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<v Speaker 1>This is the baseline discussing the hot button topics of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Welcome everybody, your tune to the baseline. Calie

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<v Speaker 1>Warnshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA, live

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<v Speaker 1>and direct from you and yours And as always, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just a really, really really active time now to go

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the twenty twenty four five

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<v Speaker 1>NBA season. As far as the year goes, we're soon

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<v Speaker 1>and very quickly approaching NBA All Star Weekend. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you really count the number of games that have been played,

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<v Speaker 1>we arguably are at the halfway point of the NBA season,

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<v Speaker 1>and like quickly before, our eyes were already going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about, you know, playing playoff seedings, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know who our perennial contenders are, and you know those

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<v Speaker 1>are still jockeying for positions to try to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff Isaure's just really really amazing how quickly this

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<v Speaker 1>time of the NBA season has flown by. But as always, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you always got to have a good co pilot to

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<v Speaker 1>roll with you while the NBA flies through. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>always when we roll out the red carpet to my

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<v Speaker 1>right hand man, Www. Dot shot Sports A net big Ahuna,

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<v Speaker 1>Pac my man, mister Warren Charlotte's good sir.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is, brother, You know it's MLK

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<v Speaker 2>Day as a recording, excited to be here the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>and full of fact as you listen to the midway

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<v Speaker 2>point of the NBA season, it really did run up

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<v Speaker 2>on us.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's about to take the jewels.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know there's a lot of great basketball left

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<v Speaker 2>to be played here in a lot of great conversations

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<v Speaker 2>as we head into All Star break, but even before that,

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline just the week before, so a great

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<v Speaker 2>time to be an NBA fan is always here rocking

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<v Speaker 2>with the baseline.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got a great show on tap for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you and yours have been enjoying the weekend especially

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<v Speaker 1>still has been a lot of exciting games over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>also a great competitive matchups in games leading into Shaw's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite time of the week, NBA Rivals Week.

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<v Speaker 4>I find that even try that over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well listen, I just find it funny, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King, you know tell it, uh instills upon

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<v Speaker 1>us peace and walk amongst you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The Shepherd and then the very next day, we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, tearing each other apart. So

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<v Speaker 1>kudos to the NBA on that as well too. Right

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<v Speaker 1>like exactly, we got a great show on tap man

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<v Speaker 1>uh a little bit, Shaw and I are gonna keep Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been very cognizant of some guys who clearly are

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission, and they've been keeping receipts. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>players right now who are on one, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it be known that they've been keeping receipts on

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<v Speaker 1>those who have been casting them away, that this is

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<v Speaker 1>basically their swan song, and they literally probably won't find

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<v Speaker 1>any NBA work come the end of this season. And

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously is that drastic, Okay, But I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>they're keeping receipts. They've been written off, you put on

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<v Speaker 1>the as far as the notes go, written written off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just giving people a more you know, a cinematic

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<v Speaker 1>visualization of what they might actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Look written on her and out of the league is

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<v Speaker 2>two different things, my god.

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<v Speaker 1>But they could they could probably resurrect themselves in the

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<v Speaker 1>G League.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>They could probably resurrect themselves through the g League. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we got some guys we're gonna talk about that have

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<v Speaker 1>been keeping receipts and been putting not just our pundits,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even ourselves. Maybe we spoke to it at some

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<v Speaker 1>point before the season began, but they are basically putting

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<v Speaker 1>the world and everyone unnoticed that they are still here

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<v Speaker 1>and they are still thriving in the current NBA season.

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<v Speaker 4>And then a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 1>We always do this, We do our check in, got

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<v Speaker 1>our mid season reports. Uh, you know, got a weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in on some of the up you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>the annual season awards, and a couple of other little

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<v Speaker 1>nuggets we'd like to throw in there to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spice it up a little bit to you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>our midway check in. As as we always say, before

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<v Speaker 1>you get them straight a's. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>The interiom report got to look pretty nice, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Gotta make you gotta make sure you

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<v Speaker 4>A interim report cards.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, people don't know what they.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, absolutely all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, Sean and I are going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>those guys out there that are going to be they've

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<v Speaker 1>been having such a really surprisingly great year so far,

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<v Speaker 1>for us to talk about players who at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of this season we were really really, really hesitant in

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<v Speaker 1>determining and whether or not their season would be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful season.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the moves.

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<v Speaker 1>That have taken in the off season really had us

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<v Speaker 1>questioning what role some of these guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be playing, whether it's on a new team or even

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<v Speaker 1>the same team that they have and even through the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the year, determining where their impact is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be and have on that team to just say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, they're really really, really an important piece.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a couple of players Shaw and I

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes we kind of miss on this because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it is more predicated or saying, is this

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<v Speaker 1>more of like a hoops redemption situation? And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so much about it being a hoops redemption as much

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<v Speaker 1>as it is recognition about what that player is and

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<v Speaker 1>the choice that some of the players make for not

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<v Speaker 1>just the betterment of their career, but also how they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acclimate themselves to the team that they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>on the situation that the team is currently in, what

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<v Speaker 1>the overall goal is going to be it's pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a couple of guys out there who arguably

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't see them having a really successful season, given

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<v Speaker 1>the circumstances that they were probably putting themselves under with

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<v Speaker 1>the teams that they play for. But alas they've said, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, we're going to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 1>this work. Our numbers are going to speak for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and these dudes have been keeping receipts.

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<v Speaker 2>And to some degree, some of the guys we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about are like, all right, well, we know

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<v Speaker 2>who they are, we kind of know what they're about,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not really expecting much from them. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>as you so eloquently put, they've not necessarily a surprised

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<v Speaker 2>but some people have kind of resurrected themselves in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the court of public perception. Some guys have boosted

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<v Speaker 2>their already low very or they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very low trade value.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you should have got in early, because now the

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<v Speaker 2>price of the brick has gone up, as they say. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just important to highlight some positivity even

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<v Speaker 2>with this, and that's not to say everybody on this

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<v Speaker 2>list is on this team that is as a title contender,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's certainly not the case for one guy for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just like to see that, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't take last year or even the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years downside and the way that media and I

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<v Speaker 2>think even the league itself was kind of portraying them

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<v Speaker 2>and say, Okay, well, you know what, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be this less than player. I can still contribute,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can contribute at a high level and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think these guys deserve some.

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<v Speaker 4>Props, absolutely, so let's rifle through them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that the first person you put at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of your list was Russell Westbrook. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>what Russell Westbrook has gone through over the last what

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<v Speaker 1>three four years, It's really remarkable because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>always come in giving you everything he has, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>amazing that over the last few years, some of these coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>been able to figure out a way to utilize and

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<v Speaker 1>harness that where it's productive not just for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for Russell Westbrook himself. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook electing to go to the Denver Nuggets. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I think that this is a sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to play with a Nicola Jokic and

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<v Speaker 1>if Jamal Murray is healthy and what that might mean

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<v Speaker 1>for Michael Porter junior. And obviously the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>season you saw a lot of the rough patches that

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<v Speaker 1>have righted the ship by no means, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>clearly see that Russell Westbrook's impact on this Denver Nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>as expectations I think that people have had about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the Denver Nuggets can at least give themselves

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to be as competitive as they had been

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<v Speaker 1>even for last year, only to get ousted. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you need a guy to come off the bench, give

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<v Speaker 1>and get things kind of in order. Russell Westbrook is

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out a way and to do those things. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see the incremental improvements here and there with the

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get this team clicking on all cylinders

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<v Speaker 1>so that you see the most competitive version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Nuggets through and through something that they suffered last year,

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<v Speaker 1>not having anything left in the tank to see it through,

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<v Speaker 1>for them to get themselves to, you know, eventually, the

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<v Speaker 2>Russ has figured out a way to play work himself

