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catching figu since before the twelfth grade. I had this desire,

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but couldn't get out of my way. Now I'm double

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the age, still reminded the days. Can't believe what all

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I've done. I'm still looking back, been cleaning up, but

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still remember the cooking crack. The strength I had for

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the needle, never quite took it back. Some days I

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still find that I'm quite shook. In fact, the light

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keeps going out. Maybe that's a.

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Speaker 2: Sign for me.

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Speaker 1: I have accepted that one day will be time for me,

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someone's revenge. I suppose that it's fine with me. Nothing

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in life often happened when the time is sweet. All

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I can do work to build a good now, and

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then staking the under makeup for days is shrouded in

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Dean's I am the howling man standing upon the howland winds,

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night of the hunted, the preacher upon the proud again,

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not perfect, not even a right. Can't remember the last

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time I slept all night. I'm open, but I need

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another hour. I just fell asleep off any time for

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the shower, no sugar added, no sugar added.

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Speaker 2: I just need water.

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Speaker 1: Mentally I can padded no sugar added, no sugar added,

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somewhere between.

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Speaker 2: Be get happy and Madden.

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Speaker 1: Apocalypse, now anxiety and alarms again. Hope my horrible ways

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could never harm a friends. Some men crossed me again.

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I saw them again. Even a heathen nor demon can

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fall from a sin Who called it again? I'm not

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sorry to them. Drowning in my own flood, I hardly

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can swim. Then I stopped too late. How could I

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be so selfish? Do the superdis things? But know that

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I'm not helpless? Bad patting habits I need to learn

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to break. I'm mad scattered this matter. If I need

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to learn to shake, We'll to extinguish every light, the

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match to burn the lake. Every roll of the dice

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is the one determined fate, slipping into the void for

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just a few hours to do it my vest and

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not flip. I got no new flower. My dreamscape is

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a place that I do scalo.

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Speaker 2: This search advance is like how I could bet a

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used powwoom. Not perfect, not even close to all right.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I slept all night,

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but I need another album. I just fell asleep off

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Freddy Tom for the shower. Wook, no sugar added, no

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sugar added. I just need water. Mentally, I am padded,

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no sugar added, no sugar added.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere between be Get Happy and Madden.

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Speaker 3: I Love It.

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Speaker 4: That is Cody Pope and Byron g No sugar added

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from the album Giant Steps in Gates City. And we

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have Cody Pope here with us in studio. We're gonna

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speak with him in just a moment. But welcome everybody,

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if you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered

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our number three New Marrow trace of Matt Connerton unleashed.

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Speaker 3: We are live from the studios.

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Speaker 4: Of w m n H ninety five point three FM

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and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here, of course

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at the News and it is a Saturday, August thirtieth,

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and I hear the doorbell. Oh my goodness, are we

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expecting company? Jenny is going to, uh, well, that's very strange.

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Let me get this mic on here. Oh, actually we

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switch to to the other mic.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Cody popas here, Hi.

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Speaker 5: Cody, good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. Yes, I don't know why the doorbell is

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ringing up. It's occasionally I don't know. If you know this,

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we've probably told you this. You probably know this used

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to be a bus station. Yeah, and uh, occasionally people

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will come here trying to buy bus tickets because I

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think if you look it up on Google, it still

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shows this is a location where you can purchase bus

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Speaker 5: It's funny that all the big signage outside that says

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like radio and TV doesn't sway them away.

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Speaker 4: And they're literally I told someone this once and I

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think they thought I was kidding. There's actually a sign.

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I don't know if you've seen the sign on the

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building that actually says we do not sell bus tickets here.

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Speaker 6: No, that's so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on the building.

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fact that people still come here to buy bus tickets.

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Speaker 6: That's like wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: But no, I love that track now, that Giant Steps

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and Gate City that was out the last time you

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Speaker 5: So I think we were here before. I think we

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might have been here before it came out, right, but

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we were like in the run of getting ready for

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, I recall now and you're still now you're

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you're working with Byron g still right, but he's got

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something else he's doing as well. Yeah, so you guys

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are kind of working separately but still still together with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Hellhound is still running full steam. Byron and

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I have a bunch of music in the vault, I

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want to say a little earlier this year. Anybody that's

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Speaker 5: The two of them have actually started a new company

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called six Zho three Beat Collaborative, Okay, and they do

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live audio, they do engineering, podcasting stuff for big corporate events,

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all sorts of stuff like that. So they've just been

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killing it and doing a lot of of the like

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initial groundwork of getting that all up and running. And

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uh So while they were doing that, I just figured

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I should keep keep the bus moving, keep the hell

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: They you know, they have families and kids and things

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that occupy a lot of time. I have the I

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have the position in life to be a rapper with

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a cat and a fiance, So it affords me a

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little more flexibility. And so I'm just uh taking the

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torch and running with it and uh trying to keep

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things moving until uh, you know, until everything settles down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have any kids, No, isn't it nice?

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong. People with children always

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look really happy and everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing is, like I'm kidding, but I

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imagine that, like parenting could be cool. Like I'm sure

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's the thing, is, like parenting as cool

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as you want to be as a parent, yea. And

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up on this whole creative endeavor in life.

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Speaker 4: That's always been my thing too, to have that degree

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of responsibility for another human being. I don't even know

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how anyone affords it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly now, especially nowadays. Yeah, things have tripled, are

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almost quadrupled in price in my adult life.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, Jenny. My curiosity is killing me.

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Why was the doorbell ringing.

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Speaker 7: Somebody looking for a bus for real?

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Speaker 3: That is that is what it was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, it was somebody looking for a bus to Boston.

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go to New London, North London to get a bus

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to Boston. Yes, because I don't know any other way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take an uber to North Londonderry.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, sweetie, there's.

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Speaker 3: No bus here. Yeah. Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 3: Well, very good. So why locked?

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Speaker 7: Probably says it online, still does it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing I was.

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Speaker 4: I was telling Cody that if you look online, it

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still says you can get bus tickets here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When we first when we first moved into this building,

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that at first, if they left the door unlocked during

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the morning show on weekdays, people would just wander into

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the building, you know, thinking they were gonna buy bus tickets.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, stranger walking in now so Giant Steps and

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Gate City. So this is this is your newest release.

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fifth project from Byron and I.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, wow yeah, Now who who are you working

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band that you perform with sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Now yeah, so back in. So it's it's interesting how

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it all kind of came to be. But big shout

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out to DJ Myth and the shasking Oh yeah, DJ Myth.

