Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five fifty six of five and done.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, June twenty second. I'm your host, Jeffrey
Speaker 1: pattern Ostrow, joined unusually by Patrick Dubuque and Colin whit
Speaker 1: Church of the Action Network. Craig is, of course on vacation,
Speaker 1: enjoying whatever he's doing on vacation.
Speaker 2: With two days feel bad. I realized I have no
Speaker 2: idea where he is.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. It's fine, I mentioned I don't
Speaker 1: think he wants us to know. Yeah there, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: assume he's not going to listen to this, so we'll
Speaker 1: probably say we can say whatever we want about Craig.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, So usually, con as you know, since
Speaker 2: you were a regular listener, we start with banter. But
Speaker 2: instead I'm going to just ask you a question that
Speaker 2: we did not talk about ahead of time. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play on the spot. What is, in your opinion, the
Speaker 2: worst take that you have ever heard on this show?
Speaker 3: The worst take?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst take. Oh, it can be about baseball.
Speaker 2: It can be you know, pre baseball banter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mind immediately went to some of the movie takes,
Speaker 3: and my my brain. The one contribution I'll bring to
Speaker 3: the show that similar to Craig is that my brain
Speaker 3: is broken. So remembering any of these takes.
Speaker 1: I think the most famous bad take is Craig not
Speaker 1: liking soup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a bad take. A I messaged Craig
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago to make fun of Jeffrey because
Speaker 3: he said, you guys were talking about the White Sox
Speaker 3: and he said, oh, they they fired all their bullets
Speaker 3: and then started listing off the prospects that they're going
Speaker 3: to call out pretty soon. And so I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's necessarily a bad take, but that's just the
Speaker 3: first thing that came to my mind, not that he
Speaker 3: was necessarily wrong. It just was a funny confluence of
Speaker 3: events there where he said, oh, they pretty much fired
Speaker 3: all their bullets. Well, Bradon Montgomery and Hagen Smith, but
Speaker 3: you know, so no, unfortunately, don't have a good answer.
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll pop up to me in an hour from
Speaker 3: now in the middle of the show and I'll just
Speaker 3: interrupt you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just be like, hold on, hold on, hold on, Yes,
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty four, you were wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually didn't even I was never a big
Speaker 3: podcast listener until maybe a little more than a year ago,
Speaker 3: I started going to the gym regularly and music doesn't
Speaker 3: do it for me. I'm not a big guy, so
Speaker 3: I needed podcasts, and I would listen to It's I'm
Speaker 3: I'm also extremely picky about my podcast, so take that
Speaker 3: as a compliment if you want that. I listened to
Speaker 3: this one, and I would listen to the No Longer
Speaker 3: with us Athletic podcast that Sam Miller was on with
Speaker 3: Andy and Grant, and those were my only two baseball podcasts.
Speaker 3: So I was thinking this week about how being on
Speaker 3: this podcast is actually a detriment to me because I'm
Speaker 3: going to go to the gym tomorrow and have to
Speaker 3: hear your I either listened to this and I already
Speaker 3: know everything you guys are gonna say, or I gotta
Speaker 3: find another podcast.
Speaker 2: As long as you make it good, you can live
Speaker 2: the high.
Speaker 3: It'll depend on how I do in the game at
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 1: Well, we got a show to get to before that,
Speaker 1: and we'll start. Since I mean, I was gonna do
Speaker 1: this anyway, but it's convenient since Colin is on our
Speaker 1: first topic, central planning, there's gonna be a theme running
Speaker 1: for the first two segments, and that does anyone want
Speaker 1: to win the AL Central. No, the White Sox have
Speaker 1: run into the Yankees and Tigers. I get. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Tigers are good. Obviously they lost to
Speaker 1: a three to the Yankees, which fine. They lost to
Speaker 1: or three to the Tigers, which again I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Tigers are good.
Speaker 3: No, they were swept by the Tigers.
Speaker 1: They were swept by the Tigers. They yeah, yes, that
Speaker 1: puts somewhat. Now I have games or four games over
Speaker 1: five hundred two.
Speaker 3: They're just two.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're just two? Are they still in the lead
Speaker 1: in the ale Central?
Speaker 3: Now the Garden amount of losses as the Guardians. But
Speaker 3: the Guardians to play two more games than that.
Speaker 1: Right, fair enough? So you see, I put together this
Speaker 1: agenda without looking at the they have.
Speaker 3: They have. The White Sox currently have the best run
Speaker 3: defferential in the ALE Central at minus four.
Speaker 1: You're already sitting in well for Craig.
Speaker 2: I know I was gonna bring it up if you didn't.
Speaker 3: But yes, it is very it is very typical. I
Speaker 3: mean White Sox fans for weeks we're talking about this Gaunt,
Speaker 3: this June Gauntlet, Phillies, Braves, Dodgers, Yankees. Of course they
Speaker 3: won both of their games against the Braves. The third
Speaker 3: one got rained out. They won two of three from
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. They lost two of three to the Phillies
Speaker 3: and then ended by losing two of three to the
Speaker 3: Yankees and then promptly got swept by the Tigers. And
Speaker 3: now they've got Cleveland coming up. But they do have
Speaker 3: Kyle tielback today.
Speaker 1: Oh, very exciting. They kept them from the whatever weird
Speaker 1: leg exercises he was doing.
Speaker 3: Yes, hopefully he was hitting extremely well in his rehab.
Speaker 3: For whatever that's worth. Catcher has been a black hole
Speaker 3: for the entire season. They sent Edgar Carro down instead
Speaker 3: of Drew Romo, which is predictable but also notable because
Speaker 3: of the respect.
Speaker 1: So I will point out Collins gave me shit about
Speaker 1: Brady Montgomery, who has like a six hundred ops.
Speaker 3: Hey, well I was. I was when he was still
Speaker 3: in Triple A. But yeah, I was talking about this
Speaker 3: on our Action Network podcast this morning with my co
Speaker 3: host Sean Zarrillo about the Tigers. I don't know, we
Speaker 3: jump around this division or whatever, but like everyone assumes
Speaker 3: the Tigers are going to sell, They're going to trade Schooble,
Speaker 3: They probably are going to trade Schooble. I don't think
Speaker 3: they should. I think that this team is going to
Speaker 3: get healthier.
Speaker 1: And far out of like I get that that far
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 3: I mean when you think about thirteen games back in
Speaker 3: the end of August, seven games back and it's June,
Speaker 3: and the question that I have, the thing that I
Speaker 3: can't figure out, and Jeffrey, maybe you can answer this.
Speaker 3: They claimed James Outman on waivers. They called him Trey
Speaker 3: Cruz the other.
Speaker 1: Day, they sure did.
Speaker 3: Where the hell is Max Clark? Why is it Max
Speaker 3: Clark up yet?
Speaker 1: I think Trey Cruse is literally the last Connecticut Tiger
Speaker 1: that will ever get called up, Oh wow, to the majors.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I saw him in twenty nineteen there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might even been earlier in macu he's like twenty six,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I don't know. Like I looked into
Speaker 1: Clark fairly early on for a ten pack, like I
Speaker 1: was doing like guys that might get called up soon,
Speaker 1: and it was Clark and Emmanuel Rodriguez. And Emmanuel Rodriguez
Speaker 1: predictably got hurt. But Clark like he's been fine, like
Speaker 1: he's given back a little bit of the not even
Speaker 1: the given back a little bit of the hard hit
Speaker 1: and more of the directionality of his like late twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five breakout, which is not unusual. But he still
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that would come up and be
Speaker 1: I don't know, like ajing Ish for them, probably like
Speaker 1: just the guy that's gonna hit like five percent better
Speaker 1: than theague average and play. He's probably a better defensive
Speaker 1: center fielder than you ing is. And they've had so
Speaker 1: many outfield issue. I mean, they've had a lot of
Speaker 1: injury issues up and down that roster, but like outfield
Speaker 1: specifically has been like he had to play like Riley
Speaker 1: Green and center. He's got to be better than Matt Erling,
Speaker 1: Rightnzi Perez right, I think Perez is hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. We talked about the last ye. I
Speaker 1: don't like, there's no your past. If you care about
Speaker 1: such thing as your past, Super two, there's probably no
Speaker 1: point in keeping him down for like a pp I picked.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get one from McGonagall anyway. This year he's
Speaker 1: gonna win Ale Rookie of the Year. And yeah, like
Speaker 1: they've got to decide. Obviously, Torres just got hurt again,
Speaker 1: has gone back on the aisle. They kind of got
Speaker 1: to decide like sooner rather than later, And like Scooble,
Speaker 1: I don't he hasn't been great in his first two
Speaker 1: starts back, but there's nothing that suggests it's anything other
Speaker 1: than he didn't pitch for a month and they rush
Speaker 1: him back off one rehab. So yeah, I guess they
Speaker 1: they could, like you can't really count them out, but
Speaker 1: there's so the problem is they're already seven games back,
Speaker 1: and they have the same problem as the White Sox
Speaker 1: and the Guardians, where they have like three good headers
Speaker 1: and two good pitchers.
Speaker 2: And the thing with the Tigers is that you know,
Speaker 2: they've been playing better for a while, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm constantly hearing about how they're playing better.
Speaker 2: They've been they've been better. There are a game that
Speaker 2: happened up up on the Royals. Yeah, they haven't actually moved.
Speaker 2: It's very weird. There's still eleven games under five hundred.
Speaker 2: It's we're halfway through the season almost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're five games out of a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Angels are seven games out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about the Twins, who are actually
Speaker 1: have actually played as well as Patrick thinks. The Tigers
Speaker 1: have played lately yea and are back to four games under.
Speaker 1: I think so they're right again. They have all of
Speaker 1: the same problems as all of these teams, but they do.
Speaker 1: They got Roy Lewis back from Triple A and he's
Speaker 1: kept hitting homers since he was called up basically, and
Speaker 1: then like they like Joe Ryan is quietly just having
Speaker 1: the Joe Ryan season. I know there were injury like
Speaker 1: injury concerns.
Speaker 2: It's really easy to be quiet in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It is, It's true, and like it's it's also the
Speaker 1: Twins also had did like the Yankees run it back thing,
Speaker 1: but with the Twins lineup and roster, which it is
Speaker 1: what it is. But like again, they have Buckston healthy,
Speaker 1: they have Lewis healthy. These might be temporary things. Lu
Speaker 1: Keishel has been hitting better lately.
Speaker 3: None of their none of their young pictures seem to
Speaker 3: have taken a step for They've got all these Zebbie
Speaker 3: Matthews and kind of free lip and like none of
Speaker 3: them are Andrew.
