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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to season three, episode sixty eight of Clips and Dip.

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I am Chuck Buckler, joined by Adam Osland and William Updyke.

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It is officially the Clippers offseason. Four other teams going

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to be playing right now, which is happy for them.

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That's great, but we are still bringing you Clippers content.

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Thank you for listening, thank you for watching, if for

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checking us out at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast.

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Speaker 1: We got a.

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Speaker 2: Mailbag episode today. We have dips today because it is

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the offseason. If you're near to the show, we either

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make a dip or buy a dip, or then review it.

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Because the demand was just too high the first season,

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we didn't do it. Before we get into these fantastic

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listener questions, will Adam, how the hell are we feeling?

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It's been a bit of a weird week. Shay was

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named MVP of VITZA, Zubats named second Team All Defense.

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Some say Justin is difficult to win his MVP.

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Speaker 1: Adam, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm hanging in there. It has been a rough week.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people up upset, opening up old wounds

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with SGA and probably not over yet should they get

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to the finals or win the championship, that's when the

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maximum pain hits.

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Speaker 3: So yep, just got to deal with her right now.

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Speaker 2: Will Are you weeping in your shade jersey at work

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this week after the announcement?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean like it was a bummer, Like I

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think the thing that hurts even more is I think

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if you're a Clippers fan, you know in your heart

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right that even if that trade doesn't happen, if we

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don't give Shay up, I don't think he becomes an

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MVP with this team and the way that we've dealt

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with Tallent. So I'm not happy, but I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. So tell it, if you're honest.

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Speaker 5: With yourself, take a good hard look at take a

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good hard look in the mirror, and tell me that

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you think that this point, that this team like that

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this team would have developed Shay into an MVP.

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Speaker 4: I do think it's very circumstantial. Him getting to this

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point playing with CP three, his first year with Okase

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was big for him.

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Speaker 3: I think Shrewder was big for him too.

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Speaker 4: And then those guys all leaving and then he gets

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to take over and run the show for a twenty

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one team that expedites your development that could help.

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Speaker 5: Do I think that's that way happen VP. I just

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I think he's All Star for sure.

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Speaker 4: Because this is the most talented guy by far the

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Clippers have had over this span. I don't think Moosa

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is going to develop into an MVP. I don't think

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Brandon Boston's going to develop into an MVP. God help

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us if it happens. So it's kind of like, I

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don't know how to judge it because there's nobody else

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outside of SGA that had this level of talent that

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the Clippers had, and he was getting like twenty six

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minutes per game in that playoff series against the Warriors.

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Now does that mean Doc Rivers stays around? There's this

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whole butterfly fed Who knows. But I do think he

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would be one of the best players in the NBA.

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Whether or not he wins the MVP, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have one of the better defensive players

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in the NBA, as announced today, I eats A Zubats

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well deserved second Team All Defense Chris Dunns screwed out

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of this because of some technicalities, But I don't know.

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I think We all wish you maybe would have won more,

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but it's nice to see him get the recognition.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he could have been first team over Draymond,

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to be honest, but uh yeah that.

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Speaker 1: Was a legacy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was a really strong argument for

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him to be to be first team.

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Speaker 1: But again, it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, takes one year too long.

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Speaker 4: Takes one year too long for these guys, their legacy guys,

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to get out of that voting too. Maybe next year

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he is first team just because this year he worked

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Speaker 1: You know, there we go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Clippers want to do anything next year,

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all defense. Let's get into these questions. We got a

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lot of questions about existing guys. We got questions about

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new guys. If we don't read a name out just

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as a disclaimer, that means the question is from arc

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eight one eight, who sent us fifteen hundred questions.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We didn't do all of them.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start with existing guy questions from arc eight

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one eight. Should the Clippers move on from Ben Simmons,

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backup center kind of splitting time with him and Drew

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you banks, how are we feeling about that.

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Speaker 4: People won't say anything above a veteran's minimum, probably right.

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tax PAYAMID level on Ben Simmons with you know, he

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wasn't bad. In fact, he was good early on in

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the series, but then he kind of got phased out

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by the end of it. And it would be great

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if they had a more traditional backup big that they

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Speaker 3: It's not easy.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this many times, how many good backup

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bigs are there in the league, but it would be

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nice if they could find their best backup big since Hardenstein.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the traditional backup big thing him wanting yeah,

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any more than the vet men will. Would you go

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any higher than that? Because so for those of you

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who don't know, the Clippers have the non taxpayer mL,

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which is like fourteen million dollars, which yeah, I don't

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know about that.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think above of that. Man, it would

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work out. It's a bummer because it was ups and downs,

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but once again he got injured. You know, miss missed

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some significant time there. He was never going to play

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back to backs, coming in as late as he did.

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a little bit more like comfortability and time. And you know,

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ugly heads, some of the passiveness offensively. But there were

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some really great stretches of him, even in the playoffs

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in that row over Denver. I mean, he had a

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he had a solid stretch in that one, like and

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even like picking up yo getch you a couple of

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times uh that I thought was you know, like I

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thought was encouraging. I thought that that was promising. But

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it's just yeah, on a on an m L that

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just feels like too big of a gamble for me.

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just think that there's you know, because what's the vetman

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plus one on that, you know, with the player option

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on the second year, so he can, you know, if

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even stayed healthy for a full season, I think there

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would be offers out there. Like I think that there

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Speaker 2: And I like Adam You're point about the traditional backup big,

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because he's not. He's like a backup. He's like a

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combo piece. He's like a combo big, So it's not

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really a backup fight.

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Speaker 5: But he has the size and athleticism that they could

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out of the rotation. They were interested, you know, Chris

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really interested in using him as a facilitator and using

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him to push things in transition. But maybe you pivot

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to just just having him be in more of a

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traditional sort of center role and that other stuff is

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just kind of like sprinkling on top of and maybe

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but again, it's like it's kind of a gamble outside

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ybard. Part of him does intrigue me because

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the Clippers do like playing small and he can bring

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the ball up obviously very well. He gives you kind

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of a little bit of both worlds there. I wouldn't

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hate it if they brought him back. It's really more

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so about the health and then just the confidence of

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him on the offensive end, if he's willing to take shots.

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the innings eater, that'd be great. I just don't know

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if that's realistic based upon his health situation the last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the interest will be it's a week freehated class,

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like there's gonna be more interesting or not, just based

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on the fact that I guess in this case, lowering

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tide lowers all ships or something like that.

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Speaker 1: The inverse of this.

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Speaker 2: Next question from arc eight point eight, should the Clippers

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move on from Norm, extend him, or play this season out?

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Speaker 1: The season starts.

