Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Dan Ray is here along with Rob Brooks.
Speaker 2: Robert is back at the Broadcast Central headquarters. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty impressive, pretty impressive title there, Rob Broadcast Central Headquarters.
Speaker 2: I'm simply broadcasting from somewhere remotely. But Rob will take
Speaker 2: care of you with phone calls. Beginning after nine o'clock
Speaker 2: first hour tonight, we will talk with four very special guests,
Speaker 2: tell you about all sorts of things that maybe you
Speaker 2: are unaware of. Going to talk about Valentine's Day, going
Speaker 2: to talk about stress relief robotics, going to talk about
Speaker 2: February is Black History Month. In just a couple of seconds,
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you that at nine o'clock tonight,
Speaker 2: we will be talking with Professor John Ebel. He is
Speaker 2: a research scientist at Boston College's Western Observatory who studies earthquakes.
Speaker 2: We had an aftershock today, we had an earthquake on Monday,
Speaker 2: So we're going to spend some time and if you
Speaker 2: want to ask any questions of someone who has all
Speaker 2: the answers about earthquakes, you want to be with us
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock. Then later on tonight, we're going to
Speaker 2: take a deep dive into the RFK Junior battle royale
Speaker 2: at the US Senate today the committee hearings, This was
Speaker 2: the US Senate Committee in Finance that it was a
Speaker 2: it was a brawl. A lot of the Democrats don't
Speaker 2: like RFK Junior. Well, let me tell you, Noah does
Speaker 2: his cousin Caroline Kennedy. So we'll get to all of
Speaker 2: that later on tonight, but we're going to start it
Speaker 2: off with our first guest here. And by the way,
Speaker 2: my name is Dan Ray. I am the host of
Speaker 2: the show. Rob is the producer. As I mentioned, of course,
Speaker 2: Marita aka Lightning is the producer. During the day, we
Speaker 2: are delighted to welcome back another interview with a Freedom
Speaker 2: Trail player. Everyone knows the Freedom Trail in Boston and
Speaker 2: the Freedom Trail Foundation and begin on February first, which
Speaker 2: is the beginning of Black History Month. One of the
Speaker 2: Freedom Trail players, who do not like to give their
Speaker 2: real names, which is perfectly fine, in the role of
Speaker 2: Phyllis Wheatley, is going to tell us about the African
Speaker 2: American Patriots Tours that will begin this Saturday. I believe
Speaker 2: Phyllis wheatly. Welcome to Night's Side.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm well, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: You're very welcome. You're very welcome.
Speaker 2: So tell us about the This is a special tour
Speaker 2: that is conducted during the month, the entire month of February.
Speaker 2: Is it available most every day in February?
Speaker 4: It's available every weekend throughout the month of February. But
Speaker 4: we always offer it as a private tour throughout the year.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fair enough. Okay, so Saturdays and Sundays. We'll
Speaker 2: get to all of the logistics in a moment. But
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about the Obviously, I know
Speaker 2: that it celebrates the contributions that African Americans made, particularly
Speaker 2: around the time leading up to and during the American Revolution.
Speaker 2: Tell us what people would expect to see and what
Speaker 2: they would expect to hear during a tour.
Speaker 3: That sounds really fascinating.
Speaker 4: Sure, well, I get into my personal history as Philly
Speaker 4: sweet Lee. I am the first African American and third
Speaker 4: American woman to ever publish a book of poetry. I
Speaker 4: get into a lot of more esoteric Boston history.
Speaker 5: We get into.
Speaker 4: What's called Negro election Day, which is kind of more
Speaker 4: interesting aspect about Boking Commons history. And of course we
Speaker 4: get into American heroes like Edward Brooks and Elizabeth Mumbtt
Speaker 4: Freeman and Crook Walker and other revolutionaries that people might
Speaker 4: not have heard about that we love to educate people.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard about Edward Brooks. I certainly knew I'm
Speaker 2: a Senator Edbrooke, So tell me about Edward brook Rook.
Speaker 4: That's what I said, Edward brook Brook.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I don't know if it was if there
Speaker 2: was a person that I had.
Speaker 4: Missed as absolutely fabulous senator from Massachusetts, and he has
Speaker 4: a lot of really fun stories about his time in
Speaker 4: the Senate that we share on the tour, and that.
Speaker 3: He fought bravely in World War Two.
Speaker 6: Absolutely it was.
Speaker 2: An attorney general here and was elected to the US
Speaker 2: Senate in nineteen sixty six and served two terms. And
Speaker 2: I really considered him a great friend. At the time
Speaker 2: I covered him as a reporter, but he his time
Speaker 2: in the Senate extended to nineteen seventy eight. But let's
Speaker 2: talk on the tour. Normally, when we think of the
Speaker 2: Freedom Trail, we're going from place to place to place.
Speaker 2: Now I know February's winter time. How long is this tour?
