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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, Dan Ray is here along with Rob Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert is back at the Broadcast Central headquarters. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty impressive, pretty impressive title there, Rob Broadcast Central Headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm simply broadcasting from somewhere remotely. But Rob will take

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<v Speaker 2>care of you with phone calls. Beginning after nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>first hour tonight, we will talk with four very special guests,

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about all sorts of things that maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>are unaware of. Going to talk about Valentine's Day, going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about stress relief robotics, going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>February is Black History Month. In just a couple of seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you that at nine o'clock tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>we will be talking with Professor John Ebel. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a research scientist at Boston College's Western Observatory who studies earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 2>We had an aftershock today, we had an earthquake on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to spend some time and if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask any questions of someone who has all

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<v Speaker 2>the answers about earthquakes, you want to be with us

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<v Speaker 2>at nine o'clock. Then later on tonight, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a deep dive into the RFK Junior battle royale

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<v Speaker 2>at the US Senate today the committee hearings, This was

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<v Speaker 2>the US Senate Committee in Finance that it was a

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<v Speaker 2>it was a brawl. A lot of the Democrats don't

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<v Speaker 2>like RFK Junior. Well, let me tell you, Noah does

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<v Speaker 2>his cousin Caroline Kennedy. So we'll get to all of

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<v Speaker 2>that later on tonight, but we're going to start it

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<v Speaker 2>off with our first guest here. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Dan Ray. I am the host of

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Rob is the producer. As I mentioned, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Marita aka Lightning is the producer. During the day, we

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<v Speaker 2>are delighted to welcome back another interview with a Freedom

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<v Speaker 2>Trail player. Everyone knows the Freedom Trail in Boston and

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<v Speaker 2>the Freedom Trail Foundation and begin on February first, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the beginning of Black History Month. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom Trail players, who do not like to give their

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<v Speaker 2>real names, which is perfectly fine, in the role of

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<v Speaker 2>Phyllis Wheatley, is going to tell us about the African

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<v Speaker 2>American Patriots Tours that will begin this Saturday. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>Phyllis wheatly. Welcome to Night's Side.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm well, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome. You're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us about the This is a special tour

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<v Speaker 2>that is conducted during the month, the entire month of February.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it available most every day in February?

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<v Speaker 4>It's available every weekend throughout the month of February. But

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<v Speaker 4>we always offer it as a private tour throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's fair enough. Okay, so Saturdays and Sundays. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to all of the logistics in a moment. But

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<v Speaker 2>tell us a little bit about the Obviously, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it celebrates the contributions that African Americans made, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>around the time leading up to and during the American Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us what people would expect to see and what

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<v Speaker 2>they would expect to hear during a tour.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, well, I get into my personal history as Philly

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<v Speaker 4>sweet Lee. I am the first African American and third

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<v Speaker 4>American woman to ever publish a book of poetry. I

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<v Speaker 4>get into a lot of more esoteric Boston history.

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<v Speaker 5>We get into.

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<v Speaker 4>What's called Negro election Day, which is kind of more

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<v Speaker 4>interesting aspect about Boking Commons history. And of course we

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<v Speaker 4>get into American heroes like Edward Brooks and Elizabeth Mumbtt

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<v Speaker 4>Freeman and Crook Walker and other revolutionaries that people might

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<v Speaker 4>not have heard about that we love to educate people.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard about Edward Brooks. I certainly knew I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Senator Edbrooke, So tell me about Edward brook Rook.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I said, Edward brook Brook.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I don't know if it was if there

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<v Speaker 2>was a person that I had.

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<v Speaker 4>Missed as absolutely fabulous senator from Massachusetts, and he has

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of really fun stories about his time in

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate that we share on the tour, and that.

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<v Speaker 3>He fought bravely in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely it was.

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<v Speaker 2>An attorney general here and was elected to the US

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<v Speaker 2>Senate in nineteen sixty six and served two terms. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really considered him a great friend. At the time

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<v Speaker 2>I covered him as a reporter, but he his time

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate extended to nineteen seventy eight. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk on the tour. Normally, when we think of the

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom Trail, we're going from place to place to place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I know February's winter time. How long is this tour?

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<v Speaker 2>What can people look forward to and what caution would

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we encourage people to take out the hot hands.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in fact a New England winter, so it

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<v Speaker 4>could be fifty, it could be twenty. I cannot tell

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<v Speaker 4>you which. But get into we get into a revolutionary period.

