WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see, something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:28.800 Welcome to the occult rejects this episode. I got a 5 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:32.359 couple of us joining us today. I got JJ Vance, 6 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:33.600 not the vice president. 7 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:34.399 What is going on? Sir? 8 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:38.560 W a uh Nick krieks, Sir. I appreciate the invite 9 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.439 as always, fellow cult rejects, looking forward to the conversation. 10 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.320 Always remember talking some weird cult business. I said, now 11 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.840 you're talking my language, so JJ Vance, host of Operations 12 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:52.039 GCD and more notably not the vice president. But yeah, 13 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.920 looking forward to the conversation. Ult a definitely my thing here, 14 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.200 my thing I'll enjoy talking about, especially the ancient alien 15 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:00.000 cargo cult. 16 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:02.920 Say, let's hope some aliens pop up in this show. 17 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.879 Thank you very much for joining us, Jjay, and we 18 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.640 got Jewels from Great Pill joining us today. 19 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:09.480 What is going on? Sir? 20 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.079 How are you? What is man? What's going on? Guys? 21 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:16.959 Getting used to being here uh a lot more often, 22 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.280 so thank you again Nick for having me. Of course, guys, 23 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.519 I'm Jewels. I'm the host of the Great Pill podcast. 24 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:28.799 H ell entomologist, sound scientist. I have a Patreon you 25 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:32.239 can find me there Patreon dot com slash gray Pill podcast. 26 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:33.920 We do a lot of cool stuff over there, so 27 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.079 happy to be here. It's Sunday morning. 28 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.560 Hell yeah, hell yeah. 29 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:41.359 And just real quick from my listeners that are into 30 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.400 Twin Peaks because I've talked about it plenty of times, 31 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.480 go check out Jewels. He's picked up the torch and 32 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.120 he's running with the Twin Peaks now, so please go 33 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:49.280 check out his stuff. 34 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:49.840 If you're into peaks. 35 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.920 I know I got a lot of listeners going deep. Yeah, 36 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.920 so go please check out his show. He covers it 37 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:56.200 and we got hell, let's giant with us. 38 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:56.840 What is going on? 39 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:57.040 Sir? 40 00:01:58.159 --> 00:01:59.280 How's how's it going? 41 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.560 So I'm the Headless John and you can find me 42 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:06.359 on YouTube if you look up our show on Thursday nights. 43 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:10.319 It's where I read your spooky slash creepy emails. We 44 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.759 had to cancel the Trialogus this Sunday because Ethan's father's 45 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.680 in the hospital. So if you guys keep Ethan in 46 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:16.800 your thoughts, that would be great. 47 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.240 So yeah, thank you very much. 48 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.560 Joining any and I actually had somebody hit me up 49 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.000 today telling me that they've had experiences with the Gateway tapes, 50 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:28.879 so trying to get them trying to get them on 51 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:29.120 the show. 52 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:34.000 They're a little but try and we got uh. 53 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:38.759 Julia and Kolbe today together woo always having them both 54 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.599 on obviously, I mean there are cult rejects anyway, but 55 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.400 since they are presenting the topic, you know, introduce them 56 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.400 like that. So please let everybody know where they can 57 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:48.919 find both of your amazing work. 58 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:57.960 Conspiracy Playtime anywhere everywhere, sometimes YouTube, other show disinformation on 59 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.199 hiatus right now, but for the last few months, I 60 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:02.680 think we need to bring it back. 61 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.560 And a weekly shit talking show. Turn to you, my 62 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:13.159 dear Cosmic Peach podcast. If you haven't found me yet, 63 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:17.080 you never will. But I'm excited to be here a 64 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:22.199 cult reject part time. Really excited to dive into some 65 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:23.599 weird cults today. 66 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.039 Oh yeah, so yeah, so what do you got going 67 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:28.199 for us? 68 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.319 Well, you want to go first, or you want me 69 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.840 to go first. We did so we did a series 70 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:35.800 called Into the Culty Verse together. 71 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.280 It was four parts and. 72 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.759 We covered the most obscure cults that we could find. 73 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:46.439 Colby actually found some really interesting ones, which is why 74 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.159 I'm so excited that he's joining me today. But they 75 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:56.639 range anywhere from like Christian cults to esoteric colts to 76 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.159 I don't even know how you would describe Chris Gorbo's guilt, 77 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.039 but satanic I guess. 78 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.360 Kind of like new wave. 79 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:11.560 I don't know, it's Yeah, the last two we'll talk 80 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.719 about are more modern cults, which, like when you throw 81 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:18.519 the Internet into this picture, it just got a little crazier. 82 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.240 And so we did a couple of modern ones. 83 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:23.920 But yeah, we started with the old ones, and I'm 84 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:26.439 sure you're gonna have heard of some of them, but 85 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.519 some of them I doubt So anyway, I don't know 86 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:31.800 you want us to just kind of like run through 87 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.920 and give like a synopsis of each one, because I 88 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:35.879 think you're not doing one of them so that there's 89 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.040 like seven of them. 90 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.759 Yeah, just real quick, like these did you come across 91 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.639 these like in a book or something, or just you 92 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.399 just randomly? You know what I'm saying That this isn't 93 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.120 like is it from Program to Kill or anything like that. 94 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:50.000 I think we kind of intentionally veered away from the 95 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.959 stuff that we usually cover. But the first one I 96 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.279 talk about is gonna kind of pop up throughout your 97 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.199 your history of all the stuff we all talk about 98 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.399 Synanon and so you I imagine you've all heard of 99 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:08.319 that one. Yeah, that's probably out of all seven of them, 100 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:10.399 that might be the one that's like most mainstream. 101 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.920 No, that shit is fucking crazy. 102 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.160 And it's left a hell of an impact to on 103 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:21.199 like modern it's the troubled teen industry. Paris Hilton talked 104 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.800 about it. A lot of these people that go through 105 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:25.959 these I don't know, it's kind of like a Kanye 106 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.480 asque reprogramming, but on a smaller scale. It seems like 107 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.279 for these kids, they just they're out of control. They 108 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.480 got these rich, ely parents and they go out there 109 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:36.759 sometimes they die in the woods. That all came from 110 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.199 like Synanon. So that's I don't know if you want 111 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:41.360 to go first, if you want me. 112 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.839 To go real quick, real quick, I had an Apple 113 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:45.879 over by me when I grew up as a kid, 114 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.079 and before that it was something that was I think 115 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:51.480 associated with Synanon, and like I knew people that ended 116 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:52.800 up like even going there. 117 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:54.399 So I when. 118 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.360 I heard the stories of Apple and what those places 119 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.439 were like, and then I found out what Synonym was 120 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.079 and watched the videos, I'm like, this is the same 121 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.360 thing they told me that's going on, So I mean 122 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:10.600 that style honestly, in therapeutic communities hasn't changed actually, right, 123 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:12.759 and even in regular rehabs, I'll be honest, because of 124 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:14.839 fucking up in the past. I've been in rehabs before. 125 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.360 The way that they do their groups and have other 126 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.879 members run it, it is still based off of that idea. 127 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.480 So talking about it, maybe you should get. 128 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:27.800 I do find it interesting how it's still out there. 129 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.720 Yeah, I find it interesting too. But since we're on 130 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.839 the topic, you should just go ahead and sum it. 131 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:39.319 Up, all right, Well, send it on. It was. 132 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.959 Like the fifties that this one started and the founder 133 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:49.120 he was the name guy named Chuck Diedrich, and he 134 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.600 came from like the east side of the country. But 135 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.800 he kind of had a rough and tumble childhood, ended 136 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.439 up kind of just being a low life adult, and 137 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:05.800 he became a really bad drinker and he entered into AA. 138 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.600 I don't remember what city he was living in. It 139 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.279 was in California. I want to say it was like 140 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.879 more northern than where the Cole ended up, but. 141 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.120 I haven't right here. 142 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:24.680 I had pulled up these these guys. Yeah, now it's 143 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:26.319 taken me to the to the damn webs. 144 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.560 Well, if you get any info just cut on in there. 145 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.279 But he uh, I guess some friends of his were 146 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.199 pretty concerned there you go, that's yes, So they guided 147 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:42.079 him into you know, the meetings, and he got up 148 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:46.160 there and spoke and it was like an immediate high 149 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.720 for him. He went on for hours and people were 150 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:52.079 really digging was he what he was saying? And so 151 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.480 much so to the point where he started having little 152 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:59.160 like offshoot meetings at his own place. And not too 153 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.120 long before or not too long after this, these heroin 154 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.199 addicts start showing up and at this point in history 155 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:08.800 there had never been like support groups for heroin addicts. 156 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:12.519 And they kind of drove the drinkers away, and it 157 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.680 just kind of became this thing where it was like 158 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.959 all these junkies from all walks of life were showing 159 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:19.879 up to quit. 160 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:27.560 And because the alcoholics slipped down, yeah, as they kind 161 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:27.959 of clashed. 162 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.800 I think a few of the drinkers struck around, but 163 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.000 most of them just you know, scdaddled. And he kind 164 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.240 of looked at it as in an economic way, like 165 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.840 this works. There's nothing else like it for these people. 166 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.720 You know, these other guys can go to AA. And 167 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:45.000 he kind of just took what AA did, and he 168 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.519 gave it a leader, because you know, that's the unique 169 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:50.080 thing about AA if you do it right. But anyway, 170 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:55.120 they ended up in a storefront at some point. They 171 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:57.559 got a lot of people with money in there, and 172 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.919 they just start expanding, and it's kind of like any 173 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.960 cult formula. 174 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:06.399 He starts taking the assets of of you know me 175 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:07.759 that had them. 176 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.679 And one of the things he did in the beginning, 177 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.360 it was in these meetings he had. It was called 178 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:17.399 the game. And this thing is crazy. It kind of 179 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:19.720 is the thing that stuck out to me the most. 180 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:23.759 But these people would just berate each other. So if 181 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.559 it was your turn, everything was fair game other than 182 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:31.879 violence or threats of violence, but anything could go and you. 183 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.600 Could just say anything. 184 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.159 And so it was like real cathartic for these people. 185 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.399 And I think Leonard Nimoy a few other notable celebrities 186 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:44.320 actually like just went participated in these rituals for this, 187 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:46.559 for the for the game, in these meetings they have, 188 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.639 and I call it rituals, but like. 189 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:49.960 Why would you want that though? 190 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:51.960 It's like you sit in the middle of a circle 191 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.159 and just have a bunch of random people tell you 192 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:55.559 what a piece of dog shit you are. 193 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:55.720 For you. 194 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.279 Have you ever watched those videos. 195 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:03.240 It's pretty wide shoul, crazy, dirty cop motherfucker's thinking. 196 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.879 And that's that's something that's still was going on in 197 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:09.320 Phoenix House twenty years ago, fifteen years ago. 198 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.240 Is that style? 199 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:11.919 I know for a fact that was still going on 200 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.960 in TC's So I'm saying this ship is still being used. 201 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.200 That's wild. It looks like Juel said, the logo for 202 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:23.519 Synonym looks like the Processed Church too, which is awesome. 203 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:24.279 I can pull it up. 204 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:26.840 I was never in one of those places, but it 205 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.600 came across a lot of people who work obviously. 206 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.240 Oh go ahead, I keep cutting out over here, go ahead. 207 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.480 And oh you go ahead. I'm done. I'm done. 208 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.759 Oh this is why I keep when you paying fair 209 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:38.919 game before Colby, this is why he's one of the 210 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:41.639 reasons that's a funny term, because when you're describing this thing, 211 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.440 the game, this is one of the reasons why I 212 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.519 asserted that sending On actually grew out of scientology. The 213 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.320 game is really based on bull baiting. That's what the 214 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:50.159 scientologists call that. 215 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.440 Bull baiting, like where you sit in a circle and 216 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:55.480 tell everybody what. 217 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:59.279 A piece of shit you literally scream at your opponent, 218 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:02.240 your other h fellow of scientologists. And in this h 219 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.000 you know, you call it ritual, they call them an expert. 220 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:06.159 They call them training exercises, if you will, I think 221 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:10.679 training protocols. So the idea is to numb out any 222 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:13.600 response from from from the individual. So they'll yell everything 223 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:15.600 they can to make any kind of movements and noises 224 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.559 right in your face to them, and you don't ever 225 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:21.120 graduate until you have no response. M Wait a minute, 226 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:25.480 I have a better picture of it, if you want 227 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:26.039 me to pull it up. 228 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.399 You think about scientology as or religion. It's basically like 229 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.799 the ultimate corporatism. So what they want is the most cold, 230 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.600 calculating person possible with no emotions. And they have all 231 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.600 these different methods of ridding the person of all emotions, 232 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.360 so they could be the perfect psychopath. 233 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:46.440 That is an interesting logo. 234 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:51.039 It just gives me processed vibes, right, I was gonna say, right. 235 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.679 Yeah, definitely. I mean there's something. Maybe it's a start 236 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.720 spinning that real fast. It's going to start looking like 237 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:03.879 a swastika real quick. To this the synograd or the sonograd. 238 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:04.799 You know. 239 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.519 That's what I'm saying, dude, You start spending that it's 240 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.600 gonna look like it's gonna look like the Swasika walls 241 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:14.919 it out real fast. 242 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:17.960 It's like there's some some kind of symmetry. Maybe there's 243 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.919 some kind of occult science behind it. 244 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.879 I don't. I think that's part of it. Sure, Dan, 245 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.440 you know that's why we see things like with all 246 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.519 these birds with all their angles right the order, Yes, 247 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.399 listen for angles and stuff. 248 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.159 The weird thing about Synanon is it takes such a 249 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.200 weird turn because like it starts off with the game 250 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.200 right and you're like braiding each other to get get 251 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.960 the person clean, but then it turns into like what 252 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:43.600 no kids. 253 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:47.240 Yeah, I mean we're we'll just does but uh, it's 254 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.000 something interesting that I wanted to point out, which you 255 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.679 could do a shiploaded research on this and then this 256 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.320 hardly ever comes up. But I'm glad I saw it. 257 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.759 It's it reminds me of Bill Wilson with AA. So 258 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:01.559 you know, there was a lot of in this area 259 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.799 of California. Of course, there was a lot of experimental 260 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:09.279 studies going on with LSD, and he got into one 261 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:14.159 of them, Chuck did, and he had an LSD trip 262 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:16.360 probably one of the more nicer ones you could have 263 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.519 in these MK ultra studies. But I don't even remember 264 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.879 the guy. I think it was Sidney Cohen. It was 265 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.639 somebody very notable that was hooking this up. So you 266 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.879 look at and see that these things like he's mentioning 267 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:32.080 JJ's mentioning scientology similarities. And then you have this guy 268 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.200 participating in one of these MK ultra studies, and he 269 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:42.440 wanted to incorporate what he learned into the game and 270 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.639 other aspects of their there's the stuff they were doing. 271 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.320 But he didn't want the people to do drugs. He 272 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.519 didn't want them to kind of have that thing that 273 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.080 he had, and so they came up this with this 274 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:57.080 thing called the Trip, which is like the game on steroids, 275 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.759 and he would sleep deprive them for like. 276 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.519 Three days at least, and then they would have. 277 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:07.639 These breakthrough spiritual experience experiences and that kind of started 278 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.039 drawing in people more. And they also at one point, 279 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:13.879 I want to say, like ten years into it, it's 280 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.080 not even heroin addicts anymore. It's just they started these 281 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:21.519 intentional communities, and with the kids, it was more like 282 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:27.799 work camps, especially the ones that he had. One guy 283 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.399 in his name Space I'm spacing it, but he was 284 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:34.639 from southern California and he ended up going there. And 285 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:38.679 he was a black collegiate football player who had an 286 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:40.720 injury or something. He was going to go to the NFL, 287 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:43.440 but he ends up there because his wife was on 288 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:47.600 pills or some shit, and Chuck Didrich's wife's black. He 289 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:51.480 married an ex heroin addict from New York. I don't 290 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.559 remember her name. But this football player sees this and 291 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.440 he's like this, this is like they accept everybody, and 292 00:14:57.480 --> 00:14:59.360 so he went in there and he becomes like the 293 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:03.440 drill start for the kids, and the stories vary, but 294 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.159 there was a lot of physical abuse. 295 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:06.600 They started on. 296 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.759 The line on like their rules were no violence and 297 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:14.159 you know, no drug use, but they said the violence 298 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.519 thing kind of you know, it had a it was 299 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.320 very flexible when it came to the kids. Let's just say, 300 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.799 and these kids start running away at one point, and 301 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.159 oftentimes they would end up calling the cops and the 302 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.720 cops would just come take them right back, or the 303 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.320 parents themselves would come take them right back. And there 304 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.480 was all these stories about like humiliation rituals if you 305 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.960 were caught breaking rules in these work camps and. 306 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:42.559 If you got pregnant, they would take your baby away 307 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.320 and put them in a hatchery. 308 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.480 Yes, is that what it was called? A patchery? 309 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:51.039 Because this thing evolves, they start raising the kids. It's 310 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:54.080 in a communal way, and a lot of these kids 311 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.120 would see their parents like once a week if that. 312 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:59.720 And some of them didn't even know who their actual 313 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:00.960 births pre parents were. 314 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:02.960 They were just raised by the community. 