WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:27.800 Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Fire Up. 2 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:29.199 Are we fired up tonight? 3 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:29.600 Guys? 4 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:31.760 No question about it? 5 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.799 Go ahead, all right, Well, you see one less than 6 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:40.840 normal Ralph would normally be on, he's having some technical issues. 7 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:47.679 So tonight it's my co host, smoking Jeremy b and 8 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:52.000 my better side of me, Scott the MotorCity. 9 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.280 Mad Mo had to be on. Let's get to the 10 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.520 comments blows. Let's get this baby rolling. Guess what it is? 11 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:59.560 Rolling? All right, Jeremy take over. 12 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.039 I'm trying to get Josh and the guys in here, 13 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:05.719 but they may already be snoozing. An end of an 14 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:07.879 era for who Tua Aquavella. 15 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.599 Yeah, that's his new name out here with these guys. 16 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.560 Max Field has a signed to a jersey I have 17 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:18.200 assigned to a helmet, and Josh has a sign Roberto 18 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:23.239 Longo jersey. Yeah, let's get I need to get the beds. 19 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.519 Yeah, that's a good piece of memorabilia for Joshua, that's 20 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:27.000 for sure. 21 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.120 I have a big he has a big weekend covering 22 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.560 University of Miami, Miami in FAU. Wasn't that last weekend? 23 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:41.040 No, that's this weekend weekend. Last weekend was USF with Miami. 24 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:47.680 Oh that's what Okay, got that and he wrote a book. 25 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.840 Josh and the Smackers just got a nice strong beer 26 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.840 and ready to roll. What's going on? Well, he's a 27 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:06.959 long is on his fourth beer already? Yeah, what's going on? Joshua? 28 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.680 Can s f T do a prayer for Jesse Stalver? 29 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:19.400 He's about to hit hit by the damned thing? 30 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:20.800 It now. 31 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.639 To what these comments? Better get read? 32 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.199 Working on it here. 33 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.000 I hope you have a flush bucket and an extra 34 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.639 extra cancels and of course some extra beers for the 35 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:41.000 storm candle candles. Okay, now now it makes sense. Somebody 36 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.360 must be getting it handed to them by Scott in 37 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:50.919 the pre processing with some nice strong beers. Smacker and 38 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:56.080 the Smackers, George, Joshua and the Smackers. Where is the 39 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.639 s f T right here? Due to hurricanes? The show 40 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:05.319 is canceled, No nor Zell and you're looking at and 41 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:12.360 that tonight we're back, We back Orlando, SFTP self blurred 42 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:17.280 and Tribune public here. Scott just roasted Ralph in the 43 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:22.080 pre pressing processing. Ralph couldn't even get the courage. Come on, No, 44 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.159 Ralph is having some major internet issues and we'll leave 45 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:25.520 it at that. 46 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.439 Yeah, well, I didn't help the situation by going off 47 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.039 a little, but it is what it is. So I 48 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:32.759 want to make sure that everybody gets to bed at 49 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.159 a decent time, because, after all, Candy and I have 50 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:37.879 a busy weekend and it begins tomorrow night the Miami 51 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:42.159 Hurricanes Virginia Tech at seven thirty Eastern time. Our coverage 52 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.199 will be ganded around three thirty four o'clock Eastern time 53 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.639 before the show. I just wrote the story Candy putting 54 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:49.680 into videos look forward and it will be up there. 55 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.360 All right, Candy, it's all yours. 56 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:56.240 So first and foremost, we shouldn't say that we hope 57 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:00.319 everybody stays safe from the storm. This This is a 58 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.280 major storm, hurricane going to be hitting. They said it 59 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:07.560 could max out. It could actually top to a Cat 60 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.319 four and that would be some pretty devastation, especially where 61 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:19.439 it's gonna hit. So everybody that's in its path, heed 62 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.920 the warnings, be careful, be safe. 63 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:24.480 Yeah. 64 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.639 Yes, one thing I forgot to mention on some of 65 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.639 my shows this week, but I will not forget tonight. 