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but if he gets too close to a similar start

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playoffs and him coming back after being hurt and his

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play wasn't as strong as it had been early on

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in the season. I would still think his stock is

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pretty high and they might be able to do that

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this summer. So to answer the question and say, well,

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I'll tell you if they should move on from him

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or not. It's kind of tough, but I would be interested,

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depending on what you receive. I think that we've talked

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about him every summer U and he ends up staying

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with the Clippers and playing great, it could happen again,

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and I love Norm But I think if he wants

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he wants a three year extension or a four year extension,

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and that doesn't fit with the Clippers timeline where the

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only guy they have the summer of twenty twenty seven

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on the books right now, I think is a beat

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to zoobots. So if that's the case, and they can't

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come to a happy medium where he signs on for

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you know, another year after this one, which, look, he

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should get as much money as he can. He has

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earned it, he should take advantage of the season that

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he had, so I would not crush him at all

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wanting that money. I'm just saying it may not work

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with the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: It's like what Lawrence Frank was saying in that the

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Only exit interview was like, We're gonna talk with norm

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and see if it lines up, like big picture with

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all that stuff, but also like will they don't have

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to sign him imminently, like they can wait, I'm pretty

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sure to give him a deal if Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's not my head what the extension

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deadline is, but yeah, I'm that I think it just

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depends on what you're getting back. I see the value

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of you know, selling high for a player who's at

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like that twenty million dollar mark, which with the way

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the cap is going up, is like a very tradable contract.

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team would probably have to have a conversation about what

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an extension would look like. He is thirty two years old.

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next season starts. Uh this year, Yeah, and I mean

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this conversation almost every year, and I think this year

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we've said Norm is pretty indispensable. And I think again

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this year it's sort of like you just need to

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level set on what you want to do and what

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you want the next phase of this team that looks

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like right now, Yeah, it's like of what this team

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was like. And I mean this was a team that

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struggled to score. This was a team that really needed Norm.

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And you know, you don't know how many games you're

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going to get from Kawhi next season. You know there's

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going to be you know, the regression is uh, you

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know incoming for James, which not a knock on him,

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just you know, as he gets older. But I do think, yeah,

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I think you're picking up the phone. I think you're

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I think you're listening. But I think if it's if

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it's not a young asset and or a pick. I

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guess I would say just I mean, just ride it out.

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Speaker 1: For the season like that.

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Speaker 5: I guess that's my I guess that's my my stance currently.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you definitely don't lose him for nothing that

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that would be a problem. So I think it's more

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likely than he does get moved at some point because

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I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: You if you do sign to a deal, maybe because

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the CAP's going to go up every year, all that

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good stuff, that's still tradable before the you know, after

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next season, that's still a tradable contract. So it really

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does all add on, like what you were saying, it

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aligns with It depends on how he aligns with Lawrence

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Frank it's the biggest.

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Speaker 5: And just the mar I mean, and just the market

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like it's just I mean, you know, we've talked a

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lot about the free agent class, and you know that

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there's not a whole lot out there to outright signs.

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So are you a little bit more willing to give

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up a little And then I mean on the flip

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side of that, like you know, if that's a contender team,

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is that first round pick really worth your while, you know,

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if it's going to be a lower one. Anyways, I

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don't know a lot to think about, but I think

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they're definitely picking up the phone and half half been

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doing so. Oh No, I was just going to say that,

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I think they've been doing so more so than previously.

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Speaker 4: And even if he signed the extent, does that mean

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he's going to be here the entire time?

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Speaker 3: No, we just saw that with Terrence Mann last year totally.

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Speaker 4: If it's still a tradable contract, you know, he could

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still that could make him even more of an asset

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to some teams to see that he's not going to

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be a rental if they trade for him this year.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Hmm intriguing. All right, will what do we

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got next? On the questions.

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Speaker 2: One sech Let me pull up this supply people read

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the breakdown, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, So jo Josh Sexon wants to know. Since we're

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expecting the Clippers to run it back next season and

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we're likely going to see similar results in the regular

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season barring injury, what would you guys suggest the organization

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do in order to guard against Harden being a playoff dropper?

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Also shout out all the UK listeners.

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Speaker 2: I this might sound stupid, but I think we just

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have to hope that he doesn't like what is how

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do we I don't know what it means to get

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something like we get someone else to be really good

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in the playoffs instead of James Harden because I don't

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think that this.

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Speaker 5: To me gets so frustrating because.

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Speaker 2: If there was a switch to flip, I would flip

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it right, like we would all do that.

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Speaker 5: It will like and this is what I talked about

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in the playoffs, Like I just feel like his failure

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to address the media. I feel like it's like is

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like indicative of a deeper issue wherein he's not realizing

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the problem or he doesn't think that there's a problem

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and it's just a series of bad games or something.

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And like if you don't address it, I don't know

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how you ever expect to improve. And this is the

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thing that's so frustrating to me about players that are

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like the like the talent level that he is, Like

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you gotta be willing to, you know, take some feedback

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at times, and I feel like, yeah, this is like

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almost bordering on like a rust thing where it's like

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you're not the starter anymore. Obviously harder, and it is

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still at at like a starter level. But it's like,

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if these guys would be willing to like to pivot,

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to give up an inch, it could extend their careers

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and it could, you know, kind of change how they play.

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And I think that that's I think that that's how

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guys find value and how that's like that's why I

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think guys like CP three continue to be in the

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league despite the declining athleticism, despite you know, not being

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at the level, is they're willing to adjust their game.

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And that's what it's gonna take. That's what it's gonna

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take for him to be better in the playoffs. Is

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he willing to do that? I gotta be honest, it

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seems like a numb So.

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Speaker 3: The thing is with him, is it adjusting his game.

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Speaker 4: Or is it because it's not like this is new

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and it's something that he's had with age and he

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can't do the stuff he used to do. It's the

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same stuff that he does well in the regular season,

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the same stuff that he does well earlier in the series.

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In fact, even as late in the series as Game six,

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where he had a spectacular performance. And I'm not just

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gonna write off the fact that he played forty seven

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minutes I think in that Game six, and that didn't

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have some effect on him in Game seven, what in

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an early start, two days later, whatever it was, one

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day off in between.

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Speaker 3: There is something to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now you look at elimination games or game sevens

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with hard and and he's shooting like thirty five percent

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in his career. There seems to be something mental there

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going on. And maybe the best you can do is

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bring in somebody that can relieve some of the playmaking

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duties for not just another option if he's not having

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a great game, but also give him the best chance

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of being fresh out there in the biggest moments, so

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the tired legs late in the series are less of

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an excuse. I don't know that's the direction i'd go.

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But how many years have you been in the league now? Fifteen?

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Speaker 3: Something like that?

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Speaker 5: We see it seems like it seems like he has

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trouble adjusting to once the defense has figured him out.

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It's really hard to play a team seven times. It's

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really hard to beat the same team four times. And

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like you know, he has these things that he can

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rely on in the regular season because you're not seeing

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the same team night after night after night. But like

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when someone studied film on you, you have to be

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able to like adjust and move in the moment a

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little bit more. And I just like, for whatever reason,

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I just don't think that he's been able to do that.

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I don't think that he's been able to pivot as well.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Like he's an analytics monster, which means threes and layups

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and there's not much in between, thanks Mike D'Antoni. And

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that game maybe is something that's easier to figure out

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as the series goes along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like if the guy, if the guy handling the

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ball has two options or two go tos. I mean

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it's like a little bit easier for a defense to

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figure out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know now if guys are knocking down shots.

