Speaker 1: They loved and.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, you have found the only all night radio show
Speaker 2: that's live and actually entertaining thanks to Dave Scott, a
Speaker 2: dreaded I mean, a known comedian Canadian and who can
Speaker 2: update us on the wildfires which seem to be getting bigger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. And you know, just south of us,
Speaker 3: near Colowna, British Columbia, my sister lives and she just
Speaker 3: got evacuated in the last couple of days because there's
Speaker 3: a new major wildfire or what I like to call
Speaker 3: bureaucracy fire in that area right now too. So it's
Speaker 3: a very humbling experience. But the good news is I've
Speaker 3: had two days without any forest fire smoke, so I'm
Speaker 3: pretty happy right now.
Speaker 2: I believe that the forest fires are so virulent and
Speaker 2: prevalent because those are chemical fires. They just happen to
Speaker 2: be chemicals on trees.
Speaker 3: And not only the chemicals that are being placed on trees, Walter,
Speaker 3: the glycipates that they are spraying, which they are said,
Speaker 3: you know, because when we put these chemicals out there,
Speaker 3: they always say, well, it's for the betterment of the environment.
Speaker 3: It's going to kill the pine beetles, an evasive species
Speaker 3: of bush and trees, and we're going to have more
Speaker 3: luscious and vibrant forest. But what they don't talk about
Speaker 3: is how these glycipates that they are throwing out there
Speaker 3: into the wilderness seem to dry out trees faster, live
Speaker 3: healthy trees really getting really getting dried out.
Speaker 2: Yes, whoa, the chemicals that are put on the trees
Speaker 2: to help them grow or to get rid of bugs
Speaker 2: are drying them out and making them more volatile.
Speaker 3: Well, we're not wanting to that because that would mean
Speaker 3: the government is wrong. Oh my god, right right, And
Speaker 3: you know how many times do we have to hear
Speaker 3: trust the science.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. The chemical which I can never pronounce,
Speaker 2: would you pronounce that for me again?
Speaker 3: It's called glycopates, glycophates.
Speaker 2: The glycopates that they spray on trees helps the trees grow,
Speaker 2: It helps the trees get rid of bugs and pests,
Speaker 2: and it dries them out and makes them more follidle.
Speaker 3: Well, to make a little bit of a correction there,
Speaker 3: it doesn't help them grow, but it does help contain
Speaker 3: evasive species of plants, of bush, of brush, of certain
Speaker 3: types of trees that are literally grow like weeds and
Speaker 3: they don't want that. We also have a big problem
Speaker 3: with pine beetle infestation here because you know, the last
Speaker 3: time you know, the trust me bro science is brought
Speaker 3: in something into our forest, it was a pine beetle
Speaker 3: in order that they brought over from I believe Asia,
Speaker 3: that was supposed to help eat or eradicate another species,
Speaker 3: but they ended up eating a bunch of trees and
Speaker 3: killing trees as well. So I think we just have
Speaker 3: to learn a lesson here. Let's just leave the bloody
Speaker 3: forest alone. Okay, Let's clean it up and leave it alone.
Speaker 3: That way we don't get these bureaucratic fires that are
Speaker 3: going on as we have going on right now in
Speaker 3: British Columbia.
Speaker 2: It's a positive historic fact that whenever mankind tries to
Speaker 2: engineer nature by using animals, plants, by using nature against itself,
Speaker 2: it never works out.
Speaker 3: You're right. But here's the other thing too, and the
Speaker 3: reason why. And look, I've been taking some heat. Even
Speaker 3: my old my own dad kind of snapped at me
Speaker 3: a little bit, and I said, when I called them, yeah,
Speaker 3: when I called them the bureaucracy fires. Because my dad's
Speaker 3: a boomer. He is somebody who still watches the news
Speaker 3: every night because the news is very accurate. They haven't
Speaker 3: seen the change in news broadcasts. And here's the thing
Speaker 3: about it that kind of upset him was when I
Speaker 3: brought up the fact. I said, Dad, do you remember
Speaker 3: that when you were up here last we saw that
Speaker 3: forest fire that had started out and we saw the
Speaker 3: fire trucks going up and he goes, yeah. I said,
Speaker 3: did you know that the fire trucks were told to
Speaker 3: stand back and not put it out?
Speaker 1: And what did he say?
Speaker 3: He goes, what are you kidding me? He goes, that's
Speaker 3: their job. I said, yes, And that is happening all
Speaker 3: across Canada with a lot of these forest fires. Is
Speaker 3: there are people who want to help, who are willing
Speaker 3: to help, people who have water trucks, fire departments, other firefighters.
Speaker 3: We're bringing in firefighters from all over the world. We
Speaker 3: just got to a shipment of firefighters from Mexico to
Speaker 3: come up here and help battle the blazes. Okay, why
Speaker 3: do we not allow water bombers to fight the fires
Speaker 3: at night? I know it's more dangerous, okay, but why
Speaker 3: aren't they fighting them at night when these things during
Speaker 3: a wind can move anywhere from five to twenty miles
Speaker 3: in a night if the wind picks up. Because what
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know is that forest fires
Speaker 3: create their own atmospheres where you could have fire, tornadoes,
Speaker 3: lightning storms, raided storms, and a lot of wind storms.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize that. So why are
Speaker 3: we not doing more? It sounds like simple mathematics, where
Speaker 3: two plus two should equal four, but in the government
Speaker 3: way of doing things, two plus two equals one point
Speaker 3: two six seven eight, five three six infinity.
Speaker 2: It's it's terrifying and bizarre, and it's it's fascinating how
Speaker 2: weather creates its own I'm sorry, forest fires create their
Speaker 2: own weather because they're they're so huge and they're so hot,
Speaker 2: absolutely terrifying. Therefore, there's no news here that these are
Speaker 2: getting smaller. They're continuing and getting bigger.
Speaker 3: But the interesting part, and mark my words, I want
Speaker 3: you to mark this on your calendar.
Speaker 1: Marketing.
Speaker 3: By Labor Day, it'll be done Labor day, Yeah, it'll
Speaker 3: all be done.
Speaker 2: Yes, and tell us the mystery of that. Tell us
Speaker 2: what happens on labor Day.