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<v Speaker 2>into the starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of it is because of Denver's injuries, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Murray has been banged up now seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of hitting stride. Gordon has really been in

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<v Speaker 2>and out a lineup for good majority of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>so some of it has just been out of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of necessity, as Mi cal Alona has tried to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out ways to make the lineup itself work. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the most recent stretch, Russ now is we're at the

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<v Speaker 2>halfway point and he's actually started half of the games

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been in and it seems to be working fabulously.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with he and and Joker together.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it, too, is that it gives the Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets another playmaker on the floor at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to where Russ was mostly those second units,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it takes some pressure off of Jamal Murray,

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<v Speaker 2>who's not again not a bad playmaker, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>his first motive operation.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just kind of put it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the fact that Russ has been able to

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<v Speaker 2>get there, and there's some out there, some other reporters

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<v Speaker 2>and pundits it's like, well, if he's gonna play with Drooker,

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<v Speaker 2>of course his plus minus is going to be better,

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<v Speaker 2>and Joker makes everybody better, and they just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want to always continue to detract from from what Westbrook does.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen for what it is. I'm not saying he's send

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<v Speaker 2>in the world on fire. He's always going to guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always going to be a guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to score, you know, double figures and then

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<v Speaker 2>get six or seven sists and.

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<v Speaker 3>Five or six rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of like you can pencil those in,

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<v Speaker 2>pend those in even to the day he's probably forty

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<v Speaker 2>years old, because there's a certain level of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>And hustle that he's always going to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>But his off ball cutting again and is obviously his

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<v Speaker 2>his secondary playmaking. With Joker being out there has been

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<v Speaker 2>something Nuggets have been able to figure out and utilize

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<v Speaker 2>to their advantage and now have them looking like a

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<v Speaker 2>very pretty forma team in the Western Conference when we

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<v Speaker 2>were almost writing them off, especially in the first week

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<v Speaker 2>or two of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, real quick to add to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>What I especially love about what Russell Westbrook is doing is,

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<v Speaker 1>especially to what you're saying regarding Jamal Murray, teams have

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<v Speaker 1>figured out how to defend the Murray Jokic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pick and pop, pick and roll situation where Jokic just

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<v Speaker 1>sets up in the middle of the circle and distributes

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<v Speaker 1>and does others. So and I'm not saying that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Malone has not done anything to change it. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that he has attempted to do that, but it's very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to adjust and to make those type of adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>when the rest of the other guys that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor clearly are not guys that move north and south.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Porter Junity does not move north and south. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon does not move north and south. All of your

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<v Speaker 1>players are like all around the three point line and

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<v Speaker 1>then kind of move in accordance to where Jokic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is dictating certain things. You need someone that just has

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<v Speaker 1>an effet mentality and it goes north and south literally

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And yes, Westbrook doesn't shoot three ball

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<v Speaker 1>very well, but you know what, sometimes it's not what's required.

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<v Speaker 1>And one other thing that I think is important as

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<v Speaker 1>well too, show I want to bring up because you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned him, you usually can book him getting like five

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<v Speaker 1>or six rebounds a game. Let's not remember, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>forget outside of Nikola Jokic and only on when there's

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<v Speaker 1>really solid nights from Aaron Gordon, this Denver Nuggets team

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<v Speaker 1>does not do a really good job of rebounding the basketball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't expect that from Jamal Murray. You don't get

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot from Christian Brawn, who's still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming into his own right. So a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that they didn't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>because they had such a deep team, right the Jeff Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bruce Browns, the Contavious Colwell Popes. Those guys would

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<v Speaker 1>get into the paint, they'd get into trenches and get

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds and salvage Jamal Murray from having to make those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of commitments. Right, they don't have that, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had it the last couple of years. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>you got that back with a guy like Russell Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 1>So those second chance opportunities, those opportunities that you typically

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<v Speaker 1>would need in order to get those transition baskets going.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get Porter out to shoot those open

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<v Speaker 1>transition threes or fast break threes as well, wherever we

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<v Speaker 1>want to call them, or Braun or any of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't happen unless you got a guy like Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>on that court. And to see him still actively doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see how that is so much helping this

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Nuggets team because if not, it's always on the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders of Nikola Jokic or on a good night when

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gordon is not banged up and has actually committed

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<v Speaker 1>himself down in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll back up your point and kind of close

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<v Speaker 2>it with this. The Denver Nuggets are leading the league

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<v Speaker 2>in fast break points. The Denver Nuggets with Nicola Jokic

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<v Speaker 2>as the best player in the league, leading the charge.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But you wouldn't out there.

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<v Speaker 2>No one would say you know Jokic for you saying

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<v Speaker 2>both out there on the basketball court. So the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of that is the Westbrook effect.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he is able to rebound and then

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<v Speaker 2>sprint up the court for anybody to kind of get

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<v Speaker 2>some open looks, even if it is you hit yoker

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<v Speaker 2>joker kind of on that secondary break, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>he's trailing to play, or he's getting it out there

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<v Speaker 2>to a sprinting Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>Brawn or you know, maybe a Jamal Murray. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's all Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, mikel ownA has had to figure out some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to maybe make some tweaks in their offense in

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<v Speaker 2>that's sense to be able to do that, But him

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<v Speaker 2>being in that lineup on a regular basis, and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he can rebound as well as he does

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<v Speaker 2>from the guard position and then initiate offense the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 3>The Denver Nuggets are first and fast break points this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy looking golden shout out to our girl, Jill Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>got them, got them all on that R and B

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<v Speaker 1>track right now, got the neo soul and the digging

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<v Speaker 1>in the Denver Nuggets. You're tuned to the baseline. Callie

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<v Speaker 1>warren Shaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about players that are keeping receipts. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and move on to the next one. Shaw, I really

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<v Speaker 1>like this one. You know what I'm saying, Your man,

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<v Speaker 1>Ziggity Zach Levine, you know what I'm saying, holding it

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<v Speaker 1>down for the Chicago Bulls.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, Like, what more can be said?

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<v Speaker 1>We've I think a lot of people like to down

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<v Speaker 1>downplay like his overall game, you know, partly because he

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<v Speaker 1>never stays healthy enough to be on the basketball court

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<v Speaker 1>for us to truly believe that he's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an impact with whatever team that he's playing for. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at this Chicago Bulls team. I'm sure that Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan wants to hug him and then wants to to

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like like like bury him

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker in the back room and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just if the Bulls could just finally tank

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<v Speaker 1>because Zach Levine cannot help himself, would be just damn

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<v Speaker 1>good on the basketball court.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's keeping receipts on people who think otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Zach is.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty three and a half a game before, like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, kind of like maybe not all that

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<v Speaker 2>sexy or whatever the case to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But what you do needed to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>To is the fifty one percent from the floor and

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<v Speaker 2>the forty five percent he shooting from the three point

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<v Speaker 2>line right now, fifty one percent is the highest he's

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<v Speaker 2>shot like in the last six or seven seasons. In

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<v Speaker 2>addition to obviously being healthy, he's figured out a way

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<v Speaker 2>to let the game come to him, even with the

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<v Speaker 2>emerging guys like Kobe Wide even Josh Giddy there now

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of help set him up on some plays.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Vooch is still there, you know, getting some

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<v Speaker 2>shots and obviously some rebounds and things like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>but Zach has just matured and I think he's heard

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<v Speaker 2>all the rumors and said, you know, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a winning guy, and he's really kind of fostered

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<v Speaker 2>that now into the space, and like, you know what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good at scoring the basketball. I can even do

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<v Speaker 2>some secondary play creation. But I don't need to be

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<v Speaker 2>a ball hall to do any of those things. I

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<v Speaker 2>can fit within the proverbial offense. And when he gets hot,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets hot. He's got still got great balance, got

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<v Speaker 2>great balance on his three point shot, great bounce on

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<v Speaker 2>his jumper. In general, I'm not saying this to like,

423
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<v Speaker 2>you know, cap as people say to say now, Like

424
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<v Speaker 2>I just was never as down on Zach Lavine I think.

