1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Master of the Nez podcast, the ultimate 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,080 destination for anyone passionate about the electrical trade. Whether you're 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,519 a season electrician and eager apprentice, or just someone who 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:15,000 wants to dive deep into the world of electrical work, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,679 You've come to the right place. Join your host, Paul Abernavi, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,199 a true authority in the industry with over thirty eight 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,359 years of trade experience, as he electrifies your mind with 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,359 in depth discussions, expertips, and valuable insights. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: That will keep you ahead of the curve. 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Each episode, Paul will illuminate the complexities of the trade, 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,640 de code, the National Electrical Code, and share the latest 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,000 industry trends, all while empowering you to take your electrical 13 00:00:42,039 --> 00:00:46,399 career to the next level. So hear up, plug in, 14 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:49,679 and get ready to supercharge your knowledge because with the 15 00:00:49,719 --> 00:00:53,479 Master of the Neez podcast, the power is in your hands. 16 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:58,479 Now get ready. 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Anyway, if you don't want to put 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,120 anything on your phone, that's fine, but you can find 47 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:31,759 everything over there, even our blogs. Now some people say 48 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:37,000 that blogging or the blogs are so nineteen well, no, 49 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:40,080 it's still a little too far, so early two thousands 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,280 or twenty and tens, and I disagree. I think blogs 51 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:48,199 are an amazing way to get lessons to people. We 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 can call them blogs all we want, but the reality 53 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,439 is it's just a way to be able to have 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,800 a short, very direct message, a lesson, if you will, 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,159 And that's the best way to do them. 56 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: And so we do that. 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: And whether you're watching our videos or anything like that, 58 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:09,479 if you want to get just a good lesson, there's 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,840 nothing better than reading the information and be able to 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,960 comprehend it. And that's the number one thing that I 61 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:18,080 do notice with people when they struggle on electrical exams 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,080 or struggling to learn the National Electrical Code. Do they 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,599 just they have reading comprehension problems, And hey, I've been there. 64 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,319 Speaker 2: I'm just like you. 65 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: You know, electricians started up from the field way back 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,800 in the eighties. I've been an electrician, been a master electrician, 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,800 owned multiple electoral contracting businesses, some more successful than others. 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Build a great company with my brother went on to 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,240 build my own, I've worked for municipalities. I've been the 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,719 engineer for the City of Richmond, Supervisor of Codes for 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,520 the City of Alexandria, Virginia. 72 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I went on to work with NIMA as. 73 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:55,919 Speaker 3: Their electrical expert for the South and then ended up 74 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:00,080 with Encore Wire as their director of Technical Services, and 75 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:04,439 now with Prismium. It's the world's largest wiring cable manufacturer. 76 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,759 So I've been around the block a little bit, uh 77 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,280 and talk quite a few. I think it's over eighty 78 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:13,719 thousand students through the years. So you know, I'm telling 79 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,959 you you can get a lot out of the information 80 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,519 that we share. 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,879 Speaker 2: Whether you like me or not. It's not about me. 82 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:22,439 Speaker 3: It's about you and what you can learn, and we 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,120 share you solid information on our blogs and things like that. 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,319 Speaker 2: So make sure you check it out. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,959 Speaker 3: And you can do that from our website again or 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 you can get the mobile app, whichever whichever you choose. 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Today episode Oh, first, I want to tell you that 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,839 we we do have a new video that is out. 89 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:44,480 It's two hours long. It's on establishing an electrically safe 90 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:48,920 work condition, which everybody that works in the electrical industry, 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,279 especially if you're working for somebody I mean, if you're 92 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,519 working for yourself, it's this paramount because you know, you 93 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:55,120 want to make sure that you go home every day. 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: And when you work for somebody. 95 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: It's it's it's extremely important that they provide you the 96 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:04,120 tools to make sure that you also are safe. 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,639 Speaker 2: But you have to do your own due diligence. 