WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.600 I know fall is about football for a lot of you, 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:06.000 and certainly it is for us, but it's also about 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.279 football or soccer, whatever you want to call it. 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:09.000 I'm not judging. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:14.199 Playoff soccer in MLS is dramatic, it is intense, and 6 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.480 it continues on Saturday after a rough one on Tuesday. 7 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:21.079 Our next guest, the head coach of RSL good enough 8 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.320 to take some time during a game week, Pablo Masch 9 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:25.199 Johnny on a Thursday Pop's Happy Thursday. 10 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.800 Man, how are you doing? I appreciate the time. 11 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:32.600 So when we had you on last and I'm only 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.960 speaking for myself here, I said from my soccer pee brain, 13 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:38.799 it felt like Minnesota is scared to play with you 14 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.200 and they just want to sit back and try to 15 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:44.960 counter a little bit, and that's what they did. And 16 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:47.960 it just feels like getting a goal in that scenario 17 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:52.079 is really really tough, because getting a goal period is. 18 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:52.960 Really really tough. 19 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.479 As you look back and as you've studied the film, 20 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.399 what would you point out today that stood in the 21 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.880 way from you, you guys finding just one solution in order 22 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:03.520 to get that win? 23 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.920 Yeah? No, I think you know, Minnesota has been a 24 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:10.760 really good defensive team and the commitment they put towards 25 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.200 you know, playing behind the ball and the commitment they 26 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:16.480 get from eleven makes it extremely difficult. And when we create, 27 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.319 you know, we you know, in soccer, there's a there's 28 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.560 a static called big chances. And in that game at 29 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:25.000 the weekend, we created three big chances. And essentially it's 30 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.239 it's you and the goalkeeper and you and and and 31 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:31.599 we didn't finish those three chances. So it's not the 32 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.640 volume of chances you're going to create about them but 33 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.560 against them, but it is the quality of the chance 34 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.640 that you're going to create and then just finishing. And 35 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.920 so you know, what I said postgame was like making 36 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.120 a play, and to be fair, their goalkeeper made a 37 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.200 play on three of our big chances. And so it's 38 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.760 it's just and And the key to that is if 39 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.680 you score a goal, their whole plan is kind of 40 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:56.159 thrown out the window and now they have to open 41 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.200 themselves up and now they have to extend themselves. And 42 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:00.560 we've done really really well against teams that that open 43 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.319 up or press, and what we've struggled is is really 44 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:09.879 being intricating our play in tight spaces and and so, uh, 45 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.840 you know, looking back there's a couple of things that 46 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:15.680 that we're gonna that we're going to do with possession 47 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:19.879 deeper in uh in in our build to hopefully, you know, 48 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.240 create some space between the lines to then be able 49 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:26.719 to exploit those spaces with pace, because again, if if 50 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:29.159 you expl if you break lines and you penetrate their 51 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.159 midfield line, but then you take your first touch backwards, 52 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.120 you allow the rest of their team to get back, 53 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.039 and what they are is committed to get back. And 54 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.280 so it's not about, you know, the amount of chances 55 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.439 that that you create as much as it is taking 56 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.919 advantage of the good chances that you create on goal, 57 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.159 and and and and and again. For us, it's going 58 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.800 to be scoring the first goal. And and that's what 59 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.039 we've been working towards. While it's not obviously giving up 60 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:56.400 the defensive side because the the obviously the feeling is 61 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.800 that we have to go score the goal. But if 62 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.599 you concede again these guys, now you have to score two, 63 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:04.000 and then that's not the game that we want to play. 64 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.319 So again you'll have to forgive my ignorance. 65 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.400 The only time I've seen Minnesota is when you've played them, 66 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.479 and it does feel like from my recollection. 67 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:14.960 They do play the same regardless of venue. 68 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.599 Are you anticipating that same style in their plays coming 69 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.680 up on Saturday? 