Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, December second, twenty twenty five. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Giant BombCast. I am your host, jan Oh
Speaker 1: cho adjoining me as always co captain of the ship.
Speaker 1: That's right, he's ready to scan every single thing, but
Speaker 1: he's only ready to scan it in the vicinity of
Speaker 1: a Walmart. Jeff Crubb that's.
Speaker 2: Right, because I can't play it at home yet. But
Speaker 2: I gotta say, and I mean it's in a positive way.
Speaker 2: Sandman seems like a wrestler who should definitely be dead
Speaker 2: right by now?
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, I mean mostly you see, the ravens should.
Speaker 2: Be yeah, yeah, even alone on him dead you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can take the average events of all their lives
Speaker 2: and like put it into an algorithm like equals dead.
Speaker 1: I can already feel someone emailing the saddest quiz in
Speaker 1: the world of this wrestler dead or not, and I
Speaker 1: will and be sad.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I forgot Hogan was dead.
Speaker 3: I did forget Hogan was dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that gives you a little bit of joy
Speaker 1: remembering that he is dead. Yeah, I guess sucked our
Speaker 1: own raven of the podcast. That's right, he's hanging from
Speaker 1: the rafters. He's got flannels tied around his waist, He's
Speaker 1: sticking his arms out as a t pose.
Speaker 4: Definitely, I am the raven of the group for sure.
Speaker 4: It goes without saying. I've got a lot to talk
Speaker 4: about up at the top here, mostly Aaron grievances. But
Speaker 4: we can introduce the rest of the program.
Speaker 2: Wait, Mike, you're Billy Kidman.
Speaker 4: Billy Kidman. Oh I remember? Okay, that's coming back to
Speaker 4: me a little bit, Jane.
Speaker 3: I'll let you pick whoever I am from UCW. I
Speaker 3: would offer I'm probably the blue meanie you blue Media,
Speaker 3: I feel like you.
Speaker 1: No, not Stevie Richards.
Speaker 3: I really if Grub is Sandman Backler's raven, I'm not
Speaker 3: Tommy Dreamer, He's no blame.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was thinking Tommy Dreamer, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't fit.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think Richard naughty Manati is Mikey whipwreck?
Speaker 4: Sure, okay like that? For some reason? Why is this
Speaker 4: so easy?
Speaker 1: Who else is? Who else is in?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you do you just want to be Bubba? No?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be Bubba Ray No that and
Speaker 3: then we'll know I do want to You're.
Speaker 1: Okay? All right there we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're you're Jerry Lynn Jan smoke.
Speaker 4: No, that's the just thing anyone's ever said to me today.
Speaker 4: My brother's AOL screen name had the letters r v
Speaker 4: D in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah, have the numbers four twenty in it.
Speaker 1: No comment, no rv.
Speaker 2: D, vegeta for twenty.
Speaker 4: That's a real screen name, right there, Camil case Xes
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: The sa oh no, no you're not.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be, brother, I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to Yeah is grub Shane Douglas take that back
Speaker 3: was as lame as fuck.
Speaker 1: Uh and last, but certainly not at least rounding out
Speaker 1: the cast today, Uh, mister five stars himself, mister Monday
Speaker 1: Night Dan, Right, Kurt, we'll just go into rb FS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. Yes,
Speaker 1: how's it going, Jerry? Uh fantastic. I'm never going to retire.
Speaker 1: The bad boy of games media is off somewhere in
Speaker 1: the Rainforest Cafe. We wish him the best. He's out
Speaker 1: an assignment. You'll know, ever, guess where he is.
Speaker 2: It these days?
Speaker 1: I feel like Minatti when he's upset. He spaghetti is taz.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that. That's good. That man threatened
Speaker 1: to kiss me while we were in Jersey together.
Speaker 3: I mean he did put me in a choke hold
Speaker 3: while in a Grimace suit.
Speaker 1: Did we make a mistake? Well with what yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, with you know, I talk lawyer company.
Speaker 1: What I can do? Yeah, yeah, I mean he's already
Speaker 1: crossed how many HR thresholds he threatened and physically assaulted you.
Speaker 3: It's the only time I've been physically assaulted by someone
Speaker 3: A giant bomb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was involved in my kidnapping person.
Speaker 3: There's no way to prove that.
Speaker 1: H There's no way to prove that.
Speaker 2: I think so though, folks.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the Giant BombCast. The site
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Speaker 4: I don't know Black Friday right, that's that's back cyber Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Every time I hear BFCM read BFCM, I think it's
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Speaker 1: Go go buy yourself a face plate. You know. Don't
Speaker 1: buy Mike's though, go buy everyone else's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, buy one you would use.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one that worships the devil and pinball or as.
Speaker 3: The macho man on it or you know, wrestler person. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had to be cynical, but when Mike was having
Speaker 2: his health scares with his dogs. Do you think he
Speaker 2: was trying to juice his his sales because pennies on
Speaker 2: the face plate of his computer. He's like, oh, if
Speaker 2: everyone thinks she's sick, I can like because we got
Speaker 2: better miraculously, like a half an day later.
Speaker 4: Same day. As much as I would love to believe
Speaker 4: that Mike is as sadistic as your scenario portrays him.
Speaker 2: To me, machiavellian is how I would.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that would be a wild swing from a
Speaker 4: man and not well.
Speaker 1: I mean you can see proudly displayed behind him in
Speaker 1: all of his shots, is like forty eight laws of
Speaker 1: power or rules of power or whatever. That Yeah, the
Speaker 1: sun Zoo, it's the other one that's.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's on that whole manosphere, manosphere, blog circuit or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it's called. He's that type. Yeah, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: Taz would do. You know, that's true. Other bit of
Speaker 1: housekeeping gang, we thought we'd peel back the curtain, give
Speaker 1: y'all a peek behind the scenes and let y'all know
Speaker 1: that uh majority of the gang will not be going
Speaker 1: over to Los Angeles for the Game Awards. We will
Speaker 1: still be having a talk over remotely over the Game
Speaker 1: Awards show itself. I will be heading boots to the ground,
Speaker 1: be there in person. So many friends at the website
Speaker 1: or people in the industry that want to hang chill
Speaker 1: say what's up secretly split a buzz ball. I got you.
Speaker 1: But we will be heading back to Main Gear to
Speaker 1: hoard our Game of Year podcast. Those should be fingers
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Speaker 1: so you'll get yourself a little Crimis gift of Game
Speaker 1: of the Year from Giant bomb us over here and
Speaker 1: the whole gang will be headed to the Main Gear. So
Speaker 1: that is these four hooligans here, myself, Grub Jurff, Dan, Mike,
Speaker 1: Benaughty will also be there, Chuck will be there, and
Speaker 1: Turbo Shawn Sean McDowell will be there. We'll get the
Speaker 1: whole gang, the whole band back together.
Speaker 3: Where crimes were committed last time.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: I don't even know which one you're referring to. I
Speaker 4: can pluralize that I should have noticed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: It took I'm still thinking, and I don't know which
Speaker 1: crimes you're specifically mentioned to be. Anything else that was
Speaker 1: accurate to say, mister backlaar, you mentioned you had some
Speaker 1: grievances to air.
Speaker 4: How do I follow a cavalcade of important announcements with
Speaker 4: my bullshit?
Speaker 1: That's what we do on the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, folks, if you bought a candle called eighties rock,
Speaker 4: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Real quick? I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, that's a weird thing to do.
Speaker 1: Regardless of how I came to own sandal would.
Speaker 4: Okay, fair, it's a loveless fragrance. I okay, I know
Speaker 4: no one would ever do. You're all so fucking cool.
Speaker 4: I get it, chat, You're amazing. You would never do
Speaker 4: something like come to a choir an eighties candle. It's
Speaker 4: an eighties rock and I'm like, it found its way
Speaker 4: into my office. So I was like, all right, I'll
Speaker 4: light this yesterday, and I lit it, and I cannot
Speaker 4: even begin to describe to you, cherry Pie, that's more
Speaker 4: right with the hair spray, like.
Speaker 2: Like the obvious one that is like actual hairspray.
Speaker 3: That's what you think of with eighties rock?
Speaker 4: Okay, but is that a thing you want to smell
Speaker 4: in a candle?
Speaker 3: Err booger flavored jelly bellies just because they make something
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean its supposed to be good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but my point my point, But my point guys
Speaker 5: is that like they make other really good sense that
Speaker 5: you want your house to smell like, well, then buy.
Speaker 3: One that says strawberry and that when it says eighties rock,
Speaker 3: I just like it should have smelled like cocaine.
Speaker 4: Or something more than ha. Well, I guess yeah, I
Speaker 4: just I couldn't understand, like, really, you're gonna like hair
Speaker 4: spray is the thing that you're like, oh, open a window.
Speaker 4: You're never like, oh fill that with filled my lungs
Speaker 4: with that?
Speaker 3: What were you thinking it was going to smell like?
Speaker 4: I was between expectations, but I was more interested in
Speaker 4: what it was going to be because I was like,
Speaker 4: maybe the it does somehow remind me of like Twisted
Speaker 4: Sister and those types without actual you know.
Speaker 3: You want tonder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's fine. I'd rather smell like that
Speaker 4: whatever that is. Maybe it's just like Long Island Musk.
Speaker 2: Drop the Rock. What would what would the eighties smell like?
Speaker 2: It would smell like, it would smell like cocaine and
Speaker 2: voting for Ronald Reagan?
Speaker 4: Right, malls, maybe malls the inside of a mall like
Speaker 4: a Ghostbuster's Action figure. No Nickelodeon gack smell like nineties
Speaker 4: gak book. Okay, so that could be the nineties candle. Fine,
Speaker 4: but the nineties candle actually smells them. Okay, here's the thing. Now,
Speaker 4: I'll book end it with the other thing. The ninety
Speaker 4: is there there. They make another kindle called Nineties Mixtape,
Speaker 4: and that ship smells amazing. It's you want to put
Speaker 4: it all over your body.
Speaker 3: It's why why are you buyd what do you do?
Speaker 4: You would say, like candles? She buys candles. She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: try this. It's all it's harmless. It's it's victimless crimes. Here.
Speaker 1: I like a good candle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, candles, candles rule. This one's called this one's called
Speaker 4: black Sharpie, and it smells like.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, when Ylan locking in that closet, it
Speaker 3: was just candles and crystals.
Speaker 1: I was just covered.
Speaker 2: A video game sent me a candle for their game.
Speaker 2: It was that total Chaos game and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: so I didn't light it, but it definitely smelled like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like something a video game would send me.
Speaker 4: The war Frame. Candles smell good, smelled are those are great?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like the scenter wasn't named warframe it right,
Speaker 3: but sandal wood or something.
Speaker 2: Well, no, it was war.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like a sub yeah, like universe.
Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Ten scent. This is also like, you know, this isn't
Speaker 4: like a novelty candle place. It's not like jokes on you.
Speaker 4: This one's farts. You know.
Speaker 2: In some ways every candle place is a novelty candle place.
Speaker 2: They all start getting into bullshit since really fast.
Speaker 4: But I like the goods. I like like teak wood, mahogany,
Speaker 4: and that's one they made and it's amazing quick owners meeting.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's kind of a failure on his part that
Speaker 2: we haven't had a giant bomb candle at this point, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, we should do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta like develop a scent. That's like
Speaker 4: I bet they have off the shelf once you could
Speaker 4: slap a.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the Nathan for you where they have
Speaker 3: the poop flavored yogurt and he goes to the place
Speaker 3: where they just make the like poop essence and you
Speaker 3: can just into whatever, Like we just got to go
Speaker 3: to that place and put.
Speaker 4: It in candles. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But here's where I'm gonna be a little bit uppity.
Speaker 1: If we sell a giant bomb candle. I wanted to
Speaker 1: smell noise, you know, I want? I want. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a joke. Yeah, also do it. I would
Speaker 1: love a wood wick. Y'all ever light a woodwick candle.
Speaker 4: Woodwicks are nice, but they but I think they then
Speaker 4: Jan he's sound like a candle connoisseur, like minded individually
Speaker 4: myself here, Bud. The problem with wood wicks is that
Speaker 4: they crackled sometimes and it could be a fire has
Speaker 4: and I don't and I don't like. You don't like
Speaker 4: the you hear crack and sometimes they like scares me,
Speaker 4: like I'll have one burning next to me. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck was that? Like some campfire thing. I
Speaker 4: think we should offer both. I think we should offer both.
Speaker 1: Okay, a single wick person or a tri wik person?
Speaker 4: What about the duo wick?
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? I normally skip that option. I go free.
Speaker 4: I'm a solo wick boy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's that's how I uh, that's how I roll.
Speaker 1: Folks look forward to the feature where back Laura and
Speaker 1: I learned to make candles and Dan develops the sense.
Speaker 3: I tried last time I tried to light a candle. Jan,
Speaker 3: I'm sending you photos in the discord right now.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: It was for Bank's birthday and I got a little
Speaker 3: cake thing, and you have pictures now, Jan, do what
Speaker 3: you will with those. Where is this and it's in
Speaker 3: the general and discord. And I tried to time it
Speaker 3: when she was getting off work. We lived in New York,
Speaker 3: and I was trying to time it from when she
Speaker 3: got back from the subway. So I lit like thirty
Speaker 3: something candles or whatever on this little cake, and I
Speaker 3: timed it really poorly, so by the time she got home,
Speaker 3: all of the candles had completely melted and the entire
Speaker 3: cake was covered in wax.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 1: Getting the photos. I don't mess with fire.
Speaker 2: You got it, Jan, because I could bring it up
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I got it. I got it.
Speaker 4: So you you like, after a certain period of time
Speaker 4: you were on like, I should just blow these out
Speaker 4: and then maybe light them again.
Speaker 3: I guess I didn't consider that you can relight them.
Speaker 3: I've never done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could do that, like you just them Okay.
Speaker 3: I never did know they were want to multiple time
Speaker 3: use Yeah, okay, no, I don't say that. Wait, don't
Speaker 3: say it makes me. It makes sense now that I
Speaker 3: think about it. I just never considered it prior.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't say out loud on the internet. I didn't
Speaker 4: know you could relat a candle.
Speaker 1: Don't say that.
Speaker 2: You can't ever tell anyone that. Dan all right, I
Speaker 2: won't tell me.
Speaker 1: You can't cut us out? Yeah all right?
Speaker 4: Candle burning candles inside your house?
Speaker 2: I guess you know it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: you like glanced at a headline once or like that's
Speaker 2: not healthy, and I'm like, yeah, it's probably not, and
Speaker 2: I don't like candles all that much, so I just won't.
Speaker 4: I won't do that.
Speaker 2: But you guys seem to be really into candles. Can
Speaker 2: you think it's worth it? Yeah? Nice when I go
Speaker 2: in people's houses that.
Speaker 1: In the seasons. If you're worried about candle burning, you
Speaker 1: can get yourself a candle warmer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's the news tech, right, or probably like
Speaker 2: fifteen years old at.
Speaker 1: This point, but yeah, when lamps, yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: little heat lamp and you'll still get the smell of
Speaker 1: the wax melting, right, still melting and everything, but you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about actual live fire.
Speaker 2: I probably just need like a window open, is what
Speaker 2: people are saying.
Speaker 4: That makes sense, right, Candles are so when Chad is
Speaker 4: saying candles are bed for for pets, what are we
Speaker 4: what are we talking? What are the implications I need
Speaker 4: to know? Inquiring minds.
Speaker 1: Additionally, I had a friend that used to light a
Speaker 1: candle in his car in the evening. Oh, that's the
Speaker 1: smell out.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's just fancy. Like, yeah, I'm sure it
Speaker 2: was like a Rolls Royce, right, and it was like
Speaker 2: meant to have a candle holder and stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what to corolla.
Speaker 3: Okay, stink bomb off in my mom's car when I
Speaker 3: was in junior high and it's just like it gets
Speaker 3: up in the stuff and the seats and everything, and
Speaker 3: then it's your car that smells like firts for weeks.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah you had have you had you used
Speaker 2: a stink bomb before this?
Speaker 3: This was your first insult. I'm insulted by that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah that I just wanted to like establish the fact
Speaker 3: I bought and used in my life. Yeah, I'm prosecuting
Speaker 3: you now, I want to. I wanted to establish the
Speaker 3: facts the moment I realized there was a little glass
Speaker 3: vial you could buy at the stupid shop S T
Speaker 3: O O P I D and late that Kansas and
Speaker 3: then you just like crush it under your foot and
Speaker 3: then suddenly an entire building can smell like farts. I
Speaker 3: was obsessed with them that ship. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was what you saying.
Speaker 2: You knew the effects going into this. You had to, like,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe you didn't think about consequences when you
Speaker 2: were like, oh.
Speaker 3: And stuff, But like, I don't know if just the
Speaker 3: ventilation stuff made it not smell as long. So I
Speaker 3: figured out my mom's car, and it's gonna be stinky
Speaker 3: for a day and then it's done.
Speaker 2: All the stick bombs I've encountered are so futuriate and
Speaker 2: so strong. The idea of setting off's car feels like an.
Speaker 4: Actual crime, like a crime, like a war crime.
Speaker 1: What season of the year did you do this, Dan,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I don't know it was in summer.
Speaker 1: I was going to say if it was winter, then
Speaker 1: you couldn't drive with the windows down because it'd be
Speaker 1: too cold.
Speaker 6: Oh that air out, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got one
Speaker 6: more grievance, please griev Hell yeah, I I I posted
Speaker 6: last night because it was I was.
Speaker 4: It stayed with me in a way that I just
Speaker 4: like did. I was sort of stun locked, like a
Speaker 4: thing happened to me over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was. I was at a place. I was like
Speaker 4: at a candy store and it was empty and presumably
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the owner wherever. It
Speaker 4: was seemingly nice lady it was you know, cold at
Speaker 4: the shore. Was down at the shore. She commented on
Speaker 4: my Hat's like, oh you got a really nice hut
Speaker 4: or it was like yeah. I was like, oh this,
Speaker 4: thank you, it's nice.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 4: We gotta protect our heads, especially with all that Wi
Speaker 4: Fi out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 4: I kind of like didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't go to Kansas often, do you?
Speaker 4: No, I've only been to Kansas once and that was
Speaker 4: like twenty years ago. They didn't have four chance Yeah
Speaker 4: yeah or Wi Fi, like I genuine you know, and
Speaker 4: I my first thing was like a hysterical laugh out
Speaker 4: loud because I'm like, oh this she's just joshing like
Speaker 4: we're just having fun here to adults who presumably like
Speaker 4: paid attention growing up a little bit. And then she's like,
Speaker 4: I'm serious. She like stopped me laughing and said, no,
Speaker 4: I'm serious. Oh and I didn't you know, I guess
Speaker 4: I'm not really interested in like making fun of these
Speaker 4: people anymore because it's more sad than it is like
Speaker 4: an opportunity for comedy.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's not just like, oh, oh, this one
Speaker 3: lovable wacko over here. It's just like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: just wide swaths of people you run into.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's obviously in the minority. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: you know, no serious, but.