Speaker 3: A lot of the forest fire up here in Canada,
Speaker 3: school doesn't start until after labor Day. It's not like
Speaker 3: many states in the US where you're starting school in August,
Speaker 3: which is stupid. Up here, it starts after Labor Day,
Speaker 3: which is correct. And a lot of the firefighters are summer,
Speaker 3: our summer firefighters, and they are students, university students, kids
Speaker 3: who just graduated from high school, maybe they're going to
Speaker 3: college or a trade school. And it's always amazing how
Speaker 3: the fires seem to be fully contained or wrapped up
Speaker 3: by Labor Day before the kids go back to school.
Speaker 2: Well, we've learned a lot today about the fires. Let
Speaker 2: me just sum it up. Because you're doing a great
Speaker 2: job as a journalist. You're a great broadcaster and journalist,
Speaker 2: and you have a strange beard. And the graphics that
Speaker 2: you use, the AI graphics to promote your promote your
Speaker 2: various activities, are stunning. I'm really proud of you. I'm
Speaker 2: really impressed with your graphics. That's that's every now and
Speaker 2: then I have this fantasy, No, not that fantasy. I
Speaker 2: have an AI fantasy, and I try to do things
Speaker 2: with AI not even close, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Even even like my fourteen year olds go no dad, Dad, no,
Speaker 2: just no dad, and they discourage me. It's it's very upsetting.
Speaker 2: But what we've learned is very valuable stuff. The chemicals
Speaker 2: sprayed on trees to to keep away bugs and to
Speaker 2: keep away bugs mostly, I guess, and so that they
Speaker 2: can grow those chemicals dry out the trees and make
Speaker 2: them more susceptible to fire. That's amazing to me. And
Speaker 2: then the next thing we've learned is that when firetrucks
Speaker 2: show up from local municipalities to do what they're supposed
Speaker 2: to do, which is to put out the fire, they're
Speaker 2: told to stand down by secret government forces. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: And then the best part is that these fires are
Speaker 2: often managed by college students, and they need a lot
Speaker 2: of college students to manage these fires. And then by
Speaker 2: Labor Day the college students go back to school fires
Speaker 2: mysteriously put out. Have I got it down here.
Speaker 3: In my conspiratorial way. I think you nailed it on
Speaker 3: the head.
Speaker 2: All right, conspiracies are key. Now please share with us
Speaker 2: your extraterrestrial Bigfoot. The scientists refuse to test the DNA
Speaker 2: of Bigfoot. That was quite a story.
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to go back into the UFO world
Speaker 3: here for a second, because he was a good friend
Speaker 3: of yours and mine. Ross cultares Ross has come out
Speaker 3: and basically said, you know, and I have mentioned this
Speaker 3: on this segment many a times, that there was allegedly
Speaker 3: a prepared speech that President Trump was going to potentially
Speaker 3: be reading that we are not alone in the universe. Well,
Speaker 3: Ross has come out on News Nation and basically said, yeah,
Speaker 3: that letter doesn't exist. His sources are telling him that
Speaker 3: the whole idea that Trump was going to come out
Speaker 3: and give UFO disclosure to the American public was just
Speaker 3: a ruse. It is not going to happen. There is
Speaker 3: no speech written at this time regarding this subject, although
Speaker 3: the President continues to move towards disclosure by allowing people
Speaker 3: who've worked in government and for the military to go
Speaker 3: against their NDAs and actually talk to Congress people and
Speaker 3: other UFO groups within the Pentagon behind the curtain, not
Speaker 3: in front of the curtain where you and I get
Speaker 3: access to him, but behind the curtain. That there is
Speaker 3: no plan right now that there will be any UFO
Speaker 3: speech that we are not alone in our universe. Now,
Speaker 3: for us in the UFO world, this is old hat.
Speaker 3: We're like, well, of course he's not going to make
Speaker 3: a speech that would you know, that would not be
Speaker 3: healthy for a lot of people, and I think that's
Speaker 3: really what it's coming down to. So on one end,
Speaker 3: they're kind of trying to kill this story, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: on one side, while still promoting the UAP aspect, which
Speaker 3: is unidentified anomalist phenomena, in order to try and say, hey,
Speaker 3: we're going to be giving you what we know, like
Speaker 3: Walter Cronkite's speeches and interviews along the UFO subject, to
Speaker 3: keep the subject going publicly because it has been positive
Speaker 3: press for the government, but as far as getting to
Speaker 3: the real Nicholin Dime aspect, because in my opinion, there
Speaker 3: is a difference between UFO and you a P. The
Speaker 3: government term you a P being man made object. We
Speaker 3: want the UFOs, we want the aliens, we want the
Speaker 3: flying saucers, and that just seems to be something that
Speaker 3: there's trying to skirt around again, do.
Speaker 2: You have any other updates? We must cover it now,
Speaker 2: mister Scott.
Speaker 3: I'm tapped out. I hate to tell you that, boss,
Speaker 3: but I'm tapped out for you.
Speaker 2: Then you better tell us how to find you, reach
Speaker 2: you and go to your store.
Speaker 3: Well, you can go to space out Radio dot com
Speaker 3: where we have our great store which includes the Walter M.
Speaker 3: Sterling UFO T shirt where Walter is flying a UFO.
Speaker 3: I just put on a new T shirt up there
Speaker 3: too that if you're no Devil's in Wyoming. From close
Speaker 3: Encounters to the third time, there is a big debate
Speaker 3: on whether or not that is actually a rock or
Speaker 3: it's just a giant tree stump. You know. Me being
Speaker 3: on the conspiratorial side, I like to think of it
Speaker 3: as a tree stump. So you can go get your
Speaker 3: team stump T shirts there. Now.
Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating what you just explained. That those mountains
Speaker 2: with the flat tops that are huge and look weird
Speaker 2: as though they were formed by like stalagmites. There's a
Speaker 2: popular mystery which is that those may not be rock
Speaker 2: formations at all. They may be petrified trees, giant petrified
Speaker 2: trees that were cut down tens of thousands of years ago.
