WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:24.559 Kf I AM six forties later with Mo Kelly with 2 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.440 live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and the iHeartRadio app. Have 3 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:31.679 a huge show for you tonight. It's a beautiful day outside. 4 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.039 It was a nice drive on the way in, wasn't 5 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:39.159 too much traffic. Let's get to it. How about you. 6 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:41.399 Do you have a favorite grocery store? 7 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:42.880 I do. 8 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.399 In fact, I will drive an extra five or six 9 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.880 miles to get one of my preferred grocery locations. I'm sorry, 10 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.439 but I'm not stopping at Food for Less. If that 11 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:58.359 offends you, that's too bad. I'll go to Albertson's. There's 12 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.640 not a pavilions around me. And I'll definitely stop at Ralph's, 13 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:03.600 except for the one that's right by my house because 14 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:06.920 that one has too many gunshots fired and according to 15 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.480 Mark Ronner, might even have Ladies of the Evening in 16 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:09.879 front of them. 17 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.319 Depending on the location, that might just be my neighborhood. 18 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:17.519 I don't know. Good evening, Mark, Hello, Mo, good evening, Stephan, 19 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.239 How you doing, sir? Hello? How are you sir? All right? 20 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.239 Just want to check in, make sure everyone was here. 21 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:24.760 We got Carnacia here. She's going to be managing the 22 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.599 chat on YouTube, on Facebook, on Instagram. So if you 23 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:33.640 have an issue, be careful because Carnecia blocks more people 24 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.959 than I do. Be on your best behavior, and she 25 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:40.560 blocks them quicker than I would. She's like, my you 26 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:43.439 have like the angel and the devil from your shoulder. 27 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:48.000 She's the devil one. That's not true, no, she but 28 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:50.959 I will say this. I watch it. She gives a 29 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:52.680 quick warning right away. 30 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.719 Yeah, I should call a foul next, and there's an 31 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:57.439 ejecture one chance. 32 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:57.840 That's it. 33 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.920 After that you're in time out. She is a person 34 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.319 after my heart because she just understands. There will be 35 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.840 no foolishness allowed in the chat, but some of the 36 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.960 subjects will be discussing. Tonight, Kroger is going to close 37 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:15.560 sixty locations, and if you like me, that might impact 38 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.719 you depending on where you like to shop, where you 39 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.759 have to shop, because with me, there's certain foods I 40 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.599 know that are only available at my rouse, the one 41 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:27.479 that I want to go to, the one that has 42 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.039 the least amount of bullet holes in the side of 43 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.360 the building. No, seriously, I actually shop at the one 44 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.560 on Redonal Beach Boulevard in Venice. So don't be surprised 45 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.120 if you see me there. That's why I do all 46 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:41.000 my grocery shopping. Well, what kind of foods are we 47 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:45.360 talking about here that you must go there for? They 48 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:49.719 don't have a Sonic out here. For example, Sonic has 49 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:54.560 these tater tots which are so damn good, so good, you. 50 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:55.520 Know what I'm talking about. 51 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.120 They are so good, and they're not in a lot 52 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:05.560 of grocery stores. But this particular rouse has frozen. Yes, 53 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:08.199 it's such a bummer that we don't have a Sonic 54 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:08.599 out here. 55 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.800 We don't. I think what's the nearest one, maybe Fullertin 56 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:11.439 or something like that. 57 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.080 Yeah, it's not close, So I will get my son 58 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:19.520 tater tots from there. They are head, head and shoulders 59 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:20.919 above all the other tater tots? 60 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:22.439 And then what do you air frame or put them 61 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:22.840 in the oven? 62 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:23.080 Oh? 63 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.759 No, no air frier? Okay, all right, airfire ten minutes 64 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:27.240 of three hundred and fifty degrees. 65 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.159 This is important to know what. Everybody loves tots and 66 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:33.080 this isn't even a Napoleon dynamite thing either. 