WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.719 Welcome to episode five fifty six of five and done. 2 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.840 It is Monday, June twenty second. I'm your host, Jeffrey 3 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:43.560 pattern Ostrow, joined unusually by Patrick Dubuque and Colin whit 4 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.479 Church of the Action Network. Craig is, of course on vacation, 5 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.640 enjoying whatever he's doing on vacation. 6 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:52.759 With two days feel bad. I realized I have no 7 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:53.600 idea where he is. 8 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:55.600 No, I don't know. It's fine, I mentioned I don't 9 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.880 think he wants us to know. Yeah there, Yeah, I 10 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.600 assume he's not going to listen to this, so we'll 11 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.519 probably say we can say whatever we want about Craig. 12 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.519 Yes, all right, So usually, con as you know, since 13 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.319 you were a regular listener, we start with banter. But 14 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.239 instead I'm going to just ask you a question that 15 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:13.879 we did not talk about ahead of time. I'm gonna 16 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.480 play on the spot. What is, in your opinion, the 17 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.959 worst take that you have ever heard on this show? 18 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:20.840 The worst take? 19 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.400 Yeah, the worst take. Oh, it can be about baseball. 20 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.519 It can be you know, pre baseball banter. 21 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.400 Yeah, my mind immediately went to some of the movie takes, 22 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:33.560 and my my brain. The one contribution I'll bring to 23 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.239 the show that similar to Craig is that my brain 24 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:38.920 is broken. So remembering any of these takes. 25 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.040 I think the most famous bad take is Craig not 26 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:41.760 liking soup. 27 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.719 Yeah, that is a bad take. A I messaged Craig 28 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.799 a few weeks ago to make fun of Jeffrey because 29 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.200 he said, you guys were talking about the White Sox 30 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.120 and he said, oh, they they fired all their bullets 31 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.200 and then started listing off the prospects that they're going 32 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.879 to call out pretty soon. And so I don't know 33 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:02.000 if that's necessarily a bad take, but that's just the 34 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.200 first thing that came to my mind, not that he 35 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.280 was necessarily wrong. It just was a funny confluence of 36 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.080 events there where he said, oh, they pretty much fired 37 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:14.520 all their bullets. Well, Bradon Montgomery and Hagen Smith, but 38 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:18.680 you know, so no, unfortunately, don't have a good answer. 39 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.400 Maybe it'll pop up to me in an hour from 40 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:21.560 now in the middle of the show and I'll just 41 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:22.240 interrupt you guys. 42 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.199 Yeah, it just be like, hold on, hold on, hold on, Yes, 43 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:27.719 back in twenty twenty four, you were wrong. 44 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.680 Yeah, I actually didn't even I was never a big 45 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.840 podcast listener until maybe a little more than a year ago, 46 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.479 I started going to the gym regularly and music doesn't 47 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.960 do it for me. I'm not a big guy, so 48 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.439 I needed podcasts, and I would listen to It's I'm 49 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.879 I'm also extremely picky about my podcast, so take that 50 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:49.639 as a compliment if you want that. I listened to 51 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.159 this one, and I would listen to the No Longer 52 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.080 with us Athletic podcast that Sam Miller was on with 53 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:01.120 Andy and Grant, and those were my only two baseball podcasts. 54 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.719 So I was thinking this week about how being on 55 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:05.960 this podcast is actually a detriment to me because I'm 56 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.560 going to go to the gym tomorrow and have to 57 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.199 hear your I either listened to this and I already 58 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.319 know everything you guys are gonna say, or I gotta 59 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:13.280 find another podcast. 60 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:15.759 As long as you make it good, you can live 61 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:16.159 the high. 62 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:18.759 It'll depend on how I do in the game at 63 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:19.080 the end. 64 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:22.960 Well, we got a show to get to before that, 65 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.360 and we'll start. Since I mean, I was gonna do 66 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.000 this anyway, but it's convenient since Colin is on our 67 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.319 first topic, central planning, there's gonna be a theme running 68 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:35.520 for the first two segments, and that does anyone want 69 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:40.319 to win the AL Central. No, the White Sox have 70 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.000 run into the Yankees and Tigers. I get. I don't 71 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.800 know if the Tigers are good. Obviously they lost to 72 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.039 a three to the Yankees, which fine. They lost to 73 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.520 or three to the Tigers, which again I don't know 74 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:50.360 if the Tigers are good. 75 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.680 No, they were swept by the Tigers. 