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's your responsibility to make sure that you 99 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:14,199 stay safe on the job, and you understand those type 100 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:14,600 of things. 101 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: So today we just want to talk a little bit. 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: Got a kind of paraphrase in an episode of what 103 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:23,000 you would get in our two hour video over on 104 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:26,199 fast tracks Tube. Also, if you haven't subscribed, now, we 105 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:30,759 don't share as much stuff on YouTube anymore. That's you know, 106 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,399 a lot of promotional stuff, a lot of salesy stuff, 107 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,160 and people give us a lot of crap for that. 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,279 But I'll be honest with you, I told you all 109 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:40,079 this two years ago. We're moving everything to fast tracks Tube. 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,959 It's a subscription platform. It helps support us. And if 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,199 you just want free stuff, that's fine. You can linger 112 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,360 over on YouTube and that's fine. There's some great info 113 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:50,759 over there, but we want to step it up a 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,959 little bit. So over in fast tracks Tube, all of 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 our content is really stepped up, so and that's where 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 we're going to be posting everything that we really do, 117 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:02,079 anything that's substantial, it's definitely gonna be on Fastrecs Tube. 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,040 And if you say I don't want to subscribe, that's fine, 119 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:06,399 you don't have to. You're not gonna break my heart. 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,920 But if you do want some good, you know, it's 121 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:11,319 basically less than a cup of coffee a day, So 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,560 ninety nine bucks a year, that's it, unlimited. You can 123 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,560 watch the videos, the webinars, the seminars that we have posted, 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,680 these two hour videos again that type of thing. 125 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, so thank you for joining me. Again. 126 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about establishing an electrically safe work condition. 127 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,279 We're going to be trying to do it as brief 128 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,040 as possible because we do know we have a video 129 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:37,160 out on that. So now, NFPA seventy E is a 130 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,480 document that's put out by NFPA, just like they put 131 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,000 out NFPA seventy and they put out NFPA seventy two, 132 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,240 n FPA seventy B, which incidentally we will have training 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,639 on for our thermography professionals as well. 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: But everybody needs to understand. 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: About electrical safety, especially if you're gonna be working in 136 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:58,680 the industry. And I've told people this at nausea that 137 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:04,439 you never ever, ever, ever ever assume something is not live. 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,920 You always assume that it's live. 139 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: Always. 140 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: Now you're the one that makes the decision whether or 141 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,040 not you want to move forward, whether it's simple or 142 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,079 changing illuminator in a dwelling, and you don't want to 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,319 test for absence of vaulted. You know, you're accountable for 144 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,519 your own actions. Don't blame other people. You're accountable. So 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,319 same thing happens here now. Funny thing about companies and 146 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,759 when you're dealing with ocean nineteen ten and all these 147 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,000 type of things. 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: The one of the things. 149 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: That people fail to see is that there is a 150 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:44,399 mutual understanding that has to take place between the employer. 151 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,319 Speaker 2: Which may be you if you're a one man show 152 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,000 or have a couple of people, or the employee. And 153 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,720 so you're just not blindly going into the light. Right. 154 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,319 I try to tell people this all the time. 155 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: Is electrician, you're they're always going to be responsible for 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,040 you actions. Yeah, you're gonna have bosses, Yeah, you're gonna 157 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,600 have people above you. That tell you to do this 158 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,360 or that or whatever. But at the end of the day, 159 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:11,800 nobody is responsible for your actions. But you, Okay, if 160 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,399 you get complacent, or you don't follow procedure, or you 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,959 deviate from something for whatever reason, you listen to somebody's 162 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,720 information that is inaccurate just because you assume that you 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,680 trust them. 164 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: That's on you. 165 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know how brutally honest that can be 166 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,159 with many of you, especially people that have been hurt 167 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:34,159 in the industry or whatever like that. I mean, at 168 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:38,799 the end of the day, the responsibility is firmly in 169 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:42,080 your hands. Now, the employer has an responsibility to make 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,559 sure that if you're coming to work for them, that 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,080 they provide adequate training. You have safety meetings, you're abreast 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,480 of all changes in the environment. You know, and ppe 173 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:59,279 is provided by the employer. Lockout, tagout procedures, lockout tagout equipment. 