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DJ Myth and Sean Caliber, great artist from around the

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way to the two of them do an event called

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sound Off Saturdays at the shaskiing once in a while,

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a different theme. And so they had the theme of

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like rappers with a live band. Yeah, and they had,

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if I understood correctly, they had two acts, but then

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one of them had to drop or maybe they just

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had the one act and they needed to fill up

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I just was like, look, I can't promise that I

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can pull this off, but if you really don't have anybody,

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I was like, I certainly know people in bands, I

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great drummer who I think you actually have met before.

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A big shout out to Axel from Dead Harris.

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Speaker 5: So Axel hit me up, and then a childhood friend

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of mine hit me up as well, who played guitar,

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and we all met at a jam space in Nashua

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and Axel and I hit it off really well. The

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guitar player ended up having some family stuff and things

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that he had to deal with, so it just like

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of the picture quick and so it was like Axel

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just need to do this show. So even if it's

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just the two of us, like we can you could

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just drum over the music, We'll do the show to

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help them out and.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

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and a half, a guitar player hit us up, who

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Speaker 6: Are you familiar with the band Volley?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we've had them mine.

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Speaker 5: I love these guys, so shout out to them. Dane

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from Vali reached out and he was like, look, I'm

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going on vacation with my family this week. He's like,

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if you don't have anybody on I think it was

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the show was on the tenth, and I think he

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was coming back from his vacation on the third, and

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he was like, look, if you don't have anybody by

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the third, send me the music and I will do

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my best to learn it. And I was like okay.

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did the show that night and absolutely like crushed and

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we had so much fun. The audience. It was like

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playing to all new people. It was a way different

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audience than I usually played too. Yeah, they were super receptive.

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thank you guys so much. And they were both like,

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well we should just keep doing this, ye like, and

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I was like, well what a dream, you know, Like

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I was just gonna be happy if we did it

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for one show, and the fact that they wanted to

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keep up with it, I was so ecstatic. So now

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we've set so we have two shows in September now

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and we're currently on the search for a bassist and

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a keyboard player. Nice kind of fill things out.

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Speaker 3: Very cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, what's it called Cody Pope and what.

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Speaker 6: Cody Pope and the Keyholders and the Keyholders?

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Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, yeah, that's very cool.

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Speaker 5: So people that are that are into the Cody and

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Byron stuff. We have a song from one of our

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projects called the Keyholders Theme Song, and that kind of

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ties into us being from Nashua because Nashua is the

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gate city and sense, you know, culturally, there's lots of

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talk now more than ever about gatekeeping and the idea

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of gatekeeping. And I'm not a huge fan of gatekeeping

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person Like I understand it to a degree, but I

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also am kind of of the challenger of the ilk

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of like, look, I could give you all the resources

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that I have, but you're not gonna do what I do. Like,

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you know, it's like you can give two people a

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paintbrush and they're gonna make a different thing, right exactly.

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And so Keyholder just be kind of came this thing

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of like I'm happy to share my tools with the

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right people, Like if you. If you're on this path

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for real and you really care about the craft and

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what you're doing, and I have some something that I

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can share with you, I'm happy to do that if

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it's for the right reason. Yeah, Like I'm not afraid

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of sharing game, but I do understand protecting the culture too.

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And so that's kind of where the idea of like

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the keyholders came from. Is just like we've kind of

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made our like where a part of hip hop as

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a greater thing, but Hellhound is very much like its

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own kind of like unity and subculture, and like we

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have a lot of people that come out specifically to

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our stuff and that specifically rock with us rather than

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like the greater culture the way we love it, right,

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And so we look at that as like something we've

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cultivated and something we have to protect too. We want

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to grow it and continue it to blossom, but we

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have to like protect the sanctity of these people that

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come and really appreciate this thing. You know, they come

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and they feel safe, they feel like they can express themselves,

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they can be vulnerable, they can cry and dance and

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laugh and have fun and whatever. And so it's like

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we want to make sure that that always stays a

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part of the ethos of what we do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that makes sense and it's very positive.

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And how long is Hellhound existed?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 5: So we started Hellhound in twenty I started Hellhound in

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twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and then Byron became a part.

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Speaker 5: Of it in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two, okay, Yeah, so it did already existed

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for for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was like a very interesting time period.

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So when we had met, I think we talked about

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this before, but you were doing local outbreak at the

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I forget the name of the place, but it was

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like a vintage store in Laconia, And that was the

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first time we had met. That was around the time

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that I had just kind of started linking up with

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Bizza too. I think Bizil was the one who introduced us.

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And I had started a record label called Vatican Life

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back then, and the last record that I put out

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on Vatican Life was my album called Not Having a

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Good Day, which a lot of people that's kind of

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like the thing they know me for. But coincidentally, as

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well known as the song has become now, when the

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album came out, it didn't do very well in terms

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of like just selling the album, and then I did

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like a short tour to promote the album, and most

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of the shows on the tour did not go very well,

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just like Low attended weak Night kind of like didn't

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seem like people cared kind of thing. So I just

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became very disillusioned, and I was like, man, all the

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artists that I put out records for have like, I

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don't want to say fallen off, but kind of chosen

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to not pursue music anymore. And life dealt them other cards,

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and I was in this weird place where it was like, man,

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I had built up such momentum, and somehow I'm looking

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at my last album thinking like, oh I got covered

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in the Hippo, I had more people at the release show,

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I sold more CDs, Like what did I do wrong?

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I'm so proud of this album. I thought it was

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such a tremendous body of work. But I think I

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had just burnt myself out and I think that I

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was Yeah, you know, I just I was applying too

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much in the wrong places. Yeah, I needed to step

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back and learn how to like do more for myself

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in like the creative sense, the marketing sense, like how

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to just be more self dependent. And one of the

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things that I had started kind of coming to grips

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with at that time was, I don't know if I'm

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going to be able.

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Speaker 6: To do music forever. I want to.

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Speaker 5: I hope that I always have the privilege of doing so,

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but you just never know. The culture could dictate that

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your time has come, your audience could be exhausted with

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what you've done, You could have some sort of something

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could happen that could prevent you from executing your craft

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at the full level. And so I realized it was like,

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I need to be able to do other creative endeavors

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and still have a platform for the music as well.

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And one of my big influences in life has always

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been Henry Rawlins. I grew up a punk rock kid.

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I loved Black Flag, but I found that when I

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was like about twelve or thirteen years old, So it

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was like a very pivotal time in my life, and

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I had like, I don't want to like drag on

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the story, but basically I had been like a punk

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rock fan already. I used to go hang out at

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Barnes and Noble all the time because back then Barnes

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and Noble was open till eleven o'clock at night. They

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had the Starbucks, so it was like a place you

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could just take the.

