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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this episode four hundred and twelve. I am your

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<v Speaker 1>host Sean Germer, who with me is wow. First time

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. Mark Morrison is back. Yep, glad to

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<v Speaker 1>have you back, and we will be talking about games

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<v Speaker 1>column twenty twenty four, like our best games that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw announcements for some news coming out of that. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Mark wasn't here for three weeks. We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We this couldn't have happened aforehand. But poor Mark has

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to talking about Xbox and the third

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<v Speaker 1>party stuff again. We'll get to that with the one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing being an Indiana Jones release date reveal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's good or bad that that's how

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<v Speaker 1>low we've got out into one more thing being in

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<v Speaker 1>reveal for a release date on another console. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Black with Wukong, the waves that game has been making,

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<v Speaker 1>and some other stuff as well. So let's get strapped

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<v Speaker 1>in and ready for talking about all that stuff, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, just let's go ahead and get this out

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<v Speaker 1>you get what we do here with the video games stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like other things like anime entertainment that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we have shows for that as well. So on the

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<v Speaker 1>anime side, you can go watch with Talking Cafe. They

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<v Speaker 1>all the new stuff every season they're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not every freaking show, there's way too many,

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<v Speaker 1>but they review all the ones they like and they

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<v Speaker 1>do awards at the end of the end of those

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<v Speaker 1>show those seasons, so definitely worth checking out. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the movies TV side the Riolets you're broadcasting, people

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<v Speaker 1>are always doing something big. They disreviewed the Alien Romulus movie,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can definitely go check out their thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 1>They did the Accolade show as well, that unfortunately has

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<v Speaker 1>been not been renewed for a season two, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you can check out their thoughts on that, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course you're can always listen on podcasts later. I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go search any of those shows individually, video

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<v Speaker 1>games to the max but that you're broadcasting, or tak

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<v Speaker 1>with Cafe and find him on the pods of your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that out of the way, Mark, how's your

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<v Speaker 1>your time away?

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<v Speaker 2>And here it was hellish? So I'm going on back home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>All I had this for seeing. It was a tablet

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you can't really do much on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm guessing you didn't take your laptop, but you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think you were going to be there that long, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was going to be there for

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<v Speaker 2>four days, not fourteen, So right, lesson learn take a

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<v Speaker 2>laptop next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, Mark's also seen Deadpool Wolverine, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>finally get to talk about that with him. Maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the episode. But did you watch anything

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<v Speaker 1>from games Colm Opening Night Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Or what's the first one? The main show?

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<v Speaker 1>The main show?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, sign I thought the girl was pretty bad. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the co host they can never go ho.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I mean, there are obviously hosts

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<v Speaker 2>that exist or that exist. It's like, why can't you

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<v Speaker 2>just tire one of those people?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Oh, I mean, I think he just tries to

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<v Speaker 1>get different people, you know, So it's not I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he could easily just probably get Sidney Goodman or one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Andrew Rene or anybody, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that he's had on there doing the pre show before.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Kyle Boston did the pre show this year for

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<v Speaker 1>games Com. You know, he could get any of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he tries to give somebody else a

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<v Speaker 1>chance because they're in the streamer community, which draws other eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of get it, you know, but like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't always work.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, right. I guess, uh, yeah, that doesn't you know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was saying, I mean a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>chefs didn't hit well for me. Uh, but yeah, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Same here. I don't think that this was Look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, Games Calm, Opening Night Live is in

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<v Speaker 1>the third tier when it comes to the kili things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Game Awards is number one, and then Summer Game Fests

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of right up there because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>replaced the E three, even though this kind of feels

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<v Speaker 1>more like what E three used to be because you

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<v Speaker 1>have like everybody going and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you have the show floor stuff afterwards as well, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as the actual like thing, this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the kickoff to that. And yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff that is in here is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the bigger stuff that gets announced during that. This

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<v Speaker 1>the whole three or four days, I think, once you

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<v Speaker 1>find out that people have to like pay to be

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<v Speaker 1>included in here, it's not it doesn't feel as curated

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<v Speaker 1>as maybe Game Awards or the Summer Game Fest stuff does.

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<v Speaker 1>And it definitely does feel like, Okay, you got some

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<v Speaker 1>you got some decent stuff in here, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>some things in here where it's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you know, just kind of feels like an ad.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I thought that that Dune game look pretty bad. Yeah, personally,

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<v Speaker 2>especially like when they broke out like the whole base thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, like this is very complicated and not great.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was funny because I watched that Lost Records

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<v Speaker 2>Bloom and Rage trailer, yes, and like this was before

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<v Speaker 2>like the title card or whatever. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it? What does Life of Stranger can knock off?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, oh, okay, it don't not

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<v Speaker 2>making it, but yeah, do.

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<v Speaker 1>Not making their closest thing I think they've made to

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<v Speaker 1>Life is Strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't work with the IP, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right since they can't make anything with it, so I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>They we have a new Life is Strange coming out

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon, so I guess we'll see now that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don'tnut it's not working on it, even though was Dick

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<v Speaker 1>deck Nines made other Life of Strange games at this

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<v Speaker 1>point too, so it's not you know, like their first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that you did like from the show that stood

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<v Speaker 1>out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of curious about that secret level thing that

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<v Speaker 2>TV show. Yeah, show what you're gonna do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah? Got some big uh some kind of big names.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's Sony shows that I mean, cradles got of

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<v Speaker 1>Wars getting its own show one Amazon, so that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes sense that you have cradles in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be like a kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>mixture of different Sony properties. And they also got Concord separately,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if I would have made a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal about Concord.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big hit of the year, very.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunate for those devs working on that game for eight

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<v Speaker 1>years and for at the bomb like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but uh but yeah, everything else seemed fine, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was interested in the Secret Level show, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>made by the you know, Leve War Robots that it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like their take on video games with that,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like that the I watched the first season,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched the second one, and I liked it

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<v Speaker 1>well enough, so looking to kind of what they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do with that with games should be pretty good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one that drawa drew my attention because I really liked

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<v Speaker 1>Little Nightmares and Little Nimers three did show up in here,

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<v Speaker 1>But of course that's not the original dev team that's

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<v Speaker 1>making it. That's like now a kind of a dev

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<v Speaker 1>team that helped Tarshier Studios on The Nightmares two and

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<v Speaker 1>they've kind of taken that over for Van dy Namco

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<v Speaker 1>now and aw Tarsher went and they're now a Embracer

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<v Speaker 1>studio and they're making their own game called Reanimal. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>looks a lot like Little Nightmare, so you can see

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole influence. Is there a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>same kind of art style whatever. But hey, I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>for another one of those existing It looked really good

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I don't know if that's your You.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to talk about Borderlands four.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's Borderlands. I mean we really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get anything about the game other than hey, look as

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<v Speaker 1>Borderlands be excited about it. We thought we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have this amazing movie that it was gonna be hyped about,

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<v Speaker 1>and that wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, no, I didn't. I never found it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be good.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not us, I'm talking about them. I'm sure Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Pritcher probably thought, oh, yeah, this is a great like

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<v Speaker 1>one two punch, We're gonna get a big time selling

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<v Speaker 1>Borderlands movie and then we're gonna get this announcement of

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<v Speaker 1>Borderlands four and it's gonna be hyped out of the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, it didn't happen, like, yeah, I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely the biggest announcement of of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>p wise probably from like the first half of that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could argue also like the Batman Arkham

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<v Speaker 1>Shadow game, but that's also being VR kind of I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was bad actually thought like that looked.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting to me. I just hate that it's in VR.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go buy a medic Quest three

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Like, I like, I like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The the one that they had at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>was a PSVR one with the Batman where you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of uh like, do Batman stuff inside his where

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<v Speaker 1>he lives or whatever. And then this one kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like actually that you play as Batman, do the whole

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<v Speaker 1>as if you're playing one of the games.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. The first one I think was more of a

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<v Speaker 2>detective game or more right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, they showed more of that dragon Ball Sparking zero,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, we have a secret character, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>what the eighties first version of Goku, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, we've got to have another another version of

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<v Speaker 1>Goku there. That's uh uh for sure. On that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't excited about the Dying Light the Beast.