174 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: All of these things. 175 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:06,039 Speaker 3: There's a mutual relationship that takes place. So when safety 176 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,720 breaks down, it's it's rarely both sides. 177 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: It's it's rare. 178 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:14,279 Speaker 3: It's usually one side breaks down and then you know 179 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,039 it affects the other side or vice versa. Now does 180 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,080 both of them break down. Yes, it obviously if a 181 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:23,919 company doesn't do what they need to do and then 182 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,799 you don't do your due diligence, then the whole system 183 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,759 breaks down. But if the company doesn't provide what they 184 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:33,480 need to provide and you keep your high standards of 185 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,360 checking for absence the voltage, making sure you have proper 186 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:39,759 PP available to you, if you balk at it because 187 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:43,120 you don't have those things, then you're upholding this this 188 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,519 safety plan that needs to be in place. And so 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,919 you as an employee need to always speak up because 190 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:54,039 you may notice some deficiencies in the safety plan from 191 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,759 the company, and it's your responsibility to speak up and 192 00:09:57,799 --> 00:09:59,240 not just say, well, I don't want to be that 193 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,519 squeaky wheel you got you have to be that squeaky 194 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:06,759 wheel because there's other people involved that may not notice 195 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:11,559 the uh, the the uh, the deficiencies in a in 196 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:14,519 an existing safety program and maybe you just have this 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,159 insight and it's your responsibility. 198 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: Too. 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,879 Speaker 3: Many electricians aren't verbal enough when it comes to things 200 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,279 like that. And of course everybody, uh, you know that 201 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,639 that that gets hurt always plays, you know, everybody plays 202 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:34,519 Monday morning quarterback on that. But you you hold that 203 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,559 in your hand. I don't work on anything, you know. 204 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:39,879 Obviously today I take a lot of shit from people, 205 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,759 you know, because I am I'm actively retired from in 206 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,799 the field. I do help my brother out from time 207 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,639 to time, but I'm actively retired now from in the field. 208 00:10:49,039 --> 00:10:51,799 This is what I do. I'm an expert in code. 209 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: I teach code. 210 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,919 Speaker 3: And you know that old saying those that teach can't 211 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:57,159 do they're so full of shit because we did it 212 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,000 for so many years. How can we teach people if 213 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,960 we didn't do it. But anyway that makes them feel 214 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,919 good about themselves. So they gonna say something like that, 215 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,120 and that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. Whatever, 216 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,759 whatever helps you feel better. But at the end of 217 00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:14,879 the day, you have to be accountable for your own actions, right, 218 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,840 just flat out, And so I tell people all the time, 219 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,080 you have to stay constantly abreast of any changes that 220 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:26,200 take place in the industry. You if you if you're 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,559 going to be involved in the industry. 222 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:29,919 Speaker 2: Okay, now shift it. 223 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: Shift the gears to the electrical safety part of this. 224 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,039 So today I'm gonna talk a little bit about establishing 225 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,600 electrically safe work condition. Again, I'm not gonna take it 226 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,720 away from the two hour video that's over on fast 227 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Tracks Tube, which I encourage you to go check out 228 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:43,279 fast Tracks Tube. 229 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:45,879 Speaker 2: T R e X Okay, not t R A c K, 230 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,960 it's t R a X. Go check it out. 231 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,159 Speaker 3: You do have to be a subscriber that type of thing. 