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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Zeema,

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hula hoops and pac Man video games. Don't you see?

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People today have attention spans that can only be measured

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in Namo seconds, legends, con guy. They just do great

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back a legend and a lot of work from a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of Hello, Las Vegas, Hello world. Hello my loyal minions,

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especially my loyal minions.

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Speaker 2: It is good to see you. It is always good

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to be seeing. I'm Azzie Presley. This is another f

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in podcast, another video version. It's been a while. I

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haven't had a guest on in a while, and like

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I said, you don't need to see me sit here

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and talk. Well, maybe you do is maybe I should

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start recording the video for every show except for the

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you know, four to six shows. I do a week

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on the Patreon, which you can sign up for for

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a very low price of five dollars a month patreon

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dot com slash Realizzi Presley. I highly suggest you do it,

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and I do apologize about the lack of video shows

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a lack of guest Yes, I am extremely busy. I

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work a lot and if I'm not working, I'm not

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making money. So but it's very easy for you to

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help out. And I'm not just saying, hey, give me money,

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which you can. Realzy Presley thenmo kidding cash app Dollarsundaysey

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Presley not kidding, kidding, I'm just kidding. But sign up

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for the Patreon. It's five dollars a month. That's less

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than a cup of coffee. A lot of you humanoids

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out there spend five dollars a day on coffee. It's

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just one coffee, one coffee. Join the fun, Join the Miniondom. Yes,

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join the Miniondom. Lots of cool stuff. You heard that.

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Before we get into that, make sure you hit up

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all of the socials. Give me a follow, real Izzy

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Presley all the way across the board, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

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of course, the show page is another reform podcast on Facebook.

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Go ahead like that and the Patreon get on the

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Patreon and uh what else? Oh yeah, the cameo, also

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the cameo I'm gonna crack one for the working man.

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This is my very last Michelob Golden Light. As you

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all know, especially you patreon folks, that I was in

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Minnesota over the weekend of Mother's Day and Uh played

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a gig at the Red Carpet, hosted the Press Bar

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Reunion show at the Red Carpet. It's a good time,

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great to see everybody. Fun travels and as you all know,

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I nearly died on the way home, but brought myself

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a case of michelob Golden Light and one bottle. One bottle,

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So I'm going to open this. I'm going to enjoy

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this like a man should enjoy his favorite beer. Oh God, damn,

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that's delicious. You heard the ten bells at the top

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of the show. Of course, we lost George went just

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last week. If you go to the Patreon, there's a

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whole show dedicated to George Went. Now, I was playing

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some tunes too, you know, you gotta play some tunes,

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and did a really fun show. And that's one of

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the fun things about the Patreon is because it's not public,

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I bust some music out here and then and there.

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Why not until they tell me I can't, I'm gonna

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do it. We have dating tips with porn stars coming

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up in just a little bit with Mistress Mistress U

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hold on. Mistress Ala Ala, the goddess Goddess Aila. She

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has a bunch of different names. But she's hot, so

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listen to her boys. But yeah, I did a big,

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big remembrance of George Went and I told the whole

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story about how I met him and that that was

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a fun night. I didn't get to hang with them.

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It was just one of those we were I was

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working for a band and we were at october Fest

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in Wisconsin. Trying to think of the name of the town.

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It's a big party town. Well I know it's Wisconsin.

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That doesn't nail it down. But yeah, I just spent

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a couple of minutes with him, said Hi, I took

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a picture. Should have bought his book. I did not

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buy his book because I am also a Cretinus humanoid.

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remembered a little bit of cheers and played every entrance

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to the bar on cheers to close the show. Get

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to get in there, check it out, and the whole story.

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See you get fun shit like you know, tales from

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the sea cruise stories, because as you all know, I'm

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a host on the Monsters of Rock Cruise cruise at

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the Edge on the Blue Cruise, which used to be

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Deaf Leopard Cruise. I host karaoke, but I'm also one

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of the hosts as well, get to introduce bands, get

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So lots of fun stories on there. And that's only

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for the Patreon folks. Get on there. It's only five bucks.

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I'm gonna shut up about the Patreon. I just want

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you all to go there. And we remembered Sabu at

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the top of the show with the ten bell salute.

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that's a rassle end thing. And I did not know Sabo.

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immediately did this, which is what Sabo did. And definitely

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the indie circuit and e c W and yeah, he

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super nice to me. It was another quick little hey,

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the last public episode we talked about VAMPED closing, very

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very sad about that. Had a couple of nights at VAMPED.

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I I mean, shit, shit's tight. I shouldn't be going out,

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very last time at VAMPED. You have to stop down.

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So when it saw Todd Kerns, who was a former

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guest on this show and also went to see LVDC

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featuring an act family member Keith Robert, wore who's going

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to be on this show very very soon. He h

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he has deaf, not def leopard, but twisted sister ties.

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He's also a fellow kiss tard of course and h

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New YORKA. He's got stories and we are going to

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dive into those stories. That's gonna blow some of your

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fucking minds. He's the man, Keith Robert where he's vague,

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he's basically Vegas as that's basically what he is. So yeah,

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that's uh, that's what's been going on this weekend coming

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up this Sunday and Friday, Saturday and Sunday, of next

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week May thirty first, the first of June, the second

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of June, I'm hosting the Las Vegas Guitar Trade Show.

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So if you are coming to town or are you

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in town, you are in town, come on down, go

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to Las Vegas Guitar Trade Show dot com. Get your

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tickets ahead of time, and of course I believe it's cheaper.

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And if you want to get the VIP, that's smart

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because you can go all three days. Come goes you please.

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They can come to the shows. Friday night we have

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two great bands, the Bones and one other band. And

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then Saturday, I'm hosting say I'm hosting this whole thing.

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I'm gonna be walking around with the microphone doing announcements.

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YadA YadA, YadA, yadya. I'm the face of it. What

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a pretty face it is. And then Saturday is the

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Rock Gods Hall of Fame that I'm hosting a word

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show style. It's going to be a blast shot. Scott

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I should have done that ahead of time, but you

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I'm as prepped as they come not. So that's what's

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been going on, folks. We have actually do have a

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guest this evening and he's going to be joining very

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very shortly. His name, he's been on the show before.

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If you guys saw the Blues Brothers or listen to

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the Blues Brothers episode, Tim Mangi, owner's at Mangioni. I

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guess we're gonna find out the hard way. He's gonna

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be coming on. Tim is a fellow Kiss TRD and

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he's also a OJ trial historian, and we are going

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to dive into that OJ trial and what he knows

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and his fascination with it, and then of course dive

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into our kiss hardness because I really as I was

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on the shitter before U before I hit record on

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this some bitch speaking of some bitch they hid in

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the sub bitch he's back there, goddamn some bitch and

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uh oh shit. Also, I'll put the video up in

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the in the show before we go to before we

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go to dating Tips with porn Stars, my good friend

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Joey Gudieri's fucked around with AI and he brought her

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to life. He brought grocery store Gal to life, so

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we can actually see what she looks like. And now

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maybe we can find out who the fuck she is

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because she needs to know me. I need to know her.

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We need to be in each other's life. She would

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dig me, just like Abbie Gibson would dig me. I mean,

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who wouldn't dig me? Come on? Anyways, enough of this

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mutual Hello, how you ben? Good bullshit? Make sure you

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guys comment to share the show. Tell your friends, sign

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up for the Patreon it's only five dollars about patreon

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dot com slash real Lizzy Brisley. Anyways, here's dating tips

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with porn stars. Right after we reveal what grocery store

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Gal looks like. And then right after that, Tim Mangione MANGIONI,

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we're gonna find out talking oj and kiss It is

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another efan podcast.

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Speaker 4: And now it's time for dating tips from porn stars.

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Speaker 5: All right, Here we go dating tips to porn stars. There,

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what is your name?

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Speaker 2: All right? So here we go.

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Speaker 5: We know confidences, cakes, we're taking that off the table. Humor,

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looks or money.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's our.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I want to save money, but then that's going

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Speaker 6: So I want to say, humor, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Is it important for the guy to make the first move?

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Speaker 3: I'm not always, I'm always I'm kind of into like

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making the first move and having them be a little intimidated.

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Speaker 2: And then the consensus so far, I like this, I

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like this. Can you smell desperation? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: What does desperation smell like? You like needy?

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Speaker 7: And like oh like, oh, I'm so turned off right now,

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 2: Textra call? What text he call? I'll please don't call

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them all everywhere unless I say so. That seems to

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Speaker 5: And how long do you wait to tell a guy

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Speaker 1: I attract very open minded people, so pretty much they

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always know I wouldn't be around somebody who wasn't friendly

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to this kind of lifestyle, right right, But.

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Speaker 5: If you bet they say you met this random dude

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at a bar, you're totally into. I'm proud of what

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Speaker 2: I'll this, I love it. And people want to find you?

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Where can they find you?

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Speaker 6: On Instagram? Ala the Mistress and on loyal Path?

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Speaker 7: I am a la ja come.

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Speaker 4: Here examinated that was dating tips from porn Stars. Now

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back to another f and podcast with Izzy Presley.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are back. That was Dating Tips with

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porn Stars with goddess Ala Jane. You can find her

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on the Twitter and all that kind of stuff the Instagram.

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She said it in the video. You guys know that,

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ladies and gentlemen, my good friend, hold on, is it

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mangion or MANGIONI. I don't know actually, you know, Uh,

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the reason I asked is because whatever Luigi says, you

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know what, because you know, I'm fucking uh shout out loudcast.

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They say your name, they say Mangioni, and I look

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at I just think it's Mangione.

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Speaker 6: So I've been called both. I've been and I've been

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called worse.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, fucking a there you go.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear what they said about me this week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh he yeah. Right. Well,

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you know, I mean, we know you're coming right now

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from either your tent outside of the Starbucks that Paul

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all of that. And of course you are a OJ

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trial expert, and we're gonna dive into that. But we

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are both fellow kiss trds, and I say that proudly.

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Speaker 6: And Kiss nerds. There's kiss tards and nerds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a tard, I'll admit it. I mean, I'm

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a tird without the money. There you go. But today's

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a very special day in my kisstory. Today May thirtieth,

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nineteen ninety, thirty five years ago. Tonight I was watching

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Kiss for the very first time, met Center, Hot in

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the Shade tour and uh Slaughter Faster Pussy Cabra opening.

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So this is a very special day for me. And

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you said, no, that was your first tour, first Kiss

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tour as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, June thirtieth, nineteen ninety Meadlands. But I didn't get

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Fast and Buzzy. I got fucking Little Caesar.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, damn it, that's too bad.