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<v Speaker 3>You I don really like Dying Like too that much, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, the whole thing is being a DLC that

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<v Speaker 3>got expanded thing always kind of worries me because either

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<v Speaker 3>turns out really decent or it turns out kind of eh,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it's more on the decent to good side. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll see on that more Monster Hunter Wild which

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<v Speaker 1>that continues to look good. I know you're a big

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but I haven't. I don't. I haven't liked

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<v Speaker 1>But this one was definitely modeled after World so you'll

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<v Speaker 2>More than I don't know. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one got a big blowout between there, and

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be a mid guar city though.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what do you think of seeing Peter Muliniu again

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<v Speaker 2>I had to talk with Gens about it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>onely game I've ever liked from him was Table three. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when everyone else hates or that, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Gens correctly said, like everyone, you know, Fable

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<v Speaker 2>one and two are like the better games. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't like him, so they're you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't like his other work or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely got the griffs going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Master Albion one looks like, you know, Fable

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<v Speaker 2>smashed with black and white. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>With the games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, especially with the hand you can pick up

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<v Speaker 2>actual game, good on them. But we'll see what screwball

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, it's interesting that he said it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>technically they can't trademark Albion because it's an old city

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's like but the yeah, the Great Britain

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I was like, well, I mean I just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go around being like, oh, yeah, it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>I would kind of shut up about that, let the

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<v Speaker 1>game come out, and then if you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't know if they necessarily once

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<v Speaker 2>He's just trying to get Microsoft to buy it from him.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably be like, hey, coming off for me some

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<v Speaker 1>of that game pass money or whatever, and see if

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<v Speaker 1>that hits it for you. Another game that I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's a Mafia the Old Country. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the Mafia games. So the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of at least they're hinting that they're going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Italy and that there's another Mafia game. I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So awesome to see that it is existing

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<v Speaker 1>and happening. Everything else was kind of like, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>know it exists. Cool that it got another trailer, like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Microsoft stuff. Microsoft came out big

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<v Speaker 1>on this thing. They had all three days, so showing

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<v Speaker 1>off games now you can kind of see why they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a Tokyo game show because they

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<v Speaker 1>elected to basically just blow out everything here at games Come.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of makes no sense for them to show

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really have a big presence, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they have anything big to show outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they have that marketing deal with Atlas for

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<v Speaker 1>the I can't think of the name right now. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>the metaphor Refantasio. Yeah yeah, so yeah. Look, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a decent show. At least Scheff didn't talk the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is good, and it felt like there wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>many ads, but again, this is because games Com pays

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<v Speaker 1>for this thing, and yeah, so it's not it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, we're just running twenty minutes of ads.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, cool. The rest of us. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>showed up on the short floor that you liked. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to watch too much of other stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like way too time consuming, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after a while it kind of starts just running into

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<v Speaker 1>like it feels like, starts feeling all the same after

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<v Speaker 1>will yep. So the the kind of the biggest news

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<v Speaker 1>out of this whole thing, which I know is not

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite thing to talk about, Mark, is Microsoft basically

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<v Speaker 1>on getting closer and closer to basically ripping off the

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<v Speaker 1>band aid and just saying, hey, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>third party. We're not going to ever tell you straight

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<v Speaker 1>up that we are, but we are. And nothing was

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<v Speaker 1>more prevalent than what they did here. As the one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing for that Opening Night Live was indianed Doones

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<v Speaker 1>in the Great Circle finally gets the release dated December ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>which damn, lots of games are starting to come out

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<v Speaker 1>in December now. For some reason, we all got to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till the end to do the Game of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year stuff. And then not only that, but oh we

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<v Speaker 1>have one more thing and it's the fact that there's

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<v Speaker 1>be a PS five version yep. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>Phil had to go on. He had an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>sarahbon where he this is with the Xbox on team,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was basically asked the question about what do

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<v Speaker 1>you what are we supposed to make of the Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>Jones announcement that close.

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<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, still doesn't know those answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, he knows those answers, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna give the answer that he wants to give basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what he said. Going to the PlayStation announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>going to the other consoles. H And he said, when

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<v Speaker 1>he sees what happened after that, they said they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna learn and all this, that he sees that the

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<v Speaker 1>franchises are getting stronger. The Xbox console players this year

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<v Speaker 1>or as high as they've ever been. So I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it and say, our player numbers are going up

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<v Speaker 1>for the console platform. Our franchises are strong as they've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been, and we run a business, and he added,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really the first time I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>ever really talked about including Microsoft in this where it

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<v Speaker 1>definitely feels like he's kind of just pretty much saying, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we now have to answer to people. We don't just

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<v Speaker 1>get to be Xbox and be on the side over here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely true inside of Microsoft that the bar is

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<v Speaker 1>high for us in terms of delivery, that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to give back to the company because we get a

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<v Speaker 1>level of support from the company that is just amazing

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<v Speaker 1>what we're able to go do. So I look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>and ensure that our platform He used to grow both

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<v Speaker 1>on console, PC and cloud, and I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a struty that works for us. He once again

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<v Speaker 1>mentions later that the business is changing, uh, and that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see this happen, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people should expect changes and all this stuff. So he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of at the end tries to turn it into

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be the only one that does this.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you're gonna start seeing this happen. Technically,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that so many has done

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<v Speaker 1>it now with the Horizon Lego game putting it on SWITCH,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that's the same. And they put

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're putting a bunch of their games on

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<v Speaker 1>PC until don remake is coming out day and day PC.

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<v Speaker 1>The Concord just came out on PC.

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<v Speaker 2>God of War rack in roccas according to Steam Charts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it did, but are people playing it? That's two

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<v Speaker 1>different things, right, And you know, is God of What

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<v Speaker 1>Random Box coming out off PC? Obviously that's a delayed

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<v Speaker 1>thing as they said they were going to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>is he wrong in that? Yes, Sony is obviously feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the hurt from they're paying too much to make their

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<v Speaker 1>games and they're having to put some of them on PC.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not doing it like this. The way Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>is doing it is just basically like they've admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>it should you can blame whatever you want to blame

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and that they need money from the other things.

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<v Speaker 1>They also got to pay off this big debt from

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<v Speaker 1>the Activision acquisition, and and be does the acquisition and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. He mentions that as well. So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point and then they also announced three other xboxes

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<v Speaker 1>at this thing, an All Digital Series X, another Series S,

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<v Speaker 1>and I forgot what the other one is, yeah, White

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<v Speaker 1>Series X.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh, the two Terrorbyte.

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<v Speaker 1>Series X, which costs six hundred dollars, which that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another whole terrorbide of swordge Uh. That's basically what

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<v Speaker 1>by the storage that they put in these things. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's correct or not, that's just what they do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure the ps prive pro I would be

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<v Speaker 1>very surprised. PSI pro is less than five point fifty honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see supposedly Tokyo Game shows when they might

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<v Speaker 1>announce that thing. Of course, they've been saying that for

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<v Speaker 1>a while every time we get to a certain point, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be announced by now, and they don't announce it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would guess to the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we know that we know the Nintendo's coming. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just whenever the heck Nintendo feels like actually announced it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an inevitability. But yeah, I remember that all the

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<v Speaker 2>switch pro rumors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, but we know the PS five pro is

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<v Speaker 1>in development, they just and they've cut I think Sony

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<v Speaker 1>They've never actually said we're going to announce it on

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<v Speaker 1>this day or whatever. But honestly, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get what Phil's doing here, right. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>he can't fully go listen, all of the stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna show up on PlayStation because then nobody will buy

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<v Speaker 1>their next box, right, and they're gonna make a next box.

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<v Speaker 1>They already said they were, they were already in development

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm sure that's costing them millions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to to be doing R and D four and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But I've seen a lot of articles come

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<v Speaker 1>out now that say that we needed, we did we deserve,

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<v Speaker 1>or we should be getting a timeline from Microsoft of

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<v Speaker 1>when these games are going to be coming to other systems,

421
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<v Speaker 1>and and that they need to just kind of embrace

422
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<v Speaker 1>the whole We're not third party, but we are going

423
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<v Speaker 1>to release our more of our things on PlayStation. Do

424
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<v Speaker 1>you kind of go that route of do you just

425
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<v Speaker 1>brand it off?

426
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean a time, I mean I want them to personally,

427
00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>but I think like a timeline idea is also a

428
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:09.119
<v Speaker 2>bad idea because they say, like, hey, every Xbox game

429
00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 2>six months and I was gonna be in PS five.

430
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, no one's gonna buy an Xbox game period,

431
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 2>or you know, an Xbox after that. Uh So they

432
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to play Coyle a little with some

433
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff. I saw the rumor that like Halo

434
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.720
<v Speaker 2>went to come to PS five, which is hysterical.

435
00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for for Horizon five was a big rumor as well.

436
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind that because the PC versions kind of busted.

437
00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 2>H So I'd probably did that. But I think I

438
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>think Halo came to PS five, that's it for Xbox

439
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:44.839
<v Speaker 2>as like a viable alter you know, console or you know,

440
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>then it's just gonna be so many versus Nintendo. It's like,

441
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.200
<v Speaker 2>who's ever gonna buy this again?

442
00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because like they have that thing with Gears

443
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 1>uh et d. Right of technically that's a Microsoft big

444
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 1>time property, Like are you also releasing that in four

445
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.279
<v Speaker 1>months on PlayStation as well? Are you going to keep

446
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 1>that one longer in the vest because they don't have

447
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>access to the other Gears games, Like that's the thing,

448
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is this one you can kind of say, well, technically,

449
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not our decision, right, and to an extent, yes,

450
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not their decision. Disney could have come and said, listen,

451
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't care about how much money you paid to

452
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>make it exclusive. We'll give you a certain window and

453
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna have to put it on PlayStation five

454
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>or on the other console because we need the most

455
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>sales as possible.

