Speaker 1: Let's all start to it.
Speaker 2: You want to presents Off the bench with Jacob Hester
and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, off the bench with Jacob
Hester and C Bob.
Speaker 4: Aber I gotta come off the bitch.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Welcome in, Oh too.
Speaker 3: February twenty seven, twenty twenty five. It is Thursday, actually
Thursday this time, and I'm really excited for today's show.
We got a great show, as Taylor just kind of
laid out there. We're gonna run the gamut. Thursday always
meets Mounchy Shnanigan, ton of stuff and basically the weekend
starts today, guys, so let's have ourselves at time.
Speaker 1: I'm T Bob Abert.
Speaker 3: We got Taylor Sharp here and Cindio Jakes joined us remotely,
and we got what I'm very excited about. We got
our girl, Alandra Vireal back from the Big Apple and
she is is pining for the Big Apple. You know
how it is when you visit that city as a
young person and you're absolutely infected and infused with its
energy and romance and potential, and you want to move
there and see if you can make it there. Ladra,
how are we feeling on the other side of your trip.
Speaker 1: To uh Manhattan?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you pretty much said it. But I've
always wanted to live there, like ever since I was
a kid.
Speaker 1: I have always like my I didn't go to New.
Speaker 5: York until I was like, mmm, in my twenties, I think,
like I think I was maybe nineteen, I don't know, yeah,
but like my whole life, like I was just enthralled
with it, and then like the first time I went,
I was like, oh my god, I love it here,
and then I don't know, every time I go, like,
I just love it so much, and I wish I could.
I wish I could like find a job out there.
I would so move out there.
Speaker 3: We have, Look, we have an OTV to Barstool Pipeline,
as we've sent Megan making Money and Ben Mint up
to Barstool before. We also have an OTV in New
York pipeline though Nathan Belasquez and Sammy Flavors Yeah, both
uh through you know, jumped into the deep end and
moved up there and have now made it our and
are living. It's funny though, because in my own personal life.
I think I went through the exact same experience you
as a kid through movies and stuff, right obsessed with it.
And I think my mom actually took me the first
time and like my eleventh birthday, fell in love with it.
Went back a couple more times, and then pretty much
my twenties, me and wife would go every single year,
and every time I would go because even my sister
ended up moving up there and starting a business and
so she did that whole deal.
Speaker 1: So every time I went, I thought like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just want to throw it all away,
whant to move here and see if I can make
it right. The energy of the city's incredible, it's infectious.
But that's how I knew I was getting old. Yeah,
because the last time I went, a couple of years ago,
we brought both kids up.
Speaker 1: We only had two at.
Speaker 3: The time, and I'll be damned, for the first time
in my life, I didn't just feel like a country group.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 3: I was looking at the buildings and I was like, well, damn, Bollamo,
some big building over there, and I'm kind of like,
there's a lot of people that live in here. Man.
Speaker 1: This is this is pretty crazy to me.
Speaker 3: Man, so I think it's kind of sad to say, yeah,
but I think I missed my boat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're really.
Speaker 5: About it, yeah, I kind of feel like I missed
it a little bit already. But I think my southernness
started to show a little bit when I went to
this play. And this play was a little crazy, and
my aunts were like, what did you think about it?
And I was like, it was a little too much
for me, but it was kind of funny at times.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll tell you off air about and y'all know,
I got some pretty dirty experiences and without a doubt,
the most hedonistic, weird, depraved night of my entire life
at a New York place called the Lodge one time.
Speaker 1: Jakie, what's going on, man, how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: I got a dental appointment because, as I told y'all
a couple of weeks ago, I'm a real redneck and
swallowed one of my caps and so now I've got
to go actually get a replaced because I didn't want
to get on.
Speaker 4: A cruise ship and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: Have a situation where the temporary one popped off and
I'm in the middle of the ocean, and I can't
really do anything about it.
Speaker 4: So I got to go get that fixed. And Alandra,
I'm glad you had.
Speaker 2: A great time in New York, but the Yankees hat
still makes me better. Nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: I remember those as well growing up in Atlanta. That's
the reason why I hated the Yankees growing up. Certainly
took a couple of World Series from those amazing Braves
team who's still despite the fifteen divisions in a row,
only got one championship. All the Marlins and the same
stretch took home two, which has to be one of
the craziest sports factoids in history. Jake also wrote an
article for Louisiana Sports Done that about his time at
the Combine and with the Combine really entails, so I'm
excited to pick his brain there as the NFL Combines underway.