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Speaker 7: And then you remember when they came back and closed

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the whole tour at the Garden November ninth, Eric Carr's

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last show, Frank Chris Jericho's birthday, and oh Winger came

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on the bill.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to see Winger until fuck early two thousands,

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thank you. Oh no, I take that back. I saw

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him and I saw Minneapolis on the It was them

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and Mister Big and Mister BIG's first tour pretty fucking

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wild stuff. What do you remember about that show?

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Speaker 7: Well, I remember, you know, from day one. I'm like,

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I gotta go, I gotta go. I had an older

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brother who got me into them, five years older, and

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he got out of him with the no makeup. I

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actually remember giving him look it up. He threw it

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at me and goes not wearing makeup. And then I

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was actually growing up a diehard Leopard fan. And then

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when Rick Allen lost his arm that two years, Kiss

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got me and then I really sunk in on Crazy

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Night's Tour, which is my favorite non makeup album, you know,

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because it's the Kiss s bon Jovie album. And then

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my brother got back into him because one of his buddies.

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And in December they played the Meadowlands at on the

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Crazy Night's tour. My mother wouldn't let me go, and

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then my brother goes, next time they come, I'll take you.

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And then they did the Ritz in the City before

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the Monster the Rock where they brought back everything. I'm

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gonna go and he's like, you gotta be sixteen to

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get in, and I couldn't go. Oh. And then the

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following year Paul did the solo tour.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm coming. He's like, gotta be sixteen to

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get in, and.

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Speaker 7: Then they announced, then they announced it was only sixteen,

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and then Hot in the Shade came around.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm going, I'm going.

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Speaker 7: Then got the permission and great story too. It was

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Memorial Day weekend, which is actually now and in Jersey

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that's like God because of you know, Jersey Shore and everything.

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And my brother is the complete opposite of me, like,

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you know, no party, no nothing, you know, YadA.

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Speaker 6: YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 7: So he was down the shore and the tickets went

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on sale and he's calling from a payphone.

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Speaker 6: So he calls me and he's like, you're going to

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see Kiss.

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Speaker 7: And back in the day when you got tickets off

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the phone from Ticketmaster, they didn't tell you where.

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Speaker 6: They were, and I go, where are they?

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Speaker 7: It was poor and Rainy's putting quarters in the phone

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getting a business single.

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Speaker 6: I go where we sit and he goes, fuck you

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when he hung up. And then so by the time

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they came, you know, it was great.

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Speaker 7: No Internet, but being a Kiss fan still found out

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herd day opened, but I stole Your Love, which my

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second favorite song.

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Speaker 6: My brother, who hates kiss now is still that's his

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favorite song.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: Everything started circulating and I got the Detroit boot like

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pro shot, so like that was my new animalized live

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uncensored Wow. And then they announced they were doing Middletown,

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New York June seventeenth, and my brother wouldn't take me.

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Speaker 6: Then he went to Allentown, then he went to Philly.

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Speaker 7: He went so them five times, and they finally came

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to the Meadowlands and we were the first ones online

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at the merch stand.

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Speaker 6: I saved all my money all summer. I go up there.

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I want this one, with this one with this guy,

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goes bro slow down. You know. So they came out,

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and also this is a.

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Speaker 7: Fun fact, there were rumors Frixter was roaming around the building,

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you know. So they came out of the Sphinx and

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I was shaken. My brother's one friend goes, is your

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brother right? Is he having a sea shirt?

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Speaker 6: Goes no, he does that everything in the living room.

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Speaker 2: You know, did you cry?

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Speaker 6: I shake it.

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Speaker 7: I knew, I knew the setlist and everything, but like

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and I was upper deck, butok, front row you know,

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like but like it was like I was in the

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building with them, it mattered, and you know they brought

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all the old ship back. Their look was so cool,

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you know, Paul with the Nikes on and fun fact too,

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you know as Paul was using less Paul that tour.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because he didn't have an endorsement, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Oh that's why, that's why. Yeah, yeah, I remember

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when they you know, they came out down. I see,

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now I didn't see any set lists. I wasn't you know,

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I yeah, pre internet, but I wouldn't have known how

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to find out a fucking set list, you know, Like

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I found.

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Speaker 7: Out my brother and I got that Detroit video because

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there was this place on Seaside Heights the Jersey shore

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Boardwalk called Rainbow Rocketorium.

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Speaker 6: This guy had every bootleg possible like this that Jeane

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used to call him and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 7: So like every time my brother went down the shore,

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bring me home a bootleg this that and first time

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was Houston seventy seven, Largo seventy nine, yep. And then

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I just had exposed and animalized liven censored and then

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hot hot in the shade. The Detroit one came and

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which still sounds weird that base on it, but still

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it was the come out of that sphinx.

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Speaker 6: I'm shaking the only thing.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, my first fucking tour, they don't fucking do

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the intro You want the best, you got the best?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: I noticed that. I didn't. I didn't even now that

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you say that. I was because I was watching Detroit

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nineteen ninety that you're talking about, like before we came on,

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and of course right before it was during locking up

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Paul's fucking stage rap. Jesus Christ, you always have a

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place to sit.

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Speaker 6: Yeh, No, mister Stanley, my friends call me Paul.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't hear it. I didn't hear you wanted

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the best, you got the best. And I'm like, oh,

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maybe it just was muted out of the video for

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some fucking reason. And I don't even remember. I didn't

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remember that that they didn't say that. So now that

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you say that, it makes sense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't actually hear the intro till Detroit ninety

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six opening night with the makeup because then revenge.

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Speaker 2: They didn't and he did not revenge either.

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Speaker 6: No, they just opened up with creatures with the statue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's right, because it's they don't. They don't

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say it on a lot, but they say it on

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a Live three, don't.

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Speaker 6: They absolutely not Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe I'm not a kiss start.

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Speaker 6: And and fucking hot Nochede.

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Speaker 7: That should have been kiss Alive three or actually animized

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live on Censor it should have been.

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Speaker 6: But you know hot the sade was perfect, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, like you said, it was like they brought

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back all the old stuff.

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Speaker 7: And say what you want about the album. You know,

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there's three songs too many of the production, but like

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there's some great stuff on.

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Speaker 2: There, No, there is, there is, but there's some not

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so great stuff too, you know.

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Speaker 7: Read my Body a ka or some Sugar on Me,

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had lack dreams and Boomerang terrible cut them out, you know,

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you know set give a Street taken away?

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Speaker 6: Who wrote that with Gen?

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Speaker 2: Uh fuck? I don't know Tom. Oh shit, oh shit,

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oh ship. When did you get into When did you

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get into kiss?

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Speaker 6: You said, you know, well I liked him, you know

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with you know, lick it Up. Heaven's on Fire. Remember

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back in the day the cassettes, you wouldn't listen to it.

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You just listened to hit some fast sword.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then and then Crazy Nights came out, and

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that's when, you know, fucking hysteria just came out. But

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I'm like, fuck these guys, and you know, Paul got

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me and again I'm a diehard Jovie fan. And some

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keyboards and you know.

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Speaker 2: See, I still think Asylum is the best non makeup record. Actually,

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Asylum is in my top five.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people say that, and it's been making

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the ways like you you.

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Speaker 2: Know why, I've been saying that, and I convinced Trunk

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and now Trunk is convinced and now everybody's falling in.

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Now we just have to make that happen with Peter.

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Speaker 7: So there's something like something the sound or something is off,

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but you know it's got you know, who wants to

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be lonely as a top ten kiss song? You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well look, my thing with the Asylum is it's

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top to bottom. There's old clunkers, like you know, I mean,

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look it up. It's got some great songs, but it's

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got a couple of clunkers. Animalized has a couple of clunkers,

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a lot of clunkers. I don't think so, I don't

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think that I think there's only two that aren't great.

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Like the last two songs are like nah, but you

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know I love Burn bitch Burn. Everybody rips on burn

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bitch Burn. It's like, I think it's fucking awesome. No

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turn it the other way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I love all that no makeup.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, oh it's fucking great. It's fucking great. Like

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I remember, I went to get a side or get

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get crazy. It's better on the side ease, and you

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don't have the it's.

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Speaker 6: A full.

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Speaker 2: Landscape, right and now you're gone gone yep, really yeah,

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I mean you look better.

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Speaker 6: I see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see you. I just it's just says

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Tim with the radio. There we go, there you are

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all right, there it goes. Yeah, it's better like that

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because then you don't have the you don't have the

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Walmart you know, Black Friday horizontal view. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: But another fun fact about hot and the shade too.

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You know, and my brother he like faded out, then

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got me back into him, and then uh faded out

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with revenge. Plus he went to college, so he's too

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cool for that. And then you know, now he just

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can't stand him because of me just beating the hell

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out of him into him.

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Speaker 6: So so, but.

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Speaker 7: He he went to Paul Solo tour and it was

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at this place called.

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Speaker 6: The Ritz, which there was two rits.

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Speaker 7: The first one was Webster Hall, and then the second

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one was on fifty fourth Street, and that.

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Speaker 2: Was so that the second one, that's the GNR one.

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Speaker 6: What year was that, No, that's that's the first one.

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That's Webster Hall. And then and then the second one

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was on fifty fourth Street, which was the old Studio four.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: And so when they did Paul.

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Speaker 7: Solo tour, you know, my they wouldn't go on till

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like two in the morning in the city back in

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the day, just you know, for the booze factor this that.

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Speaker 6: So my brother and his friends they'd wait online. Three

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people would just wait.

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Speaker 7: Online and then they'd walk around, you know, drinking forties

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whatever because New York didn't care back then. So my

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brother comes home at like five in the morning. I

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was like, I can't wait to get my shirt. And

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he's I'm like, how was it?

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Speaker 6: How was it? He's like, two things.

469
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,799
Speaker 7: The opening band was fucking awesome, and Paul played a

470
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:39,440
new song called Playing with.

471
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 6: Fire, and the opening band was warrant and playing with

472
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,440
Fire aka Hide Your Heart.

473
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:47,599
Speaker 7: Wow.

474
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: H wait he called it playing with fire.

475
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:56,519
Speaker 6: No, because that's what my brother, you know, because never heard,

476
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,039
because you know, godchat.

477
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: So that's what my brother the fucking food word or

478
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,839
something because yeah.

479
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 7: So and to this day, my brother like, you know,

480
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
got two soft spots that I stole your love and

481
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:11,440
you know the higher Heart.

482
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,599
Speaker 6: He's like, of course are really two cool songs.

483
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,839
Speaker 2: But but yeah, so you did you see the solo

484
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,640
tour in the two thousands.

485
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 6: Paul lit to win?

