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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode forty five

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<v Speaker 1>of a Strange Thing Podcast. Strange Thing Podcast. I'm Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Austin, and we're your hosts for this auspicious occasion.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the austitious occasion, but the auspicious O auspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that word means. I hear you say

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<v Speaker 1>it sometimes, auspicious. Yeah, I don't know. That's a cool word.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are we going to be talking about tonight, Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, like fashion and stuff. Something really lighthearted, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>super calm and it is peaceful, fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually we're going to take on a very heavy subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to try to make it something that even

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<v Speaker 2>though it's heavy, that maybe there's a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 1>Joy that we can bring out of it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it light.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got to. I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>heavy topic. A lot of people, I would say the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the people that are listening to our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>right now are dealing with this in some way or

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<v Speaker 2>know somebody who is dealing with this in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>They've definitely encountered it, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the reason we're going to jump into this

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<v Speaker 2>is we're actually going to go somewhere with it, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start. We're going to start from the

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<v Speaker 2>area where it impacts us personally, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>work backwards to the more strange origins of how this

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<v Speaker 2>might have come to impact us.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so it's starting with reality.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to start right here because you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a personal stake in this right now, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you I do, and I figure, man, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to so many people that have personal stakes in

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<v Speaker 2>this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we being cryptic for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna get there. We're gonna we're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>people what it is. But but yeah, we're being cryptic

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<v Speaker 2>now because it's a heavy topic.

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<v Speaker 1>We're being mysterious. And if we are mysterious, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it, it's gonna get a reaction from people. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to like eliminate or at least kind of

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<v Speaker 2>minimize that reaction by talking about it in this cryptic way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say it real quick, Okay, rib flapping.

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<v Speaker 2>Riboflavin, let's talk. Well, let's say this. This is still

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cryptic, but it's one hundred per cent year.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say misformed protein molecules.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was close when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said misformed protein. Let's talk about that, Okay, but first

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it in a little bit different angle.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, So we've mentioned over the last few

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<v Speaker 2>episodes how I've been going to my hometown and down

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<v Speaker 2>there for a couple of days almost every week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing that to help out my dad. And

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned that my dad is struggling with his memory

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<v Speaker 2>and he's having a hard time, and he was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 2>with dementia or Alzheimer's, and you know, he's not in

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<v Speaker 2>the later stages of it. He's probably in the mid stages.

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<v Speaker 2>So he isn't aware necessarily of how much he's forgotten,

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<v Speaker 2>but most of what he forgets is the here and now.

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<v Speaker 2>He remembers things from the past, but he doesn't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what he did five minutes ago, ten minutes ago, two

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago, two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembers his favorite meal, but not when he had

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<v Speaker 1>it last right exactly. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say, too, my dad's awesome. He is

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<v Speaker 2>such a trooper. And when I go down there, he

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<v Speaker 2>is happy, he's content. For the most part, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>act like he hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a hunky dory kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's very optimistic, and you know, I guess there's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of blessing in that because he doesn't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>How much he's forgotten, and if.

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<v Speaker 2>He does have issues where he thinks about something and

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<v Speaker 2>he wonders about it, he soon forgets it. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of something there that's kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, what would you say, an anesthetic to the

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<v Speaker 2>trauma that could be there if he remembered and knew

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on with himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard somebody say one time, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the cats out of the bag at this point. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our topic is going to be about this whole Alzheimer's

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<v Speaker 1>and dementia thing and.

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<v Speaker 2>The connection of more strange things with it. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>starting here.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I was saying before is I heard somebody

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<v Speaker 1>say one time that their parents have Alzheimer's or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of taking it personally and thinking about how, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they forgot this thing in my life, our kids or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>they just said, it's like being able to make their

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<v Speaker 1>day several times a day. Yeah, instead of it's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can show them the same picture of

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<v Speaker 1>your kids five times and they're still getting that same

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<v Speaker 1>positive reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>They get a joyful reaction every time you show them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true, and the inverse is true too, And you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be careful of this. You do something or

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<v Speaker 2>say something that makes them feel sadness that will happen

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again every time you tell them. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of friends who have dealt with this

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<v Speaker 2>topic in their close families, you know, their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that age.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess where my parents are getting pretty old, and

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of people in their old age that deal

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<v Speaker 2>with either dementia or Alzheimer's or some other kind of

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<v Speaker 2>memory brain malady is quite a high percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I feel like it's going up. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, it sounds very insensitive, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>junior high in high school, like Alzheimer's was a thing

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<v Speaker 1>where people just forget stuff and like, oh, you're you're senile,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you have dementia or you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like you dumbed it down, And it wasn't anything I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever encountered. It was just something we talked about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in like health class or something, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>now it seems like just about everybody I know pretty close,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they have an interaction with this particular illness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, particular this disease, this malady.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's weird because I growing up it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like we talked about it once. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can happen and then just disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and it's a little different than like

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<v Speaker 2>what I was raised with. So, you know, my grandparents

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<v Speaker 2>they lived into their nineties on the on my dad's side,

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<v Speaker 2>and when when they got older, they had a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of I guess she would classify it as dementia

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<v Speaker 2>where they would you know, forget things and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>remember what day it was. But they functioned really well,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they were in their nineties and so

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have like what would be characterized now as

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<v Speaker 2>a diagnosis of Alzheimer's. They would have like a mild dementia.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on my mom's side, my grandma, as she

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<v Speaker 2>got older, she probably had a little dementia too, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of a strange thing, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, she wasn't really degenerative. It wasn't like she

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<v Speaker 2>totally forgot that she was a human. She was able

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<v Speaker 2>to function. She still did things, but.

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<v Speaker 1>She lived in a little world.

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<v Speaker 2>Her world got smaller, but she lived fine in it.

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<v Speaker 2>She would think she was going down to a cafe

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<v Speaker 2>to have coffee, but really she was just walking down

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<v Speaker 2>to a place at the retirement center where she lived,

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<v Speaker 2>and to her that was a cafe because she'd gone

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<v Speaker 2>to a cafe and had coffee every morning of her

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<v Speaker 2>life since she was probably fourteen, and so in her.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind that was what she was still doing, which you'd

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<v Speaker 1>think is kind of biologically beneficial. Yeah, because the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I can take care of my son Bennett the

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<v Speaker 1>way I do is because he can't himself and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the stubbornness yet to confront me on anything

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like. You know, there's kind of like his

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<v Speaker 1>ignorance mixed with my ignorance meshes. And as you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know at that point you're going to not

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<v Speaker 1>have that function and I'm going to have that ability

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<v Speaker 1>to step up, and well it'll mesh. You know, you think,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess biologically or by design it works with degenerative

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<v Speaker 1>and generative they kind of intersect at multiple points throughout

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's life. So you know, forgetting that you're not at

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<v Speaker 1>the diner makes you happy because you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the diner anyway, right, And then it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>easier on your cas because they don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about you not being happy and etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one thing about my dad that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>such a blessing. It could be so horrible, but when

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<v Speaker 2>I go down there, you know, he's pretty happy, and

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<v Speaker 2>he asks about things. He asked about you, he asked

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<v Speaker 2>about other people. So he hasn't got so far yet

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<v Speaker 2>in this process that he doesn't remember anything. He knows

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<v Speaker 2>who I am still, But if he does have Alzheimer's,

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<v Speaker 2>that will degenerate more and more until finally he won't

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<v Speaker 2>know me anymore. He'll just be kind of sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>in a vegetative state. Now, your great grandmother on your

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<v Speaker 2>mom's side had Alzheimer's, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgot those things completely.

