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Speaker 1: Our article today is from Courthousenews dot com and the

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headline is pandemic won't slow fight over sealed Jeffrey Epstein documents. Well,

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that's good. I'm glad to hear that. You know, I

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know that we're in the middle of the pandemic, and

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you know, it's definitely a tough time for a lot

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of people, but we have to keep some semblance of

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the rule of law going right. We have to make

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sure that the courts don't get backed up, and we

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have to make sure that they're processing as many cases

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as they possibly can. So it's good to know that

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the pandemic isn't going to slow the fight over the

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sealed documents in the Epstein case, because it's crucial that

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those documents are published for the public to see. It's

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very crucial that that ends up happening, because there's already

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the air of secrecy around this whole entire thing. The

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whole entire shroud has been thrown over this case from

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the beginning. And if they keep on doing it, and

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they keep on keeping things in the shadows and away

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from the public, all they're going to do is foster

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more resentment and foster more mistrust in them being the

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Justice Department, because this is not the case the kind

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of case where you can hold stuff back and say it's,

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you know, national security. There's no national security implications here, unless,

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of course, the CIA gets outed as being involved, then

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I guess that could be sort of a problem. But

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at the end of the day, that's not for the

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courts to decide. The courts need to just go after

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whatever whatever's on their plate, right and they can't worry

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about all that other crap. So it's good to see

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that the courts are still processing this case right now

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throughout this pandemic, and it's going to be interesting to

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see how this all ends up. This article was written

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by Adam Klassfeld, the federal judge who holds the key

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to secret records concerning the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein refuse

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Tuesday afternoon to approve a month long delay in the case. Well,

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what would a month long delay do anyway? I mean,

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in about a month, another couple of weeks, three weeks,

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the pandemic will be peaking. But even after it peaks,

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well supposedly going to peak. After it peaks, there's still

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going to be ripple effects being felt throughout not only

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the nation, but you know, the court system, et cetera,

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et cetera. So I don't know what a month long

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delay would have even accomplished. Seems to me like it's

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more dragging of the feet by the defense. Seems to

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me like it's more, let's try and pause this as

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long as possible, and we'll try and you know, avoid

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the inevitable for as long as we can. Attorneys for

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people named in the secret batch of files sought the

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reprieve to extend how long they have to raise objections

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about public scrutiny after first receiving notice about their involvement.

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So because of the pandemic, they'll use that as an

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excuse and they'll try and you know, use that as

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a way to navigate through this minefield. And we see

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it all the time and from the these kind of people,

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from people like Epstein, the way that they jump through loopholes,

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the way that they avoid certain things within the justice

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system because they have high profile lawyers who know the

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tricks of the trade. And we see it on a

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regular basis, them trying to drag their feet and trying

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to make it a drawn out process. At this point,

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fourteen days is certainly adequate. US District Judge Loretta Presca

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told an attorney for one of those anonymous men during

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a phone conference, referring to the length of time needed

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to respond to a notification, I mean, you need more

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than fourteen days to respond. Fourteen days should be plenty

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of time for you to get with your high profile

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lawyers and figure out a way to lie. Why do

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you need more than fourteen days, mister anonymous man? And boy,

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we go all day thinking about who the anonymous man is, right,

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there got to be several of them, definitely several of them.

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Maybe we'll talk about that at some point. Maybe we'll

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do like a speculative episode where we discuss who the

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anonymous men could be, who are trying so hard to

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drag their feet here and trying so hard to delay

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the case. Like many US court proceedings during the coronavirus crisis,

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today's hearing took place in the form of a telephone conference.

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As proceedings began, the former chief judge for the Southern

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District of New York quipped that many have been boosting

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their vitamin C reserves with quarantinas. I don't even know

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what that means, and why is she quipping anyway? Stick

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to the stick to the case, Judge Prescin, You're not

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there to be a comedian. Nobody finds you funny. Do

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the right thing and unseal these documents. Save your your

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comedic act for the night crew. The second Circuit put

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Presca at the cases Helm last July, long before the

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novel virus COVID nineteen first erupted in China, spawning a

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global pandemic and national emergency. Her task is to review

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and potentially unseal files from a lawsuit that Epstein accuser

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Virginia Roberts brought against the now deceased Pedophiles ex associate

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Gilayne Maxwell ex associates better than madam I guess, or

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better than socialite. But I'll take it a step further.

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His co conspirator. That's what Gilayne Maxwell is, folks. She's

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a co conspirator. She was just as involved in Jeffrey Epstein.

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She was just as involved. She might not have been

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abusing all of the girls, but she was involved in

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some of the abuse. She was certainly involved in the planning.

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She was certainly involved in the logistics. She was certainly

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involved in the grooming, so co conspirator is the proper

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title to slap on Gilayne Maxwell in my opinion, Well,

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that and also when she gets her prisoner number, when

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she originally eventually gets arrested, that'll be great. We could

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just identify her by that number. Then you want to

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talk about the biggest slap in the face. If Maxwell

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ever gets arrested, and she ever goes to jail for this,

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we will refer to her by her prison identification on

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this podcast, not by her name. Disclosure could prove limited.