425
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<v Speaker 3>As everybody else was.

426
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, he's been injured. Yeah, maybe

427
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<v Speaker 2>not think he's like the biggest winning player.

428
00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:45.319
<v Speaker 3>But he's a good dude.

429
00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And there was a couple of seasons ago here he

430
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<v Speaker 2>was winning games for Chicago even with the Rods in there.

431
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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I like Zach.

432
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<v Speaker 2>I love this kind of pseudo redemption story, at least

433
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<v Speaker 2>for the season. And this is a guy where there

434
00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>was like second round picks and basically just salary cap

435
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>match that people were saying second round picks for a

436
00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:02.799
<v Speaker 2>guy who gives.

437
00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:03.599
<v Speaker 3>You over twenty a game.

438
00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:05.359
<v Speaker 2>And now look what he's doing over twenty a game

439
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.400
<v Speaker 2>on fifty percent and forty percent from the from the

440
00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:08.359
<v Speaker 2>three point line, and he.

441
00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Shoots a free throw, shoots free throws as well too.

442
00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I listen, if I'm Chicago, I'm selling as high as

443
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<v Speaker 2>I possibly can, and it may still not get you

444
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<v Speaker 2>a first round pick, but I think you can get

445
00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:19.759
<v Speaker 2>extractedly a little bit more equity now out of this

446
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<v Speaker 2>if you're the Chicago Bulls. Either way, if you don't

447
00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.599
<v Speaker 2>think zach Lavine has definitely had a bounced back season.

448
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<v Speaker 4>My bad. Here.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that what zach Lavine is doing is

450
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<v Speaker 1>giving an opening for the Chicago Bulls to figure out

451
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<v Speaker 1>a way to keep him on this roster, grow with

452
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<v Speaker 1>this roster, and maybe help to assemble a couple of

453
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<v Speaker 1>free agency pieces that might help him take another step forward. Look,

454
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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna usurp the Milwaukee Bucks?

455
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>No?

456
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, They're still not good enough to do that.

457
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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably have a better opportunity of moving

458
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<v Speaker 1>Vucevich before you move Zachly. But I think only in

459
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<v Speaker 1>the sense that what zach Levine is completely giving you

460
00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.039
<v Speaker 1>right now is so hard to find.

461
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

462
00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.759
<v Speaker 1>So, if you're trading on that part of it and saying,

463
00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, we want the highest value possible, think about

464
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<v Speaker 1>who is actually out there that are actual willing trade

465
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<v Speaker 1>partners to give up whatever talent that they're probably going

466
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.759
<v Speaker 1>to be grooming anyway. I think this comes down to

467
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the maturity of zach Levin. Now, I'm not saying zach

468
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Lavine was not mature. I'm just saying zach Lavine has

469
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<v Speaker 1>always been caught up in a bad situation where it

470
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<v Speaker 1>has always seemed to marginalize the potential of the talent

471
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<v Speaker 1>that he could actually show you when he's playing around

472
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<v Speaker 1>other individuals who are not quite on the same wavelength

473
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<v Speaker 1>of what the Chicago Bulls were intending to do when

474
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<v Speaker 1>they made the moves that they made a few years ago.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Right.

476
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's not to say that he can't get along

477
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<v Speaker 1>with the likes of a DeMar Derozen, but clearly there

478
00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>was a different strategy involved in what was taking place,

479
00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>or else they probably would have never made that move

480
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<v Speaker 1>to happen to begin with. Right, So, all that I'm

481
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>saying is maybe now there's a different way to you

482
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<v Speaker 1>look at how zach Levine can help help the Chicago

483
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Bulls and maybe figure out another retooling sort of speak

484
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 1>or readjustment sort of speak of the right combination with

485
00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 1>what he's giving you now with what you want to

486
00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>see from the Chicago Bulls. I'm not saying that he

487
00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>should be a cornerstone player, but I am saying is

488
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<v Speaker 1>is how do you get let something like that go

489
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that's giving you what you're getting right now this season?

490
00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like he could probably do that over

491
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the next few years if you're not demanding too much

492
00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>more than what he's already shown you.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think at twenty nine years old,

494
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>he's not necessarily somebody And I know you're not saying

495
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>this verbatim, but you're going to start to rebuild around

496
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I think the Bulls do still need to tear it

497
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>all the way down, and that could include even as

498
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>much as Kobe White, like, I mean, it really could.

499
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I think they've made Patrick Williams available in trade. It's

500
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.079
<v Speaker 2>never really seemed like it's going to pan out for dude.

501
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>There Vouja's voucha and you know, the Warriors are stiffing

502
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.319
<v Speaker 2>around and anybody interested the big man is stuffing around

503
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.400
<v Speaker 2>there and Zach has obviously been mentioned in Trade Room

504
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.559
<v Speaker 2>is previousy. I think while he's built his equity back up,

505
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you do need to strike while the iron is hot,

506
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>because as much praise as I want to heap upon him,

507
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 2>he is has he at least more recently, has had

508
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a history of injuries, So you don't want that the

509
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 2>flow up again. And now you can't get the value

510
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:17.559
<v Speaker 2>that you could get right now, especially within the next

511
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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks.

512
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Remember they shut him down last year around this time

513
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:21.240
<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

514
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>It was, thought, okay, maybe he would be able to

515
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 2>get back, and then the injury just never healed and then.

516
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 3>They were just like, all right, well, there's nothing we

517
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.160
<v Speaker 3>can do because nobody's going to trade for air quote

518
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<v Speaker 3>damage goods.

519
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Speaker 2>He's rebuilt his value, in my opinion, and I think

520
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the Bulls should continue to should try to move him on,

521
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and if they don't this year, then that's okay. But

522
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd be surprised if he's a Bull going into the

523
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.559
<v Speaker 2>start of next season, especially with two years left on

524
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>his deal and that player option.

525
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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go ahead and transition to the next one.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Shaw our man, your boy, Jordan Poole.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's my guy, and my boy doesn't he lately got

528
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a large family, and I got a large family.

529
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<v Speaker 4>You have an extended young son's family. There. Yeah, let

530
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 4>me let me play, let me start.

531
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Jordan Poole right like, and I know people

532
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>are just like, come on, what do you mean? Like

533
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>he's playing arguably on one of the worst teams in

534
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, right with the Washington Wizards. This is true,

535
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 1>but you really can't argue with some of the performances

536
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 1>that Jordan Poole has put on. And I know there

537
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 1>have been some quite a there have been quite a few,

538
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>some shocked in the full moments as well. But I

539
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would argue Jordan Poole has put up some pretty gaudy

540
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>numbers given the circumstance, especially in a situation where everybody

541
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>knows that you're arguably the best scorer on that team,

542
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 1>even if you do have Kyle Kuzma, right, but you

543
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 1>are still his best scorer and still able to pull

544
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 1>up north of thirty points you know, per game on

545
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 1>many a nights.

546
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 4>It says something. It means that clearly.

547
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>You have not been completely shook up by the notion

548
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 1>or what has happened or what transpired that led you

549
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to be outcasted to the Washington Wizards. And clearly it's

550
00:25:55.799 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a shame that the you know, executives of the Washington

551
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Woods is still not done their due diligence and putting

552
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a really good quality team with the type of talent there.

553
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But needs to say George Poole, J Poole, he's been volving.

554
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, he's averaging the career high that we thought

555
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:15.559
<v Speaker 2>he was going to be averaging last year. We thought,

556
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone thought he's going to go there and

557
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>be basically James hard and light, you know, going into Washington,

558
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, as when Hard to let the okay seed

559
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to Houston. Now that was obviously lofty in terms of

560
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>expectations and catachorically wrong and incorrect. But he did not

561
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 2>live up to any symbolance of that. His confidence really

562
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>did seem shot. The minutes were weird, I think with

563
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>he and the coach, and he just looked timid out

564
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>there on a regular basis. He is back, he's not overshooting.