67 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.479 But not everyone can make them. Well, now's seasoned differently? No, 68 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.599 because you don't want soggy tots. I'll tell you that 69 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.520 right now. No, soggy tots. 70 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:45.439 Look no disrespect to Orida, but they're just not as good. 71 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.960 There's too much salt. It's seasoned differently. But thus one 72 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.520 of the foods that I have to get from my 73 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:57.560 particular rouse. And also there's some fake egg products It's 74 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.879 called eggs from plants that I'll buy. 75 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.000 They usually have their in stock. 76 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.360 Long story short, I've found out that I have somewhat 77 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.120 of an egg allergy and it makes it difficult on 78 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.280 my arthritis. True story if I eat too many eggs, 79 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.920 and so I've been eating some egg alternative products. But 80 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:20.959 if you like, if I was eating egg whites and 81 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.600 that product egg beaters, and egg Beaters has egg whites 82 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.800 in them, and so you know, it was wreaking havoc 83 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:33.120 on my body. So I had to find particular products 84 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.360 and they always have it at that rouse. 85 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.319 You know, I feel like egg Beaters really missed a 86 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.439 golden opportunity by not shooting any commercials with Ike Turner. 87 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:47.040 Hello, Hello, come on food. 88 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.600 That would have worked five years before the B two movie. 89 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.920 Oh please, we can't cancel you, but we can cut 90 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.920 off your mic. Mark said that Mark, Yes, send all 91 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.439 hate mail to at Mark Runner. 92 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:06.639 The real Mark Runners, how many gold It's going to 93 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:07.480 be one of those nights. 94 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.879 We're also going to talk about how the LAPD has 95 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.079 been allowed to use drones as first responders under a 96 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.120 new program. I don't know if I predicted this, I 97 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.800 don't know if I called it, but I definitely set 98 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.399 off the conversation surrounding the use of drones and what 99 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.480 I think is going to be an uncomfortable conversation with 100 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.720 the Constitution. That's how I like to think of it, 101 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.480 because when it comes to privacy, search and seizure and 102 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.759 you have drones out there basically mapping your house, I 103 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.040 don't know if I'm comfortable with that, And we'll revisit 104 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:37.920 that conversation. 105 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:40.319 We'll talk about that a little bit later. So much 106 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:41.120 to do tonight. 107 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.720 Of course, you can tune in on YouTube, you can 108 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.680 tune in on Facebook and Instagram. It's Later with Moe Kelly. 109 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.240 We're live everywhere. In addition to that on the iHeartRadio app. 110 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.920 We'll talk about Croker when we come back. 111 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.040 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 112 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.000 KFI AM six forty. 113 00:05:59.600 --> 00:05:59.720 Am. 114 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.240 Later with Moe Kelly, and I'll say a last segment 115 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.519 I have my place where I got a shop as 116 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:06.839 far as grocery shopping is. 117 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.480 And I don't think I'm the only one. 118 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.560 I think that you should recognize there's a difference in 119 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:15.560 quality between grocery stores. And I'm pretty much brand loyal. 120 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.959 Now there's an occasional Vaughan's I'll end up at if 121 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:23.319 there's just nothing in my particular path, you know, a 122 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.360 from on my way home and I need to stop somewhere. 123 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.639 Vaughn's will do. But I'm not stopping at Food for Less, 124 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.360 not doing it. And if you don't know, Food for 125 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.800 Less is a subsidiary of Kroger, as is Ralph's. Like 126 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.839 Ralphs is their lexus and Food for Less is there 127 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:45.199 a Toyota? Think of it that way, except Food for 128 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.560 Less is not even a Toyota. It's really really bad. 129 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.519 It's their Oldsmobile Delta eighty eight. 130 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.639 There we go. Do they have Food for lesson in Washington? 131 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:54.920 I don't believe so. 132 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:55.120 No. 133 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.800 Yeah, I haven't seen them outside of California. It may 134 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:01.000 be just a California brand. But Food for is really 135 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:05.160 really bad. And unfortunately, Food for Less always is near 136 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:08.040 where I live, and the routs near where I Live 137 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.680 is really bad as well. The reason I mentioned that 138 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.720 is because Kroger Food for Less than Routes, the parent 139 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:19.160 company Kroger, has said that it's going to close sixty 140 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:24.120 US stores in the next eighteen months as a as 141 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.120 a point of consolidation and hopefully improving products. Now, they 142 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.079 don't list the prospective stores which are going to be closed. 