1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Cranch, your fist, strike a smoke, deny the mess, the 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:16,800 earth beneath your soul. You're true, wisp loud, let them 3 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:20,719 here every answers in your. 4 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:26,879 Speaker 2: Mere step into then of friend. The power is in 5 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:28,079 your hands, no. 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,519 Speaker 1: Prey, good show. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to another insumment of Bill Lightenman, which I keep 8 00:00:33,679 --> 00:00:35,119 saying that I'm gonna make as its. 9 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Own podcast, and I promise I will. 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a little more time in the next 11 00:00:39,759 --> 00:00:41,640 couple of days, and that's gonna be the. 12 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: Kind of the focus for me. 13 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: But Shila Tillik has been kind enough to come back, 14 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:51,640 and Sheila has well, I think we should start first 15 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,880 with all the things that you have going on that 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,200 people can partake in and be a part of and 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,679 learn more about this what I had you muted my 18 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:05,920 bad yep, Now you're good, Yes, you're good. 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: Well, I've got lots of stuff coming this summer, lots 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,239 of activities going on. I'm actually part of the Lined 21 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:23,959 Collective on South Avenue and Tuesdays, every Tuesday night, the 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,000 last Tuesday of the month, I'm going to be doing 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,879 a question and answers that you can ask the star 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,359 mothers how to step in to your multi dimensional spiritual 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,239 abilities twenty fourth chromosome. So that is going to be 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,680 open to the public, okay, the last Tuesday of the month, 27 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:46,000 and then in July, I actually have a very intimate 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:52,159 integrated ERI therapy workshop that's the three levels on Friday, eleventh, twelfth, 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,400 and thirteenth, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, okay, And then also 30 00:01:55,519 --> 00:01:58,400 the beginning of August I have another one. So almost 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,599 every single month I have some type of teaching modality 32 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,719 that you can actually be part of. And what I 33 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:09,199 always share it's about you learning about you. How do 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,879 you stand in your life? How do you understand the 35 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:14,719 things that need to be healed for yourself? And if 36 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:18,120 you choose to be practitioner, you can, but most people don't. 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,199 And it's about your own personal healing. 38 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:26,199 Speaker 3: A lot of this is I think it's mistaken. It 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,560 is about you the person exactly being. It's for you 40 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:36,240 to step into your power that was God given, source given, 41 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:39,000 however you want to phrase it. It's all the things 42 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:43,280 that this is. It bothers me sometimes because you and 43 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:49,080 I did a panel at Saint John Fisher University and 44 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:51,439 one of the other people on the panel talked about 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,639 how religion and how they're looked at by family members 46 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,800 and things. And to me, this is what religion should 47 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,879 have been or was trying to teach us. It's not 48 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,639 about controlling people. It's not about buying land and hiding 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,639 pedophiles as it went on. Yeah, I mean unfortunately, well, 50 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,000 I mean unfortunately that that happened, and I don't mean 51 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:13,520 to make light of that in any way. But my 52 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,639 point is that there was a lot of control through 53 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:23,599 those things programs, and you have to almost I'll just 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,639 say this when it comes to religion. 55 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: If you look back through history. 56 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: Religions were changed to fit a person's wants. Right, King 57 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,520 Henry the eighth wanted to bang somebody else and he 58 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,599 couldn't get so he changed from Catholicism to Protestant. 59 00:03:40,639 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: I mean that's really what it was. 60 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: It was, but I know it's really really graphic and 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,919 based the way I'm saying it, but that's what it was. 62 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,439 Speaker 2: So if that's religion, there's something wrong. 63 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, But also it's it's you know Martin Luther when 64 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:59,800 he thesis, and there's so much about that. It was 65 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:03,439 it's an inside job, your soul connection, yes, to your 66 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:04,680 soul source, whatever. 67 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:06,319 Speaker 3: You want to call it, but I think that's so 68 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,520 important and I feel like it needs to be said 69 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,560 ad nauseum, which sounds obnoxious, I guess, but it does 70 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,279 because I feel like it just doesn't you know. It's 71 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,160 like me trying to talk to my fifteen year old son. 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,639 I got to say it over. Why do you keep 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,800 repeating yourself because you're not doing what I say? 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but it's the same thing. 75 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,879 Speaker 3: It's like you almost have to I hate to use 76 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,600 the term beats you over the head, but that was 77 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:32,879 like I gotta beat over that with it. Yes, yeah, 78 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,120 in a way, I'd like to, because you're making we 79 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,120 we are making it harder on ourselves by not stepping 80 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,720 into our own power exactly. 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: And we've talked many times about your own divinity. What 83 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:51,560 is your power? Your divinity of the power that you have, 84 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,000 or your choices which you can make, and it's about 85 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,399 love or fear. Talked about that too, and coming from compassion, 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,879 and a lot of times we don't know how to 87 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:05,040 do that because we haven't been taught. Right, We've been 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,199 taught follow the rules and you do this, this and this, 89 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:11,279 but why why do we have to do that? And 90 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,279 that's where the soul comes in, like you totally know, 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,959 and that's your soul connection, right, And so that's what's 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,720 happening now, is that that energy is coming through. Yeah, 93 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,079 but we as human beings have had to learn that 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,720 and sometimes it's very confusing right now. We don't know 95 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:30,839 what to do. We don't know what to do. 96 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: Thinking of something as I had an incident the other 97 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:40,680 day where I was driving home and I thought, oh, 98 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:42,959 let me, I just got the inspiration to pull off 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,839 and go into some place. 100 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:46,079 Speaker 2: And I went in. 101 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: There and the next thing I know, everything's kind of changing. 102 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: And the thing is I no thought of no. 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,959 Speaker 3: No, nothing, no, nothing, just it's just sort of But 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,480 you can see where if you follow that that into it, 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,279 I feel like there are your inner being, I'll call 106 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:08,800 it that, your soul is trying to say. 107 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,519 Speaker 2: Come this way, come this way, come this way. They're 108 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:12,279 not going to fight you. 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: But a lot of times when you feel crappy, it's 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,560 because you're not in alignment with your inner being, right, 111 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,399 alignment with your inter being. And I think that that 112 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,879 is that different than when we talk about quantum energy. 113 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,439 Speaker 2: That's sort of the stuff that's out here. 114 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: That is yes, that is what it is. 115 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,639 Speaker 2: It is. 116 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,639 Speaker 4: It is so quantum energy is the alignment of who 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,360 you are as electromagnetic being why you were here, okay, 118 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 And your whole life, yeah, you know the choices that 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,439 you make, but your whole life is whether you live 120 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:52,319 in a higher frequency of love and compassion and not 121 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:56,040 wanting to hurt somebody, you know, and then taking responsibility 122 00:06:56,079 --> 00:06:59,079 for yourself when you do wrong, you know you did wrong, 123 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:02,079 instead of living in the ego say well, it's just 124 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:05,399 too bad, you know, or in the in the lower 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,199 frequency of I don't know any other way, So I'm 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 going to stay stuck and I'm not going to do 127 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:16,879 better because I'm unworthy. Why it's all about guilt and 128 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,639 also about a worthiness and a loved A lot of 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,480 times that we always talk about that energy psychology back 130 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:26,639 to what you were brought up with in the very 131 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,040 beginning and how you relate to all emotions and everything, 132 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,439 and the quantum energy that's here now is about change 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,199 and it's about the higher alignment of who you really 134 00:07:37,279 --> 00:07:38,439 are as a soul. 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. 