232 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,360 We probably will be doing a little sample snigglet video 233 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,799 or something like that, snigkelet or whatever you call it. 234 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:02,480 We'll probably do that just you can get a flavor 235 00:12:02,519 --> 00:12:04,960 for it. I don't think it's available now, but at 236 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,440 the end of the day, check it out. If you're 237 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,799 a subscriber, if you're an enhanced fast Track student, you 238 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,759 should have access to it. 239 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:11,799 Speaker 2: Make sure you go check it out. 240 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: I think you'll get a lot out of it because 241 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:19,320 it is all about your safety now. NFPA seventy E 242 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:22,720 is a document that is updated every couple of years, 243 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:26,720 just like the NEEC is right every three years, and 244 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,639 it's designed too that if you follow it then you 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,159 will be compliant with OSHA. Now, OSHA is a hard 246 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,399 document to change. It's legal aspects to that document. It 247 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,240 is not consensus and it is tough to change it. However, 248 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,720 NFPA seventy E, just like seventy and seventy B can 249 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:52,039 be changed every three years, so the process of changing 250 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:58,000 it helps look for weaknesses, deficiencies, and better safety compliance 251 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,799 with any standard like an OSHA in nineteen ten. So 252 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:07,240 that document is governed by NFPA, which is in charge 253 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,519 of making sure that they go through the process, the 254 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,200 consensus process of changes and updates and modifications in order 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,720 to make sure it stays relevant and it helps us 256 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:19,559 with things that may come up that we weren't aware 257 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,080 of in a safety deficiency manner. 258 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: And it fixes it right. 259 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: So Article one point twenty covers the placement of electrical 260 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,559 equipment in an electrically safe work condition, which means that 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,519 the equipment is locked out, tagged out, tested for the 262 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:42,559 absence of voltage and we're necessary grounded. Now, OSHA and 263 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,440 n FPA seventy follow the same line of reasoning with 264 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,600 electrical lockout tag out procedures. So by virtue of understanding 265 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,279 n FPA seventy E, which is be honest with you, 266 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,679 it's going to be a much easier to understand than 267 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,519 the OSHA. Okay, so that's why most of you work sites, 268 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,399 y'all talk about seventy EU and PPE and approach boundaries 269 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,159 and all that because n f PA seventy is a 270 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,080 little easier to be able to pilot. And of course 271 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,440 there's so many documents now with LINK that that actually 272 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,960 have commentary that if there's any questions you may have 273 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,720 that you can ask, you know, you can see it 274 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:21,000 there and get a little additional clarity. So that makes 275 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:23,200 it great for people, especially when it comes to safety, 276 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:29,120 right having that information at your fingertips, it's great. So away, 277 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:32,360 while I may be upset at n FPA at their 278 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,200 lack of allowing educators to use LINK, I'm ignoring them 279 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,240 and using the fair use and you know, and I'm 280 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,879 going to continue to use it whether they like it 281 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,919 or not. They want to cut me off, then cut 282 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,399 me off. I'm continuing to use it, i am, And 283 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,399 if they cut me off, I'll just get another account 284 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,320 under some other weird name and some other account. 285 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: I'll keep doing it until I keep doing it. 286 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm letting them know right now unless you 287 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,480 can come up with a way to block an IP, 288 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,200 and of course I can spoof IP with the VPN, 289 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:03,759 So I'm just already telling you might as well sue me, 290 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:08,360 because as an educator. It is my responsibility to make 291 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:12,000 sure that we convey accurate information. And sometimes when it 292 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:16,120 comes to electrical safety, whether it's seventy or seventy E 293 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,480 or seventy B, and paraphrasing is just not going to work. 294 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:24,600 It's just not because you know what. And if you 295 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,559 want to argue otherwise, then you're not really an educator. 296 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,879 Speaker 2: You're a wannabe. 297 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,559 Speaker 3: You don't get it, Okay, So or if you want 298 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:35,679 to suck the teat of n FPA, that's fine. I mean, 299 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:38,279 I think they're a great organization, but again they need 300 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,679 to stop being so money centric and realize that all 301 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,480 of us out here produce those documents for them. All 302 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:49,320 they do is compile those documents. Okay, that's it. They 303 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,919 compile it, print it, distribute it. Shit. 