Speaker 1: Cranch, your fist, strike a smoke, deny the mess, the
earth beneath your soul. You're true, wisp loud, let them
here every answers in your.
Speaker 2: Mere step into then of friend. The power is in
your hands, no.
Speaker 1: Prey, good show.
Speaker 3: Welcome to another insumment of Bill Lightenman, which I keep
saying that I'm gonna make as its.
Speaker 2: Own podcast, and I promise I will.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a little more time in the next
couple of days, and that's gonna be the.
Speaker 2: Kind of the focus for me.
Speaker 3: But Shila Tillik has been kind enough to come back,
and Sheila has well, I think we should start first
with all the things that you have going on that
people can partake in and be a part of and
learn more about this what I had you muted my
bad yep, Now you're good, Yes, you're good.
Speaker 4: Well, I've got lots of stuff coming this summer, lots
of activities going on. I'm actually part of the Lined
Collective on South Avenue and Tuesdays, every Tuesday night, the
last Tuesday of the month, I'm going to be doing
a question and answers that you can ask the star
mothers how to step in to your multi dimensional spiritual
abilities twenty fourth chromosome. So that is going to be
open to the public, okay, the last Tuesday of the month,
and then in July, I actually have a very intimate
integrated ERI therapy workshop that's the three levels on Friday, eleventh, twelfth,
and thirteenth, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, okay, And then also
the beginning of August I have another one. So almost
every single month I have some type of teaching modality
that you can actually be part of. And what I
always share it's about you learning about you. How do
you stand in your life? How do you understand the
things that need to be healed for yourself? And if
you choose to be practitioner, you can, but most people don't.
And it's about your own personal healing.
Speaker 3: A lot of this is I think it's mistaken. It
is about you the person exactly being. It's for you
to step into your power that was God given, source given,
however you want to phrase it. It's all the things
that this is. It bothers me sometimes because you and
I did a panel at Saint John Fisher University and
one of the other people on the panel talked about
how religion and how they're looked at by family members
and things. And to me, this is what religion should
have been or was trying to teach us. It's not
about controlling people. It's not about buying land and hiding
pedophiles as it went on. Yeah, I mean unfortunately, well,
I mean unfortunately that that happened, and I don't mean
to make light of that in any way. But my
point is that there was a lot of control through
those things programs, and you have to almost I'll just
say this when it comes to religion.
Speaker 2: If you look back through history.
Speaker 3: Religions were changed to fit a person's wants. Right, King
Henry the eighth wanted to bang somebody else and he
couldn't get so he changed from Catholicism to Protestant.
Speaker 2: I mean that's really what it was.
Speaker 3: It was, but I know it's really really graphic and
based the way I'm saying it, but that's what it was.
Speaker 2: So if that's religion, there's something wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But also it's it's you know Martin Luther when
he thesis, and there's so much about that. It was
it's an inside job, your soul connection, yes, to your
soul source, whatever.
Speaker 3: You want to call it, but I think that's so
important and I feel like it needs to be said
ad nauseum, which sounds obnoxious, I guess, but it does
because I feel like it just doesn't you know. It's
like me trying to talk to my fifteen year old son.
I got to say it over. Why do you keep
repeating yourself because you're not doing what I say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like you almost have to I hate to use
the term beats you over the head, but that was
like I gotta beat over that with it. Yes, yeah,
in a way, I'd like to, because you're making we
we are making it harder on ourselves by not stepping
into our own power exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And we've talked many times about your own divinity. What
is your power? Your divinity of the power that you have,
or your choices which you can make, and it's about
love or fear. Talked about that too, and coming from compassion,
and a lot of times we don't know how to
do that because we haven't been taught. Right, We've been
taught follow the rules and you do this, this and this,
but why why do we have to do that? And
that's where the soul comes in, like you totally know,
and that's your soul connection, right, And so that's what's
happening now, is that that energy is coming through. Yeah,
but we as human beings have had to learn that
and sometimes it's very confusing right now. We don't know
what to do. We don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: Thinking of something as I had an incident the other
day where I was driving home and I thought, oh,
let me, I just got the inspiration to pull off
and go into some place.
Speaker 2: And I went in.
Speaker 3: There and the next thing I know, everything's kind of changing.
Speaker 2: And the thing is I no thought of no.
Speaker 3: No, nothing, no, nothing, just it's just sort of But
you can see where if you follow that that into it,
I feel like there are your inner being, I'll call
it that, your soul is trying to say.
Speaker 2: Come this way, come this way, come this way. They're
not going to fight you.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times when you feel crappy, it's
because you're not in alignment with your inner being, right,
alignment with your inter being. And I think that that
is that different than when we talk about quantum energy.
Speaker 2: That's sort of the stuff that's out here.
Speaker 4: That is yes, that is what it is.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: It is so quantum energy is the alignment of who
you are as electromagnetic being why you were here, okay,
And your whole life, yeah, you know the choices that
you make, but your whole life is whether you live
in a higher frequency of love and compassion and not
wanting to hurt somebody, you know, and then taking responsibility
for yourself when you do wrong, you know you did wrong,
instead of living in the ego say well, it's just
too bad, you know, or in the in the lower
frequency of I don't know any other way, So I'm
going to stay stuck and I'm not going to do
better because I'm unworthy. Why it's all about guilt and
also about a worthiness and a loved A lot of
times that we always talk about that energy psychology back
to what you were brought up with in the very
beginning and how you relate to all emotions and everything,
and the quantum energy that's here now is about change
and it's about the higher alignment of who you really
are as a soul.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: And so when you have communication of I should go
down this road and go into here, it could be
good or bad. Okay, oh it is good. No, it
is good. But what why said good or bad? Is
that you know somebody that was really pissed off at
work or whatever, and you're really stressful and you want
to just go home and do which they said over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, So that's.