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Is he did have thirteen assists in that game seven

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he could have had more if guys were hitting their

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shots when he is creating good looks off of that

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off of those actions, so they go, well, then we're

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not talking as much about Harden, but you have a

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game where twenty seven straight missed three pointers by the

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Houston Rockets in that game seven and Chris Dunn and

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DJ missing shots in that game seven for the Clippers.

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Just like there's a lot of different factors, but ultimately

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he's a top seventy five player of all time. You

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got to be accountable. He hasn't been good enough in

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elimination games. He's had in great playoff series. He's had

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great playoff games. It's the elimination games that he's had

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some real low points.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately for him, especially like at this stage of

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his career, the Clippers just we rely on him to

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score more than you would like to for where he's

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part of two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we need him to be Like.

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Speaker 5: Like if him just getting to fifteen assists would would

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be enough to like lift the Clippers in an elimination game, ooh,

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that'd be great, But like he needs to have twenty

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five plus that and you know that's like it's just

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a tall order.

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Speaker 4: I think that was part of the reasoning of why

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when they brought him in last year. It was to

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just be the main playmaker for Kawhi and Paul George

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and not put as much on him scoring wise. Therefore

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he could age more gracefully and not have to have

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so much on his plate.

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Speaker 3: But this year obviously that changed.

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Speaker 4: And if no Norman pals better, does that help James Harden.

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We're not talking about this, you know. So it's not

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just James. There's a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 2: He's also I want to play a guy, which is

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admirable for a team like the Clippers. Obviously, he's the

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same way when you have these extra miles that I

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want to play in the regular seasons, awesome, and then

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you maybe see how it maybe catches up with a

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team that relies on older stars in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like we've been a little down on

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him in this segment. I just also want to say,

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like love and love what James Harden did in the

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regular season. Like I mean, this team, this team does

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not get to fifty wins without him. I mean, he

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was you know, he was so instrumental to what this

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team is. It's just like I said, it's just kind

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of difficult or frustrating to watch guys as good as

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he is sort of struggle in like in the exact

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same way a year after year after year.

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Speaker 4: He did get one fifth place vote for m v P,

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which tied him with a few other guys. So he

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finished somewhere around tenth in MVP voting.

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Speaker 5: Take it.

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Speaker 2: You know people people don't bring that up when they

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talk about the shade trade. All right, last question before

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we take a quick little break. Should Chris Dunn continue

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to start or should the Clippers look at making a change?

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Speaker 5: Adam, this is your guy. I want to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Chris Dunn is my guy. I'll claim him. I do

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like Chris Dunn.

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Speaker 1: I think continue to start.

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Speaker 4: I think, well, what's I don't know. Where was the

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roster going to look like? It depends if they're bringing.

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Speaker 1: In starting lineup. You're saying, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: Bogie is going to be in the starting lineup in

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place of Chris Done. Bogey has definitely been my guy.

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I think a lot could change if, like we talked

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about earlier, they made a move with Norm Powell, and

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if they brought in that four that can start next

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two beats to see bouts Now you're talking about, yeah,

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possibly bring in somebody else outside of Chris Dunn. But

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the reason he's there is because they think his point

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of attack defense wears on people and the ball handling duties,

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so that stuff could remain the same. That logic could

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stay the same if James Harden is also still there,

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which you never know, like he has an option. What

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if he opts out and he wants three years and

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was like, man, we can't do three, we can do two.

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You just don't know who's going to be coming back

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next year in that starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't. I mean.

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Speaker 2: Because the difference, like if looking at it all things

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as they are right now, it would the move would

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be you bring in Done or not you put Done

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on the bench and then you bring Derek Jones Junior in,

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So it's Norman the two Kawhid, Derek Jones and then

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Zoo or something like that. But I don't know, I

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don't really know what the change is. Right, we're gonna

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get in a new guy questions after the break, but

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he is really number DJ. Yeah, that's true too, and

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just about the same total minutes, right, didn't we figure

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that out too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was back when that conversation was being had,

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like a month and a half before the end of

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the regular season. The numbers were very close with minutes

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played in the starting lineup. But I think they were

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looking at some intangibles and It's not like the Chris

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Dunn numbers were bad. It was DJ's numbers are even

479
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better next to these guys.

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Speaker 1: The summer work will be interesting too. Out of the shot.

481
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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not the hesing drastically, not that

482
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either Derek Jones Junior or Chris Done I expect to

483
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like drastically improve a three point shot, but they see

484
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where they fit where the detriments were in the playoffs

485
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at least, so.

486
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Speaker 4: I could see a situation where one of them is

487
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moved where they're just too similar in that way because

488
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neither shined, you know, in a real way in that

489
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playoff series from three. And I could see that, like

490
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there's too much redundancy going on with those two. But

491
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it's also kind of one of those good problems to have.

492
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You want guys like that. It just would be nice

493
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if one of them was more consistent from three.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, any final thoughts on Kristin.

495
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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I like the idea of like, is

496
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it too much of an overlap between DJ and him?

497
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But we did see some really great stuff from Done.

498
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It's it's a bumb of a three point shooting, wasn't there.

499
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It's a that he you know, he wasn't seeing much

500
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time sort of by the end of that series.

501
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Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough.

502
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Speaker 5: But another guy who you know was definitely a floor

503
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racer during during the regular season.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, needing to set that done to all right, coming up,

505
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Thank you for all the questions, by the way for

506
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sending these into at Clippers spot on Twitter and at

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new guys and then we will talk about dips in

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guy questions in three two.

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Speaker 5: What all right? Welcome back into this special mail bag

514
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episode of Clips and Dip. You know, we took some

515
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some questions about the roster as is. Now we're looking

516
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at some of the some new guys. Califula wants to

517
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know what is a bigger need a big A big

518
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to compliment a big to compliment Zoo because DJ doesn't

519
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,640
get enough playing time, or a PG to spell Harden,

520
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:09,079
allow Harden to play off ball at times, Spell.

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Speaker 1: Well, I get in trouble with Now.

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Speaker 5: I just spell Harden. I don't know what that means.

523
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Speaker 2: I think Adam kind of talked me into it. It might

524
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be the point guard. We very much need a backup big,

525
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but again, we're gonna play. He's gonna probably play are

526
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over another guard. Come on, Yeah, that's true. Well, the

527
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question was for this question specifically of compliment to Zoo.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess four. There's just no good fours.

529
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Speaker 5: I think I four would compliment Zoo because he needs

530
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some help on the defensive end. He's great, but he

531
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can't do everything.

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just that's gonna be the harder guy to find.

533
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,839
He has to be able to shoot. Those guys make

534
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,200
a lot of money. Uh, wars are Aaron Gordon. There's

535
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one Aaron Gordon. Everybody's asking themselves that after he just has.

536
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his leg might be man.

537
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Speaker 3: He gouted that out in game seven Man Warrior.

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think just with what's out there.

539
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But it's not like the point guard that.

540
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Speaker 5: We don't need another guard to unlock Zoo. We have

541
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the point guard that's unlocked Zoo.

542
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Speaker 2: Well we know that Zoo's unlocked, but Harden does need

543
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some rest, but he also won't rest.