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Speaker 6: Bus and go hang out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was there one night and I liked,

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I've always read like I'm a big fan, like the

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hell Hound logo is a book in flame, Yeah, like

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it's very much a part of my ethos as a person.

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But I was just looking through books and I found

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a book and it's and it had Henry Roland's name

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on it as like the author, and so like thirteen

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year old me is like, I picked it up and

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I opened the first page. It was the book it's

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called Sillipsist. I don't know if if you've ever seen it,

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but it's like it is as raw as it comes.

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The very first page is just like raw, unfiltered, honest

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discuss with the things that he's seeing at the time.

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And I didn't think books could be like that, Like,

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I didn't think books can say that kind of stuff.

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And then it was like, oh, the guy from Black

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Flag writes books and like puts out And then I

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saw the record label that he had and they put

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out books and they did concerts and they put out

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spoken word albums, and so it just made me realize

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that like maybe I had boxed myself in too much,

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like ye I write. You know, it's not that I

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write raps. You know, I started off as a punk

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rock kid. I played in hardcore and metal bands. Like,

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I've played numerous instruments, I've written poetry, I've done all

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these other things, including rap. Rap is a skill set

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that has taken me the furthest of all of my

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skill sets. But doing hell Houn publishing was like, look,

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we're not calling this just records or music group or whatever.

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This is now the entity that we can do everything through.

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It's the cultural ethos that brings all of this art together,

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you know. It's being raw, being vulnerable, being honest, not

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feeling like you have to play Kate two societal standards

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or even industry standards, just being comfortable carving your own

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lane at whatever that costs. And so I kind of

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so the dissolution of Vatican Life was also the start

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of my hiatus as a rapper, and I ended up

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taking the next like almost three years off wow, and

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didn't really I think. I think I put out like

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an EP and I played like one show or something,

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but I didn't really do anything. I had put all

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of my energy into this hell Houm publishing project, and

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the first things that I was working on were podcasts.

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I had written like a radio play, so I wrote

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like a whole script. It was like eight thirty minute

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episodes really, and this very like film noir based like

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old school radio play style thing. I had cast a

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bunch of voice actors wow, brought them to my studio

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and was like producing this thing. And a few months

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in I just realized I was like way in over

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my head in terms of doing a production of that magnitude.

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But I knew that I was like on the right path.

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I knew that I was, like this is why I

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made hell Hound, chose to do.

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Speaker 6: Things like this.

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Speaker 3: What was the radio play about?

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Speaker 5: So it's called Gates and I based it in like

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early like nineteen fifties Nashua, And it's really like a

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mix of like a sci fi murder mystery kind of

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thing where I took a lot of those like like

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the Raymond Chandler stories, like those kind of like detective

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mystery things, and I tried to imbue that with my

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love of sci fi, like how would people react to

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science fiction scenarios in that time in the fifties without

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the lack of technology that we have today. So it

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was really fun and I still have a lot of

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the stuff like in the vault, and I'm just trying

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to figure out Now it's like, all right, I finish it.

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Because I was I was like, I think, coming from

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like CD culture and concert ticket culture, it's like I

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have this very way of thinking that was like I

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need to get all eleven voice actors to the studio

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to like play off of each other, and how do

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I record that all at the same And it's like

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people just don't have the time for that, you know.

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And it was just like technological stuff that it was

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like I need to figure out how I could produce

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this better.

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Speaker 2: And now I have.

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Speaker 5: But then in that time the music stuff kind of

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picked back up so much that it was like, Okay,

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I understand now I have a better understanding of how

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to charge forward. And it's that doing the music is

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the thing that shines a lot of light into what

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I'm doing and provides me the leverage to take risks

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on new creative ventures like a radio play or doing

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a podcast or writing a book or whatever, or it

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may be. Yeah, and so I think as long as

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I stay steady doing music and not compromising, that people

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will also take risks on me doing new things. And

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the band was kind of an example of that too. Yeah,

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we're constantly trying to bring new elements into what people

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see as like a hip hop show. And like the

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flyer I gave you, you'll see, we're doing an unplugged

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show at the end of September, so we're basically all

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acoustic and percussion stuff, and we're going to be doing

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all new renditions of some of my songs oh wow,

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and stuff that was like I was like very inspired

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by like Incubus, Alice in Chains, yeah, stuff like that.

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That it was like, how do I bring that kind

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of like goose bump inducing energy and still use my

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like the spinal chord of the music that I'm making

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right right now?

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Speaker 4: I think that's really cool, and you know, to have

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the music as the nucleus, but but to not limit yourself,

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you know. Yeah, now, I think that's I think that's

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excellent if you are just joining us. Cody Pope is

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here with us on this this Saturday morning, and so

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when is the next, when is the next show that

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you're doing with the band with the Keyholders?

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Speaker 5: So the next Keyholders show September fourteenth, we're going to

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be at the Shaskiing Okay, We're going to be doing

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like a regular like electric, pretty high energetic set for

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rap night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then September twenty seventh, we're doing our Unplugged Acoustics

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show at the Spot in Nashua, Newhamshire.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh that's very cool. Yeah, all right, excellent, excellent.

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Do you want to So we had talked off air

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about you were going to wrap something a cappella for us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a couple of songs that I so

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like we were saying before. With everything that's been going,

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you know, I've been so fortunate to have the band,

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i had, buyer In, I had bus, I've always had

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people to bounce off of creatively when I'm on stage.

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But the only way that I got any of those

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people to mess with me in the first place was

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by just being up there by myself. And so I'd

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been so far removed from that that for this show

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that I did about a week ago, I was kind

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of like tied into just celebrating my birthday, Like, what

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else would I want to do besides the thing I love?

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And so I put together this hour long set and

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I picked songs that I some I had never performed before,

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some I hadn't performed in like ten years, Some were

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like unreleased songs, and then of course some of the

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stuff that people have come to know and enjoy. And

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it was just like I kind of just built this

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night around celebrating my catalog and the work that I've done,

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and it was like very cathartic. A lot of like

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old friends came out, a lot of new people that

506
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had no idea who I was just happened to like

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buy tickets because they liked the venue. And it went

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really well. So I thought that it would be cool

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to kind of pick a couple songs from throughout the

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catalog that I could do acapella because nobody's ever heard

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them like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very curious.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So the first one that I was thinking of

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doing is from the Cody and Byron collection. This is

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a song. We've been opening the show with it a

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lot because I feel like, subject wise, it's kind of

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how some people think about or start the day or whatnot.