Saints that availability yesterday. We'll get into what they had
to say. But last night LSU Top twenty matchup on
the Diamond. Let's go ahead and get this thing started.
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Speaker 3: So last night LSU DBU in in Texas and LSU
comes away with a seven to three win, and it's
it's a bit of an interesting game in that I mean,
that's a good it's a good final score. It's top
twenty teen, seven to three, without a doubt. However, it
could have been much worse. LSU left a lot of
meat on the bone, while DBU actually kind of made
the most of the meat that they were offered. Because
when you look at it statistically, I mean, what is
the favor I think it was like twelve hits to
three by the end of the game. But LSU goes
three of sixteen with runners in scoring position. They left
fifteen runners on base, whereas so LS you had twenty
six at bats. I don't hunt Palmer losing to sports
on that breakdown, they had twenty six at bats with
runners on DBU had six only have three men on base.
So it's a weird game where the score is not
like there's nothing to kind of turn your nose up
at it. It's a four run win over a top
twenty team, but the score is a bit closer than
the flow of the game, as LSU was great at
the plate until it came time to send guys home,
and was great on the mound save for just giving
up a couple of home runs. Do a DVU lineup,
like we said yesterday, that is very powerful.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean everything that you said is certainly true.
And by the way, whoever continue to try to sabotage
the stream, like what are we doing here? I mean
flow Sports of all people is able to keep it
down a little bit. But to your point, t of
the game. It didn't maybe play out the way that
a normal game would play out when you dominate them
and you have twelve hits and they only have three.
But still, at the end of the day, like you said,
like they came up with the hits when they needed them.
You ambushed them early, which I thought was important getting
a run. I know you wanted more in the first
but still you were able to get on the board.
Speaker 4: That felt like it was big in the game.
Speaker 2: Pitching was lights out, and so sure, like we can
sit here and we could talk about the people you
left on base. That's never what you want to do,
and I know there's a situation where you try to
squeeze play. It certainly didn't work in your favor, and
a lot of people are going to point to that,
But at the end of the day, you still went
on the road in somebody's hometown and you beat a
really good baseball team, And so sure there's things that
you could point to you wish they went a little
bit better for you, But I did like a lot
of what I saw, certainly like the table setters for LSU,
the top of the lineup getting four hits, and like
I said, scoring in the first inning there.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of good.
Speaker 2: And it was a good win for LSU, and that's
going to be one whenever talk to Jay later on,
he's going to tell you that's a massive win. It's
a win against a team that's probably gonna win their
conference championship. And it might seem, you know, here into
February like it doesn't matter, but that is going to
play all season long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I don't bring up I don't want
to be misconstrued here. I don't bring up the runners
left onto the meat left and the bone to try
to highlight the negative here. I'm merely trying to give
shape to how the game played out, because I think
if we take a step back and you look at, Okay,
what problems would you want to have after a game
like this?
Speaker 1: That's a good problem to have.
Speaker 3: Like LSU is going to strand a lot of guys
this year just because they're going to put a lot
of people on base because they are so good in
that lineup, or they have been up to this point.
Like if you're telling me that the biggest problem is
plating guys, hitting its runners and scoring position, like I
know Jay Jobbs can figure that out. So I love
when I see again only one error defensively, I love,
I mean the arms, The arms continue to impress. Connor
Ware comes out there on fire for perfect inning. Six
k's on sixty pitches. Now obviously got ends up getting
chased in the fifth, but that's a guy who if
he keeps this up, I don't know, man. Maybe he
even starts to threaten a weekend spot, depending what happens there.
Zach Collen comes in and is a bit of an
early wobble, but then I love seeing him recover. He
goes three runs in the three and in striking out
five gets to win.
Speaker 1: And and and then you have we're thinking.
Speaker 3: A little sketchy, And I like having to play in
late game situations where a play has to be made
and really played. A highlight there would be after LSU
stranded about a million runners in the seventh and eighth,
d WU comes up and thanks to a couple of
Cooper Williams walks, uh, they have the bases loaded. Bottom
of the eighth, one out. Cason Evans comes in and
you can say it's a bit of luck, and sure
it is, but the play had to be made, both
by Evans and by bar Jones at first, but he
adduces a liner that Bear Jones catches steps from the bag,
double play, ending over threat over in the case, and
Evans calmly closes it out in the ninth.
