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Speaker 1: Every Tuesday during the course of the baseball season, you

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hear from this man at twelve thirty, give or take,

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depending on if he's going out to get lunch or

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something forgets about us.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest thing I just found out about our

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manager Joe was spotted ross is that uh, he is

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personally responsible for the Rockets lost the.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: He's all me, yeah, I thought he's going to be

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an easy win, but things he can go their way.

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Speaker 5: That night.

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Speaker 3: You start doing i'ma sart going to y'alls games against

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the A's and you know what I do.

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Speaker 4: I do have to say that you know when I

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first started going watch him a couple of years ago,

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and where they're at now, it's, uh is a very

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much improved team. You know those guys just you know,

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they're they were young a couple of years ago. They're

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still young, but they're.

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Speaker 5: More polish and actually pretty good basketball team. A while.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, it's a lot of fun. Let me ask you,

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I didn't win our actress, what is your off season?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Turn your microphon up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: There, there we go.

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Speaker 3: What do you doing the off season?

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Speaker 4: You know what I do some traveling with the family,

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and and and I go and catch a couple of

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uh couple of sports events. You know, went to a

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few uh games, did the Rockets, you know, went over

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to Austin and watched up you know, nithseity of Texas

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basketball team, the women's basketball team. So you know, my

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my daughters, they like to like to do stuff like that,

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winning watch the the soccer games. So so we you know,

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we can't say no to sports events.

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Speaker 1: So it's I can always find aj. It didn't take

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me very long about it hour north of town, you

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know what I'm saying. But but you're all over the place. Yes, yes,

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I do.

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Speaker 5: I enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna hold this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask one question, Ross, you get one, and

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then we are done talking about one. Let's get to

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l and then I swear to God we will not

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ask you about it again until the regular season. But

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but if it's gonna have to come up, yeah, he

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has to.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 1: He is the consonant pro. You've talked about this for

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our period of time. You told us this off air,

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and it's worthy of mentioning on air. This is not

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something you just pushed upon. Are you earned it? All

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not about him catching fly balls. He's a grown up,

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he's been around forever, done it. Are you concerned about

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that runner trying to score from third to home?

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Speaker 3: It's that gonna be something that you're gonna keep a

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keen eye on. When it comes to his work in

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left field, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not concerned about it. I think he will. He will

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figure that out and he'll he'll get it. So us

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being as a middle infielders, you know exactly where you

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need to line up, you know exactly what the runner

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behind you is doing. Now he's the one executing that

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first throw. So that's that's the transision that he needs

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to make, and I'm sure that he'll he'll do that.

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So we're doing this by faces, right. I think Phase

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one was you know at Diking Park. We we've worked

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like for almost three weeks, fly balls, we deal our work, we.

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Speaker 5: Did some video, We work on his techniques.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we we talked about the challenging are

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the challenging our wall is Now Phase two is spring training.

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Now is the sun the elements right? The sun the

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win you know now we'll you know it. The base runners,

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it's the strategy. It's runners trying to go first to third,

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trying to challenge him. So we're going through all that

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for the next two weeks, and but I'm sure that

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he'll he'll figure it out.

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Speaker 5: We're going to give it everything we got.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's his mindset, it's where it needs to

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be and and I'm sure that we If this works,

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it just makes our team that much better.

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Speaker 3: He's such a smart player.

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Speaker 1: He's got baseball DNA in his in his in his blood.

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I think this is not just for him, it's for

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any but you put out in left field. Baltimore is

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gonna present some challenges. Detroit will post some challenge, Cleveland

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a little bit. But if you knock down, if you're

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a if you're a minute made park, you'll know the nuance,

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the cracks and how the ball lands, hiking park excuse me,

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hit me next time there we go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is, right. That's not just for Hosal.

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Speaker 4: For anybody, it's for anybody that you know. The challenges

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that wall is a challenge for any one. Family park

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is challenging for anyone. You can have ten years experience

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to five years experience. There's things that he's going to

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have to learn. But for us we believe that he

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can do it. There's confidence that he can do it.

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to do to do the things that we expect them

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Speaker 5: And you know, we got five weeks here to continue

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to work on this.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we're not going to completely abandon second base,

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but I think by him playing some let field really

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opens the door for us.