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And so this song is called gratitude. This is one

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of the closing songs from the Giant Steps and Gates

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City album.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Whenever You're ready, Cody Pope live in studio.

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Speaker 8: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

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I hate that I'm sad, but my loved ones feel

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so glad. Then easily tripping, don't know why I'm so mad? Man,

525
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Got a lot to be grateful for even when I'm

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damn bad man. Some days I wake up and I

527
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wish I had it. I hate that I'm sad, but

528
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my loved ones feel so I'm glad, Then easily tripping,

529
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don't know why I'm so mad man, Got a lot

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to be grateful for even when I'm damn bad man.

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Wake up in my brain already feeling dark, Hit the couch, already,

532
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chase a spark, contemplating in my sick of unhealthy? Is

533
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this depression of karma for unwealthy? Enough clarity to know

534
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that I'm the end of me, the one destroying me,

535
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the one should be defending me. Gotta take time enough

536
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to know you can't make time, So make mind filled

537
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with the things that shape lives. What you heard on

538
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the grapevine might not taste right, so you don't gotta

539
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make wine. You'll still make flights. Plant that seed that

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gone way to your family. We the real money tree.

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Life's obstacle, standard fees. Still days, I'm fighting to get

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through it, but I survived when I've remained my truest.

543
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When the fight come at your door, you can't be truant.

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You missed that chance. Might as well except your ruins.

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Speaker 2: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

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Speaker 8: I hate that I'm sad, but my loved ones feel

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so glad then easily tripping.

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Speaker 2: Don't know why I'm so mad.

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Speaker 8: Man, got a lot to be grateful for, even when I'm.

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Speaker 3: Down bad man.

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Speaker 5: Some days I wake up, hmm, thank you?

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Speaker 3: Very cool? Very cool?

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Speaker 4: Is that is that difficult to do? Like to do

554
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that acapella without? I mean, or do you just kind

555
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of play the beat in your head or how do

556
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you do that?

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Speaker 5: I think I do kind of play the beat in

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my head, and I just like try to black out

559
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a little bit because it is definitely like nerve racking,

560
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you know. It's like I can like even feel myself

561
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now a little bit, being like, oh boy, I don't know,

562
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I never I've done that before, but I think it's

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just one of those things that I need to be

564
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able to do because I thrive in the live atmosphere, right,

565
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That's very much my comfort zone. I love performing. But

566
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what happens is everybody experiences the live show differently. Some

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people are feeling the music, some people are seeing your

568
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action and reaction to stuff. Some people are processing what

569
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you're saying. Some people might miss entire lines and segments

570
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of what I'm saying because it's just a different kind

571
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of atmosphere. And so being that what I do is

572
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so rooted lyrically, it's cool to have opportunities like this

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where it's like, hopefully people can kind of be like, oh,

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you know, I've heard that song fifteen times and hearing

575
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it that way really hit home what he's talking about

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or what he's trying to say, And you know, that's

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the best I could ask.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's really cool. So have you have you

579
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done that live? Just acapella like that and in front

580
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of an audience? Oh no, this is the first time.

581
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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow, well yeah, we just we we always

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play it at the shows. The album came out because

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it's just such a cool thing. Yeah, and I usually

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open with it because doing some of those vocal inflections,

585
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it's like, if I try to do that at the

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end of the set when I've wore you know, the

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show gets a little rowdy at times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you got to get some of the

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more challenging vocal vocally nuanced stuff out of the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. We had talked about

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playing let's see studio track clipped wings.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is a this is a cool one.

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I'm glad that we're playing this because when we put

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the album out, we that album release show is the

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only time we played the album top to bottom. Oh okay,

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And so after that show, that song has just yet

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to have fit into a set list really. Yeah, And

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it's not it's a great song, but it's a little longer,

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and it's a it's a little more of like a

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serious subject matter kind of thing. So it's like you

602
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can't just like play that at every you know, it's

603
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it's not as fun as doing not having a good

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day and everyone's jumping around and singing along. So it's

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cool when we were you know, but when we were

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off air, I was like trying to go through the

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the new album to pick some songs that I figured

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hadn't been as widely picked.

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Speaker 6: Up on or talked about or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Sure, and this is definitely one that, like I don't

611
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want to say, has gone unrecognized, But it doesn't get

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the kind of conversation that like, you know, no Sugar

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Added or some of the other songs on the album.

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People of our gratitude. People really gravitate to these songs,

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and that's also because we've exerted a lot of energy

616
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pushing them. So Clipped Wings is really cool. It's kind

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of the the idea behind it is essentially not allowing

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yourself to be stifled where it's for situations to dictate

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or for circumstances to dictate how much room you have

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to do X, Y and Z. And ultimately it's like

621
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you can accept those terms or you can create a

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new way and not allow yourself to feel so beaten down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like it. All right, Let's give this

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a spend.

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Speaker 4: This is Cody Pope and Byron g It's from the

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album Giant Steps in Gate City and Cody Pope is

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here with us live in studio. This is called Clipped wings.

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Speaker 1: So called kings want me to clip mouth wings. Don't

629
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like a how I sing and still do my thing?

630
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If you the type did not leave the house. We

631
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just don't believe your mouth. You can discuss anything with

632
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no ouns what you're talking about and in the down

633
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and dirty, with the dirt in my nails, ice back

634
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recovery from the of my fails. Nice that people loving me.

635
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Sure I feel swell. They're lifting dead weight that want

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to burn me in hell, had a list of change

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of mad insame brain, the talking to me more than

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the store with the range different missions. When you're missing

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00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,240
what you never had been doing this most by life.

640
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It was never a fat been here for kids, never stifferent,

641
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not to fear. No man can program me different that

642
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,359
clear searching for clever and sometimes I've made it differently

643
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to keep on this hunt.

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Speaker 2: It's not something you'll have to dabby.

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00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,799
Speaker 1: Making mountains out of mow hills. But I'm still climbing.

646
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They c lit my wings, but you'll see I'm still rising.

647
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Probably needs every people. At least I'm still rhyming. I

648
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hope you find the thing that helped you make the

649
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most of timing. Making mountains out of mohills, but I'm

650
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still climbing. They c lit my wings, but you'll see

651
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,960
I'm still rising. Probably needs every people. At least I'm

652
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still rhyming. I hope you find the thing that helped

653
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you make the most of timing. I'm on a mission

654
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to make sure that my circle eat no more betray

655
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from these sucker arkle peeks.

656
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Speaker 2: We on the meeting tip to ards the.

