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Speaker 1: Let's all start to it.

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Speaker 2: You want to presents Off the bench with Jacob Hester

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and T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, off the bench with Jacob

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Hester and C Bob.

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Speaker 4: Aber I gotta come off the bitch.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Y'all?

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, Oh too.

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Speaker 3: February twenty seven, twenty twenty five. It is Thursday, actually

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Thursday this time, and I'm really excited for today's show.

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We got a great show, as Taylor just kind of

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laid out there. We're gonna run the gamut. Thursday always

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meets Mounchy Shnanigan, ton of stuff and basically the weekend

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starts today, guys, so let's have ourselves at time.

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Speaker 1: I'm T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 3: We got Taylor Sharp here and Cindio Jakes joined us remotely,

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and we got what I'm very excited about. We got

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our girl, Alandra Vireal back from the Big Apple and

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she is is pining for the Big Apple. You know

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how it is when you visit that city as a

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young person and you're absolutely infected and infused with its

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energy and romance and potential, and you want to move

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there and see if you can make it there. Ladra,

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how are we feeling on the other side of your trip.

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Speaker 1: To uh Manhattan?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you pretty much said it. But I've

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always wanted to live there, like ever since I was

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a kid.

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Speaker 1: I have always like my I didn't go to New.

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Speaker 5: York until I was like, mmm, in my twenties, I think,

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like I think I was maybe nineteen, I don't know, yeah,

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but like my whole life, like I was just enthralled

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with it, and then like the first time I went,

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I was like, oh my god, I love it here,

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and then I don't know, every time I go, like,

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I just love it so much, and I wish I could.

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I wish I could like find a job out there.

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I would so move out there.

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Speaker 3: We have, Look, we have an OTV to Barstool Pipeline,

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as we've sent Megan making Money and Ben Mint up

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to Barstool before. We also have an OTV in New

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York pipeline though Nathan Belasquez and Sammy Flavors Yeah, both

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uh through you know, jumped into the deep end and

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moved up there and have now made it our and

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are living. It's funny though, because in my own personal life.

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I think I went through the exact same experience you

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as a kid through movies and stuff, right obsessed with it.

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And I think my mom actually took me the first

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time and like my eleventh birthday, fell in love with it.

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my twenties, me and wife would go every single year,

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and every time I would go because even my sister

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ended up moving up there and starting a business and

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so she did that whole deal.

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Speaker 1: So every time I went, I thought like.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just want to throw it all away,

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whant to move here and see if I can make

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it right. The energy of the city's incredible, it's infectious.

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But that's how I knew I was getting old. Yeah,

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because the last time I went, a couple of years ago,

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we brought both kids up.

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Speaker 1: We only had two at.

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Speaker 3: The time, and I'll be damned, for the first time

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in my life, I didn't just feel like a country group.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at the buildings and I was like, well, damn, Bollamo,

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some big building over there, and I'm kind of like,

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there's a lot of people that live in here. Man.

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Speaker 1: This is this is pretty crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Man, so I think it's kind of sad to say, yeah,

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but I think I missed my boat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're really.

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Speaker 5: About it, yeah, I kind of feel like I missed

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it a little bit already. But I think my southernness

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started to show a little bit when I went to

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this play. And this play was a little crazy, and

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my aunts were like, what did you think about it?

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for me, but it was kind of funny at times.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll tell you off air about and y'all know,

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I got some pretty dirty experiences and without a doubt,

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the most hedonistic, weird, depraved night of my entire life

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at a New York place called the Lodge one time.

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Speaker 1: Jakie, what's going on, man, how are we doing this morning?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: I got a dental appointment because, as I told y'all

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a couple of weeks ago, I'm a real redneck and

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swallowed one of my caps and so now I've got

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to go actually get a replaced because I didn't want

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Speaker 4: A cruise ship and then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Have a situation where the temporary one popped off and

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I'm in the middle of the ocean, and I can't

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really do anything about it.

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Speaker 4: So I got to go get that fixed. And Alandra,

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I'm glad you had.

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Speaker 2: A great time in New York, but the Yankees hat

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still makes me better. Nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: I remember those as well growing up in Atlanta. That's

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the reason why I hated the Yankees growing up. Certainly

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took a couple of World Series from those amazing Braves

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team who's still despite the fifteen divisions in a row,

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only got one championship. All the Marlins and the same

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stretch took home two, which has to be one of

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the craziest sports factoids in history. Jake also wrote an

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article for Louisiana Sports Done that about his time at

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the Combine and with the Combine really entails, so I'm

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excited to pick his brain there as the NFL Combines underway.

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Saints that availability yesterday. We'll get into what they had

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to say. But last night LSU Top twenty matchup on

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the Diamond. Let's go ahead and get this thing started.

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It's time to Oh, good job, alund I thought maybe

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it's gonna be a little old and staffing well, so

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they can help take care of screening.

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Speaker 1: Training, professional and more.

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Speaker 3: Now for starters, Remember, guys, Tiger Labor and Staffing truly

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vets their employees by building relationships with them. Okay, they

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don't just look at their job as you're not just

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looking at resumes. They get to know every potential employee

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during the in person onboarding process and every morning over

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a cup of coffee because again they're up in the

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morning five am interviewing, dispatching in person. They also have

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the shortest hiring terms of the industry at sixty days.

