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Speaker 1: Yo, What is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome

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back to another episode of the Rant Cafe Anime Podcast.

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Today it is just me and Jordan the anime dude.

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What up, dude? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Happy to be here. Hope you guys

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are doing well. Make sure to comment if you are there,

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so that way we know, because as I was talking

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with Briggs about earlier, otherwise you're just Shorten's viewer. Are

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you there? Are you not? Like, we'll never know if

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you don't comment, so it's true.

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Speaker 1: And you can also comment on Spotify. Most of our

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viewers for this podcast are on Spotify and you can

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leave a comment, which is really cool. Let us know

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what you think. Today's plan is kind of to go

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through briefly the Bunny Girl SEMPI season one anime and

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then get a little bit more into depth and focus

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a little bit more on the three movies than me

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and Jordan just watched for the first time very recently.

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I did not watch the new season. My plan was

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actually to suggest, you know how we do like the

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little thing when we go in a circle and we

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suggest shows. I was going to suggest the new season

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a Bunny Girl, but Recon's not here. He's out touching grass.

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Look at this dude touching grass. Who would have thought.

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Speaker 2: Did? I can't even imagine. It's just last time I

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touched grass. I don't know it was his forever ago. Dude.

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Speaker 1: The only time I go outside is to play sports,

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and that means I'm touching ice and sand. I played beach,

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volleyball and hockey. So I go and touch ice and

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sand and then I come home to my air conditioned

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room and play games.

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Speaker 2: I played basketball, so I feel you. I played the

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indoor sport, non ac stuff, so I need a roof,

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et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, starting with Bunny ro Sempi the first season,

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it was quite a bit better than I remembered. I

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remember liking the beginning and then just not having like

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the I was just thinking the rest, which is kind

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of okay, as they went into so many different like

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plots and arcs and cover different syndromes for different characters.

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I feel like my first time watching it, maybe weekly

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or when I was a little bit younger, I liked it,

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but I didn't love it. Upon rewatch, I feel like

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I appreciated it way more. What were you with your

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general thoughts there, you Ordano.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's always been one of those shows

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I enjoyed a lot, and I enjoyed enough where I

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definitely needed to rewatch it prior to going into the movies.

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It's always been like a solid like seven seven point

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five for me. Like, I enjoy it. It's not my

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favorite thing, but it just reminds me of so many

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other things that I've also seen done, and I like

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those a little bit better. But have you ever seen

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like our gyru or or Bakemonagatari or anything of that nature.

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I think I did watch some of that, and then

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I watched I did not watchgu I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah. So Sakata is like one of those

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main characters that you know, kind of blends in with

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those shows as far as he's very self sacrificing and

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he has the uh as a lot of people. He

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puts kind of above himself. He doesn't really cherish himself

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in the same way cares for others. And you know,

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Bunny Girl Sipi is an interesting show because we see

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that these things that kids go through and these coming

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of age stories just kind of take physical manifestation, and

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for him, you know, he has those scars on his

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chest because he's always carrying like the emotional burdens of others, right,

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an interesting character. He's a very wise Guy's got some

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good one liners. Likable overall, but so definitely not I'm

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not hating on the show. I enjoyed it enough to

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rewatch it, So Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason why I like the movies is

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they answered a lot of questions that I had off

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the first season, Like in regards to those scars, we

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dealt with so many other people's syndromes, and I just

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assumed that his scars and him being in the hospital

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at that time was related to his sister, and there

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was just so much more to it, and it was

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never covered the first season. Is our main character, our goat.

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I love Sakuta, but he's helping my hel helping his sister,

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he's helping Koga, he's helping Futaba the science girl. He's

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helping everyone else get through their shit. Wow, he still

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has deeper issues himself, and that's something that the movies

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eventually dive into which I really appreciated.

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in that way, and it's one of those where it's

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like a stereotypical anime thing at surface level, so you

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don't question it too much. You're like, oh, yeah, you know,

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he's he's living alone. That makes sense. He's with his

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little sister who's very attached to him. Yeah, that makes sense.

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very beginning with a little bit of a grain of salt.

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makes sense, and it is well written in that regard.

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So have you ever seen pet Girl or Sakuraso or no.

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Speaker 1: No, I have not. Jordan, He's really the anime dude

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over here.

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Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite anime from a long

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while back that I made a why you should watch

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video on and it's by the same author as as

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Bunny Girl Simpai, So it's a it's just, you know,

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proves that the author has a track record, he knows

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what he's doing. So it's setting up these kind of

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classic cliches and tropes, but it is executing them really

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well and sticking the landing as they carry from one

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Speaker 1: So you would think as ill as I get older

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and as I watch more anime, I would become more

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of an elitist. But I feel like as time has

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went by, I have I nitpick less. Like before I

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couldn't watch English dubs. Now I could watch a dub,

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no problem. But also I remember when I first watched

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the show. I remember the science stuff kind of pissed

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me off. Like, I know, it's a physical the physical

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manifestation of like their puberty syndrome things that they're going through,

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and it's taking on like a weird supernatural form, right,

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but you don't need to overthink it. That's just leave

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it at that, right. But then the show tries to

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be like, yes, science, let me give you a comparison,

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and with the Shortener's cat one, I'm like, that's kind

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of cool. And then things keeping on doing more and more,

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and I just remember that kind of pissed me off before,

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and I like this tile like, yeah, makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta have fun with it, right, Like

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at the very beginning of this episode, I had to

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make a Schrodinger's reference just because of the bunny Girl

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SIMPI right, it kind of gets in the mood, but

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it is silly, right. It's they're throwing a bunch of

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sciencey words out there, and you know everything makes sense

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if you just throw quantum in front of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and entanglement quantum very Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like very high level views of like some science

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y stuff and it's like it doesn't really matter at

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the end of the day. No, it's more about like

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the uh, the characters and kind of what they're actually

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going through, right, like symbolically what it means.

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Speaker 1: So it just gave the science girl purpose to be

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you some type of science explanation as what this could

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like could be or a comparison to when in reality

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it's like there's two futa buzz, there's like my turns invisible,

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like how it's just so related to like their inner

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fields and what's happening to them in their life. Because

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the series starts off with the best clickbait of all time,

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my in a bunny girl outfit, which she does not

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wear for the remainder of the series. No one wears it.

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Speaker 2: Really It's not true though, No, not every time study. Yeah,

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maybe once. Just ultimate clickbait. They're like, do it in

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the first episode and we could put it on the

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title and thumbnail.

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Speaker 2: It is the ultimate clickbait. You're not wrong? Do We

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want to kind of go through each arc individually a

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little bit and just can't give thoughts just because I

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feel like it's one of those series where both the

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first time through and recently I feel like I have

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such different feelings on each arc, Like some I like

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so much more than others, but like, you know, just

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it's based kind of on the character they tackle, right.

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but I like them all quite a bit. The first

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one is still one of my favorites because it's is

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really the beginning of the relationship between my and Sakuta,

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who I am huge fans of. I just love the relationship.

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I love the trust that they have and this like

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Sakuta is just such like he just so blunt and

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like says whatever he's thinking, and I just respect it

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so much. But he's also just like actually a good

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person and like a selfless individual. But yes, it starts

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off with my being invisible and no one can see

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her other than people initially from her school, right that

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know her as a student. But for all her life

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she's been on ads and she's an actress, right, Like

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she's been photo shoots, movies, commercials, so on and so forth,

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so everyone should recognize my, but her personal persona as herself.

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doing these actor or its actress's roles and like being

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a person of interest. But when she was younger, she

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was forced to do things that her or her mother

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made her do, like bathing, suit shoes and stuff that

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she didn't like, and she like she felt like she

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was put into this world against like her own consent,

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and she quits. So now she's in this point where

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it's like she doesn't want to do what her mom says,

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even though now she kind of enjoys it. It's like,

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that you told me to do the dishes, I don't

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constantly busy, you're constantly working, and with that like comes

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like a bit of a feeling of like social isolation

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from your peers and whatnot. Right, you can't don't really

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have those those friends groups and uh and in a

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situation like that, her mom, you know, being there with

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her all the time would be that pill of support

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swimsuit any swimsuit stuff as like a middle schooler, and

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of trust there was so severe that it just kind

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of pushed her further down that uh path of like isolation, right,

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like isolation, and then I think, like as an actor

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there's also like a fear of like being forgotten, right,

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like what are you leaving behind? So so it's like

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Speaker 1: A strong start. I liked the idea, especially because like

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my being observed so much, but like personally, she doesn't,

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I feel observed. And then that now just turning invisible

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she was still remembered as a student, but slowly as

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forget her because he didn't want to forget this amazing girl.

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cringe moment where he confesses his love. It's a highlight

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of the series. In front of the whole school doing

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something so embarrassing, so over the top to make it

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people snap her back into reality. It's like, oh yeah,

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that's like, how can someone be confessing their love? Like

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this issue person doesn't exist, you know, and they all

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remember her.

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Speaker 2: I feel like those first three episodes are such a

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good introduction to Soakata as a character as well, for

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that reason you just outlined. He is such a character

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that doesn't really care what most people think. He doesn't.

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There's you know, there's a certain flow in certain social

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settings and situations and stuff, and if he doesn't like

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flow along with that, or he's kind of going against it,

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you know, he doesn't let that face him too much.

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He's kind of blocked it out. And it takes somebody

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kind of like that to to really reach out and

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pull my out of her funk, right, which is why

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she ends up kind of falling for him. And the

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banner is fun and stuff too, But I think that

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they just kind of each found each other in a

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moment where they needed somebody like the other person, right,

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So they have a very very good relationship.

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Speaker 1: And like, uh, Soko is so blunt, and he was

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able to just say, like, go back and do what

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you love, go back into the industry, like you enjoy it.

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Fuck your mom basically.

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Speaker 2: Yea, and you got to do what makes you happy,

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right like. Uh, he kind of set her back on

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that path that you know she needed to be set

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on at that point in their life. Yeah, that she

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wanted to be on. Yeah. That and weird little tangent here.

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Can I give you one of my biggest pet peeves

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in anime? Yeah, So this is a thing that, uh,

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you know, if a guy ever did this to a girl,

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we would would call him scuming, rightfully. So, but for

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some reason, anime, there's this thing where girls always end

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up drugging guys, all right, like, and we just kind

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of let it happen. Mi just drugged him in that

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first episode. You just slip stuff into his drink to

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make him fall asleep. Yeah, she did it because she can.

