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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this episode, I have to
Speaker 1: ask you, Beatrice, do you have any takeaways? Like when
Speaker 1: you when you turned it off okay and you took
Speaker 1: your deep breaths, you struck your meditative pose and you
Speaker 1: calmed down a little. Huh, what was your thought? What
Speaker 1: was your late vibe?
Speaker 2: My general vite? But this week was that I feel
Speaker 2: like Robin is getting kind of tired of Cody. Like
Speaker 2: their Valentine's Day date was super awkward, and she just
Speaker 2: looked like she was not happy to be there. Maybe
Speaker 2: she ran out of ambien, I don't know. Like she
Speaker 2: was looking a little ragged, her hair was looking a
Speaker 2: little old.
Speaker 1: I did clock some grays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, I don't care like grays are cool.
Speaker 2: I'm not shaman the grays. But I'm just like, Robin
Speaker 2: is always super put together. Her hair is always turbo died,
Speaker 2: her makeup is always turbo done. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: she looks pretty right.
Speaker 1: It's not done well. None of it is done well.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is done.
Speaker 2: Up, put together. She's normally a little bit chipper in
Speaker 2: her interactions with Cody. I know it's Robin, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like this Valdine's date eate, Like when he
Speaker 2: gives her the jewelry, which we'll talk about later, she
Speaker 2: just looked like things like mine.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I guess I didn't really pick up on that.
Speaker 2: That was my ebe.
Speaker 1: That whole thing felt very scripted to me, but we
Speaker 1: will talk about it when we get to that heart.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Interesting. Indeed, my major takeaway was that Janelle
Speaker 1: she's one of us.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: When Janelle opened up her meals to call out Robin
Speaker 1: as a Diesel jeans model, I'm like, does she watch
Speaker 1: our podcast?
Speaker 2: I know, does she watch.
Speaker 1: This podcast too? I'm thank you for calling it out. Oh,
Speaker 1: And then you had to think in your I thought
Speaker 1: in my brain, in my small little pea raccoon brain,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Robin's gonna watch this back,
Speaker 1: oh for sure, and she's gonna hear that. And she
Speaker 1: probably already knows that. All of us on the internets
Speaker 1: we say that all the time about her and her
Speaker 1: break dancing pussy as well. So I'm just wondering what
Speaker 1: Robin is going to think hearing that. And for the record,
Speaker 1: I do not believe that Robin ever modeled anything a
Speaker 1: day in her life. Now correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: because I'm frequently wrong. But I don't think she ever
Speaker 1: was a Diesel jeans model. I don't think either. Maybe
Speaker 1: she pair. I don't think she was.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe she was, you know, like like you go
Speaker 2: on like a crappy commercial, Like maybe she was like
Speaker 2: one of those people were an extra on.
Speaker 1: Maybe like at the mall one Sunday there was like
Speaker 1: a fashion show in Utah, Utah, she was like wearing
Speaker 1: some Diesel jean. There's just no way I think she
Speaker 1: tried on some Diesel jeans. She came out of the
Speaker 1: bedroom and she said, Chlody, do you like these? And
Speaker 1: that's the extent of her modeling career.
Speaker 2: There's just no way, no, no, there has to be
Speaker 2: no way. And like we've all been talking about her
Speaker 2: being a Diesel Jeans model, like Reddit has been saying
Speaker 2: it too, Like so maybe Jane, Yeah it's a raccoon.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's on the internet and she's listened to podcasts
Speaker 2: like ours, which I would love. I do you know,
Speaker 2: I do you know?
Speaker 1: Sorry about everything, but Hi, we love you and we
Speaker 1: dan we do stand you. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: such a great comment. And I live, I breathe, I laugh,
Speaker 1: I love I love it too, love it so much. Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: is there anything else that we want to talk about?
Speaker 1: I know we want to talk about the jewelry at
Speaker 1: the Valentine's dinner, but we'll do that during the scene
Speaker 1: or maybe afterwards. Yeah, like maybe we'll do it like
Speaker 1: a Patreon exclusive because I have some things to say.
Speaker 1: I have some thought me too that and I do
Speaker 1: want to dive in and we'll do it at the
Speaker 1: back end.
Speaker 2: At the end the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well let's get into this episode. We are
Speaker 1: in season nineteen. This was episode twenty two. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: due two twenty Two's in my Shoes, Holly if you
Speaker 1: need me love, I'm in the house anyway. So what
Speaker 1: was the name of this one?
Speaker 2: Love covers all Wrongs. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Well, it is a scripture. I think the scripture reads
Speaker 1: love covers the multitude of sins? Okay, And I'm wondering
Speaker 1: what this might be in reference to. Is it in
Speaker 1: reference to Cody and Robin's love covering the multitude of
Speaker 1: their wrongs? Because somehow I don't think ew the producers
Speaker 1: would do that, but their love is not pure.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Christine and David's love.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe because she does talk about her confidence taking
Speaker 1: a huge hit and how now basking in the love
Speaker 1: of David Woolliet's changed her life. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but we'll get into it. We will get into starts
Speaker 1: off Beatrice.
Speaker 2: Well, we started off strong with Mary and Janelle on
Speaker 2: Coyote Pass talking about lawyering up and the division of
Speaker 2: Coyote Pass. And this was a really interesting conversation. It
Speaker 2: was really interesting to see Janelle and Mary talk about
Speaker 2: this so candidly because they're kind of going into Cody
Speaker 2: and Robin a little bit. And even Mary is speaking
Speaker 2: up and talking about how unfair. It is that Cody
Speaker 2: and Robin think that they can just get away with everything,
Speaker 2: get away with the land, get away with all the
Speaker 2: money that her and Janelle contributed to. Like, so it
Speaker 2: was really interesting. What did you think about this whole conversation.
Speaker 1: I thought there were many compelling facets from the actual
Speaker 1: contribution for Coyote Pass, the spiritual release slash divorce conversation
Speaker 1: about Janelle and Mary and their relationship. Like, I thought
Speaker 1: that there were some really cool moments. But I just
Speaker 1: loved that they were getting in the ass of Cody
Speaker 1: and Robin because they did contribute to that property, of course,
Speaker 1: and it was the last Thanksgiving. We've got Mary coming
Speaker 1: over with her final check presumably to pay for her
Speaker 1: quarter of all this property, and so them bitching about
Speaker 1: Cody not answering them, like not just having the decency,
Speaker 1: And I think Janelle refers to this as just regular
Speaker 1: regular human decency to just respond or to just let
Speaker 1: us know what's going on, because we're trying to cut
Speaker 1: cords here, we're trying to get what is ours, and
Speaker 1: you won't even talk to us. I was just like, ooh,
Speaker 1: And then when they cut to Cody and Cody said
Speaker 1: something like, we actually paid one hundred and sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars more than they did. I was like, that's because
Speaker 1: you are the owner of more than fifty percent at
Speaker 1: the time. That's because you both are a couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so of course for your shares, you're gonna be paying more.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, of course? But even then, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're paying that with the family money, which was contributed
Speaker 2: by TLC and Janelle and Mary's paychecks and probably Christine's too.
Speaker 2: Christine probably was putting into that post absolutely, but then
Speaker 2: when she divorced from Cody, she was like, I don't
Speaker 2: even care. I just want to be done and clear
Speaker 2: of all of my ties to you because dealing with
Speaker 2: financial stuff, she says later in the episode, sucks. Dealing
Speaker 2: with Cody with finances sucks. So it was really interesting
Speaker 2: this whole thing. And like Janelle said, the only reason
Speaker 2: why she got a lawyer was because Cody was not
Speaker 2: responding to emails, and Mary same thing. She's like, my
Speaker 2: communication is null, Like I don't get to talk to Cody,
Speaker 2: he doesn't respond to me. He's not telling me what
Speaker 2: we're doing with any of this, And Cody panned to
Speaker 2: him His justification for this is, well, I just don't
Speaker 2: know what to do. I'm not responding because I don't
Speaker 2: know what. I don't know, you know what to do.
Speaker 2: I'm like, be a grown up, dude. You have your
Speaker 2: name on all of these plots. These women are trying
Speaker 2: to get out. They're leaving your ass because you don't
Speaker 2: want them anyway.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: And they want to get out and that's fair. But
Speaker 2: Cody's like, I don't know what to do. Jane feels
Speaker 2: like she's owed something because she's divorcing me.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's how divorce works. Hello, you walk away
Speaker 1: from the marriage and you're entitled to your share of
Speaker 1: whatever you have built in that marriage. So Janelle absolutely
Speaker 1: has the right to have an expectation to receive fairly
Speaker 1: what she put into this. Yes, but like the way
Speaker 1: that he frames it and when he says I think
Speaker 1: something along the lines of like, Robin is the one
Speaker 1: who's not ready yet to sell Coyote Pass, and I'm
Speaker 1: just not going to let these women rush Robin, Like,
Speaker 1: when she's ready, we will sell. I'm like, I'm sorry, sir,
Speaker 1: but I can acquire an attorney and we can put
Speaker 1: this in front of a judge and we can compel
Speaker 1: you to sail. Yeah, because I'm a part owner. So
Speaker 1: it's just like a power it's a constant power play.