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They do this because they understand the quality employees they

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have and they want your business to succeed over all

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of your staff.

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Speaker 1: He needs Tiger Labor and Staffing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So last night LSU DBU in in Texas and LSU

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comes away with a seven to three win, and it's

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it's a bit of an interesting game in that I mean,

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that's a good it's a good final score. It's top

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twenty teen, seven to three, without a doubt. However, it

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could have been much worse. LSU left a lot of

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meat on the bone, while DBU actually kind of made

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the most of the meat that they were offered. Because

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when you look at it statistically, I mean, what is

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the favor I think it was like twelve hits to

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three by the end of the game. But LSU goes

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three of sixteen with runners in scoring position. They left

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fifteen runners on base, whereas so LS you had twenty

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six at bats. I don't hunt Palmer losing to sports

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on that breakdown, they had twenty six at bats with

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runners on DBU had six only have three men on base.

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So it's a weird game where the score is not

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like there's nothing to kind of turn your nose up

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at it. It's a four run win over a top

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twenty team, but the score is a bit closer than

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the flow of the game, as LSU was great at

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the plate until it came time to send guys home,

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and was great on the mound save for just giving

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up a couple of home runs. Do a DVU lineup,

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like we said yesterday, that is very powerful.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean everything that you said is certainly true.

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And by the way, whoever continue to try to sabotage

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the stream, like what are we doing here? I mean

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flow Sports of all people is able to keep it

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down a little bit. But to your point, t of

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the game. It didn't maybe play out the way that

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and you have twelve hits and they only have three.

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like they came up with the hits when they needed them.

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a run. I know you wanted more in the first

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but still you were able to get on the board.

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Speaker 4: That felt like it was big in the game.

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Speaker 2: Pitching was lights out, and so sure, like we can

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sit here and we could talk about the people you

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left on base. That's never what you want to do,

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and I know there's a situation where you try to

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squeeze play. It certainly didn't work in your favor, and

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a lot of people are going to point to that,

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on the road in somebody's hometown and you beat a

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really good baseball team, And so sure there's things that

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you could point to you wish they went a little

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bit better for you, But I did like a lot

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of what I saw, certainly like the table setters for LSU,

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the top of the lineup getting four hits, and like

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of good.

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Speaker 2: And it was a good win for LSU, and that's

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going to be one whenever talk to Jay later on,

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he's going to tell you that's a massive win. It's

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a win against a team that's probably gonna win their

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conference championship. And it might seem, you know, here into

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February like it doesn't matter, but that is going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I don't bring up I don't want

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to be misconstrued here. I don't bring up the runners

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left onto the meat left and the bone to try

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to highlight the negative here. I'm merely trying to give

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shape to how the game played out, because I think

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if we take a step back and you look at, Okay,

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what problems would you want to have after a game

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Speaker 1: That's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 3: Like LSU is going to strand a lot of guys

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this year just because they're going to put a lot

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of people on base because they are so good in

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that lineup, or they have been up to this point.

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plating guys, hitting its runners and scoring position, like I

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know Jay Jobbs can figure that out. So I love

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when I see again only one error defensively, I love,

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I mean the arms, The arms continue to impress. Connor

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Ware comes out there on fire for perfect inning. Six

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k's on sixty pitches. Now obviously got ends up getting

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chased in the fifth, but that's a guy who if

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he keeps this up, I don't know, man. Maybe he

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Zach Collen comes in and is a bit of an

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early wobble, but then I love seeing him recover. He

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goes three runs in the three and in striking out

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five gets to win.

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Speaker 1: And and and then you have we're thinking.

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Speaker 3: A little sketchy, And I like having to play in

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late game situations where a play has to be made

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and really played. A highlight there would be after LSU

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stranded about a million runners in the seventh and eighth,

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d WU comes up and thanks to a couple of

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Cooper Williams walks, uh, they have the bases loaded. Bottom

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of the eighth, one out. Cason Evans comes in and

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it is, but the play had to be made, both

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by Evans and by bar Jones at first, but he

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adduces a liner that Bear Jones catches steps from the bag,

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double play, ending over threat over in the case, and

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Speaker 1: So again, annelis game with way.

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Speaker 3: More good than bad, and as Jake pointed out, a

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big RPI win for LSU that could potentially bear some

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fruit and and well, no matter how much of an

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impact it has, will have a positive impact on the

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resume comes season's end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and see when you look at the players at

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LSU's able to throw out there on the mound this

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year compared to last year. And this isn't rhetorical, Like

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I'm asking you, I feel just incredibly you better about

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the situation. I just feel more confident about the situation,

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like I saw. I'm asking you, like I'm not trying

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to put an answer in front of you, but I

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know that's how I feel. Like you look at some

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of the arms they have coming in the back end

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of the game, and it's just like, gosh, ninety seven

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ninety seven, Like everybody they throw in there is somebody

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that looks like they could go finish a game for you,

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Like it just feels different, right, Uh.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's unbelievable, dude, it is.

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Speaker 3: It feels like and I know this is I think

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been like a common line of message boards and stuff,

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so I guess I'm stealing this through.