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Speaker 1: But that's why would you do that again?

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Speaker 2: And I only bring that up because you made me

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rewatch the movie and like, well as I was watching

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the movie so close together, he also got drugged in

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that movie, And I'm like, why do people keep drugging

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this man.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep on boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so sad, so weird, little side tangent from

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my boy Sokata.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we move on to the next arc, which

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I do think is not as good, but it still

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has an amazing ending to the arc. I believe this

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is where we get into Cooga, the classmate who they

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he like our main character pretends to date for a

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little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kohai oh man by letting him go through

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with that. Yeah. So Coga is I feel like the

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exact opposite of Sokata in a lot of ways. Where

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he doesn't really care about the flow and what other

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people think, she really cares about what other people think.

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And she has like like that fear of not fitting

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in and because that like she kind of avoid It's

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she like avoids tough topics and tough decisions and and

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things that would have consequences.

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Speaker 1: Right. It was so crazy, like she'd have to stop

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mid sentence to like reply to people as quickly as possible.

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She didn't want to make it look like she wasn't

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like replying. She would literally do homework to watch all

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the memes and videos that our friends are talking about,

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so she could stay in the loop that she was

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so doing so much to fit in and care about

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what other people are thinking, which is so I'm glad

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you pointed that out so opposite to our main character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those things where like

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there probably are a lot of kids like that, right,

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they feel that need to fit in, and we kind

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of see that manifest via the time loop, right, Like

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if she doesn't, she kind of fears the repercussions of

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things going wrong, you know, she doesn't want to face that.

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She's never going to write it has like a little

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simulation type thing of none of that really happened. It

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was all just like a what it right? So yeah, yeah,

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it's it's an interesting arc. I actually enjoyed it quite

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a bit, although I wouldn't say she's like one of

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my favorite characters by any means. She's just kind of

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there a lot of the time.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I wasn't super in I wasn't

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super infested in this one. It was repeating day, Like

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I just I really after going through something with our

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main character. In my our main character and this girl

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who like they're doing a pretend relationship for like the

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appeasement of like others in a way, and for her

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it just had a little bit of a disconnect. But

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the ending where she was she was making it seem

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like she didn't remember that they were looping and tomorrow

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Groundhog Day was not coming. Also groundhound like the days

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is a cool supernatural thing as well, but like she

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made it seem like it wasn't happening, but she really

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did know. She was just hoping that after like a

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dozen dates, twenty dates, fifty dates, one hundred dates of

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repeating the same day, that he would eventually fall for

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her the way that she had fallen for him, because

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she really did have feelings for him, and she was

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hoping after eight thousand repeating days that he would eventually

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fall for her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an unquidded love and she just didn't

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really want to face that right, Like she just like

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maybe if I try enough times or buy enough lottery tickets,

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maybe uh, something will change. But you know, it just

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was not meant to be.

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Speaker 1: So I think my favorite he was Lazarus Demon or whatever,

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Lapslist's demon or whatever, where he kept unrolling the dice

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repeating days over and over again, trying to get the

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optimal all come, but something was really cute and beautiful

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about it but also fucked up. I don't know, I

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liked it.

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite part about this arc is kind

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of how it started, and you know, by the end

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you kind of right back to where it started because

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it was like nothing none of it ever happened. But

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uh it's just him actually asking out my and like

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her saying yes, and then it's like, oh, shoot, that

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didn't happen. So he has to have those steps over

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and over again. So even in this arc, mine was

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the one that shined right love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, My favorite was definitely the ending, but that was

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that was everything, like, oh no, they finally dated. How's

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he going to fuck this up now that he has

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another chance?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, and luckily he did it.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving, can we do? We need a

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couple of devies. So going into the next arc, I

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believe here going into foota buzz arc.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So this is one I didn't really like

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the most whenever I first watched it, and even now,

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like it's probably still my least favorite, but uh, I

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think it does a good job of like tackling her,

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like she seems like a very genuine person helping out

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her friends throughout those first two arcs. But even with

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that and stuff like, she has a bit of an

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identity crisis as far as she's growing up, she's going

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through puberty, boys are kind of looking at her a

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little bit differently, and like trying to balance those two,

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like the authentic self part of herself and then the

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part that kind of wants attention, and trying to kind

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of balance those apart, it causes that rift that like

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basically splits her into two. Right, So, yeah, I wasn't

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really a big fan of this arc. You know, she

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has a crush on a guy as a girlfriend, and

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I felt like somehow they tackled that was a bit rough.

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Like I was like, now, she shouldn't be confessing in

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a situation like that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just such a character driven person where like,

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arguably this arc should be worse than the one with Coga,

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But because I like more than Coga, I like this

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arc better. Like if I like the characters, I pay

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attention more and I'm more invested, and just the way

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it is.

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Speaker 2: I know that makes sense, as are about the characters,

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right right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Then, So like, because I liked her as a character.

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I'm more invested in her version of puberty syndrome, where

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she had one version that was being a little bit

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more reserved and one version that was like doing anything

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for attention, And it was because like what would you

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say the reason, like what was her existential thing? Like

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obviously she liked speak, she had a crush on a

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guy who had a who has a girlfriend, But I

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think it was also there was also more than that

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to it. I just wish I could remember. I haven't

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watched it as as recently as you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was one where she like kind

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of wanted his attention a little bit, like she was

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seeking a little bit of validation there, but also you know,

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she also wants authenticity and be her true self, and yeah,

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that's not that's kind of a I don't know, there's

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parts of growing up right there and stuff where she

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wasn't really quite even recognizing herself with like some of

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the things she had the temptation to do, right, So

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she just kind of had to eventually accept all those

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aspects of herself there by the end, and even if

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even if they were kind of in conflict, was my

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was my takeaway.

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Speaker 1: And also yeah, at the same time, it's like, Sokuta

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just got my as a girlfriend, and yeah, our other

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guy has a girlfriend. So now she probably feels like,

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oh shit, I don't have a partner or I'm gonna

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lose my friends along the way as well. I'm like

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the girl third wheeling. That's like, yeah, but that's a

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girl welcome anymore anymore?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, another aspect of like, you know, a little

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bit of social social or isolation a little bit in

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that regard as far as she didn't really have very

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many other friends, right and whenever.

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Speaker 1: Her parents were around either, like she just felt alone.

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Yeah anything, Yeah, this art better than I remember after.

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Speaker 2: Talking attention to that one a little bit more than

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I did.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I just not as I didn't watch it

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as recently.

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Speaker 2: It's no good. I enjoyed it more this most recent

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time than I did the first time around it right,

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first time, I didn't quite understand it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know entire type of doge that I read

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when I was dude or something when this first came out,

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because I remembered Futabau wearing a bunny girl outfit and

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as I was rewatching it, I'm like he never put

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it on What the hell? I must have read something

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ten years maybe maybe came out. What did this just come

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out five years ago?

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Speaker 2: It came out back in like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

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something like that. I mean glance, Yeah, twenty eighteen for.

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Speaker 1: The first season, six or seven years ago.

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Speaker 2: So I was in college whenever this came out, and

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I remember, like I remember enjoying it. But I feel

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like there's something about growing up and actually being an

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adult where you go back and rewatch something like this

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and you kind of appreciate it on a different level, right, Yeah,

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Like you kind of see what these kids are going through,

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and you're like able to look down and like observe

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it better or more objectively, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's why I was able

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to maybe appreciate because I also I'm at a point

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where like a lot of my friends are getting married

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and having kids and just not being even like me, Lauren,

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like love to have fun and do things. But I'm

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starting to get to an age where like eleven o'clock

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rolls around and all my buddies are time to go.

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I'm like, it's a Saturday, you could stay till twelve.

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So I just also starting to feel like a people

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are getting girlfriends and lives are getting changing, Like you

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start to like feel a little bit more isolated from people.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Worre's Rico on he's out touching grass, Marcus, this.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it will become unrelatable. Can you imagine touching grass

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or at least I can't. Right, Like me and Jordan Byer,

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I feel recognize anymore.

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Speaker 1: Feeling isolated while other people are touching grass. We are

476
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,720
food to that. All right, Let's move on to Noko

477
00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:56,759
Noka Nodica, which is my sister, and they have a

478
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:58,559
swap of bodies and they had to live in each

479
00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:02,759
other's lives. I appreciated that my it didn't come easy

480
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,599
to her. She had to work her ass off to

481
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,519
do what Nodica was able to do and Notdoka, who

482
00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,279
was struggling in the end, was able to pull off

483
00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:12,640
what my was doing as well, just showing that, like

484
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,039
they both have potential in their own different ways. But

485
00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:17,640
really it kind of resolved to a similar thing of

486
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,759
emotions where I feel like Nodoka felt like her sister

487
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,160
hated her, and she kind of hated her sister and

488
00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,400
was like resentful because her mom always viewed her as

489
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,720
being like the older sister that's so good and notaicup

490
00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:33,000
wasn't living to her level. And I feel like through

491
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,000
the bond of my and Nodoica and like their friendship

492
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:40,079
and sisterhood coming closer together, she they were able to

493
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,319
resolve their issue. So it was a combination of a

494
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,319
couple of things, like her proving to herself that she

495
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,319
could do something that mine did, but also realizing that

496
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,240
like they actually love each other and don't hate each other,

497
00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:50,920
I think with a good step.

498
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd never really quite opened up to each other

499
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,480
on that level, or she didn't quite know what my

500
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000
thoughts were on her. So, you know, as as we

501
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,359
set up the art after this and whatnot, we see

502
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,400
like a lot of different you know, siblings kind of

503
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,440
exploring their relationships, and the one between her and my

504
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119
is one where she's always been a little bit she

505
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,000
She loves my, she adores her, she looks up to her,

506
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,359
admires her, but she's also a little bit envious, right

507
00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:19,960
just because of the resentment of like their parents putting

508
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480
those comparisons on them. And uh, I think that's kind

509
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:25,400
of the driving force of it, right is whenever you're

510
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,599
a younger sibling or something, and your your parents always

511
00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:32,079
expect you to act like your other sibling or that.