Speaker 3: And then then but that's not almost you're in being following?
Speaker 4: Is it like the devil and the you know you're
listening to in the brain, you know, the neighborhood. That's
what I said, don't go in the neighborhood alone. Take
somebody with you, you know, in recovery, you know, sponsor
somebody that's been through it. And that's exactly what I do,
is that I've been through it. I'm a recovery metaphysician,
and I share stories because stories are the heart, center
of the gateway. Your heart is the gateway to love
and your experiences and your wisdom. And that's why we
talk about serendipity and sachronosity, why we came together, and
why so many other people are starting to waken up
and they're asking questions, what is alignment? What does that mean?
I'm hearing that all the time. Well, alignment with are
you happy or not happy, and are you in line
to make your life a better situation or do you
want to stay stock? So it's about going inside, yes,
listening to your soul source, your divinity, who you really
are as a divine being. And this energy you know,
was prophesied, it's in the Bible. It's revelation. We're going
through revelation. If you want to go religion, yeah, it's
And if you talk about Native American or indigenous, it
is the time that we've been waiting for. It's the
main calendar it is. It's the change of everything. Yeah,
and that's all astrological. And also it's all about physics
and the energy of the universe.
Speaker 3: Well, when we a lot of times, I think people
will finding this stuff more palatable palpable?
Speaker 2: Am I saying?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: I can understand it simpler terms, in simpler terms.
Speaker 3: If they if there's some kind of we can put
it to science, right, I can go, oh, this can
be proven or that is right. So I would ask
you can quantum energy bridge the gap between science and spirituality?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and it has. However, mainstream hasn't been ready
for it yet. It had to get to a certain
point for it to come out, and I talk about
the thirty six year time period of this quantum change
in humanity, and it has to do with scientific evidence
that the Earth magnetic field is changing. And Heartmanth Institute
and NASA and Princeton University proved that energy is consciousness
and it has to do with what emotions that we
are emitting out into the field. So there is a
lot of science out there. And when you think about
the last five years since COVID, look how much has changed.
Look how much has come out that was hidden. But
also it was all about control and it changed all
of our lives.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm naive in my thinking that
the in the beginning it was for the greater good.
Speaker 2: I like to think that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like there were many people who weren't sure
so try to do things that would be for the
greater good. But when you look at things that so
as that happened, you know, we get people getting tickets
in certain parts of the country for walking in a park.
Do you understand I'm saying, Like to me, then we've
gone a bridge too far.
Speaker 4: But it shows.
Speaker 2: But in the.
Speaker 3: Beginning, I thought, okay, I understand this. It seems to
make sense. Let's try not to have large gatherings of people.
And yet, Sheila, that time for me was magical. I
never see I never stopped working my buddy on the bar.
It became a tree for it, and we all hung
out and pretended we were doing the floors and things
in case any authority came by, and we were just
having a great time. I didn't get sick until almost
like it was over, and then I got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah me too, me too, give me too. But I
you know, we can look back at that and our
reasons for doing whatever we did. Yeah, but the main
thing is that there was a shift in the paradigm
as far as it allowed parents to be more in
tune with their children. Yes, more responsible for their children.
But also it's about our own self reflecting and that's
where a lot of people started this new alignment and
wakening up that they don't have any choice but to
hit their bottom and do different. And so a lot
of people do that. They started, you know, podcasting, they
started different things. They find a lift of jobs or
their jobs was no longer there. So it was like
we had we were forced. But it was really part
of the timeline of what we were going through with
these changes that have been happening, and they've been changing
all along.
Speaker 2: There's some that say that.
Speaker 3: Nothing comes out of the blue, as we say, it
comes out of the oblivious. In other words, you're being
oblivious to your inner being calling you over here or whatever.
So if there is and we call them major life changes,
and they can be traumatic, they can be and there's
something to get through, but there's something comforting about knowing,
at least to in my mind, that you're unconditionally loved,
that the bottom really isn't going to drop out as
far as as long as you keep thinking and taking
the inspiration and putting it to action and not so
much like a grind out, grind out thing, but to action,
and then you can actually change your whole world. I mean,
there are people who believe that you can control the weather.
Speaker 4: Well you can, that is, I know, I know, but
I'm not.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: These things sound so strange people because even my kid
and I have to have a conversation with him because
he gets annoyed, like like we're we're saying bad stuff
about God. Now, he did do some Catholic schooling early
on in his education. But you know, and I and
what I want to say to him is you have
the power. And it's your thoughts that will hold you
or release you or how you want to be. And
you can go in and and yes that's the work.
Not every day you're gonna feel like great, right, but
you got to kind of try to have the practices
to help you get there. And much like working out
at the gym, you can build those muscles.
Speaker 4: So to speaks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the spiritual barbells through.
Speaker 3: And that's where I would ask you, like, what practices
can as we talk about the as you talk about
the shift and the energy, what practices can individuals and
communities adopt to strengthen their energetic resilience?