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Speaker 1: Just internet osmosis.

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Speaker 3: But it does feel a bit like this staff is

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the staff that I thought they had last year where

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he talked.

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Speaker 1: About them having an overwhelming amount.

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Speaker 3: Of options, almost too many arms, like they really actually

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have almost too many arms now to have where and

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Cowen and Evans as like, your midweek options are insane?

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and what so those aren't even the first arms out

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of the pen on the week I mean maybe they are, like,

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but we'll see how this all shakes out eventually, but yes,

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there is a what was where Blake Baker was talking

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about the LSU Davids a couple weeks ago, and he's

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about the idea that now he feels like they have

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competitive depth. This is the chance which is a hallmark

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of any championship caliber team. And this staff has more

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competitive depth than any that I have seen since I've

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been covering this LSU baseball team, which I mean admittedly

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is probably a little under ten years, but it is

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shocking the amount of options that they have.

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Speaker 1: You could tell that.

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Speaker 3: Coach Johnson not wanting to feel the same way that

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he felt last year and the first year when he

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took over this team, and he's I'm gonna kind of

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squeeze blood from the stones. Nate Yesky doing a great

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job a second year on the job, finally retaining a

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pitching coach. So yeah, they're fantastic right now. Alander, you're

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a resident LSU baseball head. I know you were traveling yesterday,

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so I don't know how much you got to see

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or not, But what are your kind of just thoughts

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on the team the win at DBU.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, unfortunately I didn't get to watch the game last

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night because I was traveling. But I pricked up about

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like when you said Nate Yesky, because I'm very glad

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that people are finally seeing because I feel like I

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was like dying on a hill last season. Like I

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don't know if y'all remember, but the Nate Yessky talk

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was pretty negative last severy negative, and I was like, no,

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he is good, like I promise you, And so I'm

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glad that, like that is moving in.

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Speaker 1: A positive direction.

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Speaker 4: But also like I also.

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Speaker 5: Kind of hope that people stop with the lack of

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competition talk, because we just beat a top twenty teen

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seventy three, which is a great score, like you said earlier, So.

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Speaker 1: Didn't set him lose last night as well? I'm not sure. Yeah,

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they lost, I mean it doesn't really matter, but like whatever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, I'm just like y'all excited to

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see the rest of this tournament. And I think that

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LSU is in a really good spot right now with

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the bullpen and the offense.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean again, like the the the problems

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last night are good problems I have at this point

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in k TE.

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Speaker 1: You got anything to add on the way out here.

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Speaker 6: You may have found a closer in case and Evans,

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I'll tell you that he uh you remember opening weekend

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he looked really good as well. And yeah, well Gavin

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Gidrey is going to get the first shot at that

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one sec players.

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Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned that on this show. He's hurt by

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the way.

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Speaker 6: J Johnson, Yes, yes, but again, the more that Lingers,

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you're gonna have to have somebody come in. You mentioned

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in the seventh inning, like this game was still pretty tight.

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You go to a guy whose first year is on

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the team, get him the eighth and ninth inning. He

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gives up no hits in the eighth and ninth inning.

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He's looked phenomenal at the back end of these bullpen

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rotations multiple.

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Speaker 1: Weeks in a row. Now, uh so.

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Speaker 3: Uh a really great night for LSU baseball and a

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top twenty win here early on in the season. So

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this team, which so much potential, continues to trend in

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the right way. How many weeks away away from conference play?

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 4: Three? Damn?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got three weeks.

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Speaker 2: You've got North Dakota State coming up, You've got North

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Alabama coming up, and then I think you get Miszoo,

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who's struggling right now.

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Speaker 3: Bad uh So excited to see the rest of this

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time in plays up Coming up next here on O

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t B, the NFL combines in the air. Let's talk

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to Jake about what it's actually like. Boots on the

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ground at the combine. More off the bench coming up.

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Speaker 1: Next, Off the bench.

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Speaker 3: Tommy's windows doors insiding g e a ux, Tommy's dot com.

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G e a ux Tommy's dot com. If you need

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hardy plank or vinyl sighting winter vinyl windows. Maybe you

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want to upgrade, adore anything like that. You work with

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Tommy's and you're gonna see the difference clearly. And look,

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there's a few reasons where Tommy separates. First off, in

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the experience department. Tommy's been in this business for thirty

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years now, okay, work for somebody else for twenty of

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them said I've learned everything now and here are things

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that I would do differently. And that's why the full

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decade that Tommy's winterstor is at tidy has been around

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the taking over the Angie Sewer super service word every

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single year. Do you know you're getting elite customer service?

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work is done serving Louisiana with quality products and service.

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Tommy's windows, doors inside. I'm gonna talking big terms here.

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Whoever the UL people are reporting, Cajun, you are the

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scum of the earth.

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Speaker 1: You freaking suck.

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Speaker 3: If you know this guy personally, whoever this is, and

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you are listening to this, let him know that the

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firm stance of off the bench, of everybody really in

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this area, and of many other SEC fan bases as well,

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is that you are trash.

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Speaker 1: You are scum.

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Speaker 3: You are a boot liquor, you are a water carrier

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for who, for copyright people like, get off your knees,

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you suck whoever you are and let it be not

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like next time you go to do something like this.