486
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

487
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, five times Jesus Christ.

488
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now do you count those as kiss? Now? No?

489
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 7: No, okay, but I've seen kiss one hundred and thirty

490
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119
five times after the two Garden.

491
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 6: Shows Christ, Yeah, and from.

492
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,799
Speaker 7: Sixty two to the end, I never paid because of

493
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:47,039
the nice Paul Stanley.

494
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,599
Speaker 6: Actually I did pay for the last two Garden shows.

495
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:50,559
I did pay for them.

496
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: Right, well, see stalking him as it kind of helps.

497
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,039
Speaker 6: Now you know, I've done a lot for him, believe

498
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,000
it or not. I think he knows it. But your balls,

499
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:01,680
you know, he's you know, say what you want about

500
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,640
the guy. You know, he always was, you know, nice

501
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,039
to me, took care of me. It was crazy.

502
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: That's cool. Man, that's cool. That's great. So get let's

503
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,319
get into the OJ stuff a little bit because we

504
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:16,759
can sit and talk to fucking kiss all night. All right, yeah,

505
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,240
put it back sideways, all right?

506
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,519
Speaker 7: Hold on one second, yep, I just got to send

507
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:22,920
somebody in this picture.

508
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: All right, no problem. While he is doing that, go

509
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:37,759
online to Las Vegas Guitar Trade Show dot com. Get

510
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,960
your tickets now before before the show. I think they

511
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,519
are a discount. And if you get the VIP tickets,

512
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:46,839
you get to go to all the shows along with

513
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,759
all three days at the trade show. So there you go.

514
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,960
Oh and also, speaking you've kissed him, Bruce Killick will

515
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,559
have a booth there and he will be there. I

516
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,119
will be annoying him. Last at the last one one

517
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,200
of the days, Eric Singer was hanging out at his

518
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240
booth and I'm like, hey, Bruce, how much is the

519
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,200
Eric Singer? He's like nothing, Just take him. Smart guy,

520
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:14,720
smart guy, smart guy. So Tim runs a uh an

521
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,799
Instagram page. Oh, it's it's all about the OJ trial.

522
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: What is the other stuff too? Oh?

523
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, but uh what's the name of the

524
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,640
Instagram page? So I don't fuck it up? O. J.

525
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 7: Simpson murder trial page, but with underscores after each word.

526
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,759
But if you just type OJ, it's the first one

527
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,359
to come up because it's the most popular OJ page.

528
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: How many followers do you have?

529
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:38,319
Speaker 6: At like thirty five hundred?

530
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Now it's not bad, Yeah, not bad.

531
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 7: My goal is one hundred because all my friends are like,

532
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:45,880
we can take the Kiss.

533
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,279
Speaker 6: The bon Jovi, the Ghost, Scott Wiland, all this blah

534
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,119
blah blah. We can't take this OJ shit no more.

535
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 7: So just one day, like I started a page, I'm

536
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:55,640
calling on my friends, follow foul follow it and then

537
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,519
you know, randomly some stuff happened, and then you know,

538
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,319
it exploded once. You know, I went on Chris's show

539
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,319
because he advertised it, and then.

540
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,119
Speaker 6: Just little by little by little, then he died.

541
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: You know, So you know, how did you get infatuated

542
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:11,119
with this OJ trial?

543
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:12,079
Speaker 6: Well?

544
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 7: He was always Him and Eric Dickerson were always my

545
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:18,440
two favorite players, and then also I loved I don't

546
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,039
know if you ever saw it on There was a

547
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,519
show called First and ten. Yeah yeah, so he was

548
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,359
on there. Yeah No, who else was on there too?

549
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:28,240
Shannon Tweed?

550
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, Shannon Tweed and the the uh oh god,

551
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,960
the gal that owned the team. It wasn't Christy Ally,

552
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:39,119
it was Delta Burke. Delta Burke, Yes, yes, yes, a

553
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,079
lot dark haired broad that got big.

554
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very big. So I love that show and YadA, YadA, YadA.

555
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: And was on that too? Who that Olger? Who's the Nerds?

556
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:53,559
Speaker 6: Which ones?

557
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 7: He? Oh?

558
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:56,519
Speaker 2: The fucking football player ogre.

559
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 6: I'm not a big nerds guy to you. Oh my god, yeah,

560
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,279
even though I'm a big movie buff. Yeah.

561
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,279
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, what happened to you?

562
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: Where do we begin? So? Yeah, I loved it.

563
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,599
Speaker 7: And then so June So the night of the murders

564
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:18,079
June twelfth, it was my last week of school senior year,

565
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,960
and I'll never forget my mother got rest her soul.

566
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,640
She picked me up from work at McDonald's and she's like,

567
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,160
did you hear about O. J. Simpson's wife getting killed?

568
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,039
I'm like no, and she laughs, She goes.

569
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 6: They think he did it because he was.

570
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 7: You know, there's no internet, you know, he was like

571
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,480
you know, he was like Taylor Swift or Derek Cheeter.

572
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:39,200
He could do no wrong right, and you know, YadA, YadA, yadda.

573
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,759
And then my last day of school senior year was

574
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,279
June seventeenth, the Bronco Chase, which is actually one of

575
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,480
my best friends from back home. My buddy Ben's birthday

576
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880
and me and my buddies. We were at my friend

577
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Lauren's house swimming and my buddy Ritchie from back home.

578
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,880
He's diehard Knicks fan, and the Knicks we're in the

579
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,920
finals and.

580
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,359
Speaker 6: I was in the pool. He goes get in here,

581
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960
Ojay's got a gun with him, Like why so?

582
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 7: And then just YadA YadA, Yah just became like infatuated

583
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,359
with it, you know, but like he I was always

584
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:07,720
a fan of him and this and that.

585
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,119
Speaker 2: So No, I had heard, No, there's been rumors that

586
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,519
he didn't really have a gun.

587
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,759
Speaker 6: No he did.

588
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 7: He had a gun, yeah, you know, but he wasn't.

589
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,079
He wasn't going to kill himself do that. He loved

590
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,200
himself too much. He did that for attention. You know,

591
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:26,640
why do you think the prosecution didn't use that because

592
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,599
it would have you know, you know, it would have

593
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,480
backfired on him.

594
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,359
Speaker 2: How would have a backfired though?

595
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: Just because they could have played the sympathy card.

596
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,079
Speaker 7: And you know this that they tried to actually prosecute

597
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,799
al cow Wings for aiding in a bedding, you know,

598
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,640
that fell through, you know. Plus so Jay's lawyers were assassin,

599
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:47,079
you know, and nobody likes nobody liked Marcia Clark. She

600
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,319
was arrogant, she tried standing up to him, right, you know,

601
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,680
like there's so much shit she did wrong, you.

602
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,119
Speaker 2: Know, right right? Did you watch the trials.

603
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,839
Speaker 6: As much as I could?

604
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you I mean, what do you remember

605
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,839
about watching those trials?

606
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 7: I just remember like seeing it and like, oh my god,

607
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880
there he is in the courtroom. And at the time,

608
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,160
I used to work for Costco, so the whole entertainment

609
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,559
section every day was just that. And I was actually

610
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,759
working at Costco when verdict came and it just stopped.

611
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:17,799
Speaker 6: You can hear a pin drop like in a Costco.

612
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,279
Speaker 2: You know. What was the reaction in the you said

613
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:21,920
it was dead time?

614
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 7: Was it?

615
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: Where people.

616
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:24,839
Speaker 6: Happy?

617
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:25,599
Speaker 2: No?

618
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:26,759
Speaker 6: Except me?

619
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: Why were you happy? Because you thought he didn't do it?

620
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:33,759
Speaker 7: I thought he didn't do it, and I was a fan,

621
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,960
you know, uh, you know, so just you know, I'm like,

622
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:38,839
you didn't fucking do it.

623
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:40,839
Speaker 6: There's no way, you know. And then for a little

624
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:41,720
while I thought he did.

625
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 7: And then then I'll give you my like kind of

626
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,119
continuation of Chris's show from What's Happened?

627
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,079
Speaker 6: You're getting exclusive here, you know, I can't wait.

628
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: I can't wait. And it's funny you brought up Eric

629
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Dickinson and one thing I remember about living in it

630
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:53,200
and he was.

631
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: Good friends at OJ too.

632
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:58,519
Speaker 2: Actually well of course he was. I can't remember the dealership,

633
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:01,559
but I always heard this Mershall on the radio. It

634
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:06,240
was Eric Dickerson, come down, buy a truck and tell

635
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,800
him ED sent you, And all I can think of

636
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:18,199
is rex hel dysfunction. How big is that truck? I'm

637
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:19,400
actually working on that bit.

638
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,639
Speaker 6: It might work, so it might.

639
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, so when did you start really diving into this?

640
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,119
Speaker 7: Just little by little by little, and then and then

641
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,880
the Vegas thing happened. Yeah, you know, it just you know,

642
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,440
would always come up, but like you know, just and

643
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,199
then just fell hardcore and then you know, like then

644
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,679
I would talk about it a lot. And then in

645
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,559
two thousand then he got arrested, and then two thousand

646
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:49,880
and fourteen fifteen, the FX series came out, the ESPN

647
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,880
did so like every ever my phone went stop bringing

648
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,280
what's this?

649
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,039
Speaker 6: What's it? Why is this? So? Who's this? Isn't that

650
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,679
you know?

651
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,079
Speaker 7: So?

652
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, So that's that was the one with

653
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,400
like David Swim and all that stuff, right.

654
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,519
Speaker 6: Yes, the FX will.

655
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what did you think was right in there?

656
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,079
And what did you think was wrong?

657
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 7: A lot of it was, you know, was right, you know,

658
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:12,119
like it was good. You know, I'd say, like seventy

659
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,719
percent true. You know, they did the best right now,

660
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,920
the characters. The characters were you know, they all looked

661
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,320
like them, and you know, I loved, you know, because

662
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,519
I'm a big eighties ninety buff, like when they show

663
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,199
like a Current Affair or like, yeah, you know the

664
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,280
old shows that we you know, and old commercials.

665
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: We used to hate commercials.

666
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 7: The other night, I'm on YouTube watching Burger King and

667
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,079
McDonald's commercials in the eighties. I'm like, i'd killed a one,

668
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,800
you know, but like, yeah, I thought that was great.

669
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000
You know, I thought the casting was great. I just

670
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,159
think they could have got somebody. I love Cuba getting Junior,

671
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,519
but I think they could have got somebody better.

672
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:51,159
Speaker 2: So but so what what you said seventy.

673
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 6: Like part of it.