Speaker 1: So again, annelis game with way.
Speaker 3: More good than bad, and as Jake pointed out, a
big RPI win for LSU that could potentially bear some
fruit and and well, no matter how much of an
impact it has, will have a positive impact on the
resume comes season's end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see when you look at the players at
LSU's able to throw out there on the mound this
year compared to last year. And this isn't rhetorical, Like
I'm asking you, I feel just incredibly you better about
the situation. I just feel more confident about the situation,
like I saw. I'm asking you, like I'm not trying
to put an answer in front of you, but I
know that's how I feel. Like you look at some
of the arms they have coming in the back end
of the game, and it's just like, gosh, ninety seven
ninety seven, Like everybody they throw in there is somebody
that looks like they could go finish a game for you,
Like it just feels different, right, Uh.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's unbelievable, dude, it is.
Speaker 3: It feels like and I know this is I think
been like a common line of message boards and stuff,
so I guess I'm stealing this through.
Speaker 1: Just internet osmosis.
Speaker 3: But it does feel a bit like this staff is
the staff that I thought they had last year where
he talked.
Speaker 1: About them having an overwhelming amount.
Speaker 3: Of options, almost too many arms, like they really actually
have almost too many arms now to have where and
Cowen and Evans as like, your midweek options are insane?
Those would be weekend guys for the majority of people
and what so those aren't even the first arms out
of the pen on the week I mean maybe they are, like,
but we'll see how this all shakes out eventually, but yes,
there is a what was where Blake Baker was talking
about the LSU Davids a couple weeks ago, and he's
about the idea that now he feels like they have
competitive depth. This is the chance which is a hallmark
of any championship caliber team. And this staff has more
competitive depth than any that I have seen since I've
been covering this LSU baseball team, which I mean admittedly
is probably a little under ten years, but it is
shocking the amount of options that they have.
Speaker 1: You could tell that.
Speaker 3: Coach Johnson not wanting to feel the same way that
he felt last year and the first year when he
took over this team, and he's I'm gonna kind of
squeeze blood from the stones. Nate Yesky doing a great
job a second year on the job, finally retaining a
pitching coach. So yeah, they're fantastic right now. Alander, you're
a resident LSU baseball head. I know you were traveling yesterday,
so I don't know how much you got to see
or not, But what are your kind of just thoughts
on the team the win at DBU.
Speaker 5: Yeah, unfortunately I didn't get to watch the game last
night because I was traveling. But I pricked up about
like when you said Nate Yesky, because I'm very glad
that people are finally seeing because I feel like I
was like dying on a hill last season. Like I
don't know if y'all remember, but the Nate Yessky talk
was pretty negative last severy negative, and I was like, no,
he is good, like I promise you, And so I'm
glad that, like that is moving in.
Speaker 1: A positive direction.
Speaker 4: But also like I also.
Speaker 5: Kind of hope that people stop with the lack of
competition talk, because we just beat a top twenty teen
seventy three, which is a great score, like you said earlier, So.
Speaker 1: Didn't set him lose last night as well? I'm not sure. Yeah,
they lost, I mean it doesn't really matter, but like whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, I'm just like y'all excited to
see the rest of this tournament. And I think that
LSU is in a really good spot right now with
the bullpen and the offense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean again, like the the the problems
last night are good problems I have at this point
in k TE.
Speaker 1: You got anything to add on the way out here.
Speaker 6: You may have found a closer in case and Evans,
I'll tell you that he uh you remember opening weekend
he looked really good as well. And yeah, well Gavin
Gidrey is going to get the first shot at that
one sec players.
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned that on this show. He's hurt by
the way.
Speaker 6: J Johnson, Yes, yes, but again, the more that Lingers,
you're gonna have to have somebody come in. You mentioned
in the seventh inning, like this game was still pretty tight.
You go to a guy whose first year is on
the team, get him the eighth and ninth inning. He
gives up no hits in the eighth and ninth inning.
He's looked phenomenal at the back end of these bullpen
rotations multiple.
Speaker 1: Weeks in a row. Now, uh so.