Speaker 1: And he likes to pretend that he doesn't want these
Speaker 1: women anyway, although he changes his tune at the end
Speaker 1: of this episode and that was interesting. But he likes
Speaker 1: to pretend that he doesn't want these women anyway. But
Speaker 1: the reality is, is he so turbo butt hurt that
Speaker 1: they have the audacity, especially Janelle, to walk away from him,
Speaker 1: and so he's just going to make it as painful
Speaker 1: as possible. Oh of course, hold on all right, back
Speaker 1: from Uncensored, my whole spin came and brought me a
Speaker 1: very tall alcoholic beverage. So we'll see how I last tonight,
Speaker 1: was I saying, was I talking most talking about Coney? Yeah,
Speaker 1: being turbo butt her? Yes, because these women had the
Speaker 1: audacity to leave him, and so he's doing a power
Speaker 1: play and making it as hard as he can.
Speaker 2: And even Janelle calls that out. She says that she
Speaker 2: thinks his ego is hurt by all of this and
Speaker 2: that's why he's acting like a big baby. Mary is
Speaker 2: like straight up mad. She's in her angry phase. Of like,
Speaker 2: why does it even have to be this way? Like Mary,
Speaker 2: even so in this conversation, she's like, I really thought
Speaker 2: that Cody was going to be better about this, which
Speaker 2: is kind of sad that she even thinks that, because
Speaker 2: it shows Mary's loyalty and it shows her faith in
Speaker 2: Cody as like being a good person. And it's sad
Speaker 2: that she thinks that because we're all sitting here screaming
Speaker 2: into the void about how Cody's demon possessed.
Speaker 1: Right and awful. And it was just a few months
Speaker 1: previous to this that he's clutching on to her, he's
Speaker 1: depositing her in pariwan Utah after driving her uhau and crying,
Speaker 1: sobbing about the end of an era. And so she
Speaker 1: thought I think she definitely thought that they could be
Speaker 1: friends and that they could conduct themselves like with integrity.
Speaker 1: But as soon as he got back to Flagstaff, I
Speaker 1: think he ghosted her and he never ever wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to her again. And then of course there was
Speaker 1: the crushing shame that came along with the spiritual release
Speaker 1: and the determination that he abandoned Mary, like he can't
Speaker 1: I cannot handle that, he can't handle any of this
Speaker 1: that's why he's not responding to any of their emails
Speaker 1: or messages, because he just doesn't want to deal with it.
Speaker 1: It's not that he doesn't know what to do, he
Speaker 1: just wants to avoid it and wants to act like
Speaker 1: it never happened. And like, Janelle is really cool here
Speaker 1: because she is advocating for not only herself but for Mary,
Speaker 1: and she's expressing to Mary over and over again in
Speaker 1: this conversation that she feels so bad for Mary being
Speaker 1: on a third of one plot, like she doesn't even
Speaker 1: have her name on a full plot, and that sucks
Speaker 1: because she's in kind of the worst position here. Janelle's
Speaker 1: not in a good position either, but she's in a
Speaker 1: better position.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 1: She doesn't really have to help Mary, but she's doing it.
Speaker 1: And if they join forces together, they can really compel
Speaker 1: them to give them something that's fair. But like without
Speaker 1: each other, they really don't stand that kind of a chance.
Speaker 1: Probably it'll be harder and they would have to have
Speaker 1: attorneys and they'd have to litigate the heck out of this.
Speaker 2: Yep. And this is also where we hear from Janelle
Speaker 2: that Cody's always been like this and she should have
Speaker 2: saw it coming. She should have seen this whole situation
Speaker 2: coming and she didn't. And Mary advocates and is like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you can say you're naive, but like, we
Speaker 2: actually thought Cody was going to be a good guy.
Speaker 2: We thought that he cared about the whole family, and
Speaker 2: it turns out he didn't. And then Janelle tells an
Speaker 2: interesting story about how she had to pay off all
Speaker 2: of her debt on her own and this debt is
Speaker 2: what she took out to actually take care and support.
Speaker 1: The family in Lehigh.
Speaker 2: And then I guess when Robin sold her house in
Speaker 2: Vegas or no, when she had her house in Vegas
Speaker 2: or was it the house here in Flagstaff.
Speaker 1: I think it was the house in Vegas that Cody
Speaker 1: was talking about, like the proceeds of that sale went
Speaker 1: toward family debt.
Speaker 2: Right, which I'm like, I don't. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I think it went to Robin's dead. I don't think
Speaker 2: it went to family debt. And then Janelle talked about
Speaker 2: wanting to be on the indeed for one of Robin's houses.
Speaker 2: I think it was maybe the flag Staff house.
Speaker 1: It's the first manage mansion, it's the McMansion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Cody said no because Robin needs her estate.
Speaker 1: Right, and Janelle should have said in that moment, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have an estate. I have nothing. I just
Speaker 1: sold my house and I just gave you the proceeds
Speaker 1: of that sale so that Robin could have this McMansion.
Speaker 1: So if you put my name, in Mary's name, in
Speaker 1: Robin's name on this house, then we all have part
Speaker 1: of that estate.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Like, there were so many critical points in the process
Speaker 1: over the years where they should have said something. I
Speaker 1: thought it was very fascinating that Mary claims to have
Speaker 1: said something and asked questions about like why are you
Speaker 1: putting your name on all of the plots or why
Speaker 1: are we doing it this way? And when she said
Speaker 1: something like that, she got some pushback from a couple
Speaker 1: of people in the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, she got in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said she's so from who So obviously Cody.
Speaker 1: Of course, Cody would not look like that, and I
Speaker 1: imagine Robin would be the other person.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. But I feel like Robin probably wasn't
Speaker 2: like outwardly mad, but she manipulated it and twisted it
Speaker 2: into this situation of like, no, you're not being fair
Speaker 2: you're not being a team player, because I think Janelle
Speaker 2: mentions that too, Like any time they ever had any
Speaker 2: kind of pushback about these weird financial decisions that they
Speaker 2: were making, you know, Cody would say, you're not being
Speaker 2: a team player, right, basically, shut up and stop dissenting because.
Speaker 1: We're going to do it my way and I'm the patriarch.
Speaker 1: I actually wondered in that moment if the person who
Speaker 1: like gave some resistance to Mary was Janelle, because Janelle
Speaker 1: said something in that conversation like, yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: just kind of had to fall into line or something
Speaker 1: like that, like we couldn't be really loud about it,
Speaker 1: we couldn't really make a fuss about it. I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Mary's calling you out a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I just can't I don't know, I just can't
Speaker 1: imagine that Janelle, with all of her financial acumen, would
Speaker 1: have a problem with Mary saying can we get some transparency?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Can we figure out a strategy? Like why are we
Speaker 1: doing it this way? I don't understand, and I have
Speaker 1: every right to since I am paying in that eminently
Speaker 1: reasonable yep, But if it wasn't Janelle then it was
Speaker 1: Robin and Cody, Oh that gave Mary a hard time,
Speaker 1: which is just wild to me. So Mary's being bullied
Speaker 1: during this time, being bullied to hand over money. So
Speaker 1: is Janelle, And what does she get for doing all that?
Speaker 1: She gets ghosted and flag staff during a global pandemic
Speaker 1: and has nobody, no one, not a one.
Speaker 2: Not a one. And then when they're trying to divide
Speaker 2: Coyote Pass fairly and equally, they're not getting any communication
Speaker 2: from Cody or Robin. And then Cody's telling the cameras
Speaker 2: that Robin doesn't want to sell, so we can't rush
Speaker 2: it because apparently what Robin dictates poor little questions. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing, like, that's what Cody's telling on himself
Speaker 2: and telling on Robin here. When he's saying that, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so now we know, yeah, all you care about is Robin.
Speaker 2: And Cody even says something crazy like you know, when
Speaker 2: he's talking about Janelle being entitled to something, He's like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't have an estate. My only estate is Robin's estate,
Speaker 2: Like okay, got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're tied to that, right, and you're trying
Speaker 1: to say you don't have anything, but I just love
Speaker 1: After we have this whole conversation and then they pan
Speaker 1: over to them with Ariella's vanity and Earl the crap
Speaker 1: in their house after he's talking about how he doesn't
Speaker 1: have anything, and it's all really Robin's I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, all the artwork, all the statues, all
Speaker 1: the crystals, all the things, it is. It is wild.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yes.
Speaker 1: And also I'm sorry, no, go ahead jumping on you,
Speaker 1: but him saying the line again and I'm just repeating myself,
Speaker 1: but the audacity to say, like, I mean, Janelle expects
Speaker 1: something after thirty years of marriage, she expects to walk
Speaker 1: away with something when you're the one who walked away
Speaker 1: when we all know, Cody you pushed these women away,
Speaker 1: of course you did. But you're singling out Janelle here
Speaker 1: because again, Janelle is the one that got away.