136 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:44,319 Speaker 4: And so when you have communication of I should go 137 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,439 down this road and go into here, it could be 138 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:52,000 good or bad. Okay, oh it is good. No, it 139 00:07:52,079 --> 00:07:54,720 is good. But what why said good or bad? Is 140 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,920 that you know somebody that was really pissed off at 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,879 work or whatever, and you're really stressful and you want 142 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:02,600 to just go home and do which they said over here. 143 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, So that's. 144 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: And then then but that's not almost you're in being following? 145 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: Is it like the devil and the you know you're 146 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,439 listening to in the brain, you know, the neighborhood. That's 147 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,000 what I said, don't go in the neighborhood alone. Take 148 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,360 somebody with you, you know, in recovery, you know, sponsor 149 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:24,199 somebody that's been through it. And that's exactly what I do, 150 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,399 is that I've been through it. I'm a recovery metaphysician, 151 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,560 and I share stories because stories are the heart, center 152 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:34,399 of the gateway. Your heart is the gateway to love 153 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,679 and your experiences and your wisdom. And that's why we 154 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,360 talk about serendipity and sachronosity, why we came together, and 155 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:46,919 why so many other people are starting to waken up 156 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,399 and they're asking questions, what is alignment? What does that mean? 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,639 I'm hearing that all the time. Well, alignment with are 158 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,440 you happy or not happy, and are you in line 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,000 to make your life a better situation or do you 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,080 want to stay stock? So it's about going inside, yes, 161 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,879 listening to your soul source, your divinity, who you really 162 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:13,960 are as a divine being. And this energy you know, 163 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:17,080 was prophesied, it's in the Bible. It's revelation. We're going 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 through revelation. If you want to go religion, yeah, it's 165 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,639 And if you talk about Native American or indigenous, it 166 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,840 is the time that we've been waiting for. It's the 167 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:30,919 main calendar it is. It's the change of everything. Yeah, 168 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,159 and that's all astrological. And also it's all about physics 169 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,000 and the energy of the universe. 170 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: Well, when we a lot of times, I think people 171 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,159 will finding this stuff more palatable palpable? 172 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: Am I saying? 173 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Right? 174 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: I can understand it simpler terms, in simpler terms. 175 00:09:49,759 --> 00:09:55,039 Speaker 3: If they if there's some kind of we can put 176 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,039 it to science, right, I can go, oh, this can 177 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,200 be proven or that is right. So I would ask 178 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:06,039 you can quantum energy bridge the gap between science and spirituality? 179 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:06,279 Speaker 2: Oh? 180 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and it has. However, mainstream hasn't been ready 181 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,480 for it yet. It had to get to a certain 182 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:19,320 point for it to come out, and I talk about 183 00:10:19,639 --> 00:10:22,799 the thirty six year time period of this quantum change 184 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:26,200 in humanity, and it has to do with scientific evidence 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:32,759 that the Earth magnetic field is changing. And Heartmanth Institute 186 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:37,559 and NASA and Princeton University proved that energy is consciousness 187 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,519 and it has to do with what emotions that we 188 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,720 are emitting out into the field. So there is a 189 00:10:44,759 --> 00:10:48,000 lot of science out there. And when you think about 190 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,679 the last five years since COVID, look how much has changed. 191 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:54,480 Look how much has come out that was hidden. But 192 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,639 also it was all about control and it changed all 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:58,759 of our lives. 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: It did. 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,279 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm naive in my thinking that 196 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:08,960 the in the beginning it was for the greater good. 197 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: I like to think that. I don't know. 198 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,159 Speaker 3: I feel like there were many people who weren't sure 199 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:17,919 so try to do things that would be for the 200 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,919 greater good. But when you look at things that so 201 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:26,679 as that happened, you know, we get people getting tickets 202 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,879 in certain parts of the country for walking in a park. 203 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Do you understand I'm saying, Like to me, then we've 204 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,679 gone a bridge too far. 205 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: But it shows. 206 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:36,759 Speaker 2: But in the. 207 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: Beginning, I thought, okay, I understand this. It seems to 208 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 make sense. Let's try not to have large gatherings of people. 209 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:46,840 And yet, Sheila, that time for me was magical. I 210 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:50,320 never see I never stopped working my buddy on the bar. 211 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,559 It became a tree for it, and we all hung 212 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,399 out and pretended we were doing the floors and things 213 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,960 in case any authority came by, and we were just 214 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,879 having a great time. I didn't get sick until almost 215 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:03,919 like it was over, and then I got it. 216 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: Yeah me too, me too, give me too. But I 217 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,679 you know, we can look back at that and our 218 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,080 reasons for doing whatever we did. Yeah, but the main 219 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,720 thing is that there was a shift in the paradigm 220 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:18,720 as far as it allowed parents to be more in 221 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:22,000 tune with their children. Yes, more responsible for their children. 222 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,720 But also it's about our own self reflecting and that's 223 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:28,600 where a lot of people started this new alignment and 224 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,000 wakening up that they don't have any choice but to 225 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,320 hit their bottom and do different. And so a lot 226 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,600 of people do that. They started, you know, podcasting, they 227 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,159 started different things. They find a lift of jobs or 228 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:42,039 their jobs was no longer there. So it was like 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,000 we had we were forced. But it was really part 230 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,919 of the timeline of what we were going through with 231 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:51,440 these changes that have been happening, and they've been changing 232 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:51,960 all along. 233 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: There's some that say that. 234 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: Nothing comes out of the blue, as we say, it 235 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,919 comes out of the oblivious. In other words, you're being 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,519 oblivious to your inner being calling you over here or whatever. 237 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:13,159 So if there is and we call them major life changes, 238 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:17,799 and they can be traumatic, they can be and there's 239 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:21,919 something to get through, but there's something comforting about knowing, 240 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:26,120 at least to in my mind, that you're unconditionally loved, 241 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:28,159 that the bottom really isn't going to drop out as 242 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:32,799 far as as long as you keep thinking and taking 243 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,840 the inspiration and putting it to action and not so 244 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,399 much like a grind out, grind out thing, but to action, 245 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:44,720 and then you can actually change your whole world. I mean, 246 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,120 there are people who believe that you can control the weather. 247 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: Well you can, that is, I know, I know, but 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,440 I'm not. 249 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: I know. 250 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:58,399 Speaker 3: These things sound so strange people because even my kid 251 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,360 and I have to have a conversation with him because 252 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:04,519 he gets annoyed, like like we're we're saying bad stuff 253 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:08,360 about God. Now, he did do some Catholic schooling early 254 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:11,240 on in his education. But you know, and I and 255 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:13,919 what I want to say to him is you have 256 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,840 the power. And it's your thoughts that will hold you 257 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,840 or release you or how you want to be. And 258 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:22,639 you can go in and and yes that's the work. 259 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:25,759 Not every day you're gonna feel like great, right, but 260 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,799 you got to kind of try to have the practices 261 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,759 to help you get there. And much like working out 262 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:35,480 at the gym, you can build those muscles. 263 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:36,799 Speaker 4: So to speaks. 264 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, the spiritual barbells through. 265 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,879 Speaker 3: And that's where I would ask you, like, what practices 266 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 can as we talk about the as you talk about 267 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,519 the shift and the energy, what practices can individuals and 268 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:51,919 communities adopt to strengthen their energetic resilience? 