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True Murder with your host, 55 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:48.280 journalist and author Dan Zufanski, Good Evening. 56 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.759 We like to think of women as nurturers, not murderers, 57 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.240 but women do kill. California's Deadliest Women is The Definitive 58 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:02.039 Guide to the Murderesses of the Golden State, a horrifying 59 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.919 compendium of women driven to kill by jealousy, greed, desperation, 60 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:11.360 or their own inner demon From Berne Hartman, who killed 61 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:15.520 her husband comedian Phil Hartman, to chemist Larissa Schuster, who 62 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:21.240 dissolved her husband in acid, to dominatrix omema Arie Nelson, 63 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.080 who cooked and ate her husband. The twenty eight women 64 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.080 profiled in California's Deadliest Women show that the fair sex 65 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:31.360 can be as evil and as deadly as any man. 66 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:35.280 The book that we're featuring this evening is California's Deadliest Women, 67 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.639 Dangerous Dames and Murderous Mums, with my special guest journalist 68 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.000 and author David Colchik. Welcome back to the program, and 69 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.159 thank you very much for this interview. David Colchick. 70 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.919 Well, thanks love for having me. So he's a pleasure. 71 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:55.759 Thank you very much. Another very fascinating, as you say, 72 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:03.639 compendium of stories from California, and this time some deadly women. Now, 73 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.039 let's get right into some of these stories, because there 74 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:10.159 are so many and so many ones that I had 75 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.919 never heard anything of, and amazingly i'd never heard of them. 76 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.879 So let's get right to a couple of these, and 77 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:21.560 let's start, I guess, just to get the audience prepared 78 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.079 for some of the stories that are in here. Let's 79 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:26.240 start off with She's a man Eater. 80 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:32.439 Well, that's one of my favorite favorite chapters in this book. 81 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.600 I didn't know about it when it happened. I stumbled 82 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.240 onto this while I was doing the research. It's a 83 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.319 sad story. All these are sad stories. There are no 84 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.439 happy stories in this book. There are no happy endings. 85 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.519 Everything is horrible. It was tough writing this book in 86 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:56.480 some ways because there was no letup of There was 87 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:02.240 no joy in this book. In She's a Man Eater 88 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.600 omani Irie. She was born in Egypt in nineteen sixty nine, 89 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.120 which could have been one of the worst years to 90 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:13.319 be born in Egypt. There was the war going on 91 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.639 with Israel, and everything was just a big mess in 92 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:22.240 nineteen sixty nine, especially over there. She there's not a 93 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:25.240 lot known about her growing up, but we do know 94 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:30.079 that she had she was forced to have female circumcision, 95 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:36.160 and that's pretty common back then. There's a lot of 96 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.480 things about it now to stop it. But when she 97 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:44.959 was eighteen she immigrated to America. She was ip but 98 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:53.720 one beautiful woman, just very exotic and attractively built, as 99 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.759 the Beatles would say, being young and beautiful in this country. 100 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:03.839 She never liked for male companionship, and she probably really 101 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.079 didn't even go to school, So we have no idea 102 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.720 what her education level was, or even what her language 103 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:15.360 skills were, how good she was speaking English. But one 104 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.240 thing that she managed to do when she got to 105 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.120 America is that she kind of became because of her 106 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:26.839 good looks and everything she's she became not necessarily a prostitute, 107 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.560 but she was an I candy for rich people's parties 108 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.120 and things. As we know now. 109 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:34.800 You know. 110 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.000 Extremely you know Hollywood functions or you know Donald Trump functions. 111 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.879 He hired beautiful women just to stand around and and 112 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.079 just make it seem like it's a better party than 113 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:52.920 whoever they were trying to impress. She she got her 114 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:57.279 sexual thrills though through bondage and one of her favorite 115 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:04.279 uh virtual things to do, and especially because of her circumcision, 116 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.879 she sex was painful and traumatic for her. You know, 117 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:10.800 like I said, no one really knows what her life 118 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.879 was like in Egypt before she came to America, but 119 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.879 one of her favorite things to do would be to 120 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:21.319 take guy and tie him up to their bed, to 121 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.680 his bed, and then she would take his wallet and leave. 