Speaker 1: Morris Clyp's been okay. But also like, uh, they had Kendrie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I remember if it's because Kendry Rojas not
Speaker 1: very annoying. Kendrick Rojas was up and not particularly good
Speaker 1: and then got hurt. Like they do. They have these guys,
Speaker 1: they can these like four starter types they can cycle through.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like we're maybe like a few
Speaker 1: weeks removed from Cody Clemens like clearly being their second
Speaker 1: best hitter, and now they've gotten enough other guys hot,
Speaker 1: he's like their fourth best hitter, which is an improvement,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: And well, yeah, it's weird. Like Matt Trueblood wrote a
Speaker 2: piece on the Twins for us for the site this morning,
Speaker 2: and one of the things he notes is that like
Speaker 2: essentially they shuffled the deck about a month ago. You know,
Speaker 2: they sent down Lewis, they sent down was it Laartin
Speaker 2: no Wallner they sent down Yeah, after being like basically
Speaker 2: the worst player baseball for the first month, and they
Speaker 2: just brought them all back. But then just like basically
Speaker 2: shuffled which positions they were playing. Yes, so Roy's Lewis
Speaker 2: is now playing first, Yeah, Cody Clemens is now like
Speaker 2: kind of playing right or left, and it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of worked defensively, like none of these guys have any
Speaker 2: business playing the positions they're playing. It's interesting like they
Speaker 2: this this Twins team could have just you know, shrugged
Speaker 2: right and say what you want about the pole Ads,
Speaker 2: but our newest pole ad at least like if there's
Speaker 2: one way you can channel the owner's idiotic to drive
Speaker 2: to win despite all reason, like this is the way
Speaker 2: you do it. He isn't actually like he's just forcing
Speaker 2: them to keep working. Yeah, you know you're gonna stay
Speaker 2: here until five. We're gonna try and figure something out.
Speaker 2: At least they're trying stuff.
Speaker 1: It's right, they don't really have anything to trade, Like
Speaker 1: Buxton keep saying he wants to be a Twin for life,
Speaker 1: so that kind of they probably will trade Joe Ryan.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it'll be at the deadline.
Speaker 1: And again they can they can make a run here.
Speaker 1: But like Todd Bradley has settled in as like the
Speaker 1: Fi like the fine version of it. He's still getting
Speaker 1: up too many home runs again, but like he's been fine,
Speaker 1: Bailey Ober has been exactly Bailey Ober. You know, pre
Speaker 1: Lip has probably pitched a little better than his era,
Speaker 1: but he kind of looks a lot like TODJ. Bradley
Speaker 1: as well, uh, they already dfates. I mean with Richardson,
Speaker 1: he's back in Toronto. Like again, Zebbie Matthews keeps throwing
Speaker 1: harder and keeps not pitching well, like Mickabel has been hurt,
Speaker 1: but he just.
Speaker 3: Had a step back too.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's it's also how much you want
Speaker 1: to kind of Mackabel down the stretch and like their
Speaker 1: bullpen's been good and that's why they I'm describing a
Speaker 1: four games on your five hundred team.
Speaker 3: Basically, I feel like the Twins are not that they
Speaker 3: have a lot to sell, but like they're I feel
Speaker 3: like they're the team and I don't I'm not as
Speaker 3: familiar with I know they've had like this weird ownership
Speaker 3: change semi change like situation or whatever. But I feel
Speaker 3: like they're the team that uh wants to win the least.
Speaker 3: Uh So we'll look for the opportunity to sell whatever
Speaker 3: they can at the earliest. And but the school thing
Speaker 3: is obviously the most fascinating because like the Tigers can
Speaker 3: absolutely compete, but like, do they want to lose scoob
Speaker 3: belfo They're not going to resign Schooble, so do they
Speaker 3: go for it with him or do they and if
Speaker 3: they trade him, that is just you know, conceding the season,
Speaker 3: a season that might not be lost. And we haven't
Speaker 3: even mentioned the the actual division leaders. Cleveland the suddenly
Speaker 3: most beat like they had the latter, Bazana, Ramirez. Now
Speaker 3: two of those guys are down. I think angel uh
Speaker 3: are on. How Martinez, I think it's hurt.
Speaker 2: He snuck his injury in on a day where Ramire
Speaker 2: has already got injured. So yeah, but like Stephen Quan
Speaker 2: unfortunately not hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the healthiest team in baseball up until
Speaker 2: the last week. It's very interesting it all happened at once.
Speaker 1: It's a long season, as we like to say, it's.
Speaker 2: A long season. I feel like we were talking about
Speaker 2: them being like middle of the pack in DRC like
Speaker 2: three weeks ago. They're twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Now, like they're giving a lot more at bats to
Speaker 1: like Gabriel Arius and Khalil Watson. Khalil Watson, Yeah, to her.
Speaker 3: Fairchilds and who I still don't believe is a real
Speaker 3: MLB player. But I keep saying in box scores, you
Speaker 3: can't have a PD in baseball. D Helpin.
Speaker 1: Like they're I mean again, they're kind of back to
Speaker 1: just being the Guardians we know and tolerate, Like Parker
Speaker 1: Messic continues to be quite good, you know, Gavin Williams
Speaker 1: has been, you know, not as good as last year,
Speaker 1: but fine. And then they just keep like finding enough pitching,
Speaker 1: like again, Slate Chacconi has a foreign a happy ra
Speaker 1: Joey Cantillo has a four r's. You know, these are
Speaker 1: better things to have when you're off average as opposed
Speaker 1: to what it is now. But they of all of
Speaker 1: these teams, they feel the most like they can win
Speaker 1: eighty five games.
Speaker 2: Well, it helps when you have the only team that
Speaker 2: hasn't missed to start. Yeah, right, there's they have five starters.
Speaker 2: It's worked. It's good because they don't have a sixth starter.
Speaker 3: They just got Sabrowski back from the i L. He
Speaker 3: is this year's random pop up Cleveland reliever who turns
Speaker 3: in a really good season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a fun he's a fun pitcher when it
Speaker 2: comes down, he's very very Logan Henderson Codd. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The picture that has made the most appearances for them
Speaker 1: out of the pen is Patrick's own, Matt Festa.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would have guess Hunter Gatis, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they've they got there getting a good Colin
Speaker 1: Holderman season, which seems to happen every other year for
Speaker 1: whatever team has Colin Holderman, and they pick the right year,
Speaker 1: I guess. You know, Kate Smith is one of the
Speaker 1: best believers in baseball, so that it is against a
Speaker 1: Guardians team and that's probably as we've seen in recent
Speaker 1: years and not in the Al Central, but.
Speaker 3: Probably is again this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably isn't. But are any of these teams buyers,
Speaker 1: I guess, because that could make a big difference here.
Speaker 3: I I've talked about this a lot in regards to
Speaker 3: the White Sox obviously, and I could see them doing
Speaker 3: the like I feel like we've seen like the Pittsburghs
Speaker 3: and Cincinnatis of the world.
Speaker 2: Make this Isiah and you know two middle relievers.
Speaker 3: The name that I the name that I brought up
Speaker 3: because it's pitching, is they'll trade like Michael Lorenzen.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But so they've they're gonna plug one of their
Speaker 3: black holes in their lineup with Kyle Teal. Hopefully they've
Speaker 3: gotten way above water production out of guys like Tristan
Speaker 3: Peters and like Randall Gritschuk has been a fine platoon
Speaker 3: pick up for them, but they have no pitching beyond
Speaker 3: the four guys were throwing right now, and two of
Speaker 3: the four guys who were throwing right now are Anthony
Speaker 3: k and Eric Fetti. They're bullpenning every fifth day until
Speaker 3: Noah Schultz comes back, which should be next weekend, and
Speaker 3: even that has been questionable. Since he made his debut,
Speaker 3: the bullpen has been better than expected. Grant Taylor's been
Speaker 3: one of the best relievers in baseball. Brian Hudson, Anthony
Speaker 3: Domingus is incredibly sir Anthony Domingez where he can have
Speaker 3: blow ups like yesterday, but he's like fine in a
Speaker 3: setup role. I just I think this offense is as
Speaker 3: good as advertised. I don't think they'll have the pitching
Speaker 3: to hold up down the stretch. Maybe they trade for,
Speaker 3: you know, again, Lorenzen types, but I don't think any
Speaker 3: of these teams end up being buyers. I think the
Speaker 3: team that should be buyers is Detroit. They won't be
Speaker 3: and yeah, everyone else will just do cursory.
Speaker 1: With the White Sox lineup, and I think we saw
Speaker 1: us a little bit against the Tigers. Is when you
Speaker 1: know they're reliant on Monkri and Vargas and Murakami when
Speaker 1: he's healthy hitting home runs because they don't really they'll walk,
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not keeping the line moving to use
Speaker 1: like an announcer cliche, right like, they have the guys
Speaker 1: that get on base and Antonachi and Madrap, but they're
Speaker 1: really reliant on the three run homer to an extent.
Speaker 1: And when those guys aren't, like, these guys hit a
Speaker 1: lot of homers, right like, they're all on pace for
Speaker 1: thirty plus I mean Murakami, min Nick because he's hurt,
Speaker 1: but they're all on pace for like thirty plus homers.
Speaker 1: But they're so reliant on that that you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose some four to three games in that when
Speaker 1: they're not when they're striking out of they're three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty two feet flyouts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, we talk about the White Sox and
Speaker 2: getting a fourth starter like more than any other team
Speaker 2: though it feels like they need a third starter, they
Speaker 2: need a playoff starter. R Yeah, and they're not going
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: We see Davis Martin kind of take a step back
Speaker 3: a little bit, which was expected. Sean Burk's been great
Speaker 3: when pitching ahead of behind a behind an opener. He
Speaker 3: threw a I don't even know if there's a term
Speaker 3: for that. He threw a complete game behind an opener.
Speaker 3: Uh against the I think it was the one game
Speaker 3: they won against the Yankees. But yeah, I yeah, they
Speaker 3: have the second most homers in baseball as a team.
Speaker 3: Only the Yankees have hit more home runs than this team. Uh,
Speaker 3: they have a complete enough offense. But yeah, it's very
Speaker 3: They're going to go through these really funky periods, like
Speaker 3: you said, Jeff, because you know, they don't have those
Speaker 3: blind movers like you said.
Speaker 2: This team really could use, which is a.
Speaker 3: Shame I've been saying that I have.
Speaker 1: In the next segment, I've heard I've.
Speaker 3: Heard Sonny Gray mentioned if Boston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he will have a common He's a
Speaker 1: no trader. He makes it okay more comed he although
Speaker 1: he has said he was willing to wave it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if it will wave it for
Speaker 2: the White Sox.
Speaker 3: Because there Hagan Smith is now hurt in the minors. Uh,
Speaker 3: Tanner McDougall is hurt. Who was kind of the guy
Speaker 3: that people were expecting to pop up If it wasn't
Speaker 3: Hagen Smith, Jonathan Cannon hasn't been any good down there,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: After Jonathan Cannon is still in the organization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he uh competed for the fifth started training.
Speaker 1: And didn't get it, which tells you something.
Speaker 3: Yes, and he's been bad. Shane Smith was, I know,
Speaker 3: Patrick's mentioned him. He was terrible when he got sent
Speaker 3: down and now he's hurt. So, yeah, the options are
Speaker 3: incredibly thin. It was, and they called up Junior Perez
Speaker 3: because ever since Pereira came back and then got hurt again.
Speaker 3: And of course when they whenever Sin Pereira came back,
Speaker 3: they traded Derek Hill to the Phillies.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh so they all of a sudden are hurt For
Speaker 3: outfield depth, I don't know. Obviously, I follow this team
Speaker 3: a lot closer than the average baseball viewer.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It feels a lot like a house of cards. I
Speaker 3: do think their offense has enough to to keep them
Speaker 3: like interesting the rest of the year, but I think
Speaker 3: Detroit and Cleveland are still both better teams than them.
