Speaker 1: Our article today is from Courthousenews dot com and the
headline is pandemic won't slow fight over sealed Jeffrey Epstein documents. Well,
that's good. I'm glad to hear that. You know, I
know that we're in the middle of the pandemic, and
you know, it's definitely a tough time for a lot
of people, but we have to keep some semblance of
the rule of law going right. We have to make
sure that the courts don't get backed up, and we
have to make sure that they're processing as many cases
as they possibly can. So it's good to know that
the pandemic isn't going to slow the fight over the
sealed documents in the Epstein case, because it's crucial that
those documents are published for the public to see. It's
very crucial that that ends up happening, because there's already
the air of secrecy around this whole entire thing. The
whole entire shroud has been thrown over this case from
the beginning. And if they keep on doing it, and
they keep on keeping things in the shadows and away
from the public, all they're going to do is foster
more resentment and foster more mistrust in them being the
Justice Department, because this is not the case the kind
of case where you can hold stuff back and say it's,
you know, national security. There's no national security implications here, unless,
of course, the CIA gets outed as being involved, then
I guess that could be sort of a problem. But
at the end of the day, that's not for the
courts to decide. The courts need to just go after
whatever whatever's on their plate, right and they can't worry
about all that other crap. So it's good to see
that the courts are still processing this case right now
throughout this pandemic, and it's going to be interesting to
see how this all ends up. This article was written
by Adam Klassfeld, the federal judge who holds the key
to secret records concerning the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein refuse
Tuesday afternoon to approve a month long delay in the case. Well,
what would a month long delay do anyway? I mean,
in about a month, another couple of weeks, three weeks,
the pandemic will be peaking. But even after it peaks,
well supposedly going to peak. After it peaks, there's still
going to be ripple effects being felt throughout not only
the nation, but you know, the court system, et cetera,
et cetera. So I don't know what a month long
delay would have even accomplished. Seems to me like it's
more dragging of the feet by the defense. Seems to
me like it's more, let's try and pause this as
long as possible, and we'll try and you know, avoid
the inevitable for as long as we can. Attorneys for
people named in the secret batch of files sought the
reprieve to extend how long they have to raise objections
about public scrutiny after first receiving notice about their involvement.
So because of the pandemic, they'll use that as an
excuse and they'll try and you know, use that as
a way to navigate through this minefield. And we see
it all the time and from the these kind of people,
from people like Epstein, the way that they jump through loopholes,
the way that they avoid certain things within the justice
system because they have high profile lawyers who know the
tricks of the trade. And we see it on a
regular basis, them trying to drag their feet and trying
to make it a drawn out process. At this point,
fourteen days is certainly adequate. US District Judge Loretta Presca
told an attorney for one of those anonymous men during
a phone conference, referring to the length of time needed
to respond to a notification, I mean, you need more
than fourteen days to respond. Fourteen days should be plenty
of time for you to get with your high profile
lawyers and figure out a way to lie. Why do
you need more than fourteen days, mister anonymous man? And boy,
we go all day thinking about who the anonymous man is, right,
there got to be several of them, definitely several of them.
Maybe we'll talk about that at some point. Maybe we'll
do like a speculative episode where we discuss who the
anonymous men could be, who are trying so hard to
drag their feet here and trying so hard to delay
the case. Like many US court proceedings during the coronavirus crisis,
today's hearing took place in the form of a telephone conference.
As proceedings began, the former chief judge for the Southern
District of New York quipped that many have been boosting
their vitamin C reserves with quarantinas. I don't even know
what that means, and why is she quipping anyway? Stick
to the stick to the case, Judge Prescin, You're not
there to be a comedian. Nobody finds you funny. Do
the right thing and unseal these documents. Save your your
comedic act for the night crew. The second Circuit put
Presca at the cases Helm last July, long before the
novel virus COVID nineteen first erupted in China, spawning a
global pandemic and national emergency. Her task is to review
and potentially unseal files from a lawsuit that Epstein accuser
Virginia Roberts brought against the now deceased Pedophiles ex associate
Gilayne Maxwell ex associates better than madam I guess, or
better than socialite. But I'll take it a step further.
His co conspirator. That's what Gilayne Maxwell is, folks. She's
a co conspirator. She was just as involved in Jeffrey Epstein.
She was just as involved. She might not have been
abusing all of the girls, but she was involved in
some of the abuse. She was certainly involved in the planning.
She was certainly involved in the logistics. She was certainly
involved in the grooming, so co conspirator is the proper
title to slap on Gilayne Maxwell in my opinion, Well,
that and also when she gets her prisoner number, when
she originally eventually gets arrested, that'll be great. We could
just identify her by that number. Then you want to
talk about the biggest slap in the face. If Maxwell
ever gets arrested, and she ever goes to jail for this,
we will refer to her by her prison identification on
this podcast, not by her name. Disclosure could prove limited.
