1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,759 Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big 2 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:14,839 Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, DJ leaves. Yes. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,519 Speaker 2: Indeed, off of the Christmas holiday, we actually have some 4 00:00:18,679 --> 00:00:22,800 boxing action the Night of the Samurai early on Saturday 5 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:26,079 from his own pay per view the Ring five card 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,640 from riodd season. We're ready to go over that, some 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,039 fight news and get you into the weekend. I am 8 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:38,320 merely the somewhat capable host TJ Reeves here as we 9 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:41,560 get ready to preview the weekend. We have survived you 10 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:44,920 and I the holidays, the Christmas holiday, the whole bit. 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Hopefully everybody that's out there had a wonderful holiday season. 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,039 We're almost to the end of the year, Big Dan. 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,119 Good to be with you, and unlike some of the years, 14 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:58,880 we actually have some championship fights and some boxing on 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Christmas week week or Christmas weekend now in Japan they 16 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:04,079 usually do at the end of the year, but at 17 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:06,560 least we have it for this weekend, So welcome in 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,480 and we're always up for some fights. I mean, we've 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,799 been around family members and friends. Everybody gets aggravated with everybody. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: There was no. 21 00:01:13,879 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Hostility at least for me on Christmas Day or Christmas 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,480 Night in and around the reeves gatherings, but some people 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,920 get in the mood for some fights, some boxing, and 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,000 now we have that for this weekend. 25 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:26,719 Speaker 3: Good to be with you, Yes, sir, you know you 26 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:29,959 mentioned about Japan is often the time where they have 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 these championship fights at this time of year, during Christmas 28 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:35,799 week on New Year's Eve. This year, though, it's very light, 29 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:39,200 and the fights that would have been in Japan presumably 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,840 on this week are actually the event that's happening in 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,239 Riad because of the fact that in Away's on the card, 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,719 Nakatani's on the card, So just kind of look at it. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,719 As Japan goes to the Middle East for the week. 34 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: They loan it off for this night of the Samurai. 35 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,519 All right, again, we will get to the other two 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,480 bouts below the main event, the main events, the biggest. Again, 37 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:02,519 I say to the audience, you did an excellent job 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,879 with Junto Nakatani. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,439 Speaker 1: I got a little bit of feedback. 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,159 Speaker 2: I don't know how much feedback you got that people 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,479 actually enjoyed getting to hear that conversation again through the interpreter. 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,919 We had to get creative with the audio version of this, 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,680 so you've gotten to hear him. That's immediately before us 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 on the podcast feed. We'll talk about his fight in 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,039 a moment or two, but the main event is obviously 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,319 the Monster is back, and hey, let's hear it for activity. 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,080 As we say all the time, fourth time this year 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,360 that we're getting Naoya in a way, this time to 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,319 spending defending the undisputed Junior Featherweight championship with Alan David Picasso. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,199 This is a twelve round main event, so I'm excited. 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,840 I know it's going to be early on Saturday, but 52 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:47,879 I'm excited to see what the Monster does here in 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,560 this matchup. Give me more in the preview mode about 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,400 what you think about his latest defense here. 55 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, he is very active. As you mentioned, 56 00:02:56,599 --> 00:02:58,599 there is something to be said for activity, especially at 57 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:00,639 the top level. I mean, every time time he fights, 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,080 you kind of know right away that there's another fight 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,919 coming up. And it's no different now because even though 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,599 this is going to be a fourth fight of twenty 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,400 twenty five, we know that if things go the right 62 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,560 way for him on Saturday and for Nakatani, who fights 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,080 in the co feature, that they're going to be in 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,360 the next fight against each other come this spring. So 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,840 that's a great thing. So you can look forward to 66 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:22,159 see him fight Picasso, you can look forward to seeing 67 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,199 Nakatani and on their card, and then obviously if they 68 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:26,840 both win, it's not just a big mega fight for 69 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:29,120 Japanese boxing, probably the biggest fight in the history of 70 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:32,280 their country for boxing in terms of an all Japanese fight, 71 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,120 but great for boxing fans who just love to see 72 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:37,919 you know, elite, you know fighters who are on Hall 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,199 of Fame trajectories. Anyway, he's already going to be a 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,319 lot of Hall of Famer. Nakatani seems to be pounded 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,000 his way down that road. But in terms of the 76 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:49,080 actual fight he has on Saturday, on this on this 77 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:51,879 card in Saudi Arabia, Look, David Allen Picasso has been 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,400 for Alan David Pakasso. I always get that mixed up. 79 00:03:56,599 --> 00:03:59,919 They list them strictly as David Picasso on box Wreck, 80 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:03,719 but his name is actually even Alan David Pacazo. Nonetheless, 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,280 he's a hand picked kind of guy, like he's undefeated, 82 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:08,840 he's got a great record. He's thirty two to h 83 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:12,039 to one with seventeen knockouts. They wanted him to fight 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,480 a Mexican opponent. He is a reputable opponent in that sense, 85 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:18,920 you know, kind of got a gift and not a gift, 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,959 but was very very close to losing the fight he 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,319 had in July against another Japanese fighter that took place 88 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:27,279 in Las Vegas. And you know, he's getting this great 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,639 opportunity to fight for the undisputed junior featherweight title. But 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,839 he's a heavy underdog. And you know, if in a 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,560 way is you know, been what in a way has been, 92 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,399 which is just a brutal puncher and a top guy 93 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:40,680 for years, this should not be too much problems now 94 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,879 if you look at his recent fighte So there's been 95 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:45,560 a couple of kinks in that arm or so to speak, 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,439 because he did get knocked down by Ramon Cardenis back 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,839 in May in a great fight. He ended up getting 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 the stoppage in a way in round number eight, but 99 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:56,680 he did get dropped in the second round. It was 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,160 a legit knock down. It was a few fights before 101 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:01,600 that where he's nearly put him on his rear end 102 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,160 for the first time in his career. He did get 103 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,079 some competition from Acmadalia of that was the you know, 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,279 the supposed boogeyman of the one hundred and twenty two 105 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,639 pound division that he had not yet fought. Other than 106 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:14,879 that he had fought everybody. He finally fought them fought 107 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,040 him in a long overdue mandatory that took place in September. 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,319 So if you take a look at the if you 109 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:24,040 characterize the in a way year before fights, that's a 110 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:27,040 great thing. But it's not been against top guys. He's 111 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:29,920 been the late replacement for Sam Goodman, which was a 112 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,839 mandatory which I didn't really think was that big of 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,639 a fight anyway, but they stepped down to the replacement, 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,199 which was ye June Kim that took place in January 115 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,879 in Japan. He wiped him out in four rounds. Then 116 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,759 the Kardenas fight, you know, Cardian has put up a 117 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,759 great battle against him and got the knockdown like you mentioned, 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,199 and ultimately got stopped and just off. As an aside. 