Speaker 2: This it permeates like through all. Like this is also
Speaker 2: not like a class thing. This isn't like, oh, some
Speaker 2: uneducated idiot thinks this because there are rich, famous, educated
Speaker 2: people who have all kinds of similar stuff.
Speaker 4: I remember like thinking it was really weird.
Speaker 2: And yes, man, when Jim Carrey was holding the cell phone,
Speaker 2: he would take his finger like this and put it
Speaker 2: on his head and hold the phone out here, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why does he hold the phone like that?
Speaker 2: And I kind of looked into it a little bit,
Speaker 2: and it's like, because he thinks the phone is going
Speaker 2: to give him a brain tumor.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait was that the character in yes Man?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the movie, or is that just Jim Carrey?
Speaker 3: It was the character and yes Man, but the yes
Speaker 3: Man had no reason to do it. Jim Carrey himself,
Speaker 3: the character didn't. Wasn't like he was car Yes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Jim Carrey holds it that way as well.
Speaker 4: I think that tracks a little bit with.
Speaker 3: We would hear that though, Like I mean, it was
Speaker 3: very common when I was growing up that people said
Speaker 3: that about like microwaves, So you don't stand near the
Speaker 3: microwave when it's doing his thing.
Speaker 1: Did you guys have that?
Speaker 4: Well, Michael waves have shielding in them, like right, but
Speaker 4: people are like the microwave and stuff. Well that was
Speaker 4: my point, you know. I sat there, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: do you think the fucking sun is? Like I didn't
Speaker 4: even like, I didn't even I wasn't trying to be condescending.
Speaker 4: I was just sort of saying like, oh, sweetie, you
Speaker 4: you know. I didn't call her a little dumb idiot.
Speaker 4: I was just like, hey, you know, if you think
Speaker 4: Wi Fi is problematic, like what do you think is
Speaker 4: coming out of that big old star in the middle
Speaker 4: of the solar system and like you do have to
Speaker 4: protect your head from that, Like yeah, And then I'm like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, does she think beanies protect heads from
Speaker 4: Wi Fi impenetrable?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just it's the type of knitting that happens at
Speaker 1: a beanie. That's why I'm always wearing mink rights.
Speaker 2: It's hex clad. Yeah, that's really x clan.
Speaker 4: I just don't know what to do anymore.
Speaker 1: I just don't like jets.
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to be condescending the Jeff Becklar story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no.
Speaker 1: Almost. No.
Speaker 4: First of all, I readily admit ninety percent of the time, Yes,
Speaker 4: that is what I'm deliberately trying to do. Everyone knows that,
Speaker 4: of course. Uh, But in this moment, it was more like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I felt like I would. I was
Speaker 4: like sort of like, you know, taking advantage of someone
Speaker 4: in a bad way, you know, I didn't want to.
Speaker 4: I just didn't want to do that. I don't know
Speaker 4: what to do anymore in these situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we tried shame for a while and that clearly
Speaker 2: just did not work. And it's like I don't have
Speaker 2: the energy in there to shame people anymore for this stuff.
Speaker 2: And it's like you know, and I'm wrong about enough
Speaker 2: things that it's like, oh well, okay, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna speak to everything. I know wi FI is not dangerous,
Speaker 2: but you know, can I explain it to this person satisfactorily?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: You know, I thought I was like, what am I
Speaker 4: gonna do? And I'm gonna be like, well, you understand,
Speaker 4: like it's the waves can't penetrate our DNA, like it's
Speaker 4: just not a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, similar, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say there's certain places I stay
Speaker 3: when I go back home to Kansas where I've heard
Speaker 3: before like, hey, you know, we got these new blockers
Speaker 3: plugged in. So if you say at our place, you
Speaker 3: know you're not going to your anxiety is just going
Speaker 3: to clear up. Oh I think I had anxiety before
Speaker 3: five G but okay, you know, and.
Speaker 4: Then a part of me it's more fascinating than and
Speaker 4: than anything else because it's like I can't believe we
Speaker 4: just allowed this to happen to people. We're just like,
Speaker 4: oh well, we're just okay with this now. You know,
Speaker 4: it used to be crazy, was just like organic, and
Speaker 4: now it's almost manufacturer manufactured, and they now, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: like we used to just let These people were just
Speaker 4: like the town criers in the plaza wh would stand
Speaker 4: on the charmed to it charm like they were Carnival.
Speaker 3: With Mel Gibson. You ever see that, ye right, yeah,
Speaker 3: the charming man.
Speaker 1: So much that guy.
Speaker 4: And then I got depressed, right because it's like, now
Speaker 4: there's like so many people.
Speaker 1: That reminds me of man I used to work with
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that I think when I was like
Speaker 1: at the tail end of me being like an assistant
Speaker 1: camera person. Like the wireless transmitters were like a becoming
Speaker 1: a big thing to just for like the director to
Speaker 1: see the image and everything. But this camera guy would
Speaker 1: refuse to put them on his camera because he thought
Speaker 1: also the signals from the camera would fuck up his brain.
Speaker 1: So he would insist that the director has like a
Speaker 1: hard wire straight to his camera. So the director would
Speaker 1: have to have two portable monitors, one for everyone else
Speaker 1: and then one just for him. This is also the
Speaker 1: same guy that we used to call Cowbone because when
Speaker 1: we were out in when we were out in the
Speaker 1: desert on a shoot once, we would take bathroom breaks
Speaker 1: very seriously, right, because sometimes you'd have to be out
Speaker 1: waiting for something to happened for a while and he
Speaker 1: we we called a bathroom break and he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm like, all right, do you do you
Speaker 1: want a pa to like run you anything? He was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. He gets back and we noticed there's a
Speaker 1: little bit he personally could have used an eighties metal
Speaker 1: themed candle around him because he smelled it a little ripe.
Speaker 1: And he started telling his stories like, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: need to go take a bathroom break, just took just
Speaker 1: took a ten two out there. And then one of
Speaker 1: my producers she was mortified, like what do you mean
Speaker 1: you took a ten two outside and you didn't use
Speaker 1: the bathroom? What did you use to wipe? And this
Speaker 1: this camera guy goes, well, there was a sun bleached
Speaker 1: cowbone over there.
Speaker 4: Just use that to wipe what.
Speaker 1: You can't do that?
Speaker 2: You can't do that, Oh Joe backguard doesn't know about
Speaker 2: the three seashells or the cowbone.
Speaker 3: I'm picturing the cows, Like, how do you wipe your
Speaker 3: ass the cowbone and things like it's like one of
Speaker 3: those ear wax candles where you put it in and
Speaker 3: it just kind of pulls it all out.
Speaker 1: No, Nope, you gotta put.
Speaker 4: It in there.
Speaker 1: So somewhere in the Mojave desert there, I mean it's
Speaker 1: probably done or get cleared off by over now yeah, yeah, bacteria.
Speaker 1: There was a less bleached sun bleached.
Speaker 2: It's important that it was sun bleached though, so you
Speaker 2: could see all the damage you.
Speaker 4: Did to it. For sure. I do you respect that?
Speaker 4: That's that sort of descriptor my man's got away with words.
Speaker 4: It's nice, it's it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's like there's a Goldilock zone, right cause there's the
Speaker 2: people who hear that there's something invisible that they can't see,
Speaker 2: and then that's the scariest thing imaginable five g wi fi.
Speaker 2: And then there's people who like can't see something so
Speaker 2: it's not real. It's like germs or whatever, or gravity.
Speaker 2: And it's like you kind of have to be in
Speaker 2: the sweet spot where it's like I mostly trust these
Speaker 2: things that I are congruent with the way I live
Speaker 2: my life. And also some of these things sound weird,
Speaker 2: but I trust that I don't know everything. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna I guess most of you just have to ignore
Speaker 2: things because if you start thinking about it too much,
Speaker 2: you almost neverbly either end up here or you have
Speaker 2: to become an actual expert, and no one has the
Speaker 2: energy to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's harder work to get yourself out
Speaker 4: of your place.
Speaker 2: Germans aren't visible to be.
Speaker 4: I don't believe in the German people, do you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, I think it's harder work. I
Speaker 4: think you have to, yeah, put up a harder defense
Speaker 4: because you right.
Speaker 1: Like because back it takes so much more effort to think.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But yeah, but there is thinking about but it's
Speaker 4: thinking about subversion. It's like, how do I block out
Speaker 4: the very like critically clear thing in front of me
Speaker 4: and then pivot into a way where like it fits
Speaker 4: with my sort of framework and my belief system. It's scary,
Speaker 4: it's really scary, And I guess it's moments like this
Speaker 4: where you're where you really are grounded and it's like
Speaker 4: a it's almost it's almost traumatic, you know, it's almost
Speaker 4: traumatic to have.
Speaker 2: The good news is is that we can probably exploit
Speaker 2: this fight or flight mechanism that people are feeling by
Speaker 2: pretty You've seen algorithms that keep them trapped in video
Speaker 2: content for hours at a time where they can sort
Speaker 2: of lose themselves to even deeper conspiracy theories. I think
Speaker 2: there's money to be made here.
Speaker 1: Guys. Hey, speaking about video content, we did release two
Speaker 1: vlogs over Thanksgiving break, all of us hanging out around
Speaker 1: in New York and then some leftovers. Dib pulls a
Speaker 1: very very fun joke on Dan that I suggest you
Speaker 1: check out masterful work. I feel like he he played
Speaker 1: that himself right there. There was no conspiracy happening with you, Baglar.
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, it's funny because I don't
Speaker 4: I didn't even know this really happened, or I don't
Speaker 4: remember it happened.
Speaker 3: I don't either remember.
Speaker 4: Well that's yeah, well that's weird it happened to you.
Speaker 4: But right I saw the clip and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh right, yeah, oh okay, so you remembered when you
Speaker 4: saw it. I wouldn't even really remember when I saw it,
Speaker 4: and you could see I'm in like the back of
Speaker 4: the room, so I was there. We Yeah, what a move?
Speaker 4: What a what a what a legend? Like that was?
Speaker 1: I don't really am act like fuck with someone. I
Speaker 1: don't really understand the joy in that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I think he learned it by watching you, Bud.
Speaker 4: It's one of those Hallmark Movies.
Speaker 1: Right there? Wow, Wow, Dan, what if you created your
Speaker 1: worst enemy? What if all the poking and prodding over
Speaker 1: the years is just hardened Dib and he's just gonna
Speaker 1: grow to be like your joker? Is he going to
Speaker 1: be better than me?
Speaker 2: You could, Dan, create a troll so large even he
Speaker 2: couldn't lift it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, considering all the forces I was playing
Speaker 3: with here, Jesus, at the rate he's on, he'll be
Speaker 3: better a better hockey player than me in about two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, Like the second he you know, puts on another
Speaker 4: twenty pounds and grows another couple like, he'll just be
Speaker 4: cooking me.
Speaker 3: So still, that's my trivia contest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I think the second Dib starts rocking a stash, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be game.
Speaker 4: That's gonna suck. Actually, more mustache.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a dirt back in the making.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn it, he's Dib dip bag. I don't know,
Speaker 1: don't start. We can't undo that all right, grievances we
Speaker 1: need to air.
Speaker 4: I think that's it for now. I'm sure before the
Speaker 4: end of the show another materialize.
Speaker 1: We'll get there. Yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 4: He watched it back to he was like, he's like
Speaker 4: a rule.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not like Manati there. Okay, No, what if?
Speaker 1: What if he's going to take all of the worst
Speaker 1: qualities from the five of us plus Sean and Chuck,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like a vultron of the good
Speaker 1: Internet and like all the parts of the good in Internet,
Speaker 1: but also some of the worst qualities of all of us.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a mustache, he's gonna gamble, don't worry.
Speaker 1: He won't smoke, but he'll force kids to watch Jaws,
Speaker 1: and then he won't shut up about hockey and pinball
Speaker 1: and wrestling. What if it's really it's wrestling that's bad Dan.
Speaker 1: What if he becomes in indie wrestler. What if we
Speaker 1: don't know bad idea? He shouldn't do that. What if
Speaker 1: he's really good at it?
Speaker 4: I don't see that being in the cards for him.
Speaker 3: No, even if you're good at it, it's a bad road,
Speaker 3: don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't really know anyone his age, any of his
Speaker 4: friends rather who are like all in on wrestling.
Speaker 1: It's just not weird because it is.
Speaker 3: I want to say it's doing well, but I think
Speaker 3: it's just doing well with like corporate partners.
Speaker 1: I don't really like everyone.
Speaker 3: I know that I used to talk to wrestling about
Speaker 3: and myself aren't really watching that much.
Speaker 2: Right, It's it's internationally very popular.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I'm not doubting its popularity. I just yeah
Speaker 4: that I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like Internet, I'm saying here, the youth don't
Speaker 2: care internationally, the youth.
Speaker 1: Care for those people are like superheroes. Yeah, yes, Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about a world beyond wrestling, and that world
Speaker 1: is Metroid Prime for Beyond. There is a written review
Speaker 1: by Dan Reikert on the website, the Old School website
Speaker 1: and the New School website. You can check it out there.
Speaker 1: We also had a Q and a little round table
Speaker 1: Sean cut together that is now up on YouTube, but
Speaker 1: you should pull that up. Let that play and mute
Speaker 1: while you were still listening to this podcast as we
Speaker 1: discuss Metroid Prime four Beyond.
Speaker 3: Dan, it's a play club game, right, Dan, This is
Speaker 3: garbage I heard if you talk to the British journalists, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how you're Okay, we're in. Andy Robinson gave it
Speaker 3: a three out of five. No, I love it I
Speaker 3: think it's fantastic. And again if you want to see
Speaker 3: the like at linth version written review on the site
Speaker 3: and then we have like like a half hour video
Speaker 3: review discussion. Basically we put on YouTube that should be
Speaker 3: up right now.
Speaker 1: I love it. I adore it.
Speaker 3: I've been put under the gun maybe actual gifts of
Speaker 3: people holding guns at me today to say whether or
Speaker 3: not it's better than Metroid Prime one.
Speaker 1: Or not, and I refuse. I refuse.
Speaker 3: I will. I will let it sink and say a
Speaker 3: little bit here because I think, you know, I think
Speaker 3: I said like, oh, here's the Kingdom's better in Breath
Speaker 3: the Wild when it first came out, and now I've
Speaker 3: kind of gone back on it, so I'm going to
Speaker 3: sit before say anything like that. I will say it
Speaker 3: is definitely up there with the first one. It is
Speaker 3: much much better than two and three. I think two
Speaker 3: and three, you know, kind of had their side steps
Speaker 3: and stuff, which you know, I don't need to go
Speaker 3: into all that, but like I this one is the
Speaker 3: most similar to the first one, but also made me
Speaker 3: think of Ocarina of Time a lot, which was a
Speaker 3: thing that surprised me, mainly in the way that the
Speaker 3: I don't want to say overall, because I feel like
Speaker 3: when you say that now.
Speaker 1: That evokes like a breath the wild, huge open world map.
Speaker 3: This is not that it's I equated to highrol Field
Speaker 3: and Ocarina or it's like it's a space that is
Speaker 3: largely empty, connecting major zones, and there are some things there,
Speaker 3: some puzzles, a few shrines even, but ultimately it is
Speaker 3: a place that you were just kind of instead of
Speaker 3: writing Epina around from this place to that place, you
Speaker 3: were riding Viola around your sweet motorcycle that Sam's has,
Speaker 3: and each of these areas in a fury green vault
Speaker 3: for ice Belt.
Speaker 1: There's a lava one.
Speaker 3: I forget the name of it right now, but yeah,
Speaker 3: they are basically giant dungeons like you know, ok arena
Speaker 3: style dungeons. Basically you're going around, you're getting an item,
Speaker 3: you're fighting a boss. But you do have that Metroid
Speaker 3: backtracking here. But I've played through the first Metrod Prime
Speaker 3: twice in recent years, both the original version and remastered
Speaker 3: in recent years, and I always kind of forget when
Speaker 3: you go back like the tail end of Metroid Prime.
Speaker 3: As much as I love that game and think it's
Speaker 3: one of the best. Ever, some of that backtracking is
Speaker 3: not the best. It's easy to get a little bit
Speaker 3: lost and turned around, and it's kind of a pain
Speaker 3: in the ass to kind of work your way back
Speaker 3: the teleporter, the elevators and all that stuff. This one,
Speaker 3: the backtracking is more interesting in that, like you know,
Speaker 3: when you're volt Forge is one of the early areas
Speaker 3: and if you've ever seen images of like lightning and
Speaker 3: towers and stuff like that, I think it's the most
Speaker 3: visually striking area in the game. You know, the first
Speaker 3: time you're going through it, it's kind of this kind
Speaker 3: of almost dark, kind of spooky, like you're just kind
Speaker 3: of going through this like powered down lightning tower with
Speaker 3: enemies and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's kind of awesome.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you work your way down, you
Speaker 3: power it up, and then like you will eventually have
Speaker 3: to go back later as you're cleaning stuff up, and
Speaker 3: it's like just teeming with light and electricity and activity
Speaker 3: and it's just like it it feels different. So even
Speaker 3: when you are backtracking in this one, I do think
Speaker 3: it's more interesting. The thing that people were really worried
Speaker 3: about with the Miles McKenzie. Miles McKenzie it's not a
Speaker 3: big deal.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 3: I saw people even today after all the reviews came out,
Speaker 3: being like, oh, it's like it's God, He's gonna be
Speaker 3: NonStop radio chatter.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: Most of what he says, and especially the annoying stuff
Speaker 3: is the stuff that Backlar saw in that preview event
Speaker 3: and that everyone freaked out about, you know, a month
Speaker 3: or whatever ago. Yeah, he's a late like it is
Speaker 3: jarring and that like you see this title card of
Speaker 3: Fury Green, this area this kind of like Backlar, I
Speaker 3: think you said it was like Pandora and music kicks
Speaker 3: in and it's just incredible and the sweet title card
Speaker 3: and everything. It's just like, you know, it's it's classic Metroid.
Speaker 3: And then you got the guy saying like oh boo yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know it's like it's it is jarring for sure,
Speaker 3: and he sucks. And I hate that type of character
Speaker 3: more than anyone. But that part happens in the first hour.
Speaker 3: He goes back to like a little base station and
Speaker 3: he's just the dude where it's like, oh, you got
Speaker 3: a fire chip in this dungeon, and he's the guy
Speaker 3: that calls He's like, oh, hey, I can I can
Speaker 3: put that in your arm can and I can help
Speaker 3: you with that, come back here, and then it just
Speaker 3: kind of shows you a little pip on the map
Speaker 3: and you go do it and you're done with him.