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I'm sure you're little your your little troll self probably

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gets offty hearing this, but it doesn't matter. It needs

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to be said anyway. You're just on fun. You're probably

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miserable at parties. And I doubt that we would get

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along if we were to meet casually.

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Speaker 1: And I hope you stub your toe today.

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Speaker 6: Why does the University of Louisville hate the kjun homis broadcast?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know. I'm not I'm not. I'm not

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doing this. I was gonna not doing this dance. I'm

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not doing this dance. Also, Stephen Ridley, apparently Chad s

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telling me, went on Julian Edelman's podcast and called Jake

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the the baddest white boy ever, which you know, fair absolutely,

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But he also told a story about someone defecating on

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themselves during the one ten test. Now I'll say this

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and Chad saying that it was me, it was not me.

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Speaker 1: I will not name I will not name who it

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is because it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this about Ridley is that he

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did not actually witness or experience it because this was

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one ten test day and used to run according to group,

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and so this was during the big skill one ten tests.

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Speaker 1: Because of course it was right.

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Speaker 3: So again Ridley ended up seeing the aftermath because they

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couldn't clean it up for the other groups.

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Speaker 1: But basically, if.

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Speaker 3: You did not make your one tens in time, you

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would have to wake up during camp at five am

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and run.

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Speaker 1: I had to do it. It was miserable before two days awful.

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Speaker 3: But if you didn't make your times, you had to

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do that right, And so the thing was you better

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make your times.

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Speaker 1: And okay, well, I think we got some news in

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a second.

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Speaker 3: But but basically one of our teammates around repped like

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A or nine. When you're in the dead middle and

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you're really struggling and you're trying to push through mentally,

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one of our teammates just pulled his girdle to the side,

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and just defecated on the ground.

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Speaker 1: And it's about seven am.

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Speaker 3: The little dew in the air, and it was steamy

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and hot and of a texture that you would not enjoy, right,

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sort of a pancake mix sort of thing going on.

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So it was one of the more disgusting things I've

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ever seen. And all the coaches did was put orange

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cones around it. And you know, not even a second

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of a break, not even you got forty five seconds

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between reps. We didn't even get fifty five, not a

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second lost. And credit to the man himself, he ended

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up passing that test.

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Speaker 6: He does this mid run like never breakstride, No.

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Speaker 1: No, he does it the forty five seconds.

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Speaker 3: So after he finishes round in the end zone, he

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pulls his girl to the side and just you know,

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steams it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that didn't happen. It was crazy as nasty today

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as it was then.

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Speaker 3: And they left it on there for the you know,

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until they for the rest of the every group to see.

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Speaker 1: Wait, okay, somebody said, is this is this true?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if this is true, So we'll

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find out within a couple minutes. Somebody said bo did

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lead to the Saints we talking about We're not talking.

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Speaker 4: About yeah, Bo Davis.

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Speaker 2: So, according to Luke Johnson, the Saints are expected to

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hire Bo Davis to be their defensive line coach, according

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to a league source, adding another coach from the college rinks.

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Of course, Davis most recently words as a defensive line

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coach at LSU and is considered one of the NCAA's

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a better d line coaches.

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Speaker 4: Kitlyn Moore, I'll fight.

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Speaker 3: You, oh man, that's a big hit for LSU. I mean,

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they paid a million and a half dollars to get

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Bo Diddley.

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Speaker 4: Kellen.

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Speaker 3: He's an elite technician, he's an elite recruiter. I guarantee

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he's absolutely sick of the college game. I mean, remember

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when he's berating Texas players a couple of years ago

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about their toughness and everything.

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Speaker 1: And now when when you think about the.

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Speaker 3: Players that he's got to deal with the transferport of

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everything else like a long time college coach, Like, yeah,

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the NFL. Plus they probably paid him more, right, I

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imagine you have to even that's a lot of money

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for an NFL, A.

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Speaker 4: Lot of money for NFL actually.

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Speaker 3: Almost, I mean, I wonder, I wonder. I mean, but

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would he leave, Like, is that how miserable he is

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with the new generation of players that he would leave

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for less money. But man, that is a big hit

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at a not a great time of the year of

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the hiring kind.

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Speaker 1: Of cycle for LSU here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what bo Davis did with last year's deepense

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of line was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It was I mean, you talked about a position group

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that just left a lot to be desired with this,

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you know who you had available. There was some misses

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in the transfer portal, which I mean maybe I guess

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looking back retrospect, they weren't as big as we thought

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they were with the players and how much they actually

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received and what they did with their team. But he

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00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,000
took a defensive line that was held together with duct

478
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,960
tape and super glue and made them respectable. Like they

479
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,640
weren't the best in the SEC, but with who they

480
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,480
had and who they were rolling in there, they played

481
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:44,039
damn hard and they played above their ceiling like gopi

482
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240
as is somebody that went in there and you got

483
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,000
literally the most that you possibly could. And then you

484
00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,000
started to play some of these young defensive linemen. You

485
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:54,680
could see them by the end of the year that

486
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,799
they were ready to play in the SEC, and so

487
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,519
I think a lot of people were excited because you know,

488
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,279
that group got elevated this year. You can have a

489
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880
you know, a better opportunity to go be one of

490
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960
the top, maybe deep in the fronts in the SEC.