512
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,200
You know, those expectations can kind of drive a little

513
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,440
bit of a wedge of her resentment, even if it

514
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,079
wasn't their prior. So yeah, seeing that kind of takes

515
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,720
shape and then seeing that my you know, at the

516
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:48,200
at the beginning, she was kind of lying saying yeah,

517
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,240
like I hate you too and stuff like that. But

518
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,039
by the end she sees my really does cherish her

519
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,559
like as a sister, and it's not really their relationship

520
00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,440
doesn't have to be defined by like how their parents

521
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,960
compare them, right or anything like that. She's like, I'll

522
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,559
just stay with you for a bit, give it some

523
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:07,079
time to you know, give some time to boil over

524
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,839
with my mom, and we'll each tackle kind of what

525
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,319
we have, what we have our own goals and aspirations for.

526
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: So, I think what could have made this arc a

527
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,079
little bit better is while Nodoka was in my body,

528
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:26,839
when she finally achieved like saying the lines properly, getting

529
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,640
some type of positive reinforcement from the mother. Even this,

530
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240
she to work a text message like good job or something

531
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,759
I think would have been like because she got her

532
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,039
own self fulfillment by doing it, but I think it

533
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,359
would have also added to it if she was able

534
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
to get some praise while being my. I think that

535
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,960
would have taken it a step further.

536
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's part of what really hurt and

537
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,519
stuff was that she never really heard very much praise

538
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,680
from her mom. But after they switched, and you know,

539
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,720
my was able to do what she does but does

540
00:24:55,759 --> 00:25:01,240
but better you know her mom was praising her, and uh,

541
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,279
I think seeing that from the outside that really hurt Noica,

542
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,279
Like she felt like she wasn't good enough.

543
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: For exactly and that's why it's like, I think a

544
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,160
good ending to it would have been like obviously like

545
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,519
the the healing of the sisters and their friendship, but

546
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,000
also I think like just like a text message from

547
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,599
the mom saying like, good job on something while Notica

548
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:25,039
is being my. Yeah. Well, even though even though it

549
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:27,160
took her ten attempts, what do you think they have?

550
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,279
Speaker 2: They have different so they have different moms and stuff, right,

551
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,799
so it's like it'd be weird to reach out to

552
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,440
my and and things like that. But that's that's the

553
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,079
thing that their half sisters a right, Like they didn't

554
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,160
grow up together. It was one where she, uh, she

555
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,759
suddenly had a new sister, and it was once she

556
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:44,039
already admired and she was kind of living in her shadow.

557
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Is like being compared to her all the time, getting

558
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:47,680
roles that she like they're both.

559
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:53,039
Speaker 1: But I feel that that step mom or whatever used

560
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,279
to praise my to Nodica all the time, like she

561
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,200
would talk, yeah, why can't you be more like my?

562
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,440
My so amazing exactly she's doing this, She's up to

563
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,200
date on a hall all her things. So I don't

564
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,480
think it would have been like that out of the

565
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,119
ordinary for like her to send her a text message.

566
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like mom had a little bit of a competition

567
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480
type thing going and they kind of use their daughters

568
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,359
to kind of pushed that. And I will say a

569
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,319
little bit of an olive branch. I think you're describing

570
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,440
it towards the very end is since Nodoka, did you

571
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,960
know she did run away to go start living with

572
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,960
my like whenever this happened, because you know, they one,

573
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,519
there was the turmoil with the mom but too, like

574
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,200
you know, you can't really necessarily go about your life

575
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,680
with the whole body swap thing. Going. I think the

576
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960
mom was genuinely just worried about her as a parent

577
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960
would be right if your daughter suddenly, you know, is

578
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,319
not home, she's you know, staying with her half sister,

579
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,319
like you don't know where she's at, what she's doing.

580
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:48,759
I think there was concern from the mom, and seeing

581
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,519
that her mom actually was concerned about her was that

582
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,039
it was something that helped there at the end of

583
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,640
the arc as well. Right like she she just assumed

584
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,920
like she wouldn't really care or be worried or anything

585
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,720
because she hadn't seen that that from her yet.

586
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:05,599
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? Okay? Moving on to the final little arc.

587
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,599
This is with Kaide, the little sister of our main character,

588
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,319
and it doesn't like fully cover it. Can we get

589
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,640
a whole movie on Kayde, But it's just her trying

590
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,359
to like because she got bullied as a kid and

591
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,519
then she lost her memories through some puberty syndrome to

592
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,079
kay I just forget what happened, and she became a

593
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,279
hit kamori who doesn't leave her house, and she was

594
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,599
scared of the outside, scared of social interaction. Basically, her

595
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,559
big brother kind of ended up be coming like her

596
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,079
dad in a way because with this new version of

597
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Kyde and her memories, she really only talked and associated

598
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:44,960
with with Sakuta for like two years until my and

599
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,160
Nodoka and other people started to enter the picture. Slowly

600
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:50,559
she started to talk with others, but she didn't leave

601
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,000
her house. So you have cute scenes like her hugging

602
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,039
her brother's back and slowly walking outside and the little

603
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:00,240
things like that. But I did have a few. Only

604
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,640
at the end of this season. The two things kind

605
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,039
of didn't get concluded. One was Kaide We got a

606
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,359
little bit of thing, and I want you to talk

607
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,759
about that because he probably a better better memory than me.

608
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,640
We have Kaida's art that didn't feel concluded to me.

609
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,799
And we had Choko Chan, which was just like person

610
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,680
that our main character said saved him, right, it was

611
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,119
this girl who saved him. And then he sees her

612
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,880
again in this season as a child, and then he

613
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960
rescues a cat and said, you could come visit whatever

614
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,559
whenever to visit the cat because your parents won't let

615
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,440
you take the cat in whatever. And he keeps on

616
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:36,839
saying like there's a child version and an adult version,

617
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,839
but he's the only one who's seen the adult version

618
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,480
or like the high school version or whatever. And it

619
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,720
just it seems like both times that he was in

620
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,839
need back then and even towards the end of the season,

621
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,440
this older choko chan appeared. Both times that he was

622
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,319
in need of some type of comfort, he needed a

623
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,599
person to console him, she appeared. So at this point,

624
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,160
I'm like, this should even fucking exist. Is it a

625
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,160
figment of his imagination? Is it some type of syndrome? A.

626
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's confusing too, because he like he meets

627
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,319
her as like a middle schooler. Yeah, and like the

628
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,680
middle school her and the high school her are obviously

629
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440
like very they're they're different, but they're the same name,

630
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,960
same Yeah, Like they're the same person, but they're also different,

631
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,160
and like trying to figure that out is a weird thing.

632
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have each other's memories, like the Little One

633
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680
had no recollection of that, right, or.

634
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: At least they didn't let on if they did, right exactly,

635
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,160
And uh, yeah, it's it's setting all. That's the thing

636
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,200
about this series is every arc we've discussed, it might

637
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,359
focus one character, but it's always setting up kind of

638
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,039
what comes after m m. Yeah. And so this art

639
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,839
did a good job of setting that up and then honestly,

640
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160
I love I love it tackling what happened with Kaye.

641
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,279
I think it's one of my favorite arcs. But I

642
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:53,079
will have a I have a little bit of a

643
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,319
not a correction, but like some food for thought on

644
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,960
how to approach it, because while this art does focus

645
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,119
on Kayaka, I think does the series does a good

646
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,039
job of treating like the kaya Da from this arc

647
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:05,119
and the kaya Da from the movie as like two

648
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,200
different people, right yeah, because they are like they have

649
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,039
different quirks and mannerisms, they have different memories, like the

650
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240
Kayada that he's known for like these past two years

651
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
of living together that that's like, you know, she came

652
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,279
to be from like having no memories. She she was

653
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:21,920
just kind of woke up in the hospital and like,

654
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400
I don't know what's wrong. It kind of drove her

655
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,759
mom crazy. Like she's been going through a lot, and

656
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,480
she still has that like fear of the outside world

657
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,559
and everything going on there. She has that like U

658
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,400
in some way, but she doesn't have like any direct

659
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,039
memories for that, right, So it's it's like she's like

660
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,640
her own little person and she's technically fifteen at the

661
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,720
start of the series when we when we meet her,

662
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,279
But like if you just got your memories from uh

663
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,680
you know, like just started having the memories like two

664
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,519
years ago. Like there's a reason she acts so much

665
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,440
younger than that, right, Like she acts like a little

666
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,680
kid a lot of the time. So yeah, seeing her, like,

667
00:30:57,559 --> 00:30:59,200
you know, she has like a she's like basically a

668
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,279
physical man if a state of like psychological trauma just

669
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:06,079
from all this cyber bullying and things like that. Right,

670
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Like she just completely shuts herself off and just uh

671
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,720
it just isn't really able to face it, right, so

672
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,880
that that that manifests through her just being her own.

673
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I just I'm a different person. I have a bad memory,

674
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,559
and I can't remember what was covered in this little

675
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,960
arc at the end, these last two episodes or last

676
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,160
three episodes, versus what is covered in the movie. Like

677
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
I know what's covered the movie for the most part,

678
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,039
but I don't know if I gotta want to spoil

679
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,039
things that happened in this ending arc, you know, No, Yeah.

680
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,079
Speaker 2: You're the movie would mainly focus the first movie would

681
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,359
mainly focus on Shoko. But yeah, the second movie, the

682
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,519
first season, now, the first movie, the Dreaming of a

683
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,119
dreaming girl.

684
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I know, did you did you watch the second movie?

685
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,799
Speaker 2: I watched all the movies. Yeah, there's three of them.

686
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: Just three of them. One of them focuses on Kyo and.

687
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the second one focuses on Kyade. But that's

688
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,240
the that would be like the sister that basically lost

689
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,960
a two year gap in memory, right, that like he

690
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:00,519
kind of grew up with, so I would I would

691
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,279
view that as like a different Kayte.

692
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, it does. Her memories come back

693
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,519
like right away.

694
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: So it comes back. It comes back at the end

695
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,119
of the first season.

696
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,359
Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that Like?

697
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has that like traumatic response of like running

698
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,279
through the rain and stuff, because on one hand he's

699
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,000
happy that, you know, his his sister's back, but on

700
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,880
the other hand, he's been like the emotional support for

701
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440
this new sister essentially for like two years now, right,

702
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,079
and he's gotten to know her and spend a lot

703
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:32,480
of time with her over the years, like they've been

704
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,640
really close because they were all each other had. So

705
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240
he basically lost a sibling basically at the end of

706
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640
the first season, as he tried to Yeah, it was

707
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,799
the death of that character and it was him trying

708
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:47,400
to process that loss, right and try to try to

709
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
deal with that grief. And it is a weird grief too,

710
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,240
because it's not just a loss so like it it's

711
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,960
mixed with like the happiness of also having his other

712
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,519
sister back, and it's a weird emotion to try to process. Right.