Speaker 3: We'll see if Detroit what Detroit does. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The White Sox just need to convert Jordan Hicks back
Speaker 2: to starting again. It's been a couple of weeks, a
Speaker 2: couple months. We can, we can turn them off and
Speaker 2: turn them.
Speaker 3: They did just call him back. He just he just
Speaker 3: came back from injury. I forgot about that one. When
Speaker 3: when they when they do well, when they activated him,
Speaker 3: I go, oh, yeah, the White Sox have Jordan Hicks.
Speaker 3: I follow this team every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about the Royals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: I mean they have Bobby Went playing through a torn meniscus. Yeah, brain,
Speaker 1: I guess not.
Speaker 3: And mikel Garcia has been super banged up too. He
Speaker 3: keeps coming in and out of the lineup with I
Speaker 3: forget it's like a wrist injury or or hand injury
Speaker 3: or something like that. He hasn't been nearly as good
Speaker 3: as last year.
Speaker 1: I am feeling pretty good about my Jack cagleone breakout
Speaker 1: pick though he's doing exactly what I would have hoped.
Speaker 3: Pascanino is still hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you just not be good, Like we're
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 3: I was on team pat You guys talked a while ago,
Speaker 3: like like who's your team in the ALSN or whatever?
Speaker 3: And Patrick was on the Royal. You guys are both
Speaker 3: on the Tigers. I was on the Royals. Carter Jensen's
Speaker 3: look good.
Speaker 1: He's the hing I mean that he's not a great
Speaker 1: depending better than salth Perez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably better.
Speaker 3: If he's not better than they've got a big problem.
Speaker 1: Michael Massey has more bobbleheads in full seasons with an
Speaker 1: OBP over three hundred.
Speaker 3: And Mike cal Garcia being in an out of lineup
Speaker 3: means more Nick Lofton in the line does It's never
Speaker 3: a good thing for anyone except maybe Nick Lofton.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the pitching has been okay.
Speaker 3: Stephen Kohlik has kind of started to turn back into
Speaker 3: a pumpkin. I feel like.
Speaker 1: The pishing is as good as any other team in
Speaker 1: this division.
Speaker 3: Sure that way.
Speaker 1: I mean their best pitcher is like either no Noah
Speaker 1: Cameron or Seth Lugo, depending on your war of choice.
Speaker 1: And right now, Noah Cameron is striking out a batter
Speaker 1: and a half more per nign than Seth Lugo, which
Speaker 1: is a problem for Seth Luga, although he's been fine,
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, Cameron, Lugo and Waka I've all been
Speaker 1: burying degrees of pretty good. They just can't hit, yeah,
Speaker 1: which takes us to another division. No one wants to win?
Speaker 1: Topic number two. Do you know how the West was one?
Speaker 1: Despite everyone on this show for the last month saying
Speaker 1: the Mariners were eventually going to run away with this division.
Speaker 1: They are also two games over five hundred a one
Speaker 1: game now. They lost yesterday. I see, I gotta keep
Speaker 1: up game and a half ahead of the Athletics, two
Speaker 1: ahead of the Rangers, and only three ahead of I
Speaker 1: guess my Houston Astros in this division context, Patrick, what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Mariners?
Speaker 2: Well, they were playing Miles Master Bony at first and
Speaker 2: Connor Joen left. Yeah, and West and Wilson at third.
Speaker 1: Well, I certainly just called up weston Wilson.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. There's been a lot of injuries, a lot
Speaker 2: of like a lot of like nobody's they haven't all
Speaker 2: been heard at the same time. It feels like they
Speaker 2: are just kind of passing each other in the rolling door.
Speaker 2: JP Crawford is hurting. Now he's back. Josh Naylor was
Speaker 2: out for a few days, which is how you got
Speaker 2: MASTERARONI now Tom can Zone is apparently hurt. Julio was
Speaker 2: hurt but didn't have to go in the I l
Speaker 2: The pitching has been good and that's probably the only
Speaker 2: reason why.
Speaker 1: They like they're using like multiple piggybacks now too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're doing.
Speaker 2: So Luis Castillo is probably not a major league starter anymow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but nobody wants to say it, and so the entire
Speaker 2: pitching staff is decided rather than just piggyback Castillo, I mean,
Speaker 2: the idea was originally to piggyback Castillo and Bryce Miller,
Speaker 2: who Miller struggled early on in the season. Miller now
Speaker 2: has a one point five eight e r A. Miller's
Speaker 2: just better, Like he just needs to be a full
Speaker 2: time starter, but there's no one left the piggyback Casto.
Speaker 2: You have five starters and then a piggyback starter. It
Speaker 2: doesn't really work. Probably the answer is probably Hancock should
Speaker 2: be the piggyback starter, right.
Speaker 1: He's been I know he is not God, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like they just need to fit the maritors that we've
Speaker 1: been saying for years, just need a fifth starter. They
Speaker 1: don't need to be one of them. They've had exactly five,
Speaker 1: and then this year one of them is not good anymore,
Speaker 1: which is that they.
Speaker 2: Have six and one of them is not good anymore,
Speaker 2: and they keep pitching him Anyhow, that's the thing is
Speaker 2: that they have Gilbert Kirby, wu Miller Hancock. That's your
Speaker 2: that's a good five man rotation. And then they just
Speaker 2: keep starting Louise Steal. Now they just keep getting bulk
Speaker 2: to Louise Steel.
Speaker 3: Do they call up Kate Anderson this year? Should they slash?
Speaker 2: Do they?
Speaker 1: They probably should? I mean they probably promoted the Triple
Speaker 1: A first.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like, yeahiculous.
Speaker 1: I keep like Kate Anderson is going to rank very
Speaker 1: high on our season fifty and a lot of that
Speaker 1: is based on he's probably just a Major League two
Speaker 1: three right now, which they could use. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think he has a much upside as some of the
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna rank ahead of him or maybe
Speaker 1: even behind him. But like there's no point, like Double
Speaker 1: A was already a very aggressive assignment, but like just
Speaker 1: you're not learning anything here.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cal Raley three of eighteen since coming back from the
Speaker 3: IL Yeah, no home runs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're they're hurt and they're not. Like again,
Speaker 1: dominic Ken Zones been their best header, which.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Yeah, I don't know. I still think
Speaker 2: they're the best team in the division.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely but like, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's but it's just because of the pitching. It's it's
Speaker 3: like the opposite that's carrying at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colt Emerson has cooled off a fair bait. He's
Speaker 1: striking out thirty two percent of the time right now,
Speaker 1: which is not really what you want from Cole Emerson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, TRC does not believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like again, I think he'll be fine. Like this
Speaker 1: is also the first one hundred plate appearances of his career,
Speaker 1: so and he hasn't been like awful. He had six
Speaker 1: home runs, which is more power than I expectedly from
Speaker 1: Colt Emerson too, but again like they should like I
Speaker 1: just you'd think they would run away from it, but
Speaker 1: also run away with it. But also like who's who
Speaker 1: do you think can catch them? I guess is the.
Speaker 3: Other Well, the only team that can come close to them,
Speaker 3: and they're still far behind them from a pitching standpoint
Speaker 3: is Texas. Yeah, with de gram Yvaldi. They just placed
Speaker 3: Jack Lighter on the il. Jack Lighter has been one
Speaker 3: of the most frustrating pitchers for me to watch because
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Like I specifically like there
Speaker 1: were I think he was there was like I had
Speaker 1: a break between World Cup games, like I should throw
Speaker 1: a game on and one of them was a jack
Speaker 1: The only one was a Jack Lighter start. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it was the game was the Lake game, Like I'm not,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Putting this on my Jack Lighter investment is fantasy baseball relate,
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. And I traded for him
Speaker 3: and then he immediately just went in the tank. I
Speaker 3: traded for him after his ten strikeout five and two
Speaker 3: third inning outing, and yeah, he's given up fifteen runs
Speaker 3: and fifty ten innings basically over his last three starts,
Speaker 3: and now he's on the I. L. H. Gore has
Speaker 3: also been very frustrating for them, Like, I mean, de
Speaker 3: Gram and Yuvaldi is a one to two is still
Speaker 3: perfectly fine. That's like a playoff caliber rotation right there,
Speaker 3: but behind them has been very questionable. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: the offense just soup, Like how long are we going
Speaker 3: to keep waiting for? Like Wyat Length everyone every before
Speaker 3: every year one's like White Lengthford MVP turn.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been very good since he came back
Speaker 1: from the injury, but okay, like he's only played thirty
Speaker 1: five games for.
Speaker 2: Them, how long are we going to keep waiting for
Speaker 2: having Carter? I mean, boy, the oldest twenty three year old,
Speaker 2: well was history.
Speaker 1: He kept waiting for Josh Young and he's been like
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: So you guys had a conversation a few weeks ago
Speaker 3: about Boston and how they keep calling up these top
Speaker 3: prospects and then they don't really live up the hype Texas.
Speaker 3: I feel like it is in the same ballpark with
Speaker 3: length few prospects. True, but they call up these guys,
Speaker 3: the few guys they have they call up and then
Speaker 3: they kind of struggle to get their feet under them.
Speaker 3: Did you know that Jared Kellenick is now on the ring?
Speaker 2: I did know, but I did not realize that they
Speaker 2: optioned Josh Smith to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, with Nicky Lopez instead in manning second base.
Speaker 2: Like that's a weird Yeah. Yeah, life comes at you fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Is Ezekiel Duran still their best hitter?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, it is, it's I mean he's no, he's been
Speaker 1: their second best position player because he's also played behind Young.
Speaker 3: One of the Rangers games I watched recently was an
Speaker 3: Apple TV broadcast, and a big talking point was Ezekiel
Speaker 3: Duran's All Star candidacy.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no second basement.
Speaker 2: There there is because it's going to be your any clement,
Speaker 2: but four times the votes of anybody else.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Duran has played twenty six Karan has played
Speaker 1: twenty six games at shortstop for them this year. Like
Speaker 1: I did not think Ezekiel Duran was a shortstop in
Speaker 1: short season a ball, even though he.
Speaker 2: Was playing there more than any other position.
Speaker 1: Twenty two at second, sixteen at left, ten, at third. Look,
Speaker 1: he's been like he's had seasons like this before. He
Speaker 1: did this in twenty twenty three, Like he's capable doing this.
Speaker 1: I just don't. And they've used him kind of weirdly
Speaker 1: over the years. I think part of this was Josh
Speaker 1: Smith being good, so they didn't like they're kind of
Speaker 1: duplicative and Smith is a better defender at more spots.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I mean he's been fine, But you
Speaker 1: also don't wanted to be your second best position player.
Speaker 1: That's a general rule. Yeah, I don't like. Again, what
Speaker 1: is the if the standard is you have to get
Speaker 1: to eighty five wins, which again it looks like in
Speaker 1: this division Texas, I unlike any of the ale Central teams,
Speaker 1: I do believe Texas would buy.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they are.
