WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.839 Just Jackson Brown Kch's little Jackson Brown. 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:06.360 He did. Indeed, at least I knew it. 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.759 Most of Chris's selections go by me. Christopher Camaradie on 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.800 a Friday. This was it was on a soundtrack and 5 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:14.960 it's escaping Me helped me? 6 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:16.879 Which soundtrack times? 7 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:22.320 Yes, fast times, somebody's baby Jackson Brown? Well played two K. 8 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.079 We're doing a little eighties on a Friday. Any inspiration 9 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:27.879 or you just like the song slash the movie, Well. 10 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:31.559 It's eighties Day on the drive. And I would highly 11 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.159 recommend the yacht rock documentary that is now. 12 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.359 Okay, yes, yes, I am. 13 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.320 A yacht rocker, which might be a little bit of 14 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:45.799 a surprise to you, but very chill, entertaining background music. 15 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:50.159 I would say it's a couple steps ahead of elevator music, 16 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.600 but it's not music that you necessarily have to be 17 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:59.119 emotionally involved with. That being said, it's tremendous, it's very good. 18 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.119 I would recommend it to anybody who likes music. 19 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.560 Okay, I'll watch it because it's on HBO Max. I've 20 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:06.560 seen it a couple of times. Is that did Bill 21 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:07.319 Simmons do that? 22 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:07.840 Did I see it? 23 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:08.239 Was? Correct? 24 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:09.560 Correct? 25 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:13.040 Yep? Yeah, and they got they got lots of big players, man. 26 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:16.280 And you know, this yacht rock thing just kind of 27 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.159 percolated within the last I would say, like five to 28 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:23.400 six years. It's always kind of been like the Christopher Cross, 29 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:29.439 Jackson Brown, Doobie Brothers, Michael McDonald, like, it's been around, 30 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:34.840 but it didn't really necessarily have a name to fall under. 31 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.159 And it's cool, man, It's enjoyable. I think, like for 32 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:43.079 if you're like into the cultural zeitgeist of things, it's 33 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:44.359 a very enjoyable watch. 34 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.680 I'll have to check it out definitely. Have you seen 35 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:51.480 The Agency, the new show on Paramount Showtime. I have 36 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.799 not highly recommended, because I need to recommend something to 37 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.439 you that you haven't seen for all of the the 38 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.359 stuff that you've recommended to me. So I'll definitely definitely 39 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.280 check out y'ah Rock. All right, c K, I have 40 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.799 a random question right off the top because I want. 41 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:06.359 You just to guess hit me. 42 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:11.319 There is a dating service called wallet hob and they 43 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.719 have for the past year gone through the data to 44 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.560 rank cities for singles one through one hundred and sixty 45 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:20.159 in America. 46 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.319 Where do you think Salt Lake ranks? 47 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.560 Ooh, I'm gonna I think you're trying to trick me. 48 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.639 I'm going to say Salt Lake's in the top fifteen. 49 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.280 Number thirty five, right behind Las Crusis, New Mexico and 50 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.240 a head of Missoula, Montana. 51 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.879 I've never been to Las Crusis. I've heard great things 52 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:44.960 love Missoula, but I mean, thirty five is not that bad? 53 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:45.639 Is it? 54 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.240 Or are we? Are we operating under the assumption and 55 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:52.039 the stereotype that everybody here is already in a relationship 56 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.039 slash married? Is that why we're so low in theory? 57 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.039 I guess I don't really know what the data is. 58 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.080 I should probably look into that, but it just it 59 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.719 popped up on on social media, so I'm sending it 60 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.159 to all my single friends to see what they have 61 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.759 to say. Anyway, nobody cares moving on since you and 62 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.479 I last spoke, I believe Yes, that's right, Coach Wit 63 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.479 coming back, you're twenty one for Kyle Whittingham, as I 64 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.039 tend to do. Christopher, I'll give you the credit for 65 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.080 calling this a while back. I don't know how much 66 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.960 of your reasoning you want to bring on air, but 67 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.360 when I off air, flow to the possibility of this 68 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.439 being Kyle's last season. You summarily dismissed it. 69 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:32.039 Why is