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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. This week, we are diving into the

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history of Duran Duran Yep.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go from beginning of the band all

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the way through the Rio album, and maybe a few

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stories afterwards. We're not talking about the album today. Rio.

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We're going to talk about that next time. Jason, if

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you need to borrow my CD, you can use it, Okay,

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try not to bruise it by time, don't lose it.

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I'm sorry, it's just a reflex.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's dive into the history of one of

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the most influential bands of early MTV. They shaped the

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eighties really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, First, I have to issue a formal apology. In

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the past, I refer to them basically as pretty. You

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didn't know how to play their instruments, and that was

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a gross inaccuracy. They are pretty, don't get me wrong, right,

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but these guys are strong musicians, and after going through

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these albums and looking at the music on this these

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guys knew what they were doing. I mean, they weren't

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the studio musicians that Toto were, but these guys knew

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how to make some amazing and very very unique music.

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Speaker 2: They really did grow quickly as musicians. But when they

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started Nick and John decided they were going to make

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a band, neither one of them could play, right. I mean,

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but that's that's not uncommon. Right ambition before right knowledge.

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Speaker 3: They had the whole big picture idea. It was like

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we talked about with neph Leppard, Right, Joe Elliott had

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the name of the band before.

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Speaker 2: He had the band, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: So you got to think about what was going on

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at the time that these guys are deciding to become musicians. Right,

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We've got the seventies music scene. So you've got punk,

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you've got glam, you've got funk, you've got disco, and

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you've got the birth of this new kind of synthesizer

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stylele of music, all of which are impacting these guys'

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musical tastes for sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you've got a cable channel that's

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about to come into fruition called MTV.

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Speaker 3: Right, So, these guys were a part of what we

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called the Second British Invasion. We talked about it when

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we talked about def Leppard. We talked about it with

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the police and they were considered what they called the

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new Romantic style, and the new Romantic just meant they

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were grabbing the glam rock kind of pizazz and then

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adding it to this kind of eighteenth and nineteenth century style.

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So you think about adamant and the frillly callers and

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the right painted face and earrings and leather pants, just

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this kind of weird mixture of stuff, which is what

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they had. By the time the eighties roll around and

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we get these guys here in the United States, they've

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left all that behind and they've got their own fantastic style,

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which I think had to influence the costumes in Miami

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Vice for sure.

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Speaker 2: For sure, crocketed tubs are all over the Rio video.

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Speaker 3: Now we're comparing these guys to Toto. We're comparing the

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Rio album to the four album. We talked about how

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Africa is kind of like this outlier as far as

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music goes. That song has been downloaded one point one

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billion times, right yep. And what's interesting is right now

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we just had our Toto episodes come out, and we've

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got people going, oh, I just saw those guys in

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concert with Journey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right. You can also buy tickets right now. To go

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see a Duran Duran concert. They had their latest album

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come out in October of last year.

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Speaker 2: I know our friend Melissa Mingles, she's got tickets already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The other interesting thing is that these guys are

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on the forefront of the fan vote for the Rock

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and Roll Hall of Fame. So a component of the

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees is a group

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of folks are submitted to fans and the fans vote,

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And it was Eminem and the lead for a long time,

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but then Duran Durant's slowly built up some momentum past Eminem.

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As of last month and this month they're over one

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hundred thousand votes ahead of them. So if you're tracking

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about a band from the eighties, I mean, I love

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that they're still doing music, but their chart topping hits

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happened in the eighties and the nineties. That was twenty

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five years ago. Yeah, and they now have over the

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nearly seven hundred thousand votes for the Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: So if you're a Duran Duran fan and you're listening

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to this podcast, go vote for them for the Rock

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and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Time to rock the vote all right, so shall we

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get into the history.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into history. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Our story begins back in the sixties. It begins with

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a club called the rum Runner. So the rum Runner

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was this club that used to be a casino. It

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was on Broad Street in Birmingham. But at the rum

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Runner all kinds of actors and musicians would just go

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to hang out. You had Black Sabbath hanging out there.

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You had Roy Wood from Elo and the two son

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of the owner decide, Hey, you know, we're about to

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take this place over. We're going to go on a

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trip over to New York City and we're going to

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go to Studio fifty four. They come back from seeing

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Studio fifty four. They're like, we're going to take our

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club and we're going to renovate it, and we're going

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to do it in the style of Studio fifty four.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: And so they have this kind of disco tech idea

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and they're starting to bring new bands in. Well, as

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it happens, these rather good looking guys come in with

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a demo tape and the two brothers, Paul and Michael Barrow, say, okay,

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let me see what you got. They listen to it.

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And they say, we want you to be a part

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of our club, not only that, we want to manage you.

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of managing this band that becomes the house band, and

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they are basically the other two members of the band

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the album seven and the Ragged Higher. The reason that

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it's seven and nine five is the other two are

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Paul and Michael Barrow, the owners of the Runner, right, and.

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Speaker 2: The Ragged Tiger is success. Yeah, seven and the Ragged

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Tiger Right.

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Speaker 3: So these guys that call themselves Duran Duran, Where did

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they come from?

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Speaker 4: They come from Hollywood, Well, Hollywood, Hollywood, England, Yeah, yeah, Birmingham,

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Albert No, yes, So Nick and Nigel were good buddies

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back in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Nigel Nigel.

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Speaker 3: I didn't grow up with anyone named Nigel me either.

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Speaker 3: A very British name it is.

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Speaker 2: And so Nigel actually changed his name back to his

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middle name, John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Nick Rhodes born in sixty two. His original

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name was Nicholas James Bates. The last name like Bates.

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I can see how you might get teased, Yaster Bates. Yes,

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in England. Yes, his parents owned a toy shop. I

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thought that was kind of cool. Okay, he became childhood

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friends with John Taylor. They formed a group, like you said,

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even really before they were able to play their instruments,

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called RAF or RAF.

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Speaker 2: Stands for Rural Air Force. Another one of the bands

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that Nick and John participated in was this band called

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Shock Treatment. And so Shock Treatment actually played for John's

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senior class. Okay, so you're up there in front of

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your classmates, and he said, he here's what I learned

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about shock Treatment. Number one, shock Treatment was awful. Number

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two I couldn't wait to do it again.