Speaker 1: They are still pretty you know, pot committed to this core.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I would say the core based around
Speaker 1: Corey Seger, but Corey Seger barely plays now. But like
Speaker 1: the Seeger de gram Avaldi, you know, they probably only
Speaker 1: have a couple more years. You know. They did the
Speaker 1: by trade with Mackenzie Gore already, you know, and traded
Speaker 1: ironically the prospect, the best prospect they traded, and idea
Speaker 1: was not the best prospect at the time, but they
Speaker 1: traded a guy that's trending towards the mid season fifty
Speaker 1: Devin Fitzgerald in that too, So they don't have a
Speaker 1: ton more chips to push in. Obviously, they didn't have
Speaker 1: too many before they traded for Gore. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: Walcott should be back at some point in the second
Speaker 1: half of the season, but probably not before the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: and probably not in a way that's gonna allow you
Speaker 1: to deal. They have some arms.
Speaker 3: But it was TJ too, like he's probably gonna DH
Speaker 3: when he comes back, right right, Yeah, Like, I guess
Speaker 3: the question if you're Texas and your trading is what
Speaker 3: what is the you know, you can only trade for
Speaker 3: so much. Is it a back end starter? Is it
Speaker 3: a second like what position they get?
Speaker 1: I think it's a third starter. Like they could really
Speaker 1: use Freddy Peralta right behind that just to stabilize the
Speaker 1: and he's start Game three for them and stabilize them
Speaker 1: all that rotation. So I guess, you know, like they
Speaker 1: are a team, and they are a team that does
Speaker 1: like Peralta because he's a rental and has not been
Speaker 1: particularly good. And the Mets, because of where they are
Speaker 1: in the luxury tech situation, haven't even like lower qualifying
Speaker 1: offer pick that they'll get back. So the standard for
Speaker 1: beating the qualifying offers even lower than it is with
Speaker 1: the Tigers and Schooble. I think there'll be some interest there,
Speaker 1: you know, Cubs, Rangers, Padres, maybe like teams like that
Speaker 1: that probably aren't probably don't have the pieces to get Scooble.
Speaker 1: I think the Cubs might be interested. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I don't think you put a package together. Wrote about
Speaker 1: that last week at BP two weeks ago. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there are teams that are going to be not in
Speaker 1: this Schooble race. But like it's I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: it's like the appearance of doing something, because like Freddy,
Speaker 1: Peralta would improve this rotation as bad as he's been
Speaker 1: his last few starts, But it's not a move that
Speaker 1: you're gonna like really, Like I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to cost him like Kiden Scarborough when we do like
Speaker 1: Kiden Scarborough less than pretty much any other place on
Speaker 1: the planet. But they they won't. They don't have a
Speaker 1: ton of product, they don't have prospects trade that they're
Speaker 1: gonna miss right in some ways, just as a function
Speaker 1: of where their farm system is right.
Speaker 3: Now, wouldn't Sandy be a pretty good fit in that ballpark?
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're looking at a third starter
Speaker 3: you mentioned Peralta, maybe I'll contrabably costs a little less
Speaker 3: in terms of prospect capital.
Speaker 1: Right, and like I think the Range would be willing
Speaker 1: to take on the money too. Yeah, it's very funny,
Speaker 1: like somehow degromminy Evaldi are also running one point six
Speaker 1: on run per nine in that stadium, like they've both
Speaker 1: been quite good, Like de Grama is basically having the
Speaker 1: dram season with like an extra home run per nine
Speaker 1: innings despite pitching, and so that might just be like
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight, the shapes degraded a little bit. He
Speaker 1: isn't throw quite as hard, so when he tries to
Speaker 1: live in this zone with the fastball slider, it gets hit.
Speaker 1: Like he'd have games you've been at his peak where
Speaker 1: he could you know, he would just say like, all right,
Speaker 1: if he can hit ninety eight in his own god bless,
Speaker 1: and it would happen occasionally.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he started to see you could You could
Speaker 2: almost see it as kind of like early stage shures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is like two years younger than I know,
Speaker 1: but then are two years ago didn't get either.
Speaker 2: The weird thing about the Rangers is that I feel
Speaker 2: like there's no team with quite as much discrepancy between
Speaker 2: o PS and d RC, Like, uh, we have them
Speaker 2: ranked twenty third as an offense, and then you look
Speaker 2: at the lineup, but go, well, where are you plugging
Speaker 2: a guy? I remember right now they are They brought
Speaker 2: up Jared Keelnick. So the answers they hit Jared keltniket right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Alejandrosuna has been uh okay, but not not
Speaker 2: you know, not eminently replaceable and left And I guess
Speaker 2: part of it is like if you were you started
Speaker 2: off the season assuming a Carter link for Nemo outfield,
Speaker 2: and if you want to continue to assume that you can,
Speaker 2: I guess you can.
Speaker 1: Nemo has been despite leaving multiple games in the fourth inning,
Speaker 1: relatively healthy.
Speaker 2: The Rangers had been full of players that are just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they've been pretty good, okay, with Jake Berger, with Juck
Speaker 2: Peterson's back, like Brandon Nemo has been fine.
Speaker 1: Again, we are describing a two games under five hundred.
Speaker 2: K Yeah, sort of. I don't know. It's it's hard
Speaker 2: to say. I think I think you I think they
Speaker 2: should target another outfielder. I think maybe I think you
Speaker 2: take whatever Carter can give you as gravy at this point,
Speaker 2: but don't don't lean on him for a for starting
Speaker 2: this if you if you really want to make the
Speaker 2: playoffs this year, they.
Speaker 1: Could really use a catcher. But also like, just don't
Speaker 1: trade for catchers at mid season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's not good. I don't
Speaker 2: think I get anything better than Danny Jansen when he's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know what catchers I mean. I
Speaker 3: guess like the like Krotini or something like that.
Speaker 2: Kartini has been like one of the best hitters in baseball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this month, but that's true. I was looking.
Speaker 3: I was just scrolling through uh Kylie and Tassanda to
Speaker 3: top one hundred trade candidates for the season. I was
Speaker 3: trying to and Jared Duran would look really good in
Speaker 3: that outfield.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, and again it's like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six year and Durance. We're not even like setting
Speaker 1: the bar that high.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: The hunter Goodman mentioned is interesting because I've been thinking
Speaker 3: about the you know, the joke about the rock he's
Speaker 3: not trading anyone. But is that still the case with
Speaker 3: the Paul de Podesta run front office. Are they actually
Speaker 3: gonna make like logical baseball related decisions at the trade
Speaker 3: deadline this year which we haven't seen them do practically ever, Like,
Speaker 3: are they gonna trade Antonio Sinzitela, you know who's like
Speaker 3: they're somehow.
Speaker 2: Yes in that case, I think I will think so Goodman.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought so last If sense of Talent
Speaker 3: was doing last year what he was doing this year,
Speaker 3: I still I would have been like, no, they're not
Speaker 3: gonna trade them to the Rockies.
Speaker 2: I mean trade Trevor Story. Why would.
Speaker 3: And they're like low key one of the most fascinating
Speaker 3: deadline teams just because of the new front office.
Speaker 1: Your trade Mickey Moniac, Yeah, they should like the regular like.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't look he would not look terrible.
Speaker 1: You're not the Rangers off and the outfil either trade
Speaker 1: him to the Phillies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, and when we were when I looked
Speaker 2: at this dock in the dock the team though, I
Speaker 2: give me the rate. Now looking at the Rangers, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they've got they've got a puncher's chance here.
Speaker 2: Uh so do the Athletics, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess just because you know, the
Speaker 1: Mariners are one of giving the.
Speaker 2: Chance, right, yes, but like this pitching staff doesn't look
Speaker 2: terrible all of a sudden, like and it doesn't look great.
Speaker 2: But J C. Gin engaged jump and you know, like
Speaker 2: Jack Perkins is weird. Jack Perkins is a day darling
Speaker 2: who is getting completely hammered on. Pauls and play right now.
Speaker 2: But between those and Springs is perfectly okay as a
Speaker 2: fourth starter will be back and the bullpen has been
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard like we've reached a point with
Speaker 2: the Athletics. You look at you look at the numbers.
Speaker 2: You can't really look at the numbers for the athletics
Speaker 2: because we've reached kind of like cores adjacent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we can adjust for this, and like
Speaker 1: we can't. Langoliers and Soderstrom and even Gelloff like there's
Speaker 1: still been good, right, Like they're still like I know,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's eight fifty oh PS's it's not
Speaker 1: as fancy in that park, but they're still good. They
Speaker 1: got a lot of good hitters. I mean, the Kurts
Speaker 1: is obviously a star level guy right at this point,
Speaker 1: but like the next year down of guys has been good.
Speaker 1: Henry Boltief has been good since he again it's you
Speaker 1: look at this like Langlers and Soshim don't really swinging
Speaker 1: this anymore, and Geloff has tamed it enough, but you
Speaker 1: know a lot of these guys still do, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even Kurt themselves strikes out a lot. But Laurence
Speaker 1: are going to.
Speaker 3: Be this year. Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carlos Cortes has unsurprisingly cooled off a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean they're basically the Al West's version of the
Speaker 3: White Sox, but more more offensive upside, I feel like,
Speaker 3: because I mean, the white of Kurts his quality even
Speaker 3: with what Murakami was doing and what Colson Montgomery is doing.
Speaker 3: Like they it's it's they've got the offense to hang
Speaker 3: with anyone, but do they have enough pitching? And maybe
Speaker 3: in this division their pole opposite of Seattle essentially, uh,
Speaker 3: all offense, no pitching versus all pitching, no offense. But
Speaker 3: they're also a team that's not I'd be shocked if
Speaker 3: they made any noteworthy trade at the time.
Speaker 1: So I can't believe jt Jen has a three E
Speaker 1: r A.
Speaker 2: But well, he's like again another like hers, it's a
Speaker 2: lot nineties like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might just be good, might be all right,
Speaker 1: Like gate Jumping. I mean, he hasn't gone a home
Speaker 1: run yet, but I generally I don't think he's a
Speaker 1: two point three era picture. But I believe Gage Jump
Speaker 1: is an above average major league starter, which they badly needed.
Speaker 2: But it's very funny to look again and then look
Speaker 2: at his stuff numbers.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, no, he has like six pitches, but they're
Speaker 1: all terrible.
Speaker 2: They're all terrible.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Jtjen storry.
Speaker 3: You asked me, uh takes, Well, these aren't really takes.
Speaker 3: It's just like my uh my biggest nitpick and I
Speaker 3: bother Craig about it all the time and he gets
Speaker 3: mad at me. Is your name pronunciation? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's Aaron Savali, it's JT. Gin not the one that
Speaker 3: I actually really pissed Craig off about. It's Chase my
Speaker 3: droth draft looking at the A roster get on there. Yeah, yes, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I know, and I don't actually care. I just like I.
Speaker 2: Intentionally did not bring up Aaron saval because I didn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't to sir whether to mispronounce his name intentionally Andymore,
Speaker 2: but I decided I'm not even to do the joke.
Speaker 2: I'll just skip it. I'm just never going to talk
Speaker 2: about him ever again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He Luckily, he makes it very easy to do it,
Speaker 3: sure does.
Speaker 1: This is a team that, like I know, Jeffrey Spragans,
Speaker 1: they traded a fair bit four and he's making a
Speaker 1: fair bit of money. But they probably need to move
Speaker 1: him to the pen and find another starter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean twenty one home runs in season, had.