269 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Right? Because we we can say I will. 270 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: My saying is life never stops coming at you, right, 271 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:02,240 And I mean you and I have had conversations, right, 272 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,279 I've told you things, You've told me things where life 273 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 never stops coming at you. But you can build your 274 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,480 energetic resilience so you can stay up here and not 275 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:14,039 let these lower frequencies dictate you. 276 00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:15,799 Speaker 2: Because that goes back. 277 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: To it and let me just put it this way 278 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:22,840 for anyone listening is it is, I would feel better 279 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:26,679 if you just were different. Well, you can't control that 280 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,960 person and be different, and you should feel better from inside, 281 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,559 not outside exactly. 282 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,759 Speaker 4: Well, that's where you build compassion in yourself. You change 283 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:37,840 you first, and how you do that is don't do 284 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:39,879 what you usually do. And that's why I said, don't 285 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:41,799 do what you want to do, do what you don't 286 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,159 want to do, meaning turn the TV off, turn the 287 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,960 music off in the background, or excuse me, have the 288 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 music more of the frequency low the frequency that's going 289 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:54,919 to help you stay in a good mood, not the 290 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,480 frequency that's going to change your mood until anger, fear, 291 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,679 and it's in the background because subconsciously, your subconscious is 292 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,759 listening to it. And so make it uh your priority. 293 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:10,840 To make you a priority, just like we talked about 294 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,120 in the morning. You know, say it's going to be 295 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 a great day. I'm excited about to say, and said, oh, 296 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,320 you're right, yeah, you know, And it's all about your You. 297 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Can you can shift that shift, you can shift shift. 298 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,759 Speaker 4: And I talk about that time when I counsel people 299 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:27,919 shift your thinking. You you always put it out that 300 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,000 you can't do something. 301 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:31,879 Speaker 2: What are as we talk about shift? 302 00:16:31,879 --> 00:16:36,879 Speaker 3: What what would you say healer's roles are in supporting 303 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:38,639 a planetary. 304 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: Shift like this individual. 305 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,279 Speaker 2: That's what I think too. 306 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: All individual however, one always. 307 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: Say a planetary consciousness shift, I will say called coherence. 308 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,039 Speaker 4: Yes, it's a coherence consciousness shift. That you have to 309 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,279 be in that coherence field yourself. And that's why I 310 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:57,840 always say go with inside and it starts with you. 311 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,440 So you have to open up your soul source or 312 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,559 your communication from your heart, the love part of who 313 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,319 you really are as a being, and stay in that 314 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,680 frequency and how you do it with the heart maths 315 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,720 which I talk about all the time, and even if 316 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:14,759 you don't do it on a regular basis, just coined 317 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:17,799 your heart and just breathe and think of things that 318 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,160 you love. Just stay in that. You know, I love 319 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,200 my kids, I love my kids. 320 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: That really does raise your vibration. It's amazing. 321 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: And also when you're in the workplace and you have 322 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:30,400 a person that you know is just set in their ways, 323 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,799 they're going to do way, don't talk. You know, if 324 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,599 they ask you something, just say hold on a second 325 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 or can you repeat that again? And give yourself time 326 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,440 as they say ten seconds before you answer, but really 327 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:44,640 go inside and say help me, help me. Because you 328 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,759 can talk to your subconscious, you can talk to all 329 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:51,319 the helpers around you. You're talking to your divinity. You're 330 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,240 talking to you who you really are. And the more 331 00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:59,680 you do it, the more you train yourselves to actually 332 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:03,440 repond to it quicker. That's what heart math techniques are, 333 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:06,920 is where you used your breathing. It's not a meditation, 334 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:09,680 it's more of a breathing. But it's also the connection 335 00:18:09,759 --> 00:18:13,400 between your heart and your brain. The shifting of the 336 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,759 positivity or the appreciation or love or remembering something that 337 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,319 somebody did for you, and then you can start to 338 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,480 realize that you can do that for other people. And 339 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 like a work situation, if the boss has just really 340 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,519 riven you up or whatever, just listen, but don't take 341 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:35,559 it on what I talked about on the panel, you 342 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:40,240 know you can actually, you know, observe, but don't absorb. 343 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Don't absorb their negativity. 344 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,039 Speaker 3: It is that's interesting because I remember reading a lot 345 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:54,119 of Tick not Han. I'm not sure if you're familiar 346 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,799 with Tick not Han. He's a monk who was I 347 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:02,599 believe exile Vietnam or maybe went to Vietnam. I don't 348 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:06,400 remember exactly the story, but his when you were meditating, 349 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,839 it was to observe these thoughts. But just watch them 350 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,000 and you can do that. It's freaky at first, I mean, 351 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,079 you can really do it. 352 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,279 Speaker 4: That's your ability such a that's your intuition or seeing 353 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,319 things before it happened. And then it freaks you out 354 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,039 how that happens. But it's it's in the field. So 355 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:29,599 when we're talking about quantum energy, right, it's in the 356 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,880 field past, present, and future, right, you know. And there's 357 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,960 some you know thoughts of that. You know, we live 358 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,079 in the future at the same time that we are now, 359 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,240 which I believe that too. 360 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,519 Speaker 3: Well, there are many there are those that say we 361 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:43,920 we we jumped timelines and shift. It's so weird because 362 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,599 you go, yeah, man, I'm here, I'm talking. You know, 363 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:53,599 it's strange to me because it feels like it's two worlds. 364 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: Uh no, not woo wu, but two worlds. 365 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 3: Two worlds in the sense that see it, touch it, 366 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,920 feel it, a real realistic you know this, that and 367 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,359 the other thing. 368 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: And then on the other side it's like just let 369 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:05,920 it go. 370 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: And there are people will tell you this is all 371 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:10,799 simulation and you chose to do it, and so dream 372 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,319 and you're dreaming it and whatever. 373 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 374 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: It sounds too hard sometimes I think the human brain 375 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,400 can only do so much, but the higher mind can 376 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:21,960 help you do. 377 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: That so well exactly. And as you do these exercises, 378 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,160 whether it's heart math or just sit in the present moment, 379 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,720 which I've talked about all the time, SIP, you are 380 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:34,319 building new neural transmitters in the brain and that is 381 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,079 scientific too. But you have to keep doing it. You've 382 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:39,519 got to retrain. It's just like a baby when they 383 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,559 learn to do things. It's in there. It's the same 384 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,720 with dementia patients and people that are starting to lose 385 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,759 their memory or whatever. I mean, there's more to it 386 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:50,079 than that. But the thing is is that always keep 387 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,359 your brain active, keep it growing. And the higher consciousness 388 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,440 is the soul's part of it. 389 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: That's interesting because. 390 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,599 Speaker 4: And that's why they're so spiritual. The monks are so spiritual, yes, 391 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,359 and they can see things and you can observe things, 392 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,400 just like you can observe things that are happening. Like 393 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:11,119 a lot of times you don't want to change things 394 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,720 at work or whatever and say, oh, he's gonna come 395 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,319 in and he's gonna blow me away again, and he's 396 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:16,400 gonna do all this and say, Okay, now what if 397 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,400 it comes in and changes all of a sudden. You know, 398 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,680 he doesn't say that all of a sudden he changes 399 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:25,119 for the good. That's something you can work on the 400 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,720 day before, put it into the field so that when 401 00:21:28,759 --> 00:21:30,759 they come in the next day and all of a sudden, 402 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,039 they'll say, you know, I had a real experience when 403 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:34,559 I was sleeping, you know, and all of a sudden 404 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:39,079 the guy changed. It's like e Aneezer, Yes, Scrooge, it's 405 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,759 the same thing. 