491
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,519
Speaker 4: I think your talent went up there.

492
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: And Bo Davis is somebody that everybody knows what he

493
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,920
can do. He did it at Alabama, did Texas, did

494
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,319
it here in a single year back at LSU, and

495
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,559
so yeah, there's no way to sit here and like

496
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,319
shrug that all.

497
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,839
Speaker 4: That's a major loss for LSU.

498
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, if I wanted to maybe you know, temper

499
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,599
some of the disaster here, you still have Kevin Peeples

500
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,480
and that's the guy who works with the edges. And

501
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:39,359
so don't attribute the success of Swinson and Savan Jones

502
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,359
and those guys on the edge to Bo Davis. But man,

503
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,680
from a recruiting vibe technician standpoint, yeah, I mean there's

504
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,200
a Again, there's a reason why Bo Davis was paid

505
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,640
a million and a half dollars a year to come

506
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,920
be LSU's defensive line coach.

507
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: What's funny about this is at a time and when.

508
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,079
Speaker 3: At a time, Yeah, okay, Nookie says, Louisiana fans are

509
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,599
pissed of the same. How can we make it worse?

510
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,440
And in time when people already are starting to loathe

511
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,839
Mickey Loomis, loathe Mickey Loomis, he hits him with the

512
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,440
one two of hey, we're committed to Derek Carr and hey,

513
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:20,640
I'm hiring Bo.

514
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,759
Speaker 1: Davis away from your favorite college team.

515
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:23,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

516
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:26,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely brutal.

517
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,519
Speaker 2: It's not good, not good, not a great time for

518
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,559
the Saints. And we were doing so well. We were

519
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:38,519
so excited about all the hires that you were making

520
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,400
and bringing in nuss Meyer to be EUROC and Staley

521
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,119
to be your DC and Terry Joseph, uh somebody that

522
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,000
was you know, is a part of the Joseph family,

523
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,880
which is you know, obviously a huge name of Louisiana

524
00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,839
Shawl legend. All of it was going so so well,

525
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,680
and now you're stealing one of the best coaches at

526
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:56,400
LSU had.

527
00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 4: There goes the momentum.

528
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,079
Speaker 1: Damn Mickey.

529
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: Huge bummer for the players themselves, as I mean, who

530
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,759
do you? I mean, well again, let's see you. They

531
00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:12,000
end up being replaced with. But like as a player

532
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,279
with a position, coach when you know you have one

533
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,400
of the greats. That is inherently exciting because Bo Davis's

534
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,240
resume is such that he doesn't have to convince you

535
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:26,960
to trust him.

536
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: I always talk about it.

537
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: The main thing that you want from a player to

538
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,799
coach relationship is do I have full concrete trust that

539
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,720
if I do what you're telling me, that it's going

540
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:39,720
to make me better, even if I think it sounds

541
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,200
a bit weird or maybe a bit crazy doesn't work.

542
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,240
And when you have that trust or the coach, it's

543
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,200
one of the best feelings in the world. Those are

544
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,599
the coaches that you remember for the entirety of your life.

545
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,480
Bo Davis's resume and skins on the wall were such

546
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,400
that when you walked into that room, you immediately.

547
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,319
Speaker 1: Trusted him. You didn't have to be convinced. It didn't

548
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,519
have to be to you.

549
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: Who knows if that's the case with the next guy,

550
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,440
and I want to be paid for clear by this.

551
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: I have seen some.

552
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: Position coaches that I would not describe as very good coaches.

553
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: Now generally they'll have a strength.

554
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,559
Speaker 3: Maybe this guy's better at recruiting, Maybe this guy's better

555
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,279
at scheme, maybe this guy's better at technique, but Davis

556
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,039
was one of the best at combining all of the

557
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:25,880
different elements there. I mean I knew a coach one

558
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
time that we convinced that when we were in the

559
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,640
indoor that we shouldn't have practiced on the end zones

560
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,680
because they were more slippery. I mean, it's all the

561
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:38,480
exact same turf. So like it, can you better hire

562
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,960
well because you can certainly hire poorly?

563
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,599
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I agree with you there.

564
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: And you can get to even a place like LSU

565
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,079
and not be the best football coach and you're strictly

566
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,640
a recruiter and you get on like the board in

567
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,960
front of his position group and you're like, wait a minute,

568
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720
do I know more than you? Yeah, I mean, no

569
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:02,000
situations happened. Maybe maybe that's changed a little bit. Recruiting

570
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,960
certainly different than when you and I were in college football.

571
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,079
Speaker 4: But one thing that I'm gonna be paying attention to now.

572
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So like Jacob and Gillory, he's had multiple multiple.

573
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: D line coaches.

574
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him, right, I Mean, this is

575
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,799
somebody that he's been here a long time. He's going

576
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:22,200
to be a leader. But like, now, okay, am I

577
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,480
bro Dominic McKinley. Man, you you have to think that

578
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,039
they are going really tough to struggle with this for

579
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,799
a little bit because that was their guy when they

580
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,960
got in as a freshman. And I had a position

581
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:36,640
coach change and a head coaching change when I was

582
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,160
a freshman.