Speaker 2: This is the new theory and it's fascinating, all right,
Speaker 2: Dave Scott, good friend of the show. Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for sharing this time with us. On the other
Speaker 2: side of midnight, I'm Walter Sterling coming up in just seconds.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have new information and updates about that poor
Speaker 2: little girl. Who was on a cruise ship with her
Speaker 2: parents and mysteriously disappeared, and every couple months there's a
Speaker 2: new theory about what happened to her, where she went.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, those parents acted spooky, scary, terrifying all
Speaker 2: of this and you Walter Sterling the Other Side of
Speaker 2: Midnight from the Red Apple Audio Networks.
Speaker 4: Portuguese police have told BBC Panorama they have apologized to
Speaker 4: the parents of Madeline McCann for the way they handled
Speaker 4: the case. Three year old Madeline went missing during a
Speaker 4: family holiday in Portugal in two thousand and seven. Her
Speaker 4: parents were initially questioned as suspects.
Speaker 5: After seventeen long years, Madeline McCann has finally been found,
Speaker 5: shocking the world once again. Her disappearance in two thousand
Speaker 5: and seven from a vacation home in Portugal left everyone
Speaker 5: wondering if the truth would ever come to light. Over
Speaker 5: the years, her case became one of the most famous
Speaker 5: unsolved disappearances, with countless investigations but no soliday answers what
Speaker 5: really happened. After all these years, we will uncover the
Speaker 5: hidden quarters of the case that nobody wants you to
Speaker 5: know about. Carlson's big reveal on Maline. Carlson's recent revelation
Speaker 5: suggests there might be a woman who closely resembles the
Speaker 5: age progressed images of Maline, which has reignited interest and
Speaker 5: hope around the case. This new development could potentially bring
Speaker 5: an end to years of waiting and wondering. For her family,
Speaker 5: The thought of finally finding Maline alive brings a mix
Speaker 5: of emotions, from relief to an overwhelming sense of anticipation.
Speaker 5: The impact of such a discovery would be huge, not
Speaker 5: just for her family, but for everyone who has followed
Speaker 5: her story over the years. It challenges the sorrow in
Speaker 5: despair that have clouded this case, offering a glimmer of
Speaker 5: hope that she might still be found. Before we dive
Speaker 5: into this revelation, it's clear that what's been uncovered could
Speaker 5: be far more shocking than anyone ever imagined, and this
Speaker 5: might not be the only surprise waiting to be revealed.
Speaker 5: If this woman really is Maline, questions about how she
Speaker 5: lived unnoticed for so many years begin to surface. Was
Speaker 5: she taken and hidden away? Has she been living a
Speaker 5: life under a different identity, unaware of her real past.
Speaker 5: Each possibility opens up a range of scenarios each filled
Speaker 5: with its own set of dramatic implications. The media frenzy
Speaker 5: following Carlson's announcement has put Maline's story back in the spotlight.
Speaker 5: The involvement of public figures and celebrities over the years
Speaker 5: has kept her case in the public eye, but this
Speaker 5: new potential breakthrough could be what finally helps crack it open.
Speaker 5: Now with the possibility of her being found, the conversation
Speaker 5: shifts towards justice and finding out what really happened. Initially,
Speaker 5: suspicion fell on her family, and over the years, various
Speaker 5: suspects have come and gone without any definitive answers. If
Speaker 5: the woman identified by Carlson really is Maline, it could
Speaker 5: help solve the long standing question of her whereabouts, can
Speaker 5: possibly lead to those responsible for her disappearance. Beyond finding
Speaker 5: out what happened, there's the consideration of Maline's psychological well being.
Speaker 6: The other side of the minute.
Speaker 2: The money, Did you hear the cut I asked you
Speaker 2: to play? Could you play that cut? Sixteen? That's what
Speaker 2: I said in the talkback? Do you turn down the
Speaker 2: talk pack when I'm done talking? I guess so. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk to Martin in New York Martin. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the Other Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling.
Speaker 7: Hi, Hi, Hi Walter, Good morning sir.
Speaker 2: How are you man excited to talk to you as
Speaker 2: any girl would be.
Speaker 7: Well, anyway, yes, I'm thinking. I'm thinking that the gen
Speaker 7: Z is like too scared to talk to people who
Speaker 7: talk to their their peers. They're just scared to do it.
Speaker 7: Is too bad. It's a shame. And uh, you know,
Speaker 7: as far as uh COVID COVID, that was just inconvenience
Speaker 7: for me, Man, I had. I had to go in
Speaker 7: the store. I had to wear a mask. That's all
Speaker 7: it meant to me. I had to go in the store,
Speaker 7: I had to put on a stupid mask. And I
Speaker 7: went house hunting and I found a house. During that time,
Speaker 7: well everybody else was listening to propaganda, sitting at home
Speaker 7: doing nothing, whatever they were doing, and uh, I was
Speaker 7: out looking for a house. I found a house. And uh,
Speaker 7: you know the problem today people listen to this propaganda
Speaker 7: day in day out, and they believe it. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Do you smoke cigarettes? Huh do you smoke cigarettes?
Speaker 7: Why what do you ask?
Speaker 2: Do you smoke cigarettes?
Speaker 7: Maybe I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you smoked cigarettes. Why why did you start?
Speaker 7: Why did I start? I don't remember why I started,
Speaker 7: but I don't want to stop.
Speaker 2: That's because you listened to the propaganda of the cigarette
Speaker 2: industry and your friends in high school. Right.
Speaker 7: I make my own cigarettes. I make them with a
Speaker 7: machine at top machine. I get the tobacco and the
Speaker 7: tubes and I make them myself.
Speaker 2: Terrifying. That's all terrifying, Martin. But thank you for thank
Speaker 2: you for sharing your hobby with us. Thanks for calling
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eight four eight nine two to two
Speaker 2: two with Jay. You're on the other side of midnight?
Speaker 2: Which side are you on? Jay? Which side are you on?
Speaker 2: Which side of min.
Speaker 8: Are you on the coolest side of midnight?
Speaker 2: And who decided that?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: Why do you think you're on the coolest side of Why?
Speaker 2: Why do you think so?
Speaker 8: Because I want to be cool?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 2: Where in the Poconos are you?
Speaker 8: I am about five miles from Pocono Raceway.