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Speaker 3: So Nigel John Taylor had been born in sixty He

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was a couple of years older than Nick, and he

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had these thick glasses and he was this goofy kid

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who was into playing war like James Bond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they both loved James Bond.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was also into roxy music, uh huh.

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and roll stars. And he enjoyed the funkiness of Sheikh's

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bass player Bernard Edwards. You know, Chic was a Nile

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Rogers venture. Yes, it was, Well, that would be interesting

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for them later on because he.

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Speaker 2: Goes on to play on notorious and produce them, and

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he's a big part of Duran Durant.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he always calls them Durant. He just says it.

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I love it when he does that.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So John and Nick get together with this guy named

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Stephen Duffy and they decide to form a band. Okay,

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Steven's going to be doing the lead singing. John is

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going to be playing guitar, and then Nick is playing

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the keyboards, right yep. And then they get this guy

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named Simon Coley to play the bass. But something that

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important that we've got to talk about is the name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so. In addition to the Rum Runner in Birmingham,

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there were a few different clubs. Right. One of the

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clubs that these guys played at was called Barbarillas. Yeah,

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named after a movie that starred Jane Fonda.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and in the movie there's a character's name is

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durand durand good annunciation. Make sure I get the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they durand Durand, which I'm sure as you're

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listening to it watching it on the telly, if you will,

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this sounds like Duran Durant. And so John Taylor is

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watching Barbarella because you know, why not watch a movie

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about they got the club named after it, and he's like,

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Duran Durant. Mom had a good name for band. Sounds

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weird to me. Okay, good name for band.

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Speaker 2: Then that's exactly right. Yeah, that's what happened. Barbarella produces

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the name Duran Durant.

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Speaker 3: So John and Nick are playing with Steven and Simon

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and then something happens in there. They leave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the singer and the other guitar player, the

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other guy you don't recognize. They ghost him like they

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just never show back up.

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Speaker 3: Like practice tomorrow. Okay, where are the guys? I don't know?

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Speaker 2: I never saw him again, just vanished. How'd you like

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to be the guy that was in Duran Durant and

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then decided that we're going into the grocery store as matter.

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Speaker 3: Well, To be fair, Steven Duffy has gone on to

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some success in the music industry. He is not It

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hasn't been Duran Durant's success, but he has been a

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successful musician. He has played with Robbie Williams, He's played

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with the guy from Bar Naked Ladies. These produced albums.

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He's he is not a failure as a musician, but

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he's not Duran, Duran's success.

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Speaker 2: He's not Simon lebaughn No, right, Simon Lebon.

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Speaker 3: So John and Nick are in this situation where they're

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down to just them again, and so they're like, okay,

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well we need to try to find a singer. And

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they find this guy named Andy Wickett. Now there's a

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case to be made that Andy Wickett is responsible for

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a large part of the music of Girls on Film

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and of Rio. And this is this is backed up

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by Roger. I mean, this isn't just you know, like

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I was on that. No, Like literally, Roger Taylor is like, yeah,

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that was a large and a large part him. And

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so they've got and they've got a bass player, a

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bass player, and they've got a keyboardist. They meet this

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guy at a party who is a drummer.

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Speaker 2: Roger Taylor, you go. So they bring him in and

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they like the rock aspect, the edge that he brings

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to their band, and so they wanted to have synths.

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Nick was very Nick's a strong personality, absolutely, and he's

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a great song builder. Yep, they want a rock and

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they won a synth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So Roger Taylor also born in nineteen sixty.

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He had been drumming since he was about twelve years old,

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self taught, would just play along with the records. His

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dream was to be a goalie for Aston Villa Soccer.

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Speaker 2: And he's a big soccer guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He and his dad went to every single game

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but he did get to play there as a drummer

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when they played their charity Coneen eighty three Very good.

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and Tony Thompson of Chic. Yeah, so we got Roxy

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music and Chic as a commonality. For John Taylor and

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Roger Taylor, they're just like, oh both Taylor's okay, Well,

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people are gonna think we're brothers, but whatever else.

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you got niicros, you've got John Taylor and you've got

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Andy Wickett. When they add Roger Taylor, they're like, oh,

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you're great man, Come on board. What's your last name?

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He's like Taylor, all right, all right, fine, no big deal.

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Speaker 3: I think they said they had been playing together for

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like a few weeks before they were finally like, what's

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your last name?

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Speaker 2: Well that becomes even funnier here.

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Speaker 3: In just a second, right. So Roger Taylor, before he

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had joined Duran Duran was a member. He was a

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member of a band that he had formed called the

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scent Organs.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: They ended up being regional finalists for the Melody Maker

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Young Band of the Year, So this isn't a no slacker.

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Speaker 2: They make a demo tape four songs Girls on film

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Enigmatic Swimmers see meat Me, which we talked about kind

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of is the building blocks for Rio and then breaking away.

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They shot that demo to companies around London. Yep, they

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get a little interests, not much, but they run into

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the Burrows and the Burrows are like, yeah, we are interested.

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We want to manage a band. We've got this club.

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Why don't you come be the house band? So that's success.

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I mean they're like, hey, you're good enough to become

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the house band. And as soon as they get in there,

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Andy Wickt quits. So the rum Runner is no insignificant thing.

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I mean, being the house band there, the rum Runner

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is a big deal, right, they had rehearsal spaces that

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other bands would play at Dexi, and the Midnight Runners

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played there. Ub forty play there. If you've seen the

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video for Mirror in the Bathroom by the Beat, that's

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the rum Runner, okay, And so it's kind of a

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big deal that they're the house band there.

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Speaker 3: But that's not the only job that they have, right,

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They all work there in other capacities. Roger was a

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glass collector, John was a bouncer. Nick was the DJ,

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and each night the rum Runner had different styles of

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music that would play, and so they kind of were

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exposed to all of these different styles. Nick is obviously

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being the DJ, is getting all kinds of musical input,

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and they're actually moving him from different from night to

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night so that he's getting different musical styles that way

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as well. And so they're like, Okay, we need a guitarist.

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Let's put an ad out in the Melody Maker.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so Andy Taylor had been playing cover bands for

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American soldiers, okay, so he had learned to kind of

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play for a crowd and stuff like this. He responded

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to the ad. He called the secretary for the rum

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Runner and he's like, hey, my name's Andy. I'm interested

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in auditioning as the guitarist. And she said, okay, come

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on down British accent, and he said, what's the name

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of the So he says, what's the name of the band?