that. 70 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.479 That's a good question, because even now, in the wake 71 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.960 of all the change that the program has undergone in 72 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.840 like the last ten days, I'm honestly shocked that Kyle 73 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:44.680 is coming back to do it again this way. This 74 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.919 is just conjecture on my part, So nobody should take 75 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.360 this as any sort of reporting. I just think Eric 76 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.400 Kyle is a creature of habit and his favorite thing 77 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.680 to do is to coach football, and he makes a 78 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.360 lot of money doing it. He is the chairman and 79 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.360 CEO of Utah Football. You could make an argument of 80 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.919 Utah Athletics. You know, he is the highest paid public 81 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:11.000 employee in the state of Utah. He holds a tremendous 82 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:16.160 amount of power and sway at the university. And you know, 83 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:19.120 even though he said it that last presser before the 84 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.720 UCF game, that you can't really ever time perfectly, you know, 85 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:28.399 the exit. I just can't. I just don't think Kyle 86 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.160 could stomach going out on the longest losing streak that 87 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.920 the program had since the year I was born, you know, 88 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.120 thirty eight years ago. I just don't. I just don't 89 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:43.240 think that that's part of his DNA. So that being said, 90 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.959 I am stunned, to be honest with you, that he 91 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:51.319 is taking part in this massive undertaking that has to 92 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.079 see his program basically start from scratch on one side 93 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.839 of the ball and deal with a bunch of yes 94 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.680 nos and maybe's in the transfer portal. What I mean, 95 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:03.800 I think I think Kyle does his best work and 96 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.800 I think he enjoys it the most when he gets 97 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.360 to prove people wrong. And I think going into next year, 98 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:11.959 if we're projecting, I think a lot of people will 99 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.680 be very skeptical of Utah's you know, stance in the 100 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.399 Big twelve. I guarantee you they won't be a top 101 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.680 four pick next year. And you know, I think Kyle 102 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:23.000 likes that, so we'll see. 103 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:24.800 Shout out John Paul. 104 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.759 There's a little Kendall Roy Logan Roy thing going on here. 105 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.920 Do you think there's any anxiety at all from Morgan 106 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.519 to start his tenure. I mean he's still very young. 107 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.160 People forget that Morgan's very young. I think he's forty three, 108 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.319 forty four thereabouts, So it's not like, you know, he's 109 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.319 got decades left if he wants it. 110 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:49.120 But do you think there's any like, Hey, it's my turn, dad. 111 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:54.600 The eldest boy. I don't think so, just because I 112 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:58.120 don't think we will see Kyle coach into his seventies. 113 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.519 You know, I didn't think we would see Kyle to 114 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.240 coach until he's when he's sixty five. He proved me wrong. 115 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.639 So but I think the fact that Morgan and Kyle 116 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:13.399 were in lockstep together on the offensive coordinator position hiring, 117 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.759 I would assume that Morgan has a lot of say 118 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.480 in what style of offense they want to deploy, and 119 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.120 that was the reason why they went after the types 120 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:27.319 of targets that they did. And I do think Kyle 121 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.959 and Morgan are giving Jason Beck cart Blancho to speak, 122 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.120 to come in and make the offense his own as 123 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.079 they should. Like I think, for too long at Utah 124 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.519 was always kind of one foot in, one foot out, 125 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.839 new guy with old guys. Now like it's been so 126 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.879 bad the last couple of years that clearly change needed 127 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.639 to happen, and we're going to see, you know, starting 128 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:52.839 next fall, what Jason Beck has up his sleep. 129 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:55.879 And since you and I last spoke, that is the 130 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.680 higher So let's hone in on it. You know, according 131 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:03.279 reports the third option. I suppose as far as people 132 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:05.959 reporting on the process, and they do land on Jason 133 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.439 and he brings his quarterback with him, Devin Danpierre, who, 134 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:13.800 according to ESPN's rankings with a seventh ranked transfer quarterback 135 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.879 available in the portals. So that's not nothing. Wonder what 136 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.959 that nil number looks like. But what do you make 137 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.560 of the start of what will be a completely revanced 138 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:22.879 offensive side of the football. 