WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:21.600 Okay, we're in the middle of November. What the heck happened? 2 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:25.760 Man, It seems like we just started and we are 3 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:29.600 going to be flying to Guatemala City at the end 4 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:34.240 of the month. Everyone gathers, some explorers gather with me 5 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:40.840 in Guatemala City for twelve to thirteen day discovery of 6 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:44.560 some of the most amazing may insights in the world. 7 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:49.759 And we're talking to Call and Elmador and some other 8 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:55.079 smaller sites. But we don't really know the inception date 9 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.679 for these places because they're extremely old. And what a 10 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.159 lot of people don't recognize is that when the conquistadors 11 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.319 the Spanish arrived to the New World, which is North America, 12 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:12.599 Mexico and Central America, what they were looking at were 13 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:16.719 the descendants of the great builders of these cities like 14 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.840 t Call. And I didn't recognize this until I was 15 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.439 mentored by an elder, a man named Humbat's Men. I 16 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:30.000 talk about him in my upcoming book, The Mayan Controversy, 17 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.239 and he told me that what we experience, or what 18 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:39.200 the Spanish experienced, were not only the descendants, but they 19 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:46.280 had evolved into sacrificial blood sports, human sacrifice and so forth, 20 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:51.480 and so on because they didn't have any guidance and 21 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:57.920 the great minds behind these ancient cities. This was a 22 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.439 whole different type of a person. There was a whole 23 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.040 different type of Homo sapien. In fact, it's widely thought 24 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:11.199 that what the archaeological community looks at today isn't anything 25 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:17.680 close to what the people were who actually designed and engineered. 26 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:21.000 Many of the Great cities. This is a true The 27 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:25.680 Maya are a true pyramid culture, and it's beginning to 28 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:30.919 show that we need to be more cognizant of unseen 29 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.000 forces like telluric energy. I talk about tleric feels all 30 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:37.400 the time we had Christine on the program. Chris is 31 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.800 talking about tleric energy coming out of the Great Pyramid. 32 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:45.240 The ancient Egyptians, the Dynastic, prior to the Dynastics, the 33 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:53.280 pre Dynastic people were very astute at collecting, energizing, and 34 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.879 disseminating energy. We don't know how it was distributed because 35 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.599 there's nothing left of any of the transferred devices. If 36 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:04.159 they were coils, or if they were two's, if they 37 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:10.960 were stone, we don't know. So advanced to our understanding 38 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.840 of science that we can only guess now, but we 39 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:18.159 do know from the little bit we've obtained that the 40 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:22.000 Maya not only were a pyramid culture, but according to 41 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:27.719 a number of elders at their capacity, at the highest capacity, 42 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:32.759 there were over fifty five thousand pyramid cities from Honduras 43 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:39.680 to the middle of Mexico that would be the Yucatan Peninsula. Hey, 44 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.439 this is cliff from Earth ancients and today we are 45 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.280 going to discover the genius of the Maya in their 46 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.680 books which are otherwise known as codises. And I've had 47 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.159 a chance to see and we've talked to Ed Barnhardt, 48 00:03:54.199 --> 00:04:00.680 doctor Barnhardt about thirty or so known excavation of cities 49 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:07.159 that are considered Maya in Mexico, in Central America. But 50 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:12.639 if there were fifty five thousand, that's a scratch, that's 51 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.039 a tip of the iceberg. That's one percent or less. 52 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:18.000 And that's not even talking, that's not even considering what 53 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:23.040 this lightar scan unveiled back in twenty eighteen when they 54 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:29.560 scanned the Guatemalan biosphere and found sixty thousand, six zero 55 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:36.639 three three zero zero zero unknown communities, civic areas, pyramids 56 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.839 and so on that have never never been seen before. 