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And she goes Dren Dren and he's like, I'm sorry,

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what was that. She's like jurnne Jurynne. He said, okay.

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He had no idea what she was saying, so he

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didn't know until he showed up. He's like, okay, Duran, Durant, Okay,

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I'm with it now.

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Speaker 3: So Andy'd been playing guitar since he was sixteen. One

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of the guys that taught him how to play guitar

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is a guy named Dave Black who was in the

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Spiders from Mars, which was the backing band for David Powie.

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Speaker 2: And the Insane It's Crazy Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave him tutoring and get the guitar. And

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like you said, he had toured England and Europe with

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several bands before he answered this ad and as he said,

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and I took that faithful train ride down to Birmingham

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in nineteen eighty. So April of nineteen eighty Andy joins

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the band Andy starts working at the drum Runner as

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a cook and like a fix it man, like fixing

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the interior stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's a rock and roll guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And here's what he said. He says, I'm a rock fan,

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but the girls hung out at the disco. I recommend

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a large portion of both.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a very blue collar. They called him

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the balls of the band. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then they're like, okay, we need to have a singer.

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And there's this waitress at the room Runner named Fiona

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camp yep, and she's like, you need to be my

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ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like, my ex boyfriend is an actor and

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a poet. I think he'd be good as your singer.

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And they're like, okay, I mean, you know, if you

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is a detractive girl, freem in. As soon as he

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walked in the door, they're like, please, God, let this

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guy be able to sing. Simon's a good looking dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got pink lepper print pat that's exactly right.

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So Simon Labon. He was older than these guys by

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a couple of years. He's born in fifty eight, born

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on his father's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had been acting and singing since he was

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a little kid. His mom got him into TV commercials,

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advertisements for washing products and such, and he had been

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a part of the boys choir and so he understood

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harmonies and melodies. He had even been a part of

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a punk band for a little while called Dog Days.

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That one I did not all right, But just before

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he makes this grand entrance into the rum Runner in

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his pink leopard print skin tight pants. Yes, he had

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gone down to Israel to work as a tree surgeon

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in a kibbutz in the negive desert. Okay, I mean what, Yeah,

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it's just bizarre. And so even while he was down there,

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he had written in this book that he had of

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poetry and songs, some of which the became songs in

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the album we're going to talk about in our next episode.

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Speaker 2: One of those songs became the Chauffeur. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he comes back from the negive Desert doing whatever

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awesome work that he was doing down there, and he's like, ah,

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I'm so thankful there's no more sand. Let's go have

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a beer. And he goes to the club.

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Speaker 2: So when he meets them, they know he's the guy

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Suzy walk in. They're like this guy's a star. He's

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great looking, he carries himself, well, he's got style. Fianna

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Kimp was absolutely right, this is our guy. And they

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say what's your name, and he goes, my name is Simon,

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and they go, let me guess Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot so. So when they had gotten their

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fourth member, it was their third.

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Speaker 2: Tailor, Andy Taylor. Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And in the eighties I was one hundred percent sure

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that these guys were brothers. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's confusing, right, yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: I mean they all have a cinimilar look, their last

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name is Taylor. Obviously they're they're related, of course, not

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not one of them related.

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Speaker 2: Once Simon was on board, John wrote in his diary

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the star has arrived.

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Speaker 3: So they get together, they start playing music. Simon hasn't

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done a thing, but he hears the first song that

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they play and he goes, oh, hold on, I think

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I've got something that'll go with that. And he pulls

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out this book that we were talking about, flips to

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a pay and starts singing his own lyrics in his

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own melody to the music that they're doing. And they're like,

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it is time we have we have arrived. If you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. You know they talked about how early on,

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you know, Nigel, John and Nick they had this massive ambition, right,

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and Simon was actually impressed by their ambition. He was

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told by John and Nick that Deran Duran would play

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London's Hammersmith Odin by nineteen eighty two, Wembley Arena by

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nineteen eighty three, and Madison Square Garden by nineteen eighty four.

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Guess what they met those deadlines?

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Speaker 1: They said, Zaks, Wow, nice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you understand the quickness? I mean we

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talk about overnight successes here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Andy Taylor joined the band in April of nineteen eighty.

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Simon Labond joined the band in May of nineteen eighty

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and by nineteen eighty one they're recording their first album

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I know, and touring the United States.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Before even Andy and Simon had joined the band, they

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had sent out those demo tapes that we were talking about, right,

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And they're so good and so good looking that there's

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a bidding war that starts between EMI and Phonogram, and

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ultimately they're like, well the Beatles were with EMI, they

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need to go with them.

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Speaker 2: That's great. So their first official gig with the classic

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lineup was July sixteenth, nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: In addition to putting together an album, they are forming

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a corporation, right, They have a brand identity that they

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want and that includes style. They did something that almost

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no other bands were doing at this time. The fashion

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industry in the rock and roll industry were enemies.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: You had the sex pistols out there, given you the fea.

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You had guys who were poking holes in their face

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just to look ugly, right, right, But these guys went

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the entire opposite direction, and they said, we want to stylist.

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So they get Harry Haynes their stylist, and they get

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fashion designers con and Bowl and Anthony Price to design

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their clothes, which defines their look for the beginning part

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of the eighties. Wow.

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Speaker 2: On March fifth of nineteen eighty one, they were invited

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to play on Top of the Pops and they performed

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Planet Earth.

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Speaker 3: So Planet Earth is off their debut album, Deurandering.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interesting thing about Planet Earth. So Planet

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Earth is a moderate success, but it fails to chart

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in the top forty in America, right, and they really

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want to conquer America, and so they go to the

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record company and there's a fight over which single is

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going to be released next. They all believe that Girls

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on Film is the strongest song on the album. The

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record company is like, no, We're going to release Careless Memories.

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And Nick is like no, like Nick is ready to

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die on the Hill. No, Girls on Film, Girls on Film,

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and the record companies they nope, Careless Memories. So they

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release Careless Memories. And that one sputtered and they had

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kind of lost that momentum. So the next the third

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single was like do or Die, right, and that's when

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they dropped Girls on Film July of nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 3: They had already appreciated the power of the music video,

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and this was before MTV. Right MTV came out in

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August of eighty one, they knew, hey, we need start

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making videos. They had a video for Planet Earth that

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was interesting.

