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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Carne. I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of your hosts, Julia here with my real tight homegirl

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<v Speaker 1>and my daughter in Lava Beloved be a dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to talk sister wife, Honny. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a new episode drop with so much pipeing hot.

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<v Speaker 3>It was delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into all of that and more,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we do, we have to issue you a disclaimer. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd your wife and hid your kids? This is a

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we swear even.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so if you're one of them, some sunag.

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<v Speaker 2>Names.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, before we get into this episode, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, Beatrice, do you have any takeaways? Like when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you turned it off okay and you took

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<v Speaker 1>your deep breaths, you struck your meditative pose and you

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<v Speaker 1>calmed down a little. Huh, what was your thought? What

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<v Speaker 1>was your late vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>My general vite? But this week was that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Robin is getting kind of tired of Cody. Like

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<v Speaker 2>their Valentine's Day date was super awkward, and she just

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<v Speaker 2>looked like she was not happy to be there. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she ran out of ambien, I don't know. Like she

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<v Speaker 2>was looking a little ragged, her hair was looking a

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<v Speaker 2>little old.

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<v Speaker 1>I did clock some grays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean, I don't care like grays are cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not shaman the grays. But I'm just like, Robin

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<v Speaker 2>is always super put together. Her hair is always turbo died,

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<v Speaker 2>her makeup is always turbo done. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>she looks pretty right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not done well. None of it is done well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it is done.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, put together. She's normally a little bit chipper in

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<v Speaker 2>her interactions with Cody. I know it's Robin, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, like this Valdine's date eate, Like when he

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<v Speaker 2>gives her the jewelry, which we'll talk about later, she

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<v Speaker 2>just looked like things like mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, I guess I didn't really pick up on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my ebe.

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<v Speaker 1>That whole thing felt very scripted to me, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will talk about it when we get to that heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. Interesting. Indeed, my major takeaway was that Janelle

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<v Speaker 1>she's one of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>When Janelle opened up her meals to call out Robin

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<v Speaker 1>as a Diesel jeans model, I'm like, does she watch

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, does she watch.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast too? I'm thank you for calling it out. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had to think in your I thought

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain, in my small little pea raccoon brain,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, Robin's gonna watch this back,

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<v Speaker 1>oh for sure, and she's gonna hear that. And she

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<v Speaker 1>probably already knows that. All of us on the internets

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<v Speaker 1>we say that all the time about her and her

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<v Speaker 1>break dancing pussy as well. So I'm just wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>Robin is going to think hearing that. And for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not believe that Robin ever modeled anything a

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<v Speaker 1>day in her life. Now correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm frequently wrong. But I don't think she ever

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<v Speaker 1>was a Diesel jeans model. I don't think either. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she pair. I don't think she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe she was, you know, like like you go

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<v Speaker 2>on like a crappy commercial, Like maybe she was like

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<v Speaker 2>one of those people were an extra on.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe like at the mall one Sunday there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a fashion show in Utah, Utah, she was like wearing

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<v Speaker 1>some Diesel jean. There's just no way I think she

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<v Speaker 1>tried on some Diesel jeans. She came out of the

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom and she said, Chlody, do you like these? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the extent of her modeling career.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just no way, no, no, there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>no way. And like we've all been talking about her

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<v Speaker 2>being a Diesel Jeans model, like Reddit has been saying

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<v Speaker 2>it too, Like so maybe Jane, Yeah it's a raccoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's on the internet and she's listened to podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>like ours, which I would love. I do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about everything, but Hi, we love you and we

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<v Speaker 1>dan we do stand you. I just thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>such a great comment. And I live, I breathe, I laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love it too, love it so much. Yeah, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else that we want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>I know we want to talk about the jewelry at

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<v Speaker 1>the Valentine's dinner, but we'll do that during the scene

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe afterwards. Yeah, like maybe we'll do it like

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<v Speaker 1>a Patreon exclusive because I have some things to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I have some thought me too that and I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to dive in and we'll do it at the

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<v Speaker 1>back end.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well let's get into this episode. We are

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<v Speaker 1>in season nineteen. This was episode twenty two. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>due two twenty Two's in my Shoes, Holly if you

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<v Speaker 1>need me love, I'm in the house anyway. So what

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<v Speaker 1>was the name of this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Love covers all Wrongs. I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is a scripture. I think the scripture reads

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<v Speaker 1>love covers the multitude of sins? Okay, And I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what this might be in reference to. Is it in

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<v Speaker 1>reference to Cody and Robin's love covering the multitude of

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<v Speaker 1>their wrongs? Because somehow I don't think ew the producers

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<v Speaker 1>would do that, but their love is not pure.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's Christine and David's love.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe because she does talk about her confidence taking

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<v Speaker 1>a huge hit and how now basking in the love

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<v Speaker 1>of David Woolliet's changed her life. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll get into it. We will get into starts

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<v Speaker 1>off Beatrice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we started off strong with Mary and Janelle on

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<v Speaker 2>Coyote Pass talking about lawyering up and the division of

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<v Speaker 2>Coyote Pass. And this was a really interesting conversation. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting to see Janelle and Mary talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this so candidly because they're kind of going into Cody

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<v Speaker 2>and Robin a little bit. And even Mary is speaking

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<v Speaker 2>up and talking about how unfair. It is that Cody

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<v Speaker 2>and Robin think that they can just get away with everything,

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<v Speaker 2>get away with the land, get away with all the

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<v Speaker 2>money that her and Janelle contributed to. Like, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting. What did you think about this whole conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there were many compelling facets from the actual

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<v Speaker 1>contribution for Coyote Pass, the spiritual release slash divorce conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about Janelle and Mary and their relationship. Like, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that there were some really cool moments. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved that they were getting in the ass of Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and Robin because they did contribute to that property, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the last Thanksgiving. We've got Mary coming

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<v Speaker 1>over with her final check presumably to pay for her

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of all this property, and so them bitching about

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<v Speaker 1>Cody not answering them, like not just having the decency,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Janelle refers to this as just regular

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<v Speaker 1>regular human decency to just respond or to just let

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<v Speaker 1>us know what's going on, because we're trying to cut

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<v Speaker 1>cords here, we're trying to get what is ours, and

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<v Speaker 1>you won't even talk to us. I was just like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they cut to Cody and Cody said

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<v Speaker 1>something like, we actually paid one hundred and sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars more than they did. I was like, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>you are the owner of more than fifty percent at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. That's because you both are a couple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so of course for your shares, you're gonna be paying more.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, of course? But even then, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're paying that with the family money, which was contributed

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<v Speaker 2>by TLC and Janelle and Mary's paychecks and probably Christine's too.

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<v Speaker 2>Christine probably was putting into that post absolutely, but then

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<v Speaker 2>when she divorced from Cody, she was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even care. I just want to be done and clear

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<v Speaker 2>of all of my ties to you because dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>financial stuff, she says later in the episode, sucks. Dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with Cody with finances sucks. So it was really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing. And like Janelle said, the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>why she got a lawyer was because Cody was not

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<v Speaker 2>responding to emails, and Mary same thing. She's like, my

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<v Speaker 2>communication is null, Like I don't get to talk to Cody,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't respond to me. He's not telling me what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing with any of this, And Cody panned to

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<v Speaker 2>him His justification for this is, well, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. I'm not responding because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what. I don't know, you know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, be a grown up, dude. You have your

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<v Speaker 2>name on all of these plots. These women are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get out. They're leaving your ass because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want them anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And they want to get out and that's fair. But

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<v Speaker 2>Cody's like, I don't know what to do. Jane feels

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<v Speaker 2>like she's owed something because she's divorcing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that's how divorce works. Hello, you walk away

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<v Speaker 1>from the marriage and you're entitled to your share of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you have built in that marriage. So Janelle absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>has the right to have an expectation to receive fairly

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<v Speaker 1>what she put into this. Yes, but like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he frames it and when he says I think

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<v Speaker 1>something along the lines of like, Robin is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who's not ready yet to sell Coyote Pass, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not going to let these women rush Robin, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>when she's ready, we will sell. I'm like, I'm sorry, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can acquire an attorney and we can put

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<v Speaker 1>this in front of a judge and we can compel

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<v Speaker 1>you to sail. Yeah, because I'm a part owner. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a power it's a constant power play.