674
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 7: Bill Hotchman, who was on the prosecution, he like passed

675
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,079
out in the courtroom.

676
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,559
Speaker 6: He didn't pass out in the courtroom. He passed out upstairs.

677
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 7: But it was just like some of it's like that,

678
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,320
what else I can't even think now, but like, but

679
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,920
most of it was good, you know, like like I

680
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,639
still watch.

681
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,159
Speaker 2: It to this day, you know, you know, it's like

682
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,360
me watching Scrubs over and over and over.

683
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, but you know it was it was

684
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,960
great that you know, the guy played Cochrane athlete Bailey,

685
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
and Travolta was great as Shapiro.

686
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, I forgot he was in it. I

687
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,000
just see I just remember David.

688
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 6: Swimmer, yes, which he was all right, you know.

689
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: So okay, so what do you think happened to the

690
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,039
bag the briefcase.

691
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 6: Oh with the murder weapon and stuff.

692
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh that that's part of my like continuation theory.

693
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,639
Speaker 2: Okay, did you want to wait? Do you want to wait?

694
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,159
Speaker 6: Tell that?

695
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,039
Speaker 2: Yeah?

696
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 7: First off, he didn't fly to even before I, you know,

697
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:54,920
came to this other conclusion I have for you.

698
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 6: He's not going to fly to Chicago with it. Bring

699
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:57,840
it back.

700
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 7: There was a rumor that this guy skipped June, who

701
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,639
his wife worked at the airport.

702
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,159
Speaker 6: He said he saw oj throwing shit out, you know,

703
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
like I believe that for a little while.

704
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,119
Speaker 7: But you know, because again there's no cameras this that.

705
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:14,159
But you know, like, but I never thought he there

706
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,679
was that there's that special where it's just based on

707
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,760
Kardashian taking the Louis Vuitton bag from him. Oh he had,

708
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,559
He's gonna bring it there and bring it back.

709
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:28,159
Speaker 2: Really, you know, so you think, though, Okay, it's right,

710
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,320
we have to we have to wait till later to

711
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,039
get this exclusive stuff. Exclusive exclusive Now wait a minute,

712
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:37,199
is this exclusive stuff ship that you've came up with

713
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,760
in your head?

714
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

715
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 7: Kind of like no, like kind of continues from you know,

716
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Chris's show, Like you know, like I like my theory

717
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:50,280
is the same, but like I've connected the dots.

718
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,559
Speaker 6: So to speak.

719
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,079
Speaker 7: Really, you know, like and I don't know if you

720
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,159
saw I just posted today and OJ page. It's a

721
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,320
picture of him OJ connected to mob and drugs. This

722
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,360
that I've been saying that for you years. And I said,

723
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,199
I've said from day one, the case was about drugs

724
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,079
and this and that people think OJ got mad he

725
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:07,920
went there and killed her.

726
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 6: But that's not how it happened, you know, Okay, well, no,

727
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,719
you know, he was jealous. He did it like he no,

728
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,639
you know not.

729
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So the people that haven't heard you talk about

730
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,599
this on Jericho's show, right, expand on that expand okay.

731
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 7: So my thing, My thing was, you know I always knew,

732
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,679
you know, oj you know, he was involved with drugs,

733
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:36,800
you know, huge coke had, huge coke had and you

734
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,840
know he again he before the internet. You know, they

735
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,000
thought he was a prince and never was the best husband.

736
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,519
And then so you know and Nicole, she once she

737
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:50,119
became singles, she her Fay Resident, Chris jannertor all you know,

738
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,119
blowing lines out of their mind. And I always said

739
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,480
it was about you know, you know, drugs. They ran

740
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,000
up a tab and they blamed it on oj and

741
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,400
he paid it off the first time. And my opinion

742
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,280
on Jericho's show was, you know, they called o Jane,

743
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,199
were like listen and they were looking for fate Resnick,

744
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,920
which you know she was living with Nicole at the time,

745
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,679
and the day before she checked herself in the rehab.

746
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,079
My opinion was she went to rehab to hide. And

747
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:17,199
so my opinion was they called.

748
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 6: Ojane and said give us this fucking money, and they

749
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,119
used that as an example.

750
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 7: And again I never thought like oj did it because

751
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,840
you know, like fucking you know, Ron Goldman's hands were

752
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,639
blacker than black, and o J didn't have a scratch

753
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,239
on except for that little hangdaw, you know, and then

754
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,679
you know, why is his shoes there?

755
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,639
Speaker 6: I thought OJ might have went there and checked it

756
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,320
out after the drug dealers called him. It was like

757
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,199
holy shit, you know.

758
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 7: And that's why people are so infatuated too, because there's

759
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,480
it's too easy. You know, It's like, okay, people are

760
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:47,800
obsessed with them and then this case, but it's cut

761
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,079
and dry.

762
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: They fucking killed their parents over there, you know.

763
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 7: But like people are infatuated because they got away with

764
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,679
it so long and then they're idiots, you.

765
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,079
Speaker 2: Know, right, do you think they do? You? Well, just

766
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,239
did touch on them really good? Do you I think

767
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,000
it's time for them to get out? Yeah?

768
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 6: Definitely, definitely, you know, I agree, you know, like.

769
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: Oviously after hearing everything that went on and why they did.

770
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 7: It, and some people think that's a lie. I believe it,

771
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,119
you know, Yeah, definitely.

772
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: Believe it too. Yeah, I believe it too. So like

773
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:22,480
I remember, I can't remember if it was from that series.

774
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,679
Speaker 7: And Oja and Menendez that connects to for a few reasons.

775
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,280
The house that John Trafolta lived in on the show's

776
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,800
too down from the Menendez house on and really yeah,

777
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,039
and and also one of the Menendez brothers was away

778
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,320
on a tennis tennis trip when they finally uh you know,

779
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,400
booked them and Shapiro represented one of them and talked

780
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,559
them into coming home. And during the Bronco chase where

781
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:48,679
Sha Shapiro makes that speech because I.

782
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,679
Speaker 6: Talked to Lia Menendez into coming home.

783
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jesus Christ, I didn't realize that.

784
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 7: And Oj when he was on trial, he was locked

785
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,400
up with them. Really yep, on the same row whatever

786
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,199
you want to call it.

787
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:07,199
Speaker 2: Like uh like famous people row.

788
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yell. If you saw them in thende's Netflix special,

789
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,440
you know when they first went to jail, you hear somebody,

790
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:16,199
hey man, how am I.

791
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: It's supposed to be Oja talking to him.

792
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen I don't have Netflix.

793
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 6: I'll send you my code.

794
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, you can do that. Still I thought that allegedly,

795
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:35,320
So okay, so you think now the footprints YadA, YadA, YadA.

796
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,719
So that's how you explained the blood in the Bronco Then.

797
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 7: Well yeah, and and well now again. My new theory

798
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:46,639
is actually, you know, like you know, I always said

799
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,559
Oj was innocent. This that I'm kind of you know,

800
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,679
changing my mind now, But like he did it, but

801
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,079
he wasn't by himself, and I figured out who it

802
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:57,519
is and this and that, blah blah.

803
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: All right, all right, now, there was actually kind of

804
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,360
dials into that. There was I can't remember if it

805
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,960
was on that fucking series or what it was or

806
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,960
where the I can't It's all a blur to me.

807
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,320
This is it all runs together, you know, because I'm

808
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,519
not in it like you are. Right, somebody saw Oj

809
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,800
leaving oh the murracy, Yeah, leaving the murder scenes.

810
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 7: Jill Shively, who she's actually a friend of mine now,

811
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,519
actually went out to Lesbia last week.

812
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,639
Speaker 2: All right, now, explain that to everybody and remind me

813
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,679
of how that story is supposed to go down.

814
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,039
Speaker 7: Well, in Brentwood on San Vicente, she was going to

815
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,280
she was going to get something to eat and San Vicente,

816
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:51,920
you know, it's going straight and where she was going actually,

817
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:55,199
she was going towards the Messaluna and Bundy comes up

818
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,320
here and Oj ran the light and hopped the curb. Yeah,

819
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,679
and she saw him and people thought she was full shit,

820
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,719
but she knew like five out of six of the

821
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,559
letters on the license plate. And then the prosecution didn't

822
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,880
use her because a Current Affair or one of those

823
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,679
shows paid her five K you know, to go on there,

824
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,960
and you know, so like which they still should have

825
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,400
used her, you know, like whatever, But Marcia Clark said,

826
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,599
she ruined the case this, that, and you know, like

827
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,400
they should have used her. And again they they could

828
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,360
have had Oja taking a celtice with the bodies. They

829
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,039
still weren't prosecuting them, you know, between his lawyers and

830
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,719
Rodney King. But but she saw him hot hop the

831
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,559
media and at first she thought it was Marcus Allen,

832
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,000
but then she she recognized OJ's voice because the night

833
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:39,559
before she watched and Making Gun.

834
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,199
Speaker 2: She recognized his voice. Did he like fucking yell at

835
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:45,599
her or something?

836
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said, get the hell out of way, get

837
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000
out of the way, get out of the way.

838
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,039
Speaker 2: And this is supposed to so is this supposedly right

839
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,360
after the murders or would.

840
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 6: He yeah, like literally leaving, no, leaving.

841
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,119
Speaker 2: The murders, leaving the murders. And it was the bronco, Yeah.

842
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: His bronco because they're's two Broncos.

843
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so the white one wasn't his.

844
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:04,559
Speaker 6: That was there's two white ones.

845
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 7: They're exactly the same. Because Ac was obsessed with Oj

846
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:08,440
A C.

847
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: Oja.

848
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 7: They went to college together. OJ used to throw them

849
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
bones as that A. C. Collings. If you watch First

850
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,000
and ten, he's one of the assistant coaches on there.

851
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:21,000
You know, like you know, you know, he just licked

852
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,559
OJ's ass, you know, and OJ took care of him

853
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,400
and and he went Actually, uh, OJ's first wife was

854
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,679
AC's girlfriend.

855
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:31,199
Speaker 6: OJ, you know, swooped him up from her.

856
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,079
Speaker 2: I don't I'm sure you know this, but a lot

857
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:40,280
of people might not. That Chase is the reason that

858
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Ford discontinued the Bronco right and brought you know what,

859
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:54,119
they replaced it with the Escape? Really yeah okay, yeah,

860
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:55,320
oh you didn't know that.

861
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:56,199
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

862
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 2: No, No, that they because of Oj, they got rid

863
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:01,320
of the Bronco and that's when they introduced the Escape.

864
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:07,039
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he he uh, his Bronco is it's no more.

865
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,039
Speaker 6: They destroyed it because it was evidence. But A.