713
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was being so vague. I thought

714
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,559
that happened at the beginning of the movie for some reason.

715
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,920
So it happened. So what ends up happening is he

716
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,640
works with his sister to help her get over, Like

717
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,960
he spent two years with his sister or whatever, doing things,

718
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,400
slowly building her up, whatever, spending having all these different

719
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,799
moments and doing all these things with her. Toward the

720
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,079
end of the season, they're going to the zoo. They're

721
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,039
trying to get to school for the first time to

722
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,039
like so she could experience that because she hasn't been

723
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:26,160
to school in so long, and they were working on things,

724
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,200
and finally when they kind of made a step forward

725
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,559
where Kaide was ready to go back to her old

726
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:39,279
life in a way, boom, old Kaide returns. All those

727
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,079
two years of memories and relationship building gone that Kaide

728
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,880
is essentially dead, right, yea, and our main character has

729
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,079
this mental breakdown, running in the rain crying depressed, and

730
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,839
Choko chn the middle school now in middle school, the

731
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,880
high school version appears to comfort him, and she doesn't

732
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,799
really age from the last time we saw her at

733
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,719
this point in the sort series. In this season, we

734
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,519
still have a high school version of Choco, and that's

735
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:15,360
the same version from many years ago when he needed

736
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,679
her last which was an interesting little catch. I do

737
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,000
believe we get a college version of Choco John later

738
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,440
on in the movie, but right now it's like the

739
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,039
same version. And it was just a wild ending. I

740
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,599
thought it happened in the movies. I didn't want to

741
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,639
spoil it, but this was one of my favorite arts,

742
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,440
I'd say, so.

743
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's a weird thing too because I didn't

744
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,480
catch this the first time. But I think it's one

745
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:41,360
of those things where she kind of aged at like

746
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,199
the same rate as him from like acut To first

747
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:45,639
seen her in like in high school, and then like

748
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,679
two years or whatever passes by, and I think she's

749
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,760
like technically like two years older looking whenever we see

750
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
her again. But yeah, the whole Shoko thing is is uh,

751
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,440
it's a little bit confusing. Yeah, but that's the whole

752
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:58,159
first movie.

753
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, they described her I believe it the the middle

754
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,760
school version of the high school version, and like the

755
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,800
college version. And yeah, the first time I remember them

756
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,880
saying the college version was in the movie. But then again,

757
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,440
my memory is all messed up. So like at the

758
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,000
end of the season, it's like it didn't seem like

759
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,000
she aged.

760
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she basically looks the same. Yeah. I like

761
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,280
to think of it as like past, present and future

762
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:22,280
her right, But again, the Sciancy stuff isn't too important.

763
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,239
It's just well you kind of conclude that first season

764
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,599
with her seeing him helping him through that tough time

765
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:30,840
with Kayatee because he's having to process all that grief,

766
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,960
and then him and my kind of having a bit

767
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,159
of a moment where she wants to be that crutch

768
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:38,880
that he leans on because she cares for him and

769
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,199
they're in a relationship, and you know, she wants to

770
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,119
she wants to be there for him, and then that

771
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,039
whole conflict is kind of where we end that first

772
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,599
season if I remember correctly.

773
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: And then we start off with the first show Covi

774
00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:01,400
Shoku Machin O'Hara arc. It's something something something Rascal dreaming Girl.

775
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,559
This is the dreaming Girl.

776
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,119
Speaker 2: One Rascal does not dream of, but dreaming Girl or

777
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:06,119
something to that effect.

778
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 1: So this covers volume six and seven of the Light Novels.

779
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,679
I think this is probably the best movie of the three.

780
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: I think the When We Got over Here, like cause

781
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,519
I remember it was in theaters and everybody loved it. Right,

782
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:19,920
it was a little bit longer than the other ones

783
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,400
as well.

784
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Seemed like this one made sense to make into a movie. Wow.

785
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,760
Don't get me wrong. The other two were also good.

786
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,480
I like them both, but they just felt like three

787
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,760
episodes of an anime like this, Yet Rascal does not

788
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,800
dream of Dreaming Girl, Sister venturing out and knapsa kid.

789
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,119
They could have just made a twelve episode series.

790
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the thing is the author does a does

791
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,559
an interesting job of like titling the Light Novels where

792
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,400
it's never titled like volume one, volume two, it's like

793
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,000
literally the name of each arc or whatever. Like Rascal

794
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,440
does not dream of Funny Girl, SIMPI, Rascal does not

795
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,159
dream of X. Like that's the Those are each like

796
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:01,159
their own volume, right, like their own book, and we

797
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,079
kind of see those adapted into arcs in the first

798
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,719
season and then adapted into movies in those like middle three. Right, So.

799
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: The Dreaming Girl one took up two novels that.

800
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: That would make sense to me. I haven't read them myself.

801
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,840
I'm just uh yeah, going based on the titles. But

802
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,639
but yeah, that that would make sense. It was a

803
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,719
big arc, right. It was definitely the one that feels

804
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,079
most like a movie for sure.

805
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: Especially like with the ending and everything. It just it

806
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,679
really did feel like a movie. There's so much stuff

807
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,480
that happens, and I'm trying to remember here and I

808
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,159
don't know if you want to take the take the range, yeah, Jordan.

809
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like in this movie and stuff, we we

810
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:41,480
find out that show Goo has been hospitalized. She has

811
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,960
a hard issue. She's in middle school. This is the

812
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
middle school version of her, right, and uh, and we

813
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,119
see her puberty syndrome kind of take place based on

814
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,320
like a thing on the future she filled out back

815
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,280
in elementary school. It's like where do you what do

816
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,320
you want to do in the future? Right?

817
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,559
Speaker 1: What do you?

818
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: Where do you see yourself? And for her having this

819
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,079
illness and disease that she's been going through, where she

820
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,360
might not mean like a heart transplant and stuff. It

821
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,480
was hard for her to like even picture her future, right,

822
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,760
so you know, this thing keeps getting filled out a

823
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,119
little bit, and uh, she's like hospitalized as like a

824
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,920
middle school version, but also her her high school version

825
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,679
keeps having all these high school slash college with the

826
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,920
future version keeps having all these interactions with a with Soakuta,

827
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,840
right as uh as the things that they do end

828
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,519
up getting filled out on that elementary like wish list

829
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:36,199
if you will, like the plans for the future. So yeah,

830
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,599
it's a it's a bit of an interesting art in

831
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:41,880
that regard where I don't know if you want to

832
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,360
chime in a little bit more before we go on,

833
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,880
like the big twist or whatever. But there's a reason

834
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,599
his scar that he has on his chest only really

835
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,199
reacts whenever thatail that.

836
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: I really like that detail because in the beginning of

837
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440
the series, we knew that Kaydie was going through something

838
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,960
with her syndrome. Also he had the scars when it

839
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,440
happened and then shown appeared, and then the same thing

840
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,480
happened at the end of this year at the end

841
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,320
of the first season as well, and you think it

842
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,639
has something to do with him, and it does, but

843
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:16,599
it's also directly connected to Chocotron, which is why she appears.

844
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:21,480
She appears when he was in need. But also Dwighton

845
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:22,639
wanted to say the twist.

846
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like his heart from from dying and stuff

847
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,639
is uh, got transferred to her, and that's why there's

848
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,719
a future version of her that exists, right, So it's

849
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,079
like they have the same part existing in that in

850
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,840
that time period, with her being the one that kind

851
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,719
of kind of came back, right. So yeah, it's it's

852
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
a very interesting concept because a lot of times when

853
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,199
a series has like time travel or something, they try

854
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,880
to tie it in like a neat little bow or

855
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,159
try to you know, and a lot of times it's

856
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,639
hard to do, right. Time travel stuff is hard to do.

857
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,400
But in this case, it's basically saying that everything we've

858
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,159
seen in the series up to this point is a

859
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,840
like like a like a simulation kind of by the

860
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,800
elementary school her of like possibilities, right, So it's like

861
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,320
not really happening, but it's like this is that's why

862
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,760
they're able to kind of go back and forth and

863
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,079
change things a little bit willy nilly. But yeah, basically

864
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,039
she's trying she doesn't want him to die for her,

865
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,599
right like she she cares for him too. She's she's

866
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:22,119
trying to be selfless and so she tries to lead

867
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,960
him away from that to go about his life. And uh,

868
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,440
and then he wants he wants to sacrifice himself for her.

869
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,199
So everybody's being very self sacrificial and.

870
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Uh, literally everybody in this one, yeah, because.

871
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Some people around them are going to get hurt as

872
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,199
a result, right.

873
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: Literally everyone. Sokuta is being such a good friend to

874
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Choko because Shoko was there for him as her future self,

875
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920
but she was he was there for her in the hospital.

876
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,760
He ends up giving his heart when he ends up

877
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,599
getting hit by a car or something one day. His

878
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,239
heart was used to save her, but she wanted to

879
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,840
continue living. But she also didn't want her friend to die,

880
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:02,039
which complicated things. And then Sakuta is like, fuck it anyway,

881
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,199
I'm gonna jump in from like I'm gonna still go

882
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239
to where I shouldn't be going. So I still get

883
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,880
hit by that car to make sure reality does happen

884
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:10,880
the way that it did happen.

885
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he doesn't want to change things, right, but

886
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,880
I do love that. There's like there's that conflict in

887
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,320
him because he loves my and you know, my sitting

888
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,559
there begging him like, don't do this. Don't talk to

889
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,440
everybody like you're saying goodbye, like even if you think

890
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,039
you're supposed to die, and stuff like, don't do this

891
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:28,360
to me, like I'll bear this burden with you. And uh,

892
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,639
there is a part of him that like has those

893
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:32,840
doubts of like I don't want to die, like I

894
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,360
don't like I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna have

895
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,760
to tell her no, and then you know, eventually he

896
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,639
does give in. He is that self sacrificing.

897
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: He has that characteristic I do want to say them.

898
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,320
So someone in chat Marcus said, I hate that he

899
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,880
cared more for Choco than my and that's just not true.