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<v Speaker 1>And he likes to pretend that he doesn't want these

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<v Speaker 1>women anyway, although he changes his tune at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode and that was interesting. But he likes

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend that he doesn't want these women anyway. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is, is he so turbo butt hurt that

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<v Speaker 1>they have the audacity, especially Janelle, to walk away from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's just going to make it as painful

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<v Speaker 1>from Uncensored, my whole spin came and brought me a

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<v Speaker 1>very tall alcoholic beverage. So we'll see how I last tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>was I saying, was I talking most talking about Coney? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being turbo butt her? Yes, because these women had the

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<v Speaker 2>And even Janelle calls that out. She says that she

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<v Speaker 2>that's why he's acting like a big baby. Mary is

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<v Speaker 2>like straight up mad. She's in her angry phase. Of like,

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<v Speaker 2>why does it even have to be this way? Like Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>even so in this conversation, she's like, I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>that Cody was going to be better about this, which

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of sad that she even thinks that, because

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<v Speaker 2>that she thinks that because we're all sitting here screaming

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<v Speaker 1>Right and awful. And it was just a few months

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<v Speaker 1>previous to this that he's clutching on to her, he's

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<v Speaker 1>depositing her in pariwan Utah after driving her uhau and crying,

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as he got back to Flagstaff, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he ghosted her and he never ever wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>the crushing shame that came along with the spiritual release

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<v Speaker 1>and the determination that he abandoned Mary, like he can't

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot handle that, he can't handle any of this

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he's not responding to any of their emails

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<v Speaker 1>or messages, because he just doesn't want to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that he doesn't know what to do, he

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<v Speaker 1>just wants to avoid it and wants to act like

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<v Speaker 1>it never happened. And like, Janelle is really cool here

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<v Speaker 1>because she is advocating for not only herself but for Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's expressing to Mary over and over again in

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<v Speaker 1>have her name on a full plot, and that sucks

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<v Speaker 1>because she's in kind of the worst position here. Janelle's

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<v Speaker 1>not in a good position either, but she's in a

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<v Speaker 2>She is.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't really have to help Mary, but she's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they join forces together, they can really compel

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<v Speaker 1>them to give them something that's fair. But like without

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<v Speaker 1>each other, they really don't stand that kind of a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it'll be harder and they would have to have

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys and they'd have to litigate the heck out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And this is also where we hear from Janelle

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<v Speaker 2>that Cody's always been like this and she should have

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<v Speaker 2>saw it coming. She should have seen this whole situation

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<v Speaker 2>coming and she didn't. And Mary advocates and is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can say you're naive, but like, we

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<v Speaker 2>actually thought Cody was going to be a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We thought that he cared about the whole family, and

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out he didn't. And then Janelle tells an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting story about how she had to pay off all

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<v Speaker 2>of her debt on her own and this debt is

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<v Speaker 2>what she took out to actually take care and support.

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<v Speaker 1>The family in Lehigh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I guess when Robin sold her house in

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas or no, when she had her house in Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>or was it the house here in Flagstaff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the house in Vegas that Cody

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, like the proceeds of that sale went

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<v Speaker 1>toward family debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which I'm like, I don't. I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it went to Robin's dead. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it went to family debt. And then Janelle talked about

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to be on the indeed for one of Robin's houses.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was maybe the flag Staff house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first manage mansion, it's the McMansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Cody said no because Robin needs her estate.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and Janelle should have said in that moment, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have an estate. I have nothing. I just

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<v Speaker 1>sold my house and I just gave you the proceeds

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<v Speaker 1>of that sale so that Robin could have this McMansion.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you put my name, in Mary's name, in

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<v Speaker 1>Robin's name on this house, then we all have part

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<v Speaker 1>of that estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, there were so many critical points in the process

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<v Speaker 1>over the years where they should have said something. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was very fascinating that Mary claims to have

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<v Speaker 1>said something and asked questions about like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>putting your name on all of the plots or why

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing it this way? And when she said

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, she got some pushback from a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said, she got in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she said she's so from who So obviously Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Cody would not look like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Robin would be the other person.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. But I feel like Robin probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like outwardly mad, but she manipulated it and twisted it

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<v Speaker 2>into this situation of like, no, you're not being fair

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<v Speaker 2>you're not being a team player, because I think Janelle

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<v Speaker 2>mentions that too, Like any time they ever had any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pushback about these weird financial decisions that they

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<v Speaker 2>were making, you know, Cody would say, you're not being

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<v Speaker 2>a team player, right, basically, shut up and stop dissenting because.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do it my way and I'm the patriarch.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wondered in that moment if the person who

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<v Speaker 1>like gave some resistance to Mary was Janelle, because Janelle

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<v Speaker 1>said something in that conversation like, yeah, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of had to fall into line or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like we couldn't be really loud about it,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't really make a fuss about it. I'm like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if Mary's calling you out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just can't I don't know, I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that Janelle, with all of her financial acumen, would

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with Mary saying can we get some transparency?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we figure out a strategy? Like why are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing it this way? I don't understand, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>every right to since I am paying in that eminently

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable yep, But if it wasn't Janelle then it was

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<v Speaker 1>Robin and Cody, Oh that gave Mary a hard time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just wild to me. So Mary's being bullied

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<v Speaker 1>during this time, being bullied to hand over money. So

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<v Speaker 1>is Janelle, And what does she get for doing all that?

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<v Speaker 1>She gets ghosted and flag staff during a global pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>and has nobody, no one, not a one.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a one. And then when they're trying to divide

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<v Speaker 2>Coyote Pass fairly and equally, they're not getting any communication

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<v Speaker 2>from Cody or Robin. And then Cody's telling the cameras

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<v Speaker 2>that Robin doesn't want to sell, so we can't rush

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<v Speaker 2>it because apparently what Robin dictates poor little questions. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, like, that's what Cody's telling on himself

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<v Speaker 2>and telling on Robin here. When he's saying that, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we know, yeah, all you care about is Robin.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cody even says something crazy like you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about Janelle being entitled to something, He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have an estate. My only estate is Robin's estate,

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<v Speaker 2>Like okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're tied to that, right, and you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say you don't have anything, but I just love

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<v Speaker 1>After we have this whole conversation and then they pan

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<v Speaker 1>over to them with Ariella's vanity and Earl the crap

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<v Speaker 1>in their house after he's talking about how he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything, and it's all really Robin's I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, all the artwork, all the statues, all

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<v Speaker 1>the crystals, all the things, it is. It is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I'm sorry, no, go ahead jumping on you,

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<v Speaker 1>but him saying the line again and I'm just repeating myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but the audacity to say, like, I mean, Janelle expects

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<v Speaker 1>something after thirty years of marriage, she expects to walk

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<v Speaker 1>away with something when you're the one who walked away

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<v Speaker 1>when we all know, Cody you pushed these women away,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you did. But you're singling out Janelle here

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<v Speaker 1>because again, Janelle is the one that got away.

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<v Speaker 2>For Cody, definitely. And also she was the one that

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<v Speaker 2>he I think pressured a lot more into financial stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like if she had to take on what probably thousands

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<v Speaker 2>upon thousands of dollars of debt just to support the family,

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<v Speaker 2>because maybe nobody else was willing to do that, who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's crazy. Yeah, she's entitled to one parcel, like

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<v Speaker 2>we even entitled so much more of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but like in the respect of Coyote Pass, like she's

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not asking for a lot, No.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just entre She's just asking for her fair share.

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<v Speaker 2>And like we even Panna Christine being like, I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>glad I'm out of Coyote Pass, Like I really hope

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<v Speaker 2>they will divide it equally four ways. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>know Cody, like, it's not going to happen that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know because we've seen how the parcels were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of divided up. It wasn't really divided up like

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<v Speaker 2>we all thought it would be. People's names got switched

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<v Speaker 2>on to it. Whatever. I don't know how they divided

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<v Speaker 2>the proceeds from the one point five million dollars sale

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<v Speaker 2>of all of it, but hopefully everybody got their fair

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<v Speaker 2>share and they're done and over with it and cut

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<v Speaker 2>off their ties. What did you think about the whole

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual divorce conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved this because on the one hand, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Janelle doing Mary a solid by aligning herself for their

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<v Speaker 1>financial interests, aligning themselves together, and then it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a quid pro quo. Mary's not doing this for Janelle

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<v Speaker 1>because she owes her anything, but I loved seeing her say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll show up for you. And they have the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about the spiritual release, and we start by Mary saying

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<v Speaker 1>something like, yeah, oh God. Godi was really upset about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't like how that went down, so they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it a little. But then we kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>into Janelle's present faith and how she feels about a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual release, and she makes it very clear that she's

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<v Speaker 1>not in the same situation as Christine. Now, Christine by

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<v Speaker 1>this point has abandoned her faith. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>her LDS, her Mormonism, her mainstream general stuff, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the AUB she's no longer a part of that. But

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<v Speaker 1>she did not feel the need to get a spiritual release.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm not married to this man. Legally I

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<v Speaker 1>can move on and I have no problem with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Janelle is saying that she actually is still part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Face and she still does believe in their

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<v Speaker 1>doctrines and their tenants, and in the future, if she

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<v Speaker 1>meets somebody, presumably someone who aligns with her faith, like

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<v Speaker 1>is she going to feel like, well, I've got this

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<v Speaker 1>other marriage, this spiritual marriage, kind of hanging over my head,

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<v Speaker 1>so do I want to get it? So the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that ensues from that, I thought was really cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see these women who have been through so much life

421
00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:39.079
<v Speaker 1>together and had ups and they had a lot of downs.

