WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.559 Welcome to the God's I View podcast. I am your host, Trevor. 2 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.879 I wanted to get another episode in the books asap 3 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:29.160 so that the most recent episode isn't my random theological screed, 4 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:34.640 which was the last episode. You know, it's just been fun. 5 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.399 I've been arguing with my friend. What's better. I think 6 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:40.920 for me, a peak male friendship is somebody I can 7 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:46.240 just argue with about science or theology. I argue with 8 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:50.320 my boss at work about science, and I argue with 9 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.520 my seventh day I'd be his friend about religion. It's 10 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.960 kind of nice, you know. I feel like Plato or 11 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:00.359 Socrates just out there arguing. Maybe with that all the 12 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:07.959 young young male. Was it Socrates up to some shenanigans? 13 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.599 I don't know, but yeah, just just just as nice 14 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:17.159 to just intellectually joust. That's one of the things I'm 15 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:22.159 into for some reason. Anyway, those arguments have been going strong, 16 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.640 kind of flushing out what I think about stuff. It's interesting. 17 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:31.400 I've been in communications with an Orthodox church by me, 18 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:38.040 probably the most well known Orthodox priest in the internet 19 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.799 space happens to have a church nearby. They've been super nice. 20 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.640 You know what it is though, It's just something about 21 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:50.079 I'm attracted to the seriousness of it, but it is 22 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.000 kind of shocking for somebody like me, been an atheist 23 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:57.159 nearly my whole life, never really been to church. I 24 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.120 mean a few times here or there, you know, somebody's 25 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:05.040 funeral and that's not really a service, or with a 26 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.840 friend whose parents said we had to go a couple 27 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:11.759 times as a kid. And then I have a few 28 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.400 family members who are more on the evangelical side, so 29 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.560 I've been a few times with them, and that's kind 30 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:19.280 of just like going to like a concert. You know, 31 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.759 it's not very serious. He can address the same but 32 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.400 there's like protocol at an Orthodox church. There's like stuff 33 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.560 you got to know, and it's very serious, and it 34 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.879 makes me a little uncomfortable. So I don't know if 35 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.639 I'll really work up the courage to go. I want 36 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.319 to see it, you know, it looks beautiful in the 37 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:44.560 pictures and it's again very serious, which I like, but 38 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.759 I'm also afraid of does that make sense anyway? In 39 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:50.919 kind of new format for the show, I think I 40 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:55.759 might play two clips, one more scientific, one more theological, 41 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:04.400 and kind of historical historically interesting in my opinion. But 42 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:09.000 first personal anecdote I'm onto some good stuff at work 43 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:15.639 right now, kind of exploring some really cool hypotheses. I 44 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.960 won't get too into it because it's boring and it's 45 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.280 not the topics we talk about, but just exploring some 46 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:27.680 interesting side effects of certain types of blood pressure medications, 47 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:33.000 because here's my thought process, right. You can learn a 48 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:40.960 lot about a disease that's somewhat unrelated to the intended 49 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.240 treatment effect of different medications just by virtue of what 50 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.919 those medications do and how they work. You know, for example, 51 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:55.240 there seems to be like certain blood pressure medications on 52 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:00.879 the surface don't seem related at all, that keep amyloid 53 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:09.159 and tao, the Alzheimer's disease biomarkers. They keep amyloid soluble, 54 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.479 which is what you want, and they keep tao insoluble, 55 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.960 which is what you want. You want tao in your 56 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.079 neurons healthy and normal, and you want amyloid in your 57 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:24.600 CSF healthy and normal. Should those twain? Should those two meet, 58 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:28.360 you know, or whatever the expression is, that's not good. 59 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.480 And there are certain blow pressure medications that prevent that 60 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.839 from happening, but they're in different drug classes. You know. 61 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.199 It's like a drug in this class a drug in 62 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.199 that class, a drug in this class. So my thought 63 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.720 process was, why not figure out what those drugs have 64 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:49.319 in common? And there is this biological pathway that they 65 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.759 all have in common. So to me, it's like, well, 66 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.560 clearly that's an interesting biological pathway, you know, and no 67 