119 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,079 It was this past Thursday, in the headliner of a 120 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,480 pro box card that Cardenas had his first fight since 121 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,000 then and looked really good, getting a very highlight reel 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,319 type knockout on the main event for that show. But 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,120 after he beat Cardenas in Las Vegas in a way 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 went back home to Japan, in September, he had the 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,199 big win against Akhmadaliav. That's the one sort of top 126 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,720 level victory of him for twenty twenty five. And now 127 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:13,680 he goes into this fight against Picasso in Saudi Arabia. 128 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,439 So not only four fights DJ, but four fights, two 129 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,560 in Japan, one in the United States, and now one 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,160 in Saudi Arabia. So he's not only fighting regular he's 131 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:25,959 being the definition of a world champions fighting all over 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,360 the world. And by the way, like that, yep, he 133 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,480 has been in nothing but world championship fights all the 134 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,959 way back to twenty and fourteen. I mean, he's closing 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,319 in on the record that Chavez. 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,959 Speaker 2: What's the number right now? It's twenty five, right, I. 137 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,079 Speaker 3: Believe I think this is going to be his twenty 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,839 seventh consecutive title fight, right, He's going to be involved 139 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:47,800 in the record that Tavis has is somewhere in like 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,839 I forget what is exactly, It's like thirty two or 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,560 thirty three or something. 142 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,439 Speaker 1: But this at this point, it's a fair statement to make. 143 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: There is no one in the last seven or eight 144 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:59,680 years of boxing that has fought this regularly in this 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,680 any championship fights besides this guy. 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,759 Speaker 1: I mean he's been in active, yes. 147 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: In the heavyweight division. When he retired in his after 148 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:13,040 his final fight against Anthony Joshua, it was Vladimir Klitschko 149 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:16,079 boxed in twenty nine world championship fights throughout his career. 150 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:18,519 That's the most in the heavyweight division. And in a way, 151 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 I mean, I'm I mean because he's he's not going 152 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:25,000 to have the record ever probably in one single division, 153 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:28,759 because he's boxed in multiple weight classes. He's fought, you know, 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,399 championships in you know, going all the way back to 155 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:33,240 when he started out. He was all the way down 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,519 in like the junior bandamweight division. So and and actually, 157 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,079 if you go all the way back to the beginning 158 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,439 of his career, his first world title came in one 159 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 hundred and eight pounds, and then he skipped over the 160 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,879 flyweight division. But anyway, the point is he he'll never 161 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,199 break a record for an individual weight class, probably because 162 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:52,079 of the fact but he fought in multiple divisions. But anyway, 163 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:54,879 he is already a historic figure. And now he's taking 164 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,879 his game to Saudi Arabia. They have a sponsorship deal 165 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:01,879 with I'm not really sure who the audience is for 166 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,279 this fight. I mean, I'm not a post of the 167 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:05,199 fighter anything like that. I'm happy to see the best 168 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,519 fighters in boxing. But in the United States, it's like 169 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,879 a fifty dollars pay per view at four o'clock in 170 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,560 the morning. 171 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:15,199 Speaker 2: Right, which I can't believe they're going to have. It's 172 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,680 going to get any people by that. 173 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: For it's it's such a bizarre time for us in 174 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:21,519 our country. 175 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: They're catering to he I mean, this is obvious. They're 176 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,120 catering to his Japanese audience because that's prime time Saturday 177 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:31,759 night in Japan, and so that's what they're doing, uh 178 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 with this And they're paying him a boatload of money. 179 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:36,519 And you have said this on more than one occasion. 180 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,679 I mean, he is making huge bag. 181 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: As the kids say, you think they'red on the street 182 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,399 for this fight TJ. He's getting paid about thirty million dollars. 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,759 Speaker 2: For year, I mean, and that tells you right there 184 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:49,480 what Turkey Alchik sees as the value. You didn't say 185 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,919 three million, Notice you didn't say five million. 186 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,399 Speaker 1: You said what again, thirty. 187 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: That's that's some serious bank for who this guy is 188 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,960 and for the bouts that are coming up. So U 189 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,200 stay tuned. If Picasso can give him any problems. Does 190 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,759 it take more than a couple Does it take more 191 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:08,320 than a couple of rounds for in a way to 192 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,159 figure him out? The one thing I love about in 193 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,279 a way, Uh, fantastic body puncher, and he will begin 194 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,240 to break guys down with the body shots. He did 195 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,279 it to ak Madaliev, if I'm not mistaken the Korean fighter. 196 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,600 It ended on a body shot. He did the same 197 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:25,600 thing with Cardinias when he was having trouble earlier in 198 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:27,120 the fight, he'd been knocked out. He went to the 199 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,840 body like I'm channeling my inner Mickey. We'll mention Rocky 200 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,559 a game before we're done. 201 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: The body that's what he loves to go to and 202 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:36,879 on Saturday. 203 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: You can make a very strong argument that in a way, 204 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,639 is the best body puncher currently in the sport of boxing. 205 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,559 I mean, there's other guys that are that are good 206 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,759 at body punching, but he is scoring a number of 207 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,240 knockouts in that in that manner, and he loves to 208 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,360 do it, and he goes there all the time, and uh, 209 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,399 you know that's a hard shot to return. 210 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: You can make the you make You can make the 211 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,679 argument too with Crawford retired with USAK and Limbo basically 212 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,399 fighting like once a year. This guy's probably the pound 213 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,399 for pound guy if he's fighting frequently enough. So enjoy 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,879 it while it continues three times a year, four times. 215 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: If you take Crawford and if you take him at 216 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,519 his word on the retirement, and that takes him out 217 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:17,200 of the equation, and then you're down for a long time. 218 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,679 We've talked about that. There's the top three and then 219 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,320 everybody else. So maybe now it's the top two hoosick 220 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,519 in in a way, uh, you know, a Van Rodriguez 221 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,360 knocking on the door, you know, better being up and 222 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,799 people share and a few other guys, but you know, 223 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:32,120 in a way, he's not only is he doing it impressively, 224 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,000 but he's doing it consistently regularly, and even though not 225 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,840 every opponent's a top dog, you know he has beaten 226 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,919 the the you know, you can't argue with the results. 