139 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.959 Yeah, I haven't dove into any tape yet. I'll be 140 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:28.920 sure to do that in the coming months to try 141 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:33.680 to curely break down the offensive schemes and the dynamic 142 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:37.279 approach of the University of New Mexico Lobos last year 143 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:41.519 under Jason Beck. Rest assured you know, listeners of the drive, 144 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.240 and rest assured Spence and Porter, we'll get there. I promise. 145 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:48.639 I know you you know, looking back at it, I 146 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.680 know people really wanted the likes of Ben Rbuckle and 147 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:58.759 Mac Leftwich. But these are two air raid offense offensive guys, 148 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.920 and the air raid just I don't know if it 149 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.759 coincides with the style and culture of Utah football. Like 150 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.160 air raid AIRA teams generally are trying to beat you 151 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.360 fifty to thirty five or sixty to forty two. 152 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.199 Like, I still. 153 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:22.800 Think Utah's kind of the bedrock socker of Utah football 154 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:27.040 is defense, controlling the clock, being a dynamic offensive team 155 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.720 on the ground. And you know, I think Jason Beck, 156 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.320 by all accounts, is more of a natural fit if 157 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.519 we want to believe that the air raid isn't more 158 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:38.919 of a natural fit to coincide with Morgan Scully and 159 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.639 Kyle Whittingham's defense. So, you know, everybody that's much smarter 160 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.240 than me, especially locally, guys that have played college football 161 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.759 and in the NFL, say that this is the right higher. 162 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.960 I listened to Mike Sanford Junior on your show earlier 163 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.039 this week. Was really good by the way. I thought 164 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.799 he had, you know, a lot of interesting, you know, 165 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:01.320 insightful things to say about Jason and his offence. So 166 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.440 getting Devin Dampier here obviously was I don't want to 167 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.320 say part of a package deal, but it was kind 168 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:14.639 of a no brainer, especially considering while we haven't heard 169 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:18.919 where Cam Rising stands, I think most people believe that 170 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.519 he won't be back at Utah. So you're talking about 171 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:25.399 an entirely new quarterback room starting from scratch and it 172 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.000 would behoove Jason Beck to get the guy that he 173 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.679 you know, got to orchestrate a very fun, tantalizing offense 174 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:38.320 last year. That being said, I know Utah fans are 175 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:43.039 very excited about the idea and the possibility of a 176 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.919 true dual threat quarterback. You know, I know he accumulated 177 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:50.159 like thirty somethings total touchdowns last year, rushed for almost twenty, 178 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.639 he did throw. You know, he was twelve for twelve 179 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.360 twelve twelve interceptions, twelve touchdowns passing last year. It's not great, 180 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.440 like I think Isaac Wilson had almost similar numbers. So 181 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.200 I think people should pump the brakes in terms of 182 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.440 let's see who Utah can put around him, Let's see 183 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:14.279 what type of running back room is around him, and 184 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.679 who's he tote the ball to Spance Like, I know, 185 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.399 we've beaten this horse dead over and over and over 186 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.399 again for years, but I think the wide receiver room 187 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.720 is almost as empty as the quarterback room. So I 188 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.840 know that there is you know, anticipation and excitement for 189 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.759 potentially a lot of upside with this new offense and 190 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:42.120 with Devin Dampier. But you're talking about a mobile quarterback. 191 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.879 And listen what has Utah gone through the last couple 192 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.720 of years. They're going to get Devin Dampier to come 193 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.120 in and start games. I think you can make an 194 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.919 argument that you're only as good as your backup quarterback 195 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.600 in college football. We're about to find that out with 196 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.480 Georgia in the playoffs. With Carson back out, like, the 197 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:01.000 deal is not done. Jason Beck and his staff have 198 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.759 to go out and figure out who is going to 199 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:06.240 be able to back up Devon damp here. Because if 200 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.559 you have a true dual that threat quarterback, the odds 201 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.879 of a dual that quarterback like Devon lasting an entire 202 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.200 year without getting banged up, it's very very minimal. 