143 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:34.920 But if you're just to take the eyeball test and 144 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:37.600 go through some of these stores. So the one I 145 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.920 that's close to my house that I can't stand and 146 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.800 refuse to go to because they're well put this way, 147 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.639 if you walk into your Routs or Food for Less 148 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.639 and they have armed security, that's probably not a place 149 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.279 where you want to shop. And I mean I'm not 150 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.240 talking about the old security guard. I'm talking about armed 151 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.680 security because cause shots may ring out at any moment. 152 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.600 That's my rous and it's that I want to say, 153 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.360 Vermont and one hundred and twentieth Street. 154 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.839 So what is the caliber of the security guards of years? 155 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.600 Because mine they were a little liffy, You weren't You 156 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.240 weren't confident that if stuff started going down that they'd 157 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:19.000 be able to handle it. 158 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:23.759 No, these were decent size, decent age youngish men. 159 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.199 I want to say, maybe early thirties. Are we talking 160 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.759 like gravy seals here? No? No, no, no, no, no 161 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.360 serious guys. No, these seems like seem. 162 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.360 Like guys who are probably trying to get into the 163 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:34.200 police academy. 164 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:36.080 I don't think that's how you do that. 165 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.759 I'm just saying it's looked like they they're maybe law 166 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.759 enforcement adjacent. All I know is they got their you know, 167 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:47.600 they got their gun. And it's not a revolver. Okay, 168 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.960 it's probably like it's a glock. From what I could tell, 169 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:52.600 I wasn't like, you know, putting my hand on it 170 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:53.639 to sea, but it seemed like it. 171 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.919 Was a glock. Yeah, that's discouraging. Yeah, so I'm not 172 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:56.720 going to shop there. 173 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.360 And I say that to say, uh, the rouse by 174 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.279 my house, please lease close it, Please just take it away, 175 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.960 because when you walk in, and I've walked in it before, 176 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.279 not only is there a likelihood of violence breaking out, 177 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.159 but it smells rantidd there. It's like how can people 178 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.759 shop here? But then you remember, yeah, where I live 179 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.039 there's pretty much a food desert. You don't have a 180 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.639 lot of grocery items. That's a serious point. There are 181 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.440 a lot of not a lot of places to shop 182 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:26.720 as far as grocery options, and so you get what 183 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.639 you get, and you're stuck with with what you're stuck with. 184 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.600 And I'm quite sure that's one of the lowest performing stores. 185 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.159 If you ever go by one twentieth in Vermont, you'll 186 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.399 see it's really, really bad. But for many people it's 187 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.360 the only option. And if Kroger's going to be closing stores, 188 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.480 I earnestly beg of them, please close that one, but 189 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:49.960 put up something better. 190 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.039 Oh, raise it to the ground. Yeah, there's no good 191 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:54.000 coming out of that store. 192 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.919 Now, you're not the same kind of degenerate vampire late 193 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.799 night person I am. And I go to the store 194 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.000 after work a lot of the time. And I don't 195 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.519 know if you know how Harriet gets at Ralphs when 196 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.759 they're trying to shut the doors at one and people 197 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.120 still want in. They think they're gonna get some booze 198 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.600 or something, and the security guards like, nope, you got 199 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:13.000 to come back tomorrow, and people they don't take no 200 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:14.120 for an answer all the time. 201 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.080 They do not, and the routs by being I think 202 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.679 they close at eleven just because it gets too dangerous. 