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Speaker 2: That they played on at discos and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they said, okay, for Girls on Film, we

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want to get as rough and dirty and raunchyet as

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we can. And so they hired a couple of guys

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who were also musicians to direct this video for Girls

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on Films. The guys were called Godley and Creede, Elen

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and Green Yeah, and they put together a film that

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was not just rated R, it was probably rated NC seventeen.

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It had strippers making suggestive movements on holes covered with cream.

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There was ice on certain areas of the body. And

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it was the first video to be banned by MTV

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and by the BBC. How about that talk about making

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a name for yourself that it instantly made the song

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a mega hit.

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Speaker 2: It's legendary. I mean they had topless mud wrestlers right right,

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and it made the song a hit. This song was

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played late at night on like Cinemax and stuff like

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like you couldn't get this on regular TV. It was

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on like cable.

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Speaker 3: You had to watch skin Amax to see a Duran

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Duran Vivie.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Wow? So the song becomes a huge hit,

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reaches number five in the UK. Right. They open their

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tour June twenty ninth, and there's nothing but screaming girls,

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like screaming so loud that they can't hear themselves play.

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It's like the Beatles. It's like the Beatles. In fact,

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they're called the Fab.

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Speaker 3: Five Yeah, as a throwback to the Fab four, which

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is what they call the Beatles, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, list of this. One girl brought scissors in order

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to steal a lock of hair from Simon's head, and

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when she lunged, she almost hit him in the eye.

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No word on whether she actually got a lot of

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00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,160
care or not. So on their tour of the US,

472
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:35,240
they're in New York for the first time. Like you said,

473
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,279
they're really interested in conquering America. So where do they

474
00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:42,079
go when they arrive in New York? First Studio fifty four, right,

475
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,079
So they showed up, They soaked up the night live.

476
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,440
Nick mentioned that he really wanted to meet Andy Warhol.

477
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: Oh right, Okay.

478
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,079
Speaker 2: They're like, well, we Andy comes in here all the time.

479
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000
We'll let him know. Put a pin in that. Okay.

480
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,440
They move on to the Midwest, where John says they

481
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960
scored their very first Playboy Bunnies in Chicago.

482
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,559
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's.

483
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,319
Speaker 2: Not entirely unsuccessful tour.

484
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Right.

485
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: They go to La they play the Roxy. Okay, so

486
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,480
you know they're doing these legendary places venues. Yes, they

487
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,000
go back through New York, he.

488
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,039
Speaker 3: Said, doing these legendary places.

489
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,799
Speaker 2: They're playing these legendary venues like you said. They go

490
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,079
back to New York and this is where they meet

491
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,200
Andy Warhol for the first time. And guess what. Andy

492
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,160
Warhol decides that he is in love with Nick Rhodes.

493
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: Well, I can see that. So Andy was very very

494
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,759
gay and Nick likes to wear makeup a lot.

495
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,759
Speaker 2: Nick straight, but he does like the feminine look.

496
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: He has the glam thing and it has I mean,

497
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,599
he he was consistent. He didn't give that thing up.

498
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,680
I don't know that he still doesn't wear makeup, probably.

499
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, that's right. In fact, when Nick got married, yeah,

500
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,160
like two years later, the tabloids made the comment that

501
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,160
the groom more and more makeup than the bride.

502
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 3: Did you know he married an heiress? Like she was like,

503
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,559
it's some iow girl whose family had this department store

504
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,839
called Yonkers or something. Yes, and there was the I mean,

505
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920
there's this huge chain and she was the heir to

506
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,759
the fortune. So he could have his yacht parties where

507
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:15,839
the wows docked and he just got to drink Coctor.

508
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: So after they tour the US, they go back to

509
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,400
the UK, back to their parents' houses.

510
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: Right it Like my dad was telling me I couldn't

511
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:28,079
watch what I want to do on TV.

512
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 2: This is when they work on and produce the song

513
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,519
My Own Way really so as a single as a

514
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,200
bridge right between the first album in Rio.

515
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,559
Speaker 3: Girls in Film is hot and they want to maintain

516
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:43,240
the momentum.

517
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

518
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: So it's eighty one. They're back from their US tour.

519
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359
There's riots going on in their home country, civil unrest.

520
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,359
Their parents won't let them watch what they want to

521
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,359
on TV. They're like, ah, I guess we need to

522
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,000
write an album.

523
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,759
Speaker 2: The record company wants hits, so they moved to the

524
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:02,160
south of France to finished their second album. That album

525
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:17,160
is Rio. Rio produces some of the biggest hits for

526
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,480
the MTV generation. Absolutely, you've got Rio, You've got Hungry

527
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:24,279
like the Wolf, You've got Save a Prayer, You've got

528
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,799
the Chauffeur, My Own Way. You have all these great,

529
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,440
great songs and the videos that come with them. Follow

530
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,880
us next week as we go track by track.

531
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:41,599
Speaker 3: Through Rio, where we will have our special guests as

532
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,519
to mingle with us.

533
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: Listen Mingle Mega Duran Duran Finn.

534
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: Russell mulcahey is from Australia.

535
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: YEP.

536
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: Australia is where Duran Duran had their first number one hit.

537
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: The planet Earth Okay.

538
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:59,599
Speaker 3: They were wildly, wildly successful in Australia. That was where

539
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,839
the ninety nine percent women screaming their heads off part

540
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,519
began for them. They realized that things were happening once

541
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,599
they hit down Under, right. And so they've got this

542
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,400
guy that's made this movie called Razorback, which is interesting

543
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920
and weird. Yes, who's just hungry to do more movies

544
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,559
and not getting any opportunities, and so they're like, how

545
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,920
about you come make some music videos. He's like, so, what, well,

546
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,519
short movies with our songs in them. Okay, if you've

547
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:31,960
got money, I'll come do it. And what we end

548
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:37,519
up with is what five different videos by mulcahe which

549
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
helped define what videos are. I mean, there were no

550
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,480
rules at the time. This is literally as MTV is

551
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,119
being born, and we've got this.