122 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:30.319 And no one knows how many times that actually happened, 123 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:34.879 but there were at least two cases where guys called 124 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.199 the police and filed charges and then dropped them before 125 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.120 they went to court because they probably got teased really 126 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.959 badly at work and things about that. And it's kind 127 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.560 of funny because I read one thing is that one 128 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:52.839 guy was like two days he was tied up to 129 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:54.959 his bed, and so it was quite a mess when 130 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.759 his friends filed him and stuff. So she fell in 131 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.360 love with this pilot who was convicted of drug smuggling 132 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.040 in the eighties. But he was just middle aged guy 133 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.000 and he's like fifty six years old at the time 134 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:11.839 they got married. They only knew each other a few 135 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.199 days and they got married. So they seem to be 136 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.800 getting along fine. And November twenty second, nineteen ninety one, 137 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:25.160 that's Thanksgiving Day in America, when everyone else was around 138 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.920 having turkey and watching football games and hanging out with 139 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.399 their relatives, both student decided to have a little bondage gate, 140 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.159 and so she tied up Richard Nelson to their bed, 141 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.200 and then she took a clothes iron and beat him 142 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:42.720 over the head with it. And to make sure he 143 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:45.240 was dead, she took a pair of scissors and stabbed 144 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.600 him a bunch of times in the chest. So that 145 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.120 put her in the holiday spirit, and she dressed up 146 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:55.720 in her favorite bondage clothes, which were like red, and 147 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.559 put on her red high heeled shoes, a red hat, 148 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:03.000 put on blood red lipstick, and she started to cut 149 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.480 up her husband. Now, the police showed up at her 150 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:10.919 apartment on December second. One of her former boyfriends called 151 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.159 and told the police that she asked him to help 152 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:17.759 dispose the plastic bags of leftover turkey and body parts. 153 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.799 So the police showed up at their place. And you know, 154 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:24.840 it's almost a cliche, but his head was cooking on 155 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:29.960 a pot on the stove, his hands were fried in 156 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.120 cooking oil, they were in a pan, and he had 157 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:38.320 basically his guts were all in different garbage bags. One 158 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.600 of the bags was in the back in the trunk 159 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:45.120 of Nelson's corvette. And she told the psychiatrists that she'd 160 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.320 cooked his ribs and dipped them in barbecue sauce and 161 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:53.240 ate them. And she told the investigators nothing tastes as 162 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:56.639 good as the man I married. It's the sauce that 163 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:03.240 does it. WHOA, yeah, that's that's really getting out there. 164 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:08.200 So at her trial, she claimed that she was defending herself, 165 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.519 but it didn't really fly because he was tied down 166 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.679 and there's really no way that he could have threatened 167 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.960 her physically, at least when that happened. So she's currently 168 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.919 doing twenty eight to life in prison right now. 169 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.440 Was there any explanation why? I know you don't have 170 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.120 it in here, but was there any just that just 171 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:41.000 begs the question what was her motivation to to eat him? Yeah? 172 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.679 No, one knows. She was pretty tight lipped about it, 173 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:50.919 you know, when she was arrested, when she realized how 174 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.759 far she actually went. Now, you know, that's definitely a 175 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.159 mental illness on her part. I would say, I think 176 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:02.919 it'd be pretty hard to to try to prove that 177 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.720 she wasn't mentally ill by you know, eating her husband 178 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.360 over a period of four or five days. 179 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.279 But she had she had to claim that Nelson had 180 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.600 beat and raped her. So it was a self defense 181 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.960 or provocation defense, wasn't it. Yeah? 182 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:27.600 Yeah, she she claimed that. But from from what all 183 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:31.159 their mutual friends said, they have bet they were actually 184 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.360 uh pretty. He treated her with respect and didn't seem 185 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.679 that there was any kind of you know, problems with 186 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.960 them doing what they did. They enjoyed a different kind 187 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:48.799 of sex than most people, he used to. I guess. 188 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:50.480 Right. 