Speaker 1: Just Jackson Brown Kch's little Jackson Brown.
Speaker 2: He did. Indeed, at least I knew it.
Speaker 1: Most of Chris's selections go by me. Christopher Camaradie on
Speaker 1: a Friday. This was it was on a soundtrack and
Speaker 1: it's escaping Me helped me?
Speaker 2: Which soundtrack times?
Speaker 1: Yes, fast times, somebody's baby Jackson Brown? Well played two K.
Speaker 1: We're doing a little eighties on a Friday. Any inspiration
Speaker 1: or you just like the song slash the movie, Well.
Speaker 3: It's eighties Day on the drive. And I would highly
Speaker 3: recommend the yacht rock documentary that is now.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, I am.
Speaker 3: A yacht rocker, which might be a little bit of
Speaker 3: a surprise to you, but very chill, entertaining background music.
Speaker 3: I would say it's a couple steps ahead of elevator music,
Speaker 3: but it's not music that you necessarily have to be
Speaker 3: emotionally involved with. That being said, it's tremendous, it's very good.
Speaker 3: I would recommend it to anybody who likes music.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll watch it because it's on HBO Max. I've
Speaker 1: seen it a couple of times. Is that did Bill
Speaker 1: Simmons do that?
Speaker 2: Did I see it?
Speaker 3: Was? Correct?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: Yep? Yeah, and they got they got lots of big players, man.
Speaker 3: And you know, this yacht rock thing just kind of
Speaker 3: percolated within the last I would say, like five to
Speaker 3: six years. It's always kind of been like the Christopher Cross,
Speaker 3: Jackson Brown, Doobie Brothers, Michael McDonald, like, it's been around,
Speaker 3: but it didn't really necessarily have a name to fall under.
Speaker 3: And it's cool, man, It's enjoyable. I think, like for
Speaker 3: if you're like into the cultural zeitgeist of things, it's
Speaker 3: a very enjoyable watch.
Speaker 1: I'll have to check it out definitely. Have you seen
Speaker 1: The Agency, the new show on Paramount Showtime. I have
Speaker 1: not highly recommended, because I need to recommend something to
Speaker 1: you that you haven't seen for all of the the
Speaker 1: stuff that you've recommended to me. So I'll definitely definitely
Speaker 1: check out y'ah Rock. All right, c K, I have
Speaker 1: a random question right off the top because I want.
Speaker 2: You just to guess hit me.
Speaker 1: There is a dating service called wallet hob and they
Speaker 1: have for the past year gone through the data to
Speaker 1: rank cities for singles one through one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: in America.
Speaker 2: Where do you think Salt Lake ranks?
Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm gonna I think you're trying to trick me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say Salt Lake's in the top fifteen.
Speaker 1: Number thirty five, right behind Las Crusis, New Mexico and
Speaker 1: a head of Missoula, Montana.
Speaker 3: I've never been to Las Crusis. I've heard great things
Speaker 3: love Missoula, but I mean, thirty five is not that bad?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Or are we? Are we operating under the assumption and
Speaker 3: the stereotype that everybody here is already in a relationship
Speaker 3: slash married? Is that why we're so low in theory?
Speaker 2: I guess I don't really know what the data is.
Speaker 1: I should probably look into that, but it just it
Speaker 1: popped up on on social media, so I'm sending it
Speaker 1: to all my single friends to see what they have
Speaker 1: to say. Anyway, nobody cares moving on since you and
Speaker 1: I last spoke, I believe Yes, that's right, Coach Wit
Speaker 1: coming back, you're twenty one for Kyle Whittingham, as I
Speaker 1: tend to do. Christopher, I'll give you the credit for
Speaker 1: calling this a while back. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: of your reasoning you want to bring on air, but
Speaker 1: when I off air, flow to the possibility of this
Speaker 1: being Kyle's last season. You summarily dismissed it.
Speaker 2: Why is that.