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.839 one's really studied it. And sure enough, I'm looking at 68 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:02.839 like millions of health records. I'm looking at these big 69 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:07.680 observational data sets where like five thousand people have had 70 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:13.439 lumbar punctures and had cerebral spinal fluid pulled out, and 71 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.480 I can go look at their meds, and sure enough, 72 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:20.399 the ones taking these certain meds do better. And so 73 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.399 it's like, well, if we figure out what that mechanism is, 74 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.920 because clearly it's not like a well established thing that 75 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:31.360 they do, you know, because the drugs all do different things, 76 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:37.399 so they have some shared side effect that's beneficial. And 77 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.160 so there's two implications there. One is, you know, all 78 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.560 other things being equal, if the side effects of two 79 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.839 drugs are the same, and it's an older person, especially 80 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:50.920 if someone's genetically predisposed to Alzheimer's, give them the drug 81 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:56.040 that will prevent Alzheimer's, you know, assuming they have hypertension, 82 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:03.279 which most people do so, especially in that agridge. So 83 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:06.079 so that that's pretty exciting. But then the more exciting 84 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:10.240 thing is, well, if we figure out that specific pathway, 85 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.639 you know, potentially you could come up with a better 86 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.399 you know whatever drug or biomarker, you know something. It's 87 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:23.680 something new for the billions and billions of dollars we've 88 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:27.480 invested into Alzheimer's and come up with zilch. It's very 89 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:31.839 exciting to have a new idea. And of course my 90 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.920 grants are all linguishing. They all got good scores, but 91 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:41.040 they're just sitting unpaid. It's an issue anyway. Moving on though, 92 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:47.120 we're going to uh, we're gonna get into some stuff, 93 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:53.240 starting with our friend Trent Horn. Now I've got some 94 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.959 I like Trent. It's one of these things, you know, 95 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.360 you become an Internet personality all of a sudden, everyone 96 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.040 needs to have an opinion about you, right, and apparently 97 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.240 I need to have an opinion about this guy. So 98 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:10.319 I think he's very smart. I think he does a 99 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:15.199 really good job articulating his positions. I do think he's 100 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.480 kind of inconsistent, and I think one of the ways 101 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.720 he's very good is that he can really kind of 102 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:26.000 steamroll you. And he's a quick thinker, but he is fair. 103 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:27.759 I'm not He's not a bully. I'm just saying he 104 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:29.959 can kind of like ba up, bat up, bat up, 105 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:34.480 but up. And as far as theology goes, I mean, 106 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:36.480 it seems pretty cool. I'm not a Catholic, you know, 107 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.720 but everything seems pretty cool that he says makes sense. 108 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:47.079 But he wades into politics, and I'm okay with that. 109 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.199 I'm okay with waiting into politics. But once you wade 110 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.680 into politics, it's like, I don't know, like you can't 111 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.519 the things you decide to talk about and not talk about. 112 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:04.439 It's like of telling, you know. And he ownes in 113 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.720 on really specific issues. And there's a lot of political 114 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:12.480 issues that are that have religious significance, one of them 115 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:15.639 being war. You know, he doesn't really talk about that 116 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.399 as far as I know. One of them being you know, 117 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:28.519 corruption and abuse and secret sexual abuse and all this stuff, right, 118 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.680 he doesn't really talk about He he kind of talks 119 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:37.120 about one thing, which is the trans stuff. And that's okay. 120 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.360 I think I kind of agree with him, you know, 121 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.240 I just I don't the selectivity is kind of odd 122 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:48.279 to me. I don't know, a lot of people don't 123 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.559 like him because he's not political enough, so you can't 124 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:55.639 make everybody happy. And you know, I don't really like 125 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.320 talking about politics at all for that reason. But I am. 126 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.200 I am actually going to wait and this water ever 127 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.720 so slightly. And this is more just a personal story 128 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:09.919 than a political opinion. But it will probably turn into 129 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:12.840 a political opinion at some point in the next five minutes. 