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Speaker 1: On location. I'm driven by or Dots G. Brown. It's

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Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks

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for getting your pot on or should I say your

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pot on today because we were at MJ Dispensary where

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we just recorded the third podcast, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 1: Michelle is all excited. They've got their big hollowed events

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on October twenty fifth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve to five. It's a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, man, have fun, put on a costume,

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be something, costume contest, just say costume contest, Pumpkin carving contest.

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Speaker 2: Carving contest, other games and prizes. We have our big Wheel.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of things about MG, real quick expansion

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is happening. Yes, this is to me amazing and there's

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gonna be one I'm going to say on the far

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west side and the far east side of Monroe County. Correct,

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honeyways still in Monroe County, right.

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Speaker 2: I believe follows is still Monroe County.

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Speaker 1: Which is perfect because you're right out in that, you know, Pittsford,

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Fairport to get all those Yes, that's fantastic, and these

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are going to open in the next couple of months.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I would say within the next two to three

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months is what we're shooting for. I mean, right, can

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be bumps in the road, you never know, but that's

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our goal, right, Okay, Yeah, it's going to be phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's very exciting.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot of hiring right now. Intent anybody

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got a resume and three references.

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Speaker 1: Drop them off, right, And who's sitting with you today.

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Speaker 2: This is Grace. She's one of our lead bud tenders.

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She's phenomenal. She she's also is now we declared her

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our lead trainer, real training people. She's been very good.

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We brought on a couple of new employees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's got to train them all.

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Speaker 2: She's taken the rain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, phenomenal. What what's your I'm going to ask you,

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like what's your weed journey? But like what is that?

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Because well, you know, you come here and you've got

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to if you're it's really about education, right, I mean,

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there's so many different strains. The's somebody I used to

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joke like you need a restrictor plate on weed nowadays

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because you know, you get the wrong thing and it's like, hey,

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i'll see you, I'll see you in the spring. You

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know what I mean, right in three days, and I

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just think that it. I think it's amazing what has

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happened in New York State. I wish it would go

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at the federal level. And we seem to be a

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little silly with this stuff. Maybe the things should have

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been reversed. Maybe there there should have been more regulations

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on alcohol and not so much and weed. But whatever

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that aside kind of you know, where did you get

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your education and interest? Was it the hallways of your

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high school?

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Speaker 4: And then I don't know, I think after college ye

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just kind of like helped me a lot, you know,

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in terms of getting into like adulthood over anxiety and yeah,

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I don't know, I think it helped me a lot.

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And then I started learning more and more like through

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my partner, and started like growing some plants, okay, started

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watching some fun videos about all the processes of creating

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the oils and you know, crying the flower and such, and.

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Speaker 1: Where did you go to college? And what? Four?

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Speaker 4: I went to college the College of Saint Rose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think is no longer right, no longer.

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That's just sad. It's kind of sad because that was

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a really I assume music niche were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I went from music industry and they were really

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niche with a few different things like music industry, not

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many places. What else was there?

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Speaker 1: I remember a friend of mine when I graduated, and

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I'm bazillion years older than you, wanted to go to

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Saint Rose and I think in but there was some

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financial restraints on it. And what was like that was

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considered one of the best in the area now by Albany. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

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So you went for music, music and business, music and business. Sure, No,

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that's great, that's like see you again. Smart. So here

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we go here, that's smart, that's like thinking ahead here. No,

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I gotta have some knowledge. I don't want to get

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screwed on the contract kind of thing. That's the kind

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of thinking that's going on in that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so from how did you end up with MJ

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and the love of Weed? And I say love of it?

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And I know it sounds bad maybe the way I'm

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phrasing it, But what I mean is the knowledge, Right

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you like helping people?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just also love to learn as well.

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I think was a very easy maneuver.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I think I called those transferable skills, right yeah,

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a way to talk to people, right yeah, looking for

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an escape, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Yep. But then I don't know. I think I just

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love to learn, and so this provide me with an

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opportunity to, like I already knew a lot, sure, learn

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even more. And I just love the fact of like

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helping people out and getting them to be a little

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bit more knowledgeable themselves.

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Speaker 1: And right att Yeah, and then all the training stuff.

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So what goes on in it in like training like.

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Speaker 2: Our buttender training on Wednesday, so the vendor will come in,

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they give us their speel on the company, how the

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company came about, and then whatever products they have they

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teach us, whether if it's a vape or concentrate gummies,

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how those are made. In the process of making those,

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they'll bring in like products for us, Like if it's flour,

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they bring in the flower, We sniff it, we can

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feel it.

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Speaker 1: Really Oh yeah, wow, this is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a good forty five minutes to an

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hour training. They bring us breakfast too, so it's like

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in samples they bring us. You know, it's nice.

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Speaker 1: That's well, it's the way you it should be done.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's the respect I mean, especially for

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the new people coming in who don't know the products

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we have on the shelves, right.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really important to to like meet the

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people behind the brand as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can know their story. Yeah, that's true

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because it's their journeys. Yeah, it's such a thing. Like

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doctor Dankenstein was one of my favorite people. Yes, he's amazing.

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He's like just a big lovable bear.

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Speaker 2: He is he is, He's cool, he's cool ash too.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think it's it's it's fantastic. I love the

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fact that there's the expansion and stuff, but I always worry, like, uh,

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maybe it's more the edibles. You know. I grew up

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down by Woodstock, so weed was always around. Uh not

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my not my house. My parents were not into that

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at all, but my friend's parents were. Like I got

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high with a friend's mom. We did this. People would

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make pop brownies, you know, and so the edibles. And

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to me all the time, if you're going to smoke it,

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smoke it through a bong because the heat on a

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joint can melt the soldering on a roach. Cliff smoke

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it through a water bond, and that's what he would

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say to me. I don't know if this is true

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is nineteen eighties, eighty five, eighty seven somewhere in there.