544
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they have a good enough guard,

545
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,160
it could force his hand coach Los hand to get

546
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,839
him more rest. And just the other part of this

547
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,119
is he played such heavy minutes early in the season

548
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,279
because Kawhi wasn't back yet well or under the belief

549
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480
Kawhi will be with them hopefully healthy and training hopefully

550
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healthy to start the season. That could take down some

551
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of the minutes from James Harden. And then if you

552
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add in a guy who's competent that's backing him up,

553
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that maybe is on the younger side, that would really help.

554
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Speaker 1: Plus Kershan Yabuseli coming in at the four, we're good.

555
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Speaker 3: A plus summer look.

556
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Speaker 1: Clivers win the offseason yet again.

557
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: Dangerously close to Chuman on Mic right now, dangerously close.

558
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: But if you chew your dips on Mike, you will

559
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be muted. I think we're putting time out for ten minute.

560
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Speaker 5: What I don't think it's ten minutes, but it's a

561
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couple of minutes for sure.

562
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Speaker 2: Ten would be really funny, all right, joy Bella asks,

563
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,519
we were so close. It feels like Santiel Damas seems

564
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,200
like he could do wonders for this team. Is he

565
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:54,880
worth the full non taxpayer mid level exception. We won't

566
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yell at him like Baine so al damas a restricted

567
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free agent who made less than formally a dollar last year.

568
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,359
But it seems like he's in line to get a

569
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much higher rate this season, and it might be more

570
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than fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Million dollars per year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be.

573
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Speaker 2: To have santieldamo, but I think he'll get more than

574
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fourteen million offered to him.

575
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Speaker 4: I haven't been able to get a gauge on just

576
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,799
how good he is defensively if he's playing the four. Uh.

577
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Some people are saying, you know, he's solid, he's a

578
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,079
try hard guy. He's not great, but he can in

579
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,720
theory guard a few different positions. But a lot of

580
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it's just based off the fact that like Triple J

581
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is out there and they have enough like defense that

582
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might insulate him. So we don't know how good he

583
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is now. If you're playing next to Beats Zubos, does

584
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that matter as much if kawhis you're sandwiching between the

585
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,279
beats of Zubos and Kawhi, maybe you're okay, But I

586
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do think you know the shooting's there, that's obvious. How

587
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good is he defensively that's I really would love to

588
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know there's a Memphis Grizzlies fan watching this pod. Let

589
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us know, so we no if we want to steal

590
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your guy or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, because I mean defensively is also

592
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where you make your bones as the four in the

593
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tier lineup.

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Speaker 1: I just think he'll get offered more.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the hustle fits right like that, like Adam,

596
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like you said, But I just think he'll probably get

597
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offered more and they can match anything.

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Speaker 1: That he's offered because he's restricted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not getting him.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, great question. Will What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Do you have something to save this take or do

602
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you think that we can get him we throw on

603
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a couple in and out coupons.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it just fully depends on the market.

605
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But I mean I love the I love the idea

606
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the acquisition. You know, I've loved a lot of the

607
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ideas of some of the acquisitions and trades that people

608
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have sent. It's just like it, like you know, when

609
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the rubber hits the road, is that really realistic?

610
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Speaker 4: Well?

611
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Speaker 2: Like also, he's one of the few good power forwards

612
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on the market.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he shoots like he shoots like thirty from

614
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960
three like true six to eleven like I don't know, man,

615
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,519
that's uh, it checks a lot of boxes for the Clippers.

616
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:15,960
I mean, if you could get it done for that,

617
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I would. I'm I'm fully on board.

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Speaker 4: I think they would rather trade Ja Morant than let

619
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Aldama go. I think he's viewed as being in the

620
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larger timeline as they're going to give Triple J an

621
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extension this summer, and they'd rather trade Bane or Ja

622
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Morant than let him go.

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll figure something out to get up

624
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:41,920
to the Clippers. It would be a great fit. Love

625
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640
the scouting joy Bella, I mean yeah.

626
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Speaker 5: Absolutely elite scouting. I love like, I love the idea

627
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of this acquisition.

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Speaker 6: I just.

629
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Speaker 5: I just don't I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

631
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Speaker 2: Here's another question, uh that it's kind of like a

632
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:02,359
glimpse into why the new I think CBA makes trading difficult.

633
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Rudy's of Ala asks also, Rudy, hope you're doing well.

634
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Used to send us questions. I'd locked on clips. Rudy's

635
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,480
been listening forever. Hey, guys, would a trade of Pale

636
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,599
and a second round pick to the Rockets for Tarry

637
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:19,200
Eastern or Jabari Smith junior work. No is the answer,

638
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:26,079
and I will tell you why, just based on financials alone,

639
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,720
everything else taken out of it. Tarry Easton makes five

640
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,880
point seven million next year, Jabari Smith at twelve point

641
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,319
three million. So norm doesn't work for either of these guys,

642
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,160
since after this trade they'd be over the first Apron

643
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and they'd only be able to take back one hundred

644
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,039
percent of the salary that they're about moved.

645
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Speaker 1: Can't see that. You can't combine it. And also they

646
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:46,480
wouldn't do that.

647
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd trade one guy even if

648
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,519
it did work for or to be honest.

649
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Fair, but this is also why trading with the Aprons

650
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,039
is they need scorers. They do need scorers. But this

651
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,480
is why trading with the new Apron stuff can be

652
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,480
a pain. Is mostly what I was trying to illustrate

653
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
with this question. I don't think they do the trade

654
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,480
either way, but financially it's like not, it's not possible.

655
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,279
Speaker 5: Wait, why is their cap situation so shit?

656
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's total shit. Let me look,

657
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,400
you're spinning tobacco.

658
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh, but yeah, I don't think they do it, Adam.

659
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Speaker 1: To your point, I don't think they do it.

660
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: If done deal it works for the rules.

661
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Speaker 4: I think they have bigger plans if they're going to

662
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,039
trade one of those guys or both of them. The

663
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:44,960
Houston Rockets bigger than the scoring, but they're also a

664
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,799
very young team, and those are really good assets.

665
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Speaker 1: Those are good assets.

666
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Speaker 2: And to answer why their cap is shit, Fred van

667
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,400
Fleet's got a forty four million dollar option next year,

668
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Dolan Brooks, Dylan brook is making twenty one million Jalen

669
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Green deals.

670
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Speaker 5: I forgot about the overpays and then the like high

671
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,559
graphics and how.

672
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Green goes to thirty three, Sengoon goes to thirty four,

673
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:13,360
Reed Shepherds at ten, Jabari Smith Juniors at twelve, Amn

674
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,119
Thompson's at ten. I mean that would be cool if

675
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:18,920
they that did work, but I don't like. I don't

676
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:27,119
think they do it. What about two seconds? Good fits though,

677
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,239
again great scouting by the listeners.

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Speaker 3: I don't need the seconds as much slippers do. Right, Yeah,

679
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,840
they have the young guys.

680
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they need the seconds. Adam, what's

681
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,679
this next question? We got?

682
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Speaker 4: This next one is coming from?

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Speaker 3: Who is this coming from? Oh?

684
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Speaker 1: The guy who answer?

685
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Speaker 4: Who?

686
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,159
Speaker 1: Asked, all of them are eight one eight?