315 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.519 I mean, there's a lot of good stories from these 316 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.320 A lot of these kids that got out in their 317 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.639 teens kind of blown the whistle on this stuff. But 318 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.559 they started shaving their heads. At one point, he makes 319 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.639 them swap wives. Near the end, like these guys all 320 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:22.159 start swapping wives because he gets divorced or his wife dies, 321 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.240 she gets cancer and dies, and then he gets remarried 322 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.159 and he decides, hey, this worked for me. So he 323 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:30.919 tells everybody they have to like stop seeing the partner 324 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.600 they're seeing. They have this ceremony where they break their 325 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.799 marital ties and then they regroup and some of them 326 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.679 stayed together, some of them ended up back with their 327 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.159 old partners, but a lot of these people just escaped, 328 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.320 and a lot like As it goes further and he 329 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.279 starts changing the rules. Throughout the years, they start losing 330 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.519 people and a lot of people start speaking out. So 331 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.840 this lawyer guy gets under their tail because they have 332 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.960 all these custody battles going on and there's all this 333 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.240 like accusations of abuse from these kids that are getting 334 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.960 out and ex members kids are still in there, so 335 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:10.160 it's just a shit show. And this lawyer guy goes 336 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:13.799 after him hard, and Diedrich would make these videotapes that 337 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.680 he would put throughout the compounds and he starts threatening 338 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.480 physical violence against anybody who fucks with them legally, and 339 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:25.039 a long story short, this fucking guy ends up with 340 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:31.000 a rattlesnake in his mailbox and gets bit, almost dies 341 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.200 in the hospital. And they traced it back to these 342 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.480 these kids into work camps. They kind of became militant 343 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.400 when they were in their adulthood and they would train 344 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.480 in northern California and they were really good with rattlesnakes. 345 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.359 They would catch them and eat them, and so it 346 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.279 was actually pretty obvious who it was. They ended up 347 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.160 tracing it back to these guys. Diedrich goes into hiding, 348 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.880 and I mean I skipped a lot of this stuff. 349 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:56.599 Because then he becomes an alcoholic again. 350 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:59.920 Yeah, oh he starts he starts drinking in the end too. 351 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.839 And like, I don't know if you guys have any questions, 352 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:06.559 it could jar some finer details, but yeah, in a nutshell, 353 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:13.559 this guy gave the church over to his daughter, and 354 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.799 then all these people that were running these youth programs 355 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.519 branch out and start these troubled team industry camps that 356 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.960 are still going on to this day. 357 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:28.240 Yeah, all of this sounds like scientology from the arranged marriages. 358 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:30.920 That's more so even on the process side of the 359 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.119 dark side of scientology there. Yeah, they do what they 360 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.319 are real heavy on the arranged marriages and telling folks 361 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.319 who and who they cannot have sex with. And then 362 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:41.920 you talk about the ritles think business. They call that 363 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.319 fair game, right, so you're allowed to do whatever you 364 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.160 want to upon the critics of scientology. This is per 365 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.279 a memo from l Ron Hubbard himself aka source as 366 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.359 they call them. But the idea of these Scientology doesn't 367 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.440 view children as children of them as old aliens and 368 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:00.680 young people's bodies. So they're the ones developed a lot 369 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:04.480 of this taxpayer funded camps to send kids to in 370 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.240 these drug rehab centers. So well, I assert that a 371 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.759 lot of this stuff from sending On came from is scientology. 372 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:12.559 You know, I think a lot of that ship fell 373 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.519 was falling apart by the late sixties when scientology came 374 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.160 out with a more overt scientology form of Narconon. 375 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:21.279 I remember that. 376 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.359 Oh yeah, Well, when you get into el Ron Hubbard, 377 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:32.119 you also get into you know, masturbation parties in the 378 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.160 desert with Jack Parsons and uh. 379 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:41.359 Making moon children and and hobby hobby. We all have hobbies, 380 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.960 you know. These people are freaks, they're they're. 381 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.519 Well, I have ambitions. 382 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:52.519 But he was a man with goals, jewels. He was 383 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.039 a man in the desert is one of those goals. 384 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.680 It's it's it's wild how how much that cult has 385 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:00.279 blown up. 386 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:10.599 I mean, that's what it is. Can't deny that. 387 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:08.839 Those kids with the rattlesnake didn't get them first. 388 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:10.839 That is crazy. 389 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.680 Yeah, they have a rattlesnake just bite you, and they 390 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:19.119 took that as like a sign to then use rattle 391 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.319 snakes or like that's odd. 392 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.240 Paralized the guy, right, he was paralyzed for life, right. 393 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:31.559 I don't remember if he was paralyzed. He said, yeah, they. 394 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:32.920 Started eating rattlesnakes. 395 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.519 Well, they had these little training camps because they they 396 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.720 they had what was it called, It was almost like 397 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:43.000 a marine name. They had their own branch of the military. 398 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:45.359 Near the end, there's a lot of these kids that 399 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.039 did well in the work. Good advance to this other 400 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:49.519 little shaved. 401 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:52.920 Head sending on weird hatchery fucks that grew up and 402 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:53.839 ate rattlesnake. 403 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:57.720 So a couple of these, a couple of these guys 404 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.559 just got the idea, Like the guy was kind of 405 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:06.160 watching his back. But the lawyer, and I don't know, 406 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.279 he's even said that when he looked in there, he thought, well, 407 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.559 what the fuck, that's a weird shaped package. Maybe it's 408 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:16.440 like a scarf or a I don't know, had these 409 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:18.039 ideas of what it could have been. And it was 410 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.599 just a fucking snake sitting under a bunch of bells. 411 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:22.160 Tail off. Yeah, so it. 412 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:24.799 Could oh shit, so you could hear it? 413 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:25.079 Wow? 414 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:29.240 Right, there was another guy. Some kids escaped from sending 415 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.400 On and ran to like this farmer guy's house, and 416 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.119 these guys, these militant guys showed up beat him almost 417 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:39.920 to death and almost the kids goot. 418 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.440 Well, this ranch became known for helping their kids, these 419 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.680 kids escape and then it was almost like an underground 420 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:51.400 railroad for escape ease. And then they started spreading rumors 421 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:55.160 amongst the kids that they would shoot you dead. But yeah, 422 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.559 because they wanted to just stay. But these were these 423 00:21:57.559 --> 00:21:59.480 were the people that would call the cops, and the 424 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.160 cops would show up to this ranch and then oftentimes, 425 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.839 like I said, just drive them right back. And one 426 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:08.680 day this guy got the shit kicked out of him. 427 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.359 He had his kids in the car. One of them 428 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.039 got out and ran off and hid, and the daughter 429 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:14.759 was in the car, the wife was in the car, 430 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.000 and they just reached in through the window and just 431 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.119 started pummeling him. 432 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.839 And there was some other I. 433 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.440 Know, we're all probably poor, but let's face it, we 434 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:28.279 made a movie that scenario right there, just playing out 435 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.920 with these kids part of this cult training and then 436 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:33.799 you know all the shit that they get into. 437 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:36.279 That would be a big time winning movie. 438 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.640 The thing well, I watched Fight Club pretty recently, probably 439 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.799 within like the last three years, and the Project Mayhem, 440 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.319 the Space Monkeys them shaving their heads. I think a 441 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.480 lot of this stuff comes from Synanon that you see 442 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:50.440 in pop culture. 443 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:53.759 Process. 444 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:58.160 Yeah, Operation Chaos the smiley face symbol using the fight club. 445 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:02.000 Yeah, that day. 446 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:05.119 And I'm beginning to realize Lateal County, Idaho is a 447 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:08.240 processed church apicenter of activity where the University of Ida 448 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:12.319 is located. Chuck Palinook's father died of mysterious murder in 449 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.160 July of nineteen ninety nine and Latesal County, Idaho. 450 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.599 Yeah, he writes about that and Stranger than Fiction, which 451 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:20.960 is just as good as his fiction. It's all the 452 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.519 weird shit that he's seen through his life. What was 453 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:25.400 is this really society? 454 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:28.519 He was involved with them too, you know about that? 455 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:29.279 Can check that out. 456 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.440 What the society, Well, yeah. 457 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.519 They're an offshoot of I would argue they're an offshoot 458 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:39.079 of this whole Discordianism, this whole chaos movement of the process, 459 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:41.160 and that's why they're the posts behind the burning man 460 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:43.000 right society? 461 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.279 Yeah, and which one does it come? Paul Knook was 462 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:47.599 deep into them for a while. 463 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.799 Oh yeah, so you know it's interesting, you know, he mean, 464 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.000 I guess it's interesting timing his movie gets big the 465 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.160 same time his father gets murdered. As one thing, But 466 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.680 speaking of things strange with infection, the murder mistigation into 467 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.759 his father's death may as well be fiction because that, 468 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.519 you know, it's the same ship we're seeing play out 469 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.000 right now in the same county against the case against 470 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:07.880 Brian Coburger. 471 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:09.640 I didn't even realize that was the. 472 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:13.000 Dictionalized murder investigations. They're just making it up. 473 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:15.039 God damn. Yeah. 474 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:16.920 I grew up in Idaho, so all that stuff, like, 475 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:18.559 I know that whole area pretty well. 476 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.680 Oh, okay, what do you got? What do you see now? 477 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.519 But were you there when Palinok's father was murdered? 478 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.079 No, I mean I would have been living in like 479 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:33.640 southeast Idaho, so Idaho Falls, Twin Falls, the Twin yea, 480 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.319 So I probably came onto that story later. 481 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.720 I would have been pretty young when that happened. 482 00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.799 But I just found out about it. So you're way 483 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:42.480 ahead of me, sir. 484 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:44.799 Oh, I just read everything that guy wrote. He's kind 485 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.039 of turned into shit lately. 486 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:47.319 But I don't know. 487 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.119 Do you guys have any other questions about syning on 488 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:50.759 before Julia does her first one? 489 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:53.880 Like I said, I just skimmed over a lot. 490 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.400 I mean, there was so much that happened throughout this 491 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:57.799 thing that, Yeah, you. 492 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.359 Could do three or four podcast episodes on I didn't 493 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.400 want to, Oh, go ahead, go ahead. 494 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:06.599 I was gonna say it was one of the least 495 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.279 interesting ones out of all if you can imagine that. 496 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:13.720 And I made fun of him and I kept calling 497 00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:21.079 him this cinnamon cult. But it just is this cinnabon, Yeah, cinnabon. 498 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.359 But I mean, if you can imagine it being one 499 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.720 of the least interesting ones, you can probably use your 500 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.480 imagination for what the rest of the cults are. 501 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:29.839 Going to be like. 502 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.680 But yeah, I don't know if you guys have any questions, 503 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:38.720 but Synanon, it's like it follows that basic formula like 504 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:43.680 kind of cult thing, like separation from the family, you know, 505 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:48.279 take the kids away, swap wives, shave heads, very Manson esque, 506 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.319 you know, cult story. 507 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:53.599 Yeah, you know, it's a weird thing over by me. 508 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:55.480 When I was growing up with that, I said that 509 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.440 place was on the lake over by Lake round conco 510 00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.039 Wand the crazy thing with that is that you watch 511 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.319 I can't remember the original one, but it changed three 512 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.839 times and it was always a TC and it was 513 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:05.880 just like, all right, so. 514 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:07.880 What do you just kind of went out of business 515 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.200 and created a new z, started brought in a neon. 516 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.000 Yeah, that's all it was went from they went from 517 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.599 Apple to Phoenix House and something before. 518 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:19.039 Yeah, yeah yo. 519 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.559 And you know you were saying, like manual work. You'd 520 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.160 see those dudes just digging random holes in the fucking. 521 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:27.519 Yard, digging them and sometimes they would have them dig 522 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:28.960 holes and fill them back up all day. 523 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.759 Spoons, Yo, You see motherfuckers out in the through out 524 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:33.880 the yard, look like they're using like a spoon or something. 525 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.119 I have been told that they'll make them wear like 526 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.559 there was people that I was in rehabs with that 527 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.279 was in these places and they said that they've had 528 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.279 to wear costumes, they had to wear a sign saying 529 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:44.839 why they're in trouble, and they can't talk all day 530 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:46.519 and people could say whatever the fuck they want to them. 531 00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.720 I was like, Yo, that is some sick ship. I 532 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:53.079 should you not listen to me too? 533 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.759 Where they're standing there and that people are just screaming 534 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.079 in their ear, How worth this you are? 535 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.440 And I mean bull baiting. We got a bull bait 536 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.279 that you gotta bull bait the new recruits. That's that's 537 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.640 TP one, I believe again, Training Protocol one. You gotta 538 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.640 graduate that first, just like you do. And and Project 539 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:10.480 Mayhem there. 540 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.160 Yeah, yo one time and then we'll move on to 541 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:17.200 the next one. And because this is how I've already 542 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.079 heard stories about all these therapeutic communities and stuff from 543 00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.000 like other people, I got popped in I think it 544 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.920 was like Jamaica or Queens or something with dope on me. 545 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.400 I was young, you know, And I ended up going 546 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.440 to court because there you pretty much have to see 547 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.319 the judge, like right away within twenty four hours in 548 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.200 the city, you don't really get bail and go home. 549 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:35.200 Uh. 550 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.000 So I had to see the judge and like they 551 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.559 were bringing up this idea of me. Uh and I 552 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.519 think I already had like another case open for like 553 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.359 heroin possession, and so basically they were going to consolidate 554 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.480 both cases and let's you know, let's just get this 555 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.039 over with, you know. And they were suggesting like a 556 00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.759 drug rehab and they said Samaradan Village. I don't even 557 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.039 knew that was a TC. And I was like, you know, 558 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.519 I asked the lay. I was like, how how long 559 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.200 is this program? He's like about nine months? And I 560 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:01.680 was like, how much time are they going to offer me? 561 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.440 So like he asks them, I think they offered like 562 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.519 six months, and I was like really, I was like 563 00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.880 six months for like these peop or whatever. He ends 564 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.079 up getting the judges to drop it down to four months. 565 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.200 And then I asked him, I said, how long is 566 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.200 the wait to get into the program? If I got 567 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.000 to sit in jail and wait to get into the program. 568 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.519 They said it could be up to three to six months. 569 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.680 Wait. I said, yeah, I'll take the fucking jail time. 570 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.839 I would too, fuck because I'm not going to make 571 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:24.920 it through the nine months anyway. 572 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:26.519 And if I fucking got kicked out, I had the 573 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:27.359 jail time anyway. 574 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:28.319 Wow. 575 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.359 I was like, Yo, let's just let's just get kissed 576 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:31.720 out of the four months I'll have to do three, 577 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.319 let's get this ninety days the fuck over with. 578 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.799 Yeah, yeah, I'll thank. 579 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:38.759 You right well. 580 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.880 And Sinanon figured out early on that they didn't really 581 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:47.599 have tax exemption as a religious status, but they did 582 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.839 figure out that if they were doing these rehab programs, 583 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.319 they would get government money. And so, like the very 584 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.960 situation Nick just described that he went through. That's how 585 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.559 a lot of these kids ended up there. 586 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.759 Fed said so many motherfuckers of. 587 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.960 The nasty cycle, right like Nick was just pointing out, 588 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.240 it's a nasty cycle. That they know they're signing the 589 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.240 people behind this, and they know what they're doing. 590 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.440 As far as they want to go to jail, No, 591 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.160 you'll just eat shifting I once you want to go 592 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:10.519 to jail. 593 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:11.400 They'll even threaten that. 594 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.440 That same cycles depicted in the Hair Advice and Inherent 595 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.519 the film and Hair Advice depicts the processed church in 596 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.559 Los Angeles depicting that same cycle you just described, Nick. 597 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.039 It's part of the process, you know. It's an economic 598 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.039 coal hog effets where they're going to profit from every angle. 599 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.319 Get them to do movie. 600 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.960 Yeah, I'm doing. I'm doing a review with it on 601 00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:35.720 the next month. 602 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.480 That's one of That's one of my top five favorite movies. 603 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.440 It's my number one favorite movie, sir. Yes, it's a 604 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.319 great nice dude. 605 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:43.759 Yeah, I heard you bring it up and you guys 606 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.920 were talking about OJ the other day because I had 607 00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:47.799 just made her watch it like two days before that. 608 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.920 Oh yeah, it's a great movie, dude, And like I 609 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:51.640 I connect on it, like I like to say, on 610 00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.960 a molecular level because I'm a former private investigator myself 611 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.799 who also loves Spot. So I got to finish roll 612 00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.559 on the STUDI. 613 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:07.680 We're gonna call you. What's his name, Speccoli fast Time. 614 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.400 That's a that's a great movie's name. 615 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.440 I wonder. 616 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.440 Bartello. That's right. 617 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.160 He's part if you look at he's part of Project Chaos. 618 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:25.240 He's a CIA operative working of a free clinic in 619 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.359 the Hate Nashbury. They're in Los Angeles, but I'm saying 620 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.640 like they're kind of paying that that that same setting 621 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:32.039 for you. 622 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:37.319 Definitely you ready for me, Let's go this one. 623 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:43.079 Yeah, I'm so excited. This one's so crazy. Okay, So 624 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.799 the first one that I actually talked about in the 625 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.799 series is something that Nick you're gonna have a separate 626 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.519 episode about, so we'll skip that one. But the second 627 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.279 one that I covered is called the Movement for the 628 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:01.480 Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God. That is the 629 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.920 entire name of the cult. I mean, try fitting out 630 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.359 on a fucking crap top. Nobody's doing it. Longest cult 631 00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:13.759 name ever, Yeah, and it was actually it came out 632 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:18.680 of Uganda during the AIDS epidemic. I don't know if 633 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.960 you guys have ever heard about this cult, but it 634 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.920 is fucking wild from start to finish. 