Speaker 3: It's not he's not calling in all the time like
Speaker 3: he's the campbell or something in metal gear. And most importantly,
Speaker 3: it is not handholding. It is not doing the thing
Speaker 3: where it's saying like, hey, go here, go there. I
Speaker 3: was really worried a Vaultforge because when you first get there,
Speaker 3: he does pull up the map and he's like, hey,
Speaker 3: check this out here. Maybe if you go down here,
Speaker 3: here's the happening and you go down this thing here.
Speaker 3: I'm like, if he fucking does this every time I
Speaker 3: enter a new area, I'm gonna hate And he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He does not. So question I have for you, Dan,
Speaker 1: and maybe y'all can speak to this more because I
Speaker 1: never really played Meroi the original Metroid Prime growing up,
Speaker 1: but I've seen Dan, You've mentioned the operin of time
Speaker 1: influence and the Halo influence I've seen online as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know, does any of that does it feel
Speaker 1: like it dilutes whatever strong Metroid presence there is supposed
Speaker 1: to be okay, now cool.
Speaker 3: The Halo comparisons, I think people are just talking about
Speaker 3: that first hour. It's the stuff that Jan you and
Speaker 3: I saw in New York. You know, Backler, you probably
Speaker 3: played through that kind of like Halo Call of Duty
Speaker 3: almost opening, right, did you play the open years back?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's very much like.
Speaker 3: It reminds me that first E three trailer of a
Speaker 3: gameplay thing of Halo two, that Battle of Mambasa or whatever,
Speaker 3: where it's just like screaming and aliens and cannons and
Speaker 3: everything's you know, ship's coming in and there's a fucking
Speaker 3: mech and all this stuff, and it's like, that does
Speaker 3: not feel like Metroid. But that's just the setup to
Speaker 3: the story. It's just that thing happens. You're going to
Speaker 3: get this artifact thing and then you get warped to
Speaker 3: v Roast, which is the new area and everything, and
Speaker 3: that does have some characters that talk and things like that,
Speaker 3: and I guess that's what people have freaked out about.
Speaker 3: But it's not like other m It's not like this
Speaker 3: is the narrative Metroid or anything.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 3: You do find like a crew member basically at each
Speaker 3: zone you go to, but it's basically you run into
Speaker 3: them and they're like, hey you Sam, it's okay, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's get it. Let's get out of here. And then
Speaker 3: they go back to the base station. And so you
Speaker 3: have like a ragtag group you're assembling throughout the game.
Speaker 3: But honestly, by the end, I liked them, and they
Speaker 3: don't get in the way of anything at all. They're
Speaker 3: just some Galactic Federation folks that you just kind of
Speaker 3: pick up along the way. There's a handful of them.
Speaker 1: It's not bad.
Speaker 2: They don't suddenly start like, oh, Miles McKenzie goes away,
Speaker 2: but now someone else is pointing you in the right direction.
Speaker 2: That sort of fades in the background.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I mean, there might be exceptions, but I think for
Speaker 3: the most part, Miles is the one who just kind
Speaker 3: of like calls you on your radio and you can
Speaker 3: call it when you go to the map. If you
Speaker 3: hit I think it's X, it's the radio button, and
Speaker 3: like anytime you're in a zone, it just straight up
Speaker 3: says like, hey, radio's disabled. You can't do it, so
Speaker 3: like you couldn't talk to them if you wanted to.
Speaker 3: It is basically just like if you are in the
Speaker 3: open world and you're just trying to figure out, like, man,
Speaker 3: where do I go? I just got this fire chip
Speaker 3: and my gun?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what can I do with this?
Speaker 3: Then you can call him and he might be like
Speaker 3: and he's kind of vague at times too. He'll be like, hey,
Speaker 3: you got a new thing. Maybe you should go back
Speaker 3: to some places you've been to before if you can
Speaker 3: do more stuff, you know, And then like you know,
Speaker 3: if you keep bugging him or you keep kind of
Speaker 3: idling around Soul Valley for a while, he might be like, hey,
Speaker 3: remember that fucking lava river over in the fireplace. Maybe
Speaker 3: you can go across that now, you know.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like another way of doing the question mark,
Speaker 2: like objective marker that would pop up after you spend
Speaker 2: enough time exploring a Metroid prime. They'd be like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've been going around. Now, hey we detected something, and
Speaker 2: this is just like vocalizing some of that. What percentage
Speaker 2: of the game is linear? My understanding is it's like
Speaker 2: a little bit linear early on and then opens up,
Speaker 2: Like at what point does it open up? How long
Speaker 2: were you playing? Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3: I was I was curious about that because like you
Speaker 3: need to get five mcguffin's basically these five teleporter keys,
Speaker 3: and by the time Soul Valley opens up like the desert,
Speaker 3: you've got two of them already. And then Miles does
Speaker 3: get on the radio and he's like, hey, there's three
Speaker 3: more keys. Go do them and whatever order you want.
Speaker 3: But I actually don't know if because that's the moment
Speaker 3: when I was like, Oh, this is gonna be breath
Speaker 3: the wild. Do I want to go here or there
Speaker 3: or that mountain or the mines or whatever. And then
Speaker 3: I did try to go because like he pointed me
Speaker 3: towards I think it was vault Fords at that point,
Speaker 3: or it might have been the ice place. He pointed
Speaker 3: me towards one of them, and I specifically wanted to
Speaker 3: go the other way. So I just basically found a
Speaker 3: big thing in the desert and rode my bike towards it,
Speaker 3: and I did hit a roadblock where it's like, I
Speaker 3: think that was the fire River I talked about where
Speaker 3: it's just like I got in there, I looked at
Speaker 3: this fire River and it was like, Hey, you can't
Speaker 3: do this right now. I think it might have been
Speaker 3: a pop up or something. If it wasn't Miles that
Speaker 3: called me, and so like, I it might actually be linear.
Speaker 3: I am going to play through it again, and I
Speaker 3: am curious if there is a way to do the
Speaker 3: dungeons or the zones out of order. But it seemed
Speaker 3: like you pretty much needed A to get to B
Speaker 3: every time.
Speaker 2: Well, but once you're in the zones, though, does that
Speaker 2: still feel like metrofusion metro dread to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: especially like once you complete an area, they're like, let's
Speaker 2: we're gonna like basically guide you out of here.
Speaker 4: How much of that is there?
Speaker 2: Like how many times do you feel like I really
Speaker 2: can only go forward even though I'm in this space now?
Speaker 2: That is technically kind of an open Metroidvanu style exploration.
Speaker 3: These areas are different in that, like every one of
Speaker 3: them you go into and you know, before you get
Speaker 3: the map, you'll basically see the map, you'll see the
Speaker 3: rooms you've been in, and then it'll like pan down
Speaker 3: in a metro Prime style and show you like, hey,
Speaker 3: here's this big, obvious like bossroom or whatever you need
Speaker 3: to get to and you got to kind of figure
Speaker 3: out how to get down. And some of these areas
Speaker 3: are more like, okay, well there's this obvious area like
Speaker 3: the mines are like, okay, there's I'm just going down,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing here. But then there's stuff like
Speaker 3: Vault Forage, which is like three separate towers and you're
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, you're trying to power these
Speaker 3: up and you are going between all three towers trying
Speaker 3: to work your way around. And then there are ways
Speaker 3: you unlock where it's like, oh, here's an easier way
Speaker 3: to get from Tower one to Tower two. And then
Speaker 3: oh I unlocked this thing at the bottom, and now
Speaker 3: it's almost like a Dark Souls type you know, shortcut
Speaker 3: thing wh'res like, now there's this like morphball elevator I
Speaker 3: can just hop into and that'll take me right to
Speaker 3: the top. So they are I would not call them linear.
Speaker 3: Some are more open than others, but they all are
Speaker 3: any room you're in, you know, it could be like, okay,
Speaker 3: well there's two different doors here. I bet one of
Speaker 3: them is a save room. Okay, there's a crumbly thing
Speaker 3: right there. I can probably blow that up later. And
Speaker 3: then there's gonna be a morphball you know, thing I
Speaker 3: can go through and who knows where that sends me.
Speaker 3: So it's any given room. It's not like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: just going to go towards where an arrow's point to me.
Speaker 3: It's you know, there is a certain amount of openness
Speaker 3: without being overwhelming, you.
Speaker 1: Know, performance wise, Dan, like, oh god, it looks incredible.
Speaker 1: It is just wild.
Speaker 3: How fucking good this game looks, not handheld with the
Speaker 3: one twenty and then the four K on the TV.
Speaker 3: I'm mainly played on TV, but oh god, it's it's
Speaker 3: the most gorgeous, like maybe most gorgeous Nintendo game ever,
Speaker 3: but definitely the best looking game on the console. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and thens as well.
Speaker 1: I really really like the gyroscopic controls with the pro controller.
Speaker 3: And like, I would recommend anyone go in there and
Speaker 3: tweak certain settings and stuff because there are certain things
Speaker 3: where it's like the motion does feel gimmicky, like you
Speaker 3: get this kind of like grapple thing that can pull
Speaker 3: shields off, and like I don't need to yank the
Speaker 3: controller every time. But the way Metroid Prime Aiming works
Speaker 3: where it's like from the beginning, it's like you hold
Speaker 3: in the left trigger and it kind of locks on
Speaker 3: to a character and you can kind of strafe around
Speaker 3: them and everything. A lot of these characters have weak
Speaker 3: spots all over their bodies, or it's better to shoot
Speaker 3: their limbs and things like that. So you lock on
Speaker 3: with the left trigger, and while you're holding that, you
Speaker 3: can kind of set the threshold that you like that
Speaker 3: will cause the radical to kind of break off of
Speaker 3: the main lock, if that makes sense, and then you
Speaker 3: can just kind of do slight little motions like boom boom,
Speaker 3: boom bo boom, hit the limbs there while still remaining
Speaker 3: locked on, so you can strafe and navigate around him
Speaker 3: and everything. It works incredibly well. So I did that handheld,
Speaker 3: I did the mouse mode stuff, which I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's I think it's interesting that the switch to has
Speaker 3: a mouse mode. I mean mainly one of for stuff
Speaker 3: like Mario Maker, you know, but for this, you know.
Speaker 3: Jan and I went to that New York event and
Speaker 3: they had the giant flat surface in front of me,
Speaker 3: which is like the most no one has something like
Speaker 3: that at home, basically in front of their TV. And
Speaker 3: it works fine there. I tried it here on the couch.
Speaker 3: I tried it on my leg. I tried it on
Speaker 3: the couch. I brought an actual like couch mousepad down.
Speaker 3: I sat on the floor and put it on like
Speaker 3: a table in front of me and stuff, and it
Speaker 3: really didn't do anything that the gyroscopic controls didn't do better.
Speaker 3: And whether you're playing with the pro controller, the joy
Speaker 3: Comes or handheld, you're gonna have access to those gyroscopic controls,
Speaker 3: so highly highly recommend turning those on tweaking them.
Speaker 1: You're liking. I thought it felt great. I am very
Speaker 1: curious and excited to check Metroid Prime for Beyond out
Speaker 1: as kind of a novice to the series. Any other
Speaker 1: closing thoughts, y'all about Metroid before we move on.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to play it. It's so, you know, the
Speaker 2: reviews are all over the place. I'm The more I
Speaker 2: read them, though, the more it's like, oh, I this
Speaker 2: is not going to be a problem for me. It's
Speaker 2: not what I was expecting. Or I'm kind of okay
Speaker 2: with this game what it is, so still have pretty
Speaker 2: high hopes. But we'll see. I'm glad, I'm damn glad
Speaker 2: you like it. That was it was kind of fun
Speaker 2: to like follow your journey of you getting it and
Speaker 2: then having early thoughts and kind of getting near the
Speaker 2: end and thinking you liked it quite a bit, and
Speaker 2: then coming around on it like in a huge way
Speaker 2: at the end five star review. That's it's good stuff.
Speaker 2: People should go read that review. It's it really is
Speaker 2: very insightful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was interesting too, Like just today
Speaker 3: the embargo left and seeing everyone's and I don't see
Speaker 3: a lot of arguments that I like wholly like you know,
Speaker 3: I don't oh your way off base or whatever, Like
Speaker 3: I think just certain aspects of this game people are
Speaker 3: gonna like more than others. And it all really worked
Speaker 3: for me. But yeah, some of the stuff for people
Speaker 3: the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: So it's I mean, read the reviews, see what you think.
Speaker 3: But I'm in the camp that very much loved it.
Speaker 2: Yep. It's like I really I don't see anything in
Speaker 2: the reviews where it's like anything that you didn't say.
Speaker 4: It is just how much it's going to bother you.
Speaker 4: So I was like kind of like scouring, like trying
Speaker 4: to find like what is the thing that is turning
Speaker 4: some people off so much?
Speaker 2: And there's no like negative reviews. There's just there's just
Speaker 2: some mixed reviews and it's like all things you said,
Speaker 2: and some people it's like it's just getting to them
Speaker 2: a little bit more, and I get I get wanting
Speaker 2: the very pure Metroid Prime experience. I especially get it
Speaker 2: now in a world where we've had from soft games
Speaker 2: that are obtuse, and we just had a Silk Song
Speaker 2: which is obtuse and isolating and weird. It's like, these
Speaker 2: games obviously can work. So if METROI Prime went more
Speaker 2: in that direction, I think it would be mostly just
Speaker 2: fine as long as they made a good game. But
Speaker 2: them also trying to make things a little bit friendlier
Speaker 2: and feel like a little bit more bombastic and sci fi,
Speaker 2: that can work as well.
Speaker 3: So I do want to bring this up real quick.
Speaker 3: Somebody said here that Logan at ign said he was
Speaker 3: bothered by tropy dialogue, and so, yeah, I have seen
Speaker 3: some complaints about the story and stuff, and listen, I
Speaker 3: will sir. I will say right here that you know
Speaker 3: that I'm not a story person in games, and so
Speaker 3: like as much as I loved this game, I would
Speaker 3: say like zero percent of that is the story. Like
Speaker 3: I did come around on those characters. I found them
Speaker 3: likable by the end, But I mean the story, if
Speaker 3: that's the type thing that bothers you, it's straight up
Speaker 3: is like you got warp to an ail. I mean
Speaker 3: playing it, find five things and go home. It's that,
Speaker 3: don't if you're looking for something deeper than that, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, that is kind of what I want
Speaker 3: from a Metroid game. I just kind of want to
Speaker 3: give me the loosest thread of like go do this
Speaker 3: stuff and then beat the game, beat the final boss.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't want other m. There's a reason
Speaker 3: I did the other M was just sure, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't need a bunch of story in my Metroid basically,
Speaker 3: is there to bother me at all?
Speaker 1: Is there stuff like Codex or like audio Lugus, Yes,
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: So if you want to dig deep into like the
Speaker 3: lore and everything like that, there's all sorts of like
Speaker 3: there's there's spooky ghost alien priests, and there's you know, like,
Speaker 3: oh what happened to these this an ancient race of
Speaker 3: ghosts or whatever, and a bunch of log books you
Speaker 3: can read. I I scanned every fucking thing I saw.
Speaker 3: I read everything I saw. It's just you can go
Speaker 3: deep on that stuff if you want to.
Speaker 1: Me. It's just, you know, it's just kind of background stuff.
Speaker 1: I've only played a baby's handful of Metroid games. I
Speaker 1: think the last one before, I mean, I'm excited check
Speaker 1: out Prime four, but was a Metroid dread the way
Speaker 1: that everyone talks about other M. I really want to
Speaker 1: check out other M now.
Speaker 2: It's worth checking out just to see how insane it is,
Speaker 2: Like with what they did with that story in the
Speaker 2: character Sam, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Do y'all think that is kind of like the equivalent
Speaker 1: of telling someone like, no, you should watch episode one
Speaker 1: first before you actually check out.
Speaker 3: Worse than that, I think there's more likable elements to
Speaker 3: that episode one. Okay, okay, all right, all right, well Dan,
Speaker 3: thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Again. There is a written review on the website. Dan
Speaker 1: wrote that, and as well as a little roundtable discussion
Speaker 1: Q and a bit that Sean edited together that is
Speaker 1: now on YouTube. But moving on with video games.
Speaker 3: All right, right, I just see a common saying the
Speaker 3: only story I went is Ancient Alien Race makes Samos
Speaker 3: a god? Play Matroid Prime four.
Speaker 2: You're good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I checked out yesterday a game that has
Speaker 1: been blowing up on Steam speaking about gigantic open worlds
Speaker 1: where the winds meet.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: A game, an open world game, kind of a Soul's
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Jam set in ancient China. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to make of this because it frames itself as
Speaker 1: kind of like a Soul's like game. The opening is
Speaker 1: very dramatic, opens with a quick time sequence a chase
Speaker 1: on a horse where you're protecting a baby. So I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: is this gonna be like death Stranding where I'm protecting
Speaker 1: a baby but in China. But no, you quickly grow
Speaker 1: up and then you wind up becoming the baby you
Speaker 1: were protecting. And the combat is kind of Souls like
Speaker 1: kind of action adventure ish so's there's moments where it
Speaker 1: reminds me of like Stellar Blade or Bayonetta, but it
Speaker 1: has like the stagger and stamina and like the posture
Speaker 1: for enemies like a Soul's game would. But because I
Speaker 1: think Where the Winds Meet is supposed to appeal to
Speaker 1: as big of an audience as popular and I've looked
Speaker 1: at the Steam numbers, this game is doing gangbusters online.
Speaker 4: It's doing very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some like built in accessibility features that
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoy, like you can parry in this game,
Speaker 1: or you can dodge, roll out of the way, you
Speaker 1: can block. But the thing that this game will give
Speaker 1: you if you enable the feature, is like just just
Speaker 1: straight up like here's the bun to press. When you
Speaker 1: got a perry, I'm gonna slow down almost to a
Speaker 1: full stop so you can parry this game. And that
Speaker 1: is treated with your posture meter or your stamina meter,
Speaker 1: so if you aren't nailing the perry yourself, the game
Speaker 1: will just be like here it is, dude, you're good,
Speaker 1: You're good? No, okay, cool, and that'll just take off
Speaker 1: like a little pip on your stamina meter. The part
Speaker 1: where I am a little bit overwhelmed by the game
Speaker 1: is that because it is a free to play game,
Speaker 1: it is also online. If you enable it, you can
Speaker 1: do co op throughout the story with friends, and I
Speaker 1: believe it's cross platform, so you can if someone has
Speaker 1: this on the PS five, you can go play with
Speaker 1: them there.
Speaker 2: Like should I be thinking like Monster Hunter?
Speaker 1: I would kind of kind of like, yeah, a combination
Speaker 1: of Monster Hunter, a soul's game, and an action adventure
Speaker 1: game is where the wins meat is. But there's just
Speaker 1: as soon as the world starts to open up and
Speaker 1: I maybe like three or four hours in, there are
Speaker 1: so many pips on the map and it just feels
Speaker 1: like Matt Barf. But I can see where this becomes
Speaker 1: someone's game for an extended period of time because you
Speaker 1: were trying to just tick off all of the boxes.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, the combat does feel good.