565
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 2>He's only averaging one more shot per game than he

566
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 2>did then last year. The minutes are still about the

567
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>same and the actual field goal percentage is the same

568
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>or you know, forty one and forty three. So I

569
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>mean there's marked some marked improvement, but we're the biggest

570
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>differences is a three point percentage. He's getting back to

571
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 2>what we thought he could be right now, shooting forty

572
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>percent from three, you know, and even two more attempts,

573
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 2>even more volume than he was last year. So the

574
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>types of shots you're taking are more threes, but you're

575
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 2>shooting the threes.

576
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 3>At a higher percentage.

577
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Is getting his average up to roughly about twenty two

578
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>points per game. Yes, on a terrible, terrible, terrible basketball team.

579
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>They are god awful and they will be in the

580
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>segment that we're talking about here in the next half

581
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>of the show. But I just want to, you know,

582
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>take some dirt off and stop besmirching the name of

583
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Poole.

584
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 3>He is who we think he is.

585
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 2>He's a volume scorer, but he's doing it in a

586
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>way that now I think is more acceptable and looks

587
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 2>more like the guy that left Golden State than the

588
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 2>guy who arrived at Washington last year.

589
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think the one thing I want to

590
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>add on to this show, because you brought up all

591
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of the great points about this, Listen, say what we

592
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 1>want to say about the Washington Wizards as bad as

593
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a team, they are scoring, right, and in this climate

594
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of the NBA, that's still going to mean something. Right,

595
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the Sacramento Kings, as much as we wanted to give

596
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 1>praise to how much they had overachieved, part of the

597
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 1>reason was is because you had a defensive minded coach

598
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 1>who embraced the talent that was on that roster and

599
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 1>he let those guys loose. And they arguably were one

600
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the best offensive scoring teams you know, within the

601
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>last ten years, right like they were even rivaling out

602
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Golden State Warriors. That it made for must

603
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>see TV. And I'm just saying, like, if you are

604
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 1>an organization, it's about trying to win a fan base,

605
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>win some level of excitement. You got to have something

606
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>excitable for people to you know, get up for. And

607
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the people out there in the DMV are

608
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>just like, all right, look, at least we got a baller.

609
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 1>At least we got somebody out there that's gonna make

610
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it entertaining on a night and night out basis. And

611
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the next thing I think that comes to play is,

612
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 1>all right, some of those guys they're not great players

613
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 1>collectively as a team. But there are some guys that

614
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see some opportunities there that it may

615
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>be worth keeping them on the roster if Jordan Poole

616
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>playing next to them, you see quality games being played

617
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 1>by those guys right by the Kubali's and you know

618
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and others. So you know, my whole thing is is

619
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that I think he is starting to become a better

620
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>player because you're starting to see that the team you know,

621
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>will go out there and will they will compete at

622
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>even knowing that the stigma out there that they are

623
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 1>a bad basketball team. They're going to compete and they're

624
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 1>going to try to score the basketball. If they lean

625
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>into that aspect of it, there's some excitement there, there's

626
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>some reason for people to watch him. And I think

627
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that's going to open up the doors again for Jordan

628
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Poole not to go back to his ways, to what

629
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying before, but to really give himself an opportunity

630
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 1>to tell people it's like, yeah, I am that damn

631
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 1>good of a player.

632
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 4>This isn't a fluke. You know, we can make certain

633
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>things happen.

634
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<v Speaker 1>We just can't make it happen on a night in

635
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<v Speaker 1>night out basis, we're not there yet, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why I think I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Pool his flowers a little bit, because he could

638
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<v Speaker 1>clearly be doing his solo mission like he is, and

639
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>as god awful as that team is, it's a boring

640
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 1>bariant of basketball that nobody wants to watch. They're winning

641
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 1>some games because even while he's doing what he's doing,

642
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the rest of those guys are out there scoring the basketball.

643
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So him being out there, he has to be also

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<v Speaker 1>partially respond before then we got to give him credit

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<v Speaker 1>for that at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, career hiring points career high and assists career high

647
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<v Speaker 2>and steals again, bad team career highing three point percentage

648
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<v Speaker 2>as well.

649
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Listen, it's it's it's a.

650
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<v Speaker 2>Decent season for Jordan Poole, especially from what he was

651
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<v Speaker 2>coming off of, and a lot of people wanted to

652
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<v Speaker 2>just say, you know what, this guy is not a

653
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<v Speaker 2>good basketball player at all and not worth you know,

654
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<v Speaker 2>the not worth the trade that Golden State ended up doing.

655
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors, again, I don't think they regret the move, but

657
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>they could still utilize a guy like him, especially in

658
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the role that he was that he was playing for

659
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 2>them by guns, be bygones. But you know, kudos to

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Poole and hopefully continues on this upper trajectory this

661
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<v Speaker 2>season and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely your tune to the baseline. Cali warren Shaw discussing

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<v Speaker 1>the hot button topics of the NBA coming up. Time

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<v Speaker 1>for us to do our mid season reports. Weigh in

665
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<v Speaker 1>on you know, some important awards where guys are checking

666
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<v Speaker 1>in right now, and some important markers for teams.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what they look like, where they be.

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<v Speaker 1>Falling into the quote unquote picking order of the NBA Elite.

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<v Speaker 1>More baseline Cali Warrenshaw, don't go anywhere. We are back

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<v Speaker 1>Callie Warrenshaw. Based on NBA podcast. Time now for us

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00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 1>to do our coveted mid season Reports, Contenders and honorable mentions.

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00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, like listen, while everyone's trying to slide up

686
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in everybody's dms, we'd be bringing out the hms in

687
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 1>this part of our segment here. So time for my

688
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>man Shaw and I to to kind of, you know,

689
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 1>weighing on what's going on as we.

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00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 4>Hit the mid season mark.

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00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And let's start right off, Shaw with most Improved Player. Uh,

692
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Definitely contenders and mentions for this coveted Award Caid Cunningham,

693
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Evan Mobley, Tyler Hero and Norman Powell.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're more or less for these that we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to tack.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to tackle everything in the award category,

697
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 2>but some things that I think are interesting and this

698
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>is more or less based on the most current odds.

699
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 3>That are out there by the betting bet makers out there.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are the guys who I think have the

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00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>strongest case by that.

702
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe there's some Wald cards out there, but

703
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 2>for my money, right now, the most improved player I

704
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>think is Caid Cunningham's. He's on the cusp I think

705
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of making his making an All Star Game as well too.

706
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Evan Mobley is obviously a great selection because he's finally

707
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>actualizing some of the potential that many of us have

708
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 2>been clamoring for and is only you know, two three

709
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>years in the league. Feel like, you know, we keep

710
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of expectations on him early, but at the

711
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, he's finally delivering under Kenny Atkinson.

712
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 2>So but while Tyler, Tyler Harrow and Norman Powell great

713
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 2>great guys having great seasons as well, I think Kate

714
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Cunningham actually deserves this because this this this Piston team,

715
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, as we're recording here on MBLK, they actually

716
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>got a great road win against the Houston Rockets after

717
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>they stood a couple of games before that. But Kate

718
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 2>is leaving the charge there, man, and I love everything

719
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 2>he's doing in there, and that team is rallying behind him.

720
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 2>So it's not just the stats, but it's the leadership

721
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>qualities that he's showing as well too. I think can

722
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>capture him this award as long as he says healthy.

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00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I feel like Kate Huntingham is going

725
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to walk away with this is is and I wonder

726
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>about this more than anything.

727
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 4>So hopefully one time we'll pull some stats on this.