552
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. They spent eight days in Sri Lanka, got three

553
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:53,599
videos out of it, and then after that they had

554
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,839
a trip to Antigua. Yep, I'd like to say it

555
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,279
the British Wave, although I've said it Antigua in my

556
00:28:58,319 --> 00:28:58,720
whole life.

557
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:02,119
Speaker 3: Antigua, and that's where they film the Rio video. So

558
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,519
they're having success in the UK. They're having massive success

559
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:10,839
in Australia. Rio comes out and it fizzles in the US.

560
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit discosynthpop too much for the

561
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:16,160
American audience.

562
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: So EMI had promoted Duran Duran in the UK as

563
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,799
this new romantic band, but the new romantic movement wasn't

564
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,480
a thing in the US, and so the US audiences

565
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:28,759
didn't know what to do with it. They didn't know

566
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:31,960
where they were going to sell them. And so Capitol

567
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,519
Records is the subsidiary of EMI that's in the US,

568
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,200
and so they say, okay, let's try to remix some

569
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:44,079
of these songs in a more dance friendly kind of way.

570
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,440
And so they get their guy, David Kershenbaum to remix

571
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,480
few songs ep worth of songs, Hungry like the Wolf, Rio,

572
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Planet Earth, and Girls on Film, all like the Night

573
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:02,839
version the dance mixed style. Once that came out, these

574
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,240
dance clubs started to play it. Once the dance club

575
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,279
started to play it, then Capitol record said, why don't

576
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:13,079
we remix the entire album, and the Darien Duran was like,

577
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,839
that's great, We'll go for that. And so David Kirshbaum

578
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,599
remixed the entire Rio album in a US Style remix,

579
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,559
and at that point it started to climb the charts.

580
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
These guys were influenced by glam rock and punk and disco,

581
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,680
which I mean, those three things are groups that the

582
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,200
people hate each other in, right, sure, but these guys

583
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,960
are willing to say I like them all right.

584
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 2: John Taylor was quoted as saying when the juke box

585
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:49,319
would play songs, He's like, hey, Anarchy in the UK.

586
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,640
I love this song sex Pistols. And then the next

587
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880
song was good Times by Chic. He's like, this song's awesome.

588
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 5: Too, Yeah, and it's it's kind of me I kind

589
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,119
of identify with that, sure, And I think, just to

590
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,559
kind of go off topic here a little bit, that's

591
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,599
kind of the way the world is now.

592
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,519
Speaker 3: People our age still. You've got your heavy metal adherence,

593
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,720
you've got your you know, new wave adherence and pop adherence.

594
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,039
But for our kids, with streaming music, they can literally

595
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,440
it's like the jew box in their pocket where they

596
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880
can hear sex Pistols, followed by Casey in the Sunshine Band,

597
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,519
followed by Metallica, and can love all of it or

598
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,319
not be running a foul of some click or something,

599
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,279
you know, So it's interesting that we're in this stage

600
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:35,039
where people are exposed to all of these different kinds

601
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:37,599
of music and all new music sounds the same. Yeah,

602
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
it's kind of disappointing. Right, It's okay, there's a revolution coming,

603
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:41,240
We're going to see it.

604
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: Let's go see it happen. We're waiting on it.

605
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: Come on, young musicians out there, start doing the club

606
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,119
scene again, start doing the dance clubs. I don't care

607
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680
how the revolution happened, but bring us goodness.

608
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,799
Speaker 2: So Rio takes off. With the marriage of MTV Duran

609
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,519
durand these catchy songs, it turns them into superstars. Once

610
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,599
Rio is done, which we'll talk about in detail next week.

611
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440
So we're going to kind of dodge RIO right now.

612
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Come back next week. As we go track by track

613
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,359
through that one, pressure's on to come up with new

614
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,440
stuff because they are scorching hot and so in between,

615
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,160
as they did with My Own Way, they have a

616
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,039
song that bridges the two albums. That song is called

617
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:34,799
is There Something I Should Know?

618
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

619
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Mega hit it, Oh, huge hit. Right. So in March

620
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:41,640
of nineteen eighty three, they guessed VJ on MTV. They

621
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,400
debut this no song. They are the darlings of MTV absolutely,

622
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,279
so I thought this was interesting. Their advisors at that

623
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,839
time told them, hey, listen, rock and roll is pretty fickle.

624
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,599
You guys might want to stabilize your finances for the future.

625
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Because the page turns quick, and they're like, what are

626
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,039
you talking about, dude. We're the best, We're the hottest thing,

627
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,519
and so I'm gonna.

628
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,039
Speaker 3: Have to let you go. My coke dealers here.

629
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Does bag two playmates. So then they go back to

630
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,559
the studio to work on their third album. That third

631
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,240
album is a little bit harder than the first two.

632
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Simon talks about how they had a build up of songs,

633
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,279
so they got to start from scratch a right. So

634
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:23,240
Seven and the Ragged Tiger comes out. That produces the Reflex,

635
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,119
New Moon on Monday, and Union of the Snake.

636
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: So here's something interesting that happens. Nick Rhodes also becomes

637
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640
a producer at this time, and he discovers this band

638
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:38,920
called Kicha Goo Go. Yeah, he discovers Kwija Goog and

639
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,640
he's like, I want to produce a song of yours.

640
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:57,079
So he co produces a song called Too Shy, which

641
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,160
hits number one in the UK before Duran Durant ever

642
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,960
has a number.

643
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,319
Speaker 2: One da Wow. Well that's interesting because Nick is having

644
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,759
success as a producer. So John's a very competitive guy.

645
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,639
We talked about this, and so he sets out to

646
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,239
produce somebody. So who does he want to produce? His girlfriend,

647
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,920
baby Buele, baby Buell and yeah, good looking lady. Not

648
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,679
so much in the vocals.

649
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,519
Speaker 3: Department, right, we'll talk about that one next episode.

650
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,039
Speaker 2: That's right. At this point, though, the cocaine use and

651
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,119
drinking and drugs start.

652
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: To escalate, right, and they're starting to few.

653
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, So Andy is engaged, Nick is engaged.