Speaker 2: The loudest noise on a Sunday. Yeah, one of the
Speaker 2: things when they were excited about Pocono Raceway going in
Speaker 2: there about seventy years ago, they didn't remember the noise.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's it's tolerable. I can hear it from
Speaker 8: my house.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you have to report?
Speaker 9: Jay?
Speaker 2: What do you have to report?
Speaker 8: So Dave Scott keeps palling a glycer feet and it's glycosie.
Speaker 2: Oh thank god you called in with that. Do you
Speaker 2: have anything else?
Speaker 7: Does?
Speaker 2: Do you have anything else to report?
Speaker 8: So that's what's that's the main ingredient in roundup. And
Speaker 8: it's it's a non specific herbicite. So whatever you sprayed
Speaker 8: on dies and then it would dry up and become tender.
Speaker 2: But wait, but wait, that's the main ingredient in round up,
Speaker 2: the billion dollar lawsuit round up. Yeah, that's the main ingredient. Therefore,
Speaker 2: the symptoms Parkinson's that round up caused. It's not alleged
Speaker 2: it caused they lost that lawsuit. That's what's in the
Speaker 2: fire forest fire smoke.
Speaker 3: Could be. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I do know that it's a it's a billions of
Speaker 8: dollar industry for Canada is timber wood products. So I
Speaker 8: don't know why they would be negligent on getting these
Speaker 8: fires out. It's for protecting lively, its jobs and money
Speaker 8: for the for the country.
Speaker 2: All right. I have a suggestion as to why they
Speaker 2: would would you like to hear it?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Those forests in Canada are predominantly privately owned. Those are crops,
Speaker 2: and they're owned by a handful of incredibly rich guys,
Speaker 2: families that have owned them for centuries and are owned
Speaker 2: by very eccentric CEOs. And it may well be a
Speaker 2: competitive act.
Speaker 1: It may be.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're in competition with that forest. Let's burn
Speaker 2: that forest down.
Speaker 8: Yeh.
Speaker 3: That's sickening.
Speaker 2: It is sickening. And I'm not saying it's a fact,
Speaker 2: it's a radio fact. It's just an amazing possibility, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Yep, thanks, When you talk about it, like a forest
Speaker 8: fire we had in our neighborhood. There's maybe forty houses
Speaker 8: and we all have wooded lots, and there's like a
Speaker 8: strip of forest that runs on either end of the development.
Speaker 8: And we had a brush fire a few years ago,
Speaker 8: and that brush fire was going in every direction. When
Speaker 8: the first fire truck came deep, he was too big
Speaker 8: of a truck to get close enough to the fire.
Speaker 8: And I helped the guy. You know, we got rakes
Speaker 8: and started putting out the fire, but it was going
Speaker 8: in every direction and old tree stumps, rotten, old tree
Speaker 8: stumps were catching on fire just from.
Speaker 3: The leaf litter.
Speaker 8: And you know we had it going unchecked, it would
Speaker 8: have streams would have eventually called on fire.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I appreciate the call, Thanks very much, Jay william
Speaker 2: Let's play cut thirteen and then cut fourteen, thirteen, then fourteen.
Speaker 2: It's tight as a drum. Let me tell you what
Speaker 2: I can't hear. You have to talk into the talkback.
Speaker 2: You have to make it louder.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's great. Let's go to the street and let's visit
Speaker 2: our friends who just graduated from college. These are recent
Speaker 2: college grads. We've asked them for some man on the
Speaker 2: street questions to get a senses to what they've learned
Speaker 2: in college, what their degree is worth.
Speaker 1: What species are we? I really don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: I don't even know that word. What species are we homosexuals?
Speaker 1: Name one continent, continent? It's got to be I feel like,
Speaker 1: tell us how you feel like.
Speaker 2: The North Pool?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: A continent is a.
Speaker 10: Place, A continent is a place. This podcast studio is
Speaker 10: a place. Is this a continent?
Speaker 9: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Just name name one of the continents. I don't know
Speaker 1: what name? How about this name one. Oh, the United
Speaker 1: Kingdom is that one? Is that a continent?
Speaker 10: How many states are in the United States of America?
Speaker 1: I don't know, like fifty sixty something fifty sixty. Name
Speaker 1: two countries in Europe, Russia and Bolivia, Germany and Iraq, Iraq. Okay,
Speaker 1: just one more, just for fun. Arabian people, Arabian.
Speaker 10: People, Arabian people, Right, that's not even a country. How
Speaker 10: many planets are in our solar system?
Speaker 2: We'll say like five.
Speaker 1: I think there's about like seven or six planets. What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 11: Nine?
Speaker 1: American Radio.
Speaker 11: There was a light bulb hovering maybe about two stories high.
Speaker 11: We were amazed. I mean, we've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 11: It was glowing.
Speaker 12: And then as it rose, it fired these rods of light.
Speaker 12: Everyone was focused on this thing, but for some reason,
Speaker 12: my brothers tend.
Speaker 1: To look to the right.
Speaker 12: My brother saw this orange orb and it seemed to
Speaker 12: have this roll to it, almost like it like something
Speaker 12: like an ocean wave, is the way he describes it.
Speaker 12: Kind of like the inside of this thing was moving
Speaker 12: and turning.
Speaker 11: As we're rolling along, the atmosphere got really close. Everything
Speaker 11: was dead quiet.
Speaker 12: We felt like we were underwater. We could feel like
Speaker 12: a pressure change. So my mother she pulled off to
Speaker 12: the side of the road.
Speaker 6: Windows were open.
Speaker 12: It was about ninety degrees that night. We all started
Speaker 12: looking at the side of the car Raandma's looking out.
Speaker 12: Everyone's looking at you know, where is this white sphere
Speaker 12: that we saw moments ago?
Speaker 1: And then soon then bang, you know, my.
Speaker 12: Mother notices this thing first in the sky and she's like,
Speaker 12: my god, what is that?
Speaker 11: There was a disc shape object hovering there.