583
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,599
Speaker 4: It's tough. It's like, man, wait a minute, true.

584
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,279
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, Jake here, because I want you.

585
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,799
Speaker 3: I want you to continue this point the the internet

586
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,559
sort of dropping for a minute. We'll get back to

587
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,359
you in a second. Uh, let me know whenever that

588
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,400
stream catches up to Because I never went through a

589
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,119
position go change. Actually, I was very rarely fortunate in

590
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,200
that I had the same coach for.

591
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: For five years.

592
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,559
Speaker 3: But even coach to drawa who I love dearly was

593
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:18,279
more of a film guy, scheme guy, kind of a

594
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,279
motivating guy, but less technique, whereas like Ben Wilkerson had

595
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:23,000
to be added to the mix to really give us

596
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:28,920
the full full coaching that we needed. Jake, So what

597
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:34,200
happened when you went through a position coach change?

598
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: No? No good? Okay, never mind, all right, let's do this.

599
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: We'll continue to react to the Bo Davis news when

600
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,519
we get back as well. I do want to get

601
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:46,559
to Hester's combine journey. And I was planning on talking

602
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:51,640
about Derek Carr stayin as the New Orleans Saints quarterbacks,

603
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,119
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604
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Speaker 3: Bodavis reportedly, according to Luke Johnson, who does an excellent

627
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628
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629
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:10,799
Davis being hired away from LSU to coach the New

630
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Orleans Saints, and it's it's a bit of a weird

631
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,839
thing to react to, as most people who are Saints

632
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,240
fans are also LSU fans. It's, on one hand, you

633
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,759
should be happy that at a time when the Saints

634
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,160
are trying to find their way, they add a one

635
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,440
of the best defensive line coaches to try to help

636
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,359
guys like Brian Berze in this new defensive line that

637
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,920
you'll probably invest even more to try to develop and whatnot.

638
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,359
Speaker 1: But you're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

639
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,319
Speaker 3: You're taking away from your favorite college team. And here's

640
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,359
maybe the most disappointing part. So Sylvain on Twitter says,

641
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,279
not only are the Saints bad, they can't let ls

642
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:52,880
be great.

643
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,119
Speaker 1: So I think I.

644
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: Think, to me, the sentiment there I do agree with,

645
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,519
which is that and look, I'm happy for bothavis personally

646
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,400
because the NFL life is way better than the Cobbs life.

647
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,440
But the sentiment there I do agree with in that

648
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:14,880
Bo Davis means multiple orders of magnitude more to LSU

649
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,759
than he will to the New Orleans Saints. There's no

650
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,400
recruiting in the NFL. Bo Davis is an expert level recruiter.

651
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:27,400
Like and the Saints are so bad. This does not

652
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,039
all of a sudden make them good. It makes them better,

653
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,160
but it doesn't make them good, doesn't make them playoff team,

654
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,839
nothing like that. Whereas with LSU, Bo Davis I viewed

655
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,079
as a key piece of any potential champion pursuits that

656
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,839
you would have over the next few years. So maybe

657
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,359
that's if you're purely an LSU fan, that's maybe, or

658
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,759
or even give me your afraid of both. That's the most

659
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:52,400
complicated thing to parse in my mind is I'm happy

660
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,359
for Bo. It's good for the Saints, but the impact

661
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200
on LSU is greater. The absence of Bo Davis is

662
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,519
a greater impact LSU than it is in the addition

663
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:04,640
for the Saints.

664
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm not a Saints fan, so I can

665
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:14,599
be really mad this. Gosh, you said it perfectly there.

666
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,559
Like he's a great coach, like on the field, and

667
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,480
I've known Bo forever. I mean he was an assistant

668
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,000
in the weight room. Yeah, when I first got to LSU.

669
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:24,960
I mean, that's that's kind of where he started after

670
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,759
he played at LSU. So I've known Bo for a

671
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,440
long time and you could always tell he was going

672
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,839
to be a really good football coach and a great motivator.

673
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,359
And it's no surprise that he crushed it on the

674
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,319
recruiting trail. So he's going to make the Saints defensive

675
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:40,359
line better. I don't think there's any question about that.

676
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,480
But you do take away a skill set that he

677
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,960
had that was elite.

678
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:46,759
Speaker 4: You don't recruit in the NFL.

679
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,759
Speaker 2: You're right to like people beg and scratch and claw

680
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,759
to be in the NFL. They do whatever they can.

681
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,039
They you know, we got a whole group in Indie

682
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:56,960
right now trying to make it to the NFL and

683
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680
be the next stars of the National Football League. So

684
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,599
you don't have to do that. So you know, that's

685
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,160
probably something maybe he enjoys that. You know, maybe he's

686
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,960
really good at it, but he doesn't enjoy it. I mean,

687
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,800
there's skills that all of us have that maybe we're

688
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,840
good at that doesn't mean that we like it. So,

689
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,239
you know, for him personally, he can just go coach

690
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,880
football now, which if he's getting paid close to the

691
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,840
same that he was at LSU, I'm sure that he's

692
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,599
excited about that. But there's there's no show that can

693
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,320
come on here today and tell you this isn't a

694
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,239
major loss for LSU. And if they tell you that,

695
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,800
they're either lying to you or they don't know ball.