Speaker 2: Right? Because we we can say I will.
Speaker 3: My saying is life never stops coming at you, right,
And I mean you and I have had conversations, right,
I've told you things, You've told me things where life
never stops coming at you. But you can build your
energetic resilience so you can stay up here and not
let these lower frequencies dictate you.
Speaker 2: Because that goes back.
Speaker 3: To it and let me just put it this way
for anyone listening is it is, I would feel better
if you just were different. Well, you can't control that
person and be different, and you should feel better from inside,
not outside exactly.
Speaker 4: Well, that's where you build compassion in yourself. You change
you first, and how you do that is don't do
what you usually do. And that's why I said, don't
do what you want to do, do what you don't
want to do, meaning turn the TV off, turn the
music off in the background, or excuse me, have the
music more of the frequency low the frequency that's going
to help you stay in a good mood, not the
frequency that's going to change your mood until anger, fear,
and it's in the background because subconsciously, your subconscious is
listening to it. And so make it uh your priority.
To make you a priority, just like we talked about
in the morning. You know, say it's going to be
a great day. I'm excited about to say, and said, oh,
you're right, yeah, you know, And it's all about your You.
Speaker 2: Can you can shift that shift, you can shift shift.
Speaker 4: And I talk about that time when I counsel people
shift your thinking. You you always put it out that
you can't do something.
Speaker 2: What are as we talk about shift?
Speaker 3: What what would you say healer's roles are in supporting
a planetary.
Speaker 4: Shift like this individual.
Speaker 2: That's what I think too.
Speaker 4: All individual however, one always.
Speaker 3: Say a planetary consciousness shift, I will say called coherence.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a coherence consciousness shift. That you have to
be in that coherence field yourself. And that's why I
always say go with inside and it starts with you.
So you have to open up your soul source or
your communication from your heart, the love part of who
you really are as a being, and stay in that
frequency and how you do it with the heart maths
which I talk about all the time, and even if
you don't do it on a regular basis, just coined
your heart and just breathe and think of things that
you love. Just stay in that. You know, I love
my kids, I love my kids.
Speaker 2: That really does raise your vibration. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: And also when you're in the workplace and you have
a person that you know is just set in their ways,
they're going to do way, don't talk. You know, if
they ask you something, just say hold on a second
or can you repeat that again? And give yourself time
as they say ten seconds before you answer, but really
go inside and say help me, help me. Because you
can talk to your subconscious, you can talk to all
the helpers around you. You're talking to your divinity. You're
talking to you who you really are. And the more
you do it, the more you train yourselves to actually
repond to it quicker. That's what heart math techniques are,
is where you used your breathing. It's not a meditation,
it's more of a breathing. But it's also the connection
between your heart and your brain. The shifting of the
positivity or the appreciation or love or remembering something that
somebody did for you, and then you can start to
realize that you can do that for other people. And
like a work situation, if the boss has just really
riven you up or whatever, just listen, but don't take
it on what I talked about on the panel, you
know you can actually, you know, observe, but don't absorb.
Don't absorb their negativity.
Speaker 3: It is that's interesting because I remember reading a lot
of Tick not Han. I'm not sure if you're familiar
with Tick not Han. He's a monk who was I
believe exile Vietnam or maybe went to Vietnam. I don't
remember exactly the story, but his when you were meditating,
it was to observe these thoughts. But just watch them
and you can do that. It's freaky at first, I mean,
you can really do it.
Speaker 4: That's your ability such a that's your intuition or seeing
things before it happened. And then it freaks you out
how that happens. But it's it's in the field. So
when we're talking about quantum energy, right, it's in the
field past, present, and future, right, you know. And there's
some you know thoughts of that. You know, we live
in the future at the same time that we are now,
which I believe that too.
Speaker 3: Well, there are many there are those that say we
we we jumped timelines and shift. It's so weird because
you go, yeah, man, I'm here, I'm talking. You know,
it's strange to me because it feels like it's two worlds.
Speaker 2: Uh no, not woo wu, but two worlds.
Speaker 3: Two worlds in the sense that see it, touch it,
feel it, a real realistic you know this, that and
the other thing.
Speaker 2: And then on the other side it's like just let
it go.
Speaker 3: And there are people will tell you this is all
simulation and you chose to do it, and so dream
and you're dreaming it and whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It sounds too hard sometimes I think the human brain
can only do so much, but the higher mind can
help you do.
Speaker 4: That so well exactly. And as you do these exercises,
whether it's heart math or just sit in the present moment,
which I've talked about all the time, SIP, you are
building new neural transmitters in the brain and that is
scientific too. But you have to keep doing it. You've
got to retrain. It's just like a baby when they
learn to do things. It's in there. It's the same
with dementia patients and people that are starting to lose
their memory or whatever. I mean, there's more to it
than that. But the thing is is that always keep
your brain active, keep it growing. And the higher consciousness
is the soul's part of it.
Speaker 2: That's interesting because.