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<v Speaker 2>She would sit and she would make noises, but she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't talk anymore. She couldn't communicate, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>really hard deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you know that's one thing as we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this topic, I want to be really sensitive because

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people have experiences, so I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be really sensitive for those. We're gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to have fun, which sounds like it's impossible, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try to have fun. Well, we've got to bring

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<v Speaker 2>joy in the areas where we can find it. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got to bring it out. And if that's just laughter

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<v Speaker 2>or a smile because there's nothing else you can do,

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<v Speaker 2>then so be it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I wanted to get into this topic

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<v Speaker 2>because it is going to connect maybe not this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>but down the road, it's going to connect to our

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<v Speaker 2>topics of other strange things.

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<v Speaker 1>And to clarify, the route we take are other strange things.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not your typical route, and we're not making light

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<v Speaker 1>of these things by taking that route. It's just in

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of a strange thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We take our seriousness pretty seriously, but we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make light of anything by our next avenue. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna we're dealing with this in our real

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<v Speaker 1>life right now, so we're obviously not just dumbing it

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<v Speaker 1>down to be like, well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, honestly, if I if I might say and

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent honest. This is a therapeutic way

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<v Speaker 2>for me to deal with what's going on with my family,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with my dad, what went on with

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<v Speaker 2>my mother in law, went on with my grandparents.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a way for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I see myself getting older, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what's in store for me, and so this is

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<v Speaker 2>a therapeutic way for me to deal with it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want to think about it logically. But I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet. So you said that you think that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Incidence of these kinds of maladies of Alzheimer's and dementia

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<v Speaker 1>It was when you were a kid. I feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it's just my awareness of elderly people and having,

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<v Speaker 1>getting up there in years where when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're you're correct, and it could be that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>be or whatever. But the diagnoses of Alzheimer's, especially early

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<v Speaker 2>onset Alzheimer's, which is Alzheimer's that develops some people before

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And like in the United Kingdom right now, Alzheimer's is

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<v Speaker 2>the number one killer of women.

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<v Speaker 1>In the UK, really the number one.

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<v Speaker 2>The number one kills more people than cancer. It kills

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. In men in the UK it's the

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<v Speaker 1>number two killer, heart disease, number one, I think. So,

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<v Speaker 1>So where's COVID fall into this category? Number nine million?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for this year, it might be the

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<v Speaker 1>Now, even if he had Alzheimer's. But yeah, really got

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't Yeah, I don't know. Okay, let's not go

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But you're right, it is a huge killer

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<v Speaker 2>And by the year twenty forty, they say Alzheimer's will

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<v Speaker 2>be the number one killer in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the entire planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, more people will be dying of Alzheimer's than all cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a projection data thing they like take the past.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, in fact, I'll throw some of the links

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<v Speaker 2>and it has some of that information in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really scary. So sounds terrifying, it is. It's scary

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty forty. That's in twenty well, that's in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years. That's an eighteen nineteen years. Eighteen years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, eighteen years and one day and one day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're tomorrow is Year's Eve, Yeah, the eve of New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve. Yeah, so we're going to see throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>next twenty years. This is going to be a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing strange about Alzheimer's is that it's not treatable yet.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the other things that people die of, heart disease, cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>there are strategies to treat these things. There really isn't

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<v Speaker 2>anything you can do with Alzheimer's. There are drugs that

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<v Speaker 2>say that might kind of slow it down or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that does.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that although although no, this is a funny thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's bring out some joy here, I bring out

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<v Speaker 1>the joy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's actually an article that just those last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Treating elderly people with.

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<v Speaker 2>Dementia and Alzheimer's with viagra. What that actually is. It

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<v Speaker 2>helps their cognitive function and actually it seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of help them to remember better and maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, all that extra blood flow or something. Yeah, something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also heard this is a bad thing because

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, here's a bag of condoms and a bottle of viagra.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so awful, But hey, it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny. That's a terrible recipe. We were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about something, speaking of I get it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound so bad. Yeah, we were just talking about condoms.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't, you were. I'm in a way condoms came up,

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<v Speaker 1>no pun intended in a conversation. And I'm sure people

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<v Speaker 1>have heard this before, but what a terrible name for

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<v Speaker 1>condoms is trojan because like the Trojan horse. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a thing that it did the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>what you were using. This particular device for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Enters the gates and then lets all their buddies, all

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a good metal for surprise are where is

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<v Speaker 1>the egg? Okay, all right, all right, Grandma, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>where is the egg?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe I was going to have to describe

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<v Speaker 2>the birds and the bees to you again.

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<v Speaker 1>How this works here? You have this blanks were grinding.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs were so yeah, but anyway, okay, let's go back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about serious stuff here. So, yeah, Alzheimer's is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the number one, and I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about early onset. Early onset can start like in the thirties,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can go all the way to sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you have Alzheimer's that is diagnosed later in life,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just called Alzheimer's, and those two together will

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<v Speaker 2>claim more lives than any other disease or any other reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Projection is, Yeah, that's great. By twenty forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's not fun to think about. But okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk a little bit about Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's different than like some other brain maladies, but

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<v Speaker 2>it has similarities to some things that are really awful diseases.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not really like drain damage related.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what it is and they're learning more all the

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<v Speaker 2>time and they're starting to make connections and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, it's a misshaped protein inside of a

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, it folds in on itself and then

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<v Speaker 2>when it does that, it affects other proteins inside the

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<v Speaker 2>these masses called fibrils. Fibrils, I think they called amyloids amyloids.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens is the name of these fibrils.

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<v Speaker 2>that they call amyloids, and they basically destroy the cell.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like an avalanche. It's like an exponential explosion. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like they affect other cells, and those affect other cells,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually the patient's brain and nervous system is affected

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<v Speaker 2>and they expire because they lose their ability to control

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<v Speaker 2>the neural pathways to all of the important organs of

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<v Speaker 2>horrible death. I mean people who have had Alzheimer's and

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<v Speaker 2>watch their loved ones slowly lose their memories and then

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<v Speaker 2>lose themselves. It's really really sad. But it's a process

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<v Speaker 2>that can take years, and then there's like the early

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<v Speaker 2>gets worse and worse until finally they die. That process,

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<v Speaker 2>that physiological process, is still a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Those proteins inside of a cell suddenly decide to fold

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<v Speaker 2>over on themselves, yes, and basically kind of activate. They

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<v Speaker 2>deform and activate, and then they're not sure how all

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<v Speaker 2>that spreads out to the other cells around it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's progressive, you know. Some of it they think is genetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it could be environmental. You know, the food

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<v Speaker 2>you can get online and find all kinds of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it's disinformation. People trying to sell products that

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<v Speaker 1>Crystals, crystals, I mean everything, and you know, the to Alzheimer's,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's just taking people at their sickest

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<v Speaker 1>for their money. Yeah, that's they're most desperate. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>about like those telemarketers. Yeah, it's like you worry about

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<v Speaker 1>that about like grandpa. He's like, hey, we need your

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh no, my car warranty. And then next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like, oh, well, what terrible are people?