Speaker 13: There's a really famous mystery called the d'atlav Pass, and
Speaker 13: it's about these nine really experienced hikers in the fifties
Speaker 13: who are going for what's called their Level three mountaineering tests,
Speaker 13: and you're effectively timed. You have to start on a
Speaker 13: particular day and time, and they have people set up
Speaker 13: along the way the schedule checkpoints, if you will, and
Speaker 13: so they brought cameras with them. They set off on
Speaker 13: this journey and they reached the first checkpoint, but they
Speaker 13: didn't make it to a second checkpoint, and there was
Speaker 13: a protocol where if they missed a checkpoint, there's this
Speaker 13: big search that goes out to make sure they're okay.
Speaker 1: The army gets involved and.
Speaker 13: They go and follow the route to find the hikers,
Speaker 13: and they come across these prints in the snow that
Speaker 13: led down the mountain, and some of the prints were
Speaker 13: bare feet, some had one shoe and one barefoot, and
Speaker 13: it's all nine at the hikers. And they find three
Speaker 13: of the hikers and they're all deceased. And there's one
Speaker 13: who's naked. There's one who was draped over one of
Speaker 13: the branches up in one of the trees, and there's
Speaker 13: these deep gougees on the tree, as if some animal
Speaker 13: had been scratching at this tree. There's more footprints that
Speaker 13: lead away from those three, and the footprints lead where
Speaker 13: the other six hikers were.
Speaker 1: And they're all deceased as well.
Speaker 13: And the women were wearing men's clothing and vice versa.
Speaker 13: Some of their clothes had trace levels of radiation, and
Speaker 13: some of them had parts of their face removed. It
Speaker 13: looked like lips, snow's ears that almost looked like surgical
Speaker 13: precision removal. There was a person in there who their
Speaker 13: chest had basically been caved in, and it was deduced
Speaker 13: that the impact it would have taken would have been
Speaker 13: equivalent to a speeding car smashing into at full speed.
Speaker 13: But there's no sign of anything that could have done
Speaker 13: this damage. And suddenly the Soviet government says, up, We're
Speaker 13: going to shut this investigation down. All we know is
Speaker 13: that the nine hikers who died died from an unknown,
Speaker 13: unnatural force sealed.
Speaker 2: The Soviet government is much better at containing secrets then
Speaker 2: we will ever be. There's a Apple series, Apple TV
Speaker 2: series that's available right now. I don't binge watch, but
Speaker 2: I started to watch one episode of this and then
Speaker 2: I had to watch the next one and the next one.
Speaker 2: And it's called Star City. And I watched all eight
Speaker 2: episodes in one sitting because I couldn't get up. And
Speaker 2: the story is so compelling. There is no star in
Speaker 2: Star City. There's no celebrity you've heard of before in
Speaker 2: Star City. That's how powerful the story is. And the
Speaker 2: story is an alternative history. Here's the alternative history that
Speaker 2: Russia got to the Moon first. And Star City is
Speaker 2: their Cape Canaveral, It's their Cape Kennedy. It's where all
Speaker 2: the scientists, all the workers work together creating what goes
Speaker 2: on the Moon into the planets, and just like us,
Speaker 2: it's way into the woods where they actually launch anything,
Speaker 2: but the community of scientists that put it together is
Speaker 2: they're located in Star City. That is in fact a
Speaker 2: fact star City, and I was always very jealous of that.
Speaker 2: When I heard about Star City, I went, that's a
Speaker 2: much cooler name than Cape Canarol. Why don't we have
Speaker 2: that name. The story it isn't about the Russians getting
Speaker 2: to the moon first. It's the story about the Russians
Speaker 2: getting to the moon first and everything that happened in
Speaker 2: Russia after that, what happened in Russia after they got
Speaker 2: to the moon first, And what we learn is how
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union worked. It's the best social studies film
Speaker 2: I've ever seen about how did the security work in
Speaker 2: Russia and how does it still work potentially. But when
Speaker 2: it was the Soviet Union, you did not want to
Speaker 2: live there. Whenever we go back to Lee Harvey Oswald,
Speaker 2: why the hell did he go live in the Soviet Union?
Speaker 2: It be easy from the perspective of today to think, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it's just has really bad weather, but it's not such
Speaker 2: a bad place to live. It's a lot like us
Speaker 2: in many ways. Blah blah blah blah. Well, it wasn't
Speaker 2: then in the nineteen sixties to live in to leave
Speaker 2: America and go live in the Soviet Union would be
Speaker 2: like leaving America today and going to live in North Korea.
Speaker 2: Would anybody consider that? No, nobody would consider going to
Speaker 2: live there now at all. And you and I are
Speaker 2: on the air in Chicago on WGN Lenny in Westchester,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the other side of midnight.
Speaker 14: Hello Lenny, Well, so you have the best show who
Speaker 14: talk radio period.
Speaker 2: Lenny, very nice man, very nice.
Speaker 14: Before I get to Rush, I just want to say
Speaker 14: some to people, because you've got a small audience. Doctor
Speaker 14: Francis Collins, doctor Deborah Birch, and doctor Rochelle we Linskey.
Speaker 14: And communist China is sending the virus to America in
Speaker 14: December and January of twenty twenty is never mentioned. They
Speaker 14: just go after the ki b lorel. Now get it
Speaker 14: to China and running Russia. First of all, people should
Speaker 14: know that we bailed Russia out. They couldn't even feed themselves.
Speaker 14: We had to send thousands and tons of wheek there
Speaker 14: in the nineteen seventies. We gave them out a computer
Speaker 14: technology and we bailed them out. Well, they would just
Speaker 14: be I don't know what they would be. They would
Speaker 14: just be a poor country an the third World. Poor country,
Speaker 14: and the same thing with China. We brought China into
Speaker 14: the world. They blamed Mixon, but really it was Clinton
Speaker 14: who gave China the most most fated trading status, and
Speaker 14: he pushed them into the World Trade Organization, which turned
Speaker 14: China into a superpower economically. And plus all our companies
Speaker 14: self comfortable going there after that happened. They don't have
Speaker 14: to worry about laws and regulations and pollution controls. You know,
Speaker 14: it's just the wild west of everything. So these countries
Speaker 14: really whatn't even exist if it wasn't for us. But
Speaker 14: I would like to say that Russia is a country,
Speaker 14: is a weird country. They like, they don't care. It's
Speaker 14: like a million of their eighteen year old guys die
Speaker 14: on the battlefield or get wounded. They like looking at
Speaker 14: our military technology and they get to take a good
Speaker 14: look at it. With Ukraine getting all of that stuff there,
Speaker 14: they brought the North Koreans to help them in the
Speaker 14: Ukraine ward. They now have Africans fighting for them in
Speaker 14: there too. So it's just it's crazy when you think
Speaker 14: about it. But these countries really done nothing without us.