227 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,080 The guy became un disputed to multiple divisions, which meant 228 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,559 you had to beat a lot of other champions to 229 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,720 do it. So he's beating the top guys in the division. 230 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,679 Even with Picasso. Again, he's not I don't consider him 231 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,080 to be like an elite contender, but he's an undefeated fighter, 232 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,240 and uh, you know, he is in a position to 233 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,519 have this opportunity. He's fought the guys he's supposed to 234 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:00,480 fight to get there. You know, I don't look at 235 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,440 him as like he's no, he's no like Tomato can 236 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:06,000 or anything like that. It's the opportunity of a lifetime 237 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,519 for me. I always try to think about we talk 238 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,559 about the stars, the you know, in a way, the 239 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,600 A sides. I always trying to think about things from 240 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,159 the perspective of the guy that's getting the opportunity. You know, 241 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,279 this is not the tenth biggest fight of Naway's career. 242 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:21,399 This is everything to Picasso, and sometimes that level of 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,720 commitment and anticipation and how important it is to you 244 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,440 can sometimes swing the balance that the talent is close, 245 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,519 but not so for the talent is close. But we're 246 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:31,240 gonna find out. 247 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: What you know, apupsets do happen, But the likelihood is 248 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:37,159 this guy's focused. He's got dynamite in both fists. He 249 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:39,879 is a star, a big time star in Japan, and 250 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:43,759 he's headlining this card again early morning Saturday US time, 251 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:46,559 but it is Saturday night in Japan. All right, on 252 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,519 to Knakatani. We spent some time talking about him. We 253 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,919 touched on it as we played the interview on the 254 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,960 Recap podcast the other night. This is a little known opponent, 255 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 a junior featherweight opponent. I thought it was interesting when 256 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:03,279 you interviewed him that he was saying, yes, it would 257 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:05,519 be an honorive fight in a way. You asked him, 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,600 do you really know him? He said no, he doesn't 259 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:09,840 really know in a way, but he's excited. 260 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: To be on this card. 261 00:12:10,519 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: You do not have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure 262 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,320 out what they're putting into motion here and Now's right, 263 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,080 it's like an open secret. Now Nakatani's got to take 264 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,480 care of business Saturday, and do we expect him so? 265 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,279 Maybe he is moving up in wait to be spectacular 266 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:25,799 in this fight. 267 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Does he need to be spectacular in this fight. 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: When you get to the edge, to a point where 269 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200 you're going to be in fighting it away and vice versa. 270 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,320 It's not about I mean, you'd like to look impressed him, 271 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,039 of course, but you know, in the immortal words of 272 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:41,320 Al Davis, just win baby. Just when you're on the 273 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,399 press business of the biggest fight in your country's history, 274 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,360 go out there and get the w Now, they don't 275 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,399 really know each other, but if you look and you 276 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 read and you talk to people around the business, they 277 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,000 kind of have always sort of known they probably fight 278 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:56,279 each other eventually, and so when there were opportunities for 279 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,519 in a way in Nakatani to spar together, they were 280 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 kind of like steered away from that, not to spar 281 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,720 with each other just on the champ. I mean, you know, 282 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,000 obviously guys spar and then they end up fighting. That 283 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,799 happens all the time. But for whatever reason, they decided, 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,639 you know, let's not do that, uh and uh and 285 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,360 move away from that particular situation. So if you ask 286 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,840 me in terms of Kna Katan, he's fighting Sebastian Hernandez, 287 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,960 who was twenty and zero, not a like you said, 288 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,360 not a well known fighter. He's got eighteen knockouts, clearly 289 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,519 can punch. Also from Mexico, twenty five years old. His 290 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,039 biggest win. If you look at the record, he hasn't 291 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:29,200 really fought too many known guys, but he does have. 292 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,200 In his last bout that took place in May, he 293 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,120 defeated in a ten round decision, Azat Jovinisian the crazy 294 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,360 crazy a who's been in some wars, was with the 295 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:39,879 Golden Boy for a long time off off for the 296 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,559 title at one twenty two, always gave great efforts and 297 00:13:42,879 --> 00:13:46,000 was in some tremendous battles. That's like the one win 298 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,720 he can hang his hot out. And if you ask me, 299 00:13:48,039 --> 00:13:49,879 and I've talked to a couple of people in the business, 300 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,519 there's a lot of people that think that the fight 301 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,080 that Nakatani has against Sebastian Hernandez, if if either guy 302 00:13:57,159 --> 00:14:00,759 is gonna get upset on this card, that maybe Hernandez 303 00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:03,159 has the better shot to do so than Picasso gains 304 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,320 in a way, So that's something to keep in mind. 305 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:08,720 But the bottom line is if they are the winners, 306 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,080 they're going to fight each other. The plans are may 307 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,000 at the Tokyo Dome, which will sell out and do 308 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,320 a huge crowd. I mean, they're camp's top rank was 309 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,679 talking about this two years ago, probably as a possibility, 310 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:23,720 and na Katani is kind of taking the back seat 311 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,039 a little bit because of the fact that in a 312 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,080 way is the superstar. But na Katani has a lot 313 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,639 of accomplishment. Also, he gave up the unified bandamweight title 314 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,840 recently to move up to make his junior featherweight debut 315 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,000 in this bout. He's also been a champion in two 316 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,039 other weaight classes three overall, so he's looking to make 317 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,240 his debut here at one hundred and twenty two and 318 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,720 then in his next fight get the chance to try 319 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:45,720 to become a four division world champion by bump, but 320 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:47,639 not only get the titles, but also to do so 321 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,679 against the number one fighter in Japanese boxing history. I mean, 322 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:53,159 if you take a look at the history of Japan, 323 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,000 they produced a ton of champions through the years, a 324 00:14:55,039 --> 00:15:00,360 lot of great fighters, several Hall of famers. The lling 325 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:03,279 notion is that the greatest fighter in Japanese history is 326 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,399 fighting Herada. But in a way, maybe because of the 327 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,120 number of weight classes and the regular activity and the 328 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,519 devastating power and and that sort of stuff, may have 329 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:14,159 surpassed him at this point. I think a lot of 330 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,720 people would say that is the case, and Nakatani, if 331 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:19,559 you can then go in the ring. And by the way, 332 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,279 not like Nakatani doesn't have an impressive record. Uh, in 333 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,000 a way is thirty one to oh, but guess who 334 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:26,480 else is also thirty one to know? What's twenty four 335 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:30,440 knockouts junto Nakatani also, by the way, as a southpaw, 336 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,519 and also is I mean maybe in a way is 337 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:34,600 the best body puncher in boxing, but Nakatani might be 338 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,639 number two. I mean their their records are very similar. 