Speaker 3: A really good start to the season. I kind of
Speaker 3: was looking at him like, oh, is this is this
Speaker 3: a step forward? But no it is not. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: home runs, it just it's not suited for this part. No,
Speaker 3: and he made the start. I believe he started the
Speaker 3: last game and Vegas where they allowed twenty three runs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that didn't help matters.
Speaker 1: He knocked around at his last one too, back in
Speaker 1: the normal.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Park.
Speaker 2: Let's let me let's look a road split. Let's see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's no, he's been.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're giving up two point three home
Speaker 1: runs for nine, some of them are coming on the road. Like,
Speaker 1: that's just the reality.
Speaker 2: He's giving up twice as many runs at home, twice
Speaker 2: as many home runs, more than twice as many runs.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and you mentioned Severarinos possibly coming back.
Speaker 3: They did just transferm to the sixty man. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's back until at least August at this point,
Speaker 3: but they would potentially have him for the stretch run
Speaker 3: if they're still in a yeah, which they probably will
Speaker 3: be because it's the al Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that this this this division, it really feels
Speaker 2: like there's it's the Mariners and then a bunch of
Speaker 2: teams that if they get all the positive regression the
Speaker 2: negative progression, right, Yeah, if Brent Rooker hits better and
Speaker 2: Lawrence Butler hits at all, Right, then this team could
Speaker 2: possibly do it right. And then you know the Rangers,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, Corey Seeger could just be one sixty
Speaker 2: ops plus Cory Seer, right, but there's a lot of
Speaker 2: players on both these teams have kind of a hitting
Speaker 2: over their head a little bit, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: if you get if you get the regular Josh Young,
Speaker 2: then yeah, they're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Astros have had the most like normal,
Speaker 1: like most playing to the back of the baseball card
Speaker 1: type season. I mean, obviously having Alvaro is healthy for
Speaker 1: the whole year has been a boon, but like, like.
Speaker 3: You think he's not doing the home run derby by
Speaker 3: the way, kind of a bummer for people who care
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: Penia is back and now playing every day and has
Speaker 1: gone back to just being good Jeremy Pania. So they
Speaker 1: have like the bats, especially if Christian Walker can continue
Speaker 1: to just even be above average.
Speaker 3: Paradis got off to a really slow start and he's.
Speaker 1: Act to normal and like, but and they have gotten
Speaker 1: like obviously Arraghetty yea right, like Bryce Elder got it
Speaker 1: all out and two starts. Arraghetty's doing it a little
Speaker 1: bit more slowly. And like Lambert, Like I don't like
Speaker 1: so Lambert has more or less earned this like run prevention, right,
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't believe in it, right, I
Speaker 1: just don't think it is. And like he was a
Speaker 1: good prospect nine years ago or whatever at this point,
Speaker 1: but you know, he's more of like a cutter primary
Speaker 1: guy now and he's saying, look the the it's believable.
Speaker 1: And so much as the Astros do this, right, like
Speaker 1: even and like I know they've had some front office
Speaker 1: and player development changes over the last five years, there's
Speaker 1: still like some vestigio we can pop a picture every
Speaker 1: once in a while that I believe in. And I
Speaker 1: think Lambert's improvements are an extent reel. But you know,
Speaker 1: Kaiwai Tang has been very good as the star.
Speaker 3: Like I like I was gonna bring him up. I
Speaker 3: kind of like him. I kind of like him.
Speaker 1: But again, it's like we're describing a five games under
Speaker 1: five hundred t right.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, let's put it this way. He is
Speaker 2: one of the best st strikeout to walk ratios on
Speaker 2: the team. It's two point three yeah.
Speaker 3: Look like their starter, right yeah. I think it's his
Speaker 3: sweeper that's like really above he's got one really above
Speaker 3: average pitch. I think by like stuff models. I can't
Speaker 3: remember what it is if it's a sweeper, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a nice little pop in my eyes shown signs
Speaker 3: like super I don't know what. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do with that guy right now.
Speaker 1: I mean this is also a like a pitching staff
Speaker 1: that in that ballpark does not get a lot of
Speaker 1: ground balls outside of Hunter Brown who doesn't need them
Speaker 1: as much as the other guys do. Like I think,
Speaker 1: like I still, and I've said this all on I
Speaker 1: believe the Astros have a run in them, and like
Speaker 1: we're starting to see this, but and they are another
Speaker 1: team that is capable of buying at the deadline right,
Speaker 1: Like they need a bullpen badly and that's like one
Speaker 1: of the easier things to fix in July.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they have enough pitching.
Speaker 1: Yeah they might not, And they don't think.
Speaker 2: That the starting pitching has like they'll have a run, yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's it, Like they're not going to be able
Speaker 2: to keep.
Speaker 1: It up for and they need like one or two
Speaker 1: more bats as well, which isn't like the too many
Speaker 1: holes to plug the entire outfield is as we said
Speaker 1: coming into the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that takes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that brings us to the Angels, who are not
Speaker 1: particularly they are relevant to this discussion, insomuch as Ardie
Speaker 1: Moreno has said they're not going to trade anyone ah
Speaker 1: in this case primarily uh Joe Adelle, Soriano all players.
Speaker 1: Like the Astros could really use Joe Adele right, like
Speaker 1: Joe Adell in that park would be a big boom
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: It's we want to praise teams for not taking this
Speaker 2: is not like this.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even think it's the you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want another team make us look foolish on
Speaker 1: Joe Adell. I think they've gotten some stuff out of
Speaker 1: Joe Adell now to the point where they can say,
Speaker 1: you know, we've recouped whatever, But like, like, what are
Speaker 1: they're going to run it back next year? I guess
Speaker 1: with these guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2: This like Colin, I don't know if this resonates with you.
Speaker 2: And I'm not a fancy guy, but this really aren't
Speaker 2: even Rna feels like a fancy guy who gave up
Speaker 2: on his team in May. But it's not like still
Speaker 2: answering his emails but just refusing to do any roster moves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's stubbornness. I bought these guys. I
Speaker 3: believe in them.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't like I want I want fans
Speaker 1: to come out in August to the games, and like
Speaker 1: they really come out for Redemers and Joe adel Zach Nato. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're coming out because you keep tickets pretty
Speaker 1: cheap and it's like not much else to do in
Speaker 1: Orange County. I guess, like, I don't think it's really
Speaker 1: gonna matter if it's Joe Adell or Bryce Theodosio. I guess,
Speaker 1: like Nelson Rada if you want to call a prospect.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you know my kid, my kid's math homework.
Speaker 2: What you know, he'll take a test in the and
Speaker 2: the math teacher will be like, you can redo your test,
Speaker 2: answers to get half the score back, and I feel
Speaker 2: like Ardie Marino just refuses to just go back and
Speaker 2: read it get the three points.
Speaker 1: You also have a test. Like you combine this with
Speaker 1: like the GM and manager being on well, the GM's
Speaker 1: on the last year is deal. I think of the
Speaker 1: manager's on a one year contract. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: like like what am I supposed to like pyramid asy
Speaker 1: and who I don't have a ton of sympathy here
Speaker 1: for like he built this team, right, but I do like, like,
Speaker 1: what is he supposed to do now? Like, just like you,
Speaker 1: July Is can be pretty quiet. May'll get some golf in,
Speaker 1: take a vacation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only thing I mean to a certain extent,
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, what's tearing down really gonna do? Are
Speaker 3: you gonna change theory of your system by trading Adele
Speaker 3: and Dept?
Speaker 2: Meurs?
Speaker 3: And probably? Yeah? But that's that's that's the thing is.
Speaker 3: You've got to start.
Speaker 1: You got to start something, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's like the the Twins trading every reliever
Speaker 3: last year. Uh you know, I guess they had they
Speaker 3: got some good pieces because they had John Duran. But
Speaker 3: you've just got to start somewhere to get off of
Speaker 3: having to play Jose Sirian Donovan Walton every day.
Speaker 1: You're gonna play Jose more if you make this trade too.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the Angels cell. They have to do something.
Speaker 3: And see everything that we're saying here, go back to
Speaker 3: last year. Replace the word Angels with Rockies and that's
Speaker 3: that's where this franchise is now.
Speaker 1: On that note, take a break and come back and
Speaker 1: do our last three topics. Welcome back to episode five
Speaker 1: fifty six of five and five. Our third topic, we
Speaker 1: go around the Horn and back to the Giants on field,
Speaker 1: this time as Raphael Devers. Yeah, made a bit of
Speaker 1: a bit of a face when asked to come out
Speaker 1: for a pinch runner in the ninth inning of a
Speaker 1: one run game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to wave off. Yeah, he tried to
Speaker 2: pull the shuser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work quite as well when you're Rafael
Speaker 1: Devers and also Rafael Devers running.
Speaker 2: The bases Fatello afterwards, you know, Yeah, like it was
Speaker 2: all part of the master plan. Yeah, you got you
Speaker 2: gotta have players who want to win, they want to play.
Speaker 1: We're not going to any further conversation about it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talk I talk to him every day. I don't
Speaker 1: need to talk to him about this. Yeah, it won't.
Speaker 1: It won't come up when we talk every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Giants, it's just really it's incredible, like they
Speaker 1: just can't. I mean, on some level, the we pay
Speaker 1: more attention to this because of the Giants, but also
Speaker 1: this does happen to the Giants more than they really, yeah,
Speaker 1: significantly more than a median baseball team bat or otherwise.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of conversation before the year about,
Speaker 3: you know, the Giants hiring a college coach, how it's
Speaker 3: gonna go and there was a lot of like, well,
Speaker 3: if it goes bad, this is how it's going to
Speaker 3: go bad, and every single one of those prognostications kicking
Speaker 3: every box, yes, every single box. And I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys have talked about this quite a bit. We don't
Speaker 3: need to beat it into the ground. But it's like,
Speaker 3: where do you go from here other than just cut
Speaker 3: your losses? And does Buster Posey have too much ego
Speaker 3: to cut his losses or ownership have too much too
Speaker 3: much financial investment into this to cut their losses. It's
Speaker 3: it's very you know, we talk about the college aspect
Speaker 3: of it because he came from college, but it's very
Speaker 3: much like, uh, you know, in college, when you've got
Speaker 3: this coach who signed for another forty five million dollars
Speaker 3: and it's like, do we pay him out? But the
Speaker 3: difference is you don't have boosters saying exactly, will pay
Speaker 3: will pay for you to get We'll pay the rest
Speaker 3: of his contract for you to get rid of him
Speaker 3: and bring someone else in. Yeah, they obviously played it
Speaker 3: off like I mean, he Vitello played it off. The
Speaker 3: quote he or from Perliparatus article on mb dot com.
Speaker 3: He's signaling over to us that he's got he's good
Speaker 3: to run. We dh them the first game after the
Speaker 3: day off just because of base running, a little bit
Speaker 3: of soreness in his leg. But he's good to go.
Speaker 3: And so part of that, and then part of it, too, competitively,
Speaker 3: is he wants to stay in the game once we
Speaker 3: announced the has made So just going back with what
Speaker 3: our best effort is to win the game. Obviously you'd
Speaker 3: like to get Jonah to go get it back. You know,
Speaker 3: he's relatively quick to the plate, but on a double
Speaker 3: going with our best chance to be able to score.
Speaker 3: I don't see any quotes here from Devers. Has Devs
Speaker 3: spoken to reporters about this.