635 00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:29.279 Literally, I it sounds wild, is. 636 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.920 Oh my god. So basically their leader was this guy 637 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:40.119 named Joseph Kibbuwi, and he claimed that he was getting 638 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:46.160 static electricity phone calls from the Virgin Mary, and that 639 00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.559 the Virgin Mary was communicating with him through electronics in 640 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.079 his house, like fucking Heather or Poulter guys. Shit, and 641 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.119 he'd like put his hands on the TV. 642 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.680 And go say he had some kind of a message 643 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:00.480 forever everybody. 644 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.480 And he literally started an entire cult behind this shit, 645 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:10.640 and he told everybody that the world was going to end. 646 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.559 He knows because he got a static electricity phone call 647 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.319 from the Virgin Mary. He knows this The world is 648 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.720 going to end on December thirty first, nineteen ninety nine, 649 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.359 and that they all everybody needed to prepare for it. 650 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.079 That he had thousands of members in this cult, and 651 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.839 so basically what he did was he had everybody sell 652 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.000 everything that they had, all their possessions. 653 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.440 They had this big. 654 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.039 Party and he they like roasted some pigs and did 655 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.759 all this stuff, and it was super ritualistic and weird. 656 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:51.319 And then, as you can imagine, after everybody's done all this, 657 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.359 because he had all these weird rules, right, like they 658 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.519 could only eat on Tuesdays and Saturdays or something like that, 659 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.519 and you had to fast every other day. So he 660 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.240 had already started like mentally conditioning these people to just 661 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:13.319 be delusional. So they're starved. They weren't allowed to have sex. 662 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:18.519 They weren't allowed to you his verbal communication, he made 663 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.119 everybody speak in sign language. So you can imagine by 664 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:28.000 the time it gets to like New Year's Eve, he's 665 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.359 got all these people completely conditioned. They're starved, they haven't 666 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.359 had sex in years, they speak in sign language. I mean, 667 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.279 they're you know, fasting, doing all this stuff, and it's 668 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.279 in the middle of the AIDS epidemic, so. 669 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:44.680 It's scared. 670 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.559 But it's just like, what's it like living in that 671 00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.039 person's head that's somehow agreed to make this make sense. 672 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.920 That's what I said to Coleby, because if you were 673 00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.160 if you were to tell me, like if even if 674 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.119 because I'm a I would consider myself to be a Christian, 675 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.119 but I don't think you need anything extra to have 676 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.239 a relationship with God. But the thing is, like, even 677 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.679 if I met someone who was like a profound speaker 678 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.559 and had a lot of cool stuff to say and 679 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:18.320 was like a biblical scholar or something like that, and 680 00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:24.199 I admired them, even if that was the situation. If 681 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.119 you took away my food, you took away my ability 682 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.599 to fuck, my husband, and my like you have to 683 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.719 speak inside, Like at what point do you say? 684 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:35.199 Fuck you? 685 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.239 I don't need any of this to have a relationship 686 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.039 with God and get the fuck out of there, like 687 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.920 why stick around? And then at one point she was like, 688 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.320 nobody use soap. He took away the soap. 689 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.480 Oh, if everyone smells like shit, they'd realize it. Right, 690 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.320 it becomes a community thing, right when you ask that 691 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.920 folks don't leave. I think it becomes community right, really. 692 00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.159 I mean because it's like walking around with a dirty 693 00:34:59.199 --> 00:34:59.679 bee hole. 694 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.920 You can't anyone else wants to smell that except for 695 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.000 other folks who also don't. 696 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.519 I was like, you take away my food. First off, 697 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.079 fuck you, You take away my language, definitely, yeah, that is crazy, 698 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.480 my ability to fuck definitely fuck you. And then you 699 00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:19.679 take away my soap. 700 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.840 It's like a like all of those separately was enough 701 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.719 for me to say elaa, like. 702 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:29.159 Like what goes? 703 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:32.280 All came out? 704 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.280 But I guess it's just like the intense belief that 705 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.159 this fucking guy is talking to the virgin Mary and 706 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.159 she is warning him that the world is gonna end. So, 707 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.360 I mean, I guess if you were in Uganda in 708 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.880 the middle of the AIDS epidemic and you see bodies 709 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.400 piling up all over the place, people are sick, whatever, 710 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.400 you might be scared and think that the world is ending. 711 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:04.440 But I mean, there were literally thousands of members of 712 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.719 the of this movement. But so as you can imagine, 713 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.119 New Year's Eve rolls around the world didn't end. So 714 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:18.559 what he decided to do was he took seven hundred 715 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.119 and fifty members, not. 716 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.039 Even all of them, just damn, you had this many. 717 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:24.360 Holy Yeah, he. 718 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:29.079 Had thousands of members. So he took as many as 719 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.320 he could fit inside of his church, which was about 720 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:37.159 seven hundred and fifty, boarded up all the windows, boarded 721 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.039 up the door, and then he set the fucker on fire. 722 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.960 He set the fucking church ablaze, and he literally roasted 723 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.920 seven hundred and fifty people inside of this church. 724 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.000 These pictures are crazy, yeah, dude. 725 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.840 And then because he couldn't fit everybody inside the church 726 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.199 to set it on fire, he decided to poison some 727 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:05.719 of them. Some of them got stabbed, some of them 728 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.519 got strained, some of them got poisoned, and they just 729 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.320 found fields of bodies and there to this day still 730 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:14.880 digging up bodies in Uganda. 731 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.320 That's a lot of fun mass graves. 732 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.400 Yeah, an evil son of a bitch that is so 733 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.119 many fucking people. 734 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:25.159 Well, just think about it. 735 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.480 After he takes all that stuff away from you, there's 736 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.920 nothing else you want to do more than kill yourself. 737 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:37.840 These pictures are crazy, but you can pull them up there. 738 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:38.440 Charred body. 739 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.400 Yeah, if you want to pull up some pictures, they're 740 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.440 definitely available for everybody to see. I mean there were 741 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:49.239 mass graves all over Uganda. It actually appeared when investigators 742 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:54.559 started looking into this case that he had peeks because 743 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.639 he needed help killing thousands of people. He couldn't do 744 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.039 it single handedly. So what he did was he had 745 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.840 him and a couple of his buddies just start murdering 746 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.679 people for weeks on end. And the big hurrah at 747 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.000 the end was locking seven and fifty in the church 748 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.119 and setting it on fire. 749 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:15.320 This one that's I guess the church after it burned. 750 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.880 There's there's other pictures that you probably see a couple bodies, 751 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:19.840 but it's not visible. 752 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:21.639 There's pictures with bodies in it. 753 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.559 You should throw some of the body pictures up there 754 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.039 because it's wild. It is like it's like, uh literally. 755 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.599 Wants me to I just didn't. Okay, okay, cool, I 756 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:33.519 got you. 757 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.360 It's literally hundreds of bodies like piled up with tarps 758 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.800 over them, just roasted like Thanksgiving turkeys, just laid out there. 759 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.800 And the crazy thing too, is like they discover thousands 760 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.679 of bodies whatever he took off and he's never been 761 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.159 found to this day. No, he's gotten away with all 762 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.480 of this. No one has ever been able to locate 763 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:03.480 this asshole Kiboute since happened. 764 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:11.119 He's not even whole. I was listening to all this wild, 765 00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.199 So where's the State Department or USAID involved in all this? 766 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.039 We've been doing something there for that Kansas the pictures up. 767 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.400 I mean, it's like they didn't want to find him. 768 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:26.360 Yeah, it seems like that, right. 769 00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.360 How big is Uganda in this motherfucker with no soap? 770 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.639 Who's that asshole that they had the big campaign against? 771 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.639 Do you remember that back in twenty twelve, Kobe or 772 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:40.239 Cody twenty twelve? 773 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.480 Didn't they make it? But didn't make that up? 774 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.800 Yeah, like that seems like some kind of experiment, Like. 775 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:48.599 That's what I'm saying. 776 00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:49.679 This was like a shit. 777 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.800 Yeah, I do. 778 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.159 Remember that assion that people were passing around like burnt 779 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.159 DVDs of that guy on college right and ship he 780 00:39:58.280 --> 00:39:59.119 was from Uganda. 781 00:39:59.280 --> 00:39:59.880 Another picture. 782 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.079 Yeah, I don't know where Cony twenty twelve was supposed 783 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:04.800 to be, but it's. 784 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.599 This is so much worse. 785 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.480 Than anything Cony twenty twelve ever was. 786 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.000 Well, it's like he's still the loose. He's still on 787 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:15.559 the loose. 788 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.039 That's the crazy, wasn't it Cony? 789 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.519 Maybe it was this happened. You would think he would 790 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.800 be like on some type of like FBI's most Wanted 791 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:33.199 list or some shit. Seven hundred fIF burnt alive and 792 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.320 then thousands buried in mass graves all over You gone 793 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:37.400 to stabed. 794 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.079 Strangled, something about a cave. 795 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.280 Yeah, didn't they start finding different locations. 796 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:48.599 They found locations all over You gotta where he got 797 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:49.679 just buried people? 798 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.079 No, this is crazy, wasn't it him? 799 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:56.039 And like twelve other dudes that kind of kind of 800 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.920 just rounded them all up. And if you had certain levels, 801 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.400 like you were allowed to commit suicide or they could 802 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:03.199 help you die. 803 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:11.079 No, that was solar. Okay, So this is of aids. 804 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:16.280 I want to say, let's see hereties. It was the 805 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.840 It was the early eighties when it's when it came 806 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.159 into formation, and then it took until nineteen ninety nine, 807 00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.360 when the end of the world was coming for this 808 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.679 all to dissolve. But he had like a good ten 809 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:36.159 year run, which is why he had thousands. Yo. 810 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.320 What yo. 811 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.440 I would almost wonder if that was aocalyptic belief system, 812 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.880 right mm hmm, yeah. 813 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.039 Yeah, so it's like a doomsday kind of cult. The 814 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.599 only thing that sets them apart, in my opinion, is 815 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.639 this whole static electricity phone call thing from the Virgin Mary. 816 00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:59.519 He didn't claim to have supernatural powers other than the 817 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:03.000 fact that he was just chosen and was receiving this information. 818 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.360 And because it was in the middle of AIDS, I 819 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.719 do think that people already had that pandemic state of 820 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.800 mind where it's like, maybe the world really is ending. 821 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.360 Look at all these people dropping dead, you know, from 822 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:20.679 this this uncurable thing. So you know, he takes away 823 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.320 the soap, your language, your food, your sex, everything, and 824 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.920 then he sets you on fire in a church. This 825 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.840 dude is literally insane. 826 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:30.000 And still. 827 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:33.880 This is also very Jones sound like it all sounds 828 00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:36.559 very MKL for experiment, Like you know, like where you're 829 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.079 you're incrementally causing more trauma within this this group that 830 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:44.559 you're obviously probably taking notes about and experimental and type fashion. 831 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.559 But I think these lack of intelligence agencies as I 832 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:53.519 call them, they bake into these these these experiments. 833 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.840 Yeah, I mean it does. It is very mk ultra 834 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.400 like to me, because it's like you have to take 835 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:06.760 away everyone's I guess, like the simple luxuries in life, 836 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.280 and then you just get down to your very basic 837 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.079 living and then. 838 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:12.840 It's like. 839 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:20.079 Whatever Joseph says, that's the thing, because you have nothing else. 840 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.360 He's taken everything else from you. 841 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:23.800 But you have this. 842 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.119 Guy, you know what I mean, this guy even who 843 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:27.960 just by looking at him, I'd. 844 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:28.480 Never fall him. 845 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.400 No, And it's like, look at this motherfucker is he 846 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.800 You're telling me that they can't find this guy? 847 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:38.119 Right? Well? 848 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.079 Nick, do you remember that episode we did with the 849 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:45.559 rapper guy who lived in Uganda for like five years. 850 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:47.920 His description of the place. 851 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.719 I remember what he was talking about, but I can't remember. 852 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:52.480 That was way back. 853 00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:56.360 He said that place was so unfucking believable, Like the 854 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.639 amount of like dumb fuckery that just goes on in 855 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:03.679 your onto every single day. It's like it's a completely 856 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:07.000 different planet of just people acting like shit hats. 857 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.840 I remember, that's what. 858 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:10.599 It seems like. 859 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.159 It seems lawless to me. I mean, how do you 860 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:17.159 get And it's like after so that the other people 861 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.960 in Uganda that were not a part of this movement, 862 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.840 they said, after the church caught on fire and all 863 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.199 those people burned up, the smell of rotting flesh was 864 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.519 so strong for weeks on end that the people in 865 00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:37.519 the surrounding areas couldn't even eat food. It smelled so 866 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:42.760 terrible for so long, they were disgusted. They couldn't even 867 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.159 like go outside. It stung so bad. And you're telling 868 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.360 me that this guy that did this, no one ever 869 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:50.320 looked for him. 870 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.199 He's just gone. He vanished. He's a fucking ghost. 871 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:53.519 Now. 872 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.760 It just doesn't make sense to me, Like, really, he 873 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:57.840 just disappeared. 874 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:01.199 All the head doesn't make sense to me. 875 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.320 It sounds like the ritual human sacrifice there at the 876 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.320 end of the fire was sponsored by Coca Cola. 877 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:11.079 Yeah right, They drank like what twenty cases. 878 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.360 Or said, seventy crates of it. I don't know when 879 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.559 it's in a crate, but they had seventy crates in 880 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.760 that fire. For that party that blew up, So it 881 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.480 sounds like it was sponsored by Coca Cola. 882 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.239 Right. They were like, well, since we've starved you and 883 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.840 you haven't soaked your bee hole in about five years, 884 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.239 we thought you could use a good old coke. 885 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.840 Come come to our End Times party. We're gonna have 886 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.320 plenty of coke and Coca Cola. 887 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.559 Was this the Was this guy literally saying it was 888 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:40.760 a phone call in his head? 889 00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:41.960 Yeah? 890 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.119 No, No, he was saying, like the phone would ring 891 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.920 in his house and he'd pick it up and it'd 892 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.519 be the Virgin Mary telling him. 893 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.840 The Rhow okay, I thought it was in his head. No, 894 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.960 so you hear it ringing and you decide to entswer 895 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.519 it in your head. 896 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:54.519 He said. 897 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.480 All the electronics in his home were possessed by the 898 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:03.880 Virgin Mary and would like his toaster, his microwave, they 899 00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.199 were all possessed by the Virgin Mary. He couldn't even 900 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.599 throw a toaster strudel in because that bitch was like 901 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.840 the world's gonna end in nineteen ninety nine. Just get ready. 902 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.440 That's an unfortunate circumstance. You can't even toast the toaster's crudele. 903 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.000 That'll drive a man mad I do find it interesting 904 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.039 that that is the this is no secret, Like so 905 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.480 you're saying no one found this too, but it's no 906 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.760 secret there that. I was just reading an article from 907 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.400 the state newspaper about, you know, a year in advance 908 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.079 to this, where they're interviewing at the Ugana State Newspaper, 909 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:34.559 they're interviewing a cult members saying, we all got to prepare. 910 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.280 You know, the world's ending next year, so the whole 911 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:37.880 you know, it seemed like everybody knew about. 912 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.719 These people, right right, Yeah, So it's not like they 913 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.199 were underground or anything like that. I mean the government, 914 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.199 you god in government was very aware of their existence. 915 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.360 But it's like they just he's the most uncatchable fucker 916 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.079 of all time. I guess. 917 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:02.079 Nobody gone, and where's Waldo? That's to this guy? 918 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.159 Yeah but yeah, no, that's so that's the movement for 919 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:11.519 the restoration of the Ten Commandments of God. That's definitely 920 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:13.960 a cult. For anybody out there listening. If you want 921 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.559 to dive in a little bit deeper, you should. It's 922 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.079 really fucked up. It's even been featured on an episode 923 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:23.840 of Ancient Aliens because they said that the Virgin Mary 924 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.400 entity that he was communicating with was an alien and 925 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:28.760 that this was all legit. 926 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.559 Like, okay, as we. 927 00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.280 Got an ancient alien the post or you know, apocalyptical 928 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:38.519 going on the ship doing weird sex stuff. It's not 929 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:40.960 always They're not always having sex. They just have weird 930 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.880 sexual fetishes. 931 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.639 There's always a control off in your. 932 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.280 Dick's off evans Gate style right. 933 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.199 Of no ship. But I think Colby, unless you guys 934 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.079 have any questions, Colby's ready with his next lie. 935 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.639 You guys don't have anything else to say about this ship. 936 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.360 Which one are you doing next? 937 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.960 Oh, this one's weird. It's called the Church of Happy Science. 938 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:10.599 It sounds nice. 939 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:19.199 Okay, Well, this is a Japanese cult, and I think that. 940 00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.199 You guys might know more about this. But after World 941 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.599 War Two and what happened culturally in Japan, they just 942 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.760 kind of became wide open for this ship, and a 943 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:33.440 whole bunch of colts started from like the children of 944 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.320 the survivors of World War Two. 945 00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.679 It was just a different era for everybody. 946 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.039 And when I was studying this, uh, it seems like 947 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.599 they were just one of many. And there's the famous 948 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.360 Japanese cult in the nineties that had the seren Gas 949 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:55.119 bump bumbled false flag operation there, and these these guys 950 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:56.360 actually cross paths. 