Speaker 2: For Cody, definitely. And also she was the one that
Speaker 2: he I think pressured a lot more into financial stuff,
Speaker 2: like if she had to take on what probably thousands
Speaker 2: upon thousands of dollars of debt just to support the family,
Speaker 2: because maybe nobody else was willing to do that, who knows,
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. Yeah, she's entitled to one parcel, like
Speaker 2: we even entitled so much more of course, of course,
Speaker 2: but like in the respect of Coyote Pass, like she's
Speaker 2: entitled to it.
Speaker 1: She's not asking for a lot, No.
Speaker 2: She's just entre She's just asking for her fair share.
Speaker 2: And like we even Panna Christine being like, I'm so
Speaker 2: glad I'm out of Coyote Pass, Like I really hope
Speaker 2: they will divide it equally four ways. But if I
Speaker 2: know Cody, like, it's not going to happen that way.
Speaker 2: And we know because we've seen how the parcels were
Speaker 2: kind of divided up. It wasn't really divided up like
Speaker 2: we all thought it would be. People's names got switched
Speaker 2: on to it. Whatever. I don't know how they divided
Speaker 2: the proceeds from the one point five million dollars sale
Speaker 2: of all of it, but hopefully everybody got their fair
Speaker 2: share and they're done and over with it and cut
Speaker 2: off their ties. What did you think about the whole
Speaker 2: spiritual divorce conversation.
Speaker 1: I loved this because on the one hand, we have
Speaker 1: Janelle doing Mary a solid by aligning herself for their
Speaker 1: financial interests, aligning themselves together, and then it's not really
Speaker 1: a quid pro quo. Mary's not doing this for Janelle
Speaker 1: because she owes her anything, but I loved seeing her say, well,
Speaker 1: I'll show up for you. And they have the conversation
Speaker 1: about the spiritual release, and we start by Mary saying
Speaker 1: something like, yeah, oh God. Godi was really upset about that.
Speaker 1: He didn't like how that went down, so they talked
Speaker 1: about it a little. But then we kind of got
Speaker 1: into Janelle's present faith and how she feels about a
Speaker 1: spiritual release, and she makes it very clear that she's
Speaker 1: not in the same situation as Christine. Now, Christine by
Speaker 1: this point has abandoned her faith. I don't know about
Speaker 1: her LDS, her Mormonism, her mainstream general stuff, but certainly
Speaker 1: the AUB she's no longer a part of that. But
Speaker 1: she did not feel the need to get a spiritual release.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not married to this man. Legally I
Speaker 1: can move on and I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: But Janelle is saying that she actually is still part
Speaker 1: of the Face and she still does believe in their
Speaker 1: doctrines and their tenants, and in the future, if she
Speaker 1: meets somebody, presumably someone who aligns with her faith, like
Speaker 1: is she going to feel like, well, I've got this
Speaker 1: other marriage, this spiritual marriage, kind of hanging over my head,
Speaker 1: so do I want to get it? So the conversation
Speaker 1: that ensues from that, I thought was really cool to
Speaker 1: see these women who have been through so much life
Speaker 1: together and had ups and they had a lot of downs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Mary saying like, oh, I'll go with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do it together, and that was so awesome,
Speaker 1: you know, and we can have a separate conversation like
Speaker 1: not on camera, where I can tell you what is
Speaker 1: involved and you can make the decision. So I just
Speaker 1: thought that was really wonderful personally, really.
Speaker 2: Cool, and I liked how Mary was still like validating
Speaker 2: the spiritual part of it, like telling Janelle like, well,
Speaker 2: you were married that way for thirty years and so
Speaker 2: it is valid, and like, if you want to get
Speaker 2: the spiritual release, freaking do it so that way you
Speaker 2: have no more ties to Cody at all. And I
Speaker 2: think that is what appeals to Janelle ultimately, because prior
Speaker 2: to this, she was like kind of like I don't
Speaker 2: really care, Like I'm done with Cody, I've already left.
Speaker 2: I'm in North Carolina now, Like it doesn't matter. But
Speaker 2: in this conversation, Janelle starts being like, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 2: like I don't want any more ties, not even a
Speaker 2: spiritual one, and she brings up God and she's like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to upset God either if I'm like
Speaker 2: still spiritually tied to him. I think she says something
Speaker 2: like I believe in everything in my faith except for polygamy,
Speaker 2: Like she no longer believes in that anymore, which was
Speaker 2: kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: I see her going back to just mainstream LDS yep
Speaker 1: and just being a regular, regular, more Mormon, but the
Speaker 1: faith is still very important to her. And I really
Speaker 1: appreciated the conversation about the afterlife. Yeah, and like what happens.
Speaker 1: And Mary was still so charitable because she talks about
Speaker 1: Cody not wanting to be tied to her in the afterlife,
Speaker 1: and so she wants to make sure he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be. But at the same time, she does not
Speaker 1: want to be tied to that man either. And at
Speaker 1: this time, the time of this filming, Mary is dreaming
Speaker 1: of the next chapter, the next romance, the next person,
Speaker 1: and she wants that very much for herself. So she
Speaker 1: just wants to clean this late and she wants to
Speaker 1: set up her life in the physical and also in
Speaker 1: the eternal, which is such a cool little snapshot into
Speaker 1: Mormonism for those of us who are not part of
Speaker 1: the religion totally.
Speaker 2: And I do like the subtle, like passive aggressiveness of
Speaker 2: getting the spiritual divorce because Cody doesn't really subscribe to
Speaker 2: as church anymore, doesn't really care.
Speaker 1: About babe too, sometimes only.
Speaker 2: When it's convenient, right, but like it's I feel like
Speaker 2: they like the idea of the spiritual divorce too, because
Speaker 2: it requires the church leaders calling up Cody and being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you abandoned Mary. We're giving her the divorce on the
Speaker 2: grounds of abandonment, which hang up.
Speaker 1: He is still piss Even at the time of the
Speaker 1: filming of his interstitials, which I imagine is probably over a
Speaker 1: year after the fact, he's still mad about it, and
Speaker 1: he tells us on the couch, He's like, well, you know, essentially,
Speaker 1: Mary's lucky I didn't show up and you know, testify
Speaker 1: as to why this marriage broke down, because if I did,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been able to give her the spiritual release.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Like okay, Cody, whatever, So what is.
Speaker 2: It you wanted? To be involved, so that way they
Speaker 2: didn't say that you abandon your wives because you hate
Speaker 2: the word abandonment. Or is it that they would just
Speaker 2: not grant the release, like he's trying to say, if
Speaker 2: you're a man in the church, they won't grant your release,
Speaker 2: but a woman can go to the church leader and
Speaker 2: they'll give her a release no matter what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't he's trying to say, like if I
Speaker 1: told them all the things Mary actually did to me,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't grant her the release. I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. The fact that she's asking for it sounds
Speaker 1: like all she that's all she needs to do, and
Speaker 1: she's going to get it. You're just bitter and unhappy
Speaker 1: because you got called out in your religion. And that's
Speaker 1: the only reason you're no longer a part of that
Speaker 1: religion is because they called you out and they said
Speaker 1: you abandon these women. If they were still holding you
Speaker 1: up as some kind of a polygamous prize, you would
Speaker 1: still be aligned with that religion. It's all about your narcissism, yeah,
Speaker 1: and your ego.
Speaker 2: And he can't handle failure, like he's been a failure
Speaker 2: as a husband. He's been a failure as a father,
Speaker 2: he's a failure as a polygonist, like, as a business person,
Speaker 2: as a perspider, yep, as a guy with hair, like.
Speaker 1: He's a failure on every level.
Speaker 2: So you just can't handle it. So that's why he's
Speaker 2: pissed off about it. But I love it. I'm like
Speaker 2: wallow in it. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just to me, it seems like it
Speaker 1: would be so easy to be like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: really bad at the end. Yeah, again, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to see any of these women and I was happy
Speaker 1: to just spend time with Robin. Obviously, I am more
Speaker 1: inclined to monogamy at this stage in my life, and
Speaker 1: I could have been a better husband, And yeah I
Speaker 1: did abandon her, Like how hard would that be to
Speaker 1: just tell the truth? Why are you still trying to
Speaker 1: lie and put on airs because you can't handle it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, is it because he
Speaker 1: can't handle it like internally or is it because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to appear that way to us we already
Speaker 1: see you though?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I think it's both. Like if he's
Speaker 2: a true narcissist, like narcissism is a giant cope of
Speaker 2: like you can't deal with shame, you can't be a failure,
Speaker 2: and so you overinflate your ego for everybody else. Like
Speaker 2: he puts on this air for everyone else that he's
Speaker 2: this rich guy, he still has hair, he's a good husband,
Speaker 2: he's a good dad. But we all know the truth
Speaker 2: and it's just a giant cope. So like I think
Speaker 2: he can't deal with it inside and he's putting on
Speaker 2: ears for everybody else.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's like it's sad. It's got to be
Speaker 1: a sad way to live.