In January, PRESCA ruled that only records that form the
basis of court rulings in roberts Old lawsuit against Maxwell
would be entitled to the presumption of public access. She emphasized, however,
that her ruling would not end the case. See this
is what's going on with PRESCA here. She's trying to
tow the line on both sides. She should just release
all of this, all of these documents, be done with it,
and move on with her life. But instead she says, well,
you know, they're not all entitled to the presumption of
public access. But this ruling, this doesn't end the case.
So what she does is she leaves the door open
for what reason. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer
or a judge or anything like that, so I don't
know the motivation behind something like this, but I think
it's a bunch of bs, if you want my opinion
on it. I think that Judge Presca should just come
out swinging and release these documents because there's no reason
not to release them. All right, who are you protect
and why? Why are the rich and the powerful always
protected by the justice system. The court is mindful of
the fact that there is a great deal of public
intrigues surrounding the unseiling of the documents at issue here,
Presco wrote with that in mind, this court emphasizes that
this ruling is a narrow one, and that's definitely a
good thing. That's an opening in the case for these
documents to be released. And she had said that previously, right,
that it's not ending the case. It's you know, just
it just emphasizes that the ruling is a narrow one,
so it's up to interpretation and her mind can be changed,
is what that means. Much of the public's interest in
Epstein's case stems from the investigative journalism of the Miami
Herald and its reporter Julie Brown, whose series Perversion of
Justice spurred the resignation of Trump's former Secretary of Labor,
Alexandra Acosta. Let's not get carried away, Okay. I think
Julie Julie Brown's work was what initiated the whole reinvestigation.
But I think that there was people that were very
interested in this case even before that. Now, they might
not have had the resources of Julie Brown. And Julie
Brown was the one who certainly kicked in the door.
There were a bunch of people who were still covering
this case. I mean from the beginning. There are people
that have been covering this case since, you know, two
thousand and seven. So I think that I think that
Julie Brown is certainly the one who got the door
kicked in for this second time around. She deserves all
the credit in the world. Her reporting was fantastic, The
reporting of the Miami Herald was fantastic, and the way
that she doggedly went after the case is just just awesome.
And she deserves a lot of a lot of credit
for that because without her hard work, you know, the
second time around, there had been zero chants that this
case would have been reopened zero chance. So it's nice
to see that Julie K. Brown is is charged so
hard against this against these people, and took this case
as seriously as she did and saw it through to
an outcome such as Jeffrey Epstein getting arrested. It's pretty
awesome work and she should be commended for it. But
there are other people who have been researching this case
for a very long time as well. They just don't
have the stature of Julie K. Brown. The papers reporting
also reanimated civil litigation from the convicted pedophiles survivors and
has been credited for Epstein's federal sex trafficking indictment, whose
investigation has outlived it's key defendant. Yeah, hey, look like
I just said. She definitely deserves all the credit in
the world for that. Julie K. Brown's a hero in
this story, and her investigation into this case should win
awards because she really did the job of fifteen investigative
journalists and she was dealing with some very dangerous people
and she was never deterred. She just kept going and
kept pounding and kept grinding, And that's exactly the sort
of thing you need to do if you're going to
chase down people like Jeffrey Epstein. A little more than
an hour before today's telephone conference, the Herald signaled it
would remain a thorn in the side of Epstein's associates
in a memo giving Maxwell's legal team a lesson in
press freedom. Miss Maxwell's attack on The Herald and Brown's
reporting on this case of significant public interest is wholly unwarranted,
and her positions demonstrate her interest and continues to hide
from public scrutiny that which has already been sealed for
far too long. The paper's attorney, Christine Walls wrote. She
further fundamentally mischaracterized the role of the media in seeking
access to court records. The media are not distinguishable from
the public. They are the surrogates for the public, and
that's for sure. The media, the fourth Estate's real job
is to expose stuff like this. The media's real job
is to let the public know that there is corruption
going on. The media is job isn't to play sides.
The media's job isn't to have a political bent. The
media's job isn't to tell you what to think. The
media's job is to report the facts and then you
are to form your own opinions. And especially the media's job,
or a content creator's job, or a reporter's job is
the most important thing is that you don't become the story.
And there seems to be a lot of people who
want to be the story in this case. And thankfully
Julie Brown and some of these other reporters that have
been working doggedly for the Miami Herald have not done that.
It's always been about the survivors and justice for the survivors,
and that's definitely respectable. In my opinion, I think Julie K.