951 00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.039 So what was that one. I'm sure you guys heard 952 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.639 of that one with the Sarah and Gas. 953 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.599 In the nineties, they were also referred to as the 954 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:04.840 doom Stay cults. 955 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:10.920 They had the blind guy that was leading down Yeahhara. 956 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.000 They had strange bathing practices too, I think. 957 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.360 Yeah, So I was thinking about covering that one, but 958 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.639 it seems like it's more widely covered. And then I 959 00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.440 saw this one when I was looking into that. So 960 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.840 the Church of Happy Science is kind of a different one. 961 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.480 It's it's not really doomsday ask so much. 962 00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.960 But I think it's one of the more ridiculous ones. 963 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:36.480 So this chubby, little Japanese boy, his name was Rioho Okawa, 964 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.119 and so this kid was kind of just your average 965 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.000 second child. He had a you know, shadow casted over 966 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.199 him by his overachieving brother, who the dad loved more. 967 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:56.679 And you know that old chestnut and he it's second grade. Like, 968 00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.880 this guy is a prolific writer. Throughout his life, Rioho 969 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.079 wrote thousands of books, and in one year alone he 970 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.519 was said to have written fifty two. But this guy, 971 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.480 this guy was a prominent lecturer, so they would actually 972 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.119 transcribe his lectures and count that. 973 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.519 But he published thousands of books over his lifetime. 974 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:18.320 But sounds like Japanese l Ron Hubbard. Huh. 975 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.280 So I was looking on rational Wicca to kind of refresh, 976 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.239 and so he had a background. 977 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:25.719 We'll get into it in day trading. 978 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.360 And they called this guy the Japanese day trader turned 979 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:30.400 el Ron, so. 980 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.800 I mean already known as that. 981 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.880 So he had an older brother, like I said, that 982 00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.840 was an overachiever, and Riojo was just kind of basic 983 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:42.960 ass bitch average, if not just. 984 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.639 Like a chubby Buddha that had nowhere to go. 985 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.199 Well, that's definitely Lron. 986 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.039 He quotes his second grade teacher of telling him he 987 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.639 had the IQ of Albert Einstein and that he was 988 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.119 the smart as he was as smart as a twenty 989 00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:00.199 one year old man. 990 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.840 All roun again to speak seven languages and graduate college 991 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.480 at the age of sixteen. All these were false. 992 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.719 Well, once we get to this, this guy is him. 993 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.360 This is him, so you don't oz empic. 994 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:14.360 He's got more hair than Elron. 995 00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.880 He actually kind of slimmed up as he became an 996 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.239 adult guy. But he like this is how much this 997 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.480 dude craved attention. People started making fun of his way 998 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.559 in grade school, calling him a sumo wrestler, so he 999 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.519 like rolled with it and tried to become a sumo 1000 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:30.679 wrestler for a little while. 1001 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.360 Like this guy has no identity whatsoever. 1002 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:39.320 Yeah, and so he ends up getting into this Tokyo 1003 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.320 University program, ends up over in New York for a while. 1004 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:44.519 This is how egotistical this guy is. 1005 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.800 He met another Asian student over there that was doing 1006 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.280 the same program, and she spoke two languages and it 1007 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.159 pissed him off. She spoke two more languages than he did, 1008 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:54.679 and he quit the program over that. 1009 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.400 So he goes back. He ends up like an art school, making. 1010 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:00.119 Him fucking clay. 1011 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:00.760 Yeah. 1012 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.880 In Einstein shit. 1013 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.280 He starts thinking big for himself when he's kind of 1014 00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:08.960 just coasting through the collegiate years, and he decides that 1015 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.920 he's a channeler and he channels this I don't remember 1016 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:17.360 which one, but it's an ancient Buddhist figure that he channels, 1017 00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.199 and this figure tells him he needs to start his 1018 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:25.320 own church, and he starts having like meetings like student 1019 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.440 centers and shit like that in the beginning, but this 1020 00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.679 thing takes off and he he just has all these 1021 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.920 predictions and shit that he's telling everybody that this Buddhist 1022 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.079 figure is channeling through him. And this is where it 1023 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.400 gets kind of nice. I think this is the happiest 1024 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.039 part of the story. His dad sees what he's doing, 1025 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.719 sees that it's growing, and joins him, and he starts 1026 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:50.440 like transcribing all of his lectures, and as the years 1027 00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:54.239 roll on, he starts channeling basically anybody, Like at first 1028 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:58.440 it's like it's these old ancient gods, and then he 1029 00:52:58.480 --> 00:52:59.960 starts channeling like celebrity. 1030 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:03.159 He starts channeling people that are still alive. 1031 00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.039 He starts channeling Barack Obama, He's channel Donald Trump. 1032 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.320 And he says, now in the process some process highlights there, sir, 1033 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.679 I'm definitely enjoying the stage. AJ. 1034 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.679 I'm glad you're here for this, because I as we 1035 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.960 were studying these, I'm wondering, like, how many how much 1036 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:23.079 of this is CIA, how much of this is process? 1037 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:22.159 I think. 1038 00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:27.199 Footnotes because it's yeah, they all have like a center 1039 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.599 line that they connect on. They all get a little weird, 1040 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.320 but they all kind of come back to the same spot. 1041 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.559 Well, specifically, you're talking shing Gun Buddhism. That's part of 1042 00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.119 the process. Stuff that's noted in a number of crimes. 1043 00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.880 And then you're talking and reports and you're talking, uh, 1044 00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:46.079 the the idea that you know that you're channeling somebody 1045 00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.280 who's already is not dead yet, I mean, the idea, 1046 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:49.719 it's just I can't it's hard for me to say. 1047 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:50.719 It's fucking looney tunes. 1048 00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.159 But he said he's channeling their spirit guide. 1049 00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.320 Okay, so Mary, unless he was the reincarnation of Joseph 1050 00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.159 Gebels who was not dead yet. So that's what that's 1051 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:00.960 what that reminded me of. 1052 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.119 Okay, that's interesting. 1053 00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:05.960 And it may be a spiry guy thing there too, 1054 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.559 I'm not sure, but you know, it is a striking similarity. 1055 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.000 He channeled Freddy Mercury. 1056 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:12.599 Yeah, I. 1057 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:15.719 Got up when she was doing hers. I was looking 1058 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.679 for my notes because I have a list of people 1059 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:20.840 this fucker channeled. But the Freddie Mercury one is really 1060 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.639 interesting because this guy's I didn't really touch on it much, 1061 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.880 but this guy's like belief system that he made these 1062 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:33.840 people swallow if you joined, was that we are living 1063 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.960 on It reminded me of Mormonism. We're living on layers 1064 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.400 of celestial realities. 1065 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.199 And you could climb to nine. 1066 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.880 But so the thing about this stuff this guy was 1067 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.679 preaching when it came to like politics, he was very nationalist. 1068 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:53.639 He was very xenophobic and conservative, and a lot of 1069 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.159 there's a lot of Trump overlap, Like they were really 1070 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.000 behind Trump in twenty sixteen when he. 1071 00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.679 Were nine angles. That's how like them. 1072 00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:05.000 Yeah, and he has spot on with the celestial levels 1073 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.920 of Mormonism. Did you grow up around Mormons and Idaho or. 1074 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.559 Did you I grew up in a town where there're 1075 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.639 the students in the high school are ninety one percent lds. 1076 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.400 Yeah, yeah, high school. 1077 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.000 Yeah, they all fucked in the parking lot when they're 1078 00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:21.199 there and their friend. 1079 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:22.719 Yeah. 1080 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.559 So But the thing that I was laying the groundwork 1081 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.440 for with all that is Freddie Mercury was channeled and 1082 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.039 he said that he's on the eighth level because he 1083 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.880 did so much good with the world. But you know, 1084 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.960 I can't get in nine because I liked a little 1085 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.440 cac He couldn't. 1086 00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.360 Get to nine because of his b hole problem. 1087 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.239 Well what do you want? 1088 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.920 But he was a scientology that's the lowest level on 1089 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.800 the tone scales. Reporters, journalists and homos, that's what. 1090 00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.559 So this guy ends up kind of growing this thing 1091 00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.079 pretty quickly, and like I said, he's channeling anybody and 1092 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.039 everybody under the sun, all this being transcribed and published. 1093 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:05.159 His teachings. 1094 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.840 They his the way he propagandazed. He bought an anime 1095 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:14.280 company and they would actually do some pretty decent work. 1096 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.800 They had nothing to do with the church, and then 1097 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:17.719 they would just start throwing little ship in there. 1098 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.039 And so they were going after that like younger crowd, and. 1099 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.719 You're talking about octopus cartoons, you know that kind of thing. 1100 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:24.960 You know. 1101 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.360 I don't know if it got on the Dragon. 1102 00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.519 Ball z, but like channeling Freddie Mercury's be holes, that's. 1103 00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.239 What I forget. It was sex related. And I know 1104 00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:35.400 Japan's got those weird laws where they do. 1105 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:44.000 Like, yeah, everybody grows their pubes out, so it blocks 1106 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:45.119 the Genitalia porn. 1107 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.960 Right, you can buy an vending machine right next to 1108 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:50.840 the little girls underwear in a Japanese subway, you know 1109 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:51.159 what I mean. 1110 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:53.360 That's interesting. 1111 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.199 Well, so he ends up marrying the weird environment that 1112 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.840 uh he he claimed was okay. So so he claimed 1113 00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:05.000 to be the reincarnation of Buddha at one point and 1114 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.880 then when you break it all down, he's Buddha, he's God, he's. 1115 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.800 Fucking Jesus, said everybody. 1116 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.880 Yeah, and he's also from Venus, and so he get in. 1117 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.280 He got into some like old sci fi stuff with 1118 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:21.000 like where the race came from. And I mean it's 1119 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.320 all pretty interesting. We'll just skim over it here. But people, Oh, 1120 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.039 he said that we should nuke China. 1121 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.280 I like, I like him already. So are they Venetians 1122 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.079 or what were they? Tall whites where we talk in 1123 00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.519 your little little little dogon little Japanese fellas whatever they 1124 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.159 call themselves, the dog people. 1125 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.079 I'm sorry, I don't know about this. 1126 00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:44.320 Well they don't. They have some weird dog people kind 1127 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:50.039 of alien stuff like in their in their Japanese. Yeah, 1128 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:52.480 sure have an ancient alien cargo coltail on their focal 1129 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.000 And maybe I'm misconstruing the name of it, but I 1130 00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.360 don't think they're only they're dog people. But there's dog 1131 00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.679 something like dog Gone in the Africa. It's something similar 1132 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:01.599 to that name. 1133 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.280 Like an elite bloodline. 1134 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:06.440 Yeah, And I think that the dog thing is only 1135 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:10.719 referencing serious, right, it's only which the Mormons, which the 1136 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.440 rosis you know, you name the ancient alien cargo cult. 1137 00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:18.400 Is they love sirious fucking I'm muted. Yeah, the dog 1138 00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:23.880 on trap Dade reference right, the serious reference right to 1139 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.039 do goone, but they have a similar it's not do Gone, 1140 00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:29.559 but it's something similar in reference to the Japanese folklore. 1141 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:31.440 But it's I think it's all the same reference to 1142 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:33.079 the serious mm hmm. 1143 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.920 He thought he was better than everybody else, Christ. 1144 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.599 And typical boot I'm saying, did he envision these aliens 1145 00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.360 and being of some other race than himself? Was he 1146 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:46.559 one of these kind of characters? 1147 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.760 He called it the bean, didn't he? 1148 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.679 No, that was Chris Cordo. Oh, I didn't get into 1149 00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:52.960 that one. 1150 00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:57.079 Sorry, I'm on a different These all got so jumbled. 1151 00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.119 I'm actually it's no. 1152 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.119 It's kind of fun to like break them apart because 1153 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.840 it was like we cramped for a study once a week, 1154 00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.119 we each did a cult and then moved on to 1155 00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:06.960 the next one. 1156 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.280 But I'm always the background of these folks and what 1157 00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.960 their belief system is, right, because like Dwight Yorke, remember Nick, 1158 00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:18.920 the guy from from the Wesley Snipes ancient alien crogon 1159 00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.679 called they're the new Abbion nation, you know he he 1160 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.800 he mashed together where he was from Mars, like he 1161 00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:27.239 had he had Lenias from Mars. You're saying Venus, he 1162 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.679 his came from Mars, I think, but you know, you uh, 1163 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.440 you know, came to Earth and married the Morris people 1164 00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.639 or something like that, and he's yeah, weird. He had 1165 00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.280 some wild tales, but his aliens looks a lot like him. 1166 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:41.320 Sometimes that doesn't, isn't the case? 1167 00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:43.639 Crazy? 1168 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.679 Yeah, I didn't get too much into the mythology of 1169 00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.039 this guy because there's just so much of it. 1170 00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.079 But it does sound a lot like what you're talking there. 1171 00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.159 I mean, it's funny too, how much they just kind 1172 00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:56.920 of shuffle the story around a little bit. 1173 00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:00.719 Oh it's Venus, now is Mars over here the planet? 1174 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:03.559 Last last season, last cult we had, you know, you 1175 01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.239 got to change the change up the game, lineup a 1176 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:10.400 little bit, brings new characters, right, bringing the cousin from 1177 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.480 the country that comes far in the city sitcom. You know, 1178 01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:14.840 they gotta they gotta switch up the game a little bit. 1179 01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:16.719 It's always the same formu like you're saying, these cults 1180 01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.039 always have the same formula. I think that's what speaks 1181 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.800 to the spooky operations to me, right, because why would 1182 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:26.480 they all be the same kind of kind of organizational playbook. 1183 01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.400 Right, Well, it reminds me of religion, like basic stories 1184 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.079 with details that are very disparate, but at the same time, 1185 01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.000 it's the same fucking story. It's just we have cultural 1186 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:40.800 influences on these stories and I can't I think that's 1187 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.320 what they do with these cults. And it's so funny 1188 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.400 that most of the notable ones come out of Northern California, 1189 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:47.719 which was the Petrie. 1190 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:48.639 Dish of culture. 1191 01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:53.440 F sixties, and I mean all of it stems from there, 1192 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.559 and then it branches out across the world because you 1193 01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.519 didn't see this ship in the thirties and forties. 1194 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.119 Really, I'm sure it was going on like the occult kind. 1195 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:05.760 Of stuff, but it's almost like those people set up 1196 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:09.079 all this these systems to kind of just like make little. 1197 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:11.679 Experiments. 1198 01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.079 But these people know the rituals and what you need 1199 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.400 to do to get into a person's head. And I 1200 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.840 mean a lot of these people are scientology, CIA, what 1201 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:21.960 have you all of it. 1202 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.039 So I think what happened when we see over the 1203 01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:25.880 years is stuff like you're talking about the I AM 1204 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.679 movement out of Mount Shasta reaches, the are nothern California, 1205 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.079 which has largely perpetrated a lot of the theosophical ideals 1206 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.400 into these ancient Allian Cargo cults. So it's theosoph you know, 1207 01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.360 Mormon Theosophical Society kind of mashy over the I AM 1208 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.440 over the years. But the process was as an operation, 1209 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.199 in my opinion, by these joint six Cia, to roll 1210 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:46.960 up all these other cults. Right, that's what we have 1211 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.119 four gods, That's why they can roll up all these 1212 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.599 other previous operations. Like the evangelical move kind of that 1213 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.840 kind of erupts at the same time that movement, doesn't. 1214 01:01:58.719 --> 01:01:59.840 I think we lost them. 1215 01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:02.519 They mistook him for GD. 1216 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.320 Took them out on my back. 1217 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:11.159 While we wait for him. I could continue. 1218 01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.360 But so you see William Brandham and the I AM movement, 1219 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:18.480 William Branham, evangelical I AM this, you know, the new 1220 01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:23.360 age human you know self, you know, you know materialization 1221 01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.920 nonsense movement. There they're doing the human movement. So these 1222 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.480 things all kind of go on. I think those are 1223 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.639 the pro to early spook operations. And you see the 1224 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:33.480 process comes in later, rolls all these things up, you 1225 01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:34.920 know what I mean, because they have four gods. And 1226 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:36.199 they can do that, they can roll up all these 1227 01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:39.679 previous operations like the evangelical Jesus freaks that they rolled 1228 01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.000 up in seventy four when they became the foundation of 1229 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.679 faith of the millennium. That would that would be rolling 1230 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.239 up the previous like William Brandham style of evangelical movements. 1231 01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:50.920 I'm just saying, like, that's why. I think what you're 1232 01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:52.639 saying is we see a lot of rupped out in 1233 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.639 Northern California region. That's why, because that's that was a 1234 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.480 previous operation that later gets rolled up through this well 1235 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:00.280 you know, look at I am there. They're the ones 1236 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:01.599 behind a lot of the QAnon stuff. 1237 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.440 Yeah, and this happy science shit locked arms with QAnon too, 1238 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.599 I mean really yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of. 1239 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:14.559 That is crazy. 1240 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.039 But so this guy ends up marrying a chick and 1241 01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.800 he he she was a bit younger than him, you know, 1242 01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.800 a hot follower. He got his pick of the litter, 1243 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.760 and I think her name was Kyoko, but she was 1244 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.639 supposedly aphrodite incarnate and they had a son together, and 1245 01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:37.079 she ended up heading the political party that spun out 1246 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:42.719 of all of this, called the Happiness Realization Party. And this, yeah, 1247 01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:46.800 this was in two thousand. Uh looks like eighteen. 1248 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.159 She was the Yoko to his John Lennon. 1249 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.719 No, this this was earlier in two thousand. She was 1250 01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.440 that took over everyone. Well, she ended up divorcing them 1251 01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.199 and the son left to when he was in his twenties. 