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely talk about good old Christmas giving up his

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<v Speaker 4>life for this country, and we get in yep, and

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<v Speaker 4>we get into people like Koke Walker and Elizabeth Woombtt

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<v Speaker 4>Freeman who fought here in Massachusetts to end slavery here

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<v Speaker 4>in Massachusetts and really fought for rights for all people

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<v Speaker 4>and really were moved by the Revolution to do these

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful things for everyone, and a lot of times their

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<v Speaker 4>stories don't get told. And also we tell fun stories

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<v Speaker 4>about how Paul Revere is linked to a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>anti slavery movements and how he has a secret link

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<v Speaker 4>to enslavement in Massachusetts during his midnight ride. But you

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<v Speaker 4>got to take the tour to find that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course Massachusetts has a long in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the seventeen eighteenth century and even before that, a long

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<v Speaker 2>abolitionist history of which the stage.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, we get into Governor Andrew, we get into Shaw,

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<v Speaker 4>we get into the fabulous fifty fourth and the movie Glory.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let me tell you, I'm very familiar with the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty fourth. I grew up in Reidville. Camp Meggs is

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<v Speaker 2>where the fifty fourth trained the Black Soldiers under the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership of Colonel Robert Gouldshaw. And the opening I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the last time you watched the movie Glory, but

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<v Speaker 2>that first scene it opens with the hoof prints courses

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<v Speaker 2>and it says Camp Meiggs me ei Gs, Revale, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to know that as a little boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I played probably a million baseball, football, basketball, and hockey

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<v Speaker 2>games year round on Camp Meigs. We lived on the

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<v Speaker 2>stret Yeah, oh yeah, I knew.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the wonderful thing about Boston is that we were

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<v Speaker 4>linked from the past today to our own personal history.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just such a beautiful, full circle moment that

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<v Speaker 4>I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you this, Phyllis, and this is the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>When we played on that little league field back in

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineteen sixties, okay, late fifties, early sixties, they

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<v Speaker 2>had these huge Rocks in center field. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>convinced that the spirits of the men who were training

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<v Speaker 2>on this field one hundred years earlier, because they were

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<v Speaker 2>training in the early eighteen sixties to believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting watching us play baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>I convinced of that, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly a nineteenth century sports so it would have been

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<v Speaker 4>a game after their own hearts, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, Phyllis, I really enjoyed chatting with you. So

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<v Speaker 2>how can folks get in touch? Give us the best

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<v Speaker 2>website so folks can take the tour and they can

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<v Speaker 2>meet Phyllis Wheatley in person.

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<v Speaker 3>And in character.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh vfreedomcrail dot org. Tickets are available and re Saturday

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<v Speaker 4>and sale throughout the month of February at ten forty

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<v Speaker 4>five am, and also you can buy tickets at the

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds great, sounds great. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for keeping all of these the stories of these

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<v Speaker 2>American heroes alive.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, fellos, Oh, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a great evening.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you as well. When we get back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about something else that deals with the

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<v Speaker 2>month of February, and of course that is Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk with a national psychic who

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<v Speaker 2>will share with you six secrets to finding true love.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Deborah Graham. She star of TLC's The

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<v Speaker 2>Psychic Matchmaker and host of the podcast The Psychic Connection.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that coming up and a whole lot more

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<v Speaker 2>tonight on Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. We've just begun.

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<v Speaker 2>by Rob Brooks probably about by thirty three o'clock on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday morning, back on Nightside right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you say February, everybody thinks of Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I think of groundhog Day. But maybe I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little different. Anyway, Valentine's Day is more important than groundhog Day.

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<v Speaker 2>The only more important day is the opening of spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>But with it with us right now is Deborah Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the star of TLC's The Psychic Matchmaker, host of

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast The Psychic Connection, and she has expert advice

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<v Speaker 2>for love, career, family, and more. But we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about your love life. Welcome Debah, how are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to Welcome to night Side.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, thank you so much for having me. The

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<v Speaker 7>pleasure is all mine to be here. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm doing okay. I think I'm doing okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's early, so lakes could go off the crack anything. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I go to midnight eight to midnight, So we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking to have extra cup of java.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh let me tell you, no, I'm always I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>ready for action. Look, you have six secrets to finding

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<v Speaker 2>true love? There are some people in my audience who

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<v Speaker 2>are still true who's still looking for true love? Probably

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<v Speaker 2>most people in my audience. So share us some of

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<v Speaker 2>those secrets. What should we be looking for those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are happily married, that's a different situation. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the single folks out there who look at

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day with a sense of maybe apprehension and anticipation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're right.