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like the guy who came and sold my

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<v Speaker 2>dad a vacuum. He doesn't even have carpet in the

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<v Speaker 1>He's got central vac He's got a central vacxis, which

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<v Speaker 1>is better than a dorky little closet sells.

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<v Speaker 2>Them like a what was it, a four thousand dollars vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually went after the guy and got dad's money.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, did you we did? With a baseball back. I wish,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was, you know, this was a while, so

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<v Speaker 2>he hadn't made very good decisions, but he was aware

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<v Speaker 2>and then we were able to go after the guy

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<v Speaker 2>But that clued us into something was wrong, along with

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that my dad, who used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>And totaled his car. Yeah, I kind of remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And then we found out that my dad he owned

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<v Speaker 1>Nice stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dad was kind of unaware of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>oh random, like maybe a Saturday, I'll take you all

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<v Speaker 1>to Wendy's. We'd go to Wendy's and he'd harass some

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<v Speaker 1>and then he'd say, you get four dollars. Yep, you

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<v Speaker 1>a pick wisely four items.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like chicken nuggets and chicken nuggets, french fry, frosty

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<v Speaker 1>every time. You do that with me too.

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<v Speaker 2>But he'd take it somewhere and he'd say, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>buy your hamburger. Yeah, and you and your sister can

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<v Speaker 2>split a fry.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want a drink, your own drink. You're buying

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<v Speaker 1>your own Yep. That's what he did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was a penny pincher, but all of a

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<v Speaker 1>And Kelly if you're listening, but he's just cousin in law. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>cousin second. I'm not sure how that works. Hunting Buddy

425
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen.

426
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, or some tony old hunting buddy, But anyway,

427
00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>that's a different story. But Russell came up and he

428
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go up in the South Hills and I

429
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 2>think ride his bike or something, and so he borrowed

430
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>my dad's little pickup and he went up in the

431
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 2>South Hills and he was coming back and he got

432
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 2>pulled over because he had expired plates. And not only

433
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:39.079
<v Speaker 2>were the plates expired, but they had been expired for

434
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>like two years. So the cop was nice and let

435
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 2>him go, and he came home and told us the story,

436
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.160
<v Speaker 2>and we got looking. All of the car's license plates

437
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>had expired. The registrations were.

438
00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Like old, great, and We're like, what in the world

439
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is going on? This is so unlike my dad. So

440
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>those were the first cues.

441
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, at the time, my mom was alive, and so

442
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:04.720
<v Speaker 2>she was making up for the forgetfulness that he had.

443
00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she covered a lot. But when my mom

444
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>passed away, all of a sudden, we were thrown right

445
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:14.599
<v Speaker 1>into the reality that my dad wasn't Something wasn't right

446
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 1>with my dad anyo. And the trauma probably losing he

447
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>experienced too, probably was a little bit of a kickstarter. Maybe. Yeah.

448
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I think all of that together are a perfect storm.

449
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, now March forward, three years and here we are,

450
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm going down because my dad, he still

451
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 2>thinks he goes out and drives his truck and mows

452
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.839
<v Speaker 2>the yard and pitters around outside in the yard and

453
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.400
<v Speaker 2>fixes things in the corrals and that kind of stuff.

454
00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.640
<v Speaker 2>My dad hasn't gone outside and done anything like that

455
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:53.480
<v Speaker 2>for probably two years, but in his mind he does

456
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>it every day. And in his mind he goes to

457
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.160
<v Speaker 2>church every Sunday. He probably hasn't gone to church for

458
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>a year. And as far as like, you know, he

459
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't dress. You know, he wears sweats and T shirts

460
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.279
<v Speaker 2>and the same ones until finally you you have to

461
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:13.400
<v Speaker 2>like totally kind of fight him to get in to

462
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.319
<v Speaker 2>take a shower because he in his mind he thinks

463
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 2>he's showering all the time.

464
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 1>Luckily, he's got a box of a strange thing T

465
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>shirts in his basement to go through.

466
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I left a box of our shirts there and he

467
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 2>found them, and yeah, that was a treasure. He wear

468
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>a new one every day, perfect. Yeah, yeah, good times.

469
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 2>In fact, we installed some cameras in like some of

470
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the most common areas of Dad's house so we could

471
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of make sure he doesn't fall and hurt himself

472
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.519
<v Speaker 2>or do something bad. I see him walking around in

473
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.319
<v Speaker 2>the strange thing t shirts all the time, and it

474
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>just makes me have a warm Fuzzy's sportive.

475
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my dad loves our show. He's never heard it,

476
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>but he loves our shot. No he has. He has

477
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 1>listened to it as Yeah, the because he was on

478
00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah, we had him do. Little Orphanani Finana

479
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.599
<v Speaker 1>hind our house to stay to wash the dishes and

480
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>wipe the cobwebs away. I'm gonna play it right here.

481
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Little or Fananni by an old guy named John when

482
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>he learned it in the fifth grade. Many years beyond,

483
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 3>here we go, Little Orfananti comes to our house to

484
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 3>stay to wash the cups and saucers up and brush

485
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the crumbs away, to shoes and chickens off the porch,

486
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 3>and clean the hearth, and make the beds in her

487
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>board and keep and all this other children. When the

488
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 3>supper dishes are done, we sit around the kitchen fire

489
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>and had the most is fun listening to the ghost tails,

490
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 3>and said Granny Tael about and the gobblins that get

491
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 3>you if you don't watch out. There was a little

492
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 3>boy who never said his prayers and he had to

493
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 3>go to bed, and way upstairs, his mama heard him holler,

494
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.039
<v Speaker 3>and his pappy heard him scream, And when they turned

495
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 3>the covers down, he wasn't there at all. They seeked

496
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 3>him in the rafter room and cubby hole and press.

497
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 3>They seeked him in the living room and everywhere, I guess,

498
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>but all they ever found of him was his pants

499
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 3>and roundabout. And the goblins will get you if you

500
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.359
<v Speaker 3>don't watch out. There was a little girl who always

501
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 3>laughed in grin and made fun of everyone in all

502
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 3>her blood and kin. And once when there was company

503
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>and all folks was there, she mocked them, and she

504
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.720
<v Speaker 3>shocked them and said she didn't care at this. She

505
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 3>kicked her heels to start to run and hide. There

506
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 3>was two big old black things that standing by her side.

507
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 3>They snatched her through the ceiling before she knowed what

508
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 3>she was about. And the goblins will get you if

509
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't watch out, little arf, And Nanni says, when

510
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the blaze is blue and the lamp sputters and the

511
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>wind goes woo, you better mind your parents and your teachers.

512
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Fond the deer and cherish him to love you, and

513
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>dry the orphan's tear and help the poor Aniti that

514
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 3>cussed her all about. Or the goblins will get you

515
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 3>if you don't watch out.

516
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I love that. That's a great poem.

517
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>He used to tell that around the campfire, and it

518
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>would scare the crap out of me.

519
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of fires at his house too.

520
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he liked to have bonfires.

521
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the woodstove in the basement. Yep, so we

522
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was in charge. I was fireman, fire starter.

523
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe that was my job the half of my

524
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>life at least.

525
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and carrying wood in from the outside and stuff.

526
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 1>And you'd always be like, you get three matches. Yes,

527
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, you can't start the fire. And three matches,

528
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 1>your whole family's going to freeze to death. I had

529
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>a canned propane torch man. No, I was gonna light

530
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that secret. I didn't even need newspaper. I just burn

531
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the wood. Nice.