Speaker 2: Seriously, it's pathetic.
Speaker 1: It'd be so much easier to just tell the truth.
Speaker 1: And like there's so much power in like owning your mistakes, right,
Speaker 1: your failures. Yeah, like that's the phoenix rising from the
Speaker 1: ashes ironically. Seriously, Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 2: With Rob And it's like if you just told the truth.
Speaker 2: Just can't yeah, because she can't be the villain, even
Speaker 2: though we all know she is the villain.
Speaker 1: And in her attempts to try and appear as not
Speaker 1: the villain, she embeds herself even more as the villain.
Speaker 1: Like when we get to the conversation when they go
Speaker 1: out to dinner and we talk about Aspen and the
Speaker 1: way she's just editing, the way that Cody's talking, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, don't even get me started. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get there when we get there, but I'm just like,
Speaker 1: she's the villain. She is one villain evil yeap. And
Speaker 1: then we pan over to like this weird little segment
Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day with Christine and her girls Aspen and Mchelty.
Speaker 1: I am a broken record and so I don't want
Speaker 1: to visit upon you. Just my absolute rejection of Mchelte.
Speaker 1: She was so annoying in entirety. But I'm just like,
Speaker 1: here we go again with this weird energy, just grasping
Speaker 1: for the limelight, grasping for a moment. It is so
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to me. I'm truly in this moment. I'm like
Speaker 1: me too. Bye, I'm going back to my room. Y'all
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do with your sexy dancing.
Speaker 1: And we had to go back to the lap dance.
Speaker 1: I know why I had to go back. We have
Speaker 1: to go back to I don't know why why Christine
Speaker 1: to be a sexual being. I love that she's getting
Speaker 1: loved down by David Wily, but do we really need
Speaker 1: her to pan to mind a strip teas trying on
Speaker 1: a red dread. Do we really need to harken back
Speaker 1: to the wedding and the lap dance?
Speaker 2: No, we do not know.
Speaker 1: This is a completely superfluous, unnecessary segment, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Low key inappropriate because truly's there and she's freaking fourteen,
Speaker 2: and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, please don't, like, could you not? Though?
Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about mom being sexy in
Speaker 2: front of me? Like that's gross. Like it's one thing
Speaker 2: with Mikeltine Aspen, who are grown adults like they have
Speaker 2: their own children, it's another with Truly right there. And
Speaker 2: then Christine makes a comment about Truly already has to
Speaker 2: live with newlyweds and she doesn't like it very much,
Speaker 2: which I'm like, does that mean because you're banging a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably that's gross when you're probably kissing and you're very
Speaker 1: demonstrative and affectionate, and that's okay, certainly, Sure, it's okay
Speaker 1: in moderation, let's say, but like, is she hearing stuff?
Speaker 2: Probably no, And that's what makes me mad about it.
Speaker 2: I've talked about it before on the.
Speaker 1: Podcast You have pis it does it's inappropriate, but like
Speaker 1: michelt walked in with that energy. It's just like talking
Speaker 1: about Aspen's plans for later in the day. I just like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have sex and what are you doing? Kelthy?
Speaker 1: Just be a normal person. You don't have to fill
Speaker 1: every moment with your words and with your energy. Just like,
Speaker 1: back off the Aspen in this.
Speaker 2: Moment, I know, just chill out.
Speaker 1: Why it down. I can't stand her and even Christine,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Aspen's Hair's just always too much. These
Speaker 1: people are too much.
Speaker 2: This is where Michelta gets it from. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: low key.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why we talk about person.
Speaker 2: Christine being kind of annoying. It's because m Chelty is annoying.
Speaker 2: Like they feed off of each other and like they're
Speaker 2: obviously best friends and that's great, but like I don't
Speaker 2: need to see Michelty.
Speaker 1: I don't need to see it either. It's like Christine,
Speaker 1: Peyden and Michelty are all very similar personality wise, and
Speaker 1: you've got Aspen and Gwendolen and then you have Aspen,
Speaker 1: Isabelle and Truly who are just like trying to be
Speaker 1: like in the background, like just please don't look at me,
Speaker 1: don't personally refer to me. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: Shot, yep, and that's me.
Speaker 1: That's me in that moment as well. I don't need this.
Speaker 2: Don't look at me.
Speaker 1: So Christine's really excited because it's the first Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: celebration since they got married. Well, they're going to be
Speaker 1: going out, so she's called her daughters over, both of
Speaker 1: whom have such beautiful hair at goals for real, just
Speaker 1: and you know, objectively. Aspen and Michelty are both beautiful
Speaker 1: young ladies. Yes, totally and the pride I'm sure of
Speaker 1: Christine their mother. But she's called them over so that
Speaker 1: she can try on dresses and produce content for the show.
Speaker 1: And it is c ringe for real. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh God.
Speaker 2: And then she picks like a red numbers off the
Speaker 2: shoulders so she can show her titty tattoo. And then
Speaker 2: she goes to dinner with David and with like a
Speaker 2: place near a fireplace or something. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: looks lovely, looks great.
Speaker 1: They have alcohol, which is interesting, and she has more
Speaker 1: than one drink, which I love for her because here
Speaker 1: I am having a beverage as well. What I loved
Speaker 1: about this was not a lot. But what I did
Speaker 1: love about this was having Christine given a moment to
Speaker 1: talk once again about how her marriage to Cody affected
Speaker 1: her and how him telling her that he was not
Speaker 1: attracted to her, not just in the last few years,
Speaker 1: not just in the last decade, but on the day
Speaker 1: of my cat's Keene Saniera and our wedding. I was
Speaker 1: not attracted to you. I have never been attracted to you,
Speaker 1: even though I was able to get my dick card
Speaker 1: and give you I don't know six children if you have,
Speaker 1: but I was never attracted to you. And like, what
Speaker 1: a toll that took on her emotionally as a woman,
Speaker 1: and how that hurt her so much, And then we
Speaker 1: get that flash back to the Mormon conference room where
Speaker 1: she's telling him that they are going to be divorcing
Speaker 1: and they're hashing it out, and I just felt, once again,
Speaker 1: just really bad for her. I can't of even imagine
Speaker 1: not having a husband who's obsessed with me, obsessed with
Speaker 1: every curve that I have, and I have so many,
Speaker 1: and my husband loves every bit of it.
Speaker 3: Hoodie. I can't imagine living in a world where I'm
Speaker 3: not being adored sexually and in every way by my husband,
Speaker 3: like truly though I feel bad, and he's so glad
Speaker 3: that she's found David.
Speaker 2: Will And honestly, I thought it was really cool how
Speaker 2: she talked about it, like how her confidence took a
Speaker 2: plummet and then she really had to work on herself
Speaker 2: before she even thought about dating again. And now you
Speaker 2: see her. I know, I'm like, you literally dated David
Speaker 2: Willie like two seconds.
Speaker 1: After Yeah, but okay, whatever.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's cool that she was
Speaker 2: able to do that inner work allegedly and like, you know,
Speaker 2: move on and get with a guy who literally says
Speaker 2: at the dinner table on their date, like you're so
Speaker 2: very hot. So that's lovely bad for her and she
Speaker 2: deserves that. Like no matter how annoying she is, I
Speaker 2: really am happy for her and all of the lap dances.
Speaker 1: That she gives to And I never want to see that.
Speaker 2: I just never want to see it.
Speaker 1: Well, and watching their scenes had me questioning whether they
Speaker 1: could really support a show just themselves. Yeah, any maybe
Speaker 1: as a part of a triad, you know, her, Janelle
Speaker 1: and Mary and what they're doing with their lives. Like
Speaker 1: I could never just watch a show about Christine and
Speaker 1: her weird ass children. I know and like what she's
Speaker 1: doing with her life, even though I'm sure it's very interesting,
Speaker 1: I could never do it. Like these segments don't need
Speaker 1: to be in these episodes. No, they really don't.
Speaker 2: And the only reason why they included their Valentine's Day
Speaker 2: dinners so they could just juxtapose it with Robin and
Speaker 2: Cody's Valentine's Day dinner, which is kind of like the
Speaker 2: next thing we get to before. So we before Valentine's Days.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've just been picturing them rising from their coffins, bats,
Speaker 1: flying cobwebs. They're vampire children, Cody Sparratu and Robin Sparratu
Speaker 1: sitting across from each other like drinking from skulls straight up.
Speaker 1: Just oh god, they're terrible.
Speaker 2: Evil people, man, They're terrible people. And like before the
Speaker 2: whole Valentine's Day dinner, we have them building a freaking
Speaker 2: vanity set for Aril who listen, Okay, she's an innocent child.
Speaker 1: We're not going to dig out Ariol.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shot on, of course not.
Speaker 1: She's a baby.