687
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Speaker 3: This is the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

689
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Speaker 3: Why why is mine all jumbled? I don't see his name?

690
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Speaker 1: It's not crazy?

691
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: Is this how we find out?

692
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Adam read.

693
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: The question?

694
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 4: Is I was looking for?

695
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,039
Speaker 3: Who asked it?

696
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 4: Should Clippers take on the risk of an older and

697
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,000
often injured player like Malcolm Brogden.

698
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: They already have once?

699
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: How high is the risk?

700
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 4: How much were we talking like he was coming off

701
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:31,360
making twenty million? Now he's an unrestricted free agent? Does

702
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,639
if you can get him on the minimum? That's not

703
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,000
I'm sure mL?

704
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:41,079
Speaker 5: Is he an MLIGETI the full EML No?

705
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,599
Speaker 1: No, not full five like Adam, like yours act the

706
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:47,440
vet like.

707
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,679
Speaker 4: I wonder what his market is, where his health sat,

708
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960
how much of it was just scratches because he was

709
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,880
on the Washington Wizards last year, like.

710
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,639
Speaker 2: He always that's what teams are going to, like have

711
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440
a market like it always feels like teams are kind

712
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,400
of like poking around about Malcolm Brogden.

713
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: He's serviceable and doesn't have a ton of flaws for

714
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,440
a guard. You know, he can defend, he can shoot,

715
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,800
he's got some size, he's nice.

716
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:20,159
Speaker 1: Will you went on Brogden?

717
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,159
Speaker 3: Sure?

718
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 5: I'm tired. I'm tired of.

719
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: More annoying. It over more annoying.

720
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,519
Speaker 2: John Collins saga, Malcolm Brogden, saga.

721
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: At least it's a Malcolm.

722
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 5: Malcolm Brogden want to like? Actually it happened, so I'll

723
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,079
say that, John.

724
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: Collins, Oh man, how about that? Miles Turner? What if

725
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,039
we made a move for him.

726
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: Sign them to thirty five million a year in CRE agency?

727
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,679
Speaker 1: Okay?

728
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,519
Speaker 2: Thoughts on Pat Beverley being brought back as the third

729
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:00,760
stream guard?

730
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Why, I think no? Just can we put a guy

731
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,719
who might play there.

732
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,519
Speaker 3: Who's just being considered the second guard here?

733
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: That's how bad Patrick Beverley is now, so like you

734
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,719
can slot anybody else into the in the second. I

735
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,039
don't like him as the second guard either. How about that?

736
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,480
I like it less as him as the backup point guard.

737
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite all time clippers.

738
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's I agree.

739
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,119
Speaker 4: I don't know where he's at physically. If I knew that,

740
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,760
I'm good.

741
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:40,159
Speaker 1: When did he last play?

742
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,199
Speaker 4: I think last year was his first year out where

743
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:45,800
he played for Israel?

744
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Right, which how many games was that even he had

745
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,079
to leave?

746
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,039
Speaker 4: He's potting a lot right now that we've.

747
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Been through the podcast.

748
00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 2: I mean, no more Potters on the team, honestlyring him

749
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,760
on as a consultant coach, bring him on as like

750
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,519
a guy who only like is there for practice and

751
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:06,159
home games.

752
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Don't bring him on the roster. That'd be cool.

753
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: Pat Bev or Patty Mills.

754
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: I think, man, I think Mills because of the podcast effect,

755
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,119
because I think Pat Bev talking about the team, I

756
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:25,760
don't think he would be a just but like, I

757
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400
just don't. I don't want the I don't want Pat

758
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Bev to be not playing and maybe forming opinions about how.

759
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 5: He's like a barstool guy. I'm going Patty Mills here.

760
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,559
Speaker 1: You're going to about him. Both phenomenal options. Not really

761
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:41,679
a loss with either one.

762
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,039
Speaker 3: Obviously, I don't have to answer my own question.

763
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: In fact, I refuse. I believe.

764
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: They're both minimum guys. You can't go wrong. I would take.

765
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Patty Mills is so great for content. I mean Pat

766
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,599
Bev is too.

767
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: I just want towel content during the playoffs was one

768
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,639
of my favorites, that.

769
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: They come out a little less flat in a big game.

770
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,159
If Pat Bev is there, I'm just wondering, I said,

771
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,559
he's the guy starting on the floor. I'm just saying,

772
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:26,920
could he rally a little bit off the bench?

773
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, so that's what's tough too, is now that he's

774
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,519
been removed from the game a little bit, you know

775
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:35,360
what I mean, Like he's been off for a year.

776
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,119
I think it might the spirit would be there, but

777
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,639
maybe it would hit it would fall on ears differently.

778
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:45,320
If it's like, dude, you like, this is the one

779
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,039
thing you're being paid for to fire us up for

780
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,440
this game seven, which already doesn't feel great, since we

781
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:52,480
need this to be fired up for game.

782
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,679
Speaker 4: Seven, I'm just not complaining. If he's on the team,

783
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,599
we put it that way.

784
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: I would always bring him.

785
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: In as a coach if he wants to, let's do

786
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,119
that run and sand with the Tims like you did

787
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,000
that one time. Or maybe not because that might have

788
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:08,320
contribute to Jason Tamson.

789
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:10,559
Speaker 1: All right.

790
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: Should the Clippers draft someone at thirty or use the

791
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,719
pick in a trade? Should we trade more first round picks?

792
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,159
I think they should only use that pick in the

793
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,119
trade if they're somehow moving up three spots, Like what

794
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:26,199
do we do it's the thirtieth, Like, I don't know

795
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:29,119
what's the value of that pick.

796
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: If it squeeze the deal for a good trade, I'm

797
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,119
good with trade again. Yeah, I don't know how deep

798
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:43,199
this draft necessarily is. I've heard some people say it is.

799
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 3: Who knows. I just I'll tell you what.

800
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's and I don't think it's thirty

801
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,079
players deep.

802
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you can find some dimes in the rough.

803
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,199
Speaker 1: That's true.

804
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: Historically somethings have they have.

805
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Yes, they found some other things on the rough.

806
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: They found some rough in the rough.

807
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't know how tall Daniel Duor was. Yeah,

808
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:10,199
we're gonna have some draft the drafts of like a

809
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440
month Wow, a new season of the show, and about Crazy.

810
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

811
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: I think they should keep it all right, Any final thoughts,

812
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,719
thank you for the questions. By the way, everybody, any

813
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,360
final thoughts will on the draft backup point guard.

814
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna hit it out of the park

815
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:27,840
at thirty.

816
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:32,119
Speaker 2: So don there we go. Love the optimism, all right.

817
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:35,000
Coming up, one more thing about Kaminga I wanted to

818
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,039
talk about because we didn't bring it up when we

819
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,840
were talking about Minga and then dip talk after a

820
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,840
quick audio break.

821
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Coming up in three two.

822
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: One welcome back in it's clips and dip an off

823
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:50,320
season addition. So we'll get to our dips in just

824
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,159
a little bit here.

825
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm atam Miles.