532
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, here are the good things, the

533
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 2>good memories again about it, very serious and sad topic.

534
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 2>One thing about it is, you know, if you love

535
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>your relatives or the person that you're dealing with, it's

536
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>going through this stuff. You've got to like saturate your

537
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>life with these good memories, right because if you don't,

538
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it's so discouraging and it could be so overwhelming, and

539
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard. It's a lot of work. It's a lot

540
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 2>of work. I mean, I know there are a lot

541
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of husbands that are dealing with that with their wives,

542
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of wives that are dealing with that

543
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>with their husbands, and they don't know how long they

544
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>can keep it up and keep doing it, because at

545
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>some point they're going to have to go into a

546
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>home where somebody can keep them clean and fed so

547
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they don't hurt. And I think that's the biggest thing

548
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>right now where I'm at, we're walking this line. We're

549
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep Dad in his house where he's comfortable

550
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>and where he kind of knows where he's at, because

551
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>we know as soon as we take him away and

552
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>put him someplace where he's not aware, then all of

553
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's going to be hard, and at some

554
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 2>point they're going to have to make that hard decision.

555
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>My loved one is going to be better off somewhere

556
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>where people can help them twenty four to seven, where

557
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>they can make sure that they're getting fed and they're

558
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>not sitting there in soiled clothes and getting bed sores.

559
00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>And that is such a hard thing because I mean,

560
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>this is the person you care about and love.

561
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, especially in not to be like too personal,

562
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>but in this situation that you're dealing with, we're dealing

563
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>with it's like his homestead. It's like, is a lot

564
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 1>of his memories, maybe most are in this house.

565
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>They built that house in nineteen sixty five.

566
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was a it was a big lot. Yeah,

567
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 1>I've got more memories there than most places in my life. Yeah,

568
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>me too, I bet you that place is. Honestly, that

569
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>house is probably the most constant thing that I've had

570
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>as far as memories go. Christmas and because we moved

571
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot, our family did, we'd always go there for

572
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 1>We'd always go there for Christmas and holidays. Plus we

573
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lived there for a while, we did, and I'd always

574
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>shoot my baby guns there, So I have a lot

575
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of memories there. I can't imagine having built had one

576
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of your.

577
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Most terrifying memories there of the children of the corn

578
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 2>next door afraid.

579
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you were a child of signs.

580
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there was an alien running through there and

581
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you were afraid. Well yeah, but yeah, that's the place

582
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>where all of my dad's memories are tied. Well not

583
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>all of them, but you know, the vast majority of

584
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>his memories took place in those in that location.

585
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify, we've told the Signs story, right, I

586
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think so? Yeah, long story short. I was what how old?

587
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Nine nine nine? This movie Signs with Mel Gibson came out.

588
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Really good movie. It is really really good movie. And

589
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the aliens are actually demons. The angels are demons. The

590
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>aliens are demons.

591
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh the aliens you said angels. Yeah, but that's okay.

592
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 1>The aliens are demons. And I've kind of figured that

593
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 1>out over the years, which made it even probably more scary.

594
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But we lived on a cornfield and this movie takes

595
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 1>place around a cornfield, and we drove home from that

596
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>movie and it.

597
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Just was so the room that you lived in at

598
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the time, you could like open the curtains and look

599
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 2>out and stare at a field of corn Yep.

600
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just it was bad. I remember that. That

601
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>was so funny. Yeah, traumatized. Maybe the first and only

602
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>movie I've been actually scared of, because I've been pretty

603
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 1>brave in movies. Jurassic Park, when I was like two.

604
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Well that one was like a creep fest. I mean

605
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was jump scare and like many little

606
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like the hand that comes out of under the door. Oh,

607
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 1>the grabs the kid on the face and.

608
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>And tried to inject the the whatever poisonous gas in

609
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and whatever it is. And then the other hand that

610
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>comes out underneath the door and he chops.

611
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>The fingers off, and then later that one comes back. Yeah,

612
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't wasn't he the director or the writer m I

613
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Shyamalan Shyamalan, Shamalama ding Dong Shamelo ding Dong. Yeah, yeah,

614
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he was the guy that owns the house

615
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>that was in it. And that's the game jack, the

616
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 1>guys that locked it in the pantry, locked in the pantry.

617
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, No, we're doing our typical what

618
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>we got criticized for by Parrot sixty nine.

619
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>That's her name, poly Poly sixty nine, Parrot sixty nine.

620
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that.

621
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a thing that sticks my brain. But anyway,

622
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 2>what were we talking about?

623
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Signs? Signs signs?

624
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

625
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.319
<v Speaker 2>I was saying that that's the place where all my

626
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>dad's memories were. Yep, this this farm that you know,

627
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it was like forty eight years. It wasn't a huge farm.

628
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I vaguely remember us loading up a fully decorated Christmas tree. Yeah,

629
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>the back moving into that house. It was like the

630
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 1>first thing to come out was a Christmas tree. Yeah,

631
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>it was right at the very back of the evil. Yeah.

632
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 1>That was crazy. And we went through a heck of

633
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a snowstorm getting back to I lost a bumper. Okay,

634
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>see what happened. We're going again?

635
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right, what did that parrot say that

636
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 2>we did?

637
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, we tell the waitress our birthday or something. No,

638
00:33:58.440 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the waitress doesn't need to know it.

639
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but.

640
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Because we what do we do? We pontificate? No, she

641
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>had a word defecate.

642
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>No, it was a word that she used that we were.

643
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not cynical, not idiotic. We just go off like

644
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>we just did twice. What did she call that?

645
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Quirky? Quirky?

646
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said we're quirky and we were just being quirky. Okay, yeah, okay,

647
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>so okay, we yeah, we're.

648
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Quirked, swinging like a ricket ball. Oh that's it's getting nice.

649
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, now we got to get back to it.

650
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>We got to get back to it, Okay, So you

651
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>were trying to keep this lighthearted.

652
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So back to the whole topic of Alzheimer's.

653
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>People are going through this stuff and right now, millions

654
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 2>of people are dealing with this right now just like me,

655
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and some of them are We're just starting on this

656
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>journey of Alzheimer's care and some are like towards the end,

657
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and it is hard. It is rough, and I just

658
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 2>want to say, my heart goes out to you because

659
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I feel it right now. And your grandmother on mom's side,

660
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>she had Alzheimer's and watching that progression was so awful.

661
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Our good friends their mom died of Alzheimer's. We watched

662
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 2>that whole progression. My wife's grandma, we watched her die

663
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>of Alzheimer's and she was probably one of the worst

664
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>ones because she sat so long in a facility with

665
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 2>no brain ability at all, and trying to give her

666
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>a quality of life was so hard. And you know,

667
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>watching people lose their loved ones while they're still alive.

668
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Is so hard.

669
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>There are other diseases out there like als We've had

670
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>that in our family, Louke Gary's disease, and in that one,

671
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you lose your boy, but your brain still works.

672
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean that's a horrible disease. It's just it's

673
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>just people deal with so much.

674
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a wonder in this life that we can even

675
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>have optimism and joy.

676
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

677
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Throw on top of that, not to be all Debbie

678
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 1>down or like our last episode was, well we can

679
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 1>go down a little bit. Throw on top of all

680
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. We've got COVID, COVID, we've lost family

681
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 1>members to COVID and our family anyway, and uh, throw

682
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, it's the holidays and you're remembering

683
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 1>all these things.