406 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:44,319 Speaker 3: Well, I think that you can focus on the positive 407 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,039 attributes of a person and you will get more of 408 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:49,279 that from them and less of what you don't like 409 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:50,440 if you focus on. 410 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,079 Speaker 4: It or focus on just like if you're behind a driver, 411 00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:57,599 old people, elderly people that are driving and they're having 412 00:21:57,599 --> 00:21:59,799 a good conversation and they're going they're going way below 413 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:01,839 this limit. It's really burning the hell. 414 00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:02,039 Speaker 2: Out of it. 415 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,279 Speaker 4: Just think of maybe they're talking about the grandkids, maybe 416 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,000 they're thinking about the visit that they're going to go to, 417 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,839 and turn it around so that you aren't focused on 418 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,720 your anger or the stress of you you not getting 419 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:18,400 up soon it really is relate for work. So you're 420 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,119 beating yourself up because you did it again. 421 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,799 Speaker 2: Here we go. It's all perspective, right, It's all perspective. 422 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:26,319 Speaker 4: Positivity and perspective. 423 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: Can emerging technologies, and we think about AI. We hear 424 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:33,759 a lot about that, biofeedback devices. You've got wearable tech 425 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,160 that can a person who's on the Bilified podcast had 426 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,559 wearable tech, uh heart rate. Yeah, we kind of talk 427 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,920 about a fib he learned at a fit because of that. 428 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:50,279 But can they enhance or complement quantum energy healing? Yes, yeah, 429 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,960 so they're tools that can help. 430 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 431 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:56,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't think that though, let see or 432 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:56,759 not taught that. 433 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: No, But the advancement and energy is the quantum stage 434 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,880 that we're in now. It is the energy of the 435 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,359 frequency of the Earth and the magnetic field from the 436 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,200 galactic or the metaphysics of it, and how it relates 437 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,680 to the frequency of everything on planet Earth, whether it's 438 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,119 your body, whether it's technology, whether it is all the 439 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,799 new stuff that's come up in society, in medical but 440 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,160 especially the AI. So this change that we're happening and 441 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,640 the people's fear of the bad AI by taking it 442 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,319 for bad things, which it can be and it has been, 443 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 but it also can be for the good. And that's 444 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,960 where more people are being enlightened, wakening up and saying, Okay, 445 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,039 I'm going to use it for the good. And they'll 446 00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:49,400 you know, the whistleblowers, the ones that are coming out 447 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,039 and say no, I'm not going to do that, and 448 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,440 of course they're going to pay the price. But you 449 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,799 rather have it for the good than for the bad, 450 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:59,680 because you know the consequences of the bad, and that's 451 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,359 exactly what's happened in our past. That's the wisdom part 452 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,920 of saying, Okay, if I don't do anything and change 453 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,519 the situation, nothing's going to change. It's going to continue 454 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,519 the way it is. And that's why a lot of 455 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,960 people have stepped up and say I've got to say something. 456 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:17,799 This can't go on anymore. It's wrong. 457 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,759 Speaker 2: So yeah, that would okay, so. 458 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,319 Speaker 4: And the same with the AI stuff it's happening. 459 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: I would take I would ask this because there are. 460 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: People always talk about dark forces, dark energy, and I 461 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,720 always wonder if and it's a very very simple philosophical 462 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,839 idea that the being that is in me is the 463 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:45,480 being that's in the tree and the being. But all 464 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:50,079 evil is because all things came from source, and all 465 00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:55,359 things come from good. Is a privation of good? Do 466 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,880 you understand what I'm saying? Almost like it came here, 467 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,799 you're giving free will whatever that is, whatever that energy is, 468 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480 and it drops to a lower frequency. 469 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: So it started out, is that? Or am I? I mean? 470 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,519 That was the sort of the philosophy, very simple. 471 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,319 Speaker 3: I think it was Thomas Aquina's more or less that 472 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:16,799 it was everything that comes from God is of the 473 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:20,319 God source and is good. But when it gets here 474 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,200 there can be a privation, but there's some good in it. 475 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: It all started out as good. 476 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: Well exactly, and if you it's. 477 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,599 Speaker 2: Almost like the story of Star Wars what it is. 478 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: And when you apply it to when I keep talking 479 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,400 about tapping into your wisdom and your past lives, you 480 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,039 know a lot of people don't believe that, but I do, 481 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,319 and many other people are wakening up to that, and 482 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,759 we're different. Remembrance of past lives come through. It's all 483 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:49,720 about going through those past lives, learning from good and bad, 484 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,559 your choices, whether you want to be a good person 485 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,920 or a bad person. But it's also building your human development. 486 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,599 That's why you came here from your soul, came here 487 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,359 to experience being a human good and bad, and so 488 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,119 that then you can pull upon that to use in 489 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,960 the good. And that's what's happening now with the two 490 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,359 modalities that I use, Integrated Energy Therapy and Unity Fields 491 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,039 healing ie T is about the stuff that needs to 492 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:21,359 be cleared in yourself, the issues and the tissues, and 493 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:25,400 Unity field healing is about the quantum energy being unified 494 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,920 in the higher frequency of who you really are as 495 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,319 a divine being, going back and allowing all the good 496 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,160 stuff from your past, not the bad stuff. A lot 497 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,839 of people we've talked about this before, have past life 498 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:43,759 meetings because they know something is holding us back. Okay, 499 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,160 you can look at it, but you don't have to 500 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,920 stay in there. Now, look at the stuff that got 501 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,279 you through it. How did you get through it? A 502 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:51,880 lot of people. I didn't. I was stabbed and I 503 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,960 was killed. Okay, that lifetime, let's go to another lifetime. 504 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,880 It's all about learning the experience, building those spiritual barbells 505 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,599 in that lifetime and then bringing it into this lifetime. 506 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,119 How do we use it in this lifetime? And that's 507 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,640 where the heart comes in. Again, and the heart connection 508 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,759 to the magnetic field, and your thoughts are energy, and 509 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,359 what thoughts you put out there is what you get back. 510 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,160 And we all have been around people that have that 511 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:24,079 anger and that lower frequency in them, and we feel 512 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680 it and we don't want to be around them. I 513 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:28,839 just want to get out of here. But the best 514 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,759 part is when you understand it and you learn about it, 515 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,680 you can go through it and no longer can be 516 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,839 trapped within you or get stuck within you. And this 517 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,599 allows your spirit to make different choices. And that's what's 518 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,319 happening on the planet. People are wakening up and saying, no, 519 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,079 we don't want World War three, we want to sell things, 520 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:52,519 and that's exactly what's happening. We're trying to stop everything enough. 521 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,640 We're not going there. That's old energy, that's old ways 522 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,799 of doing things, and we as divine beings, have the 523 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:01,839 to change it, but it has to. 524 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:05,039 Speaker 3: Be individual that There was a when you and I 525 00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,119 did the panel. I think there was a question of, like, 526 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,279 how do we get the collective light? The only thing 527 00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:11,559 I can think of is you can't get the collective light. 528 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,079 You can change yourself and maybe by that example change 529 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:19,359 someone else, possibly if they see you. Why is everything 530 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,319 always working out for you? What is your secret that together? 