Speaker 1: No, probably not. I just on one level, right, this
Speaker 1: is a first time major league coach, and in a
Speaker 1: year where the Giants should not have expected to be
Speaker 1: particularly competitive. They may have, but like, on one level,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, you want to give him
Speaker 1: another chance to learn some things, but also like no,
Speaker 1: no learning is occurring or going to occur here, Like
Speaker 1: I think we can say that pretty safely. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 1: And I do want to circle back to the they
Speaker 1: didn't just hire a college coach, right, Like if they
Speaker 1: hired like Wes Johnson out of Georgia who's been a
Speaker 1: former major league pitching coach right and knows or you know,
Speaker 1: Pat Murphy was a bench coach for a number of
Speaker 1: years after leaving Notre Dame, but like they hired the
Speaker 1: most like raw rah sec like coach them up, but
Speaker 1: not even just a red ass, like a particular like
Speaker 1: kind of college coach, like I don't know, aesthetic right,
Speaker 1: and they're getting it and you're seeing why it does.
Speaker 1: It's very much like John Calipari coaching the Celtics kind
Speaker 1: of energy right now, or Steve Spurrier coaching Washington right.
Speaker 2: It's nice that every generation gets to enjoy this.
Speaker 1: Urban meyer, but you don't see it in baseball, right
Speaker 1: because there's there's generally this is changing, but there's generally
Speaker 1: been a premium put on the guy who like even
Speaker 1: if he didn't you know, maybe he didn't even make
Speaker 1: the majors, but he played professionally for a long period
Speaker 1: of time, coached in the miners, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now we're getting more of like the more immediate
Speaker 1: ex player, but it's still like a major leaguer with
Speaker 1: the level. You know, it's like David Ross, like a
Speaker 1: major with the level of Stephen Boat, right. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: Vitello doesn't hit any of those.
Speaker 3: It's not like Darren Erstad when he went back to
Speaker 3: coach Nebraska, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, or Robin Ventura or whatever. Right, Like
Speaker 1: even the bad versions of this, like you could.
Speaker 3: Apparently Mike Kruco went on to the this is this
Speaker 3: was just posted ten minutes ago. He went on to
Speaker 3: the official radio home of the Giants. His quote was,
Speaker 3: I've seen situations in baseball that are very detrimental to
Speaker 3: a manager's credibility. Certainly, I'm looking at this saying this
Speaker 3: might be one of those times, but I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on. I'm not in the clubhouse, so that
Speaker 3: is like.
Speaker 1: This, this is like the seventh one of these times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one wants to go in the clubhouse. No
Speaker 2: one wants to know.
Speaker 3: For sure, No one. That was just bad optics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Devers, No no stranger to bad optics.
Speaker 1: No, did you see the the Alex Chorus subtweet of
Speaker 1: Raphael Devers? Yeah no apparently, Yeah, he just underneath the
Speaker 1: news arle he just I think he responded, but comma
Speaker 1: butt like but but no, I mean Devers just has
Speaker 1: a type of manager he doesn't like, apparently.
Speaker 3: Patrick. You you said earlier this year, in last year
Speaker 3: that anytime that the Twins are brought up on the show,
Speaker 3: it's about something bad, and that was mostly on the
Speaker 3: field stuff, and now it's anytime we bring up the Giants,
Speaker 3: it's like going from the Pride Night nonsense right into this.
Speaker 3: It's like, anytime the Giants come up, we're not talking
Speaker 3: about the team on the field, We're talking about some
Speaker 3: other bullshit that they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine talking about the Giants on the field. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's unimationable.
Speaker 1: Uh Buster pose, he's still trying to train. Made all
Speaker 1: the expensive contracts he gave out.
Speaker 3: Chapman trade. Chapman maybe is the one who seems like he's.
Speaker 1: Like they might be able to Speaking of trade, Joey
Speaker 1: Bart has been traded from the Pirates to Atlanta. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Atlanta's had issues keeping two catchers on the field
Speaker 1: at any time the season, and Bart like he's fine,
Speaker 1: Like he's in he's at this part of his career
Speaker 1: where he's gonna bounce around and pop a good backup
Speaker 1: catcher season every once in a while, and maybe he
Speaker 1: does the rest of your way for Atlanta.
Speaker 3: They like Andy Rodriguez enough, I guess him, and.
Speaker 1: I guess he's okay. Like it's not a good defensive
Speaker 1: catcher that's been But again, the Pirates, they didn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: at some point, I guess we'll need to talk about
Speaker 1: the Pirates again.
Speaker 3: But I do like us going we go from Buster
Speaker 3: Posey to the guy who succeeded Buster Posey as Giants
Speaker 3: catcher getting traded not even in San Francisco anymore. It's
Speaker 3: better than Sandy Leone, right, Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: And Bart's weird, Like there are pieces of a good
Speaker 2: catcher in there, right. There are years he is good defensively,
Speaker 2: there are years he takes walks. Neither of those seem
Speaker 2: to be happening this year so far. But he's also
Speaker 2: just been too hurt for you to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets hurt a lot. That's also.
Speaker 2: I just think it's very funny that that if they
Speaker 2: had just waited one day to catch on the hind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who now is hitting? He has slugging five thirty seven
Speaker 2: with the athletics, seventy three plate appearances.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't really argue with Drake Baldwin Sean
Speaker 1: Murphy catching tandem and except neither of them the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, health, health can certainly argue with it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of health, everyone is hurt. Yeah, Mike's soroka.
Speaker 2: Is it worse than usual?
Speaker 1: It feels like it's the last couple of weeks there's been.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we're just covering more injuries. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but these are like fairly notable ones. Mike's Roca left
Speaker 1: to start with, the trainer Liam Hicks has hit the il.
Speaker 1: We already talked about Jack Lader, Justin Verlander joining Max
Speaker 1: Scherzer in the forty year old probably shouldn't still be
Speaker 1: pitching club yep uh. And Adie Rushman is on the
Speaker 1: concussion I out, which is the other thing that can
Speaker 1: happen to catchers? Is there anything we want to talk
Speaker 1: about here?
Speaker 2: Like trout apparently? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Left try it separately because.
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, Verlander have some quote about basically saying something
Speaker 3: about maybe he shouldn't have come back or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like that, I was thinking.
Speaker 2: About maybe the wheels are falling off.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the drink quote. I was thinking yesterday
Speaker 3: about the end of Ken Griffy Junior's career and the
Speaker 3: sleep Gate go where he which essentially I mean that
Speaker 3: beat whatever that was, but like he basically just realized
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season, like I should retire
Speaker 3: before the season. And I wonder if that's what ends
Speaker 3: up happening with Verlander, where he just says like actually done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sometimes it happens with like bit players
Speaker 3: and doesn't make headlines.
Speaker 1: But I remember mostly from when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: was Ryan Sandberg. Then he come back and then like
Speaker 1: in April just said now I'm done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Schmidt retired halfway through and like he had
Speaker 2: that last year and he and I just realized he
Speaker 2: didn't have anymore. And Mike Schmidt not having it, like
Speaker 2: he was like yes, plush, like he wasn't even that terrible,
Speaker 2: but like oh great, sorry, you know, sorry, you're terrible.
Speaker 2: Let's start Rick.
Speaker 3: Shu now, well, the irony of the Verlander injury is
Speaker 3: it honestly is better for the Tigers because uh, friend
Speaker 3: of the podcast podcast favorite kider, Montero takes his ros
Speaker 3: his rotation pretty good. He was good, He was good Sunday,
Speaker 3: although he gave up the most embarrassing result you could
Speaker 3: give up, which was a home run to Luis on
Speaker 3: Hell Acuna.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, somebody had to do it eventually.
Speaker 3: It was like, the the funniest part of it is
Speaker 3: that Acun you tried to bunt on the first two
Speaker 3: pitches and fail, And then I haven't seen Montero through
Speaker 3: the most cement mixery breaking ball I've ever seen, Like
Speaker 3: it hung up there, like it was the pitch you
Speaker 3: throw if you're trying to let your battery. The battery
Speaker 3: hit a home run and Acuna took it out. But
Speaker 3: but yes, other than that, Montero has been been very
Speaker 3: good for the time. Like I'd rather have Montero in
Speaker 3: my rotation than Berlander right now.
Speaker 2: Yep. I think the only other one I think is
Speaker 2: notable is Adly and it's more just and this is
Speaker 2: probably an article I need to write, But I was
Speaker 2: looking at the Io Ledger, the vp IO Ledger a
Speaker 2: useful tool for everyone. Uh. The or if you go
Speaker 2: you can look at the team totals and it's defaulted
Speaker 2: by games missed and the and the Orioles have missed
Speaker 2: the third most games of any team. They're right, They're right, Well,
Speaker 2: there might be fourth. They're like very close to the
Speaker 2: Blue Jays. Blue Jays have missed seventeen or twenty three.
Speaker 2: Uh No, the Oriols of mist hair and seven, so
Speaker 2: they're a little hit. But if you switch it to
Speaker 2: you can switch it to warp mist and you can
Speaker 2: switch it to percentage of warp mist, like based on
Speaker 2: how much they were projected to have how much they lost.
Speaker 2: The Orioles have led that going away three straight years.
Speaker 2: Uh they're not that old a team.
Speaker 3: No, that's uh, I mean that's one of the things.
Speaker 3: And then the training at all, what's what's going on
Speaker 3: with that that training room?
Speaker 2: And also like usually the percentage of warp miss usually
Speaker 2: means you have a team with one you have Bobby
Speaker 2: Witt and Bobby Witt got hurt, right, you have a
Speaker 2: team you have Mike Trout and Mike Trout got hurt. Yes,
Speaker 2: the Orioles don't really They weren't supposed to have just
Speaker 2: one guy that was kind of the whole point, right,
Speaker 2: and yet they've managed to like lose multiple of their
Speaker 2: main guys every year. Yeah, you do, you start to
Speaker 2: wonder what is going on.
Speaker 3: I would you said, the only one other one that's
Speaker 3: really notable, Adelie, I would argue, I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: it really depends on how much you believe in their
Speaker 3: chances of hanging around. But Liam Hicks seems like a
Speaker 3: pretty big loss for Marlin's offense.
Speaker 1: That yeah, uh, mostly Liam Hicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: I mean, Xavier Edwards has been cooled off and also
Speaker 3: been banged up. And the thing that I found most
Speaker 3: notable about it, though, is that they did not call
Speaker 3: back up Augustine Ramirez with Hicks going down. They called
Speaker 3: up a thirty one year old named Brian Navaretto, who
Speaker 3: played in two games in twenty twenty and now is
Speaker 3: back in the majors as backing up Joe Mack over
Speaker 3: Augustine Ramirez. I've not looked at how he's done in
Speaker 3: the minors since he got sent down.
Speaker 1: But I see it's one of those situations where they
Speaker 1: just want a backup catcher for this Yeah.
Speaker 3: They want someone who they don't have, they don't feel
Speaker 3: obligated to play every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is Rob Brandley retired? Rob Brandtley must be retired?
Speaker 2: Like that? He's the Brob Brandtley call up right there?
Speaker 2: Two games every year? Three games? He is not he's
Speaker 2: not an affiliated baseball right now? What's that?