203 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.720 If your surname is Gunner Stockton, don't you have to 204 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.159 be an awesome quarterback or an awesome point guard. I 205 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.919 mean you have two paths in life. If that's your name, Yes. 206 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.679 Well I think I got it. Does it end on 207 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.840 Ar or Er? Is it Gunnar or is it Gunner? Like? 208 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.000 I think that there's a distinction there that we have 209 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:34.720 to figure out. 210 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:37.919 The announcers are saying Gunner Stockton. 211 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.679 Yeah, it's Er, so it's yeah. Gunnar would be more 212 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.120 of like a Nordic. 213 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:45.120 Approach. 214 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:49.120 Gunner is, you know, seems way more in line with 215 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.519 a young man born to be a quarterback in the 216 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.120 town of Tiger, Georgia. So h yeah, it's a great 217 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.440 football name. It's an sec name, and the dogs are 218 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.360 going to see how far mister Gunner can take me. 219 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.039 What what do you said in your son up? If 220 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:06.960 you name him Leo and he lives in Salt Lake? 221 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:08.679 What what? What are the career paths there? 222 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:09.639 Uh? 223 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:14.879 Future left back at r s L. I mean, he's 224 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.840 he's a lefty. He likes to he likes to stand 225 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.120 in people's way when you're trying to get around him. 226 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.720 He's always going to be goal side. So uh, I 227 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.080 mean obviously the obvious goal is to get him into 228 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:29.279 the academy and and get him to the first team eventually. 229 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.679 Let's got let's get that done now. Just so you know, 230 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.480 I learned that like last week MLS open like half 231 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:39.279 trade day. Uh yeah, that's that's Do you not know 232 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.200 about the re entry draft, Spence? I learned about I 233 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.679 know about the re entry but the half trade day 234 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:49.120 thing is the perfect MLS It's so dumb, oh, I. 235 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:53.120 Mean, it's among among the dumb things that MLS does 236 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.000 its off season is among the dumbest. 237 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.879 It's a dumb league, man, I'm. 238 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.039 Telling you, like, if the league could find a way 239 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.960 to even carve out a semblance of room for off 240 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:10.039 season intrigue and drama. I know the world soccer market 241 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.559 is nothing like our domestic leagues here, but the reason 242 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.720 why there are domestic leagues here take off is because, 243 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.360 like I said on the show last week when I 244 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.080 was in the studio, like people are more interested in 245 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.759 the off season more often than not than they are 246 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.120 in the season itself. Because people are so attached to 247 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.360 their smartphones and their laptops and their social media. They're 248 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:33.080 waiting for the next tweet, They're waiting for the you know, 249 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.919 there's no longer WOJE bombs, but they're waiting for something 250 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.279 from Adam Schefter or Jeff Passon or like Diana Russini. 251 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.879 They just want something new to kind of satiate their 252 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.159 appetite for what could be. And you can you can 253 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:49.120 tie that to the need for MLS. But I think 254 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:52.279 that's a huge reason why, you know, tangentially, I think 255 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.559 that's a huge reason why college football is taking out 256 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.000 at the level as it is now because with the portal, 257 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.039 basically any minute of any day, your team could either 258 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.720 lose its best player or gain it. It's potentially it's 259 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:04.279 best player. 