57 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.800 And one of the things by the way that a 58 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.839 lot of people don't know about is there are very 59 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:51.800 unusual shaped pyramids and temples, which represents a whole different 60 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:56.600 aspect of the Maya. Now, a lot of people believe 61 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.439 in what we're told by the archaeological community is that 62 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:04.800 the ma are approximately three thousand years old. Well, I've 63 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:10.360 been going to Yucatan and to Mexico for over three decades, 64 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.759 and I have to tell you, not only does that 65 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.600 not make sense when you look at the great age 66 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.959 of many of these buildings, but the oral traditions, the 67 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.720 traditions that have been handed down revealed that the Maya 68 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.360 congregated as a collective and this is a multi racial, 69 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.959 multi ethnic group of people that gathered from all parts 70 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:39.720 of the different all parts of the planet, Africa, Asia, 71 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:44.480 Europe well pleasant day or Europe, Middle East, and whatever 72 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.600 is in Southeast Asia. These are the people that gathered 73 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:54.680 probably over twelve thousand or more years ago. The elders 74 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.839 tell me it's about twenty to twenty eight thousand years 75 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.560 as close to that as they can get. But I 76 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:04.480 don't know. I mean, there's just no writing. And we 77 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.759 do know of the thousands of codises that were once 78 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:15.079 available a complete library. Only four books are left and 79 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.720 that's all we got. And that leads me to today's show. 80 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:26.040 Today's program is a discussion a decipherment of these codises 81 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:31.199 and most notably the Brogaia Codex, which is in Europe, 82 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:40.519 and how it actually describes machines and biology and calindrical 83 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.759 data reading. This is why a lot of the Maya 84 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:50.439 are considered daykeepers, because they're calindrical calendar masters, calendar scientists, 85 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:53.279 and they can tell what time of the year to 86 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.720 plant their crops. In fact, some of the more fine 87 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:02.120 tune daykeepers were used and they would tell a newly 88 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.199 married couple or a couple that wanted to have a child, 89 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.160 what time of year, what day, if possible, to conceive 90 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.480 a child, and what would what the child would turn 91 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.560 out to be if they did it on this date 92 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.160 as close as possible, what they could what they could 93 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.439 predict that the child would would grow up to be, 94 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:29.519 what their role in life would be. So these codises 95 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.480 that we have left to us are brilliant, but the 96 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.879 most important thing, and I don't remember if you if 97 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.199 you guys, if you remember, about seven years ago, we 98 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:44.759 had Jim o'caonhn who was a forensic engineer on he 99 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:48.199 wrote a book on the Maya, and he was told 100 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.680 about in the nineteen sixties when he was down there, 101 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:56.759 that most of the codses, in fact all of them, 102 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:02.319 all of the codises are translated from technical manuals, and 103 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:10.079 these manuals were used for observing planets for crop development. 104 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:19.000 They were the last vestiges of the brilliant ancestors of 105 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.720 the Maya. This is going to be important look at 106 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:25.439 what we can expect. And as we look at these 107 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.759 courtisies a little better, we can begin to introduce artificial 108 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.399 intelligence as it's tweaked in such a way, and this 109 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:37.799 will also help us gain great leaps in terms of decipherment. 110 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.480 And this is the big problem we have with Maya 111 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:45.240 hieroglyssics decipherment. And this is the problem I have with 112 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:51.080 the archaeological communities. They did not in the late nineteen 113 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:56.440 fifties and sixties confer with the elders and with the 114 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:01.639 daykeepers of the time. They decided to go alone. And 115 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.600 these Western scientists were working at the best they can 116 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.960 to decipher the hieroglyphics. But if you don't work with 117 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.639 the people that are still alive, I mean what the 118 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.200 hell what are you doing? So today we're gonna learn 119 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.960 about a number of aspects of these courtises, why they 120 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:23.600 are important, the scientific data behind these codises, and what 121 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:27.320 we can learn by the sipherment. So today's program is 122 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:39.120 a true prehistory. And my guest is Aloy's eyeling. Hey, 123 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.559 the seventh annual Grand Egyptian Tour is coming up. We 124 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:47.120 have Mohammad and Nohah, bring him with us. We're going 125 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.879 to be visiting Tennis, Egypt, which is very very old. 126 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:52.879 We don't know what happened there. It looks like a 127 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:59.720 catastrophic event happened. It has megalithic structures, statues, and some 128 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.399 large pieces strewed around Muhammad. What do we know about Tennis? 129 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.919 What makes it so unique? 