826
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: When we got Chuck Marklin and Will up Tech, we

827
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320
talked about Kmingo a little bit on the last show,

828
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,800
and they were kind of differing opinions, but we maybe

829
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,199
landed in the same spot, like.

830
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe for the right price. Cool.

831
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: Apparently the right price for him was not one hundred

832
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,920
and fifty million dollars, which he was reported to be

833
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,880
offered before the season started, a five year, one hundred

834
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,880
and fifty million dollar contract prior to this twenty twenty

835
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,320
four to twenty twenty five NBA season. What is that

836
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,000
over thirty MILLI a year? And he didn't take that,

837
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,639
so he bet on himself. Is he worth more or less? Now?

838
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,599
Speaker 3: Chuck? You think?

839
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,519
Speaker 2: I think it was a mistake for him financially to

840
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,239
not have taken that deal, is how I view it.

841
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: That's a pretty sweet deal.

842
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 5: I wonder though, if it was more about like maintaining

843
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,199
some sort of autonomy or mobility in terms of where

844
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,800
he could end up than necessarily just the financials of

845
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,719
the deal, because it does seem like there has been

846
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:01,679
sort of a disconnect and some discontent between him, uh

847
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,920
and the organization. It just seems like they are not

848
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,920
aligned and maybe, you know, maybe it had more to

849
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,119
do with that than the actual number. If he is

850
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:18,480
looking for more after not you know, after not being

851
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,599
featured in the rotation, I feel like that was a

852
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:25,920
huge mistake. But if he if he was more hoping

853
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,480
to maintain some sort of maneuverability, I think that that's interesting.

854
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah. I mean, for reference, he made seven

855
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:35,559
million dollars.

856
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: He made basically six and a half million dollars per

857
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,719
year the last four years, so he really did bet

858
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,679
big on himself.

859
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's getting that.

860
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,159
Speaker 4: The max Clippers, the max he can get is two

861
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,920
hundred and twenty four million, and he's not getting that.

862
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,559
Speaker 3: Is he getting more than one fifty though MILLI year?

863
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: He had thirty points the last couple of games in

864
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,239
the playoffs. He's very very intriguing because I do think

865
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,400
this could be a situation where he was just in

866
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,639
the worst spot for his skill set. He happened to

867
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:21,760
be there, and they also for whatever reason, didn't like him.

868
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,679
And teams are gonna have to vet that and see

869
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,480
if there's attitude issues or anything else going on.

870
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,679
Speaker 3: But man, I would think, you.

871
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: Know, money plays if he had taken the deal, would

872
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,079
that for Steve Kerr to have to play him more? Like,

873
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:37,159
we gave him this deal regardless if we want to

874
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,039
trade him now, we need to at least show what

875
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,480
he can do. He's got to play some we're paying

876
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:44,440
him this money, So.

877
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 5: That's that's a great point.

878
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 4: I would think he gets around the same, maybe a

879
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,800
little bit less, maybe he gets one twenty.

880
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: I think it's.

881
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: That's what he want, That's all he wanted.

882
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were screwing me. Yeah, a lot of people.

883
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,119
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be a four year contract because

884
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:08,880
can't all the teams only offer him four years?

885
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,679
Speaker 1: Can't? Wasn't the words and the only team able to

886
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,280
offer him.

887
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:15,199
Speaker 4: Five that I think you're yeah, I think that. Well

888
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920
that sounds right, Yeah, that sounds right.

889
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: He just wanted because he's a big Tech nine fan.

890
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,639
Speaker 2: Hey, we will not disparage the good name of Caribou

891
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:31,480
Lou on this podcast. Man, So uh yeah, four for

892
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,199
one four for one hundred was again one of the

893
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,199
chatter is for Kamenica.

894
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I know Jose fry Ward was in on it. Justin

895
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,760
Russo called me insane for talking.

896
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,519
Speaker 2: About this on the last episode, So it would be

897
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:48,840
polarizing people would there would be flags planted.

898
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,199
Speaker 1: If the Clippers.

899
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Made a trade for cominga and he was making and

900
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,320
he was on a four for one hundred.

901
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: For one hundred, I think you didn't like that. I

902
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,599
would do that four for one.

903
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: Hundred, I feel like seems pretty reasonable.

904
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:07,159
Speaker 4: Twenty five year is it a player option in the

905
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,960
fourth year? Pull that receipt.

906
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: Three for one ten. That's where okay, three for one

907
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,519
ten feels a little crazy.

908
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:17,599
Speaker 1: That's a lot over year.

909
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but it's.

910
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: That's over thirty a year. That's where I get a.

911
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: Little He's only taking up in the big picture view

912
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,679
of oh, summer of twenty twenty seven, they're going to

913
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,400
have all this money.

914
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,679
Speaker 3: They're still gonna have a lot of money.

915
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: It would still just be Himan to beat to Zoo

916
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Bots in our contract, and he'd be in this final year.

917
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,079
Speaker 5: It would probably be a two plus one. So you

918
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,239
could either keep like, you know, if he opts in, right,

919
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,199
I mean, unless he's total shiit, like you know, you

920
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,280
get to you get to keep him in by the

921
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,159
time the cap has raised, you know, like several years

922
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:51,960
down the road. It's pretty it's a more insignificant amount

923
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,400
of money, or you know, he can opt out take that.

924
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Justin Rousseau, No, we love you, justin thank you for

925
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:09,039
listening to the pod. Yeah, I just him turning it down.

926
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,519
Speaker 2: It was like, because that, in my head plays into

927
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,360
the maybe he's just kind of annoying to be.

928
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,639
Speaker 1: Around factor, which is a very real lot.

929
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: I mean that's a lot of money. That's a lot.

930
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:20,559
I could not say no to that.

931
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really got a value where you're going. If

932
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,519
you're going from a twenty four million dollar contract total

933
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:28,840
to a.

934
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: One fifty million dollar contract.

935
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,519
Speaker 4: Like, maybe the issue is too many years, you know,

936
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,519
maybe five years is too many. He wants to like

937
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,400
a two year prove it period on a team that

938
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000
will actually play him, and then he could get over

939
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:48,119
two hundred million dollars.

940
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

941
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,119
Speaker 2: And that would line up with the Clippers if you

942
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:57,280
were to sign a two year thing of the trade hmmm.

943
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 4: I wonder if they would match though that too, because

944
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,079
they're kind of a two year If you look at

945
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:06,480
where Jimmy Butler and Steph and Draymond's contracts end.

946
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: Well, their cap is, their their books are. I haven't

947
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,199
looked a bunch of it, but I can't imagine they're good.

948
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:14,719
There's a lot of flexibility with the Warriors right now,

949
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,679
considering Yeah, Butler makes like sixty.

950
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,159
Speaker 3: Mill lakes always paid.

951
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: It's him and Balmer that this new CBA is really

952
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:26,599
trying to stop, and he seems to be a fan

953
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,840
of Kamingo. There may be disconnect between the owner and

954
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,000
the actual front office and coaching staff and players, but

955
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,280
I think the owner, you know, has a pretty big

956
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,039
say in these things.

957
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,599
Speaker 1: All right, interesting, Well for the chaos, maybe be cool.

958
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: All right, any final comena thoughts before we get to

959
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,079
our dips.