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: I can do that. I'm just saying. 305 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: But it is a worthwhile association, and I encourage you 306 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:00,120 to join. But again, I'm just hoping they get less 307 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:04,360 about money. I'm just saying, especially when you put yourself 308 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:08,440 as a safety association. It's different if you're for profit, 309 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,240 I get it, But if you're putting yourself out there 310 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,519 as a safety organization, that's different anyway. 311 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:17,639 Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna be talking about today. Are 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,039 you know? 313 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,639 Speaker 3: The objectives of the video that is over on YouTube 314 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,440 is to identify ocean regulations and to give you an 315 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,159 overview of a simple and a complex lockout tag out procedure. 316 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,679 Explain what is induced voltage versus backfed voltage because they 317 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:40,600 are different. It reminds me also take an opportunity to 318 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,759 go to our blog and read my blog on the 319 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:49,159 differences in induced voltage, backfed voltage and things like that, 320 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,799 because it's a great article. And again that's an example 321 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,879 of where you can learn something. 322 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,399 Speaker 2: Again. 323 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,639 Speaker 3: People say that blogs are going out of style. I disagree. 324 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:03,240 I read blogs all the freaking time. It's like many 325 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,559 technical manuals, if you will, if a blog is done right, 326 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:11,039 If it's done right, we explain in the video that's 327 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,799 over on FasTracks too. We explain how to perform the 328 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,319 absence of voltage testing and why it's so important as 329 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:18,720 an electrician for you to do that. 330 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: Before you touch anything. And I'll also. 331 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: Remind you that these these UH proximity testers, the tickers 332 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,680 we refer to them as tickers, can be a benefit 333 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,720 in a lot of applications. But depending on the system. 334 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,160 Uh you want to You never want to rely on them. 335 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,839 And my brother says this all the time. He'say like, yeah, 336 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:41,119 I've got one, but I don't rely on it. And 337 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:45,359 I'm like, without saying, uh, you're right, I'll I'll just 338 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,920 I'll just say oh, I agree. 339 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: But he's absolutely right. 340 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,319 Speaker 3: You never rely on There might be good to give 341 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,599 you an initial uh sense of what's there, but then 342 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,920 you have to go to a meter. Now, whether you're 343 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,799 using a high impedance or a low impedance, you should 344 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:02,720 have meter that has both. There are ways around that 345 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,839 to use things like a solenoid type meter or a 346 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,599 meter that's you know, like an old analog meter. There 347 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,839 are ways that you can identify induced voltage versus backfed 348 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,279 voltage and all that. But again, we have a great 349 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,400 blog that actually walks you through how to do that. 350 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:21,599 So if you're thinking, dude, I need I need to 351 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,519 know how to do this, you know, and I want 352 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:27,759 to be a real electrician, then go read the blog 353 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,480 because I'll break it down for you. We also talk 354 00:18:31,519 --> 00:18:34,000 about in the video three types of instruments that can 355 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,920 be used. Again, we talk about the solenoid type. We 356 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,079 saw proximity and we talk about a digital multimeter and 357 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,160 all that kind of stuff. We do explain in the 358 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,279 video lockout tagout principles that are covered in n FPA 359 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,279 seventy one twenty three kind of go through each of those. Again, 360 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:56,559 I explained the simple and complex lockout tagout procedure. 361 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: You know, incidentally, the company you work for. 362 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: If you work for a company that has multiple employees, 363 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,240 and you work in an environment where you're be working 364 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:11,079 on equipment, switch gear, motors, industrial applications and again commercial 365 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:13,240 as well. But again if you're working with a group 366 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:16,440 and you're working on larger projects, you need to make 367 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,880 sure that there is a safety professional that's going to 368 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,160 make sure that you have weekly meetings. And anytime there's 369 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,440 a change in something, a new piece of equipment comes in, 370 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:30,200 a new test equipment, new lockout tagout procedure changes, anything changes, 371 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,960 they need to have a safety meeting and bring everybody 372 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:37,559 up to speed. It's not cliche, it's what you should do. 373 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,640 It's part of your electrical safety plan and you need 374 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,559 to do it. So whoever's listening out there, if you're 375 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:46,599 the one that's in charge of the safety plan within 376 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,920 your company, then that's on you. Okay, you make sure 377 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,759 that you provide that for everybody and you keep it updated. 