130 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:19.159 But the culture war trans stuff, you know, doesn't really 131 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:22.120 affect me, you know, like I don't encounter it much. 132 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.399 You know, I work with people who have the pronouns 133 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.240 in the email or whatever. It's fine. I think it's 134 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:31.879 kind of weird, you know, but you know, trying to 135 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.240 be whatever, get along and and no one's making me 136 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:38.879 do it, so that's fine, you know what I mean. 137 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.200 That's really my politics. You know. I won't make you 138 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:44.639 do anything. You don't make me do anything. Once people 139 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.320 start making me do stuff, it's like, all right, now 140 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:51.679 I have an opinion. Now I'm upset, but you leave 141 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:57.360 me alone. I'll leave you alone. All good. But I 142 00:09:57.559 --> 00:09:59.679 had a business. My wife had a business. She had 143 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.240 a big warehouse, you know, like five thousand square feet, 144 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:06.200 and then I was running a little business as well. 145 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.879 We were roasting coffee and I was also working full time, 146 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.600 and like healthcare, I think I've talked on the past 147 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.200 episode all the businesses I've started, I forgot to mention 148 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.879 that one. You know, that's how many there are. Anyway, 149 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:26.399 So it was roasting coffee, making bottled beverages, and I 150 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.679 needed help. So we decided to hire somebody, and so 151 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.879 we did like the I don't know indeed or whatever, 152 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:40.120 and someone applied and she did not really interview well, 153 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.120 but she seemed nice. You know, I'm a subt dude. 154 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:47.399 If you're nice, I'm a sucker. She seemed kind of sad. 155 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:51.440 You know, she's pretty overweight, you know, just mind so 156 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.159 am I you know, I'm getting better, I'm getting there. 157 00:10:54.159 --> 00:11:00.080 I'm getting back on track. But uh, anyway, man, if 158 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.000 you could have seen me when I was twenty good lord, 159 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:12.039 good lord. Anyway, anyway, that times change, times are changing. Anyway. 160 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.360 So she's you know, kind of over which seems depressed. 161 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.919 But she seems nice, you know, like she seems kind hearted, 162 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:25.559 you know, kind of has a shorter haircut, but definitely 163 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.519 a woman. You know, this is like a youngish woman, 164 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.480 twenty two maybe something like that, we hire her. She's 165 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.559 working in the warehouse alone, and I come by every 166 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.000 once in a while, like in between zoom calls and 167 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.759 stuff to do my own thing, like make a delivery 168 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.840 or whatever. And so I come in and I noticed 169 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:51.200 that she's falling her eyes out, she's crying. I'm leaving 170 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.519 out one detail, which is the day prior I was 171 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.360 training her on how to roast coffee. And I said 172 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.039 to my friend, who was helping her because he's also 173 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.559 a coffee roaster, Hey, why don't you show her how 174 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.159 to do this? And she goes, oh, excuse me. I 175 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.440 go by they them, and I was like, oh, I 176 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.440 never had that experience in real life, you know, I've 177 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.200 only ever heard about this. I was excited. I felt 178 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.039 like an experience, you know. So I was like, of course, 179 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:25.480 I'm sorry, you know, why don't you show them or whatever? 180 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.519 Which is fine because like sometimes I even talk that 181 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.879 way anyway, you know, like I think I feel like 182 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:36.440 I've even been corrected as a kid, like anyway, I 183 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:40.360 mean there's situations where the it doesn't make sense like dramatically, 184 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:47.000 you know, but okay, whatever, So I say, sure, no problem. 185 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.200 I was kind of caught off guard. I just want 186 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.480 everybody to be happy. I'm that guy. You know. If 187 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:56.960 you hate me for that, I'm sorry anyway. But as 188 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.200 soon as someone tells me to put the them in 189 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:03.159 my email or him, he man like, dude, that actually 190 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.159 kind of upsets me. So I have a lot. It's 191 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:10.840 more about autonomy. That's really my issue anyway. So I say, sure, 192 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.399 no problems. So the next day she's they she I'm 193 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.480 gonna say, she I all forgot, I'm gonna mess it up. 194 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.320 She is crying her eyes out, and I'm like, hey, 195 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:28.360 is everything going okay? She goes, yeah, I just I'm 196 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:32.919 having a really hard time with my boyfriend. He's thinking 197 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:37.039 of breaking up with me because his dad is just 198 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:44.919 devastated that he came out as homosexual. And now I'm 199 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:50.559 really confused because here is a woman, an adult woman, 200 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:58.159 who boyfriend is thinking about breaking up with her because 201 