684
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what the what the flip? Yeah, But anyway,

685
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to get too down because I am optimistic.

686
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have hope. You know, one thing here,

687
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>here's it. Let's do a little side trail. Here, another another.

688
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this is a stream side trail. Okay, okay,

689
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>this is a this is a pontification side trail that

690
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I wonder about.

691
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So, say you are getting older like me.

692
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 2>And you have this physiological protein is issue where they're

693
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>they're defective, deformed, and they form these fibrils and and

694
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>your brain starts turning into mush. The neurons are encased

695
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.320
<v Speaker 2>in some kind of hard things, so they're not functioning

696
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>right and firing right, and you can't remember anything, and

697
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 2>then you throw in your whole spirituality. Okay, what happens

698
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to your soul? If you're a person that believes in

699
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 2>this soul?

700
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 1>What happens to your soul depends on what you believe.

701
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess I know. But have you ever really thought

702
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>about it?

703
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Kind of?

704
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean I kind of have too, but never in

705
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>this kind of current type of situation. I'm wondered, Like, Okay,

706
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>you go out and you get in a car wreck

707
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're.

708
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>In a coma and then you die.

709
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, where's your soul at while you're in a coma?

710
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

711
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I see, where's like the purgatory? Yeah, transition.

712
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 2>But like when your brain's gone and you have no

713
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>cognitive function or very little, like my dad right now,

714
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 2>who doesn't remember everything, where is his soul? I mean,

715
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>what's his responsibility as far as.

716
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>His morality goes?

717
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, all these things you wonder about because your

718
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>essence of who you are is wrapped up in all

719
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>of these memories and thoughts and your actions. But all

720
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden that changes because of the physiology that's

721
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 2>taking place inside of the molecules in your brain. So

722
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>where's your soul at during this?

723
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean, and I've thought about that before,

724
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 1>not in Alzheimer's perspective, But let's say you're a forced

725
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 1>recon marine that gut sure domed. Yeah, and you have

726
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>just brain blown up in a hummer and you're you've

727
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 1>got drain damage and your frontal lobe is busted and

728
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just now you're violent. Now, you're you have no patience,

729
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 1>your your personality aggressive, and you're yourself for a little while.

730
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 1>But you can't control these urges to do these other things,

731
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, or to have these reactions to things. You know,

732
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>like that movie American Sniper. He goes and like tries

733
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 1>to kill a dog because it was barking at a kid.

734
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's a nice guy, he's a good guy. But

735
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:29.039
<v Speaker 1>then his brain flips. Yeah, where's his soul if that's

736
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>what you believe in, where's his humanity or his consciousness?

737
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Because is he just different now? Yeah? Or is he himself?

738
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And and part of him is a way?

739
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 3>You know?

740
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're getting at? Kind of?

741
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

742
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>But then I think about too, like say my wife's

743
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>grandma who sat in a chair basically mindless.

744
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 1>For for a year.

745
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Where was her soul is? I wonder, you know sometimes

746
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>is it there? Is it processing correctly, but because of

747
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the the interface to the dimension, she can't articulate. So

748
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>she's there scene everything behind this veil, but she's unable

749
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to interact with it, or is she just does her

750
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>spirit go somewhere else where. She's not even enduring this

751
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>trauma of seeing herself in such an incapacitated state.

752
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It's more like her body's there, and her consciousness is.

753
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Somewhere else right, an empty shell that's still alive, but

754
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>yet maybe the spirit, the essence of who she is

755
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>is no longer there.

756
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>See, I don't know, that's very weird. I never thought

757
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of that. I've wondered that, you know, how that works.

758
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of wondered, you know, I've thought about life

759
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 2>as kind of like we are in this this well,

760
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 2>for lack of a better word, this matrix, and we

761
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>have a connectability to this matrix through this interface called

762
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 2>our flesh, our body, right, and if that is discombobulated,

763
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>if that's messed up or broken, then.

764
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 1>We can't communicate through it.

765
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Anymore into this three D space, into this dimension, right,

766
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 2>but maybe we're still aware of it behind that veil.

767
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like if you were looking through a TV

768
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>signal and you can see what's going on through the

769
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 2>TV monitor. Maybe it's black and white or maybe the

770
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe the picture cuts out altogether, but you still get

771
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the audio feed.

772
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I picture it kind of like, so you finished

773
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a level in a racing game like Super Mario Kart. Okay,

774
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you finish the level, but it still makes another lap

775
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and you can't control it, but Mario still is going

776
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 1>around the track as you watch, like who came in first,

777
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 1>who came in second? So you're in this other screen basically,

778
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 1>but in the background, is Mario still going around this track?

779
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

780
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I guess I kind of get where you're going. It's

781
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>really hard to explain what I kind of wonder is.

782
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we are living in, for lack of

783
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 2>a better word, of matrix and our understanding of what

784
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>happens in this matrix, because it's the only thing we've

785
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>experienced so far is here now, but it's only the

786
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 2>smallest percentage of what we really are and who we

787
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 2>are and where we are. You know, they say that

788
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 2>mathematically we live in ten dimensions. There are ten dimensions,

789
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>but we are only aware of three, maybe four if

790
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you throw in time. So I kind of wonder if

791
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 2>those other six dimensions that's the real manifestation of who

792
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>we are and where we are, or at least the majority.

793
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>And so the connectivity to this fleshly body we have

794
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>is our neurons and our brains and everything else.

795
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>But if you think about it, the memories.

796
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:02.480
<v Speaker 2>The essence of who we are isn't that snaps firing.

797
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It's somewhere else. Because as we get older and have

798
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>more experiences, our brains don't get heavier because there's more input.

799
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's offloading. It's like riding on a hard

800
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>drive somewhere, and that information is stored somewhere else other

801
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>than inside.

802
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 1>The hard drives in the right.

803
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's there, it's out there, And I kind of

804
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>wonder if our spirit's kind of like that. And so

805
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 2>when our body goes night, night goes away, our essence

806
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>moves away from it, And I wonder if that maybe

807
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>is what's happening, that connectivity to this world, this dimension,

808
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 2>this matrix is severed, But at the same time, the

809
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>essence of who we are still there. So I think

810
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>about if my dad, who's losing some of that cognitive ability,

811
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>but somewhere he's still seeing me and everybody else love

812
00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>him as much as we are to help him through

813
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 2>these hard times, and that its stored away for him,

814
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 2>so it blesses him, you know, in the same sense

815
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 2>for people that sit there alone, what a trauma that

816
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>would be to be aware that there's nothing to nobody

817
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>for them.

818
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just went really sad. Yeah, ok, sorry. So

819
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is it's like sinking your iPhone to

820
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the cloud, and you've got it plugged into your hard

821
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>drive as well on your computer, which I don't think

822
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 1>people do anymore. You're supposed to with iPhones having ye,

823
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 1>but I think you're you're also dumping a lot of

824
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 1>information onto this hard drive and then that is getting

825
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 1>saved to the cloud, and it's like you have a

826
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 1>really long bad Internet connection with Alzheimer's or dementia. Your

827
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>consciousness is getting moved up to the cloud, but it

828
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is still partly on your phone.