378 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: Definitely. 379 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: Any new people come on, they need to be brought 380 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,880 up the speed. Nonwother thing about that is all the 381 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,319 electricians need to understand this and remember that their brotherhood here. 382 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,359 That when somebody new comes in and you know that 383 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,559 they've never been seen at a safety meeting whatever, that 384 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,480 you stop and say, hey, we have safety protocols here. 385 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,000 You might want to talk to the head guy or 386 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:19,039 the head safety professional or whoever, or the lead guy 387 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,200 whatever to bring you up to speed. You might say, nah, 388 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,000 I'm not going to talk to anybody. Well, that's a 389 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:30,960 problem because we need communication, not smart ass communication, but communication. 390 00:20:31,519 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: Share it with people. 391 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: You're protecting each other in the trade. Electricity kills. 392 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: It does. 393 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,279 Speaker 3: It's an amazing thing, but again it can kill pretty quickly. 394 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:49,559 So also in that we kind of briefly talk about 395 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:52,160 the you know, different equipment for lockout tag out, and 396 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,359 whether you can get away with a lock only, whether 397 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,160 or not you can get away with a tag only, 398 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,039 and those type of things. 399 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:00,319 Speaker 2: We kind of cover that in a video, so that 400 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,720 out and of course we. 401 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: Also talk about when you're doing these tests and you 402 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,039 simply just can't get rid of the voltage, whether it's 403 00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:10,799 induced voltage or whatever, then you need to ground out 404 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:14,480 the system. So we kind of talk about the preventative 405 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:19,279 type of a grounding system, temporary protective grounding system. We 406 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,599 kind of touch on it, but again that is something 407 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,759 that it's as simple as clamping each of the lines 408 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:28,920 to ground. When you're getting a certain level of voltage 409 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,720 and you know that you've got things locked out, you 410 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:33,960 know that, but you're still getting this low level and 411 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,119 you can't get rid of it, then you can move 412 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,680 on to the temporary protective grounding equipment. 413 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: And it's very important where you do this one. 414 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: It can't hinder your operation too because of the ability 415 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,759 for it to potentially get turned on and have that 416 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,960 fault current. You need to be very aware of where 417 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,559 you put this, so it's just not right in your 418 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:54,599 face where you're working on the equipment. You have to 419 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,359 look at the equipment, and so we kind of touch 420 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,279 on that. But nothing's going to take the place of 421 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:04,680 you doing this on site right, working with people on site, 422 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:06,440 in your professionals, that type of thing. 423 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: So that's that's really important. Now. 424 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: According to Osher regulations, electrical equipment is not de energized 425 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,799 until it has been locked out, tagged out, or tested 426 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:20,200 for the absence of voltage and if needed, may need 427 00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:24,400 a grounding scheme that takes place in order to get 428 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:28,000 rid of it. Again, remember fantom voltage, even induced voltage, 429 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:32,720 or even backfed maybe from other sources. All this type 430 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,640 stuff needs to be rectified before you work on the equipment. Now, 431 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,599 we do have such things as live work permits, and 432 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,559 that is where turning power off could be a greater hazard. 433 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,880 You know, then leaving it on very rare requires work permits. 