66 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.199 Rest in peace, Mercury, Morris, Katy and I had the 67 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.040 opportunity to meet you at the last Super Bowl year. 68 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:35.959 Mercury was kind of a time. 69 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.040 Had a nice photo with Mercury and here's a guy 70 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.680 that was definitely a big, key contributor to the Miami 71 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.680 Dolphins to back to back Super Bowls in the seventies. 72 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.079 So once again, rested peace, Mercy Morris. 73 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.319 Yes, yes, I remember that. 74 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.240 Well, we were at the Diplomat Hotel. 75 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.759 Now we were. 76 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.199 Yes, So you're all wondering what the title the end 77 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.399 of an era. For those of you baseball fans out there, 78 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.560 you would know what that means, because today was the 79 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:11.399 last day for Oakland to be playing in Oakland in 80 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:21.160 the Coliseum. Scott, You've been to closing of a stadium game, 81 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.279 but now this is much more than just closing of 82 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.399 a stadium. They're no longer going to be in Oakland, 83 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:33.199 all right, So all those fans I I did witness. 84 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:37.319 I saw someone posted on Facebook that they took a 85 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:40.160 sign to the stadium and it said that he was 86 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.639 there for the very first game and he was there 87 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.680 for the last game of the coliseum And I thought 88 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.199 that was pretty cool but very emotional. So tell me 89 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.639 you were at the Tigers last game, how emotional was 90 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:55.480 that for you? 91 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.399 Well, you know, it's funny, kind of interesting when you 92 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.639 think about that, particularly when the Tigers in ninety nine, 93 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.680 I covered the old I went out there and covered 94 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:07.720 the opener and then the final game of the year 95 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:08.920 as well, nothing in between. 96 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.079 So the Tiger Stadium was much different. 97 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.279 Well know about the history of co America Park was 98 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:14.720 being built at that. 99 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.079 Time, so not like they are. All they were leaving 100 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.680 was like five ten minutes away to go right down town. 101 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:21.800 But Oakland's a different animal. 102 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:26.319 I mean, you know, Larry Beal of the local guy 103 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.040 who used to be at ESPN, actually went out there 104 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.120 and hammered and had a little bit of a random 105 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.560 his own about John Fisher, and it was rightfully deserved. 106 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.160 I mean, you know, Fisher obviously wanted the politicians to 107 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.600 go ahead pay for it for him, and you had 108 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.519 the Oakland rather the Golden State Warriors owner wanted to 109 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.480 buy the team, but he refused to sell it, so 110 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.680 he already had this. He was ready to go to 111 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.639 Vegas anyway. So it's hard, you know, they were in 112 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.279 that area for what fifty seven years, that this will 113 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:59.920 be the first team that's ever been in forced particular stity. 114 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.839 So yeah, you always hate to see an end of 115 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.199 an era, but this one here was different because there 116 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:07.560 was so much hostility involved between not only the fans, 117 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.839 the ownership with the politician. So it's a No. One situation. 118 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:13.879 They're going to Sacramento. They've got a lot of work 119 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.839 to do in that ballpark, and they don't even have 120 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.079 their financing in place in Vegas yet, So it's a 121 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.920 very dysfunctional franchise. Vegas to me, the way I look 122 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.639 at it is headed towards being a four major sports 123 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.560 town area. But Josh was asking, you tell me about 124 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.639 my time in Vegas. I used to go there a 125 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.920 lot of times to see major fights and take rides 126 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.120 over to Hoover Dam and the Grand Canyon. I think 127 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:41.759 Vegas a great town. I never thought, my wow, there's 128 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.560 dreams that can ever have three or four major sports. 