696
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,480
That's just the way to put it. This is a

697
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,719
big loss for LSU. It is not going to be

698
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,079
something where you just handwaive this. Bo Davis on the

699
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,360
field off the field in recruiting was a big benefit

700
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,599
for you, And when you got him from Texas, we

701
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:51,239
were all celebrating. Yeah, in the transfer portal too, not

702
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,920
just high school recruiting, like because Bo Diddley can go

703
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,920
out there and be like, hey, here's who you know

704
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,800
I've put into the NFL, and hey, you've got one

705
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,039
more year left and I can do that for you.

706
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,599
I mean, so it wasn't just high school. It's gonna

707
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,599
be the portal, it's gonna be on the field stuff.

708
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,559
And I think as much as you know, this is

709
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,239
going to probably help the New Orleans Saints on the field.

710
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 4: It's a massive loss for LSU on and off the field.

711
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: So let's let's en wrap this Bo Davis talk by

712
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,320
talking about a couple of potential names. Obviously, Chad is

713
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,559
saying coach Joe, which, to be fair, would actually be

714
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,119
great because that's a guy who's an even you know,

715
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,840
probably like I mean, legitimately almost goat status recruiting wise.

716
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: Everywhere.

717
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,079
Speaker 3: He's been an incredible resume of guys that he sent

718
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:44,480
to the league, an incredible technician. But there's just no chance,

719
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920
right once you have supped from the head coaching cup,

720
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,119
you're not gonna come back and be d line coach.

721
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Vance Joseph was a head coach of the Broncos. Now

722
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,599
he's a defense coordinator.

723
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe a bit different in the NFL and a

724
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,360
plus with the added context of how things ended with

725
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:08,320
O and BKA and everything coming in, and.

726
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: That would be the dream. So I don't think that's happening.

727
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: I don't know though. Jake like there's not. And this

728
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,039
is why Bo Davis was kind of interesting in singular,

729
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,920
there's not really a name out there that is going

730
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,400
to have a lot of recognition.

731
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: What is Ryan Nielsen doing nowadays?

732
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's a name I haven't thought about in

733
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,440
a long time.

734
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,039
Speaker 2: I mean, we had conversations about him, you know, potentially

735
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,239
being the coordinator at LSU for a long time. I'm

736
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,599
with you, and maybe there is a name like in

737
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,760
college football circles. But the thing with Bo is he

738
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,400
played at LSU, he was around LSU, and then when

739
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360
he wasn't around LSU, he was still around the SEC,

740
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,239
and so his name was always fresh on our mind.

741
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
And so yeah, there could be I mean, you're LSU.

742
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,480
You shoot for the moon. You don't just settle for somebody.

743
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,320
You go now, you go steal somebody, You go get

744
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,760
whoever the best one possibly that would entertaining coming to

745
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,599
Baton rouge. But you know, well we'll have to see,

746
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:06,719
like we'd have to be proven that he's better than

747
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Bo Davis, because again, Bo being a Tiger, being someone

748
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:13,119
that's been around the SEC, we just we know him better,

749
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,159
we know his resume better, we know the lure of

750
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:16,559
bo Davis a little bit better.

751
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: It looks like Ryan Nielsen is he was the decoordinator

752
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,920
for Jacksonville last season. He may have been fired to that.

753
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,519
Looks like he's a senior defensive assistant for the Bills

754
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,039
right now. So I mean, actually, maybe one interesting name.

755
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,760
And again this is just this is one that's just

756
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000
a bit headline gravy. Somebody and Chad said it though,

757
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:45,400
talking about Warren Sapp who's falling in love with coaching.

758
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,320
He's an assistant on Colorado's staff. I don't know, we'll see.

759
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,519
There's a million different options. I don't know the d

760
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,239
line scene well enough. But the big news here, good

761
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,320
for the Saints, worse for LSU Bo Davis leaving the Tigers,

762
00:37:58,639 --> 00:37:59,519
going to the Saints.

763
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,599
Speaker 1: When we get back.

764
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787
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Speaker 1: We have you for one more segment after this? Are

788
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:09,239
you out? After this?

789
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: I am here till eight fifteen? Sir?

790
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay? Then what did you start? Why did you

791
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start to take us?

792
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Speaker 3: Then you wrote an article for Louisiana Sports dot net

793
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,639
about with the NFL combine is actually like right, more

794
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,559
than a test you mental. You mentioned the hospital gauntlet,

795
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,000
changing jobs, the whiteboard battle with Jack del Rio. What

796
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,360
do these guys actually go through this week?

797
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we had a meeting yesterday and Matt

798
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,239
it's like, hey, if you want to write something, I'm

799
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:46,559
sure we invite it all. And I'm like, well, I'm

800
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,800
a meathead. I've never written anything, but I'll give it

801
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,719
a try. And so I just I was like, okay,

802
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,119
well the combine's going on right now. I know a

803
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:55,440
little bit about that. I went through the process. Now

804
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,639
it's a long time ago, it was seventeen years ago,

805
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,679
but it's still the same for the most part. And

806
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,639
my whole point was just to and our listener. You know,

807
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,480
our listeners have heard me tell stories about this before.