829
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 2>We throw this in right there, your hard drive gets

830
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a virus. Oh yeah, so it's destroying what's on your

831
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 2>hard drive. But all your information is uploaded to the cloud.

832
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and then maybe you cannot maybe you cannot

833
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>download that to that infected machine anymore your body. And

834
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess that kind of fits the whole

835
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 2>virus thing, especially with COVID, right, yeah, Or if you

836
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>want to even talk about what we started this concept with,

837
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>which is Alzheimer's and that protein that suddenly deforms and

838
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 2>causes this avalanche of more deformed proteins. And then in

839
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the end, you know, after the person dies and expires,

840
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>they can they can take that brain, dissect the brain

841
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 2>and they can see there are like these hard casings

842
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 2>around all the neural network stuff, and like it's the

843
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>brain is like not normal, it's not right, you know,

844
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of taking us to the point where

845
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.119
<v Speaker 2>we connect to the other strange things that we are

846
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 2>getting to. I wanted to talk about the Alzheimer's part

847
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.599
<v Speaker 2>because it's a personal part of what's going on.

848
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

849
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, you said it's like a venting therapy session.

850
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's gonna connect and it connects really well

851
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to this thing.

852
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And we mentioned it on our.

853
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Podcast two episodes ago. These things called prions Yeah, not shrimp, no,

854
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 2>not not shrimp. Some people actually call them preons.

855
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I like prion. I like saying prion, that'll star galactical.

856
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can get online and ask for the pronunciation

857
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and you'll find it both ways, prion or preon. But anyway,

858
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 2>a preon or prion is basically the same thing. It's

859
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a deformed protein. It's a protein that at one time

860
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 2>is normal and for some reason it gets activated and

861
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>it folds on itself, and then all of a sudden,

862
00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>from that there is an explosion of deformed proteins that

863
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 2>arrive in its wake. It like infects everything else on.

864
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>It just explodes and it just radiates through the entire

865
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>nervous system. Nervous system. It's crazy too, because we've talked

866
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 1>about it off the MIC a little bit before, and

867
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we've noticed that there's not just enough take in people,

868
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but there's n ough take in animals too. Having this

869
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a similar type of response to something, maybe not response,

870
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 1>but a similar disorder or a similar protein, And yeah, so.

871
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You want to roll back in time and jump from

872
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 2>there's a similarity, and they're finding a bigger similarity all

873
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 2>the time between Alzheimer's cases and cases of prion infection,

874
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 2>which is called crush filled jakov disease CJD.

875
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>That will stick with CJD. Yeah, CJD.

876
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So basically what it is, it's a protein molecule

877
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 2>they call it a prion. Something activates it and it

878
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>de and it goes really really faster the entire nervous

879
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 2>system in the body, and they die.

880
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Rapidly, kind of like small scale or like internal cancer.

881
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Which is kind of the difference between Alzheimer's and CJD,

882
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>which is that CJD is very rapid, where Alzheimer's can

883
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 2>take years years and years and it's slower where CJD

884
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 2>is very rapid, like people do within a year. And

885
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I got online to watch some videos, and oh, my gosh,

886
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it's such a horrible thing because people aware that's something

887
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>wrong because a lot of times it have infects their

888
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>physiological ability to move their arms and their hands, and

889
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 2>so they know that something DRAMs off and they're they're shaken, weird,

890
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and they're doing strange things.

891
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And it is horrible. Yeah, don't watch videos about that.

892
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I mean I almost I almost,

893
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like yesterday like pulled a plug in this whole thing,

894
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Like this is too dark.

895
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go here.

896
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 2>CJD cases are still happening and they're rare, but at

897
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>one point there was an outbreak of it, but we'll

898
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>get into that in.

899
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Our next episode.

900
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the prion disease CJD is very very scary because

901
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>it is not only rapid, but.

902
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 1>It is very contagious, contagious. It is contagious, which is

903
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I talked a while back about Jurassic Park yep, I

904
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 1>think it was Jurassic World, the second book. They go

905
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to an island where there's a high density of predators

906
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and they can't figure out why that there's more predators

907
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>than herbivores or whatever, and doctor Malcolm Jeff Goldbloom he

908
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 1>basically somehow finds out that they were feeding all the

909
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>dinosaurs' lamb protein or something to keep them healthy, and

910
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that was giving them prions and then that was causing

911
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the dinosaurs to die younger, which allowed more like scavengers

912
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.199
<v Speaker 1>and predators to be around. Yeah, basically, it's like a

913
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>similar thing.

914
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 2>It's just well and that's kind of another interesting thing

915
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 2>about CJD is that that's another way you can get it.

916
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You can get it through like human growth hormone or

917
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:16.599
<v Speaker 2>like corneal transplants, or like surgeries that was surgery on it,

918
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>like a nervous system or something where the implements weren't

919
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>sterilized enough. And that's another thing about prions are really

920
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 2>really really hard to kill.

921
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Crazy.

922
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 2>So another way you can get it is by eating

923
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>contaminated meat like hamburger. Like hamburger picture from your pick

924
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 2>your mammal. Yeah, basically any kind of creature can get

925
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>some kind of pryonic malady where they have I mean

926
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 2>it's mad cow disease. It's also scrapy and cheap or

927
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 2>wasting disease, and deer and elk and moose. No, yeah,

928
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>it's all the same kind of thing. But it's the

929
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:57.559
<v Speaker 2>prionic protein.

930
00:50:58.320 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

931
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.559
<v Speaker 2>So which we should say what the origin and prion?

932
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what the origin of prion is? Aliens?

933
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>The word how do they get the word prion? Pry

934
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to lift, using leverage on a top something, use leverage

935
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 1>to get on top of something. I don't know.

936
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 2>It actually comes from protonaceous infectious particle and that's where

937
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 2>they developed the word prion or preon.

938
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so pr protonaceous I infectious particle particle I

939
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know where they get the like ion.

940
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>They mix it all up. Yeah, yeah, but anyway it

941
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 2>comes from that. That's that's where they get the word

942
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>priony or preon. And I don't know why that's important,

943
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, it has.

944
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>To do with protein protonaceous. It's the protein that deforms

945
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and I did a little research on it. And what's

946
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>weird about it in prions and also in Alzheimer's because

947
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing.

948
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a protein molecule that the forms and causes these hard,

949
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>rigid structures called fibrils, and these things basically clog up

950
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 2>the works in Alzheimer's, but in pryonic diseases like CJD,

951
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it basically destroys the cells and they leave these holes

952
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 2>inside the brain. It's sponge like.

953
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>That's why they call, you know, this disease mad cow disease.

954
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 2>They call it a bovine sponge form encephalopathy.

955
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Really what it's called. Yeah, it's a hell of a name.

956
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 1>It is so mad. The disease is similar to ced JD.

957
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean, because it's a protein molecule that deforms.

958
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 2>It does the same thing. But anyway, that's we're going

959
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 2>to get into that in future episodes. I wanted to

960
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:53.280
<v Speaker 2>keep this one up towards Alzheimer's because that's kind of

961
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 2>how this whole thing started for me, because of my dad.

962
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Then I saw this article, this connection between cattle mutilations,

963
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 2>UFO abductions and prions and Alzheimer's, and that kind of

964
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 2>clicked all these things together. It was like, I couldn't

965
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>quit thinking about this stuff, right.

966
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And you were like, Dad, what are you doing? This

967
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is all really stupid stuff. I didn't say that. It's

968
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>really not very fun about. It's not sasquatches, it's not.