728
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering Kate Cunningham and fourth quarter scoring and what.

729
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 4>He's doing in late game situations.

730
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that Evan Mobley doesn't have that potential,

731
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 1>but clearly that that ball defers to Donovan Mitchell right

732
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like he's the guy and he's proven he's the guy,

733
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and the Kletan Cavillers are practically just blowing teams away

734
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't even really matter. What I think matters

735
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is the impact that Evan Mobley now has. To your

736
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>point about the upside, potentially, he's finally showing you Tyler Hero.

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00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I think we've all been waiting to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Hero be that guy, you know, especially given the

739
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>criticism that he's suffered over the last couple of years,

740
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the lack of maturity at times in the way he's

741
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>handled it. You definitely have seen another level to him,

742
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>which I can certainly appreciate, and we don't know what

743
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the situation is going to look like for that team

744
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>when they move on from Jimmy Butler, but when that

745
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 1>does happen, definitely look at Tyler Hero because that's arguably

746
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be He's gonna be the guy offensively, right Like

747
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been waiting, We've been waiting, Shaw that

748
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to be bamed by the Bios team.

749
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Certainly is bam bia this team as far as the energy, rebounding,

750
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>everything like that. But I think from a scoring standpoint,

751
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 1>depending on someone to hit those quality shots, it's all

752
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>on Tyler Hero. And I'm not saying that he's wishing

753
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>his man, Jimmy, you know, off any sooner than necessary.

754
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 1>But I think he is solely showing you that he's

755
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>ready to take that helm and make things happen. And

756
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>what more can be said about normal Powell bro like

757
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he has somehow stepped in to be

758
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that number two guy given the circumstances, because everyone still

759
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>believes it should be Kawhi Leonard's and James Harden. I

760
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're going to ever see that version

761
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>of Kawhi Leonard. You know what I'm saying, But I

762
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>definitely think that when it comes to normal Powell, normal Powell,

763
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>he has proven that at age thirty, he could be

764
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that guy to score that basketball, which I find very

765
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>very remarkable given the years of him being a third,

766
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>fourth off the bench kind of guy to step in

767
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and do what he's been able to do for Tyron

768
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Lewin that team crazy, absolutely crazy. All right, let's transition

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<v Speaker 1>to sixth Man of the Year. Shaw got some heavy

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00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>hitters on here, man, and you got an up coming

771
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>second year player who we were not tabling to be

772
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in this conversation but has very much deservedly been putting

773
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>himself into that Peyton Pritcher, DeAndre Hunter and Amen Thompson,

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00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 1>one of the Thompson twins.

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00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, brother, I'm going off the odds. I

776
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't pull these out of the hat and just say hey,

777
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm throwing these names out here. The odds maker says

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00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 3>these are the.

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<v Speaker 2>Front runners for these awards currently right now. And a

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00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>man is actually now starting a little bit more because

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00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Jabari Smith Junior has been out of the lineup. Men

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00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 2>had been putting up some pretty monster numbers. Roughly, you know,

783
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>had a crazy five game stretch.

784
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Yo, who is this? Why what's happening here?

785
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Then I was like, oh, he's starting now in the

786
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>minutes have changed because I was like, yo, this is

787
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was a bit much even for me,

788
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But I love a man and what he's been able

789
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 2>to do off that you know, off that Houston Rockets

790
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 2>mench for the most part, you know him and what

791
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.480
<v Speaker 2>are they called the terror twins him and Tory Easton

792
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>when they come into the game. But with the starting

793
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>nine now not quite sure how long he'll qualify if

794
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Jabari Smith is going to be out for an extended period,

795
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 2>and with DeAndre Hunter just what he's especially in the

796
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 2>stretch right before the NBA Cup twenty points a game

797
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 2>like every night, it's just what it was. But there

798
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:06.880
<v Speaker 2>is no better bench scorer. And and let's keep it a

799
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>buck We say this all the time. The sixth Man

800
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 2>of the Year over the six Man of the Year

801
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 2>award is always who scores the most buckets off the bench?

802
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Is that about who has the most assists, rebounds?

803
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>You know?

804
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 3>The best plus mind is like who gets buckets? And

805
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>that's been Peyton Pritchett this year.

806
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Leading the league and points out the bench total, leading

807
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the league in three points, three points off the bench

808
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 2>by a landslide, and you know, doing really giving that

809
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Celtics second second lineup a bolstering guy who can really

810
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 2>get it done and can create for some guys here

811
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and there as well too. So I agree with the

812
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 2>ozmakers right now that Pritchard is that dude. But I

813
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>think if a man goes back to the bench roll,

814
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>it could get dicey here and it would be awesome

815
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>to see. Because a man is not a natural scorer,

816
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>he does kind of all those intangible things. So I'm

817
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>not rooting against the Celtic here, but I'm just saying

818
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a man would be a nice, nice change of pace

819
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>if he were to kind of.

820
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Keep things up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my sentiment is this, keep them in in the

822
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>starting lineup, because I'm already salty as it is. I

823
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>had him on my fantasy team and then I had

824
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to drop him, and I now regret that I even

825
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 1>did that. But I also blame Mayudoka because he should

826
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>have been starting this kid or given that kid more

827
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>minutes from like the longest time, and he was dancing

828
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 1>around his minutes quite often. Because I guess maybe he

829
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 1>still believed, you know, Javari Smith was that guy for them,

830
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, he exploded. I forgot what night

831
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it was. He just freaking went ballistic that he had

832
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like seventeen points and fourteen rebounds and three steals and

833
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and like twenty six minutes of play,

834
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you're still weighing minutes on this kid,

835
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Like what the hell.

836
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Is wrong with you?

837
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

838
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know so, but again, you finally are starting

839
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to see you may have confidence in the young man.

840
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what you're getting from that, right, Like

841
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 1>he is showing him. He's like, coach, I need to

842
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>be on that basketball court, right, I need to ride

843
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 1>with this team, especially now in the fourth quarter. He

844
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 1>seemed to take some significant minutes out there on the

845
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>court for the Houston Rockets, which I think just bowls well,

846
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>not just for his future, but clearly in the conversation

847
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 1>with six Man in a year, you know, again, I

848
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, Peyton Prince is gonna wind up being

849
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that guy. And I'm just like, don't put them in

850
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>back in the damn don't put him back on the bench.

851
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 1>There's no reason to do it. It's not not Celtic

852
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>bias or nothing like that. But if I'm ume and

853
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting what I'm getting from im in like the

854
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 1>way he's doing it right now, No, no, no, man.

855
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 4>That we don't read up.

856
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, I don't think.

857
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Jabari Smith Junior is suited to be

858
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 2>a bench guy, at least not right now. I think

859
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>he needs the reps and he needs the confidence, you know,

860
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>as a starter. So while I don't I'm not debating

861
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 2>if I think who has a better overall impact on

862
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 2>the team and might even have a higher ceiling going forward.

863
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes it's about a chemistry and a fit as well.

864
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>And so that's where I would slightly push back.

865
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>On that notion that I don't know if I would

866
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>love Jabari Smith Junior coming off the bench, and I

867
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 2>think a man is more naturally suited for at this

868
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>stage of his career. But it won't be long before

869
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm in is a really eighty two game a night

870
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 2>starter in this NBA.

871
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 3>But we'll see what you Dooka does here moving forward.

872
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, man, absolutely all right, m VP, I think it's

873
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a foregone conclusion right with the heavy hitters, Jokic Alexander.

874
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 4>That's a koombo, right, who do you who? Who?

875
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Who really to you has the best path forward to

876
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 1>winning that m VP when we get to the other

877
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>half of the season.

878
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll keep this short because it's a conversation that all

879
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>podcasts and people talk about a regular basis. SGA has

880
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 2>actually kind of moved in front of your kiss right

881
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>now for for odds, because of the narrative aspect, it's

882
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 2>just like, hey, we're tired of giving the joker.