Speaker 3: That's a good question, because even now, in the wake
Speaker 3: of all the change that the program has undergone in
Speaker 3: like the last ten days, I'm honestly shocked that Kyle
Speaker 3: is coming back to do it again this way. This
Speaker 3: is just conjecture on my part, So nobody should take
Speaker 3: this as any sort of reporting. I just think Eric
Speaker 3: Kyle is a creature of habit and his favorite thing
Speaker 3: to do is to coach football, and he makes a
Speaker 3: lot of money doing it. He is the chairman and
Speaker 3: CEO of Utah Football. You could make an argument of
Speaker 3: Utah Athletics. You know, he is the highest paid public
Speaker 3: employee in the state of Utah. He holds a tremendous
Speaker 3: amount of power and sway at the university. And you know,
Speaker 3: even though he said it that last presser before the
Speaker 3: UCF game, that you can't really ever time perfectly, you know,
Speaker 3: the exit. I just can't. I just don't think Kyle
Speaker 3: could stomach going out on the longest losing streak that
Speaker 3: the program had since the year I was born, you know,
Speaker 3: thirty eight years ago. I just don't. I just don't
Speaker 3: think that that's part of his DNA. So that being said,
Speaker 3: I am stunned, to be honest with you, that he
Speaker 3: is taking part in this massive undertaking that has to
Speaker 3: see his program basically start from scratch on one side
Speaker 3: of the ball and deal with a bunch of yes
Speaker 3: nos and maybe's in the transfer portal. What I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I think Kyle does his best work and
Speaker 3: I think he enjoys it the most when he gets
Speaker 3: to prove people wrong. And I think going into next year,
Speaker 3: if we're projecting, I think a lot of people will
Speaker 3: be very skeptical of Utah's you know, stance in the
Speaker 3: Big twelve. I guarantee you they won't be a top
Speaker 3: four pick next year. And you know, I think Kyle
Speaker 3: likes that, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: Shout out John Paul.
Speaker 1: There's a little Kendall Roy Logan Roy thing going on here.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any anxiety at all from Morgan
Speaker 1: to start his tenure. I mean he's still very young.
Speaker 1: People forget that Morgan's very young. I think he's forty three,
Speaker 1: forty four thereabouts, So it's not like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got decades left if he wants it.
Speaker 2: But do you think there's any like, Hey, it's my turn, dad.
Speaker 3: The eldest boy. I don't think so, just because I
Speaker 3: don't think we will see Kyle coach into his seventies.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't think we would see Kyle to
Speaker 3: coach until he's when he's sixty five. He proved me wrong.
Speaker 3: So but I think the fact that Morgan and Kyle
Speaker 3: were in lockstep together on the offensive coordinator position hiring,
Speaker 3: I would assume that Morgan has a lot of say
Speaker 3: in what style of offense they want to deploy, and
Speaker 3: that was the reason why they went after the types
Speaker 3: of targets that they did. And I do think Kyle
Speaker 3: and Morgan are giving Jason Beck cart Blancho to speak,
Speaker 3: to come in and make the offense his own as
Speaker 3: they should. Like I think, for too long at Utah
Speaker 3: was always kind of one foot in, one foot out,
Speaker 3: new guy with old guys. Now like it's been so
Speaker 3: bad the last couple of years that clearly change needed
Speaker 3: to happen, and we're going to see, you know, starting
Speaker 3: next fall, what Jason Beck has up his sleep.
Speaker 1: And since you and I last spoke, that is the
Speaker 1: higher So let's hone in on it. You know, according
Speaker 1: reports the third option. I suppose as far as people
Speaker 1: reporting on the process, and they do land on Jason
Speaker 1: and he brings his quarterback with him, Devin Danpierre, who,
Speaker 1: according to ESPN's rankings with a seventh ranked transfer quarterback
Speaker 1: available in the portals. So that's not nothing. Wonder what
Speaker 1: that nil number looks like. But what do you make
Speaker 1: of the start of what will be a completely revanced
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't dove into any tape yet. I'll be
Speaker 3: sure to do that in the coming months to try
Speaker 3: to curely break down the offensive schemes and the dynamic
Speaker 3: approach of the University of New Mexico Lobos last year
Speaker 3: under Jason Beck. Rest assured you know, listeners of the drive,
Speaker 3: and rest assured Spence and Porter, we'll get there. I promise.