657
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Speaker 1: First of the week, working right after work again, no

658
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hurt in my feet, certainly deep on the path that

659
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we've been coughing out. Always say she ain't in hunger,

660
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but still sotften now so looking me like a martian,

661
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I'm not offfing now. When you evolve, you gotta leave

662
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,119
behind the laugh and now, even if you not be ritual,

663
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440
think of karma. How again, disrupt and derailed, don't work

664
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you while the bout climbing.

665
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Speaker 2: Ladder is easily lead, Just look and fall you get

666
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,279
your shot. How we used to leak?

667
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:34,319
Speaker 1: Can you grip the ball? Hit the wall lights flash

668
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,200
time to say nothing? If you win a jam, don't

669
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give them the turkey stuff and the recipe stay locked

670
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,400
up like eleven spices, even if it puts you down

671
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,039
for eleven lights, making mountains out of bowhells, but I'm

672
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still climbing. They lit my wings, but you'll see I'm

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still rising.

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Speaker 6: Probably needs ever be the least.

675
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Speaker 2: I'm still rising.

676
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Speaker 1: Hope you find the thing that helped you make the

677
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most of the time and making mountains out of.

678
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,079
Speaker 2: Mowhells, but I'm still climbing. Think that my wings. But

679
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,599
you'll see I'm still rising.

680
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Speaker 1: Probably needs to ever be the least. I'm still romming.

681
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,799
Hope you find the thing that helped you make them

682
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most of the time, and.

683
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Speaker 4: That has clipped wings. That is from the album Giant

684
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Steps and Gate City. That's Cody Pope and Byron g

685
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And we have Cody Pope here with us, alive in studio,

686
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,519
and Uh, Mike McDowell, also known as the Healer is

687
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uh is in the chat room.

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Speaker 6: Hello much love brother.

689
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been on the show. I really enjoyed talking

690
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,000
with him doing He's doing a lot of great, great stuff.

691
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Speaker 5: The first time we connected was the last time that

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we were here.

693
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Speaker 6: Mike was on the.

694
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Speaker 8: Show before us, right, So he was headed out of

695
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,079
the building as we were headed in. Oh yeah, and

696
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,559
he stopped us and was like, hey, what's up, Like

697
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440
you guys are going on like da da da da da.

698
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And that's when we started keeping in touch.

699
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:52,199
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

700
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Speaker 6: He let me know about the.

701
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 5: Spot and and he's been a huge advocate for me

702
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,000
on this, you know, as I talk about this next

703
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,760
chapter of what I'm doing. Yeah, he's been a huge

704
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,199
advocate for me already, letting me do the solo show

705
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and like we that was really kind of the foundation

706
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,679
of like how I want to put shows on again.

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Speaker 6: So we have we have obviously we're gonna be back

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there with the band.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we got some really special stuff in the works.

710
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I'm very really grateful that we got connected.

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00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,559
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh that's really great. Well, you know, I'm

712
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glad that we were a part of a facilitating that.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool. Yeah.

714
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, we I think when we had when we had

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him on, he was in the process of building up,

716
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:35,440
you know, getting he wasn't open yet obviously the spot.

717
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,880
But but yeah, we should get him back on to

718
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,920
you know, talk about him, see how things are going. Yeah,

719
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,559
he said in the chat, let's see he said, my

720
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:47,320
man Cody Pope, morning boys, and Jenny uh and he said,

721
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:47,800
love you.

722
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,159
Speaker 3: Homeboy, so very nice, very nice.

723
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's you know, it's so important too, you

724
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,559
know in the music business, networking and uh, you know,

725
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:58,760
meeting people, getting out and meeting people and all that.

726
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,559
Speaker 3: So so that's that's great.

727
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: Are you So what what is kind of your I mean,

728
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,920
what are you most excited about? Because you're always doing

729
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,119
You're always doing a number of different things, like obviously,

730
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,000
you know, playing with you know, Cody Pope and the

731
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,480
key Holders. That's pretty exciting. Does that like the the

732
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,800
biggest thing or or.

733
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,599
Speaker 5: So that is definitely one of the things I'm super

734
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:27,000
excited about. But I also keep realistic expectations because both

735
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:31,639
of my bandmates are in multiple other projects. Right, it's

736
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,960
not the kind of thing. And but that's why I'm

737
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:37,719
also back doing the solo shows too, because it's like

738
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960
I feel like now I've put myself in a position

739
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,960
where there's not really a room that I can't attack.

740
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,280
If you have enough notice, I could ask Byron and

741
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,920
me and Byron have a show that's unlike most artist

742
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:54,159
producer duos, and we have a chemistry that I'm so

743
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,760
proud of when we're on stage and on record. Obviously,

744
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,760
as I've been talking about, I can do my solo

745
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,880
show and I'm doing that again anytime anybody needs any

746
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,599
size room, any place, you know, whatever. And having the

747
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:11,880
band now it's like those opportunities that may require something

748
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,159
a little different than a traditional hip hop thing. Now

749
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:18,239
with the band, it brings a different live element. We

750
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,679
can do different variations of my songs. We actually we

751
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,199
did a cover at our first show, which, like I

752
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,320
anybody that knows me, I kinda like, I don't want

753
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,639
to say I hate covers, but I'm very judgmental of

754
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,000
covers in bands that do a lot of covers and

755
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:40,920
cover bands and things of that nature. But it was

756
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,280
like one of those things where I was like, man,

757
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,440
I haven't had a band in so many years, and

758
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,559
we're trying to pull this show together on a week's notice,

759
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,840
and we did a cover and it went over incredibly.

760
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,519
People went off, and so we were like, well, was

761
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,719
so we covered break Stuff by Olympus.

762
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: Nice I was in a band a long time ago

763
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:01,280
that actually covered that song.

764
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:03,159
Speaker 6: People just went bananas.

765
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Because I knew it was going to be a

766
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,440
different audience for that show, and so it was like

767
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,519
in my head, it was like, oh, let's do some

768
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:13,760
obscure punk rock cover, like it's something that's going to

769
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,960
like make people smash the walls open. And then it

770
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,039
was like, let's do something that people know, Let's do

771
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,440
something they could easily get. And and so I've kind

772
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,719
of found a little gravity in that where it's like, Okay,

773
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,559
I like picking like one song that we can learn

774
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,000
for each show. And so I think that's kind of

775
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,519
become our thing, where like every time we do a show,

776
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:35,199
we're going to have like a new cover that we

777
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,480
do just for that show.

778
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,559
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Oh that's cool. That's a cool concept.