Brown deserves a lot of credit for the way she
went about this, highlighting the potential for further press scrutiny.
Walls took umbrage during today's phone conference with Maxwell's bid
to have the language of the notifications emphasized the consequence
of the information becoming public. Look, Maxwell doesn't want this
stuff out there, doesn't want it to become public, because
that's one less bullet in her chamber. If this stuff
is public and these guys are outed, what does she
have holding over their heads? How can she blackmail them?
How can she you know, force them into doing what
she wants them to do. If this all becomes public,
she loses all the ammunition from her gun, and then
what what is she left with? Nothing? She has left
with nothing, and she knows the only thing that's keeping
her hat out of prison at this point are the
dark secrets that she knows and the powerful people that
she can she can unmask inside of this entire, this whole,
entire criminal enterprise, and that's what they're scared of. And
if they take that away from her, if they take
that away from her, she will have nothing left. And
the self preservation that we see her involved in for
so long will soon be gone, and she will have
no choice but to be questioned by the FBI at
that point. Judge Presco agreed the semantic change Maxwell proposed
does sound terribly scary and was not needed, as the
notifications already state that the files would become publicly available. Accordingly,
the proposed language is denied. Presca said, well, that's good.
A denial to Gillane Maxwell's team, a denial to Gillane
Maxwell and her attempts to keep things quiet and to
keep these names sealed. It's it's always nice when you
see her and her team get a slap in the
face when the Second Circuit unsealed the initial tranch of
files in August. Their release turned up public scrutiny on
model scout Jean Luke Brunel, New Mexico governor Bill Richardson,
financier pedophile Glenn Dubin, and former Senator George Mitchell, to
name a few. Another of these individuals, Britain's Prince Andrew,
has been dogged by controversy ever since. Oh as he
well should, as he well should. This man is an
absolute black eye for the English people, an embarrassment to
the Royals, and that's saying a lot considering all the
embarrassments that they've had in their family. And for this
guy to still run around and act like he hasn't
done anything, and to thumb his nose at the rest
of us by hiring this legal team and hiding behind
them after saying he was going to talk to the authorities.
It just goes to show you the kind of person
that Andrew is. Andrew, who is Queen Elizabeth's second son,
is still reeling from a public relations disaster that transpired
with a BBC interview in November. Federal prosecutors in New
York disclosed earlier this month that the Prince completely shut
the door on voluntary cooperation forming the US, forcing the
US Attorney's Office to weigh other options. Former prosecutors for
the district say those measures could include everything from a
request under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty or MLATT to
an arrest warrant. Well, that's pretty horror strong, a pretty
strong statement, huh. And arrest warrant for Prince Andrew. That
would be nice. I'd love to see that. I don't
know if we we'll get to that point anytime soon,
but i'd love to see it. In my opinion, the
only way we can get there is if we do
the do it correctly and go after the lieutenants first,
round them all up, have them all start ratting on
each other, build the case against Prince Andrew that's so
iron clad that they can't deny the request, and then
present the evidence to the English authorities and have them
get on board. That's pretty much the only way we're
ever going to get Andrew wrapped up in this, especially
if there's an arrest warrant, it's gonna have to be
an ironclad case. But the other ones, the core four. Look,
they're right here in America. They're right here for Berman
to go after, and they're not going to be protected
by that immunity deal according to the SDNY. So what
are you guys waiting for? Go get the Core four,
start the interrogations, have them all start singing like little
song birds, and then mass arrests. I am talking mass
arrests everybody that was involved, all the employees who covered
for him, the pilots who covered for him, Everybody who
does not cooperate gets arrested. Everybody gets hit with rico charges.
Everybody is getting rid in fear of having all of
their finances seized by the federal government. That should be
what's going on right now now. Prince Andrew is certainly
that you're going big game hunting when you're going after
Prince Andrew, and there's no doubt you want to put
that feather in your cap and you want to bring
him to justice. But I think the proper course is
to go after the Core four in Gelan. First, get
them caught up, get them wrapped up, get them singing,
get them ratting, and then build that ironclad case that
nobody can pick apart, and then slam it right down
on the Prince of punk Asses aka the Prince of Lies,
Prince Andrew. Hopefully we get some more movement in this
case soon. Hopefully PRESCA does the right thing and releases
the materials that should be released, and hopefully the lawyers
for Virginia can continue to battle tooth and nail to
get this stuff released for the for public consumption. It's
it's a tragedy that this has not been released already.
This is something that concerns the whole entire nation and
it is still being kept under wraps. We deserve to
know who was involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and the survivors
deserve to be vindicated by those people being put on
blast as well. All Right, folks, if you'd like to
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