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<v Speaker 5>About that, But also the people who are married, they

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<v Speaker 5>also need a.

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<v Speaker 6>Little extra boost.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you got to spice up.

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<v Speaker 6>That love life.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to always keep that energy going. As I

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<v Speaker 5>like to say, wills in motion. So the sick secrets

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<v Speaker 5>of love. People call me all the time, whether they're

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<v Speaker 5>looking for love, a relationship, a partnership, whether they're contacting

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<v Speaker 5>me on the psychic connection with Debrah Graham or doing

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<v Speaker 5>a one on one reading. However it may be the

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<v Speaker 5>first rule of thumb is to trust in your inner self.

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<v Speaker 5>and don't let those first impressions cloud you down. Because

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<v Speaker 5>as you were feeling the anxiety. Three follow my rule

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<v Speaker 7>Go out on three dates within three weeks, and stay monogamous.

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<v Speaker 5>That means don't put the lizard into lily pad for

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we call deep and large. And if you

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<v Speaker 7>And also very important.

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<v Speaker 5>Rule of four is to find that twin flame soul

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<v Speaker 5>made absolutely without a benefit of a doubt. You have

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<v Speaker 5>or ninety nine. Anybody can find love at any age.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that age is just a number.

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<v Speaker 2>When I last checked, there were eight billion people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. So what are the odds of finding that

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<v Speaker 3>Me?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 7>I have to say the truth because finding a soulmate

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<v Speaker 7>is probably easier to win the lottery than to find

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<v Speaker 7>lover a soulmate. That's probably one of the hardest things.

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<v Speaker 7>But there is a partner out there for every single person.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does it mean that I'm being honest when

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<v Speaker 2>I say this, because I've thought about this and people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>your soulmate's out there, you're a doppelganger or whatever. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume there has to be a few. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's one on some continent that you'll never visit, therefore

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<v Speaker 2>you'll never meet. But you got to at least hope

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<v Speaker 2>you have one soulmate within the metro area.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get my drift, Well, you have many soulmates.

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<v Speaker 7>You have soulmates that you could connect with somebody just

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<v Speaker 7>to have kids with.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you were not meant to be together, but you

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<v Speaker 5>were meant to bring the kids in. Then you have

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<v Speaker 5>a soulmate that could even be a friend, as I

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<v Speaker 5>call it a for now. And and you have what

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<v Speaker 5>you call the twin flame soulmates. That's when your two

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<v Speaker 5>physical bodies but one connected soul. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that ninety percent of the world never ever gets to

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<v Speaker 5>meet their twin flame soulmate because either they weren't patient

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<v Speaker 5>enough or it just didn't happen. So the odds of

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<v Speaker 5>meeting your twin flame is very rare. Doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 5>it cannot happen. It is a possibility. But hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but hopefully it's better than eight billion to one

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're telling.

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<v Speaker 6>Us, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>But love is out there. Like I said, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>matter what age you are. You know, love is out there.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been doing this for over forty years now. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean I've been a spiritual teacher, healer, mentor. I help

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<v Speaker 7>people with their love.

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<v Speaker 5>Their relationships, finding that love, connecting their love. That soulmate

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<v Speaker 5>might even be your next door neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell.

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<v Speaker 5>So you've got to really open yourself because ninety nine

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<v Speaker 5>point nine percent of the problem is us. We are

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<v Speaker 5>the problem because we block ourselfs intuitively, because a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people talk too much about their self and they

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<v Speaker 5>say how their ex wasman x relationships, you know, was horrible,

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<v Speaker 5>and how it just didn't work out. That's usually when

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<v Speaker 5>I say it's the red flag. That's normally while I

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<v Speaker 5>say run, run, run, will you still have your head

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<v Speaker 5>attached to your body because you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 5>with somebody that all they do is talk about them?