Speaker 1: You don't feel like you were but banging your head
Speaker 1: constantly failing at a boss like you would in some
Speaker 1: Souls games. And I understand that isn't for everyone, but
Speaker 1: it definitely feels like, Oh, I can mash out a
Speaker 1: button and then block and then Perry Doddrell out of
Speaker 1: the way and have an enjoyable time. What I will
Speaker 1: say is this game did I did something in this
Speaker 1: game that I've never done in another view game where
Speaker 1: one of the first missions before you get the map
Speaker 1: for Everything is there's a vendor that tells you, hey,
Speaker 1: this bear over there, he took my shit, can you
Speaker 1: go get it? And the game has you approach the
Speaker 1: bear and then you have a quick time event where
Speaker 1: you learn tai chi from the bear because the bear
Speaker 1: is pawing at a tree. From the bear, you learn
Speaker 1: it from observing the bear. So you have to do
Speaker 1: a quick time event of like hitting timing out and
Speaker 1: pressing a button when like a circle turns gold. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you do that a couple of times, and then
Speaker 1: you just get a gigantic message blasting over the screen
Speaker 1: saying you learn taichi from this bear, and then it
Speaker 1: becomes a martial art that you know forever now. And
Speaker 1: then you do a taichi throw onto a giant brown
Speaker 1: bear and throw it twenty feet into the air, and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh man, this game's got the juice if
Speaker 1: I learned how to do taichi from an animal?
Speaker 2: Is that the tone of the game, like, it's kind
Speaker 2: of someone in Chad said Yakuza, Like, yeah, does it
Speaker 2: sometimes feel like Yakuza?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like this game is presented very, very seriously,
Speaker 1: but as you were playing it, there is more than
Speaker 1: enough Shenanigan's constantly happening around the map that makes you
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, all right, they got a sense of humor.
Speaker 1: The movement and like the error movement as well, kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of like Chinese wirework, okay films, So
Speaker 1: it is definitely leaning on that influence for sure. I
Speaker 1: believe it's like sure shot or something. Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong everyone out there, but don't yell at me please.
Speaker 1: The game looks gorgeous. This is one of those Jimmy
Speaker 1: jams where I don't understand how and why this is
Speaker 1: free to play slash, why this looks so good?
Speaker 4: And wait, but how are they trying to get you
Speaker 4: to spend money on this friendly game?
Speaker 3: Chad is saying that apparently some one that has already
Speaker 3: spent fifty dollars on a boat mount in the game,
Speaker 3: so that might answer some of your questions.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean like in the three hours that I
Speaker 1: was playing it, I wasn't really presented initially with anything
Speaker 1: of like, well, now you've got to spend money. Brou So,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this this is strictly on a
Speaker 1: cosmetic level or if there's anything like that is like
Speaker 1: pay to win part of this, because I can't I
Speaker 1: don't know where that would affect the overall loop of
Speaker 1: the gameplay.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like cosmetics. People are saying it's a
Speaker 2: it's only cased war frame only cosmetics, and it's a
Speaker 2: it's a war frame.
Speaker 3: Battle passes and cosmetics, apparently, says the YAD.
Speaker 2: But on a boat, hey, you know that's a bargain.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if this is going to be your main
Speaker 1: means of talking to someone, I guess or party with
Speaker 1: friends dan please. Yes.
Speaker 3: Apparently they sponsored a ton of streamers to play it,
Speaker 3: and there are AI chatbot NPC's that people are fucking
Speaker 3: with to get rewards fast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, apparently the game's got a lot of AI,
Speaker 2: is what people are saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not surprised.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, damn With fifty K, couldn't you buy a
Speaker 1: real shoot boat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a good one.
Speaker 1: At a small boat? How much a canoe? Yeah?
Speaker 4: How kayaks? A couple of hundred bucks? But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: is a kayaker boat?
Speaker 1: I guess?
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's about say, anything that floats.
Speaker 1: As a boat.
Speaker 2: But my poop floats, and that's not that's.
Speaker 4: A boat for someone, both for someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but where the winds meet. It's free to play.
Speaker 1: If you were looking for like a grindy game to
Speaker 1: engage with and you just want to do taichi to
Speaker 1: a bear, that sounds fun. The game also starts with
Speaker 1: you learning how to shoot an arrow by shooting down
Speaker 1: a bunch of birds, and this like kind gentleman being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I've learned so much. Here's my Joernald to shoot arrows
Speaker 1: so you can stealthily take down birds. And then you're
Speaker 1: just shooting down a bunch of birds with your little
Speaker 1: kid companion, and I can't help but feel this is
Speaker 1: fucked up anyway. Where the wins meet.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing that Ubisoft has been trying to like
Speaker 2: get at, Like they want to make a game like
Speaker 2: this eventually, but they can't stop making Assassin's Creeds for
Speaker 2: seventy dollars, so they kind of can't like get away
Speaker 2: with it. I feel like this is the kind of
Speaker 2: thing that could come and eat its lunch and just
Speaker 2: sort of replace that whole genre of big, massive setting
Speaker 2: action of venture open world games with online functionality.
Speaker 1: But we'll see egg on my face. The game is
Speaker 1: where winds meet, not where the wins me apologies gag.
Speaker 1: Speaking about meeting things, Jeff Grubb, you and Mike Manatti
Speaker 1: met virtually to take down a bunch of space batties
Speaker 1: in Marvel Cosmic Invasion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the new beat them up from Tribute. They
Speaker 2: did that teenage mutant Ninja Turtles Shredder's Revenge game.
Speaker 4: People like that quite a bit. I thought that was
Speaker 4: a pretty good beat him up. It wasn't one of
Speaker 4: my favorites.
Speaker 2: Of this this new era that we're getting, this one
Speaker 2: is improved, I think mostly the big thing there's excuse me.
Speaker 2: You get a few more defensive options. So where you
Speaker 2: could sort of do that dodge in Turtles and it
Speaker 2: would it was not as not always effective. There was
Speaker 2: kind of kind of felt like, now this is old
Speaker 2: style beat him up. Sometimes you're just gonna get hit
Speaker 2: no matter what. Here the dodge is a little bit
Speaker 2: more effective. But there's also some characters that have a
Speaker 2: straight up like shield or a block and that has
Speaker 2: a Perry mechanic to it. Also, offense is a very
Speaker 2: good defense here because any situation you're in there is
Speaker 2: always another character that you can tag in it is
Speaker 2: a tag beat him up. So you pick two characters
Speaker 2: when you start a level. A lot of times when
Speaker 2: you're going through the campaign, they'll there'll be two characters
Speaker 2: flashing and those are like the story characters, and they
Speaker 2: also have challenges associated within them in that level, so
Speaker 2: you know to pick them and then you go. You
Speaker 2: take the two characters in there. You play as one
Speaker 2: at a time, but at any time if you are attacking,
Speaker 2: so you're hitting light attack on X or heavy attack
Speaker 2: on why while pressing that if you tap tap the
Speaker 2: left bumper, your assist character will come in and either
Speaker 2: perform their light attack or their heavy attack. Now, if
Speaker 2: you're not doing an attack and you just hit the
Speaker 2: left bumper, you'll fully swap the characters out. And this
Speaker 2: is a it's really frantic and hectic. So it's like,
Speaker 2: if you are it kind of feels like you should
Speaker 2: be spamming those assists as much as possible because they
Speaker 2: really amplify the amount of damage you can put out.
Speaker 2: And it looks cool and it feels like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of very capable in any situation I find myself in.
Speaker 2: As far as like, is this the spiritual successor to
Speaker 2: the X Men arcade Beat them Up? That people want?
Speaker 2: I think mostly, you know, it's it's not a direct
Speaker 2: follow up to that. This is, you know, the whole
Speaker 2: Marvel universe. They're taking a lot of influence from Marvel
Speaker 2: versus Capcom, the Capcom Fighting Game.
Speaker 4: Which I think is a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the moves, a lot of the
Speaker 2: looks of the character just feel like, Yeah, we played
Speaker 2: that game and loved it, we want to replicate that here.
Speaker 2: It even has the tag system and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you are into any of that stuff, or you
Speaker 2: just have a fondness for that arcade game, or you'd
Speaker 2: like Marvel stuff in general, it's going to hit really well.
Speaker 2: But you're going to have to bring some of that
Speaker 2: to this game. I think if you have no affinity
Speaker 2: for either those old games or Marvel itself as a
Speaker 2: as an entertainment industry or whatever, you will probably not
Speaker 2: get enough out of this game to justify it's Again,
Speaker 2: it's like twenty five thirty bucks or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's delivering for the people who it's meant for
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Grab to them doing this with all the old classic
Speaker 3: you know, like Turtles, this like you know, that is
Speaker 3: the genre that I think has most been hurt as
Speaker 3: it moved from the arcade because they were just quarter monters, like.
Speaker 2: One, let's figure it out. Now they've solved this, they
Speaker 2: solve that problem.
Speaker 3: I want them to bring it to Simpsons, especially now
Speaker 3: that Simpsons A Fortnite had a bit of a gaming revival,
Speaker 3: which by the way, I had multiple nights up til
Speaker 3: four a m. Both getting myself and Kayla Homer, so
Speaker 3: got Homer that battle passage. Ever, boy, that was the
Speaker 3: most effective fucking marketing tie in thing ever because that
Speaker 3: got me from not playing Fortnite in like two years
Speaker 3: to completely getting into it again. But yes, I would
Speaker 3: love to see a new Simpson's Arcade game. Uh they
Speaker 3: treatment that Marvel got.
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, and it's uh, you know his first one
Speaker 2: is that Simpson's Fortnite thing was. It's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of super bummed that it is a temporary thing.
Speaker 2: It'll come back at some point, sure, but it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's that awesome Simpsons game they made doesn't exist anymore,
Speaker 2: I know. So it's I kind of want like some
Speaker 2: permanent things, like a Simpsons Beat them Up that would
Speaker 2: be awesome to have. At this point, I think that
Speaker 2: this is a very good one. It is not as
Speaker 2: good as Streets of Rage four. It's not as good
Speaker 2: as like Absolum, Like go play Absolum instead if you
Speaker 2: haven't played that this year.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be around that one of these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good I think we could probably
Speaker 2: beat that game in one go.
Speaker 1: I think should stretch a bit before that then Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: And we'll see. But it's like right behind those like
Speaker 4: leaders of the pack, and it's totally worthy of being
Speaker 4: included in this new crop of beat him ups, the
Speaker 4: sort of new golden era that we're in.
Speaker 1: Grab. All the characters feel very distinct. There's like a
Speaker 1: pretty big character pool.
Speaker 4: I I a lot of what is it sixteen something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but because you can pick two, it actually kind
Speaker 2: of end up like you have four players. You end
Speaker 2: up picking half the roster, right, because you need eight
Speaker 2: characters total in there. So yeah's quo.
Speaker 1: I can't help but notice there's there's just like a
Speaker 1: distinct character from the X Men missing. No.
Speaker 2: I think the guy everyone that really matters.
Speaker 4: I think he joined Ice. Actually swear to god.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a moment where I like shoot, break
Speaker 1: and fuck up everything.
Speaker 4: Jan If there was one guy going to Ice, it
Speaker 4: would be Charles Xavier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: The rich aristocrat like their homes. It says, no, come
Speaker 1: live with me. I'll tell you where to go, how
Speaker 1: to use your powers, clock, I best you.
Speaker 4: I bet he would sort of be like, I got
Speaker 4: what it called his dome? What's that called your room?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Uh well he could like point out all the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: cerebral cerebra. He'd be like, well, I got this fun,
Speaker 4: I could work from home, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Exactly that fucker left his family to go to space
Speaker 1: to fuck.
Speaker 2: I think Cyclops will end up in this game eventually.
Speaker 2: It is ripe for adding a ton of new characters,
Speaker 2: and the characters are very distinct. They all play like
Speaker 2: they express what you want from each character. You know,
Speaker 2: Storm can fly, any of the flying characters. You double
Speaker 2: tamp jumps, you can fly. She sends out winds and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, or Superpower is dropping a bunch of lightning.
Speaker 2: There's some sort of golden necks to it, a little
Speaker 2: bit in that on that front, and then you know,
Speaker 2: every other character is just like, yeah, they play like
Speaker 2: you expect Wolverine. It's just you know, fury and claws
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 4: It's it's good. Yeah, where the fuck is night Crawler?
Speaker 1: True?
Speaker 2: Yeah that I can see that working as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hope eventually they get the full uh like roster.
Speaker 4: That they had in the X Men arch.
Speaker 1: I do think it's odd some of some of their inclusions,
Speaker 1: because they have Nova, which I consider like a low
Speaker 1: seed a D tier Marvel character, but then they also
Speaker 1: Beta ray Bill.
Speaker 4: Why are they trying to make better Beta ray Bill happen.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought it did have.
Speaker 2: I always like, I don't know anything about Beta ray
Speaker 2: Bill other than he comes up sometimes and people seem
Speaker 2: very excited.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, I mean, the first time he said it,
Speaker 3: I thought he said gatorade Bill, and I thought it
Speaker 3: seems like a pretty cool comic character.
Speaker 4: Might as well be that. I don't get it. Sounds
Speaker 4: like a guy you meet outside a bar, that's his job.
Speaker 4: What's funny is I can only this is such a
Speaker 4: dumb ass, old man way to sort of measure the
Speaker 4: importance of Marvel characters. And I and I kind of
Speaker 4: do that with a little bit of like what the
Speaker 4: current set of like Marvel cards is kind of like
Speaker 4: prioritizing Marvel people because it's like, well, if they're not
Speaker 4: in the cards, if they're not in this checklist, they're
Speaker 4: not important or they're not as important.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good measurement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean it just it tells you there
Speaker 4: is some sort of editorial sort of oversight there where
Speaker 4: they're like, well, we're gonna give baa Bill his own
Speaker 4: fucking card. So I'm surprised to see this. But they
Speaker 4: have been trying to. This guy's been in like every
Speaker 4: set I feel like in the last five to six years,
Speaker 4: which I do not understand. Is he show up in movies?
Speaker 4: What's the deal?
Speaker 2: No, I only he's shown up in any movies, but
Speaker 2: it feels imminent, it feels inevitable at this point.
Speaker 4: I bet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he takeaway too, thank you. I think he would
Speaker 2: be all over that if you did another one of those.
Speaker 4: He probably won't, but I think he would. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think some of the characters, like I was surprised
Speaker 2: to see cosmic ghost writers, just.
Speaker 4: A stoner ghost writer, Like he's got like this.
Speaker 2: Dome overhead, like Mysterio or whatever, but it's all the
Speaker 2: fire in there, and he's just like he's got like
Speaker 2: a space gun. He looks fucking sick.
Speaker 1: It's cosmic because if the Punisher became the ghost writer, really, so.
Speaker 4: He's Ice, Okay, God, yes, definitely fred Castle.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be ice.
Speaker 4: I think he'd No, he would kill he would kill him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would kill everyone. I'm surprised Daredevil isn't in
Speaker 1: the game, given how popular the show has been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they just like they chose a cosmic theme,
Speaker 2: like what that why they did that specifically? It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it works for the story they're telling, but
Speaker 2: like you know, there's always the rights involved in John Drake.
Speaker 2: He's just got that iron iron grip around there.
Speaker 1: What did I do to Drake? Why won't he put
Speaker 1: psychlops and things? Drake? I thought we were pals. I
Speaker 1: don't have to send you a wrestler cameo apology.
Speaker 4: Now I don't know, like what is what the deal?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: I just don't think Cyclops is that Cyclops? Like a
Speaker 4: is he popular? Like?
Speaker 1: Is he x Men ninety seven saved his rep?
Speaker 4: I guess and that was a long time well that
Speaker 4: was actually recent, was in the last years. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I just feel like I never see anyone
Speaker 4: dressing up a Cyclops for Halloween. Never see that. Never
Speaker 4: you know, don't you don't see that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start like vibrating through this podcast.
Speaker 4: All right, jan Who would you rather have in this game?
Speaker 4: Cyclops or Scarlet Spider?
Speaker 1: See I was thinking that too as Grub was talking.
Speaker 1: Scarlet Spider's pretty fuck, he's just cool.
Speaker 4: I would take Spider Man and Scarlet Spider and still
Speaker 4: not be upset. The Scarlet Spider usually wear.
Speaker 1: A vest hoodie like a hoodie vest a hoodie like
Speaker 1: a teal hoodie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, because he's the coolest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the across the Spider Verse films that maybe didn't
Speaker 1: make him the coolest. He's kind of a duive.
Speaker 4: There, but it Andy Samberg way worse.
Speaker 1: It could be worse.
Speaker 2: Moving on, joshad Josh Gadd as Scarlett Spider for sure, Josh,
Speaker 2: that's all off right, yes, yeah, I'm also planting a
Speaker 2: seed for later, so just hanging.
Speaker 1: We can't do that, no, no, but but I don't
Speaker 1: know how clued in any of y'all are to the
Speaker 1: current MCU. But apparently Josh Gadd is going to make
Speaker 1: a big appearance in the power Man Show as Josh
Speaker 1: gadd oh.
Speaker 4: Range within his.
Speaker 1: Range power Man, He's gonna be Rob Zombie's brother. Yep,
Speaker 1: yeple off.
Speaker 2: Is that a shoot?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was like, it's like Steve Zombie or something,
Speaker 3: Steven Zombie.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that. We've been going for a
Speaker 1: bit here. Let's cap off games talk on the other
Speaker 1: side of this little bricky break, and we'll also get
Speaker 1: to the news right after this over the weekend. This
Speaker 1: isn't a cry for help, this is this is like
Speaker 1: a coming to Jesus moment. But one of my dear friends, Miles,
Speaker 1: he's popped up. He's hung around at the GB at
Speaker 1: night stuff. He had a curiosity to check out a
Speaker 1: game made by Riot called League of Legends, and I decided, oh,
Speaker 1: I used to play a lot of that. Let me
Speaker 1: go download that and play with my dear friend Miles.
Speaker 1: And I got a lot of concern calls from the internet, rightfully,
Speaker 1: so so thank you everyone. But I will say that
Speaker 1: I think League of Legends as a whole is a
Speaker 1: garbage product because I don't all understand how this game
Speaker 1: in the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five will
Speaker 1: still have a launcher and we'll start to launch a whole, separate,
Speaker 1: windowed instance of when you finally get into the game.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how even the setup phase still takes
Speaker 1: you thirty or upwards to fifteen to twenty minutes. Who
Speaker 1: the fuck has time to actually play this game on
Speaker 1: a continual basis. And also the other my biggest quick
Speaker 1: my biggest gripe is for practice sake. I thought, let
Speaker 1: me go reacclimate myself to the controls and everything. None
Speaker 1: of the muscle memory has stuck. So let's see if
Speaker 1: I can remember the overall flow and how to play
Speaker 1: the game. So I entered a training match, a training
Speaker 1: match against computer opponents, and for all I know, my
Speaker 1: teammates were either other people entering in like a training
Speaker 1: mode or they were also computers. I could not quit
Speaker 1: out of this match. Wait, what dude, you're describing some like? Okay,
Speaker 1: go on, if I quit out and exited the game,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't let me launch into another game. It would
Speaker 1: just be reconnect.