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Speaker 5: You do other things on the baseball field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of learning as you go, take us through

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how you're doing. Man, your journey the last year. Obviously

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the start wasn't the way that you wanted to go.

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the team retooled this year.

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Speaker 3: How are you have you.

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Speaker 5: Been going through this?

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Speaker 2: And now in your in your second year as the

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head man?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 4: So you know I had some time to you know,

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sit down and and and kind of take all in

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what twenty twenty four meant for me personally and for

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our team. And you know, during that time of reflection,

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you you start writing down things that we could have

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done better, things that I could have done better. And

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we need to be proud of twenty twenty four. You know,

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we need not finish the race and what we wanted

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to but we ran a strong race. We did what

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we wanted to do, which was win the West.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I also told our club that, you know, our our

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team was tested like never before. You know, our culture

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got tested, our you know, our commitment to winning got

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tested from the very beginning, and we prevail. I think

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it was It was a good season for us, despite

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you know, early exit of the playoff.

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Speaker 5: But I think we did some things well.

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Speaker 4: And as a manager, I'm proud of the way we

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battled back about the way you know, I stay calm

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and and have confidence on my club to to get

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us to where we wanted to get to, and I

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expect it to be, you know, a better better twenty

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twenty five were ready for the challenge, and I think

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twenty twenty four was the learning experience for all of us.

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Speaker 1: If I went back and we went back and looked

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at the games and maybe talked to you right after

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the deficit was ten games, tell me at that point

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what you were thinking and does Dana come to you

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and say, do we want to start selling because look,

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he maintained a confidence you did as well. But reality

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sits in that when when when that deference gets to ten,

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that was that's as ugly of numbers against.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt, you know what one thing about uh, you

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know you asked about Dana, he never used the word sale.

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Speaker 5: Never did.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge thing.

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Speaker 5: It's huge, And it just goes to we really believe

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on our team.

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Speaker 4: And we always felt like we still had ninety one

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hundred games to fight back, right we we we we

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felt like once of our guys came back and you know,

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our offense was going to click in, and we know

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that we had to push in there and and and

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we did. But you know, you know, they never there's

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the word sold, never came in and play and and

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Speaker 5: I'm glad that we didn't. And I'm glad that.

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Speaker 4: We added Kikuchi, who was a big boost to our

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to our team doing that stretch.

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Speaker 2: How excited are you to write three Christian Walker in

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the lineup almost every day? Told happened last year at

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Speaker 5: You know what, the H is not an option there?

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Speaker 4: You know, we he's the best defender in the game

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over that first he will probably need a day off

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here and there, not many, but uh, but I think

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that what Christian brings to our club is this level

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of you know, you know, leadership, his ability to hit

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the ball to the ballpark, quality of bat something that

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little bit o our offense kind of up and down

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and and and how we chase some pitches. So him

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our offense. But Christian is a pro, and I'm excited

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to have him. Let's get to the outfield. Jane can

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cover everything. Yeah, you're moving chance to right field.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say how long is the leash,

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because look, everybody's got a leash of some level to

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performance wise, I would say, if we took away the

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left field situation, what's the thing that probably not alarming,

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but we're looking to see productivity wise? Is what you're

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nothing the guys can do defensively, but it's on the

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offensive end. What were some things you told to both

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those guys because we kind of joke with Jake a

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little bit about his mate was spectacular. Yeah, we need

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that Jake Myers for not to be that o high

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number like it was, but level out a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with Jake, you know, and and I

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have this conversation with Jake during the offseason and we

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touch on here and a couple of days ago. You know,

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it's not you know that that may carry it. You

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know that's repeating may and juju. No, it's just you know,

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when there's when there's a drop down which all players have,

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that it can be you know, two hundred points in

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Speaker 5: You know there's got to be a walk.

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Speaker 4: You know, he can do things where he could lay

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down a bunt, this quality of bat where the contribution

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is still there. Because I told him this, I said, listen,

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you know when I'm looking at my lineup card and

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the game, it's when the game is closed.

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Speaker 5: We have to lead.