456
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that MLB game or you know the show.

457
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, could it have always been that there was only

458
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.039
<v Speaker 1>a four or five month exclusivity window and Xbox just

459
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of did this because I guess it doesn't matter, right,

460
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not their game. It's weird, right, It is weird

461
00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>because it's an Xbox studio making it, and it's going

462
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to show up not day and day, but it's going

463
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 1>to show up pretty quickly, and even before you don't

464
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>even you didn't even let it release on Xbox and

465
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 1>then kind of be out there and then say, oh, hey,

466
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.559
<v Speaker 1>it's also coming to PS five. You did it before

467
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it even came out, So like now people have the

468
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 1>option to wait, nobody's buying an Xbox, Nobody's they may

469
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 1>not even I mean, I guess it doesn't matter if

470
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody subscribes the game pass for a month and plays it,

471
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 1>and then if they want to buy it on the

472
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>PS five they can. I guess that's a win from

473
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft too. But I don't know, do you think that

474
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>their hand was forced here or did they just go

475
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.559
<v Speaker 1>ahead and do it because they don't think that it's

476
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 1>going to matter too much.

477
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it does matter to them quite a bit.

478
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a problem of they haven't been

479
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.759
<v Speaker 2>good stewards of their franchises over the past ten years,

480
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>so they're kind of you know, it's there all it's

481
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>it's a problem with their own making. And I'm sure

482
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the sales haven't necessarily been there either. I mean, what

483
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was it, like Xbox is down thirty sent this year.

484
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like their conference are like down yeah, yeah.

485
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's okay, I mean you can you can. Both

486
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>consoles are comparable power wise. I mean, but you have

487
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 2>to look at like Xbox's overall output, and you know,

488
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I think their problem is they exactly over paid for Activision.

489
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Well they didn't overpay, but they gotta have such an

490
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>activision and it's like, yo, you have existing I that

491
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you fucked up, So why are you trying to go

492
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>after this? You know, all these companies and you're not

493
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna I mean, all you're gonna care about is Call

494
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 2>of Duty anyway.

495
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're basically just trying to kind of be

496
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the ones that now we get the money from, well

497
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the Warcraft, candy Crush, Call of Duty and then whatever

498
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 1>else it is that they had, Diablo, whatever else that

499
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they happen to make, right, which in a way I

500
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 1>guess makes sense. Right, that's the biggest publisher in America,

501
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>perhaps globally even.

502
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't fault them for going after Activision,

503
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a good it's a theoretically good idea, but

504
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>like they're you know, they're going after it because their

505
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>own franchises. They're not bad franchises, but they've led to

506
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>bad outcomes. Like the only franchise that's like viable is Forza.

507
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

508
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, yo, you had you know, Gears and Halo,

509
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>and look what happened to those, Like Gears kind of

510
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 2>fell away and people are supremely unhappy with Halo.

511
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I started to come back a little bit, but

512
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 1>again it's like one of those where it's too little,

513
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>too late. You made the first impression, and then now

514
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of like, okay, great, it's like the

515
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>same thing as some other live service games where it's like, oh, great,

516
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>you're still existing, but we no longer care whether you're

517
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>still existing or not because you kind of screwed it

518
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>up the first time. You know, my issue has always

519
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>been they don't do it, and you know, even the

520
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>European market came out and said that they don't. They're

521
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>not given this huge amount of money on marketing, which

522
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>is weird for somebody to come out and say, but

523
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think that they've done a really bad job

524
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of marketing game Pass. There are so many people that

525
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 1>have no idea that thing exists, Like seriously, talking to

526
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>my no, I'm just saying from a general, non hardcore

527
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>gamer person. I was talking to my trainer the other day.

528
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>He plays games. He had no idea about game Pass

529
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and that all he had to do was subscribe and

530
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he could play it wherever, even on his phone.

531
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Or does he have an Xbox.

532
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>No, but you don't need an Xbox, that's the point.

533
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 2>No, But it's it's still an intrinsic thing. Like you know,

534
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I would never get a game pass because I don't

535
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>give a shit about playing games on a phone.

536
00:28:57.720 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, what you can play on your PC, you could

537
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>play it on another thing, you could play it on

538
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't. But I'm just saying, you know, in a Okay,

539
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an Xbox, but I mean you have

540
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 1>an Xbox one.

541
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 2>You could see no one, No one is going to

542
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>play like your trainer example. It's like you're not going

543
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 2>to tell someone, hey, get game passed to play in

544
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>a PC because a they wouldn't have a PC at all,

545
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>or if they did, it'd be some Chromebook or something,

546
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 2>they probably couldn't run the damn thing anyway. Like you

547
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>need like that hardcore. You need a modicum of the

548
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>hardcore mindset to get like to be interested in game pass.

549
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he has he has a switch and a

550
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>PS five or whatever. You know. His thing was said.

551
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it was it was a Call of Duty, right,

552
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>he was playing Call of Duty with a friend and

553
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of mentioned game pass. And then there

554
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 1>was some other I can't e with some I think

555
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Halo and I said, oh, you

556
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>know there's a game pass.

557
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>But right, yeah, but that's a that's a very bad proposition.

558
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>For him, because it's like, why would I pay you know,

559
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty five for fifteen bucks a month for twelve months.

560
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I could just buy the game for seventy bucks and

561
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>have it for the rest of the year.

562
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I get it. I'm just saying in general, I

563
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like to the people outside of.

564
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I have I have the mindset that everyone who has

565
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>an Xbox already has game Pass.

566
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I mean now they do, right, because if

567
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you had gold before they transferred you over.

568
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean that it can't be an infinitely

569
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 2>growing thing.

570
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it can't. But that that's also why this

571
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>whole idea about the console is going to go away

572
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 1>is not going to happen because they need the console

573
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in order for game Pass toward right, going on their

574
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>own game Pass, have it on the console, not on

575
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 1>something else.

576
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly like them going, I always put game Pass

577
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>on the firestick four K or whatever. It's like, okay, yeah,

578
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see a breakdown of users from each

579
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, Samsung TVs PC, con So and fire Stakes, Like,

580
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 2>what's the breakdown going to be? Well?

581
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even the the thing is you have to

582
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 1>be somebody that's a total casual gamer. That doesn't play

583
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>something like Call of Duty because even when you compare

584
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it to like the TV app, the firestick is so

585
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 1>much slower at doing everything. So that's the problem is

586
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's you know, I don't know if

587
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>if Microsoft's ever going to come out with their own

588
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 1>at their own thing that they're just going to release

589
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 1>themselves that's called Microsoft, it's called Xbox, or they're just

590
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>going to keep partnering with all these people, uh you know,

591
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 1>different TV companies that eventually get it growing that way,

592
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 1>but that it's not it's not great the options that

593
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you have if you don't own uh PC or have

594
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a device that runs cloud well, you know, so that

595
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that thing about you don't have to have a box

596
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is true, but are you really giving people the best

597
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 1>experience with the I don't have to have a box

598
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>thing either? So no, I think the technology is nowhere

599
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>near there at least for this next generation. Now after

600
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that generation, who knows what consoles are going to be

601
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>doing at that point, after the sinction, But for this

602
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 1>generation coming, there's at least going to be a box

603
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:26.079
<v Speaker 1>because there's not enough technology around for cloud gaming to

604
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>work for everybody, for even PC gaming to where even

605
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>though it feels like a lot more people are buying

606
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 1>PCs now than in the past, it feels like every

607
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>time I turn around, somebody's going, oh, I'm just gonna

608
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 1>buy a PC.

609
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

610
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess Microsoft wins that way too, because you know

611
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Windows and all that jump my I think my thought

612
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of this, and I don't know that this is kind

613
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of what I look at it as. I feel like

614
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft just looks at the Xbox now as another product

615
00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that they make, just like their surface tablets they're or

616
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever laptop or other thing that they make. We're not

617
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the market leader there, but we don't care because you're

618
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>buying our products. So as long as you buy our games,

619
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 1>whether that's call of duty avowed whatever, Indiana Jones, we

620
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 1>don't care. As long as you're buying our products, and

621
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the box is just the thing that you're gonna use

622
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>to play those games on, and we don't care whether

623
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 1>you buy that box or not either. And as long

624
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 1>as you keep buying those games, we'll make enough money

625
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 1>to keep making your box that you want. I don't know.

626
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That was the only conclusion I could think of that

627
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense for them, is that they think that

628
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 1>they'll sell it, just like they do with every other thing.