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<v Speaker 5>Then then, and I want and I need, and I

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<v Speaker 5>want and I need. So that's where I like to say,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a weed whacker, and I pull those weeds out

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<v Speaker 5>of them and give them what I call a Deborah

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<v Speaker 5>them know that, hey, not everybody died and made you

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<v Speaker 5>king or queen. You have to come down to reality

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<v Speaker 5>because we're all going through a temporary human experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let me ask you this then, without getting

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<v Speaker 2>political at all. Okay, how else do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>would be for Donald Trump to find a soul mat

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<v Speaker 2>because he does tend to talk a lot about himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, of course, you know he's he could be very

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<v Speaker 5>narcissist at times, and that's what makes him a strong leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So okay, so, but not necessarily a soulmate is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he came as close as he can to

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<v Speaker 5>a soulmate because of that woman, God bless her. So menanious,

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<v Speaker 5>she's still there. I guess she's there for the long duration.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's about good as it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, Okay, give us a couple of more secrets. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that these secrets are great. Give us a couple

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest one is six.

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<v Speaker 7>When to say goodbye from an energy sucker, meaning that

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<v Speaker 7>you've been in this marriage, you've been in this relationship forever,

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<v Speaker 7>let's say thirty years, and you're trying to make this

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<v Speaker 5>And they're giving you ten percent back. That's when I

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<v Speaker 5>say run, because you can't give somebody what they want.

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<v Speaker 5>If you can't be the way you want to be

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<v Speaker 5>and they accept you for who you are and who

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<v Speaker 5>you're not, that's somebody who's selfish, not selfless. And you

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<v Speaker 5>want to be ready to heal eternally, mentally, physically, and spiritually.

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<v Speaker 5>But always have direct eye contact when you're on a

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<v Speaker 5>day in these apps, go out, enjoy, go out and

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<v Speaker 5>met people, have fun. You know, the best place to

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<v Speaker 5>meet people is through other people you know and just

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<v Speaker 5>showing up. That's the kind of thing that I tell

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<v Speaker 5>all my clients is dress ups, show up again, whether

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<v Speaker 5>they're calling me in person, or whether they're calling into

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<v Speaker 5>the psychic connection with Debragraham. I'm able to help you learn,

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<v Speaker 5>you teach, you help you grow, whether you're doing a

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<v Speaker 6>However it works.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound like a fascinating person. You are full of

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<v Speaker 2>self confidence. You obviously love what you do, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>you a very a great, a great guest for my show.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you've provided well.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that. And the proof is in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been with the same man for over thirty years.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got three kids, four grandchildren, and you know, love

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<v Speaker 7>You just got to keep the fire burning inside and

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<v Speaker 7>out and also keep that energy.

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<v Speaker 5>Moving into bed at night too, if you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I think I do know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sometimes you got to give a little to get

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<v Speaker 5>a little, if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>But if anybody wants to book their own one on

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<v Speaker 7>one psychic reader, yeah, I want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a minute left here, So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the book. First of all, that give us the proper

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<v Speaker 2>name of the book.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, well, Debrah Graham Psychic's Guide to Attracting and

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<v Speaker 7>Keeping your True Love is my most recentness book, Debragram

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<v Speaker 7>Psychics Guide to Attracting and Keeping your Own True Love.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's basic, step by step instructions, things that we

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<v Speaker 7>already know. But it's kind of like going back to

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<v Speaker 7>leave it to beaver days because if you sit there

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<v Speaker 7>and think about it, the relationships that really worked out

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<v Speaker 7>were the.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty years ago relationships.

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<v Speaker 7>Those people stuck together, stay together and love each other

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<v Speaker 7>because sometimes you want more and sometimes you end up

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<v Speaker 1>Of you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>And if folks want to get in touch with you

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<v Speaker 2>to get a reading, how do they reach out?

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, they could go to Psychic Debra Graham dot com,

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<v Speaker 7>that Psychic deebragram dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>They could book their own one on one reading, or

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<v Speaker 5>if they want to get that free five minute live

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<v Speaker 5>reading on our podcast, to Psychic Connection with Debra Graham.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever works for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them sounds great. Deborah, You've been a great guest. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>You're amazing and you keep that love alive. And I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to be sending you some good energy man and

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<v Speaker 5>drink that Java because that'll keep you going, honey, because

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<v Speaker 5>you're on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Well check me out around eleven thirty. I'm still I

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<v Speaker 3>still go.