Speaker 14: And you know, getting back to the COVID and everything,
Speaker 14: people say like it was a bad chess cold and
Speaker 14: then the same people say they killed. You know, the
Speaker 14: key killed millions of people. You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 14: It has to be one of the other. They start,
Speaker 14: you know what is these people who keep repeating the
Speaker 14: key buel staying, they start to sound like the nine
Speaker 14: to eleven.
Speaker 15: Inside job. That's exactly who they sound like. Now you know,
Speaker 15: fout she could not have done this by himself.
Speaker 11: She left.
Speaker 15: There's no way he does. The vaccine itself was old Trump.
Speaker 15: They don't even say it operation warp speed. And these
Speaker 15: people say, oh, I took the vaccination. Well, you know
Speaker 15: there was three of them. Which one did you take?
Speaker 15: It would be interesting to know too.
Speaker 2: Minerval, the minerval one. I took the minerval one. Lenny,
Speaker 2: This is a lot of information. I don't know if
Speaker 2: my data brain can take this, Lenny. The only question
Speaker 2: I have for you that you didn't covers who What
Speaker 2: do you think happened to that little girl on the
Speaker 2: cruise ship with her parents? How did she disappear? What
Speaker 2: was that about? You know?
Speaker 14: But it's odd bullish when you hear on a cruise ship.
Speaker 14: I mean, if she doesn't get off with them, and
Speaker 14: they don't they do a full search of the ship. Right,
Speaker 14: somebody could have kidnapped them of a passenger who was
Speaker 14: on vacation.
Speaker 3: It could have been an inside job.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's weird, Lenny, thanks for the call.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the weirdest thing about that case is
Speaker 2: that the parents left. If my kid was kidnapped in
Speaker 2: a foreign country, I think it was Portugal. My kid
Speaker 2: was kidnapped in a foreign country, I'd still be living
Speaker 2: in that country. I would not leave that country until
Speaker 2: I found out what happened to my child. They left
Speaker 2: after a couple days. And the thing that the mother
Speaker 2: apparently said right before that kid disappeared or right after, no,
Speaker 2: right after they found out the kid had disappeared, they said,
Speaker 2: oh they got her. What, Oh they got her. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe the father was a creep, Maybe he owed the
Speaker 2: mob money. That's never been explored. What we know is
Speaker 2: that she said they got her. There was somebody after
Speaker 2: that family. There was something that that family hadn't done
Speaker 2: or did do, or the worst case scenario, which I
Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't dismiss I would have dismissed at the time.
Speaker 2: But now that we know about Jeffrey Epstein's operas. They
Speaker 2: may have sold that child. She was prime pedophile meat,
Speaker 2: little blonde thing, prime meat. And for whatever psycho reason,
Speaker 2: they may not have wanted that child. And I bet
Speaker 2: they were told thousands of things about the kid'll be safe,
Speaker 2: she'll be fine, she won't even know Da da da.
Speaker 2: You don't know what lies they were told. Mike and
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Welcome to the other side of midnight. Which
Speaker 2: side are you on, Saint Louis, Missouri? That's the side
Speaker 2: of midnight that you're on. Congratulations, What do you have
Speaker 2: to report?
Speaker 9: Okay, you mentioned a while ago they've never found a dinosaur. Well,
Speaker 9: it seems me. I would estimate about thirty years ago,
Speaker 9: me and my wife were on vacation and on our
Speaker 9: way out of Oregon into Utah, there was a town
Speaker 9: named Dinosaur, Utah, and they had a a huge dinosaur.
Speaker 9: I would say it was probably as big as my house.
Speaker 9: It's like I said, it's thirty years ago, but it
Speaker 9: was huge, and it had the whole dinosaur bones embedded
Speaker 9: in the side of this mountain. They had built a
Speaker 9: some sort of a building over it and made a
Speaker 9: museum out of it. They even let us go up
Speaker 9: and touch the bones.
Speaker 2: They did let you go up and touch the bones.
Speaker 9: Yes, And I have never heard of that since now
Speaker 9: I had looked it up on the map, and there
Speaker 9: is a town dinosaur Utah.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well, well thanks for the call, Mike.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I don't think they've ever found
Speaker 2: a complete dinosaur skeleton, nor have they ever said this
Speaker 2: could not have been a dragon? Easy to conf It
Speaker 2: would seem to me easy to confuse the dragon with
Speaker 2: a dinosaur. And there's a lot of cultural and religious
Speaker 2: symbolism attached to dragons, the fire breathing dragon. There may
Speaker 2: be reasons the scientific community does not want to go there.
Speaker 2: The scientific community, I believe, made up an animal and
Speaker 2: called it a dinosaur that do not breathe fire. And
Speaker 2: they also keep talking about them being herbiforbes, herbo forbes.
Speaker 2: How the hell did they know if they're herbifore? How
Speaker 2: the hell did they know if dinosaurs are vegetarians so
Speaker 2: that we view them more kindly than if they would
Speaker 2: eat our dog on site, or if they'd eat us
Speaker 2: on site. And the timeline has always puzzled me. What
Speaker 2: you're telling me? Two hundred and fifty million years ago.
Speaker 2: Those things existed. I think they've existed till very recently.
Speaker 2: And Michelle Gibson, Michelle Gibson one of our frequent guests
Speaker 2: who's a real scientist, a real researcher. She believes very
Speaker 2: much that our timeline has been screwed up, that centuries
Speaker 2: have been added to our history in order to make
Speaker 2: things further away than they were. She says the Holy
Speaker 2: Roman Empire ended around the time of the American Revolution.
Speaker 2: That's what she says. She says that empire ended around Now.
Speaker 2: This is not a kook like me. This is a
Speaker 2: woman who's done her homework, has researched her life, has
Speaker 2: researched science, and she believes that the mystery is our
Speaker 2: calendar is a total lie. That's right, our calendar is
Speaker 2: a lie. And for many reasons, the Holy Roman Empire
Speaker 2: continued until seventeen fifty. Let's just think about that and
Speaker 2: the other thing that she believes that I totally makes sense.