Speaker 2: She's a baby, and she doesn't realize her parents are demons, right,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, but Cody talks about how every year
Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day they like to get their kids gifts,
Speaker 2: and so they bought little Aril, who's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know nine, I don't know, you care a talk. They
Speaker 2: buy her a vanity for her for Valentine's Day. And
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I was so bitter as a child
Speaker 2: watching this, because I'm just like, man, you can't even
Speaker 2: call your other kids like on their actual, let alone
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day, Like you can't even like have a relationship
Speaker 2: with all the other children you brought into the world.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's buy this ten year old of vanity set.
Speaker 1: Here's my question. What about Saul. Oh well, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: standing right there. What does he get It's Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: for Saul too. I mean he went to school that
Speaker 1: day and he probably exchanged little Valentine's cards. I mean
Speaker 1: he's celebrating Valentine's Day, but like nothing for him. Cricket,
Speaker 1: A new coffin, A new coffin. It's in the basement. Honey, Sorry,
Speaker 1: so terrible. Sorry, So I shouldn't have said that's fine,
Speaker 1: but like.
Speaker 2: The coffin, Yeah, it's nice. And come from forgive me Lord.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what about Solomon, I'm kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Like when my husband and I celebrate Valentine's Day, which
Speaker 1: we never do because it's a corporate holiday just about
Speaker 1: making well, we don't care about it. But if we
Speaker 1: were to do it, it would be just as much
Speaker 1: about him, yeah, as it is about me exactly. And
Speaker 1: plus you have twenty thousand other kids who I'm sure
Speaker 1: would love to hear from you, just yeah, one phone
Speaker 1: call from you for Valentine's Day. But no, it's all
Speaker 1: about Ariella. I can imagine being his other children or
Speaker 1: his daughter's watching this back.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, I would have been so
Speaker 2: freaking pissed if I saw my dad like giving his
Speaker 2: other daughter a really awesome vanity because she likes the
Speaker 2: makeup and it's a really thoughtful gift for a little Ariella,
Speaker 2: and it's great. I'm glad that she's happy, But like
Speaker 2: if I was a daughter, I'd be like really, like
Speaker 2: I don't even get like a little box of Heart chocolates.
Speaker 1: I can't even get that a text like come anything.
Speaker 2: But what was interesting about this segment is that when
Speaker 2: they bring up the Amazon package of this vanity box.
Speaker 1: And there's my husband mowing. You told him, I don't think.
Speaker 2: It can we can hear it. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: can hear it. I think you're crazy. You don't have
Speaker 2: to always find me, can leave it in or whatever,
Speaker 2: But I think so. But it's like, are you sure
Speaker 2: you hear the mowing? To know that you can't hear it.
Speaker 1: Beatrice told him that he could, and so now he's
Speaker 1: going to be out there just mowing all night. Buddy,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a beer and he's going for it.
Speaker 1: But his little core is sorry and just letting you
Speaker 1: know in advance. There might be some moan going on
Speaker 1: in the background anyway.
Speaker 2: But anyway, So they bring up the Amazon package from
Speaker 2: their basement full of other Amazon.
Speaker 1: Packages next to the Dickensian Village and all those American
Speaker 1: girl dogs.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and Cody makes a comment about how Robin's the shopping.
Speaker 1: Queen again on the heels of the conversation between Janelle
Speaker 1: and Mary about how these people aren't paying them their money.
Speaker 2: Chef's kiss. I love the producers for that. I feel
Speaker 2: like they're totally throwing some shade, or maybe throwing us
Speaker 2: some fan service a little bit with these edits. They
Speaker 2: could do more. I think they could do a lot more.
Speaker 2: They could, but they're doing the best that they can
Speaker 2: and I'm liking it a lot. And then we talk
Speaker 2: about Valentine's Day and how Cody's the babe ruth where
Speaker 2: he sometimes knocks it out of the park and other
Speaker 2: times he strikes out, which I'm just like.
Speaker 1: Right, I thought it was an interesting discussion about Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day in the polygamist structure, how it does kind of
Speaker 1: put the husband into a precarious situation because like, you
Speaker 1: can't give one wife like preferential treatment. She gets something
Speaker 1: great and the other wives don't. We see some flashbacks
Speaker 1: to a time when he's like handing out flowers and
Speaker 1: he's not giving anybody a kiss, and it's all very platonic,
Speaker 1: and I did think it was I thought it was really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, insightful of Robin. I know that's strange
Speaker 1: to hear in the form of a sentence. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was very insightful when she talked about how
Speaker 1: she entered the family and the rule already existed that
Speaker 1: they could not show affection. Cody could not show affection
Speaker 1: to his wives and they could not show affection to him,
Speaker 1: and that it was her philosophy that they should, and
Speaker 1: that the wives and Cody were quick to like have arguments,
Speaker 1: have edgy talks, have fights, but they never allowed us
Speaker 1: for love and for affection, and maybe if they had
Speaker 1: it would have been better for everybody.
Speaker 2: Except then it would have been more obvious, yeah, to
Speaker 2: see the disparity between the affection that Cody gave all
Speaker 2: the other wives and Robin, and she talks about this,
Speaker 2: like how this rule made Cody and all the other
Speaker 2: wives probably feel alone and feel like they couldn't show
Speaker 2: their affection their love towards their not's even secure, and
Speaker 2: Robin says that this was like a huge mistake. She
Speaker 2: thinks that this was kind of like the downfall of
Speaker 2: the family. And we were already jealous anyway, so who
Speaker 2: cares if you saw him be with another wife affectionately
Speaker 2: like we're already jealous, which I can understand. But then
Speaker 2: we pan over to Christine and Mary who kind of
Speaker 2: give their takes on it and say, well, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: have bothered me. I think Mary was the one that
Speaker 2: said this, like it wouldn't have bothered me if I
Speaker 2: was in a good place with Cody to see him
Speaker 2: be affectionate with other wives. But when I was struggling,
Speaker 2: and Christine echoes this, when I was struggling, it was
Speaker 2: really hard for him to see. For me to see
Speaker 2: him be in a better place with the other wives,
Speaker 2: which I could respect, it would be difficult. And this
Speaker 2: is why polygamy does not a good.
Speaker 1: Option, right, Yah, not good at all. And this is
Speaker 1: where we get the interstitial from Cody, where he talks
Speaker 1: about how Mary historically, certainly when they were first married,
Speaker 1: was very clingy, Yeah, very needy, like sit in his
Speaker 1: lap and hug him a lot, and how it was
Speaker 1: Janelle's mother who approached him and said, it's really hard
Speaker 1: for Janelle to see that affection, so you might want
Speaker 1: to make a shift and a change. And from that
Speaker 1: moment on, they enacted this rule that they weren't going
Speaker 1: to show affection to one another. And Janelle says in
Speaker 1: her talking head like, yeah, like, you can have the
Speaker 1: rules applied to the different marriages according to the people
Speaker 1: in those marriages, And if everybody felt good about Cody,
Speaker 1: the relationship with Cody, it maybe wouldn't have been a
Speaker 1: big deal if he was affectionate or they were affectionate
Speaker 1: with him. But because there was always a problem in
Speaker 1: one of those relationships, they could never manage it.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and because Cody couldn't manage his other relationships with
Speaker 2: everybody to make it feel like it was equal for
Speaker 2: everyone and make everybody feel equally loved, because you know,
Speaker 2: love should be multiplied, not divided. It would have been better, yea,
Speaker 2: it would have been fine. Right, They could have dealt
Speaker 2: with it, but they couldn't because it's all Cody's fault.
Speaker 1: Right, Is this when Janelle talks about how Robin doesn't
Speaker 1: really understand that life because by the time she came
Speaker 1: into the family, like they had already scrimped and saved
Speaker 1: and like had all their hardships and then she just
Speaker 1: reaped all the rewards. Was it this part or was
Speaker 1: it somewhere else?
Speaker 2: It was probably earlier, but it was in the context
Speaker 2: of like Cody can have his Diesel genes model and
Speaker 2: live happily ever after, but like, she's never been through
Speaker 2: the hard times with you, she said, she's never been
Speaker 2: through the starving years. She talks about when she was
Speaker 2: holding her up with a freaking safety pin, diaper pin,
Speaker 2: and like they were broke as hell and she was
Speaker 2: with him through all of it. And I think James
Speaker 2: talked about this on My Take on Reality a little bit.
Speaker 2: Maybe he talked about it on a speak pipe or
Speaker 2: when we did our live with him, but he mentioned
Speaker 2: this very thing. So it was interesting to have Janelle
Speaker 2: echo it on the show and say like, yeah, that's cool,
Speaker 2: Like you can have her now when you're rich and
Speaker 2: you have all this money and all these cool things,
Speaker 2: But she wasn't there with you during the hard time,
Speaker 2: and that's the woman you want to keep, and you
Speaker 2: got rid of all three of.