Speaker 2: What can people look forward to and what caution would
Speaker 2: you give them other than to dress as warmly as
Speaker 2: they could.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we encourage people to take out the hot hands.
Speaker 4: It is in fact a New England winter, so it
Speaker 4: could be fifty, it could be twenty. I cannot tell
Speaker 4: you which. But get into we get into a revolutionary period.
Speaker 4: We definitely talk about good old Christmas giving up his
Speaker 4: life for this country, and we get in yep, and
Speaker 4: we get into people like Koke Walker and Elizabeth Woombtt
Speaker 4: Freeman who fought here in Massachusetts to end slavery here
Speaker 4: in Massachusetts and really fought for rights for all people
Speaker 4: and really were moved by the Revolution to do these
Speaker 4: wonderful things for everyone, and a lot of times their
Speaker 4: stories don't get told. And also we tell fun stories
Speaker 4: about how Paul Revere is linked to a lot of
Speaker 4: anti slavery movements and how he has a secret link
Speaker 4: to enslavement in Massachusetts during his midnight ride. But you
Speaker 4: got to take the tour to find that out.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And of course Massachusetts has a long in the in
Speaker 2: the seventeen eighteenth century and even before that, a long
Speaker 2: abolitionist history of which the stage.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, we get into Governor Andrew, we get into Shaw,
Speaker 4: we get into the fabulous fifty fourth and the movie Glory.
Speaker 2: Oh, let me tell you, I'm very familiar with the
Speaker 2: fifty fourth. I grew up in Reidville. Camp Meggs is
Speaker 2: where the fifty fourth trained the Black Soldiers under the
Speaker 2: leadership of Colonel Robert Gouldshaw. And the opening I don't
Speaker 2: know the last time you watched the movie Glory, but
Speaker 2: that first scene it opens with the hoof prints courses
Speaker 2: and it says Camp Meiggs me ei Gs, Revale, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: And I want you to know that as a little boy,
Speaker 2: I played probably a million baseball, football, basketball, and hockey
Speaker 2: games year round on Camp Meigs. We lived on the
Speaker 2: stret Yeah, oh yeah, I knew.
Speaker 4: That's the wonderful thing about Boston is that we were
Speaker 4: linked from the past today to our own personal history.
Speaker 4: And it's just such a beautiful, full circle moment that
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, Phyllis, and this is the truth.
Speaker 2: When we played on that little league field back in
Speaker 2: the early nineteen sixties, okay, late fifties, early sixties, they
Speaker 2: had these huge Rocks in center field. And I am
Speaker 2: convinced that the spirits of the men who were training
Speaker 2: on this field one hundred years earlier, because they were
Speaker 2: training in the early eighteen sixties to believe that they
Speaker 2: were sitting watching us play baseball.
Speaker 3: I convinced of that, and.
Speaker 4: Truly a nineteenth century sports so it would have been
Speaker 4: a game after their own hearts, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, Phyllis, I really enjoyed chatting with you. So
Speaker 2: how can folks get in touch? Give us the best
Speaker 2: website so folks can take the tour and they can
Speaker 2: meet Phyllis Wheatley in person.
Speaker 3: And in character.
Speaker 4: Oh vfreedomcrail dot org. Tickets are available and re Saturday
Speaker 4: and sale throughout the month of February at ten forty
Speaker 4: five am, and also you can buy tickets at the
Speaker 4: Visitors Information Center on the Commons day of if you wish.
Speaker 3: Sounds great, sounds great. Well.
Speaker 2: Thanks for keeping all of these the stories of these
Speaker 2: American heroes alive.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, fellos, Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: You have a great evening.
Speaker 2: All right, you as well. When we get back, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about something else that deals with the
Speaker 2: month of February, and of course that is Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk with a national psychic who
Speaker 2: will share with you six secrets to finding true love.
Speaker 2: Her name is Deborah Graham. She star of TLC's The
Speaker 2: Psychic Matchmaker and host of the podcast The Psychic Connection.
Speaker 2: All of that coming up and a whole lot more
Speaker 2: tonight on Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. We've just begun.
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Speaker 1: This, Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window
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Speaker 2: Well, when you say February, everybody thinks of Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: Now I think of groundhog Day. But maybe I'm a
Speaker 2: little different. Anyway, Valentine's Day is more important than groundhog Day.
Speaker 2: The only more important day is the opening of spring training.
Speaker 2: But with it with us right now is Deborah Graham.
Speaker 2: She's the star of TLC's The Psychic Matchmaker, host of
Speaker 2: the podcast The Psychic Connection, and she has expert advice
Speaker 2: for love, career, family, and more. But we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about your love life. Welcome Debah, how are you
Speaker 2: going to Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. The
Speaker 7: pleasure is all mine to be here. How are you doing?
Speaker 2: I think I'm doing okay. I think I'm doing okay.
Speaker 2: But it's early, so lakes could go off the crack anything. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: I go to midnight eight to midnight, So we're.