130 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:10.759 What we know about Tennis unfortunately so little, but it 131 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:14.559 is so little inconvenior with the importance and the greatness 132 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:18.759 of Tennis. But for us it is very high level 133 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.799 of information. Number one, what we know that Tennis was 134 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.879 a great center of knowledge in ancient Egypt. It was 135 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:32.279 the big city receiving all the travelers and immigrants and 136 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:37.399 visitors to Egypt from the northeast part of Egypt. They 137 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.480 come across Sinai. The second thing about Tennis that there 138 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.000 was a massive size tembile or I can call it 139 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:51.559 big town. We call it temble dedicated to Amonra. This 140 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.279 tembile or this village, if I can call it, this 141 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.799 way was completely built out of rose granite fromas one. 142 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:03.360 You know what, people don't know that there was more 143 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:08.159 than twelve obelisks in Tennis, maybe more, but the remains 144 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.320 some of them still in good condition, but all of 145 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.440 them are laying on the ground. The one they took 146 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:16.799 it to the Grand Museum, the one in front of 147 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.679 the main gate of the Grand Museum is from Tennis, 148 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.559 and the one in Tarry Square now is from Tennis. 149 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.639 So there are about ten obelisks or eight obelisks still 150 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:32.279 there at Tennis. So the story is very strange because 151 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.320 we expected even if the temple was in bad condition, 152 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.960 we expected more ruins, to see more cat ORed blocks, 153 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.320 but we found only few. But we found the biggest. 154 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:49.240 By the way, there are remains of blocks weighing more 155 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:52.320 than two hundred ton and three hundred ton we found 156 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.639 the foot of a statue. According to the dimension of 157 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.919 the foot, the statue would be more than fifteen hundred ton. 158 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:02.679 The foot is like a car size. 159 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:03.240 Wow. 160 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.120 Okay, so we don't know what happened exactly. It must 161 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.559 be something very strong hit tennis and hit that temple 162 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:16.679 and it causes it caused great damage, like great exublusion 163 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.960 happened inside the temple and caused that all the pieces 164 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.039 are scattered on a distance maybe like three or four 165 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:26.639 kilometers wide. 166 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:27.519 Amazing. 167 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.440 When people go to tennis, they're going to feel the 168 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:34.320 magic and they feel the dips of the history of tennis. 169 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:36.840 I join us. It's going to be April twenty eight 170 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:40.360 through May tenth. For all the details and the itinerary, 171 00:12:40.399 --> 00:13:25.360 go to Earth Agents dot com Forward Slash Tours. We 172 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.519 have a returning guest this week. He has written a 173 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:32.039 number of articles in the Graham Hancock website. His name 174 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:37.120 is Elloye's Ealing and he is a German. He's actually retired. 175 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.519 He's a former chemical researcher. But he's written extensively about 176 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.440 prehistory and he has a new book out called The 177 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:51.639 True Er Prehistory, The True or Prehistory, An Unofficial History 178 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:57.000 of Human Man and Earth. It's volume one. And what 179 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.840 is unique about this book is that he is very 180 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.559 much focused on prehistory and our missing prehistory. In other words, 181 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:10.600 we have a lot of guesses on what has taken place, 182 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.080 but as a researcher, like many of us, we filled 183 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:21.240 there's a huge void in our understanding of the of 184 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.360 the past. So we're gonna learn a little bit about 185 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:28.600 this new book, the Truer Prehistory in our interview today. 186 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:32.440 So hey, elloy, welcome back to Earth. Anxient is great 187 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:37.919 to have you, okayver, Yeah, what influenced you to write 188 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.399 this book? Was it a combination of the articles that 189 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:44.159 you had written, or was there something that you discovered 190 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.279 that you felt needed to be presented in a book. 191 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:55.039 Okay, maybe just for introduction to But then I retired, 192 00:14:55.120 --> 00:15:00.200 I decided to go into the prehistory and to get 193 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:04.840 a better understanding of what was the real ire the 194 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:10.559 past of man. And I checked various sources, and one 195 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.720 of the sources, by chance, these codexes in Mexico from 196 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:19.360 the attack time before the Spanish coced the country, and 197 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.840 it really struck me like like lightning when I when 198 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:29.480 I suddenly realized, hey, this is something which is biochemistry. 