434 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Don't recommend it. There's very limited applications where you need 435 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,400 to work on anything live, but that is something you 436 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,559 need to talk with your company and make sure there's 437 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:01,119 a bunch of crossing the tea dot in the eyes 438 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,920 proper ppe fully aware of the situation, and be very 439 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,319 justified and why you need to do it. 440 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Otherwise there is no need to do it. 441 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: Even Osha nineteen ten dot three three three I believe 442 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,279 says shut it down, shut it down, deenergize it, make 443 00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:19,480 sure you check for the absence of it, check it 444 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:23,000 before and check it after. It also reminds you to 445 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,920 test your equipment, Okay, what you should do. So we 446 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,279 talk about lockout tagout procedures in the video and we 447 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,160 also walk. 448 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: You through the process. UH. 449 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,079 Speaker 3: And in that process, we're referring to things like nineteen 450 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,680 ten dot one forty seven and nineteen ten dot three 451 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,720 three three UH, as well as n f PA SEVDE 452 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,839 one twenty dot five A four for the requirements of 453 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,480 a simple lockout tagout procedure and then of course we 454 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,640 kind of openly talk about the more complex of one 455 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:56,160 twenty dot five A five UH when you when you're 456 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,559 dealing with a more complex like it's going to have 457 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,200 a lockout tag out on a session that's going to 458 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,079 go multiple days, or there's multiple crews that are working 459 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,920 in the environment and things like that that immediately takes 460 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,559 it from a simple lockout tag out to a complex 461 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,359 We do cover that and get into detailed in the 462 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,839 video that's over on fastrextube dot com for those that 463 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,920 are interested, and we again we'll talk about sources of 464 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,240 power in understanding that you nearly have to up to 465 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,680 date electrical drawings one line drawings. 466 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: You need to know. 467 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: Where the possible sources are, where there may be transfer equipment, 468 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,079 where there may be some type of switching that they 469 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,240 could put in it vertinently re energize something when you 470 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,440 think you have it locked out. So again it's on you. 471 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,759 You don't take anybody's word for it. It's on you now. Also, 472 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,640 it talks about drawings and if you don't have one 473 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,559 line drawings, then you have to have something that is 474 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:53,799 considered equally effective. Now, to be equally effective means that 475 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,559 all sources must be clearly identifiable and each employee involved, 476 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,079 everybody that's involved in the system must be able to 477 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,039 access this information and understand how to perform lockout tagouts. 478 00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:09,559 So again, as a talking to an employer, you better 479 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:13,640 have weekly meetings. You better make sure that you everybody's 480 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,720 clear on the process. And my advice, and I give 481 00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:22,880 this in the video, my advice is to document everything everything. 482 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,319 I'm serious, document it all so you know that that 483 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,119 way you're protected, right, so you know, and when we 484 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,319 do also I talk about it, I don't really show 485 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:37,960 you very you know, I show you some images of 486 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,920 some meters. But a low voltage proximity tester and a 487 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,279 low input impedance multimeter are used to determine induced or 488 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:52,160 backfit voltages. Now, if a high input a high input 489 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:58,680 impedance multimeter does indicate voltage, a low input impedance multimeter 490 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,880 is then used to make in the circuit. 491 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,759 Speaker 2: Okay, because a. 492 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:07,519 Speaker 3: Low input impedance voltage says or will effectively ground the 493 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,559 circuit based on the meter's design if the voltage is induced, 494 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:16,079 but it will not create an unsafe arc flask situation 495 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,720 because you're using a motor a meter that is actually 496 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,160 class listed for the application you're using. Now, a low 497 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,359 input impedance multimeter will either indicate voltage, which is a 498 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,559 typical indication of backfed voltage because remember, low impedance is 499 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,720 going to ground it out, So if it's induced voltage, 500 00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:40,240 it'll it'll it'll get it to where you don't detect it. However, 501 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,079 if you're using a low impedance and you are getting vaulted, 502 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,440 then that means it's probably not high probability that it 503 00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:51,400 is not induced voltage, but it is backfed voltage. Okay, 504 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680 So if that's the case, you've got to be very 505 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:02,559 very careful of that. So just be aware of that, 506 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:09,240 and again you can use low impedance multimeters that type. 507 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: Of thing as well. 508 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: Let's see here, now, if a low impedance voltage tester 509 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,680 is measuring a voltage even though it may be. 510 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: Less than one hundred volts. 