Speaker 5: Talking to have extra cup of java.
Speaker 2: Oh let me tell you, no, I'm always I'm always
Speaker 2: ready for action. Look, you have six secrets to finding
Speaker 2: true love? There are some people in my audience who
Speaker 2: are still true who's still looking for true love? Probably
Speaker 2: most people in my audience. So share us some of
Speaker 2: those secrets. What should we be looking for those of
Speaker 2: us who are happily married, that's a different situation. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the single folks out there who look at
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day with a sense of maybe apprehension and anticipation.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right.
Speaker 5: About that, But also the people who are married, they
Speaker 5: also need a.
Speaker 6: Little extra boost.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to spice up.
Speaker 6: That love life.
Speaker 5: You got to always keep that energy going. As I
Speaker 5: like to say, wills in motion. So the sick secrets
Speaker 5: of love. People call me all the time, whether they're
Speaker 5: looking for love, a relationship, a partnership, whether they're contacting
Speaker 5: me on the psychic connection with Debrah Graham or doing
Speaker 5: a one on one reading. However it may be the
Speaker 5: first rule of thumb is to trust in your inner self.
Speaker 5: And when you have that self confidence, you don't need
Speaker 5: to be something that she or he is looking for.
Speaker 5: You just need to be you and trust in yourself
Speaker 5: and don't let those first impressions cloud you down. Because
Speaker 5: sometimes when you go out on that first date, you're like, Oh,
Speaker 5: that person just was nervous. They didn't talk to me
Speaker 5: as much. Maybe they were feeling anxiety just as much
Speaker 5: as you were feeling the anxiety. Three follow my rule
Speaker 5: of three. This is a big one.
Speaker 7: Go out on three dates within three weeks, and stay monogamous.
Speaker 5: That means don't put the lizard into lily pad for
Speaker 5: three months. It means no physical intercourse.
Speaker 3: I have never heard that one.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: That's what we call deep and large. And if you
Speaker 5: could get there, let me tell you anything we're working
Speaker 5: on is absolutely work waiting on.
Speaker 7: And also very important.
Speaker 5: Rule of four is to find that twin flame soul
Speaker 5: made absolutely without a benefit of a doubt. You have
Speaker 5: a twin flame soulmate, a carmit connection. Whether you're nineteen
Speaker 5: or ninety nine. Anybody can find love at any age.
Speaker 5: I believe that age is just a number.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I.
Speaker 2: Got I got a question here. Okay, I'm I am
Speaker 2: not a passive talk show host. As you will find out.
Speaker 2: When I last checked, there were eight billion people in
Speaker 2: the world. So what are the odds of finding that
Speaker 2: one soul?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 5: Well, you're right about that.
Speaker 7: I have to say the truth because finding a soulmate
Speaker 7: is probably easier to win the lottery than to find
Speaker 7: lover a soulmate. That's probably one of the hardest things.
Speaker 7: But there is a partner out there for every single person.
Speaker 2: But it does it mean that I'm being honest when
Speaker 2: I say this, because I've thought about this and people say, oh,
Speaker 2: your soulmate's out there, you're a doppelganger or whatever. Look,
Speaker 2: I assume there has to be a few. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: there's one on some continent that you'll never visit, therefore
Speaker 2: you'll never meet. But you got to at least hope
Speaker 2: you have one soulmate within the metro area.
Speaker 5: If you get my drift, Well, you have many soulmates.
Speaker 5: You have three different kinds of soulmates.
Speaker 7: You have soulmates that you could connect with somebody just
Speaker 7: to have kids with.
Speaker 5: Maybe you were not meant to be together, but you
Speaker 5: were meant to bring the kids in. Then you have
Speaker 5: a soulmate that could even be a friend, as I
Speaker 5: call it a for now. And and you have what
Speaker 5: you call the twin flame soulmates. That's when your two
Speaker 5: physical bodies but one connected soul. I will tell you
Speaker 5: that ninety percent of the world never ever gets to
Speaker 5: meet their twin flame soulmate because either they weren't patient
Speaker 5: enough or it just didn't happen. So the odds of
Speaker 5: meeting your twin flame is very rare. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 5: it cannot happen. It is a possibility. But hopefully it's
Speaker 5: better than bluid dodge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but hopefully it's better than eight billion to one
Speaker 2: is what you're telling.
Speaker 6: Us, right exactly.
Speaker 7: But love is out there. Like I said, it doesn't
Speaker 7: matter what age you are. You know, love is out there.
Speaker 7: I've been doing this for over forty years now. I
Speaker 7: mean I've been a spiritual teacher, healer, mentor. I help
Speaker 7: people with their love.