883
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Let's give it to somebody else.

884
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Okayc's number one in the Western Conference obviously has an

885
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 2>amazing case. If I was betting or not betting, if

886
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I was voting, I would give the joker. I just

887
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 2>he's literally having another historic season despite every season being historical.

888
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>And now look what he's doing with a team that

889
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I still think is less than despite his help and

890
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>buddy in Westbrook. Now, but he's far surpassing what I

891
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and the and the workload has been insane more than

892
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>it's ever been in his in his career. But I

893
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>think SGA will have the inside track as okay, so

894
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>he can continue to win it because of the voter

895
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 2>fatigue that's happened with Joker.

896
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it's because SGA is just showing you he's

897
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>a clutch player, and right now he's showing you that

898
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 1>smooth is sexy in the NBA. Okay, the way that

899
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 1>he just seems to effortlessly score that basketball and the

900
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 1>way that he seems to effortless, effortlessly impact the basketball game,

901
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to see that more and more. I don't

902
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>know if it's because there's definitely been more of a

903
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 1>push to feature the Thunder on primetime games that we're

904
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>actually getting to see this, but it's just very interesting

905
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 1>to me that when we talk about sg A, he's

906
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy that you know, you look up

907
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and you say, all right, first quarter he's probably got like,

908
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, seven points, you know, one or two rebounds,

909
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe one or two assists, and then by the end

910
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>of the game he's got thirty six points, you know,

911
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>five rebounds, seven and a half assists, three steals. Like

912
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he somehow seems to fill up the stat sheets. But

913
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just when through the course of a game, if

914
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the Thunder are in it and it's against a really

915
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 1>good team, somehow his imprints are on that he's gonna

916
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>be given the opportunities for him to have an impact. Now,

917
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>will he just outright blow the doors off? He doesn't

918
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>do that like kind of like as a Yokic type

919
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.599
<v Speaker 1>of situation. But I again, I'm looking at the smoothness

920
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of his efficiency that I think has resurrected the conversation

921
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>about why he should win it more so than I

922
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's about the fatigue that people are having about

923
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yokis because Yokic is still putting up those monster numbers again.

924
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see where Yokic's numbers are being highlighted

925
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>on those primetime games. It seems like he's putting those

926
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 1>numbers up on games that you see on the bladder

927
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>again on NBA TV, which to me is a little concerning,

928
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>because again, you want your best players in the NBA

929
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>featured as much as possible on a nightly basis when

930
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they're doing amazing things. And I just think people's eye

931
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>candy right now is on Sga because he's showing up

932
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>in those big games, winner lose. He's still showing up

933
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in those big games. He's putting up those monster.

934
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Numbers, all right, So you got SGAs a MVP at

935
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 2>this point in the season, I got joker. We'll see

936
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 2>how it ends up landing out. But I think it

937
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>bleeds into the next topic of conversation. And this is

938
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily an award, but just overall a thought process

939
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 2>on kind of where we're at right now. So here

940
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>on the Baselin NBA podcast, who's the most impressive team

941
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>for us here at the midway point of the season.

942
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Is it that SGA led to Oklahoma City Thunder team?

943
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it the Cavs who just seem frigging unstoppable, just offensively,

944
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>just dusting people the point differential right now, their offense

945
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous with the improvement of them and mobile in

946
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>toe as well too. Or a sneaky pick like the

947
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Houston Rockets, who currently do sit second in the Western Conference.

948
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Nobody saw that coming and I'm I'm I'm really interested

949
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to kind of kick this one to you here, cal

950
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>the most impressive team to this point of the season,

951
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>calves Thunder or the Rockets.

952
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Of logic tells me it's the Cleveland Cavaliers, simply because

953
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we've been waiting for the anchor to drop

954
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and this team to start to sink, this team start

955
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to go through struggles this team, and clearly you can

956
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>see that this is the influence of Kenny Atkinson on

957
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>this squad. This team they take a loss and they

958
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>right back on it and whip somebody else's ask the

959
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 1>following night. Right, this is the kind of team that

960
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, shall we said? This is not what if

961
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you're the Boston Celtics, you don't want to give this

962
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>team any kind of space or leverage to believe that

963
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 1>they're on your level. And because the Celtics have been struggling,

964
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Cavaliers have shown you a model of consistency

965
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and the way that they score, how they score, and

966
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they're even showing you that they can play some defense.

967
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 4>Now, are they the best defensive team?

968
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Not really, right, They're they're on a good on certain matchups,

969
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they their top ten. What I'm saying is is on

970
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 1>certain matchups, I think over the course of a seven

971
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 1>game series, we'll really see what is what they're going

972
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to lean into more to get them through.

973
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 4>Right, Like if you're.

974
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Playing the likes of the New York Knicks, you're playing

975
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>the likes of the Boston Celtics. There's some matchups there

976
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that I wonder through a seven game series. What that

977
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>team is going to lean on. If you're the Cleveland Cavaliers,

978
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to say, all right, no question. I will

979
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>say this though they have definitely shown me that they

980
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can play both. It's a question of where can they

981
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>lean on and most confidently when a team matches up

982
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and and and you know, counters something that they're doing.

983
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 1>But if we're just answering this question, Shaw, the most

984
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>impressive team to me by far is the Houston Rockets.

985
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Because even if I said to you that the Houstonrockets, yeah,

986
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 5>for sure, all of that because because at the end

987
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 5>of the day, Shaw, at the end of the day, right,

988
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.639
<v Speaker 5>the Houston Rockets arguably are where we thought the Dallas

989
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>Mavericks are. And they don't have any on their roster

990
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 5>right that you can basically say, oh, that's their Kyrie Irving,

991
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's their Luka Nankic, Right, Like this is ume

992
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Udoka putting together a team that might arguably have like

993
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 5>they're playing house money. They've got nothing to lose and

994
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 5>everything to gain. Because the pressure is gonna be on

995
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 5>the Thunder, the pressure is going to be on the Nuggets,

996
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 5>the pressure is gonna.

997
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:24.880
<v Speaker 4>Be on all of those teams.

998
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't want a team like this with as and

999
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 1>even the Memphis Grizzlies because they got John Moran, right,

1000
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 1>you don't want a team like this now entering the chat,

1001
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't. I didn't think that they were ready

1002
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>just yet. I thought Ume would have to continue to

1003
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>mold some of those guys. The fact that he's got

1004
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 1>all of these guys and they're not even at their

1005
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>level yet they're they're playing.

1006
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Like this, it's absolutely ridiculous.

1007
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 1>And I if I'm in the Western Conference, I'm more

1008
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>afraid about the Houston Rockets more so than I am

1009
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>afraid about what the Killing Cavaliers are doing.

1010
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 4>With what they're doing in the Eastern Conference.

1011
00:46:58.000 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go that far, but I will agree with

1012
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you in terms of Houston being the more surprised team,

1013
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 2>especially the Calves being like a number four, number five

1014
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 2>seeds Plaronnally all right, a jump to number one at

1015
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this stage. Although they're dominant, it's been surprising. Okay, see

1016
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 2>we kind of saw coming anyway, but this Rockets team

1017
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>had most people had them at the play in.

1018
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe you had them as high as maybe eight.

1019
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody had had them above that line.

1020
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Even myself, I was like, listen, I thought this was

1021
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a playing team, and I trusted the coaching of Udoka,

1022
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But to have them as a number two seed at

1023
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 2>this point in the Western Conference is absolutely absurd. It's

1024
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 2>a bigger surprise coming from where they were as you

1025
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 2>compare it if you compared to coming from the Calves,

1026
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 2>where despite how dominant the Caves have been.

1027
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 3>So I agree with you in the Houston Rockets.