Speaker 2: When you were a kid and you saw really old
Speaker 2: buildings and it said it didn't say erected by, it
Speaker 2: didn't say built by, it said founded by. What do
Speaker 2: you mean founded by?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: Do you mean it was founded by She says, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what it means. They found those buildings, the train stations,
Speaker 2: the library, they found those buildings. I'll tell you a
Speaker 2: great mystery about the Carnegie libraries. All over all over
Speaker 2: the country right now, as you know, there are Carnegie libraries.
Speaker 2: Andrew Carnegie spent most of his fortune building public libraries
Speaker 2: throughout America. What's fascinating about the Carnegie libraries is he
Speaker 2: decided what the books should be. He was very interested
Speaker 2: in us having very pragmatic practical books. There weren't a
Speaker 2: lot of philosophy books in there. But there was one
Speaker 2: other condition that every place he built a library. Listen
Speaker 2: to this, every place he built a library, there's a room.
Speaker 2: There's a big room in the basement, and it's locked.
Speaker 2: None of them are open. It exists in every Carnegie library.
Speaker 2: There's a significant room in the basement that's not unlocked
Speaker 2: and it's not used. But it was mandatory for the
Speaker 2: construction of that library. It was mandatory for him to
Speaker 2: give that city a library that that was in the plans.
Speaker 2: They had to build this room and it's under lock
Speaker 2: and key to this day. Amazing. Here's my phone number
Speaker 2: we can talk. I'm right about the dragons. Eight hundred
Speaker 2: eight four eight nine two to two eight hundred eight
Speaker 2: four eight nine two to two two. Let's see what
Speaker 2: shall we? What shall we?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: Look at that, hey bill? Play Please play cut four,
Speaker 2: and then please play cut six, cut four and cut
Speaker 2: six whenever you're ready, sir, cut four and cut six,
Speaker 2: and you and I.
Speaker 6: Stal great time to be a movie fan right now.
Speaker 6: If you went to the theater this weekend, you took
Speaker 6: part in the biggest domestic box office weekend of all time.
Speaker 6: A big part of that obviously Spider Man brand New Day.
Speaker 6: We're going to talk about the records that it was
Speaker 6: able to break, but also the Odyssey still selling out
Speaker 6: IMAX screens. I went at six in the morning on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Even that screening almost sold out. These Spider Man numbers
Speaker 6: are crazy. It took over all of the large formats
Speaker 6: other than Imax this weekend, rpx X, D, Dolby. Everything
Speaker 6: was Spider Man. And so the Odyssey still making fifty
Speaker 6: one million dollars domestically closing in on one billion, will
Speaker 6: surpass that may become the number one R rated movie
Speaker 6: of all time. It's a smashing success. But Spider Man
Speaker 6: is two million dollars away from becoming the biggest opening
Speaker 6: weekend domestically of all time, and we'll stick it second
Speaker 6: worldwide almost two a billion dollars. Soyventers in Game made
Speaker 6: one point two billion dollars opening weekend worldwide, right, Spider
Speaker 6: Man made nine hundred and twenty seven so still very
Speaker 6: close to a billion. Now domestically, this is where I
Speaker 6: want to focus. We're two million away three hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty five million dollars opening weekend, three hundred and fifty
Speaker 6: seven million dollars Avengers in Game made. Now, these are estimates, right,
Speaker 6: so that number could still increase. If it gets that
Speaker 6: three million dollar increase, Spider Man Brand New Day is
Speaker 6: the biggest movie ever opening weekend, and so can we do?
Speaker 6: Can we go back to the theater one more time?
Speaker 6: You're asking me estimates usually low ball a bit. I
Speaker 6: think it gets there. I believe it becomes the number
Speaker 6: one domestic opening of all time. Movies are breaking records
Speaker 6: right now. Mawana What Happened Man also this year is
Speaker 6: projected to be the best box office here of the decade,
Speaker 6: going from two billion in twenty twenty to nine point
Speaker 6: nine billion, very close to that eleven point three billion
Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen. So our movies back is the box
Speaker 6: office back? It sure looks like it, But again, a
Speaker 6: big part of that is Spider Man, and I don't
Speaker 6: blame people for going.
Speaker 4: Portuguese police have told BBC Panorama they have apologized to
Speaker 4: the parents of Madeline McCann for the way they handle
Speaker 4: the case. Madeline went missing during a family holiday in
Speaker 4: Portugal in two thousand and seven. The parents were initially
Speaker 4: questioned as suspects.
Speaker 5: After seventeen long years, Madeline McCann has finally been found,
Speaker 5: shocking the world once again. Her disappearance in two thousand
Speaker 5: and seven from a vacation home in Portugal left everyone
Speaker 5: wondering if the truth would ever come to light. Over
Speaker 5: the years, her case became one of the most famous
Speaker 5: unsolved disappearances, with countless investigations but no solid answers what
Speaker 5: really happened After all these years, We will uncover the
Speaker 5: hidden quarters of the case that nobody wants you to
Speaker 5: know about. Carlson's big reveal on Maline. Carlson's recent revelation
Speaker 5: suggests there might be a woman who closely resembles the
Speaker 5: age progressed images of Maline, which has reignited interest and
Speaker 5: hope around the case. This new development could potentially bring
Speaker 5: an end to years of waiting and wondering. For her family,
Speaker 5: The thought of finally finding Maline alive brings a mix
Speaker 5: of emotions, from relief to an overwhelming sense of anticipation.
Speaker 5: The impact of such a discovery would be huge, not
Speaker 5: just for her family, but for everyone who has followed
Speaker 5: her story over the years. It challenges the sorrow in
Speaker 5: despair that have clouded this case, offering a glimmer of
Speaker 5: hope that she might still be found. Before we dive
Speaker 5: into this revelation, it's clear that what's been uncovered could
Speaker 5: be far more shocking than anyone ever imagined, and this
Speaker 5: might not be the only surprise waiting to be revealed.