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it is to eat it, because you know, you don't

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want that heat in your lungs. You don't want that,

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so you would eat it. But the problem with eating

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it when it was made in brownie for stuff is

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you Yeah, but it was never evenly distributed. Somebody who

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eat at one end of the brownie pan was fucked

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up for days, and the other person's like, hey, man,

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always it. And then the uh I find though with

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sometimes with the gummies if I don't know what I'm doing.

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I had a whole incident one summer where a friend

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of mine gave me a gummy. Yeah, we're down on

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uh Cuca Lake, and then we're at his house and

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we're drinking, of course, and then then yeah, then he

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throws me a gummy. UH swears it's five milligram. Nobody

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believes us, We get we get on the boat. We

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go to another house, big party, everything hanging out, and

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all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm gonna get sick.

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So I run into the bathroom and then I Michelle,

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I had to crawl out. I crawl into the bed,

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the perfectly made bed, and I just crawl up and

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like I had to pass out for a while. But

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not only is it not I didn't even know the

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people's eyes, did not even know the people's whose house

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and you know there's all these people hanging out and

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park in their boats, and you know they're drinking and

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having a good time. And I am like gone, and

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sometimes turns people away from what is a healthy alternative.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why the legal markets the best, because

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you know how much you're eating and know how much

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you're getting, you know what's in it that you're consuming. Also,

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Speaker 1: And how do you make gummies?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's so easy, is it really?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, you know how to make gummies too,

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I've seen it. Guess I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: I've done it. You see, I prefer making oils instead

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of butter. Can of oil and once there, what.

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of like olive oil, you're throwing a panty. You throw your.

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Speaker 2: In the thc well oil. But like my best friend

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gummies because it tastes so long. You gotta do the gelatin,

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you gotta do this that. So we would buy Swedish

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fish and gummy bears and we melted them and then

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah it was great. I love sweetish fish.

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it was so easy to make and they were very tasty.

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one of these, like the sweetish fish. Did you ever

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get so high on sweetis fish? Like your No? No,

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nothing like that.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm eaten. So in the gray market, there used

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to be candy bars that were going around. They looked

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like twigs reasy peanut buttercups. They stated they were a

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thousand milligrams, which I'm thinking they were probably two three

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thousand milligrams, and I really yeah, I felt like I

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was floating on a cloud. But it's not like I

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was like, but it was. It was a fun experience.

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I'm laying in bed like, huh, yeah, I love this.

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Speaker 1: I'm a cloud, right, I mean, here, here's the thing.

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So many people have a problem with sleep, right, There's

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so many people who are sleep deprived and sleep deprivation,

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and there's a number of studies that would compare sleep

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deprivation to drinking alcohol and you're deprived and you get

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behind the wheel of a car and I'm definitely sleep deprived.

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and everybody will try melatonin doesn't work for me, they'll

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try something else, but then they'll try like a zequill

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for that isn't exactly medicine, but that's what it is.

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would say, right, do you use anything to help you sleep?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I just smoked before, but typically, oh really, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could sleep for a long time. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now we have kids, so we're definitely sleep deprived.

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Speaker 1: I'm sleep deprived and I got a kid. Yeah, Like

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it drives you crazy. What's going on drives me absolutely

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bat When.

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Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. Teenagers they're not They're fun,

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but they're not easy.

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Speaker 1: No, and look at it's part of growing up and

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neither nor way right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was a perfect little angel, honestly, honestly,

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I was like no one knew like that I was

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a pothead or I drank. Everyone thought I was the

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goody goodie jeez.

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Speaker 1: Not only did they know that I drank, the cops

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showed up in my house when there was a party

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that I wasn't act that property got destroyed, and they

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wanted me to squeal on my buddies because they knew.

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I knew everybody was that was there. Oh my god,

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true story, true story I had. I got voted most

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likely to still be looking for a party ten years

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later in my yearbook.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I would walk around with my dad was so mad.

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Speaker 2: I would walk around with a sports bottle in school

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with a screwdriver in it shut. Oh yeah, no one

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knew they thought it.

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Speaker 1: We really can't smell vodka? Yeah, orange juice. Hey, I

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like the way you think.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I got people coming in that I

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graduated with, and they'll see me. They're like what I'm like,

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I swear I'm still a good girl, but I'm like, yeah,

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I was a closet stoner. Yeah everybody. Yeah, I think

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dad's out of the bag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I would assume did you do more arts in

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high school?

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So was that not very pop to learn the arts?

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Speaker 4: No, I would say it's still very popular. Say everyone

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my senior year of high school, like bonded over smoking.

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Speaker 1: Where can I ask where you went?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I hope not to like throw people into the bus,

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but around quite high school?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I'm well, I'm sure, yes, Like it's

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out there you're not going to put this genie back

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in a bottle. And now that it's legal, at least

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you know what you're getting. Oh, you're not getting some

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strain that or god forbid laced, right.

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Speaker 4: We hear that kind of fun back in the day.

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But I definitely think it's nice to know exactly what

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you're smoking.

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Speaker 2: Able to see it.

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Speaker 4: Like the testing I think is just like huge because yeah,

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especially like the lacing and stuff, like you can see

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everything on everything. There's the CoA that you can scan

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and know exactly what you're getting. Go down into the terpeens,

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figure out what works best for you and what like

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you prefer the most.