Speaker 3: I know you you know, looking back at it, I
Speaker 3: know people really wanted the likes of Ben Rbuckle and
Speaker 3: Mac Leftwich. But these are two air raid offense offensive guys,
Speaker 3: and the air raid just I don't know if it
Speaker 3: coincides with the style and culture of Utah football. Like
Speaker 3: air raid AIRA teams generally are trying to beat you
Speaker 3: fifty to thirty five or sixty to forty two.
Speaker 2: Like, I still.
Speaker 3: Think Utah's kind of the bedrock socker of Utah football
Speaker 3: is defense, controlling the clock, being a dynamic offensive team
Speaker 3: on the ground. And you know, I think Jason Beck,
Speaker 3: by all accounts, is more of a natural fit if
Speaker 3: we want to believe that the air raid isn't more
Speaker 3: of a natural fit to coincide with Morgan Scully and
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham's defense. So, you know, everybody that's much smarter
Speaker 3: than me, especially locally, guys that have played college football
Speaker 3: and in the NFL, say that this is the right higher.
Speaker 3: I listened to Mike Sanford Junior on your show earlier
Speaker 3: this week. Was really good by the way. I thought
Speaker 3: he had, you know, a lot of interesting, you know,
Speaker 3: insightful things to say about Jason and his offence. So
Speaker 3: getting Devin Dampier here obviously was I don't want to
Speaker 3: say part of a package deal, but it was kind
Speaker 3: of a no brainer, especially considering while we haven't heard
Speaker 3: where Cam Rising stands, I think most people believe that
Speaker 3: he won't be back at Utah. So you're talking about
Speaker 3: an entirely new quarterback room starting from scratch and it
Speaker 3: would behoove Jason Beck to get the guy that he
Speaker 3: you know, got to orchestrate a very fun, tantalizing offense
Speaker 3: last year. That being said, I know Utah fans are
Speaker 3: very excited about the idea and the possibility of a
Speaker 3: true dual threat quarterback. You know, I know he accumulated
Speaker 3: like thirty somethings total touchdowns last year, rushed for almost twenty,
Speaker 3: he did throw. You know, he was twelve for twelve
Speaker 3: twelve twelve interceptions, twelve touchdowns passing last year. It's not great,
Speaker 3: like I think Isaac Wilson had almost similar numbers. So
Speaker 3: I think people should pump the brakes in terms of
Speaker 3: let's see who Utah can put around him, Let's see
Speaker 3: what type of running back room is around him, and
Speaker 3: who's he tote the ball to Spance Like, I know,
Speaker 3: we've beaten this horse dead over and over and over
Speaker 3: again for years, but I think the wide receiver room
Speaker 3: is almost as empty as the quarterback room. So I
Speaker 3: know that there is you know, anticipation and excitement for
Speaker 3: potentially a lot of upside with this new offense and
Speaker 3: with Devin Dampier. But you're talking about a mobile quarterback.
Speaker 3: And listen what has Utah gone through the last couple
Speaker 3: of years. They're going to get Devin Dampier to come
Speaker 3: in and start games. I think you can make an
Speaker 3: argument that you're only as good as your backup quarterback
Speaker 3: in college football. We're about to find that out with
Speaker 3: Georgia in the playoffs. With Carson back out, like, the
Speaker 3: deal is not done. Jason Beck and his staff have
Speaker 3: to go out and figure out who is going to
Speaker 3: be able to back up Devon damp here. Because if
Speaker 3: you have a true dual that threat quarterback, the odds
Speaker 3: of a dual that quarterback like Devon lasting an entire
Speaker 3: year without getting banged up, it's very very minimal.
Speaker 1: If your surname is Gunner Stockton, don't you have to
Speaker 1: be an awesome quarterback or an awesome point guard. I
Speaker 1: mean you have two paths in life. If that's your name, Yes.