189 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:56.080 I don't mean to laugh, but the story actually got 190 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.759 when I tell it in front of a live audience, 191 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:02.240 it gets pretty good laugh. In some places, for some reason, 192 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:09.879 people are fascinated with cannibals. Oh yeah, absolutely taboo, you know, 193 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.159 as bad as you can go, you. 194 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:17.919 Know, sure, And yes, sir, and you don't normally hear 195 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.279 people make that kind of claims about the ribs and 196 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:25.159 the sauce. So that's unusual. So let's talk about the 197 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:30.480 Shopping Spree Killer. Another fascinating case, even more incredible this one. 198 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.320 The former Dana Sioux Armbrust was born in nineteen fifty 199 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.480 seven in Orange County and her mother was Beverly Armbrust, 200 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.480 and she was a model. So tell us a little 201 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.600 bit about Dana Sioux and how she grew up before 202 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:49.759 we talk about what her lifelong dream was to be. 203 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:52.679 And so we can just explain a little bit about 204 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.399 this very complex character and this very fascinating tale called 205 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:57.559 the Shopping Spree Killer. 206 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.639 Yeah, I think the Anna sue her mother was a 207 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.559 former fashion model, and she always wanted more. 208 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:07.039 She was. 209 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:14.000 Seventies eighties party animal in the Los Angeles area. She 210 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.879 had married Russell Ambergs, who was a hairdresser, and I 211 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:22.519 guess they did pretty good together. She spent the money 212 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:27.320 and he made it, and she always spent more than 213 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:31.879 what they earned. And for some reason, Dana picked up 214 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.440 on that. When she was a little child, she had 215 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:38.600 this odd obsession with money, and she knew what it 216 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.039 was worth, even when she was a little kid. And 217 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.759 I recently gave one of my great nieces a dollar, 218 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.480 and she's about four years old. She didn't know what 219 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.039 to do with it. She just looked at it like, 220 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:52.559 I don't even know what this is. But about Dana, 221 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.840 she knew what it was. Her mother they got divorced 222 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:01.879 and she was a scientologist, and she spent all their 223 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:06.639 money on churches, classes and things like that. So she 224 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.240 rented out her driveway to some men that were in 225 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.440 RV vehicle and this is about in nineteen seventy three 226 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.759 or something like that. Beverily would go out nightclub and 227 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.600 all the time and have parties at her house. And 228 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.559 that's how Vana grew up seeing this kind of stuff. 229 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.120 She had a boyfriend who lived with her in that 230 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:32.240 so she misbehaved in school and got in trouble, got 231 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:37.240 in fights, shoplifted, and she hated taking orders from anyone. 232 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.559 She'd sneak out of her bedroom at night and wander 233 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.279 the streets and things. And I think she lost her 234 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.600 virginity at age twelve to one of the guys that 235 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.919 lived in an RV in her driveway almost been about 236 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.399 nineteen seventy or so. Her mother was diagnosed with cancer 237 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.159 in seventy one, and she saw how her mother suffered 238 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.799 going through of her chemo and things, especially back then, 239 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.720 she decided to become a nurse. And Beverly had a 240 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:08.120 knack of if she decided to do something, she would 241 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:12.360 she would be totally successful at it. She would go 242 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:16.200 beyond beyond what most people could do. Just anything she 243 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.799 tried she was great at. So after Beverly died, she 244 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.080 moved in with her father and his new wife when 245 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:27.000 he had had quite a few wives, actually I think four, 246 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.639 and when it came down to it and she had 247 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.480 to share a bedroom with her stepsister, and you know, 248 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.360 a girl like that, going back to living with a 249 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:40.919 strange stepmother and a strange stepsister, she was getting in 250 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:45.679 nothing but trouble. So her brother, her stepbrother from the 251 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:53.080 first marriage, introduced her to skydiving, and she became excellent 252 00:15:53.240 --> 00:16:01.559 at skydiving. After her step mother found some marijuana in 253 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.480 her room, they kicked her out and she just moved 254 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.919 in with her boyfriend, who was twenty three years old. 255 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.720 She was sixteen and her boyfriend was a jumpmaster at 256 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.960 the skydiving club. So she grew up being really athletic. 257 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.440 Blonde haired, blue eyed California girl went to Newport Harbor 258 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:24.799 High School and she graduated. She started going to college 259 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:29.480 to be together a nursing degree, and she at the 260 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.840 same time she started playing golf, and she also got 261 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:36.480 into windsurfing, which is, you know, the pioneering days of windsurfing. 