Speaker 4: And that's why they're so spiritual. The monks are so spiritual, yes,
and they can see things and you can observe things,
just like you can observe things that are happening. Like
a lot of times you don't want to change things
at work or whatever and say, oh, he's gonna come
in and he's gonna blow me away again, and he's
gonna do all this and say, Okay, now what if
it comes in and changes all of a sudden. You know,
he doesn't say that all of a sudden he changes
for the good. That's something you can work on the
day before, put it into the field so that when
they come in the next day and all of a sudden,
they'll say, you know, I had a real experience when
I was sleeping, you know, and all of a sudden
the guy changed. It's like e Aneezer, Yes, Scrooge, it's
the same thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that you can focus on the positive
attributes of a person and you will get more of
that from them and less of what you don't like
if you focus on.
Speaker 4: It or focus on just like if you're behind a driver,
old people, elderly people that are driving and they're having
a good conversation and they're going they're going way below
this limit. It's really burning the hell.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 4: Just think of maybe they're talking about the grandkids, maybe
they're thinking about the visit that they're going to go to,
and turn it around so that you aren't focused on
your anger or the stress of you you not getting
up soon it really is relate for work. So you're
beating yourself up because you did it again.
Speaker 2: Here we go. It's all perspective, right, It's all perspective.
Speaker 4: Positivity and perspective.
Speaker 3: Can emerging technologies, and we think about AI. We hear
a lot about that, biofeedback devices. You've got wearable tech
that can a person who's on the Bilified podcast had
wearable tech, uh heart rate. Yeah, we kind of talk
about a fib he learned at a fit because of that.
But can they enhance or complement quantum energy healing? Yes, yeah,
so they're tools that can help.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't think that though, let see or
not taught that.
Speaker 4: No, But the advancement and energy is the quantum stage
that we're in now. It is the energy of the
frequency of the Earth and the magnetic field from the
galactic or the metaphysics of it, and how it relates
to the frequency of everything on planet Earth, whether it's
your body, whether it's technology, whether it is all the
new stuff that's come up in society, in medical but
especially the AI. So this change that we're happening and
the people's fear of the bad AI by taking it
for bad things, which it can be and it has been,
but it also can be for the good. And that's
where more people are being enlightened, wakening up and saying, Okay,
I'm going to use it for the good. And they'll
you know, the whistleblowers, the ones that are coming out
and say no, I'm not going to do that, and
of course they're going to pay the price. But you
rather have it for the good than for the bad,
because you know the consequences of the bad, and that's
exactly what's happened in our past. That's the wisdom part
of saying, Okay, if I don't do anything and change
the situation, nothing's going to change. It's going to continue
the way it is. And that's why a lot of
people have stepped up and say I've got to say something.
This can't go on anymore. It's wrong.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that would okay, so.
Speaker 4: And the same with the AI stuff it's happening.
Speaker 2: I would take I would ask this because there are.
Speaker 3: People always talk about dark forces, dark energy, and I
always wonder if and it's a very very simple philosophical
idea that the being that is in me is the
being that's in the tree and the being. But all
evil is because all things came from source, and all
things come from good. Is a privation of good? Do
you understand what I'm saying? Almost like it came here,
you're giving free will whatever that is, whatever that energy is,
and it drops to a lower frequency.
Speaker 2: So it started out, is that? Or am I? I mean?
That was the sort of the philosophy, very simple.
Speaker 3: I think it was Thomas Aquina's more or less that
it was everything that comes from God is of the
God source and is good. But when it gets here
there can be a privation, but there's some good in it.
Speaker 2: It all started out as good.
Speaker 4: Well exactly, and if you it's.
Speaker 2: Almost like the story of Star Wars what it is.
Speaker 4: And when you apply it to when I keep talking
about tapping into your wisdom and your past lives, you
know a lot of people don't believe that, but I do,
and many other people are wakening up to that, and
we're different. Remembrance of past lives come through. It's all
about going through those past lives, learning from good and bad,
your choices, whether you want to be a good person
or a bad person. But it's also building your human development.
That's why you came here from your soul, came here
to experience being a human good and bad, and so
that then you can pull upon that to use in
the good. And that's what's happening now with the two
modalities that I use, Integrated Energy Therapy and Unity Fields
healing ie T is about the stuff that needs to
be cleared in yourself, the issues and the tissues, and
Unity field healing is about the quantum energy being unified
in the higher frequency of who you really are as
a divine being, going back and allowing all the good
stuff from your past, not the bad stuff. A lot
of people we've talked about this before, have past life
meetings because they know something is holding us back. Okay,
you can look at it, but you don't have to
stay in there. Now, look at the stuff that got
you through it. How did you get through it? A
lot of people. I didn't. I was stabbed and I
was killed. Okay, that lifetime, let's go to another lifetime.
It's all about learning the experience, building those spiritual barbells
in that lifetime and then bringing it into this lifetime.
How do we use it in this lifetime? And that's
where the heart comes in. Again, and the heart connection
to the magnetic field, and your thoughts are energy, and
what thoughts you put out there is what you get back.
And we all have been around people that have that
anger and that lower frequency in them, and we feel
it and we don't want to be around them. I
just want to get out of here. But the best
part is when you understand it and you learn about it,
you can go through it and no longer can be
trapped within you or get stuck within you. And this
allows your spirit to make different choices. And that's what's
happening on the planet. People are wakening up and saying, no,
we don't want World War three, we want to sell things,
and that's exactly what's happening. We're trying to stop everything enough.
We're not going there. That's old energy, that's old ways
of doing things, and we as divine beings, have the
to change it, but it has to.