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:00.679 he came out as gay. So kind of my assumption 202 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:05.600 is that he's realized he's gay and wants to break 203 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.240 up with this woman to date a man, you know, 204 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.679 but I don't know. These are treacherous waters. I'm like, okay, oh, 205 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:16.960 I'm so sorry. She goes, yeah, he's never met me. 206 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:23.840 Oh my god, this is real. You can't make this. 207 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.480 I'm devastated that no one was there with me. I 208 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.440 tell this story. No one else thinks that's as funny 209 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.440 as I do. To me, it's like Seinfeld level, like 210 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.320 just peak absurdity. She goes, yeah, he's never met me, 211 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.200 but you know, his son told him that he's in 212 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:47.600 a gay relationship. And I'm like, now, I don't understand. Anyway, 213 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.320 I'm gonna cut to the chase because I didn't really 214 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.200 confront her on the issue. I just said I'm so sorry. 215 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:53.440 But here's what I was able to reverse engineer after 216 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:58.320 the fact. Right, Okay, So here is a father, you know, 217 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:04.240 normal father. His son comes to him and goes, Dad, 218 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:10.879 I'm a gay man. I'm in a gay relationship and 219 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.320 I'm gay. And the dad's like what what? He didn't 220 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.279 handle it? Well, I can't believe it, like I've you've 221 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:24.759 always been into you know, women. I don't understand. Here's 222 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:30.320 the thing. He's gay because he's in a relationship with 223 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:34.360 a non binary person. Do you understand. So here, when 224 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:38.240 he says he's gay, what he means is he's having Uh, 225 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.919 if there's kids in the car, you know, cover the years, 226 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.080 this is gonna get biologically anatomical. But he's he's having 227 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:54.240 vaginal sex with a woman, right of vaginal sex in 228 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.440 the vagina, and a woman that came that way from 229 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:01.519 the factory, right, Like, this is a born a woman 230 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.000 anatomically is still that same, you know, you know, born 231 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:09.639 a girl, still a woman, an adult woman. You know, 232 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.120 am I'm making sense? Am I making sense? It's the 233 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:18.679 most typical sexual relationship you can possibly imagine, right, it's 234 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:24.000 an adult male and an adult woman engaging in consensual 235 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:30.679 activities with one another. But because the adult woman identifies 236 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.159 as that they them, the son confessed his homosexuality to 237 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:39.600 his father. Upset. I'm like, you got to give me 238 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.360 this guy's DAS number so I can just explain. Like, listen, 239 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:48.679 here's what's going on. Your son is very confused. He's 240 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.720 really looking to like have an issue, you know, because 241 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:57.000 here's what's really going on, your son, an adult man 242 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.840 is having consensual sex with an adult woman. This is 243 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:05.519 what's actually happening right now, you know, Oh my god. Anyway, 244 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.039 here's the only reason why am I telling this story. 245 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.799 I have no idea why I'm telling this story anyway, 246 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:15.559 But it does have an interesting ending. Our business closed 247 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.440 down as it inevitably would, and I treated this individual 248 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.240 with the utmost respect and dignity, Thank you very much. 249 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:28.519 I actually kind of felt I don't know, I felt 250 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.279 I was confused. I was confused by the situation because 251 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.359 I think you could argue I'm not arguing this, so 252 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.039 don't send me any emails. This is not me talking. 253 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.079 This is a hypothetical person making this argument. You could 254 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:49.680 argue that it isn't necessarily correct or good or even 255 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:54.960 in the person's interest to a firm certain psychological issues. 256 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:59.880 Now I'm not saying that gender identity is a psychological issue, 257 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:03.319 but let's use some other examples that are clearly psychological issues, 258 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:13.400 like anorexia, okay, or multiple personality disorder. Right, if someone 259 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.839 comes to you that you you learn they have multiple 260 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:24.000 personality disorders? What what is the right thing to do? Morally, medically? Everything? 