629
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is mainly a software maker that they will make

630
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<v Speaker 1>enough money off software that they can take the loss

631
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<v Speaker 1>on the hardware.

632
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that can happen. They have to have good software, no,

633
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>or let's just say it's been shaky.

634
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think Indiana Jones is going to

635
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>be good. I think A Vowed is going to be good.

636
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Is it going to be a amazing No? Probably not. Uh.

637
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the problem is that everybody wants every

638
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 1>game that they make now to be amazing, and Starfield

639
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be the first amazing one and it

640
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that.

641
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, aside from four, I'm going to discount Forest

642
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>out of this equation because that's always you know, decently good.

643
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>What's their what's their last big Triple A game that

644
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 2>was like legitimately great?

645
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Was the last like geh, Probably the Gears four was

646
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the last one that I remember getting universally praised like

647
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that at you know, bonkers.

648
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>If you're saying Gears four that was you know, eight

649
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago.

650
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because like all the Bethesda stuff was before they

651
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>bought be doesA, so that doesn't really count. And Death

652
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Loop was Death Loop was wonderfully praised, but that was

653
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Bethesda before they bought be does the two, right, So

654
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>since they bought Bethesda, if we're gonna start there, because

655
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that's basically when Microsoft really changed. I can't really think

656
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of like this game that everybody goes, oh my god,

657
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to play this outside of like small stuff

658
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 1>like Penson wonderfully loved High Fire Rush again, but it's

659
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>not something that's gonna sell your console. It's it's wonderfully

660
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 1>loved by all of us hardcore gamers.

661
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>But right, you know, I mean that's like the biggest

662
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>problem is they need five to ten hits. They need

663
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>like they need a Halo Infinite to like actually be

664
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>good and hit as hard as Halo three did, and

665
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen.

666
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 1>And I think they see that. I mean again, Indiana

667
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Jones is probably out of there. It's they weren't just

668
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 1>the one. They weren't the only ones that have a

669
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>say in that. Again, Disney can have a say and

670
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 1>tell you, look, this is what you agreed on. We're

671
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>going to shorten this window or it was always six months,

672
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 1>and then that's it. It goes to PlayStation after that

673
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is. I don't think Indiana Jones is going

674
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to be that critical hit either. It looks pretty good. Honestly,

675
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the more I see of it, the more

676
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in playing it. But again, I don't have to.

677
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I can just put it on. I can. I already

678
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 1>have game Pass. I can just put it on. Try

679
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it there if I don't like a big deal. But

680
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything like coming down the line

681
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that makes me go because you know, a valve got

682
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 1>delayed again. Again. It looks good, but I you know,

683
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they're delaying it because they know it's not

684
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna sell consoles or whatever. It's just a

685
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 1>game that that's gonna be on. It's great for game Pass, right,

686
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a thing that you can put on the thing

687
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for game pass. As hell, here's another one of our

688
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>really great games, you know, really good games that you

689
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>can enjoy. Even Tower Bourne is gonna go on Steam

690
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Early Access first. It's not even gonna go on the

691
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>game preview thing, which is weird, but I understand because

692
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Steam Early Access is like more tried and true. We

693
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 1>saw what happened with Power World where it took them.

694
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like it took three weeks for

695
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 1>them to make one paths for the game preview, whereas

696
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 1>they could do it instantly with Steam. So they feel

697
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's not ready for such a big audience. Like

698
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that was what the developers, So this is why Microsoft

699
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 1>is letting them do it after that Clockwork revolution. We

700
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of don't know enough about what that is, like

701
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe stated the K three, Maybe Gears of Gears, Uh

702
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that that game. Aside from that, I really

703
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Fable Gable could.

704
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well so so many of those still are like unknowns,

705
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, Perfect Dark for example, It's like, yeah, okay,

706
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>that trail looked kind of cool, but like when is

707
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 2>that thing coming out?

708
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that thing's probably that thing is farther away. I

709
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised they said, what Fable is twenty twenty five?

710
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh for sure, avowed twenty five.

711
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 2>That goes back to my point though. They're bad stewards

712
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>of even their existing franchise, So yeah.

713
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>They just that. And that's another thing too, is like

714
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you said, it's not just bad stewards, it's how many

715
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>years during the not only Xbox One, but even the

716
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 1>beginning of this generation did they just have nothing come

717
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>out like, so you're paying for game Pass to have

718
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>third party games and indie games. And again, that's cool

719
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 1>for somebody like me that we're playing games because we

720
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>have things to talk about on the podcast or reviewing

721
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>games or whatever. But the you know, casual gamer out

722
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 1>there looks the game faster goes. What am I supposed

723
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 1>to do with this? There's not really anything new for

724
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 1>me to play. I don't really care about these older games,

725
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>or I may have played them already or whatever, so

726
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing there for them to to really necessitate them

727
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>buying that. So, you know, Xbox, as you said, they

728
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 1>led themselves here, and then when they started buying publishers

729
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and especially buy one as big as Athvisial Lizard, Microsoft

730
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 1>starts paying attention. You got to start making and Microsoft says, hey, yo,

731
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is where Xbox kind of hurts

732
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 1>itself too. Phil keeps being the public face of everything,

733
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Bond as well, and then they end up talking

734
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 1>in circles, saying one thing and then going around and

735
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>saying something else, and then going to the next interview

736
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 1>and saying something else and now fill this like a

737
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>liar yep, so not helping yourself there. I don't think

738
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Xbox's strategy is wrong necessarily. I think they might be

739
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>right in a way. I think we are going to

740
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>start seeing Nintendo might start giving out their IP to

741
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>other people to make those games come out faster. Maybe

742
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>especially switch To is as big a assess as the

743
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Switch one was. Tony's albody putting stuff on PC. They

744
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 1>might do a little bit more with switch To, especially

745
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>again at switch to is the big money maker that

746
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody thinks. It's going to be a lot of rumors

747
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 1>going around right now. Tom Henderson said it that it

748
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>game's come a lot of people talking about possibly a

749
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Sony if not also Microsoft handheld happening. That's not the portal.

750
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's probably more akin to like a PSB or a PSBTA.

751
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about So do you think that

752
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that would help those two companies if say they came

753
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>out with their own version of the switch.

754
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Tony already has that stupid portal thing.

755
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, but that's not a switch. That is a you

756
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>can only go in your house, have to connect it

757
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to the PS five and hopefully it works for you.

758
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:41.159
<v Speaker 2>It would depend highly on if it could run Steam games.

759
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the number one thing. Yeah, and then how

760
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 2>much of a degradation would like running gotta will Ragnaroki

761
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.199
<v Speaker 2>in that thing? Or I mean how compressed can they

762
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 2>make it? You know? Yeah?

763
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And just to get to the last thing on this

764
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>is the other big kind of thing people have talked

765
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>about that would help Xbox, especially with their new box,

766
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 1>is what if they made it like a PC completely

767
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a PC. It's open to everything. You can play Steam

768
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>games on it. It's basically like you can use it

769
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>as a Steam Box or whatever. Do you think that

770
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 1>that would perhaps kind of like the Steam Deck. It

771
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>hasn't sold a gazillion cop you know, units, but it

772
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 1>sells decently enough. And then Steam and val keeps doing

773
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 1>what they do. Do you think that helps Xbox? I say,

774
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>they just open it up to let you play everything.

775
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Now because I'm allowed to play Xbox games.

776
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, But okay, if I can use my Steam library

777
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 1>and I can just use an Xbox and I don't

778
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 1>have to have like the big picture mode, I don't

779
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>have to go buy a Steam Deck. I just have

780
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.039
<v Speaker 1>my Xbox and I get to use it as the

781
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>thing that I put on my TV.

782
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>But then why you why would you pay for game

783
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>pass then either no, yeah, a regular person, not you specifically,

784
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 2>but like I mean, if it's a choice between like

785
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>an Xbox or you know, a home PC, the home

786
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>PC is more technically burdensome, or you know, most people

787
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>have people to figure it out. If it doesn't down

788
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 2>enough for people to understand Steam, but then once to

789
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:11.920
<v Speaker 2>get into the Steam they well, I would ever go

790
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>back to Xbox again.

791
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, you're right about that. Yeah, I mean I'm

792
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 1>seeing people play, uh because right now you can do

793
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the g force now thing on it where you bought

794
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the game on Steam. If people are playing Black Best

795
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Wukong on the Xbox through the g fource now thing, right, so,

796
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess they just want a portal to where you

797
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 1>can just directly play your Steam games to do there.

798
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Besides, if you're gonna, if're gonna talk about that, you

799
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 2>need to bring up the Infinium Labs Phantom console.