866
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 7: C's is in some museum in Tennessee and it's it's

867
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,639
on market for like a million dollars.

868
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,079
Speaker 2: So okay, so that's it. And that's now wait a minute, now,

869
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,000
which one was the one in the chase? A C's

870
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,119
that was a CS? Yeah, okay, okay.

871
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 6: Because they already had OJ's in evidence at that point.

872
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: Oh ship that.

873
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 6: And a C had a white bronco because of OJ.

874
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:40,079
Speaker 2: You know, so, how do you think Cato Kalin played

875
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:40,840
into all of this?

876
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 6: That's unbelievable. You say that because he's like part of

877
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,079
my new theory too.

878
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: And like, okay, you tell me, he go for it,

879
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,159
just go for it.

880
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 6: I always thought.

881
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,519
Speaker 7: I always thought that whole thing with hitting the air conditioner,

882
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:58,360
if I hit my head on an air conditioner, she's

883
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,920
gonna be like, he's that he heard?

884
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 6: Which makes that's you're hitting your head on the air conditioner.

885
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 7: And OJ, as Cochrane said, hits hits his head on

886
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,559
the air conditioner.

887
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 6: No bumps on his head of course, So you know

888
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:14,679
that was always like, I'm like, that don't make sense.

889
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,679
Something's up with that. And Kato slipped with that, in.

890
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 7: My opinion, and that's why he said earthquake, earthquake, earthquake.

891
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,239
You know that noise on on the that Kato heard

892
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,360
was OJ saying help me, help me, help me. Because

893
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Oj climbed the fence and Kato went out there with

894
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,679
a flashlight and he saw Oj in his boxers. That's

895
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,639
why he he was so like, you know, like nervous

896
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:41,159
on the stand. And after that, Cato left for two

897
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:43,920
days because they fucking paid him off and they frontened him.

898
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:48,400
Oh so he's not as innocent and kto like it's

899
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:51,920
and OJ left and he was he fucking was with

900
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:55,079
the other guy you know, at the house and he

901
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:55,760
knows more.

902
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: So Okay, now, whish I talked to him.

903
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,639
Speaker 6: All the time. Now I probably won't after this, but

904
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:03,079
now now hold on.

905
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:06,639
Speaker 2: Now, just just so it's for the record, this is

906
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:07,360
your theory.

907
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it all matches up, you know.

908
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,199
Speaker 2: Okay, but I just want to say this is your theory.

909
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:19,239
This is not proven. No, no, yeah, you playing fucking

910
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,159
Horatio Pine here. Yeah.

911
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 6: Well, when there's my sunglasses is he? I will tell you.

912
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: In a moment, mister Wolf.

913
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 7: That's best part of that show is uh the theme

914
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480
right before it matches with a kiss dropping the curtain,

915
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,559
you know, dude.

916
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,559
Speaker 2: So the last uh, the last sound check live I

917
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,320
hosted in in Hollywood. It was the one that was

918
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,440
for benefiting all the wildfires and all that kind of stuff.

919
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,519
And they did that song and they got done, and

920
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,239
I took my sunglasses off and I walked out to

921
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,880
the singer. I'm like, don't leave, just play with me,

922
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:06,440
just just hold on, just go with me. And I go, no,

923
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:12,960
mister Wolf, that sounds like murder. And he's looking at

924
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,719
me like, huh, but come on, do this bread.

925
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 7: And he's like, I love CSI Miami, but like and

926
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,599
then I heard like he demanded all this money.

927
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, really, he's a good actor. I don't get it, but.

928
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: But I will say this about saying a Miami. Kelly

929
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,559
Dukane was a lot harder before she got all her

930
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:35,880
fucking plastic surgery.

931
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 7: I loved what's her name, the one Spanish chick who

932
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,039
did like the biology and all that something, LaRue Eva

933
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:46,719
laru Eva LaRue.

934
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: He was smoking too, all right? So what else did

935
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,880
they get wrong in the series?

936
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 7: In the series was that fucking you know, just like

937
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:02,840
that fucking oj it. But you know, no, it was good,

938
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,159
you know, like you know, like.

939
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,639
Speaker 6: It was really good. I liked it.

940
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,599
Speaker 7: And there's Travolta is great with like some some one

941
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:13,599
liners in there, and but you know and they mentioned,

942
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,039
you know, OJ actually in when he's in jail, he mentioned,

943
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,320
you know, like, oh, there's drugs out of Messaluna and

944
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,519
they blew it off this that, you know, but yeah,

945
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:23,360
it was it was great.

946
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 6: I still watch it.

947
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 7: But it was great because it was week by week

948
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,079
by week and everyone was talking about it.

949
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so okay, so you mentioned the mob.

950
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so OJ, like I said, from day one, keep big,

951
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:41,960
big coke head.

952
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 7: And then there were these guys in Miami called the

953
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,559
Cocaine Cowboys and and they're from Miami. And there's this

954
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,400
guy John Roberts, and I don't know if you ever saw.

955
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,880
It's actually on Hulu. It's called Cocaine Cowboys about coke

956
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,079
in Miami in the eighties.

957
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,119
Speaker 6: It's really cool.

958
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,199
Speaker 7: And and you know, guy John Roberts, he's there and

959
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,559
they you know, they were connected to Pablo Escobar.

960
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 6: And this and that.

961
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,199
Speaker 7: And there's you know this one podcast that like I

962
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,840
just stumbled upon. It's you know, sports players that you

963
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,840
know gone wrong basically. So the OJ episode, they're like,

964
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,320
we're gonna only talk about the main thing for ten

965
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,679
minutes is that. And there's a part where they're like

966
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:27,440
OJ was in Florida paying you know, the Dolphins or something,

967
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,119
and he went to this guy's house with Mercury Morris

968
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,880
and he's like, oh, I'm gonna bring OJ you know

969
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,159
like this that, and he said, OJA went there, just

970
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:38,599
did coke for like four days, called like twenty hookers

971
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,199
and like OJ wouldn't leave, and he goes, Ojay got

972
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,000
you know, you played in Buffalo to Mars, Like just

973
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,079
take me to the airport and he's like, what about

974
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:46,480
your car? Is like go come back next weekend. This

975
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:48,239
guy's like I don't want this guy at my house

976
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,320
no more. And they just threw OJ on a plane.

977
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,679
He ran for like two hundred yards that day. So

978
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,519
he was just and OJ, I'll tell you, oh, I

979
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:55,599
did like two lines.

980
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 6: In my day.

981
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,639
Speaker 7: And like even back in the day, I knew, you know,

982
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,159
I heard rumors about it. So he was connected to

983
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,639
like the mob and YadA, YadA YadA.

984
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,119
Speaker 6: So you know, he wasn't like a.

985
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,079
Speaker 7: Dealer, but he'd be like, oh is he you know,

986
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:09,719
I'll hook you up with this guy you know, da

987
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,599
da da, Like he was like the middleman and so

988
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:18,119
so fucking the Night of the murders and it ties

989
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:21,000
into ever you heard saw this special?

990
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,559
Speaker 6: And he wrote that book? If I did it right?

991
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,320
Did you ever see? And people think that guy Charlie

992
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,000
is an alter ego. It's real. There's a person named Charlie.

993
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: I haven't read the book. I haven't read the book, so.

994
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 6: You kind of don't have to. There's there's a special.

995
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:37,960
It's on YouTube.

996
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,639
Speaker 7: There was an interview with Judith Reagan, who like she

997
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,039
worked for HarperCollins did the Stern book and everything.

998
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,679
Speaker 6: She actually got fired for doing this book.

999
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 7: And they interviewed OJ and then they shelved it till

1000
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,440
twenty seventeen or eighteen. But like OJ, you know, came

1001
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,320
out with the book. First off because they gave him

1002
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,119
five hundred grand, you know, because he needed money. Second,

1003
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,800
he started confessing all this stuff is the main drug

1004
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,199
dealers got Joey Ippolito, which funny story, Joey Ippolito.

1005
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 6: Sold me my first hun day when I was eighteen

1006
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:07,480
years old.

1007
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 7: So this guy, you know, he actually so in ninety four,

1008
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,000
Nicole owed a.

1009
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 6: Ton of fucking money.

1010
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,639
Speaker 7: The night of the murders, Charlie showed up at OJ's

1011
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,840
house and be like, Yo, this bitch this that, and

1012
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,559
OJ's like, all right, we'll show her. And they went

1013
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:25,800
there to like just like scare this that.

1014
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,519
Speaker 6: You know, Goldman walked in Nicole. You know, she fuck

1015
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:29,920
you OJ.

1016
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,159
Speaker 7: She swung at him and boom boom boom, and so

1017
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,159
OJ got her and the Charlie guy got ron. That's

1018
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:40,639
why OJ don't have nothing on him. So, like it

1019
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,599
was connected to drugs, like I always said, you know so,

1020
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:53,079
and also, you know everyone said on that special, OJ's like, oh, well,

1021
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,519
Charlie came to see me and just said, you know,

1022
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:58,519
they're messing around with guys, fucking guys. OJ you know

1023
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,199
fibbed about that because of the drugs, you know, but

1024
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:03,639
it was because of that. And people are like, oh,

1025
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:06,159
that's his all there, ego, this, that that, it's he's

1026
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,559
kind of telling me everything. So this guy Charlie, he's

1027
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,480
in the mob. He runs a go go bar in Miami. Now, this,

1028
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,840
that and the other thing, and he he's doing some

1029
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,039
documentary and he confessed to it. Is like he literally

1030
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:22,880
confessed to it, like and they were gonna come out

1031
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,440
with a movie then they're not this that.

1032
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: And then when people come from he's like, oh I

1033
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,400
was joking.

1034
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:29,199
Speaker 7: But there's this one private investigator who I follow on

1035
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,159
YouTube and he's like, I have his confession right here.

1036
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,679
Speaker 6: This is that Da da da And now this guy

1037
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,159
Charlie's suing him.

1038
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 7: But like Charlie was with OJ in Vegas when OJ

1039
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:42,360
got arrested, Effigy.

1040
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,039
Speaker 2: Just for the record, I live in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. Okay,

1041
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,039
I live in sheboyg and Wisconsin. Just that's where I live,

1042
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,719
boy in Wisconsin.

1043
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 7: Oh so nobody comes after you, yeah, exactly. Well the

1044
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,239
main guy's all dead. Now that's why OJ started talking.

1045
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: Oh who's so the main guy is that Charlie?

1046
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 6: No, that was his Joey Ippolito guy. He was like

1047
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:11,079
a beast. So you know, he told Charlie go get

1048
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:11,840
my fucking money.