Speaker 5: Their relationships, finding that love, connecting their love. That soulmate
Speaker 5: might even be your next door neighbor.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 5: So you've got to really open yourself because ninety nine
Speaker 5: point nine percent of the problem is us. We are
Speaker 5: the problem because we block ourselfs intuitively, because a lot
Speaker 5: of people talk too much about their self and they
Speaker 5: say how their ex wasman x relationships, you know, was horrible,
Speaker 5: and how it just didn't work out. That's usually when
Speaker 5: I say it's the red flag. That's normally while I
Speaker 5: say run, run, run, will you still have your head
Speaker 5: attached to your body because you don't want to be
Speaker 5: with somebody that all they do is talk about them?
Speaker 5: Then then, and I want and I need, and I
Speaker 5: want and I need. So that's where I like to say,
Speaker 5: I'm a weed whacker, and I pull those weeds out
Speaker 5: of them and give them what I call a Deborah
Speaker 5: Graham anima, kind of like a reality check to make
Speaker 5: them know that, hey, not everybody died and made you
Speaker 5: king or queen. You have to come down to reality
Speaker 5: because we're all going through a temporary human experience.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this then, without getting
Speaker 2: political at all. Okay, how else do you think it
Speaker 2: would be for Donald Trump to find a soul mat
Speaker 2: because he does tend to talk a lot about himself.
Speaker 5: Well, of course, you know he's he could be very
Speaker 5: narcissist at times, and that's what makes him a strong leader.
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, so, but not necessarily a soulmate is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 5: I think he came as close as he can to
Speaker 5: a soulmate because of that woman, God bless her. So menanious,
Speaker 5: she's still there. I guess she's there for the long duration.
Speaker 5: So that's about good as it gets.
Speaker 2: Baby, Okay, give us a couple of more secrets. I
Speaker 2: think that these secrets are great. Give us a couple
Speaker 2: more secrets, And.
Speaker 4: The biggest one is six.
Speaker 7: When to say goodbye from an energy sucker, meaning that
Speaker 7: you've been in this marriage, you've been in this relationship forever,
Speaker 7: let's say thirty years, and you're trying to make this
Speaker 7: relationship work. And you're given and you're given, and you're
Speaker 7: given ninety percent.
Speaker 5: And they're giving you ten percent back. That's when I
Speaker 5: say run, because you can't give somebody what they want.
Speaker 5: If you can't be the way you want to be
Speaker 5: and they accept you for who you are and who
Speaker 5: you're not, that's somebody who's selfish, not selfless. And you
Speaker 5: want to be ready to heal eternally, mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Speaker 5: But always have direct eye contact when you're on a
Speaker 5: day in these apps, go out, enjoy, go out and
Speaker 5: met people, have fun. You know, the best place to
Speaker 5: meet people is through other people you know and just
Speaker 5: showing up. That's the kind of thing that I tell
Speaker 5: all my clients is dress ups, show up again, whether
Speaker 5: they're calling me in person, or whether they're calling into
Speaker 5: the psychic connection with Debragraham. I'm able to help you learn,
Speaker 5: you teach, you help you grow, whether you're doing a
Speaker 5: one on one reading or whether you want to call
Speaker 5: in and get that free five minute live reading.
Speaker 6: However it works.
Speaker 2: You sound like a fascinating person. You are full of
Speaker 2: self confidence. You obviously love what you do, which makes
Speaker 2: you a very a great, a great guest for my show.
Speaker 3: And I think you've provided well.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. And the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 5: I've been with the same man for over thirty years.
Speaker 5: We've got three kids, four grandchildren, and you know, love
Speaker 5: is alive.
Speaker 7: You just got to keep the fire burning inside and
Speaker 7: out and also keep that energy.
Speaker 5: Moving into bed at night too, if you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 3: I think I do know what you mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you got to give a little to get
Speaker 5: a little, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: But if anybody wants to book their own one on
Speaker 7: one psychic reader, yeah, I want to say.
Speaker 2: I got a minute left here, So let's talk about
Speaker 2: the book. First of all, that give us the proper
Speaker 2: name of the book.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, Debrah Graham Psychic's Guide to Attracting and
Speaker 7: Keeping your True Love is my most recentness book, Debragram
Speaker 7: Psychics Guide to Attracting and Keeping your Own True Love.
Speaker 7: And it's basic, step by step instructions, things that we
Speaker 7: already know. But it's kind of like going back to
Speaker 7: leave it to beaver days because if you sit there
Speaker 7: and think about it, the relationships that really worked out
Speaker 7: were the.
Speaker 5: Fifty years ago relationships.
Speaker 7: Those people stuck together, stay together and love each other
Speaker 7: because sometimes you want more and sometimes you end up
Speaker 7: with a bag.
Speaker 1: Of you know what.
Speaker 2: And if folks want to get in touch with you
Speaker 2: to get a reading, how do they reach out?
Speaker 7: Yep, they could go to Psychic Debra Graham dot com,
Speaker 7: that Psychic deebragram dot com.
