advantage. Right

884
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:42,840
home field advantage means exactly that, knowing your home field

885
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,639
and wearing the proper attire to which from which to

886
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,599
play on it and be sure footed on it.

887
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? You know? I was ticked.

888
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: I I went to social media and I was I

889
00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:00,760
was very angry, and I was reprimanded. I reprimanded for

890
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,960
being hyper critical, and I was like, look, I think

891
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,280
I'm I'm validated in that criticism. I hate to be

892
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,159
that guy, but come on, like, I'm a part of

893
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:14,760
the team, part of BYU. I love the Koges, but

894
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480
come on, if you are prepared, you shout out feel

895
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:19,320
And we were not prepared with the proper footwear. Gosh

896
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,360
dang in that game till we better be taking the

897
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,039
proper footwear to Iowa State they also play on a

898
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:24,679
grass field.

899
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: We also were not prepared because we were black.

900
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,079
Speaker 9: When we play, when we win, or when we wear black,

901
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:32,960
we do not play well because if you remember the

902
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:34,920
last time we were black before that, do you.

903
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: Remember Notre Dame?

904
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 9: And that would didn't go our way either, So I

905
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,599
have My father in law was asking me to day,

906
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,639
He's like, how come we don't wear black anymore? I

907
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:47,119
was like, well, remind you. I would say Notre Dame.

908
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Enough set, it's too big of a that's too big

909
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:51,440
of a distrection. And I'll even go back.

910
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve blackout, Oregon State came to town. Cody

911
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,159
Vadz the backup quarterback in for Sean Man and you

912
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:00,920
guys don't remember you got were just little pups.

913
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: This was my first BAU game ever at Laville.

914
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Marcus Wheaton and I want to say, oh gosh,

915
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:12,800
another Speedster wide receiver. They just demolished us, killed us.

916
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,400
Cody Vaz looked like an NFL quarterback. It was insane

917
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,800
and we were wearing blackouts. It was not good. Well

918
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,239
it's good.

919
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 7: It's funny because my only memories from that game is

920
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,239
the one where Oregon State the ball gets batted up

921
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,079
at the line and somehow they still caught it for

922
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,199
a touchdown, and then I remember this guy behind us

923
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,239
being like, okay, guys, Riley's gonna find someone, like we're

924
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,119
gonna come back and b White. That was the moment

925
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,159
where Byu actually never answered back the rest of the game,

926
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:41,480
and I was like, wow.

927
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty two to twenty four. It was.

928
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: It was not good guys, but like there's some reason

929
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,280
that Cooks. Brandon Cooks was the other. Oh, there's only everything.

930
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,239
There's only receptions one seventy three and then Marcus had

931
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,559
five receptions sixty six and two touchdowns.

932
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 7: Well, it's like Byu has three in the blackouts, okay,

933
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,840
UNLV that was dominant. We played well that game Utah State,

934
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,559
we played well, but taysoon went out that was he

935
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,000
broke his arm or something. And then the Zach Wilson

936
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,639
over San Diego State. It was kind of a sluggish.

937
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,400
Twenty eight to ten I think was the final score.

938
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,280
It was little sluggish.

939
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: It was cold. Never wear the black.

940
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 7: There was no It's like it's like we've had one

941
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,239
so cool though, they're so cool, but.

942
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:25,639
Speaker 3: We just got to find a way to avoid you.

943
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: Black is the void. It is the void. You don't

944
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,800
know what's in the void. You know, it's the black hole.

945
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,840
It's it's it's where death can can great you, you know,

946
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,679
the the unsavory void.

947
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 3: You don't want that.

948
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 9: And the Notre Dame game when we were black, that

949
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,280
was when they had pooka fly to Vegas and do

950
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,039
the UFC uniform reveal.

951
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:47,119
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember that.

952
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,599
Speaker 9: They had like a magician who did it and he

953
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:52,719
would look it was sick. But at that moment, I

954
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,840
was like, I don't know, this might be a little

955
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,800
too much. And that's why we don't do uniform reveals

956
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,719
like that anymore because when we do, we lose.

957
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like that. We couldn't guard the tight end.

958
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,199
Michael Mayer went crazy. I mean, Michael Mayer's good. We

959
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,199
made him look like the greatest tight end effort to

960
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,679
play college football, and that's actually Gordon Hudson.

961
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,039
Speaker 3: So that was good.

962
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 7: Maybe these special helmets are the problem because helmets and

963
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:26,079
Arkansas helmets, those are mountain ones. It's like, I want

964
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:29,599
to bring those back. Those were sweet, but we played awful.

965
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,719
When we do too much, we lose distractions. Guys, limit distractions, focus.

966
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: Can we get one more hand painted helmet. No, please,

967
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,599
we will if you. If you want to lose football games, sure, yeah, yeah,

968
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,199
go for it.

969
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,039
Speaker 2: Just no more distractions, keep it, keep it simple, stupid

970
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,519
all right, this team is in a similar spot to

971
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,960
last year. How do you refocus? For Ioway stayed after

972
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,320
such an emotional game, whaling.

973
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 11: I think we're very aware, you know, the the game

974
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,400
this past weekend much time. It was a very emotional game.

975
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: So I just think.

976
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,519
Speaker 11: Just kind of letting yourself emotionally realize that and then

977
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,760
you know, letting it go. You know, it was fun,

978
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,960
it was good. But you know, just like what we

979
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,880
said last week, it's a week to week basis. We

980
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,920
got to worry about our opponent this week and almost

981
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,000
forget what happened last.