Speaker 3: Be individual that There was a when you and I
did the panel. I think there was a question of, like,
how do we get the collective light? The only thing
I can think of is you can't get the collective light.
You can change yourself and maybe by that example change
someone else, possibly if they see you. Why is everything
always working out for you? What is your secret that together?
Then you kind of can do that, but it has
to start with the individual first. You can't you can't
control anybody else exactly.
Speaker 4: You can't control right, But that's why it's always about you.
And it's like we never stop learning. No, no, And
a lot of people say to me, well, you know
you're a healer, you work with energy. Why don't you
just heal yourself. I have in many areas and some
things I can't. However, I accept it, and then I
know things that I can change and what I can't change.
And I'm a human. I'm going to continue having these
trials and obstacles in my life, challenges and also what
choices do I use all the way up to the
very end?
Speaker 2: Talk about the the end.
Speaker 4: First one when I talk about hospital, my hospice work, Yeah,
that's exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm so blessed
to be a hospice worker for and also all the
death I've had in my own family, it has taught
me how to relate from coming from love and not
coming from the fear or the actual persona of the relationship.
When they were here in life.
Speaker 2: Form somebody I haven't read or heard.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what we We hear about dementia,
and we hear about trying to you know, find cures
or meta something that's going to help, and how how
hard that is for other family members to see, and
it's really bad.
Speaker 2: But I you go back to the individual.
Speaker 3: So the person that is having these symptoms, are they
holding on to life and really slowly crossing over even
while they're sort of consciously hear there just for some
reason holding on and not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going I don't know many variables about that. Yes,
from my own expose anyway. Right, So dementia and hospice
the two separate things. Then they can be the same
because the person could have dementia and then they're going
to the hospice and all of a sudden they clear
up a day or so before, they've got the right
mind and you know everything, they remember everything. And then
also they can have communication from their loved ones at
the same time. And people say, well, they're just hallucinating,
and they're not. It's not they're not really seen. Well
guess what they are. That shows that the spirit is
just in a different frequency, right, and that because they
are getting ready to cross over, that veil is open
so that they can communicate. You hear that all the time,
and I know what, I've experienced it myself. I've experienced it.
And then there's people that have the dementia that or
well that was a dimensional one. But people who are
fearful of dying and that they hold on to the
last breath, they hold on, hold on, hold on, and
or they hold on for the black sheep of the
family to come back. And the family members that took
care of them, you know, really pissed because the mom,
you can go, you can go, but no, they're holding
on so that they can have closure with the last person.
And also sometimes they don't want to leave is because
they're they're fearful of the family members how they're going
to survive because they've always been in the caretaker role
and and it's it's time to let go of the
persona and that you did the best you could what
you had. Now I know there's a lot of things
come into play that whether it's the caretaking role or
whether it is a fear of dying because of all
the guilt you still have inside that you're afraid to
face those people or if a lace face, to face
those face.
Speaker 3: On the other side on the other But I always
think it's just pure positive love and no resistance.
Speaker 4: It is so, however, but we're programmed. Yes, it were
so bad because we didn't go to church on Sunday.
We didn't do this, and it's imprinted within the programming
from early childhood that it's still there. I've had many
stories of working in the hospital and I was called
to help somebody cross over, but to do a healing
on them, somebody I knew very well, and my manager said, yeah,
I go for it, and I did. And he was
so fearful and the guilty had as a as a
Christian boy, as a Catholic boy, that what the nuns
told him he was bad. He was bad, he was
bad and his parents and so he was afraid to
cross over. And then finally when I was able to
bring the angels over and his daughter also was in
the room at the same time, it's okay, you can
let it go. That's that's what healing is all about.
That's what the electromagnetic field can do between two people
when it's the right.
Speaker 3: Intention that's it's interesting because I I, you know, we
were about heaven and hell and all these things, and
you don't want to burn in hell. And I feel
like when your energy, you're never going to cease to
exist in some form. But when you go, when you
do leave this right, you leave this earth suit, you
go into back into pure positive love, and there is
no resistance, and that you could live similarly, probably not
exactly the same, because you are having a human experience
here by letting things go, not taking things too seriously
and sort of just kind of going with the flow.
But I'm watching a loved one now who has Parkinson's
and the mind is still sharp, but every day is
getting worse at worse and worse and.
Speaker 2: Can't move and can't and will say I'm dying.
Speaker 3: And you know you don't know what to say say
to that, right, So I now will just say I
don't know what to say, that I don't like hearing it,
And the response is I don't like saying it, and
that and that's where my thing is, is this slowly
you are crossing over, but you're holding on in some
way here.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, well.
Speaker 4: I actually experienced that with my mother in law.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4: She had Parkinson's for thirteen and I went through all
that too, And even though she wasn't able to recognize
what I was doing, it was really about me. It
was when I was in early recovery, is that I
made my mens to her soul. All right, I made
my men's to her verbally outside and she didn't know
what I was talking about because she wasn't at the
same level of understanding that I was. However, my soul
needed to say it. And I know now as she's
in spirit that I'm forgiven. Right, it was about my
forgiven but also her spirit knew that. Her spirit knew that.
And you know, Parkinson's a hard thing. It's a very
hard thing. But so it's cancer and so of all
the other ones. It's really about the soul letting go
and going back in to the power that they have inside.