Speaker 5: They could book their own one on one reading, or
Speaker 5: if they want to get that free five minute live
Speaker 5: reading on our podcast, to Psychic Connection with Debra Graham.
Speaker 6: Whatever works for.
Speaker 2: Them sounds great. Deborah, You've been a great guest. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 5: You're amazing and you keep that love alive. And I'm
Speaker 5: going to be sending you some good energy man and
Speaker 5: drink that Java because that'll keep you going, honey, because
Speaker 5: you're on fire.
Speaker 3: Well check me out around eleven thirty. I'm still I
Speaker 3: still go.
Speaker 2: I do four hours and I'm as upbeat it at
Speaker 2: eleven thirty as I try to be at eight oh five.
Speaker 3: And that's what. And I've been doing this for a
Speaker 3: while there.
Speaker 2: I was in TV for thirty one years as an
Speaker 2: audio reporter here in Boston with the now CBS affiliate.
Speaker 3: And I mean, you're teen doing this. So I've been
Speaker 3: doing this for a while.
Speaker 5: Oh God bless you. And hey for your guests to
Speaker 5: hurt me, they could get fifty percent off. Just tell
Speaker 5: them that I was on your show and I'm going
Speaker 5: to give them a Valentine's Day reading fifty percent off
Speaker 5: for their guests.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking, Now, we are talking. Now, that's great
Speaker 2: for night side guests. Okay, folks, I will have you
Speaker 2: on some night and just take some phone calls maybe
Speaker 2: from Oh.
Speaker 5: I would love to do that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Large, we got we got a sense of of of
Speaker 2: what you're able to do tonight. And you have the
Speaker 2: thing that you have. You have the passion. Anyone that
Speaker 2: has passion for what they do, I don't care what
Speaker 2: they do. If you're a glass blower and you have
Speaker 2: passion for it. It's interesting, it's fascinating, and you have
Speaker 2: the passion for it. I think I have the passion
Speaker 2: for what I do and I know that's why you're successful.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Deborah, appreciated, absolutely.
Speaker 5: God bless you. God be with you. You let me
Speaker 5: know when and where and I'll show up and be there.
Speaker 5: Have a great one and a happy ballace I say
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 3: Happy to you.
Speaker 2: As well to you and yours. Thanks Deborah. All right,
Speaker 2: we get back. We're going to talk about getting rid
Speaker 2: of some stress. And this is going to be easy.
Speaker 2: The guest's name is Lee Holding, okay, and we're going
Speaker 2: to learn about a very simple way to get rid
Speaker 2: of some stress. And believe me, I deal with stress
Speaker 2: all day long. It's called Chi Gong. Wait you and
Speaker 2: you'll be able to get in a comfortable chair and
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you some exercises to do. This is
Speaker 2: gonna be great. Coming up right after the newscast at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. My name is Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: This is Nightside. You're listening to WZ Boston's News radio
Speaker 2: ten thirty on your AM dial. Don't touch that dial.
Speaker 6: It's night Side with Boston's News radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we all deal with stress release, really with stress,
Speaker 2: I should say, and we need some stress release in
Speaker 2: this fast paced world. And we got it for you tonight.
Speaker 2: Lee Holden is my guest, a world renowned Chi gong expert.
Speaker 2: I actually watched a piece you did on one of
Speaker 2: the network newscasts, so I have a really good sense
Speaker 2: and I've tried a few of the very simple moves
Speaker 2: that you suggest. First of all, tell us that I
Speaker 2: assume that gi gong is a is a Chinese form
Speaker 2: of stress release by virtue of the name.
Speaker 6: You got that right, Hey, thank you so much. Good
Speaker 6: to be here. Yeah, it is from ancient China. You see,
Speaker 6: men and women used to watch the movements of nature
Speaker 6: and then mirror the movements of nature to get the
Speaker 6: maximum benefit of this practice. And you know, in modern life,
Speaker 6: I think of chigong as a less stress and a
Speaker 6: more energy type of practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in I think I've seen in Austria
Speaker 2: a couple of years more than a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago actually, and I think it was Austria on a trip,
Speaker 2: and I noticed a bunch of older and I'm older Chinese.
Speaker 2: They weren't Chinese Americans, and they were. They were Chinese
Speaker 2: people living in Austria, and they were up doing some
Speaker 2: of the movements and I just kind of joined in
Speaker 2: and they kind of got a kick out of seeing me.
Speaker 3: I got a kick out of seeing them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's describe a couple of the very simple moves.
Speaker 2: Even though we're on radio, you could describe them and
Speaker 2: people can sit where they are right now and they
Speaker 2: can replicate the move and get a sense of the
Speaker 2: the stress relief that you can provide.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean one very simple exercise. It's called spinal
Speaker 6: cord breathing. And I think lots of people, lots of
Speaker 6: people have too much tension in their backs. And when
Speaker 6: we sit too long. What we're gonna say about the chi,
Speaker 6: remember chi means energy, is the chi can get stagnant.