260 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.919 Well, and also MLS they're liars. I don't know if 261 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.480 you heard Trey earlier, but you and I were debating 262 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:13.039 how many people would watch MLS Cup and we settled 263 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.279 on five hundred thousand. The linear number was four hundred 264 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.759 and thirty thousand. And when I asked Trey about the number, 265 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.759 you said, well, two and a half million watched on 266 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:22.720 Apple and I said, can I have the reference? He 267 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.559 said no, so we might as well say a billion 268 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.440 people watched MLS Cup on Apple TV. They're liars, a lot. 269 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:35.519 Of them brutal. I mean, I know the teams weren't 270 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:40.559 that intriguing from a you know, national international point of view. 271 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.320 Congrats to the Galaxy, but man, can you imagine like 272 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.080 what those numbers would have been if it was like 273 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.200 Miami and LAFC or Miami in Seattle even, Like, I 274 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:57.120 just it's hard, man, Like the more that this league grows, 275 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.360 the more it kind of diff feats its own purpose 276 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:03.600 like so to speak. And I know that doesn't make 277 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:06.840 a lot of sense, but like while you're growing, you're 278 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.039 also kind of dwindling your potential reach. And I know 279 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:14.679 the Apple TV deal has been somewhat successful, but again, like, 280 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.960 you're not going to get casual fans to not only 281 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.159 sign up for Apple tv Plus but then pay extra 282 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:23.879 for mls. You're just not going. 283 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.279 To Then you can just lie and say two and 284 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:29.240 a half million people watched with no reference point. It's 285 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.320 just ridiculous. Anyway, away from that, I wanted to get so. 286 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.960 We had our guy, Gordon Montson Live and studio this 287 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.639 week and Gordon said a sentence that people have said, 288 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.559 including myself, and the sentence was, Kyle Whittingham has earned 289 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.480 the right to tell us when he's done. 290 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:46.720 Has he? 291 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:53.639 I think so? And it's hard not to be overreacting 292 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:57.080 to what you see on social media because that is 293 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:02.360 obviously not real life. But it is fascinating to see 294 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.480 a fan base get so up in arms regarding the 295 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:10.080 state of a program that has had three down years 296 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.519 and twenty under Kyle and like, you can make the 297 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:18.960 argument that while twenty twenty four was flummixing for a 298 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.080 number of reasons, it was it was that because of 299 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.360 the tremendous amount of injuries. They once again had at 300 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.679 at their most important position in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen 301 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.600 when they went five to seven, Like they were like 302 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.399 not a talented team. They had good defensive players, but 303 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:37.360 they were nowhere near the cream of the crop of 304 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:39.919 the Pac twelve. They eventually got there, you know, five 305 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.759 or six years later. But it is wild to see 306 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:48.399 people say, like it's Kyle's time to go, it's Morgan's time. 307 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.600 Like I'm just of the opinion that, like, until you 308 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.600 have data that it's not working for several seasons in 309 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.159 a row, it just doesn't make sense to want to know, 310 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.000 move away from it. Like if we're if we're dividing 311 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.519 seventeen by twenty spence, what is that? Come on, you're 312 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.480 the math major. That's like ninety three percent success rate, 313 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:13.640 meaning you're getting to a bowl at minimum ninety three 314 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.319 percent of the time Kyle Whittingham has been your head coach? 315 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:20.279 Are you kidding me? Like, but again, I think this 316 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:24.400 is also a byproduct and Kyle's almost a victim of 317 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.400 his own success that he's cultivated here. Is that the 318 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.799 expectations here are so high that when they're not met, 319 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:34.000 when you're not smelling Roses. When you're not getting a 320 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.400 first round playoff game or even a bye, people think 321 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.160 that change needs to happen, and I'm just not of 322 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.880 that opinion yet. And like I said, if we eventually 323 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.000 get data, like if Utah cannot figure itself out in 324 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.200 twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six, we can have 325 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:53.359 a conversation. But until then, I think it's low hanging 326 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.680 fruit to say that Utah needs to make a coaching 327 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.599 change because they've had one bad year. We talk about 328 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:01.680 last year, spencely what eight and four with a bunch 329 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.839 of dudes that like nobody's really heard it from anymore, 330 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.599 Like that's insane. And last year was the best year 331 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:12.079 that the Pac twelve ever had. So I understand that 332 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.920 people were frustrated about the injuries. I get it, but 333 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.200 like everybody needs to put the Twitter down, go listen 334 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.000 to some Kenny G, you know, Christmas music and take 335 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:22.400 it easy. 336 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:23.759 Not Kenny G. 337 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:25.759 I mean, yes, yes, Kenny G. 338 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.160 No, not Kenny G. Christmas music. There's so many good 339 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.319 Christmas albums out there. You can't land on Kenny G. 340 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.319 Do you background music? Background music? Spence background music. 