800
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But we'll, uh, we'll see how this progresses. I'm

801
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>sure we will get more stuff with Xbox before we

802
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>even get to Indiana Jones coming out, still a lot

803
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of months to come. Who knows that we do get

804
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that timeline at some point. But moving on from that

805
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Blackman for a second, Black with Lukong

806
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 1>is doing so in China that is selling out PS

807
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>fives and also had Ha sold till million copies, which

808
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>is a ridiculous amount, even more than I think the

809
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>record was a Scarlet and Violet for the switch with

810
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>how fast this thing sold in three days. Obviously when

811
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at the Steam numbers, most of that is

812
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 1>in China and then the rest of the world is

813
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like a much much smaller number. What like, do you

814
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>have any interest in this game? Number one? And the

815
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>number two? Like what do you make of this? Do

816
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you think this is a huge deal?

817
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, a, it's a Chinese game, so it's going

818
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 2>in China, not exactly a huge prize, right, And.

819
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It feels like it went over to like being not

820
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>just gamers, right, you got people that aren't necessary, like

821
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the casuals in China bought this thing. I think they

822
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 1>gave a lot of people the day off in China

823
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>as well to be able to kind of experience this.

824
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just they made it a big deal. They

825
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 1>made it a big deal.

826
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>They gotta support the party somehow, So yeah, I mean

827
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I have no I guess it looks okay, No, I

828
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't like turn it down if I got it, but

829
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going like a World red shut and buy it.

830
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I've already played Dragon Balls, I know how the story ends.

831
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Right for me, It's one of those I'll definitely like

832
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 1>look at it on a sale because it's not a

833
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>soul's game. It's a more of an action game. I

834
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>like those. It's not something I'm going to go run

835
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>out and pay sixty bucks for right now, right so,

836
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>especially because it runs like absolute crap on the PS

837
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 1>five Apparently.

838
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<v Speaker 2>In what we played, I got a good game for that.

839
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Also, like that's the thing too, right is again PC

840
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 1>is winning here because it's running it's almost like Cyberpunk.

841
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>It's running really well or decently enough on PC, and

842
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>then on pscy it's running badly, not even not even

843
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.159
<v Speaker 1>in like quality mode. It's running well. I think it

844
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>has like three modes and either any of them are

845
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>running that great. But even despite that, it's selling p

846
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 1>S fives well enough.

847
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah to buy PS five than to buy a console

848
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and the mean to buy a computer. Yeah, And again

849
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>it's it's technical hiccups of you know, like you don't

850
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>know a computer that well.

851
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, I do think this bodes well for other Chinese devs.

852
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Is it Phantom Blades coming out also this year? That

853
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>looks good. That's more of a souls like I think

854
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 1>than this game is. But hey, that's good. That's good

855
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>for the market. China is trying to, you know, be

856
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>a big player in this market. Aside from just being like, oh,

857
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 1>we own publishers and stuff with and and and dev

858
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>studios like Tencent, we want to be able to make

859
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 1>our own games and kind of do like what we

860
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>were seeing Korea do, South Korea do, and uh, kind

861
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of start making a name for themselves in it not

862
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>just be Japan kind of ruling all of Asia. So

863
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm down with that. I think that that's good for

864
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>a black and ukon. Look, understandably, there are some issues

865
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>with the game, and they did, you know, Randy and

866
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I talked about last week, the whole thing that they

867
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 1>sent out to influencers about don't talk about this, we'll

868
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about that kind of thing. And I think the

869
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>game is getting a bit over hyped. Seems to be

870
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's not the you know, next great amazing game.

871
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 1>It's also some people be like, oh if this wasn't

872
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 1>win Game of the Year, then everything's kind of rigged

873
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, then we're getting a little bit

874
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>too far here with that.

875
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it has an average Yeah exactly.

876
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 1>But speaking of a game that I think a lot

877
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of people had high hopes for and did not do

878
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that well, at least from early reviews. It has not

879
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>come out in early access yet. That's going to be tomorrow,

880
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to say these Star Wars Outlaws reviews

881
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>have made it to where I don't think I'm going

882
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to spend the eighteen bucks for you Soft plus.

883
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

884
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of very excited for this, and it

885
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, this seems like it's an okay game.

886
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not even a great game.

887
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the sevens, yeah, sevens and eights, I mean, well, and.

888
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm seeing a lot of people, just individual people

889
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 1>writing it even lower, so that's not good either. Yeah.

890
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know what were your I know

891
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 1>you said you weren't necessarily it's not it's your kind

892
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of game, but you weren't interested in buying it.

893
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not interested in the Star Wars part of it.

894
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 2>That's my problem.

895
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

896
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess it looks fine in this gameplay

897
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, but a Star Wars so.

898
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>At least they didn't set it. But like you know,

899
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>between three and four they said it, like between five

900
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 1>and six, I think doesn't make it that much better,

901
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I guess, right, Like I was still kind of distinct

902
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's a different type of gameplay. It's not not

903
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:49.679
<v Speaker 1>the Jedi stuff.

904
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's still I mean, yes, it's not this

905
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 2>typical Star Wars stuff. The problem is not it's just

906
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 2>typical pose of stuff. Yeah, that's you know, you're training

907
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 2>one one problem over another.

908
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I've I've watched kind of funny and I've watched a

909
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.519
<v Speaker 1>few others review the game, and I've heard a lot

910
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>of comparisons to Assassin's Creed one with the gameplay.

911
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's not good.

912
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not.

913
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not good.

914
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very heavy stealth. And then the stealth is not

915
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>good because the AI is not great and it's either

916
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you fail or you just walk right by and nobody

917
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 1>sees you. And then and the apparently the game the

918
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>actual like shooting is not great either.

919
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

920
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's like you're going for like the Star Wars

921
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>vibes and stuff like that, but the gameplay aspect of

922
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it is not good, and that doesn't make me want

923
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to show out seventy dollars, let alone twenty. And when

924
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a what we expect is probably going to

925
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>be a great game in Astrobot coming out in a

926
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, I think I'm just gonna go with that. Yeah,

927
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 1>So if I had, if I was reviewing it, and

928
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going out and spending money on it again,

929
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 1>like I think, like you said about Black with Lukong,

930
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna turn it down, but I'm not gonna

931
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 1>go out and and I think just they spend money

932
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and look for y'all folks that are big Star Wars fans,

933
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and you are gonna spend money on or you're gonna

934
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>do Gibisoft Plus basically like a thirty day trial with it,

935
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and I hope you have fun to help you enjoy it.

936
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>But I was expecting, like bigger fan care too. Yeah, yeah,

937
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting, you know, it's gonna be a better game.

938
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you're getting into the fall season

939
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 1>where there's gonna be a lot of games that we're

940
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna be interested in you're not gonna have as much time,

941
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and deciding what you're gonna spend your money on is important. Uh,

942
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not like these last three or four months where

943
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of had a lot of dead time and

944
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of games coming out, so you're

945
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, all right, college football s prolla me

946
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>be the biggest game coming out. Anyway, if I didn't

947
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.199
<v Speaker 1>review it, I would have bought it, you know, same

948
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>thing like Okay, Black with Wukong, there's really not a

949
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>lot and like this that's the thing is like Star

950
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Wars is coming out, like this is the perfect time

951
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 1>to come out because it's right before these big games

952
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>start coming out, and then it just it doesn't do

953
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:06.039
<v Speaker 1>well and it's not good. I think, I'm sure it'll

954
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>do fine because it's a Star Wars game, but I'm

955
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure you expecting a lot better scores and a

956
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 1>lot better praise for this game than it's been getting.

957
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at this point, so does this worry you?

958
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>For Assassin's Creed Shadows.

959
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>No particular that's going to get tep interviews.

960
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>You think, So it's Assassin's Creed.

961
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but those are a little dicey.

962
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Vala was like beloved for the most part.

963
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then I also played the last one.

964
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you didn't like Marage that much.

965
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 2>And they typically, I mean, it'd be nice. It was good,

966
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.559
<v Speaker 2>but that franchise is son even so.

967
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, uh, I mean, we knew about Star Wars,

968
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 1>but Valve has been kind of like trying to be

969
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>hush hushed about Deadlock, even to the extent of banning

970
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>people's accounts that talked about the game very openly. Uh,

971
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, including the Verge that they kind of made

972
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a mockery of the whole This wasn't an actual NDA.

973
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 1>You just kind of had to sign something that's you know,

974
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>before you started playing the game that said please don't

975
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. But Deadlock is officially a six to

976
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>six third person hero shooter. The game is another moment

977
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's a lot of tempt stuff in

978
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 1>the game right now. Of course you can go play

979
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>it if you get invited with the friends and family

980
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>close beta. Are you interested in this and what do

981
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you you know you think this will be good? I mean,

982
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and whilso, what's the point of it if they have

983
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Team Fortress too, Like, is there.

984
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 2>A Team forkss too isn't six on six and they

985
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 2>would relate to over overhaul Team Fortress too. As far

986
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 2>as a unit like you know, abilities and stuff like that.