960
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 5: I gotta go running, grandmad give me one.

961
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Second, all right, we'll vamp.

962
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm a fan, I'm interested.

963
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: I think the idea of having somebody that's a mystery

964
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:02,760
box type of player with very high upside this era

965
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,440
of Clippers basketball would be refreshing for a lot of people.

966
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: It'd be as Yeah, I mean, since there's no draft picks,

967
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,639
this is what the Clippers have to do from a

968
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,280
young exciting perspective is take a sway.

969
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been saying like you, I think you're going

970
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:20,920
to have to take a risk if you're going to

971
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,320
bring in some young guy with that big upside. It's

972
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,119
also it also means that it's not a sure thing

973
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:26,920
at all.

974
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's a young guy, Like these things can

975
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,159
always change.

976
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,039
Speaker 4: I do think the young guys are established, he's not, right.

977
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: That's a great point. And he's also you know, the

978
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Clippers are very heavy veteran led team, as are the Warriors.

979
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,280
So I wonder if how those you know, because like

980
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,559
the vibe check has to be passed a little bit, right,

981
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,480
So like how does he fit into a team like

982
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,400
the Clippers where they're also kind of closing the window?

983
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:55,719
How successful as a window obviously?

984
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,039
Speaker 7: Like right, yeah, he'll be remembered about the same like well,

985
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,119
like shit, we might pick their popcorn flavor. It's it'll

986
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:14,880
be interesting to see how that is at play toominga.

987
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,039
Speaker 4: Starting at power forward to figure out him.

988
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean that's.

989
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,599
Speaker 1: Well, we get ten games of Derek Joe Shooter eventually.

990
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

991
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:31,199
Speaker 4: Probably, that's another I think good reason to do. It's

992
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,880
not just that he's a young player. He's a position

993
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,559
of Indeed, I know he's played some small forward too,

994
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,400
and like, isn't that why.

995
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 5: Do we talked all? Like we all talk ourselves into that.

996
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,440
I feel like we can't. That was one of those

997
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,079
ones where we really like we started like kind of

998
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,679
luke warm on it and then really talked ourselves into it.

999
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: We sold ourselves to the car, is what we did.

1000
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,079
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm for it.

1001
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: Here's a problem, like he's the thirty three three point shooter.

1002
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,079
He doesn't fit the Hey a guy starting next to

1003
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,960
to you that can shoot? Also, then it's like more

1004
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,480
pressure that you have to start making chots right now because.

1005
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: Of the position we put you in.

1006
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, I don't know.

1007
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 3: I'm interested.

1008
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested too. Okay, dips we had a lot

1009
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,880
of hype. Well, Adam didn't do any hype for his dip.

1010
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,599
Will had hype for his dip before we started. I

1011
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:25,760
made a delicious dip that was users submitted.

1012
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: Telling you were digging in and knew it must have

1013
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:28,880
been good.

1014
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh I finished it.

1015
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,199
Speaker 2: It's like, well, the the cheating rounds that I was

1016
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:34,119
eating are gone.

1017
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,639
Speaker 1: Uh, who would like to go first? Who would like

1018
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:40,840
to share their dip first? I'll know, all right?

1019
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,599
Speaker 5: All right? So I just gotta. I just gotta preface

1020
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:46,119
this with and you guys get to make the call.

1021
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,119
I'm either breaking I mean, breaking the breaking the rules

1022
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:54,440
here something right now, breaking the rules here I'm cheating,

1023
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,480
or I'm covering new ground that we have not yet

1024
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:02,639
approached in the clips and dip sphere. All right, So

1025
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:05,880
I'll start with my chip A little unconventional on this one.

1026
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,960
Have some assorted sashimi here. Wow, I'm counting this as

1027
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,840
dip number one. I've gotta. I've got a trio of

1028
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,639
dips going on here. Dip number one. You'll notice it's

1029
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:22,679
covered in some delightful per a cocka seasoning. Okay, part

1030
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,079
that's part one. Dip two, I've never had this before.

1031
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,519
This is a Korean spicy cocktail sauce I cannot pronounce.

1032
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,400
I'm so sorry. And dip number two is gonna be

1033
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:39,480
a wait, just a yeah, Dip number three. Really, it's

1034
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:42,159
just gonna be a classic masabi paste that I have

1035
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,440
mixed with some some Swiss sauce, a light Swiss sauce.

1036
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: So I think the first thing is not a dip

1037
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,280
in any way.

1038
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: It's more of as.

1039
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 5: Okay, ie, I'm still two. I think I'm still two

1040
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,599
out of three.

1041
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,639
Speaker 2: I think the other two things are dips that I

1042
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,199
also think you don't have to use chips. We don't

1043
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:02,800
have to call the sashimi chips.

1044
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:05,679
Speaker 3: I use like ground beef one time.

1045
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I have read, the innovation is great and welcome,

1046
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:12,320
and we have a very international flare.

1047
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,079
Speaker 5: So this will be my first taste of this too.

1048
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,639
I haven't I haven't been non. I put it in

1049
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,039
the fridge this time because last time, if you tune

1050
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:21,960
into the show, I had a salmon, I had a

1051
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,039
salmon damp. It was out here sweating for a whole episode.

1052
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:28,119
It's hot of ship in my apartment. So this time

1053
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:29,280
I put it in the fridge, which is why I

1054
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,639
had to leave momentarily. But I'll go with some We

1055
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,440
got some salmon going on here in this spicy cocktail sauce.

1056
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: Great. This is an expensive thing to possibly bring to

1057
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,199
a barbecue too.

1058
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:42,639
Speaker 2: How many pounds of sashimi are you bringing for the

1059
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:43,760
clips into a barbecue.

1060
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 5: It's not the entre. It's just you know, you're just

1061
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,320
taking little nibbles, Okay, are you the barbecue? I love

1062
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
this cocktail sauce. It is the best cocktail sauce.

1063
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,679
Speaker 1: I've ever had you put it in the YouTube description,

1064
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,119
so maybe they'll see it and send.

1065
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 5: Us Yes, it is so good. It's like, uh, it's

1066
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:04,360
kind of got like a goch jang thing going on

1067
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,159
here makes sense. Go to chang is like the first ingredient.

1068
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:13,559
It's very good. It's very very good. To the barbecue

1069
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,559
for sure. And let me let me see what's going

1070
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,119
on with this sabi. I'm not familiar with this.

1071
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: Brand is barbeque. I'm getting to it quick. I don't

1072
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:22,280
want in the sun.

1073
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,519
Speaker 1: Adams life.

1074
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:27,199
Speaker 5: While you're not bringing pounds, it's just everyone that just

1075
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:28,440
takes a couple of nibbles.

1076
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adams standing at the picnic table, tapping it going.

1077
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:32,840
I think this is shimi could go here.

1078
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 5: This is a wonderful.

1079
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 4: If it's a really good shashimi, you shouldn't need a dip, right.

1080
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 5: This is a real This is like a real wassabi

1081
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,840
because sometimes it's labeled with Sabbie and it's just horse

1082
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:48,079
radish's dyed green. This is the this is the real deal.