199 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:35.080 It's it's not some fancy mouse or some fancy uh 200 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.279 pictures of quality or some nonsense. This is really not 201 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:44.279 an really science. And so I started to dig deeper 202 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:48.519 and deeper deeper, and in fact I attended even for 203 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:53.519 two years lectures in biochemistry as to local university, just 204 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.840 to get a better understanding of what was was inside. 205 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.960 And as I proceeded, I really realized this is is 206 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:09.519 not superficial, it's really in depth scientific. What is shown there. Obviously, 207 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:15.799 the the pictures, they are not according to our way 208 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:20.440 to formulate chemistry. So they do not write merelylecules or 209 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.000 some form. They do it in a way which is 210 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.679 more I think, adapted to their culture. And one has 211 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.559 to do, I think, to recognize that the original books 212 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.639 are lost, they're gun for a long time, so what 213 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:40.919 be looking at are copies, copies of something from long 214 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.240 gone gun times. And these copies they were adjusted to 215 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.039 what the people in their daily life, daily life experience, 216 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:53.399 and so one has to look behind the curtain sometimes. 217 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.519 But if you do so, then you really get struck 218 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:03.159 what is in there. So it's not let's a simple chemistry, 219 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.920 it is it is something for example, which was in 220 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:13.559 in recently in twenty two, a Nobel price was given 221 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:18.000 to the person who who invented this kind of of 222 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:23.799 modification of DNA, and this is something nobody can imagine. 223 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:26.119 Are you talking about Crisper. 224 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.599 Yeah, Chrisper, exactly, Chrisper. And this is an idea to 225 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:38.920 really to tune DNA. What maybe just to explain if 226 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.000 you if you want to tune DNA, one has to 227 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:46.319 imagine that the length of this DNI and DNA strand 228 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:49.920 is about two meters two meters, and if you blow 229 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.759 up the sickness to the sickness of an hair, the 230 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:58.720 length of that strand increases to one hundred miles almost 231 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.319 And to tune pinpointing the exact position, you have to 232 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.720 do it by the inch, So that means you have 233 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.759 to address a position on the strength of one hundred 234 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:17.160 miles to an inch accuracy. And this is unbelievable how 235 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.759 they do it and how they learn to do it. 236 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:24.400 And one of these techniques techniques is Crisper Cuss. And 237 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.599 you find an exact replication of Crisper Cuss also in 238 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:34.240 the codexes in the in the in one picture of 239 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:40.240 the codex Borgia, you have exactly a mimicry of this 240 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:46.079 modern presentation to an engine representation. And in these cases 241 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.279 you can even look at the strand and how it's 242 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.799 it's attached to the substrate and things like that, so 243 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:58.240 it's it's maybe not obvious, but if you understand what 244 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:02.920 is shown, then it became obvious. And I have also 245 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:08.839 you are to stress that the pictures are not isolated. 246 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.559 So there's picture here, pictures there, and fragments and you 247 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.920 have to sort it and put it together a book. 248 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:20.240 So you find everything in it. Molecuts, you find DNA, 249 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:25.039 you find aeron a, you find how to do a 250 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:29.839 modification of DNA. You have all these deep in depths 251 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.640 in promation in these various pictures. So it's a book 252 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.839 of genetics, it's not. And codecs of some mad guys, 253 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:44.319 which I think this is really pity the Spanish at 254 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.880 that time that didn't know what they had in hand, 255 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:51.640 so they burned maybe ninety nine percent of what they found, 256 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.400 and only a very little of the book survives. And 257 00:19:55.599 --> 00:20:03.200 this one was by chance the batary of the Vatican 258 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.359 in Rome, and there it was stored on a very good, 259 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.519 nice conditions and it survived. And so we can have 260 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.759 this for an example what was known to our interests. 