Speaker 1: And there's a.
Speaker 6: Thing in she going flowing water doesn't get stagnant, and
Speaker 6: the hinges of an active door don't get rusty. I
Speaker 6: get you, don't you hate that? Yeah? I hate want
Speaker 6: stagnant che So.
Speaker 3: What I'm gonna do. We're gonna stand up right standing up.
Speaker 6: You can stand up or stay seated, and we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna move it. I'm gonna sit down there. What are
Speaker 3: we doing.
Speaker 6: Okay, so we're gonna breathe deep. Yeah, we're gonna breathe deep.
Speaker 6: And what you want to do is breathe, you know,
Speaker 6: three four seconds on the inhale, your hands are by
Speaker 6: your shoulders. You're gonna inhale and look up, and then
Speaker 6: when you exhale, your chin goes down towards your chin,
Speaker 6: your elbows come towards each other, and you round the
Speaker 6: back and then inhale, look up and exhale and around,
Speaker 6: and you're moving your spinal joints in both directions reflexion
Speaker 6: and extension. It's like a free chiropractic adjustment.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, I'm doing it right here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like hyrod, but like this.
Speaker 6: This is very simple. Yeah, exhale, you round and relax.
Speaker 6: Now you see the spine when it doesn't move, the
Speaker 6: stagnation really is stiffness. So if you've got stiffness, tension,
Speaker 6: that's stagnant chyle bit right. Just yeah, you hinge at
Speaker 6: your waist and then shin comes down and then you
Speaker 6: inhale and you're looking up and you feel the front
Speaker 6: part of your spine. We don't often pay attention to
Speaker 6: the front of the spine and you feel your rib
Speaker 6: cage and your sternum and then you and you exhale,
Speaker 6: so you notice that you're synchronizing the breath and the movement,
Speaker 6: which is really good for the nervous system. So in essence,
Speaker 6: you're moving from like fight or flight, or what we
Speaker 6: might call stress, into rest and digest or tranquility. And
Speaker 6: it can be done very simply just by breathing.
Speaker 3: How long you been have you been doing this? You
Speaker 3: have reached the level of a master. How long have
Speaker 3: you been doing this?
Speaker 6: I've been doing this for thirty five years.
Speaker 2: And I assume there's some books that you think people
Speaker 2: could read. I mean, obviously we did one simple exercise.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do one more in a minute, But how
Speaker 2: can people either get in touch with you or get
Speaker 2: something that they can hold in their hands to.
Speaker 3: Read and look at.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, I applied all these ancient principles to
Speaker 6: modern life in this book.
Speaker 1: And the book is.
Speaker 6: Called Ready, Set Slow, So it's all about slowing down
Speaker 6: into grading these principles into things that we're doing all
Speaker 6: the time, whether it's eating, whether it's movement or breathing.
Speaker 6: As soon as you slow down, you're going to get
Speaker 6: some tremendous health benefits. And for example eating, if you
Speaker 6: eat slower, you're going to metabolize your food better, so
Speaker 6: that food's going to turn into energy and you're going
Speaker 6: to not eat as much. So it's great for weight loss,
Speaker 6: and you enjoy your food more because you're chewing it longer.
Speaker 6: So if we take the concept of slowing down, because
Speaker 6: chigong like taichi are these slow, graceful movements that you
Speaker 6: saw doing in the people doing in the park, and
Speaker 6: you apply it to other aspects in life, and you're
Speaker 6: going to be more productive, You're going to be calmer,
Speaker 6: you're going to be clearer, more focused. So it is beautiful.
Speaker 2: So the book is ready set slow I assume available Amazon,
Speaker 2: maybe bookstores or certainly Amazon. Your name is h O.
Speaker 2: L D E N. Like the famous movie actor from
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties, William Holden. Or there's a town r
Speaker 2: you're in Massachusetts called Holden, Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Lee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: I've been there. I think I think I drove by.
Speaker 3: Did you really?
Speaker 6: I was like, wait, my town's right here.
Speaker 2: Named after you didn't even know it. But this is
Speaker 2: so important, It is so important. I mean every day
Speaker 2: we're all doing so many crazy things, you know, the
Speaker 2: stuff gets it. I had a flat tire yesterday. It
Speaker 2: ruined like two days. I was able to get it
Speaker 2: fixed pretty easily. A good guy who I was able
Speaker 2: to get the car too. They put the donor on
Speaker 2: the But still the whole day it's like stressful.
Speaker 6: And the stress that those things kill us, you know,
Speaker 6: when we're stressed out like that, even whatever's happening in life,
Speaker 6: if you can, like for example, when you're you get
Speaker 6: a flat tire, the unexpected happens, like you said, it
Speaker 6: can ruin your whole day. If you low down your breathing,
Speaker 6: you can still move through life's challenges with a little
Speaker 6: more equanimity. And it's sort of through adversity that we
Speaker 6: become stronger and more balanced, and we really challenge ourselves
Speaker 6: to rise to an occasion, whether it's parenting a flat tire,
Speaker 6: sitting in traffic when we're late, even though we're in
Speaker 6: a hurry, we can still keep that calmness within ourselves.