654
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,239
Nobody likes Nick's fiance, right, and so Nick brings her

655
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,920
on the tour. They start referring to her as Yoko Ono,

656
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,679
as everyone does, and problems start to set in. Egos

657
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,039
are big, money is huge, Drugs are everywhere, drinking is everywhere,

658
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,119
and they start to dislike each other. They also start

659
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,119
to take a dislike to the Burroughs. Yeah, they noticed

660
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,760
that the car that John had was really, really a

661
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,599
cool Ferrari and theirs was even nicer, which seems kind

662
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:11,400
of petty. Yeah, but they started to think, why are

663
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,400
these guys so rich? Yeah, we're the ones doing all

664
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,480
the work making the money.

665
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: The Burrows and Simon Lebond continued their friendship.

666
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,079
Speaker 2: They loved to yacht together.

667
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's the thing. They went on a big

668
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,440
yacht race. Like, what are you going to do if

669
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,840
you're ultra wealthy and one of the biggest stars in

670
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,559
the world, You're going to go on the across the

671
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,760
world boat race? Right, And so they're in third place

672
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,719
and all of a sudden, the keel falls off, the

673
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,760
boat turns upside down. Yes, there's a guy trapped down there,

674
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,000
like in the sales and the chains and stuff, and

675
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:49,079
Simon Labon is jumping in with a couple of other

676
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,039
guys and tearing the sails away to try to save

677
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,199
this guy's life. Yes, it's a tense and so obviously

678
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,880
done with sailing after that, right, wrong? Yeah, Okay, let's

679
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,719
do this again. And they do it again, and they

680
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,639
still get their place, but at least they finished this

681
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,320
time right third place? What do you do?

682
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: So in June of nineteen eighty three, is there something

683
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,280
I should know? HiT's number five on the Hot one hundred.

684
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,519
There's still scorching hot. Listen to this. John escorts his

685
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:18,679
girlfriend now no longer baby buble. Okay, Janine Andrews, who's

686
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719
a Bond girl. Okay, she has a small part in

687
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,079
the movie Octopussy.

688
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: Okay. And by the way, by the way, listener Shirley

689
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
fan out there, if you haven't heard it yet, please

690
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
go back and check out our Battle of the Bonds

691
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:36,159
episodes where we compare Connery and Moore and Octopussy and

692
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:37,599
Never Say Never Again.

693
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,079
Speaker 2: Yes, love that episode.

694
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: There were a lot of girl parts in Octopussy. That

695
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:42,639
was a lot of girls in it.

696
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you said girl parts.

697
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: There were a lot of those two.

698
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,079
Speaker 2: Okay, So she has a small rule. Princess Die was

699
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,719
the guest of honor at this screening.

700
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: Princess Die, if we haven't mentioned this, said Duran. Duran

701
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,920
was her favorite band, not one of Yes, but her favorite.

702
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: Yes. Princess Die was a huge and she was about

703
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,280
the same age, so she loved these guys. She thought

704
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,199
they were great, and she was the guest of honor.

705
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,239
But when John watched the movie, he heard the song All.

706
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:32,119
Speaker 6: Time High, which.

707
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: We've talked about in our Octopusy versus Never Say Never

708
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,039
Again episode. We did and we did not care for it,

709
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,559
John said. John agreed with us and said that song sucks.

710
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,320
That's right, sucks. So at the post party, who's there

711
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,880
other than Princess Die Kubby Brockley.

712
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,679
Speaker 3: Kubbe Brockley, the producer and owner of all of the

713
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,679
James Bond songs.

714
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and so John's like tells his girlfriend Jeanine. He's like, hey,

715
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
introduce me to Kubby Brockley. I've been a James Bond

716
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,639
fan my entire life. And so she's like okay, sure,

717
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,199
so she brings him over to Kubby Brockley says, Cobby,

718
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,880
this is John Taylor. He is a member of Duran. Duran,

719
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,440
You've got the number one song in the world right

720
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,960
now with the reflex, And Kubby's like, I know exactly

721
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,159
who you are. And John's like, when are you going

722
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920
to go back to having good songs in James Bond movie?

723
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,679
And the guy's like, oh, you didn't like that one.

724
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,239
He's like, no, that was terrible. He's like, well, maybe

725
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,199
you should do the next one. He's like I will,

726
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,800
okay then, so Kubby's like done. Deal right, So it's

727
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,679
like this handshake deal right there. Right, you got the

728
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,719
hottest band in the world. James Bond producer Kebby ruck

729
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,280
is like, we got to make this happen. So he

730
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,719
goes to John Berry, who's the Bond composer who's in

731
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,320
his fifties, and he's like, guess what, I just hired

732
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,800
Deuran Durant to do the theme song. And John Berry's

733
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,679
like eh, Kebby Rock is like no, you're going to

734
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,440
make this work. So they come up with arguably the

735
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,880
greatest Bond song of all time, in a View to

736
00:38:50,960 --> 00:39:16,800
a Kill. So while they're tourings, they get a call

737
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,800
they've been invited back to London to do a charity

738
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,239
performance for Charles and Lady Diana. We talked about Lady Die.

739
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,440
They loved Lady Die, so they're like, yeah, we're in right.

740
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,920
So after the performance they meet her. She shakes their

741
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,360
hand and as they're introducing themselves, she's like, well, I

742
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,039
know you. You're a John, you're Roger, you're Simon. She

743
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,920
knows them. She's a fan, like a legit fan, and

744
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,199
the world knows that Deran Duran's her favorite band. Okay. Now,

745
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,880
later on they learn that there was a plot by

746
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,000
the Irish Republican Army to bomb and assassinate Prince Charles

747
00:39:49,039 --> 00:40:01,079
and Lady Diana. At that concert. WHOA. So it turns

748
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,320
out a double agent. This is no joke in the

749
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,320
Irish Republican Army foiled the plot.

750
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 3: Okay.

751
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,079
Speaker 2: The agent said that Duran Durant had no idea how

752
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:17,440
lucky they were, right, Wow, And because Deuran Durant was

753
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,400
known to be Lady Guy's favorite band, the bomb was

754
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,440
believed to have been set to go off during their performance,

755
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,840
thereby assuring that they would kill her. Wow foiled by

756
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,679
a double agent. So while they're on tour, the Reflex

757
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,159
hits number one in America. But at the end of

758
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,960
the Seven and the Ragged Tiger tour, this would be

759
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,320
the last time the original lineup tours together for twenty years.

760
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,920
Once they've completed seven of the Ragged Tiger, they need

761
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,400
another song to bridge the gap. So what do they

762
00:40:48,400 --> 00:41:00,400
come up with? Huge song called Wild Boys. So, going

763
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,360
on that success, they get a call from Bob Geldoff

764
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,920
from the Boomtown Rats.