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Speaker 4: I want to keep you in the game because your

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defense matters. You meet her and you know your defense

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is game changing. But when the game is on the

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line and you're not swinging the bat the way you're

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capable of, I need to make a move. I need

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to try to create some runs. And and now I'm

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I'm I'm taking my best defender out of the game

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because I'm trying to, you know, tack the lead and

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and I don't and I don't and I told him

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I don't. I don't like doing that. But I told him,

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if I have to do it, I will do it again.

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you know, you know you mentioned the leash and I

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told Mac, I said, Mac, last year, I think the

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leash was long, and maybe this year the leache might

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not be that long.

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Speaker 5: So it's early production. I want to see you.

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Speaker 4: Contribute to to you know, to our offense and and

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and putting some good at bats from the very beginning.

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that could give me an opportunity to platoony if I

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have to, but I'm going to you know, I want

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Mac and Myers to take over those those jobs.

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Speaker 5: And and and do what they're capable of doing.

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Speaker 3: What what do you man?

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Speaker 2: It has to be a hard job, because what do

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you look for when you win to pull the leash?

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Because as you know, baseball is a game where Hall

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of famers can struggle.

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Speaker 5: For fifty games or more. So what are you looking for?

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To say?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is time to make a change. The conversations.

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Is it how the bats are looking?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 5: I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 4: You know, it first starts with, you know, with a

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conversation in screen training. The players want to know their

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roles and how big that leads. Yes, right, you know

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you mentioned hall of famers. We we have have We

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have quite a few here that have the chance to

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be Hall of famers. So obviously those guys are in

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there and and they're gonna they're gonna put their numbers,

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but put these young players who are trying to figure out,

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you know, in big leagues, and you got to balance

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that out with wins and losses. They got to show

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you from the very from the very first aid that

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the quality of bats are there, that they're making adjustments

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that they're not, you know, ignoring kind of the things

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that we wanted them to work on.

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Speaker 5: But the bats got to be productive.

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Speaker 4: You got to hit the ball hard, you gotta walk,

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you gotta you know, those are bats need to mean

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something for you to be able to stay in there.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, Joel spotted with us here on

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the Matt Thomas Show with Ross Skip where is the

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battle because it right, likes out their twenty six man roster.

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Speaker 3: Uh, and it feels pretty much set. You may have

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some things in your mind, but where is the competition

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for the next month?

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Speaker 4: Which I was saying, well, you know, I think there's

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opportunities on some bench rolls. I think there is there

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is at least one or two spots there that I

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view as competition. And I mentioned some of those outfielders

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left down the hitters there there's competition there.

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Speaker 5: But also middle relief. I think that's.

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Speaker 4: Where we are going to spend a lot of our

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time where we got some of these young pitchers who

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were there, who we like, who can be that bridge

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to a Braille? And and and Hater And on the

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ninth who can throw that sixth in? And who can

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throw that seventh in? And who's going to be the

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guy who's going to step up and and hand the

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ball to a clean eighth inning to a braille. That's

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that's where the big questions are.

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Speaker 1: We teach you a little bit last year about all

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the Abrallio appearances. Oh goodness, lesser braill you less or

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less every game was closed last year you had to

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or less, uh, hater going to the second inning, dream world,

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you want both of you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna start with it with the first one.

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Speaker 4: It's less getting a brow up in the seven to

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finish the seventh, less of that, you know, less of

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he having to go in the seven to finish the

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eighth the seventh and then going back in the eighth,

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and then I potentially have to get up hater to

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pick him up, so you could, you know, I need

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less of that, And that's for me where right now

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we are really spending until the time trying to figure that.

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The key to that is that also that also helps

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that that also helps. But you still gotta, you know,

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prepare yourself for you well know, you know what happened

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last year. You know, we all left spring training feeling

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really good and sexy about our club, and then all

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of a sudden, you gotta I learned that really quickly.

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You gotta you gotta have a plan, best laid plans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Skip, thank you very much for the

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timer's always We'll see you tomorrow and then our weekly

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business looking forward to you. You were great last year

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in good times and bad, and let's get away from

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this own whatever it was it owned four.

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Speaker 5: Start Yeah, I forgot that.

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Speaker 1: That's Joe's spotted with This Matt Thomas Show with Ross

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continues at a moment here from West Palm Beach on

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