531 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,519 Then you kind of can do that, but it has 532 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,880 to start with the individual first. You can't you can't 533 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,440 control anybody else exactly. 534 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 4: You can't control right, But that's why it's always about you. 535 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,400 And it's like we never stop learning. No, no, And 536 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,960 a lot of people say to me, well, you know 537 00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,559 you're a healer, you work with energy. Why don't you 538 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,519 just heal yourself. I have in many areas and some 539 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,079 things I can't. However, I accept it, and then I 540 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,759 know things that I can change and what I can't change. 541 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,680 And I'm a human. I'm going to continue having these 542 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,240 trials and obstacles in my life, challenges and also what 543 00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:59,720 choices do I use all the way up to the 544 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:00,359 very end? 545 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Talk about the the end. 546 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: First one when I talk about hospital, my hospice work, Yeah, 547 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,559 that's exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm so blessed 548 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,680 to be a hospice worker for and also all the 549 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440 death I've had in my own family, it has taught 550 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,359 me how to relate from coming from love and not 551 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,720 coming from the fear or the actual persona of the relationship. 552 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,200 When they were here in life. 553 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,039 Speaker 2: Form somebody I haven't read or heard. 554 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what we We hear about dementia, 555 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,119 and we hear about trying to you know, find cures 556 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,599 or meta something that's going to help, and how how 557 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,200 hard that is for other family members to see, and 558 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,039 it's really bad. 559 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,079 Speaker 2: But I you go back to the individual. 560 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: So the person that is having these symptoms, are they 561 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:58,319 holding on to life and really slowly crossing over even 562 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:01,599 while they're sort of consciously hear there just for some 563 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,799 reason holding on and not. 564 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going I don't know many variables about that. Yes, 565 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,160 from my own expose anyway. Right, So dementia and hospice 566 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,720 the two separate things. Then they can be the same 567 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,559 because the person could have dementia and then they're going 568 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,599 to the hospice and all of a sudden they clear 569 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,519 up a day or so before, they've got the right 570 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,640 mind and you know everything, they remember everything. And then 571 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 also they can have communication from their loved ones at 572 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,559 the same time. And people say, well, they're just hallucinating, 573 00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,559 and they're not. It's not they're not really seen. Well 574 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:38,240 guess what they are. That shows that the spirit is 575 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,440 just in a different frequency, right, and that because they 576 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,039 are getting ready to cross over, that veil is open 577 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,359 so that they can communicate. You hear that all the time, 578 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,519 and I know what, I've experienced it myself. I've experienced it. 579 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,640 And then there's people that have the dementia that or 580 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,480 well that was a dimensional one. But people who are 581 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440 fearful of dying and that they hold on to the 582 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 last breath, they hold on, hold on, hold on, and 583 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,799 or they hold on for the black sheep of the 584 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,279 family to come back. And the family members that took 585 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,759 care of them, you know, really pissed because the mom, 586 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,640 you can go, you can go, but no, they're holding 587 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,079 on so that they can have closure with the last person. 588 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,000 And also sometimes they don't want to leave is because 589 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,960 they're they're fearful of the family members how they're going 590 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,480 to survive because they've always been in the caretaker role 591 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,839 and and it's it's time to let go of the 592 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,799 persona and that you did the best you could what 593 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,039 you had. Now I know there's a lot of things 594 00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,880 come into play that whether it's the caretaking role or 595 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,279 whether it is a fear of dying because of all 596 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,759 the guilt you still have inside that you're afraid to 597 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,039 face those people or if a lace face, to face 598 00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:57,960 those face. 599 00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: On the other side on the other But I always 600 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,519 think it's just pure positive love and no resistance. 601 00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: It is so, however, but we're programmed. Yes, it were 602 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000 so bad because we didn't go to church on Sunday. 603 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:12,079 We didn't do this, and it's imprinted within the programming 604 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,920 from early childhood that it's still there. I've had many 605 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,519 stories of working in the hospital and I was called 606 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:23,039 to help somebody cross over, but to do a healing 607 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:26,400 on them, somebody I knew very well, and my manager said, yeah, 608 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,319 I go for it, and I did. And he was 609 00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,640 so fearful and the guilty had as a as a 610 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,599 Christian boy, as a Catholic boy, that what the nuns 611 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:36,079 told him he was bad. He was bad, he was 612 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,440 bad and his parents and so he was afraid to 613 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200 cross over. And then finally when I was able to 614 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,599 bring the angels over and his daughter also was in 615 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,680 the room at the same time, it's okay, you can 616 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,559 let it go. That's that's what healing is all about. 617 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,079 That's what the electromagnetic field can do between two people 618 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,319 when it's the right. 619 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: Intention that's it's interesting because I I, you know, we 620 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200 were about heaven and hell and all these things, and 621 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,160 you don't want to burn in hell. And I feel 622 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,039 like when your energy, you're never going to cease to 623 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:15,160 exist in some form. But when you go, when you 624 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,920 do leave this right, you leave this earth suit, you 625 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,000 go into back into pure positive love, and there is 626 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:29,519 no resistance, and that you could live similarly, probably not 627 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,319 exactly the same, because you are having a human experience 628 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,279 here by letting things go, not taking things too seriously 629 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,759 and sort of just kind of going with the flow. 630 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:44,279 But I'm watching a loved one now who has Parkinson's 631 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,559 and the mind is still sharp, but every day is 632 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,519 getting worse at worse and worse and. 633 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: Can't move and can't and will say I'm dying. 634 00:33:56,359 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: And you know you don't know what to say say 635 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,279 to that, right, So I now will just say I 636 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,079 don't know what to say, that I don't like hearing it, 637 00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:07,119 And the response is I don't like saying it, and 638 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,960 that and that's where my thing is, is this slowly 639 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,679 you are crossing over, but you're holding on in some 640 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,400 way here. 641 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, well. 642 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: I actually experienced that with my mother in law. 643 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 644 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 4: She had Parkinson's for thirteen and I went through all 645 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,840 that too, And even though she wasn't able to recognize 646 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,719 what I was doing, it was really about me. It 647 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,920 was when I was in early recovery, is that I 648 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 made my mens to her soul. All right, I made 649 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,079 my men's to her verbally outside and she didn't know 650 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,079 what I was talking about because she wasn't at the 651 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,239 same level of understanding that I was. However, my soul 652 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 needed to say it. And I know now as she's 653 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,039 in spirit that I'm forgiven. Right, it was about my 654 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,519 forgiven but also her spirit knew that. Her spirit knew that. 655 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000 And you know, Parkinson's a hard thing. It's a very 656 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,159 hard thing. But so it's cancer and so of all 657 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:06,920 the other ones. It's really about the soul letting go 658 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,719 and going back in to the power that they have inside. 