WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:09.439 By Billy Cunning in the Great American and coming up 2 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.720 later as Rets manager Terry Francona brought the prospects for 3 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:15.320 the twenty twenty five Reds. And also we have later 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.000 on scheduled Mowagger to talk about Xavier basketball and what's 5 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:20.480 happening in the in March tournament games and in the 6 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:23.719 studio with me. It's viavek Ramaswami Viveke. Welcome again to 7 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:25.960 the Bill Cunning mshow vivic. How are you good to 8 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.079 be here in person this time? And this is unbelieved 9 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:28.960 you're sitting right here. 10 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.719 Yeah, I love it. Oh, it's better this way. 11 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:31.920 Let's get into the issues. 12 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.200 You were born and raised to hear Springfield township, even 13 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.399 Dale went to Princeton. And the thing that I think 14 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:40.439 many people want to know is why are you running 15 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:43.359 for governor. You're a billionaire, You're connected to the Trumpster, 16 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.560 You're at the inaugural right next to the president. You 17 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.640 have all the things going for You're a young guy, 18 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.479 like thirty eight or thirty nine years old, and uh, 19 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:55.159 and in politics is something that most guys your age 20 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:57.200 don't want to do it. You have him money, you 21 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.200 got your family, you got your stuff to do. Dot 22 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:01.719 why are you running for governor? 23 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.000 He raised some great points, But the reason I'm running 24 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.239 is I'm filled with gratitude to our country and to 25 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.560 our state. I've lived in American dream at a scale 26 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.159 that my parents would have never imagined when they came 27 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:15.920 here to Cincinnati forty five years ago, and I'm on 28 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:17.920 a mission to make sure we can actually pass that 29 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.599 on to my two kids and their generation. And I'm 30 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.400 worried that isn't going to happen unless we have leaders 31 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.480 who actually step up. 32 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:24.079 Now. 33 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.319 Prison Trump is ushering in a golden age for the country, 34 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.200 and I'm incredibly proud to watch what he's doing. But 35 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.200 what a lot of what he's doing is shifting responsibility 36 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.840 back to the states and to the people where it belongs. 37 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:37.359 Look at the shutdown of the Department of Education just 38 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.239 last week as a good example. That's a great first step, 39 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:42.599 but it's then going to fall on the states and 40 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.079 the people. That's what our founders envisioned to get the 41 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.159 job done. So Billy, that highlighted to me that being 42 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:50.680 a governor was the right step for me to make 43 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.480 a positive impact on the country, and also to do 44 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:55.159 it in the state where I was born and raised 45 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.400 where I'm raising my kids, and my vision for Ohio 46 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:00.439 isn't just for us to be one one of the 47 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:03.560 better states in the Midwest, which in fairness we are 48 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:05.439 right now. I don't want us to be one of 49 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.560 the better states in the Midwest. I want us to 50 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.240 be the best state in the country to raise a family, 51 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.240 to start a business, to create generate wealth and keep 52 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.520 that wealth, and to give our kids the same conviction 53 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.800 that Neil Armstrong and John Glenn and the Wright brothers 54 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.120 had when they grew up in Ohio. That's what I 55 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.680 want to bring back. And I think it's going to 56 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:26.400 take a different generation of leadership in the. 57 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:30.199 Citevag Ohio is unique on the northern shore with lots 58 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.400 of water, southern shore lots of water. We have flat 59 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.159 land because of the applies to the seene Age when 60 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.680 the Great Glacier came down from the North Pole and 61 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.240 they scraped Ohio clean all the way to the Seven 62 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.560 Hills of Cincinnati. That's why it's flat. Great farming community. 63 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:48.960 And I see eight major cities. I see manufacturing, I 64 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:52.439 see interstate highway systems, I see public education. Within the 65 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.960 sound of my voice got my University, got NKU, got Xavier. 66 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.520 You see Indiana, you have Thomas Moore, you have Mount 67 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:00.680 st You got all of these colleges ready to go. 68 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.280 But Ohio is losing population and I don't know if 69 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.840 there's a GDP in Ohio. I can't imagine it is 70 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.759 going up a lot. Is what's wrong with Ohio? 71 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.280 Well, I would say, at our core, nothing's wrong with Ohio. 72 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.560 At our core, we're the greatest state, at the heart 73 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.280 of the greatest nation known to mankind. We have the 74 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.879 same God given gifts we did when we led the 75 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:25.919 first Industrial Revolution, same fertile farmland, same natural resources underneath 76 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.719 our ground, including oil and natural gas in our own state, 77 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.759 our geographic position. You think about this way better than 78 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:36.439 Florida or Texas. We've got sixty percent of North America's 79 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.759 population within a single day's drive of where you and 80 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:42.960 I are sitting right now. So God has blessed our 81 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.800 