129 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.759 But you know what areas grow. And I don't think 130 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.600 many years ago when I lived in South Florida back 131 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.439 in the eighties, who would have thought this was a 132 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.439 four sports sound But that just goes to show you 133 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:55.319 how things really go. 134 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:57.800 It does it does? 135 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.000 It is the end of an era, and yes, Oakland 136 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:08.000 is moving to Vegas. That's where they're headed. They're following 137 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:12.800 in the footsteps of the football team, and yes, I 138 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:14.639 will have to get used to that too. 139 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:16.480 Well. 140 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.720 Joshua was asking me what fights for What was I at. 141 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.639 I was at Evander Holyfield. Mike Tyson was one. He 142 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.600 had Evander Holyfield I think took on Michael Moore and 143 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.720 Peter McNeely. It was one when Tyson knocked him out, 144 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.720 or Diddy who knows what a fan unpuncches and some 145 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.200 other guys. So I looked like four or five major fights. 146 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:40.120 And actually in that holy Field Tyson fight, I sat 147 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.320 next to the late James Earl Jones, and James Earl 148 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.279 Jones was unbelievable. We spent time talking. He was very 149 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.559 polite to me the whole time, and it was this 150 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:53.639 a great thrill, now, mind you. Okay, while I'm covering 151 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.200 that will actually sitting there as a fan with my 152 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:59.720 ex wife, Okay, I ended up buying a fight on 153 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:03.440 paper reviewing them. Tyson bit holy Field deer off and 154 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.639 then my ex wife bit my head off for it's 155 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:08.440 spending fifty bucks on it. I said, well, wait a minute, 156 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:10.440 there has been eleven rounds. I didn't expect them to 157 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.600 go This boy I think. So it is what it is. 158 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.000 But you know what, Mecos is a great time. I've 159 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:19.279 always enjoyed going there, and you know, to me, sport 160 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.120 can take away, will allow some of these people to 161 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.879 get away from the casinos that don't lose all that bad. 162 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:29.320 You know, Josh do I still cover fights, not lately, 163 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:33.600 although if an opportunity came where I could get more 164 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.279 involved with boxing again, I would. I've had a lot 165 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.799 of great pictures of a lot of fighters. When you 166 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:44.759 look at Chuck Webner, we also have Muhammad, Ali, Sugarte, Leonard, 167 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.440 I'm trying to remember James Tony just to name a few. 168 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.360 So boxing has a great history. Angelo Dundee. So I've 169 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.399 always loved boxing. Unfortunately, to me, it's gone downhill and 170 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.519 UFC has taken over. But I'll never respect that as 171 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.960 much as I love boxing, and to me, boxing is 172 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:04.679 just something else. 173 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:11.080 So Scott, they're asking if the A's will still Are 174 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.519 they they still the A's or will they change their name? 175 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.879 All right, here's what's gonna happen in Sacramento. They're going 176 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.360 to keep the A's but they're but they're allowing logos 177 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.799 for the Sacramento a's for a couple of years, probably 178 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.440 from merchandise. But they'll be officially called the Athletics when 179 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.799 they're out there. When they get to Vegas, they'll be 180 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.120 called the Las Vegas Athletics. 181 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.480 I'm waiting for somebody to go ahead and rename their 182 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.960 team to the Gamblers when they go there, like in 183 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:39.960 the USFL back in the day. 184 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.960 Now, don't hold your breath on that one. 185 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.200 They'll keep the a's and uh, Jeremy, you want to 186 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:46.960 respond to this? 187 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:51.159 Downtown really needed that baselift with the proteins in town. 188 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.600 Glad they moved out of Pontiac in Auburn Hills. I 189 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.720 mean yes and no, because the Pontiac's Olverdome was the 190 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.480 house that Burry built, right, and you know you want 191 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:04.919 to talk about that. It was thirty on his legs. 192 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:08.000 It was great. The first time they showed the video 193 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:11.080 of trying to demolish the Pontiac Silver Dome, the dome 194 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:17.039 had been collapsed. They had like silver screens for the 195 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.360 drive in that went all the way around it that 196 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.320 they were running in the parking lot, and when they 197 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.879 blew it, the whole building hopped up and sat back 198 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.039 down and didn't fall the first time because they didn't 199 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:30.679 make the right type of explosive. 200 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.039 Well, let me tell you the Pontac Silver No said 201 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:34.600 you a lot about the turf and all that, because 202 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:37.480 I don't spent many times on the field. I love 203 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.879 the Pontac Silver Roome because I was living in Oakland County. 