1252 01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:02.960 His son has a. 1253 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.440 Funny story about whether they're deciding if he should channel 1254 01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.079 Michael Jackson or not right after he died. And I 1255 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:13.719 guess the Michael and Jackson channeling impersonation was so horrendous 1256 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.840 that they scrapped it. But his son defected when he 1257 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.880 was in his early twenties, said that his dad was 1258 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:20.559 making it all up and that he didn't want to 1259 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.239 be a part of it anymore. This is after his 1260 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:27.639 parents split and then Rioho got a much younger model 1261 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.360 and she was the incarnation of Gaya, so the overall 1262 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:36.679 he had to do aphrodite, so he went big with 1263 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:41.519 the new wife. But anyway, in twenty eighteen. As of 1264 01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.159 twenty eighteen, this Happiness Realization Party has a shitload of 1265 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:49.159 local councilors elected, but they don't have any international standing. 1266 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:52.400 But they still do exist. And this guy kind of 1267 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:55.119 died and just you know, fizzled out. In twenty twenty three. 1268 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.480 But another notable thing that they did was during COVID 1269 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:00.719 And this is when I knew I had heard of them. 1270 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.119 So they were offering spiritual vaccines because they said viruses 1271 01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:08.239 didn't exist, and they would offer it was a rolling scale. 1272 01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.280 You were paying anywhere from one hundred to four hundred 1273 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:12.960 bucks and they and you would just pay him and 1274 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:13.519 they would. 1275 01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.880 Say a prayer for you. That was your spiritual Jabbi. 1276 01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:17.840 Wow, fucking a. 1277 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.920 I was going to say he died at age sixty 1278 01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:21.559 six too. 1279 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:22.800 Yes, he did. Good. 1280 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:28.400 That's uh, that's you see that see that a lot o. 1281 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.880 Did the spiritual vaccine have any powder attached to it? 1282 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:35.079 Are you sure that was a deal? 1283 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.639 It probably did and it Yeah, you got your powdered 1284 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.760 spike spiritual proteins. 1285 01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.440 That'll and it it. 1286 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.079 Was actually a suppository. You had to put it in 1287 01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:48.760 your b hole. 1288 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:50.639 Are you sure? 1289 01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:53.280 Whole spirit? 1290 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:59.199 That was satire, whole portals. 1291 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:00.639 Right, I was like one of the like blowing through 1292 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:01.559 a tube up there or something. 1293 01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:04.920 They read too much, Crowley, I think. 1294 01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:11.239 Yeah, Crowley, baby, I don't know why I'm wearing my 1295 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:14.920 led Zeppelin shirt on a cole rejects YouTube shirt, but 1296 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:15.880 you didn't go live today. 1297 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.559 So these folks were shing Ghan Buddhists. Is that would 1298 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:20.599 that be an accurate statement? 1299 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:24.679 I would say that the foundation definitely led there, but 1300 01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.159 it kind of just became its long crazy thing. 1301 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:31.079 But yeah, So so that's interesting to me because according 1302 01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:33.960 to the files of Ed Sanders, the author of the family, 1303 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.400 he alleges that the shing Ghan Buddhism was was the largest 1304 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:43.760 component of the Four Pie movements. Likely so all these 1305 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:46.800 all these the folks were about the chin Gon is 1306 01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.000 really shin Gone and it's shin Gun Buddhism. And it 1307 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.880 was a specific mis sex cult out of Japan that 1308 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:57.320 had mixed Cali worship with Tibetan with a Tibetan shing 1309 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.320 Gan Buddhism. But they called their leader of the Grand 1310 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:03.440 Shingun and that was allegedly Gordon Sanders mainly p Hall. 1311 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:07.800 But we also see a report out from nineteen eighty 1312 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.119 two from G. Kelly and Associates, Private Detectiveate and See 1313 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.599 of New York City, and they lists in their investigation 1314 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.079 a Buddhist statue being used in ritual human sacrifices in 1315 01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:20.159 the son of same crimes and the Atlanta child. 1316 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:25.639 Killings, killing in the name Buddha. 1317 01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.800 Yeah, so it speaks to this colie worshiping shing Ghan 1318 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.679 Buddhist cult if you ask me. But it's interesting these 1319 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:33.440 folks are doing shing Guan Buddhism. 1320 01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.199 Wow, fucking comes out of nowhere. 1321 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:40.599 Before we move on to the next one, JJ, you 1322 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.599 just sparked something I wanted to talk about with these 1323 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:44.639 other Japanese cults, So. 1324 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:46.119 I'm aboud to spark something else, but please continue. 1325 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:50.480 The Serenas guy what were their names, Pumshriam, cuss. So 1326 01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:53.639 they got in like a little public beef, spitting back 1327 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:55.880 and forth at each other, much like Elon and Trump 1328 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.199 are pretending to do right now, and. 1329 01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.599 They it was like a app battle. 1330 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.119 They're just talking ship in their lectures and then fucking 1331 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:07.599 suddenly this other guy, the saren Gas leader dude puts 1332 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:09.599 a hit on hit on Riojo. 1333 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:11.800 They lyric we're trying to bomb his car and ship. 1334 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.639 Which is not even a joke because that guy, the 1335 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:20.319 guy who was the leader of the Doomsday colt uh 1336 01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:23.520 what was his name, Osho Asahara. When they rated that 1337 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:29.560 guy's compound, he had weapons grade strains of a bola iris, 1338 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.720 he had helicopters, he. 1339 01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:36.239 Had he had compounds set up in Australia through these 1340 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:38.840 offshoot groups where they had saren gas buried out in 1341 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.760 the Australian desert. 1342 01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.640 I mean, this guy was definitely definitely put a hit 1343 01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:44.439 out on Rio Hoo. Yeah. 1344 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.640 Well, I'm glad. I'm glad you said that because you 1345 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:52.439 remember the guy or the cult the Theodoo shot shinho Abbe, 1346 01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:56.520 the Prime Minister or whatever of Japan murdered him on 1347 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.119 that stage few years ago with that makeshift gun. Mm hmm. 1348 01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:02.159 They they had a lot of biological chemicals too within 1349 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.840 that cult that that was behind that, and they also 1350 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:09.720 planned on murdering uh some young Moon's wife, the leader 1351 01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:13.079 of the main offshoot of the Unification Church. Because you 1352 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.359 mentioned all this Trump backing, Well, the Unification Church loves 1353 01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.920 themselves with Trump, including the American offshoot with the Sun 1354 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.960 Yeoman's son, Sean Man. They're the they're the a K 1355 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.079 I'm sorry, they're the ar fifteen. Uh Jesus, you know 1356 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.760 offshoot of the Unification Church, the Iron and Rod Ministries. 1357 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:31.479 You familiar with them? 1358 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.079 I haven't heard of I haven't heard of them either. 1359 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.760 Interesting group. They're located in Pennsylvania. It's an off shot 1360 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:38.720 of the Unification Church out of South Korea, which was 1361 01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:42.319 a South Korean Intelligence CIA operation that George Bush was 1362 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:46.279 number one was what they called the Moonies. Yeah, that's 1363 01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:47.640 the Moonies, right, Yeah. 1364 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.079 I almost covered too similar to this one, but I 1365 01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:53.760 did look into the Moonies quite a bit. 1366 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:58.000 They're very similar to and and a lot of their 1367 01:09:58.000 --> 01:09:59.920 at least they're political and some of their you know, 1368 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:05.600 other belief systems to the the what's the right, the 1369 01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:09.560 right wing, extreme right wing, ancient alien cargo cult, Chinese 1370 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:15.960 cult there in New York, the Epoch Times, the like, Yeah, 1371 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.000 they fund Steve Bannon's operations. 1372 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:20.439 I know what you're talking about. Damn it. 1373 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:24.439 Yeahway you Why can't I think of the name of 1374 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:25.319 this group anyhow? 1375 01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.000 They do the type. 1376 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:29.760 Is it they do? 1377 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:30.680 Right? 1378 01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.680 Don't all looking at real quick? But they're striking. So 1379 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.279 it's interesting. You know, we see these these weird intelligence 1380 01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:45.560 biological agents, you know, equipped cults in Japan. Shot there 1381 01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.760 you go, thank you, thank you, sir. 1382 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:54.039 The Salong Gong, Yeah, that's right. 1383 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.000 Jimmy Fallon Gong the podcast. I think that. 1384 01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:57.159 Yeah. 1385 01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:58.520 I was like, was it there a cult like that 1386 01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:00.960 and Deer but you were in Deer Park at one point, actually, 1387 01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:01.880 I think and we'll know. 1388 01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.479 No, they have a Feurner acre compound much like Dwhy York. 1389 01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.560 It seems like Foreigner Acre compound is the proper size 1390 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.199 for these colts. Every time these these colts pop up, 1391 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.479 they have fourner acre compounds. Right, It's weird to me, 1392 01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:18.039 but you know the they're they're strikingly something they fund. 1393 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:21.159 Seve Bannon, by the way, that the Fallon Gong cult, 1394 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:25.720 that's all war room broadcast he does. That's all foul 1395 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.720 and Gong money. It's almost like the Golden Thang. Foull 1396 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:33.199 Young Gong is very is very strikingly sellar. So you 1397 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.560 see you see that. But this is the my point 1398 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:37.760 being with the Fallon Gong is all like the Unification folks, 1399 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.359 but the same the same cult there in Japan that 1400 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.479 was equipped the same way as you're describing that murdered 1401 01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:47.680 Shinzo app Abe fell up. They hadn't tended to Their 1402 01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:50.800 next target was the head of the Unification Church. So 1403 01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.680 these some weird cult wars. It seems like this going 1404 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.319 on amongst these folks, but it is obviously intelligence saving. 1405 01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.239 It seems much like the Unification Church again was a 1406 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:02.119 South Korean eligency. I a thing with the back to 1407 01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:05.079 back to when George number one was the Bush number 1408 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:08.239 one was the CIA director. Yes, the Moonies. 1409 01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:12.359 Yeah, when you kill the other cult leaders, you actually 1410 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:14.760 get to absorb all of the followers. 1411 01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.039 Only if you chop off their head Highlanders style headless. 1412 01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:25.520 I think it would be only one Japan cooked. I 1413 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:26.279 have another. 1414 01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:28.760 I have two more that I kind of wanted. 1415 01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:31.159 Well, the last two are are going to go quicker 1416 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.680 because they're the modern ones and they're still like going 1417 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:34.279 on kind of. 1418 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:37.720 But yeah, I wanted to talk about Twin Flames and 1419 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:39.119 then talk about that. 1420 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:40.199 Ship is fucked up? 1421 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:41.720 Have you heard of it? 1422 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:42.199 Yeah? 1423 01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:46.640 Should probably do well. Didn't you have one more before 1424 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:50.439 I had? Yeah? The Thuggies? Okay, have you guys heard 1425 01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:51.159 of the Thuggies? 1426 01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:55.399 You so from you? 1427 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:55.880 Yeah? 1428 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.920 You think you came on one of our one of 1429 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.000 the first Friday as you're on with us me and 1430 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.039 Nick there, we were talking some could stuff. I think 1431 01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:04.600 you brought that to my attention because I've never heard 1432 01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:05.079 of it before that. 1433 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.079 So I talk about the Thuggies briefly, and then after that, 1434 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.359 I think we should end on our two most modern cults, 1435 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:14.640 twin Flames, and I won't even say the name of 1436 01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:18.319 his because it's ridiculous and it gives too much away. 1437 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:19.119 But so the. 1438 01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:23.760 Thuggies, they are actually, in my opinion, one of the 1439 01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:29.000 oldest cults of all time out of India. Let me 1440 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:31.800 pull up my notes here because I want to tell 1441 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:35.600 you the time frame because the they, the Thuggie actually 1442 01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:39.560 were active for hundreds of years. I feel like, hang 1443 01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:44.479 on just a second. So the Thugie, uh, they come 1444 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.000 out of India and they have a body count in 1445 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:48.479 the millions. 1446 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:53.479 So they they got billions over there, right, what they 1447 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:54.399 got billions over there? 1448 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:54.560 You know? 1449 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.920 Yeah, So the Thuggie exists stood all the way back 1450 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.319 to seventeen sixty. So they really are one of the 1451 01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:11.399 oldest cults of all time. But where it really starts 1452 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:14.000 to get crazy is in the thirteenth century. That's where 1453 01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:18.680 most of the debauchery happened, when this guy named Burrahm 1454 01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.720 took over the Thuggy cult and it was all in 1455 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:27.159 a devotion to the goddess Cali. And I'm sure you 1456 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:31.359 guys are familiar with Cali worship and the blood letting 1457 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:36.000 and all of this, So they're one of history's deadliest cults. 1458 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:39.600 Somewhere in the neighborhood of two million people were murdered 1459 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:44.239 by the Thuggie, all in devotion to the goddess Cali. 1460 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:50.600 And they basically ripped and ran through India for like 1461 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:55.920 I said, hundreds of years. And they started using some 1462 01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:59.680 kind of psychedelic drug that they would give to their 1463 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.760 vict stems to make them trip out and basically be 1464 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.079 tripping ball guys. 1465 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.760 Right, Yes, this is where the word thug comes from. 1466 01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.319 Yes, this is this is. 1467 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:12.840 Where the word thug comes from, which is still used 1468 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:16.479 to this day. Obviously, the guy with like the amazing 1469 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:18.760 beard and the little to pay thing. 1470 01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:22.279 Uh got, he hates the world? 1471 01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:23.880 Yeah. 1472 01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.680 The guy right next to him is Brahm with the yeah. 1473 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.840 Right there, dude, I mean I can't scroll, So there 1474 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:38.319 we go. Dude, that's the face of a killer. 1475 01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:38.640 Dude. 1476 01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:42.039 Yeah, assassins or something. 1477 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:49.439 They were assassins, right, welse a lady killer jeels. I 1478 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.319 was going to say, I've seen these guys in James 1479 01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:52.319 Bond movies. 1480 01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:55.520 All of the James Bond movies. These are the villains 1481 01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:57.159 and the assassin guys. 1482 01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:59.439 Yeah that he fights out like the middle of the 1483 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.760 town with the snakes and shit. Yeah, yeah, dude, these guys. 1484 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.199 You don't want to mess with these guys. 1485 01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:09.039 No, definitely not, because they would Basically, they'd get their victims, 1486 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.000 they'd dose them with some kind of a hallucinogen so 1487 01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.359 they were tripping balls, and then they would strangle them 1488 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:15.800 to death. 1489 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:17.680 They never they never. 1490 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.920 Cut or stabbed any of their victims because that would 1491 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:24.520 be a waste of blood for Cali. So in order 1492 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.119 to preserve all of the blood so Cali could feast 1493 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:33.159 on it. In their theory is that they'd have to 1494 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:37.479 strangle their victims, but to subdue them, they would make 1495 01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:38.520 them hallucinate. 1496 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.039 So I mean imagine that is like, yeah, it was. 1497 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.680 It wasn't a boga, she said. The name of the 1498 01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:48.079 plant Bella Donna. No, it was some kind of thorn 1499 01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.600 apple ship. It was weird. It was one of those 1500 01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:53.840 if you're in the psychedelic world. 1501 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.800 Yeah, the touring they called it the Indian thorn Apple, 1502 01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:01.039 and then Hunter S. 1503 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.920 Thompson famously brought that back into the lexicon much like 1504 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.520 he did Adrena Crown the gypsum. 1505 01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:10.079 Yeah, and these guys were using it to dose people. 1506 01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.840 Like, can you imagine being tripping balls and then some 1507 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:15.359 Indian guy just strangling the ship out of you. 1508 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:17.760 Happened to me last night in my sleep. 1509 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:19.640 Oh god, I mean. 1510 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:30.720 What it actually so basically checking curry, you get. 1511 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.039 Indian thorn, apple of the bee hole when you need Oh. 1512 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.720 God, it was more of a metaphysical stomach strangling. But 1513 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.920 you know it's very similar. 1514 01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:47.680 Yeah, no ship, well actually ship because actual ship. So 1515 01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:51.720 the Thuggies went went on for for many years, but 1516 01:17:52.079 --> 01:18:00.239 Burrahm was eventually captured and he was killed for his crimes. 1517 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.880 But this is the part that gets me about this cult. 1518 01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:09.159 So many people speculated that this cult originated as assassins 1519 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.319 under the employ of one of the most ancient Indian 1520 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:16.560 families of all time, which is the Brahmin family. 1521 01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.840 I was waiting to see Headless's face because he's big 1522 01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.239 into camel te uh huh. 1523 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:28.720 So it shouldn't surprise anyone that Kamala Harris is part 1524 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.119 of this ancient Brahmin family. 1525 01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:36.359 I mean that where in for president, right. 1526 01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:41.119 So if the Thuggies were under they were just assassins 1527 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:44.880 under the employ of the Brahmin family. It makes sense 1528 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.279 because when you look at today there are presidential candidates 1529 01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:54.880 and many like the Weld family is connected to the 1530 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:59.920 Boston Brahmins and they are still an active elite family 1531 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:05.439 that is up to some weird ship. So members of 1532 01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:07.960 the Brahmin family that I might recognize would be like 1533 01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:14.079 President Calvin Coolidge, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Ralph waldo Emerson, Henry 1534 01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:23.600 Cabot Lodge, Samuel Adams, John Adams founding fathers. They also, yeah, 1535 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:25.399 they go back to the Brahmin cast. 1536 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:28.000 You mean Lee Harvey Oswald's third cousin. 1537 01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.319 Oh shit, is that right? 1538 01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.680 Yeah? Oswald's a member of the society, hereditary member. When 1539 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.279 was the lady there in South Carolina? Nicky Nicki Haley, 1540 01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:38.840 She's Indian Brahman. 1541 01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:39.439 Yeah. 1542 01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:48.880 Also John Carry is from the Brahmin cast, and John F. 1543 01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:53.039 Kennedy was not related to the Brahmin, but he was 1544 01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:56.359 associated with the Bramin through family connections and wealth. 1545 01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.159 So I mean even to this day. 1546 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:03.319 I meangies existed all the way back to seventeen sixty, 1547 01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:07.199 but if they were just assassins for the Brahmin family, 1548 01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:09.920 and the Brahmin family is still active very much today, 1549 01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:13.520 going all the way to Kamala Harris Julia, it doesn't 1550 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.319 surprise me at all. What's up? Pedless. 1551 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:19.239 Have you ever heard the Bill Cooper show Hour of 1552 01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:24.279 the Time. He had a whole series Mystery Babylon, Mystery Babylon. Right, Yeah, 1553 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.279 man goes over the Assassin Cult and they go all 1554 01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:28.239 the way back. 1555 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.680 To the Knight's templar and like even further. Yeah dude, Yeah, 1556 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:34.239 that stuff's crazy. 1557 01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:37.159 And then he dude that there's an episode on there 1558 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:41.359 where he gets into like the Bush Family and dates 1559 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.520 it all the way from like its origin. 1560 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:45.840 It's wild, dude. 1561 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:48.000 Well, see, that's the thing is, I think there were 1562 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:50.560 a lot of these ancient cults that are in some 1563 01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:53.359 ways still existing in some form today. 1564 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:54.680 And so the. 1565 01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:58.159 Thuggie while that's where the word doug comes from, and 1566 01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:01.319 that's still very much part of like our you know, 1567 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.479 pop culture thing is to call people bugs or whatever. 1568 01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:10.239 The only itself is actually anciently old and still exists 1569 01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:12.520 to this day, and they're in charge of like everything. 