262 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.639 Nineteen eighty one or so. She graduated from nursing school 263 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.360 and became a nurse, and you know, I was making 264 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.320 good money being a nurse at that time, and she 265 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.840 started going to windsurfing competitions and golf tournaments all over 266 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.759 the West Coast in Hawaii and was enjoying pretty good life. 267 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.039 So the thing was stayed that way. That would have 268 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.440 been good, but she always wanted more. Her father got 269 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:10.680 divorced and married again, and she wasn't sure about what 270 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:14.200 to do with her life. She went to New Zealand 271 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.599 or no, she went to Australia and she went there 272 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.359 to see if she could get work and it didn't 273 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.960 work out. There was this guy named Tom Gray who 274 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.319 went to high school with her. She had moved in 275 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.680 with her father in a Canyon Lake, California, which is 276 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:35.039 about one hundred miles east of Los Angeles in the 277 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:40.720 deserts they called the Inland Empire area. So this guy 278 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.160 that lived nearby was a guy who went to high 279 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.240 school with her, and he always had a crush on her, 280 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.519 and it was like, hey, you know, it's kind of good. 281 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.640 She doesn't know anyone out here in that And this guy, 282 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:54.160 Tom Gray, he was in a band called Long Shot 283 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:58.680 and they played all the Los Angeles clubs and seemed 284 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.319 to be doing really good. But the band wasn't serious. 285 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:03.240 They didn't want a record deal or anything like that, 286 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.599 so he kind of put that away. He was also 287 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.759 an ultra light aircraft pilot and he would fly over 288 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.880 you know, races and things like that, heeing banners. And 289 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:20.640 his real job with a construction heavy equipment operator, so 290 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:25.720 you know, that's good paying jobs. So she went to 291 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.920 she went to Australia then, and she just couldn't get 292 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.279 work without having the just empty bedpans. And she had 293 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.720 a lot of experience by then, so she came back 294 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.200 and Tom Gray picked her up at the airport and 295 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.920 she they fell in love and got married and she 296 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.799 got a job a little in Catalina, the Catalina Islands 297 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.559 off the Los Angeles, which is she'd come home for 298 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.000 the weekends. And they started a They bought a house, 299 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:01.559 and they started a marriage all in one company where 300 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:06.599 he was a Universal Life minister, and they had the band. 301 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.519 They had a print shop and they would do everything 302 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:11.920 that you needed to do to have a wedding. So 303 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.119 you know things are going good. Money it's coming in, 304 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.720 and this is kind of hot. 305 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:17.440 Dina. 306 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:20.759 She didn't know how to play any instruments, and once 307 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:22.559 that came up that they were going to have like 308 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.799 a wedding band, she almost immediately learned how to play 309 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.079 guitars and keyboards and things. She just had this neck 310 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:32.759 that she could just pick up anything and do it. 311 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.079 So you know they were having a wife. They bought 312 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:41.119 a house and things, and it was in Kenyon Lake, 313 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.960 and Kenyon Lake is like a gated city and it's 314 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:48.039 not like these lagoons and lakes. You can't just drive 315 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.240 in there. You need a card pass or you need 316 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:55.240 to know the combination. People feel pretty safe there. They 317 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.119 were living beyond their means and they had a second 318 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.480 mortgage on their house. Then the house in double broke 319 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:06.759 and there were no more jobs for heavy equipment operators. 320 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.599 It became pretty tight, especially with their double mortgage, and 321 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:14.039 her credit cards were all maxed out, and Dana never 322 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.680 stopped going to her weekly hair appointments and manicures and 323 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.880 spat dates. She had a gold Cadillac. She kept on 324 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:25.480 going out and buying clothes and accessories, just like they 325 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:31.799 were fully employed. So she started getting really mad about 326 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:34.000 the lack of money that they had and that Tom 327 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.559 would ask her not to spend so much, and she 328 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.799 just would not have it. No one could ever tell 329 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:42.480 her what to do, so she asked her stepbrothers for 330 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:45.680 money and other relatives, and she angered her old family 