203 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.000 After that I don't stop at that one. Like I'll say, 204 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:24.480 I'll stop at the occasional Vaughans. Going home from work, 205 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.120 I'll stop at that vaughns On Pass, I think it 206 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.360 is it pass that's where I go. 207 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.279 Yeah, that's that's the And I say, I go to Vaughn's. 208 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:33.200 Not choosing Vaughn's. 209 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.960 It's just the nearest grocery store because I'd rather stop 210 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:38.399 on this side of town than mine, especially if you 211 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:39.759 have like something last minute. 212 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.080 It's literally a four minute drive from the studio. 213 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:44.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't know what there's a 214 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.159 rouse around here, so I just go to von Well, 215 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.159 I'll say the routes that's nearest us is. Oh, you know, 216 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.440 it's what I'm talking about. Oh yeah, No, it's not 217 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.360 a little sketchy. It's a lot of sketchy. Yeah, it's yeah, 218 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:59.240 there's a lot of illegal things happening in that parking lot. 219 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:02.279 And I didn't expect it in Burbank. And I was like, oh, 220 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:05.360 I guess hood areas exist out here too, Oh. 221 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:06.720 There are there are. 222 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:08.720 It's just you you know when you when you're in 223 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:10.480 a hood, you know that you're in a hood. 224 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:12.840 Also, it's a long standing joke. I don't even know 225 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.559 if you remember when we were kids, Johnny Carson would 226 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.919 never fail to get a laugh when he mentioned shopping 227 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:21.519 at Ralphs because it was so unthinkable that Johnny Carson 228 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:22.840 would set foot in the Ralph's. 229 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:30.279 Well, it's interesting you say that because in like Studio City, 230 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.559 they have some very good Ralphs markets. 231 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.200 I think it's at Vineland. 232 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.559 And when I used to live in Studio City, I 233 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.840 would go in that Ralph's and you would see quote 234 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:45.080 unquote celebrities Hollywood figures all the time, all the time. 235 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:49.360 I mean it did be character actors that be movie stars. 236 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.120 I can't remember all the people. Like I walked in 237 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:55.159 one day and there was like Wayne Knight walk in. 238 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.919 I'm trying to think all the people. It's various people 239 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:02.480 from TV shows. You recognize him by faith, Oh Adam Saylor. 240 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.480 One night, you will see people and then you realize, oh, yeah, 241 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.720 they do go grocery shopping too. 242 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.240 I had no idea. I wouldn't think Ralphs is for 243 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:12.879 the A listers Wayne Knight, I believe. 244 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.879 Well you think of the it's not who the A 245 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.799 listers are, it's the location. And on Ventura Boulevard. You 246 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:23.679 see like two or three different Ralphs. Now, I think 247 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:26.399 they have a Whole Foods. Yeah, they do, but it's 248 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.440 going towards Sherman Oaks, So you have one or two choices. 249 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.840 It's either Whole Foods or Ralphs on Ventura Boulevard. 250 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.679 You know, in six or seven years living here, I've 251 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.279 still never run into a celebrity at a grocery store. 252 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.720 You see me every single day time for the news. 253 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.360 I knew you'd appreciate that. But Kroger is going to 254 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.600 be closing sixty of their stores, which means a lot 255 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.159 of Ralphs. Please close the one nearest to my house 256 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.840 for Stephan's sake and mine as well. It's Later with 257 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:56.840 mo Kelly ca if I AM six forty. We are 258 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.039 live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and when we come back, 259 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.919 we have to talk about LAP and their use of 260 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:09.440 drones going forward for first responders. That is probably going 261 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.240 to end up as a constitutional issue, but we're going 262 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.039 to talk about it when we come back. 263 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:18.360 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 264 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:54.919 KFI AM six forty. 265 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.559 KFI Later with mo Kelly Live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, 266 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:44.799 and the iHeartRadio app. 267 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:46.440 And this is an ongoing conversation. 