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Speaker 1: Or Yeah, tell me about like your family and stuff.

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Growing up. Were they open to the idea of marijuana?

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Not open? Like my parents were not open. No, and

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they were teachers, And my mother has gotten a little

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bit cooler. And then one year Maine, well I don't

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know if main I don't know what the legal status

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of marijuana isn't me. My brother lives in Kennybunk and

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my mother went up there because he has younger kids

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than I do, and she used to come up when

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my boys were growing up to do Halloween with the

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boys and go around trick or treating. I get a

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call from my brother and I'm at a costume party.

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He goes, dude, Mom, just like they kept teasing her

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about taking a gummy, and she popped the gummy and

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I Michelle, I don't know if it was a twenty

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five milligram or whatever. So he puts her on the phone.

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She's laughing as she was Yeah. And so then then

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my dad, who died in July, kept calling me, going,

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I went down. He lived in Jersey, and Jersey I

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think has legal marijuana. He went to the dispensary. He goes,

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I bought a gummy. I'm afraid to try. I'm afraid

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to So I don't know if he ever did or didn't,

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But then we're thinking he did once because he like

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passed out for like a day on the couch, like

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I think, so oh, so these people who were so

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I don't I guess up type. My dad used to brag, Yeah,

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you know where I was going when I was in Woodstock.

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I was going the when Woodstock happened. I was going

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the opposite way, on a through way to a wedding.

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I was in a three piece suit like he said,

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I like a some square, which I find okay, that's fine,

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But then I find out years later I think my

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uncle was growing it once in a while, and so

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I'm like, but they they claim they never did it.

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Speaker 2: I believe that my dad never.

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Speaker 1: But they were of that generation. Like graduating college in

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the summer of love right in nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 2: Nine is like finding out later down the line.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well it is later down the line. And

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we've done such a great job of scaring the shit

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out of people and making this the evil drug that

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you you should never do. I mean, I you know, look.

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Speaker 4: The devil the nineties commercials or early two thousands commercial

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braining into the couch. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's wild or

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it's still wild to like watch them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I forgot. I was I was almost too

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old for those, but you would see them on MTV

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and stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. So they did a great

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job of working against it. And I always say, like,

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and people think I'm a little crazy. I go, in

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my lifetime, all the technology that we have, we're now

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sitting in your lobby recording a podcast, right, basically a

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radio station without a tower. That's what we are. And

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you can do all this because of technology. We have iPads,

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we have this, you can find out any information. No

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reason to be stupid anymore because it's all right here.

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And I still will say. One of the biggest things

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in my life is the one eighty on marijuana. Right.

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I know Michelle has heard the story a million times.

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Fourth grade, I had a drug counselor come into my

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classroom and burn weed in like like a strainer, like

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one of these screens, and he just said, if you

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ever smell this, you come find an adult.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, come find it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting now, I'm starting to think like if you come,

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if you smell this, you will find it at the time.

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But the strangest thing, so that's your fourth grade education.

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You were scared. If you ever smell this, you're in

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big trouble. You better get in here. You know, you're

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talking to nine year olds. That's an early indoctrination of

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what weed is or is not. And so as I

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see this one eighty, I really think that's one of

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the biggest things that I've seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I witnessed it through my son, like

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they still when he was he's a senior. Now when

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he was in elementary school. They pushed wheat is bad,

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Wheat is bad. Weat is bad. Yeah, my son knew

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from an early age. Mom's a consumer. Basically, I started

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it again right for health reasons, so he would come

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home Mom. They're saying it's bad, but you say it

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helps you. I'm like, I had explained the stigma. I'm like, look,

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it's good for you for health reasons. I'm like, if

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you want to go out and enjoy yourself when you're older, yes,

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but you have to consume responsibly once you get older.

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I'll explain it more detail.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to see this with alcohol a little bit now.

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You had it when I was a kid, right, I'm

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fifty four, so eighty five or something. I think that's

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around the time or maybe the early eighties. Mad started

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mothers against drunk having and so that was like a

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really I think the government started to fund these things

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and rightfully so. But now, and I was saying this

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to you on your podcast store pot cast. Excuse me,

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get it right, Get it right. That alcohol. You're starting

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to hear like, no consumption is ever good for you scientifically.

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Right now, I will tell you I love to drink.

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Alcohol was glorified in my household grown up. My dad,

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who wouldn't touch weed, was you know, mister doctor in

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philosophy and educator and all this love to get hammered,

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I mean just loved it right. Used to buy what

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was called the cocktails for two. You could buy these

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pre made. They were called cocktails for two, so old

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that the thing was had a styrofoam label on it,

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and I used to try to peel it off without

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preconnet as a kid. Yeah, well I'm a little older

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than you much and the so in the big fight

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in the house was my mother screaming, he.

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Speaker 3: Buys cocktails for two, but they're really for one.

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Speaker 1: Could drink it all right, So but it was always glorified.

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This is what dad did to relax when Mom wasn't home,

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and he would make a big dinner, have the house

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sparkling clean before she came home. He'd be helping us

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with homework, but you would notice his tolerance would drop.

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And it wasn't just orae juice. He was drinking and

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then even start singing to me as we're doing the homework,

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and I couldn't figure out you are so stupid that

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I am so smart. True true, you wonder why I'm

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fucked up, I hear you. But the point being that

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now we're starting to get that education the other way

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on alcohol. Oh yeah, And I would love to know

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what's being said about marijuana. And I don't know in

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schools are they starting to say there's medicinal benefits to it?

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I mean, look, I had that one cool teacher, right, cor.