422
00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but Mary saying like, oh, I'll go with you. Yeah,

423
00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.279
<v Speaker 1>we can do it together, and that was so awesome,

424
00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and we can have a separate conversation like

425
00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:49.279
<v Speaker 1>not on camera, where I can tell you what is

426
00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>involved and you can make the decision. So I just

427
00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:54.279
<v Speaker 1>thought that was really wonderful personally, really.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Cool, and I liked how Mary was still like validating

429
00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual part of it, like telling Janelle like, well,

430
00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>you were married that way for thirty years and so

431
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:06.240
<v Speaker 2>it is valid, and like, if you want to get

432
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual release, freaking do it so that way you

433
00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:10.839
<v Speaker 2>have no more ties to Cody at all. And I

434
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:14.400
<v Speaker 2>think that is what appeals to Janelle ultimately, because prior

435
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:16.839
<v Speaker 2>to this, she was like kind of like I don't

436
00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.519
<v Speaker 2>really care, Like I'm done with Cody, I've already left.

437
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm in North Carolina now, Like it doesn't matter. But

438
00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>in this conversation, Janelle starts being like, yeah, you know what,

439
00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like I don't want any more ties, not even a

440
00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 2>spiritual one, and she brings up God and she's like, well,

441
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to upset God either if I'm like

442
00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>still spiritually tied to him. I think she says something

443
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.519
<v Speaker 2>like I believe in everything in my faith except for polygamy,

444
00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Like she no longer believes in that anymore, which was

445
00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting.

446
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I see her going back to just mainstream LDS yep

447
00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and just being a regular, regular, more Mormon, but the

448
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 1>faith is still very important to her. And I really

449
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>appreciated the conversation about the afterlife. Yeah, and like what happens.

450
00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:01.279
<v Speaker 1>And Mary was still so charitable because she talks about

451
00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Cody not wanting to be tied to her in the afterlife,

452
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and so she wants to make sure he doesn't have

453
00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to be. But at the same time, she does not

454
00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:11.559
<v Speaker 1>want to be tied to that man either. And at

455
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 1>this time, the time of this filming, Mary is dreaming

456
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.640
<v Speaker 1>of the next chapter, the next romance, the next person,

457
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and she wants that very much for herself. So she

458
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.519
<v Speaker 1>just wants to clean this late and she wants to

459
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>set up her life in the physical and also in

460
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:27.759
<v Speaker 1>the eternal, which is such a cool little snapshot into

461
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Mormonism for those of us who are not part of

462
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the religion totally.

463
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>And I do like the subtle, like passive aggressiveness of

464
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.640
<v Speaker 2>getting the spiritual divorce because Cody doesn't really subscribe to

465
00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:40.440
<v Speaker 2>as church anymore, doesn't really care.

466
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 1>About babe too, sometimes only.

467
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.519
<v Speaker 2>When it's convenient, right, but like it's I feel like

468
00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:49.680
<v Speaker 2>they like the idea of the spiritual divorce too, because

469
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 2>it requires the church leaders calling up Cody and being like, yeah,

470
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 2>you abandoned Mary. We're giving her the divorce on the

471
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.759
<v Speaker 2>grounds of abandonment, which hang up.

472
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>He is still piss Even at the time of the

473
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>filming of his interstitials, which I imagine is probably over a

474
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 1>year after the fact, he's still mad about it, and

475
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he tells us on the couch, He's like, well, you know, essentially,

476
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Mary's lucky I didn't show up and you know, testify

477
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>as to why this marriage broke down, because if I did,

478
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have been able to give her the spiritual release.

479
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

480
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like okay, Cody, whatever, So what is.

481
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.640
<v Speaker 2>It you wanted? To be involved, so that way they

482
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.839
<v Speaker 2>didn't say that you abandon your wives because you hate

483
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the word abandonment. Or is it that they would just

484
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 2>not grant the release, like he's trying to say, if

485
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>you're a man in the church, they won't grant your release,

486
00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:41.119
<v Speaker 2>but a woman can go to the church leader and

487
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.319
<v Speaker 2>they'll give her a release no matter what.

488
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't he's trying to say, like if I

489
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>told them all the things Mary actually did to me,

490
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't grant her the release. I'm sorry, I don't

491
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>think so. The fact that she's asking for it sounds

492
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like all she that's all she needs to do, and

493
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>she's going to get it. You're just bitter and unhappy

494
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>because you got called out in your religion. And that's

495
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the only reason you're no longer a part of that

496
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>religion is because they called you out and they said

497
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you abandon these women. If they were still holding you

498
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>up as some kind of a polygamous prize, you would

499
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>still be aligned with that religion. It's all about your narcissism, yeah,

500
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and your ego.

501
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And he can't handle failure, like he's been a failure

502
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>as a husband. He's been a failure as a father,

503
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>he's a failure as a polygonist, like, as a business person,

504
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 2>as a perspider, yep, as a guy with hair, like.

505
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>He's a failure on every level.

506
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>So you just can't handle it. So that's why he's

507
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:34.960
<v Speaker 2>pissed off about it. But I love it. I'm like

508
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 2>wallow in it. I don't care.

509
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Just to me, it seems like it

510
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>would be so easy to be like, yeah, I got

511
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.559
<v Speaker 1>really bad at the end. Yeah, again, I didn't want

512
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to see any of these women and I was happy

513
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 1>to just spend time with Robin. Obviously, I am more

514
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>inclined to monogamy at this stage in my life, and

515
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I could have been a better husband, And yeah I

516
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 1>did abandon her, Like how hard would that be to

517
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>just tell the truth? Why are you still trying to

518
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>lie and put on airs because you can't handle it?

519
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like, is it because he

520
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>can't handle it like internally or is it because he

521
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to appear that way to us we already

522
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>see you though?

523
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but I think it's both. Like if he's

524
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 2>a true narcissist, like narcissism is a giant cope of

525
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>like you can't deal with shame, you can't be a failure,

526
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and so you overinflate your ego for everybody else. Like

527
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 2>he puts on this air for everyone else that he's

528
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 2>this rich guy, he still has hair, he's a good husband,

529
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>he's a good dad. But we all know the truth

530
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's just a giant cope. So like I think

531
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 2>he can't deal with it inside and he's putting on

532
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 2>ears for everybody else.

533
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but it's like it's sad. It's got to be

534
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 1>a sad way to live.

535
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, it's pathetic.

536
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>It'd be so much easier to just tell the truth.

537
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.519
<v Speaker 1>And like there's so much power in like owning your mistakes, right,

538
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 1>your failures. Yeah, like that's the phoenix rising from the

539
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>ashes ironically. Seriously, Yeah, same thing.

540
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>With Rob And it's like if you just told the truth.

541
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Just can't yeah, because she can't be the villain, even

542
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>though we all know she is the villain.

543
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 1>And in her attempts to try and appear as not

544
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 1>the villain, she embeds herself even more as the villain.

545
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Like when we get to the conversation when they go

546
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>out to dinner and we talk about Aspen and the

547
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>way she's just editing, the way that Cody's talking, and

548
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, don't even get me started. Okay, we'll

549
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 1>get there when we get there, but I'm just like,

550
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>she's the villain. She is one villain evil yeap. And

551
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>then we pan over to like this weird little segment

552
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 1>for Valentine's Day with Christine and her girls Aspen and Mchelty.

553
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I am a broken record and so I don't want

554
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to visit upon you. Just my absolute rejection of Mchelte.

555
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>She was so annoying in entirety. But I'm just like,

556
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>here we go again with this weird energy, just grasping

557
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 1>for the limelight, grasping for a moment. It is so

558
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable to me. I'm truly in this moment. I'm like

559
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 1>me too. Bye, I'm going back to my room. Y'all

560
00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want to do with your sexy dancing.

561
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:01.559
<v Speaker 1>And we had to go back to the lap dance.