987
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>It's probably it actually probably as easier for them to say, hey,

988
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm reckon something new. I thought it was extremely bad

989
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>timing that they, like the day I think they announced

990
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 2>this Concord came out or the day after or whatever. Yeah,

991
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and then see out you saw that as they overwatched

992
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>too versus Battle Born thing from years ago, and it's like, well,

993
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>one of these games did well and one of these

994
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 2>games bonded horribly, but now both those games bond horribly.

995
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I guess we'll let's see what happens. I

996
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't have an interest, but I'm really

997
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>done at the genre. So that's kind of why.

998
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't blame you on that. It is interesting

999
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that this is kind of coming out of a time

1000
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 1>where Okay, we have another hero game, Marble Rivals, that

1001
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>people kind of seem to be interested in, another game

1002
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 1>that's coming out in December, by the way, And but

1003
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that's also because it has the Marvel Right characters on it, right,

1004
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>how much we already saw like, Okay, Concord basically took

1005
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Gardens of the Galaxy, made characters, and then did overwatch

1006
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of it or whatever, and then now you have Deadlock,

1007
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>which we assume is going to have like no known

1008
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>other valve.

1009
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 2>It's not like that Poker Night game where they had like,

1010
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, the heavy and strong bead and shit like that.

1011
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Like this is a good Ton of Town thing. I mean,

1012
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 2>here's the telling thing is there are currently seventy three

1013
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand people playing that game right now, right, and it's

1014
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>not out, like you know, it's not you can just

1015
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 2>go install it yourself, you know.

1016
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:34.519
<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, but that's not good. That's not bad to

1017
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 1>be in like a sort of like closed beta kind

1018
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of thing for a while.

1019
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's amazing to be in that. Like it's like

1020
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, fucking Redfall or Concord or whatever, which is

1021
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 2>they have these numbers.

1022
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they couldn't even get enough people to

1023
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>play it on PS plus when it was on there. Yeah,

1024
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and then when Steam, if you pre ordered you got

1025
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like five codes to give out the friends, and they

1026
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>still couldn't get more than like what two thousand people

1027
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>at once?

1028
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1029
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? People just I don't necessarily think it's burnt out

1030
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>with the genre for everybody. I think it's just like

1031
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it's too many.

1032
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I think the problem is like not not

1033
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 2>a not enough of these people innovate.

1034
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a lot of the same and.

1035
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>People people are hoping are wasting that, you know that

1036
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a new game from Valve will do something different?

1037
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Does We'll see, But that's the hope anyway, because it's

1038
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 2>not like I'll watch two do anything different.

1039
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely not. But staying on this thing with Steam, uh,

1040
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 1>you know. Randy Pittsford obviously has had a mixed week

1041
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.119
<v Speaker 1>with the Borderlands movie bombing, and then of course he

1042
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.320
<v Speaker 1>got to at least save it a little bit with

1043
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the announcement of Borderlands four. But he also kind of

1044
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 1>took to social media to talk about his comments that

1045
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 1>he made many years ago when Borderlands three was coming

1046
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>out about you know, at that time, Tina Tiny Tina

1047
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and Borderlinds three were both excused to the Epic Game Store,

1048
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about how, oh, this is going

1049
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to be the next big store. Steam is going to

1050
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 1>die all of that stuff. It's this is gonna be

1051
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 1>this is a big, viable competitor, and then he kind

1052
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of like he kind of says that basically like Epic

1053
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>ship the bed on their opportunity to overtake Steam, and

1054
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.800
<v Speaker 1>now it's like, well, Steam is still existing, and so

1055
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, he believes in Steam. Now he's a Steam

1056
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>developer and a customer.

1057
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.760
<v Speaker 2>But I mean that's because it's not like, I mean,

1058
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Borderlines one and two came out on Steam. They did

1059
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 2>way better than Borderlines three. Dad.

1060
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess my my point in this is that you know,

1061
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 1>we all we all know ific game stores. The only

1062
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>reason people even talk about it is because there's free

1063
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>games on it all the time.

1064
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1065
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you have a good enough PC, I think

1066
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going out there, you're just pressing down, You're pressing

1067
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>add to library on them, and then you just shut

1068
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>off the store. I was doing that for a while,

1069
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but I just didn't even bother because.

1070
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 2>My point about this is Randy Pitchford need to shut

1071
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 2>the fuck up.

1072
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I guess my question was to even have

1073
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.960
<v Speaker 1>this on here is do you think that there's what

1074
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>would a store have to do to be a viable

1075
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>competitor to Steam? And did Epic what could have Epic

1076
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>have done differently if to try you know, harder or

1077
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>like where do they go wrong?

1078
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Epic's problem is like people still I think they have

1079
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Epic games on there or you know, it doesn't help

1080
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that it's named after the company. H And I don't

1081
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 2>think there is a like a vibe. Like the only

1082
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.360
<v Speaker 2>viable alternative to me really is a Good Old Games

1083
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>because they have a bunch of games on there that

1084
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you can't get anywhere else, and they try to modernize

1085
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 2>them if they can, like I think, oh there's some

1086
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.440
<v Speaker 2>real or alpha protocols just can't like re released on

1087
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Good Old Games and that was unstained by the way

1088
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean they delisted it, I think, but like the

1089
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Good Old Games version is like more modernized and can

1090
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.719
<v Speaker 2>like run like Windows eleven and has a better game pad,

1091
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 2>sport and stuff like that. Epic didn't have like the

1092
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 2>social features that even Steam had. It went like at

1093
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the time, and then I think Steam is still seen

1094
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>as like this huge rightly, so it is this huge

1095
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you know monolith because they offer good service and Epic doesn't.

1096
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's security issues that were happened with Epic as well.

1097
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember it's the beginning. I'm sure they they might have,

1098
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, do you think that anybody could come along

1099
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and maybe not you search Steam, but actually be a competitor,

1100
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it's actually feels like it's a story you want

1101
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:45.119
<v Speaker 1>to use.

1102
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Or i it's it's the thing of like I mean,

1103
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 2>there are a bunch of other like you know, good

1104
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Old Games or Itch EO or and then, but they

1105
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>all had their own special uh you know, special specialties

1106
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.199
<v Speaker 2>or you know, like it is way more better for

1107
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 2>indie games and stuff like that. There isn't a way

1108
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to compete. But that's not I mean people say it's

1109
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>a monopoly, but it's like, well, you can still get

1110
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:10.320
<v Speaker 2>games somewhere else.

1111
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, Steam doesn't, see it doesn't prevent you.

1112
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But you could even sell your Steam keys on other

1113
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 1>websites and buy them cheaper and then still play them

1114
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>on Steam. I mean right, so you knowngle you could

1115
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>buy them on there for a while.

1116
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.280
<v Speaker 2>So people always say monopoly is bad, but it's like,

1117
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 2>well bad for I mean bad for who? Because if

1118
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 2>the consumer's happy and the developers reasonably happy, who's it

1119
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>bad for?

1120
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there's like those the facto monopolies that

1121
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they're a monopoly because they are the best at what

1122
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>they do. And then there's the Google monopoly that they

1123
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:50.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, the court just basically said that Google paid

1124
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.119
<v Speaker 1>people to make sure they were number one, not necessarily

1125
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that they were the best or whatever. And then of

1126
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>course we know what Google is doing to SEO and

1127
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 1>basically screwing websites left and right now. So not to mention,

1128
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know that that also affects YouTube as well. You

1129
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>know how you're seen on YouTube. So I think, look,

1130
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I think people are gonna cry abot the monopoly thing

1131
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.039
<v Speaker 1>for forever. But Steam does sales. Steam does things. I mean,

1132
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 1>they're not the sales that they used to be, but

1133
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 1>I think that's more because of the developers can't really

1134
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>afford to put their games that low anymore because gaming

1135
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:31.719
<v Speaker 1>is in such a different way than it is now.

1136
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't I don't think. You know, Randy Fisher

1137
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.559
<v Speaker 1>had a point. I think back then that Steam did

1138
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>need a competitor, but Epic kind of screwed that themselves

1139
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:46.039
<v Speaker 1>by not only that, but the studios they purchased. They're

1140
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 1>purchasing like big multiplayer games that need to be everywhere,

1141
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.639
<v Speaker 1>like Rocket League and Fall Guys and things like that,

1142
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't want to go make you try to

1143
00:59:57.639 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>go make those exclusive on that epig game store, but

1144
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 1>there's still every where else, so you're not you're not

1145
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:05.599
<v Speaker 1>getting you're not driving people to the store. You're driving people.

1146
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 1>There's no reason to really have a big games for

1147
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 1>other than the free games. And then sometimes they'll do exclusives,

1148
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.679
<v Speaker 1>like you know when they put Keendom Hearts on there

1149
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>or allen Wick two or whatever, and then it's like

1150
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 1>what happened. Ketam Mar's collection just releases on Steam not

1151
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:24.360
<v Speaker 1>too long ago, and it was it felt like a

1152
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:27.800
<v Speaker 1>huge deal, whereas the epic games when it was like

1153
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a wet fart.