70 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.800 Yeah? You know their coach Mitt interest in common after 71 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.919 the game and one of our best chances came when 72 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:28.680 they came out to press us and we broke through 73 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.599 their whole team and created a good chance on goal, 74 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.000 and he made a reference to you know, we're at 75 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.680 our worst when we're opened up. And so for me, 76 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.360 just that common alone after that game speaks volumes to 77 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:42.000 what they're going to do. You know that they feel like, well, 78 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:43.479 if we take it the cour only six, wee feel 79 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.479 good about our chances. We have a game to play with. 80 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.800 It's the onus is on a Salt Lake to come 81 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.479 out and make the game. And what they're really good at, 82 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.159 because they've been playing this way for quite some time, 83 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.840 is the counter attack. And so the expectation for us 84 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.280 is that that they're going to play the same play 85 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.319 the same way way for their moments and if they don't, 86 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.919 you know, I think it's we have an advantage where 87 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.360 we feel really comfortable with teams exposing themselves, bringing players forward, 88 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.240 and then us being being able to break lines and 89 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.879 create more quality opportunities on goal. 90 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.720 Okay, so let's let's dig into some lineup decisions here 91 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.199 because and again this is just me asking, pontificating aloud 92 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:27.279 and wondering kind of what the motivation was. So we 93 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.639 had Matt on, we had Matt Crooks on a couple 94 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.879 of days ago, and I asked Matt straight up, like, 95 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.000 where do you think do Ogo fits on on on 96 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.360 the lineup slide? You know, where's he best served? He says, 97 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.160 he's probably best served as a ten, just like I am. 98 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.680 You know, we're both kind of central players, and you've 99 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.800 been good to kind of help us understand the connecting 100 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.959 ability of Matt Crooks throughout the course of the season 101 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.000 because the stats aren't there, but then you look at 102 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.720 the miles ran and you know the work rate is 103 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.040 certainly there. So let's start with the decision to go 104 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.360 with Matt central and bring Diogo off the bench. 105 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:05.680 Yeah, I think for me, and this is the same 106 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.839 conversation that with Diogo, it's it's you know, I think 107 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.240 Diego is still trying to, you know, figure out a 108 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:13.439 lot of things about the league, a lot of things 109 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.040 with our team, and he actually came to the team 110 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.480 when we're going through a really rough time, and so 111 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:22.920 my conversation with Diogo is the same as I'll explain 112 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:26.600 you now, is it's just understanding the role on both 113 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.160 sides of the ball really clearly. And I think that's 114 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:32.759 where Matt has an edge. And for me going, you know, 115 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.720 with a guy that has ten months of experience playing 116 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.639 with the screw, going through some good times, going through 117 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:42.360 some tough times, it's just the familiarity that that that 118 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.319 I have with Crooks in that position, and then you 119 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.800 can look at other positions and go, okay, so then 120 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.399 how can we adjust it? But with Crooks it's been 121 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:52.360 he is the glue to our team and like you 122 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.040 really pointed out, you're not going to see it in 123 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.759 the stats, but the way he's been linking with Andreas 124 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.439 and the way he's been Lincoln with Dom who who 125 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.360 you know he played into, you know, create one of 126 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:07.240 our best chances of the game against Minnesota is is 127 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.879 too important to leave him off the fields. And then 128 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.360 the other part with Crooks against the team like Minnesota 129 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.079 who play for set pieces and they're huge, is also 130 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.480 that that what he brings on set pieces from just 131 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.800 an aerial ability and so those are some of the 132 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:25.800 decisions you know that went in, you know, when I'm 133 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.600 explaining things to Diogo as to why I'm going with 134 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.439 Matt Crooks. And the other part of that is is 135 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:36.040 Diego has had his best moments for us when he's 136 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.040 come into games. So the game against the Austin and 137 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.879 the game against Portland, those are two games that he 138 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.399 scored in and he's coming into the game when the 139 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.720 game is a bit tired, there's a little bit more space, 140 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.480 and he's got an eye for goal, and so always 141 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.720 having that in your back pocket is just as important 142 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:53.839 as picking the starting team is who are the guys 143 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.560 that are going to come in if the if the 144 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.600 game state is such, and so those are the conversations 145 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.879 I had with you know, with those guys. 146 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.879 Okay, okay, now you elected to uh, you know later 147 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.560 on the game, bring on Diogo and uh you you 148 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.319 decided to take off Diego Luna. Now for my money, 149 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:16.839 Pablo Diego. Then this is just me, you know, kind 150 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.839 of witnessing and watching. I feel like Diego might be 151 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.160 in the best form of any of the attacking players 152 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:25.319 right now. So take us, okay, so take us through 153 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.160 that decision. Why you ended up to tall, you know, 154 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.000 bringing in Diego in place of Diego Luna. 155 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.959 Yeah, because Diego Luna was cramping. Oh okay, and yeah, 156 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:38.199 So again these are really good questions because again, if 157 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.279 you just look at it from peripheral, you'll have no 158 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.759 idea as as to all the different variables that go 159 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.920 into making these decisions. So Diego was cramping, he'd been 160 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.519 he's had a cold for a couple of days. And 161 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.560 and again, when you're in the playoffs, it's not like 162 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.240 we can we can wait and see if you can 163 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:57.920 get through it. It's more about how do we how do 164 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.399 we keep the same level of intensity on both sides 165 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.560 of the ball. And so diegle the decision with Diego 166 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.120 Luna was nothing more than he was cramping and just 167 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.079 wanted to make sure that we had legs to finish 168 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.000 up the game the right way. 169 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.759 Now I got to follow up how's he feeling? Obviously, 170 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.079 if it's only cramps, that's plenty of time to recover 171 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:17.800 for Saturday. 