562
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I know why I had to go back. We have

563
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to go back to I don't know why why Christine

564
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to be a sexual being. I love that she's getting

565
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>loved down by David Wily, but do we really need

566
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 1>her to pan to mind a strip teas trying on

567
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>a red dread. Do we really need to harken back

568
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to the wedding and the lap dance?

569
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>No, we do not know.

570
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>This is a completely superfluous, unnecessary segment, and it's like.

571
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Low key inappropriate because truly's there and she's freaking fourteen,

572
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and she's.

573
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, please don't, like, could you not? Though?

574
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to talk about mom being sexy in

575
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 2>front of me? Like that's gross. Like it's one thing

576
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>with Mikeltine Aspen, who are grown adults like they have

577
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 2>their own children, it's another with Truly right there. And

578
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>then Christine makes a comment about Truly already has to

579
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>live with newlyweds and she doesn't like it very much,

580
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 2>which I'm like, does that mean because you're banging a lot?

581
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

582
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Probably that's gross when you're probably kissing and you're very

583
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>demonstrative and affectionate, and that's okay, certainly, Sure, it's okay

584
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in moderation, let's say, but like, is she hearing stuff?

585
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably no, And that's what makes me mad about it.

586
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it before on the.

587
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Podcast You have pis it does it's inappropriate, but like

588
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>michelt walked in with that energy. It's just like talking

589
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>about Aspen's plans for later in the day. I just like,

590
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have sex and what are you doing? Kelthy?

591
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Just be a normal person. You don't have to fill

592
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 1>every moment with your words and with your energy. Just like,

593
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>back off the Aspen in this.

594
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Moment, I know, just chill out.

595
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Why it down. I can't stand her and even Christine,

596
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Aspen's Hair's just always too much. These

597
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 1>people are too much.

598
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 2>This is where Michelta gets it from. Yeah, I mean

599
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>low key.

600
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is why we talk about person.

601
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Christine being kind of annoying. It's because m Chelty is annoying.

602
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Like they feed off of each other and like they're

603
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously best friends and that's great, but like I don't

604
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>need to see Michelty.

605
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to see it either. It's like Christine,

606
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Peyden and Michelty are all very similar personality wise, and

607
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you've got Aspen and Gwendolen and then you have Aspen,

608
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Isabelle and Truly who are just like trying to be

609
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 1>like in the background, like just please don't look at me,

610
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>don't personally refer to me. I don't want to be

611
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:08.799
<v Speaker 1>in this.

612
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Shot, yep, and that's me.

613
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 1>That's me in that moment as well. I don't need this.

614
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Don't look at me.

615
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So Christine's really excited because it's the first Valentine's Day

616
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 1>celebration since they got married. Well, they're going to be

617
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>going out, so she's called her daughters over, both of

618
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:27.599
<v Speaker 1>whom have such beautiful hair at goals for real, just

619
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, objectively. Aspen and Michelty are both beautiful

620
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>young ladies. Yes, totally and the pride I'm sure of

621
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Christine their mother. But she's called them over so that

622
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>she can try on dresses and produce content for the show.

623
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>And it is c ringe for real. I'm just like,

624
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 1>oh God.

625
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And then she picks like a red numbers off the

626
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>shoulders so she can show her titty tattoo. And then

627
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 2>she goes to dinner with David and with like a

628
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>place near a fireplace or something. I don't know. It

629
00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>looks lovely, looks great.

630
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>They have alcohol, which is interesting, and she has more

631
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 1>than one drink, which I love for her because here

632
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I am having a beverage as well. What I loved

633
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>about this was not a lot. But what I did

634
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>love about this was having Christine given a moment to

635
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>talk once again about how her marriage to Cody affected

636
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>her and how him telling her that he was not

637
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 1>attracted to her, not just in the last few years,

638
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>not just in the last decade, but on the day

639
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 1>of my cat's Keene Saniera and our wedding. I was

640
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 1>not attracted to you. I have never been attracted to you,

641
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 1>even though I was able to get my dick card

642
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and give you I don't know six children if you have,

643
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>but I was never attracted to you. And like, what

644
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a toll that took on her emotionally as a woman,

645
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 1>and how that hurt her so much, And then we

646
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 1>get that flash back to the Mormon conference room where

647
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 1>she's telling him that they are going to be divorcing

648
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 1>and they're hashing it out, and I just felt, once again,

649
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>just really bad for her. I can't of even imagine

650
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>not having a husband who's obsessed with me, obsessed with

651
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 1>every curve that I have, and I have so many,

652
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and my husband loves every bit of it.

653
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Hoodie. I can't imagine living in a world where I'm

654
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 3>not being adored sexually and in every way by my husband,

655
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>like truly though I feel bad, and he's so glad

656
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 3>that she's found David.

657
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Will And honestly, I thought it was really cool how

658
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>she talked about it, like how her confidence took a

659
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>plummet and then she really had to work on herself

660
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 2>before she even thought about dating again. And now you

661
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>see her. I know, I'm like, you literally dated David

662
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Willie like two seconds.

663
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>After Yeah, but okay, whatever.

664
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.839
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, it's cool that she was

665
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>able to do that inner work allegedly and like, you know,

666
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>move on and get with a guy who literally says

667
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>at the dinner table on their date, like you're so

668
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>very hot. So that's lovely bad for her and she

669
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>deserves that. Like no matter how annoying she is, I

670
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>really am happy for her and all of the lap dances.

671
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>That she gives to And I never want to see that.

672
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I just never want to see it.

673
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, and watching their scenes had me questioning whether they

674
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>could really support a show just themselves. Yeah, any maybe

675
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as a part of a triad, you know, her, Janelle

676
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and Mary and what they're doing with their lives. Like

677
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I could never just watch a show about Christine and

678
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>her weird ass children. I know and like what she's

679
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>doing with her life, even though I'm sure it's very interesting,

680
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I could never do it. Like these segments don't need

681
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to be in these episodes. No, they really don't.

682
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 2>And the only reason why they included their Valentine's Day

683
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>dinners so they could just juxtapose it with Robin and

684
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Cody's Valentine's Day dinner, which is kind of like the

685
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 2>next thing we get to before. So we before Valentine's Days.

686
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

687
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I've just been picturing them rising from their coffins, bats,

688
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>flying cobwebs. They're vampire children, Cody Sparratu and Robin Sparratu

689
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting across from each other like drinking from skulls straight up.

690
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Just oh god, they're terrible.

691
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Evil people, man, They're terrible people. And like before the

692
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>whole Valentine's Day dinner, we have them building a freaking

693
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>vanity set for Aril who listen, Okay, she's an innocent child.

694
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to dig out Ariol.

695
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna shot on, of course not.

696
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>She's a baby.

697
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>She's a baby, and she doesn't realize her parents are demons, right,

698
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, yeah, but Cody talks about how every year

699
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>for Valentine's Day they like to get their kids gifts,

700
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and so they bought little Aril, who's like, I don't

701
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>know nine, I don't know, you care a talk. They

702
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>buy her a vanity for her for Valentine's Day. And

703
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I was so bitter as a child

704
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>watching this, because I'm just like, man, you can't even

705
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>call your other kids like on their actual, let alone

706
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day, Like you can't even like have a relationship

707
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>with all the other children you brought into the world.

708
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, let's buy this ten year old of vanity set.

709
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Here's my question. What about Saul. Oh well, yeah, he's

710
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>standing right there. What does he get It's Valentine's Day

711
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>for Saul too. I mean he went to school that

712
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>day and he probably exchanged little Valentine's cards. I mean

713
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 1>he's celebrating Valentine's Day, but like nothing for him. Cricket,

714
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>A new coffin, A new coffin. It's in the basement. Honey, Sorry,

715
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 1>so terrible. Sorry, So I shouldn't have said that's fine,

716
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>but like.

717
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>The coffin, Yeah, it's nice. And come from forgive me Lord.

718
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, what about Solomon, I'm kind of weird.

719
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Like when my husband and I celebrate Valentine's Day, which

720
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>we never do because it's a corporate holiday just about

721
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>making well, we don't care about it. But if we

722
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 1>were to do it, it would be just as much

723
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>about him, yeah, as it is about me exactly. And

724
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>plus you have twenty thousand other kids who I'm sure

725
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>would love to hear from you, just yeah, one phone

726
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>call from you for Valentine's Day. But no, it's all

727
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>about Ariella. I can imagine being his other children or

728
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>his daughter's watching this back.

729
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, I would have been so

730
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 2>freaking pissed if I saw my dad like giving his

731
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>other daughter a really awesome vanity because she likes the

732
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 2>makeup and it's a really thoughtful gift for a little Ariella,

733
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's great. I'm glad that she's happy, But like

734
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>if I was a daughter, I'd be like really, like

735
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't even get like a little box of Heart chocolates.