339 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:39,559 He's thirty one to know what twenty seven in a way, 340 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Nakatani's thirty want to know what twenty four knockouts? So 341 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,399 and they've been They've both fought, you know, good opposition. 342 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,879 I just think Nakatani is a spectacular fighter to watch 343 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,399 as is in a way, and I have said to 344 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,240 you many times that the fight I want to see 345 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,000 the most as boxing would be Nakatani against Sam Rodriguez. 346 00:15:55,039 --> 00:15:56,519 But you know what, I'll certainly take in a way 347 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 against Nakatani, and maybe the winner that fight could tee 348 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,840 it up with with Bam at some point. But look, 349 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:07,159 it did the the matchups are not spectacular on this 350 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,159 card in terms of like the name recognition or the accomplishments 351 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,919 of the opponents. It's all about seeing the two top 352 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,039 guys who are great elite fighters in the sport today 353 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:16,639 go in there and do their thing and try to 354 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,080 set up the big fight. It's no different than back 355 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,960 in the day, for example, when you know Top Rank 356 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,759 was trying to build up to Julio Sesar Chavez Senior 357 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,559 against Oscar de la Hoya and they fought the prelude 358 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,039 to Glory on HBO and they both took on master 359 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,440 opponents to set up the big fight. We've seen those 360 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,240 types of things happen a thousand times in boxing. This 361 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,799 is just the next one. It just happens to involve 362 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 two Japanese and it's taking place at four o'clock in 363 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,360 the morning the United States Eastern Time in Saudi Arabia. 364 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,279 But it's the same old tried and true concept in boxing. 365 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,399 Get the big champions and the top dogs to you know, 366 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,080 go in there, get their so called tune up with 367 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:53,759 the appetite for the fans even more, and let's go 368 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:54,840 for the big one after. 369 00:16:54,679 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: That and real quick cify, clarify because you always are 370 00:16:58,799 --> 00:17:02,639 in on this and I love the insight. The agreement 371 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:05,200 is to fight in the Tokyo Doma and that is 372 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Turkey al Chic backing that or is it teaking in Honda? 373 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,160 Is it both of them? And listen, is there anything 374 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 else in the way of it or what do we 375 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:15,480 know that could be in the way of it. 376 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: There's no political issues and ill who's going to be 377 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,680 the promoter? First of all, mister Honda oversees lots of 378 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,960 things in boxing, but Ohashi Promotions is the actual promoter 379 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,720 for in a way, Na Katani has been with mister Honda, 380 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,480 he's been co promoted by Top Rank. I'm not sure 381 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:31,519 if they're still involved in a way. Of course has 382 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:33,160 been involved with Top Rank, but when he's fought in 383 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,960 the United States, even though they've shown Top Rank to respect, 384 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,400 when he fights in Japan, because you know Bob Aaron 385 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,240 will go over to the fight things along those lines, 386 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,599 regardless of the promotional entanglements, regardless of whether it's involving 387 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,920 of riad season or anything like that. All you got 388 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,359 to know if you're a boxing fan is that if 389 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,160 they win on Saturday and they come away without any 390 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,880 particular injuries, that there's a almost certainty that they will 391 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,960 fight each other in the spring and what will be 392 00:17:58,039 --> 00:18:01,000 a very very big fight. High for one will very 393 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:04,079 much look forward to it and absolutely and as far 394 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,839 as the Saturday show goes, look, I'm going to watch 395 00:18:05,839 --> 00:18:07,000 the show because that's what I. 396 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Do well real quick. 397 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: Willibaldo Garcia can Shiro Taraji. Maybe a little bit of 398 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,119 an underrated fight because Taraji always seems to mix it up. 399 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,400 Had the tremendous fight with a Koui that was earlier 400 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,240 this year, right, and this is now for Willibaldo Garcia's 401 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:25,960 IBF Junior bantamweight championship. So that is a third fight 402 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:29,079 we get again. For the audiences listening to us in 403 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,960 the West, if you're up late on Friday night and 404 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,920 hanging out, you'll get this fight probably before you knock off. 405 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,880 For those of us in the East, we're probably in 406 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,000 the bed at some point in the middle of the night. 407 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:42,359 But that fights say a little more about that fight 408 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,000 before we move on. 409 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: Taraji for years has been a tremendously fun and exciting 410 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,200 fire to watch. It's been a lot of top guys 411 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:50,440 in the lower waight classes. He's been a champion for 412 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,559 a long time that junior flyweight when he lost that fight, 413 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,000 lost that title to Yabooki back in twenty twenty one 414 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:00,200 on a tenth round knockout. He then came back in 415 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,680 the next fight and scored an even easy and scored 416 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,559 an easy knockout against him to regain that title and 417 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,119 get the revenge. So he became a you know, a 418 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,279 two division or a two time champion in one hundred 419 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:13,720 and eight pound way class. He then moved up in 420 00:19:13,759 --> 00:19:17,160 way to the flyweight division. You know, he defeated Rosales, 421 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,079 who was a pretty good fighter to win that title 422 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:22,599 back in twenty twenty four. Then he referenced the tremendous 423 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,240 twelve round knockout against the Koubi to retain the title. 424 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:29,440 He then lost in a huge upset in July. He 425 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:32,759 lost the flywaight title in that very big upset to 426 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:36,039 Ricardo Sandobal, the American golden boy fighter that went to 427 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,319 Japan and scored, you know, a huge upset. And so 428 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,880 now he's now fighting for a different version of the 429 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,079 flyway title, or he's moving I should say he's moving 430 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,799 up to this to the one hundred and fifteen pound 431 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,880 weight class and taken on Wilebaldo Garcia for the IBF 432 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,279 title in that weight class. Now, Wilibaldo Garcia is a 433 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:55,960 guy that if whoever wins this fight, whether it's Wilebaldo 434 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,839 or it's Taraji, the obvious fight is going to be 435 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,480 a Daan rodriguezro undisputed. Willibaldo got the title because of 436 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:09,400 fighter vacating to not fight him because there was a 437 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,799 big This was back in the day of Ioka who 438 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:15,000 went and took the rematch with Puma Martinez and Willbaldo 439 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:17,359 ended up winning the title. So he made some good fights. 440 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,240 He had a draw with Renee Calixto and they got 441 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,640 a rematch for the title with still vacant, so he 442 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,000 won that fight. So he's now making his first offense 443 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:28,839 and if Taraji's got anything left, this should be quite 444 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:30,960 the battle because Wi Lebaldo is going to be the fight. 