172 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.519 Yeah. So again, I think the cramping piece comes from 173 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.879 probably taking the meds. Right, So if you're sick and 174 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.600 you got the sniffles, and you're taking things that are 175 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:29.959 that are going to, you know, stop you up from 176 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.840 doing that. Naturally, you're you're taking water out of the 177 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.120 system and it's not functioning the right way. 178 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:35.799 You know. 179 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.639 Talked him this morning and he says he feels great. 180 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.480 So that's a real positive heading into the weekends. 181 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:44.799 So Julio Anderson comes in for Crooks for Maddie, and honestly, 182 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.360 when I saw Anderson warming up, I thought you were 183 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.960 going to take Chico off because he just continues to 184 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.320 struggle to fire and look, he spoiled us. 185 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.240 I want to be very clear, like this is his fault. 186 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.240 The reason we're all mad is because he spoiled us. 187 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:58.799 He shouldn't have had the start of the season that 188 00:08:58.879 --> 00:08:59.200 he had. 189 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:03.799 So they're exactly right. Expectations are what leads to disappointment. 190 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.399 Hope kills us all. I know you've never seen Ted 191 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.200 last so, but I did, and that was that was 192 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.240 the line there. So Julio for Crooks instead of chi 193 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:12.639 Cho to take us through that. 194 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.600 Yeah, No, I think it's the same thing. I'm hanging on, 195 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:19.320 the same thing I think everyone is is if there's 196 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.679 one guy that can create a moment of brilliance out 197 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.360 of nowhere, it's it's chi Cho. And he doesn't need 198 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.120 to be necessarily you know, like earlier in the season 199 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.879 that he might have had games where he wasn't necessarily 200 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.679 playing the best. But in the right moment, if there's 201 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:33.720 anyone on this team that you want on the ball, 202 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.799 you know, whether it's at midfield or thirty yards out 203 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.919 or a free kick, I'm hanging on the same hope 204 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.919 as everyone else is like when is this you know, 205 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.000 curse going to be taken? You know, when is he 206 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.919 going to step into the limelight. And so that was 207 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.000 the thought behind that. And then obviously what we realized 208 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.720 again with Andal going up there out there and exposing 209 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.919 some of their deficiencies in the back line is we 210 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:58.399 need to move to the back line a lot more 211 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.879 than we did, and the only way to do that 212 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.279 is to play behind the line, in other words, looking 213 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.759 for balls to get him behind, and that's not Techo's strength. 214 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.279 And just thought that teachers are very good pass of 215 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:12.000 the ball, and with Ando running what we'll create some chances. 216 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.720 And then the game did open up a little bit 217 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.000 there in the second half, but we want to be 218 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:17.919 more consistent with that heading into this next game. 219 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.840 So certainly I would never tell you how to do 220 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.759 your job. I will say this. I mean, obviously, if 221 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.120 you ever want to come in and do four hours 222 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:27.679 of radio, I'll go run training, Pablo. 223 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:29.559 We can we can do a straight what do they 224 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.120 call that? Like for like in soccer. 225 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.320 But it yeah, it felt like when you brought brodyon 226 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.679 and pushed a Mecca back to a centralized midfield role, 227 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.559 the team looked a little bit different. And look, he's 228 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.200 so good, you can move him around. But I mean 229 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:46.960 it's due or die of time, right, So I would 230 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.960 imagine moving forward, you like him Meccha centralizing the midfield. 231 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.080 Yeah, yeah, And again that's a byproduct of losing Bear 232 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.759 for three games, right. Just to be fair to Gervane, 233 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.000 I thought he did a fantastic job filling in for Bara. 234 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.600 But again, now from an attacking perspective, we don't have 235 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.879 the left foot that can play balls into those areas, 236 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:10.159 you know, from a more comfortable position. And so yeah, 237 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.679 you know, again, coaching is and oftentimes it's not from 238 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:17.159 a place of ideal, it's from a place of needs. 