1154
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. I like to ask Grandy or

1155
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 2>an actual legitimate developer who's an epic exclusive. It's like, okay,

1156
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.800
<v Speaker 2>game was an epic for a year, what were the

1157
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 2>sales like either first day or even like for the

1158
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 2>first year versus your first dance team.

1159
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Like at least they you know, at least they're going

1160
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 1>to you get the whole Oh I only got to

1161
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.719
<v Speaker 1>take twelve percent thing, But I mean, how much are

1162
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 1>you really getting because you don't have any not even

1163
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 1>close to the number of people that are buying.

1164
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Out against even like you know game pass. So yeah,

1165
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:08.880
<v Speaker 2>and then.

1166
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>You're right about that, because there's a lot of PC

1167
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.199
<v Speaker 1>players are just they're different, they're just bred differently that way.

1168
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you guys are just good about I

1169
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.719
<v Speaker 1>want to go buy my game, have my game on Steam.

1170
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I own it now, it's in the library. I don't,

1171
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Steam people don't even want to go on

1172
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 1>another another store that you're not paying any more or

1173
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 1>less for it. You just want it to be on

1174
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.679
<v Speaker 1>on Steam. Uh. And I think that's what makes some

1175
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of those other stores work is you can also just

1176
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 1>put your game into the Steam library from there, whereas

1177
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Epic you know, for the longest time because they were competing,

1178
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.159
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to do that. So I think now

1179
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 1>you can though. Right now you can put your you go,

1180
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you can get it from your from your computer and

1181
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:52.599
<v Speaker 1>at least it'll still load the the Epic games thing,

1182
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.079
<v Speaker 1>but you can you can have it in the Steam library.

1183
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Right maybe I don't know, as you know, so.

1184
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Hyper Life Breaker has been delayed again to at sometime

1185
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, which isn't great. Sucks to hear

1186
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that this game gets getting delayed again. It feels like

1187
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it's constantly been delayed, but you know, I'd rather it

1188
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 1>come out in early access and be good and not

1189
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>come out early access and you're having to spend time

1190
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>fixing it. So I don't know, were you interested in

1191
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this because I know they made a different than the

1192
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 1>hyper Light Drifter.

1193
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't play the first one, so yeah, I.

1194
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Like Typerlight Drifter a lot, so I was kind of

1195
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 1>always interested in this.

1196
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I guess.

1197
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.320
<v Speaker 1>What is that the way?

1198
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1199
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Been? And then also announced is the Atari seventy eight hundred,

1200
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 1>which you could play twenty six hundred and seventy one

1201
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.199
<v Speaker 1>hundred carts. There are new games being made for this thing.

1202
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.280
<v Speaker 1>There's one game that's included called Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest.

1203
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 1>It does have HDMI for modern TVs and it has

1204
01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a wireless game pad. I don't know why you wouldn't

1205
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 1>just put Blue two Is in it, But okay, I

1206
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>know you you like your retro stuff. Have you seen that? Yeah?

1207
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>But I got the line in Atari. I never I

1208
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 2>had one once, but I couldn't eve figure out how

1209
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>to TV. So I've never actually like played a Natari

1210
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>game or Atari system.

1211
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know they have that you have that VCS thing.

1212
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't play, you know, I think you know,

1213
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I dropped, Like like with old movies, past a certain point,

1214
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I'd pretty much check out unless it's like, you know,

1215
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like a really big classic or something right right, aside

1216
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 2>from like Pitfall and Barnstorm, And I can't think of

1217
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.960
<v Speaker 2>too many as Atari twenty six hundred games or No

1218
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight hundred games.

1219
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, Satari was way past my generation as well.

1220
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I only played it one time because my dad had

1221
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 1>one that he never used and my grandparents still had it.

1222
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I hooked it up one time and played a few

1223
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>games on it. I was like, Okay, this is way

1224
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:59.440
<v Speaker 1>beyond yep. So I don't have any nosalgia for this thing.

1225
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess it's cool for the people who do.

1226
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's the thing this is, I don't think

1227
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.599
<v Speaker 1>this is going to sell amazing. Well, this is like

1228
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about old school collectors. I don't even know

1229
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that Randy would go after this thing. And he likes

1230
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:18.760
<v Speaker 1>having everything. You know, you're you're also collected too. You're

1231
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.039
<v Speaker 1>saying that you wouldn't go by this either.

1232
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I mean I think for collectors they have

1233
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.079
<v Speaker 2>to add some nostalgia for the system, right, I guess

1234
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:28.719
<v Speaker 2>are the collectors would just buy everything.

1235
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 1>But and then also it's like, what are you going

1236
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to charge for this thing? Plus it's like one hundred Okay,

1237
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess.

1238
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.199
<v Speaker 2>That's fair, but yeah, I can charge like four.

1239
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean you definitely can't, especially when, okay, you're

1240
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:46.119
<v Speaker 1>only including one game. It's not even like you're including

1241
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:48.719
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of games. All this other stuff is

1242
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.039
<v Speaker 1>going to be separate for you to buy, Like, yeah,

1243
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, I think that's pretty much

1244
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it for the episode here, unless you have anything else

1245
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to Oh, I'm sorry, the games you're playing

1246
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, yep.

1247
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I started playing out Shadow Ring or Shadow the Tree

1248
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.840
<v Speaker 2>with the end Alden Ring. But the big one is

1249
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I got Rogue. I got Robocoperroakee City on PS five. Okay,

1250
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I got his account because and it was funny because

1251
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 2>when I was downloading it, he only had put like

1252
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes into it before I said, oh fuck this, yeah,

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01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, so and he didn't like count played at all.

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01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I liked the game in theory, but if I was

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01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:31.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna give it a score, I would like score it

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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.760
<v Speaker 2>two different ways i'd score, Like as a game, he'd

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01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.840
<v Speaker 2>probably be like seven or eight. On PS five, I'd

1258
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:37.880
<v Speaker 2>scored like a four or five.

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01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Why is it that bad on a one?

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01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It has a lot of technical problems. The big

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01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.320
<v Speaker 2>three I noticed were and this is a common thing,

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01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:50.320
<v Speaker 2>by the way, during cinematics, every time the camera shifts

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01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:54.920
<v Speaker 2>or the camera cut the actor or you know, the

1264
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the NPC or whatever, character checkerboards for like a split second. Amazing,

1265
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.840
<v Speaker 2>every single every single time. And the scheme has been

1266
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:05.719
<v Speaker 2>out nine months and didn't fix it. Because I was

1267
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.239
<v Speaker 2>looking up. I was like, am I going crazy? And

1268
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I googled it and I'm like, no, everyone you know

1269
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.840
<v Speaker 2>this reddit third is from nine months ago. And they

1270
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.320
<v Speaker 2>even brought it at PENS and he was like, wow,

1271
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>they still didn't fix that, like because he noticed it too.

1272
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I remember this was like it was a

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01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:22.400
<v Speaker 1>really like well liked game when.

1274
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:25.719
<v Speaker 2>It came, not a PS five. The other two problems

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01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:30.039
<v Speaker 2>actually three problems. Uh. One time it crashed my PS

1276
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.199
<v Speaker 2>five hard, and I mean like an air I never

1277
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.639
<v Speaker 2>saw before because normally, like when a game crashes, it's like,

1278
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 2>oh this the game software has reached an air or

1279
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, an unexpected air this thing. I got to

1280
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.320
<v Speaker 2>a point and I wanted to minimize the game for

1281
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.159
<v Speaker 2>a seconds, so I hit the PS button and nothing happened,

1282
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was like that's new. And I even hit

1283
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the microphone button and that didn't like light up or anything,

1284
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, okay, I closed a game. I

1285
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.559
<v Speaker 2>went to the main menu of the game, and then

1286
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.159
<v Speaker 2>it closed itself and then it was like your system

1287
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:05.320
<v Speaker 2>software has encountered an error. Wow, okay. It was like

1288
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you need to reset, and I'm all right fine. Uh.

1289
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.239
<v Speaker 2>During one cinematic one recent one, it was I'm watching

1290
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like a newscast on the screen with this news reporter.

1291
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It played halfway through and then I'm supposed to cut

1292
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 2>to like this mayor candidate talking, but instead of cutting,

1293
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.119
<v Speaker 2>it just played as audio and the cut scene like

1294
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.039
<v Speaker 2>basically like restarted itself or like you know, looked backer

1295
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.760
<v Speaker 2>on and this new reporter talking again, and I was

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01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like yep, quality. And the last one was big. The

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01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 2>big one. Actually, one of the big ones is the

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01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 2>third level you're in. It's like really big like steel

1299
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:47.199
<v Speaker 2>like Corey or steel factory or something like that, but

1300
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like a really big environment. It's not like a

1301
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 2>corridor or anything like. It's like pretty out outdoors, And

1302
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.719
<v Speaker 2>after ten minutes of plane the frame rate dropped to

1303
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.000
<v Speaker 2>about twelve frames per second. Wow, which makes the mandatory

1304
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 2>sniping sequences in the game a whole lot of fun.