state with every gift we could wish for to be 82 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.840 the leading state in the country. All we have to 83 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.439 do is actually start believing in ourselves again. You want 84 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.000 to know, you ask me what's wrong. It's a crisis 85 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.360 of self confidence in this state. And I think we 86 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.680 have every reason to believe in ourselves. There are some 87 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.680 changes we need to make. We need to become a 88 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:02.639 zero income tax state. I think we need to bring 89 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.400 down the regulatory burden to create new jobs and to 90 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.120 build new businesses in the state. But at the core 91 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.759 of the natural foundations of Ohio, we have every reason 92 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.800 to believe in ourselves. The problem right now is we 93 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.240 have a population decline issue. And you talk about jobs, jobs, jobs, 94 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:19.519 you and I were talking about that before. 95 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.319 I agree with that. 96 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:23.519 We don't have enough good people who are able to 97 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.000 fill those jobs that new businesses may bring to our state. 98 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.560 And here's why. Part of it is we have a 99 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.079 fertility issue. People are having fewer kids in our state. 100 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:32.959 Part of it is when they do have kids, those 101 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:36.279 kids go out to other states once they get education 102 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.879 here to live their American dreams somewhere else. That creates 103 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.399 a demographic issue where we have Actually the death rate 104 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.759 is going up with an older population and younger people 105 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.439 leaving the state. We're number thirty eight now within people 106 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:52.680 moving in versus out Texas thirty eight. Yes, Florida's number one. 107 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.199 Texas is number two. We are number thirty eight. Billy 108 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.879 in twenty twenty, we reached an all time low at 109 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.240 that time. Now it's even lower for our fertility rate. 110 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.319 We have more people moving out of our state than in. 111 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.639 We're one of the only red states that's in that category. 112 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.560 That's got to change, and it's got to change. 113 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:11.920 Educations and crisis. 114 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.040 You went to Princeton, Yes, I read in the newspapers 115 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.079 that if Princeton fails the levy in a month or two, 116 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.680 they're going to shut down two elementary schools, one of 117 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:21.600 what you probably went to. 118 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:22.800 It's also had the money. 119 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.360 It's very personal to me, so Roberty Lucas Intermediate School 120 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.920 RELIS out in Sharonville. I went there for sixth grade 121 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.079 at a magnet program. Relis shut down. RELIS doesn't exist 122 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.240 as a school today. And actually, I mean the teacher there, 123 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.160 Missus Kenney, she changed my life. She passed away a 124 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.240 couple of years ago in an accident, but she was 125 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:40.519 somebody who saw potential in me that I didn't even 126 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.920 know I had, lit a fire under my feet, got 127 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.360 me to work harder. I credit her for my journey 128 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.800 in living the American dream in the way that I have. 129 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:52.399 But we're not getting teachers like Missus Kinney anymore because 130 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:56.279 there is no meritocracy in compensation. Right, I've lived the 131 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.800 American dream. You have Donald Trump, Elon Musk, you could 132 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.560 have a wide range of bezos, Bill Gates. They've all 133 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:03.959 lived the American dream. And that's great, that rags to 134 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.480 riches story through business. But I think the question we 135 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.600 got to asked Billy is do we really think a 136 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.480 public school teacher in the year twenty twenty five in 137 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:16.720 the state of Ohio can live the American dream? 138 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:18.600 And we don't make enough money? 139 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.120 Right exactly right now? The answer to that question, sadly 140 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:21.600 is now. 141 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:22.839 Five thousand dollars. 142 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:24.199 It's unbelievable. That is the starting side. 143 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.120 It's a little under forty five thousand dollars the average 144 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.680 starting salary for a new teacher across America, and this 145 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.319 is true in Ohio too. That's got to change, but 146 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.040 we've got to do it according to a meritocracy, which 147 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.319 is what we don't have in our public schools. The 148 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.040 best teachers deserve to be paid a lot more than 149 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.720 they are right now, as determined by parental assessments. Parents 150 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.759 know whether their kids are really getting that right educational 151 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.399 experience or not. Peer assessments right, even principles and other 152 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:51.439 teachers in the school know who's doing a good job, 153 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:53.879 who's carrying their weight, and who isn't. And then also 154 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:55.759 we got to look at the proficiency of our students. 155 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.360 I mean, right now, seventy five percent of eighth graders. 156 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.199 Just to think about this for a second, three out 157 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:06.600 of four eighth graders are not proficient in math. That's unacceptable. 