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In January, PRESCA ruled that only records that form the

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basis of court rulings in roberts Old lawsuit against Maxwell

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would be entitled to the presumption of public access. She emphasized, however,

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that her ruling would not end the case. See this

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is what's going on with PRESCA here. She's trying to

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tow the line on both sides. She should just release

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all of this, all of these documents, be done with it,

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and move on with her life. But instead she says, well,

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you know, they're not all entitled to the presumption of

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public access. But this ruling, this doesn't end the case.

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So what she does is she leaves the door open

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for what reason. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer

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or a judge or anything like that, so I don't

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know the motivation behind something like this, but I think

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it's a bunch of bs, if you want my opinion

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on it. I think that Judge Presca should just come

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out swinging and release these documents because there's no reason

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not to release them. All right, who are you protect

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and why? Why are the rich and the powerful always

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protected by the justice system. The court is mindful of

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the fact that there is a great deal of public

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intrigues surrounding the unseiling of the documents at issue here,

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Presco wrote with that in mind, this court emphasizes that

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this ruling is a narrow one, and that's definitely a

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good thing. That's an opening in the case for these

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documents to be released. And she had said that previously, right,

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that it's not ending the case. It's you know, just

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it just emphasizes that the ruling is a narrow one,

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so it's up to interpretation and her mind can be changed,

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is what that means. Much of the public's interest in

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Epstein's case stems from the investigative journalism of the Miami

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Herald and its reporter Julie Brown, whose series Perversion of

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Justice spurred the resignation of Trump's former Secretary of Labor,

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Alexandra Acosta. Let's not get carried away, Okay. I think

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Julie Julie Brown's work was what initiated the whole reinvestigation.

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interested in this case even before that. Now, they might

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not have had the resources of Julie Brown. And Julie

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Brown was the one who certainly kicked in the door.

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There were a bunch of people who were still covering

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this case. I mean from the beginning. There are people

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that have been covering this case since, you know, two

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thousand and seven. So I think that I think that

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Julie Brown is certainly the one who got the door

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kicked in for this second time around. She deserves all

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the credit in the world. Her reporting was fantastic, The

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reporting of the Miami Herald was fantastic, and the way

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that she doggedly went after the case is just just awesome.

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And she deserves a lot of a lot of credit

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for that because without her hard work, you know, the

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second time around, there had been zero chants that this

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case would have been reopened zero chance. So it's nice

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to see that Julie K. Brown is is charged so

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hard against this against these people, and took this case

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as seriously as she did and saw it through to

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an outcome such as Jeffrey Epstein getting arrested. It's pretty

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awesome work and she should be commended for it. But

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there are other people who have been researching this case

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for a very long time as well. They just don't

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have the stature of Julie K. Brown. The papers reporting

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also reanimated civil litigation from the convicted pedophiles survivors and

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has been credited for Epstein's federal sex trafficking indictment, whose

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investigation has outlived it's key defendant. Yeah, hey, look like

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I just said. She definitely deserves all the credit in

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the world for that. Julie K. Brown's a hero in

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this story, and her investigation into this case should win

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awards because she really did the job of fifteen investigative

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journalists and she was dealing with some very dangerous people

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and she was never deterred. She just kept going and

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kept pounding and kept grinding, And that's exactly the sort

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of thing you need to do if you're going to

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chase down people like Jeffrey Epstein. A little more than

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an hour before today's telephone conference, the Herald signaled it

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would remain a thorn in the side of Epstein's associates

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in a memo giving Maxwell's legal team a lesson in

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press freedom. Miss Maxwell's attack on The Herald and Brown's

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reporting on this case of significant public interest is wholly unwarranted,

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and her positions demonstrate her interest and continues to hide

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from public scrutiny that which has already been sealed for

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far too long. The paper's attorney, Christine Walls wrote. She

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further fundamentally mischaracterized the role of the media in seeking

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access to court records. The media are not distinguishable from

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the public. They are the surrogates for the public, and

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that's for sure. The media, the fourth Estate's real job

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is to expose stuff like this. The media's real job

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is to let the public know that there is corruption

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going on. The media is job isn't to play sides.

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The media's job isn't to have a political bent. The

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media's job isn't to tell you what to think. The

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media's job is to report the facts and then you

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are to form your own opinions. And especially the media's job,

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or a content creator's job, or a reporter's job is

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the most important thing is that you don't become the story.

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want to be the story in this case. And thankfully

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Julie Brown and some of these other reporters that have

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been working doggedly for the Miami Herald have not done that.

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It's always been about the survivors and justice for the survivors,

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and that's definitely respectable. In my opinion, I think Julie K.