445 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:33,240 And we all seen Taraji if you watched any of 446 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,960 these Japanese cars that have you know, thankfully been available 447 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,079 to American audiences for the last few years at the 448 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:41,000 time when Top Rank was doing all of these events 449 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,559 on ESPN Plus, they would do these fights on ESPN 450 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:47,119 Plus all the time. As we discussed many times Breakfast 451 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,279 in Japanese Boxing. Yes, sir so Taraji Wi Lebaldo. Honestly 452 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,319 that that has a chance maybe to like steal the show. 453 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Like the good thing about it is Taragi Nakatani in 454 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,240 a way are all action fighters. All three of them 455 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,160 make action fight. They're all very crowd pleasing guys, and 456 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,880 they're really good. I mean, Taraji doesn't have the profile 457 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,440 of it in a way, it may not have quite 458 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,079 as much accomplishment, But I look at his record, and 459 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,279 I've watched tons that I've watched pretty much all Taraji's 460 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,599 world title fights. He's twenty five and two with sixteen 461 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,359 and the one of the losses he avenged by a knockout. 462 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,039 He is a borderline Hall of Famer to me. I mean, 463 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,160 if he keeps doing this thing for a couple more fights, 464 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,240 I mean to me, he's going to get in the 465 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,519 Hall of Fame someday. Whether Willibaldo Garcia can hold him off, 466 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:32,200 Whether the weight will make a difference, because he's moving 467 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,200 up on other three pounds. It may not sound like 468 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,079 a lot, but in those little weight classes, it can 469 00:21:36,079 --> 00:21:36,920 make a big difference. 470 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: That is what we're about to find out. So those 471 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,240 three fights again early early Saturday morning in the United States, 472 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,200 and again a lot of people will probably watch with 473 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:48,640 your if you have his own et cetera. And again 474 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920 it's a pay per view later in the morning. If 475 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,119 you choose to watch this. The highlights will be available 476 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,039 on social media and on YouTube. 477 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:58,039 Speaker 1: And we'll obviously talk about it on the recap podcast. 478 00:21:58,279 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: There are also there are also two other fights on 479 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,839 the show, just not at the championship level, with the 480 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,359 prospect another Japanese fighter, and unfortunately, because of the injury 481 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,480 to Hayato Sasumi, his title challenge against James Dickens for 482 00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:14,160 the WBA's one hundred and thirty pounds title was canceled. 483 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,960 So that should have been on this card also, But 484 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:17,640 now that's not happening, all right. 485 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: Can't do anything for Dickens there in the one week 486 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,039 breach they had for that. Maybe those two will fight 487 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:24,880 again down the road, but just not on this card, 488 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,119 all right. Some news as expected. We kept using that 489 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,319 phrase around Anthony Joshua was expected to knock out Jake Paul, 490 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,839 You and I said that. Everybody basically said they thought 491 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:37,119 that would happen, And I said to you, I believe 492 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 this audience would be And I even couched it as 493 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:43,960 not only live but on demand in the immediate probably 494 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,960 twelve hours or so after the fight, this would probably 495 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,400 be a thirty million audience. I gauge that off of 496 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 what and we'll compare it to the Mike Tyson, Jake 497 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,079 Paul Netflix broadcast, I said around thirty million. It he 498 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,279 ends up now that they announced on Tuesday of Christmas 499 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:03,119 week here thirty three million people watched it in their 500 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,839 metric live watch some part of the fight live worldwide. 501 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,880 That's a tremendously strong audience. And so Dan, we'll pick 502 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,279 it up on that. And that does not even count 503 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,920 who watched it time displaced on demand later on. Obviously 504 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,799 a large audience. 505 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, I mean, I think that doesn't come 506 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,359 as a surprise, Jake Paulus John audiences that are sizable. 507 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,920 And if obviously, if you don't have to buy a 508 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,000 pay per view and if you just subscribe to Netflix, 509 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,279 like hundreds of millions of people around the world, do 510 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200 you can just get it by putting on your stream 511 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,400 like you would watch a movie or a TV program 512 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,240 or a documentary or whatever. It's a beautiful thing. And 513 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,799 just to put it in a little comparison, here the 514 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,000 announcement for Netflix about what this fight did. They announced 515 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,720 it did thirty three million viewers. That is for the 516 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,039 bout that is Bell to Bell from the bout that 517 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,319 is not including the undercard, that is not including the 518 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,119 talking heads and all the other stuff. That's the first 519 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720 bell rings and then the knockout happens. That's what they're 520 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,920 looking at. That's still a strong number regardless to put 521 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,440 a little texture to it. The co feature, which was 522 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,119 Alisha Bomgarner defending the Unified Women's one hundred and thirty 523 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,359 pound title against Laila bodo Win from Canada. They said 524 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,440 in their announcement that also put out the thirty three 525 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,559 million number for the main event, that her fight in 526 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:21,880 the co feature did fifteen million viewers globally. This is globally. 527 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,319 This is not just the United States, is every country 528 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200 that Netflix is in. So that's a very strong number. 529 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,559 Also for a women's fight where I mean nothing against 530 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:32,640 a Lisia Bombgarner, but those two women who were in 531 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,839 that fight are not exactly howse whole names. 532 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,839 Speaker 2: But here again, you're on the platform. He's raised it 533 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,680 with the platform, and this is fair to say, this 534 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,599 is not just a cheap shot. Alicia Bomgardner hasn't fought 535 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:48,160 a fight, hasn't fought in her career that's probably had 536 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,880 a million people watching it, maybe if she's fortunate a 537 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,200 million people, and so fifteen millions, that's a tremendous. 538 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: That's true enough. I mean, maybe her fight with them 539 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,759 making with Mayor because they've had a lot of hype 540 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,079 on ESPN Plus and ESPN might. 541 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,559 Speaker 1: Have done it had a million. 542 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: You're probably right about that. So I mean, but that 543 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,680 this shows you the platform and thea compared. 544 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Okay, again, Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson, and there was 545 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,599 all the build up obviously for that, and Netflix said 546 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:14,319 at the time, and I know some people dismissed the 547 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:19,000 number and the methodology. They said like a hundred and 548 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,680 four million something like that Live bilde Bell and the 549 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Serrano Katie Taylor right before it was like seventy something million. 550 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it was for that. So the 551 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,720 first of all, one thing about this particular event with 552 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Paul against Joshua is it was monitored by by Nielsen. 553 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,240 When they did the numbers for the Tyson fight, it 554 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,119 was not done by Nielsen, and so there were some 555 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,559 skepticism about the way that it was compiled. But it 556 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,440 would just take it on the face of what they 557 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,039 announced and what they announced for this one. The Tyson 558 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,839 fight was one hundred eight million viewers globally. But Tyson 559 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,680 is a different animal all the time of course, was 560 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680 that was such like Anthony Joshua within boxing, you know him, 561 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,920 he's a superstar, he's a massive draw, he's a former 562 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,480 two time heavyweight champion, but he is a pimple on 563 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:07,279 the ass of Mike Tyson compared to how well he's known. 