Speaker 4: Reconnect to your training match against AI controlled opponents.
Speaker 1: Yes, and as far as I remember, there is nothing
Speaker 1: to earn or gain from just playing against AI opponents
Speaker 1: and or teammates.
Speaker 2: So just trying to teach you the lesson that there
Speaker 2: is no escaping League of Legends.
Speaker 1: And now this is the rest of your life. So
Speaker 1: I uninstalled it gang, everyone can can.
Speaker 4: Can reinstall itself on your computer.
Speaker 1: Tonight, I did look and Riot was still on my
Speaker 1: computer despite it.
Speaker 4: I'll get you well.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm still not in a completely
Speaker 1: good space. But speaking about space, Jeff Grub, but I'm
Speaker 1: sorry real quick, Jent, you said it took how long
Speaker 1: to load up? No? No, no, no, like to get
Speaker 1: to get out of like the setup phase of a game,
Speaker 1: because got it in Mobia's not just League of Legends,
Speaker 1: but like it takes forever to get going, and then
Speaker 1: like after fifteen to twenty minutes, that's when like, all right, shit,
Speaker 1: it's starting to hit the fan. Let's go. Okay. I
Speaker 1: still think the best mobile out there is Pokemon Unite
Speaker 1: because those games are like three minutes long. Sure, three
Speaker 1: to five minutes long. Anyway, moving on to back to Space.
Speaker 1: Jeff Grubb, Dan Reikert, you two have been playing Secretory, and.
Speaker 2: So I've talked about this the last several weeks, and
Speaker 2: it is yeah, well the Secretary happened.
Speaker 1: It's it's important. Yeah, no, I'll be good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah with me.
Speaker 2: No, it's he's right. That's the that's the noise you
Speaker 2: make for Sectory. It really clicked with me in this
Speaker 2: last week where it's like I started to like find out, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is the leaderboard everyone is on. Oh, here are
Speaker 2: the other modes, here's how some of the like the
Speaker 2: scoring system works. Oh some of these upgrades. I was
Speaker 2: ignoring are super important. Dan, you started playing this week.
Speaker 1: Right late yesterday.
Speaker 3: Basically, I played it It is the Ultimate, just like
Speaker 3: I'm going to do one more here, and I told
Speaker 3: myself like, okay, Like after work yesterday, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start playing this and I'll do a bunch
Speaker 3: of this and then when I'm getting ready to wind
Speaker 3: down for bed, I'll switch over to y Ota.
Speaker 1: And I just couldn't stop.
Speaker 3: And so I literally went from just like eyeballs about
Speaker 3: to fall out of my head, everything just sectories pulsing
Speaker 3: through my veins from that to lying in bed staring
Speaker 3: at the ceiling, which is not a good way to
Speaker 3: do things.
Speaker 1: Grub it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Geometry Wars, It's house Mark, it's everything you've said.
Speaker 3: It's I'm trying to kind of figure out because like
Speaker 3: they don't spell too much out for you. The tutorial
Speaker 3: is pretty short, so you know, it's that thing of
Speaker 3: realizing kind of in real time as you're playing, like, oh, hey,
Speaker 3: there's this strike multiplayer up there.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Oh shit?
Speaker 3: If I do that strike move and I chain it
Speaker 3: with a bunch of these power ups and stuff, then
Speaker 3: I'm getting more of a Strike multiplayer. Ooh, and then
Speaker 3: I bet if I triggered the score thing and the
Speaker 3: stack upgrades, I bet I can get a superscore there.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: There's a level of depth to it that like if
Speaker 3: you just look at it, it just looks like Twin
Speaker 3: Stick Shooter Geometry Wars, which Geometry Wars also had more
Speaker 3: depth than it appeared. But yeah, it's in that Robotron
Speaker 3: Geometry Wars Housemark Vein. And I'm still trying to kind
Speaker 3: of figure out, like I'm not anywhere near your score yet, Grub,
Speaker 3: I'm at the you're at like six million something.
Speaker 4: I'm in the like midterms.
Speaker 3: I want to say I haven't beaten it yet, but
Speaker 3: I got pretty far pretty quick. So it's like that
Speaker 3: is an intense difficult game, and I think right now
Speaker 3: I want to try to just beat it on the
Speaker 3: the first difficulty and then start going after score stuff
Speaker 3: on the next one. But yeah, just trying to figure
Speaker 3: out the strategy because the way like as you level up,
Speaker 3: there's that stack of like Okay, you get one upgrade, Pip,
Speaker 3: do you want to spend it right now on speed
Speaker 3: or do you want to get five or six of
Speaker 3: those and get your missiles or your blaster, which is
Speaker 3: you know, ultimately a bigger upgrade, and then you can
Speaker 3: spend it on shields like one time you shields and
Speaker 3: things like that. So there's really a fun interplay there,
Speaker 3: and then there's all the little things in between where
Speaker 3: it's like there's the letters that what does this spell out?
Speaker 2: Mirage Mirage on the basic mode, Secretory on the middle mode,
Speaker 2: and then I think maybe Revolution on the last one.
Speaker 3: So okay, and that Trader is the Rainbow mode thing
Speaker 3: where just everything is exploding and colorful, and they're like,
Speaker 3: it is tremendously satisfying. And the way the arena is
Speaker 3: constantly shifting and everything. Thing that strike mechanic is killer.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, grub you you unleast something by pointing.
Speaker 1: Me towards this game. It's incredible, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It has been fun to like, uh kind of like
Speaker 2: I said, was clicking and begin developing like new strategies
Speaker 2: of like, you know what, I Am going to go
Speaker 2: all in on speed early on because that way I
Speaker 2: can get around the map faster and pick up more
Speaker 2: of those pips and turn those in for more upgrades.
Speaker 2: And then really the hardest part of a run, right,
Speaker 2: now is the early part, at least on the challenge mode,
Speaker 2: because it's when you're the least survivable survivable and you
Speaker 2: kind of have to like take some risks to get
Speaker 2: your survivability up pretty quickly before the first boss fight happens.
Speaker 2: So I means you want to be like taking out
Speaker 2: as many enemies as possible, zooming around picking up everything
Speaker 2: that they drop, so that you can then start chaining
Speaker 2: together these strikes to get to all these pickups to
Speaker 2: get the upgrades. And now I can like have a
Speaker 2: stronger blaster, which is going to enable me to blast
Speaker 2: through these hordes of enemies at a certain point that
Speaker 2: could easily overwhelm me if I just had the little
Speaker 2: pea shooter. But if I'm doing that, I'm like not
Speaker 2: getting it. If I'm like saving up five upgrade tokens
Speaker 2: to get an upgraded blaster, I am not putting it
Speaker 2: in Strike. I'm not putting in this other stuff. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, what if I tried to like figure out
Speaker 2: Strike even more? I was already like doing quite a
Speaker 2: bit of it, But like what if it was all
Speaker 2: speed and Strike early on? It's like, yeah, but then
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to take out the bosses.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, what if I tried using
Speaker 2: strike on the bosses? So now instead of just always
Speaker 2: firing at the bosses, I am trying to just like
Speaker 2: dodge their bullets, find an opportunity and strike, which again
Speaker 2: is this dash movere you have iframes into their glowing
Speaker 2: weak spots and trying to get out of there real
Speaker 2: quick before I become a damageable again. And that's been like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm flipped on playing this game.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: It's a different game at this point, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I bet there are deeper strategies that I'm not even
Speaker 2: considering yet.
Speaker 3: And also, if you strike into a power up, you
Speaker 3: instantly recharge it, and so like, yes, you've been going
Speaker 3: hard on speed, which I understand because it's so easy
Speaker 3: to do because it's just one upgrade for that.
Speaker 1: Versus like four three or four per strike.
Speaker 2: It's three strike.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Strike is offense, defense and mobility. So for me, it's
Speaker 3: like it attacks things, it creates kind of a shock
Speaker 3: wave where you land, which is great. It is defense
Speaker 3: in that you have those I frames, and it's mobility
Speaker 3: and that it's like, give me the fuck out of
Speaker 3: here button, you know, so, like to me, I go
Speaker 3: super heavy on strike, which I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the upgrade like, is that just a cool down
Speaker 3: thing or does it actually expand the shockwave you know things.
Speaker 2: So it definitely expands the range of your dash. So
Speaker 2: and that's that's huge. You don't realize how huge that
Speaker 2: is until there is a wave of like seventy enemies
Speaker 2: of varying types, so you kind of just can't blast
Speaker 2: in there because there could be one that comes in
Speaker 2: from the side that you're not expecting that you can't
Speaker 2: see in that horde, but there's a there's an upgrade
Speaker 2: token right on the other side of them, and it's
Speaker 2: like that's it's a little bit far for my strike. Well,
Speaker 2: if you upgraded it, it's not too far. You dash
Speaker 2: halfway across across the map and then your explosion everything
Speaker 2: is bigger. And it's like once you start put piecing
Speaker 2: that together that it really does unlock your ability to
Speaker 2: survive a lot better strike range range. So that's huge, Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, just talking about it. Yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 2: one of those games. It just makes your brain explode
Speaker 2: the entire time you're flying well.
Speaker 1: That parentheses positive.
Speaker 2: Y oh yeah, okay, it's a very light rogue light,
Speaker 2: by the way, very light like it's it's an arcade game.
Speaker 2: There are things that you are unlocking that you can
Speaker 2: use and future runs, making it technically I guess, a
Speaker 2: rogue light. Those are like cards for your deck. You
Speaker 2: have to pick eight cards for your deck, and these
Speaker 2: are the packs that unlock when once you get an
Speaker 2: evolve tokens. There's the yellow tokens that's the evolved token,
Speaker 2: and then there's the blue tokens it's the upgrade tokens.
Speaker 2: On to get an evolved token, you get these decks,
Speaker 2: you can open them up. One of them stays in
Speaker 2: your hand, the other three go back into like the
Speaker 2: thing that you can shuffle into later. Uh and and
Speaker 2: these things are like, hey, you can get a drone
Speaker 2: that fires lasers, or you can will upgrade your the
Speaker 2: potential for you to get six upgrades for your blaster
Speaker 2: or something like that, and maybe even give you a
Speaker 2: free one right now. But that's a good version of
Speaker 2: the card that has some negatives. So in that case,
Speaker 2: it's like okay, but for the next one hundred seconds
Speaker 2: you can't strike.
Speaker 3: At all, so there's these gives and takes all this
Speaker 3: first spend a million points to get two shields right now,
Speaker 3: Like there's some really interesting ones there. Yeah, with the
Speaker 3: downside where it's like, hey, we're going to spam enemies
Speaker 3: for fifteen seconds, but you're going to get this extra
Speaker 3: good upgrade, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like messing around with that. I was for
Speaker 2: a long time there. I was just trying on Challenge
Speaker 2: and I was kind of using the basic deck and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not really making a lot of progress. So
Speaker 2: I went back down to the experience difficulty and started
Speaker 2: doing random for the decks.
Speaker 4: And being like, let's just see what happened.
Speaker 2: And it was like I discovered, like, oh, the drones
Speaker 2: can be very useful, especially if you get some of
Speaker 2: these other upgrades that causes them to reload faster or
Speaker 2: if a fire at a higher rate. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they are actually greatly improving my survivability. Start hitting things
Speaker 2: off to the side that I am not ready for,
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, so when I really what you
Speaker 2: got to do is kind of start playing have your
Speaker 2: early on strategy. But like once the decks start starts unfolding,
Speaker 2: it's like here's what's available to you once you have
Speaker 2: this Evolver options. Oh okay, so I'm getting stuff that
Speaker 2: is good for drones. I need to start specking in
Speaker 2: that direction. When I get the option. It's like it's
Speaker 2: fun to like go with the flow at a certain point.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I it's it's all.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be my main thing forbid here outside him.
Speaker 3: I didn't put it on the dock, but jan Tingus Goose.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, you can't.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Ting I haven't played it. I just got a press
Speaker 3: release for it this morning and I googled it. Look
Speaker 3: on the steam Tingus Goose. I think we got to
Speaker 3: check out Tingus Goose. Just look up Tingus Goose. All right, well,
Speaker 3: Tingus Goose. We're very intrigued by whatever Tingus Goose is.
Speaker 1: Do we have to Goose?
Speaker 4: Don't know?
Speaker 1: Man, it's Tingus Goose.
Speaker 4: What do you want?
Speaker 1: This looks? I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's a very pregnant stick figure?
Speaker 1: Why is Tengus Goose? You know? I was gonna say
Speaker 1: something about indie games or saving the industry, but maybe not.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with this, actually are there's so many fingers
Speaker 4: on that fame.
Speaker 3: I want to play Tengas.
Speaker 1: Goose all right, going from outer space or I guess
Speaker 1: it contains space and sectory to the underworld. I've been
Speaker 1: playing Demon School and Gang. This has all the trappings
Speaker 1: of something I really really enjoy. It's a tax that
Speaker 1: was the thought I had. Sound like two pieces of
Speaker 1: art for a me like that's a jam thing. It's
Speaker 1: a taxis game or tiles in it anime adjacent looking people.
Speaker 1: The art style is absolutely fantastic. I think my favorite
Speaker 1: part of this is the stage transitions going from the
Speaker 1: overworld to a combat instance and then the stage completion
Speaker 1: animations that happen the Also the time transitions, so from
Speaker 1: the morning phase afternoon phase of the evening phase. I
Speaker 1: really like that. It's very inspired by Persona. That being said,
Speaker 1: I don't think I like this game. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: think I like playing this game. The tactics portion of
Speaker 1: it takes too long to get to. That being said,
Speaker 1: I'm still very early in. I fully intend to spend
Speaker 1: some more time into it. I've at this point now
Speaker 1: unlocked like the full party of four and the actual
Speaker 1: gameplay of it. I'm not super into. And this is
Speaker 1: coming off of the heels from also finishing Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: Tactics Evelis Chronicles, you know, one of the best tactics
Speaker 1: games in my opinion, But the combat is done in
Speaker 1: a two stage sequence. There is the planning phase where
Speaker 1: you have your tile set and your characters, and you
Speaker 1: will using your ability points to determine your actions of
Speaker 1: that turn. So you're either attacking, you're repositioning, you're moving characters.
Speaker 1: And at first I was a little bit bothered by
Speaker 1: how it looks because it's very light in what happens
Speaker 1: in the planning phase. So you'll attack someone and then
Speaker 1: it'll be like, okay, cool, you kill them, and nothing
Speaker 1: will happen. There's no animations that get shown. You just
Speaker 1: see the HP indicators go off. And then after you
Speaker 1: execute the planning phase, that's when shit hits the fan,
Speaker 1: and where your characters will move into place. They'll do
Speaker 1: like team up attacks, pop off their abilities. The combat
Speaker 1: is fairly light so far where I'm at, Like your
Speaker 1: main character, they will just they're melee focused. Your second
Speaker 1: character that you start the game with, they do like
Speaker 1: a little swap a roo with with the enemy characters.
Speaker 1: So positioning is very important in this game, like most
Speaker 1: tactics games. I'm just not really jiving with the combat.
Speaker 1: And I think another game, a game from last year
Speaker 1: that has kind of ruined tactics for me in a
Speaker 1: positive way is Tactical Breech Wizards because that is so
Speaker 1: snappy and so fast. The writing is also great in that,
Speaker 1: and I think that game has kind of ruined the
Speaker 1: tactics or strategy or PG genre for me because I'm
Speaker 1: able to pop off moves so fast and find the
Speaker 1: synergy and get rolling in the game incredibly at a
Speaker 1: nice pace versus the handholding that is kind of stuck
Speaker 1: with Demon School because it is also trying to be
Speaker 1: a JRPG. The parts where it is streamlined at least
Speaker 1: is there's multiple places to go explore, but it'll check
Speaker 1: mark you of like, Hey, this is where you're supposed
Speaker 1: to go, this is the thing you're supposed to interact with,
Speaker 1: or the person you're supposed to talk to to progress
Speaker 1: the story. That being said, I'm not really into the
Speaker 1: story as of right now. You're college students going to
Speaker 1: a demon hunting college, and yeah, like I'm not really
Speaker 1: liking the combat either, but the overall presentation I really
Speaker 1: do enjoy. Maybe as I unlock more skills or whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe get a better handle over the combat and maybe
Speaker 1: that'll change. But as of right now, the whole planning
Speaker 1: phase step of like all right, you're gonna go telegraph
Speaker 1: your moves and then you'll go see them play out
Speaker 1: isn't really sticking with me. But that is Demon School.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a tactic game, I definitely suggest
Speaker 1: you check out Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Tactics, The Evilise Chronicles.
Speaker 1: Moving on from games, the things you play games on,
Speaker 1: Dan Reikert, you have the a y n odin three
Speaker 1: I did in.
Speaker 3: The ongoing series of me and Grubb being sickos about
Speaker 3: these things. You saw the video we did about the Thor,
Speaker 3: which seemed like it made eight million people buy it because.
Speaker 1: That thing is awesome.
Speaker 4: Constantly about that.
Speaker 3: That's trying to say, jan, I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: got of it right. Everyone else got it on this.
Speaker 1: Call I get to get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I've seen a lot of people say
Speaker 3: they got it. Check out that video if you haven't
Speaker 3: seen it. It is tremendous for just about every constant
Speaker 3: week imagine but specifically DS in three D S.
Speaker 4: This is I'm sorry, Dan, not to cut you off
Speaker 4: really really quickly. You guys, remember what I was complaining
Speaker 4: about yesterday right on the You got to be more specific.
Speaker 4: There's I complain about a lot because everything is bad.
Speaker 4: It's fine. I was complaining about the Thor's power button
Speaker 4: on the bottom lip. They released an update yesterday that
Speaker 4: doesn't that turns off the power button when you close
Speaker 4: the lid, and now I don't turn it off, turn
Speaker 4: it on and off, sorry, turn it on.
Speaker 2: This is why you should complain more, because it makes
Speaker 2: it makes things change, it makes ratification.
Speaker 4: It's still a problem when I'm holding it on. But
Speaker 4: baby steps right, you have to check. I think that's
Speaker 4: another thing. And maybe you'll talk more about this with
Speaker 4: the with the odin they a lot of these settings
Speaker 4: are are sort of like hidden in a way that
Speaker 4: as someone who's very flat went with Android, it's like
Speaker 4: I still can't find where these magic settings are because
Speaker 4: they're either like hiding in plain sight in the setting section,
Speaker 4: maybe mislabeled for one reason or another. But I can't
Speaker 4: find some of these settings. I know the power button
Speaker 4: update happened in the recent Thor update, but I don't
Speaker 4: see where to change it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there there, I think there still is that uh
Speaker 2: you know, double tap the power button de before it
Speaker 2: does anything.