Speaker 6: And that's a little bit more of the advanced techniques
Speaker 6: in the book as well. In the book, we do
Speaker 6: a whole slow communication even connection with our romantic partners,
Speaker 6: like a slow intimacy to have these better experiences in
Speaker 6: life and more deep, meaningful moments.
Speaker 3: Lee, this has been great.
Speaker 2: Thanks for working through at least one of the one
Speaker 2: of the exercises, and hopefully a lot of people are
Speaker 2: going to buy the book and get the book. And
Speaker 2: it's so sort of thing that it's a manual, is
Speaker 2: what it is, and it really does exceed very well
Speaker 2: to have you back. Thank you so much. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: watching you. People can find you on some of the
Speaker 2: network TV programs as well, so thanks so much.
Speaker 3: WBZ.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of listeners around the country, so
Speaker 2: don't be surprised you hear from some folks.
Speaker 6: Okay, ah, I can't wait. Thank you so much for
Speaker 6: having me my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed it very much, Lee holding of the practice of
Speaker 2: chigong and again his book Ready Set Slow, not ready
Speaker 2: set go, Ready Set Slow. When we get back, we're
Speaker 2: to talk about something a little different, the future of robotics.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on night Side right after the break.
Speaker 6: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 6: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2: We are going to talk with eled inbar about the
Speaker 2: future of robotics.
Speaker 3: Eled, welcome to night Side.
Speaker 1: How are you tonight, I'm and good, Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about robotics.
Speaker 2: Robotics had been around now for years, correct, I mean
Speaker 2: this is we think of it as something new, but
Speaker 2: it's it's really been around for what thirty forty fifty years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and definitely when it comes to you know,
Speaker 1: production lines and these kind of things. Robots are not
Speaker 1: new at all, however, and as the being however, in
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, you know, they took off.
Speaker 1: They took off like you know, never before. We see
Speaker 1: them in restaurants, in hotels, we see them in their warehouses,
Speaker 1: in the movie theaters, in airports.
Speaker 6: So they are capable, more capable than ever.
Speaker 1: And this is honestly just the beginning.
Speaker 2: Well that's the point. It's almost like watching a plane
Speaker 2: take off. You know, it's running down the runway and
Speaker 2: it seems like it's never going to lift off, but
Speaker 2: once it lifts off, within a matter of seconds, it's
Speaker 2: half a mile out of the air and the next
Speaker 2: thing is in the clouds and it's gone. And I
Speaker 2: feel like that's what's going on with robotics and of
Speaker 2: course with AI coming along at wasps warp speed.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Does AI and robotics now intersect and each sort of
Speaker 2: works off each other or do you see them as
Speaker 2: two totally separate developments.
Speaker 1: No, they are highly integrated AI, you know, by itself
Speaker 1: without the ability to manipulate you know, the the real
Speaker 1: word is limited to you know, stuff like JGPT and
Speaker 1: these kind of things that you know, give us text
Speaker 1: and you know we may read.
Speaker 2: It or not.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: And robots without AI are not smart. They cannot avoid obstacles,
Speaker 1: they cannot navigate around you know, all kinds of you know,
Speaker 1: area that they cannot reach. They cannot understand you know context.
Speaker 1: You know, when we ask you know, a robot to
Speaker 1: put the let's say, you know, in the near future,
Speaker 1: right roady from the jetsons, I put the you know,
Speaker 1: dishes in the dish, pocher, But which niches? How do
Speaker 1: you know to put them?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: They correctly out and lost? This all needs intelligence, So
Speaker 1: they go hand in hand, not you know, separate the goal.
Speaker 2: Okay, so then let me get to when we get
Speaker 2: to the point, let us say that I'm just using
Speaker 2: as an example where we're saying to the robot, okay,
Speaker 2: can you take the dishes off the table and put
Speaker 2: them in the washing machine? Are we at that point
Speaker 2: sort of surrendering responsibilities that I feel we should have.
Speaker 2: Meaning I love the idea of not having to bust
Speaker 2: the table or take the clear the dishes off the table,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think that that's kind
Speaker 2: of been part of my life for a lot forever,
Speaker 2: and I don't really mind doing it. I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: no one's going to force me to buy a robot
Speaker 2: to take the dishes off my dinner table, but there's
Speaker 2: just something about it that hits me the wrong way.
Speaker 2: I don't mind thinking about some robot on an assembly line,
Speaker 2: you know, producing an autumnal bill, and maybe the automobile
Speaker 2: will be a little bit less expensive to buy, and
Speaker 2: hopefully the auto worker is still somehow employed.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this yang and a yang. If
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying is robots are going to take.