808
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:14,159
But it is more mental to me than physical. And

809
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,440
it starts as soon as you get off the plane.

810
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,360
When you get off the plane, you get you know,

811
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,960
on a bus, in a car whatever, a group of two, three, four,

812
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:26,119
five of you, and you go straight to the hospital.

813
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,079
And that's like the first mental grind, the first mental test.

814
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,280
And I had never missed a game in my life,

815
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,800
like just did I didn't miss games high school, college,

816
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,079
like just didn't happen.

817
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: And I was still there for nine hours, and I

818
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,599
was in and out of MRI machines. They're tugging, they're pulling.

819
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,639
Speaker 2: And I always tell people, like, if you weren't injured

820
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:49,519
when you went to the hospital, you're going to feel

821
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:50,800
like you were injured when you left.

822
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: That's just like what the process is like.

823
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: And Tee, that's the first kind of mental hurdle because

824
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,079
as soon as you spend nine hours, you know, hours

825
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,000
in the hospital, Well then you immediately go and start

826
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,800
having like little breakout sessions with different teams. And it

827
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,679
can be you and the running back coach, it can

828
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,360
be you and the coordinator. Sometimes you go up and

829
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,400
it's you and the entire Seattle Seahawks staff, everybody, head, coach, GM,

830
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,039
owner and so like, you just spent nine hours at

831
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:19,639
the hospital.

832
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: Now you've got to be right back on your game.

833
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: And you know, I told a story about me and

834
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,800
Jack del Rio going back and forth the other day,

835
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,960
but that's what it was. For fifteen straight minutes. He's

836
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,119
given me every defensive scheme possible. Here's your offensive situation.

837
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,320
How would you handle if I brought strike blitz? What

838
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
if I brought Lynch Blitz. What if I brought Cowboy Blitz.

839
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,119
What if we ran this run Blitz and you had

840
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,239
his own run? Which gap are you going to try

841
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,119
to press and hit the most? And it was I mean,

842
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:46,960
I'm you know, I'm fresh out of college and I'm

843
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,559
going head to head with Jack del Rio. Yeah, And

844
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,119
we later were together in Denver. He's like, oh, I

845
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:54,880
was always hardest on the running backs because I was

846
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,519
a linebacker.

847
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,599
Speaker 4: I tried to get you all the time, and so

848
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:58,000
it's fun.

849
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I felt that, I felt that press, sure,

850
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,679
and so like that's a portion of it. And then

851
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,760
like for me, I'm going from full or sorry tail

852
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920
back in college to full back in the NFL. Those

853
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,239
aren't the same positions, and so bench press was really

854
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:12,960
important for me.

855
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,679
Speaker 4: And I've told you this story one hundred times.

856
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,519
Speaker 2: But I'm chalked up, taped up, ready to go, like

857
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,320
in my head playing like heavy metal. I'm about to

858
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,559
get under the bench and they're like, actually, guys, let's

859
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,119
go take the Wonderlig test real quick.

860
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what, I got to talk on my hands?

861
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,079
Speaker 2: You think I give a damn about a wonder Lig test,

862
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,000
But that was another mental hurdle. They were trying to

863
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,280
see if we could pass to go from you know,

864
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,079
turn up to an eleven to the wonder lig and

865
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,840
then come back and then bench as well. And I mean,

866
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,039
it's just it's that time and time and time again,

867
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,559
and then like the forty yard dash is such an

868
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,760
important thing, and I was disappointed in my time. Now

869
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,760
looking back on it, it wasn't that big of a deal.

870
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,519
I wanted to run a four or five to three

871
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,440
and it ran a four, five nine and a four

872
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,320
to six one, Like, it's not that big a deal.

873
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,880
But I remember there was a Green Bay packer scout

874
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,159
that came over to me. It's like, hey, like I

875
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:02,239
can tell your disappoint in, but chill out. Basically, he's like,

876
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,800
we all saw you in November and get up and

877
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,039
catch Kareem Jackson from behind on an interception. We know

878
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:09,920
how fast you can run on a field with full

879
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,239
pads on. Hell, He's like, that didn't matter. Go make

880
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,039
sure that you forget about it, kind of like the

881
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:18,400
Caju you can and went snap and clear and go

882
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,920
finish the rest of the day, Finish strong here in Indy.

883
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,000
And it was like the best advice that I'd ever gotten.

884
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,000
I don't even know that you know.

885
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: This guy, Oh wow, man, yeah, that's great.

886
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: Didn't even get the guy's name. He just like said

887
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,559
it to me, and I'm like, man, that is great.

888
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,519
That is incredible advice. And so I just wrote about it,

889
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:36,079
wrote about my experience kind of the mental grind. I

890
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,719
think it's more mental than physical. They already know physically

891
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,559
what you can do. Now you got to go show

892
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:41,519
them you can do it mentally.

893
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: So guys go check that out Luisiana Sports on that

894
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,239
and recognize when somebody does test very well. Now you

895
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,760
have the context of everything that's going on our two.

896
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,519
Speaker 4: Next, yeah, off the bench.