969
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 1>It's but in some ways it's it's more nefarious. Take

970
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 1>a drink.

971
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Take a drink if you're playing or drinking it, which

972
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>we haven't said for a long time. If you do drink,

973
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 2>drink responsibly.

974
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, I said, what are the like phases

975
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of Alzheimer's? Well, as far as I understand, they've broken

976
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>down the stages of Alzheimer's into basically seven different stages,

977
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and the first one is no impairment. I mean that

978
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, right, and that could happen, you know.

979
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen twenty years before anything starts, and then you have

980
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:01.679
<v Speaker 2>very you know, very mild cognitive decline, and then the

981
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 2>next would be mild cognitive decline, and then you have

982
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 2>moderate cognitive decline, and that could also be classified a

983
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of times as early stage dementia.

984
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.840
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty general. Yeah, you kind of can see it's

985
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 1>just a progression. It seems like.

986
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Then you have moderately severe cognitive decline, which is the

987
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 2>early mid stage of dementia, and then you have severe

988
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>cognitive decline, which is late mid stage dementia. And then

989
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>you have very severe cognitive decline, which is late stage dementia.

990
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, my dad is probably what he'd probably be in,

991
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like the he'd be in the severe cognitive decline right

992
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 2>now because he can't remember five minutes ago.

993
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Right when you go and talk to him, he'll talk.

994
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll ask you every five minutes what day it is, gotcha?

995
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 1>And then he won't remember. But you ask him what

996
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>year they built the house in. Oh, he's got that backstory,

997
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:05.639
<v Speaker 1>it's down.

998
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you ask him questions about how he met mom?

999
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>He knows all that.

1000
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:12.239
<v Speaker 2>He remembers a lot of the names of the people

1001
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.679
<v Speaker 2>that he dealt with in his practice.

1002
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's really really weird.

1003
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what's so hard If you didn't know him very

1004
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>well and you went and sat down with him for

1005
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>five minutes and he's nostalgic, yeah, you would have no clue.

1006
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>You would have no clue that he had any kind

1007
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 2>of impairment whatsoever. Crazy, he uses big words, you know,

1008
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it's funny. He's got a sense of humor. A lot

1009
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 2>of the jokes are the same ones you've heard many

1010
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 2>times before. But if you ask him, you know, who's president,

1011
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or what year it is, or what car he's driving now,

1012
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know.

1013
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, He'll give you whatever answer pops up in there.

1014
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, those are the seven stages. They kind of

1015
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>are self explained.

1016
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would, I guess expect from like a degenerative disease. Yeah,

1017
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 1>just kind of basic. And then it gets worse and

1018
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse.

1019
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, what it's really scary, Well, I don't even know

1020
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 2>if it's scary. What's really weird is like you have

1021
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>as you age, a natural loss of memory and thoughts

1022
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and all those kinds of things. You're just not firing

1023
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>on all cylinders.

1024
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Hard gets outdated.

1025
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so some of that those first couple three stages,

1026
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to say, well, that's dementia or Alzheimer's,

1027
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 2>because you don't know.

1028
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It could just be natural.

1029
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 2>But then when it gets into like the fourth and

1030
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 2>fifth stage, where it's a little more progressed, then you

1031
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 2>have different kinds of dementia. It could be and God

1032
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>forbid that we go there. If we do well, I

1033
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 2>hope it's kind of like my dad because at least

1034
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>he's happy. Yeah, and he doesn't remember the things that

1035
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 2>are bad.

1036
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a piece in the whole thing. There's piece.

1037
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know, one thing my dad always does. He

1038
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>always talks about life is good.

1039
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 2>He always says, you know, it's okay, you know, it's

1040
00:56:59.400 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 2>a little hard.

1041
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I thought your mom here, but life is good. And

1042
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 1>he always says God is good, you know.

1043
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think just having that hope, hope, and also

1044
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 2>just that that's been such a part of his life,

1045
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>that that carries through and it gives him a lot

1046
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:18.159
<v Speaker 2>of peace and stuff. So he's not frustrated and angry

1047
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people that have Alzheimer's. As they

1048
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>start to be aware that something's wrong, they get angry.

1049
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Some of them get violent, and I'm just so thankful

1050
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 2>he's not.

1051
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>It makes you wonder too, you know, kind of based

1052
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>on what we talked about earlier, where does his consciousness

1053
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>d well? Is it in his reactions to forgetting or

1054
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is his consciousness beyond that? Does that make any sense?

1055
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 1>It does kind of. Yeah, So maybe his his matrix

1056
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>neo guy is forgetting these things and kind of repeating.

1057
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's just a glitch in the matrix as

1058
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.159
<v Speaker 1>his consciousness is moving somewhere else, and that doesn't make

1059
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it any better to see. Maybe for the still in

1060
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the matrix character. But maybe you know, as they work

1061
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>through this hard time and they're forgetting and they're asking

1062
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the same questions and they're getting frustrated because they don't

1063
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:21.239
<v Speaker 1>know what day it is or whatever, maybe that's just

1064
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 1>their avatar. Yeah, maybe that's just their NPC or their

1065
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.920
<v Speaker 1>virtual presence and their actual cognitive I mean, if you

1066
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>believe in ghosts, or you believe in anything spirit or

1067
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a soul, maybe their soul is somewhere else just kind

1068
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 1>of being happy that you, as a person are making

1069
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 1>an effort to interact. Does that makes sense?

1070
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, one thing that's kind of weird to

1071
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 2>think about is if we're all living in the matrix

1072
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.559
<v Speaker 2>and then suddenly you pop out of it. Then the

1073
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.480
<v Speaker 2>things that were so important to you inside the matrix

1074
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 2>aren't really real antmore. You know, they don't mean as much,

1075
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 2>they don't matter. You're on a bigger and better thing.

1076
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So I hope that too, is that if you're transitioning,

1077
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 2>that maybe you're aware on the other side that everything

1078
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 2>is that's in this little virtual world isn't that important anymore.

1079
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not as big a deal because everything else is

1080
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>so much grander.

1081
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 1>On the other side. Yep. I find myself doing a

1082
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 1>lot now that I'm getting older. I think just as

1083
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you age, you start to do this naturally. But the

1084
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:31.079
<v Speaker 1>things that I cared about when I was younger are

1085
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 1>starting to just become no, a void. Somebody taking French

1086
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 1>fries off my plate that's commonplace now. That still pisses

1087
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>me off. Yeah, I hate.

1088
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I had a hard time sharing my French fries with

1089
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 2>you kids, because I would like to like time out

1090
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 2>every bite of hamburger with my french And if I

1091
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 2>got to the end of my burger and I didn't

1092
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>have any fries left, I'd be so upset because you

1093
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 2>ate three or Mom took too.

1094
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just more advanced than you are, probably,

1095
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 1>but you see what I'm saying. Yeah, the way that

1096
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe we store the milk. I want to put it

1097
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>in the fridge door shelf, but other people in my

1098
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 1>house put it on the main shelf. Or like the most.

1099
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Important question of all time, toilet paper over or under

1100
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:17.960
<v Speaker 2>right exactly?

1101
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.719
<v Speaker 1>And when you get older, you're just like, eh, you

1102
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.639
<v Speaker 1>know what doesn't matter. I'm just gonna have I care

1103
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>more about the relationship we have outside of the refrigerator.