511 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,799 Speaker 3: And a proximity tester that's little ones like the little 512 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,880 tickers indicate the presence of voltage. 513 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: Then there's a high probability at that point. 514 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,759 Speaker 3: That it's actually backfed voltage and it's not induced voltage. 515 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,480 So anyway, we cover kind of look at that and 516 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,440 show you some examples of a ticker. But again, nothing's 517 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359 going to take the place of using a multimeter. Preferably 518 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 you have a multimeter that has a low impedance input 519 00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:46,960 and a high impedance input hopefully, hopefully that's what. 520 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,519 Speaker 2: You got testing the absence of voltage. 521 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,839 Speaker 3: Again, responsibility of the employee to do this, not the employer. 522 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,319 The employee's responsibility to test this. 523 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, that type of thing. And so, and we go 524 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,519 through the lockout tag. 525 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:09,839 Speaker 3: Out procedures and kind of at nausea in that video. 526 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,960 And so we talk a little bit about what's called 527 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,839 the temporary protective grinding equipment as well, and I show 528 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,359 a picture of that. So if you're thinking, what are 529 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,240 you talking about, Basically it's tying all the phases, you know, 530 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,240 checking for the absence of power. Now you're getting low 531 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,000 levels of voltage at this point, you're going to use 532 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,160 protective devices that actually will allow you to clamp onto 533 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,240 those and collect it to the grounding scheme, and that 534 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:36,759 will effectively reduce the voltage if that's what you're running into. 535 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,839 But it's a process, and each one of those manufacturers 536 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:44,200 of those temporary protective grounding equipment understand that. And of 537 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,400 course there's no one size fits all because again, you 538 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960 could have fault current situations if something gets turned on 539 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,519 or something happens, and so you need to make sure 540 00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:56,759 that that system is designed properly and that those conductors 541 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:01,720 for that temporary protective grinding equipment can actually handle the 542 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,359 fault current. So there's a whole process here. We're not 543 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,559 going to tell you how to size that. That is 544 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:11,319 outside the scope. That is an engineered professional design system, 545 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,319 and so we're not going to get into that. That's 546 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,599 something that you need to not learn by listening to 547 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:19,480 a podcast or watching a video online. You have to 548 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,160 put your hands on it. If you do it, look 549 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,480 at the manufacturers recommendations, talk to the design engineer, especially 550 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,759 if they're asking you to work on something and you're 551 00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,240 not able to totally de energize it because there is 552 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:36,079 a presence of voltage. Well, then if there is any 553 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,240 presence of voltage, you must do something to eliminate that, 554 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960 and that's where the grounding, the temporary protective grounding system 555 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,160 will come into play. Okay, Anyway, that's kind of an 556 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,200 overview of what we're going to cover over on that video. 557 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,799 It's a two hour video. It's the one of a 558 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,799 multi part series over on. We'll probably have another one 559 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,400 that gets more deep into lockout tag out procedures as well. 560 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,000 But this is kind of what it has to do 561 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:08,799 with creating establishing an electrically safe work condition. So if 562 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,559 you go in there with this mindset up front and 563 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,960 realize that you're responsible for yourself. Yes, there's other things 564 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,599 that the employer has to provide, but there's also things 565 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,240 that you as the qualified person. And we're going to 566 00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:28,640 assume that you are the qualified person, right, so in 567 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,799 that scenario, you have certain responsibilities as well. You share 568 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:38,240 responsibility in the electrical safety program. 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