76 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:58.960 They were swept by the Tigers. They yeah, yes, that 77 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.879 puts somewhat. Now I have games or four games over 78 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.080 five hundred two. 79 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:04.000 They're just two. 80 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:05.960 Oh, they're just two? Are they still in the lead 81 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:06.759 in the ale Central? 82 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.800 Now the Garden amount of losses as the Guardians. But 83 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.319 the Guardians to play two more games than that. 84 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.520 Right, fair enough? So you see, I put together this 85 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:15.719 agenda without looking at the they have. 86 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.920 They have. The White Sox currently have the best run 87 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.720 defferential in the ALE Central at minus four. 88 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.360 You're already sitting in well for Craig. 89 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.600 I know I was gonna bring it up if you didn't. 90 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.480 But yes, it is very it is very typical. I 91 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:35.600 mean White Sox fans for weeks we're talking about this Gaunt, 92 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.680 this June Gauntlet, Phillies, Braves, Dodgers, Yankees. Of course they 93 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.360 won both of their games against the Braves. The third 94 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.959 one got rained out. They won two of three from 95 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.160 the Dodgers. They lost two of three to the Phillies 96 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.439 and then ended by losing two of three to the 97 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.279 Yankees and then promptly got swept by the Tigers. And 98 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.279 now they've got Cleveland coming up. But they do have 99 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.399 Kyle tielback today. 100 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.399 Oh, very exciting. They kept them from the whatever weird 101 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:02.959 leg exercises he was doing. 102 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:08.199 Yes, hopefully he was hitting extremely well in his rehab. 103 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.399 For whatever that's worth. Catcher has been a black hole 104 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:14.720 for the entire season. They sent Edgar Carro down instead 105 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:18.199 of Drew Romo, which is predictable but also notable because 106 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:19.560 of the respect. 107 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.160 So I will point out Collins gave me shit about 108 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.160 Brady Montgomery, who has like a six hundred ops. 109 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:26.040 Hey, well I was. I was when he was still 110 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.720 in Triple A. But yeah, I was talking about this 111 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.079 on our Action Network podcast this morning with my co 112 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:39.319 host Sean Zarrillo about the Tigers. I don't know, we 113 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.399 jump around this division or whatever, but like everyone assumes 114 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:44.160 the Tigers are going to sell, They're going to trade Schooble, 115 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.079 They probably are going to trade Schooble. I don't think 116 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.160 they should. I think that this team is going to 117 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:50.319 get healthier. 118 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.920 And far out of like I get that that far 119 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:53.240 out of it. 120 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.480 I mean when you think about thirteen games back in 121 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.399 the end of August, seven games back and it's June, 122 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.360 and the question that I have, the thing that I 123 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:03.279 can't figure out, and Jeffrey, maybe you can answer this. 124 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:07.879 They claimed James Outman on waivers. They called him Trey 125 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:08.639 Cruz the other. 126 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:09.319 Day, they sure did. 127 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:11.600 Where the hell is Max Clark? Why is it Max 128 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:12.360 Clark up yet? 129 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.000 I think Trey Cruse is literally the last Connecticut Tiger 130 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.199 that will ever get called up, Oh wow, to the majors. 