239 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.960 And in that particular case, a Mecca, we had a 240 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.919 Mecha out there to start because of how robust and 241 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.639 how quick they are on the counter and making sure 242 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:28.360 that we solidify that. But obviously, when a Mecca went 243 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.919 into the middle of the field, you know, the game 244 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.919 changed and we were able to penetrate centrally with him driving, 245 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.279 with him picking up second balls, and so our team 246 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.879 is completely different with a Mecca in the middle of 247 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:39.159 the field. 248 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.159 So now over to the most unfair media question of 249 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.480 all time, because your penalty kick situation before has worked 250 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.000 very well, and Justin Glad is the one that scored 251 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.159 the game winning penalty against Seattle. But you know the deal, 252 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.279 when it doesn't work, you've got to talk about it. 253 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.440 And I've heard from you know, we've had players on 254 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.759 the show and then Donny on the broadcast. Now I 255 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.720 believe you yourself, Pablo have talked about you know, not wanting 256 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.200 to have your Okay, here's my five, then here's my 257 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.679 next five, and having it scripted. Correct, So how do 258 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.360 you approach that situation? Kind of explain that to our listeners. 259 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:19.720 Yeah, no, I again, we did things different spend so 260 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:21.480 I went to get to my intuition, which is did 261 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.879 not have it scripted. And you know, obviously Chi sho 262 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:33.639 Gegoer got Anderson, and you know, we had two other 263 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.559 guys that were going to take one in front of 264 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:40.240 Justin Glad, Alex Catranis and Dominic, and both those guys 265 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.279 said that they were cramping and they didn't feel comfortable 266 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:44.639 taking it right, And so as a coach, and then 267 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:46.360 then you go to the next one and you say, 268 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.320 Jake Glad, you're ready to take one, and he said, yes, 269 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.240 you know, And so we had our five picked out 270 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.759 and the mecho was going to always be fifth. But 271 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:55.840 those are little situations again that you have to see. 272 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.080 There's a real time. So even though it was scripted 273 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.519 that we had Alex in there, then it's real time 274 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.320 and it's like, yeah, I just don't feel comfortable with 275 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.840 Mike growing. And then Dominic had a calf, and so 276 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.279 then what we need shooters, right, we need someone to 277 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.759 step up, and so you know, Jay Glad stepped up 278 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:14.200 and unfortunately didn't didn't make his But but again, I 279 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.080 think it's all it's all collaborative. It's not it's not 280 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.799 just you know, me going you're the five. It's it's 281 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.360 we had a five. And then when when two guys 282 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.000 kind of pull out and then you have to go 283 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.240 to the next guy, and then oh, hey, it was six, 284 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.480 and so yeah, but that's that's that's a part of it. 285 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:31.000 And you know, that's one of the things I've been 286 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.399 talking to players about is don't confuse the performance with 287 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.480 the result, right, especially when it comes to penalty gigs, 288 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.960 because it's really about tapping in a ball from twelve 289 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.440 yards out and and and for as easy as it 290 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.120 is on Tuesday, you know, with twenty thousand people in 291 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.519 the stadium and walking fifty yards to the ball, it's 292 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.679 it's a lonely place to be. And so if it's 293 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:49.879 if you're not confident, if you don't believe, if you 294 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.240 if you're not hitting the back of the net in 295 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.279 your mind before you step up to the ball, that 296 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.879 goal becomes a lot smaller and that that ball becomes 297 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:58.639 a lot bigger. Right, So you know, we'll work on 298 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.600 those again tomorrow. But I think we've seen the last 299 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.440 couple of weeks guys that we feel comfortable and not 300 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.799 that we feel comfortable, that they feel comfortable stepping up 301 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.799 and taking a piquet if it needs if we get 302 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:11.559 to that point. 303 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.919 So let's get into some bright spots from my perspective, 304 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.600 and then we'll talk about Saturday. Then I'll set you 305 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:21.440 loose today, uh, Dominick Dominic, Mark Zuke. You know, the 306 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.159 more and more I watch him, the more and more 307 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:25.159 I feel like there's a lot to like. He created 308 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.200 a couple of really really good chances. One to diego 309 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.840 that I thought the Saint Claire kid was good. I mean, 310 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:32.799 you got to tip your cap to their keeper, yep. 311 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.399 But I thought Mark Zuke had a really bright match. 312 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.840 For you tell me what you saw from your vantage point. 313 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.480 Yeah, no, he continues to impress. You know again, I 314 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.960 think a lot you know what you see on Saturday, 315 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.000 But for me, it's even deeper. It's a young man 316 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:50.360 that's coming across to a new country for the first 317 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.120 time in his life, moving away from his family and 318 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:58.279 all home, and learning how we want to play, learning 319 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.360 what this league is all about. Then exhibiting his skill sets, 320 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.200 and I think on offense, his ability to get forward 321 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.159 and look for his teammates in dangerous areas has been 322 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.759 a real real bright spot. And then defensively, his graft 323 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.000 to do all the work that and it's not it's 324 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.120 not always easy in this league because it's very there's 325 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.279 a lot of transition, but he seems to, you know, 326 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.080 hold his own in that department as well, and so 327 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:23.240 I think with time, you know, there's there's hopeful that 328 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:25.600 he will be one of the best wingers in this league. 