268 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.159 I'm trying to be very transparent with you and open 269 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:55.600 about how I think about these issues. And I think 270 00:13:55.639 --> 00:14:00.000 about not how they're presented, but how not only an 271 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:04.000 intended consequences, but how they are likely to evolve. And 272 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.879 when we talk about drone technology and law enforcement, of 273 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:12.120 course everyone wants to be safe. Of course everyone wants 274 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:15.759 law enforcement to be safe. Let's make that acknowledgment that 275 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:19.240 we agree on. We agree on all that, hopefully we do, 276 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.080 but then let's see where it goes from there. And 277 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:27.039 I am uncomfortable with the idea of the use of 278 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:31.679 drones in certain situations. We've talked about how drones will 279 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:36.159 be used as far as finding out who is responsible 280 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.480 for the use of illegal fireworks, and I complain about 281 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:40.559 fireworks all the time. 282 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:42.080 I would like the people who are. 283 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:49.360 Using them, selling them, purchasing them to be found and arrested. 284 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:50.919 Accordingly, it is a crime. 285 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.639 But I also know that a drone flying over people's 286 00:14:55.639 --> 00:15:00.000 houses in over backyards to discern who is doing something 287 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:01.840 illegal makes me feel uncomfortable. 288 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:06.440 That was just fireworks. Now the LAPD is. 289 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.360 They have been approved by a civilian oversight body to 290 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.120 an update to their policy which would allow drones to 291 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:19.159 be used in more situations, including calls for service like 292 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:22.279 you call nine to one one. Depending on the nature 293 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.559 of the call, they'll send out a drone in advance, 294 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:29.320 like an advanced scout, to know what police will be 295 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:30.519 happening upon. 296 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.080 And I get it. You want to keep law enforcement 297 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.080 officers safe. I get it. 298 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.320 And according to the new guidelines, they'll be used for 299 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:44.360 high risk incident, investigative purpose, large scale event, natural disaster, 300 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.879 and so forth. But here's the thing. 301 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.679 If you talk about how they're going to. 302 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:56.120 Be used, you can also discern who most likely they'll 303 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.480 be used in conjunction with. For example, they'll be sending 304 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.480 out drones ahead of officers to help with dangerous standoffs, 305 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:11.039 crowd control monitoring of mass protests for safety reasons wink wink, 306 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.919 But department official stress that it will not be used 307 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:20.399 to track or monitor demonstrators who aren't engaged in criminal activities. Well, 308 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:25.360 if you're monitoring a demonstration, you're monitoring everyone. That's inclusive 309 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.120 of the people who might be an agitator. That's inclusive 310 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.039 of the people who are genuinely protesting and it's not 311 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.519 about me trying to say that there is no good 312 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.879 use for drones and surveillance and law enforcement. I'm not 313 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.240 saying that at all. I'm just very very careful and 314 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.799 particular when you talk about the use of drones for 315 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:53.360 mass surveillance, because when you're sending out the drones, it's 316 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.320 not to protect people, it's to surveil people. 317 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:57.399 Let's be clear. 318 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:03.039 When we're using it for first responders, you're sending out 319 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.119 the drones, and there's nothing wrong with this, but let's 320 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:06.720 be clear on what it is and what it isn't. 321 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.440 You're sending out the drones as a look ahead for police, 322 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:15.079 not as a response to help you, the lay person, 323 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.279 the civilian. If you call nine one one, and let's 324 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.599 say it's a domestic call, and this is all hypothetical, 325 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:22.960 but I try to reason this all the way through 326 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.480 and see it to its logical conclusion. You call nine 327 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:28.559 one one for a domestic dispute and the drone goes out, 328 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:30.279 The drone is not going to get there and help you. 329 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.200 The drone is going to get there and give the 330 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.200 lay of the land for law enforcement so they know 331 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.039 what they're walking into. And I'm okay with that, because 332 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.799 police should not have to walk in and get broadsided 333 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.279 or blindsided by something, because everybody should be able to 334 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.279 go home at the end of the night. But I 335 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:54.839 am careful in my support because I don't want drones 336 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.279 just hovering in my neighborhood because they are look looking 337 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:06.559 for quote unquote, say it with me, criminals. I know 338 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:12.920 what it's like to fit the description quote unquote. I 339 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:19.279 know what it's like when you are profiled. I know 340 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.680 what that's like to walk through a store, for example, 341 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.920 and the assumption is that you're going to steal something. 