261 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:28.119 It is? Okay, Hey, listen, this happens. But we need 262 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.119 to deal with this. You know, we need to talk 263 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.400 to a professional, and we need to we need to 264 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.720 sort of incorporate these personalities. We need to get you 265 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.480 back on track. You're one person with one personality, you know, 266 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:45.160 or anorexia, like, hey, we understand you're struggling with this 267 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:50.319 and you feel fat, but you're not. You're actually significantly 268 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.519 underweight and you're doing long term damage to your body. 269 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.880 So we need to get you some food, right, You 270 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:02.559 would never affirm those things, like imagine, imagine an anorex 271 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.839 that came to you and it's like, I feel fat, 272 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:10.480 like I identify as fat. You'd be psychotic to say, yeah, 273 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.000 you know what, I support that you are fat. You 274 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.559 are fat, amen, sister, you know, and in fact, here's 275 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.000 a pill that will further suppress your hunger so that 276 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:26.279 you more closely resemble you know, the way you feel. 277 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.319 Because because you feel fat and you're trying to get skinnier, 278 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.400 so the right thing to do is affirm you here's 279 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:37.279 a GLP one agonist semaglue tide ozempic and uh yeah, 280 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:40.400 we got to get you scale. You need to lose 281 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.839 some weight. You know, it would just be crazy anyway, 282 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.279 some people, not me, Absolutely not me. How dare you 283 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:51.400 even insinuate this is what I'm saying because I'm not. 284 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:56.440 But some people out there, bigots might say that about 285 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:03.200 you know, if you're confused, you feel certain way you 286 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.240 could say, well, really, the only appropriate thing to do 287 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:07.319 is to kind of coach this person like, well, no, 288 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:10.519 you know that's that's not the case. You know, this 289 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.880 is this is how you're born. And you know, it 290 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.400 is true that within each gender there is sort of 291 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.440 a spectrum, right, there are more masculine and more feminine men. 292 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.200 They're even gay men, which is a separate topic. But 293 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.039 there is sort of the spectrum. But that spectrum does 294 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:34.359 not transcend anatomy, right, And we would never try to 295 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:38.319 change your physiology or actually change your anatomical structure surgically 296 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:43.039 to to make that happen, unless unless there really is 297 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:47.400 some kind of like sexual dimorphism thing going on. Some 298 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.839 people are born with unclear genitalia, you know, so that 299 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.440 would be a different thing. But the vast majority that's 300 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:58.720 not the case. Wow, we're really going into it. I 301 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:04.559 wasn't expecting to do this. Why am I doing this? Oh? 302 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.440 I think just to finish the story, which is I 303 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:15.039 ran into her recently beautiful adult woman, long hair, you know, 304 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.960 wearing female clothes instead of male clothes, saying she and 305 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.799 her and me and my boyfriend, you know, like complete 306 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:29.279 just complete resolution, you know what I mean, Just so 307 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.240 much happier, so happy, and it's like, well, yeah, it's 308 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:35.480 clearly like you were going through something, you know, and 309 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:38.319 it's sad and you should be comforted. That's why I 310 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:39.960 don't believe in being mean. I see a lot of 311 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:44.039 people who are mean to this group of people. I 312 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:47.160 don't think that's the way to go. I think these 313 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:51.640 people are you know, they're suffering. Now. They can't upset 314 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:55.160 people to hear that, right, So I generally try to 315 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.440 avoid the topic. But here we are, here we are. 316 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.079 Why am I talking about this? Oh? Just because this 317 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.920 is a topic. Trent also like, so I do agree 318 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:06.759 with him. I just think it's weird to only talk 319 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:11.160 about like but here, I just did it. I just 320 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:19.839 did it. Oh am, I'm a hypocrite, you know the 321 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.200 you know the this is the line. I've said this before. 322 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:23.960 But the reason I don't go to church is because 323 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.480 it's filled with hypocrites. And then the rejoinder is, yes, 324 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.319 but there's room for one more. Okay, that will be 325 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.759 the segue too. Talking about today's clip, did you guys 326 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.599 think the story was funny at least? Like do you 327 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.359 see the absurd humor in it? Like the boy crying 328 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.200 telling his boomer dad like, Dad, I'm a gay man. 329 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.000 And the dad's like, oh, son, why you know, I 330 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:54.559 just wanted a grandson. And what's his name? Oh? Well 331 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:59.359 his name is Tiffany. And and he's like, Tiffany, is 332 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:04.319 that his stay your name? No, no, that's their name. Okay? 333 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:09.039 And uh howl? How old is he? Well? Uh, it's 334 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:12.319 they don't go by he Actually, you know, they were 335 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:17.119 assigned female at birth and they go by they assigned 336 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.119 female at birth, you say, and so they've they've had 337 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:28.519 a like a transition surgery. No, no, no, totally you know, 338 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:33.079 biologically female, but identifies it. Okay, Okay, So what you're 339 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.240 telling me, son, is you are in a gay relationship 340 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:41.279 with a woman. No, Dad, I'm in a gay relationship 341 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:47.519 with a non binary person. Good Lord, No wonder the boomers. 