Speaker 5: If this woman really is Maline, questions about how she
Speaker 5: lived unnoticed for so many years begin to surface. Was
Speaker 5: she taken and hidden away? Has she been living a
Speaker 5: life under a different identity, unaware of her real past.
Speaker 5: Each possibility opens up a range of scenarios, each filled
Speaker 5: with its own set of dramatic implications. The media frenzy
Speaker 5: following Carlson's announcement has put Maline's story back in the spotlight.
Speaker 5: The involvement of public figures and celebrities over the years
Speaker 5: has kept her case in the public eye, but this
Speaker 5: new potential breakthrough could be what finally helps crack it open.
Speaker 5: Now with the possibility of her being found, the conversation
Speaker 5: shifts towards justice and finding out what really happened. Initially,
Speaker 5: suspicion fell on her family, and over the years, various
Speaker 5: suspects have come and gone without any definitive answers. If
Speaker 5: the woman identified by Carlson really is Maline, it could
Speaker 5: help solve the long standing question of her whereabouts and
Speaker 5: possibly lead to those responsible for her disappearance. Beyond finding
Speaker 5: out what happened, there's the consideration of Maline's psychological well being.
Speaker 2: Vic Ferrari is a retired New York City Police detective
Speaker 2: and I asked Vic question today. I said, Vic, what's
Speaker 2: the most mysterious case that you did not solve that
Speaker 2: haunts you? And Vic ferraris going to share that answer
Speaker 2: with us coming up in just second on the other
Speaker 2: side of Midnight.
Speaker 1: It's the other side of Midnight.
Speaker 16: Confessions of a retired NYPD detective starring Big Ferrari.
Speaker 6: On the Other Side of Midnight. It's the Other Side
Speaker 6: of Midnight Confessions of a Retired NYPD Detective starting Ferrari.
Speaker 1: On the Other Side of Midnight.
Speaker 16: Hey Walter on tonight's episode of Confessions of a Retired Detective.
Speaker 16: I'd like to talk a little bit about a case
Speaker 16: that I had that haunts me to this day. Around
Speaker 16: two thousand and four, I got a telephone call from
Speaker 16: a Manhattan District attorney who asked me to do him
Speaker 16: a favor. And we had gone back and forth, me
Speaker 16: doing him a favor of him doing me a favor,
Speaker 16: and he said, listen, I got a murder suspect I'm
Speaker 16: looking for and I want to see if you can
Speaker 16: help me find him. And I says, well, don't you
Speaker 16: have Manhattan NORTHUS South homicide looking He goes, yeah, he goes,
Speaker 16: but the more people looking for this guy, the better.
Speaker 8: I go.
Speaker 16: What's his story? He goes, Well, the FBI is sneaking
Speaker 16: around with this, like, so, what do you need me for?
Speaker 16: He goes, because if the FBI finds him before I do,
Speaker 16: they're going to steal the case from me. Basically, there
Speaker 16: was a crew of guys out in Long Island, and
Speaker 16: they were robin banks and armored cars. They were in everything,
Speaker 16: selling steroids, you name it. These guys who were into
Speaker 16: it in Long Island, so much so that John Gotti
Speaker 16: Junior actually sent an emissary to shake them down. Anyway,
Speaker 16: during one of these armored car heights, one of the
Speaker 16: guys got trigger happy and killed an armed courier. Well
Speaker 16: that's bad for business because whenever you're getting involved with
Speaker 16: into state trucking or bank robberies, that brings in the FEDS.
Speaker 16: So the leader of this gang, a guy by the
Speaker 16: name of Christian Tarantino, he kills one of the guys
Speaker 16: and his crew, a guy by the name of Louis Drvil.
Speaker 16: He takes his problems are over when another guy by
Speaker 16: the name of Vincent Gardjulo, who actually is d Snyder
Speaker 16: from Twist and Sisters brother in law, tries to blackmail him, saying,
Speaker 16: and I know what you did, and if you don't
Speaker 16: give me some money, I'm going to retch out for
Speaker 16: the murder and the bank heist.
Speaker 6: He says, no problem.
Speaker 16: Well, this guy tarantine was no one to be messed
Speaker 16: around with, and he owned a bunch of gyms and
Speaker 16: he convinced this kid by the name of Justin Bressman
Speaker 16: to kill Vincent Gardjulo. So one morning, as Vincent Gardjulo
Speaker 16: went to his construction job in the Lower West Side
Speaker 16: of Manhattan, Justin Bressman, who was supposedly going to be
Speaker 16: paid thirty something thousand dollars, walks up to him first
Speaker 16: thing in the morning and shoots him twice in the
Speaker 16: face with a silence or a quipped pistol and kills
Speaker 16: Vincent Guardjulo. Well, when I got the phone call from
Speaker 16: the District Attorney, he tells me, Justin Bresman, the guy
Speaker 16: who's wanted for the murderer of Vincent Gardulo, is missing
Speaker 16: and his father's telling anyone who will listen he was missing.
Speaker 16: So I find out that his car turned up burned
Speaker 16: in Brooklyn, but his credit cards, banking phone calls, everything
Speaker 16: stops a couple of days after that car turns up burnt.
Speaker 16: So I tell the Manhattan District Attorney, I said, listen,
Speaker 16: this guy actually is either he pulled the ultimate Houdini
Speaker 16: or he's dead. So the DA thank me for my time,
Speaker 16: and I says, I got cases piling up.
Speaker 6: He goes, no problem.
Speaker 16: I retire he retires, I forget about the case. A
Speaker 16: couple of years ago, I google it and I find
Speaker 16: out that Christian Tarantino wound up getting life in jail
Speaker 16: for the bank robbery, a couple of murders, and conspiracy
Speaker 16: to have Justin Brestman killed. But they couldn't get him
Speaker 16: on the murder charge because they never found the body.
Speaker 16: What happened to Justin Bressman to this day, I never know,
Speaker 16: and Christian Tarantino, who's serving life in jail, sure ain't talking.
Speaker 6: For more behind the scenes NYPD.
Speaker 16: Stories, be sure to pick up my new book, NYPD
Speaker 16: Behind the Blue Wall of Silence, available on Amazon. I'm
Speaker 16: retired Detective turned off the Vic Ferrari with Walter Sterling
Speaker 16: on the other side of Midnight