1305
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm god.

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01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>But the second you back out, are you going to

1307
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like a building or something, because it loads into like

1308
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 2>another indoor building or environment sixty frames a second. Then

1309
01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 2>it was just per right back up. I'd go outside

1310
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and it would be fine for a little bit, but

1311
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:19.840
<v Speaker 2>then drop down again.

1312
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

1313
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's only the PS five version because the

1314
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Xbox version seem's okay, or that's what I've read, and

1315
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's been nine months and they're obviously not

1316
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 2>going to fix it, so that's cool. Yeah. I like it.

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01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, and reminds me of it reminds me of

1318
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the first uh Dark City, the.

1319
01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Darkness okay, the darkness all right, Yeah.

1320
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Which is cool. And I like Proba cop so that helps.

1321
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I guess it is a PS five longcause I

1322
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.880
<v Speaker 1>remember a lot of people on PC Xbox likeening a lot. Yeah,

1323
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have that many problems. I guess psive just

1324
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.560
<v Speaker 1>some reason got the that's a mess borked version there. Yep,

1325
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really been. This is the first week that

1326
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the other three weeks I've been playing at least something,

1327
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:10.399
<v Speaker 1>this one I really haven't, so I'm gonna get back

1328
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 1>on that. But since we have a little bit of

1329
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 1>time before Astrobot comes and consumes my life until then, right,

1330
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:23.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, next week I'll definitely at least have one

1331
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:28.840
<v Speaker 1>game to talk about here, yep. And yeah, speaking of

1332
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 1>games that are still coming though, of course, if you

1333
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 1>want to spend them going, sorry.

1334
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about Deadpool, didn't you?

1335
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we can do it quickly here. What do

1336
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>you think of the movie?

1337
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:44.840
<v Speaker 2>It is good. I thought it's better than the second

1338
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 2>one personally, but it requires a lot of insider knowledge

1339
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.960
<v Speaker 2>or like a lot of backup knowledge that if you

1340
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 2>don't have, is kind of screwed.

1341
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know why you would watch this

1342
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 1>movie if you didn't at least have a cursory knowledge of.

1343
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.119
<v Speaker 2>These it's the biggest movie, or you know, like, I'm

1344
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:02.760
<v Speaker 2>sure there are a fair amount of people who saw

1345
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.680
<v Speaker 2>it that like my mom, who somehow like Deadpool for

1346
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 2>like some ungobly known reason.

1347
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, But I think if you watch the three Deadpool movies,

1348
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I think you get most of it.

1349
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:16.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't not at all, like because you're missing like

1350
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Logan or you know, all the you know, right, but

1351
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:22.279
<v Speaker 2>anciary characters that show up.

1352
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're not getting the cameos and things like that.

1353
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean like you're getting most of the stuff.

1354
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 1>And then but yes they are putting in like the

1355
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 1>you know stuff with the TVA and other things. You know,

1356
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.800
<v Speaker 1>there is uh that kind of stuff. There's shouts to

1357
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the old you know, even older MCU films. You know.

1358
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.399
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of like a sort of like them saying, oh,

1359
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:49.359
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff is part of the MCU. Now it's

1360
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:53.399
<v Speaker 1>not just the stuff that we name is the MCU,

1361
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 1>which is cool. Good that they're like canonizing all that

1362
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff now that they own it. Obviously it helps. They

1363
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 1>probably into them that if they didn't own Fox. Let's

1364
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:06.880
<v Speaker 1>be honest. I enjoyed it. It maybe laugh a lot.

1365
01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:09.560
<v Speaker 1>It has some good action. That's what you want out

1366
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of a Deadpool movie. Hugh Jaffam to me, you know,

1367
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 1>great as Wolverine. Loved the joke about We're gonna make

1368
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you do this to your ninety thing, which I'm sure

1369
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.399
<v Speaker 1>he's probably like signed up for quite a few more movies.

1370
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I doubt it. I think this kind of was it

1371
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:26.960
<v Speaker 2>for him, you know, I don't know.

1372
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll he'll make an appearance in one of

1373
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.039
<v Speaker 1>the other MCUs and then I think they'll pass it off.

1374
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that'll kind of be the point of one

1375
01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 1>of these Avengers movies is they'll they'll pass it off

1376
01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to a younger generation before we get to like that

1377
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 1>last Avengers six or whatever, because I mean they have

1378
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to if they want to keep it going. Like these

1379
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:48.560
<v Speaker 1>people cannot possibly keep going.

1380
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, like yeah, more Wolverine movies in his future.

1381
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you and Robert Downey Junior, like he

1382
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:00.199
<v Speaker 1>cannot keep just being in these movies. Like a some

1383
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:02.960
<v Speaker 1>point they're gonna have to like let a new generation.

1384
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're trying to do that already with all

1385
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.560
<v Speaker 1>these other ones. But I mean, now you're gonna have

1386
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris Evans show up again, whether it's whichever form he's

1387
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna take, You're gonna have all these other people come in.

1388
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that we're in the other movies that now

1389
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they've kind of tried to move past of so I

1390
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.239
<v Speaker 1>mean even Tom Holland is starting to get to the

1391
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 1>point where he's like, Okay, I'm not gonna do Spider

1392
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Man for the rest of my life either, So you know,

1393
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 1>they got to figure out something. But I think as

1394
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 1>a as a kind of like a this is it

1395
01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing to the Fox movies and like the

1396
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 1>original Deadpool stuff, I thought that was that was great,

1397
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Like that was fun. It deserves the big money that

1398
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it got or whatever, you know. So yeah, I'm happy

1399
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:53.079
<v Speaker 1>that it didn't, you know, because everybody was worried about it.

1400
01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:56.520
<v Speaker 1>If this movie doesn't do well, where's the MCU gonna

1401
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be at now? And thankfully it it did do well.

1402
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 1>It seems like that they can kind of be okay

1403
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:03.920
<v Speaker 1>with what's going forward.

1404
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see next next week when it hits digital,

1405
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.880
<v Speaker 2>we can talk about the border Lines movie.

1406
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. It's just ridiculous that I think it's already

1407
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:18.439
<v Speaker 1>hitting digital. Absolutely insane. No, it's it is just from

1408
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the fact of like, wow, it was that bad. Oh yeah,

1409
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it was that bad that it didn't even last more

1410
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:27.000
<v Speaker 1>than like a week until it just bombed and when

1411
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 1>only made like fifty million world wide or something.

1412
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous, crazy, mad you know.

1413
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, start really quick because I gotta start working again.

1414
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:37.760
<v Speaker 4>Here.

1415
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.880
<v Speaker 1>For the stuff that's coming out this week, already mentioned it.

1416
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 1>If you want to go get Star Wars Outlaws early,

1417
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:48.439
<v Speaker 1>you can, or you can just wait till the thirtieth

1418
01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 1>when it comes out. For everybody, I would recommend don't

1419
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:56.239
<v Speaker 1>spend that extra thirty dollars. It's just your wasting money. Well,

1420
01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the Warcraft also comes out, the new expansion I'm hoping

1421
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to get a cub that's coming out. Corekeeper also coming

1422
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>out that looks pretty interesting in the game there as well.

1423
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Risk of Brain two is coming to console.

1424
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And they also on there is already on console, honestly.

1425
01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, it shows that there's coming out to PS five.

1426
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:25.960
<v Speaker 2>And modern console. Okay, yeah, and then then.

1427
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 1>The DLC will come out after with that as well.

1428
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>The EMMO Smiling Man Famicom story thing for Switch also

1429
01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:40.479
<v Speaker 1>comes out. Gundam Breaker four also comes out as well

1430
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.039
<v Speaker 1>on the twenty ninth. That looks cool. If you like

1431
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Gundam's definitely go check that out. A Vampire Survivors comes

1432
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to PS four and PS five. You haven't played that yet,

1433
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:53.199
<v Speaker 1>definitely go do this. Terrific game and business of Mana

1434
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 1>also comes out this week, a game that I feel

1435
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.479
<v Speaker 1>like we people have not talked about enough. It's like

1436
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>really going under the radar here. I wonder how well

1437
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:05.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna do sales wise, right on that front. Honestly,

1438
01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope it does well, because you know, I don't

1439
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like seeing those games just kind of like come out

1440
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and do nothing. But we'll see, uh yeah, and then

1441
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.239
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be hitting September. It's gonna be some big

1442
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 1>games coming out for them, but uh, that'll be for

1443
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:26.399
<v Speaker 1>next week. Until then, everybody, see you later later,