Speaker 4: But I cannot remember where this setting is. Couldn't begin
Speaker 4: to point in the right direction anyway.
Speaker 3: I will say that, you know whereas the Thor is
Speaker 3: clearly you know with the two screens. Great for three
Speaker 3: D S and DS. This is more just kind of
Speaker 3: like a traditional form factor here. You know, it looks
Speaker 3: kind of like maybe a wider Vita and it is powerful,
Speaker 3: like I've been running everything on it, like I think
Speaker 3: I wanted. This has burnout three for those watching the
Speaker 3: video version, and it runs awesome. You can are you
Speaker 3: still sitting resolution quite a bit? No, not crash mode.
Speaker 3: I didn't do great on that during the Bombita or
Speaker 3: the Extra Life.
Speaker 2: In some ways you did better than anyone.
Speaker 3: It was incredible, yes, but you can say of that
Speaker 3: like I did the exact same thing. I followed the
Speaker 3: same video I did with Joey's retro handhelds, where it's
Speaker 3: like you didn't get that same just great interface and
Speaker 3: everything go between a million different consoles and everything. It's
Speaker 3: just to me, it is a I guess, less interesting
Speaker 3: version of the Thor because it doesn't have the dual
Speaker 3: screen thing. So this is just like a traditional, albeit
Speaker 3: powerful version of one of those basically, So I'm going
Speaker 3: to lean on this mostly for like PS two, GameCube, Dreamcast,
Speaker 3: things like that, but also it's like the Thor has
Speaker 3: that form factor too to work. It would fit in
Speaker 3: your pocket. It wasn't too wide, you know, even folded up,
Speaker 3: but it's a little big, but you could put it
Speaker 3: in a pocket, whereas this is a bit too tall
Speaker 3: for that. Gotta looking at it. I mean this looks
Speaker 3: like it's probably nine or ten. Yeah, that that's a
Speaker 3: beefy boy to do. But it is BP, so it's
Speaker 3: like a little less kind of you know, throw it
Speaker 3: in a bag, packable, put it in a pocket type thing.
Speaker 3: But if you're looking for something like solely for like
Speaker 3: stuff like PS two, which obviously can run all thegalle
Speaker 3: stuff for the most part, except for there are certain
Speaker 3: cores that will work on on the Thor but won't
Speaker 3: work on here, So like the N sixty four corps,
Speaker 3: the standard one that people recommend doesn't work on there.
Speaker 3: So like the video I saw, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you got to get the standalone in six for emulator
Speaker 3: that is either paid or you have ads on it.
Speaker 3: So like, I don't know if that's the thing that's
Speaker 3: going to be fixed at some point here, but like
Speaker 3: I'm sure it will be at some point. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't as just like you know, with the Thor,
Speaker 3: I followed that Joey's Retor handled video and it was
Speaker 3: just set up perfectly first time. This one had a
Speaker 3: few little tweaks and stuff that we're not quite there yet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so the big issue there is, and this
Speaker 2: is in the weeds. This uses the snap Dragon eight
Speaker 2: Elite I think, which is a really really new chip.
Speaker 2: The Thor I think used the snap Dragon eight Gen two,
Speaker 2: which is have been out for a minute, so people
Speaker 2: in that scene have updated all of their cores and
Speaker 2: stuff to work really well with the GIN two.
Speaker 1: The Elites just early on in that process.
Speaker 2: So all the stuff that happened with those previous snap
Speaker 2: Dragon processors will happen here. It'll just take time. I
Speaker 2: pretty sure that's the issue.
Speaker 1: I'll say.
Speaker 3: Just the ergonotics and everything right now, like the sticks
Speaker 3: and everything feel fantastic. I mean, I have found that
Speaker 3: the AI in stuff has been a higher quality than
Speaker 3: some of the other companies have been trying out lately,
Speaker 3: so still very interested in everything they've got coming out,
Speaker 3: But the Thor is sexier alternative right now?
Speaker 2: Does the ODE and three have active cooling? Just have
Speaker 2: like like a fan running inside.
Speaker 3: Of it that, Yes, it does have active cooling.
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking on right now. Yeah, Yeah, it's got
Speaker 1: active cooling.
Speaker 2: Just a little interest because like the Yeah, the whole
Speaker 2: thing with this new Elite I think is it's got
Speaker 2: a very power efficient process on it. But yeah, they
Speaker 2: probably are going to run that thing as high as
Speaker 2: they can because it should be able to like really
Speaker 2: handle quite a few emulators that other devices have struggled
Speaker 2: with once all the support is there, but that'll take time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen people mentioning things like PS three and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I haven't quite got around to messing
Speaker 3: with that yet, but yeah, that PS two era, it
Speaker 3: runs very very well.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to uh getting my my Thor back.
Speaker 2: I don't I won't be running out and getting an odin.
Speaker 2: I have not gotten an odin up to this point
Speaker 2: because every time I think about it, I'll just keep
Speaker 2: using my steam deck for this. I'll save the hundreds
Speaker 2: of dollars and just keep using my using my Steam deck,
Speaker 2: which it mostly is going to do a lot of
Speaker 2: the same stuff. And the support there is off the
Speaker 2: off the charts, so I can kind of rely on
Speaker 2: the community there in a lot of ways. And you
Speaker 2: know PS three has been out running on that thing
Speaker 2: from the beginning, so I don't need to be rash
Speaker 2: and go out and get this thing. The thor serves
Speaker 2: a very specific purpose for me.
Speaker 1: Speaking about specific purpose, Jeff Crubb, you picked out something
Speaker 1: that is very specific to you. You are you have
Speaker 1: been using the Analog three D.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like I've been using it a lot
Speaker 2: in the length the last week, and there's been some
Speaker 2: updates to it. The ever drive got fully updated. It's
Speaker 2: fully compatible now. That's been great. So the big thing
Speaker 2: that did happen recently with that ever drive update is
Speaker 2: they put a follow up update, a follow up up
Speaker 2: date out for it that enables the unleashed power mode
Speaker 2: to work on the Analog three D, which is basically
Speaker 2: they're super overclocked. Basically, it's just like unlock the CPU,
Speaker 2: unlock the GPU, and let these games run as good
Speaker 2: as possible. And with that turned on, with thirty two
Speaker 2: bit color turned on and d blur turned on, and
Speaker 2: those are like the main ones that make a difference.
Speaker 2: This is a it's an n sixty four pro.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 2: It is a mid gen refresh. I know the gen
Speaker 2: and it feels like they just started the n sixty
Speaker 2: four generation. We're already getting a mid gen refresh. But
Speaker 2: it really is the best way to play in sixty
Speaker 2: four games in the vast majority of cases, which is
Speaker 2: not what I was expect I was expecting with this thing.
Speaker 2: I was thinking I would get something that's just like
Speaker 2: another way to play in sixty four.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's the best way to finally have a way to
Speaker 3: play Mario sixty four in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's the old thing is like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: we're sick os, we're doing this. We all know what's
Speaker 2: going on here. I just want to know the reason
Speaker 2: to spend money on the Nintendo sixty four because I'm
Speaker 2: nostalgic and stupid. It's not that, it's more than that.
Speaker 4: It is like the.
Speaker 2: Performance of stuff like Perfect Dark matched up with the accuracy,
Speaker 2: which is not something you get from most emulators, like
Speaker 2: they most emulators mess up stuff like trilinear filtering, which
Speaker 2: makes the textures look right. This gets all that stuff
Speaker 2: right and then runs the games better. Now you're not
Speaker 2: going to get the upscaled resolution. It would be nice
Speaker 2: to have that option, I suppose, but I would probably
Speaker 2: still choose to run in sixty four games at their
Speaker 2: original resolution because that does a good job of hiding
Speaker 2: things and it looks good when you put on the
Speaker 2: CRT filters, which is how I would mostly play this.
Speaker 2: And it's it's just an ideal in.
Speaker 4: Sixty four in just about every way, and mix revisiting
Speaker 4: that library really really nice.
Speaker 3: It is my favorite way now too. And like GB,
Speaker 3: you and I both have a million ways to play
Speaker 3: sixty four games. I mean we've got retro tanks, multiple
Speaker 3: and you know and stuff. We've got so many different
Speaker 3: ways to do this. I got a mister that has
Speaker 3: a four core and everything on it. Now, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: the ID have this sleek thing that sits underneath my TV,
Speaker 3: just one HDMI cable out and it has both Bluetooth
Speaker 3: and it can just like in the original controllers there,
Speaker 3: and it just looks incredible and has all these great
Speaker 3: options like that. This is my favorite way to play
Speaker 3: in sixty four games right now. And I know I
Speaker 3: mentioned before on the BombCast that my ever drive was
Speaker 3: not working with it. I didn't go ahead. Yeah, oh
Speaker 3: they have the ever Drive. Yeah oh, I didn't know
Speaker 3: they have to drive.
Speaker 2: That's what that was saying. Yeah, I bought a summer
Speaker 2: cart too, because they has better sixty four D D
Speaker 2: sports not here yet, but they updated the ever drive
Speaker 2: so that you can get the full support of unleashed
Speaker 2: in everything. Yeah, they did that in the last week.
Speaker 2: Oh geez, that's sound. That's sound. That's what I'm using it.
Speaker 2: When the quick look goes up, people see my backups.
Speaker 1: Link me to whatever I do to the ever drive
Speaker 1: because yeah, I like, it's super simple.
Speaker 2: You'll have to boot it up for the first time
Speaker 2: with the new bootloader on original hardware.
Speaker 3: But once you do that, you're talking about that. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, the Anaalog three D is just fantastic. Like
Speaker 3: they just continue to be like and if I'm going
Speaker 3: to play like a GBA game, I'm doing it on
Speaker 3: the pocket, I'm playing a sixty four game, I'm playing
Speaker 3: it on the on the three D.
Speaker 2: It's great and I'll think I think this is Analog's
Speaker 2: best products so far. The pocket is so versatile and
Speaker 2: open and really really good. But it's like something about
Speaker 2: this of them sort of solving problems with the N
Speaker 2: sixty four in a way that most other things have not,
Speaker 2: and that improved performance. I keep going back to it,
Speaker 2: but I kind of can't overstate how much of a
Speaker 2: difference it makes. It's huge. So they really came through
Speaker 2: with this thing. And I don't think the two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty that I paid for it was too much.
Speaker 2: That's about the right price for it. I know it
Speaker 2: just went up to two seventy, but even then, my
Speaker 2: God's that seems like a pretty fair price.
Speaker 4: For what this is.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very happy for you, guys. I'm also happy
Speaker 1: that it's time for the news.
Speaker 4: The news keeps coming, and just most top coming.
Speaker 1: News.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this news. Capcom is reportedly working
Speaker 2: on a new Dead Rise in sequel starring Frank West.
Speaker 2: A new Dead Rising game featuring the original protagonist Frank
Speaker 2: West is is reportedly in development at Capcom. This is
Speaker 2: not a remaster or remake, but a new main entry.
Speaker 2: According to MP First and VGC sources, The sequel was
Speaker 2: said to take place in Hollywood with a massive or
Speaker 2: inside of a massive inclused movie studio a lot, so
Speaker 2: it's a leisure suit Larry box office bus, like this
Speaker 2: is what we're going to h Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing where this could be
Speaker 2: popping up here pretty soon. They did do that remake
Speaker 2: Slash remaster, mostly a remaster of that first one recently,
Speaker 2: and that was well received. I'm I'm ready for more
Speaker 2: Dead Rising. I think it's the kind of thing that
Speaker 2: it makes sense for Capcom right now.
Speaker 3: It's been long enough. Like I remember, I remember being
Speaker 3: one of the defenders of three. You know that Xbox
Speaker 3: one launch around there.
Speaker 2: I think it was a launch game.
Speaker 3: I like, it didn't have the most personality of the series,
Speaker 3: but I still thought was super fun. And then something
Speaker 3: about four, even though it wasn't four Frank West, it
Speaker 3: was like Chris Frank West, you know, like general theme.
Speaker 4: I think. So I didn't play that one, though.
Speaker 3: I played enough to just know that it wasn't for me,
Speaker 3: and I'd like to go back to that and see
Speaker 3: what that did wrong. But especially after the deluxe remaster,
Speaker 3: like Man Dead Rising, there's really nothing quite like it,
Speaker 3: and I yes, there's definitely room for more of that.
Speaker 2: So it does sound like this will go back to
Speaker 2: the clock mechanic, the time mechanic of the first one
Speaker 2: for this new game, and it's like, yeah, this one,
Speaker 2: I can kind of see it. I think the idea
Speaker 2: is the enemy that has trapped you, the villain that's
Speaker 2: trapped you in this movie. Studio is trying to film
Speaker 2: the perfect movie, and my mind keeps going back to
Speaker 2: Stuntman of like trying to get the scenes beat the
Speaker 2: right and stunt man.
Speaker 3: Or super Larry Box Office Bust or well.
Speaker 2: Yeah I got I just don't want to be so obvious,
Speaker 2: but yeah, leisure suit Larry Box Office Bust, where it's
Speaker 2: like you're trying to do these runs as you learn
Speaker 2: the game, where it's like, okay, now I can go
Speaker 2: through this scene and I just nailed that perfectly. Let's
Speaker 2: get to this next one. I don't know it quite
Speaker 2: as well, but maybe I'll get lucky. I could see
Speaker 2: that structure working really well with something like that, so
Speaker 2: kind of exciting, and Capcom themselves are making it like
Speaker 2: it's being done internally. It sounds like I think they're
Speaker 2: going to try to make this like one of the
Speaker 2: other pillars that holds up next to Resident Evil and
Speaker 2: Monster Hunter and stuff like that. I don't think it
Speaker 2: could reach that tier, but they'll try to give it
Speaker 2: a modern glow up, and I think there's a potential for.
Speaker 1: It to hit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of runway for Dead Rising
Speaker 4: to contemporize, right Like, I think there's stuff that could
Speaker 4: be added in terms of quality of life.
Speaker 3: So that's excitingers Goose.
Speaker 2: Indeed, trademark control Resident appears to have been filed by Remedy.
Speaker 2: This is likely a new control game. It's also the
Speaker 2: kind of thing that could pop up at like the
Speaker 2: Game Awards.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: It's hard to like read too much into the timing
Speaker 2: of trademark filings, but they do occasionally happen right before
Speaker 2: the first public mention and we are mere days away
Speaker 2: from the game awards. So does it feel like time
Speaker 2: for new control to you guys, because it does to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean they I think, what was that multiplay
Speaker 3: FBC or whatever? Yeah, yeah, maybe that's why in my
Speaker 3: head it's like I've been that long. But that's a
Speaker 3: totally different thing obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a different team and everything. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think I think it makes sense for sure.
Speaker 1: I think the d l C.
Speaker 4: What was the last controlled d l C. I don't
Speaker 4: remember what it was called when.
Speaker 2: That experience?
Speaker 1: Yeah a w Yeah, yeah, there is a gotcha there
Speaker 1: anime wife who control game out right now?
Speaker 3: Jane, we have to stop you.
Speaker 1: What can I do? I don't understand were going to
Speaker 1: cut your internet cables? Jane?
Speaker 4: Say that again slowly and make eye contact.
Speaker 1: There is a gotcha anime lady wife who control game
Speaker 1: out right now.
Speaker 4: You know, I heard you eleven syllables, but it just
Speaker 4: I don't know, it felt a lot longer forever. Unpack
Speaker 4: this carefully.
Speaker 1: There's an anime wife who gotscha control game out right now? Right?
Speaker 1: So what does that mean? I I know what some
Speaker 1: of that means, but what does it present? Like?
Speaker 4: Like what are we what are we talking about? I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't explored it because I know people will judge.
Speaker 2: Well, what make songs about?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: Ooh?
Speaker 2: Control? Right?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: Right? I'm gonna get out of here. That's my time, folks. Listen,
Speaker 4: that's all for me. But Jan, how is it control?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: What are you saying?
Speaker 1: I think like it's in terms of the gameplay, like
Speaker 1: you're shooting, you're like Telekanisa stuff. Uh okay, I swear
Speaker 1: I didn't have a fever dream about this.
Speaker 4: No, I believe it exists. Anything's possible in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Of course, now that I'm trying to panically google this
Speaker 1: to prove myself, I'm not finding it.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean anything, you know, it could mean something.
Speaker 2: Nintendo is acquiring band dynamicos Singapore Studio and we'll rename
Speaker 2: it Nintendo Studio Singapore.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is Yeah, it's a small acquisition. They're spending like
Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy thousand dollars, which is like probably
Speaker 2: barely going to cover lawyer's fees after all, this like
Speaker 2: deal is done. The ideal, the idea seems to be
Speaker 2: here that this was a studio that helped out a
Speaker 2: bunch of companies, like making assets. But it worked on
Speaker 2: Pickment or I'm sorry, I think it worked on uh
Speaker 2: the uh was the shoot or Splatoon. It worked on
Speaker 2: Splatoon assets for Nintendo and a few other things.
Speaker 4: But specifically.
Speaker 1: Is what the game is called.
Speaker 2: This is the anime anime Wife Food Got Your Game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of it's part of the hoyoverse.
Speaker 4: I bet it's actually that's what tinga scooze really is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it sounds like Natata's like, we'll start paying these
Speaker 2: people's salary instead, since you might be considering closing them
Speaker 2: down and we don't want that because they did some
Speaker 2: work for us, so we're going to take this on instead.
Speaker 2: This is not some This is nowhere near like an
Speaker 2: Activision acquisition or something like that. It is just them
Speaker 2: shoring up the support for their future games. It does
Speaker 2: show that Nintendo is mindful of these things though, like
Speaker 2: we want to have a strong pipeline of being able
Speaker 2: to develop games, and we use a lot of external partners,
Speaker 2: and if they're threatened unless their alpha dream, we're going
Speaker 2: to step in and do something about it and make
Speaker 2: sure that they can keep making games for us.
Speaker 1: And they continue their run of having the most creative
Speaker 1: names for their studios.
Speaker 2: I mean in SS Nintendo Studio Singapore, US boy I just.
Speaker 3: Studio B four, where it is business, all business.
Speaker 2: They're in Indiana. Oh yeah, weird.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Splitter Cell remake has a new director and it's the
Speaker 2: same one who left three years ago. Sounds like just
Speaker 2: things are going swimmingly over there at Ubisoft, who reappointed
Speaker 2: Day Grivell as the game director for the Splinter Cell remake,
Speaker 2: a role he previously held from November twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: to October twenty twenty two. Drivell announced his return to
Speaker 2: Ubisoft Toronto on LinkedIn, calling it a very special team
Speaker 2: and project. Ubisoft confirmed the remake in December twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: stating it would be built with Snowdrop Engine to update
Speaker 2: the two thousand and two original with new generation visuals, gameplay,
Speaker 2: and dynamic lighting. Since sharing concept are in November twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, there has been little information, so yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess they're still working on that. This at this point,
Speaker 2: this story of ubusoffian like we were working on a game.