Speaker 3: Well I think I got it. Does it end on
Speaker 3: Ar or Er? Is it Gunnar or is it Gunner? Like?
Speaker 3: I think that there's a distinction there that we have
Speaker 3: to figure out.
Speaker 2: The announcers are saying Gunner Stockton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Er, so it's yeah. Gunnar would be more
Speaker 3: of like a Nordic.
Speaker 2: Approach.
Speaker 3: Gunner is, you know, seems way more in line with
Speaker 3: a young man born to be a quarterback in the
Speaker 3: town of Tiger, Georgia. So h yeah, it's a great
Speaker 3: football name. It's an sec name, and the dogs are
Speaker 3: going to see how far mister Gunner can take me.
Speaker 1: What what do you said in your son up? If
Speaker 1: you name him Leo and he lives in Salt Lake?
Speaker 2: What what? What are the career paths there?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Future left back at r s L. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: he's a lefty. He likes to he likes to stand
Speaker 3: in people's way when you're trying to get around him.
Speaker 3: He's always going to be goal side. So uh, I
Speaker 3: mean obviously the obvious goal is to get him into
Speaker 3: the academy and and get him to the first team eventually.
Speaker 1: Let's got let's get that done now. Just so you know,
Speaker 1: I learned that like last week MLS open like half
Speaker 1: trade day. Uh yeah, that's that's Do you not know
Speaker 1: about the re entry draft, Spence? I learned about I
Speaker 1: know about the re entry but the half trade day
Speaker 1: thing is the perfect MLS It's so dumb, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's among among the dumb things that MLS does
Speaker 3: its off season is among the dumbest.
Speaker 2: It's a dumb league, man, I'm.
Speaker 3: Telling you, like, if the league could find a way
Speaker 3: to even carve out a semblance of room for off
Speaker 3: season intrigue and drama. I know the world soccer market
Speaker 3: is nothing like our domestic leagues here, but the reason
Speaker 3: why there are domestic leagues here take off is because,
Speaker 3: like I said on the show last week when I
Speaker 3: was in the studio, like people are more interested in
Speaker 3: the off season more often than not than they are
Speaker 3: in the season itself. Because people are so attached to
Speaker 3: their smartphones and their laptops and their social media. They're
Speaker 3: waiting for the next tweet, They're waiting for the you know,
Speaker 3: there's no longer WOJE bombs, but they're waiting for something
Speaker 3: from Adam Schefter or Jeff Passon or like Diana Russini.
Speaker 3: They just want something new to kind of satiate their
Speaker 3: appetite for what could be. And you can you can
Speaker 3: tie that to the need for MLS. But I think
Speaker 3: that's a huge reason why, you know, tangentially, I think
Speaker 3: that's a huge reason why college football is taking out
Speaker 3: at the level as it is now because with the portal,
Speaker 3: basically any minute of any day, your team could either
Speaker 3: lose its best player or gain it. It's potentially it's
Speaker 3: best player.
Speaker 1: Well, and also MLS they're liars. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you heard Trey earlier, but you and I were debating
Speaker 1: how many people would watch MLS Cup and we settled
Speaker 1: on five hundred thousand. The linear number was four hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty thousand. And when I asked Trey about the number,
Speaker 1: you said, well, two and a half million watched on
Speaker 1: Apple and I said, can I have the reference? He
Speaker 1: said no, so we might as well say a billion
Speaker 1: people watched MLS Cup on Apple TV. They're liars, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of them brutal. I mean, I know the teams weren't
Speaker 3: that intriguing from a you know, national international point of view.
Speaker 3: Congrats to the Galaxy, but man, can you imagine like
Speaker 3: what those numbers would have been if it was like
Speaker 3: Miami and LAFC or Miami in Seattle even, Like, I
Speaker 3: just it's hard, man, Like the more that this league grows,
Speaker 3: the more it kind of diff feats its own purpose
Speaker 3: like so to speak. And I know that doesn't make
Speaker 3: a lot of sense, but like while you're growing, you're
Speaker 3: also kind of dwindling your potential reach. And I know
Speaker 3: the Apple TV deal has been somewhat successful, but again, like,
Speaker 3: you're not going to get casual fans to not only
Speaker 3: sign up for Apple tv Plus but then pay extra
Speaker 3: for mls. You're just not going.