158 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.079 You got kids in China, on average, are four years 159 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.959 ahead of their counterpart in the US. What does that 160 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.519 mean a seventh grader here is performing at the same 161 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:21.519 academic performance as a third grader in China. That doesn't 162 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.240 work for me. I'm speaking as an Ohioan, as an American, 163 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.000 as a parent. Well, here's how we're gonna do it. Well. 164 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.360 First of all, bring back the best teachers in meritocracy 165 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.120 in our schools, roll up our sleeves and actually get 166 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:36.839 into the curriculum, re emphasizing math, reading, writing, and critical 167 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:43.279 thinking instead of a lot of this sel dei indoctrination, victimhood, psychology, 168 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.480 reward performance. Get the cell phones out of the classroom, amen. 169 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.560 Bring back physical education which helps mental health at a 170 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.759 young age. Starting pe in kindergarten. Bring back the presidential 171 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.759 fitness test that you and I both had when we 172 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.319 were going through school. Yes, that includes the pull ups 173 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.600 I did mind this morning, I promise you. And that 174 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.839 doesn't mean it's going to be for everybody passing in 175 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.079 the same way, but it sets a standard for what 176 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.879 you actually want to achieve. Think about civic education. We're 177 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.560 totally missing civic education today. I think that every kid 178 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.920 who graduates from a high school in this state of 179 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.759 public high school should have to pass the same Civics 180 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:23.000 test that every legal immigrant has to pass before they 181 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.920 become a naturalized citizen. That's something we should expect of our 182 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.360 high school seniors, at least before they graduate from high school. 183 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.439 I want the Pledge of allegiance every morning with a 184 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:34.519 moment of silence to allow kids to fill that vacuum 185 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.679 of purpose and meaning in their heart, emphasize actual achievement, 186 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.440 and reward it both for the teachers and for the students. 187 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.799 It's a culture of achievement that I want to bring 188 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.399 back to our educational system. And I still think we 189 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.200 have time. We can write this ship, we can turn 190 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.200 this around. I want to lead Ohio Billy to be 191 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.279 the top state in the country and in the world 192 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.919 to give our kids that world class education. 193 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.919 Algosoms years ago. I can recall a big Intel plant. 194 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:04.279 It was going to generate tens of thousands of jobs 195 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.879 in and around Columbus, much fanfare. Intel the CEO is 196 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.039 now fired. Came I'm told there's billions of dollars worth 197 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.679 of infrastructure inside the ground. You can't see what happened 198 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:16.960 to the Intel plant in central Ohio. 199 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.679 Look, I want to be blunt about this. It's a 200 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.440 disappointment that it's on a five year delay now. The 201 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.759 timeline that we were supposed to have started seeing chips 202 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.080 being produced to that factories pushed out for five years. 203 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:29.480 There's a lot of reasons behind that. 204 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:31.679 My goal is not to curse the darkness, or to 205 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.799 blame anybody who came before me, or to blame anybody 206 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.000 on the outside. My goal is how do we actually 207 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.279 fix Ohio to make sure that the commitments that are 208 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.159 made to our state are actually followed through on a 209 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.600 timeline that serves the people of our state as well. 210 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.679 I also, as the governor, want to ask companies, frankly, 211 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.879 what can we be doing better as a state in 212 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.120 terms of our regulatory burden, cutting red tape, cutting the 213 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.840 tax burden, cutting the tax burden, and also putting more 214 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.679 money in people's pockets that improves the workforce issues that 215 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.639 we have in our state. So part of this is 216 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.360 the next governor of the state. I'm not looking to 217 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.759 blame anybody else. I'm looking to look ourselves in the 218 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.399 mirror and say, what can we be doing better to 219 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.519 make sure that something like this doesn't happen again. With 220 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.399 five year delays baked in at the last second for 221 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.919 when they're supposed to have been producing instead of being 222 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:18.960 pushed out five years. 223 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.639 Is that a good thing? 224 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:20.840 Now? 225 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.279 I'm disappointed about it, but I'm also going to make 226 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.480 sure that we fix the issues that stop the companies 227 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.679 from being able to follow through on those commitments as well. 228 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:29.840 Veg Ramaswami. 229 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.759 A few months ago, the powers that be told me 230 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:34.840 that you went down to Amar A Lago and met 231 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.559 with President Trump and he kind of wanted you to 232 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.840 run for the Senate. He wanted to appoint you to 233 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.360 the Senate, to the open seat of JD Vance and 234 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.519 you start work tomorrow, start work on Monday, and you 235 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.120 looked into the eye and said, let me think about it, 236 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.919 and you came back and said, no, I do not 237 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.080 want to be a US Senator and he said what why? 238 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.279 And then you said, I want to be governor. And 239 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.919 then the guy pigeonholed to be the next governor senator. Now, John, 240 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.879 you said, went went down tomorrow, lag go with with 241 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.639 Governor DeWine And he had to be talked into running 242 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:06.200 for the Senate because the appointment was tomorrow. Why did 243 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.039 you turn down the US Senate seat of JD Vance 244 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.320 to run for a position that's like almost two years 245 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:14.519 away as opposed to taking the Senate immediately. 