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Brown deserves a lot of credit for the way she

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went about this, highlighting the potential for further press scrutiny.

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Walls took umbrage during today's phone conference with Maxwell's bid

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to have the language of the notifications emphasized the consequence

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of the information becoming public. Look, Maxwell doesn't want this

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stuff out there, doesn't want it to become public, because

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that's one less bullet in her chamber. If this stuff

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is public and these guys are outed, what does she

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have holding over their heads? How can she blackmail them?

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How can she you know, force them into doing what

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she wants them to do. If this all becomes public,

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she loses all the ammunition from her gun, and then

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what what is she left with? Nothing? She has left

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with nothing, and she knows the only thing that's keeping

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her hat out of prison at this point are the

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dark secrets that she knows and the powerful people that

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she can she can unmask inside of this entire, this whole,

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entire criminal enterprise, and that's what they're scared of. And

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if they take that away from her, if they take

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that away from her, she will have nothing left. And

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the self preservation that we see her involved in for

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so long will soon be gone, and she will have

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no choice but to be questioned by the FBI at

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that point. Judge Presco agreed the semantic change Maxwell proposed

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does sound terribly scary and was not needed, as the

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notifications already state that the files would become publicly available. Accordingly,

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the proposed language is denied. Presca said, well, that's good.

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A denial to Gillane Maxwell's team, a denial to Gillane

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Maxwell and her attempts to keep things quiet and to

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keep these names sealed. It's it's always nice when you

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see her and her team get a slap in the

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face when the Second Circuit unsealed the initial tranch of

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files in August. Their release turned up public scrutiny on

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model scout Jean Luke Brunel, New Mexico governor Bill Richardson,

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financier pedophile Glenn Dubin, and former Senator George Mitchell, to

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name a few. Another of these individuals, Britain's Prince Andrew,

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has been dogged by controversy ever since. Oh as he

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well should, as he well should. This man is an

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absolute black eye for the English people, an embarrassment to

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the Royals, and that's saying a lot considering all the

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embarrassments that they've had in their family. And for this

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guy to still run around and act like he hasn't

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done anything, and to thumb his nose at the rest

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of us by hiring this legal team and hiding behind

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them after saying he was going to talk to the authorities.

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It just goes to show you the kind of person

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that Andrew is. Andrew, who is Queen Elizabeth's second son,

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is still reeling from a public relations disaster that transpired

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with a BBC interview in November. Federal prosecutors in New

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York disclosed earlier this month that the Prince completely shut

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the door on voluntary cooperation forming the US, forcing the

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US Attorney's Office to weigh other options. Former prosecutors for

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the district say those measures could include everything from a

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request under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty or MLATT to

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an arrest warrant. Well, that's pretty horror strong, a pretty

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strong statement, huh. And arrest warrant for Prince Andrew. That

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would be nice. I'd love to see that. I don't

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know if we we'll get to that point anytime soon,

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but i'd love to see it. In my opinion, the

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only way we can get there is if we do

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the do it correctly and go after the lieutenants first,

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round them all up, have them all start ratting on

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each other, build the case against Prince Andrew that's so

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iron clad that they can't deny the request, and then

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present the evidence to the English authorities and have them

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get on board. That's pretty much the only way we're

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ever going to get Andrew wrapped up in this, especially

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if there's an arrest warrant, it's gonna have to be

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an ironclad case. But the other ones, the core four. Look,

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they're right here in America. They're right here for Berman

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to go after, and they're not going to be protected

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by that immunity deal according to the SDNY. So what

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are you guys waiting for? Go get the Core four,

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start the interrogations, have them all start singing like little

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song birds, and then mass arrests. I am talking mass

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arrests everybody that was involved, all the employees who covered

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for him, the pilots who covered for him, Everybody who

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does not cooperate gets arrested. Everybody gets hit with rico charges.

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Everybody is getting rid in fear of having all of

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their finances seized by the federal government. That should be

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what's going on right now now. Prince Andrew is certainly

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that you're going big game hunting when you're going after

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Prince Andrew, and there's no doubt you want to put

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that feather in your cap and you want to bring

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him to justice. But I think the proper course is

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to go after the Core four in Gelan. First, get

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them caught up, get them wrapped up, get them singing,

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get them ratting, and then build that ironclad case that

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nobody can pick apart, and then slam it right down

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on the Prince of punk Asses aka the Prince of Lies,

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Prince Andrew. Hopefully we get some more movement in this

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case soon. Hopefully PRESCA does the right thing and releases

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the materials that should be released, and hopefully the lawyers

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for Virginia can continue to battle tooth and nail to

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get this stuff released for the for public consumption. It's

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it's a tragedy that this has not been released already.

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This is something that concerns the whole entire nation and

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it is still being kept under wraps. We deserve to

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know who was involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and the survivors

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deserve to be vindicated by those people being put on

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blast as well. All Right, folks, if you'd like to

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contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at

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ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b b y c ap

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U c c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can