Speaker 1: To Then you can just lie and say two and
Speaker 1: a half million people watched with no reference point. It's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. Anyway, away from that, I wanted to get so.
Speaker 1: We had our guy, Gordon Montson Live and studio this
Speaker 1: week and Gordon said a sentence that people have said,
Speaker 1: including myself, and the sentence was, Kyle Whittingham has earned
Speaker 1: the right to tell us when he's done.
Speaker 2: Has he?
Speaker 3: I think so? And it's hard not to be overreacting
Speaker 3: to what you see on social media because that is
Speaker 3: obviously not real life. But it is fascinating to see
Speaker 3: a fan base get so up in arms regarding the
Speaker 3: state of a program that has had three down years
Speaker 3: and twenty under Kyle and like, you can make the
Speaker 3: argument that while twenty twenty four was flummixing for a
Speaker 3: number of reasons, it was it was that because of
Speaker 3: the tremendous amount of injuries. They once again had at
Speaker 3: at their most important position in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen
Speaker 3: when they went five to seven, Like they were like
Speaker 3: not a talented team. They had good defensive players, but
Speaker 3: they were nowhere near the cream of the crop of
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve. They eventually got there, you know, five
Speaker 3: or six years later. But it is wild to see
Speaker 3: people say, like it's Kyle's time to go, it's Morgan's time.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just of the opinion that, like, until you
Speaker 3: have data that it's not working for several seasons in
Speaker 3: a row, it just doesn't make sense to want to know,
Speaker 3: move away from it. Like if we're if we're dividing
Speaker 3: seventeen by twenty spence, what is that? Come on, you're
Speaker 3: the math major. That's like ninety three percent success rate,
Speaker 3: meaning you're getting to a bowl at minimum ninety three
Speaker 3: percent of the time Kyle Whittingham has been your head coach?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Like, but again, I think this
Speaker 3: is also a byproduct and Kyle's almost a victim of
Speaker 3: his own success that he's cultivated here. Is that the
Speaker 3: expectations here are so high that when they're not met,
Speaker 3: when you're not smelling Roses. When you're not getting a
Speaker 3: first round playoff game or even a bye, people think
Speaker 3: that change needs to happen, and I'm just not of
Speaker 3: that opinion yet. And like I said, if we eventually
Speaker 3: get data, like if Utah cannot figure itself out in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six, we can have
Speaker 3: a conversation. But until then, I think it's low hanging
Speaker 3: fruit to say that Utah needs to make a coaching
Speaker 3: change because they've had one bad year. We talk about
Speaker 3: last year, spencely what eight and four with a bunch
Speaker 3: of dudes that like nobody's really heard it from anymore,
Speaker 3: Like that's insane. And last year was the best year
Speaker 3: that the Pac twelve ever had. So I understand that
Speaker 3: people were frustrated about the injuries. I get it, but
Speaker 3: like everybody needs to put the Twitter down, go listen
Speaker 3: to some Kenny G, you know, Christmas music and take
Speaker 3: it easy.
Speaker 2: Not Kenny G.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, yes, Kenny G.
Speaker 2: No, not Kenny G. Christmas music. There's so many good
Speaker 2: Christmas albums out there. You can't land on Kenny G.
Speaker 3: Do you background music? Background music? Spence background music.
Speaker 1: The only other person I know that likes Kenny g
Speaker 1: is my father. You listen to Kenny G.
Speaker 2: Bro Wow.
Speaker 3: If I have something in common with Big Dave, then
Speaker 3: that makes me feel very accomplished.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: But don't make me run down the catalog of his
Speaker 1: other Christmas legs because.
Speaker 2: It's depressing riding in the car with the man.
Speaker 1: But moving on, Look, let me remind you of a
Speaker 1: quote that you may have forgotten Christopher about coach with
Speaker 1: you either die a hero.