564 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:08,000 And that's not a knock. 565 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's basically. 566 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: Every fighter in the history of boxing other than you know, 567 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,799 Sugar Ray Leonard and Muhammad Ali and people like that. 568 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,519 So that obviously did a huge number. And as you mentioned, 569 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,559 the women's fight that was the co feature that night 570 00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,799 did seventy four million between Toronto and Taylor. Was one 571 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,839 of the great if not the greatest women's boxing match 572 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,880 in the history of the of the women's side of 573 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,039 the sport. But I want to put it in first 574 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,000 of all before we get to some other perspective of 575 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,359 it a few a couple other numbers that they announced 576 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,480 related to this event of how sort of much it 577 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,599 caught fire is that Netflix obviously is all around the world. 578 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,039 It was a top ten program in ninety one countries 579 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,759 and was number one in forty five countries. They claimed 580 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,359 the United States, Number one in the United States, number 581 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,200 one in the UK, number one in Canada, Germany, Australia, Mexico, Argentina. 582 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,039 Those are a pretty big, you know, pretty big deals there. 583 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,640 They talked about the amount of impressions generated. I mean, 584 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,920 I'm not into that, but anything that starts with a 585 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,559 B as an million, they got to be impressive. 586 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: It was the number one trending topic Friday night worldwide 587 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,319 on Twitter X. 588 00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: That's verified through them. 589 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,039 Speaker 2: And they're talking about the they're talking about the hundreds 590 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:20,000 of millions of impressions on the knockout punch, the signature moment, 591 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,359 the knockout punch that everybody saw. 592 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: Not to mention by the way, yeah, they claimed and 593 00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:28,200 just within the United States of America another roughly six 594 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,480 hundred thousand people watching out of their homes, meaning like 595 00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:35,359 at bars and restaurants, casinos, you know, different places like that. 596 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,000 That brought the fight in as opposed to just in 597 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,559 your house or on your screen or wherever you happen 598 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,519 to have your phone or whatever. So it did big business, okay, 599 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,559 But now have to put in all perspective that was 600 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,039 thirty three million is obviously a big number. Now the 601 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:52,200 biggest fight in terms of like significance that Netflix has done. 602 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240 This was their fourth ever event on Netflix. They did 603 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,799 obviously Tyson Jake Paul. That was the first one that 604 00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,240 was really big. That was last year. They then did 605 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,759 they did the all women's card that had That was 606 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,920 this past July, which featured the Serrano and Taylor third fight. 607 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,400 Obviously that was much lower. That did like six million, 608 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,640 nothing to sneeze at, but obviously not anything loose to 609 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,599 the level of what we've seen with the other events. 610 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 But then the most important fight they did, another big 611 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:22,279 mega fight, but a real boxing match, not a freak 612 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:24,400 show sort of thing like a Jake Paul Mike Tyson 613 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,000 was the Terrence Crawford upset victory over at Canelo Alvarez. 614 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,079 It took place in September. That did thirty six point 615 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,720 six million viewers globally, they say for the bout, So 616 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,079 it's not that much more than what Jake did against 617 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,960 Anthony Joshua, even though in terms of significance to the 618 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,839 sport right they're not even comparable. One's a mega world 619 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,359 championship fight between and two future Hall of famers. 620 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: We should also say too, that this was thrown together 621 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480 sort of with about five weeks to build it up, 622 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,160 and it's a British fighter that hasn't been fighting on 623 00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,079 mainstream United States vision. Yes, he's been on the de 624 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Zonne app So, I mean, there's. 625 00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,759 Speaker 3: What happened in Britain. I mean in Britain obviously is hugely. 626 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would love to know, And they didn't 627 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,279 they didn't say, they didn't tell us. I would love 628 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:13,720 to know what was the on demand after the fact 629 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,880 viewership in London, in the UK, in England. 630 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,519 Speaker 1: I would love to know. Is that two million? It's 631 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,480 gotta be? Was it ten million? 632 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,559 Speaker 3: Was it also because for them it was in the 633 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:24,960 middle of the. 634 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: Night, that's right when they got up on Saturday. Did 635 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 it become twenty twenty five million? I would buy that 636 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,039 that watched it on demand because again, if you have 637 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,880 a Netflix subscription, you didn't have to pay twenty nine 638 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960 ninety five, thirty nine ninety five, forty nin ninety five. 639 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,000 You just clicked it on and watched. So I would 640 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,039 love to know what that is. They didn't get into 641 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,400 that cerimply it's a victory for them with that kind 642 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,599 of audience, that kind of attention. 643 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: One more time, they also paid, you know, huge amounts 644 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,759 of money for this. Sure it's going to be up 645 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:53,759 to their executives to decide is it worth to put 646 00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:56,599 out a nine figure payment to do a rough I mean, 647 00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,920 I don't know the exact figure, but by all accounts 648 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240 they were probably putting up around nine figures to do 649 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,880 the event. Is that worth it to bring in an 650 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,799 audience that's in the thirty millions around the globe and 651 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,200 certainly they got a ton of publicity. Also, they're going 652 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:13,160 to look and see tooth. I mean, anytime you're involved 653 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,599 in subscription based things, and I know this by the 654 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160 way somebody that runs my own subscription based thing with 655 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,440 my newsletter, you have to do two things. You have 656 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,920 to One, you have to give content that's going to 657 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,160 keep your existing subscribers, and number two, you've got to 658 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,599 do things to help generate new subscribers because inevitably you 659 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,880 want to build your product. And you also have to 660 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880 deal with the churn, which is a real thing. Trust me, 661 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,400 I know all about it and doing. 662 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,759 Speaker 2: My feting people that leave versus people you bring, right exactly, 663 00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:40,559 that's the term for it. 664 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: So I'm sure, Look, they got smart people over there. 665 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:46,960 They're going to run those numbers. But based on what 666 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:51,000 they've brought in over their first four times being involved 667 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,640 in boxing, it feels like they see some value in it. Now. 668 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,319 I don't expect them to suddenly be doing like in 669 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,200 a monthly show like we used to see on an 670 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,799 HBO or Showtime along those lines, or even like the 671 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,279 Friday night Fights or show Box that type of thing. 