900
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,559
He didn't care more for Choco than my. It's one

901
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:55,599
of those things where he he felt like they're changing

902
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,920
reality and like if he's choosing to not do what

903
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,960
already was supposed to happen, in a way, he's making

904
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,039
a kid that he cares for die. Yeah, it's like

905
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,719
he was supposed to die and save this girl in

906
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,599
the process, and now she's being like, no, save yourself instead.

907
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,599
That's a hard thing. You're essentially killing a child in

908
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,960
a way, or choosing to live over a child, which

909
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,480
he's not choosing, saying he cares more for her than my.

910
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
He's just choosing to do what was kind of already

911
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,440
supposed to happen and not cause a child that he

912
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,639
cares for to die. But what's fucked up is he

913
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,599
has this beautiful relationship with my and mine wants him

914
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,559
to care for himself and love himself and not die

915
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:41,519
because you love each other. Now you lost me, Okay,

916
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,840
He's like, I'm just saying, it's like, it is confusing technically,

917
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:49,800
technically what was supposed to happen was he was supposed

918
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,800
to get hit by a car. But then future version

919
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,800
of Shoko says, don't do it. I don't want you

920
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,480
to die, and he's just like, it's a tough situation,

921
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:59,280
Like it's a moral dilemma where he he loves my,

922
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,880
he cares, he wants to keep on living. He struggles

923
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,840
with it, but he also doesn't want to be responsible

924
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,119
for this kid dying in a way.

925
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,119
Speaker 2: H Yeah, that's the that's the tough thing that a

926
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:13,320
lot of archetype characters in this archetype usually end up

927
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,400
facing is whenever they're very self sacrificing and have this

928
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:19,400
bit of a hero complex of like putting everybody else

929
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,880
above themselves, they don't cherish themselves enough to realize, Hey,

930
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,760
the people around you also care about you, right, yeah,

931
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,639
and they would they would care if you die. And

932
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,639
it's Mine tries to kind of pull put that into him, like, hey,

933
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,960
I probably love you way more than you love me. Yes,

934
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:37,039
And she shows that via like she's literally willing to

935
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,760
give her life for him, and speaking she's so good

936
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,320
ones on the other foot, right, like, it's not fun

937
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,199
to be that guy that that had somebody sacrifice themselves

938
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,559
for you, and then you have to go on living

939
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:46,320
with that, right.

940
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: So, speaking of self sacrifice, Mine literally pushes him out

941
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,639
of the way, sacrifices herself and like you said, now

942
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,320
he gets to live in a world without my right,

943
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,239
which he was essentially going to do to her when

944
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,360
he sacrifices himself, right. And everyone has so much self

945
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,719
sacrifice in this movie. I think this movie was the

946
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,840
best out of the three, but I do wish so

947
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,039
I don't think we got like a really final solid

948
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,559
explanation for the ending. What ends up happening is Sokuta

949
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:24,360
upon upon my sacrificing yourself gets one more attempt, I guess,

950
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,239
and both my and him survive. They both live. But

951
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,920
then in the end we see a young Choco chron

952
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,880
by the sea, which was a little We get an

953
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,079
explanation for it later, but I don't think we get

954
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:38,679
it in this movie, which I wish we got a

955
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,519
little bit of it in this movie.

956
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: I think it explained it in the movie. So it uh,

957
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,280
it's it's kind of like I said, it's kind of

958
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360
a weird, confusing thing where everything was based off of

959
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,559
like the elementary schoolers, uh, her.

960
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,199
Speaker 1: List of what she wanted to do, and like, yeah.

961
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: They basically undid everything with like the belief that even

962
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:03,559
without Showcochon being like a active influence on their life,

963
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,280
that like they still would have met and still would

964
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,000
have had all these other experiences. And basically that's kind

965
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,079
of what happens, right, is none of that stuff that

966
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:12,840
we saw throughout the series happened, but then it still

967
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,400
did just without the show co Chun stuff, like she

968
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,360
wasn't a part of it. Everything. Basically everything we've seen

969
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,199
was like a simulation of the future, but.

970
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: They did they keep the right because I know My

971
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,840
was able to somehow be influenced enough and care enough

972
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,519
to choose to do a movie that raised a bunch

973
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:33,039
of money for like her exact situation.

974
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a subconscious thing where they don't have those

975
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,320
specific memories. And I think that that's kind of what's

976
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,199
typed a little bit later and stuff is uh, Shoko,

977
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:45,679
you know, Choko's the only one that really remembers that.

978
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,519
She remembers it. They don't, but he like he has

979
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:53,480
this like inkling and like probably like tidbits of like

980
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,039
like I know her and and whatnot things like that. Right,

981
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,679
they still feel close. They were still influenced and impacted

982
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,960
by it. Everybody had those dreams of like what that

983
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:05,559
experience was like. But uh but yeah, but yeah, it

984
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:07,960
didn't actually happen or did something to.

985
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,519
Speaker 1: See her like like she she felt like My felt

986
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,000
like she needed to star on this movie, right, and

987
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,440
then they made doncasions and stuff. Did that happen in

988
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,280
this movie or was it like teased in the next.

989
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: One very end? And then I think it also uh

990
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,519
kind of trailed into a lot of them, like the

991
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,800
ending credit scene or like the very last scene that

992
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,760
you see will trail and be like the very start

993
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,639
of the next movies. Like, it all does flow together

994
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:32,159
pretty well.

995
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: So I remember seeing it in another movie and in

996
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,079
my head, I'm was like, especially after watching The Sister

997
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,800
Venturing Out and Knapsack, Yeah, I kind of think it

998
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,519
would have been better as a season of anime than

999
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:44,400
as three movies.

1000
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all flows together so well with some stuff

1001
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,559
setting up other things that it's one of those reasons, uh,

1002
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,199
like I could see it being all movies. But at

1003
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,800
the same time, it does flow fort pretty well together

1004
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,079
as a as a season, right, Like, I think that

1005
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,639
all could have very well been a season and probably

1006
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,400
best to just treat it as one, right like, just

1007
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,760
let it carry into the next because at the very

1008
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,840
beginning of the Sister movie that we see that conversation

1009
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,039
with Schocou kind of in the in the restaurant right

1010
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:12,280
where they're kind of exploring that.

1011
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I also want to point out to the

1012
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,400
boys in chat who were they made the Marcus made

1013
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,400
the comment that he wasn't he cared more for struggle

1014
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,679
than my and I just don't think that's anyway a reality.

1015
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,679
We could remember our main protagonist. It also has his

1016
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,679
own struggles. I feel like he does this thing of

1017
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,599
self sacrifice for himself as well. And we haven't had

1018
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:36,239
his arc I thine.

1019
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,199
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people like that too.

1020
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have little little bits of his development and

1021
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,960
like his story, but for the most part, the first

1022
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,639
season covered all these different girls and him helping them,

1023
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,599
and the first movie stays on that note with Choco Tron,

1024
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:58,760
and we his stuff within it, like his depression, his

1025
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:01,480
like when he is my We got a bunch of

1026
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:04,519
stuff that he goes through. Even when Kayde goes back

1027
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,039
and gets her memories back, we get him going through things,

1028
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:11,760
but we didn't get him actually dealing with his own syndrome,

1029
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,599
his own development yet. So I think it's still a

1030
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,639
very Obviously all these characters are flawed, but he hasn't

1031
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,679
gotten to the point where I feel like he's at

1032
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,079
that level to like make these bright choices, if that

1033
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:24,559
makes sense.

1034
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you haven't watched the movies yet, that's

1035
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,599
why when we're going to talk about here in a bit,

1036
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,599
Knapsack Kid, I'd say that's the first one that kind

1037
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,800
of focuses on him, probably more than anybody, right, Yeah,

1038
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,000
So we could get a lot of that kind of

1039
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,239
explained on his mentality and stuff. But yeah, it's it's

1040
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,239
weird because it's not he doesn't really I do hear

1041
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,360
that complain a lot throughout the entirety of the first season,

1042
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,199
right he there's times where it doesn't feel like he's

1043
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239
prioritizing mine and the way that he should, and that's

1044
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,400
definitely a character flaw. Like, you know, even helping out

1045
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,199
his co high, he he does so in a way

1046
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,360
that kind of puts mine in like a tough situation,

1047
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,000
right like where I'm having to pretend to go out

1048
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,639
with this girl, et cetera. All these things are gonna

1049
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,320
be tough on her. Yeah, she's for powering through it,

1050
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
but uh, at the same time, it's just him trying

1051
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,360
to He doesn't care about himself enough, but he like,

1052
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,679
if you see somebody that needs help, there's that type

1053
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,039
of character that's going to try to make things better

1054
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:21,119
for them, even at their own even with sacrificing themselves.

1055
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,199
Speaker 1: Right. I see that it works though, because I feel

1056
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:26,559
like the reason my fell in love with him to

1057
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:30,639
begin with is that he is such a good person,

1058
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,920
a self sacrificing person, putting other people first. I think

1059
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,480
that's one of the reasons Mane loves him, So it'd

1060
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:43,199
be victory and hypocritical for her to like once she's

1061
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,960
going when he's going to help someone. Obviously, she has

1062
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,079
her little bit of jealousy, she has her little like

1063
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,480
emotional moments, but for the most part, she's okay with

1064
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,400
so many things. She has this trust in him because

1065
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,039
she knows, she knows he loves him, loves her, but

1066
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:01,039
also she knows that he is doing this because he's

1067
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,599
that's the type of person he is. He will pretend

1068
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,400
to be in a relationship with a girl to help

1069
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,760
her get over not just like just all to make

1070
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,000
her look good, whatever, to help her get over her

1071
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:14,079
own puberty syndrome that all of them went through. His

1072
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:16,639
little sister has went through. I just and I think

1073
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,599
that's part of the reason why she loves him.

1074
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's part of the contradiction that usually embodies

1075
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:23,719
a lot of stories like this, right, whether it's Momcitari

1076
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,960
or gu or whatever. Is like, they're the type of

1077
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239
person that's nice enough to want to help out people,

1078
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,440
and that's a charming feature in and of itself that

1079
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:35,760
usually causes that attraction. But also they usually have to

1080
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,599
end up kind of learning to love themselves a little

1081
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:41,159
bit and cherish themselves and balance that, right, Like it's

1082
00:50:41,159 --> 00:50:41,880
all about balance.

1083
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: I do think that's what The Dreaming Girl and also

1084
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,960
nats Up Kid is about, right.