982
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,039
Speaker 2: Week, moving on, moving upward. I think that's a great idea.

983
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,079
I can't relish in the past. Let the media and

984
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,880
the fans do that as we so we can we

985
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,039
can eat, drink and be merry over our neighbors. And

986
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:39,840
by the way, speaking of neighbors, want to bring this

987
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,920
up kind of an interesting thing that just came across

988
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:53,320
my timeline here. So Jamie Beck, the wife of Jason Beck, okay.

989
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Jason Beck, the offensive coordinator, states on she's off X

990
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,719
now because of what's happened in the post game aftermath.

991
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,760
It's been really sad to see so much anger and

992
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,079
hate spewed it the people I love on social media Lately,

993
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,639
I can't wrap my head around it. I've made the

994
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,920
decision to step away from my public X account, which

995
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,280
I've had for over eleven years.

996
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,159
Speaker 3: It makes me sad to leave.

997
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:21,599
Speaker 2: I have an incredible community there, built up from every

998
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,760
stop on our football journey. There are some who have

999
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,400
been with our family since the beginning. I've watched our

1000
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,599
kiddos grow up and supported our family so much. Thanks

1001
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,039
to everyone for falling on X for the last eleven years.

1002
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,039
Grateful to have shared a small part of our story

1003
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:35,559
with so many.

1004
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: Team back on.

1005
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:44,639
Speaker 2: A lot of hate from their fans right now, even

1006
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,360
though this is what's crazy. They put up over almost

1007
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,159
five hundred yards. They out gained through the air and

1008
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,960
on the ground and out first down BYU. They had

1009
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,039
one turnover Devin dan Pierre through a pick to Tannerwall.

1010
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: Tannerwall stated in the post game.

1011
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,199
Speaker 2: You know, we felt like Devin couldn't really throw outside

1012
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,719
the hashes you know, or I think that's what he said,

1013
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,800
something to that effect, that simple, simple concepts that we

1014
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,039
were able to anticipate, and you do. Fans are taking

1015
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:21,360
that like this is the most dumb down, horrible offense

1016
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,320
that has ever been showcased in a round.

1017
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,679
Speaker 9: Oh so she's referring to hate from internally, she's not

1018
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,840
referring to b YU fans. No, because that was my assumption.

1019
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,079
But what you're saying actually makes a lot of sense.

1020
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,239
I mean a lot of that. I don't think youth.

1021
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: I don't think BA fans are like se suck on

1022
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,679
that Jason Becker right team back like, no, Like, I

1023
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,800
don't think that that's happening.

1024
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't see that. I don't. I saw a lot of.

1025
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: You though, fans coming after coordinators. So that's typically what happens. Right,

1026
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,639
Morgan's the the head coach and waiting and I think

1027
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:59,199
he's the he's a favorite amongst the fan base because

1028
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,000
of the defensive they've been so good. It's that you

1029
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,599
get you get a longer leash, right, That's just been

1030
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,039
the name of the game. Jason doesn't have as long

1031
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,719
as a leash, but no offensive coordinator under Kyle has

1032
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,119
ever ever had a leash. Ludwig was pushed out, Ludwig

1033
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:20,159
who turned down or or rather Notre Dame couldn't afford Ludwig.

1034
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:22,880
They're at Notre Dame. And so he came back to

1035
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,960
Utah and then by mid season he didn't have a

1036
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,320
job or he was getting paid out and he went

1037
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,880
to his beach house in so Caow. That's what you

1038
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,440
get up there, volatility, craziness, and and once again.

1039
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 3: It's the it's the the hubers.

1040
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 2: Like you think you're better than you really are, and

1041
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,039
you deserve more than you really do, and you should

1042
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:42,760
be in the Big ten.

1043
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,039
Speaker 3: And and like why am I in the truck trucks?

1044
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:51,119
Speaker 2: Truck stopped conference and we have the worst OC and

1045
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:55,159
you brought Devin Dampier that can't even complete a pass

1046
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,639
outside the hashes. It's all your fault, Jason. And it's

1047
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,760
all your fault, Jamie. That's what I'm seeing. It's insane.

1048
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,239
It's insane, all right, last thing from Whalen, what do

1049
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:05,639
you got?

1050
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: Uh?

1051
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,519
Speaker 2: Does it give you guys any boost to know, uh

1052
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,199
you have a bye week after this game?

1053
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 11: I think it doesn't. I think you know, just kind

1054
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,239
of what I said last week or just barely. It's

1055
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
it's a week by week thing. We got to put

1056
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,199
put it all on the line every week. You know,

1057
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,800
it's not easy to be undefeated. You you know you

1058
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,400
have a big target on your back. Everyone's everyone's un

1059
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,440
be gunning for you. So you know you just got

1060
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,559
to take each week for You can't take each week

1061
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:35,639
for granted, and you just gotta put everything you got

1062
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,039
into it.

1063
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:43,119
Speaker 2: Crazy times guys, uh uh, not even looking towards the

1064
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:44,000
the bye week now.

1065
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: Just want to keep on on that grind. That's your segment.

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Cougar Sports, We'll go to break. You're listening to the

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best show on Earth after a rivalry win.

1081
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Speaker 3: That is Cougar Sports one OZ three nine ninety eight

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point three ES