261 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.160 Want to I want to talk a little bit about 262 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.519 the these codises, because I have studied the Dresden codis 263 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.079 a little bit. But the one you're talking about, the 264 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.960 Borgaia code. 265 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:31.240 Example, okay in German d SA Borgia, I do not know. 266 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:39.799 Huh. Years ago I interviewed an engineer who had spoken 267 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:45.480 to an elder in Yucatan, Mexico, and this elder Maya, 268 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.759 said that they had these coduses had been reproduced from 269 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:56.799 technical manuals, and this is exactly what you believe. But 270 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:01.400 the problem is that in the interpretation sometimes it doesn't 271 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:03.640 make a lot of sense because they didn't understand what 272 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.359 they were writing down. But if we go back to 273 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:12.680 the beginning, how old do you think these Mesoamerican cultures are? 274 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:16.759 Are they are they are these books in their libraries 275 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:19.920 or are they Are they being handed down by their 276 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.799 earlier generations? 277 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.240 Yeah, it's a generation task, so I think it's it's 278 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.440 thousands of years ago. But it was that important for 279 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.440 these people that they continued to copy, copy and copy, 280 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.880 and this copying was done in a very accurate manner. 281 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:43.319 They did not lose the content. Maybe they changed a 282 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:47.119 bit the kind how they drew, the different glues and 283 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:51.839 the different equipment and machines, but basically they kept the 284 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.319 content and they caught at Bodia itself. It dates from 285 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:02.160 the beginning of the sixteenth fifteenth century, so it's fairly new, 286 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.480 but it's just a copy, and I think it was 287 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:10.200 it was a tough poof for the priests, so they 288 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:13.440 did it to the best of their capabilities to keep 289 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:18.440 all the signs and all the information accurate and not 290 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.039 to miss any any dot or something like that. And 291 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.400 if you go into it, you really find, for example, 292 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.799 the number of amino acids you which are in human 293 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.920 life or in early in the earthly life anyway, twenty 294 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:39.200 two amino acids are involved in billing you and me 295 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:44.079 and everybody's and everything on earth. And exactly you find 296 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.359 twenty two gloves in this codex Botia, not twenty not 297 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:53.480 twenty five, twenty two. And then the other stop board 298 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.480 is if you look at cups or at some some 299 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:03.559 machinery and equipment, then they always find signs. In four 300 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:09.160 they knew about the setup of the DNA. You have 301 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:15.400 four different molecules so called nuclear teeds, which build the DNA, 302 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:20.839 and they, as we also do it. They just use 303 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:24.480 different colors to present each of it. And so you 304 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:30.720 can really sometimes just replicate easily what it's thrown there 305 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.240 and what it's shown today. And I'm fairly sure they 306 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.720 were more advanced than we are. So what is the 307 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:42.400 state of the art in DNI DNA biochemistry is to 308 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:49.319 build artificial DNA. This is maybe the top of the 309 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.160 of the art for the moment. And you find machines 310 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.960 in these core exportia for example, but also in cordext 311 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:04.079 Cavaticanos pulosen survived, which really have one hundred percent fit 312 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.200 to what we do today. So you have the same 313 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:13.559 set up, you you have the same piping, the same flasks. 314 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:18.000 It's unbelievable how similar it is. But this is not 315 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:23.480 that surprising because if you if you're restricted to do something, 316 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:28.839 then the physical and chemical necessities they force you to 317 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.880 do it in the same way. And therefore the similarity 318 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:35.759 is for me another proof that my interpretation is a 319 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:41.079 correct one. Right, so and and okay, and it's unbelievable. 320 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:45.319 I only can can suggest and advise you take a 321 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.200 deeper look and understand, and that in the book I 322 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.200 always try to do it. I show the morons doing 323 00:24:55.319 --> 00:25:00.759 the modern waded out of then it and the Mexican way, 324 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:02.720 how they did do it. And then if you have 325 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.559 this one to one comparson, you easily understand this is 326 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:10.160 not by chance. This is in depth knowledge for what issues. 327 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:15.880 So were they genetically and I couldn't believe in the beginning. 328 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:16.519 I was struck. 329 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:21.640 Were they genetically enhancing Homo sapien? Or are you suggesting 330 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:28.519 in the interpretation of the Borgaea codecs that they are 331 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.720 showing how humans were created? 332 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:35.880 Yeah, I think this is maybe a little far fetching. 