Speaker 1: Them, right, So it's easy for you, Robin, to talk
Speaker 1: about wanting affection or displays of affection, but you weren't
Speaker 1: there when we were trying to figure out all the
Speaker 1: rules so that we could make this family work. And
Speaker 1: so now though you've entered the family and we've all left,
Speaker 1: now you get the benefit of all of the resources
Speaker 1: and all of the money and all of the assets.
Speaker 1: You get to have them, He gets to have his model,
Speaker 1: and I guess we're just out in the cold.
Speaker 2: And this is like something we've talked about prior episodes
Speaker 2: of like would Robin leave Cody when the resources.
Speaker 1: Robin have stayed exactly if Robin was the second wife,
Speaker 1: if Robin was the third wife like back in the day,
Speaker 1: would she have stayed during the lean years or would
Speaker 1: she have had a problem with that? I suspect given
Speaker 1: the debt that she walked out of her first marriage
Speaker 1: with to the Victoria's Secret and everything, I would suspect
Speaker 1: she would have not have been happy. She would not
Speaker 1: have wanted to struggle, and she never had to struggle
Speaker 1: with Cody. Nope, That's why she is going to be
Speaker 1: disinclined to leave him now because again the question is
Speaker 1: where are you going to go though, rob Bed, Where.
Speaker 3: Are you going to go?
Speaker 1: What you go to do?
Speaker 2: I mean for real?
Speaker 1: Because money is her motivator exactly.
Speaker 2: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And then the last scene that we have is the
Speaker 2: Valentine's dinner with Cody and Robin some weird steakhouse or
Speaker 2: something right, And this is where Cody gives her the jewelry,
Speaker 2: which we'll probably talk about later at the.
Speaker 1: End because let's let's save that for Patreon. We'll have
Speaker 1: like a deep dive discussion about the jewelry and how
Speaker 1: we really feel about that. Yeah, it is, talk about
Speaker 1: it then.
Speaker 2: Yes, but he gives her the jewelry. He says, it's
Speaker 2: pretty jewelry for a pretty Ladyka, which I'm like, is
Speaker 2: the pretty lady in the room with us?
Speaker 1: It's the pretty jewelry in the room with us for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we get into a conversation about I
Speaker 2: guess Cody went and visited some of his eldest daughters.
Speaker 1: He went, I think probably for a visit with Truly,
Speaker 1: and when he was there, he also met with Aspen
Speaker 1: And it sounds like a couple of sons from a
Speaker 1: different mother, So I'm thinking obviously Janelle, unless he's preferring
Speaker 1: to Peyden and another brother. I don't really know who
Speaker 1: this was. But he did have a conversation with Aspen,
Speaker 1: which sounds truly heartbreaking. Yes, and as a parent, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was just so sad for Aspen hearing how Cody
Speaker 1: is recounting the conversation as if it was like such
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. But go on, I don't want to
Speaker 1: jump on your toes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Robin asks the question like how was that?
Speaker 2: You know, because she's reading a script and so she's
Speaker 2: asking Cody like, how was that? Conversation and Cody says, well,
Speaker 2: Afspin came to me and said that she feels like
Speaker 2: I hate her like and I don't want to be
Speaker 2: around her.
Speaker 1: Why don't you like me, daddy?
Speaker 2: Why don't you like me? And Robin makes a comment
Speaker 2: and says, well, that was more of a confrontation, which
Speaker 2: I didn't like. And actually I had a conversation with
Speaker 2: Ethel about this because Ethel said this was the moment
Speaker 2: for her where she realized Robin was the villain because
Speaker 2: Cody is recounting Aspen telling him this heartbreaking thing, why
Speaker 2: don't you like me? Dad? And Cody in his talking
Speaker 2: head is like, sweetheart, I love you. That's what he
Speaker 2: says to the camera anyway, and Robin turns it into
Speaker 2: what was a confrontation, makes it a Harsher moment than
Speaker 2: what it needs to be. And Ethel said this is
Speaker 2: indicative of Robin's soft manipulation, like always turning the situation
Speaker 2: into something worse than it actually needs to be. But
Speaker 2: maybe Robin this entire time has just been pushing Cody
Speaker 2: away from his kids because she wants him to be
Speaker 2: focused on her kids only. And it shows because like
Speaker 2: the vanity set for ril, it's like, does she need
Speaker 2: that though she's ten and Cody's not giving that same
Speaker 2: kind of love and affection to truly or to any
Speaker 2: of his other kids. So it was actually really interesting,
Speaker 2: like Ethel making that observation of Robin framing that conversation.
Speaker 1: Like so but importantly yes, And I wondered if she
Speaker 1: caught herself doing it, because she is the Cody whisperer. Ye,
Speaker 1: and we've had Janelle call her out for trying to
Speaker 1: constantly therapize and be in that role. Like I wondered
Speaker 1: if she caught herself reframing it as a confrontation when
Speaker 1: it was Cody who introduced it as a conversation. Yes,
Speaker 1: because then she's like, I mean a good confrontation though,
Speaker 1: But like I think she was trying to set it up,
Speaker 1: like like worst case scenario would be she's trying to
Speaker 1: covertly present it to us as Cody goes over there
Speaker 1: to hang out with his kids and askin forces the
Speaker 1: confrontation in which she accuses Cody of neglecting her or something.
Speaker 1: But Cody in that moment, he's so dumb anyway, But
Speaker 1: in that moment, he's like, no, it was actually a
Speaker 1: really great conversation. Yeah, and so she asked me this
Speaker 1: question and I told her absolutely not, I love you
Speaker 1: and two things and I'm hoping I'm going to remember
Speaker 1: them both. But the first thing was as a parent,
Speaker 1: that is not what I would have said. I would
Speaker 1: have ended with that how much I love you. The
Speaker 1: first thing I would have said, though, would have been
Speaker 1: around taking responsibility for the fact that I have not
Speaker 1: contacted you and even the way that it refers to
Speaker 1: this on the couch. And he's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: because these women were talking about me and the kids
Speaker 1: were seeing me through their filter and you know, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't deal with it or whatever. So like, what
Speaker 1: you're actually saying then, is that you took out on
Speaker 1: your children the problems that you had with their mothers
Speaker 1: instead of compartmentalizing, dealing with the moms on the side
Speaker 1: and still making space and time for these children. Like
Speaker 1: that's your mistake, that's what you did. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: onus of the The onness wasn't on the children to
Speaker 1: reach out and maintain and manage these relationships. That is
Speaker 1: on the parent every single time. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 1: The second thing was was that this felt like a
Speaker 1: private conversation, like Aspen was not on camera. There have
Speaker 1: been other times that she could have brought it up
Speaker 1: on camera, even to Christine, she has never done that.
Speaker 1: She has been very reserved. And while she's been supportive
Speaker 1: of her mother and she's been there for her mother,
Speaker 1: she's never trash Gody, not that I've seen at all.
Speaker 1: This felt to me like he's recounting the details of
Speaker 1: a private moment that Aspin tried to have with him,
Speaker 1: which gives him the benefit of framing and contextualizing it
Speaker 1: according to how he wants us to hear it, and
Speaker 1: it takes that away from Aspen. And did Aspin even
Speaker 1: want this out in the public square? Did she want
Speaker 1: us knowing that? Very vulnerably she went to her father
Speaker 1: and said, Daddy, why don't.
Speaker 2: You like me?
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't want that, I wouldn't want the raccoons
Speaker 1: consuming that as trash if. I'm just trying to ask
Speaker 1: my dad this vulnerable question, and yet he presents it
Speaker 1: producing content again in this moment, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh God, that stinks too, Honey.
Speaker 2: That's actually a really, really good point because Aspen is
Speaker 2: pretty private, like she doesn't really talk about this stuff.
Speaker 2: We've seen Isabelle on camera express that she's upset with
Speaker 2: how Head's dad doesn't talk to her, doesn't engage in
Speaker 2: a relationship with her. But we haven't seen a lot
Speaker 2: of that from Aspen. And maybe there's footage of that
Speaker 2: that we that got edited out or something. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but that's a really good point. I wonder how she
Speaker 2: feels about her dad talking about putting her on blasts
Speaker 2: and talking about it with Robin of all people, when
Speaker 2: I think assume most of the kids don't.
Speaker 1: Really like this much because she's awful.
Speaker 2: So it's very interesting and to your point, like Cody
Speaker 2: might be misrepresenting this whole conversation, like maybe it wasn't
Speaker 2: that beautiful. Maybe Aspen didn't leave that conversation feeling like
Speaker 2: things were resolved or like she had her dad back
Speaker 2: in her corner. Maybe Cody's framing it like that because
Speaker 2: he's trying to rehab his image to us and trying
Speaker 2: to take responsibility or like be there for his kids
Speaker 2: when he when we know he isn't. And he even
Speaker 2: brings this up like he's like I was afraid to
Speaker 2: reach out. I felt like, what did he say? He
Speaker 2: felt discouraged to reach out to unwelcomed. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, really, yeah, really unwelcomed because apparently Aspen said, like,
Speaker 2: I've never been unwelcoming to you, like I've always wanted
Speaker 2: a relationship because I've never said anything bad about you
Speaker 2: a day in my life, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't. At that time in my life,
Speaker 1: I was feeling unwelcome based on what was going on
Speaker 1: with these moms. And again, that's not the fault of
Speaker 1: the child. Asking all of the other kids as well,
Speaker 1: other than the ones that you have with Robin, like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's not their fault. You're the dad. You're the one
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be making building the bridges yet and
Speaker 1: making those connections.