672 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,680 But if three times a year they want to move 673 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,440 a big event, I'm cool with that. 674 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: And again, the audience was obviously there. To those that 675 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,880 have been laughing or mocking it, there were tens of 676 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,000 millions that cared and were interested. All Right, a couple 677 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,359 of other notes and then we'll skidaddle. Terrence Crawford obviously 678 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,359 had announced his retirement. You kept saying, because you are 679 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,000 you pay attention to him vacating the titles. He immediately 680 00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,119 vacated the WBO title. He had already been stripped of 681 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,279 the WBC title. The WBO has wasted no time. Christmas week, 682 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Merry Christmas to Diego Pacheco and Hams of Shiraz right now, 683 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:44,480 fill me in on that. 684 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are the two leading available contenders within the 685 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,000 WBO's rankings at one hundred and sixty eight pounds. And 686 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,440 this feels like a good like a reasonable fight for 687 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160 the vacant title. Sometimes you see vacant title fights and 688 00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,640 you're like, one guy is worthy and the other guys right, 689 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,599 he kind of scratched her head. But Pacheco has been 690 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,359 doing his thing. He'd just come off a win last 691 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,240 week against Sajo, a tough fight. He's undefeated. You know, 692 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,720 he's a good looking young up and comer. Shiraz the 693 00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,799 one blemish was a draw in a middlewaite title fight. 694 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,400 A lot of people thought, you know, maybe could have 695 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,559 gone the other direction. But nonetheless, when he did move 696 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,759 up to super middleway, you looked spectacular when he absolutely 697 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:24,359 drilled Edgar Berlanga earlier this year. And so that's the 698 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,200 match that's gonna fill this title if they can get 699 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,920 the deal done. I am told behind the scenes that 700 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,519 they probably are going to get this deal done, and 701 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:32,599 there's a good chance that this fight will actually happen 702 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,119 good and see that, you know, probably sometime within the 703 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,759 first few months of two thousand and twenty six. So 704 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:41,720 that will fill the WBO title. And as we discussed, 705 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:43,720 when you see them vacating the titles, that's like a 706 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160 big deal. So he had, like you said, vacated the 707 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:51,400 WBO has now was tripped obviously the WBC, and even 708 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,559 though the WBO vacating was several days ago, it was 709 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160 just this week that the IBF announced that he had 710 00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,279 formally announced that he was giving up the. 711 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: If them what Tuesday, we're doing this going off of 712 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:06,000 the Christmas haute. He notified them Tuesday, the IBF, I'm vacating. 713 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,119 Speaker 3: He sent them the word, right, So now the IBF 714 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160 title is vacant, they'll go down their rankings, you know, 715 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,480 they'll see who's going to be willing and available to 716 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,599 go into that Canelo Albert is just high up in 717 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:17,279 the rankings, but he's injured and has been said that 718 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:20,160 he's not going to fight uh until at least the spring, 719 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920 until at least the fall. I guess, so I wouldn't 720 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,400 count on seeing the Canelo in that vacant title fight 721 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,559 to try to win back his old belt. At this point, 722 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,559 you know, he's going to take the biggest fights, whether 723 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:34,640 there's belts available or not. So we're down to the WBA, 724 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,359 and you know, I had talked to Terrence Crawford's people 725 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,279 and they're like, it's not like they're holding onto it. 726 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,279 They just haven't gotten around to like either you know, 727 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,759 answering the email from the organization or calling them up 728 00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,799 or emailing them and let them know. But the WBA 729 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,599 title will be vacant, I'm sure in the next little 730 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,039 bit also, so there you go. The the super middleweight 731 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:51,519 division is going to be once again wide open. 732 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: And how long if if he does come back, what 733 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,000 would Crawford come back for? 734 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,319 Speaker 1: How long does he stay away? 735 00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: All that's unknowns, but he certainly right now is following 736 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,799 through with the big thing, which is he's not going 737 00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,119 to keep the belts in any short term. 738 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: That's it. 739 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: So that's interesting on that point about Crawford off the 740 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:13,480 Canelo win and his announced retirement. All right, Matchroom has 741 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:17,679 announced the undercard for the upcoming January twenty fourth show 742 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,039 with Raymond Murratia speaking of the IBF fighting for the 743 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:26,599 IBF Lightweight Championship with Andy Kruz, the Cuban Olympian who's 744 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,119 now been on a fast track for a title shot. 745 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,679 What's on the undercard here? What got announced real quick? 746 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: Right? So the main event, of course is Murthia's first 747 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,639 defense against the Mandatory Cruise that was announced a few 748 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,760 weeks ago. Now they filled in the undercard, so among 749 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,599 the fights that are on there. You have the return 750 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,079 of Israel Madromov, who was the former WBA Junior Middleweight champion, 751 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:48,280 gave Terrence Crawford arguably the toughest fight of his career 752 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,519 when he lost the belt. That was the fight that 753 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,159 was in the summer of twenty twenty four in Los Angeles. 754 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,239 Really good performance although not a victory. And then he 755 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,719 obviously after that, had another close decision lost to Vergil 756 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,519 Artis in a WBC interim titled Doubt. So he's lost 757 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,519 two in a row, but he's still a really good fighter. 758 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,599 I don't hold that against him. He's coming back on 759 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:12,360 this card. He'll fight a fighter trying to remember the fighters. 760 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: They will fight David Salazar, right Louise. 761 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: David Salavar from the Dominican Republic, who was twenty wins 762 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,199 and one loss. He's won five fights in a row, 763 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,559 so that'll be the co feature. I can't say I 764 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,159 know a whole lot about David Louise David Salazar, but whatever, 765 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,800 we'll see if Bajramov can get back on track they 766 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,199 have This is a pretty solid fight. Actually, I'm kind 767 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:35,719 of interested a light heavyweight fight between Khalil Coe who 768 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,320 has been prospect ish, has a loss in the job, 769 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,000 but is a strong guy when he's in shape. That's 770 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,360 his biggest thing because sometimes he doesn't make the weight, 771 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,239 but when he's ready to go, he's a very top 772 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,119 tough guy to take care of anyway. He's going in 773 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,800 the rank to fight against the two time Superman awaight 774 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,360 title challenger, Jesse Hart. That was a fight that was 775 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,599 supposed to be back a couple months ago in October 776 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480 when Boots Ennis was in the hometown, Philadelphia fight against 777 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,440 Hussima Lima, but Khalil Co had a hand injury and 778 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,599 so the fight was postponed. Jesse is also from Philadelphy. 779 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,280 He was going to fight in his hometown. Now this 780 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,400 fight will just go to Vegas and know the reschedule. 