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I mean, I think if any teacher was told her

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that he was telling us that, they probably would have

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been fired. Oh yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure they don't talk about it. I mean, like I said,

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my son is a senior now, but they don't talk

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about it. And like the health classes at all in

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the Ice school, he said, interesting, which I I think

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personally they shouldn't talk about it. I think that should

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be a parent's responsibility. Nice to educate your children right

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on marijuana legal and illegal, right, I mean, and the

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alcohol too. I mean, I get it. I grew up

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in the family Lake yours. My dad was a car

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salesman my whole life. Come home, crack open a beer,

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sure weekends, he'd have his dry Southern comfort Manhattan with

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a twist. Yeah. After he passed away, my brother and

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I took my mom out to eat and we tried

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one in memory of my dad. That thing was so

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fucking discussied fuel that I was like, that's like.

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Speaker 1: You know those cars that blow out fire to go

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down to the dragway. It's putting thee.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up where Okay, I'm in fifth

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grade here, Michell'll have a beer. Yeah, okay, it was okay, yeah.

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I mean, and I'm not far off from your age.

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I grew up in the eighties. We're in the seventies.

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I mean so yeah, I mean part family parties. Me

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and my cousins would be running around with half drink

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beers that our dads would give us.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: So what's the difference of I grew up with alcohol

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prominent or if my son grows up with marijuana prominent.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the difference is what's the difference. I

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do think there's a difference. I think that alcohol is. Yeah.

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I don't think there's ever any I was never told

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drink responsibly. No, No, you had a Frank a newer

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podcast which will be come now talk about consumption right

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but proper. I don't know if I'm using the right term,

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but appropriate consumption. We'll say and to me that that

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is what it's about, because there's so many things. You know,

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we talk about just the sleep, talk about people with

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and I'm going to say this wrong, but I hear

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a lot of people talk about fibromyalgia.

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Speaker 2: I have fibromiologia.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, look at me, just step into that that one.

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Speaker 2: Cannabis is a miracle drug.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on three different prescriptions, and you and

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I have talked about how my doctor took me off

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all my mads. I feel most my pain in my back,

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my feet, in my hands. I will do either smoke

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a little bit when I first wake up, so when

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I get to work, I'm not stupid high. But it

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really is my pain.

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Speaker 1: Know what it takes to relieve the pain. So it

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would be like taking a time on all or Yeah, for.

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Speaker 2: An average person would be like ibuprofen. But sometimes the

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pain gets so bad an average person would want a narcotic.

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00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,559
That's how bad my pain can get. In my hands, well,

469
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,720
I mean yeah, a lot of times I'm walking around here,

470
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,440
I'm like, can you open this? My hands aren't working

471
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:48,240
today because fibromagia, it like it mirrors, Like if I'm

472
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,359
having an issue on the left side, the right side

473
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,039
will be exactly the same, hands, knees, feet, head.

474
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,759
Speaker 1: What is that fibromyalgia?

475
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,799
Speaker 2: It is like it's an inflammation of your nerves. Okay,

476
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,079
it's There's still controversy over the exact disease because people

477
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:08,599
say doctors made it up because they couldn't find a

478
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,119
diagnosis for people who had these pains. They thought it

479
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,200
was in their head. I mean, it's very similar to rheumatoia.

480
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,039
Speaker 1: So many people were not we just gave it exactly.

481
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:23,480
It was like everybody basically that's basically.

482
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:27,519
Speaker 2: What the medical community was.

483
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:29,559
Speaker 1: You're crazy, but we're going to give it to you.

484
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna okay, we're going to make up this.

485
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:36,960
And other people, like in the insurance industries and other practices,

486
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,759
they're like, no, this is not a real disease.

487
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: You need to die right.

488
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,279
Speaker 2: It is, and it's very common in females and it's

489
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,720
more common in males. Little do people know, and the

490
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:52,880
medications do not help men. I have seen three people.

491
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,839
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, wait, when you say don't help men, the

492
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,519
first thing I think it is and I'm not trying

493
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,759
to be craph but some kind of sexual problem.

494
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:09,839
Speaker 2: No, no, not that way. No, No, it does not

495
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,519
cause okayand I mean there's stuff to counter that.

496
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but like your gummy.

497
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: In Actually we do have right marijuana for everything I

498
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,559
told you, Yes, But like the medications don't help with

499
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,599
the inflammation and the pain for some reason with men.

500
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,039
I honestly don't know the scientific backing behind it. I

501
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,319
don't know if it has something to do with testosterone

502
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,599
or women's with their hormone levels. But I know three

503
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,680
individuals men fybromelgia. None of the pills ever helped. Marijuana helps.

504
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you just kind of keep it at a

505
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,759
even keel and it gets rid of it. I would

506
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,680
correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't. I haven't watched

507
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,599
the news a whole lot yether do I I find

508
00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:59,759
it very depressing, and I think that for your mental

509
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,599
health sometimes you need to honestly stay away from him. Yeah,

510
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,480
but I thought I just heard something where President Trump

511
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,240
stood up and talked about how bad Thailand all is.

512
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:11,799
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if I did that, but I

513
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:12,920
can agree.

514
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that he Okay, Now, I'm glad I brought

515
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,160
this up. Because and I am because you were a nurse.