Speaker 3: Or or you live long enough to see yourself to
Speaker 3: come to villain.
Speaker 1: And to your point, I don't know how many of
Speaker 1: these are young Utah fans, millennial Utah fans go vape
Speaker 1: and stream on Twitch or whatever you do, but there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that I've been surprised. And
Speaker 1: every time I say this, I have to remind folks.
Speaker 1: So I'll say into this microphone, my opinion is that
Speaker 1: Kyle has earned the right to tell us when he's done.
Speaker 1: And I'm old enough to remember what Utah football was
Speaker 1: like before Coach Mac and before Urban and before Kyle,
Speaker 1: And to your point, two years ago was a phenomenal
Speaker 1: coaching job.
Speaker 2: And the year before that they were in the freaking
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl.
Speaker 1: But I wonder when it comes to the power brokers,
Speaker 1: the people that are writing checks for Utah football, and
Speaker 1: there is an arms race going on in collegiate athletics
Speaker 1: locally and nationally, and there is a feel that community
Speaker 1: that the arms race right now is being one by
Speaker 1: the school about forty miles down south that appears to
Speaker 1: have some very powerful basketball people writing checks for very excellent,
Speaker 1: exciting young basketball prodigies. And the football team had a
Speaker 1: better year than the you know, the team up here
Speaker 1: at the University of Utah. So I wonder if you're
Speaker 1: Taylor Randall and Mark Carlin and you have to listen
Speaker 1: to the voices of the people that are writing checks,
Speaker 1: are they on board with Kyle continuing or are they
Speaker 1: kind of pining for a bit of a change.
Speaker 2: And I honestly don't know the answer.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's I mean, this would be a great
Speaker 3: segment for reality check. I mean, I'm just saying, like
Speaker 3: we could go on for a couple hours about this
Speaker 3: and ran really dug into it, but we have six
Speaker 3: minutes BYU has a billionaire backer who is bankrolling its
Speaker 3: basketball team, and in this area, you can and I
Speaker 3: know that you know Cougar fans are doing backflips that
Speaker 3: they got Ajdabansa, but the reality is Aj will be
Speaker 3: there one year and if you know, they don't win
Speaker 3: the national title, it's cool that he was their year,
Speaker 3: but then he's gonna move on and probably be the
Speaker 3: number one overall pick in that next year's draft. Football, however,
Speaker 3: is always going to be the ultimate driver of interests,
Speaker 3: the health of the athletic department, whatever school you're at,
Speaker 3: for the most part. And I just don't know, like,
Speaker 3: if we're talking about big time Utah donors, are the
Speaker 3: Garths or the Eckles's or whomever, or the Huntsman's are
Speaker 3: they saying, like, yes, we need to get this defensive
Speaker 3: coordinator who's never been a head coach before in there
Speaker 3: because with his experience or lack thereof, he's going to
Speaker 3: change things overnight. I just don't see it, man, Like
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense. I can understand that there is
Speaker 3: a little bit of frustration considering that this year Utah
Speaker 3: was supposed to be in the playoff. Finally they are
Speaker 3: you know, quote unquote original BCS busters whatever. But like
Speaker 3: Utah has in theory the easiest transition from legendary head
Speaker 3: coach to next head coach. You're not going to have
Speaker 3: to go out and hire a search firm and try
Speaker 3: to vet who could come to Utah and understand the
Speaker 3: quirks and the ins and outs, and the fact that
Speaker 3: a third of the roster is going to be you know, white,
Speaker 3: a third is going to be black, a third is
Speaker 3: going to be Polynesian. That will all continue under Morgan
Speaker 3: because Utah is an interesting place and they figured out
Speaker 3: how to make it work, and that's why Utah has
Speaker 3: been so good for such a long time. But I just,
Speaker 3: for the life of me, don't understand why people think
Speaker 3: that getting rid of a guy who built what you
Speaker 3: pay for, what you watch, what gets you excited after
Speaker 3: one bad year. I don't understand why people are ready
Speaker 3: to get their pitchforks out and are frustrated that he's
Speaker 3: still in charge. Again, let's rely on data, and so far,
Speaker 3: the data has told us that in his twenty years,
Speaker 3: they've been bullet eligible ninety three percent of the time,
Speaker 3: they've won two conference championships, they've gone undefeated, they beat Alabama.