Speaker 2: It'll happen one day, we promise, is like something they've
Speaker 2: done so many times with like Beyond Good and Evil.
Speaker 2: And I guess that Prince of Persia sansa Time remake,
Speaker 2: which does seem like it might be coming out soon,
Speaker 2: but I just I'm sick of it. Just tell me
Speaker 2: when the game actually has something going on that we
Speaker 2: can really look at.
Speaker 3: They should make the first splinter so good this time.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's is this this is not? Is this a
Speaker 2: Metal Gear versus Splinter Cell thing or is this a
Speaker 2: stealth thing?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 3: It is actually both because it was always compared the
Speaker 3: two and splinterself was one with no personality and also
Speaker 3: was very annoying to play.
Speaker 4: The entire time.
Speaker 2: Is awesome. I can't like they put.
Speaker 3: What if you're not good at sneaking, well, don't play
Speaker 3: the game, then Dan the Metal Gears let me play it.
Speaker 4: Also, it's not no personality, it's Tom Clancy Dad person Right.
Speaker 4: It's a very small difference there.
Speaker 1: Jane, we still got to do the co op mode.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that is good? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: is it Pandora's Tomorrow? Am I making up a title again?
Speaker 3: Tomorrow is the second one, and Chaos Theory was the third.
Speaker 3: I think it was the Chaos Theory co op mode.
Speaker 3: I did that with KL way back in the day.
Speaker 3: I was super fun.
Speaker 1: No, we yeah, we should do that in the next year. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've got it on the on the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I just break my stylist for my tablet
Speaker 2: in my sock.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Bud, you got I'm a dipshit man. You got
Speaker 1: hard ass skin, Dug.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's weird. I barely did anything
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: Chat, You're wrong. It's not Spies verse Merks. Spies versus
Speaker 3: Merks was that early Xbox Live version on the original
Speaker 3: Xbox that was a that was a versus mode thing.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, Marino saying it's Conviction that has the co
Speaker 3: op mode. Conviction was a good one. Yes, Conviction was
Speaker 3: the first good splinter selling Maybe you're just only good.
Speaker 2: You just liked how all those the splash screens with
Speaker 2: all the titles over the game and everything.
Speaker 1: Conviction was awesome.
Speaker 3: You get a little camera, put it out of the door.
Speaker 1: It's great. Backler and I are the font sikos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Zone for two here.
Speaker 2: So people are trying to figure out what that Game
Speaker 2: Awards mysterious devilish statue mean.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm going, guys, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this.
Speaker 2: It's in the desert, and I do think that you're
Speaker 2: overdue for like a walk in the desert on Peyote
Speaker 2: Awards statue.
Speaker 3: I need to see what this is like is like crazy,
Speaker 3: oh God, like.
Speaker 2: Looking on the hass, like the red tentacles coming out
Speaker 2: of it. Anyway, people are like it's God of War.
Speaker 4: It's not got War. People that was like reporting this
Speaker 4: is related to Diablo.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. A Diablo DLC drop, of course, that's
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that would do. They have a
Speaker 2: lot of money over there at Blizzard. Apparently Diablo has
Speaker 2: been ruled out as well. Uh so maybe it is
Speaker 2: still Diablo. I don't know. But if it's not those
Speaker 2: two games, it's got to be Bubbsy. Right, Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is cool. It could being Goose.
Speaker 4: I mean it's either so here's the thing, right, this
Speaker 4: is either said that it's just so insane that Wellings
Speaker 4: is now just like the catch all for anything we
Speaker 4: keep we don't have words for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is very problematic. Yeah, well, I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it feels like very obviously a paid,
Speaker 4: bought and sold thing. And so when you have something
Speaker 4: like that, is it like is it the weird thing
Speaker 4: where it's like it's the thing where it's like they
Speaker 4: couldn't say no to the amount of money that they
Speaker 4: were going to offer to just you know, uh epp,
Speaker 4: this like statue thing or is this a game franchise
Speaker 4: studio that people actually hear about?
Speaker 2: I mean it could be a little column A column B.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's I don't think people should get
Speaker 1: their hopes up because the odds are That could be
Speaker 1: like where wins meet style game. It is like a
Speaker 1: gigantic game that maybe mulbil to play that we've never
Speaker 1: heard of. It could just be a collaboration with that.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's Echo the Dolphin.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when Michael Jackson was going to do
Speaker 3: that comeback tour and he was planning for a fifty
Speaker 3: foot robot of himself to roam the desert around Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: No, I don't remember this.
Speaker 3: I remember thinking that was a really cool idea. I
Speaker 3: liked the idea, and I wish they would have made
Speaker 3: that giant robot.
Speaker 4: Damn, he should have a mech it lights up at night.
Speaker 4: That's neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, them control.
Speaker 4: Maybe you think so, I don't think I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But it could be.
Speaker 2: I just like it's the The Diablo made so much
Speaker 2: sense because it just looked satanic. So and it's got
Speaker 2: like skulls on it or whatever, or is it just
Speaker 2: people's heads is like a bust.
Speaker 4: I don't know it's I don't see it being God
Speaker 4: of it doesn't it's not Got of War. It's not
Speaker 4: Got War. Yeah, it's pretty metal. Oh sorrows, says Lexie.
Speaker 1: I could see that, George, Yeah, sorrows.
Speaker 4: It's got like a I could see. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think this door is gonna open up. I think someone's
Speaker 4: gonna come out of it.
Speaker 1: Michael jackis dule it will be half Life three.
Speaker 4: Actually I'm I'm almost positive it couldn't be Half Life three.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't do anything this way way.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're gonna open up your steam deck and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's been there the whole time. Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here. Your metal Gears producer says
Speaker 2: he's decided on future remix. Middle Gear Solid Flour would
Speaker 2: be a real challenge. Basically, what they what they're saying
Speaker 2: is they did Delta and now they are assessing things
Speaker 2: and in the planning like early planning stages for what
Speaker 2: would come next. He did say that middle Gear Solid
Speaker 2: Flour would be a challenge, especially because they probably would
Speaker 2: not be able to do the thing they did with
Speaker 2: with three, which is like let's just apply a code
Speaker 2: of paint on top because the code is so wonky
Speaker 2: for four, that's his words, not mine. Actually he didn't
Speaker 2: say wonky, but that's basically what he said. It is
Speaker 2: also kind of it's like that is going to be
Speaker 2: the marque game in volume two, so people are going
Speaker 2: to be playing the original version of that in some way.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming when the volume two collection comes out here
Speaker 2: in the near future, something they reconfirmed as well. So, yeah, Dan,
Speaker 2: where do they go with middle Gear next? After this,
Speaker 2: especially after like having some space from Delta and being
Speaker 2: able to look around a little bit and be like,
Speaker 2: where should they go?
Speaker 3: I mean, the Pie in the Sky would be one,
Speaker 3: But yeah, one you have to just kind of like
Speaker 3: full on Twin Snake style. But like, like I think,
Speaker 3: I think the coolest thing they could do is a
Speaker 3: full on remake of one, but faithful, you know, I
Speaker 3: like Twin Snakes. A lot of people don't, but I
Speaker 3: do think a full remake of one would be incredible.
Speaker 3: Other than that, you could just do kind of the
Speaker 3: Delta treatment for two. You know, it's the same console,
Speaker 3: probably the same type of you know, backbones on that one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, four, I would just do an order. I
Speaker 3: would just do an order chronologically, so go from three
Speaker 3: to one to two to four, I know I'm skipping
Speaker 3: peace Walker because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I got metal Grass on here, and I
Speaker 3: was tempted to maybe start playing it.
Speaker 2: Uh, peace Walker is the one you want to play
Speaker 2: co op, right, Dan, I do want.
Speaker 3: To try that, just because I've never played peace Walker
Speaker 3: because it was on the fucking PSP. But uh, I
Speaker 3: mean Greg Miller's best game of all time. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: craziest thing he's ever said. And he continues to say, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do want to do co op peace Walker. Her
Speaker 3: on this website with with the compadres.
Speaker 4: All right, I don't know Padres will write again.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's cut scenes with the A comic book.
Speaker 4: Eh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because Hindeo Kojima is busy with his
Speaker 2: new role in Hollywood. Uh in Zutopia two's Japanese dub,
Speaker 2: where he will be replacing a Hollywood star.
Speaker 1: Rmon Is he replacing Roman Reigns or the Zebras? Hold
Speaker 1: in There, hold on There?
Speaker 2: Deo Kojima has confirmed the he voices the character Paul
Speaker 2: Molda Brandt, a mole in the Zutopia Police Department for
Speaker 2: the Japanese dub of Zutopia two. The film, which released
Speaker 2: internationally on November twenty eighth. Blah blah blah. Uh that
Speaker 2: I believe that is the role done by Josh Gadd,
Speaker 2: which confirms what I've always said that Hideo Kojima is
Speaker 2: Japan's Josh Gadd.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying it. It's not brave
Speaker 3: of you to say it.
Speaker 2: Alight, Listen, I think I'm a hero, you know.
Speaker 1: I think Josh Gadd gets.
Speaker 4: A bad rap.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 3: There's going to be a version of this movie where
Speaker 3: it stars at the same time Hideo Kajima, Roman Reigns
Speaker 3: and Seampunk.
Speaker 2: You could probably mishmash that up if you need to.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are the Zebras in that one. They
Speaker 3: are Zebra cops.
Speaker 4: I think together that sounds.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess if you
Speaker 1: watch the credits of the Japanese dub, they would show
Speaker 1: the American voice cast as well, So in one credits
Speaker 1: scroll there'd be Okay, Hideo Kajima and the Zebras. That's
Speaker 1: that's funny to me.
Speaker 2: Okay Horses. The upsetting horror game, previously banned on Steam
Speaker 2: gets Last Minute, banned from Epic Game Store as well.
Speaker 2: The controversial horse horror game Horses has been banned from
Speaker 2: both Steam and the Epic Game Store. Developer Santa Reggione
Speaker 2: reported that Steam banned the game after submitting an unfinished build,
Speaker 2: vaguely citing content guidelines and a rule against depicting sexual
Speaker 2: content involving a minor. So let's hold up, like, what
Speaker 2: is that there is a scene in the game, or
Speaker 2: there was a scene in the game, it's actually been
Speaker 2: changed where a a naked woman with a horse head
Speaker 2: was carrying around a child on her shoulders. And it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be introspective and an illusion. It's a metaphor.
Speaker 2: It is not sexual in traditional terms, but it was
Speaker 2: against steams guidelines, so the game was changed by the developer.
Speaker 2: He made it to adults instead of one of the
Speaker 2: the person on the shoulder being a kid. And Steam's like, well, no,
Speaker 2: too late, you already did it once. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: We're not going to reverse our decision now, even though
Speaker 2: you complied with our guidelines. Epics like, we'll host it,
Speaker 2: we're gonna put you on the Epic Game Store instead,
Speaker 2: and then Epic changed their mind at the very last minute,
Speaker 2: apparently like an hour before it was going to go live,
Speaker 2: they changed it as well. This is like, especially on Steam,
Speaker 2: this has brought up a lot of conversations, like there
Speaker 2: are so many games with like just rampant sex of
Speaker 2: all kinds, characters that appear to like as if they
Speaker 2: could be miners, especially in anime style games. Where's the
Speaker 2: line drawn here? And why is this game that is
Speaker 2: clearly trying to explore something and it is an adult
Speaker 2: game that deals with deep, mature themes. Why is this
Speaker 2: the one that is getting banned from sale threatening the
Speaker 2: chance for this game to actually make any money, because
Speaker 2: if you're not on Steam, you're probably dead on PC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like even folks in
Speaker 1: the chat are pointing this out. But Baby Steps, you
Speaker 1: see a lot of dicks in that game.
Speaker 4: She seems quite a few dicks.
Speaker 1: And I mean, like, you know, a critically acclaimed game,
Speaker 1: probably on the top of my list Dispatch. You see dong,
Speaker 1: you see boobs, and that is they are explicitly to
Speaker 1: having intercourse over there and banging. So I don't see
Speaker 1: how that doesn't cross the line the initial thing of
Speaker 1: a child being involved. I do see that being the issue.
Speaker 1: But if that's been fixed Yeah. My guess here is
Speaker 1: is this is probably due to some international laws. They
Speaker 1: are not international laws in other countries where it's just
Speaker 1: like it is so harsh against any speech that even
Speaker 1: brushes up against this in any way. And then and
Speaker 1: if you violate those laws as a service that provides
Speaker 1: these games.
Speaker 2: From other people, you're pretty protected in America, where it's
Speaker 2: like you are not liable for something that someone sells
Speaker 2: on your store. Typically that's not true everywhere. And so
Speaker 2: the way that epic suddenly was like, oh wait, no,
Speaker 2: we're not doing this either. So that tells me there
Speaker 2: is a lawyer somewhere that saw a law in some country.
Speaker 2: It's like, even if it was ever in there, once
Speaker 2: you're you're taking a chance here for potentially being sued,
Speaker 2: and we just can't do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Unfair for this game, certainly because they try to address
Speaker 2: the issue and it does not seem like it's it's
Speaker 2: actually in the spirit of the rule, But lawyers don't
Speaker 2: don't care about that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Hey, Greb, can I ask the news question?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Please?
Speaker 3: Why was the chat talking about Half Life three in
Speaker 3: December eleventh?
Speaker 2: Uh, there's been ongoing rumors about halflay.
Speaker 3: Three December eleventh is what I saw the chat bringing up.
Speaker 3: So I want to run it through the grub filter
Speaker 3: because that's.
Speaker 1: The Game Awards day, right it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's let's go over here three hours ago
Speaker 2: from screen rant. Let's just read through this and see
Speaker 2: if we can figure it out.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we're geniuses and say it right, Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get the news right here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Being a half Life three fan isn't easy, and it's
Speaker 2: been a struggle for players to keep their hopes alive.
Speaker 2: After constantly being disappointed by leaks and having no official
Speaker 2: confirmation from Valve blah blah blah. A new leak via
Speaker 2: Reddit has many players raising eyebrows suggesting that half Liy
Speaker 2: three is not only in the works, but that an
Speaker 2: announcement is imminent. Further, the leaker, who goes by source
Speaker 2: two leak a, I m L just here, I know
Speaker 2: right that suggests here that half Live three should be
Speaker 2: announced on the eleventh, which also happens to be this
Speaker 2: year's date for the Game Awards.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think if it's done, Reddit, I don't
Speaker 3: think you can put fake stuff on there.
Speaker 2: No, it's against the against the content.
Speaker 4: Yes, soon where like okay, keep going because obviously, like
Speaker 4: leakers are have reputations, right, like there are people who
Speaker 4: garner pedigrees, So like, is this some random prick who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, there's a lot of other people out there
Speaker 2: who are that do have reputations that have been saying
Speaker 2: something's happening soon and a date and that it's this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think that I am buying into Kighley having this
Speaker 2: just because there's like there's been a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: on Steam in the last month referencing games that have
Speaker 2: been nominated for the Game Awards, something they've done before,
Speaker 2: but it just seems really loud this year, like there's
Speaker 2: a strong partnership there. Also, Jeff Keey does have a
Speaker 2: strong relationship with Valve. He did like those twenty four
Speaker 2: hours leading those big stories about Half Life and stuff
Speaker 2: like that back in the day. So and you know,
Speaker 2: one hundred million people watch the game. I know Valve
Speaker 2: doesn't need it. They have the biggest audience in the
Speaker 2: world of people who actually spend money on games on
Speaker 2: their platform. This would be big and splashy, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure Keeley lobbied to get it, So I'm I'm beginning
Speaker 2: to believe I do think Half Life three gets announced
Speaker 2: before the end of the year.
Speaker 4: Really, I'm fully on board with that. Wait now now, okay, now,
Speaker 4: now let's just travel back about three d sixty days. Sure, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I do feel like we were very, very busy
Speaker 4: for Game Awards last year.
Speaker 3: Except for that one. Yeah, But that's my point is.
Speaker 2: That, like, but I think that the way the reason
Speaker 2: I like I jumped on board in that moment as well,
Speaker 2: is I had been hearing about Half Life three pretty
Speaker 2: frequently and then seeing that for people that don't know,
Speaker 2: we kind of saw a sheet that was like a
Speaker 2: bunch of stories that were getting ready to be posted
Speaker 2: or whatever, and that included Half Life three.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's sounds about right now. It
Speaker 4: didn't happen then, but I'm like, well, I think it's
Speaker 4: still in.
Speaker 2: The works, and it's Valve. Who knows when they're actually
Speaker 2: going going to announce this, but everyone must be hearing
Speaker 2: the same things I'm hearing. And now it's that's been
Speaker 2: this whole last month and a half has been those
Speaker 2: stories popping off repeatedly.
Speaker 4: Halfway three is the game is the only game that
Speaker 4: I would ever get excited about an announcement.
Speaker 1: Only excite you.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen if I'm being very specific, okay about like
Speaker 4: a surprise announcement. I don't think there's any other game
Speaker 4: where I would like like stand for my chair and
Speaker 4: be like, wow, that's actually you just said we're going
Speaker 4: to do the talk over.
Speaker 3: I need you to stand on your chair if it
Speaker 3: happens and go.
Speaker 4: Wow, just like that.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna pause the stream and everything.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to stand on my chair, but I
Speaker 4: will stand. Wow. I'm like, wow, they actually did, just
Speaker 4: because it's like it's it's like the one unicorn kind
Speaker 4: of thing, right, you know what I mean? Forever it
Speaker 4: seems like improbable. And even this fucking talk now is like,
Speaker 4: you know, just tickling the plums in a way that
Speaker 4: you're sort of like, hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean a Half Life two is probably my favorite
Speaker 4: game of all time. I think, man, fuck this ship.
Speaker 4: Last year, you guys were just like I remember, I
Speaker 4: remember I could. I went to the awards right and
Speaker 4: you guys were doing the talk over, and I knew
Speaker 4: that like we literally parted ways, Like I went into
Speaker 4: the arena and you guys just drank the kool.
Speaker 3: Aid and you guys true, Oh man, here it comes.
Speaker 4: I want to go back in the discord and just
Speaker 4: see you guys were like, it's really happening. It's really happening.
Speaker 3: I'll right now, if they do announce it by the
Speaker 3: end of this year, I will do a for the
Speaker 3: first time ever, I will play through the entirety of
Speaker 3: Half Life two, and I will do it on this website.
Speaker 4: Oh that's I love that. That's probably the only game
Speaker 4: I know like completely.