1049
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 7: And OJ just should have been like, all right, I'm

1050
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,360
going away, you know, like we'll do when I get home.

1051
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,639
But Oja's you know, ego this that blah blah blah,

1052
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,559
and you know they went there and YadA YadA yadi.

1053
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: And sol that's your new theory.

1054
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you know, and there's literal like the

1055
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,119
the you know, Cochran all them.

1056
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,559
Speaker 6: They're one investigator, doctor Henry Lee. He's like only Superman

1057
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,519
killed all those people. Couldn't just be O. J. Simpson.

1058
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,079
Speaker 7: And there's there's sketches and little imprints of you know,

1059
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,360
Charlie shoes that they just didn't want to use this

1060
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,519
that really, Yeah, there's so much stuff there, you know, where's.

1061
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,519
Speaker 2: Now where's all this stuff available? Is this all in

1062
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:54,920
like YouTube documentaries and kind of stuff. Yeah?

1063
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 8: Like and okay, even in the trial, Cochran brought it

1064
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,400
up like there was another shoe print not clear day

1065
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,519
as OJ's because what happened was once, once everything happened,

1066
00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:06,920
they stripped, you know, they just ran out of there

1067
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,159
in their socks and their underwear.

1068
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:14,199
Speaker 7: And that's why OJ was driving home. And they never

1069
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,440
found blood on the gas pedal of brakes because he

1070
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:17,840
had his socks on, not a shoes.

1071
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 6: How about that?

1072
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Did they find the shoes?

1073
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,119
Speaker 6: No? No, So that's where Cato comes in.

1074
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 7: So anyway, and they found somebody else in the prosecution,

1075
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,800
they wanted it to be OJ just because big name

1076
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,960
and they get back for Rodney King, and.

1077
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 6: Like, you know, you could have told them eighty people did.

1078
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:40,639
Speaker 7: This and this, they wanted it to be OJ. So

1079
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,039
they found other you know, blood on the steering wheel.

1080
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,000
That's they buried it and it was Charlie's you know

1081
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:47,880
they and.

1082
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: Why did so? They just wanted to depend it all on.

1083
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,119
Speaker 6: Yes, so you know, to get back for Rodney King.

1084
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 7: And you know they were in the first who's the

1085
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,559
guy you know they do the corn or the first

1086
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:02,880
guy that did the you know, the examination of the

1087
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,599
body's corner.

1088
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 6: He said, there's there's two different kind of knives here.

1089
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,280
Got fired the first day. Then they brought doctor Axmanen.

1090
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,039
Speaker 7: And because really yeah, and it was all Marsa Clark

1091
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,719
really yeah.

1092
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: See, you know this this opened so much shit up.

1093
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 7: And speaking of speaking of that special you brought up

1094
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,400
with Kardashian with that bag. If you watch that that

1095
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:31,480
day and that's on the news report, OJ gets home

1096
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,400
from uh Chicago, he looks, he looks to the left

1097
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,760
and if you if you're obsessed with me, you notice

1098
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,320
he makes this weird face because he saw the Bronco

1099
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,320
there because usually parked it inside.

1100
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 6: That's where Charlie parked it because he didn't know.

1101
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 7: So if they would have towed the bronco earlier, they

1102
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:50,119
you know, they could have gotten him.

1103
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 6: No, they would have had him saying I don't know

1104
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:54,199
where the bronco.

1105
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,679
Speaker 7: You know, he said he parked it there after, you know,

1106
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,599
like you know, his day, but like Charlie parked it there.

1107
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,960
So when when they got done with the murders around

1108
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:08,280
the block, there's a street called Bristol which is basically

1109
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,079
behind Ojas and OJ's like, I can't go there to

1110
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,559
fucking Limo's there. So that's when OJ hopped the fence

1111
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,840
and YadA, YadA, YadA, and Charlie waited for you know,

1112
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,440
the Limo to leave, he and him and Cato, you know,

1113
00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:22,639
he helped Cato help him, you know, like.

1114
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,039
Speaker 6: Get and leave.

1115
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 7: And Charlie left and he got rid of all the evidence,

1116
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,440
went back to Florida, never heard from him again.

1117
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,679
Speaker 2: So so cardish she didn't take the evidence. No, no,

1118
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,440
Charlie did.

1119
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, Charlie did. And he got rid of it.

1120
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 7: And then if you notice, when you know OJ left La,

1121
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,679
you know, first he had he had to sell rocking

1122
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,760
him and they destroyed it because you know, he owed

1123
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,079
back taxes and the Goldmans.

1124
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: Is that?

1125
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 6: Then he went to Miami. Who lives in Miami.

1126
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,199
Speaker 7: Charlie I got pictures with OJ and strippers and Charlie,

1127
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:55,679
you know, and then Charlie helped him, you know, rob

1128
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,280
the you know, Palace Station.

1129
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: So now why aren't you doing like YouTube videos about

1130
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:02,920
this stuff?

1131
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 6: I don't know at the time. This that, plus I

1132
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,440
want to give you the exclusive, you know.

1133
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:16,039
Speaker 2: I appreciate the exclusive. Theory, Yeah, the exclusive.

1134
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 7: You know, and even you know, like for like, you know,

1135
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:22,719
at one point, I'm like, I think it's like it's

1136
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,719
impossible one person to do that, and I have friends,

1137
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:26,360
but he was, He's a machine.

1138
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 6: This that.

1139
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,079
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, there's no way you know, one person,

1140
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:33,320
you know, And that's why I always start I'm like, dude,

1141
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,360
drug dealers went there.

1142
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 6: And from day one, you know, my opinions change a

1143
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,480
little bit. My theories always said, it's.

1144
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: About drugs, you know, it makes sense.

1145
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 7: And there's there's interviews, whether even before or after the

1146
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,559
murders where oh Jay, it's just lit up.

1147
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:51,599
Speaker 6: There's just one it's a few years after the murders.

1148
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:55,679
Speaker 7: He's he's on like Fox with with some guy and

1149
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,800
they're interviewing him and Nicole's sister gets on niece and

1150
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,320
they're arguing. He's like, Nicole, did want me around you

1151
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,480
because you wanted to fuck me? Just that Ojay screaming, screaming,

1152
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,519
he's coked out of his mind.

1153
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:13,239
Speaker 6: It's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, he was the ad of his mind.

1154
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:18,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never knew that. Oh yeah, that is That

1155
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:21,239
is fucking wild stuff. And there is Is there any

1156
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:22,519
other theories that you have?

1157
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,159
Speaker 9: No, you know, it was just that, you know, like,

1158
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,920
okay again you know about drugs, you know, and YadA YadA,

1159
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,039
yadda and and fucking he like so Jill Shively did

1160
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,239
see him leaving, you know, he did.

1161
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,039
Speaker 7: And she she just said to he goes, Oh, I

1162
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:40,639
couldn't see if he was wearing anything because he didn't

1163
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:43,119
have a shirt on. And then when they said we

1164
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:46,440
saw the limo drive at Alan Parks, he said, we

1165
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,599
saw oj.

1166
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:48,559
Speaker 6: Run across the lawn.

1167
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:50,239
Speaker 7: You know, he was all in black. He was naked

1168
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,679
except for the boxers, you know. And Cato said, yeah,

1169
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:56,000
I went out to get a flashlight.

1170
00:59:56,039 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 6: And then he went down the.

1171
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 7: Alleyway where with the glove and he turned around because

1172
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:03,199
OJ told him not to go there.

1173
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:07,079
Speaker 6: But he OJ was banging on his door. Okay, his

1174
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:08,920
side of the bungle.

1175
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: Now, when you said, uh, yeah, he saw him in

1176
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,480
his underwear. He was talking about OJ not.

1177
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ato, No, Kato was watching TV and OJ was

1178
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,559
banging on the you know.

1179
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,719
Speaker 6: Kato was obsessed with OJ. You know really you know, and.

1180
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,639
Speaker 7: Then, like I said, two days later, Kato just says,

1181
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:26,599
I wanted to get the hell out of that.

1182
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:28,039
Speaker 6: I want to do with this. They paid him to

1183
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:29,280
leave for a few days.

1184
01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: Right. Has Kato's story changed over the years.

1185
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: Nothing, nothing but that when he says he should have

1186
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:38,639
never I don't know why he said that, he goes

1187
01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:43,119
sound like an earthquake book. Yeah, but I've said from

1188
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:45,199
day one he always knew more and me Ti, one

1189
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:46,559
of my friends, like he did it with Oman.

1190
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:50,119
Speaker 6: No he didn't, but like you know, like and then

1191
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,440
this all came out like he like he knows everything.

1192
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:53,679
Speaker 2: You know.

1193
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,239
Speaker 6: As soon as OJ left, Charlie and him were talking.

1194
01:00:58,599 --> 01:00:59,239
Speaker 2: Is that fact?

1195
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you know my theories and you know it's

1196
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,079
in this it's in this script of this mob movie

1197
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,239
that was going to come out with Charlie.

1198
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,119
Speaker 2: You know, oh really what mob movie was?

1199
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:12,559
Speaker 7: That was that it's about like the mob in Charlie's

1200
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:15,760
life and he can you know, and that's where like

1201
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,119
he admitted it. And this one private investigator I follow

1202
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:20,760
he he's like, I have the script. I've talked to Charlie.

1203
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,440
He admitted it to me. But then you approach him, Oh,

1204
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,840
I'm kidding, you.

1205
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:30,599
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, just fucking busting balls. Yeah, for the movie exactly.

1206
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 7: And this private investigator he's gone to the gold Mins,

1207
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,199
the lapd and they don't want to hear it just

1208
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:37,480
because you.

1209
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,119
Speaker 2: Know, okay, all right, all right, do you think we're

1210
01:01:41,159 --> 01:01:43,400
ever going to hear the truth? No?

1211
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:48,199
Speaker 7: And and fucking Oj when he died. You know, he's

1212
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:51,239
got four kids to with Nicole too, from Margarita's first

1213
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:55,199
and the first two, you know, right before he died,

1214
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,800
Like they signed the NDAs in the room.

1215
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 6: So I think he finally confessed.

1216
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,039
Speaker 2: Then he admitted what happens, That's why they I didn't

1217
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:06,159
know they signed NDAs. Yeah. Do you think do you

1218
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:08,039
think Kato has an NDA signed too?

1219
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:09,079
Speaker 6: No?

1220
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:12,079
Speaker 7: I just think you know he's you know, he can't

1221
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:14,800
say nothing now because his life was you know, like

1222
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,719
he'd be as Cato says, I became famous for all reasons,

1223
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:20,679
you know, right, and now Cato can say I killed

1224
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,239
Oj Winham and nobody's gonna Nobody wants to hear it

1225
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,320
or believe it this day, you know, like it's it's.