246 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.000 Well, look, I think that at a high level. 247 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.000 First of all, I want to thank President Trump for 248 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.080 setting such a good tone from the top. He won 249 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.159 with a decisive mandate that he's now delivering on, and 250 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.080 I'm optimistic about what he's going to accomplish. He and 251 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.679 I have had some great conversations over the years and 252 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.000 over the last year in particular, and what I shared 253 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.159 with him is, like him, I'm an executive, right. I 254 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.919 like to get things done, not just through the sausage 255 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.080 making of being you know, one of one hundred. So 256 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.080 it wasn't really my vision. But at the same time, 257 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.960 I told President Trump, I was open to serving this 258 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.639 country and whatever way would have a biggest impact. He 259 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.440 asked me, in my heart, what was that for me, 260 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.440 And in my heart, it was to be the next 261 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.480 government of the Senate. They are you can get a 262 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.639 lot done. All I do is talk and give great speech. 263 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.639 And you go to speech, you're fine, but you don't 264 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.320 get anything done when you're the govern I've been in 265 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.080 the governor's mansion, I've had dinner with them, and you 266 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.039 can actually order or demand something happen and it occurs. 267 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.279 Is that the reason for. 268 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.559 Me, it's about exactly the idea that you're going to 269 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.039 see the impact that you have. Right my older son 270 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:14.440 is going to be in high school by the time 271 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.879 I'm done with two terms as governor. To me, the 272 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:19.559 ability for him to grow up in a state where 273 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:22.559 the changes that we made to this state, the positive changes, 274 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.159 is something that my kids in their generation are going 275 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.360 to grow up in and I can see that impact 276 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.559 even on a daily basis. To me, that's rewarding. I'm 277 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:35.600 also somebody who believes in action. Actions speak louder than words. Okay, 278 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.240 there's a lot of people who can, as I said, 279 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.600 curse the darkness. There's fewer who can actually create value 280 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.399 and get things done. I'm a businessman. I've built multiple 281 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.519 successful businesses. I know how to select great people, put 282 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.200 them in positions, and give them deliverables and actually expect 283 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.559 hard results. I think we need more people who are 284 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.200 in the private sector to take their time in public 285 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.919 service to lead as executives, and particularly in this state, 286 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.240 we have such an opportunity Billy, first of all, to 287 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:06.759 just start marketing Ohio to the rest of the country. 288 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.200 That's something that frankly, I believe we have room to 289 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.360 do a lot better on. There's a lot to love 290 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.480 about the state. We have a beautiful northern coast, a 291 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.240 beautiful shoreline. We've got a national park in this state. 292 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.519 We've got the Ohio River to the Mississippi, the same 293 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.840 Erie Canal to New York City, a great geographic position. 294 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.120 We got to market that to the rest of the 295 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.639 country where people don't even know about the gifts that 296 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.639 Ohio has, the oil and natural gas underneath our ground. 297 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:31.919 When I go travel this country and talk about Ohio 298 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.279 in that way, it's eye opening for people. In fact, 299 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.679 there's even people I've met since I've started running for governor. 300 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.960 People from New Jersey to South Carolina, to Texas to 301 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:44.200 Florida who have told me personally they are already starting 302 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.399 the process of moving back to Ohio because they expect 303 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.919 me to be governor and to deliver on the changes 304 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:50.879 that I'm actually running on. 305 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.200 When you get rid of the income tax, Indiana wants 306 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:54.120 to do it. Many states. 307 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.559 I think nineteen states don't have a state income tax, 308 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.639 and you'll lower the property tax, especially for seniors income 309 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:01.799 How do you pay the bills? 310 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.360 So first, so there's eight states there's zero income tax states. 311 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.200 If eight other states have done it, I want Ohio 312 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.000 to be next on the list and to lead the way. 313 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.360 Property taxes, we got it. They've gotten way too high 314 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.000 in the state. I mean, the truth of the matter 315 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.480 is if you're paying as much on your principal repayment 316 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:19.200 of your mortgage as you are in your property taxes, 317 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:21.679 it makes it feel a heck of a lot, like 318 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.559 the land that you own is really just a lease 319 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.799 from the government, and that's unjust. Okay, So we got 320 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.639 to put a cap on both those things. How are 321 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:30.840 you going to pay for it? Well, the number one 322 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.320 answer is the economic growth that you drive through our state. 