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<v Speaker 2>I do four hours and I'm as upbeat it at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven thirty as I try to be at eight oh five.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what. And I've been doing this for a

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<v Speaker 3>while there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in TV for thirty one years as an

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you're teen doing this. So I've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing this for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh God bless you. And hey for your guests to

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<v Speaker 5>hurt me, they could get fifty percent off. Just tell

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<v Speaker 5>them that I was on your show and I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to give them a Valentine's Day reading fifty percent off

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're talking, Now, we are talking. Now, that's great

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<v Speaker 2>for night side guests. Okay, folks, I will have you

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<v Speaker 2>on some night and just take some phone calls maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I would love to do that. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Large, we got we got a sense of of of

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<v Speaker 2>what you're able to do tonight. And you have the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you have. You have the passion. Anyone that

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<v Speaker 2>has passion for what they do, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. If you're a glass blower and you have

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<v Speaker 2>passion for it. It's interesting, it's fascinating, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>the passion for it. I think I have the passion

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<v Speaker 2>for what I do and I know that's why you're successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Deborah, appreciated, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>God bless you. God be with you. You let me

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<v Speaker 5>know when and where and I'll show up and be there.

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<v Speaker 5>Have a great one and a happy ballace I say

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<v Speaker 5>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy to you.

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<v Speaker 2>As well to you and yours. Thanks Deborah. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we get back. We're going to talk about getting rid

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<v Speaker 2>of some stress. And this is going to be easy.

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<v Speaker 2>The guest's name is Lee Holding, okay, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to learn about a very simple way to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>all day long. It's called Chi Gong. Wait you and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to get in a comfortable chair and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna give you some exercises to do. This is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be great. Coming up right after the newscast at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour. My name is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Nightside. You're listening to WZ Boston's News radio

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty on your AM dial. Don't touch that dial.

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<v Speaker 6>It's night Side with Boston's News radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we all deal with stress release, really with stress,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, and we need some stress release in

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<v Speaker 2>this fast paced world. And we got it for you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Holden is my guest, a world renowned Chi gong expert.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually watched a piece you did on one of

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<v Speaker 2>the network newscasts, so I have a really good sense

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<v Speaker 2>and I've tried a few of the very simple moves

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<v Speaker 2>that you suggest. First of all, tell us that I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that gi gong is a is a Chinese form

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<v Speaker 2>of stress release by virtue of the name.

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<v Speaker 6>You got that right, Hey, thank you so much. Good

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<v Speaker 6>to be here. Yeah, it is from ancient China. You see,

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<v Speaker 6>men and women used to watch the movements of nature

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<v Speaker 6>and then mirror the movements of nature to get the

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<v Speaker 6>maximum benefit of this practice. And you know, in modern life,

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<v Speaker 6>I think of chigong as a less stress and a

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<v Speaker 6>more energy type of practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was in I think I've seen in Austria

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years more than a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago actually, and I think it was Austria on a trip,

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<v Speaker 2>and I noticed a bunch of older and I'm older Chinese.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't Chinese Americans, and they were. They were Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>people living in Austria, and they were up doing some

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<v Speaker 2>of the movements and I just kind of joined in

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<v Speaker 2>and they kind of got a kick out of seeing me.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a kick out of seeing them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's describe a couple of the very simple moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though we're on radio, you could describe them and

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<v Speaker 2>people can sit where they are right now and they

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<v Speaker 2>can replicate the move and get a sense of the

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<v Speaker 2>the stress relief that you can provide.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely. I mean one very simple exercise. It's called spinal

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<v Speaker 6>cord breathing. And I think lots of people, lots of

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<v Speaker 6>people have too much tension in their backs. And when

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<v Speaker 6>we sit too long. What we're gonna say about the chi,

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<v Speaker 6>remember chi means energy, is the chi can get stagnant.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing in she going flowing water doesn't get stagnant, and

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<v Speaker 6>the hinges of an active door don't get rusty. I

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<v Speaker 6>get you, don't you hate that? Yeah? I hate want

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<v Speaker 6>stagnant che So.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm gonna do. We're gonna stand up right standing up.

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<v Speaker 6>You can stand up or stay seated, and we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna move it. I'm gonna sit down there. What are

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<v Speaker 3>we doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so we're gonna breathe deep. Yeah, we're gonna breathe deep.