Speaker 3: Uh a really great night for LSU baseball and a
top twenty win here early on in the season. So
this team, which so much potential, continues to trend in
the right way. How many weeks away away from conference play?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 4: Three? Damn?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got three weeks.
Speaker 2: You've got North Dakota State coming up, You've got North
Alabama coming up, and then I think you get Miszoo,
who's struggling right now.
Speaker 3: Bad uh So excited to see the rest of this
time in plays up Coming up next here on O
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to Jake about what it's actually like. Boots on the
ground at the combine. More off the bench coming up.
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Whoever the UL people are reporting, Cajun, you are the
scum of the earth.
Speaker 1: You freaking suck.
Speaker 3: If you know this guy personally, whoever this is, and
you are listening to this, let him know that the
firm stance of off the bench, of everybody really in
this area, and of many other SEC fan bases as well,
is that you are trash.
Speaker 1: You are scum.
Speaker 3: You are a boot liquor, you are a water carrier
for who, for copyright people like, get off your knees,
you suck whoever you are and let it be not
like next time you go to do something like this.
I'm sure you're little your your little troll self probably
gets offty hearing this, but it doesn't matter. It needs
to be said anyway. You're just on fun. You're probably
miserable at parties. And I doubt that we would get
along if we were to meet casually.
Speaker 1: And I hope you stub your toe today.
Speaker 6: Why does the University of Louisville hate the kjun homis broadcast?
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know. I'm not I'm not. I'm not
doing this. I was gonna not doing this dance. I'm
not doing this dance. Also, Stephen Ridley, apparently Chad s
telling me, went on Julian Edelman's podcast and called Jake
the the baddest white boy ever, which you know, fair absolutely,
But he also told a story about someone defecating on
themselves during the one ten test. Now I'll say this
and Chad saying that it was me, it was not me.
Speaker 1: I will not name I will not name who it
is because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: But I will say this about Ridley is that he
did not actually witness or experience it because this was
one ten test day and used to run according to group,
and so this was during the big skill one ten tests.
Speaker 1: Because of course it was right.
Speaker 3: So again Ridley ended up seeing the aftermath because they
couldn't clean it up for the other groups.
Speaker 1: But basically, if.
Speaker 3: You did not make your one tens in time, you
would have to wake up during camp at five am
and run.
Speaker 1: I had to do it. It was miserable before two days awful.
Speaker 3: But if you didn't make your times, you had to
do that right, And so the thing was you better
make your times.
Speaker 1: And okay, well, I think we got some news in
a second.
Speaker 3: But but basically one of our teammates around repped like
A or nine. When you're in the dead middle and
you're really struggling and you're trying to push through mentally,
one of our teammates just pulled his girdle to the side,
and just defecated on the ground.
Speaker 1: And it's about seven am.
Speaker 3: The little dew in the air, and it was steamy
and hot and of a texture that you would not enjoy, right,
sort of a pancake mix sort of thing going on.
So it was one of the more disgusting things I've
ever seen. And all the coaches did was put orange
cones around it. And you know, not even a second
of a break, not even you got forty five seconds
between reps. We didn't even get fifty five, not a
second lost. And credit to the man himself, he ended
up passing that test.
Speaker 6: He does this mid run like never breakstride, No.
Speaker 1: No, he does it the forty five seconds.
Speaker 3: So after he finishes round in the end zone, he
pulls his girl to the side and just you know,
steams it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that didn't happen. It was crazy as nasty today
as it was then.
Speaker 3: And they left it on there for the you know,
until they for the rest of the every group to see.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, somebody said, is this is this true?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if this is true, So we'll
find out within a couple minutes. Somebody said bo did
lead to the Saints we talking about We're not talking.
Speaker 4: About yeah, Bo Davis.
Speaker 2: So, according to Luke Johnson, the Saints are expected to
hire Bo Davis to be their defensive line coach, according
to a league source, adding another coach from the college rinks.
Of course, Davis most recently words as a defensive line
coach at LSU and is considered one of the NCAA's
a better d line coaches.
Speaker 4: Kitlyn Moore, I'll fight.
Speaker 3: You, oh man, that's a big hit for LSU. I mean,
they paid a million and a half dollars to get
Bo Diddley.
Speaker 4: Kellen.
Speaker 3: He's an elite technician, he's an elite recruiter. I guarantee
he's absolutely sick of the college game. I mean, remember
when he's berating Texas players a couple of years ago
about their toughness and everything.