333 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:40.279 I cannot say that it was really creating men. There 334 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:45.559 are few drawings. They'll see that a child is coming 335 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.240 out of a box or things like that, or they okay, 336 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:55.680 this might somehow replicate the Yeah, the syentess of creation 337 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.880 of men. But the basic is that you find the 338 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.880 biochemistry which is mandatory to do this. So maybe they created. 339 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.279 But here it goes one step deeper and further it 340 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.160 says how they did do it? Not like in in 341 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:17.240 Suma or in in Mesopotamia, you have these news from 342 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:24.640 some gods who did some work to produce artificial Are 343 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:30.920 servants of slaves to ah to to do the the 344 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:35.599 for for for their daily life? Yeah, it's it's more 345 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:44.359 the scientific explication. How there else knowledge existed which allowed 346 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.279 them to do this. There is no spelling. The whole 347 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.920 Code Act is not a single line of a number 348 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.440 of any writing, nothing. It's only pictures. And so you 349 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:01.359 never can say okay, and there was a drawing and 350 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.400 say okay, yeah, we do this or that and this 351 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.119 make this or that. But this is missing. It's just 352 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:13.000 a selection of drawings and of logic set up, how 353 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:18.559 to produce DNA, how to combine it, how to modify it. 354 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:24.119 Everything is found in a little different way, but still visible. 355 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.920 How they understood it, and this is magic, This is 356 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.119 really magic how they did do it. And they were 357 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:36.599 advanced in compared it to us. Obviously they had synthesizing 358 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:41.599 machines which did automatically what today is done in the 359 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:48.240 tedious work in laboratories, so they were really at more advance. 360 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:53.079 And I have to admit I cannot understand all the drawings. 361 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.519 Maybe I understand ninety percent, but ten percent I do 362 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.559 not understand. And this is maybe because also we do 363 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.559 not know yet what's say I do ex there, so 364 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.960 that we that we are behind it. We can only 365 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.440 understand what we know ourself, but we cannot interpret something 366 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.039 which is out of the school for the moment. 367 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.400 We're gonna take a short commercial break to allow our 368 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.599 sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with 369 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:30.000 my guest today, Alloys Eileen, coming to us from Germany 370 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:38.440 and discussing his latest book, A True Prehistory. Will be 371 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:40.039 right back. 372 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:46.920 Hey, stick to the code with the coast of my 373 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:47.759 pros and don't play about her. 374 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.319 Rum's on the switch of the floe, sell on No. 375 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.079 We can give exits notion in love with the kid, 376 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.799 doman his god us packet for calling and bring me 377 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.519 no clothes. That's it. I'm coping of fill up the 378 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.079 rit meta hip from the netta. You know it's the 379 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.400 twitch quick quick, so I know it's the g After 380 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.079 we to meet up with the friends, they're like, what 381 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.359 happened you blowing and cracking nick game? But the coach 382 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.119 and the glitch. Yeah, I was outside so long, got 383 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.160 frost by. I ain't never stopped, no way, got foresight. 384 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:09.960 I'll be on tour, my bros. No tour guy pet 385 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.640 the floor and the dog get oh my soon as 386 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.079 they called my hey, yeah, she said, I look like 387 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.519 oh gez. But this ain't shortline, Moatop said, I'm at 388 00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:17.559 the art and get them. 389 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.519 My guess today is alloy ealing. He has written a 390 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.440 new book called The True Prehistory. This is a look 391 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.400 at the various courtises that are left to us by 392 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.359 various cultures, most notably the Maya and the Aztec in 393 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:42.599 meso America. Are there any other codices in any part 394 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.720 of the world that are similar to the meso American books? 395 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.960 No? No, maybe there there are these tablets of summer 396 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:56.400 that they will find. Uh yeah. Also also the the epics, 397 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:57.720 in addition that. 398 00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.920 The epic Yoga. 399 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:05.559 M hm, the epicsh yeah, no, not gevis It's it's 400 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:10.359 older it books. You know, arahass is one name and 401 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.880