779
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

780
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 4: I was in a band that we covered when I

781
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,920
was in my life crisis. We covered break stuff, and

782
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,920
it's funny because I related. The reason I laughed when

783
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,760
you were talking about covers initially is because I remember

784
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,920
being in that band and I was always kind of like, guys,

785
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,760
our originals are really strong, we don't need to be

786
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,079
doing covers. And I resisted, but you know, I was

787
00:38:58,079 --> 00:38:59,840
outvoted on that, but I ended up being glad we

788
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239
did it because that is a fun song. I know

789
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,519
from personal experience, that's a fun song to play live.

790
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,119
And yeah, people people get into it, people react to it.

791
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: And I think I got burnt out on like covers

792
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,400
and stuff like that. Because I worked in the motorcycle

793
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,039
industry for a number of years. I was doing marketing

794
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:18,599
and events for different Harley Davidson dealership Okay, and so

795
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,239
as you can imagine, like that audience is a lot

796
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,320
different than what I normally work with. It's very much

797
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,920
a play the hits, let's here, skinnered, let's you know,

798
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,519
and so it's like doing that for years. It's like, man,

799
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,360
every week, it's like we're just listening to God Smack again.

800
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:39,360
We're just listening to whatever, Like butt rock band.

801
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: Is like cool.

802
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 5: At the it's like it just got so draining. It

803
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,679
was like, I just want to hear songs I've never

804
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,239
heard before at this point. Yeah, even if they're not good,

805
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,599
I just want to hear songs I haven't heard yet,

806
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,000
right right, And so uh that kind of But I

807
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:55,920
think now I'm in a good place where it's like

808
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
it's in doing.

809
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 6: I don't want to call it singing. I feel like

810
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,599
that's not.

811
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: There are people who are very incredible vocal singers who

812
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,920
are trained. I don't know what you would call what

813
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,199
I do, but the midst of vocalizing that I've been

814
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,320
trying to add into my like rap style is doing

815
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:21,840
cover songs is like a really good challenge break stuff.

816
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,480
Obviously not exemplary of that, but some of the stuff

817
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,400
that we're doing now is like songs where it's like,

818
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,880
all right, I'm going to try and like maybe work

819
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,119
with a vocal coach to figure out how to do

820
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,760
this song the best way, and then all the stuff

821
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,840
that I learned in that time I can now apply

822
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,559
to the stuff that I write going forward.

823
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm excited about it in that sense.

824
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:46,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's really cool. The time goes quick. You

825
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,679
want to do another, you want to do another a cappella,

826
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,360
but I want to make sure we got another one

827
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,960
in because I was really cool awesome.

828
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to think if we have if

829
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,000
we have time for one more, should I?

830
00:40:58,119 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: Okay?

831
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 5: So I So I was working on this in the car.

832
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880
I was hoping I was going to get through it.

833
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,639
It's a tough one, but I just did it at

834
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,719
the show that this past show, and so I've only

835
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,760
performed this song two times live now because it's from

836
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,840
my last solo album that I did, called The Howling Man,

837
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,239
which came out in twenty twenty one, Okay, And the

838
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,840
song is called Moonlight, and it's really just about like

839
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,559
losing people that have passed to drug addiction and people

840
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,199
that have like gone young and stuff like that, and

841
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,599
having overcome a lot of that myself. The kind of

842
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,599
duality of yeah, like I'm so fortunate to have come

843
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,920
out the other side of this thing, and then the like, wow,

844
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,800
so many people that I knew didn't and like, you know,

845
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,760
it just doesn't always feel great. Yeah, but the times

846
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,599
that I've done this song, it's really connected with people,

847
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,960
and it's really like brought a lot of like people

848
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:04,199
out of their shell that probably wouldn't have talked to

849
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
me or said anything. And so it was like, all right,

850
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,400
maybe I gotta like suck it up and find a

851
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,239
way to do this more often. Yeah, crack open my

852
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,239
cheet sheet here just in case I need it.

853
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you're just joining us, we have Cody

854
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:20,079
Pope here with us live in studio.

855
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,199
Speaker 5: So this song is called Moonlight. This is from my

856
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,360
album The Howling Man. All Right, Candle's burning out, staring

857
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,159
at the moonlight, wondering if I'm gonna make it through

858
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:37,400
another spoon light. Piano man five bucks if you play

859
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,039
this tune right. Trying to see my friends, let my

860
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,599
spirit sort of new heights, heart hurts lone survivor of

861
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,679
my friend's past. Why this needle make me feeble but

862
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,199
not end fast? Only longevity I seek is that my

863
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,639
pen last drive my car a buck fifty and then crash.

864
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,199
Can't explain death's desire to those who love life. It's

865
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,559
way more than money in having a love life. Brain

866
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,880
operate different when you're drained of your thinking. This command

867
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,920
visions way more than what you're drinking. Yo, It's hard

868
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,639
to think of all my friends gone, forget the ones

869
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:14,280
who abandon them. People bend gone. I know in all life,

870
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,599
plenty of times I bend wrong. Wish I knew how

871
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:21,039
to speak instead of this song. It feels, it feels.

872
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:21,639
It feels that.

873
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 8: I won't make it, can't take my soul and feel

874
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,280
that I'm still naked. Nah, brother, you can fight this battle,

875
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,320
just another war, nothing that we haven't overcome when we

876
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,599
seen before. It feels it feels, it feels that I

877
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,559
won't make it, can't take my soul and feel that

878
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:41,000
I'm still naked. Nah brother, you can fight this battle,

879
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,039
Just another war. Nothing that we haven't overcome when we

880
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:47,960
seen before. I can't take it, can't seem to suppress

881
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,760
the fall. My body hurts, brain, tire, depressing. Y'all you

882
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,519
feeling stressed, Hit the gym and go find a brawl.

883
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,559
All in all, there's a million ways to survive, my dog.

884
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,400
This world needs you, even that it's most feeble, Even

885
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,159
when you feel like God and the devil both deceive you. You

886
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719
got brothers, you got sisters. We all receive you. No

887
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,039
matter what you gotta say, We're gonna try to believe

888
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:13,280
you might have strength. Something you gotta fight for takes training,

889
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,840
takes time, takes a life's work. Hard to see illumination

890
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440
when your light pours, blinded by the grinding of your

891
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,320
shine and in your fight sores, save my number in

892
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,199
your phone as never given up. No matter what I'm

893
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,679
doing now, I'm about to give it up. Struggle runs deep. Please, No,

894
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,960
I know you did enough. Please don't ever worry about

895
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,039
if you did enough. It feels it feels, It feels

896
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,880
that I won't make it. Can't take my soul and

897
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,159
feel that I'm still naked. Nah, brother, you can fight

898
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920
this battle just another war. Nothing that we have and

899
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:45,800
overcome when we've seen before.