1226
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: Did you listen? You know he had a podcast.

1227
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 6: I listened to him all time on there, you know, Yeah, yeah,

1228
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
I actually I promote it for I tag him and stuff.

1229
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:36,079
Speaker 2: We talked, okay, so he's still doing it.

1230
01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we d M back and forth, me and him.

1231
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,239
Speaker 7: I was actually trying to get him on Jericho's show,

1232
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,639
but like just didn't work out.

1233
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 6: Blah blah blah blah. But you know, and he and

1234
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,480
and he, you know, I think he was fucking baging

1235
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:54,000
Nicole too. You know, his best friend was That's how

1236
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:54,920
he met her.

1237
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, okay, so it was Yeah, So it's weird.

1238
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:03,039
For some odd reason, I always thought it was OJ's

1239
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:05,119
house or that he lived in the guesthouse.

1240
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 6: He did, he did well.

1241
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 7: First he lived he lived on three two five Gretna Green,

1242
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
which is a few blocks from Rocking Him. And that's

1243
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,639
where those nine to one one tapes are. That where

1244
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,360
OJ you fuck you No No Cato lived there and

1245
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,239
then Nicole left there, went to Bundy and she didn't

1246
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,000
have a she just had a spare room. And you know,

1247
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:28,079
OJ's like, no, no, no, you're not living there. Come

1248
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:29,880
live with me in a bungalow, so of course, and

1249
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,039
then apparently.

1250
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 6: Him and Nicole hate each other after that. She was

1251
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,239
jealous because she was pissed out and felt he turned

1252
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,519
on her.

1253
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:38,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, and let me tell you something that nine one

1254
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,079
one call Yeah again, OJ's coked that in mind. He

1255
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:43,760
kicked down the door, you know, Like but if you

1256
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,639
hear what he's saying, I kind of agree with him

1257
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:48,199
because like, what is he say if you know you

1258
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,079
hear the story how he used to stalk her a

1259
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,559
little and he saw this guy keeps his lambswitch who

1260
01:03:53,679 --> 01:03:58,679
he's a restaurant tour He owned Messaluna on San Vacente

1261
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:00,800
and Brentwood, and there was one in Aspen. That's where

1262
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,039
Nicole met him and the cold datum little and OJ,

1263
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,400
you know, saw her giving him a hummer.

1264
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 6: So OJ kicked down the door and she's like, ohj

1265
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,440
this that that He's like, oh really, He's like, you're

1266
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,760
sucking Keiths dick in the living room. My kids are upstairs.

1267
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,119
Speaker 7: He's he went about it the wrong way, but I

1268
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:19,079
think he was right. And that guy was a drug

1269
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:20,239
dealer too, that guy Keith.

1270
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: It's wild how it always comes back to drugs.

1271
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they were running out of that messaloon.

1272
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: It was crazy right now. So now the Bundy House

1273
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:31,880
is no longer there, correct.

1274
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,079
Speaker 7: No, no, no, it's there, and if you go to

1275
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:38,280
the back alley it looks exactly the same which is

1276
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:42,000
in the front. It's the same house, but the like

1277
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:43,679
it used to be like all open and had a

1278
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:47,960
white gate, but like now there's big trees bushes around it.

1279
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and wooden gates. They don't even use the entrance

1280
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,320
no more.

1281
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 7: But like but like, you know, it's there, and where

1282
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,880
the door is to the right a little which is

1283
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,599
almost on the other property, it's actually where the murders happened.

1284
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:01,679
As you can line it up with. There's this one

1285
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:04,960
picture of the cops standing out there and trees and

1286
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,119
there's a kind of a gutter hole in the road

1287
01:05:08,159 --> 01:05:09,840
and I've matched him up this that.

1288
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:12,079
Speaker 6: So but it's the same place, you know.

1289
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought for somebody.

1290
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 6: She doesn't use the they don't use the front this whoever's.

1291
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,599
Speaker 2: There right right now? I thought somebody had said that

1292
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:22,239
they they knocked it down, And.

1293
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 6: No, they knocked down rocking him OJ's house.

1294
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:30,639
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, and you know who bought it the guy.

1295
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 6: Who used to own those Jerry's delis out here.

1296
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he bought it and he knocked it down,

1297
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,039
not because the OJ this that he just said, just

1298
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,440
the renovations would have costed him too much.

1299
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 6: Because OJ had with back taxes.

1300
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,199
Speaker 7: And then the Goldman sued him in the civil trial,

1301
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:47,400
so like he owed him held him money.

1302
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: So that was that.

1303
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,559
Speaker 7: And then he fled to Miami because I guess I

1304
01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:52,880
couldn't get him down there. Plus he could live on

1305
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,920
his pension because you can't touch that, so which was

1306
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,480
like twenty five k a month. So, plus he was

1307
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,239
doing other shit, you know, the drug shit and you know,

1308
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,679
autographed shows behind the back, funneling.

1309
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,639
Speaker 2: It like you know, oh dude, this is fucking wild stuff. Yeah.

1310
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:12,599
Speaker 7: And then in in in Miami, the police raided his

1311
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:14,000
house because somebody said that.

1312
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 6: O J was dealing ecstasy there and this and that,

1313
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,880
and then all they found was he was stealing direct TV.

1314
01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh can you not afford direct TV? If he's getting

1315
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,920
twenty five grand a both in his pension.

1316
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 6: People don't want to pay for cable, you ever?

1317
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,679
Speaker 7: Hear Eddie van Hilla too, He didn't want to pay

1318
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:33,400
for cable, you ever, hear that story with him and

1319
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,119
Craig Well, Craig gas well.

1320
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Craig lived there for a little while.

1321
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,559
Speaker 6: He lived there, and Craig said that Eddie went up

1322
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,679
to him. He's like, hey, here, you got a legal

1323
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:48,199
cable box. He's like yeah, He's like, I'm rich, I

1324
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:53,599
just don't pay for cable. It's they were on Opie

1325
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,679
and Anthony. Craig calls it's hysterical.

1326
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, you know, listen you listen to

1327
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,559
his his interview on Jericho or on my show. It's dude,

1328
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:07,360
that that story is just fucking mind blowing.

1329
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,199
Speaker 7: And then you know, Eddie's assistant Matt Brock, ended up,

1330
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,119
you know, banging Craig's girlfriend and Eddie, uh, that's how

1331
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,440
he move or first he cheated on someone else and

1332
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,599
he first Eddie's like, come stay with.

1333
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 6: Me, you know, and he's like, I told you she

1334
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,599
was funk. And when he called, Eddie's like what do

1335
01:07:25,639 --> 01:07:27,159
you do? He's like taking a ship. He's like, all right,

1336
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:28,599
I give you come up. No, He's like, come moving.

1337
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:31,119
It's cool, and Craig's like, fuck you your hor I'm

1338
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:34,159
going to live with Eddie man Helen. And then he

1339
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:35,760
brought the girl over and they.

1340
01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:40,119
Speaker 7: Were rehearsing for at the four reunion with Sammy, the

1341
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:43,679
one that was a disaster where he's Samurai and he

1342
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,239
was staying like in a room behind fifteen fifty one

1343
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,280
fifty behind it, and the girl goes, wow, this guy's

1344
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,880
the biggest Van Halen Eddie's cold records.

1345
01:07:56,679 --> 01:07:57,639
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ.

1346
01:07:57,719 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hysterical. I'll send it to you.

1347
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do, please do now if people want to again,

1348
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:10,440
just to reiterate, these are all theories the yeah.

1349
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, and like you know, some of its fact, like

1350
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,159
for instance, Nicole did run up the drug that O. J.

1351
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,520
Paynton off the first time and then the second time.

1352
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,239
That's why he went there. He's like, fuck this, I'm

1353
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,319
not doing this again, you bitch, you know.

1354
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 6: But everybody thinks, oh, you know, he was mad they

1355
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:25,319
didn't go out.

1356
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,399
Speaker 7: He's gonna go kill the girl because he didn't get

1357
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:32,039
invited to fucking dinner, you know, like you know, and

1358
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,279
that day, you know, he there's a video him outside

1359
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:36,560
of the school hugging her family. They just blew it

1360
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,079
all up.

1361
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 6: Just fun fact too. OJ and Kiss goes back.

1362
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,319
Speaker 7: So his girlfriend Paula Barbieri broke up with him the

1363
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,239
morning of the murders, and know where she went. She

1364
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,199
went to Vegas that night to see none other than

1365
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:53,119
Forever co writer Michael Bolton.

1366
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's so funny. It's like, you know, I'm like

1367
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,359
in the grocery and all of a sudden, I hear oh.

1368
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 6: Am I the busted out.

1369
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,359
Speaker 2: I start crying, Yeah, you big fan by the ball.

1370
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,439
That's the song with Zachi Kelly break Up. Of course,

1371
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,920
because of that douchebag jeff Patrick Buldoon.

1372
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 6: Who also is Richard on Melrose Place.

1373
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:29,199
Speaker 2: And he was also Austin Reeves, Austin Reid on Days

1374
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:29,760
of Our Lives.

1375
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,039
Speaker 6: That's another thing. I'm a huge Melrose and nine.

1376
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: Of course you are, that's right, Yeah, you're You're like

1377
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:38,199
a pop culture nerd.

1378
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, high school nine O two one oh.

1379
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 7: Every week I go watch it with these three or

1380
01:09:43,039 --> 01:09:45,359
four hot girls, and then after we go to our

1381
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,880
peach fit the Jefferson Diner, and all my guy friends like,

1382
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,279
you're just going there and trying to get some tell

1383
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:51,840
and all the girls like no, he shushes us, you know,

1384
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:53,079
and You're.

1385
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm just I just want to hang out

1386
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,720
with the hot chicks and they.

1387
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Speaker 6: No, I know, I was more obsessed with nine two

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01:09:58,039 --> 01:09:59,000
oh than the hot chicks.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ him. People want to find the Instagram it

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is please.

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Speaker 6: Jay Simpson murdered trout page. There you go, and I'm

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star child thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: That's right, That's that's where the innerkiss TRD comes out.

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And I say that lovingly. Of course I say that lovingly. Uh,

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01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:26,319
Timmy dude, thank you man. I course I appreciate it.

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And I'm going to hit the the ultro music I've

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been using for eleven twelve years.

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Speaker 6: So real quick, some Vegas questions. So what's up with Vamped?

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,039
Speaker 2: What happened with Vamped? Yeah, dude, it's just I.