Speaker 1: And now when when you think about the.
Speaker 3: Players that he's got to deal with the transferport of
everything else like a long time college coach, Like, yeah,
the NFL. Plus they probably paid him more, right, I
imagine you have to even that's a lot of money
for an NFL, A.
Speaker 4: Lot of money for NFL actually.
Speaker 3: Almost, I mean, I wonder, I wonder. I mean, but
would he leave, Like, is that how miserable he is
with the new generation of players that he would leave
for less money. But man, that is a big hit
at a not a great time of the year of
the hiring kind.
Speaker 1: Of cycle for LSU here.
Speaker 3: I mean, what bo Davis did with last year's deepense
of line was fantastic.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, you talked about a position group
that just left a lot to be desired with this,
you know who you had available. There was some misses
in the transfer portal, which I mean maybe I guess
looking back retrospect, they weren't as big as we thought
they were with the players and how much they actually
received and what they did with their team. But he
took a defensive line that was held together with duct
tape and super glue and made them respectable. Like they
weren't the best in the SEC, but with who they
had and who they were rolling in there, they played
damn hard and they played above their ceiling like gopi
as is somebody that went in there and you got
literally the most that you possibly could. And then you
started to play some of these young defensive linemen. You
could see them by the end of the year that
they were ready to play in the SEC, and so
I think a lot of people were excited because you know,
that group got elevated this year. You can have a
you know, a better opportunity to go be one of
the top, maybe deep in the fronts in the SEC.
Speaker 4: I think your talent went up there.
Speaker 2: And Bo Davis is somebody that everybody knows what he
can do. He did it at Alabama, did Texas, did
it here in a single year back at LSU, and
so yeah, there's no way to sit here and like
shrug that all.
Speaker 4: That's a major loss for LSU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, if I wanted to maybe you know, temper
some of the disaster here, you still have Kevin Peeples
and that's the guy who works with the edges. And
so don't attribute the success of Swinson and Savan Jones
and those guys on the edge to Bo Davis. But man,
from a recruiting vibe technician standpoint, yeah, I mean there's
a Again, there's a reason why Bo Davis was paid
a million and a half dollars a year to come
be LSU's defensive line coach.
Speaker 1: What's funny about this is at a time and when.
Speaker 3: At a time, Yeah, okay, Nookie says, Louisiana fans are
pissed of the same. How can we make it worse?
And in time when people already are starting to loathe
Mickey Loomis, loathe Mickey Loomis, he hits him with the
one two of hey, we're committed to Derek Carr and hey,
I'm hiring Bo.
Speaker 1: Davis away from your favorite college team.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2: It's not good, not good, not a great time for
the Saints. And we were doing so well. We were
so excited about all the hires that you were making
and bringing in nuss Meyer to be EUROC and Staley
to be your DC and Terry Joseph, uh somebody that
was you know, is a part of the Joseph family,
which is you know, obviously a huge name of Louisiana
Shawl legend. All of it was going so so well,
and now you're stealing one of the best coaches at
LSU had.
Speaker 4: There goes the momentum.
Speaker 1: Damn Mickey.
Speaker 3: Huge bummer for the players themselves, as I mean, who
do you? I mean, well again, let's see you. They
end up being replaced with. But like as a player
with a position, coach when you know you have one
of the greats. That is inherently exciting because Bo Davis's
resume is such that he doesn't have to convince you
to trust him.
Speaker 1: I always talk about it.
Speaker 3: The main thing that you want from a player to
coach relationship is do I have full concrete trust that
if I do what you're telling me, that it's going
to make me better, even if I think it sounds
a bit weird or maybe a bit crazy doesn't work.
And when you have that trust or the coach, it's
one of the best feelings in the world. Those are
the coaches that you remember for the entirety of your life.
Bo Davis's resume and skins on the wall were such
that when you walked into that room, you immediately.
Speaker 1: Trusted him. You didn't have to be convinced. It didn't
have to be to you.
Speaker 3: Who knows if that's the case with the next guy,
and I want to be paid for clear by this.
Speaker 1: I have seen some.
Speaker 3: Position coaches that I would not describe as very good coaches.
Speaker 1: Now generally they'll have a strength.