781 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,159 And another fight they announced for the show among others, 782 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:16,159 is the junior middle eight amar Omario Jones, the United 783 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,079 States twenty twenty four bronze medal winner. He keeps doing 784 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:20,840 his thing. He's four to zero four knockouts as looks 785 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,119 spectacular and you know he's going to keep, you know, 786 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,480 the the learning curve going. He's taking on an undefeated 787 00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,320 fighter named Jerome Baxter and he's going to be in 788 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,960 a sixth rounder that watsed me on that show, and 789 00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,719 I've enjoyed watching his journey and I think that he's gonna, 790 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,440 you know, become a very good fighter down the road. 791 00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,119 Speaker 2: All Right, Again, that's January twenty fourth that the Zone 792 00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,880 Las Vegas card Maretaia Cruz headlines. All right, So February 793 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480 twenty first, on that day we got to fight a 794 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,239 title fight that's off. But then we also have an 795 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,639 addition to the Barrios Garcia title card that is that 796 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,039 night as well. All right, So what's the fight that's off? 797 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,159 Speaker 3: Go ahead quick, okay, So one thing at a time. 798 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,360 So Angelo Leo, who the IBF featherweight champion, was supposed 799 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,719 to fight a South African fighter, Laaratro de Lamini. That 800 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,599 was a fight that was scheduled to take place in Albertquerque, 801 00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:14,440 which is Angelo Leo's hometown. That fight has been postponed. 802 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,079 I talked to Gary Jonas, who was the owner of Probox, 803 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,679 who was the main promoter for Angelo Leo, and what 804 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,559 he said to me was that the fight is still 805 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,840 going to happen, We're just moving into a different location 806 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,400 on a different date. I think there were some maybe 807 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,079 some logistical issues or some scheduling problems. He didn't get 808 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,719 into the details. But the fight's still gonna happen. It's 809 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,320 just gonna be a little bit later. 810 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: There's not an injury at the moment, is what you're saying. 811 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 3: From what my understanding, there is not an injury, but 812 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,119 just it'll be good to see Leo back in because 813 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:41,880 he's you know, he's looked good in recent fights when 814 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,760 he won the title, uh, spectacularly, when he when he 815 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,559 knocked out you know, scored that big knockout to win 816 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,119 the belt. And then he went over to Japan and 817 00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,119 he looked good in a title defense over there. And 818 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,119 now he's supposed to have a hometown fight. Obviously this 819 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:55,679 one won't be in the hometown, but he's still get 820 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,559 to defend the title. And then on the same day, uh, 821 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,199 they're supposed to be the fight between Mario Barrios defending 822 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,760 his welterweight title against Ryan Garcia. Now that fight has 823 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,440 not been officially announced, but everybody involved that said it's done. 824 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:13,000 They probably just haven't announced it because the holidays. You know, 825 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,360 why would you waste your time announcing it in the 826 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,760 middle of Christmas in New Year so I'm pretty sure that, 827 00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:21,000 you know, maybe next week before New year'sn'll announced it, 828 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,079 but maybe they'll announce right after the New Year. But 829 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,239 the bottom line is that fight's gonna happen, and one 830 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,320 of the fights that's gonna probably be on that undercard 831 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,039 is supposed to be the overdue mandatory fight between the 832 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:35,599 WBA Junior Welterweight Champion, Gary Antoine Russell and Andy Heroca. Now, 833 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,760 if you remember when Jake Paul was supposed to fight 834 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,559 Tank Davis back in November, obviously Tank was with PBC. 835 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,840 One of the accommodations to BBC was to put that 836 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,519 fight on the cart and so when Tank got dropped 837 00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,880 from the fight because of his domestic violence problems and 838 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,079 they ended up rescheduling Anthony Joshua against Jake Paul and 839 00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,840 moving Jake State into December, that fight went away from 840 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,719 the show and so now they're looking for a spot 841 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,440 to put it because now PBC is back trying to 842 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,639 do it, and so they're going to reschedule that fight 843 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,199 for that date, and again not official, but that's what 844 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,199 is in the workst. 845 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: So Gary Anchowin Russell's not been that active, but he 846 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,039 is talented and that fight again for February twenty First, 847 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,880 you're reporting that we love that. Hey, that's a full 848 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,639 show off the Christmas holiday and headed to the weekend. 849 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960 Why don't we enjoy some early morning night of the 850 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,679 samurais the night of the Samurai in Japan and in 851 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,639 so the morning, but it's the morning of the Samurai 852 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,119 for us in the United States. And whenever the monster's back, 853 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,039 we pay attention. We're looking forward to seeing what he 854 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,119 can do. Knakatani in the co feature again. Hear more 855 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,199 from Nakatani on the pod feed in his own words, 856 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,119 love that in the pod just before this one, Big Dan, 857 00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,199 have a great weekend. I am headed to Miami this weekend. 858 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,880 Can my Tampa Bay Buccaneers blinging to life for a 859 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,599 playoff spot? 860 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: Get a win and. 861 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,159 Speaker 3: Sabe Before you head to the stadium, you can go 862 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,920 to the to the kiss, see a center where they 863 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,119 had the jay right and see if you look for 864 00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:04,400 some of Jake's missing teeth. 865 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: But perhaps that's a good line, as we conclude after 866 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,519 the broken jaw, I might have to look around. You 867 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:14,239 bring up a great point there in South Florida, So 868 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,760 I will be there this weekend. I missed it by 869 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,199 a couple of weeks of being there for Paul and 870 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920 actually probably about eight or nine days for Paul and 871 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,039 Anthony Joshua. But for now we are good. I'll come 872 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,119 back off the weekend with you on Sunday night. You'll 873 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,760 know what kind of mood I'm in. If my Buccaneers 874 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,360 can get the win, we'll recap this and we'll look 875 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,039 ahead at the end of the year for twenty twenty five. 876 00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:34,519 Speaker 1: Big Dan, have a great weekend. 877 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,559 Speaker 2: Let's see what happens in these fights in Saudi Arabia 878 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719 with the Monster with Nakatani and then also the Taraji 879 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,079 Willibaldo Garcia fight. Check all those out through his own 880 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,199 pay per view. Big Dan, have a great weekend. Thank you, 881 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,639 my friend. 882 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,119 Speaker 3: All right, Jane, Merry Christmas to you with all of 883 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:49,800 them there we. 884 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: Go to all the audience. 885 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 2: I hope the Christmas holiday was good and everything was great. 886 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: Should I say it? 887 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,079 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to all? Into all a good night. I 888 00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,480 think we're good. Thursday night into Friday. Find Dan on 889 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,199 the Substance by the way, his fight Freak Tonight, Substack 890 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,840 and newsletter. Find this pod on Applespreaker, Spotify. It is 891 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480 The Big Fight Weekend Preview podcast, ye