329 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.080 And he's in with every game I see it play 330 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.799 with more and more confidence and the ability to name 331 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.039 for himself in this league. And then you know in 332 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:35.120 world football. 333 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:38.120 As well, several bright moments for Katronos are left back 334 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.240 and you know, he's kind of landed and solidified that spot. 335 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:43.879 And I know how much you trust him, but I 336 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:45.759 thought he was another bride spot on Tuesday. 337 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:46.960 Give me, give me your thoughts on that. 338 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.919 Yeah, No, I think Katronto's uh, you know, he's a gamer, 339 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.360 he's got he's got a great mindset, he competes the 340 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:58.120 right way, he's he's he's good going forward, and I 341 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.399 think more than anything else, the way he can impeded, 342 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.720 you know, against Minnesota on Tuesday was fantastic and and 343 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.720 I think that's what you know, it stifles their attack 344 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.720 on the right side when when he's aggressive, when he's 345 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.879 got the right mindset, when he's winning his duels, and 346 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.600 I think he did a great job of that. And 347 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.159 so both on the right with you know, Dominic and 348 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.039 on the left with with Katranis is it's critical for 349 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.559 us to be able to maintain control of the game 350 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:25.480 with and without the ball. 351 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.200 I was proud of Zach, you know, ultimately, like when 352 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:32.440 he took that to take a shot at that speed 353 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.000 in that weather, like he did right off his chest, 354 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:36.600 I was like, well, Zach's dead. They're gonna have to 355 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.519 you know, like I that looked. I mean, if you've 356 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:41.919 ever been hit with a soccer ball, it is it's 357 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.440 not awesome, and I'm sure it's happened to you several times. 358 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.360 But I thought he stepped up in a way that 359 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.919 silenced a lot of people that have just been crushing 360 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:51.600 him all year. 361 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.399 So little kudos to your keeper on a on a Thursday. 362 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.120 Yeah, yeah, no, I thought I thought it was a 363 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:00.879 fantastic performance, you know, And I think, you know, is 364 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:04.599 really interesting because again the obviously when you don't score goals, 365 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:06.039 there's not a lot of cheers on the on the 366 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.799 offensive side, but the amount of cheers coming from from 367 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.599 that side of the stadium every time he made a 368 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.839 save was was really profound. And and and again it 369 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.720 it it It gives the guys the boost that they need, 370 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.000 right because because again game of soccer is hard to 371 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.319 score goals and when you're keeper standing on his head 372 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.000 back there, and he's basically saying with his performance, we 373 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.640 got this guy's you know, and it instills belief in 374 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:31.519 the group and and it's not easy and and and oftentimes, 375 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.839 you know, we talk about, you know, given players confidence, 376 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.079 and what I think this is a really important point 377 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.480 with like with with all players in all sports, is 378 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.960 the coach gives you confidence by putting you on the field, 379 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:46.960 and you give the coach and the rest of the 380 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.079 team confidence by your performance. And so, you know, when 381 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.160 Zach was inserted back in the lineup, it wasn't like 382 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.519 we had this pow wow and like hey, Kumbai, everything's great. 383 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.000 It's go out there and show everyone right, go out 384 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.480 there and prove that you belong out here. And and 385 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.160 so that's you know, behind all the you know, the 386 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:05.920 so says that he made at the weekend. I'm just 387 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:10.319 proud of the responsibility he took and the confidence that 388 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:13.480 he that he that was derived from inside to show 389 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.319 what he's capable of doing when everyone else thought he 390 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:18.640 was he was you know, that that he shouldn't be there. 391 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.279 And so I think every every game, every training session 392 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.599 is an opportunity for players to bring confidence to themselves 393 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.279 by the way they apply the work and training, by 394 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:31.759 the way they apply the work in games. And and 395 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:35.920 now we have a really confident goalkeeper. We're you know, 396 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.440 five six weeks ago, you know, you and I were 397 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:40.160 on the phone talking about who's the number one and 398 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.119 who's who's performing great, and now it's it's clear that 399 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.400 zach Is is a guy that's ready for the moment. 400 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:48.000 Jay Glad and Oheeda I have been two of your 401 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.200