736
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't even get that a text like come anything.

737
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 2>But what was interesting about this segment is that when

738
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>they bring up the Amazon package of this vanity box.

739
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 1>And there's my husband mowing. You told him, I don't think.

740
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>It can we can hear it. I don't think anybody

741
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>can hear it. I think you're crazy. You don't have

742
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>to always find me, can leave it in or whatever,

743
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think so. But it's like, are you sure

744
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>you hear the mowing? To know that you can't hear it.

745
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Beatrice told him that he could, and so now he's

746
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 1>going to be out there just mowing all night. Buddy,

747
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's got a beer and he's going for it.

748
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>But his little core is sorry and just letting you

749
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>know in advance. There might be some moan going on

750
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>in the background anyway.

751
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, So they bring up the Amazon package from

752
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 2>their basement full of other Amazon.

753
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Packages next to the Dickensian Village and all those American

754
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>girl dogs.

755
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and Cody makes a comment about how Robin's the shopping.

756
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Queen again on the heels of the conversation between Janelle

757
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and Mary about how these people aren't paying them their money.

758
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Chef's kiss. I love the producers for that. I feel

759
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 2>like they're totally throwing some shade, or maybe throwing us

760
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>some fan service a little bit with these edits. They

761
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 2>could do more. I think they could do a lot more.

762
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>They could, but they're doing the best that they can

763
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm liking it a lot. And then we talk

764
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>about Valentine's Day and how Cody's the babe ruth where

765
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>he sometimes knocks it out of the park and other

766
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 2>times he strikes out, which I'm just like.

767
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, I thought it was an interesting discussion about Valentine's

768
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Day in the polygamist structure, how it does kind of

769
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>put the husband into a precarious situation because like, you

770
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can't give one wife like preferential treatment. She gets something

771
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>great and the other wives don't. We see some flashbacks

772
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to a time when he's like handing out flowers and

773
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>he's not giving anybody a kiss, and it's all very platonic,

774
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and I did think it was I thought it was really,

775
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, insightful of Robin. I know that's strange

776
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 1>to hear in the form of a sentence. I just

777
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 1>thought it was very insightful when she talked about how

778
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 1>she entered the family and the rule already existed that

779
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they could not show affection. Cody could not show affection

780
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 1>to his wives and they could not show affection to him,

781
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 1>and that it was her philosophy that they should, and

782
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that the wives and Cody were quick to like have arguments,

783
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>have edgy talks, have fights, but they never allowed us

784
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>for love and for affection, and maybe if they had

785
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 1>it would have been better for everybody.

786
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Except then it would have been more obvious, yeah, to

787
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>see the disparity between the affection that Cody gave all

788
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the other wives and Robin, and she talks about this,

789
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like how this rule made Cody and all the other

790
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:30.119
<v Speaker 2>wives probably feel alone and feel like they couldn't show

791
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 2>their affection their love towards their not's even secure, and

792
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Robin says that this was like a huge mistake. She

793
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>thinks that this was kind of like the downfall of

794
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the family. And we were already jealous anyway, so who

795
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>cares if you saw him be with another wife affectionately

796
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>like we're already jealous, which I can understand. But then

797
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 2>we pan over to Christine and Mary who kind of

798
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 2>give their takes on it and say, well, it wouldn't

799
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 2>have bothered me. I think Mary was the one that

800
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>said this, like it wouldn't have bothered me if I

801
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 2>was in a good place with Cody to see him

802
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 2>be affectionate with other wives. But when I was struggling,

803
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and Christine echoes this, when I was struggling, it was

804
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>really hard for him to see. For me to see

805
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 2>him be in a better place with the other wives,

806
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>which I could respect, it would be difficult. And this

807
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 2>is why polygamy does not a good.

808
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Option, right, Yah, not good at all. And this is

809
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>where we get the interstitial from Cody, where he talks

810
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>about how Mary historically, certainly when they were first married,

811
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was very clingy, Yeah, very needy, like sit in his

812
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>lap and hug him a lot, and how it was

813
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Janelle's mother who approached him and said, it's really hard

814
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>for Janelle to see that affection, so you might want

815
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to make a shift and a change. And from that

816
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 1>moment on, they enacted this rule that they weren't going

817
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>to show affection to one another. And Janelle says in

818
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 1>her talking head like, yeah, like, you can have the

819
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 1>rules applied to the different marriages according to the people

820
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 1>in those marriages, And if everybody felt good about Cody,

821
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the relationship with Cody, it maybe wouldn't have been a

822
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 1>big deal if he was affectionate or they were affectionate

823
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 1>with him. But because there was always a problem in

824
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 1>one of those relationships, they could never manage it.

825
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and because Cody couldn't manage his other relationships with

826
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody to make it feel like it was equal for

827
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>everyone and make everybody feel equally loved, because you know,

828
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>love should be multiplied, not divided. It would have been better, yea,

829
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it would have been fine. Right, They could have dealt

830
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>with it, but they couldn't because it's all Cody's fault.

831
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, Is this when Janelle talks about how Robin doesn't

832
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>really understand that life because by the time she came

833
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>into the family, like they had already scrimped and saved

834
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>and like had all their hardships and then she just

835
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>reaped all the rewards. Was it this part or was

836
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it somewhere else?

837
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 2>It was probably earlier, but it was in the context

838
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 2>of like Cody can have his Diesel genes model and

839
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 2>live happily ever after, but like, she's never been through

840
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the hard times with you, she said, she's never been

841
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>through the starving years. She talks about when she was

842
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>holding her up with a freaking safety pin, diaper pin,

843
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and like they were broke as hell and she was

844
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>with him through all of it. And I think James

845
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>talked about this on My Take on Reality a little bit.

846
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he talked about it on a speak pipe or

847
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>when we did our live with him, but he mentioned

848
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>this very thing. So it was interesting to have Janelle

849
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 2>echo it on the show and say like, yeah, that's cool,

850
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you can have her now when you're rich and

851
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>you have all this money and all these cool things,

852
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 2>But she wasn't there with you during the hard time,

853
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and that's the woman you want to keep, and you

854
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>got rid of all three of.

855
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Them, right, So it's easy for you, Robin, to talk

856
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>about wanting affection or displays of affection, but you weren't

857
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>there when we were trying to figure out all the

858
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>rules so that we could make this family work. And

859
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 1>so now though you've entered the family and we've all left,

860
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 1>now you get the benefit of all of the resources

861
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 1>and all of the money and all of the assets.

862
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You get to have them, He gets to have his model,

863
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and I guess we're just out in the cold.

864
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And this is like something we've talked about prior episodes

865
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>of like would Robin leave Cody when the resources.

866
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Robin have stayed exactly if Robin was the second wife,

867
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>if Robin was the third wife like back in the day,

868
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>would she have stayed during the lean years or would

869
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>she have had a problem with that? I suspect given

870
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the debt that she walked out of her first marriage

871
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>with to the Victoria's Secret and everything, I would suspect

872
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>she would have not have been happy. She would not

873
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>have wanted to struggle, and she never had to struggle

874
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 1>with Cody. Nope, That's why she is going to be

875
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>disinclined to leave him now because again the question is

876
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>where are you going to go though, rob Bed, Where.

877
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Are you going to go?

878
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>What you go to do?

879
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean for real?

880
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Because money is her motivator exactly.

881
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Very interesting.

882
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

883
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And then the last scene that we have is the

884
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's dinner with Cody and Robin some weird steakhouse or

885
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 2>something right, And this is where Cody gives her the jewelry,

886
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>which we'll probably talk about later at the.

887
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>End because let's let's save that for Patreon. We'll have

888
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like a deep dive discussion about the jewelry and how

889
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>we really feel about that. Yeah, it is, talk about

890
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it then.

891
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but he gives her the jewelry. He says, it's

892
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>pretty jewelry for a pretty Ladyka, which I'm like, is

893
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 2>the pretty lady in the room with us?

894
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the pretty jewelry in the room with us for real.

895
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then we get into a conversation about I

896
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>guess Cody went and visited some of his eldest daughters.

897
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>He went, I think probably for a visit with Truly,

898
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and when he was there, he also met with Aspen

899
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like a couple of sons from a

900
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>different mother, So I'm thinking obviously Janelle, unless he's preferring

901
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to Peyden and another brother. I don't really know who

902
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 1>this was. But he did have a conversation with Aspen,

903
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>which sounds truly heartbreaking. Yes, and as a parent, I mean,

904
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just so sad for Aspen hearing how Cody

905
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>is recounting the conversation as if it was like such

906
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing. But go on, I don't want to

907
00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>jump on your toes.