659 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,280 And then it is all about love. And once they 660 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,679 cross over, you know, they can come back in many 661 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:17,880 many forms. Most of the time they come back in 662 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,119 the same persona so that you understand it, you recognize them. 663 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,400 If you go to a medium and they can't crossover, 664 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,880 like my friends Jus Engeeseman you know when she gives 665 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440 examples about that, and she helped me. She has one 666 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,760 of my teachers to teach about evidential mediumship that you 667 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,840 know that it is from spirit, because only spirit would 668 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,079 know certain things. And that's the stuff that they and 669 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,719 their frequency is able to put into our brains that 670 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,159 we can actually observe it and then speak it or 671 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,320 say certain things. You know, I learned that learning mediumship myself. However, 672 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,320 my own experience in this lifetime, I think I shared 673 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920 with you one time with your audience about when my 674 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,840 brother passed in twenty nineteen and now it came to me. 675 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,320 And then it was just about a year and a 676 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,159 half ago that he came to me again when I 677 00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:06,360 was in a restaurant to give a beautiful gift to 678 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,559 one of his best friends. And it was five years 679 00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:12,400 later and he was talking to his friends. His friend 680 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,119 was thinking about my brother two or three days before, 681 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,199 and it was still upsetting him that they couldn't have 682 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,639 made amends. But my brother came to me and around 683 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,039 the whole situation in the restaurant, and I seen him 684 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,679 go over to this gentleman and give him a big hug, 685 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,679 and it was a it was a closure. It was 686 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,280 a love frequency that I was able to give that gift. 687 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,199 But my brother gave that gift to his best friend. 688 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,719 You know that they're still here, they're still watching, they're 689 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,480 still around us giving us help. But we have to 690 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,000 believe it. We have to know it, you know, intentionwise, 691 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,559 I want to communicate with my brother, Okay, come today whatever, 692 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,800 and they can if you wanted to put it that way. 693 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,880 But you've got to be open to looking for the signs. 694 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,599 And a lot of people aren't they Oh, that's ridiculous, 695 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,960 that's just that's not me, that's just my imagination. Well 696 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,039 guess what, it's not your imagination. That's how it works. 697 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,519 In in fact, somebody was asking me that yesterday and 698 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,320 I gave that same the same thing. It came through. 699 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,760 It's like, no, you go with the first thought that 700 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,519 you come because that is the connection with the vibration, 701 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,519 and that's what is usually the truth. And a lot 702 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,679 of times when you try to second guessed it, you know, 703 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,119 that's our analytical mind, right, that's where we're trying to 704 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:32,400 go back to human and spirit isn't human. No, no, no, 705 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,719 that's what But we came here to learn these things and. 706 00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,119 Speaker 2: Boy, there's because it evolve. 707 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,079 Speaker 3: Here's where people kind of could get a little off, 708 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,039 but I'll say, I'll ask this. So there are those 709 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,280 like doctor Deep who studies iravatic medicine and does a 710 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,639 lot of the knotty water with the knotty rod and 711 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,400 the energy and the changing in the water. And they've 712 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,760 done experiments here and then MIT and things where you 713 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,639 can actually see the frozen water after it's charged. The 714 00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,559 pattern is not chaotic, it's very it's almost like I 715 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:08,840 think a lotus flower. 716 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 4: It looks like, well, what what I have suggested before 717 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960 is have in the in the audience, go and watch 718 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:17,840 the One Field and it's and it shows all of that. 719 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,119 It shows the water, it shows how just thought with 720 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,480 this placebo pill, you know, if you think it's gonna 721 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,280 help it will help. And also communication with a heart 722 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,719 coherence across the world, all right, and then how it changes. 723 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,119 And they scientifically proven and shown it and it's been 724 00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,119 out for quite a while. It's called the One Field. 725 00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:40,639 And I can give you that link. You can put 726 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,039 it in there. 727 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Yeah, that'd be great. I would 728 00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:44,480 love to put that up on the website. 729 00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: So there's there's a lot of evidence out there. 730 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but when we talk about so let's say. 731 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: Well we all experience it, and a lot of times 732 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,480 we experienced it, but we don't want to admit that 733 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,400 we experience it, right, and so then we can't use 734 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,000 it when it happens, or. 735 00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: I think we are using it. 736 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: I think we are using it when we talk about 737 00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,320 like past lives means that there could be a future life, right, 738 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,079 you could choose to come back, and but how to 739 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,480 then Let's say, for example, your brother chooses to come back, 740 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280 but it's only like a doctor deep will tell you 741 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:29,840 this is two percent of what you are and a 742 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,920 spirit is all spirit. And then so if your brother 743 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,039 went into a new body, could you still call on 744 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:37,280 that energy? 745 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,559 Speaker 4: I think I know where you're gonna at. 746 00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: Do you understand I'm saying like it's two different things? Well, 747 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,679 how can I call him if he came back and 748 00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:43,239 the past lives? 749 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,159 Speaker 2: That's my question? 750 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,599 Speaker 4: First of all, the energy of a soul never dies, 751 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,960 and it's everywhere all the time, So you can be 752 00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,199 in another body and also still with your loved ones 753 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,320 in spirit the whole time they are alive, because that's 754 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,800 a contract you the love connection all right with the soul. 755 00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,719 So you can very much so, and a lot of 756 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,360 times you feel things in people that you know them, 757 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,519 And how can that be because that person is still alive? 758 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,320 How can that be? It is because you can be 759 00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,199 in different bodies at the same time. It's the soul, 760 00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,280 and the soul has the capacity to do that. 761 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,079 Speaker 2: That's the stuff that people go all right about. 762 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:28,079 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know what. 763 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 3: I asked that because I think and I've only had 764 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:39,039 too many similar uh, too much similar information come from 765 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:40,519 different sources about that. 766 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,519 Speaker 4: Well, well, you know, cryon Lee Carroll uh talked about 767 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,199 also animals coming back. Uh, you can have an animal 768 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,280 that comes back in the same type of breed, but 769 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,320 you can have an animal with totally different breed, but 770 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,519 it has the same personality as your old animal, all right, 771 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:01,239 and then also switching uh soul's type of thing or 772 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960 personalities of the dog, that type of stuff. There's a 773 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,840 lot of evidence about that too. A lot of people 774 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,760 I don't believe that. Well, that's part of the energy 775 00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,320 medicine that's out there that has been proven, but it 776 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,119 hasn't been allowed to come out. Now it's being allowed 777 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,079 to come out, things are going to be wonderful going forward, 778 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,840 but we have to go through this hard time first, 779 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,079 and that's where we all are. We're all in that 780 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,840 limbo stock and how do we deal with this? How 781 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,280 do we deal with this? It's one day at a time. Yeah, yeah, 782 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,360 it's simple, right, keep it simple, and to go with 783 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,079 inside and believe and even if you don't believe, like 784 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,280 an AA, you know when they say, when you have 785 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,599 a resentment towards somebody, pray for them for ten two weeks, 786 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,199 you know, everything that you want for yourself, even that's 787 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,320 all right, You pray for them, and then within two 788 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360 weeks your feelings have changed. But also they've changed. And 789 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,920 because it's in the field, if you're on the same 790 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,679 spiritual wavelength, you know, a lot of people are fearful 791 00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:10,599 of changing. They're very fearful of changing in this spirit walm, 792 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,320 you know, because they don't know how to survive, and 793 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,199 that is the lower frequency. And until they start to 794 00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:22,480 have the experiences, then they actually start to understand it. 795 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,320 And it's part of them hitting their bottom. Yeah, or 796 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,559 it's time. I can't go anyplace else, you know. And 797 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,119 the money situation that we all have, it's the same thing, 798 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400 you know, everything going up and everything, how are we 799 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,039 going to survive or whatever? It's like it's only money, 800 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,480 it is energy and energy. 