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<v Speaker 6>And what you want to do is breathe, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>three four seconds on the inhale, your hands are by

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<v Speaker 6>your shoulders. You're gonna inhale and look up, and then

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<v Speaker 6>when you exhale, your chin goes down towards your chin,

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<v Speaker 6>your elbows come towards each other, and you round the

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<v Speaker 6>back and then inhale, look up and exhale and around,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're moving your spinal joints in both directions reflexion

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<v Speaker 6>and extension. It's like a free chiropractic adjustment.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh yeah, I'm doing it right here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like hyrod, but like this.

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<v Speaker 6>This is very simple. Yeah, exhale, you round and relax.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you see the spine when it doesn't move, the

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<v Speaker 6>stagnation really is stiffness. So if you've got stiffness, tension,

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<v Speaker 6>that's stagnant chyle bit right. Just yeah, you hinge at

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<v Speaker 6>your waist and then shin comes down and then you

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<v Speaker 6>inhale and you're looking up and you feel the front

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<v Speaker 6>part of your spine. We don't often pay attention to

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<v Speaker 6>the front of the spine and you feel your rib

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<v Speaker 6>cage and your sternum and then you and you exhale,

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<v Speaker 6>so you notice that you're synchronizing the breath and the movement,

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<v Speaker 6>which is really good for the nervous system. So in essence,

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<v Speaker 6>you're moving from like fight or flight, or what we

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<v Speaker 6>might call stress, into rest and digest or tranquility. And

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<v Speaker 6>it can be done very simply just by breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>How long you been have you been doing this? You

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<v Speaker 3>have reached the level of a master. How long have

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<v Speaker 3>you been doing this?

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<v Speaker 6>I've been doing this for thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I assume there's some books that you think people

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<v Speaker 2>could read. I mean, obviously we did one simple exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll do one more in a minute, But how

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<v Speaker 2>can people either get in touch with you or get

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<v Speaker 2>something that they can hold in their hands to.

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<v Speaker 3>Read and look at.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, you know, I applied all these ancient principles to

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<v Speaker 6>modern life in this book.

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<v Speaker 1>And the book is.

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<v Speaker 6>Called Ready, Set Slow, So it's all about slowing down

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<v Speaker 6>into grading these principles into things that we're doing all

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<v Speaker 6>the time, whether it's eating, whether it's movement or breathing.

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<v Speaker 6>As soon as you slow down, you're going to get

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<v Speaker 6>some tremendous health benefits. And for example eating, if you

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<v Speaker 6>eat slower, you're going to metabolize your food better, so

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<v Speaker 6>that food's going to turn into energy and you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to not eat as much. So it's great for weight loss,

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<v Speaker 6>and you enjoy your food more because you're chewing it longer.

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<v Speaker 6>So if we take the concept of slowing down, because

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<v Speaker 6>chigong like taichi are these slow, graceful movements that you

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<v Speaker 6>saw doing in the people doing in the park, and

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<v Speaker 6>you apply it to other aspects in life, and you're

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<v Speaker 6>going to be more productive, You're going to be calmer,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to be clearer, more focused. So it is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>So the book is ready set slow I assume available Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe bookstores or certainly Amazon. Your name is h O.

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<v Speaker 2>L D E N. Like the famous movie actor from

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen fifties, William Holden. Or there's a town r

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<v Speaker 2>you're in Massachusetts called Holden, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 6>Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been there. I think I think I drove by.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you really?

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, wait, my town's right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Named after you didn't even know it. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>so important, It is so important. I mean every day

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<v Speaker 2>we're all doing so many crazy things, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff gets it. I had a flat tire yesterday. It

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<v Speaker 2>ruined like two days. I was able to get it

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<v Speaker 2>fixed pretty easily. A good guy who I was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get the car too. They put the donor on

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<v Speaker 2>the But still the whole day it's like stressful.