Speaker 3: Maybe this guy's better at recruiting, Maybe this guy's better
at scheme, maybe this guy's better at technique, but Davis
was one of the best at combining all of the
different elements there. I mean I knew a coach one
time that we convinced that when we were in the
indoor that we shouldn't have practiced on the end zones
because they were more slippery. I mean, it's all the
exact same turf. So like it, can you better hire
well because you can certainly hire poorly?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I agree with you there.
Speaker 2: And you can get to even a place like LSU
and not be the best football coach and you're strictly
a recruiter and you get on like the board in
front of his position group and you're like, wait a minute,
do I know more than you? Yeah, I mean, no
situations happened. Maybe maybe that's changed a little bit. Recruiting
certainly different than when you and I were in college football.
Speaker 4: But one thing that I'm gonna be paying attention to now.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like Jacob and Gillory, he's had multiple multiple.
Speaker 4: D line coaches.
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him, right, I Mean, this is
somebody that he's been here a long time. He's going
to be a leader. But like, now, okay, am I
bro Dominic McKinley. Man, you you have to think that
they are going really tough to struggle with this for
a little bit because that was their guy when they
got in as a freshman. And I had a position
coach change and a head coaching change when I was
a freshman.
Speaker 4: It's tough. It's like, man, wait a minute, true.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, Jake here, because I want you.
Speaker 3: I want you to continue this point the the internet
sort of dropping for a minute. We'll get back to
you in a second. Uh, let me know whenever that
stream catches up to Because I never went through a
position go change. Actually, I was very rarely fortunate in
that I had the same coach for.
Speaker 1: For five years.
Speaker 3: But even coach to drawa who I love dearly was
more of a film guy, scheme guy, kind of a
motivating guy, but less technique, whereas like Ben Wilkerson had
to be added to the mix to really give us
the full full coaching that we needed. Jake, So what
happened when you went through a position coach change?
Speaker 1: No? No good? Okay, never mind, all right, let's do this.
Speaker 3: We'll continue to react to the Bo Davis news when
we get back as well. I do want to get
to Hester's combine journey. And I was planning on talking
about Derek Carr stayin as the New Orleans Saints quarterbacks,
So we'll do that as well at some point. Keep
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Speaker 3: Bodavis reportedly, according to Luke Johnson, who does an excellent
job covering the New Orleans Saints for the time Speak
of You and Nolan dot Com, Luke Johnsonson that bo
Davis being hired away from LSU to coach the New
Orleans Saints, and it's it's a bit of a weird
thing to react to, as most people who are Saints
fans are also LSU fans. It's, on one hand, you
should be happy that at a time when the Saints
are trying to find their way, they add a one
of the best defensive line coaches to try to help
guys like Brian Berze in this new defensive line that
you'll probably invest even more to try to develop and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But you're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Speaker 3: You're taking away from your favorite college team. And here's
maybe the most disappointing part. So Sylvain on Twitter says,
not only are the Saints bad, they can't let ls
be great.
Speaker 1: So I think I.
Speaker 3: Think, to me, the sentiment there I do agree with,
which is that and look, I'm happy for bothavis personally
because the NFL life is way better than the Cobbs life.
But the sentiment there I do agree with in that
Bo Davis means multiple orders of magnitude more to LSU
than he will to the New Orleans Saints. There's no
recruiting in the NFL. Bo Davis is an expert level recruiter.
Like and the Saints are so bad. This does not
all of a sudden make them good. It makes them better,
but it doesn't make them good, doesn't make them playoff team,
nothing like that. Whereas with LSU, Bo Davis I viewed
as a key piece of any potential champion pursuits that
you would have over the next few years. So maybe
that's if you're purely an LSU fan, that's maybe, or
or even give me your afraid of both. That's the most
complicated thing to parse in my mind is I'm happy
for Bo. It's good for the Saints, but the impact
on LSU is greater. The absence of Bo Davis is
a greater impact LSU than it is in the addition
for the Saints.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm not a Saints fan, so I can
be really mad this. Gosh, you said it perfectly there.
Like he's a great coach, like on the field, and
I've known Bo forever. I mean he was an assistant
in the weight room. Yeah, when I first got to LSU.
I mean, that's that's kind of where he started after
he played at LSU. So I've known Bo for a
long time and you could always tell he was going
to be a really good football coach and a great motivator.