323 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:36.600 That's gonna increase our sales tax revenue. That's gonna increase 324 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.200 the other revenue flowing into our state's bottom line as well. 325 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.559 And the other thing, Billy is, let's be really honest. 326 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.399 Are we wasting a lot of money in areas where 327 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.000 we shouldn't be. The uncomfortable answer to that question is 328 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:47.399 you know it, Yes. 329 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:51.000 Four letters doge four letters Ohio. Well, you bring DOSEE 330 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:51.639 to Ohio. 331 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:53.440 And the way we're going to do it in Ohio, 332 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:55.600 I want to be clear about this, is by putting 333 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.960 more money in people's pockets. That's what bringing it to 334 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.000 Ohio means is take the money that's being wasted on 335 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.679 things that don't affect your life and quite literally put 336 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.440 it in the pocket of Ohioans. Put it in the 337 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:10.200 bank account of our kids that can, with the benefit 338 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.320 of compound interest, allow them to graduate with six figure 339 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.759 graduation gifts when they get out of high school if 340 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.759 they've actually had that money compounding. And we're going to 341 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.720 come out with some very specific solutions on this, Billy 342 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.039 in the very near term. But bringing down the income 343 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.840 tax eventually down to zero, bringing down the property tax 344 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.399 burden are examples of ways that My vision for the 345 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.320 state is take the money that's being spent in ways 346 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.679 that don't help your lives to put it in your 347 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.720 pocket where it can help your lives. Create an economic 348 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:40.639 boom in the state of a kind that we haven't 349 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:44.039 seen since the Second Industrial Revolution, and have a population 350 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:48.080 boom in this state, so we can have not only jobs, jobs, jobs, 351 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.960 but jobs filled, jobs filled, jobs filled right here in 352 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:53.720 the state of Ohio. 353 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.440 How do it? Lastly, how do we judge you? 354 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:57.639 Say you're elected, your way up in the polls like 355 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.279 thirty percent, you have all the endorsements of every everyone 356 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.960 that matters in the state of Ohio. If I you 357 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.960 and I together in four years, I just signed a 358 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.720 four year contract extension. Yeah, if you and I together 359 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.879 in four years, how will I judge reveg Ramaswami on 360 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:12.159 whether or not you succeeded. 361 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.440 That's a good question. So it's not just the GDP growth. 362 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.519 We'll have GDP growth. 363 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:19.000 The metrics I want you to judge me on are 364 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.279 the number of people moving into our state versus out 365 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.840 of thirty eighth, not thirty eighth. Right now we're number 366 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.559 thirty eight. Florida's number one. Texas is number two. I 367 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.879 want Ohio to be number one. That's how I want 368 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:31.799 you to judge me. We're one of the few red 369 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.480 states that has more people moving out than in. That 370 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.399 will change when I'm governor. So I want you to 371 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.600 judge me on the number of people moving in versus out, 372 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.799 the number of kids born into families in our state, 373 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.919 the number of those kids who go on to remain 374 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:50.600 in our state to pursue their American dream in our 375 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.519 state of Ohio. Those are my metrics, and I want 376 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.120 to lead this state to be not just one of 377 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.639 the better states in our region. I want to lead 378 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.000 this state to be the top state in the United 379 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:03.919 States of America on those metrics. And to those who 380 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.640 say that's too ambitious, you know what, it was not 381 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.279 long ago that Ohio was that state at the turn 382 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.880 of the last century. That was us in the nineteen fifties, 383 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.519 that was US when six of the top fifteen wealthiest 384 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.200 cities in America were right here in Ohio. I want 385 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.039 to be the governor that restores Ohio back to greatness, 386 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.799 not just to be a regional leader, but a national 387 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.119 leader so our kids can be proud of it and 388 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.680 can live the American dream. By staying here instead of leaving. 389 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:32.000 Have you spoken to Mike DeWine. 390 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:32.559 I have. 391 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:33.440 I've got to know him. 392 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.440 How's your relationship with him? Good? 393 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.319 From my standpoint, I've got to know him. I look 394 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:40.319 forward to building on the foundation that he has laid. Look, 395 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.720 there's a lot to like about the early movement towards 396 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.720 economic development. So you're going to hear from me, Billy, 397 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.720 as I leave this state, nothing but praise for the 398 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.319 good parts of what my predecessor left me. I want 399 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.240 to build on those foundations. But it's about where are 400 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.480 we run in two where are we leading this state? 401 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.480