908
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like Robin asks the question like how was that?

909
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, because she's reading a script and so she's

910
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>asking Cody like, how was that? Conversation and Cody says, well,

911
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Afspin came to me and said that she feels like

912
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I hate her like and I don't want to be

913
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>around her.

914
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you like me, daddy?

915
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you like me? And Robin makes a comment

916
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and says, well, that was more of a confrontation, which

917
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like. And actually I had a conversation with

918
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Ethel about this because Ethel said this was the moment

919
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>for her where she realized Robin was the villain because

920
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Cody is recounting Aspen telling him this heartbreaking thing, why

921
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 2>don't you like me? Dad? And Cody in his talking

922
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 2>head is like, sweetheart, I love you. That's what he

923
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.400
<v Speaker 2>says to the camera anyway, and Robin turns it into

924
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>what was a confrontation, makes it a Harsher moment than

925
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>what it needs to be. And Ethel said this is

926
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>indicative of Robin's soft manipulation, like always turning the situation

927
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.039
<v Speaker 2>into something worse than it actually needs to be. But

928
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe Robin this entire time has just been pushing Cody

929
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>away from his kids because she wants him to be

930
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>focused on her kids only. And it shows because like

931
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 2>the vanity set for ril, it's like, does she need

932
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that though she's ten and Cody's not giving that same

933
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of love and affection to truly or to any

934
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of his other kids. So it was actually really interesting,

935
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 2>like Ethel making that observation of Robin framing that conversation.

936
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Like so but importantly yes, And I wondered if she

937
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 1>caught herself doing it, because she is the Cody whisperer. Ye,

938
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and we've had Janelle call her out for trying to

939
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 1>constantly therapize and be in that role. Like I wondered

940
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 1>if she caught herself reframing it as a confrontation when

941
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 1>it was Cody who introduced it as a conversation. Yes,

942
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>because then she's like, I mean a good confrontation though,

943
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>But like I think she was trying to set it up,

944
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 1>like like worst case scenario would be she's trying to

945
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 1>covertly present it to us as Cody goes over there

946
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with his kids and askin forces the

947
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 1>confrontation in which she accuses Cody of neglecting her or something.

948
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 1>But Cody in that moment, he's so dumb anyway, But

949
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>in that moment, he's like, no, it was actually a

950
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 1>really great conversation. Yeah, and so she asked me this

951
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 1>question and I told her absolutely not, I love you

952
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and two things and I'm hoping I'm going to remember

953
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>them both. But the first thing was as a parent,

954
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that is not what I would have said. I would

955
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have ended with that how much I love you. The

956
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>first thing I would have said, though, would have been

957
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 1>around taking responsibility for the fact that I have not

958
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>contacted you and even the way that it refers to

959
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>this on the couch. And he's like, well, you know,

960
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>because these women were talking about me and the kids

961
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 1>were seeing me through their filter and you know, I

962
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't deal with it or whatever. So like, what

963
00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you're actually saying then, is that you took out on

964
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>your children the problems that you had with their mothers

965
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 1>instead of compartmentalizing, dealing with the moms on the side

966
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and still making space and time for these children. Like

967
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that's your mistake, that's what you did. It wasn't the

968
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>onus of the The onness wasn't on the children to

969
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>reach out and maintain and manage these relationships. That is

970
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>on the parent every single time. So that's the first thing.

971
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 1>The second thing was was that this felt like a

972
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>private conversation, like Aspen was not on camera. There have

973
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 1>been other times that she could have brought it up

974
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>on camera, even to Christine, she has never done that.

975
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>She has been very reserved. And while she's been supportive

976
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of her mother and she's been there for her mother,

977
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 1>she's never trash Gody, not that I've seen at all.

978
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 1>This felt to me like he's recounting the details of

979
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 1>a private moment that Aspin tried to have with him,

980
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>which gives him the benefit of framing and contextualizing it

981
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>according to how he wants us to hear it, and

982
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 1>it takes that away from Aspen. And did Aspin even

983
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 1>want this out in the public square? Did she want

984
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 1>us knowing that? Very vulnerably she went to her father

985
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 1>and said, Daddy, why don't.

986
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You like me?

987
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't want that, I wouldn't want the raccoons

988
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 1>consuming that as trash if. I'm just trying to ask

989
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>my dad this vulnerable question, and yet he presents it

990
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 1>producing content again in this moment, and I'm just like,

991
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>oh God, that stinks too, Honey.

992
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 2>That's actually a really, really good point because Aspen is

993
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty private, like she doesn't really talk about this stuff.

994
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 2>We've seen Isabelle on camera express that she's upset with

995
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:41.480
<v Speaker 2>how Head's dad doesn't talk to her, doesn't engage in

996
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with her. But we haven't seen a lot

997
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of that from Aspen. And maybe there's footage of that

998
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that we that got edited out or something. I don't know,

999
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>but that's a really good point. I wonder how she

1000
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 2>feels about her dad talking about putting her on blasts

1001
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and talking about it with Robin of all people, when

1002
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I think assume most of the kids don't.

1003
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Really like this much because she's awful.

1004
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's very interesting and to your point, like Cody

1005
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 2>might be misrepresenting this whole conversation, like maybe it wasn't

1006
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.519
<v Speaker 2>that beautiful. Maybe Aspen didn't leave that conversation feeling like

1007
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 2>things were resolved or like she had her dad back

1008
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>in her corner. Maybe Cody's framing it like that because

1009
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.119
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to rehab his image to us and trying

1010
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to take responsibility or like be there for his kids

1011
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>when he when we know he isn't. And he even

1012
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>brings this up like he's like I was afraid to

1013
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>reach out. I felt like, what did he say? He

1014
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>felt discouraged to reach out to unwelcomed. Yeah, and I'm

1015
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>just like, really, yeah, really unwelcomed because apparently Aspen said, like,

1016
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I've never been unwelcoming to you, like I've always wanted

1017
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a relationship because I've never said anything bad about you

1018
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>a day in my life, right.

1019
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you don't. At that time in my life,

1020
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I was feeling unwelcome based on what was going on

1021
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 1>with these moms. And again, that's not the fault of

1022
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the child. Asking all of the other kids as well,

1023
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 1>other than the ones that you have with Robin, like, yep,

1024
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not their fault. You're the dad. You're the one

1025
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>who's supposed to be making building the bridges yet and

1026
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>making those connections.

1027
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's such an emotionally immature thing for him to say, like, well, unwelcomed.

1028
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>These are your kids, dude. They didn't ask to have

1029
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>their parents divorced. They didn't ask to even be on

1030
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>national TV and have their parents' divorce be projected to

1031
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the world and judged and nitpicked and

1032
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 2>analyzed and all this stuff. They just care about having

1033
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 2>their dad and their life right, and care about their

1034
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>dad being present in their life and asking them questions

1035
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and wanting to be involved. Right, but oh, okay, boo hoo,

1036
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 2>you felt unwelcomed because your ex wife left you, right,

1037
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>your kids didn't leave you. And that's the thing. Cody

1038
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>even admits that he assumed that the wives were just

1039
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 2>talking grab about him to the kids. And we have

1040
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 2>a scene with Christine being like, I've never done that,

1041
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 2>which I'm like, I feel like you did a little bit.

1042
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You certainly have on television. Yeah, and we presuppose that

1043
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>your children are probably watching these episodes well, and.

1044
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Like you're also calling up Michelte after your first date

1045
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 2>with David being like, does Tony make you feel supported?

1046
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>And Keelty's like yeah, and Christine's like, oh cool, like

1047
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>because that's how David makes me feel. And then Michelty

1048
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 2>makes the assumption like, oh, that's how dad never made

1049
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.800
<v Speaker 2>you feel. Like you are talking to your kids, You're

1050
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:35.239
<v Speaker 2>talking to the adult kids at least about your divorce

1051
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and how Cody made you feel, and you're saying all

1052
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 2>this stuff on camera for them to ultimately watch. Sure,

1053
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 2>like it is happening, But at the same time, Cody

1054
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 2>should not have assumed it, Like the saying like assuming

1055
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 2>makes an ass out of you and me, like you

1056
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have assumed that the wives were talking crap about

1057
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you and that the kids didn't want to see you.

1058
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Also, it doesn't matter even if these wives are talking

1059
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>bad about you, that doesn't change the fact that you

1060
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>should still be putting yourself in front of your kids, exactly.