1085
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: But I guess speaking about the Sister movie real quick,

1086
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,239
because I don't know if we've yeah, I don't know

1087
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,599
if we've talked about that one too, or did you

1088
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:55,920
want to keep talking about.

1089
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:59,119
Speaker 1: You know, I'm down to talk about Sister Venturing Out,

1090
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,960
although we I feel like this one's only an hour

1091
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,960
long and we kind of hopped about it a little

1092
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,960
bit at the end of the series. It's really connected

1093
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,000
with the end of the anime.

1094
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. For the most part. It's

1095
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:13,800
kind of a boring movie, like a lot set up

1096
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,039
as far as uh, just you know, her wanting to

1097
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:20,079
kind of go to school and whatnot and having to

1098
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:24,800
kind of deal with the psychological trauma of having been

1099
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,840
bullied in those scars and whatnot and trying to overcome

1100
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,360
that gradually bit by bit, step by step. I would

1101
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,719
just say that this movie is a little bit different

1102
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,400
and that it focuses on the different Kyata right where

1103
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,159
she's suddenly has that two year gap in memory, right,

1104
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,519
like mentally, like her last stuff that she like remembers

1105
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,880
remembers was she was like thirteen and now she's fifteen,

1106
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,360
having to apply to high school. She's two years behind,

1107
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:47,800
like having to try to make up for that gap,

1108
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,679
and then also just just having that social anxiety that

1109
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,519
of not really being able to face certain social situations.

1110
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,639
So we could see all that tackled here in that

1111
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,679
in that second Sister movie.

1112
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so one big thing about this movie. This

1113
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,039
is after she gets her her memories back, as you mentioned,

1114
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,320
and our main character Sakuta has that mental breakdown. This

1115
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,519
is after that happens. Obviously, the dreaming Girl stuff does

1116
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:18,239
happen before this, but it's after the ending of that.

1117
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,239
So it is the new Kayde like you mentioned. And

1118
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,760
I think one big note here is at first she

1119
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,960
wants to go to the school that her big brother

1120
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,840
went to, but in the end she was able to

1121
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,840
find like the self confidence and like to choose the

1122
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,320
path that she wants and that's best for her that

1123
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,320
no one else is making this decision for her, and

1124
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,559
that's something that I did enjoy the actual character building.

1125
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,000
She still struggled to go out. She struggled to do

1126
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:47,360
all these things. She overcame these things. She studied so

1127
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:50,639
hard she passed out in school. Like it was still

1128
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,840
reminded me of the old Kaide where like her like

1129
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,920
trauma was happening as she was trying to go to school,

1130
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,440
this and that, and in the end she was able

1131
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,679
to choose the best thing for her and and rebuild

1132
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:02,880
her confidence. I don't know, I really liked it as

1133
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,199
it was an hour right, Like it wasn't yeah.

1134
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, yeah, I think the biggest thing

1135
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,599
for her and stuff was not only having to face

1136
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,760
the past and like deal with those two years that

1137
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,559
went missing and whatnot. But now she has those like

1138
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:24,519
internalized self doubts of she has this diary from a

1139
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,159
version of her that she doesn't remember, you know, and

1140
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:29,559
you know, her brother kind of ran out and broke

1141
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,000
down whenever that version disappeared. There's a part of her

1142
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:35,280
that like wonders, did he love that version more? Did?

1143
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,280
Like she's like almost trying to live through the dreams

1144
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,960
of that Kayada by trying to get into his school.

1145
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,360
And then it's only towards the end of the movie

1146
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,440
that like she realizes, you know, there's no point like

1147
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,159
trying to live out her dream, the other Kayde's dream,

1148
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:52,440
like you got to do what's best for you and

1149
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,559
what you were actually wanting to do. Right, So she

1150
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:58,159
gets accepted into that school and she chooses, you know,

1151
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,679
not to go right, like, she chooses to follow her

1152
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:01,159
own path.

1153
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: So, yeah, she was able to accomplish getting into the

1154
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,880
high school that they didn't think she was going to

1155
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,320
be able to get into because she was not at

1156
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,159
school for two years indoors. And then she chooses her

1157
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:13,239
own thing, which I really liked. Yeah, and it does

1158
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,679
kind of connect into the next movie as well, where

1159
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,559
somehow something involving her, like her bruises, causes shifts in

1160
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,679
timeline unless I'm completely misunderstanding it. And in this timeline,

1161
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,440
her brother rescued her from being bullied at all. It

1162
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,880
was like the ideal timeline where she was never bullied.

1163
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,360
Where fucking like, I feel like I can't remember the

1164
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,079
other things. There was just so many things that were

1165
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:43,519
just like perfect about this time, Yeah, where like a

1166
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,920
lot of trauma and Peberdy syndrome just never occurred.

1167
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Talking about Napsack kid or whatever, it's like that kid. Yeah, Yeah,

1168
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:54,480
So it's like certain things still occurred in a relatively

1169
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:56,719
similar way as far as like he still was dating

1170
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,400
my Like, yeah, you had to figure out like he

1171
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,559
still had those connections with Noto and the Kohai and

1172
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,960
Futaba and like, so certain things are the same. But yeah,

1173
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,719
everything related to his sister and how his family situation

1174
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,079
was handled went very very differently in that alternate reality, right,

1175
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:17,119
Like he kind of explored those what ifs, and I

1176
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,840
guess moving a little bit back to the start of

1177
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,000
the movie, is it's one of those things where he's

1178
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:25,920
never really quite faced that, right, And then he had

1179
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,239
to grow up really quick. He had to kind of

1180
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,760
be the man of the house that took care of

1181
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,760
not only himself but his sister as well, and he

1182
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,360
had to do that for two years, and his parents

1183
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,960
weren't really in the picture. And then towards the start

1184
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719
of the movie, the thing that changes that is his mom,

1185
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,119
who's been sick. You know, she had like a psychological

1186
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,079
breakdown at like the at what the sister went through.

1187
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:47,320
She wasn't early around. She was having to try to

1188
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,960
get her stuff together, and she wants to see the sister.

1189
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:53,800
Right at the start of the movie, and they go

1190
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,360
to see the mom and that kind of launches the

1191
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,840
hole the movie in a place.

1192
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this new Kaida doesn't remember anything over those two years,

1193
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,760
and now her and her mom are able to like

1194
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,920
re kindle and get back to how things used to be.

1195
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,599
And it just what type of emotions do you think

1196
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:13,800
Sakuta was feeling?

1197
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: So the thing about him is I think he was

1198
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,559
kind of had mixed emotions on it. He was a

1199
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,920
lot less blaming of the parents than I think I

1200
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:27,320
probably would have been in his shoes, because he did

1201
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,880
have to grow up quick, right, he did have to

1202
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,199
handle a lot of burdens. Yeah, Like he he was

1203
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:38,119
the only thing that kind of that was like the

1204
00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:40,320
rock of like his sister's life that kind of kept

1205
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,039
everything kind of remotely. Uh, I don't know that kid

1206
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:46,079
had to grow up way too fast.

1207
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1208
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: He's sitting there working to to try to help get by. He's,

1209
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,400
i said, taking care of both himself and her and

1210
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,760
he's still in high school doing all this right, and

1211
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,639
the parents that just kind of dipped out, You know,

1212
00:56:57,679 --> 00:56:59,960
they feel guilt for that, as they probably should, right,

1213
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,800
But then there's also from his perspective, he he has

1214
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,039
that mindset of like almost blaming himself and looking at

1215
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:11,719
what he did wrong, and that he kind of disassociated

1216
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,679
a little bit, like he knew he had to do

1217
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,400
all this stuff without them, so he did. And then

1218
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:18,800
like it was almost easier to pretend like they didn't exist, right,

1219
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,159
that his mom wasn't also through stuff that he uh

1220
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,960
like he kind of just pushed that aside and put

1221
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,079
it like out of mind. And it's why it wasn't

1222
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:27,199
a big, very big focus at the series up to

1223
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,000
that point, because he just didn't really want to face

1224
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,880
it or deal with it or or have that confrontation.

1225
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:33,159
Speaker 1: Right.

1226
00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so even the first time he sees her stuff,

1227
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,159
he doesn't really look her in the eye. He doesn't

1228
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,119
it's been like two years, and he never went to

1229
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:42,400
visit her once, right, like on what she was going

1230
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,840
through or any any of that song.

1231
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I think it was almost easy, easier for him to

1232
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,760
think that they weren't the parents, weren't struggling and weren't trying,

1233
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,559
and kind of just like isolate himself and do his

1234
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:56,960
own thing. And then when he comes back to the

1235
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,880
reality of his mom was hospitalized because he couldn't have

1236
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,000
into what was going on, she was trying to like

1237
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:07,400
better herself and like she was doing things, and I

1238
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,239
feel like this created a little bit of a disconnect.

1239
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:12,199
And then he went to that ideal life where everything

1240
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,559
was like perfect, and then when he came back to

1241
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:17,559
this reality, no one could see him with another thing.

1242
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,840
He was going through the the the invisible my treatment.

1243
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,559
Speaker 2: There's That's the sciencey thing, is that there's all these

1244
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:29,719
different dimensions, you know, morty stuff, and it exists for

1245
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,239
him because he was able to go go there, go back.

1246
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,559
But but beyond all that, I think it all kind

1247
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,199
of boils down to him being way too hard on himself.

1248
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:40,840
You know, his hands were kind of full over the

1249
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,880
course of the series, not only trying to help other people,

1250
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,960
but like said, the kid had to grow up way

1251
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,519
too fast. He was just kind of not really addressing

1252
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:49,599
these things that were going on in his life, but

1253
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,480
they were still happening and he was still having to

1254
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,159
deal with it and it and the fact that his

1255
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:57,519
mentality in that movie is what could I have done better?

1256
00:58:57,639 --> 00:59:01,280
What could I have like? How could how could I

1257
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,239
have fixed this? Right?

1258
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Like?

1259
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,679
Speaker 2: How that That's kind of what I feel like was

1260
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:06,880
almost being addressed, was he was being hard on himself

1261
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,480
there even at the start, and just uh, I don't

1262
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:15,079
know he was he was looking to blame less externally,

1263
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:15,760
and it's just.