1104
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:32.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, you start to prioritize things, and maybe in

1105
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a weird way that kind of associates to or is

1106
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 1>associated with Alzheimer's, where you stop caring so much about

1107
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>your day to day and it's almost like a state

1108
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of nirvana, Like you're reaching nirvana where the spider on

1109
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the floor of the dirty house, that stuff doesn't bother

1110
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you so much. It's more about your being. You've let

1111
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.519
<v Speaker 1>go of all the earthly things and you're starting to

1112
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>ascend into transistence. Yeah, you're just becoming more peaceful as

1113
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a person. And maybe that reflects into the real world

1114
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 1>that the quote unquote real world that we live in

1115
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>as like Alzheimer's forgetfulness. But maybe it's just a part

1116
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of aging and you know, letting go of all these

1117
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 1>earthly things and starting to move on to something greater

1118
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 1>than yourself could be.

1119
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, we really went esoteric there, We really went

1120
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 2>like into New age esotericism.

1121
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, yeah, totally yeah. I just was like totally

1122
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:37.480
<v Speaker 1>zend out.

1123
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 2>It is so weird to think about because you want answers,

1124
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you want to understand, and then if you have, like

1125
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 2>if you do believe that we are more than just

1126
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 2>a biological entity that's just going to die and that's it.

1127
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 2>If you believe there's more to you, if you have

1128
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 2>a soul or spirit or power or some kind of

1129
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 2>connectivity to the universe as energy or whatever you want

1130
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to call it, then you wonder what how does this

1131
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 2>play out?

1132
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>How does this work?

1133
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:10.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's fun to ponder. It's kind of creepy to ponder, yeah,

1134
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but it's human nature to ponder, that's true.

1135
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1136
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know one thing I wanted to say while

1137
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about it is we were talking about mad

1138
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>cow disease in humans, the CJD kreush filled Yakov disease,

1139
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:28.639
<v Speaker 2>right ye, and Alzheimer's and that they're very similar. There

1140
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 2>was actually a study done where they dissected the brains

1141
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 2>of people that had died of Alzheimer's, and thirteen percent

1142
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 2>of those people that were diagnosed with Alzheimer's and died,

1143
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it turned out upon the dissection of their brain that

1144
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 2>they actually had CJD. They actually had crush filled Yakov

1145
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:56.920
<v Speaker 2>disease or mad cow disease. They had the prion associated

1146
01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:01.800
<v Speaker 2>with mad cow disease and not the protein molecule that

1147
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.360
<v Speaker 2>is associated with Alzheimer's. I just found that very very interesting.

1148
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting so an eighth of the people who are

1149
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 1>diagnosed as having Alzheimer's.

1150
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually have actually having or died of CJD, and that weird.

1151
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.360
<v Speaker 2>And so that kind of gets us to the point

1152
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:23.559
<v Speaker 2>where we can start talking about this other path towards

1153
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 2>prions and CJD and bovine sponge form and sephalopathy.

1154
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, and.

1155
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about a lot of other things too,

1156
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.039
<v Speaker 2>And we're going to talk about the connection of cattle

1157
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 2>mutilation to all this. Oh boy, and we're going to

1158
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 2>go deeper and further beyond but.

1159
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch to cattle mulation to cattle. Yeah, but I thought

1160
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a good way to start. We're working backwards.

1161
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I think most people talk about maybe where everything started.

1162
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.039
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about where things are right now.

1163
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 1>They're going to work backwards because that's what got us

1164
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.079
<v Speaker 1>into it. And we're a little backwards kind of you

1165
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little messed up. Yeah, sometimes you especially.

1166
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But anyway, I don't know. I think we've we've

1167
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.039
<v Speaker 2>got an episode here. I think we can jump out

1168
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and we can we can get into the next episode.

1169
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Next time, we'll talk more.

1170
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.280
<v Speaker 2>In depth about prions, and we maybe will talk a

1171
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.280
<v Speaker 2>little more in depth how the marriage of prions and

1172
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's are actually a lot closer than a lot of

1173
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 2>people want to believe. And I'll just leave with this

1174
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 2>one little tidbit. There is a very real possibility that Alzheimer's,

1175
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:40.559
<v Speaker 2>like prion diseases like CJD, is also infectious.

1176
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

1177
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We can talk about that more on the like prion side. Yes,

1178
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 1>but I have a little bit of knowledge about these

1179
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 1>protein infections, just based on the hunting atmosphere that I

1180
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:03.079
<v Speaker 1>tend to dwell in. Yes, the wasting thing which we

1181
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>should save exactly, I'm holding now, Yeah, you're holding out.

1182
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 2>But the idea that you could catch Alzheimer's not because

1183
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of your genetics, but that you could actually have come

1184
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 2>in contact with something that causes you to get.

1185
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Alzheimer's because you didn't wear a mask. I don't know

1186
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 1>about that. Let's not go there either.

1187
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean it's very similar to a virus.

1188
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean one of the things about Alzheimer's and prions

1189
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:34.599
<v Speaker 2>is that it really really was a confusion for people

1190
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that we're trying to figure this out. I mean, it

1191
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.119
<v Speaker 2>has been study now for years and years trying to

1192
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:42.360
<v Speaker 2>figure out what these things are and why it's happening.

1193
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 1>The whole prion thing not gonna lie kind of gives

1194
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.239
<v Speaker 1>me like a zombie vibe. Well, it totally is. It's

1195
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 1>totally like this weird thing that just triggers a weird

1196
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 1>part of the brain and just.

1197
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Shuts it down and like, yeah, well, and you lose

1198
01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:59.079
<v Speaker 2>control of your mental abilities and a lot of your

1199
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 2>physical You wonder, what if it just turned off your

1200
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 2>ability to reason and to not act primal, but only

1201
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 2>left your primitive, primal desires, and so all you wanted

1202
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:13.400
<v Speaker 2>to do is.

1203
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Eat, eat, drink, sleep, sleep, and have sex, and you

1204
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 1>were just an animal. Sounds like every day bro.

1205
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, So anyway, I thought this was an

1206
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 2>interesting conversation. It's going to get more strange, and we're

1207
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 2>going to try to keep it light as we go.

1208
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 2>And like we said at the very start, if you're

1209
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 2>in the throes of this right now, our heart goes

1210
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 2>out to you. I mean I almost could burst into

1211
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 2>tears right now because I know it is so hard

1212
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:49.360
<v Speaker 2>for people. So my thoughts and my pers are with you,

1213
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and I hope the best for your loved one, and

1214
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 2>most of all, I hope and pray for their peace

1215
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and that they have happiness and joy, that they don't

1216
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:01.719
<v Speaker 2>hurt and suffer.

1217
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is the main thing for me. And if

1218
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't work out that way, which is a

1219
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:13.199
<v Speaker 1>real possibility, hopefully the whole Nirvana thing can bring some

1220
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.360
<v Speaker 1>light into it that they're not actually the physical body

1221
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that you're looking at there, They're somewhere else. They're enjoying

1222
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 1>something much more pleasurable.

1223
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1224
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I like that idea a lot.

1225
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1226
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 1>All right, anyway, on that bombshell, it's time for us

1227
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:32.119
<v Speaker 1>to end, So join us next time for some less

1228
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 1>depressing and some cold drinks and some strange conversations, You

1229
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 1>got it.