Speaker 2: And that's such an emotionally immature thing for him to say, like, well, unwelcomed.
Speaker 2: These are your kids, dude. They didn't ask to have
Speaker 2: their parents divorced. They didn't ask to even be on
Speaker 2: national TV and have their parents' divorce be projected to
Speaker 2: the rest of the world and judged and nitpicked and
Speaker 2: analyzed and all this stuff. They just care about having
Speaker 2: their dad and their life right, and care about their
Speaker 2: dad being present in their life and asking them questions
Speaker 2: and wanting to be involved. Right, but oh, okay, boo hoo,
Speaker 2: you felt unwelcomed because your ex wife left you, right,
Speaker 2: your kids didn't leave you. And that's the thing. Cody
Speaker 2: even admits that he assumed that the wives were just
Speaker 2: talking grab about him to the kids. And we have
Speaker 2: a scene with Christine being like, I've never done that,
Speaker 2: which I'm like, I feel like you did a little bit.
Speaker 1: You certainly have on television. Yeah, and we presuppose that
Speaker 1: your children are probably watching these episodes well, and.
Speaker 2: Like you're also calling up Michelte after your first date
Speaker 2: with David being like, does Tony make you feel supported?
Speaker 2: And Keelty's like yeah, and Christine's like, oh cool, like
Speaker 2: because that's how David makes me feel. And then Michelty
Speaker 2: makes the assumption like, oh, that's how dad never made
Speaker 2: you feel. Like you are talking to your kids, You're
Speaker 2: talking to the adult kids at least about your divorce
Speaker 2: and how Cody made you feel, and you're saying all
Speaker 2: this stuff on camera for them to ultimately watch. Sure,
Speaker 2: like it is happening, But at the same time, Cody
Speaker 2: should not have assumed it, Like the saying like assuming
Speaker 2: makes an ass out of you and me, like you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have assumed that the wives were talking crap about
Speaker 2: you and that the kids didn't want to see you.
Speaker 1: Also, it doesn't matter even if these wives are talking
Speaker 1: bad about you, that doesn't change the fact that you
Speaker 1: should still be putting yourself in front of your kids, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, even just to counter whatever these moms might
Speaker 1: be saying, like having your own life, having your own
Speaker 1: relationship and connections with these kids that they can rely
Speaker 1: upon that. But your choice was just to ghost them.
Speaker 1: You just ghosted them and they never saw you again.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it sounds like. So why aren't
Speaker 1: we taking responsibility for that? Even in your interstitial or
Speaker 1: out to dinner with Robin, why aren't you talking about
Speaker 1: the things that you've done wrong? They're just so fucking vapid. Yep, Beatrice,
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it was a really sweet moment.
Speaker 1: I told her I loved her, I love of course,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Ever, in that moment, Aspen needed and required so much
Speaker 1: more emotional support. But you're not capable of it because
Speaker 1: there's nothing there except demonism exactly. And Robin's just sitting
Speaker 1: across the table, like, oh my god, sounds so great.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you go, Robin exactly? I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: you were super close with Tony and mackelty and their twins.
Speaker 1: I thought you were there for the birth and everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, Grant, none of them want to see you,
Speaker 1: and you're the reason. I'm sure that they feel. The
Speaker 1: kids feel you're the reason that their family has blown up.
Speaker 1: But for all of the love you say you have
Speaker 1: for all of these kids, and the devastation that you
Speaker 1: feel because your family's been torn apart, why aren't you
Speaker 1: there making overtures or trying to have relationships?
Speaker 2: Like you guys are the grown adults here. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know the kids are adults too, but they're young
Speaker 2: adults like you guys are the old adults, like grow up,
Speaker 2: suck it up, be humble, but like they can never
Speaker 2: they can never do that. And then we have this
Speaker 2: stupid conversation that's so scripted and dumb of Robin asking
Speaker 2: Cody is one wife enough for you? Are you sure
Speaker 2: you don't want to live polygamy anymore? And this was
Speaker 2: so dumb because obviously we know the answer.
Speaker 1: Right and he said it a million times and we've
Speaker 1: already discussed this with you, Robin. And don't act like
Speaker 1: you really want polygamy. I never really wanted polygamy. I've
Speaker 1: only ever really wanted Cody. Don't act disappointed that now
Speaker 1: you're a monogamous. This is what you've always wanted and
Speaker 1: now you have it. So here we are.
Speaker 2: And she keeps talking about her faith like I'm scared
Speaker 2: of plural marriage. I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: live in again, but it's a part of my faith. Like,
Speaker 2: shut up, you're the only one that's subscribing to the
Speaker 2: AUB stuff. I mean, I guess Mary is and Janelle
Speaker 2: kinda with the spiritual dumb I mean, I guess, but
Speaker 2: like Mary, Robbin's the only one that's saying she still
Speaker 2: believes in all this. But I'm like, you haven't been
Speaker 2: to the AUB church since you guys left Utah and
Speaker 2: seasoned Freaking one or two or wherever it was. Mmm,
Speaker 2: like miss me with this, I'm so tired of this conversation.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe anything you have to say. And
Speaker 1: the reality is, and we're all in the reality TV
Speaker 1: cringe dumpster is we realize that if he did bring
Speaker 1: a young Chippy home and wanted to have another wife
Speaker 1: introduced to the family. You would absolutely not put up
Speaker 1: with that, and you would leave him. There's just no way.
Speaker 1: There's no world in which you would ever let that happen.
Speaker 1: So stop lying. We all know this. Don't act like
Speaker 1: we don't know this.
Speaker 2: I mean for real. And then we end the episode
Speaker 2: with Cody and his interstitial reflecting on his comments that
Speaker 2: he made yes about never loving any of the OG
Speaker 2: three women. And I thought this was really interesting because
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like genuine, but maybe it is.
Speaker 2: It was just weird how he brought it up, Like
Speaker 2: how he only said all of those things because he
Speaker 2: was angry and upset and like trying to shove off
Speaker 2: his feelings about all of these divorces and try to
Speaker 2: shift blame to like, oh, I just never loved any
Speaker 2: of them. But then he says out of his mouth
Speaker 2: the truth is that he did love them, and that
Speaker 2: he wishes nothing but the best for them.
Speaker 1: I guess like that he would love if they could
Speaker 1: be friendly. Yeah, at the end result of all of
Speaker 1: this trap is that they could have friendships. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: vibe on that was that he is socially aware like
Speaker 1: both Robin and him, and I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: they had like a PR crisis team or somebody counseling
Speaker 1: them behind the scenes, Like you've got to address this,
Speaker 1: Like you can't just say this crazy crap about these women.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you have to know how you're being perceived.
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling that they do. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so he's doing damage control in these moments. And of
Speaker 1: course you loved them. We all know that you loved them.
Speaker 1: We watched the show even in the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: We're doing rewinds were season six. You were loving these women,
Speaker 1: so of course you did. And so now you're just
Speaker 1: trying to repair your image.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and trying to again shift blame a little
Speaker 2: bit and be like, oh, it's just angry. It's like,
Speaker 2: even if you're angry, you shouldn't be saying such awful,
Speaker 2: vile things on public television.
Speaker 1: Well, they were trashing me, and so yeah, I trashed
Speaker 1: them too. Okay, don't really remember any of them out
Speaker 1: and out trashing you. In fact, they seem like they
Speaker 1: were being pretty delicate with how they were handling you
Speaker 1: until you were out here saying all this wild stuff
Speaker 1: about them. Then they're like, O goad, gloves off, We're
Speaker 1: just going to tell the truth. Then, okay, I just
Speaker 1: tell the truth. And even so they haven't been as
Speaker 1: hard on you as I would be in this moment,
Speaker 1: even with Mary right, like she's still covering for you
Speaker 1: to some degree.
Speaker 2: They should be so much harder.
Speaker 1: They should be dragging you through to drag him, drag him.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And you're lucky they are, because I
Speaker 2: feel like they have I don't know, thirty years of
Speaker 2: stories that they could tell, indeed to make you look
Speaker 2: even worse of a person. But they're not. They're being
Speaker 2: very careful.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And so now he's also being careful. Oh, I only
Speaker 2: saw those students because I'm mad.
Speaker 1: And what did you think about him admitting that his
Speaker 1: identity was tied up in how they viewed him, and
Speaker 1: them telling him that he's awesome, and them the wives
Speaker 1: telling their kids, your dad is awesome, and then his dad,
Speaker 1: his kids telling him you're an awesome dad, Like he
Speaker 1: was so invested in the perception of his family. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was his whole identity.