1264
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,159
Speaker 1: All I wish I understand. I feel like, out of

1265
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,599
all the movies and all the episodes, I understood this

1266
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,960
movie the least because there was internal stuff with Saputa,

1267
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:27,400
But I didn't I feel I don't know if I

1268
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,639
got confused with the timelines because he went to the

1269
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:33,519
ideal timeline. I don't fully understand what he was struggling

1270
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:37,639
with in that moment. Once things started to return to normal,

1271
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,559
like once Kayde got her memories back, I understand that.

1272
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,559
But once Kyde went to go reunite with her mother

1273
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:47,239
and things were getting back to normal in a way,

1274
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:49,239
what do you think he was struggling with there?

1275
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:52,159
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's some times where people find

1276
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,960
solace and like maybe relying on others and the opposite

1277
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,719
inverse can also be true. Right Like he you know,

1278
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,840
he had to grow up quick, he had to be

1279
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,079
that rock for his sister, and then I think there's

1280
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:04,280
a part of him that like built his identity around

1281
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,360
being that that rock of her life. Right like that,

1282
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,840
he uh, he had these things that relied on him.

1283
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,280
He felt like that was his place, like it gave

1284
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,679
him purpose, A sense of purpose would be a good

1285
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:18,079
way to put it. And then his parents are back

1286
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:21,039
and Kayda's living with his parents and everything's kind of

1287
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,679
dandy again, It's like, what purpose does he have now?

1288
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: Right?

1289
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,239
Speaker 2: Well, where does he fit into the picture?

1290
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:28,039
Speaker 1: I also think that what they were going for. I

1291
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:30,840
think I just had like a little conneption with what

1292
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,599
you were explaining. Yeah, so he isolated himself, like you said, right,

1293
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:36,239
where like he kind of just took care of his sister,

1294
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,559
did his own thing, and he didn't want to go

1295
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,880
back to I feel like by going back to like

1296
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,719
what's currently happening, like reality of like the mother and

1297
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,360
the father and like dealing with his parents, it was

1298
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,400
like almost like running to that alternate reality that was

1299
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,880
like ideal was easier.

1300
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:59,239
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, exactly, avoid being.

1301
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:02,079
Speaker 1: Mad at your parents, are confronting the situation or or

1302
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,519
healing what happened in the past and moving forward.

1303
01:01:06,239 --> 01:01:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I guess, just to add to that a

1304
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:14,239
little bit, he he's done such are over the course

1305
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,039
of the series. He's always been externally trying to help

1306
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,800
other people more than he helped himself and not really

1307
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,320
addressing his own issues. So it's as soon as those

1308
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,320
other people, you know, mainly his sister, Like his sisters

1309
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,199
relied on him a lot, and he's been that bedrock

1310
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:30,679
and then suddenly whenever she doesn't have to rely on

1311
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,880
him anymore. The I think there's a little bit there

1312
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,679
as well of just trying to find his own place

1313
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:38,159
in the world, because he hasn't addressed it for a

1314
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:40,880
few years. Right, He's been so focused on helping other

1315
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,599
people that he hasn't really looked at like what he

1316
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,280
wants to do in the future where he wants to, yeah,

1317
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,800
where he fits into the whole thing, right, Like to

1318
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,039
do these other people need him? If not, what's the point, right,

1319
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:54,599
So he has to kind of find that own reason

1320
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:57,760
to move forward with may by the end, So.

1321
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: I think you're right, like he was word of whatever else,

1322
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,440
he's not worried about himself or his own emotional healing

1323
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:06,559
like his like you mentioned, like he would be like

1324
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:08,519
we would be pissed at our parents if that happened

1325
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,960
with us, right, Yeah, And I feel like he wasn't,

1326
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:12,960
even though it's like okay for him to be mad.

1327
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:15,119
I feel like he didn't. He wasn't dealing with his

1328
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:17,639
own like emotional healing in a way, and he wasn't

1329
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:19,760
even worried about his future, as he mentioned as well.

1330
01:02:20,119 --> 01:02:23,000
But one thing that I love is that in every timeline,

1331
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:26,840
I feel like my was kind of his anchor, right,

1332
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,400
Like she remembered him every time, but like the same

1333
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,119
way he remembered her in those first three episodes, with

1334
01:02:33,199 --> 01:02:35,719
a nice little connection there. And then we move forward

1335
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,000
with him and her kind of like working on their futures,

1336
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:40,840
working on like what university they're going to go do,

1337
01:02:41,079 --> 01:02:42,079
which was nice as well.

1338
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's their relationships so sweet, and yeah, I guess

1339
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,480
it's almost like there's two things going on in parallel there, right,

1340
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,039
because I guess what I said and what you said

1341
01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:53,599
maybe don't go completely hand in hand, but I think

1342
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,519
they were both happening. Like he's dealing with all that

1343
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,599
about needing to be the anchor, and then also you know,

1344
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,920
actually just escaping from like the reality of the situation

1345
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:07,519
by imagining if everything was perfect right, and it cracked

1346
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:09,000
me up, like the other version of himself, I guess

1347
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,400
also swapped. He's like, get your shit together, man, what

1348
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,480
is going on over here?

1349
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, crazy, You're absolutely right. I feel like he

1350
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,840
was the anchor for so many people. But now that

1351
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,000
he's going through something and he went to that ideal

1352
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,840
timeline and a bunch of things. I like the fact

1353
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,239
that my still was able to be there.

1354
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:28,239
Speaker 2: He was able to kind of lean on as well. Right,

1355
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:29,840
we all need to lean on at.

1356
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 1: Times, right, I think both can be true. Jordan.

1357
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a It was a good movie. I

1358
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:37,519
like Napsack Kid way better than I thought I would

1359
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:40,320
because so every every arc does a good job of

1360
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,519
building up to the next, but like this one was

1361
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:44,440
just a long time coming, right with him being the

1362
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,360
main character, like us getting tippets and snid bits uh

1363
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,360
throughout the series up to this point and then finally

1364
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,800
like it's just kind of addressing some of the stuff

1365
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:59,199
going on with him psychologically, emotionally, et cetera. Right, good movie, solid.

1366
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:04,599
Speaker 1: I think the Sister Venturing Out movie was my least favorite,

1367
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,400
but it was still good.

1368
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,639
Speaker 2: It was just how dare you all? Kaye is a gym? Okay,

1369
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:10,199
she's I.

1370
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:13,039
Speaker 1: Saw the last the first season with Kaye. The last

1371
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:15,199
three gap of the first season great because that's the

1372
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,880
Kaydi that we got to meet for twelve episodes versus

1373
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:23,360
just like with Sakuta, this new Kayde didn't feel like Kayde.

1374
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I will say the Sister movie was one I

1375
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,639
enjoyed the ending and conclusion of, probably more than the

1376
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,039
journey of the movie itself, because it is kind of

1377
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:36,159
a almost like, I don't want to say, a nothing movie,

1378
01:04:36,159 --> 01:04:39,519
but there is just a lot of montages things are happening,

1379
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,440
but it's not really anything too crazy, right, Like it's

1380
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,000
just her trying to prepare for school and try to

1381
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:49,199
improve herself and stuff. So it's not really like an

1382
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,360
exciting movie in the same way like Dreaming of dreaming

1383
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,039
of a dreaming girl would be or or naps out Kids.

1384
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,559
Speaker 1: Man, there's too many different like timelines and stuff going

1385
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,639
on that it's hard for me to remember talking about that.

1386
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,360
We're talking about that last movie, and I was saying

1387
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,159
a bunch of things that I remember having these like

1388
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:07,840
feelings of, but I feel like it wasn't like meshing.

1389
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:11,000
I literally is super quick red a synopsis of the

1390
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
third movie, and I'm like, oh my god, I remember

1391
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:14,559
it all now, and I was able to give like

1392
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:17,519
my actual opinions on like and then connect things properly.

1393
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,960
I couldn't remember the order of events. There's too many

1394
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,400
fucking future show coach on and two different Kay days,

1395
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,639
and he goes to a perfect reality, and then there's

1396
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:30,719
this reality and then that reality. Nothing feels linear in

1397
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,000
any way, and nothing really is linear in the show

1398
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,039
because there's so many things that technically happened that never happened.

1399
01:05:37,079 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: It never happened. Yeah, and that's why I feel like

1400
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:40,920
it's one of my biggest critiques of the show. But

1401
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,519
I feel like I enjoy it more having fun with it,

1402
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:46,280
not overthinking that stuff, and just looking at more of

1403
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,000
what it's supposed to represent, right or like what they're

1404
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,400
trying to say, because at the end of the day,

1405
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,559
this whole series is about symbolism with like uh or

1406
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,320
in metaphors as far as like there things they're going

1407
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,800
through or taking that physical manifestation, and right, like those

1408
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:04,079
things that are happening are representative of the character's emotions.

1409
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's true. I like the fact that I

1410
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,840
think I appreciate it more this time because I didn't

1411
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,559
care about the science and I didn't I just try

1412
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:15,559
to enjoy what was happening for what was happening, But

1413
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:18,480
it's not one of those series upon rewatch that it

1414
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:22,039
makes more sense because it doesn't, like you want Steinsgate

1415
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:25,639
and you realize every single thing that happened influences and

1416
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,079
has the butterfly effect, and it's all laid out like

1417
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:32,239
you could, like like everything connects so perfectly because when

1418
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,960
he works the way backwards throughout time, it's like, actually,

1419
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,400
thought of versus this is not linear. It makes no sense,

1420
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,960
but it's still good in its own way because it's supernatural,

1421
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:43,679
so you can just say whatever the fuck you want,

1422
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:44,480
and that's reality.

1423
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,519
Speaker 2: Time travel stuff is hard to do, and I feel

1424
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:50,159
like usually I'm a big critic of it. I don't

1425
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:52,840
really usually like it. And the only series I can

1426
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,159
really think of anime wise that I love our Steinsgate

1427
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:59,920
and like HARROVII Suzumiya that that tackles similar type stuff, right,

1428
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:02,360
I can't think of any others off the top of

1429
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,320
my head that do it well. This is one where

1430
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,800
it kind of tackles it in its own way where

1431
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,639
it doesn't even try to make it doesn't even try it.

1432
01:07:07,719 --> 01:07:10,760
It's like, yeah, it's uh. It doesn't try to tie

1433
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,679
it together. It's kind of explains it with some of

1434
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:15,639
those over broad scientific theories, right, so you just.