131 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.120 I'm pretty sure I saw him in twenty nineteen there. Yeah, 132 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.160 it might even been earlier in macu he's like twenty six, 133 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.399 but uh yeah, I don't know. Like I looked into 134 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.439 Clark fairly early on for a ten pack, like I 135 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.360 was doing like guys that might get called up soon, 136 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:34.680 and it was Clark and Emmanuel Rodriguez. And Emmanuel Rodriguez 137 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:42.120 predictably got hurt. But Clark like he's been fine, like 138 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.199 he's given back a little bit of the not even 139 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.920 the given back a little bit of the hard hit 140 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:52.720 and more of the directionality of his like late twenty 141 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.079 twenty five breakout, which is not unusual. But he still 142 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:56.800 looks like a guy that would come up and be 143 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.600 I don't know, like ajing Ish for them, probably like 144 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.480 just the guy that's gonna hit like five percent better 145 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:05.360 than theague average and play. He's probably a better defensive 146 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.759 center fielder than you ing is. And they've had so 147 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.720 many outfield issue. I mean, they've had a lot of 148 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:14.040 injury issues up and down that roster, but like outfield 149 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.759 specifically has been like he had to play like Riley 150 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.399 Green and center. He's got to be better than Matt Erling, 151 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.000 Rightnzi Perez right, I think Perez is hurt. 152 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:22.959 Yeah, he got a. 153 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.040 Yeah, that's right. We talked about the last ye. I 154 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:32.160 don't like, there's no your past. If you care about 155 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.040 such thing as your past, Super two, there's probably no 156 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.519 point in keeping him down for like a pp I picked. 157 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:42.959 You're gonna get one from McGonagall anyway. This year he's 158 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.199 gonna win Ale Rookie of the Year. And yeah, like 159 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.519 they've got to decide. Obviously, Torres just got hurt again, 160 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:51.560 has gone back on the aisle. They kind of got 161 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.079 to decide like sooner rather than later, And like Scooble, 162 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.720 I don't he hasn't been great in his first two 163 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:02.000 starts back, but there's nothing that suggests it's anything other 164 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:03.720 than he didn't pitch for a month and they rush 165 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:09.399 him back off one rehab. So yeah, I guess they 166 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.079 they could, like you can't really count them out, but 167 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.079 there's so the problem is they're already seven games back, 168 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.759 and they have the same problem as the White Sox 169 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:21.759 and the Guardians, where they have like three good headers 170 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:22.600 and two good pitchers. 171 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:24.959 And the thing with the Tigers is that you know, 172 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.879 they've been playing better for a while, right, Yeah, I 173 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.079 feel like I'm constantly hearing about how they're playing better. 174 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.720 They've been they've been better. There are a game that 175 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.519 happened up up on the Royals. Yeah, they haven't actually moved. 176 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.039 It's very weird. There's still eleven games under five hundred. 177 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.759 It's we're halfway through the season almost. 178 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:44.360 Yeah, they're five games out of a playoff spot. 179 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.200 I mean everyone playoffs. 180 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.200 Yeah, the Angels are seven games out of the playoffs. 181 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.240 We haven't even talked about the Twins, who are actually 182 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.440 have actually played as well as Patrick thinks. The Tigers 183 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.799 have played lately yea and are back to four games under. 184 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.240 I think so they're right again. They have all of 185 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.320 the same problems as all of these teams, but they do. 186 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.240 They got Roy Lewis back from Triple A and he's 187 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.879 kept hitting homers since he was called up basically, and 188 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.480 then like they like Joe Ryan is quietly just having 189 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.960 the Joe Ryan season. I know there were injury like 190 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:17.960 injury concerns. 191 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.480 It's really easy to be quiet in Minnesota. 192 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.679 It is, It's true, and like it's it's also the 193 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.559 Twins also had did like the Yankees run it back thing, 194 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:32.200 but with the Twins lineup and roster, which it is 195 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.480 what it is. But like again, they have Buckston healthy, 196 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.399 they have Lewis healthy. These might be temporary things. Lu 197 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.120 Keishel has been hitting better lately. 198 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.120 None of their none of their young pictures seem to 199 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.720 have taken a step for They've got all these Zebbie 200 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:50.200 Matthews and kind of free lip and like none of 201 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:51.039 them are Andrew. 202 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:55.240 Morris Clyp's been okay. But also like, uh, they had Kendrie. 