765
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: From the Boomtown Right among others.

766
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and he wants to do a song called Do

767
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,639
They Know It's Christmas. At this point, the band is

768
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,440
going in different directions. Right. We talk about how Andy

769
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,280
is wanting to be more rock, John is wanting to

770
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,760
do more rock. Nick is stained firm as mister synth

771
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,159
Roger is trying to play the middle, Simon's playing in

772
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,199
the middle. So John and Andy decide they're going to

773
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,400
work on a side project. They'd always loved Tony Thompson

774
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880
from chic They were good friends with Robert Palmer from

775
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,159
Addicted to Love Fame, right, and they said, hey, let's

776
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,400
get together and let's let's do the song bang a Gong,

777
00:41:37,639 --> 00:42:00,960
And so they create the power Station. The power Station

778
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:03,800
does pretty well. They go on tour in nineteen eighty five,

779
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,480
they have some hits, they have Bangagong and they have

780
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,679
some like it Hi. This is when the band like fractures, right,

781
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,360
So the leftover members of Duran Duran they form the

782
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,039
band called Arcadia. Right, and now you have competing factions

783
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,760
within the band. So when live Aid comes around, Bob

784
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,400
Geldoff says, hey, I got a great idea. Why doesn't

785
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,280
the power Station play first and then Duran Duran can

786
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:25,840
play later.

787
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: You're competing with themselves.

788
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: They're competing with themselves. So under this pressure cooker, that's

789
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,119
when they shoot the video for a view to a kill.

790
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:35,440
At that moment, they all could not even look at

791
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,320
each other in the eye.

792
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: There's points in the video where one of them's trying

793
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,280
to kill the other one, and it was like, this.

794
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,679
Speaker 2: Is real life, right. So in nineteen eighty five, The

795
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,760
power Station is touring, but Robert Palmer drops out because

796
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440
the album that he's been working on called Riptide, which

797
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,440
produced Addictatilov right and I didn't mean to turn you on.

798
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,039
His record company is like, dude, you've got to hit

799
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:56,880
album here. You need to drop out of this side

800
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,199
project and get busy with this.

801
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 3: We'll get some supermodels that'll play music for you.

802
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,599
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So we talked about how the

803
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,320
power Station played at six forty five during Live Aid

804
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,760
and Deran Durand plays at eight forty five. By the way,

805
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,719
they played four songs, if You Do a Kill and

806
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,320
you Know, the Snake, Save a Prayer and the Reflex

807
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:18,000
two billion viewers, and when Simon hit the high note

808
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:19,880
on a View to a Kill, his voice broke. It's

809
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,000
kind of an embarrassing moment. And that was the last

810
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,199
time they would all play together for twenty five years

811
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:29,559
wow Live Aid. So shortly after Roger quits retires to

812
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,239
the farm, Andy takes off, he makes a solo album.

813
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,119
He actually does a great song in the summer of

814
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:51,000
eighty six called take It Easy. It was the theme

815
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,239
for American Anthem. And when he did that, he goes

816
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
through the band like Andy quit returning phone calls. He

817
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,719
wouldn't show up, even though he was contractually obligated to

818
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,480
play on the next Randre album.

819
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

820
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: Like they're writing songs, they're doing stuff. Where's Andy. We

821
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,320
don't know, you can't find Andy, so he's out. That's

822
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,039
when they hire Warren Kukruleo.

823
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: Right, who had played previously with Frank Zappa.

824
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

825
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: If you'll remember back in our Toto episode, we talked

826
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960
about how Steve Lukather had tried out for the Frank

827
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,280
Zappa band and Frank Zappa had humiliated him in front

828
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,880
of all of the other guitarists as a technique to

829
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,239
get rid of the crappy players and just get the

830
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,039
cream of the crop. Well, Warren was like an obsessive

831
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Frank Zappa fan, so like when he played, he knew

832
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:38,400
every single song that they had done, not for notes,

833
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,079
so he was flawless. He might have been the guy

834
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,760
who won that competition. I don't know he played with

835
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,159
them in the seventies, but yes, he ends up being

836
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,280
the guitarist for Duran Duran. So that's one circle to

837
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,559
tie in Toto and Deranduran. We get another one coming.

838
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: That's cool. Warren. Actually after Frank Zappa was in Missing

839
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,239
Persons with the Bazios, so he joined Deranduran and iineteen

840
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:11,079
eighty six, they come out with the album Notorious. The

841
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,239
song hit number two on the Hot one hundred. The

842
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,239
album reached number twelve. But they're starting to kind of slide.

843
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Not as many hits, not as impactful, not as much

844
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,159
rotation on MTV. In fact, this is the heyday of

845
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,480
hair metal. So in nineteen eighty eight they come up

846
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,400
with the album Big Thing, which has a couple of

847
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,400
great songs on it, I Don't Want Your Love and

848
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,639
All She Wants Is. But Dran Duran is no longer

849
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,840
the darlights of MTV. They're starting their slide.

850
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: It's a different era of antik.

851
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: Yes, so when ninety one comes around, like the nineties

852
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,920
hit grunge happens. It's not just grunge, but it's like

853
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:50,119
pop culture shuts the door on the eighties and bolts

854
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:54,119
it shut with a locke and proclaims every eighties band

855
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,760
dead yep, And they're like, crap, we're dead in the

856
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,599
water here. And so they had money, pro albums, they

857
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:00,119
had it.

858
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, they had money problems. They had money thought

859
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880
somebody warned him and told them to invest their money.

860
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,039
Speaker 2: Well, apparently they didn't listen. So they're they're at their

861
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,480
lowest point. So Warren Cocilli is the one who kind

862
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,559
of took the lead. He's like, hey, guys, get up

863
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,239
off the deck and let's go. So he was watching

864
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,320
MTV and he started realizing that the tide had sort

865
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,719
of shifted on MTV. He's watching grunge, He's watching the Nevada,

866
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,440
the Pearl Jams and all this type of thing. And

867
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:29,039
the recent fad on MTV was to go unplugged, and

868
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,320
so he's like, guys, let's do something softer. Let's introduce

869
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,360
acoustic guitars. Let's go that route. And that Winter Simon

870
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:48,440
writes the lyrics for the song that becomes Ordinary Well

871
00:46:46,800 --> 00:47:08,199
and the Ordinary World has written about his best friend

872
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:12,000
from the Rum Runner, David Miles, who died from an overdose.