Speaker 2: Jobs or are they going to create more jobs? Tell us
Speaker 2: what you think the future is going to hold in
Speaker 2: that regard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you touched on you know, several points, and
Speaker 1: you know, many people, me including myself. I mean, no
Speaker 1: including myself. I mean, we you know, always think about
Speaker 1: that and you know, what do I want to do
Speaker 1: or you know, what is the meaning of you know,
Speaker 1: my life is robots can do everything for me, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and and that's that's a deep question and
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. So you know, think about
Speaker 1: you know, Rosin from the Jetsones, you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you know that the TV show from Sixtyes, so
Speaker 1: remember the.
Speaker 2: Jets, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So you know, my my you know vision is that
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to actually see that coming really
Speaker 1: really quickly. This type of roses super capable, you know,
Speaker 1: finding integrated with the family life, you know, complete family
Speaker 1: member in a way. And you know you said.
Speaker 3: Coming quickly, what are you talking about in terms of quickly?
Speaker 3: Five years? Twenty five years?
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. When I said, when you said
Speaker 1: the right the airplane is taking off and everything, I
Speaker 1: believe that we're able to see you know, within the
Speaker 1: you know, two to three years. And I was I
Speaker 1: was under the impression that we are at least a decade,
Speaker 1: if not two decades out from from getting there until
Speaker 1: very recently, but you know, looking at the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the pace of the change in AI and the ability
Speaker 1: of you know, all kinds of you know, larger niche
Speaker 1: models and so on to actually comprehend very complex environments,
Speaker 1: very complex situation. I believe that, you know, marrying that
Speaker 1: with the real robots, the you know, full humanoid robot,
Speaker 1: It's going to happen very very quickly. We are doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm working in this film for seventeen years, you know,
Speaker 1: robot to right passions, since I was a child. But
Speaker 1: I started a robot club around seventeen years ago, in
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and I've seen that you know airplane,
Speaker 1: you know, you know takeoff it was like really slow
Speaker 1: all these years, and you know it's just like you
Speaker 1: know a little bit accelerating but still not you know,
Speaker 1: off the ground. And in the past two years it
Speaker 1: just went vertical, like totally vertical. And and this is
Speaker 1: you know, I can tell you I'm sitting on the
Speaker 1: kind of like on the first row of that of
Speaker 1: that show. And I didn't believe that we'll be able
Speaker 1: to get to that level of intelligence so fast, and
Speaker 1: this is this is what we see. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're using chechiptia, but I'm sure many of you
Speaker 1: know the listen are using that or any other you know,
Speaker 1: Google Gemini and any other.
Speaker 3: Ask you this. Okay, let me put it in the
Speaker 3: in the context of sports. Okay.
Speaker 2: The thing that's great about sports is some you a
Speaker 2: football fan by.
Speaker 1: Any chance or now I know, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: Well what I say, there's two seconds left and the
Speaker 2: kicker is trying to kick a field goal to win
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: Well, that's part of the sport.
Speaker 2: Because the guys, some guys you know, get the ball,
Speaker 2: can't kick it through the upright, some people miss it.
Speaker 2: Are we going to get to the point where teams
Speaker 2: will have robots as kickers? I mean, that's you know,
Speaker 2: I mean I hope there's going to be some areas
Speaker 2: where robots will not be available.
Speaker 6: So there is yes and no.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, that's so. There is a global competition called
Speaker 1: a Robot Cup, not like cop they're the you know
Speaker 1: the movie right there, you know, like a Ward Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So they started again around fifteen years ago
Speaker 1: with human das playing soccer, and the goal was by
Speaker 1: twenty fifty, okay, to have a team of human or
Speaker 1: robots that can beat the world champion team at that year. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this this was rewritten okay, and today the goal is
Speaker 1: by twenty thirty, which is in five years.
Speaker 2: Well, you have people who robots, robots who played chess
Speaker 2: champions and all of that. Look, we're running out of the bend.
Speaker 2: But I'm fascinated by this. You've written a book called
Speaker 2: A Robotics Future. Where can people find that?
Speaker 1: So they can find it on Amazon? The start for
Speaker 1: our robotics future. And this is a book that I
Speaker 1: wrote in order to help people, you know, understand what's coming.
Speaker 1: Publish robots are working. If you're a business owner and
Speaker 1: you want to integrate that in your hotel or restaurant,
Speaker 1: or assist a living facility or you know, a movie
Speaker 1: theater or whatnot, you know what to consider, you know
Speaker 1: which what is the right thing for you? Right? I
Speaker 1: basically put my entire seven years of experience into this
Speaker 1: and trying to educate the you know, the people in
Speaker 1: what's coming and what's available for them.
Speaker 2: A Robotics Future by elo inba Eli Eliad. I really
Speaker 2: appreciated your time tonight. I learned a lot from this
Speaker 2: conversation and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Good night, good Night.
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