900
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: Hmm.

901
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,639
Speaker 4: I like it, thank you. I like that line, save

902
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:54,320
my number on your phone has never given up. I

903
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,480
like that a lot. Yeah, I think that's that's really cool.

904
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,159
That's really cool. Cody Pope are with us, alive in

905
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,440
a studio. And so what is the next what what's

906
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,039
the next big show you got coming up?

907
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,119
Speaker 5: So I got so November sixth, November, Wow, September sixth,

908
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,559
I'm gonna be in Northampton, Massachusetts at the Phoenix Rising

909
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:18,119
Art Gallery. Oh cool, Yeah, I'm excited about that. Now

910
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,719
that'll be a solo show. September fourteenth, I'm gonna be

911
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,960
at the Shaskiine with the Keyholders for our Electric live set.

912
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,000
We're gonna be playing at RAP Night, so it'll be

913
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:30,519
a little late Sunday night gig.

914
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

915
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: Then on the twenty seventh of September, it's going to

916
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,000
be me and the key Holders again. We're gonna be

917
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:39,920
doing an unplugged acoustics show at the Spot.

918
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: In Nashua, New Hampshire.

919
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

920
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,039
Speaker 6: So that is kind of this month in a in

921
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:45,360
a nutshell. Yeah.

922
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,599
Speaker 5: In addition to uh I've been doing I don't know

923
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:49,320
if we had talked about it the last time I

924
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,480
was here or not. But I've been doing a podcast

925
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,519
every Monday. I do a live stream podcast on YouTube

926
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:55,920
as well.

927
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. Ye, I was curious

928
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,039
to ask you about that.

929
00:45:58,119 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

930
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: So it's called Cody Central. We're almost forty episodes deep now, Yeah.

931
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: Cool.

932
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:09,159
Speaker 5: It's been awesome. It's I so every week we essentially

933
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:13,360
bring on a new guest. We've had chefs, we've had musicians,

934
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,920
we've had athletes, we've had life coaches, trauma survivors, all

935
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,119
sorts of different people. Nice and Uh, it's been really

936
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,000
cool because it gives me a chance to use my

937
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:26,480
platform to let other people share their stories the way

938
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,840
that like people like you guys give me a chance

939
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,440
to share what I'm doing, you know, And so that's like,

940
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,159
how could I contribute back to the community.

941
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 6: That I ask so much of.

942
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: Oh, that's really cool.

943
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 6: It's been really cool.

944
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been really privileged to have so many impactful

945
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:45,199
and like really impressive people come on and share their stories.

946
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,159
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.

947
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do so lot.

948
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,559
Speaker 3: Stream excellent, excellent. So it's Monday is what.

949
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: Every Monday eight pm on YouTube outstanding. Yeah, so it's

950
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,719
it's been really cool. Yeah, we'll definitely have to have

951
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,119
you on the seat sometimes.

952
00:46:58,119 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 4: Oh I would love it. Yeah, I would love it.

953
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,559
And it called Cody Central yep. Okay, okay, yeah, I

954
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,079
remember seeing the logo for it. I dig the logo,

955
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:06,719
but I'm gonna have to check out the show now

956
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,480
that I know what it's about.

957
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's really cool, very good, very good.

958
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,519
Speaker 4: Let's see anything we didn't mention that you want us

959
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:15,039
to know about. You got a lot going on, so

960
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:16,800
I want to make sure we don't leave anything unturned

961
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,800
before we run out of time.

962
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 5: No, I mean the biggest thing is just kind of

963
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,559
letting the world know that that I'm back at it

964
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:26,280
in whatever form you need me to. You know, this

965
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:29,960
was since Giant Steps in Gate City came out, things

966
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,760
slowed down, you know, because of life and everything that happened,

967
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
and I obviously was part of that. So I'm just

968
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,679
trying to like kind of get the momentum going again. Yea,

969
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,679
and next year we're hoping to go back on tour

970
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,880
next year, but in the meantime, I'm just trying to

971
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,119
kind of fill up with as many regional dates as

972
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:51,079
I can. I really just want to get the performing

973
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:54,440
wheels going. I have a ton of new music in

974
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,440
the vault right now. I guess me and Byron have

975
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,679
a bunch of stuff. I want to release that stuff soon,

976
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,960
but I want to do it with him, so so

977
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,480
I'm kind of waiting until he's ready and got the time.

978
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,480
When he has the window, we're going to run it

979
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,280
and do that stuff. Hopefully we're going to do the

980
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,679
holiday stroll together this year too. That's been a big

981
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,719
tradition of ours for the last three years, so I'm

982
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,239
hoping we're going to do that. But I also have

983
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,320
I have an album with eight Visa in the vault

984
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,280
that we're going to do soon.

985
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,079
Speaker 3: Really.

986
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been working on it for like the last

987
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,079
two years or so, and once again it's just a

988
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:33,719
timing thing, and uh, we're gonna we got plans to

989
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,920
do that soon. I have an EP with a producer

990
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,800
from Maine. His name is Suede Breaks, and it's really cool.

991
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,280
He's a music teacher and so he actually played all

992
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880
of the instruments on the record and made these songs

993
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,639
and gave them to me. And I've had these for

994
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,440
a while too, and so I'm gonna that's that's another

995
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,039
project that we've gotten the vault.

996
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:55,679
Speaker 6: Uh.

997
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: There's a producer from Maine named Graphic Melee if you've

998
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:04,159
heard of him. Yeah, he's a multi instrumentalist, producer, DJ rapper,

999
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,639
but he's from Portland and he hosts a show called

1000
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:10,199
Stereo Dreams every month that's like a producer showcase. Cool,

1001
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,000
and he sent me a batch of beats. So him

1002
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:14,880
and I have a really cool project that's going to

1003
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,679
be coming out as well. Yeah, the band and I

1004
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,360
are writing some music that like so right now, the band,

1005
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,920
we play like songs from my catalog that we're working

1006
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
on writing some new music that'll be like indicative of

1007
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:31,559
just the band. Okay, So we got that stuff coming.

1008
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:34,719
And then I also have a project that's going to

1009
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,599
be coming out. I don't know if it'll be late

1010
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,320
this year or next year, but I have an album

1011
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,159
coming out. It's called Cranberry Cody and I'm going to

1012
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,679
be playing most of the instruments on that. Oh, it's

1013
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,920
going to be a little more of like a indie

1014
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,599
rock alt rock kind of instrumentation with my like rap

1015
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,719
vocal stylings.