Speaker 1: I play it every year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I fucking I fucking love it. I fuck. I
Speaker 4: just think it's also so cursed. I think this whole
Speaker 4: like I can't get excited about it because it's just,
Speaker 4: you know, I just can't the occasion, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. There, I will give you the most genuinely
Speaker 4: ecstatic Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to make commemorate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just call it wow kis.
Speaker 2: Also, I guess been seems like teasing something along the
Speaker 2: lines of Half Life three, But where where would.
Speaker 4: Be like on like Reddit and stuff, Like he's like
Speaker 4: posting all over the place post Yeah, it's all up
Speaker 4: at like four point thirty in the morning, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you guys are gonna believe what I got for you
Speaker 4: at the morning.
Speaker 1: I'm relieved.
Speaker 2: I think he was like there was also like a
Speaker 2: like his Steam account, I had some game attached to
Speaker 2: it that people are like, wait, there's no store page for.
Speaker 4: This, and he was kind of coy about that. I
Speaker 4: don't know if that was confirmed to be something.
Speaker 2: More than what it actually appeared to be.
Speaker 4: But you'll be there, Bud.
Speaker 1: Let's let's see we wowow it happens at the show.
Speaker 1: I will stand up in my seat in the theater
Speaker 1: and loudly go wow, you will. I'm gonna lose my shit,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go it's my birthday.
Speaker 4: It's just so silly.
Speaker 3: Man Hop gonna stand up with his belt and Jane's
Speaker 3: gonna stand up.
Speaker 1: And go wow, and I'm gonna steal his belt.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's only been twenty five years in the
Speaker 4: fucking making, you know, That's all. That's all epicx.
Speaker 2: Tim Sweeney says it makes no sense for game stores
Speaker 2: to flag went AI's shut up. His argument is like,
Speaker 2: it's gonna use Ai, But everyone else's argument is like,
Speaker 2: so like, we don't care, just tell us when you're
Speaker 2: using it. We could still make informed decisions. And he
Speaker 2: didn't really have our argument back against that, and everyone
Speaker 2: was clowning on him like it was like he got
Speaker 2: a cavalcade of people being like, shut up, nerd. It
Speaker 2: was quite a sight to see.
Speaker 4: I don't get his I don't get his point at all, Like,
Speaker 4: what is it hurt to tell us what is being
Speaker 4: used to make a game?
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense, greb.
Speaker 1: You had a brilliant point yesterday when you held up
Speaker 1: a bottle of water and you looked at the ingredients
Speaker 1: sentence like, oh, there's no harm in telling me that
Speaker 1: the ingredients in this bottle of water is water.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like what, Yeah, it didn't hurt anybody.
Speaker 2: Everyone's fully informed about an obvious thing, so what like
Speaker 2: we can move on with our lives and people can
Speaker 2: still make decisions based on that. Paramount is planning a
Speaker 2: mysterious Sonic The Hedgehog movie spin off. Paramount is planning
Speaker 2: a fifth Sonic the Hedgehog movie, an unnamed Sonic Universe feature,
Speaker 2: for release on December twenty second, twenty twenty eight, suggesting
Speaker 2: a spinoff. This follows the fourth Sonic film, set from
Speaker 2: March nineteenth to twenty twenty seven. That's right near my birthday.
Speaker 2: The expansion is and Backlar's birthday. The expansion is unsurprising
Speaker 2: given the franchise, the success highlighted by Sonic the Hedgehog
Speaker 2: three's record bit breaking one billion dollars.
Speaker 1: In global gross last December.
Speaker 2: It's it's massively popular that movie series. All right, So.
Speaker 3: The kids today seeing a Sonic the Hedgehog movie than
Speaker 3: have played Sonic the Hedgehog two for the Sega Genesis.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, yes, well it's not even close. Oh my god, Dan,
Speaker 1: how does it feel that a lot more kids know
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey from Sonic than anything he's ever done.
Speaker 4: That's easy too. Here's the truth, Dan, the movies are
Speaker 4: better than the original video game.
Speaker 1: Oh you stop that, that's true.
Speaker 4: They are. They're they're just like Sonics a better movie character.
Speaker 3: Then he has a video game character. Oh, he's a
Speaker 3: great second Genesis character.
Speaker 1: That's sorry.
Speaker 2: And second, I feel like it's still no Fire Marshall
Speaker 2: build and uh his roll and Sonic the head.
Speaker 3: Shock person that was the biggest Halloween costumers.
Speaker 1: Here is fire Marshall Bench Hunters, and then Fire Marshall Bill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when is Fire Martiall Bill coming to Fortnite?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the color season.
Speaker 2: It's one of the.
Speaker 1: Clown in Fortnite.
Speaker 4: Hold me the clown in Fortnite?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now all right, could be the fly Girls
Speaker 1: in anything.
Speaker 4: But the sound stuff is not surprising though, like right,
Speaker 4: and Ben Schwartz is a fucking treasure who doesn't want
Speaker 4: to party with? Ben Schwartz seems like the light. So
Speaker 4: that's that's the question that it's like, this is a
Speaker 4: spin off?
Speaker 2: Does it not focus on Sonic and they've already done
Speaker 2: They've they've done a spin off of a Knuckles TV show, right,
Speaker 2: So what would this spinoff movie be if it's not
Speaker 2: gonna focus Sonic? And is it like a shadow kits
Speaker 2: as whole?
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves was, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a shadow or yeah, I hope it's
Speaker 4: just a p G. John Wick.
Speaker 3: What if it's like a shadow but it's like a mockumentary,
Speaker 3: like a Waiting for Guffman with shadow?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: I don't know?
Speaker 2: What like that in my head that I want to
Speaker 2: bow Jack Horseman with Bubbs.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. That'd be too fucked up.
Speaker 4: I was gonna We're gonna have the nerve, the bravery
Speaker 4: to do that. No, no one's no one's got time.
Speaker 1: They should throw us in a Sonic movie. There's we
Speaker 1: have no one, but we could just be a bunch
Speaker 1: of chows. Oh my god, a bunch of chows.
Speaker 3: Well, the mclarroy's getting themselves in the trolls. We're gonna
Speaker 3: get a Sonic as a as a bunch of chos.
Speaker 3: But uh, don't have Nadi being because that would drive
Speaker 3: him insane. We just have fos recording a podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the ballan wonder World movie Get out of Here?
Speaker 4: Do we think Shadows got the juice for a Oh?
Speaker 4: I think so yeah.
Speaker 2: I think after that third movie made a billion dollars
Speaker 2: and he was a big part of it. That's that's
Speaker 2: probably what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: Shadow is like Vegeta to children in terms of like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's for grown men. Exactly. He's a bad man, all right, kids.
Speaker 4: Like Shadow because well he had his he he turned
Speaker 4: into the good guy.
Speaker 1: So exactly. That's their first introduction to the trope of
Speaker 1: an like an anti hero, Like does he.
Speaker 2: Use a shoot eagle, Like does he use a shoot
Speaker 2: desert desert.
Speaker 1: In the movie.
Speaker 3: I don't remember in the games like seeing a desert
Speaker 3: eagle in either the film or the video.
Speaker 1: The Shadow I have not seen the movie.
Speaker 3: The chat is saying the shadow is like Steve Austin
Speaker 3: in the movie.
Speaker 1: Is that true? No? Not?
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's more like a like a Red
Speaker 4: john Wick, like a.
Speaker 1: Like a you know, like yeah, yeah, okay, hm, anyway,
Speaker 1: not a lot of.
Speaker 4: Range in Keanu, but still doing the part we need
Speaker 4: him to do.
Speaker 1: I absolutely adore him.
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Steam machines could cost around seven hundred dollars build analysis estimates.
Speaker 2: It's probably story we're gonna keep coming back to until
Speaker 2: we know the price.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Basically the story wise coming out of the announcement is
Speaker 2: it's gonna be priced like a PC. And then they
Speaker 2: people kept asking and valves like it's gonna be like
Speaker 2: priced like if you were to build a comparable PC
Speaker 2: to the performance of this device. So people did some
Speaker 2: math that's build building, like are specing out PC parts
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be around seven hundred dollars. I think
Speaker 2: that's with the caveat that RAM prices could still go
Speaker 2: up and really drive the price of this thing up
Speaker 2: to like seven hundred eight hundred group.
Speaker 4: What did I see about like GPU prices changing though?
Speaker 4: What is so?
Speaker 2: GPUs are just a computer you put inside your computer.
Speaker 2: It has all of the components of a computer inside
Speaker 2: a GPUs. So that RAM, which is actually the faster RAM,
Speaker 2: and it was already more expensive than DDR five rams,
Speaker 2: this is six and six x uh. That is something
Speaker 2: that is going to go. It was already going up
Speaker 2: in price. The big thing that happened. And I just
Speaker 2: I saw this headline when I was checking some like
Speaker 2: financial news because this is like mover and shaker stuff
Speaker 2: in Nvidia apparently is going to stop providing the RAM themselves, right,
Speaker 2: partners that make their GPUs right so in video makes GPUs, sure,
Speaker 2: But what they really do is they designed GPUs and
Speaker 2: then third party partners licensed at the third party partners
Speaker 2: they make the bulk of those.
Speaker 4: Most people have, like you did have an EVGA evg
Speaker 4: A got out while the getting was good.
Speaker 2: They got out before all this nonsense happened. They made
Speaker 2: a lot of it was a lot of made a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. But all those partners that are still
Speaker 2: there are now going to have to source their own
Speaker 2: RAM and and that seems like it's only going to
Speaker 2: cause prices to go up because now there's going to
Speaker 2: be multiple vendors bidding for that same stuff against one
Speaker 2: another to build the same product.
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, that's a nightmare in the making.
Speaker 1: So so say like the AI bubble just explodes tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it would still take years years to recover, and like
Speaker 1: the prices to go to age sustainable.
Speaker 2: So all the investments already happened, right, So all the
Speaker 2: money's spent to build up these plants that manufacture that
Speaker 2: manufacture that stuff. It hasn't just been earmarked, it's it's
Speaker 2: happened already. They've already spent their investment over there. And
Speaker 2: if they if the AI market market exploded, they're not
Speaker 2: suddenly going to have a bunch of money left over
Speaker 2: to go put back in this thing that is more stable.
Speaker 2: They're going to have to just live with what they've done.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: You know, it would probably drive prices down for that
Speaker 2: very that high bandwidth memory, but not enough to make
Speaker 2: a difference immediately for sure. Cool, Well, well that doesn't
Speaker 2: for deadlines. Handing the showback over jan.
Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're gonna go take another quick bricky
Speaker 1: break and we will be back with emails. These are
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Speaker 1: First time longtime Taco Bell recently opened up its first
Speaker 1: location in Ireland, and under the guidance of one Dan Reiker,
Speaker 1: I partook. Here are my thoughts. I was surprised how
Speaker 1: many dishes were some variation of cheese wrapped in a tortilla.
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be surprised the whole deal, including the cheesy rolls,
Speaker 1: which were literally just that and nothing else. I did
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Speaker 1: deny the warm comfort many of these dishes brought. It
Speaker 1: was deeply unchallenging pleasant food. What's more, the dishes were
Speaker 1: accented by some truly sensational dips. Both the lava and
Speaker 1: Jolapano dip did a lot to add a hint of
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Speaker 1: became began to come apart was anytime the dishes moved
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Speaker 1: a visage of actual food. The results were bastard homokula.
Speaker 1: The results were bastard homoculous that were neither slime enough
Speaker 1: to be Taco Bell or real enough to be food,
Speaker 1: Like Pinocchio if frozen halfway through transforming into a real boy.
Speaker 1: These dishes were uncanny and disturbing, half animalph okay, sure
Speaker 1: what came out of my body afterwards made me question
Speaker 1: if I were still human. Love the podcast john Ipatchwolf
Speaker 1: ps its the fact uh ps. If Backlar offers to
Speaker 1: read this in my voice, please do not let him.
Speaker 4: Be a bathroom joke.
Speaker 3: Everyone's made it again. Never had a weird poop after
Speaker 3: taco Bell, eaten Taco Bell thousands of times, No weird
Speaker 3: American stomach. Now my body's used to it. And it
Speaker 3: just knows how to work it absolutely. Also, John, I
Speaker 3: love how he described the food as pleasant and deeply unchallenging.
Speaker 3: And I do want people to describe me that way.
Speaker 4: Now, I mean, she got some work to do, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I strive for you. Of course,
Speaker 1: John sent me a photo.
Speaker 4: Of a of like a table what must have been
Speaker 4: a one hundred and eighty dollars worth of taco Bell.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Well, actually I was gonna make the joke about taco
Speaker 3: bell being cheap, but actually it is actually prett expensive.
Speaker 4: Now, man, what you're doing. Good work, John, You're doing
Speaker 4: the Lord's work. You're doing experimental work. And I'm glad
Speaker 4: a Taco Bell has visited your region of the world.
Speaker 3: He drove like an hour to get there. I told him,
Speaker 3: I gotta get the chicken case of the ead. I'm
Speaker 3: curious to the lava and hal apino dip. Now, they
Speaker 3: do have a bunch of different like when they start
Speaker 3: doing the nuggets and stuff like that, there are different
Speaker 3: like in a little cup, like different avocatta ranch and
Speaker 3: spicy ranch and stuff like that. So I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's a situation like that, because like you mentioned dips.
Speaker 3: He doesn't say sauce. I said, like, oh, make sure
Speaker 3: you get a bunch of fire sauce. Like to me,
Speaker 3: fire sauce is the staple Taco Bell sauce. The Aablo
Speaker 3: Spirain's got kind of a different flavor to it, milds
Speaker 3: too mild. I think fire is exactly the sweet spot there,
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, I agree. I don't know lava was
Speaker 3: that what he said? He said a lava, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean there's diablo. I'm not familiar with the lava sauce.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I've not seen that. That might be you
Speaker 4: like a europe thing. But I've seen the avocado stuff
Speaker 4: that I'm sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean either as someone who really likes Taco
Speaker 7: Bell quite a bit, I think that John's summer summerization
Speaker 7: of like what the experience is dead on like.
Speaker 3: That, except for the poop thing. I think it's for
Speaker 3: your poop is John's body, and.
Speaker 4: It's John's John's body is a temple number one number two.
Speaker 4: Uh Dan, I mean, I'm sorry, but it's it's made
Speaker 4: to poop badly once in your life.
Speaker 3: It's just how I would tell you in great detail if.
Speaker 4: It had I understand. Look, I don't want to. I
Speaker 4: don't want to unpack this, but like you, you eat
Speaker 4: it so much.
Speaker 3: Butler, as a kid growing up, the only time I
Speaker 3: had weird poops was when I would like if it
Speaker 3: was like Thanksgiving and I to eat like real food
Speaker 3: at my grandma's or something about Donald's and Taco Bell
Speaker 3: every fucking day, or you know, party says and hot
Speaker 3: pockets and and poops double tapered perfe.
Speaker 4: I take it back, perfect digestive system, perfect organ perfect system.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the leftovers flogged back Lar,
Speaker 1: but he's kind of.
Speaker 4: A health nut, right which part the blue chips? Double
Speaker 4: fisting fucking seven hundred grams of sugar. I don't understand
Speaker 4: the making. Okay, yeah, exactly, I'm gonna chase this ice
Speaker 4: cream for ice cream so really gross? What I said
Speaker 4: is fine? All right, Yeah, there was there were too
Speaker 4: many hand motions. Those were upsetting. I had to shield
Speaker 4: my son's eyes.
Speaker 1: All right. Well that's that doesn't quite do it for emails.
Speaker 1: We gotta take care of some things after the podcast.
Speaker 1: So general summarization of the emails. Congrats to folks for
Speaker 1: getting jobs. I'm sorry to folks for for getting let go,
Speaker 1: but thank you for tuning into the BombCast. A lot
Speaker 1: of positive sentiment across the board, and I'm very, very
Speaker 1: jazzed about that. I will close off the email segment
Speaker 1: by uh in honor of Cam's homie. Please, please, please
Speaker 1: please go check in on your homies during the holidays.
Speaker 1: While it can be a very happy, celebratory season, for
Speaker 1: some folks, maybe a little bit lonely. So go check
Speaker 1: on the homies out there. Even what you do in
Speaker 1: text type of delio shouts out to the homies out there. Boys.
Speaker 1: What have we got going on the rest of this week?
Speaker 1: It's light because the site is frozen. We got a
Speaker 1: couple quick looks. As we've mentioned several times at the
Speaker 1: tippy top of the show. There is a Metroid Prime
Speaker 1: flour Beyond Review and a little round table up on
Speaker 1: the website and on YouTube right now. Gammus Mornings from
Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday, Friday, correct grub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ready to go, get crew lined up for each
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Z no Blake Club this because mister Minati had to
Speaker 1: go out on a sign Murn grab me.
Speaker 3: We'll be into apsom. We'll do a run this week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's let's do a run in Absolomo. So
Speaker 4: I think we could just beat that game and we'll go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Uh. And then for unprofessional Fridays this week
Speaker 1: we are playing through city Trials. We're gonna do Kirby
Speaker 1: Air Riders, folks. And my dear friend Matt Shipman is
Speaker 1: going to be joining us because he is a sicko and.
Speaker 3: Told me that anime is that game anime?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't put it together, but it seems like it's
Speaker 3: the anime.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Is Metroid Prime four anime. No are you sure?
Speaker 3: No, it's a cool space adventure. It can be animes
Speaker 3: in space.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot, uh, folks. Anything else. We got
Speaker 1: a plugger that I forgot.
Speaker 4: Me and Sean will have an analog three D quick
Speaker 4: look up soon, which I wanted to talk about it
Speaker 4: even more, and we went through all the features, including
Speaker 4: like maybe a good guide of like here's the settings
Speaker 4: you should turn on near the end of that. We'll
Speaker 4: get that up as soon as this upload actually completes.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty big file we did in.
Speaker 3: Four kind like seeing the chants, She says, Dan. One
Speaker 3: of your notes you wrote down was is this game anime? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I forgot in my notes. I took a picture of
Speaker 3: it and posted it and I literally asked if it
Speaker 3: was anime in my notes, So maybe Kurbs anime.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Fantastic, fantastic. Uh yeah, once again.
Speaker 1: Two vlogs came out over the holiday bricky break. Next week,
Speaker 1: we won't be at the Game Awards, so I'll be there,
Speaker 1: but we will have a talk over over that to
Speaker 1: really figure out what the statue of the desert is.
Speaker 1: And so then shouts out to Shut for the new website.
Speaker 1: Shouts out to seanting all this jet Shut shouts out
Speaker 1: to Will Crosby as well for doing our socials. Shouts
Speaker 1: so the homie, he's been Jeff, He's been Jeff, he's
Speaker 1: been Dan, I've been jaded. Mike Manati's somewhere at a rainforest.
Speaker 6: Top right.
Speaker 1: Episode the Giant Bodcast Thingers Goose