1083
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:53,480
I'm giving this a town out of town. This is slapping.

1084
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic, Adam, your dip well.

1085
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,639
Speaker 3: On the other end of spectrum.

1086
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 6: Yeah's mild cheddar cheese dip with tara sweet potato with

1087
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,320
sea salt, chip sport.

1088
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 4: I've gone with it before. Yeah, something a little bit healthier.

1089
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,320
I like myself some sweet potato fries and chips. And

1090
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:25,360
I gotta say this, Friedo's mild cheddar really good, really good.

1091
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,599
Doesn't have to kick to it, but sometimes it's a

1092
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:28,519
nice little changeup.

1093
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, and.

1094
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: With confidence, I.

1095
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: Put it right next to the yashimi and go your decision.

1096
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: Man, they flip a coin you're giving them. I was

1097
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,960
thinking sugar. Okay, So we're two for two on dips.

1098
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,239
We have also two dips that are very different ends

1099
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,960
of the spectrum. Would both be at home at the barbecue.

1100
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,079
Both of these would be hits. I think it's a barbecue.

1101
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,480
I went with a submission from Raymond Nasar. He said

1102
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,320
on YouTube, thanks for taking my suggestion to submit dip recipes.

1103
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,599
I'm from Puerto Rico and grew up eating making mayo ketchup,

1104
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:07,079
so I kind of knew what I was getting into.

1105
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
It sounds weirder than a taste, which is actually amazing.

1106
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Ingredients one to three clothes garlic, depending on your taste.

1107
00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:18,199
I did two clothes garlic, three tablespoons of ketchup, one

1108
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,760
lime to juice it, and then.

1109
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,679
Speaker 1: Half a cup of mayo.

1110
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,599
Speaker 2: If you include the garlic, minster the garlic up as

1111
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,320
fine as you can mix all the ingredients in a

1112
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,119
bowl until it reaches a consistent pink color and even

1113
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:30,599
taste of garlic and live if you included them, enjoy

1114
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:32,079
them with anything that can be dipped.

1115
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,079
Speaker 1: I ate this entire episode. You probably saw me. It was,

1116
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,079
uh this sound go chiech yournees. This is a phenomenal dip.

1117
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,440
This is so good.

1118
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 5: In the US, we call it fancy sauce. Yeah, it

1119
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,079
doesn't It doesn't include the lime in the garlic. So

1120
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:50,480
I like this elevation hadn't crossed my mind. We are

1121
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,000
raising new levels of innovation on dip on this show.

1122
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an international flavor, Like I I want

1123
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,239
to like mustard fry a burger in This is how

1124
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,880
good it tastes. So zank you, Raymond. This was a

1125
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,440
phenomenal dip and I would bring it to the barbecue.

1126
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,840
And this barbecue, my add is gonna have this is

1127
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,719
phenomenal pressure on the maids at this barbecue because the tashimi,

1128
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,320
the cheese sauce and the Mayo ketchup are carrying the

1129
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,079
pre main course. So I think we went three for

1130
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:24,039
three with dips.

1131
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. Wilson was questionable initially if it worked out.

1132
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Will took us on a journey with is. He

1133
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:34,360
was like, it might not be a dip, it might be.

1134
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: Keep something else.

1135
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,519
Speaker 5: It just depends on what.

1136
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:39,079
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1137
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 5: Where you land on. Is a sauce. A dip is

1138
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:43,559
a sauce of sauce, don't I don't know.

1139
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,599
Speaker 1: Do we have time for this?

1140
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:47,559
Speaker 2: One more thing, one blast dip thing, and then we'll

1141
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,679
get out of here. I almost didn't make a dip.

1142
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,840
I made a curry this.

1143
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,679
Speaker 1: Week that is phenomenal, but I didn't know if I

1144
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:56,320
could submit that as a dip.

1145
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,079
Speaker 2: I know you dip things in curry, but I don't

1146
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,039
know if it counts as a dip with respect to

1147
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:05,000
the substantialness of curry as a dish?

1148
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 5: Can it be eaten without a spoon? Like could you

1149
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,519
eat the entirety of it with something that you did?

1150
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,119
Speaker 3: Oh?

1151
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, then I think it counts.

1152
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,599
Speaker 1: For me that counts Okay? Wait, so Adam, where you

1153
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,000
out on that? See?

1154
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: I don't know I was consistency. If it's too watery,

1155
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,679
is that a dip? But then there's some sauces that

1156
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,840
are I think dips that are pretty watery.

1157
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,639
Speaker 3: So I don't know. This is tough ruling we.

1158
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:30,199
Speaker 1: Did land on.

1159
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 7: I'm not sure hot sauce. I think hot sauce is

1160
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,519
a stretch. Hot sauces thought of dip. I was lambasted

1161
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:38,199
for that on this pod. What are my worst takes?

1162
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:44,000
I think my only bad take? Oh that about rafts.

1163
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:45,000
Everything up.

1164
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: We will be back with you all next week to

1165
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,239
talk some draft cross bracks, because there's a bunch we

1166
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,760
could talk about. Since Slippers pick at thirty might have

1167
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,280
a special guest. Maybe'll bring Justin rousseaul on to debate

1168
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,760
the kaminga thing will really sow some some seeds of discourse. Well,

1169
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,079
now that it's the off season, so people cannot only

1170
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,719
get fantastic dip recipes and ideas, but send us fantastic

1171
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,559
disc recipes and ideas.

1172
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: Where could they do that? Where could they voice their

1173
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:12,079
disdain or like of the show.

1174
00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mentioned this on Twitter, but like, yeah,

1175
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,960
I mean, I'm losing my shirt on the cost of

1176
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:21,039
these dips doing on off season so please listen to

1177
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,039
this show. Watch this show. Tell you friends to listen

1178
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:25,440
to the show. Watch the show. You can listen to

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it wherever you get your podcasts. If you have to

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listen over on Apple podcast or Spotify, go ahead leave

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a little written review. You can comment on Spotify. We'd

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love to know what you think. But the best way

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to watch this show is probably over on YouTube dot

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com at Clippers podcast. But hey, thank you for rocking

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with us during the off season. However you listen, however

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you watch, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We very much do.

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Speaker 2: An adam ousland one and this tough week of ex

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Clippers stuff one positive thing for this Clippers fans weekends.

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Speaker 4: Everybody likes to say the Clippers can draft, but they

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drafted SGA.

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Speaker 3: I mean ball know or it's pretty clear, pretty clear

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he went like eleventh right. How many teams passed on

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him and.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I think Jerome Robinson went right after him.

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Speaker 4: How many guys like look at that first round. How

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many guys are still in the league. It happens, It

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does happen.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it did happen.

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Speaker 4: Who will plead with him? Was like never in my

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wildest dreams when I have a Bachelor, the MVP. I

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think he said that today on his show.

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Speaker 1: No one thought he was No one thought, wow, the

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MVP fell to that low. But that is positive and

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we do appreciate.

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Speaker 3: That at him. Is it?

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Speaker 1: We'll take it all right?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for hanging out. Here's to a good weekend,

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enjoy some dips and yeah, as always, let's go clips.

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Speaker 3: Yes,