1061
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even just to counter whatever these moms might

1062
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>be saying, like having your own life, having your own

1063
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship and connections with these kids that they can rely

1064
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 1>upon that. But your choice was just to ghost them.

1065
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>You just ghosted them and they never saw you again.

1066
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what it sounds like. So why aren't

1067
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>we taking responsibility for that? Even in your interstitial or

1068
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>out to dinner with Robin, why aren't you talking about

1069
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that you've done wrong? They're just so fucking vapid. Yep, Beatrice,

1070
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, yeah, it was a really sweet moment.

1071
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I told her I loved her, I love of course,

1072
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I love you.

1073
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

1074
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Ever, in that moment, Aspen needed and required so much

1075
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>more emotional support. But you're not capable of it because

1076
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.599
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing there except demonism exactly. And Robin's just sitting

1077
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 1>across the table, like, oh my god, sounds so great.

1078
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you go, Robin exactly? I mean, I thought

1079
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you were super close with Tony and mackelty and their twins.

1080
00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were there for the birth and everything.

1081
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Grant, none of them want to see you,

1082
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're the reason. I'm sure that they feel. The

1083
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 1>kids feel you're the reason that their family has blown up.

1084
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But for all of the love you say you have

1085
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>for all of these kids, and the devastation that you

1086
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>feel because your family's been torn apart, why aren't you

1087
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>there making overtures or trying to have relationships?

1088
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Like you guys are the grown adults here. I mean,

1089
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 2>I know the kids are adults too, but they're young

1090
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>adults like you guys are the old adults, like grow up,

1091
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>suck it up, be humble, but like they can never

1092
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.039
<v Speaker 2>they can never do that. And then we have this

1093
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 2>stupid conversation that's so scripted and dumb of Robin asking

1094
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Cody is one wife enough for you? Are you sure

1095
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:41.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to live polygamy anymore? And this was

1096
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 2>so dumb because obviously we know the answer.

1097
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Right and he said it a million times and we've

1098
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>already discussed this with you, Robin. And don't act like

1099
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you really want polygamy. I never really wanted polygamy. I've

1100
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>only ever really wanted Cody. Don't act disappointed that now

1101
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 1>you're a monogamous. This is what you've always wanted and

1102
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>now you have it. So here we are.

1103
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.719
<v Speaker 2>And she keeps talking about her faith like I'm scared

1104
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 2>of plural marriage. I don't know if I want to

1105
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 2>live in again, but it's a part of my faith. Like,

1106
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 2>shut up, you're the only one that's subscribing to the

1107
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 2>AUB stuff. I mean, I guess Mary is and Janelle

1108
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 2>kinda with the spiritual dumb I mean, I guess, but

1109
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 2>like Mary, Robbin's the only one that's saying she still

1110
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 2>believes in all this. But I'm like, you haven't been

1111
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 2>to the AUB church since you guys left Utah and

1112
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>seasoned Freaking one or two or wherever it was. Mmm,

1113
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 2>like miss me with this, I'm so tired of this conversation.

1114
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>And I don't believe anything you have to say. And

1115
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the reality is, and we're all in the reality TV

1116
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>cringe dumpster is we realize that if he did bring

1117
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a young Chippy home and wanted to have another wife

1118
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 1>introduced to the family. You would absolutely not put up

1119
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with that, and you would leave him. There's just no way.

1120
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:50.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no world in which you would ever let that happen.

1121
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>So stop lying. We all know this. Don't act like

1122
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't know this.

1123
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean for real. And then we end the episode

1124
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 2>with Cody and his interstitial reflecting on his comments that

1125
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>he made yes about never loving any of the OG

1126
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:09.079
<v Speaker 2>three women. And I thought this was really interesting because

1127
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's like genuine, but maybe it is.

1128
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>It was just weird how he brought it up, Like

1129
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 2>how he only said all of those things because he

1130
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>was angry and upset and like trying to shove off

1131
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 2>his feelings about all of these divorces and try to

1132
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 2>shift blame to like, oh, I just never loved any

1133
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of them. But then he says out of his mouth

1134
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the truth is that he did love them, and that

1135
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 2>he wishes nothing but the best for them.

1136
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess like that he would love if they could

1137
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.639
<v Speaker 1>be friendly. Yeah, at the end result of all of

1138
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this trap is that they could have friendships. Yeah. My

1139
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>vibe on that was that he is socially aware like

1140
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.119
<v Speaker 1>both Robin and him, and I wouldn't be surprised if

1141
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 1>they had like a PR crisis team or somebody counseling

1142
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:58.760
<v Speaker 1>them behind the scenes, Like you've got to address this,

1143
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't just say this crazy crap about these women.

1144
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you have to know how you're being perceived.

1145
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So I have a feeling that they do. Yeah, and

1146
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 1>so he's doing damage control in these moments. And of

1147
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>course you loved them. We all know that you loved them.

1148
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 1>We watched the show even in the beginning of the show.

1149
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 1>We're doing rewinds were season six. You were loving these women,

1150
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>so of course you did. And so now you're just

1151
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to repair your image.

1152
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and trying to again shift blame a little

1153
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.159
<v Speaker 2>bit and be like, oh, it's just angry. It's like,

1154
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 2>even if you're angry, you shouldn't be saying such awful,

1155
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>vile things on public television.

1156
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, they were trashing me, and so yeah, I trashed

1157
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>them too. Okay, don't really remember any of them out

1158
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and out trashing you. In fact, they seem like they

1159
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.679
<v Speaker 1>were being pretty delicate with how they were handling you

1160
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 1>until you were out here saying all this wild stuff

1161
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 1>about them. Then they're like, O goad, gloves off, We're

1162
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 1>just going to tell the truth. Then, okay, I just

1163
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. And even so they haven't been as

1164
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 1>hard on you as I would be in this moment,

1165
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:59.239
<v Speaker 1>even with Mary right, like she's still covering for you

1166
00:57:59.280 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to some degree.

1167
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:01.639
<v Speaker 2>They should be so much harder.

1168
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>They should be dragging you through to drag him, drag him.

1169
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. And you're lucky they are, because I

1170
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like they have I don't know, thirty years of

1171
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 2>stories that they could tell, indeed to make you look

1172
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 2>even worse of a person. But they're not. They're being

1173
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 2>very careful.

1174
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1175
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And so now he's also being careful. Oh, I only

1176
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:24.039
<v Speaker 2>saw those students because I'm mad.

1177
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.679
<v Speaker 1>And what did you think about him admitting that his

1178
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>identity was tied up in how they viewed him, and

1179
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.239
<v Speaker 1>them telling him that he's awesome, and them the wives

1180
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 1>telling their kids, your dad is awesome, and then his dad,

1181
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>his kids telling him you're an awesome dad, Like he

1182
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>was so invested in the perception of his family. Yes,

1183
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that was his whole identity.

1184
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>That was really interesting.

1185
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 1>That was truthful.

1186
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that was totally truthful, and it makes sense

1187
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>why he was so vitriolic and why he had such

1188
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a negative reaction, because his whole world kind of turned

1189
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 2>upside down, Like, especially when Christine left. I don't think,

1190
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and I've said this before, I don't think he was

1191
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>ever expecting Christine to be the first one to go.

1192
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he was hoping it was going to be married, yeah,

1193
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 2>and that maybe Janelle and Christine would just stay and

1194
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.679
<v Speaker 2>be platonic wives so he could keep their money and stuff. Like,

1195
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 2>he was never expecting this to happen. He wasn't expecting

1196
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 2>all three of them to leave in such a short

1197
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 2>period of time after each other. So like, I'm not

1198
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to justify Cody's actions because they were completely ross

1199
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and disgusting and despicable, But like it makes sense when

1200
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>he's saying that his whole identity was surrounded informed by

1201
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>everyone else thinking he was so awesome and.

1202
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Das sudden, all of those people. So the wives and

1203
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the children think that you're a piece of crack and

1204
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the whole world, And so I think what we witnessed

1205
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was his extinction burst, Like he could not handle how

1206
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 1>they felt about him, in addition to how the rest

1207
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 1>of us felt about him and how everybody's talking about

1208
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>him on social media, and he talks about how he

1209
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.599
<v Speaker 1>was in such a dark place that he even considered

1210
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 1>walking away from Robina was interesting. Yes, do we believe him?

1211
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1212
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe them, Okay, But why why would he ever

1213
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>do that? What else would he ever have outside of

1214
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>her and their life together?

1215
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he says it was self destruction, which I

1216
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 2>could see, but like it would have been really interesting,

1217
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like it was probably a manipulative tactic

1218
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.599
<v Speaker 2>that he employed on Robin. Maybe that's what he meant

1219
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.199
<v Speaker 2>by being unfair to her, like of him just being like, well.