1435
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Gonna I think they also try to explain it in

1436
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,000
a way where it's like, because future Kayite is like this,

1437
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,920
all those things won't have happened, but they still end

1438
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,400
up happening. In relationships will happen in a different way

1439
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:32,159
like my end Soka end up getting together regardless of

1440
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:33,679
some whatever.

1441
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,719
Speaker 2: Right, some things are to be.

1442
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,159
Speaker 1: I feel like they made it make sense without having

1443
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:41,559
to have everything line up perfectly, just through like a

1444
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:44,679
small supernatural explanation. It's like, because this is the future version,

1445
01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:46,519
blah blah blah blah blah blah, there's your answer.

1446
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say the series doesn't make sense like

1447
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,199
it makes sense. It's it makes it very well, but

1448
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,920
it's uh, it's one where it's like it's not worth

1449
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,079
giving yourself a headache trying to over understand every scientific thing.

1450
01:07:57,159 --> 01:07:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't like draw you can't draw out the

1451
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:03,000
different timelines and see where it connects and things like

1452
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,480
that perfectly because they give explanations for things and then

1453
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:08,559
that's just the way it is in this world with

1454
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:10,360
these supernatural syndromes happening.

1455
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of how it connects, have you tried out the

1456
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:14,920
Santa Claus anime at all yet or have you gone?

1457
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna suggest that for next week as my

1458
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,600
pick because I think there's three episodes out.

1459
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. We can do. We could just

1460
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,479
do two picks and give them the the recon if

1461
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,640
you want.

1462
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,119
Speaker 1: So, continue watching Brazik where he's gonna watch Bunny Girls

1463
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:32,640
and Pie three episodes and then one more thing.

1464
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna spoil the the new season of

1465
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,840
bunny Girl for you because I'm only two episodes in myself,

1466
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,119
but I will say the Sister movie, I hope you

1467
01:08:45,119 --> 01:08:47,359
paid attention to it because it does end up being important. Right,

1468
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:48,640
everything carries on into the.

1469
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: Next I have such a bad memory, I need to

1470
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,239
like use another like dude. I rewatch shows, rewatch shows,

1471
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:56,159
rewatch shows. And I still need to read a synopsis

1472
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,560
before doing these podcasts because my brain is all over

1473
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,640
the place. Jesus Christ.

1474
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: We cover a lot of different media, right, so like

1475
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,279
it's under more so than med Right, it's understandable. That's

1476
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,000
what I said. I could not have jumped into these

1477
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,760
movies without rewatching bunny Girl, SEMPI the first season, and

1478
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,199
that's why I felt like we needed to maybe at

1479
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,319
least cover that first season a little bit, like jostle

1480
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,520
people's memories a bit if they feel they need it.

1481
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: To the people in chat that complain, and I don't

1482
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:21,920
get through all the shows that I'm supposed to get through,

1483
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:25,520
You've got to realize that I'm watching sometimes three different

1484
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,159
three episode shows for RANKFA, I'm watching a whole season

1485
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:33,039
of something for anime virgin usually, and I'm watching usually

1486
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:35,560
an arc of one Piece every two weeks for the

1487
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,760
anime for the one Piece Virgin, while reading the manga,

1488
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,079
while staying up to date with seasonals for the streams,

1489
01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:43,840
while watching your picks. Like, dude, I'm watching fifty plus

1490
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,760
episodes of anime a week. My brain's everywhere, and there's

1491
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,600
no week I could get it all done all the time.

1492
01:09:49,239 --> 01:09:51,199
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a lot. It's a lot. And then meanwhile,

1493
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:52,800
this man will be like, hey, can you watch Bunny

1494
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,479
Girl SIMPI like those movies, and I'll be like, I

1495
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,920
need two weeks for that. Like it's a lot.

1496
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,279
Speaker 1: So it's very usually schedule. On top of that, like,

1497
01:10:01,279 --> 01:10:04,359
I'm a full time content creator for like the most part,

1498
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:06,359
but I'm also like, do side jobs just to keep

1499
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,319
being able to be a focal content creator. So I'm

1500
01:10:08,359 --> 01:10:10,720
doing like hockey training and tutoring and this, and then

1501
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,760
and summer I'm touching ice and sand.

1502
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,199
Speaker 2: You know, That's what when people keep up with every

1503
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:17,720
seasonal show and stuff. I'm like, I don't know how

1504
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,159
you do it. I guess it's like you, I work

1505
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:22,399
full time and whatnot, And afterwards, like I can watch

1506
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:25,239
a few shows, but all of them, that's all. It's

1507
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:25,479
a lot.

1508
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,199
Speaker 1: And then I get addicted to Apex again, and it's

1509
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,720
all over. The second I started playing Apex, like more

1510
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,239
than once a week, I fall behind on everything in

1511
01:10:32,279 --> 01:10:32,760
my life.

1512
01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: I feel you there, I feel you. It's so easy

1513
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,079
to fall into that rabbit hole. I haven't touched Apex

1514
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:41,159
in a few months, and granted I've been watching anime instead,

1515
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:42,720
so it's not like I've had more free times. But

1516
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,359
like trying to do a switch.

1517
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 1: Up, yeah, it's hard to do both. It really is

1518
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,279
hard to do both. So what do we want to

1519
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:50,800
do for our third anime choice?

1520
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 2: So what I had in mind was a seasonal that

1521
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,319
you didn't get to try that I'm only going to

1522
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,520
have a few episode or it's only gonna have like

1523
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,319
six episodes total, but it's been one of the most

1524
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:07,319
popular series coming out recently. It's very high quality. Yeah,

1525
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,960
so it's gonna be six episodes. By the end of

1526
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,920
next week, it'll it'll be finished. And it's called Takopi's

1527
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,600
Original Sin. So it's one I I brought up. It's

1528
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:25,119
uh six episodes, very uh emotionally taxing at times. I've

1529
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:27,199
been trying to dodge spoilers, like I have observation on

1530
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:29,640
hot on Twitter, but it's been a hot topic. So

1531
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,960
this is the one I want to make sure I

1532
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,239
actually finished before for the end of season sick.

1533
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done. What's it called to Kope's Original Sin?

1534
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, to Kopy's Original Sin.

1535
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:43,039
Speaker 1: To watch that, we're to watch the new three upode

1536
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:45,680
of the Bunny Gill Sampi and I don't know, maybe

1537
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,199
we don't do berserk. I think I need to request

1538
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:50,640
something from my long list of anime that I need

1539
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,000
to watch, like a double dip. Maybe here a little

1540
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,319
bit for me.

1541
01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 2: You need to send me that list because I might

1542
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,479
have a few things I've been dying to recommend that

1543
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,439
that overlap with it.

1544
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: But hmmm, I don't have to.

1545
01:12:04,079 --> 01:12:07,359
Speaker 2: I just want to finish. I gotta make the time.

1546
01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't know which one to cover. What should we do?

1547
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:13,279
There's so many options, so I started reading them. When

1548
01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:18,239
you choose Jordan, Yeah, yeah, okay. We have Don Mantree

1549
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:20,119
season five, which I don't know if you guys are

1550
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:22,399
caught up, so maybe we won't do that. Uh. Eight

1551
01:12:22,399 --> 01:12:29,680
episodes of Shinseka Yori uh Boucie Geary episode one Sue

1552
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,760
Bossa Chronicle. Don't know what that is.

1553
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: I like chronicle. I never finished that one, but I

1554
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,600
saw at least the first couple episodes like way back when,

1555
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,119
like as a teenager.

1556
01:12:40,279 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: So I say we Doubossa Chronicles.

1557
01:12:45,039 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: Chronicles, Okay, sounds good to me because other ones I'm

1558
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,760
not familiar with. They sound familiar, but I'm awful with

1559
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,920
sometimes these newer anime Japanese names, I'm just sick.

1560
01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 1: Going together sounds good to me. My friend. On that note,

1561
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,319
we're all over an hour fifteen of the podcast. I

1562
01:13:02,359 --> 01:13:05,119
think we call it there, all right, Yeah, we're good.

1563
01:13:06,279 --> 01:13:08,319
Ideally I would like to do them for an hour.

1564
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:10,279
They just often end up being forty five minutes.

1565
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: But this was a lot of kind of perfect right.

1566
01:13:13,119 --> 01:13:18,159
Speaker 1: We didn't even cover panteon stalking. I just realized that, yeah, happened,

1567
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,960
but we can't. But it is just a Bunny Girl

1568
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,920
SEMPI episode. We could throw our opinion of panteon stalking

1569
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,039
into the next episode.

1570
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: Sounds good, we need extra time.

1571
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: We definitely don't need extra time here. We're at an

1572
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:29,239
hour fifteen.

1573
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 2: That sounds good. An hour fifteen with only two people's

1574
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,000
impressed them.

1575
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:36,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a good job. We yapped it up.

1576
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,640
We yapped it up, and.

1577
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, soo much of times.

1578
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: I love buddy. I hope that we made sense. Guys,

1579
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,119
we were a little all over the place. Jordan was

1580
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:47,640
more concise with what he was saying. I feel like

1581
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,319
my brain was all over the place a little bit,

1582
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:53,520
as is Bunny Girls. I was dealing with my own

1583
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,800
puberty syndrome at twenty eight. God damn it, it was fitting.

1584
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,199
Speaker 2: It was. I will say the thing about the newer

1585
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:01,640
season in college, right, So it's like we're dealing with

1586
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,000
puberty syndrome. I think, I say, I haven't seen it

1587
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:07,720
again yet, But they grow up, right, This series is

1588
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,560
about growing up and we're seeing that happen.

1589
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: So it's always cool having a series grow up with

1590
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,520
you in a way.

1591
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love it when series do that. It's one

1592
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,439
of my guilty pleasures.

1593
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,159
Speaker 1: Anyway, I hope you guys enjoyed. Remember to check out

1594
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:25,319
the Anime Dude. He does his watch parties on Twitch

1595
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,720
for the anime we cover every week. I do that

1596
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,079
as well over on Briggs A d A. Remember to

1597
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:34,079
drop a drop a yeah, drop a follow somewhere anywhere,

1598
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:35,960
all the places, but I was gonna say, remember to

1599
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,840
leave a comment on Spotify. I like to see people's

1600
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,279
comments on Spotify to see that you guys are actually

1601
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:42,479
listening in and what your thoughts are and what you

1602
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,039
guys want us to cover next. Stuff like that. Shimpoku

1603
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:46,760
and I'll see you guys all next time.

1604
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:48,119
Speaker 2: Later