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<v Speaker 6>And the stress that those things kill us, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when we're stressed out like that, even whatever's happening in life,

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<v Speaker 6>if you can, like for example, when you're you get

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<v Speaker 6>a flat tire, the unexpected happens, like you said, it

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<v Speaker 6>can ruin your whole day. If you low down your breathing,

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<v Speaker 6>you can still move through life's challenges with a little

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<v Speaker 6>more equanimity. And it's sort of through adversity that we

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<v Speaker 6>become stronger and more balanced, and we really challenge ourselves

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<v Speaker 6>to rise to an occasion, whether it's parenting a flat tire,

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<v Speaker 6>sitting in traffic when we're late, even though we're in

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<v Speaker 6>a hurry, we can still keep that calmness within ourselves.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's a little bit more of the advanced techniques

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<v Speaker 6>in the book as well. In the book, we do

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<v Speaker 6>a whole slow communication even connection with our romantic partners,

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<v Speaker 6>like a slow intimacy to have these better experiences in

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<v Speaker 6>life and more deep, meaningful moments.

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<v Speaker 3>Lee, this has been great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for working through at least one of the one

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<v Speaker 2>of the exercises, and hopefully a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to buy the book and get the book. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sort of thing that it's a manual, is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, and it really does exceed very well

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<v Speaker 2>to have you back. Thank you so much. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>watching you. People can find you on some of the

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<v Speaker 2>network TV programs as well, so thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 3>WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lot of listeners around the country, so

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<v Speaker 2>don't be surprised you hear from some folks.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, ah, I can't wait. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 6>having me my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed it very much, Lee holding of the practice of

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<v Speaker 2>chigong and again his book Ready Set Slow, not ready

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<v Speaker 2>set go, Ready Set Slow. When we get back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about something a little different, the future of robotics.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on night Side right after the break.

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<v Speaker 6>Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 6>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to talk with eled inbar about the

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<v Speaker 2>future of robotics.

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<v Speaker 3>Eled, welcome to night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you tonight, I'm and good, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about robotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Robotics had been around now for years, correct, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this is we think of it as something new, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really been around for what thirty forty fifty years?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and definitely when it comes to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>production lines and these kind of things. Robots are not

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<v Speaker 1>new at all, however, and as the being however, in

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years, you know, they took off.

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<v Speaker 1>They took off like you know, never before. We see

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<v Speaker 1>them in restaurants, in hotels, we see them in their warehouses,

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie theaters, in airports.

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<v Speaker 6>So they are capable, more capable than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is honestly just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the point. It's almost like watching a plane

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<v Speaker 2>take off. You know, it's running down the runway and

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it's never going to lift off, but

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<v Speaker 2>once it lifts off, within a matter of seconds, it's

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<v Speaker 2>half a mile out of the air and the next

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<v Speaker 2>thing is in the clouds and it's gone. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's what's going on with robotics and of

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<v Speaker 2>course with AI coming along at wasps warp speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Does AI and robotics now intersect and each sort of

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<v Speaker 2>works off each other or do you see them as

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<v Speaker 2>two totally separate developments.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they are highly integrated AI, you know, by itself

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<v Speaker 1>without the ability to manipulate you know, the the real

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<v Speaker 1>word is limited to you know, stuff like JGPT and

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of things that you know, give us text

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we may read.

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<v Speaker 2>It or not.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And robots without AI are not smart. They cannot avoid obstacles,

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<v Speaker 1>they cannot navigate around you know, all kinds of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>area that they cannot reach. They cannot understand you know context.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we ask you know, a robot to

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<v Speaker 1>put the let's say, you know, in the near future,

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<v Speaker 1>right roady from the jetsons, I put the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dishes in the dish, pocher, But which niches? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you know to put them?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 1>They correctly out and lost? This all needs intelligence, So

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<v Speaker 1>they go hand in hand, not you know, separate the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so then let me get to when we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the point, let us say that I'm just using

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<v Speaker 2>as an example where we're saying to the robot, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>can you take the dishes off the table and put

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<v Speaker 2>them in the washing machine? Are we at that point

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<v Speaker 2>sort of surrendering responsibilities that I feel we should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning I love the idea of not having to bust

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<v Speaker 2>the table or take the clear the dishes off the table,

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I think that that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been part of my life for a lot forever,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really mind doing it. I mean, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>no one's going to force me to buy a robot

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<v Speaker 2>to take the dishes off my dinner table, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>just something about it that hits me the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind thinking about some robot on an assembly line,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, producing an autumnal bill, and maybe the automobile

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<v Speaker 2>will be a little bit less expensive to buy, and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully the auto worker is still somehow employed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is this yang and a yang. If

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying is robots are going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Jobs or are they going to create more jobs? Tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what you think the future is going to hold in

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<v Speaker 2>that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, you touched on you know, several points, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, many people, me including myself. I mean, no

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<v Speaker 1>including myself. I mean, we you know, always think about

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<v Speaker 1>that and you know, what do I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, what is the meaning of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my life is robots can do everything for me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and that's that's a deep question and

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with that. So you know, think about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Rosin from the Jetsones, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you know that the TV show from Sixtyes, so

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<v Speaker 1>remember the.