Speaker 3: And they miss they missed out on the Tyler Heinemana Yes,
Speaker 3: he's in Anaheim now I think right, it makes sense
Speaker 3: because anytime you say, where is this guy at Anaheim?
Speaker 1: Yeah, injury returns. Uh, Connor Griffin might be back soon,
Speaker 1: but O'Neil Cruz will not. I don't know. Like the Pirates,
Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about the pirates here, quick
Speaker 1: to tell you about the pirates. At some point, they've
Speaker 1: talked about being buyers the deadline, saying they might put
Speaker 1: their comp pick is available, like I mean they should, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they should be buyers. That there's I said that vision
Speaker 1: is not winnable for them, but like the and a
Speaker 1: wild card is still pretty wide open, and they have
Speaker 1: the pitching they just desperately need. I think they said
Speaker 1: they need want a left handed hitting outfielder, which seems
Speaker 1: very specific. Just get someone that can hit and figure
Speaker 1: out where they're going to play.
Speaker 2: You have spots, is Mitch Keller there? Luis Castillo at
Speaker 2: this point? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. The the Brian
Speaker 2: Yolds has been incredible. Yeah, he's played every day. He
Speaker 2: is back to being something Brian Roolds. Uh. There. This
Speaker 2: is another thing. This falls into the Rangers athletics, like
Speaker 2: if they regress correctly.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean they already have right, Like they're
Speaker 1: getting the good Ryan Reynolds season. They're getting a good
Speaker 1: Spencer Horwitz season. Like Ryan O'Hearn has been fine when healthy.
Speaker 1: They're playing in the outfield, which is not idea, which
Speaker 1: probab why they want to up standard hitting outfielder so
Speaker 1: I could stop playing Ryan O'Hearn there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really need and they have a DH spot
Speaker 2: right because yeah, it's time to give up on it sooner.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, but I need to retire mid season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're also not going to fill all four of the
Speaker 1: spots we've just mentioned, right.
Speaker 2: Jake Mangham is like, Jake Mangham is fine, it's ben
Speaker 2: He's Jake Freeley, Like you can you'll live with him
Speaker 2: if they get If Connor Griffon comes back in is
Speaker 2: just has the same rookie season literally of the every
Speaker 2: other rookie in baseball is having this year, and.
Speaker 1: He was trending in that direction before the injury actually
Speaker 1: got off to a back.
Speaker 2: If you don't need to start Jared Trillo anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna do it just on principle, if.
Speaker 2: They stopped starting Henry Davis and.
Speaker 1: Just seventeen am they're going back for more Triolo.
Speaker 2: God. Yeah, it feels like there is a way for
Speaker 2: this team to This team needs just like death to
Speaker 2: save them from playing their death pieces.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is very much like we did this a
Speaker 1: lot with the Terry Collins Matts and we're doing it
Speaker 1: again with the College. But like they need to take
Speaker 1: the toys away. Basically. Yeah, this does seem like, even
Speaker 1: though it's a new ash manager, Henry.
Speaker 2: Did like all right, career ops plus Henry Davis fifty
Speaker 2: six fifty over other on fifty six, d r C
Speaker 2: plus the ops plus ops plus for Henry Davis over
Speaker 2: under fifty six.
Speaker 3: I'll say over, I'll be optimistic.
Speaker 2: Okay, you shouldn't have been. It's fifty one, Like it's
Speaker 2: been four seasons man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get that like it's he's a former
Speaker 1: number one overall pick of this administration. He's going to
Speaker 1: get a longer leash than by.
Speaker 2: The way, fifty one. He has a seventy seven his
Speaker 2: rookie year. Yeah, and it's been.
Speaker 3: Three since they tried and failed with Justins and Garcia.
Speaker 3: Already this year he's back in the minors.
Speaker 1: I believe how's neck York doing since they don't have
Speaker 1: their player page open.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's not in the major He's no, he's only he
Speaker 2: had a concussion. He has not been anyone.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean they're just we're probably going to
Speaker 1: finish fourth in that division.
Speaker 3: They'll be in the wild card race until they will
Speaker 3: probably till Yeah, despite I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if I I don't like the bar trade,
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I don't know what they're getting,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know they're getting a middle reliever I
Speaker 2: will ever think about again. And they're trading a catcher
Speaker 2: who's better than Henry Davis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also this is the same thing with
Speaker 1: like they don't want someone that's gonna play every day
Speaker 1: or yeah, play more than they're gonna play Henry Davis behind.
Speaker 2: Andy Joey Bart has never played every day.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't stay healthy games, right, Like I
Speaker 1: think it.
Speaker 2: I think you could get away with telling Joey Bart, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe just just just to keep you healthy. It's not
Speaker 2: it's not you, but you know, maybe just two three
Speaker 2: games a week to be all right. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just it's it's it is a it's literally a
Speaker 2: Joey Bart trade, but I don't think it's a very
Speaker 2: good trade.
Speaker 1: Jane Bieber, we back Monday for the Jays.
Speaker 3: Today now Tuesdays. They did because the rain people, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for the because of the rainout yesterday. Cease to starting
Speaker 3: tonight and then BIB tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Okay, like we'll see there. Yeah, a playoff race at
Speaker 1: this point. I assume they're like a game and a
Speaker 1: half out or whatever.
Speaker 2: Patrick Corbyn, watch he is a four seven three year
Speaker 2: You are right, I'm sure like one. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: bother to look at it.
Speaker 1: Also regressed faster than Spencer Origetti. Yeah, not as fast
Speaker 1: as price Elvery we talked about Kyle Teel coming back.
Speaker 1: Edgar Carrow sent down the Marlins despite being down their
Speaker 1: best hitter, have moved yet another hitter from their roster
Speaker 1: or their roster Christopher Morrel? Is this it for Christopher Morel?
Speaker 2: How is it already not it?
Speaker 1: Christ What KBO team is Christopher Morell on next year? Patrick?
Speaker 2: I I don't think he is. I think I don't
Speaker 2: think he's enough to play in the KBO.
Speaker 3: He turns twenty seven in two days. Uh, it's been
Speaker 3: the ultimate will fix this guy? Yes guy for about
Speaker 3: five years now. His debut season with the Cubs is
Speaker 3: still as someone who lives in Chicago, it was. It
Speaker 3: was moral mania for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: They called him straight from double A, didn't they too?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Correctly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he put up a Baseball Reference War one and
Speaker 3: a half or two and a half Baseball Reference War
Speaker 3: in his first two seasons.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: His career Reference War now is one point one.
Speaker 1: So he's done the Gordon Beckham basically, Yes.
Speaker 2: Sure, although he didn't he didn't last as long as go.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Utility and field air value.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Beckham had some defensive utility at least down the street.
Speaker 3: He could he could stand at second. He could do
Speaker 3: well defensively a second baseball having a six d psyeh.
Speaker 1: And uh, the rich keep getting richer in terms of
Speaker 1: the lineup in Sacramento. As the A's have added joys,
Speaker 1: I'm actually another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm upset that you put the team in the
Speaker 3: dock because I would have liked to guess what.
Speaker 2: I had felt like I had to Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 2: hit well in trile I. I mean he was PC
Speaker 2: but he hit well even by PCL standards. I think
Speaker 2: it was like a one to twenty ops plus And sure,
Speaker 2: why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? It's good, A good way to put it.
Speaker 1: It takes us to what to watch and Patrick you
Speaker 1: have picked.
Speaker 2: I no longer have to explain this because we've talked
Speaker 2: at length on both these clubs. But like Athletics, Giants
Speaker 2: just feels like there's gonna be a lot of energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah for good, for ill, mostly for ILL.
Speaker 1: In San Francisco or Sacramento.
Speaker 2: It is in San Francisco better, it would be weirder
Speaker 2: and dumber. Yeah, if it were in Sacramento. But I
Speaker 2: you know, like, if you do not care about the
Speaker 2: results of the baseball game, this one will be like
Speaker 2: has the most chance of entertaining you. I'm not even
Speaker 2: gonna look up the pictures, don'tkay.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter for these two teams. It really
Speaker 1: doesn't matter Colin Colin. I thought Colin was gonna pick
Speaker 1: the White Sox. I left the White Sox for Colin.
Speaker 1: But well, they're playing the Guardians and these it's like
Speaker 1: a divisional showdown of sorts.
Speaker 3: You're You're right, it is. I didn't. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to carry on the Craig tradition. And honestly, when I
Speaker 3: when I was looking before either of you had, I
Speaker 3: didn't want to be first to the doc because I'm
Speaker 3: the guest. But I looked at the dock and then
Speaker 3: I looked at the matchups and I said, this is
Speaker 3: the most interesting matter to me. I just maybe I'm
Speaker 3: just too much of a Tiger's believer. Still, Tigers Yankees, Uh,
Speaker 3: you get Garrett Cole against Ron ber Veldez tonight. Uh,
Speaker 3: even if Ronbervelda isn't good, you at least have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to see a bench clearing brawl potentially with Ronbervelda's
Speaker 3: on the mound.
Speaker 1: Uh, Blumber Valdez hitting Jazz Chisham. And just like the.
Speaker 3: Tuesday, you get Carlos Shordan against Casey Mize. Wednesday, Ryan
Speaker 3: Weathers and Trek Schouble. So you get treksobl matchups too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the Tigers are playing decently well right now
Speaker 3: and this will be a big test. And the funny
Speaker 3: thing is is that I won't spoil it, but I
Speaker 3: almost my runner up was the game that we put
Speaker 3: for the matchup that we put for siccos.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll start with my actual pick, and I picked
Speaker 1: I'm backed Cardinals. This is the Cardinals fascinate me. Uh
Speaker 1: They're kind of have the same a similar thing to
Speaker 1: the Tigers, where I keep feeling like they're playing well.
Speaker 1: They keep every time I look their six games over
Speaker 1: five hundred because the bullpen is not good. They lost
Speaker 1: two or three to the Twins recently because it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be good. They have not built this team to have
Speaker 1: a good.
Speaker 2: Bullpen, right, but it's not designed, No, it is not.
Speaker 3: But I am like.
Speaker 1: Fascinated by like how like Andre Polante give like Dustin
Speaker 1: may face like the twenty sixth best lineup in baseball
Speaker 1: and got knocked around after facing the thirtieth and the
Speaker 1: twenty ninth and pitching well. So he did not pitch
Speaker 1: well against the Royals. All the ball was flying there
Speaker 1: the Cards er winning twelve ten. He won't pitch in
Speaker 1: the series, but you will get like the Cardinals just
Speaker 1: kind of keep The Cardinals are like they feel like
Speaker 1: a college basketball team that's just like trying to run
Speaker 1: out the clock. Like they're just like they're up seven
Speaker 1: and they're just like.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a rotation full of NPCs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, not not very entice. I mean, people
Speaker 3: are gonna listen to this after but tonight Meryl Kelly
Speaker 3: against Andre Polante, Yeah that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dra is just cringing at the idea of that.
Speaker 1: It will be the like the least pleasant five to
Speaker 1: five to four game you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 1: Like it won't even be a slug fest. It will
Speaker 1: just be a like first and third with one out
Speaker 1: every inning and sometimes they only get one run in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's an revenge game.