204 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:42.679 I was in Farmington Hills. I spent a lot of 205 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:46.120 time in Highland and for me, a trip down fifty 206 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:47.159 nine on Sundays. 207 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.759 I spent my Thanksgivings there. I loved it. 208 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:53.200 Obviously, you know people are acclimating the downtown Detroit. The 209 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.200 Lions used to play at Tiger Stadium for those of 210 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:57.919 you that want to know, until they moved to the 211 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:58.720 Pontacs over Roome. 212 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.399 But I love the Silver Dough. I realized the turf 213 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.639 wasn't great. Pontiac could have kept them, but. 214 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:07.159 They were so dark, greedy, and they wouldn't give the 215 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.080 lines an extension where it was a favorable And we 216 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.399 all know about the Pontiac Silvertome story. After that at all, 217 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.279 it went downhill. And but you know, the Lions made 218 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.159 the move they had too, and Pissions followed him. As 219 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.399 far as the pogo stick, I have no idea Jeremy 220 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.720 knows more about it whereabouts. 221 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:26.559 Than I do. 222 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.039 I have no clue where the pogo stick is. 223 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.960 I mean, I've always said that I tried to mentor 224 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.559 the guy as much as I could. I gave him 225 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.360 numerous chances than haven't made, and Jeremy was the only 226 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.240 one that could get through to him. Nothing against him, 227 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.600 he's a great kid, but there's only so much time 228 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:45.960 you can give an individual until some point you have 229 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.879 to upgrade the talent level on your network. 230 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.440 So going back to stadiums closing, I can go back 231 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:58.519 to County Stadium in Milwaukee that closed, that actually housed 232 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:03.039 the Milwaukee Brewers and they would hold some Green Bay 233 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.320 Packer games there for a number of years, and that's 234 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:12.039 when they decided the Packers decided to exclusively play up 235 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:17.200 in lambeau Field and take away the Milwaukee games. But 236 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.559 they still have a Milwaukee package that has for some 237 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.960 of those season ticket holders that held Packer tickets at 238 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:30.879 County Stadium. But Miller Park was built and now it's 239 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.200 American Family Fields because they'd like to change names and 240 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.600 you know, sell sponsorships. Let's face it, money needs to 241 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:43.279 breed more money, right, Lambeau Fields still in jeopardy the 242 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:49.120 city wise up yet Milwaukee would love Green Bay to 243 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:50.000 mess that up. 244 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.000 I yeah, I don't. 245 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.720 I don't think they're gonna get rid of Lambeau anytime soon. 246 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.080 Well, they've been asking the city to do a bunch 247 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.320 of upgrades and the mayor has declined to do it. 248 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:12.480 And the city that's offering to build them their high tech, 249 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.639 brand new dome stadium is Milwaukee. And I'm not saying 250 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.919 they will move because it has to be decided on 251 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:25.639 by the CEO and the board of the Packers, So 252 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:27.440 it has to be put up to a vote of 253 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.519 everybody who owns more than fifteen percent of the shriff. 254 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.200 Well, that's the first time I've heard of that. One's 255 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:34.279 so all right, it's good to know. 256 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.720 That would be very interesting. I'd be very surprised. I'd 257 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:40.320 be shocked. 258 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.399 Oh, I'd be surprised to just because of it. But 259 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.720 the only thing I do know is that the Packers 260 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:51.720 would finally have a Super Bowl in their stadium if 261 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.559 they were a dome. Yeah, that's probably why they'll do it, 262 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.000 because it's not a sharing ree revenue of the Super Bowl. 263 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.519 But Candy, my question to you is, let's just say 264 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.679 the this is a real long shot. Maybe it'll put 265 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.120 pressure on Green Bay a little bit. But do they 266 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.519 have enough hotels candy to be able to I. 267 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.879 Don't know, because they are so close to Milwaukee is 268 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.600 closer to Chicago. Green Bay is so far up that 269 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.600 that's why they would never put it up there. But 270 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.799 Milwaukee is close to close enough to Chicago that they 271 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:31.080 could probably consider hotels in Chicago as well. 272 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.480 So, and it depends if. 273 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.600 They where in Milwaukee they would put a stadium. I mean, 274 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.919 let's let's face it. The Brewers left because they had 275 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.320 a hard time getting renovations of their new stadium, So 276 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:51.720 it would be interesting. That would be definitely very interesting. 