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<v Speaker 2>Jets, Yes, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, my my you know vision is that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're going to actually see that coming really

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly. This type of roses super capable, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>finding integrated with the family life, you know, complete family

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<v Speaker 1>member in a way. And you know you said.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming quickly, what are you talking about in terms of quickly?

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<v Speaker 3>Five years? Twenty five years?

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. When I said, when you said

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<v Speaker 1>the right the airplane is taking off and everything, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we're able to see you know, within the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two to three years. And I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was under the impression that we are at least a decade,

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<v Speaker 1>if not two decades out from from getting there until

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<v Speaker 1>very recently, but you know, looking at the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pace of the change in AI and the ability

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, all kinds of you know, larger niche

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<v Speaker 1>models and so on to actually comprehend very complex environments,

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<v Speaker 1>very complex situation. I believe that, you know, marrying that

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<v Speaker 1>with the real robots, the you know, full humanoid robot,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to happen very very quickly. We are doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working in this film for seventeen years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>robot to right passions, since I was a child. But

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<v Speaker 1>I started a robot club around seventeen years ago, in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven, and I've seen that you know airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know takeoff it was like really slow

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<v Speaker 1>all these years, and you know it's just like you

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<v Speaker 1>know a little bit accelerating but still not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground. And in the past two years it

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<v Speaker 1>just went vertical, like totally vertical. And and this is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can tell you I'm sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like on the first row of that of

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<v Speaker 1>that show. And I didn't believe that we'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that level of intelligence so fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is what we see. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using chechiptia, but I'm sure many of you

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<v Speaker 1>know the listen are using that or any other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Gemini and any other.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask you this. Okay, let me put it in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the context of sports. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that's great about sports is some you a

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<v Speaker 2>football fan by.

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<v Speaker 1>Any chance or now I know, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what I say, there's two seconds left and the

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<v Speaker 2>kicker is trying to kick a field goal to win

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's part of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the guys, some guys you know, get the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>can't kick it through the upright, some people miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to get to the point where teams

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<v Speaker 2>will have robots as kickers? I mean, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I hope there's going to be some areas

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<v Speaker 2>where robots will not be available.

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<v Speaker 6>So there is yes and no.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, that's so. There is a global competition called

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<v Speaker 1>a Robot Cup, not like cop they're the you know

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<v Speaker 1>the movie right there, you know, like a Ward Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. So they started again around fifteen years ago

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<v Speaker 1>with human das playing soccer, and the goal was by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifty, okay, to have a team of human or

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<v Speaker 1>robots that can beat the world champion team at that year. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this this was rewritten okay, and today the goal is

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<v Speaker 1>by twenty thirty, which is in five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have people who robots, robots who played chess

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<v Speaker 2>champions and all of that. Look, we're running out of the bend.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm fascinated by this. You've written a book called

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<v Speaker 2>A Robotics Future. Where can people find that?

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<v Speaker 1>So they can find it on Amazon? The start for

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<v Speaker 1>our robotics future. And this is a book that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in order to help people, you know, understand what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Publish robots are working. If you're a business owner and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to integrate that in your hotel or restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>or assist a living facility or you know, a movie

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<v Speaker 1>theater or whatnot, you know what to consider, you know

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<v Speaker 1>which what is the right thing for you? Right? I

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<v Speaker 1>basically put my entire seven years of experience into this

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to educate the you know, the people in

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<v Speaker 1>what's coming and what's available for them.

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<v Speaker 2>A Robotics Future by elo inba Eli Eliad. I really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated your time tonight. I learned a lot from this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Good night, good Night.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to talk with doctor

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<v Speaker 2>John Ebel and he is with Boston College Western Observatory,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about earthquakes. We had one

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<v Speaker 2>this week and an aftershock today. Everything you've ever wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know about earthquakes but we're too afraid to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming back on Night's side.