Speaker 3: Yes he is. But we haven't talked about the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: yet on this episode, So I did want to mention
Speaker 3: just because of his start the other day. But like,
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone expected Zach Gallon to rebound, but
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone even expected him to be as
Speaker 3: bad as he's been.
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of did, honestly, was not good.
Speaker 3: I know I expected more like okay last year, maybe
Speaker 3: a little worse, not like worst pitcher in baseball like
Speaker 3: level Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like obviously is hurt. He's one of their better starters.
Speaker 1: Ryan Nelson's hurt.
Speaker 2: Like I.
Speaker 1: Think they're so in a playoff spot somehow.
Speaker 3: So Yeah, better than I think anyone expected.
Speaker 2: Definitely, when we were doing the free agent fifty, Craig
Speaker 2: and Ginny and I we were just like, we can
Speaker 2: push Collon down further, right, we can keep he kept,
Speaker 2: like I remember looking at where everyone else had him,
Speaker 2: and we're just like this guy, Yeah, keep coming back.
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks one game over five hundred.
Speaker 1: One game back in the wild Who is the third Wildcard?
Speaker 1: Padres Up?
Speaker 3: Cubs are the third one Cup.
Speaker 1: Sorry, changed, but they'll probably change by the time you
Speaker 1: hear this.
Speaker 2: The team with the fifth best run differential in baseball,
Speaker 2: the Chicago Cups.
Speaker 3: The Cubs are in the third Wild Cards, bought one
Speaker 3: half game beat up on the Padres, Marlins and Nationals.
Speaker 1: If you care about such things as will we all
Speaker 1: know the time by the time you hear it. Leonol
Speaker 1: Messi has just broken the World Cup goalscoring record by
Speaker 1: running onto a squared ball at the edge of the
Speaker 1: eighteen yard box and hitting it with his left foot.
Speaker 1: That girl, I've seen him score probably one hundred times.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about the World Cup in the banter,
Speaker 3: just because I know how much Patrick loves it, and
Speaker 3: I told him.
Speaker 2: Maybe he did. I've already blocked it out.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, and say we will move on to our game,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure Patrick will enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Wait, we didn't talk, sickos. We didn't talk.
Speaker 1: I knows you're right. We had to really taken the
Speaker 1: tradition of skipping straight to the game with forgetting sicks.
Speaker 1: As crag Off of was, if Cubs and Mets, I
Speaker 1: will pick my team, but not for something I actually
Speaker 1: want to watch. The Cubs are in a wildcard spot.
Speaker 1: The Mets are not. They're not. They just played two
Speaker 1: awful games against the Phillies after winning the Thursday game,
Speaker 1: and they're weird Friday off day series because of the
Speaker 1: Brazil Haiti World Cup game, I think in Philadelphia. So
Speaker 1: you're getting some better pictures. You're getting Nolan McLain, that's
Speaker 1: about it. You're getting like Javier Asad because that's s's
Speaker 1: in the Cubs rotation right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wednesday, Assad and Manaya.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just love aesthetically. I love when these teams play.
Speaker 3: I think that the unit, it's a good uniform matchup.
Speaker 3: It would be better for from for the aesthetics. Is
Speaker 3: that Wrigley. Uh, just the backdrop of that game, the
Speaker 3: game that will be played before people listen is showed against,
Speaker 3: which is one in a messed up way. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then Edward Cabrera and McLean and you know for all
Speaker 3: of the issues the stress that they caused, Jeffrey, you know,
Speaker 3: when when I watch the Mets, I still get to
Speaker 3: watch one Soto in that.
Speaker 1: They don't cause me that much stress. Frankly, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like when the Mets and Cups play, they should
Speaker 2: bring back the retro TV screen like they did for
Speaker 2: the White Sox. That would every game should have eighties
Speaker 2: TV graphics.
Speaker 1: Yes, fran he is still alive. Get get fran Healey
Speaker 1: back in the booth.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, be careful what you wish for,
Speaker 3: because someone will create an AI Harry carry Yeah, something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: And that takes us to our game. We're doing another
Speaker 1: round of I Am d MLB because we have.
Speaker 2: Just want to as this game starts, I just want
Speaker 2: to note set expectations for our listeners. I am the
Speaker 2: world's biggest underdog at this timent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to like.
Speaker 1: Like I did specifically go to the I m dB
Speaker 1: two fifty to pick a few of these to try
Speaker 1: to give you a better shot. Right, So, a movie
Speaker 1: you have watched at some point in the there's nothing. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's one movie here that's probably well. Two, there's the
Speaker 1: two that's probably a little now, Three, three, probably three
Speaker 1: that I was say, legitimately tricky maybe, but the rest
Speaker 1: of them I tried to be.
Speaker 2: It's not about the tricky. It's about whether I've ever
Speaker 2: heard of the film before.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm a fan. I'm not a fan of
Speaker 3: the pressure. Hopefully I can live up to mind.
Speaker 2: Well that's why I did it. Yeah, my movie, that's
Speaker 2: the only pleasure I can take out of this is
Speaker 2: just like putting you on edge before you just destroy me.
Speaker 1: An expos and Rockies, hitter who finished at three hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety nine home runs, and a very long dinner
Speaker 1: with Wallace Sean.
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, yep with who I had No my dinner
Speaker 3: with uh.
Speaker 2: Galga all right.
Speaker 1: Dinner with Andres Galarraga.
Speaker 3: Y who's another hundre?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, nothing for the under right?
Speaker 1: There a White Sox Slugger from the two thousands and
Speaker 1: Jim Jarmush tries his hand at a zombie film. Jim j.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 4: Jim Jarmush?
Speaker 3: I can I can like see the DVD cover and
Speaker 3: I can't think of what the name of it is.
Speaker 3: And White Sox Slugger from the two thousands is so
Speaker 3: incredibly vague.
Speaker 2: There's I hate zombiole, by the way, let.
Speaker 1: Me know this zombie film.
Speaker 3: But ah, Jim jarm I, I can't.
Speaker 2: Get there good because I tapped out, like the minute.
Speaker 1: It's the dead, don't German die?
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: I was trying to go the other direction, and I
Speaker 3: was like, it's going to be the name, last name
Speaker 3: into the title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they very I try to mix it up
Speaker 1: a little bit. A two time All Star Closer for
Speaker 1: the Reds and a Hiomia Zaki film you should definitely watch,
Speaker 1: but maybe only once.
Speaker 2: Uh what's his name? Danny Graves of the Fireflies.
Speaker 1: Yes, Danny of the Fireflies too, refreshers on Colin.
Speaker 2: Now, I was gonna say kids, but only I watched it.
Speaker 3: Not really a kid's movie.
Speaker 1: It's an animated it's an animated film. Yes, A sinkerballer
Speaker 1: for the two thousand and four Red Sox World Series winner,
Speaker 1: and a Kerrosawa film based on a Maximum Gorky play.
Speaker 2: Uh, Derek ky Low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Ryan Derek.
Speaker 1: But close enough. You got like you got to It's
Speaker 1: close enough for me.
Speaker 3: I can get there. You're just getting there a lot faster, Patrick,
Speaker 3: You're I feel like I've been set up here in something.
Speaker 1: A soft tossing lefty who pitched sixteen years in the
Speaker 1: majors and won one hundred and thirty three games. And
Speaker 1: yet another DiCaprio SCORSESI film.
Speaker 3: Randy Wolf of Wall Street.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was just about to get there on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: I was thinking I was like Jamie Moyer, but I
Speaker 3: was like, no, that jam Moore pitched way longer.
Speaker 1: Than that, A player who spent twenty years in the bigs,
Speaker 1: but you probably don't remember anything he did after the Rangers.
Speaker 1: And a John Houston film featuring Humphrey Bogart Looking for Gold.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know this, I think I know the movie,
Speaker 2: but like, I can't come up with the player that matches.
Speaker 2: It same, The Treasure of Ruben Sierra Madre.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, there's four left, you need them all.
Speaker 3: Ruven Sierra played twenty years, twenty years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did he remember anything he did after the Rangers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he became one of those Yankees guys that
Speaker 2: like they brought on for no good reason who couldn't
Speaker 2: hit or field. And then just like once the Yankees
Speaker 2: sad like seven other teams also gave him that scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The nineteen eighty six World Series MVP and the Clark
Speaker 1: Gable Claudette Colbert film that more or less invented the
Speaker 1: screwball comedy genre.
Speaker 2: It happened one Ray Night.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would not have goten Ray Night. Eighty six
Speaker 3: World Series MVP was was lost on me. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: Colin you that's all right, Patrick, Just like.
Speaker 1: Some reason, The Defensive Wiz in center Field mostly for
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, and the first Michael Hannak film to
Speaker 1: win the Palm dor.
Speaker 4: Okay, which film Defensive Wits for the Blue Jays?
Speaker 3: Is it Devon White Ribbon?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Job, I figure's Devon whiteams Like, oh that's a ball
Speaker 2: player with too many names. That movie's not coming all right,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: This is the one that I would think is patently unfair.
Speaker 3: You've gotten is patently unfair? You said, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I think Oballer, who had back to back nineteen win
Speaker 1: seasons for the Yankees, and at least when while Salvador
Speaker 1: Dolly short film that famously opens the man slicing open
Speaker 1: a women's eye.
Speaker 2: M Oh boy, I'm gonna enjoy the silence here for
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 3: Well, is this something you watched recently? I don't know
Speaker 3: this movie.
Speaker 2: It gives give the listeners home some time to blow
Speaker 2: it over before you say the answer that neither of
Speaker 2: us will get.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, un Chen men Wang Andolou, what's the movie?
Speaker 1: Un Chen Andolou?
Speaker 3: No, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: It's never heard of it.
Speaker 3: I think it's.
Speaker 1: Binwell's first film. It's a silent film from nineteen twenty.
Speaker 1: It's like if you've gone to film school, you've probably
Speaker 1: seen it seventeen times because very makes sense, famous for
Speaker 1: film theory stuff. And our last one will wrap it
Speaker 1: up with an outfielder for the moneyball is and a
Speaker 1: Sydney LeMay adaptation of a famous Eugene O'Neil play.
Speaker 2: I is it?
Speaker 3: I might I might be helping here. I know you
Speaker 3: guys did this. The other is is it tear It's
Speaker 3: long Terrence long uh kiss good night or something like that.
Speaker 2: Long.
Speaker 3: I don't know. The movie is one of the things
Speaker 3: I should know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I know.
Speaker 1: The movie is Terrence long Day's Journey in Tonight, Long
Speaker 1: Day's Journey in to Night.
Speaker 3: I've never seen that movie neither.
Speaker 1: It's a good play.
Speaker 3: It's pretty.
Speaker 1: It's got Katherine Hepbird and James Robard and Dean Stockwell
Speaker 1: for some reason, very young Dean Ston.
Speaker 3: I love this game. I love when you guys play
Speaker 3: it when I'm listening, because the last episode I was
Speaker 3: like screaming the answer and.
Speaker 1: In the hot seat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different when you're in the hot seat. It's
Speaker 3: like you're watching Jeopardy. You're watching Who Wants to Be
Speaker 3: a Millionaire, and you can answer them at your TV.
Speaker 3: I can answer them at my my podcast. But then
Speaker 3: I'm here on the recording and I freeze up.
Speaker 1: Good John Patrick, but regardless, thanks for joining us, Colin,
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