Speaker 2: That was really interesting.
Speaker 1: That was truthful.
Speaker 2: I think that was totally truthful, and it makes sense
Speaker 2: why he was so vitriolic and why he had such
Speaker 2: a negative reaction, because his whole world kind of turned
Speaker 2: upside down, Like, especially when Christine left. I don't think,
Speaker 2: and I've said this before, I don't think he was
Speaker 2: ever expecting Christine to be the first one to go.
Speaker 2: I think he was hoping it was going to be married, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that maybe Janelle and Christine would just stay and
Speaker 2: be platonic wives so he could keep their money and stuff. Like,
Speaker 2: he was never expecting this to happen. He wasn't expecting
Speaker 2: all three of them to leave in such a short
Speaker 2: period of time after each other. So like, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to justify Cody's actions because they were completely ross
Speaker 2: and disgusting and despicable, But like it makes sense when
Speaker 2: he's saying that his whole identity was surrounded informed by
Speaker 2: everyone else thinking he was so awesome and.
Speaker 1: Das sudden, all of those people. So the wives and
Speaker 1: the children think that you're a piece of crack and
Speaker 1: the whole world, And so I think what we witnessed
Speaker 1: was his extinction burst, Like he could not handle how
Speaker 1: they felt about him, in addition to how the rest
Speaker 1: of us felt about him and how everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: him on social media, and he talks about how he
Speaker 1: was in such a dark place that he even considered
Speaker 1: walking away from Robina was interesting. Yes, do we believe him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I believe them, Okay, But why why would he ever
Speaker 1: do that? What else would he ever have outside of
Speaker 1: her and their life together?
Speaker 2: I mean, he says it was self destruction, which I
Speaker 2: could see, but like it would have been really interesting,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like it was probably a manipulative tactic
Speaker 2: that he employed on Robin. Maybe that's what he meant
Speaker 2: by being unfair to her, like of him just being like, well.
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking awful, and why don't you just leave
Speaker 1: me already? Right like that, maybe I'll leave you right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I bet they were fighting.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think she was unhappy with him, and maybe
Speaker 1: that informs even in these moments like when they're out
Speaker 1: to dinner, like how she does feel energetically like a
Speaker 1: bit trepidacious around him and unsure.
Speaker 2: And see she feels unsafe because she.
Speaker 1: Really doesn't know like are you better? Are you returning
Speaker 1: to your old self? Like are we going to be? Okay?
Speaker 1: Does not know?
Speaker 2: Even then, I'm like watching them as a couple, like
Speaker 2: we've been watching them since the beginning, right, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you guys are not the same as season one, and obviously,
Speaker 2: like honeymoon phases, Dieter, like your relationship changes after you've
Speaker 2: been with each other for a long time. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't see the chemistry there as much anymore.
Speaker 1: I see it on his side, I still feel like
Speaker 1: he's sprung for her. Of course he's in love with her. Yes,
Speaker 1: he thinks she's pretty. He wants to do all of
Speaker 1: these things for her, But like, I don't know that
Speaker 1: she feels that for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and like, how can your relationship really
Speaker 2: be the same after all of this, Like your whole
Speaker 2: family's tarnish, your images are tarnished, And like, I don't
Speaker 2: think Robin appreciates being the villain in the public eye.
Speaker 2: It's why she's privatizing and deleting her Etsy accounts and
Speaker 2: you know, being very secretive because she doesn't like all
Speaker 2: of her dirty laundry.
Speaker 1: Being eared out right.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you're a terrible person, so that's what
Speaker 2: you get, you know. But I just wonder how long
Speaker 2: this can really last, and maybe it will, maybe it
Speaker 2: will last, but whats what if they have to declare bankrupts.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like there's a lot of conversations
Speaker 1: online around this kind of feeling like the last season
Speaker 1: of Sister Wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny.
Speaker 1: Where are you going to go from here? Like if
Speaker 1: we suddenly have a well adjusted Cody who's not raging
Speaker 1: and unhappy, and we still have Robin just hiding all
Speaker 1: the time, and like all this produced content and like
Speaker 1: the lives of the other women. I mean, we're happy
Speaker 1: for you, but it's kind of boring. And what we're
Speaker 1: getting is what Christine's giving. I don't want it so
Speaker 1: and this is such a long season. I know it's
Speaker 1: anomalous in that way, Like what if they are setting
Speaker 1: it up to close it down at the end of
Speaker 1: season nineteen.
Speaker 2: I could see it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what will Cody and Robin behind you?
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to sell a lot of cameos, a
Speaker 2: lot of cameos, and they're going to have to sell their.
Speaker 1: House, yeah, and a lot of that artwork and that
Speaker 1: weird jewelry as well. Like they're going to have to
Speaker 1: be some significant changes in their life, definitely, because that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people are feeling like and when
Speaker 1: you when they drop like trailers or whatever on TLC,
Speaker 1: or like scenes from the next week or whatever. Like
Speaker 1: the comments, honey are just like when is when are
Speaker 1: you getting these people off of our television? We don't
Speaker 1: want to see this anymore? Like when is this? Wrap
Speaker 1: it up already?
Speaker 2: Straight up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What if they do?
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we gonna do? There's no way
Speaker 2: we're gonna have twenty more episodes in season twenty.
Speaker 1: Of what I like, what lawsuit?
Speaker 2: Maybe that would be interesting, but TLC's not gonna give
Speaker 2: us that.
Speaker 1: Well, then you've got nothing exactly. You don't have anything then,
Speaker 1: because like the only thing interesting about this season has
Speaker 1: been Coyote passed of course, and obviously Mary leaving and
Speaker 1: all the women leaving and spiritually still things were interesting,
Speaker 1: But so much of this season has been filler and unnecessary. Yep,
Speaker 1: and TLC obviously produces shows that are filler and unnecessary. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I just don't. I really don't know where we
Speaker 1: go from here.
Speaker 2: No. A lot of people are so tired of it.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are like, I don't even watch
Speaker 2: this season anymore, Like I don't even care.
Speaker 1: I just watched the recaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're just watching podcasts like ours because they
Speaker 2: just don't want to be bothered by it. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, it'll be interesting to see what they do
Speaker 2: in these tell alls and stuff and in these next
Speaker 2: coming episodes.
Speaker 1: Well, even the preview for next week is boring. Af
Speaker 1: We've got Mary talking about dating.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm like, ugh, what.
Speaker 1: Was the other thing?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: Mary talking about dating dating?
Speaker 2: She says people are uninterested in her because of her background.
Speaker 2: And then we have Christine saying her and David fight sometime.
Speaker 2: Cares like nobody because But then they don't show the
Speaker 2: preview for what next week's episode's gonna be about, which
Speaker 2: is addressing Garrison.
Speaker 1: But is it, like yeah, because we only see that
Speaker 1: on the TLC like Instagram page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said next Sunday.
Speaker 1: Okay, why didn't they show that in the preview? And
Speaker 1: are you telling me, Beatrice? Are you telling me that
Speaker 1: we're gonna have an episode where we finally talk about
Speaker 1: Garrison's unfortunate passing and how this impacts the family. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have Janelle crying, yeah, and then we're gonna cut
Speaker 1: to David Woolley climbing over a fence, or we're gonna
Speaker 1: cut to Mary dating. Yeah, in the same episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is so inappropriate, it's horrible. That is really not
Speaker 1: the way to do it. No, I sure hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't go down like that.
Speaker 2: It's gonna go down like that.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a separate episode. You don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be in the same episode.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be in the same episode.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll get to that next week. And speaking
Speaker 2: of next week, Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To Colorado, Yeah this weekend, this weekend, So.
Speaker 2: We're gonna slide next week's podcasts just a little day later.
Speaker 1: Just one day. So typically we released to the General
Speaker 1: Pod on Wednesdays at twelve thirty, whether that's on YouTube
Speaker 1: or your favorite podcast platform. If you're on Patreon, you
Speaker 1: get it the day before. But next week it's gonna
Speaker 1: be one day late. So General Pod.
Speaker 2: Will be out, YouTube will be out on Thursday, and
Speaker 2: we're covering a new show next week.
Speaker 1: You're covering poly Family.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I almost called it the other thing I call it,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
Speaker 2: We're going to call it family.
Speaker 1: We're gonna Polly Family. We're gonna be covering that starting
Speaker 1: next week, although later this week we are going to
Speaker 1: have a preliminary poly Family conversation in which we give
Speaker 1: our fake psychic predictions about what's going to happen in
Speaker 1: this season and I'm excited about it. We're all going
Speaker 1: to be talking about speak pipes and we all been
Speaker 1: calling in you' all have some thoughts. We're going to
Speaker 1: cover that later this week, but next week we'll be
Speaker 1: a day late. Yes, sorry about be sorry about a
Speaker 1: party or whatever for in Coloradi go into a wedding. Fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to party.
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