And then it is all about love. And once they
cross over, you know, they can come back in many
many forms. Most of the time they come back in
the same persona so that you understand it, you recognize them.
If you go to a medium and they can't crossover,
like my friends Jus Engeeseman you know when she gives
examples about that, and she helped me. She has one
of my teachers to teach about evidential mediumship that you
know that it is from spirit, because only spirit would
know certain things. And that's the stuff that they and
their frequency is able to put into our brains that
we can actually observe it and then speak it or
say certain things. You know, I learned that learning mediumship myself. However,
my own experience in this lifetime, I think I shared
with you one time with your audience about when my
brother passed in twenty nineteen and now it came to me.
And then it was just about a year and a
half ago that he came to me again when I
was in a restaurant to give a beautiful gift to
one of his best friends. And it was five years
later and he was talking to his friends. His friend
was thinking about my brother two or three days before,
and it was still upsetting him that they couldn't have
made amends. But my brother came to me and around
the whole situation in the restaurant, and I seen him
go over to this gentleman and give him a big hug,
and it was a it was a closure. It was
a love frequency that I was able to give that gift.
But my brother gave that gift to his best friend.
You know that they're still here, they're still watching, they're
still around us giving us help. But we have to
believe it. We have to know it, you know, intentionwise,
I want to communicate with my brother, Okay, come today whatever,
and they can if you wanted to put it that way.
But you've got to be open to looking for the signs.
And a lot of people aren't they Oh, that's ridiculous,
that's just that's not me, that's just my imagination. Well
guess what, it's not your imagination. That's how it works.
In in fact, somebody was asking me that yesterday and
I gave that same the same thing. It came through.
It's like, no, you go with the first thought that
you come because that is the connection with the vibration,
and that's what is usually the truth. And a lot
of times when you try to second guessed it, you know,
that's our analytical mind, right, that's where we're trying to
go back to human and spirit isn't human. No, no, no,
that's what But we came here to learn these things and.
Speaker 2: Boy, there's because it evolve.
Speaker 3: Here's where people kind of could get a little off,
but I'll say, I'll ask this. So there are those
like doctor Deep who studies iravatic medicine and does a
lot of the knotty water with the knotty rod and
the energy and the changing in the water. And they've
done experiments here and then MIT and things where you
can actually see the frozen water after it's charged. The
pattern is not chaotic, it's very it's almost like I
think a lotus flower.
Speaker 4: It looks like, well, what what I have suggested before
is have in the in the audience, go and watch
the One Field and it's and it shows all of that.
It shows the water, it shows how just thought with
this placebo pill, you know, if you think it's gonna
help it will help. And also communication with a heart
coherence across the world, all right, and then how it changes.
And they scientifically proven and shown it and it's been
out for quite a while. It's called the One Field.
And I can give you that link. You can put
it in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Yeah, that'd be great. I would
love to put that up on the website.
Speaker 4: So there's there's a lot of evidence out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when we talk about so let's say.
Speaker 4: Well we all experience it, and a lot of times
we experienced it, but we don't want to admit that
we experience it, right, and so then we can't use
it when it happens, or.
Speaker 2: I think we are using it.
Speaker 3: I think we are using it when we talk about
like past lives means that there could be a future life, right,
you could choose to come back, and but how to
then Let's say, for example, your brother chooses to come back,
but it's only like a doctor deep will tell you
this is two percent of what you are and a
spirit is all spirit. And then so if your brother
went into a new body, could you still call on
that energy?
Speaker 4: I think I know where you're gonna at.
Speaker 3: Do you understand I'm saying like it's two different things? Well,
how can I call him if he came back and
the past lives?
Speaker 2: That's my question?
Speaker 4: First of all, the energy of a soul never dies,
and it's everywhere all the time, So you can be
in another body and also still with your loved ones
in spirit the whole time they are alive, because that's
a contract you the love connection all right with the soul.
So you can very much so, and a lot of
times you feel things in people that you know them,
And how can that be because that person is still alive?
How can that be? It is because you can be
in different bodies at the same time. It's the soul,
and the soul has the capacity to do that.
Speaker 2: That's the stuff that people go all right about.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know what.
Speaker 3: I asked that because I think and I've only had
too many similar uh, too much similar information come from
different sources about that.
Speaker 4: Well, well, you know, cryon Lee Carroll uh talked about
also animals coming back. Uh, you can have an animal
that comes back in the same type of breed, but
you can have an animal with totally different breed, but
it has the same personality as your old animal, all right,
and then also switching uh soul's type of thing or
personalities of the dog, that type of stuff. There's a
lot of evidence about that too. A lot of people
I don't believe that. Well, that's part of the energy
medicine that's out there that has been proven, but it
hasn't been allowed to come out. Now it's being allowed
to come out, things are going to be wonderful going forward,
but we have to go through this hard time first,
and that's where we all are. We're all in that
limbo stock and how do we deal with this? How
do we deal with this? It's one day at a time. Yeah, yeah,
it's simple, right, keep it simple, and to go with
inside and believe and even if you don't believe, like
an AA, you know when they say, when you have
a resentment towards somebody, pray for them for ten two weeks,
you know, everything that you want for yourself, even that's
all right, You pray for them, and then within two
weeks your feelings have changed. But also they've changed. And
because it's in the field, if you're on the same
spiritual wavelength, you know, a lot of people are fearful
of changing. They're very fearful of changing in this spirit walm,
you know, because they don't know how to survive, and
that is the lower frequency. And until they start to
have the experiences, then they actually start to understand it.