And it's no surprise that he crushed it on the
recruiting trail. So he's going to make the Saints defensive
line better. I don't think there's any question about that.
But you do take away a skill set that he
had that was elite.
Speaker 4: You don't recruit in the NFL.
Speaker 2: You're right to like people beg and scratch and claw
to be in the NFL. They do whatever they can.
They you know, we got a whole group in Indie
right now trying to make it to the NFL and
be the next stars of the National Football League. So
you don't have to do that. So you know, that's
probably something maybe he enjoys that. You know, maybe he's
really good at it, but he doesn't enjoy it. I mean,
there's skills that all of us have that maybe we're
good at that doesn't mean that we like it. So,
you know, for him personally, he can just go coach
football now, which if he's getting paid close to the
same that he was at LSU, I'm sure that he's
excited about that. But there's there's no show that can
come on here today and tell you this isn't a
major loss for LSU. And if they tell you that,
they're either lying to you or they don't know ball.
That's just the way to put it. This is a
big loss for LSU. It is not going to be
something where you just handwaive this. Bo Davis on the
field off the field in recruiting was a big benefit
for you, And when you got him from Texas, we
were all celebrating. Yeah, in the transfer portal too, not
just high school recruiting, like because Bo Diddley can go
out there and be like, hey, here's who you know
I've put into the NFL, and hey, you've got one
more year left and I can do that for you.
I mean, so it wasn't just high school. It's gonna
be the portal, it's gonna be on the field stuff.
And I think as much as you know, this is
going to probably help the New Orleans Saints on the field.
Speaker 4: It's a massive loss for LSU on and off the field.
Speaker 3: So let's let's en wrap this Bo Davis talk by
talking about a couple of potential names. Obviously, Chad is
saying coach Joe, which, to be fair, would actually be
great because that's a guy who's an even you know,
probably like I mean, legitimately almost goat status recruiting wise.
Speaker 1: Everywhere.
Speaker 3: He's been an incredible resume of guys that he sent
to the league, an incredible technician. But there's just no chance,
right once you have supped from the head coaching cup,
you're not gonna come back and be d line coach.
Speaker 2: Vance Joseph was a head coach of the Broncos. Now
he's a defense coordinator.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe a bit different in the NFL and a
plus with the added context of how things ended with
O and BKA and everything coming in, and.
Speaker 1: That would be the dream. So I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 3: I don't know though. Jake like there's not. And this
is why Bo Davis was kind of interesting in singular,
there's not really a name out there that is going
to have a lot of recognition.
Speaker 1: What is Ryan Nielsen doing nowadays?
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's a name I haven't thought about in
a long time.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had conversations about him, you know, potentially
being the coordinator at LSU for a long time. I'm
with you, and maybe there is a name like in
college football circles. But the thing with Bo is he
played at LSU, he was around LSU, and then when
he wasn't around LSU, he was still around the SEC,
and so his name was always fresh on our mind.
And so yeah, there could be I mean, you're LSU.
You shoot for the moon. You don't just settle for somebody.
You go now, you go steal somebody, You go get
whoever the best one possibly that would entertaining coming to
Baton rouge. But you know, well we'll have to see,
like we'd have to be proven that he's better than
Bo Davis, because again, Bo being a Tiger, being someone
that's been around the SEC, we just we know him better,
we know his resume better, we know the lure of
bo Davis a little bit better.
Speaker 3: It looks like Ryan Nielsen is he was the decoordinator
for Jacksonville last season. He may have been fired to that.
Looks like he's a senior defensive assistant for the Bills
right now. So I mean, actually, maybe one interesting name.
And again this is just this is one that's just
a bit headline gravy. Somebody and Chad said it though,
talking about Warren Sapp who's falling in love with coaching.
He's an assistant on Colorado's staff. I don't know, we'll see.
There's a million different options. I don't know the d
line scene well enough. But the big news here, good
for the Saints, worse for LSU Bo Davis leaving the Tigers,
going to the Saints.
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Speaker 1: We have you for one more segment after this? Are
you out? After this?
Speaker 4: I am here till eight fifteen? Sir?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? Then what did you start? Why did you
start to take us?