1028
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this Shaw, because the next one I think

1029
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you should you can appreciate. If I wasn't gonna if

1030
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 1>we weren't going to put them as are as one

1031
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of the most impressive teams, then this next one I

1032
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>would have definitely had them in. But they are doing

1033
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>so damn well that they just you have to be impressed.

1034
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>So our next section is is are we Bay what

1035
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the f team right like? Given what this team had

1036
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>looked like at the beginning of the year and the

1037
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>lack of confidence that people had about whether or not

1038
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>these teams are going to be successful, they straight up.

1039
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Have us looking like web on the wild.

1040
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm there now, I got it exactly.

1041
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 1>So are we Bay teams? The Atlanta Hawks Detroit Pistons

1042
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento Kings.

1043
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Holistically, I'm going to say Detroit.

1044
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.280
<v Speaker 2>While I think Sacramento has had a nice turnaround under

1045
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the tutelage of Don Christie, I haven't seen enough yet

1046
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 2>to kind of really get there on it. So I'm

1047
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>just going to continue to give flowers to the Detroit Pistons,

1048
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>while Atlanta's also a nice pick the Pistons Kate Cunningham

1049
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>as they're fighting for a playoff playoff thing. They just

1050
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 2>beat the aforementioned Rockets. As I said earlier in our

1051
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 2>show here you know on the road, I just love

1052
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the vibes happening in there.

1053
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 3>JB.

1054
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Bickerstaff, K. Cunningham and company. I think, to me, that's

1055
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the biggest you know, yo didn't see that coming?

1056
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Absolutely.

1057
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm leaning a little bit more in the

1058
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Hawks because of Trey Young, because I'm like, oh,

1059
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't see Trey Young coming?

1060
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1061
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Like he like omar up in.

1062
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>His piece, got everybody or I'm saying, or like when

1063
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 1>that moment that weve was thinking he said, you didn't

1064
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 1>realize that that girl in the back seat was five

1065
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to Oh He's just like, oh, you know what, I'm

1066
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>saying like I was not expecting this good of Atlanta

1067
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Hawks team, given the circumstances and the and the turnover

1068
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that the team had experienced, losing Deontay Murray and such

1069
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. What Snyder and what Young is

1070
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 1>doing to me, this is absolutely impressive.

1071
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 4>I just want to make sure I.

1072
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Call that part of it out that with all three

1073
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of these teams, man, they're they're giving us one of

1074
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>those oh I didn't you know what I'm saying type

1075
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>moments this season, which I love because you don't know

1076
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 1>what the outcome is gonna be. But they clearly have

1077
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>put themselves back in the conversation of playing possibly playoff

1078
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 1>bound type of teams. All right, Shaw, let's do most

1079
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>disappointing teams. This one shouldn't be pretty, shouldn't be hard

1080
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>at all. Right, the fl Ladelphia seventy six Ers, Yeah,

1081
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty disappointing, Phoenix Suns, Yeah, pretty disappointing Timberwolves, and the

1082
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks round out our most disappointing teams.

1083
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, for me, it's the obvious.

1084
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the Philadelphia seventy six ers and the Joel Embiid,

1085
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Paul George Saga, whatever, the ef is going on, you know,

1086
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 2>with their health and all their injuries and whatever vibes,

1087
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Nick Nurse is unable to curate to have this team

1088
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.840
<v Speaker 2>in any semblance of real threat while they were able

1089
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to put together a pseudo decent stretch. So, you know,

1090
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:34.079
<v Speaker 2>about a couple of weeks ago, like around Christmas time,

1091
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 2>it's back in the dumps and beats back on the

1092
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 2>shelf again. Pg's missing games again, Tyres. Maxi's out here

1093
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a lone wolf.

1094
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 3>He's more or less just chucking.

1095
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 2>At this stage, Sixers to me have been by far

1096
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and away the most disappointing, and while there's still time

1097
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 2>for them to turn it around, I don't believe there's

1098
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of faith in that the juju of this

1099
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 2>team and the health of this team is going to

1100
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.719
<v Speaker 2>be intact for them to do anything significant, despite the

1101
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>talent that is clearly there.

1102
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I honestly think that when it comes to the

1103
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Sixers itself, the Jared McCain thing, I think hurt them

1104
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.039
<v Speaker 1>so much more than all this other craziness is going on,

1105
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>because then at least MAXI would have had somebody that

1106
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 1>he can see and move and do something with that

1107
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick Nurse can have some semblance of hope, and now he.

1108
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.599
<v Speaker 4>Just has to ride with whatever he's got to ride with.

1109
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, you know, to me, I think

1110
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>overall the Timberwolves because there's so much it can't put

1111
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 1>my finger on why this team is so inconsistent. They

1112
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 1>really do have a good team, you know, and in

1113
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the landscape of the Western Conference, I can't see the

1114
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 1>team should drop off as much as they've dropped off

1115
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>for what they achieved last year. So it either just

1116
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>speaks to the fact that most of those players on

1117
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>that roster are totally overachieved, or it really this this, this, this,

1118
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, this new roster has is just clearly not

1119
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 1>all together and probably won't be all together until sometime

1120
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 1>next year, and they may have to shake things up

1121
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>again in order to put a team around what you

1122
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 1>were getting from Anthony Edwards and and go Bear and

1123
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Conley and those guys. But it'll be so disappointing to

1124
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>see this as a team that could probably get knocked

1125
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the first round or may have to fight

1126
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 1>themselves through the play in in order to participate in

1127
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. A couple of quick ones, real quick Shaw,

1128
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Purple Heart Team. Now I put the Orlando Magic and

1129
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, Purple Heart team on me bravery,

1130
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 1>like literally bravery for even being able to compete. And

1131
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you would say, by leaps and boundary, Orlando Magic,

1132
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 1>take it far and away. But I put the New

1133
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>York Knicks on this one as part of my Purple

1134
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Heart team, because what was the one thing we keep

1135
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 1>talking about when it comes to Tom Thibodeau running his

1136
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>players into the ground, running his starters into the ground,

1137
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the New York Knicks have managed

1138
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 1>to get this much mileage out of the roster he

1139
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 1>keeps running out there because again he's still running with

1140
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 1>a pretty thin lineup the amount of minutes. I had

1141
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I give the New York Knicks their kudos, man,

1142
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know how they have managed to be

1143
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>able to still have their starting five for the most part,

1144
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>competing to still win the number of games that they're winning,

1145
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 1>and he is still not backed off on these minutes

1146
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to his start. It's just it's absolutely

1147
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 1>amazing to me. I want to make sure I give

1148
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks their props on that part.

1149
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love it. I'm gonna throw an honorable mention

1150
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 3>in here.

1151
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say the Grizzlies, They've they've dealt with the

1152
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 2>multitude of themselves too, and their second and third string

1153
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 2>guys from Scottie Pippen Junior to Jay Huff to Sante Aldama, guys, you're.

1154
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Just like who those guys have been hooping.

1155
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 2>They've been bawling, holding it down when Moran or Bain

1156
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 2>or Marcus Smart or whoever has been out of the lineup.

1157
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 2>So I like that team to continue to just push

1158
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 2>forward despite all the injuries, because you've seen a team

1159
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>like Philadelty kind of going the other way and they

1160
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 2>don't have enough in their reserves in that sense to

1161
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of keep them at the tops of their conference.

1162
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, all right, Shaw capture the flag.

1163
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 1>The race for Cooper Flag is on Toronto Raptors, New

1164
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Orleans Pelicans, Charlotte Hornets.

1165
00:53:57.760 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when the Jazz and Blazer are in here too,

1166
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.599
<v Speaker 2>the Wizards are the far and away runaway, right. So

1167
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 2>but we know the new rules, Hey say, the top

1168
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 2>three teams have the best chances at the number one pick.

1169
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 3>No longer if you're just the worst.