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01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:45,039
Speaker 7: Saw an interview with him. He has another business venture.

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01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:46,640
He can't say what it is, so he's selling it.

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I look, I there's some stuff going on.

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 7: You think it's gonna last say it or they're gonna

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01:10:55,319 --> 01:10:56,279
what's your opinion on that?

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 2: I hope somebody buys it.

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01:10:58,239 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 7: I was only there once when I last time, I

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,520
actually saw you for quarantine, and I'm like, this place.

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 6: Correct me if I'm wrong. That was Vince Neil's old place.

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: Right, correct, Okay, that was feel goods.

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, dude, look, there was just great.

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01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's phenomenal. But here's the thing. Rock clubs

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,800
are a money pit. Yeah, of course, you know, nobody

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:28,039
wants to see as much as we fucking hate pay

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01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:29,960
to Play and all that ship, nobody wants to see

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:36,159
that here. And you know they Vamped. Those guys fucking

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01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:39,279
took care of us very well when we played there.

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But you know, if you're not generating money, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: What I mean, Like I said, Olilie, like this place.

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01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: Is, dude, it's the best. It's it's the fucking it's

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,239
my favorite rock bar in the world, right, you know,

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01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:56,920
I mean, like the Rainbow is different because it's it's

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,279
at Yeah, it's a restaurant, it's a hang and this

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01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:02,479
is a hang too, But we're gonna watch fucking killer

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,039
bands in a killer bar with a killer sound system. Oh,

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01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:11,319
it's just it's I was there twice this weekend, even

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though I shouldn't have been, but.

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,159
Speaker 6: I get it.

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01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:19,159
Speaker 2: Well, dude, it's like Todd Kern's last show that Vamped,

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01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,079
you know, then fucking lvdc's last show at Vamped, and

1430
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,079
I've got like Keith, who plays in act, isn't it

1431
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:29,800
He's he's the angus. It's like, well, I gotta go

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,920
support my bros. Oh, it's like, du it's I fuck it.

1433
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,760
I hate it. I hate it. It sucks. It's so dumb,

1434
01:12:39,279 --> 01:12:43,640
so dumb, but yeah, it sucks. Man. It's I just

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,079
I hope somebody comes in and fucking uh saves the day.

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,600
I mean, I know it's never gonna be the same.

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01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:55,439
You know, there's just a fucking there's just a feel

1438
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,159
there and yeah, yeah, yeah it's and part of it's

1439
01:12:59,319 --> 01:13:02,359
and part of that made feel is Corey and Danny. Yeah,

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,800
you know. So it's like, dude, he's like, you're you're

1441
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,880
playing that stage and you look up and look up

1442
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,079
to Danny's little fucking bat cave up there, and he's

1443
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:15,840
just up there fucking rock. And I was like, yeah, yeah,

1444
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:22,960
kind of a transam never worked. I tried, right, it

1445
01:13:23,079 --> 01:13:25,520
never worked, but yeah, dude, it sucks. And one other

1446
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,279
vagus questions you got.

1447
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 6: That's it all right? Very well, Palace Station. When I

1448
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,920
came there for quarantine, I stayed there you know.

1449
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: Where, of course you did.

1450
01:13:34,279 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 7: And no, it's funny I introduced you and that night.

1451
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,039
My buddy Tommy, who is with me. He's from Jersey,

1452
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,239
you know, like he's like my Kiss sidekick this that,

1453
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,840
and he uh, he's I call my big little brother

1454
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,920
because he's like ten years younger than me, but he's

1455
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,880
smarter and takes care of me. And he he was

1456
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,199
my sidekick at the last two Kiss shows this that

1457
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,159
East type with PJ and Steve. So he's like, I'm

1458
01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:59,960
gonna come out for you know, the weekend. You know,

1459
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:01,840
we'll go to Whiskey and then we'll go to Vegas.

1460
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:02,920
And he's a big qult guy.

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01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:06,279
Speaker 6: So we're there and we stay at Palace Station. So

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01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:06,800
I check in.

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01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 7: I'm like, can I get room twelve oh three? And

1464
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,000
the ladies like, we don't have a twelve oh three?

1465
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:15,720
And Tommy, Tommy, what are you talking about? And during

1466
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,000
the pandemic they re they remodeled it in twelve oh

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01:14:19,039 --> 01:14:19,960
three is the room where the.

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01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:22,359
Speaker 2: Robbery was, right right, Well.

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01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 6: The lady goes, we don't have a room twelve They

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,880
the number on it. They just remodeled that wing or

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,680
something model now.

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01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 7: But I did, you know, like I did one of

1473
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,319
my you know sightings where I go to houses and

1474
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:37,199
stuff on the steps where Jay walks in.

1475
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:43,279
Speaker 2: You know, that's just fucking insane. But yeah, but look,

1476
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,800
actually it's not because you know, I do stupid shit

1477
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,680
like that, like movie locations. Oh yeah, I love it.

1478
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and all my friends from back East they give

1479
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,039
me requests, so that's pretty cool, you know.

1480
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw one. Uh there's a guy that's

1481
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,359
been on this show many a couple of time times

1482
01:15:01,039 --> 01:15:03,640
where he's got this Urban Explorer page and it's all

1483
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,079
about movie movie places. Yeah, he just posted one from

1484
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:13,920
where the famous Clyde right turn Clyde Okay Burbank on

1485
01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:17,039
Victory with the restaurant in the background.

1486
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:20,079
Speaker 7: That's still there, right, Yeah, all the stuff they use

1487
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:23,079
in the valley and Burbank man, I all the like

1488
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,119
you know, you'll you'll see like.

1489
01:15:25,039 --> 01:15:27,520
Speaker 6: An old McDonald it's all burning. It's all still there.

1490
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: That but was Look, that was one of the fun

1491
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,039
things about living in laying all that ship.

1492
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 6: Like, I still go right in North Hollywood.

1493
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,079
Speaker 7: I went there last year and that's right around the

1494
01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:43,199
block from Butcher's apartment when he goes and gets the

1495
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:47,399
watch in Pulp Fiction, right around the Yeah.

1496
01:15:47,039 --> 01:15:50,520
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. But yeah, it's just stupid it's not like

1497
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,039
the Saved by the Bell High School. Yeah, it's the

1498
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:56,800
better off dead house.

1499
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 7: Speaking of fast times in Rent would block away on

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,960
San Vicente, there's a coffee bean and that's where the

1501
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,119
All American Burger was.

1502
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 2: Really yeah, oh shit, I'll have to remember that next time.

1503
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,800
I'm just cruising around LA which yeah, back until September.

1504
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 6: Well, you let me know.

1505
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,119
Speaker 2: I will.

1506
01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:20,520
Speaker 6: We'll even do We'll do an OJ tour.

1507
01:16:22,119 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: If I have time, because I'm usually in and out,

1508
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,920
you know, right, but if I, if I, if I

1509
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,359
have time, if I if I have a day, yeah,

1510
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,920
we'll see it all depends what the finances look like.

1511
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,760
And ladies and gentlemen, you can help with that. Not

1512
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:42,199
by sending me money. Well you can really paton. Sign

1513
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:44,760
up for the patreon five dollars a month. You can

1514
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,760
contribute and look, you get shipped like this on the Patreon.

1515
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,640
You get fun stuff like that on the Patreon. So

1516
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,399
maybe we do something just for the Patreon the OJ.

1517
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,720
I don't know, but I have to start making money.

1518
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,640
We have seventeen people, which is good, which is good.

1519
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,920
It's eighty three less than one hundred, four hundred and

1520
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,560
eighty three less than my goal. There you go, you know,

1521
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,079
a goal of five hundred at five dollars a month.

1522
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:12,319
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, I had one hundred OJ followers. Now

1523
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:15,199
I'm at three thousand, so dreams can come true.

1524
01:17:15,279 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, pumping up on your fucking OJ page.

1525
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,039
Speaker 6: May oh I'm from here for sure?

1526
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:22,279
Speaker 2: There you go. Hell yeah, fuck ya. All right, I'm

1527
01:17:22,279 --> 01:17:24,319
gonna hit my ultro music that I've been using for

1528
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:25,279
twelve years, and.

1529
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 7: I will be in Vegas August ninth for Ghosts, So

1530
01:17:29,239 --> 01:17:30,880
whether you go to the show or not, we can

1531
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,319
meet up.

1532
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: So and uh, for the record, I've been using this before,

1533
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,439
a showered out loud cast. Uh uh oh yeah, but.

1534
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 6: I use the number one kiss podcast out there.

1535
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,119
Speaker 2: That's right, My good. They're actually gonna be on the

1536
01:17:44,119 --> 01:17:48,079
show coming up pretty soon. So Tim Mangione Maggioni, however

1537
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,159
the fuck you want to say, check out his OJ page.

1538
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,640
This is fun, man. I love hearing all this kind

1539
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,239
of shit. And like I said, it's your theories. But

1540
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,399
the dots connect, they connect, that's connect. We'll never know

1541
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,199
the truth less never Cato comes on this show and

1542
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:04,039
says fuck it.

1543
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 6: Or a c cowings he knows everything too.

1544
01:18:07,119 --> 01:18:10,279
Speaker 2: Of course he does. Of course he does. You know,

1545
01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:13,680
hit up all the socials Riozie, pressy, Twitter, Instagramic, Facebook,

1546
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,960
Patreon is the same and as well as the cameo,

1547
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,920
get a cameo therely twenty bucks. This I've read Patreon

1548
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,880
will give you a free one wild I know and

1549
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:27,359
follow Tamia is it star child?

1550
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 6: Thirty seven?

1551
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 2: Why the number? Thirty seven?

1552
01:18:31,239 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 6: My favorite number? When I played football back.

1553
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,119
Speaker 7: In the day when they gave out jerseys, I missed

1554
01:18:37,119 --> 01:18:37,600
it that day.

1555
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,520
Speaker 6: I came back and that was.

1556
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 7: The only jersey left out of the number number six. Yeah,

1557
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,359
but then it was a running backs number and I

1558
01:18:44,399 --> 01:18:47,119
was alignment, so then they they gave me seventy.

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01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:52,159
Speaker 2: Three, so a well, well, hey, I think twenty seven

1560
01:18:52,279 --> 01:18:56,399
is superior number. But what can I say? And if

1561
01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:59,319
you're on the Patreon, we'll see you tomorrow night. If

1562
01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:01,239
you're not, we'll see you next week. Don't forget my

1563
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:05,239
name's Izzy Presley. What I lack of talent make up

1564
01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:05,640
for the.

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:11,039
Speaker 6: Cock wild that I will not be promoting.

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01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:12,399
Speaker 2: But good