1570 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:15.239 And I feel like a lot of people are actually 1571 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.039 kind of unfamiliar with the Thuggy cult themselves. I mean, 1572 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.279 they've murdered millions of people throughout time, and that's a 1573 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:25.119 huge ritualistic sacrifice in my opinion. 1574 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:28.800 Absolutely, especially in the name of like one deity like 1575 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:30.319 that Cali or whatever. 1576 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.520 The blood drinking Cali, which I feel like is it 1577 01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:35.880 was Indiana Jones. 1578 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:38.720 Well, and that's one of the reasons they strength the 1579 01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:40.560 Indiana didn't want to spill the blood. 1580 01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:44.359 Right, So the guy in Indiana Jones, the Caliman guy, 1581 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.840 those are right, but I think they're somehow related. 1582 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:51.680 I think he was one of these guys. 1583 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:52.199 He was. 1584 01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.760 Yeah, these Indiana Jones guys would be descendants of like 1585 01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.239 the Hashish assassins there right, Yes, yes, it's the same thing. 1586 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.439 I'm pretty sure, dude, full show. No, I'll say so, 1587 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:05.560 we have a lot of misconceptions about that his Jesus 1588 01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:08.640 Sassins and the Knights Templar, but they were those two 1589 01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.039 were the same organization and they fought other Christian and 1590 01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.159 Islamic organizations. So we've been we've been sold some some 1591 01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.600 bunk news on some of these dynamics. But if you 1592 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:18.680 want to look for the modern day Knights Templar, that 1593 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:20.960 is the society the Cincinnati So you were naming some 1594 01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.920 Boston Brahman families, Julia, and that is a lot of 1595 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:27.159 those families have membership and representation in that in that group. 1596 01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:30.039 The Secret Society that started America, which is literally the 1597 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.600 modern incarnation of the Knights Simpler descendants of the Templar. 1598 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.199 Well, I feel like. 1599 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:36.960 They just rebranded them. 1600 01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:37.880 You know. 1601 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:41.000 It's like they used to be called the Thugie. Now 1602 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:45.119 they're called Society of Cincinnati. I mean, it's like the 1603 01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:48.199 same thing. And it's like they just recycle the leaders 1604 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:52.319 of the cult. They're like the henchman. So they killed Burrahm, right, Oh, 1605 01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:54.279 he was the bad guy that was in charge of 1606 01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.800 doing all this stuff. So they killed him. And it's 1607 01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.680 like that's when the Thugies dispersed and no more. Yeah, right, 1608 01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:04.319 because if you look at who was in control of them, 1609 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.640 they're still very active and they just have a new name, 1610 01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:09.239 the cult now Society a Cincinnati. 1611 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:09.880 It's like that. 1612 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.880 I don't disagree there. They're they're they're a goddess war 1613 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:17.680 goddess worshiping group. And there is some Collie art in 1614 01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:21.319 their headquarters that I have seen it. Not to mention 1615 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:23.800 Diane Athena, you know, this is the this is their 1616 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.359 you know, Hecatea, you know, so you know, I don't 1617 01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:30.000 I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think that's 1618 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:33.079 kind of why we see elements of that Shinghan Buddhism 1619 01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:36.359 and Collie worship that erupts within these later movements of 1620 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.720 this occultism in America. The process that is, so, I 1621 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.039 would argue all occultism in America goes back to the 1622 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.840 Society of Cincinnati. Joseph Smith was a member, for example, 1623 01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:50.399 the president of the Theosophical Society after Bolvatski. Abner doubl 1624 01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:53.279 Eday a member of the Society of Cincinnati. You see 1625 01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:56.800 o g membership in the processed church represented represented by 1626 01:23:56.880 --> 01:24:01.039 the Society of Cincinnati. Families, for example, Timanthy Wiley's wife 1627 01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:05.640 was the daughter of a Society Cincinnati member. Wow creepy 1628 01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:08.199 Hollywood film director John Waters, who joined I think in 1629 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:13.840 nineteen seventy or sixty nine in New Orleans. His third 1630 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:17.399 great grandfather was the surgeon general from Maryland for the 1631 01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.560 Society chapter in Maryland and the Wars of seventeen seventy six, 1632 01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:23.520 so he was very likely a member. Sam goes for 1633 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:27.159 Jack Parsons, his third great grandfather also a colonel in 1634 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.560 the Massachusetts chapter. Back to the Boston Brovince. So occultism 1635 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:32.600 in America comes from these but we see these elements. 1636 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:34.600 So these people, what I'm saying is these people we 1637 01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.920 see later in a gape lodge with parsons or the 1638 01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:41.720 process with the literally the dude's name is Satan Drayton Astor. 1639 01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:45.840 He's from the the Dradens of the South Carolina society family. 1640 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:48.399 The Astors are a New York society family. But that's 1641 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.760 his daughter marys Timothy Wiley. But we see these things 1642 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:53.880 in these groups today because it's in their blood lines. 1643 01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:56.640 They got it in their families, right, This got passed 1644 01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.079 down to them, this worship of these these occult practices. 1645 01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:01.880 Well, episode is quickly turning into. 1646 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:04.439 A barn burner, real barn burner. 1647 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:07.960 JJ is coming at us with the straight facts, like 1648 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:11.479 that's crazy. And I do think that the you know, 1649 01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:13.640 you can google it and it'll say whatever. But I 1650 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:17.800 think the state of California, I mean, I think that 1651 01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:20.000 that name says a lot and a lot of these 1652 01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:23.319 cults and weird shit come out of California. You know, 1653 01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.880 if you look at Jim Jones, that was California. I mean, 1654 01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:32.199 all the Laurel Canyon weirdness, it's all coming out of California, 1655 01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:34.039 So I mean it's. 1656 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:37.680 Was that where Dahmer was too. 1657 01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:40.640 No, Dahmer was in uh. 1658 01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:45.960 Milwaukee in the middle. Okay, but there is some weird 1659 01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:49.640 stuff with the Zodiac murderer coming up out of California. 1660 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:51.880 And also Ted Bundy spent a lot of time in 1661 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:52.960 California before he. 1662 01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:53.880 Returned to y. 1663 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:59.279 Yeah, in my opinion, then Jack Nicholson played his role 1664 01:25:59.359 --> 01:25:59.560 for a. 1665 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:04.119 While, right is that private private eye report of y'all 1666 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:06.920 want to check this out? From the comparing the Atlanta 1667 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:11.479 child commerce to the to the Son of Sam killing. 1668 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.680 So this was g Kellyan Associates out of Ulster County 1669 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:16.760 just north of New York City, I believe Kingston, New York, 1670 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:21.439 across the Huston from Westchester County. March of eighty two, 1671 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:24.479 so this was a eighty two report out of this. 1672 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:26.159 I don't even know who hired them, but this p 1673 01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:29.439 I agency right out of New York g Kellyan Associates 1674 01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:33.479 security and law enforcement consultants. So they do a comparative 1675 01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:35.720 analysis between crime scenes and they don't have all the 1676 01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:38.600 details listened here, but you'll see Atlanta child murders of 1677 01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:40.800 dendum so they'd done a previous report. I don't have 1678 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:44.000 a copy of that. You see introduction in Wayne Williams 1679 01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:48.720 Ritual Killings possible relationship to Burke which the dog Man. 1680 01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:51.000 You know, this is a very interesting report. But I'll 1681 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:56.439 just highlight this one aspect of Shingun Buddhism dog one second. 1682 01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:58.159 I'll put a link here in the chat if you 1683 01:26:58.199 --> 01:26:59.319 want to include this in the show notes. 1684 01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:01.000 Nike, Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1685 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.000 Michael Carr and some of his other associates a Burkawitz 1686 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:10.560 incorporated a Buddha figure in their ceremonies in the same 1687 01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:15.199 manner according to Shirley, that's the Atlanta child killing witness 1688 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:17.319 they have here. According to Shirley, that is that it 1689 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:23.319 was used in the Atlanta ceremonies. So that's a very 1690 01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:27.840 interesting comparative analysis with his shing Gun Buddhism aspects of 1691 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:30.479 this these ritual human sacrifices here in America and this 1692 01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:33.640 this Collie worship apparently as well as corn At Sanders, 1693 01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:36.039 the Collie worship was part of that shing Gun Buddhism 1694 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:38.039 cult that he was tracking. 1695 01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:39.760 MHM. 1696 01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:44.399 Do we have a lot of the correspondences going into 1697 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.000 and out of the process charge. 1698 01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.880 Uh. I mean there's various disparate archives of these things. 1699 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:55.680 One of the one of them in the University in 1700 01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:59.159 Toronto that they won't let anyone look at. There's there's a. 1701 01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:00.800 Whole pieces of we're not going to break in. 1702 01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:04.840 Okay, No, there's no there's and there's interesting people have 1703 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:07.840 stolen ship in front these archives. So like I went 1704 01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:09.079 to when I went to Princeton to look at the 1705 01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:11.920 Ed Sanders archives, I wanted to hear the tiny Lentini tapes. 1706 01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.560 You know, he's kind of the episode of this outlaw 1707 01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.199 biker activity with the process and allegedly at the scene 1708 01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.479 of things like Eton Pats's human ritual, human sacrifice in 1709 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.359 Westchester County according to him. But so we're never going 1710 01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.680 to hear those three or four hours of audio recordings 1711 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:28.920 and interviews that he that was conducted with him with 1712 01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:32.399 Ed Sanders in the nineties and moretary because someone made 1713 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:38.680 those things disappear. So when you look for communications, when 1714 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.279 you're your question headless, if there was anything important out 1715 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:43.840 there and vital information that's still out there, there's been 1716 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.000 operations to sweep these things up and cover it up 1717 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:50.359 in recent years, and I suspect it's gone to that, 1718 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.000 to that no moretarries files are so restricted from public 1719 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:58.119 access in large part, yeah, we only have a limited, 1720 01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:02.720 limited hangout version that was available of the public. I 1721 01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:06.920 can demonstrate that just I got some weird, slightly different 1722 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:10.479 set of documents mainly just the only thing more was 1723 01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:12.840 just communication between Berkowitz and Terry and their pent and 1724 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.399 pelship over the years. But I was able to pull 1725 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.039 some interesting details out of that even and you know, 1726 01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:21.520 just things that I know are in those files that 1727 01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:25.760 aren't released publicly. The number one thing is Mary Terry's 1728 01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:29.600 self self proclaimed investigation of the Orenthal J. Simpson case. 1729 01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.920 So he took that was his main focus of the 1730 01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.239 mid to late nineties by his own emission, but none 1731 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:37.279 of those are in his files. So that's just one example. 1732 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.600 So whatever communication, there was probably a lot of shit 1733 01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:43.039 out there had us, but we just you know, a 1734 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.079 lot of this shit's getting actively swept up. 1735 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.359 So what made it into the ultimate evil is that 1736 01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.159 just like the limit of shuring out shit you're talking about, 1737 01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:51.560 it's all bullshit. 1738 01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:55.199 Yeah, And Josh Eeman, the guy who snaked his way 1739 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:56.960 into Terry's life and got it the rights there. I 1740 01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:01.079 believe I started along with James Franco looking at Ed 1741 01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:07.000 Sanders files. Uh, Franco was calling Franco, this is what 1742 01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:08.720 I mean by a collective effort. So you got the 1743 01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:12.880 head of Satanic Temple, Doug aka Lucian Greaves there. They 1744 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.159 about assert they're an officer to the process. They use 1745 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:18.079 the piececope by their own missions, their own photographs, and 1746 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:20.840 their own statements. The pie scope is the processed Church 1747 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:24.399 version of the scientologists, you know, you know their little 1748 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.199 you know, it's their version of the the the E meter, 1749 01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:29.560 the e meter you hold the cans they call, there's 1750 01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:33.680 the piece cope, same machine. So you see those folks 1751 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:35.680 that dude's calling Ed SA. Why is that dude calling 1752 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:38.399 Ed Sanders in two thousand and nine, you know what 1753 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.560 I mean? Ed Sanders looking at his notes, he knew 1754 01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:42.039 it was up. He's like, fuck, he didn't write fuck 1755 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:44.439 this guy, but he he wrote fuck this guy basically, 1756 01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.000 you know. So you see that. Then you see Franco 1757 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:49.800 come in with Zieman shortly thereafter, tag team in both 1758 01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.560 Sanders and Uh and Terry and I don't know, I 1759 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.760 don't have overview of Terry stuff. And whatever I saw Sanders. 1760 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.880 Stuff could have been censored. They've already could have removed 1761 01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.239 stuff because, like I said, those tapes were gone by 1762 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:03.079 that point. So but what I did see, it seems like, 1763 01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:06.680 you know, Sanders thought something was up. He's still alive, 1764 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:08.119 if you know, he's nothing to talk about these things. 1765 01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:11.520 But Terry sins his rights over for the production of 1766 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.920 Ultimate Evil and to go to HBO an HBO series 1767 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.640 with James Franco. Josh Eemens is working him at the 1768 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:21.039 same time for what he later produces as this documentary series. Right, 1769 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:25.279 this is twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, right when before Terry's death. Right, 1770 01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:27.319 this is when they're working again. I this is from 1771 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:29.239 the purview ed Sanders is what I'm reciting here. 1772 01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:31.119 But the. 1773 01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:35.359 They turned, James Franco turned that that took those rights, 1774 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:37.399 did not make the HBO series of The Ultimate Evil. 1775 01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:40.760 Made a YouTube series from his production company where Mary 1776 01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:42.960 Terry's the bad guy and he dies at the end 1777 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:46.079 and then and that's called The Ultimate Evil. And then 1778 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.359 he made a movie called The Deuce The Deuces on 1779 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:50.319 HBO of many. 1780 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:53.359 The Q series or an industry series. 1781 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:56.399 Yeah, it's based on the essence Gay s and m 1782 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.239 porn series Mafia connections from the Ultimate Evil. You'll see 1783 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.640 Matthew I and l there, you'll see the character from 1784 01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:03.960 the Ultimate Evil. So it's based on the Ultimate Evil. 1785 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.520 That was the licensed options of the Ultimate Evil. But 1786 01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:09.199 he he took that, he took his own option, Franco 1787 01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:12.439 did and turned it into that bullshit. So he highlights 1788 01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.600 that literally, he celebrates the process pornography and gay gay 1789 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.479 s and m scene there in in New York City 1790 01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:21.000 in the eighties in that series, right, And two important 1791 01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:23.079 notes to take away from that is one of the 1792 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:28.760 researchers for Old Tom O'Neal and his book Chaos worked 1793 01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:32.920 for James Franco on that movie set and ran a 1794 01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:38.319 industrial rock magazine called Propaganda Magazine, which is expressly processed. 1795 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.359 So if you wonder what James Franco is interestedly when 1796 01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:46.239 he when he makes uh bastardizes Terry's work, makes Terry 1797 01:32:46.319 --> 01:32:49.359 the bad guy and then celebrates the process porno gay 1798 01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:52.479 club industry there and does so with a member who 1799 01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:54.960 was there present working for him and that guy who 1800 01:32:55.079 --> 01:32:58.479 ran a propaganda magazine from for all this you know, 1801 01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:03.039 process industrial rock music. Well, then he's the researcher for 1802 01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:05.279 Tom O'Neal in this book about Manson where they never 1803 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:08.720 mentioned the process. Well, that's strange, you know, so a 1804 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:10.119 lot of that's what this is, what I mean by 1805 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.640 this organized I call them the processed church cover upper movement. 1806 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:15.640 Fuckers. 1807 01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.359 But yeah, the it's active, you know. And I think 1808 01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:23.159 what we're discussing here in a lot of these these 1809 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:26.000 other that g Kelly report that didn't make the light 1810 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.520 to day for many years, these these Buddhists, Collie worshiping, 1811 01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.680 Shingung connections or you know, elements that were often kept 1812 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.199 in the dark from folks understanding what the dynamics of 1813 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:37.399 these cults and whatever the fuck they're doing. But understanding that, 1814 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:39.760 I think what quickly folks would understand that the smiley 1815 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:42.000 faced killers are an offshoot of these same activities. 1816 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:43.159 I agree. 1817 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:47.520 Wait till you hear this next one, Chris Corba or 1818 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:48.640 am I going first? 1819 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:49.079 Yeah? 1820 01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:54.920 All right, strap in for the Church of Euthanasia. Anybody 1821 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.439 here heard of that shit? No head lists you looked 1822 01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:01.560 like maybe j jj. 1823 01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:04.760 No, it's just descending into horror is unspeakable. 1824 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:05.560 No, I'm not familiar. 1825 01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:09.600 Nick knows all about it. 1826 01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:12.119 No, I know, I don't, but it's just like the name. 1827 01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:14.359 It's just like exactly what head Liss is saying, Like, 1828 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:15.079 what the fuck? 1829 01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.560 All right, so this one's last, that's my favorite? Is 1830 01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:26.239 your favorite? So this character named Chris Korda, Oh what 1831 01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:28.640 year was Chris Quorida born? And let me pull that 1832 01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:29.800 the eighties? 1833 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:32.199 It seems like an eighties kind of guy. 1834 01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:34.319 He's still alive. He's like, well she. 1835 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:39.279 She sorry, Tranny, We're. 1836 01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:40.520 Not gonna do the prime game here. 1837 01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.159 I'm sorry about that, but I'm gonna call Chris. He 1838 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.840 Chris is kind of bounced around the the identity spectrum, 1839 01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:49.079 but Chris. 1840 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.359 Kept his penis, so I'm gonna go with he. 1841 01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:54.680 All right? That works. 1842 01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.840 So Chris Korda was born in nineteen sixty two to 1843 01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:02.039 elite parents parents in New York City. I don't remember 1844 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:04.199 what his dad did. I think it was something in 1845 01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:09.079 like media magazine, mogul something like that, and his mom 1846 01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:13.039 came for money. They also, you know, raised him pretty 1847 01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:18.079 high class, and like often happens, when these liberal rich 1848 01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:22.000 kids don't have shit to give meaning to. 1849 01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:23.439 They create it. 1850 01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:27.840 And apparently Chris, at ten years old, saw New York, 1851 01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:31.319 which doesn't add up to me. Nineteen seventy two, Chris 1852 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:36.319 was ten and claimed to have read a headline from 1853 01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:42.000 the New York Times about global warming, but in the seventies, 1854 01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:44.960 I thought they were warning about a coming ice age. Anyway, 1855 01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:48.920 that's the story, and that just kind of changed the 1856 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.920 way that Chris looked at the world, and Chris wanted 1857 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:58.000 to make a difference. Got into college, was still to 1858 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:01.239 this day is a tech person, like really into the 1859 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:06.279 tech industry. And when in college, he was rooming with 1860 01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:10.079 this person who was an activist from the sixties. 1861 01:36:10.520 --> 01:36:13.239 And I don't remember this dude's name, but he was one. 1862 01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:15.760 Of those guys you know, probably there in Chicago in 1863 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:18.399 sixty eight and all that kind of stuff, probably a plan. 1864 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.079 Were talking students for Democratic Society or the Weather Underground. 