203 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.639 I'm gonna I remember if it's because Kendry Rojas not 204 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:02.399 very annoying. Kendrick Rojas was up and not particularly good 205 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.240 and then got hurt. Like they do. They have these guys, 206 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.039 they can these like four starter types they can cycle through. 207 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:14.039 But I do feel like we're maybe like a few 208 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:17.000 weeks removed from Cody Clemens like clearly being their second 209 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:23.039 best hitter, and now they've gotten enough other guys hot, 210 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.519 he's like their fourth best hitter, which is an improvement, 211 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:27.320 I guess. 212 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:31.440 And well, yeah, it's weird. Like Matt Trueblood wrote a 213 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.360 piece on the Twins for us for the site this morning, 214 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.759 and one of the things he notes is that like 215 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:39.000 essentially they shuffled the deck about a month ago. You know, 216 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.039 they sent down Lewis, they sent down was it Laartin 217 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:47.759 no Wallner they sent down Yeah, after being like basically 218 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.320 the worst player baseball for the first month, and they 219 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.799 just brought them all back. But then just like basically 220 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.559 shuffled which positions they were playing. Yes, so Roy's Lewis 221 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.240 is now playing first, Yeah, Cody Clemens is now like 222 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:05.799 kind of playing right or left, and it's it's kind 223 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.519 of worked defensively, like none of these guys have any 224 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:14.200 business playing the positions they're playing. It's interesting like they 225 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:17.360 this this Twins team could have just you know, shrugged 226 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.039 right and say what you want about the pole Ads, 227 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.679 but our newest pole ad at least like if there's 228 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.919 one way you can channel the owner's idiotic to drive 229 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.440 to win despite all reason, like this is the way 230 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.080 you do it. He isn't actually like he's just forcing 231 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.679 them to keep working. Yeah, you know you're gonna stay 232 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.679 here until five. We're gonna try and figure something out. 233 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:41.879 At least they're trying stuff. 234 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.240 It's right, they don't really have anything to trade, Like 235 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.440 Buxton keep saying he wants to be a Twin for life, 236 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:52.200 so that kind of they probably will trade Joe Ryan. 237 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.399 I just don't know if it'll be at the deadline. 238 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.840 And again they can they can make a run here. 239 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:01.600 But like Todd Bradley has settled in as like the 240 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.600 Fi like the fine version of it. He's still getting 241 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.080 up too many home runs again, but like he's been fine, 242 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:12.440 Bailey Ober has been exactly Bailey Ober. You know, pre 243 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.759 Lip has probably pitched a little better than his era, 244 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.000 but he kind of looks a lot like TODJ. Bradley 245 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.960 as well, uh, they already dfates. I mean with Richardson, 246 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.759 he's back in Toronto. Like again, Zebbie Matthews keeps throwing 247 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.279 harder and keeps not pitching well, like Mickabel has been hurt, 248 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:29.279 but he just. 249 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:30.039 Had a step back too. 250 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.440 I think, yeah, it's it's also how much you want 251 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.320 to kind of Mackabel down the stretch and like their 252 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.840 bullpen's been good and that's why they I'm describing a 253 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:39.360 four games on your five hundred team. 254 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:45.919 Basically, I feel like the Twins are not that they 255 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:47.879 have a lot to sell, but like they're I feel 256 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:50.320 like they're the team and I don't I'm not as 257 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.320 familiar with I know they've had like this weird ownership 258 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.440 change semi change like situation or whatever. But I feel 259 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.919 like they're the team that uh wants to win the least. 