801 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: I've often thought that too, and I would say, you know, 802 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,480 it's currency, which current electricity in and out, in and out. 803 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,280 But there is this thing where there's you look at 804 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,239 it and go, there's not enough, and so you start 805 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,119 to panic. Yes, and that's a very real feeling and 806 00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,280 it's a very real concern. But you say, stuck there. 807 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,679 And that's the stuff that I think. 808 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,159 Speaker 4: Like, that's where energy medicine comes in. 809 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,079 Speaker 3: Okay, So I think like a lot of people can 810 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:17,280 be spiritual to a point. Do you understand what I'm saying, Well, 811 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,639 here's why. What I'm saying is like I can be spiritual. 812 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,480 I can believe that, you know, go forth and tell 813 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,800 no one I'm going to focus on this. 814 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 2: I can go inside myself. I can do that. But 815 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,840 the money's not in my bank account. 816 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,199 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. The money's not in 817 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,639 my bank account. And therefore I abandon everything that is 818 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,920 over here spirituality wise and in my thinking and going 819 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,760 inside and getting to a higher frequency and doing all that, 820 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,360 and I bring myself to a lower frequency and I 821 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,719 panic about it, and I worry about it because that's real, 822 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,159 that's real. I can see that that's a real number, 823 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,840 and that's not the number I need, and blah blah, 824 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,119 blah blah, and we abandon everything. So there do you do? 825 00:43:58,159 --> 00:43:59,920 You am I making sense? I don't know if I'm 826 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,280 make sense right, But it's like, I, yes, I believe 827 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,840 all this stuff, but then do I Because I'm sitting 828 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,599 over here looking at my bank account, I'm having a 829 00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:09,199 panic attack. 830 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,679 Speaker 4: We're all doing it, yeah, we're all doing it right, And. 831 00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 3: I think those are the things that where if you 832 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,159 can take this stuff and do real application of it, 833 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,159 you've got to go inside. You've got to settle down, 834 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,480 you've got to listen and follow that inspiration. 835 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:30,119 Speaker 2: And I will tell you, as someone who has been 836 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,960 there for what feels. 837 00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 3: Like far too long, you know, I had a a 838 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719 what we say, a career shift or whatever, and you 839 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,960 went from making a lot of money to not making 840 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440 the same amount of money. But your life was based 841 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,800 on this over here, and it wasn't like you could 842 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,400 really change anything. I mean, just boom. So you've been 843 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,039 trying to then play catch up, and you're ignoring things 844 00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,960 and you're doing that, and there's this, And I do 845 00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,000 think sometimes if you just relax, you sort of listen, 846 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:05,440 you tune in, you don't panic, and you follow the intuition, 847 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,320 everything will come to you. It's all there for you. 848 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,440 All the money you want is is like an escrow already. 849 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,039 You just have to get on the same vibration of it. 850 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:18,320 And it sounds freaking nutty when you say that to people, 851 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,559 because I'm going, Okay, that sounds fucking great, but look 852 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:22,440 at my bank account. 853 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 4: No, I know, all right, So that. 854 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:26,079 Speaker 2: Is and that's like the real world out. 855 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 4: So there we go with the programming, the belief and 856 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,400 the behaviors. Again, it limits you from going forward. That's 857 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,480 what's being stuck is. That's why I talk about recovery. 858 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:44,320 It's not just alcoholism or addiction, right, It's about whatever 859 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:46,760 is not working for you, that doesn't bring you joy, 860 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,719 that doesn't make you feel happy inside. You have to 861 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,440 take a look at it, but you have to do 862 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,519 something about it. In recovery. I love the twelve step 863 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:58,320 programs when I started forty years ago because I was 864 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,679 able to see it in action. You have a homeless 865 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,519 person talking with a CEO and then you have a 866 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,360 if you have a doctor talking to a baker. All right, 867 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,639 when you go back into the books of AA, is 868 00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:14,159 that the way they get through and the spiritual part 869 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,400 is through the heart. 870 00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: And the exactly. 871 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 4: And that's what unity field healing is that's here now, 872 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,320 is that it's the unity of the coherence field in 873 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,440 the quantum energy that's here. It is within your field 874 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:33,639 right here in this room with all these electronics stuff. 875 00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:36,719 And about when you sleep. You talked about that about 876 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,960 if you don't get the right sleep and all the 877 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,360 stuff that is being emanating or emitting out in the 878 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,000 field when you're sleeping because there's not as much energy 879 00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:48,320 going through as it would be in the day, so 880 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,719 it's actually bombarding your energy field within your house and stuff. 881 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,400 But it's about you switching, you changing finally, that's what Okay, 882 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,920 all right, I'm going to do that. But it takes work. 883 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:01,639 It's about taking action. 884 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 3: But this is the thing that I think people need 885 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,719 evidence base evidence. 886 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,679 Speaker 4: So look at your life. What I always say, look 887 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,679 at your life five years ago when COVID happened. Look 888 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,239 how we were so fearful, all the drama, everything that 889 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400 we were told. They told us to wear the mask. 890 00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:21,719 They told us I can't breathe without the mask. They 891 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,519 told us to take the shot. We wouldn't get the 892 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:27,360 we wouldn't get COVID. We got COVID. Anyway, all the 893 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,400 things that was we didn't know. We thought we were 894 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,920 doing right, but things come out that what was hidden 895 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,079 that wasn't right right. And also with that shot for me, 896 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,719 you know, I had reservations about it too, but I 897 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,599 chose to take the shot after I had COVID. By 898 00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,400 the way, it was because I told my cells that 899 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,840 it wasn't going to hurt I actually went inside and 900 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,360 talked to myselves. Listen, you know, I'm the main guy here. 901 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,920 I'm going to tell you what to do. You're going 902 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,519 to go in and do what you need to do 903 00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,679 to help me, not to hurt me. And that's where 904 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,000 you change your thought process. You change the energy field 905 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:10,280 of what you're thinking. And yes, it does seem very simple, 906 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,880 but it's that's the energy that's here now, that is 907 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,480 available if you choose. And the coincidences, you know, they're 908 00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:23,280 not coincidence, They're exactly what it's supposed to be. It's 909 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,840 all about our choice, you know. And and of course 910 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:33,239 you know the baker and the CEO, you know, the 911 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,000 homeless person and the doctor the same thing. It could 912 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,360 be either or it's one heart talking to another, okay, 913 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,800 and the belief is that, Okay, I have to do different. 914 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: You know. 915 00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 4: I've been programmed and I believe this. However, maybe my 916 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:49,800 belief is changed. Just like with me, even though I 917 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,320 don't practice in the Catholic faith anymore, I still have 918 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,960 the faith that I got had from Jesus and Mother 919 00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:59,559 Mary and Mary Magdalene. And whenever I see a picture 920 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,679 of an angel, and that's why I'm always the angel person. 