516
00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:21,279
Uh he talked about like I think, and then you

517
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,599
gotta be careful with some of this stuff. Oh yeah,

518
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,079
you know he likes to shoot from the hip, which

519
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,359
can be someone if you're not too affected by it,

520
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,880
you can look at what the fuck? But the I

521
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,119
think he was saying something about autism rates and then

522
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,039
he goes, it's just bad for you. It's just bad

523
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,000
for you. Don't take it's just bad for you. Now

524
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,920
we've had it for so long and and and everybody,

525
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,440
I would think majority of people at some point, I

526
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,400
think even doctors have said, if your kid has a

527
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:53,440
fever or something, alternate tiland all advil, right, and I

528
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920
think I did tailand all sinus. You can wild side

529
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,839
his headaches at time, so like just wild I don't

530
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:01,640
know what would you?

531
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know about the whole I've been out

532
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,839
of the healthcare field since all these studies with the

533
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,279
autism and that comes out. Don't the one thing I

534
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119
do know, and I have seen the proof for this,

535
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,799
Talano can kill your liver, especially if you do take

536
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,279
it on a regular basis. Now me, I take it

537
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,599
here and there, not often. If I have a headache,

538
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,559
which isn't that often, but if you're taking it like

539
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,160
there was. At one point I was having medical issues

540
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,279
about ten fifteen years ago. I was taking five advil

541
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,039
four times a day, per my doctor. Advil doesn't work

542
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:42,240
on me anymore. Because of that, I built up a

543
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:46,599
tolerance where any ibuprofen does not help. So yeah, I

544
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,599
mean then they ruin your liver. I mean I know

545
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,079
some people who go in for liver tests because they

546
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,640
were chronic tnnel users.

547
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, And so you can definitely have something at

548
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,319
mj oh that you can get, right, lots of stuff

549
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:04,160
for clean as well. Yeah, a lot of things for.

550
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,519
Speaker 2: Pain, headaches, everything. CB.

551
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,359
Speaker 1: What would you say to somebody because you know it's

552
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,480
another one CBC. Okay, So if I came in here

553
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,599
and I said, I get migraines, right, what would you recommend?

554
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,240
Because I have a friend that tries acupuncture for this

555
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,720
stuff and it seems to work a little bit or temporary.

556
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,640
And I keep saying, go to AMNJ. I do I

557
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,079
just go to am J. They'll help you find They're

558
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,799
so smart, they're so nice. You know, you don't have

559
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,400
to worry. I think there's still that stigma, because boy

560
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,279
did they do it, as we've said, a great job

561
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,839
of painting it with a broad brush. That's not appropriate.

562
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,359
Not true, right, right, not true.

563
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,759
Speaker 2: I'll have Grace answer this one.

564
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, just like we've been talking about,

565
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,079
like the two biggest things that I get are either

566
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:57,160
pain or for sleep, for like headaches. Honestly, there's a

567
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,640
company called the Green Lady, and they label it the Painkiller.

568
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,000
That's like the name of the product. And yeah, it

569
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:10,839
has CBC and CBG in it, and yeah, people love

570
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,279
that one.

571
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like CBC.

572
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: It's also just.

573
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: A very good.

574
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: I love that formula.

575
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Just it's like it's happiness to me. Oh yeah really

576
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,880
And CBC has been as they say, I mean, it's

577
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,440
been shown to help headaches.

578
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, well there you go. That's all. Yeah.

579
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean that with the combination of the THC and

580
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:41,000
the CBG, I mean, tax inflammation helps your pain. You're

581
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,079
feeling uplifted.

582
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 1: Here's a somewhat of a I guess an offbeat question.

583
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:52,160
But my sister has lime disease, has had lime disease

584
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,799
since eighteen years old, badly to the point where she

585
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,720
couldn't walk and stuff and thinks that she's had like

586
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:05,759
just recently was in Iceland for a vacation. This summer.

587
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,279
They go on these great vacations. They won't take their well,

588
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,839
they won't take their kids to Disney, and one kid

589
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,079
was complaining, we always go to a beach, so instead

590
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:16,279
of Disney, they do these trips. Gets about the equivalent,

591
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,079
and so they went to Iceland, then they went to Denmark,

592
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,079
and then they went to Croatia and the beaches in

593
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:25,920
Croatia for over two weeks. While in Iceland, they're taking

594
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,839
a snowmobile trip up a glacier and my niece shifts

595
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,240
the wrong way on the back of my sister's snowmobile

596
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:38,119
and it rolls over and my sister wound up trying

597
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:39,839
to lift it off, worrying that it was gonna be

598
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:42,880
on the kid. As a result, has four months now

599
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,960
walked around and it is going to have I think

600
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,880
surgery today on her thumb because she tore the ligament

601
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
and it wrapped around the muscle, and then she tore

602
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,079
a rotator cuff in the other shoulder. And she's saying

603
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:58,119
that there was like she just thinks and she worries

604
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,640
about herself. She goes I don't know that's wrong with me.

605
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,359
Like one of the kids was born at home because

606
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,799
she didn't realize she was in labor, and she goes,

607
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,960
I wonder if I just don't feel good so often

608
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,960
that I just figure that's part of it, right, Okay,

609
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,039
And there's other things in her health too that have happened,

610
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,119
and she's gone to all kinds of alternative doctors, but

611
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,000
no insurance covers it. So you're paying sometimes up to

612
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:27,079
thirty grand out a pocket. Right. Do you see in

613
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:34,519
the future doctors that will be recommending more marijuana types stuff?

614
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,759
Do you understand what I'm saying, but that would be

615
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,319
uncovered by insurance and can actually benefit and help people.

616
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,160
I don't know. I know it's a little bit of

617
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,359
a deep question, but it's a yeah. I mean, I

618
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,440
think having been in the healthcare you know, you're certainly

619
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,519
in the business you maybe you know, I don't know.