260 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.480 Uh So we'll look for the opportunity to sell whatever 261 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:10.799 they can at the earliest. And but the school thing 262 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.279 is obviously the most fascinating because like the Tigers can 263 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:18.600 absolutely compete, but like, do they want to lose scoob 264 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.919 belfo They're not going to resign Schooble, so do they 265 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.639 go for it with him or do they and if 266 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.480 they trade him, that is just you know, conceding the season, 267 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.720 a season that might not be lost. And we haven't 268 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:35.320 even mentioned the the actual division leaders. Cleveland the suddenly 269 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.519 most beat like they had the latter, Bazana, Ramirez. Now 270 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.679 two of those guys are down. I think angel uh 271 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.360 are on. How Martinez, I think it's hurt. 272 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.080 He snuck his injury in on a day where Ramire 273 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:53.960 has already got injured. So yeah, but like Stephen Quan 274 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:54.960 unfortunately not hurt. 275 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:55.759 Yeah. 276 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.279 Yeah, they were the healthiest team in baseball up until 277 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.200 the last week. It's very interesting it all happened at once. 278 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.200 It's a long season, as we like to say, it's. 279 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.639 A long season. I feel like we were talking about 280 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:11.960 them being like middle of the pack in DRC like 281 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.399 three weeks ago. They're twenty eighth. 282 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.879 Now, like they're giving a lot more at bats to 283 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:25.159 like Gabriel Arius and Khalil Watson. Khalil Watson, Yeah, to her. 284 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.840 Fairchilds and who I still don't believe is a real 285 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.200 MLB player. But I keep saying in box scores, you 286 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:33.200 can't have a PD in baseball. D Helpin. 287 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.519 Like they're I mean again, they're kind of back to 288 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.399 just being the Guardians we know and tolerate, Like Parker 289 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.039 Messic continues to be quite good, you know, Gavin Williams 290 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.000 has been, you know, not as good as last year, 291 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:51.159 but fine. And then they just keep like finding enough pitching, 292 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.120 like again, Slate Chacconi has a foreign a happy ra 293 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:58.399 Joey Cantillo has a four r's. You know, these are 294 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.200 better things to have when you're off average as opposed 295 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.639 to what it is now. But they of all of 296 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.320 these teams, they feel the most like they can win 297 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.240 eighty five games. 298 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.200 Well, it helps when you have the only team that 299 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.519 hasn't missed to start. Yeah, right, there's they have five starters. 300 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.120 It's worked. It's good because they don't have a sixth starter. 301 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:21.720 They just got Sabrowski back from the i L. He 302 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:25.919 is this year's random pop up Cleveland reliever who turns 303 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:26.919 in a really good season. 304 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.519 Yeah. He's a fun he's a fun pitcher when it 305 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.639 comes down, he's very very Logan Henderson Codd. Yeah. Yeah. 306 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.080 The picture that has made the most appearances for them 307 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.600 out of the pen is Patrick's own, Matt Festa. 308 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:44.080 Yes, I would have guess Hunter Gatis, but. 309 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.399 Yeah, yeah, they've they got there getting a good Colin 310 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.919 Holderman season, which seems to happen every other year for 311 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.799 whatever team has Colin Holderman, and they pick the right year, 312 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.639 I guess. You know, Kate Smith is one of the 313 00:15:55.639 --> 00:16:00.120 best believers in baseball, so that it is against a 314 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.519 Guardians team and that's probably as we've seen in recent 315 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.360 years and not in the Al Central, but. 316 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:09.759 Probably is again this year. 317 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.279 Yeah, it probably isn't. But are any of these teams buyers, 318 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.240 I guess, because that could make a big difference here. 319 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.240 I I've talked about this a lot in regards to 320 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.759 the White Sox obviously, and I could see them doing 321 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:24.360 the like I feel like we've seen like the Pittsburghs 322 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:25.559 and Cincinnatis of the world. 323 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:30.759 Make this Isiah and you know two middle relievers. 324 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:32.840 The name that I the name that I brought up 325 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.639 because it's pitching, is they'll trade like Michael Lorenzen. 326 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:36.039 Right. 