921 00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:05,239 I feel that love inside. I go back to that, 922 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239 you know. And it doesn't have to be you know, 923 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,599 you have to do this for it to happen. No, 924 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,280 it's an inside job. Whatever, we'll get through to you, 925 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,800 right And that's why they always say, look to the gratitude, 926 00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,639 righte A thankfulness every single day, a gratitude loosen things 927 00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,119 that you're thankful for each and every day. It's the 928 00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:27,840 positive things that goes out there. 929 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,599 Speaker 2: You know. 930 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 4: You got to do it because we do it over 931 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,559 and over and we just get fed up with it 932 00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,840 and we say, enough of this crap, I'm out of here. 933 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,519 Speaker 3: You know, but also I'm famous for putting it all 934 00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,320 in a dumbstir all are. 935 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,039 Speaker 4: Yesterday I had to go with the okay, come on back, 936 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,320 you know, we have to do it time. And it's 937 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,000 funny because when you do it in the car and 938 00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:57,679 your driver or whatever, and then you pull over and say, okay, okay, 939 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,719 are you okay? So I just little time here right now? 940 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:01,519 Speaker 2: Right? 941 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: Well, I think self awareness is a big part of this, right, 942 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,440 being self aware, and that's what we call it in 943 00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,639 our world's Oh he's very self aware of that. 944 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,079 Speaker 2: Well, well, he's in tune. 945 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: People might say, also, you're being very selfish. They use 946 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,320 that word. 947 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 2: I think you have to. 948 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,519 Speaker 4: In integrated energy therapy, we have a thing that's called 949 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,159 spiritual selfishness, okay, and where you are practicing coming from 950 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,800 your heart and putting out the compassion. All right, you're 951 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,599 purposely focusing on yourself things that you need to change 952 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,039 about yourself. You have in spiritual compassion for yourself, and 953 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,480 then you can actually emanate it out for somebody else 954 00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:40,480 when it happens to somebody else and you're right in 955 00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:43,000 the middle of that field. But you have to build it. 956 00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,239 Same with building your higher consciousness. How do you connect 957 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,360 with it years ago? Yogi sit and meditate for an 958 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,920 hours at a time. You don't need to do that 959 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,119 anymore because we've evolved. So keep it very simple. You know, 960 00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:59,840 when it happens, laugh at yourself and say, Okay, I 961 00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,440 know what's going to get better. It's happened many, many times. 962 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480 And think of what I've always remember one of my 963 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,079 grand sponsors, Ruby Luback in AA, she always says, think 964 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:11,119 of the last before the first and go to a meeting. 965 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,880 Think of the last how you felt before you finally 966 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:18,599 let go and let god you did something about your alcoholism. Yeah, 967 00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,440 all right, because that's going to keep you in the 968 00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,840 gratitude of keeping going forward, right, And that's anything in 969 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,960 your life, especially this energy that we're in. 970 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: Now a day. 971 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when you can see it as 972 00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:35,320 it's a momentum, that and you want to keep it 973 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,679 as a positive momentum, and you can equate it to 974 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,760 very easily to a diet, Right, Well, where will I 975 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,519 stick to the diet when I start seeing the results 976 00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:45,679 and I start seeing the stuff and I start feeling better. 977 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,800 And then once you start feeling better, there all of 978 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,760 a sudden, everything else starts to be going good. That 979 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,320 is what we're talking about, the depression. 980 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yes, it's because it's repetition, ye behaviors, 981 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,679 you know, programming, you know, to be to get something 982 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,239 that it's a habit. You know, it's not something that 983 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,360 you're going to be striving for. You do it automatically, 984 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,679 you know, just like when you choose which food to eat. 985 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,000 You know, even though you want to have the comfort 986 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,199 food and just manga manja type things. 987 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 2: Fill it up. 988 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, nah, I feel so much better, 989 00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:17,519 you know when I don't eat it and I don't 990 00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:19,079 have the gurd at night, yeah, or when I get 991 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:20,559 up in the morning, I don't have the guilt because 992 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:21,719 of what I did the night before. 993 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,199 Speaker 2: You know. 994 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 4: That's that happened with me thirty two years ago when 995 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,800 I stopped drinking. You know, it's like and I didn't 996 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,840 drink that much, but I had all the all the feelings, yeah, 997 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,320 the feelings of it. Like people's say, I can't believe 998 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,639 that you were an alcoholic. You don't look like an alcoholic, 999 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,519 And I say, well, I don't know what alcoholic looks like, 1000 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:40,519 but I know what it feels like. It's about feelings 1001 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:44,119 and why emotional drinking, you know, and why I was 1002 00:52:44,199 --> 00:52:47,639 upset eating myself up, you know, and this releaves the stress. 1003 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,239 So there's a lot of ways you can look at it. 1004 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,000 And that's because it's I've gone through it. That's how 1005 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:55,880 it works. 1006 00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, And people can go to Shila tillic dot com 1007 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,800 and see all your different things, right, all of. 1008 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,039 Speaker 4: It for everything, and it's not just one thing or 1009 00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,360 it's all of it together. Yes, because once you get 1010 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,760 into the field, your spirit knows how to heal yourself. 1011 00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:14,079 I'm just a conduiteah, you know, and I am so 1012 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:17,320 grateful for all the people to help me. So whether 1013 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,320 it's the classes, whether it's my recovery work, you know, 1014 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,599 whether it's the heart math to understand to bring the 1015 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:27,280 focus back to myself, just be quiet, settle in and 1016 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,119 go with inside and ask for help because you have 1017 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,119 tons of helpers out there and there's people like me 1018 00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:33,840 that help you too. 1019 00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:38,199 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, Yes, that is true. We will close out. 1020 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,000 There's always I always love these I really do. 1021 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 3: I think what did we say we would do once 1022 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:51,559 a month? Okay, so I'm thinking next month, look around 1023 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,719 the July twelfth if you have time. If you can't, 1024 00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:59,280 oh yeah, yeah, just to see because I think I'm 1025 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,440 going to have my my mom come up and I 1026 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:01,960 would have. 1027 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 4: Her remember I class the classes is that. 1028 00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:10,159 Speaker 3: Is that when your classes are the twelve okay, I 1029 00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:10,719 don't want to. 1030 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 4: It builds upon your frequency. So when I do classes, 1031 00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:20,280 Integrated energy therapy is about recalibrating your frequency field in 1032 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,280 your DNA to be able to pick up on the 1033 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,519 spiritualness that you have inside, okay, right, And each level 1034 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,599 builds a bigger level. It's not like reiki we have 1035 00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,480 to practice in between, because this is about your own 1036 00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:38,360 DNA recalibration or older terms is a tument, right, and 1037 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,280 your body knows what needs to be healed. And by 1038 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,320 doing them three in a row, you can start practicing 1039 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,159 and doing this on yourself right now. And that's what 1040 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,440 that's what you feel. That's what I like about my class. 1041 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,960 That the very hands on and so that you can 1042 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,480 feel the energy change in yourself and then you can 1043 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,039 go and help other people. 1044 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,599 Speaker 2: I think all that is is great. So I don't know, 1045 00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,920 would you not have time to do this an hour 1046 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,840 on the twelfth. 1047 00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 4: It would have to be first thing in the morning. 1048 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,679 Because my classes started at nine thirty. Oh wow, can 1049 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,079 get up at by thirty six o'clock. 1050 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do from time to time. 1051 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 4: Today I didn't, But I mean, if we set it up, 1052 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,480 I can set that up. 1053 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll look it into that. We always a pleasure. 1054 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,599 Sheila Tillick dot com. Get that information and delightenment. It's 1055 00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:26,119 got to become its own thing. It's just happening. It's happening. 1056 00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 2: It's happening my friends