341 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.200 The only other person I know that likes Kenny g 342 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.759 is my father. You listen to Kenny G. 343 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:45.720 Bro Wow. 344 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:48.359 If I have something in common with Big Dave, then 345 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.839 that makes me feel very accomplished. 346 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:50.400 That's fair. 347 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.680 But don't make me run down the catalog of his 348 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:54.200 other Christmas legs because. 349 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.200 It's depressing riding in the car with the man. 350 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.319 But moving on, Look, let me remind you of a 351 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.119 quote that you may have forgotten Christopher about coach with 352 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.759 you either die a hero. 353 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.559 Or or you live long enough to see yourself to 354 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:09.200 come to villain. 355 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:11.319 And to your point, I don't know how many of 356 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.200 these are young Utah fans, millennial Utah fans go vape 357 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.559 and stream on Twitch or whatever you do, but there 358 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:24.880 are a lot of people that I've been surprised. And 359 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.079 every time I say this, I have to remind folks. 360 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.160 So I'll say into this microphone, my opinion is that 361 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.240 Kyle has earned the right to tell us when he's done. 362 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.359 And I'm old enough to remember what Utah football was 363 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.079 like before Coach Mac and before Urban and before Kyle, 364 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.640 And to your point, two years ago was a phenomenal 365 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:43.279 coaching job. 366 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.000 And the year before that they were in the freaking 367 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:45.559 Rose Bowl. 368 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:51.480 But I wonder when it comes to the power brokers, 369 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.200 the people that are writing checks for Utah football, and 370 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:58.079 there is an arms race going on in collegiate athletics 371 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:00.559 locally and nationally, and there is a feel that community 372 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.680 that the arms race right now is being one by 373 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.119 the school about forty miles down south that appears to 374 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.759 have some very powerful basketball people writing checks for very excellent, 375 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:14.960 exciting young basketball prodigies. And the football team had a 376 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.799 better year than the you know, the team up here 377 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.519 at the University of Utah. So I wonder if you're 378 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.079 Taylor Randall and Mark Carlin and you have to listen 379 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.359 to the voices of the people that are writing checks, 380 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.240 are they on board with Kyle continuing or are they 381 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:31.759 kind of pining for a bit of a change. 382 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:33.000 And I honestly don't know the answer. 383 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.119 I mean, let's I mean, this would be a great 384 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.039 segment for reality check. I mean, I'm just saying, like 385 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.160 we could go on for a couple hours about this 386 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.279 and ran really dug into it, but we have six 387 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:53.920 minutes BYU has a billionaire backer who is bankrolling its 388 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.319 basketball team, and in this area, you can and I 389 00:20:57.440 --> 00:20:59.720 know that you know Cougar fans are doing backflips that 390 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.119 they got Ajdabansa, but the reality is Aj will be 391 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.880 there one year and if you know, they don't win 392 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.200 the national title, it's cool that he was their year, 393 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:10.920 but then he's gonna move on and probably be the 394 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.000 number one overall pick in that next year's draft. Football, however, 395 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:19.880 is always going to be the ultimate driver of interests, 396 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.920 the health of the athletic department, whatever school you're at, 397 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.200 for the most part. And I just don't know, like, 398 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.440 if we're talking about big time Utah donors, are the 399 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:37.480 Garths or the Eckles's or whomever, or the Huntsman's are 400 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:40.880 they saying, like, yes, we need to get this defensive 401 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:44.279