342 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:35.640 I know how that then translates to treatment. It may 343 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.960 be a drone, it may be an actual law enforcement officer, 344 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:44.039 but I know, even under the best circumstances and intentions, 345 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:51.319 it can and historically has disproportionately negatively impacted certain communities. 346 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.759 I know what it's like to be driving through Venice 347 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.319 and be stopped and asked, how did you get this car? 348 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.640 How did you afford this car? And my answer is 349 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:09.599 always respectful and the same is my license and or 350 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:14.359 registration not in order. I remember I was in Venice 351 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.759 by Venice Beach driving a convertible as two thousand, relatively 352 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:21.319 new got pulled over. 353 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.279 Officer just went straight forward, how did you get this car? 354 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:25.759 So what I. 355 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.839 Think about law enforcement techniques and even though they may 356 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:34.039 be designed to protect the community, I do think about 357 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:39.039 how they may be misused because humans are fallible, Humans 358 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:44.160 have biases. Humans under the best circumstances don't always have 359 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:49.480 great judgment. And this concerns me when you have these 360 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.359 first responders going out and monitoring, because we just had 361 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:57.519 an array of protests here in Los Angeles, and if 362 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:02.079 you have crowd control, a crowd mon and mass monitoring 363 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:03.440 of people, and say, well, what do you have to 364 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.759 worry about if you're not doing anything criminal? That's not 365 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.759 the point. That's not the point. And I've made this 366 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.759 statement before. It's like, look, I don't have anything stuffed 367 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.319 up my behind, but it doesn't mean that I want 368 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.279 to submit to a cavity search. Some things are about 369 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:20.880 the principle of it all and if you're okay with it, 370 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.640 and well, let me rephrase, I find that the people 371 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:29.000 who have absolutely no complaint or concerned are the people 372 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:33.599 who it does not impact and probably won't impact. If 373 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.799 you've never had to worry about fitting the description, then 374 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.920 this probably won't bother you at all. If you've never 375 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.240 been assumed to be doing something criminal, then this won't 376 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.400 have any reference point for you. If you've never worried 377 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:56.359 about walking somewhere and being followed and monitored, then this 378 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.880 probably won't resonate with you. We all have a different 379 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.880 prison in which we look at life, and we are 380 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.400 the sum total of our experiences. And I can tell 381 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.960 you things and you probably say, nah, that didn't happen, MO, 382 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:14.160 And yes, my experiences are real, and I can recount 383 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.839 them to you each and every time. And I can 384 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.319 tell you specifically, line item by line item, the times 385 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.240 that I know that I was profiled and pulled over, 386 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.880 that I will stopped and question told to get out 387 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.119 and put my hands on the hood of a police car. 388 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.200 If you don't know hot hands what those are, then 389 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.160 you don't know what I'm talking about. If you've never 390 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:38.279 been sat down on the curb ask where you're going, 391 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.079 you won't know what I'm talking about. So I'm always 392 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.960 always suspicious, I think that's the right word suspicious when 393 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:52.440 we're talking about another layer of surveillance being used for 394 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.119 not even criminal purposes. That's what it is. When you're 395 00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:59.680 telling me that you're going to be using these drones 396 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:05.119 to monitor crowds. You're you're not talking about a a 397 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:10.440 criminal call. You're just talking about a social mass monitoring. 398 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.440 And that makes me uncomfortable because I know how it 399 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.799 can be misused and abused, and we don't know, and 400 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:19.920 and and in the story in the La Times, the 401 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.480