Speaker 3: What else do you want? So again, I think it's
Speaker 3: I think honestly spends it's just a victim of We've
Speaker 3: talked about this ad nauseum. Sports fans in the state
Speaker 3: spoiled beyond belief, whether you're a college fan or pro fan.
Speaker 3: Jazz fans are finally experiencing what it's like to tank
Speaker 3: in the NBA, and they hate it. College fans, whether
Speaker 3: you're BYU, Utah, whatever, they've had it good for the
Speaker 3: last fifty years, for the off and on. It just
Speaker 3: doesn't happen like this in other small places.
Speaker 2: So people are.
Speaker 3: Spoiled and this is how they react when things don't
Speaker 3: go their way.
Speaker 2: Timothy Shallow may thumbs up or thumbs down.
Speaker 3: Listen, man stunned at the game day you know, appearance,
Speaker 3: you know, props to the ultimate hipster doesn't do it
Speaker 3: for me. But apparently he's a huge Knicks fan, and
Speaker 3: like is you know, a secretive super sports fan, which
Speaker 3: I didn't see coming. So from an acting point of view,
Speaker 3: he's kind of a one trick pony in my mind,
Speaker 3: I want to see the Dylan movie for sure, But
Speaker 3: you know, props to him for getting on game day
Speaker 3: and basically showing out. I don't know if he ended
Speaker 3: up going undefeated on its picks, but he was impressive.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say you lose, well done, by
Speaker 1: the way, I was trying to catch off guard.
Speaker 2: But you're you're a sneaky cat, all right.
Speaker 1: Before I say you lose, I do want you to
Speaker 1: chime in on this because you referenced AJ Debantza signed
Speaker 1: with Brigham Young. BYU has two potential lottery picks on
Speaker 1: the roster this year. The Iago Demon kid might be
Speaker 1: a top five pick. They have two top thirty recruits
Speaker 1: including AJ next year and then the Burgess kid, I
Speaker 1: think is one twenty three. It's a top ten recruiting class.
Speaker 1: And and you know, you see a lot of people
Speaker 1: drying a straight line between Ryan Smith, owner of the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, and Ryan Smith bank rolling the BYU basketball program,
Speaker 1: regardless of what he tweets, by the way.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't work like that. There's not a straight line.
Speaker 1: But if a team has the pick ahead of the
Speaker 1: Jazz and they want to take AJ, they're going to
Speaker 1: take him. So this is not a farm system. But
Speaker 1: are there benefits that the Jazz and you know, their
Speaker 1: ownership group, can you know, reap a little bit as
Speaker 1: a result of BYU being right now the epicenter of
Speaker 1: college basketball attention.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I just think the ping pong
Speaker 3: balls bounce the way they do, and it's just it
Speaker 3: would be a bridge too far for me to like
Speaker 3: put those two things together. I think they're two separate things.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It does help that the Jazz are bad and that
Speaker 3: there are going to be more talented players in these
Speaker 3: future drafts, regardless of where they go to school. But
Speaker 3: you just have to have the ping pong balls fall
Speaker 3: your way, and historically the Jazz haven't. So if that
Speaker 3: means next year they get this, next year they get
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag and finally get the number one overall pick,
Speaker 3: I'm sure Jazz fans will be pissed that they won't
Speaker 3: get the number one pick the following year and get
Speaker 3: BYU Cougar legend aj Depantsa. I just I think it's
Speaker 3: just asking a little too much to try to put
Speaker 3: those two pieces together. But fascinated to see what happens
Speaker 3: at BYU. I mean, it's they put together a very
Speaker 3: talented roster and we'll see how they do. They just
Speaker 3: happen to play in the best basketball conference in the country,
Speaker 3: so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Christopher, Thank you, sir, have an excellent weekend. I'll with
Speaker 1: chat too, my man