1865 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:21.800 Yeah he was. 1866 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:24.119 He read this guy rubbed shoulders with all of that. 1867 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:26.720 Let me see if I can find that dude's name, because. 1868 01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:29.359 I would argue either an officer to the Processed Church 1869 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:31.680 or the Final Judgment Sir that in fact Bill Ayers 1870 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:34.000 ahead of the Weather Underground would write which formed out 1871 01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:37.520 of the SDS would celebrate Charles Manson and double Sirhan 1872 01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:40.760 throughout his life and various speeches and dedications and books 1873 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:46.319 both processings, you know, Sir Hans, Siran and old Charlie. 1874 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:51.119 Jesus. Yeah, I'm not finding this dude's name, but it 1875 01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:52.520 doesn't matter. We can just assume. 1876 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:54.479 Yeah, I didn't mean to go full process on. 1877 01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:57.880 No, no, no, I was hoping you would and you 1878 01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:01.399 didn't disappoint. Probably going to cut in because there's a 1879 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:04.359 lot of interesting shit in here. So Chris is rooming 1880 01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:08.079 with this guy in New York finds out has a 1881 01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:13.640 dream one night where he's visited by something called the Being, 1882 01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:19.399 and the being spoke in weird languages and he didn't 1883 01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:22.680 really get the message, but he woke up with a 1884 01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:27.319 line almost like psychically driven into his head, Save the planet, 1885 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:33.720 kill yourself, and he tells his roommate, this old sixties 1886 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:36.880 activist guy, that this is the message he got. So 1887 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:39.960 they kind of started something here, and it was basically 1888 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:43.439 they got a bunch of other wackos who and this 1889 01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.279 is nineteen ninety two, they take this shit to the 1890 01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:50.520 streets and they would show up with picket signs and 1891 01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:53.720 they would go like to kkk rallies and just like 1892 01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:56.680 push their message. And then they finally got attention when 1893 01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:00.479 they started going to like pro life rally and all that. 1894 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.039 They would walk around the crowds with like baby dolls 1895 01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:08.840 on pikes and chant their slogans like eat a queer 1896 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:15.640 fetus for Jesus, make love, not children, saved the planet. 1897 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:19.840 Kill theirself was their main slogan, and they started getting 1898 01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:22.560 some media attention. Now five years after all this, they 1899 01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:23.800 really made it onto the scene. 1900 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:24.439 They got onto the. 1901 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:29.199 Jerry Springer Show, and it was a fully formed religion 1902 01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:32.640 at this point, and they didn't call themselves a religion. 1903 01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:35.760 They called themselves a church. But they actually this part 1904 01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:38.560 we'll get to the Jerry Springer thing the second. But 1905 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:43.720 they file for religious tax exemption and the IRS came 1906 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:50.520 back and said, unfortunately, you don't qualify, but if you 1907 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.920 were to file as an educational foundation, you would be 1908 01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.640 fully tax exempt. So the United States government gives these 1909 01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:01.359 people educational foundation status. 1910 01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.600 And this is the message. They have four pillars, which 1911 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:04.920 is do. 1912 01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:07.119 You remember them, kill yourself. 1913 01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:09.600 Four pillars, Okay. 1914 01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:13.079 Side suicide, cannibalism. 1915 01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:15.159 That's that's one of the last ones. It gets to 1916 01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:16.039 get more shocking. 1917 01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:18.159 Eat your fetus. 1918 01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:23.600 Let me pull up the four pillars. But do you 1919 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:25.079 do you want do you want me to look up 1920 01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:25.840 the four pillars. 1921 01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:32.039 Yeah, I'll tell them about the Jerry Spring. So Jerry 1922 01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:36.239 has this setup to where this woman me to this 1923 01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:39.640 young woman who's thinking about joining the Church of Euthanasia 1924 01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:43.159 is the subject of the show. And they bring out 1925 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:48.600 uh Corda who comes out in full trans woman attire 1926 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:51.359 and pastor. 1927 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:55.199 Vermin like you know, Vermin V E R M I N, 1928 01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:57.119 and then this other guy. 1929 01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:01.319 So they start talking about the church and what it is, 1930 01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.920 and the four pillars are suicide, abortion. 1931 01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:11.039 Cannibalism, and sodomy. And he's talking about that. Where do 1932 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:11.920 I sign. 1933 01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:18.720 He's talking about the traditional definition of sodomy, like biblically nonprocreative, 1934 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:23.119 non pro creative acts of sex were encouraged, which does 1935 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.840 include anal but you know, you guys know about sodomy laws. 1936 01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:28.439 There was oral sodomy laws. They did target Gaze with it, 1937 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:32.880 but biblically sodomy is any sexual act nonprocreative. 1938 01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:34.560 So that's what he was pushing. 1939 01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:39.680 Now, suicide, he put emphasis on it has to be voluntary. 1940 01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.920 He can't want like a you know, jonestown type thing. 1941 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:45.800 He thought, you know, it's one way you can help 1942 01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:49.199 out abortion. So the main the four pillars are there 1943 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:51.000 one thing, But the only thing you had to do 1944 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:54.319 was give a one time fee of ten dollars and 1945 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:59.680 take a vow to never reproduce. So as long as 1946 01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:02.840 you never reproduced, you couldn't get excommunicated from this group. 1947 01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.800 And then, like other cults. A little side note, some 1948 01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:08.920 people even say this group wasn't a cult. I think 1949 01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:13.239 it was, but they had actual people killed him. Yeah, 1950 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:15.399 so as we get further down the line, this actually 1951 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:18.600 does take hold. But they had like a stronghold of 1952 01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:23.800 physical membership in the hundreds, but online this thing started 1953 01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:26.199 spreading and is actually still active today. 1954 01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:28.079 It's supposedly making a comeback. 1955 01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:33.159 But he had his Springer appearance and he ends up 1956 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:37.199 hooking up with this political activist and they start a 1957 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:44.840 party to get ted Kazinski elected as president. And a 1958 01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:47.199 little side note here, the funny thing they had some 1959 01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:54.119 ordained saints, doctor Kraborkian and Margaret Margaret Sanger. 1960 01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:57.520 This all sounds very discording like extreme ocation. 1961 01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:03.079 So they actually practiced this Scordian and they really took 1962 01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:04.920 their It's called Dottiism. 1963 01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:08.119 Yeah, it's the organizational structure that's telling to me as well. 1964 01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:10.399 But the also the O the philosophies, as you're saying. 1965 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:12.800 In World War One, there was this art movement where 1966 01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:18.159 it was completely satire, street performative, and they would make 1967 01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:21.479 collages and stuff, and a lot of these protest movements take, 1968 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:25.560 you know, notes from this dottist movement. Discordianism I think 1969 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.000 came out of that too, But so apparently that's very old. 1970 01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:33.520 So you got to tell him about his fabulous music selection. Oh, 1971 01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:35.199 he's a techno musician too. 1972 01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:40.199 And during nine to eleven he wrote a song made 1973 01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:42.760 a music video that he posted a day after nine 1974 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:43.159 to eleven. 1975 01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:44.720 Do you remember what the song was called? 1976 01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:47.680 Baby Yo Baby. 1977 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:49.560 I don't remember the name of the song, but it 1978 01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:55.720 showed the towers falling, interlaced with hardcore pornography interlaced with sports, 1979 01:42:56.680 --> 01:43:01.279 and then he would masturbate and wipe himself with an 1980 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:05.920 American flag and even his members were like, whoa dude, 1981 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:07.119 this is wow. 1982 01:43:07.359 --> 01:43:09.520 Dude. Yeah, I would have been like, whoa, bro, I'm 1983 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:11.600 out of here. It's a little too much. 1984 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.119 Yeah, and this guy today, when I was researching this, 1985 01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:19.279 I pulled up some like pro Oh, what do they 1986 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:21.600 call it? Anti natalism? 1987 01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:25.439 These anti natalist podcasts have this guy on you can 1988 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:27.399 listen to him. Within the last couple of years he's 1989 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:30.439 made making appearances and they're like touting. 1990 01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:31.279 And holding this guy up. 1991 01:43:31.560 --> 01:43:36.239 And he claims now that you know, he wasn't an agent. 1992 01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:40.600 He said that, or an operative. He said, I used 1993 01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:42.800 the street tactics of any operative. 1994 01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:45.600 I knew what I could do. I knew the buttons 1995 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:47.840 I could push without getting the shit entirely kicked out. 1996 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:50.399 I mean, he did get assaulted several times at these rallies, 1997 01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:55.279 but he also knew when it had, you know, it 1998 01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:58.079 kind of had ran its course with him. He stepped 1999 01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:03.199 back in the mid two thous and started kind of 2000 01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:07.119 just letting the other people run it. And it's all 2001 01:44:07.439 --> 01:44:11.960 about performance, it's all about being absurd. And he's contradicted 2002 01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.600 his own message on several occasions. 2003 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:16.680 Yeah, he's still alive and hasn't killed himself. That would 2004 01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.720 be number one. So he loved suicide so much. 2005 01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:23.359 In nineteen ninety nine, he was interviewed by a publication 2006 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:26.600 and at that point nobody had killed themselves in name 2007 01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:30.279 of the in the movement. But he did say it's 2008 01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:32.359 a shame that no one has and that we don't 2009 01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:35.800 get sued by their parents because then that would bring 2010 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:38.560 us a lot of attention. So in two thousand and three, 2011 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:40.960 I think I might have that year wrong, but it 2012 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:43.079 was somewhere in the early two thousands someone did it. 2013 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.760 And when he said to kill yourself, he said, if 2014 01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:48.720 you do it, put like one of our pamphlets next 2015 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.640 to your body, or have our website pulled up, put 2016 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.439 my playlist on and so that the website's still active 2017 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:55.720 today if you want to take a peek at it. 2018 01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:59.399 But anyway, so one person did commit suicide that was 2019 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.000 attributed then, but he has claimed that there were many, 2020 01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.279 and he says he does have a little remorse for. 2021 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:07.880 That, but you know, not too much, not enough to 2022 01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:08.680 kill himself. 2023 01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:11.760 People have asked him, well, why don't you kill yourself, 2024 01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:14.199 and he said, well, if I do, it'll be my 2025 01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:16.079 decision and I'll do it when I feel like it. 2026 01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:18.199 So I want to cough out. 2027 01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:21.720 I have no I was just reading similar details. This 2028 01:45:21.800 --> 01:45:23.840 is such a fascinating till I've never heard of these 2029 01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:25.439 people before, so I appreciate. 2030 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:28.960 You all crazy, he shoshed me when he brought this up. 2031 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:32.239 This is the son of the head of Simon and 2032 01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:33.600 Schuster for forty. 2033 01:45:33.399 --> 01:45:36.319 Years Simon and Schuster. 2034 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.960 That's publisher the third largest publication. This call this transitor 2035 01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:42.520 Culader is the son of that of Simon and Schuster. 2036 01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:44.520 I you want to talk about connected right. 2037 01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:48.560 There, right gg, isn't this the craziest ship you've ever seen? 2038 01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:51.079 He's coblicly disavowed his parents, which. 2039 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.800 We know how that, yes, so did Jim Morrison. 2040 01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:57.439 Yeah, that's that's clever. No buy these things, but I 2041 01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:00.760 do appreciate that the details are. That's always an interesting dab. 2042 01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:02.479 They're like, oh, I hate my parents, Yeah, of course 2043 01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:02.680 you do. 2044 01:46:02.920 --> 01:46:03.119 Yeah. 2045 01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:05.479 I haven't seen my dad since we took a picture 2046 01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:07.079 in his naval ship six months ago. 2047 01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:10.399 Exactly when and when I in the sin that check 2048 01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:13.840 last week they sent me. But the you know, well, 2049 01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:15.960 Bill Airs is from Chicago. There were the SDS and 2050 01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.359 the weather underground. His his daddy was the head of 2051 01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:22.239 the Chicago Power Company. So you know, in Chicago serves 2052 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:23.880 as a published and these are just the thoughts I have. 2053 01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:26.640 You know, they're going through my brain hole. Chicago serves 2054 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:28.920 still today as the center of public publications for all 2055 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:33.159 print media in America. So you know, you see, the 2056 01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.880 son of the third largest publisher in America, you know, 2057 01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.359 doing these things. You know, he really draws the question, 2058 01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:41.840 what the hell's going on here? 2059 01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.359 Church of Youth and Asia and this one, to me, 2060 01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:46.680 I think it's interesting that the government allowed them to 2061 01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:49.840 be an educational foundation with the messages they're pushing, and 2062 01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:53.119 also the fact that they were really ahead of their 2063 01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:57.039 time because these these things they're they were doing now 2064 01:46:57.279 --> 01:46:58.479 are just commonplace. 2065 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:01.399 Back then, they were kind of, you know, groundbreaking for 2066 01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:02.520 doing that kind of shit. 2067 01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:07.520 And they didn't take money. They sold bumper stickers with 2068 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:09.279 their slogans on it. He said, they may have made 2069 01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:11.319 one hundred thousand dollars, but they just put it back 2070 01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:12.439 into producing. 2071 01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:14.720 More merchs in Asia. 2072 01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:19.840 And so to me, it's like a complete front for 2073 01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:23.079 pushing a new narrative that now we have like Credit 2074 01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:26.560 Thumberg running around and all this stuff wasn't going on 2075 01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:28.760 back then, and these guys did kind of bring it 2076 01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.800 to the forefront. And they also to bring back Project Mayhem. 2077 01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:35.439 They did very Project Mayhem ask things that you know, 2078 01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:39.479 at one phase in the movie where they're defacing Starbucks. 2079 01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.760 And all that kind of stuff, they did shit like that. 2080 01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:45.119 I mean, they would get arrested, get a lot of attention, 2081 01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:49.079 move on to the next op I saw you. 2082 01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:53.520 It's important to note that when we were doing this 2083 01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.640 series like we were, I don't know if we were 2084 01:47:56.720 --> 01:47:59.680 doing it intentionally, but I was definitely always trying to 2085 01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:02.800 want him with my cult. So I would pick a 2086 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:04.920 cult and he would pick a cult, and we wouldn't 2087 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:07.479 tell each other which one we picked, and then we 2088 01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:11.000 would like cover stuff about it. And when he brought 2089 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:12.760 this shit up, it's like, how the fuck do you 2090 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:13.279 top that? 2091 01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:16.760 How the fuck do you top Church of Euthanasia? Like, 2092 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:19.039 what the fuck it? I had never heard of that 2093 01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:19.720 shit in my life. 2094 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:20.720 That shit's wild, man. 2095 01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:25.600 So what I did was the Twin Flames cult to 2096 01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:27.119 rival the Church of. 2097 01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:30.399 Youth what I originally I walked into the last week 2098 01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:33.600 of this going all of these are so similar, Like 2099 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:35.880 we got to find some that just stick out. So 2100 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:38.680 I was trying to choose between Twin Flames and this 2101 01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.880 Church of Ethanaia, and I told her and she's like, oh, 2102 01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:44.000 I'll do the Twin Flames, and that one, to me. 2103 01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:46.720 I think is more interesting. It might be. 2104 01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:50.000 I think it's a good one to end on for sure. 2105 01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:53.199 Yeah, and just how modern it is, So are. 2106 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:56.760 You guys familiar with the concept of a twin flame. 2107 01:48:57.439 --> 01:49:00.399 Let me just first start with that everybody, that is 2108 01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:02.000 pretty much okay, I. 2109 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:08.800 Am not Julian a heterosexual man, but please so all right, JJ. 2110 01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:12.520 The the concept of the twin flame is very similar 2111 01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:16.319 to that of like having a soulmate. So you know 2112 01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:19.000 how when people meet and they're like, oh, you know, 2113 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:21.119 I knew I was gonna be with them. There were 2114 01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:24.479 soulmates've been, We've done many lifetimes together. 2115 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:25.119 Da da da. 2116 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:28.760 So the concept of the twin flame is not that 2117 01:49:28.920 --> 01:49:32.760 you met like your soulmate. It's that your soul at 2118 01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:37.279 some point broke apart into two pieces and you're only 2119 01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:40.680 half of your soul and you have to find the 2120 01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:44.079 other half of your soul in another human being, and 2121 01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.840 when you meet that person, it's considered to be your 2122 01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:50.199 twin flame, and that you're just two halves of a 2123 01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:51.000 whole person. 2124 01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:54.119 And then you can say the famous Jerry Maguire line, 2125 01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:56.439 you complete me, you compete. 2126 01:49:56.479 --> 01:49:58.520 I mean, this is literally like your other half, the 2127 01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:03.159 indi or yang, And it's really big in astrological circles, 2128 01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:04.880 like they throw that term. 2129 01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:09.319 Around because the word well, I feel like because a soul. 2130 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:11.079 Now you mentioned that, I hear that turn around a 2131 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:14.000 lot jokingly amongst the community of some of my folks 2132 01:50:14.039 --> 01:50:18.199 of the interwebs in the Idaho for community, particularly Lucy 2133 01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:19.880 morning Star of the Princess of Darkness. 2134 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:22.359 She's a twin flame thing. 2135 01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:24.399 Yeah, this is the key. Yeah, some of my some 2136 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:27.039 my media over there, they like to joke around about 2137 01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:29.840 this twin flame concept. I don't know, familiar with the 2138 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:32.159 ins and outs of it. So now I'm starting to 2139 01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:34.439 piece these things together. But yeah, when you say it 2140 01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:37.399 gets tossed around that that astrology community, I see that 2141 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:38.479 now I've seen it. 2142 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.960 It's a very new agey concept and it is a 2143 01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:46.960 big part of New Age spiritualism particular. I'm not gonna 2144 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.000 sit here and say that I don't think there are 2145 01:50:49.199 --> 01:50:52.239 aspects of like soulmates and stuff like that that isn't true, 2146 01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:55.560 because I feel like you could meet somebody and be 2147 01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.399 in a non romantic relationship with them, like a friendship, 2148 01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:01.880 and feel like they're a soulmate or something like that. 2149 01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.960 Like you know, obviously I call them mates. 2150 01:51:06.439 --> 01:51:07.520 You know James. 2151 01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:13.520 Bob soul tribes where he's like, yeah, you come back 2152 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:15.159 playing different roles to each other. 2153 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:17.079 Like your mom could be your soulmate. 2154 01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:19.520 I don't know, Like romantically speaking, it seems like so 2155 01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:20.560 this is an actual cull. 2156 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:24.880 It is a cult. It is a cult, but. 2157 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.680 It's not and it's not exclusively sexual what you're saying. 2158 01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:30.600 It's also it could be plutonic. Well, I think so. 2159 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:34.039 In my opinion, they have taken the twin flame thing 2160 01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:36.680 and made it romantic. But I think you can have 2161 01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:40.760 a soulmate to me a non romantic person, Like, in 2162 01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:44.319 my opinion, you can be a best friend or like 2163 01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:48.039 whoever and feel like you've done lifetimes together. I think 2164 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.479 that's one thing to say. But like in this twin 2165 01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:55.239 Flames cult, it's all about romance and sex. And basically 2166 01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:58.920 this these two people, their name is Jeff and Saliah. 2167 01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:03.920 They were aimed to theirselves divine. So Jeff and Salia divine. 2168 01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:04.279 Yea. 2169 01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:06.119 She was originally Megan Plant. 2170 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:10.640 Yeah, her her real name is Megan Plant. And I 2171 01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:16.319 don't remember what Jeff's last name was. It was like, yeah, 2172 01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:17.680 Jeff Eon, which I. 2173 01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:19.560 Think is cooler. That's cooler. 