873
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:16,199
Nick said this song came from space or the air.

874
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880
You know, we've talked about how some people downloaded it

875
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,719
right from God. It was that kind of moment for

876
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,119
the band.

877
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: Great song, it's a wonderful song. I had washed my

878
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,159
hands with Duran Duran by the mid nineties, and I

879
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,159
could not argue that that was not a new song.

880
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. It was so huge, and it was

881
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,440
one of those deals where when they completed it, the

882
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:40,000
record company leaked it to radio stations because they knew

883
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,159
how awesome it was, and so there was a demand

884
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,440
for the video before they had even created it.

885
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: Fantastic.

886
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: Sting told John that he wished he would have written nice.

887
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,440
I love it. So the wedding album that contained The

888
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:56,639
Ordinary World rose to number four, their best since seven

889
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:59,239
in the Ragged Tiger, and their second single, come Undone

890
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,719
was unbelieve as well.

891
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, another great song.

892
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,159
Speaker 2: The nineties reintroduced themselves to a generation, but.

893
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:10,039
Speaker 3: It wouldn't last. So ultimately, in nineteen ninety seven, John

894
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,280
leaves the band. Yeah, he decides he wants to pursue

895
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,280
an acting career, which I mean for the pin up guy. Sure,

896
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:18,519
why wouldn't you want to do that? Sure? So the

897
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,480
first movie that he's in called Sugartown Okay, co starring

898
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,280
Roseann Arquette.

899
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: Get Out. Yeah, that's fantastic.

900
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah so fall circle flashback to the Toto four episode. Yeah,

901
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,159
once again, these these albums are these bands at least

902
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:35,960
are intertwined.

903
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 2: Such a great triumphant story for these guys.

904
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Now in two thousand and three, the Fab Five get

906
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,239
back together Andy Dunn's Day for very long now, but

907
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,719
they're still making music today.

908
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: YEP released an album October of last year, Future Past.

909
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,519
I've heard it's great. Melissa told us it was great.

910
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:52,440
I don't have to go check it out.

911
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,599
Speaker 2: We go to go see them a cussert.

912
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, guys, we're going to take a quick break

913
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,920
and give you our surely showcase. This week. We have

914
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,960
a special guest.

915
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is David from guy Fans of Duran. He

916
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:06,159
has his own special Duran Duran podcast and here's what

917
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,280
he had to say about the Rio album.

918
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 7: This is David Oh from the d Side podcast. Thanks

919
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,519
to the Shirly Podcast guys for asking me to share

920
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:18,119
my thoughts on Duran Duran's Rio. So when someone asks

921
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:20,960
you for something like this, I figure it could go one.

922
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,639
Speaker 2: Of two ways.

923
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 7: You could do a deep dive and really analyze things,

924
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,239
or you could just go with your first thoughts off

925
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,199
the top of your head. I've gone with that latter

926
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,880
approach today. First of all, it's kind of important to

927
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,320
know my experience with RIO is a very American one,

928
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,280
as in, we got it a good six months after

929
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,960
the original release, just as its time was sort of

930
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440
winding down in most places. The US label gave it

931
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,559
a remix and one last big push, and the US

932
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,760
finally noticed. Late eighty two saw the re release of

933
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,440
Hunger Like the Wolf, then the RIO single in the

934
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,199
spring of eighty three. The biggest thing about the Rio

935
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,840
album in my mind is that the music was nearly

936
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inseparable from the videos. Six of the nine tracks eventually

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got videos. Two of my favorites did not hold Back,

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The Rain and The Last Chance on the Stairway. The

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videos were groundbreaking. If you look at the other videos

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made in nineteen eighty two, you'll see how incredible something

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like Save a Prayer look to us back then. The

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music is nearly flawless, the Redo of My Own Way

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being maybe one of the less interesting but not particularly

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bad tracks on the album. Rio is now mostly regarded

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as one of those works of staggering genius, but it

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definitely wasn't always that way. For non fans, they were

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pretty boys with no substance. The music press were rarely kind,

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and even in spans it was it was hard to

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get too obsessed with that one album because in the

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space of a year the US got Hunger Like the Wolf, Rio,

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Is There Something I Should Know? And Union of the

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Snake as radio singles, Hunger Like the Wolf, Save a Prayer,

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Rio Planet Earth and Girls on films still from the

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first album, is There Something and I Should Know? And

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Union of the Snake We're all over MTV, And once again,

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in the space of a year, we got the Reo

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re release, the first album, repackaging re release and seven

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in the Rag At Tiger. So as good as Rio was,

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it was one part of a Duran onslaught for me

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at the time. My main memories come down, like I said,

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to the videos, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

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I think it adds not to tracks in this case,

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and just a general Durhan domination that sort of moved

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quickly through multiple looks and styles and sounds around that time.

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If we look at it's legacy It's a monumental album

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from the music that now at least partially defines a decade.

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And in any survey I do on my Twitter page,

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any song from Rio beats any other song ever, always guaranteed.

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So those are the top of my head thoughts on

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Duran Duran's Real album. Thank you again for asking me

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to share this with you, Guys.

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Speaker 3: I can't argue with a super fan man, he's I

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love it that. There is some serious love for this

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album and it is well deserved. This is an incredible album.

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Back cannot wait to get into a track by track,

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but that was a great.

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Speaker 2: Analysis, David. Thank you for doing that. Guys. Go check

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him out on his Duran Duran podcast.

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Speaker 7: The d Side Podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, come back next week as we dive

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in track by track for the Rio album released in

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nineteen eighty two, turn and forty this year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, guys, be sure and hit that follow button on

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if you are so inclined, please give us a five

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star review if you will on your review on your

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written review, throw in the words hungry like the Wolf,

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or dances in the Sand or anything. Duran Duran related

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We will give you a shout out on the podcast.

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You will be entered into a contest to win a

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your name, so be sure to come back next week

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join us. We'll be with Melissa Mingle, ultimate Duran Duran

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expert talking about Rio track by track.

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Speaker 2: Come back next week, guys and we come