1170
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Record, you have the most The top three chances will

1171
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have top three team. Worst three teams, sorry, top worst

1172
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 2>three teams would have the best chances at the number

1173
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 2>one pick. So I think joining the Wizards here, the

1174
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Pelicans are probably disappointed, you know, They'rey're probably one of

1175
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the more disappointing things that they didn't expect to be here.

1176
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>But doesn't allow them to reset things here, especially if

1177
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:29.599
<v Speaker 2>they trade Ingram or God forbid trades ion on or

1178
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 2>with a CASEV. I think who's going to be joined

1179
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the Wizards in the in the Cooper Flag sweepstakes if

1180
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you will to capture the flag, I'm gonna say Toronto,

1181
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm actually gonna say the Charlotte Hornets, while the

1182
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Jazz and Blazers could also strip things down to the core,

1183
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>whereas basically you and I running out there and they

1184
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>lose games, and in abundance towards the latter half of

1185
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this season, I think it's been pretty futured for Charles

1186
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Lee here in Charlotte, and I'm just not a big

1187
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 2>fan and whatever the hell is happening in Toronto.

1188
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 3>They put guys.

1189
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Out there who I don't know, and I'm an avenue.

1190
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>There's players I'm like, who is that so, and that's

1191
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 2>not I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I just

1192
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on in Toronto right now. I

1193
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 2>think Scotty Barnes is gonna get shut down pretty soon here,

1194
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and and it might be good that they try to

1195
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>bring some kind of like star like superstar changing level

1196
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.920
<v Speaker 2>talent in there to play, to play alongside Scotty Barns.

1197
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I think the Raptors and the Charlotte Hornets

1198
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 3>are going to be right there. Yeah.

1199
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Man, I think those those some good points and stuff.

1200
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of remarkable because when you do look at

1201
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the Toronto Raptors and some of the players that they have,

1202
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, these are transient players and they had a

1203
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>really surprisingly competitive year last year, you know, but.

1204
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 4>It's just gotten worse.

1205
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's just the head coach

1206
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 1>is just not in tune with the roster that he

1207
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>has to work with, or maybe to your point, Shaw,

1208
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 1>there are so many no name guys that it's hard

1209
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to implement his style of basketball with guys that just

1210
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to go out there and execute it

1211
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in the way that he.

1212
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Was hoping to do.

1213
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 1>So just really interest thing Sean and again it's you know,

1214
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a race for the flag. Ultimately, that's what it

1215
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 1>comes down to.

1216
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh, they say this world. Let me say this one

1217
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 3>thing real quick.

1218
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I think the scariest option is if New Orleans were

1219
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 2>to not blow it up and they were still somehow

1220
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>able to do this. In theory, they still have the

1221
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 2>most amount of actual talent from this group to then

1222
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 2>inject a Cooper flag into which could propel them a

1223
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit faster than anybody else.

1224
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 3>On this team.

1225
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 2>But we know theory and practicality with the New Orleans

1226
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Pelicans do not go hand in hand. Somebody's always injured,

1227
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>somebody's always out, Zion's always dealing with whatever Zion is

1228
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>dealing with. But in theory, that could actually be really

1229
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>interesting if the Pelicans were to get into the number

1230
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:40.079
<v Speaker 2>one seed next year, some or other.

1231
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 1>We should have had our we should have added as

1232
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 1>one of our mid seasons, probably making note of this

1233
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 1>is it for next year?

1234
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 4>But who's got to go? Right? Like who should be

1235
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 4>who should be on the outs? Right?

1236
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're Joel and b if at this point, right,

1237
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about it as something to preview

1238
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>regarding you know, where teams are going to be and

1239
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what the likelihood is and obviously stuff regarding to trade deadline.

1240
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 4>That's one thing. But I think the other thing as

1241
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 4>well too.

1242
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Is given where the teams are and given the circumstances

1243
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 1>of what their stars have and have not been doing

1244
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 1>for their teams, which one should go first?

1245
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying? Like literally, like who should

1246
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.440
<v Speaker 4>just be? Hey, we tried it.

1247
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Failed, Let's move on from this, right, And I bet

1248
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 1>you donuts to dollars, we would not be talking about

1249
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Butler more so than we'd probably be talking about

1250
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 1>either Joel Embiid or Zion Williamson given the seasons that

1251
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 1>both of these guys have had.

1252
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>You got to go train, man, I got to clip

1253
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>this and put this out there.

1254
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Man.

1255
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the fans would agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>just yet, but it is a very interesting situation to

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<v Speaker 2>watch here as the season progresses, and then how how

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<v Speaker 2>this season actually kind of finishes out? You know, do

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<v Speaker 2>they just say, you know what, it's not working. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a year removed from MVP.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's not that long ago, but it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like you know, dog gears, you know, since

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<v Speaker 2>he's been healthy and been able to kind of lead

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<v Speaker 2>the Sixers team in the way that's say.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're looking at it from a health perspective. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it from a leadership, cornerstone player perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>And let me tell you this, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what is really bothering people, bothering the Philly

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<v Speaker 1>fans more than anything there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's just what it is, man, It's just what

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<v Speaker 4>it is. And I don't blame them for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have every right to be upset and

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<v Speaker 1>angry and frustrated by that, because unfortunately, the Philadelphia seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six Ers don't own Philadelphia, right, It's the Eagles, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Philadelphia Flyers in that town. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>hold your own and they're measuring you up to the

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<v Speaker 1>other players who are out there putting in that work,

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<v Speaker 1>doing whatever it takes to make their franchises their team successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're just not seeing it from a player

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<v Speaker 1>like Joel Embiid, who obviously everybody recognizes as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great players that are in the NBA, and when

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<v Speaker 1>healthy is an MVP candidate year in, you're out. But

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<v Speaker 1>his demeanor and his attitude and his approach to things,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what's rubbing people off the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't think when you have that baggage

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<v Speaker 1>of being a part of the process, when you have

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<v Speaker 1>that baggage with you and it's really not amounted to anything,

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<v Speaker 1>there just gets a point where it just starts to

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<v Speaker 1>wear thin on the fan base and they're just not

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<v Speaker 1>having it. So that's I'm not saying I advocated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying in that direction, that's all you think.

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<v Speaker 4>You think that I'm that I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not thinking you are trying to push these dudes off

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<v Speaker 2>rage because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be in Philly rady at the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of year. What are people talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>But you are beating that drama hard, and I'm beating

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<v Speaker 2>it because I'm gonna make it not showing me, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get us a Philly Philly reporter on

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<v Speaker 2>here to kind of dive into that topic, especially as

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline kind of comes in here, to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of see if there's any there's smoke where there's fire,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the conversation that you're bringing up with

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<v Speaker 2>a Joel and Bid that's thing tuned here on the baseline.

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<v Speaker 4>No, problem anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome show altogether, as always, my Manshaw just bringing out

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<v Speaker 1>the worst in me.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Jo is bringing out the

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<v Speaker 3>worst in No man's got nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You give it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're giving me my Drake feels worse behavior, So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>As always, Man, good stuff. As always, we hope our

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<v Speaker 3>fans listeners enjoyed this one. Hey man at the half

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<v Speaker 3>our midseason report.

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<v Speaker 2>Under based on NBA podcast at great conversations, Man, we

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<v Speaker 2>kept the receipts, some players keeping them the seats as

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<v Speaker 2>well as you let us know who you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>has surprised you more than would have expected.

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<v Speaker 3>Going into this season. And then again, who's your most

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<v Speaker 3>improved Player MVP?

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<v Speaker 2>All of the stuff that with this kids discuss here

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<v Speaker 2>on our at the half NBA midseason Report.

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<v Speaker 3>Second that great, great show. Brother, can't wait to do

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<v Speaker 3>it again next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely brother for the baseline. Cali warren Shaw, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, you know we do, and I do appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>Jolan B two, don't get it twisted. We'll catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with you next time.