327 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.519 Yeah, But so they've they're gonna plug one of their 328 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.440 black holes in their lineup with Kyle Teal. Hopefully they've 329 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.320 gotten way above water production out of guys like Tristan 330 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:53.559 Peters and like Randall Gritschuk has been a fine platoon 331 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:59.039 pick up for them, but they have no pitching beyond 332 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.279 the four guys were throwing right now, and two of 333 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:02.799 the four guys who were throwing right now are Anthony 334 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.880 k and Eric Fetti. They're bullpenning every fifth day until 335 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.000 Noah Schultz comes back, which should be next weekend, and 336 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.240 even that has been questionable. Since he made his debut, 337 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.880 the bullpen has been better than expected. Grant Taylor's been 338 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.039 one of the best relievers in baseball. Brian Hudson, Anthony 339 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.640 Domingus is incredibly sir Anthony Domingez where he can have 340 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.440 blow ups like yesterday, but he's like fine in a 341 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.200 setup role. I just I think this offense is as 342 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.640 good as advertised. I don't think they'll have the pitching 343 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.440 to hold up down the stretch. Maybe they trade for, 344 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.759 you know, again, Lorenzen types, but I don't think any 345 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.920 of these teams end up being buyers. I think the 346 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:45.880 team that should be buyers is Detroit. They won't be 347 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:51.799 and yeah, everyone else will just do cursory. 348 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:54.240 With the White Sox lineup, and I think we saw 349 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.759 us a little bit against the Tigers. Is when you 350 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:02.000 know they're reliant on Monkri and Vargas and Murakami when 351 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.279 he's healthy hitting home runs because they don't really they'll walk, 352 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.599 they don't. They're not keeping the line moving to use 353 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:10.400 like an announcer cliche, right like, they have the guys 354 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:14.480 that get on base and Antonachi and Madrap, but they're 355 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.319 really reliant on the three run homer to an extent. 356 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.519 And when those guys aren't, like, these guys hit a 357 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.359 lot of homers, right like, they're all on pace for 358 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.559 thirty plus I mean Murakami, min Nick because he's hurt, 359 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.359 but they're all on pace for like thirty plus homers. 360 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:31.359 But they're so reliant on that that you know you're 361 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.160 gonna lose some four to three games in that when 362 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.759 they're not when they're striking out of they're three hundred 363 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.200 and sixty two feet flyouts. 364 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.640 Yeah. You know, we talk about the White Sox and 365 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.599 getting a fourth starter like more than any other team 366 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:47.559 though it feels like they need a third starter, they 367 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.440 need a playoff starter. R Yeah, and they're not going 368 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:51.960 to do that. 369 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.640 We see Davis Martin kind of take a step back 370 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.720 a little bit, which was expected. Sean Burk's been great 371 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.519 when pitching ahead of behind a behind an opener. He 372 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.039 threw a I don't even know if there's a term 373 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.480 for that. He threw a complete game behind an opener. 374 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:10.440 Uh against the I think it was the one game 375 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:16.440 they won against the Yankees. But yeah, I yeah, they 376 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:18.359 have the second most homers in baseball as a team. 377 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.319 Only the Yankees have hit more home runs than this team. Uh, 378 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.359 they have a complete enough offense. But yeah, it's very 379 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.960 They're going to go through these really funky periods, like 380 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.480 you said, Jeff, because you know, they don't have those 381 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.039 blind movers like you said. 382 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.599 This team really could use, which is a. 383 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.480 Shame I've been saying that I have. 384 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:41.880 In the next segment, I've heard I've. 385 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:43.640 Heard Sonny Gray mentioned if Boston. 386 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.920 Yeah, he said he will have a common He's a 387 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.640 no trader. He makes it okay more comed he although 388 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:51.240 he has said he was willing to wave it. 389 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:53.279 Yeah, I'm not sure if it will wave it for 390 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:54.000 the White Sox. 391 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:58.680 Because there Hagan Smith is now hurt in the minors. Uh, 392 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:02.799 Tanner McDougall is hurt. Who was kind of the guy 393 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:04.960 that people were expecting to pop up If it wasn't 394 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.880 Hagen Smith, Jonathan Cannon hasn't been any good down there, 395 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:08.279 you know. 396 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.400 After Jonathan Cannon is still in the organization. 397 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.039 Yeah, he uh competed for the fifth started training. 398 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:16.400 And didn't get it, which tells you something. 399 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.000 Yes, and he's been bad. Shane Smith was, I know, 400 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.279 Patrick's mentioned him. He was terrible when he got sent 401 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.960