1220
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fucking awful, and why don't you just leave

1221
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>me already? Right like that, maybe I'll leave you right? Yeah?

1222
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I bet they were fighting.

1223
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I think she was unhappy with him, and maybe

1224
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that informs even in these moments like when they're out

1225
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to dinner, like how she does feel energetically like a

1226
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>bit trepidacious around him and unsure.

1227
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>And see she feels unsafe because she.

1228
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Really doesn't know like are you better? Are you returning

1229
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to your old self? Like are we going to be? Okay?

1230
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Does not know?

1231
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Even then, I'm like watching them as a couple, like

1232
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 2>we've been watching them since the beginning, right, I'm like,

1233
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you guys are not the same as season one, and obviously,

1234
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:14.320
<v Speaker 2>like honeymoon phases, Dieter, like your relationship changes after you've

1235
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 2>been with each other for a long time. But I'm like,

1236
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't see the chemistry there as much anymore.

1237
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I see it on his side, I still feel like

1238
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.599
<v Speaker 1>he's sprung for her. Of course he's in love with her. Yes,

1239
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he thinks she's pretty. He wants to do all of

1240
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 1>these things for her, But like, I don't know that

1241
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.920
<v Speaker 1>she feels that for him.

1242
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, and like, how can your relationship really

1243
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 2>be the same after all of this, Like your whole

1244
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.920
<v Speaker 2>family's tarnish, your images are tarnished, And like, I don't

1245
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:44.960
<v Speaker 2>think Robin appreciates being the villain in the public eye.

1246
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:48.960
<v Speaker 2>It's why she's privatizing and deleting her Etsy accounts and

1247
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, being very secretive because she doesn't like all

1248
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of her dirty laundry.

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01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Being eared out right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, you're a terrible person, so that's what

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01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you get, you know. But I just wonder how long

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01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 2>this can really last, and maybe it will, maybe it

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01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:07.320
<v Speaker 2>will last, but whats what if they have to declare bankrupts.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, Like there's a lot of conversations

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01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 1>online around this kind of feeling like the last season

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01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of Sister Wife.

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01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very funny.

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01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to go from here? Like if

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01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we suddenly have a well adjusted Cody who's not raging

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01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and unhappy, and we still have Robin just hiding all

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01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the time, and like all this produced content and like

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01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the lives of the other women. I mean, we're happy

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01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>for you, but it's kind of boring. And what we're

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01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 1>getting is what Christine's giving. I don't want it so

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01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and this is such a long season. I know it's

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01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.519
<v Speaker 1>anomalous in that way, Like what if they are setting

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01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it up to close it down at the end of

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01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 1>season nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what will Cody and Robin behind you?

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have to sell a lot of cameos, a

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01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of cameos, and they're going to have to sell their.

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01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 1>House, yeah, and a lot of that artwork and that

1274
01:02:57.800 --> 01:02:59.880
<v Speaker 1>weird jewelry as well. Like they're going to have to

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01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 1>be some significant changes in their life, definitely, because that's

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01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 1>what a lot of people are feeling like and when

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01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you when they drop like trailers or whatever on TLC,

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01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:11.880
<v Speaker 1>or like scenes from the next week or whatever. Like

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01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the comments, honey are just like when is when are

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01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you getting these people off of our television? We don't

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01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 1>want to see this anymore? Like when is this? Wrap

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01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it up already?

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01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Straight up?

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01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:22.960
<v Speaker 1>What if they do?

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01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are we gonna do? There's no way

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01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have twenty more episodes in season twenty.

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01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Of what I like, what lawsuit?

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01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that would be interesting, but TLC's not gonna give

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01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 2>us that.

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01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, then you've got nothing exactly. You don't have anything then,

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01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 1>because like the only thing interesting about this season has

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 1>been Coyote passed of course, and obviously Mary leaving and

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01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.039
<v Speaker 1>all the women leaving and spiritually still things were interesting,

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01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 1>But so much of this season has been filler and unnecessary. Yep,

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01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and TLC obviously produces shows that are filler and unnecessary. Yes,

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01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:58.599
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't. I really don't know where we

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01:03:58.719 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 1>go from here.

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01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:01.280
<v Speaker 2>No. A lot of people are so tired of it.

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01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are like, I don't even watch

1302
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.719
<v Speaker 2>this season anymore, Like I don't even care.

1303
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I just watched the recaps.

1304
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they're just watching podcasts like ours because they

1305
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.800
<v Speaker 2>just don't want to be bothered by it. So I

1306
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:13.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it'll be interesting to see what they do

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01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 2>in these tell alls and stuff and in these next

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01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 2>coming episodes.

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01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, even the preview for next week is boring. Af

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01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 1>We've got Mary talking about dating.

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01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm like, ugh, what.

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01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Was the other thing?

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01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:25.719
<v Speaker 2>It was?

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01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Mary talking about dating dating?

1315
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 2>She says people are uninterested in her because of her background.

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01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 2>And then we have Christine saying her and David fight sometime.

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01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Cares like nobody because But then they don't show the

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01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.800
<v Speaker 2>preview for what next week's episode's gonna be about, which

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01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>is addressing Garrison.

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01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:46.840
<v Speaker 1>But is it, like yeah, because we only see that

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01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.039
<v Speaker 1>on the TLC like Instagram page.

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01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said next Sunday.

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01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why didn't they show that in the preview? And

1324
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>are you telling me, Beatrice? Are you telling me that

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01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have an episode where we finally talk about

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01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Garrison's unfortunate passing and how this impacts the family. We're

1327
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have Janelle crying, yeah, and then we're gonna cut

1328
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to David Woolley climbing over a fence, or we're gonna

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01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.159
<v Speaker 1>cut to Mary dating. Yeah, in the same episode. Yeah,

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01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.679
<v Speaker 1>that is so inappropriate, it's horrible. That is really not

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01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the way to do it. No, I sure hope it

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01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:20.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go down like that.

1333
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:22.719
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna go down like that.

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01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be a separate episode. You don't

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01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be in the same episode.

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01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be in the same episode.

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01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we'll get to that next week. And speaking

1339
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 2>of next week, Yeah, I'm going.

1340
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.880
<v Speaker 1>To Colorado, Yeah this weekend, this weekend, So.

1341
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna slide next week's podcasts just a little day later.

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01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Just one day. So typically we released to the General

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01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Pod on Wednesdays at twelve thirty, whether that's on YouTube

1344
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 1>or your favorite podcast platform. If you're on Patreon, you

1345
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 1>get it the day before. But next week it's gonna

1346
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.000
<v Speaker 1>be one day late. So General Pod.

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01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Will be out, YouTube will be out on Thursday, and

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01:05:57.639 --> 01:05:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we're covering a new show next week.

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01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You're covering poly Family.

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01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1351
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I almost called it the other thing I call it,

1352
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:04.960
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to say it.

1353
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it.

1354
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:07.320
<v Speaker 2>We're going to call it family.

1355
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna Polly Family. We're gonna be covering that starting

1356
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.039
<v Speaker 1>next week, although later this week we are going to

1357
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 1>have a preliminary poly Family conversation in which we give

1358
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.280
<v Speaker 1>our fake psychic predictions about what's going to happen in

1359
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 1>this season and I'm excited about it. We're all going

1360
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 1>to be talking about speak pipes and we all been

1361
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.519
<v Speaker 1>calling in you' all have some thoughts. We're going to

1362
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:26.920
<v Speaker 1>cover that later this week, but next week we'll be

1363
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.159
<v Speaker 1>a day late. Yes, sorry about be sorry about a

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01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 1>party or whatever for in Coloradi go into a wedding. Fun.

1365
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to party.

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01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, be just is there anything else that we need

1367
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up

1368
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 1>on out of here?

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01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your

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01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 2>favorite podcast platform and leave us a glowing five story review.

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01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Really helps us grow the pod some more people can

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01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:54.280
<v Speaker 2>join us on the dumpster and we really appreciate it with.

1373
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Bank you and like I said, we will be back

1374
01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:59.840
<v Speaker 1>later this week to talk poly Family and take your

1375
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.639
<v Speaker 1>bag pipe calls. Also, if you are one of the

1376
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 1>vip raccoons in the Patreon dumpster, stay tuned to this

1377
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:10.639
<v Speaker 1>episode because we're going to continue our conversation and we're

1378
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 1>going to discuss that jewelry that Robin got for a

1379
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, so hang on for that, but for everybody else,

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01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 1>please do not forget that we have nothing but love

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<v Speaker 1>for you and peace. A bye guys,