620
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel if they declassified it and bring it,

621
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,119
you know, legal onto the federal level, why can't insurance

622
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,599
companies cover it for people? Do copays?

623
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 4: Right?

624
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, even for medicinal you have to

625
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:06,039
pay cash for the doctor visit, right, because of what

626
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,119
you're going for insurance won't cover it because.

627
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: It's a federal yet.

628
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're going for cannabis, right, so that's in

629
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,359
your chart, insurance won't pay for it. So right there,

630
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,759
you're paying a couple one hundred and fifty two hundred

631
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:19,960
dollars for the doctor visit. Yeah, then you got to

632
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,240
pay one hundred dollars for the card, the actual medicinal

633
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,720
marijuana card. So you're in what two fifty, three.

634
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:27,839
Speaker 1: Hundred, fifty or three hundred.

635
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: Then by the time you can only use it in medicinal.

636
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,599
Now they do, I've heard word of mouth they do

637
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,119
give you discounts and stuff. They can do that legally

638
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,039
in medicinal. But still, I mean, it's it's it's outrageous

639
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:45,319
the price. Yeah, that that is like just come to

640
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,039
recreational and pay thirty forty fifty bucks for your.

641
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Eighth Yeah, that's exactly. But get here and I'm sorry, yeah,

642
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,000
but you guys are like doctors. I don't and I'm

643
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680
the I use that loosely because I certainly don't want

644
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,039
to get but you know, you have enough knowledge that

645
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,920
you can help somebody who's in pain, and I just

646
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
wonder I'll ask you how many people have come back

647
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:10,119
and go, oh my god, thank.

648
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: You, Oh God.

649
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,559
Speaker 4: Definitely, it happens often.

650
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

651
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,639
Speaker 4: People definitely find what works for them, and you have

652
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,079
to like and they stick to it because.

653
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Sure, we find what works. Like and when we say

654
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,880
find what works, you're doing the same thing. Let's say

655
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480
you have fibromialgia and you're a guy and nothing has worked.

656
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,199
How many different have you tried? Oh yeah, right, okay, pill.

657
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,039
Speaker 2: I went through a lot of different medication.

658
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,639
Speaker 1: Yes, right. So that's what I'm saying, is that, But

659
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,159
but you'll have people here who guide you, will remember

660
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,119
you right you come back, They're going to remember you.

661
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,880
They're going to say, hey, how did that work for you? You know,

662
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,920
or you remind them of whatever it is. But I

663
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,400
just think that there were heading in a great direction,

664
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,639
like I do, and I think that that's a good thing.

665
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Has your family, who did you say was not very

666
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,599
Are they a little more now? Have they tried some

667
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:03,199
of the stuff?

668
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: I mean? I think I talk My mom is also

669
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,360
like a nurse, and we talk a lot about it,

670
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,119
and like she's definitely like open to me, like discussing

671
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,480
like everything that I do. I'm still trying to get

672
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:21,000
my dad to it because you know, he has so

673
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,519
much pain. Like he is, he's older, and all he

674
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,039
talks about is like saving his liver.

675
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how old is your dad? Can I

676
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:40,639
answer seventy is older? Okay, But if she said it,

677
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,079
I absolutely believe that. But your mom, as someone in

678
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:48,079
the medical field, does she see the benefits of it?

679
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:49,840
Sometimes has she tried anything?

680
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,159
Speaker 4: I think she is, like, yes, opening up to like all.

681
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Over, like the benefits because it's almost like you can't

682
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:02,320
ignore it anymore, you know. And I think that's wonderful.

683
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,960
And I think, like you, being a person, you could change,

684
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,000
you might be able to help change the medical field

685
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,719
a little bit. No nurse comes in and goes, hey,

686
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,039
I got to tell you.

687
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean we have doctors at the

688
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:19,000
VA that recommend patients here. Sure so, And I'm loving

689
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,039
it because, like you said, will doctors ever talk about this? Yeah,

690
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:22,840
they're doing it now.

691
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Good good. I just well they did, Like if you

692
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,679
had somebody on who's taking cancer drugs and they need you.

693
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, it's more prominent now, yes, for doctors to

694
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
talk about I just wish, like you said, it would

695
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,639
be great for it to go federally legal, so insurance

696
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,840
can pay for this for people who really, really truly

697
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,920
need it from medicinal I.

698
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,559
Speaker 1: Keep hearing rumblings that Trump was going to push through

699
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,760
at the federal level. I don't know how much blockage

700
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,320
there is because here's the thing. What you know, it

701
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,760
always comes down to money, is it not. Oh yeah,

702
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,239
big pharma, big money. Oh yeah, money. So people would

703
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,719
be out.

704
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,679
Speaker 2: That's the thing to a lot of people don't want

705
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,440
it to end up in the federal level because then

706
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920
you'll be able to go to Walgreens or something to

707
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,000
buy it because there's pharmacists.

708
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Okay, great, but you know what, they're not going to

709
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,280
spend the time to talk to you and do the

710
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960
right thing. I understand, yeah, but they're not. I would

711
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,239
always want to come to a dispensary where that's all

712
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,639
they do. You know, I don't need the guy A

713
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,639
Bob from Bikes can come up. Bill's got a question

714
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,840
about weed? You know what I'm saying, because that's what

715
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,960
the fuck they're gonna do. Hey, I know Bob gets

716
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,639
high in the back there a couple of times, you

717
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:31,880
know what I mean? Like that, I don't need that.

718
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,360
Come to MJ where aesome, you know. But that's that's

719
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,079
how it works.

720
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: Bob's busy. But we got a bill here from hardware.