And it's part of them hitting their bottom. Yeah, or
it's time. I can't go anyplace else, you know. And
the money situation that we all have, it's the same thing,
you know, everything going up and everything, how are we
going to survive or whatever? It's like it's only money,
it is energy and energy.
Speaker 3: I've often thought that too, and I would say, you know,
it's currency, which current electricity in and out, in and out.
But there is this thing where there's you look at
it and go, there's not enough, and so you start
to panic. Yes, and that's a very real feeling and
it's a very real concern. But you say, stuck there.
And that's the stuff that I think.
Speaker 4: Like, that's where energy medicine comes in.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think like a lot of people can
be spiritual to a point. Do you understand what I'm saying, Well,
here's why. What I'm saying is like I can be spiritual.
I can believe that, you know, go forth and tell
no one I'm going to focus on this.
Speaker 2: I can go inside myself. I can do that. But
the money's not in my bank account.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. The money's not in
my bank account. And therefore I abandon everything that is
over here spirituality wise and in my thinking and going
inside and getting to a higher frequency and doing all that,
and I bring myself to a lower frequency and I
panic about it, and I worry about it because that's real,
that's real. I can see that that's a real number,
and that's not the number I need, and blah blah,
blah blah, and we abandon everything. So there do you do?
You am I making sense? I don't know if I'm
make sense right, But it's like, I, yes, I believe
all this stuff, but then do I Because I'm sitting
over here looking at my bank account, I'm having a
panic attack.
Speaker 4: We're all doing it, yeah, we're all doing it right, And.
Speaker 3: I think those are the things that where if you
can take this stuff and do real application of it,
you've got to go inside. You've got to settle down,
you've got to listen and follow that inspiration.
Speaker 2: And I will tell you, as someone who has been
there for what feels.
Speaker 3: Like far too long, you know, I had a a
what we say, a career shift or whatever, and you
went from making a lot of money to not making
the same amount of money. But your life was based
on this over here, and it wasn't like you could
really change anything. I mean, just boom. So you've been
trying to then play catch up, and you're ignoring things
and you're doing that, and there's this, And I do
think sometimes if you just relax, you sort of listen,
you tune in, you don't panic, and you follow the intuition,
everything will come to you. It's all there for you.
All the money you want is is like an escrow already.
You just have to get on the same vibration of it.
And it sounds freaking nutty when you say that to people,
because I'm going, Okay, that sounds fucking great, but look
at my bank account.
Speaker 4: No, I know, all right, So that.
Speaker 2: Is and that's like the real world out.
Speaker 4: So there we go with the programming, the belief and
the behaviors. Again, it limits you from going forward. That's
what's being stuck is. That's why I talk about recovery.
It's not just alcoholism or addiction, right, It's about whatever
is not working for you, that doesn't bring you joy,
that doesn't make you feel happy inside. You have to
take a look at it, but you have to do
something about it. In recovery. I love the twelve step
programs when I started forty years ago because I was
able to see it in action. You have a homeless
person talking with a CEO and then you have a
if you have a doctor talking to a baker. All right,
when you go back into the books of AA, is
that the way they get through and the spiritual part
is through the heart.
Speaker 2: And the exactly.
Speaker 4: And that's what unity field healing is that's here now,
is that it's the unity of the coherence field in
the quantum energy that's here. It is within your field
right here in this room with all these electronics stuff.
And about when you sleep. You talked about that about
if you don't get the right sleep and all the
stuff that is being emanating or emitting out in the
field when you're sleeping because there's not as much energy
going through as it would be in the day, so
it's actually bombarding your energy field within your house and stuff.
But it's about you switching, you changing finally, that's what Okay,
all right, I'm going to do that. But it takes work.
It's about taking action.
Speaker 3: But this is the thing that I think people need
evidence base evidence.
Speaker 4: So look at your life. What I always say, look
at your life five years ago when COVID happened. Look
how we were so fearful, all the drama, everything that
we were told. They told us to wear the mask.
They told us I can't breathe without the mask. They
told us to take the shot. We wouldn't get the
we wouldn't get COVID. We got COVID. Anyway, all the
things that was we didn't know. We thought we were
doing right, but things come out that what was hidden
that wasn't right right. And also with that shot for me,
you know, I had reservations about it too, but I
chose to take the shot after I had COVID. By
the way, it was because I told my cells that
it wasn't going to hurt I actually went inside and
talked to myselves. Listen, you know, I'm the main guy here.
I'm going to tell you what to do. You're going
to go in and do what you need to do
to help me, not to hurt me. And that's where
you change your thought process. You change the energy field
of what you're thinking. And yes, it does seem very simple,
but it's that's the energy that's here now, that is
available if you choose. And the coincidences, you know, they're
not coincidence, They're exactly what it's supposed to be. It's
all about our choice, you know. And and of course
you know the baker and the CEO, you know, the
homeless person and the doctor the same thing. It could
be either or it's one heart talking to another, okay,
and the belief is that, Okay, I have to do different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I've been programmed and I believe this. However, maybe my
belief is changed. Just like with me, even though I
don't practice in the Catholic faith anymore, I still have
the faith that I got had from Jesus and Mother
Mary and Mary Magdalene. And whenever I see a picture
of an angel, and that's why I'm always the angel person.