277 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:57.159 But so let's uh, let's you know, change our little 278 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:02.320 uh from local A's. There was a retirement that was 279 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:08.000 announced in the NBA today Derek Rose. What are your 280 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.000 thoughts Scott about Derek Rose retiring. 281 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.120 Not going into the Hall of Fame. Hurt too often, 282 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.559 but had a solid career, you know, obviously no for 283 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.799 what he did in Chicago, had a cup of coffee 284 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.200 in Detroit. You know, it's just too bad. Some guys 285 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.559 are definitely injury prone. He's had numerous stuff and you know, 286 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.759 I was a good player. I've seen a whole lot 287 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.600 worse than Derek Rose. It's just some guys just get 288 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.519 snaked bit in my injuries and you never see what 289 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.320 their potential could be on an elite level. So I 290 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:39.600 wish him well in retirement. 291 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:40.799 I really did. You know. 292 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.480 At least he could say that he finished his career 293 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.679 in Memphis, albeit for twenty four games, so he played 294 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.200 at Memphis State. It was a superstar there, and I 295 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.840 could see Rose, Derek Rose actually going into coaching. 296 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:53.519 I really could. 297 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.799 I feel the same way. I think his stats just 298 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.919 keep him out, coupled with all the injuries that made 299 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.400 him miss as much time as he did. I agree 300 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.200 with you. I don't think he gets into the Hall 301 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.319 of Fame unless they start making the NBA Hall of 302 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:14.640 Fame like the NFL Hall of Fame and it becomes 303 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.440 the Hall of very good because he was very good. 304 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.559 Yeah, no debate about that, jar Mary. Let's go to 305 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:22.759 the chat room. 306 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.759 Derrick Rose's Russell Westbrook on steroids before was injury, had 307 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:27.920 all about that dude was a freak and the youngest 308 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.240 MVP ever. For his injury, I will probably buy the 309 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:33.359 second half of that I don't like to sit here 310 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.680 and put anybody on steroids unless I have actual proof. 311 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:40.240 Of that, so I'm not gonna. I'll probably defer against that. 312 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.119 De Rose. If he never had those knee injuries, he 313 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.440 definitely would have been a Hall of Famer and now 314 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:46.519 bad I agree. 315 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:50.240 With Yeah, no questions about that. Yeah, you know, I often. 316 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.559 Love dream Babe to mess that up as one of 317 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.799 the ones that Orlando said. And then Corey Patterson adds 318 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.880 the fact they should be in Detroit anyways, I feel 319 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.519 like your team should represent where it is and not 320 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:06.640 the suburbs. Just my opinion, and I agree that sentiment too. 321 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.000 Yeah, I like Orlando's comment. Rose versus Grant Hell, both 322 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.920 careers ruined by injury. Good careers would have been an 323 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.119 all time great of not for injuries. Many years ago 324 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.720 before he retired, I had a chance to talk to 325 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.519 grand Hill, and I believe I think I was in Orlando. 326 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.680 I don't remember exactly where, but I did catch up 327 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.680 with him once. He regrets actually leaving for Orlando because 328 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.359 obviously Ben Wallace got the championship. 329 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.440 Ring that he was to get to get. He just 330 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.440 didn't think they were good enough. If Doug Collins had 331 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:34.680 him on the right track. 