1016
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 4: Oh, very cool to it. Yeah, yeah, No, you got

1017
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,199
a lot in the pipeline. That's fantastic exactly. And where

1018
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,440
should people go on line to keep up with everything

1019
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,320
you're doing?

1020
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 5: So everything is Cody dash Pope dot com, c O.

1021
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,280
D Y Dash, p O p E dot com or

1022
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Hellhound Publishing dot com. But that Hellhound is the universe.

1023
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Hey, it's great to see you man,

1024
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,639
Thank you so much, thank you so much, so much.

1025
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:18,039
I'm so grateful.

1026
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:20,639
Speaker 5: You guys have given me a platform so many different times.

1027
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,920
So it's really cool that.

1028
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,119
Speaker 7: I love having you come in.

1029
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1030
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 5: You know, it's like New Hampshire is a small place

1031
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,480
and there's not there's not many radio stations like this

1032
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,800
where you can just go and pop up and perform

1033
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,599
and talk and promote yourself and and you know, it's

1034
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,960
it's really special what you guys do. So I'm grateful

1035
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,360
to be part of it for sure.

1036
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.

1037
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Well, we're happy to have here. I appreciate that very much. Absolutely.

1038
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,760
And Jenny, you've got a big week ahead of you.

1039
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,480
You want to plug your website so people know where

1040
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:48,880
to keep up with everything you're doing.

1041
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,519
Speaker 7: Good luck, Yes, come check me out at gencopy dot com.

1042
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:55,159
J e n n C O f f uy dot com.

1043
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,199
You can check out the article from my new first

1044
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,440
byline on Common Dreams. Yeah, up there on the blog

1045
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,840
and yeah, I might be doing some stuff this week,

1046
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,639
so you might want to, you know, check it out

1047
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,000
maybe midweek or so.

1048
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, yes, definitely good. And if you are listening

1049
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,480
live on Saturday, coming up at three pm today, this

1050
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,599
is not on the radio station. This will strictly be online,

1051
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,800
but a bonus fourth hour of Matt Connorton Unleashed that

1052
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,119
will strictly be online, so keep your eye on the

1053
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,480
social media. I'll be interviewing a Senate candidate, Karishma Manzur.

1054
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,559
Speaker 3: Yes, she is gonna be norster and I think she's wonderful.

1055
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 6: Yep.

1056
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,519
Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing a stream with her today at

1057
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,559
three pm live, so keep an eye on the Matt

1058
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:42,159
Connorton Unleashed social media channels. And if you don't get

1059
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:43,840
to see it live, it will be in the podcast feed.

1060
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,880
And again that is completely separate from the radio station,

1061
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,360
so that is online only, and then also online only

1062
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,639
a little bit later in the day, I'll be doing

1063
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:54,760
a live episode of Tough Bumps with Eric Pilcher and

1064
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,199
we'll be talking about the Rajah Jackson situation. That whole

1065
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,480
debacle attempted in my view, but seriously, but hey, but

1066
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,519
Eric and I are going to talk about that later today.

1067
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,840
So a lot's going on, but I'm gonna sneak in

1068
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,639
this track layers I think from as Cody Pope and

1069
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:17,039
Byron g from Giant Steps in Gate City and we'll

1070
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,360
we'll play us out with that. But Cody again, thank

1071
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,679
you so.

1072
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,039
Speaker 6: Much, Thank you guys.

1073
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,039
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and we'll talk to you a little bit later.

1074
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:58,280
Bye everybody, Bye bye.

1075
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Legas.

1076
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:53,199
Speaker 1: I'm complicated like a game of multiple plaguas. Everybody Kilway's

1077
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:55,679
got the talking on a faith get they needs and

1078
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,559
barely got time to seek you later that you expected

1079
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:00,599
to be up and out to Wagan not the dig

1080
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:03,320
if my brain mostly got for the deep end. It's

1081
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,280
all the same, no looking to what's the weekend? Pretty

1082
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,239
judgment to my monst. I got some weak friends hate

1083
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,480
then I see the cat went inside of these men.

1084
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,159
Never could settle when I know I could do better

1085
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,119
dead or the debt is still chasing me with burrettos.

1086
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: Hot is the kettle. The water won't stop to settle.

1087
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,159
Speaker 1: Metal, the letters and dead on the slow pedals past

1088
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,360
that Nick now pragmatic with us a grand year making

1089
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,679
moves to what I do le Sasa dancers althready. You

1090
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,400
know we could be New Hampshire's answer, but someone brock

1091
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:35,599
with us till we making cures for cancer legas. Why

1092
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,360
it all gotta be so complicated by my brain cave

1093
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,800
when I know that I should make it PLoP maps

1094
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,199
for others for stuff on my feet, naked legus upon legers,

1095
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,000
The puzzles are deep and singers. Why it all gotta

1096
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,320
be all so complicated by my brain cave when I

1097
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,880
know that I should make it plot maps for others

1098
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,719
to stuff on my.

1099
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: Feet, naked legus upon legers, the puzzles on deep of singers.

1100
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: The brain is a machine that's a labor red like

1101
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,840
trying to draw a map well inside a labyrinth. Emotional roller,

1102
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,559
coastic kinky can't involve standing stronger.

1103
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: Some days it feels like man O fall hard.

1104
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: To teach when life's a race on the learning curve,

1105
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,239
I'm trying to reach the peak with how I'm burning words.

1106
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Always seek to speak something to see the light.

1107
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: Also, my own darkness can always be the right one

1108
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,519
in the argument often so what's down USh and communication

1109
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:28,400
gets so off we started monishing Administer bren Hayt instead

1110
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,599
of seeking to understand while we hate another, instead of

1111
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,199
lending the hand. Damned if we don't break the cycles

1112
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:37,119
that We've been chained by, the same mistakes that I've made,

1113
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:40,199
I've been drained by, been so long since I can say.

1114
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:42,960
I was saying, Man, I know there's legas in my brain.

1115
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:44,840
Need to change plays legas?

1116
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,039
Speaker 2: Why it all got to be so complicated? Why my

1117
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,320
brain cave when I know that I should make it?

1118
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,159
Speaker 1: My maps for others with stuff on my feet, naked

1119
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,760
legus upon legos. The puzzles are deepest sagris. Why it

1120
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,599
all gotta BeO so complicated? While my brain cave when

1121
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,800
I know that I should make it, can PLoP maps

1122
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,199
for others, but stumble my feet naked legas upon legos,

1123
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:14,320
The puzzles are deepest sacred. You're listening to mattconnorton Unleash

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wm n H ninety five point three