342 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:53.319 The boomers hate my generation, so confusing. Anyway, today's episode 343 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.720 is what is God's Name? Unrelated to what I've been 344 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.720 talking about for the last twenty minutes, here we go. 345 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.160 Did you know that God's name is so sacred that 346 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.039 Catholics aren't allowed to say it in certain contexts? So 347 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.759 in today's episode, we'll examine the three thousand year old 348 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.960 mystery of God's name, when it can and can't be said, 349 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.720 and which religious groups still misunderstand God's name and identity today. Now, 350 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.400 right off the bat, you should know God's personal name 351 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:22.000 isn't God, just as the President's personal name isn't mister President. 352 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.599 The word God comes from an Old German word meaning 353 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.240 the invoked one. Now, a believer can use the title 354 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.960 God as a kind of name and refer to God 355 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:32.799 in that way, such as in the Liturgy of the 356 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.759 Hours when we pray, Oh God, come to my assistance, 357 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.319 Oh Lord, make haste to help me. But scripture reveals 358 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.319 God's personal name in Exodus chapter three, when it describes 359 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.720 Moses encountering God in the burning bush. It says, then 360 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.960 Moses said to God, if I come to the people 361 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:48.960 of Israel and say to them, the God of your 362 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.240 father's has sent me to you, and they ask me, 363 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.720 what is his name, what shall I say to them? 364 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:57.480 God said to Moses, I am who I am, And 365 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.160 he said, say this to the people of Israel, I 366 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:01.559 am has sent me to you. 367 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.599 The Friend. So I think that is kind of interesting, 368 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:09.440 because we had that those two episodes we did on 369 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:14.000 whether or not Jesus claim to be God. So the 370 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:21.079 actual name that's given to Moses by God is I Am. 371 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:25.880 I Am, And so I think that's fascinating. I can't 372 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.079 explain why exactly, but to me that is fascinating. He says, 373 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:33.880 what is your name? And the name is Bean, like 374 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.039 Bean is what I am. I do notice a lot 375 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.920 of like kind of new age collective consciousness. People sort 376 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.440 of use this like the Kingdom of Heaven is within 377 00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:46.480 you that Jesus talks about, and to kind of say 378 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.200 like that we are all a peace of God. And 379 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.000 I don't think that's totally wrong, right, because God breathes 380 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:57.640 his breath into dust to make us in the Garden story, 381 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:01.480 so it kind of implies there is something from God 382 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:05.720 in us, and that's reiterated throughout the Bible. When you die, 383 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.640 you give up the ghosts and it goes back to 384 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:14.599 God until the resurrection. Now this is a theological hot 385 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.079 topic actually what I just said, but believe it there. 386 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.960 But I didn't realize that the name Yahweh, which is 387 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:24.240 kind of traditionally thought of as the name of the 388 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.359 of God in the Old Testament, might actually come We'll 389 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.960 let Trent explain it, but might actually come from the 390 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:36.039 same word. So it could be that God's name really 391 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:42.880 is just I am being itself. Right. It's possible. Now 392 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.200 we don't know that for sure, but we'll let's let trin. 393 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:46.720 Exwain he ay as I am who I am is 394 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:50.599 aah aa and Hebrew. In verse fifteen, the word rendered 395 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:56.079 i am comes from four consonants rendered yh wh in English. 396 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.960 So the word that means I am is the word 397 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.799 that we what's it called the something a graham yhwh. 398 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.240 There's a name for it, but you know there's no vowels, 399 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.079 but we think you pronounce it yahweh. It's the name 400 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.240 is actually just I am, you know. And it's okay 401 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.640