721
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're looking for nuts and bolts. Oh, you're looking

722
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,719
to get MutS. You know. It's like that bothers me

723
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:57,360
because it is simplifying something that isn't you know, And

724
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,719
I'm not again, I understand maybe you could get it pharmacies.

725
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,519
I'm not sure.

726
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 2: I know CBD you ken now you can. Yeah, I've

727
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,000
seen it at Walgreens right near my house. Oh yeah, okay,

728
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,920
it's crazy.

729
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wouldn't you want to talk to somebody. They're

730
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,760
not going to be I guarantee they're not gonna be

731
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,960
able to do. Yeah, you come in here, She'll be

732
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,679
able to walk you right through. You'll be able to

733
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,280
walk them right through to whatever. And if the other

734
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,679
employees can't, you can always blame her because she's the trainer. Right,

735
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:25,880
I got there.

736
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,159
Speaker 2: There I go.

737
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. No, it's not. That's

738
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000
that's Yeah. I think that the way this is all

739
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:37,280
going is great. I love hearing about the expansion of

740
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,079
MJ Dispensary. I love that we're sitting in the lobby.

741
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,079
I always wanted to do it out here with you.

742
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: I know you did, Yeah, and we made it happen today.

743
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to come, like I think the monthly

744
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,400
stuff when we do the one in October, Yeah, October

745
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,760
twenty fifth at the Hallowed party. Can we do it

746
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,519
in the lobby?

747
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do it in here.

748
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Is it bad for you to pull away from the tent,

749
00:38:59,199 --> 00:38:59,599
it's not.

750
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: The Only thing is sometimes the lobby here can get

751
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,519
full because it's so crowded in there. We can't fire

752
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:08,480
your code. We can only let so many people back

753
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,880
onto the sales floor, so sometimes there's overflow of people

754
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,440
waiting here.

755
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like out there, sometimes the Wi fi

756
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,719
doesn't right well, And yeah.

757
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: We could definitely do it in here because people want

758
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,360
to see you guys. Oh yeah they do.

759
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:29,119
Speaker 1: Well, No, how do you know? Maybe they do? You know,

760
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
some guy with a thick Italian accent called up looking for.

761
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: I wonder why I'm getting stocked by people.

762
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Well, I'm really really thankful, and well I

763
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,599
will wrap it up here that you agreed to do

764
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:48,239
this today. You're helping me out a little bit.

765
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,199
Speaker 2: Hey, you helped me out. I didn't have to travel

766
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:51,280
to Fairport today, So.

767
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: No, and I know I think that's uh yeah, Fairport

768
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,239
is so far. Here's the thing, like, I love Fairport

769
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,519
and I lived I lived in Pittsford with my when

770
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,599
my guys were little, and I love Fairport more. It's

771
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:09,360
just it's it's that oh yeah, it's got that village feel, right.

772
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,840
So I grew up down by Rhinebeck, New York, which

773
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,880
was a village. My mom lives there now. It's familiar.

774
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,400
But there's no easy way to get to Fairport.

775
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: That's true.

776
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: They're just is not an easy way. It's not right

777
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:23,280
off four ninety.

778
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,679
Speaker 2: It's not.

779
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not fucking lying to me to do that loud,

780
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,639
you know, And I need something you need to come back.

781
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Do you have anything that that would be like a

782
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,559
not a zolof a what what would be like an antidepressant?

783
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,360
People going like yeah, yeah, yeah or something like that.

784
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,079
Speaker 2: We have stuff that all work similar to.

785
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, just enough to level the Out's a.

786
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,159
Speaker 2: Whole gross of them.

787
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:03,199
Speaker 1: Well you'll find it all here. MJ Dispensary, Jefferson Road

788
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,639
and Henrietta soon to be in spencer Port are you

789
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,280
gonna have to train the spencer Port employees.

790
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: There we go.

791
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,159
Speaker 1: Are you are you going to be in charge of

792
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,119
MJ Dispenser MJ's training program.

793
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean now that's hopefully where we'll be heading

794
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,159
because everybody will train in the store. This is going

795
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,920
to be the main hub. Okay, train everybody, then put

796
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,000
them into their stores.

797
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that I like it. So this

798
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,639
is like where so if you're in this area, this

799
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,480
is where you need to come. But then the Honeyoy store.

800
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,840
Honeyoy Falls another quaint little village, right uh, and then spencer.

801
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,159
Speaker 2: Port another quaint little village.

802
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: It is another quaint little village. Now that I think

803
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,000
about it, Now we need to.

804
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,599
Speaker 2: Go to Fairport.

805
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: I guess yes, yes, yes, Well they're starting now too.

806
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,559
I think to even put some of the drinks, but

807
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,760
I think they have to be like hemp drived three

808
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,800
per what do you know about that? No, but the drinks,

809
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,519
I think, like bars are starting to sell them, but

810
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,239
they're really low percentage. Not people are like, why would

811
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,840
I even drink this?

812
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like zero point zero three percent something like that.

813
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,159
Speaker 1: And they're why is that?

814
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: So you get the benefits of the hemp other than

815
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,400
the just THHC like hemp, like Christian was saying, is

816
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,920
similar to that CBD that gives you the relaxation, and

817
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,119
hemp does that also.

818
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,679
Speaker 1: Okay, So, and I.

819
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:41,039
Speaker 2: Think bars in stores that can legally sell those are thinking,

820
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,440
oh it says THHC on it marketing, I'll be able

821
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,039
to sell these. But even though they're not really one

822
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,400
hundred percent got it?