331 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:50.559 when she tried to change a will of her stepbrother's 332 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.440 great aunts, who she was not related to at all. 333 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.799 She had nothing to do with them, and she, you know, 334 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:01.319 her relatives were just just having it with her. They 335 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.960 just couldn't couldn't deal with her anymore. She got a 336 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:08.599 job at the Inland Valley Regional Medical Center as a 337 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:11.759 labor and delivery nurse, and she took extra shifts and 338 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.880 by all accounts, she was really good nurse, but she 339 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.000 didn't get along with her coworkers at all, and she 340 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.960 had been reprimanded for or not getting along with them. 341 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.680 She wanted to have a baby. Couldn't happen. They just 342 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.200 couldn't have. They just couldn't do it. 343 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.079 So she. 344 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:39.480 Here in his time, Tom discovered that he really wanted 345 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:41.680 to keep his band, start a band together. He really 346 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.319 loved his music. So we started a band. And the 347 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.000 guitar player in the band is this guy named Jim Wilkins, 348 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.200 and she immediately got an eye for him. He had 349 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:54.200 a six year old son, and she really found that attractive. 350 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:59.119 It would be her surrogate son that she that she 351 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.960 couldn't have. And also during this time, she was pingpong 352 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.680 and between her husband Dan and between this guitar player guy, 353 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.759 and you know, Dan pretty much just threw his hands 354 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:12.680 up in the air and just looked, you know, make 355 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:17.039 up your mind someday. So she got fired from her 356 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:21.559 job for stealing demole and other opiates. You know, you're 357 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.400 supposed to just stray what she don't use. And she 358 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:31.319 was a false false buying a narcotic inventory. And she 359 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.160 said that she'd these were files that fell on the floor, 360 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:37.079 but they didn't believe her and they fired her. So 361 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:42.079 Tom At this time, they were separated and she had 362 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.599 taken out a life insurance policy on him and he 363 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.160 didn't know about. On Valentine's Day in nineteen ninety four, 364 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.039 she called him and asked to meet him, and he 365 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.240 just didn't think it was a good idea and he 366 00:22:54.279 --> 00:23:00.079 stood her up. So she instead that she was in 367 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.480 the area where they lived. Their house was now in foreclosure. 368 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.960 She still had her pass key for the gate of 369 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.319 that air of that town, and she drove past her 370 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.240 old house and she saw eighty six year old Norma 371 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:17.759 Davis who lived nearby, and she was the former mother 372 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:22.200 in law of her latest stepmother. And it gets pretty 373 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.920 pretty complicated in a way, but she's no relation to 374 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:31.839 this person, but she knows her through her stepmother's through 375 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:35.359 her stepmother. So she went over to her house and 376 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.039 Norma was recovering from a triple bypass surgery, and she 377 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.240 let her in, like, oh, how you doing, And she 378 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:47.279 sat down in her chair and Dana snuck up behind 379 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.799 her and strangled her with a phone cord that seemed 380 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.119 to be like her favorite weapon. It just started. After 381 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:57.440 she was done strangling her, she stabbed her eleven times 382 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.039 or two knights and broke the knights off. 383 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:00.680 To the hilt. 384 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.000 She was almost decapitated. They didn't find her for two days, 385 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.119 so you know, the police are wondering who would do 386 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.440 such a thing to this helpless old woman who hadn't 387 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.119 never done anybody rock. There was hardly any evidence around. 388 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:20.160 Small shoe print, smear, blood, phone cord that was with 389 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.920 vala wall there. They didn't know what was going on. 390 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:28.799 Two weeks later, she goes to the same place in 391 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:33.160 Canyon Lake and there's sixty six year old June Roberts 392 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.799 and she she was She would strive through the neighborhood 393 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.519 and she saw somebody outside, she'd pull in and say, 394 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.480 she said, hey, do you have a book about kicking 395 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:48.759 alcohol edition addiction? And you know, can I borrow it? 396 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.480 And she got up to go use the to go 397 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.240 up to go get the book, and she came up 398 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.680 behind her and strangled her with another phone court and 399 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:00.160 she took cash and two credit cards from her. 400 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:00.720 Some left. 401 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.519