Speaker 3: Then you wrote an article for Louisiana Sports dot net
about with the NFL combine is actually like right, more
than a test you mental. You mentioned the hospital gauntlet,
changing jobs, the whiteboard battle with Jack del Rio. What
do these guys actually go through this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we had a meeting yesterday and Matt
it's like, hey, if you want to write something, I'm
sure we invite it all. And I'm like, well, I'm
a meathead. I've never written anything, but I'll give it
a try. And so I just I was like, okay,
well the combine's going on right now. I know a
little bit about that. I went through the process. Now
it's a long time ago, it was seventeen years ago,
but it's still the same for the most part. And
my whole point was just to and our listener. You know,
our listeners have heard me tell stories about this before.
But it is more mental to me than physical. And
it starts as soon as you get off the plane.
When you get off the plane, you get you know,
on a bus, in a car whatever, a group of two, three, four,
five of you, and you go straight to the hospital.
And that's like the first mental grind, the first mental test.
And I had never missed a game in my life,
like just did I didn't miss games high school, college,
like just didn't happen.
Speaker 4: And I was still there for nine hours, and I
was in and out of MRI machines. They're tugging, they're pulling.
Speaker 2: And I always tell people, like, if you weren't injured
when you went to the hospital, you're going to feel
like you were injured when you left.
Speaker 4: That's just like what the process is like.
Speaker 2: And Tee, that's the first kind of mental hurdle because
as soon as you spend nine hours, you know, hours
in the hospital, Well then you immediately go and start
having like little breakout sessions with different teams. And it
can be you and the running back coach, it can
be you and the coordinator. Sometimes you go up and
it's you and the entire Seattle Seahawks staff, everybody, head, coach, GM,
owner and so like, you just spent nine hours at
the hospital.
Speaker 4: Now you've got to be right back on your game.
Speaker 2: And you know, I told a story about me and
Jack del Rio going back and forth the other day,
but that's what it was. For fifteen straight minutes. He's
given me every defensive scheme possible. Here's your offensive situation.
How would you handle if I brought strike blitz? What
if I brought Lynch Blitz. What if I brought Cowboy Blitz.
What if we ran this run Blitz and you had
his own run? Which gap are you going to try
to press and hit the most? And it was I mean,
I'm you know, I'm fresh out of college and I'm
going head to head with Jack del Rio. Yeah, And
we later were together in Denver. He's like, oh, I
was always hardest on the running backs because I was
a linebacker.
Speaker 4: I tried to get you all the time, and so
it's fun.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I felt that, I felt that press, sure,
and so like that's a portion of it. And then
like for me, I'm going from full or sorry tail
back in college to full back in the NFL. Those
aren't the same positions, and so bench press was really
important for me.
Speaker 4: And I've told you this story one hundred times.
Speaker 2: But I'm chalked up, taped up, ready to go, like
in my head playing like heavy metal. I'm about to
get under the bench and they're like, actually, guys, let's
go take the Wonderlig test real quick.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what, I got to talk on my hands?
Speaker 2: You think I give a damn about a wonder Lig test,
But that was another mental hurdle. They were trying to
see if we could pass to go from you know,
turn up to an eleven to the wonder lig and
then come back and then bench as well. And I mean,
it's just it's that time and time and time again,
and then like the forty yard dash is such an
important thing, and I was disappointed in my time. Now
looking back on it, it wasn't that big of a deal.
I wanted to run a four or five to three
and it ran a four, five nine and a four
to six one, Like, it's not that big a deal.
But I remember there was a Green Bay packer scout
that came over to me. It's like, hey, like I
can tell your disappoint in, but chill out. Basically, he's like,
we all saw you in November and get up and
catch Kareem Jackson from behind on an interception. We know
how fast you can run on a field with full
pads on. Hell, He's like, that didn't matter. Go make
sure that you forget about it, kind of like the
Caju you can and went snap and clear and go
finish the rest of the day, Finish strong here in Indy.
And it was like the best advice that I'd ever gotten.
I don't even know that you know.
Speaker 1: This guy, Oh wow, man, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: Didn't even get the guy's name. He just like said
it to me, and I'm like, man, that is great.
That is incredible advice. And so I just wrote about it,
wrote about my experience kind of the mental grind. I
think it's more mental than physical. They already know physically
what you can do. Now you got to go show
them you can do it mentally.
Speaker 3: So guys go check that out Luisiana Sports on that
and recognize when somebody does test very well. Now you
have the context of everything that's going on our two.
Speaker 4: Next, yeah, off the bench.