823
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a whole changing world, but very controlled. Right,

824
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,960
It's still very controlled. And when you think about the

825
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:05,079
control and when you're voting, think about this, it's money.

826
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,159
What are they really what what does it really come

827
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,119
down to, and what is going to benefit you your family?

828
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,559
You know, somebody who's living with some kind of condition

829
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,440
that they're just trying to navigate the world in this

830
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,679
body that just isn't one hundred percent.

831
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, and you're talking about money, I'm

832
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,760
going to talk about it in another way. Us going

833
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
to Honeyway Falls and Spencerport. I have a shirt on

834
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,760
that says forty percent today. Yeah, forty percent of the

835
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,039
taxes we bring in stay in the community where our

836
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:40,559
store is shut up. Yeah, So thirteen percent is the

837
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:44,719
tax forty percent of that thirteen percent stays here in Henrietta.

838
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,679
Speaker 1: Why is this not talked about? Or maybe it is

839
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:48,320
and I'm just not paying attention, is it?

840
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: But not to the point like they'll separate it. This

841
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,519
goes here, this here, this goes here. Well, look it

842
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:57,280
turns out it's forty percent.

843
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: My favorite argument always is tax st dollars paid for that.

844
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:03,880
And I'll go, I don't know what my tax dollars

845
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,840
paid for. I mean, I got out rage, but what percentage?

846
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,320
I have no fucking idea. And by the way, I

847
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,039
can never not pay them, so right, you know what

848
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:12,320
I mean.

849
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: I get that tax seasons right now. We just got

850
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,760
our bill.

851
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,559
Speaker 1: In the moon. Yeah right, so exactly.

852
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you and eventually those monies that we're

853
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,639
bringing into the towns and the villages are going to

854
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,039
bring your taxes down, right, I mean, Henrietta, Well, I

855
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,400
can't remember the exact amount we brought in last year.

856
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,440
I want to say, it's like forty four thousand something

857
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,440
like that. I think quote me on that, but yeah,

858
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,760
I mean, and they saw their taxes didn't go up

859
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,079
quite as much this year. They're projecting in like the

860
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:48,760
next full five year expansion from when we started here

861
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,320
five years. Taxes are going to be going down because

862
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,880
of the cannabis in the communities.

863
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: And don't tell me that people. Everybody isn't gonna want that.

864
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: Right, Like these towns that opted out. I don't understand

865
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,519
why the supervisors and the town boards don't want to

866
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:08,159
opt in, because it's money for their schools, for your town,

867
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,159
for the roads, anything your school your town needs.

868
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: Well, look because it's a vice, right, And some people go, well,

869
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,599
I don't want advice, pay it for whatever at the school.

870
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,400
New York State lottery.

871
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, gambling and gambling.

872
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Gambling to a certain degree. Right, and by the way,

873
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:27,760
all the gambling that goes on on sports now, right

874
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,639
with the legalized betting. Right, did you bet? You seem

875
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,320
like you bet? You made a face like you did.

876
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 4: I mean, we have a fantasy here, and yeah.

877
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:36,679
Speaker 2: I bet sometimes.

878
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: Isn't it fun?

879
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: It's fun.

880
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,599
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. First time I've done all

881
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,159
those all those taxes, like all that tax to I

882
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,639
think New York State, like it was a little bit later.

883
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,199
They did it because Jersey did it. People were crossing.

884
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,360
You know, everything is run by New York City and

885
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,639
New York State, so many people were crossing over to

886
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,639
go to New Jersey to bet and do these things.

887
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,159
New York's like, well fuck this, and so I think

888
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:03,599
they surpass them as a state, they're bigger, but it

889
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,039
blew them away in terms of what the tax revenue was.

890
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,679
So all these things just benefit you no matter what.

891
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,039
And you're not putting the genie back of the bottle. No. No,

892
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Next is sex workers, but we don't need to talk

893
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,599
about that in this podcast. Why not.

894
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: Next, we need psilocybins legal.

895
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,159
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, like that.

896
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:27,639
Speaker 2: You know psilocybins. A lot of people don't know terms strooms. Yeah, yeah,

897
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,840
I mean it's starting to go legal for medicinal purpose

898
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,480
purposes slowly, yes, very very slow, because it does have

899
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,960
a few microdos, does have a lot of a lot

900
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,280
of benefits for people when their ological issues.

901
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,159
Speaker 1: There you go, right, and they do it. It's already

902
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:43,880
in Colorado.

903
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I think I heard Cali's getting ready

904
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,199
to pass it too. Well, there you go, So that's

905
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,880
only going to be a matter of time, right, And

906
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,119
then again, it's another plant grown in the earth.

907
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, how dare you? People?

908
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: Better nature?

909
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: So it feels better I think that I think the

910
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,079
Native Americans knew all this stuff and we came in

911
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:08,800
and fucked it all up somehow, someway or another. But yeah,

912
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,239
that's right. We're figuring it out. We are figuring it out. Well.

913
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,519
Thank you very much, both of you for your time

914
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,360
and uh for MJ. Dispensary for allowing us to be

915
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,719
out here, for Michelle.

916
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill.

917
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blank on her name.

918
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,599
Speaker 4: Are that's all right?

919
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,159
Speaker 1: My name is Grace. I shouldn't know.

920
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: I like to call her Gracelynn. Nolan's not her middle name.

921
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,559
Speaker 1: It's not her middle name. No, No, it's a very

922
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,000
like it does. It rolls off the tongue, and I

923
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,599
would say, almost like the Irish Catholic family names were

924
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,519
like Grace Lynn. Yeah, yeah, yep, I got it. I'm

925
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,599
Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.