332 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.519 And wanted to build around him. So but Grant studs 333 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.240 pretty well for himself, that's for sure. 334 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.359 So Derek was born and raised on the South side 335 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:48.240 of Chicago. His hometown Bulls drafted him first overall in 336 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.759 two thousand and eight. The explosive point guard immediately became 337 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:57.920 a star, averaging sixteen point eight points and six point 338 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.200 three assists per game in two thousand and eight eight 339 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:01.519 to two thousand and nine. 340 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.279 To win the Rookie of the Year. 341 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:08.599 He was named MVP two seasons later, averaging twenty five 342 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.519 points and seven point seven assists per contest from twenty 343 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:16.319 ten to eleven. At twenty two years and seven months, 344 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:21.240 he remains the youngest MVP winner in NBA history. However, 345 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.200 he suffered a torn a seal during the twenty twelve 346 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:31.640 postseason and subsequently missed the entire twelve to thirteen campaign. 347 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:35.880 The ailment was the first in a string of knee injuries, 348 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.640 and he was never quite the same player again. Rose 349 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:43.400 averaged twenty one points per game across his first four seasons, 350 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:48.200 compared to fifteen point one points per contest over the 351 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:51.039 final eleven campaigns of his career. 352 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.640 Oh, you just summarized it right there, so there's only 353 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:56.480 not more to say about it. I did meet Penny 354 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:58.680 hur Away one Memphis has taken on FA. 355 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.839 He would have known a super nice guy. I'm Glady's 356 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.680 coaching Memphis. He's a good role model for those kids. 357 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:07.799 Yes, Rose was very athletic. 358 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:13.359 Watched his highlights before his injury. I lived in Philly 359 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:15.519 when that injury happened. It was against the Sixers in 360 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:16.240 the playoffs. 361 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.440 I was pissed. 362 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:23.400 I hated Grant Hill at first, just the hate for duke, 363 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.839 I guess, but immediately changed my tune when we got him. 364 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:27.720 Lol. 365 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.880 I think my hate for Christian Latner might have had 366 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:31.880 something to do with it. 367 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:34.440 Yeah, that usually has something to do with it when 368 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:35.880 he's on your side, doesn't it. 369 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.839 Don't forget get got Memphis in trouble for getting paid 370 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:47.319 too before nil. Yeah, well, it's kind of funny you 371 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.519 bring up nil because that would be lead me to 372 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:58.640 my next topic. U NLV quarterback Lucas leaves the program 373 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:04.960 because he did not get the money he was promised, Right, 374 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:10.039 wasn't it that offer? That's what they're saying. They're saying 375 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:15.000 that his coaches said he would earn one hundred thousand dollars, 376 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.960 whereas he has been paid a total of three thousand 377 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:24.880 dollars just for relocation. He had played three seasons. 378 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:27.079 With oh I had it just a minute ago? 379 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:29.680 Who was it? 380 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.599 He transferred from Holy Cross to UNLV to play his 381 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:39.880 final season and he played three games and he told 382 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:43.200 him that he was leaving because they could redshirt him 383 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:47.519 and he would have one more year of eligibility. My 384 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.799 question to the panel is, and I don't know the answer, 385 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.240 when they're talking all these nil deals, I would think 386 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:04.480 I would want something in writing, because at one point 387 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:09.839 it's you said, me said, he said, she said, I 388 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:12.920 would want something in writing before I would commit. So 389 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.559 I don't know if there is such a document that 390 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:22.200 I haven't heard, But can you LV get I'm assuming that, yeah, 391 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:26.759 that someone's gonna get in trouble because if someone says 392 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:28.680 I mean, they put them in a whole lot of hurt. 393 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.799 Because UNLV is three and zero right now, there was 394 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:35.039 a chance they were thinking they could make the playoffs, 395 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.960 and now with the quarterback not playing and leaving the program, 396 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:42.200 tell me your thoughts, guys. 397 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.079 Well, bottom line is, you have a lot of litigation 398 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.319 out here because there are too many uncertainties about this 399 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:50.119 anil thing again. So all I'm going to say is 400 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.440 there's a lot of gray areas. The only way that 401 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.880