I feel that love inside. I go back to that,
you know. And it doesn't have to be you know,
you have to do this for it to happen. No,
it's an inside job. Whatever, we'll get through to you,
right And that's why they always say, look to the gratitude,
righte A thankfulness every single day, a gratitude loosen things
that you're thankful for each and every day. It's the
positive things that goes out there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You got to do it because we do it over
and over and we just get fed up with it
and we say, enough of this crap, I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: You know, but also I'm famous for putting it all
in a dumbstir all are.
Speaker 4: Yesterday I had to go with the okay, come on back,
you know, we have to do it time. And it's
funny because when you do it in the car and
your driver or whatever, and then you pull over and say, okay, okay,
are you okay? So I just little time here right now?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, I think self awareness is a big part of this, right,
being self aware, and that's what we call it in
our world's Oh he's very self aware of that.
Speaker 2: Well, well, he's in tune.
Speaker 4: People might say, also, you're being very selfish. They use
that word.
Speaker 2: I think you have to.
Speaker 4: In integrated energy therapy, we have a thing that's called
spiritual selfishness, okay, and where you are practicing coming from
your heart and putting out the compassion. All right, you're
purposely focusing on yourself things that you need to change
about yourself. You have in spiritual compassion for yourself, and
then you can actually emanate it out for somebody else
when it happens to somebody else and you're right in
the middle of that field. But you have to build it.
Same with building your higher consciousness. How do you connect
with it years ago? Yogi sit and meditate for an
hours at a time. You don't need to do that
anymore because we've evolved. So keep it very simple. You know,
when it happens, laugh at yourself and say, Okay, I
know what's going to get better. It's happened many, many times.
And think of what I've always remember one of my
grand sponsors, Ruby Luback in AA, she always says, think
of the last before the first and go to a meeting.
Think of the last how you felt before you finally
let go and let god you did something about your alcoholism. Yeah,
all right, because that's going to keep you in the
gratitude of keeping going forward, right, And that's anything in
your life, especially this energy that we're in.
Speaker 2: Now a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when you can see it as
it's a momentum, that and you want to keep it
as a positive momentum, and you can equate it to
very easily to a diet, Right, Well, where will I
stick to the diet when I start seeing the results
and I start seeing the stuff and I start feeling better.
And then once you start feeling better, there all of
a sudden, everything else starts to be going good. That
is what we're talking about, the depression.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yes, it's because it's repetition, ye behaviors,
you know, programming, you know, to be to get something
that it's a habit. You know, it's not something that
you're going to be striving for. You do it automatically,
you know, just like when you choose which food to eat.
You know, even though you want to have the comfort
food and just manga manja type things.
Speaker 2: Fill it up.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, nah, I feel so much better,
you know when I don't eat it and I don't
have the gurd at night, yeah, or when I get
up in the morning, I don't have the guilt because
of what I did the night before.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's that happened with me thirty two years ago when
I stopped drinking. You know, it's like and I didn't
drink that much, but I had all the all the feelings, yeah,
the feelings of it. Like people's say, I can't believe
that you were an alcoholic. You don't look like an alcoholic,
And I say, well, I don't know what alcoholic looks like,
but I know what it feels like. It's about feelings
and why emotional drinking, you know, and why I was
upset eating myself up, you know, and this releaves the stress.
So there's a lot of ways you can look at it.
And that's because it's I've gone through it. That's how
it works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And people can go to Shila tillic dot com
and see all your different things, right, all of.
Speaker 4: It for everything, and it's not just one thing or
it's all of it together. Yes, because once you get
into the field, your spirit knows how to heal yourself.
I'm just a conduiteah, you know, and I am so
grateful for all the people to help me. So whether
it's the classes, whether it's my recovery work, you know,
whether it's the heart math to understand to bring the
focus back to myself, just be quiet, settle in and
go with inside and ask for help because you have
tons of helpers out there and there's people like me
that help you too.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, Yes, that is true. We will close out.
There's always I always love these I really do.
Speaker 3: I think what did we say we would do once
a month? Okay, so I'm thinking next month, look around
the July twelfth if you have time. If you can't,
oh yeah, yeah, just to see because I think I'm
going to have my my mom come up and I
would have.
Speaker 4: Her remember I class the classes is that.
Speaker 3: Is that when your classes are the twelve okay, I
don't want to.
Speaker 4: It builds upon your frequency. So when I do classes,
Integrated energy therapy is about recalibrating your frequency field in
your DNA to be able to pick up on the
spiritualness that you have inside, okay, right, And each level
builds a bigger level. It's not like reiki we have
to practice in between, because this is about your own
DNA recalibration or older terms is a tument, right, and
your body knows what needs to be healed. And by
doing them three in a row, you can start practicing
and doing this on yourself right now. And that's what
that's what you feel. That's what I like about my class.
That the very hands on and so that you can
feel the energy change in yourself and then you can
go and help other people.
Speaker 2: I think all that is is great. So I don't know,
would you not have time to do this an hour
on the twelfth.
Speaker 4: It would have to be first thing in the morning.
Because my classes started at nine thirty. Oh wow, can
get up at by thirty six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do from time to time.
Speaker 4: Today I didn't, But I mean, if we set it up,
I can set that up.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll look it into that. We always a pleasure.
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