2174 01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:21.119 Yeah, well. 2175 01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:27.079 Ye Interestingly, he kept the. 2176 01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:30.600 Jeff, Yeah, he kept Jeff, and Meghan became. 2177 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:35.000 Yeah, Shalia. 2178 01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:40.159 Jeff and salia divine and so basically they said they 2179 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:44.239 were twin flames in that they had a divine gift 2180 01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:49.239 of being able to tell you how to find your 2181 01:52:49.359 --> 01:52:55.159 twin flame relationship and how to bring your twin flame 2182 01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:58.239 to you if you haven't met them already. For the 2183 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:00.840 low low price of two high hundred and twenty two 2184 01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:05.920 dollars a month for a twelve month program, they could 2185 01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:07.600 help you find your twin flame. 2186 01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:11.000 This is how it started, well and manifesting. Huh. 2187 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:14.159 Well, so, he as a kid would tell his friends 2188 01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:17.159 that he was both going to be a millionaire and 2189 01:53:17.279 --> 01:53:18.880 didn't you say something about starting a cult. 2190 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.159 So he said when he was in college that he 2191 01:53:22.319 --> 01:53:24.319 was going to become a millionaire and that he was 2192 01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:25.319 going to start a cult. 2193 01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:27.279 And he wasn't into this romance shit. 2194 01:53:27.319 --> 01:53:30.279 He was pushing like health hacks, health hacks and not 2195 01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:32.399 really making money doing it. And then he meets her 2196 01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:36.800 through online dating and they scheming together with her belief system. 2197 01:53:37.439 --> 01:53:40.680 Yes she's the one who brought the Yes, she did, 2198 01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:43.439 but she's the one who brought like the weird new 2199 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:46.079 age spiritualism into his life. 2200 01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:49.439 Behind every heister, there's a bitchy woman fucking telling him 2201 01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:49.640 what to. 2202 01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:55.399 Do with petulipits, and so these two team up together 2203 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.479 and they're like, all right, we're going to tell everybody. 2204 01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:00.720 They start a YouTube channel and they're like, we're going 2205 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:02.720 to tell everybody how to meet their twin flame. 2206 01:54:02.800 --> 01:54:03.199 Da da da. 2207 01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:05.359 Like I said, it's two hundred and twenty two dollars 2208 01:54:05.399 --> 01:54:10.039 a month for a twelve month program. And so within 2209 01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:13.359 the first year that they have this course available online, 2210 01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:16.760 they're already they've already made over a million dollars. So 2211 01:54:16.920 --> 01:54:21.399 they're quickly millionaires. And they keep having to up the 2212 01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:25.239 ante because people are not finding their fucking twin flames, 2213 01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:28.439 even after they've paid thousands of dollars to Jeff and 2214 01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:31.399 Shellia and it's been going on for a couple of 2215 01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:32.439 years at this point. 2216 01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:34.680 So what they do is. 2217 01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:40.359 They tell these people, uh, you could say, I think 2218 01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:42.760 my next door neighbor is my twin flame, and they 2219 01:54:42.760 --> 01:54:46.000 would give you advice to stock them, to follow them, 2220 01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:52.399 to work to basically harass these people. And it's like, well, 2221 01:54:52.479 --> 01:54:55.520 if they're not into it, just keep pushing harder. People 2222 01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:59.880 were getting arrested for stalking, people were getting somebody started 2223 01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:03.399 stalking Ryan Gosling. That was a part of the Twin Flames. 2224 01:55:03.479 --> 01:55:09.800 Coulton got a restraining order and so they they would 2225 01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:12.079 tell people like, as long as you feel like it's 2226 01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:14.520 your twin flame, even if the other person doesn't think 2227 01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:17.000 that they are, you just stalk them to death until 2228 01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:19.600 they agree to be in a relationship. 2229 01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:22.720 One woman went to jail, Yeah, she did go to 2230 01:55:23.159 --> 01:55:25.319 and then came back out and started going back to 2231 01:55:25.399 --> 01:55:28.079 the Twin Flames Universe TFU, and they told her. 2232 01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:31.359 Did don't stop. Yeah, they were like, try harder. 2233 01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:34.880 One girl she was a little sister of one of 2234 01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:39.039 the original members, and she they told her, you know, 2235 01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:42.119 just keep your hopes up. Maybe some random guy is 2236 01:55:42.159 --> 01:55:44.119 just going to send you a Facebook message that could 2237 01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:46.159 be your twin flame. She gets this message from a 2238 01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:48.800 guy that day. He sent her a song and said 2239 01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:51.439 you're cute. They tell her that's their twin flame. She 2240 01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:52.600 moves to where he is. 2241 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:58.000 He's a certified schizophrenic. He's a paranoid schizophrenic. 2242 01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:01.239 She's like, I don't know if this is him and 2243 01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:03.359 what match van in hell? 2244 01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:08.880 He literally throws ship at the walls. He does anal digging, 2245 01:56:10.039 --> 01:56:12.680 Oh what the fuck. 2246 01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:14.960 Sounds wild? 2247 01:56:15.079 --> 01:56:18.279 Does an wild But he sent her. 2248 01:56:18.159 --> 01:56:20.920 A message on Facebook, and they said, that's your twin flame. 2249 01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:24.520 So she moved to like Montana or wherever this guy was, 2250 01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:28.279 moved in with him, then realized he was a paranoidhit's 2251 01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:29.359 a friend of nineteen. 2252 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:32.960 He's like, she's nineteen, he's like thirty something. It was 2253 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:33.640 like forty. 2254 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:35.800 Holy shit, dude. 2255 01:56:36.359 --> 01:56:39.840 And so she's like, hey, this guy, you know, he's 2256 01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:42.000 got mental illness. He's into it. 2257 01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:51.640 He's into like anal digging. The fuck is you remember 2258 01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:53.319 this part the original presentation? 2259 01:56:54.199 --> 01:56:55.720 What the fuck is digging? 2260 01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.640 It's like sounds like I might involve hands Richard Gearnet. 2261 01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:03.239 She's like, I don't know if this is my It's 2262 01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:05.279 like the device is the hampster. 2263 01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:08.560 Well then they told her, they told her it was 2264 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:10.960 her fault, that he was like that she hadn't done 2265 01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:11.800 her shadow work. 2266 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:12.119 They do. 2267 01:57:12.399 --> 01:57:16.680 They incorporate a lot of youngst this your twin flame 2268 01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:18.279 is a complete fuck up. 2269 01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:19.960 You need to work on yourself. 2270 01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:26.000 If your twin flaming, you're fucking up, right. That's some 2271 01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:27.159 of the run. 2272 01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:32.039 So they tell this like seventeen year old girl that 2273 01:57:33.159 --> 01:57:35.600 she's nineteen nineteen year old girl. So they tell this 2274 01:57:35.760 --> 01:57:37.680 nineteen year old girl that it's her fault that this 2275 01:57:37.800 --> 01:57:40.600 guy's into anal, digging and doing all this stuff, and 2276 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:44.159 I just stay with him. She lives with him for 2277 01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:47.319 like three years before she just cracks and runs away 2278 01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:50.319 and seeks But this is the. 2279 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:54.239 With this cold and so anal spunky. 2280 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:57.039 That's a wild colt. This is a wild colt I've 2281 01:57:57.079 --> 01:57:57.479 never heard of. 2282 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:01.640 Listen to this JJ. So, like five years into this cult, right, 2283 01:58:03.279 --> 01:58:07.159 they get this. They get this woman from the military. 2284 01:58:07.319 --> 01:58:10.199 She's some kind of military psychiatrist to be a part 2285 01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:14.239 of their team. And if you pay her three hundred 2286 01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:17.359 and thirty three dollars a month for a twelve month program, 2287 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:21.760 she will implant false memories into your head of being 2288 01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:26.239 sexually molested by your parents and convince you that you're 2289 01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:30.720 transgender and that actually your twin flame has been a 2290 01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:34.680 member of the cult this entire time. And so the 2291 01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:37.680 problem was they had eighty percent women in the cult 2292 01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:41.920 and twenty percent men. So they implant these false memories 2293 01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:45.560 into these people's heads that they were actually transgender and 2294 01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:49.920 that their twin flame was another woman in the cult. 2295 01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:54.600 So to me, that's what that's what the sociologist said. 2296 01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:59.239 Yeah, and she was a military intelligence therapist getting money 2297 01:58:59.239 --> 01:58:59.880 from the Pentagon. 2298 01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:04.239 By the way, were talking John joh Lalich, No, it 2299 01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:07.960 was a female. Yeah. She looks like a hardcore bulldog 2300 01:59:08.079 --> 01:59:12.239 lesbian and she's a devout Marxist. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 2301 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:14.960 real classic all I'll just reading your biography. 2302 01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:16.680 Well I do. 2303 01:59:16.960 --> 01:59:18.479 Remember that about her though. 2304 01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:22.560 So she puts all these false memories into people's heads, like, oh, 2305 01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:23.239 you should. 2306 01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:28.600 Distant from your family. They're using false memory syndrome. 2307 01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.520 On the flip side, yeah, putting memories in your. 2308 01:59:34.680 --> 01:59:38.119 Memory syndrome. The False Memory Foundation was formed by CI, 2309 01:59:38.279 --> 01:59:40.840 you know, the CIA, to to dispel that the fact 2310 01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:42.720 that they can do these things, in my opinion. 2311 01:59:42.399 --> 01:59:46.600 And Temple was sucking his kids too, right, the guy, 2312 01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:47.439 that guy. 2313 01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:50.359 Was running it. Yeah, they expanded over these things, right. 2314 01:59:52.399 --> 01:59:53.720 So anyways, but it's. 2315 01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:56.319 The Tanny Temple fellow there, Lucy and Greeves. He graduated 2316 01:59:56.319 --> 01:59:58.760 from Harvard with a degree in false memory syndrome stuff. 2317 01:59:58.960 --> 02:00:01.640 Really that's great. Interesting. 2318 02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:03.960 You know he's associated with Pete Diddy and all that 2319 02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:04.399 shit too. 2320 02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:08.760 Yeah, dude, it man, I've been wanting to do an 2321 02:00:08.760 --> 02:00:09.640 episode on that guy. 2322 02:00:10.520 --> 02:00:13.039 It was crazy, I mean, trying to brag for her, 2323 02:00:13.119 --> 02:00:15.039 but like Theresa did like a show on that, like 2324 02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:16.600 when the whole thing first came out, and like the 2325 02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:19.159 stuff she mentioned the show that's just coming out now. 2326 02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:22.520 It's really funny how like you know, nobody hears about 2327 02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:25.439 it when someone like that puts it out, but when 2328 02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:25.760 the TV. 2329 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:30.800 It's it's interesting with this because it's, like Colby said, 2330 02:00:30.800 --> 02:00:35.079 it's like the reverse of false memories, like where kids 2331 02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:37.720 are actually getting molested and then they're like, no, you know, 2332 02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:40.279 you weren't. You just made that up. In the case, 2333 02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:42.359 it was like a bunch of normal people who had 2334 02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:44.560 never been molested, and she was like, yeah, you were, 2335 02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:47.039 that's why you're secretly a man inside. 2336 02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:47.840 And you're also a little boy. 2337 02:00:48.199 --> 02:00:52.399 You're also yeah, it's crazy working with him for years, 2338 02:00:52.439 --> 02:00:54.840 but then when this transgender shit started. 2339 02:00:54.560 --> 02:00:56.319 She I was hoping, you're going to get into that. 2340 02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:58.399 I don't know if it was like hypnotherapy, but it 2341 02:00:58.479 --> 02:00:59.119 was something like. 2342 02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:02.920 That, Wow, oh, Jared's family right. 2343 02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:05.359 Well, she would put them in a trance like state, 2344 02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:08.239 hypnotize them, and then tell them that they were a 2345 02:01:08.359 --> 02:01:13.520 man and that their twin flame was another female within 2346 02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:19.279 the cult. And so I think a large majority of 2347 02:01:19.439 --> 02:01:22.279 the couples that Jeff and Shalia put together that were 2348 02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:25.800 two females. The majority of them that they said, you're 2349 02:01:25.880 --> 02:01:29.720 actually a divine masculine or whatever. They ended up going 2350 02:01:29.840 --> 02:01:33.840 through the full transition, tits cut off, clits off. 2351 02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:37.039 They all have the receding hairline and beards. Now. 2352 02:01:37.319 --> 02:01:39.840 Yep, some of them defected over this, but the ones 2353 02:01:39.880 --> 02:01:43.239 that stayed even after the transition, some of them like 2354 02:01:43.520 --> 02:01:44.279 call their parents. 2355 02:01:44.319 --> 02:01:45.760 They're like, I don't know what to do. I made 2356 02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:48.399 a mistake. I made a mistake. I can't get out. 2357 02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:50.399 I have no glitterists now. 2358 02:01:51.840 --> 02:01:55.600 Participate and those surgical procedures should be taken out back. 2359 02:01:56.039 --> 02:01:57.439 Oh I agree with Jewels. 2360 02:01:57.479 --> 02:01:58.479 Yeah, that's some dark shit. 2361 02:01:59.199 --> 02:01:59.840 That's the stuffy. 2362 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:02.840 I've never heard of this cold. This is mind bobbling 2363 02:02:02.880 --> 02:02:04.000 shit because I actually like going. 2364 02:02:04.479 --> 02:02:07.039 They're still going to this stage. That's the crazy. 2365 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:09.760 So still they have quite a pr game going. I 2366 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:11.479 just looked at the firm that's running. 2367 02:02:11.239 --> 02:02:13.439 It, just just wondering is it's still eighty twenty. 2368 02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:18.960 I think they got it to fifty fifty. 2369 02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.760 Because they got him effort well. 2370 02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:26.760 They would go, they would go spend like a basic 2371 02:02:26.840 --> 02:02:32.399 amount of time with this therapist lady and they weren't 2372 02:02:32.399 --> 02:02:35.119 allowed to return back to the community until they fully 2373 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:38.279 surrendered to you know, being the divine masculine. 2374 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:39.920 That's insane, dude. 2375 02:02:41.199 --> 02:02:44.119 They had to one agree that they were a man 2376 02:02:44.680 --> 02:02:47.600 in order to return into the cold's activities. 2377 02:02:47.720 --> 02:02:50.439 Well, and then the little side note here, they were 2378 02:02:50.479 --> 02:02:53.279 trying to bring this kid into the world and she 2379 02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.439 was going to be like this big spiritual dij and 2380 02:02:56.840 --> 02:03:00.600 when she was, she got pregnant early in or told 2381 02:03:00.640 --> 02:03:04.479 everybody early, and then something went wrong. They lied and 2382 02:03:04.600 --> 02:03:07.680 said it was something because they didn't they artificially inseminated. 2383 02:03:07.840 --> 02:03:11.039 They said that that in order to make sure that 2384 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:13.520 their baby was going to be a girl, they were 2385 02:03:13.560 --> 02:03:15.960 going to go doing vitro to make sure that they 2386 02:03:16.439 --> 02:03:20.520 she only got implanted with female embryos. But the problem 2387 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:23.560 was is something went wrong and she had a miscarriage, 2388 02:03:23.760 --> 02:03:26.800 and they they told everybody in the cult that it 2389 02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:30.600 was because not enough of them were transitioning and cutting 2390 02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:34.159 their tits and clips off and that's why she had 2391 02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:37.600 a miscarriage. So the ones that wouldn't transition, it was 2392 02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:39.920 their fault that she's died. 2393 02:03:40.479 --> 02:03:42.840 Definitely, they don't definitely original by the way they make 2394 02:03:42.880 --> 02:03:44.439 them seems like you right, it. 2395 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:47.520 Seems like it is original or they're portraying it in 2396 02:03:47.640 --> 02:03:50.199 that way. It's like, hey, you're not putting forth this 2397 02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:56.279 energy to like yeah, and they're the ones dictating who 2398 02:03:56.359 --> 02:03:59.840 is not who's not coming to meeting their qualifications. You're regels. 2399 02:04:00.039 --> 02:04:02.600 It's the co leaders that can dictate these rituals and 2400 02:04:02.840 --> 02:04:04.920 who they're incorporating in it. So yeah, I think that's 2401 02:04:04.920 --> 02:04:05.680 all realistic. 2402 02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:09.600 And so basically at the end, Jeff and Schulia have 2403 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:12.720 went crazy and they want everybody to. 2404 02:04:12.800 --> 02:04:15.439 Move on to a compound with them. And he's Jesus. 2405 02:04:15.560 --> 02:04:17.600 Now by the way, he becomes Jesus'. 2406 02:04:17.399 --> 02:04:21.039 They got tax exemption as a church. He is the 2407 02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:24.520 reincarnation of Jesus Christ. I like to call him Jeffy 2408 02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:26.439 Christ Jeffy Christ. 2409 02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:27.640 I like it. 2410 02:04:28.760 --> 02:04:33.840 And they basically wanted all the members of the Twin 2411 02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:36.439 Flames CULD to move on to this compound with them. 2412 02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:41.159 And because they put everybody in female and female relationships, 2413 02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:47.479 the problem is now they can't repopulate with the Twin 2414 02:04:47.600 --> 02:04:51.159 Flames unless Jeff gets them all pregnant. 2415 02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:55.319 So is trans required here. This was a trans requirement at. 2416 02:04:55.239 --> 02:04:58.479 Some point only to get that eighty twenty ratio offset, 2417 02:04:58.880 --> 02:05:02.960 and they noticed that they their whole model was falling apart. 2418 02:05:03.079 --> 02:05:05.039 So instead of like your twin flame could be in 2419 02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:09.039 your Facebook inbox, it was no. They've been a member 2420 02:05:09.079 --> 02:05:12.399 of this cult all along, but the catches, you get a. 2421 02:05:12.439 --> 02:05:16.359 Mess ectomy, and now you guys are a twin flames. 2422 02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:19.359 What y'all explain to me is hauntingly similar to my 2423 02:05:19.479 --> 02:05:23.319 experiences with my former stocker buffalo Jered Rivisa. I wonder 2424 02:05:23.319 --> 02:05:26.199 if I was selected as his twin flame. That motherfucker 2425 02:05:26.279 --> 02:05:28.800 would not take not for an answer, And he went. 2426 02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:34.640 He went, went, He trans down. 2427 02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:44.560 He trains out you transpocallipse multi state murder spree, and 2428 02:05:44.640 --> 02:05:47.239 I said, no, Yeah, he trains down that transpocalypse multi 2429 02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:49.760 state murder spree. And the guy, the first victim he murdered. 2430 02:05:49.800 --> 02:05:51.800 The rest of ther all attempted murders. He didn't succeed. 2431 02:05:52.960 --> 02:05:55.520 The first VICTIMY murdered, hired him as his pr rep. 2432 02:05:55.560 --> 02:05:57.000 That's all I'm saying is I might have dodged a 2433 02:05:57.039 --> 02:05:57.520 bullet there. 2434 02:05:58.000 --> 02:05:58.920 Oh fuck yeah? 2435 02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:01.640 Is that wanted to hire? I did want to be 2436 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:03.479 my reps so bad, That's what I'm saying. I think 2437 02:06:03.520 --> 02:06:09.039 you I think you twin flamed me. I'm telling you this. 2438 02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:11.239 It was adamant about being I would say, it got 2439 02:06:11.359 --> 02:06:12.720 so weird, dude, it got so weird. 2440 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:14.600 I wonder if the Zizians are into this shit. 2441 02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:17.039 But like, imagine that though. 2442 02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:18.800 It is like because they would tell you, like I 2443 02:06:18.880 --> 02:06:21.640 could show up tomorrow to the Colt meeting and say, 2444 02:06:22.880 --> 02:06:26.359 I think that Colby is my Let's say Colby was 2445 02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:29.119 completely disinterested in me and had a whole another life, 2446 02:06:29.119 --> 02:06:30.359 and I was like, I think Colby. 2447 02:06:30.199 --> 02:06:32.359 Is my twin flame. She's actually telling the story of 2448 02:06:32.399 --> 02:06:33.359 how we met. Fuck you. 2449 02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:36.560 The thing, though, is they would say, Okay, go to 2450 02:06:36.640 --> 02:06:39.479 their house, stalk them, go to their job. 2451 02:06:39.760 --> 02:06:39.800 Go. 2452 02:06:40.439 --> 02:06:43.119 So the one lady was like, I know this person 2453 02:06:43.239 --> 02:06:45.920 is my twin flame. He was married, he had kids, 2454 02:06:46.119 --> 02:06:48.279 he had an entire life. And she was like, but 2455 02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:50.239 I know that's my twin flame. And they would tell 2456 02:06:50.279 --> 02:06:52.600 her like, go to his house, go to his job, 2457 02:06:52.840 --> 02:06:54.720 stock him, do whatever you have to do. 2458 02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:58.359 They had some butch bitch that was convinced that this 2459 02:06:58.600 --> 02:07:03.000 gay dude was her twin flame was happily coupled with 2460 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:03.720 another fella. 2461 02:07:04.359 --> 02:07:06.520 Yea, she was wouldn't leave him alone. 2462 02:07:08.039 --> 02:07:10.039 Yeah, imagine being on the other end of that stalking 2463 02:07:10.119 --> 02:07:11.479 how's that? You know what I mean? Like, that's some 2464 02:07:11.560 --> 02:07:12.119 wild ship. 2465 02:07:12.239 --> 02:07:13.640 So what I was telling her is like, when this 2466 02:07:13.680 --> 02:07:16.640 ship goes long enough, goes on long enough, if the 2467 02:07:16.720 --> 02:07:19.840 lob isn't successful at keeping you guys separate, somebody's going 2468 02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:21.359 to take it to the next level eventually. 2469 02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:24.640 Yes, uh yeah, like they're going to try to murder you, 2470 02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.960 stab you where you might have to murder them to 2471 02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:27.760 stop that. 2472 02:07:28.479 --> 02:07:31.920 Right, So this is the twin flames cold. 2473 02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:40.000 It's got transgenderism, false sexual uh molestation memories. 2474 02:07:39.880 --> 02:07:44.800 The lesbian version of Jelly West basically yeah, right. 2475 02:07:44.720 --> 02:07:46.800 And that's a good that's a good comparison coal because 2476 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:47.439 she kind of looks like. 2477 02:07:49.239 --> 02:07:50.000 The picture of her. 2478 02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:54.279 Do uh do alien stuff. 2479 02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:58.840 So the only thing that comes into that as far 2480 02:07:58.920 --> 02:08:02.399 as like as a Terrik wise would be that Jeff 2481 02:08:02.520 --> 02:08:06.600 thinks he's Jesus and told everybody he was, and then 2482 02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:09.520 he said that in every relationship, which is something that 2483 02:08:09.880 --> 02:08:13.000 maybe you guys can agree with, but in every relationship, 2484 02:08:13.119 --> 02:08:15.520 whether it's a man and a woman, a woman and 2485 02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:18.920 a woman, or a man and a man, there's always 2486 02:08:20.640 --> 02:08:25.159 one divine feminine and one divine masculine energy, and so 2487 02:08:25.439 --> 02:08:29.119 he took that and twisted it into top and yeah, 2488 02:08:29.279 --> 02:08:32.560 basically he took that and twisted it into so now 2489 02:08:32.720 --> 02:08:36.960 you have to trans transgender your physical body to match 2490 02:08:37.199 --> 02:08:41.720 your spiritual body. And so that's like the you know, 2491 02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:47.039 weird esoteric stuff, and the Twin Flame aspect in itself 2492 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:50.720 is part of the esoteric world. But that that's basically 2493 02:08:50.880 --> 02:08:53.800 twin Flames in a nut the Twin Flame Cult in 2494 02:08:53.920 --> 02:08:56.319 a nutshell, and. 2495 02:08:56.399 --> 02:08:59.479 Definitely, j have you heard of the Twin Ray cult? 2496 02:09:00.800 --> 02:09:02.079 I have not. 2497 02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:06.079 They operated out of Ashland, Oregon, where I work, and 2498 02:09:06.239 --> 02:09:10.199 it's like fourteen miles south of US, and they got 2499 02:09:10.279 --> 02:09:13.159 all their money from these scientologists that basically are buying 2500 02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:16.640 every historical monument and property in Ashland right now, and 2501 02:09:16.720 --> 02:09:19.520 they funded this cult that's very similar to the Twin Flame. 2502 02:09:19.520 --> 02:09:22.119 It's called the Twin Ray. I was wanting to talk 2503 02:09:22.159 --> 02:09:24.079 to you about that at some point because they're definitely 2504 02:09:24.359 --> 02:09:24.600 in that. 2505 02:09:24.840 --> 02:09:27.920 Yeah, now, I'll definitely look into that. Lets you know 2506 02:09:28.039 --> 02:09:30.359 my thoughts on stut your message. For sure, we definitely 2507 02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:31.760 do a show in the future you'd like. 2508 02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:34.000 Yeah, for sure. I always love talking to colds. 2509 02:09:34.920 --> 02:09:39.399 Yeah, but that's into the CULTI verse. 2510 02:09:39.399 --> 02:09:42.760 Yeah, short for that's a wild it's a wild shit. 2511 02:09:43.439 --> 02:09:43.680 Yeah. 2512 02:09:44.039 --> 02:09:46.000 It was quite quite a ride there for about a 2513 02:09:46.079 --> 02:09:48.720 month and a half, jam and all this. And then 2514 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:51.039 I watched a show on Hulu called The Path and 2515 02:09:51.119 --> 02:09:53.760 I told Nick about it. And because I think it's 2516 02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:55.520 got a lot of Oto stuff, it's got a lot 2517 02:09:55.560 --> 02:09:58.279 of synon on stuff they just borrowed from all these 2518 02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:01.159 fucking things I just looked into and kind of use 2519 02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:02.279 that to douche my brain. 2520 02:10:02.520 --> 02:10:04.760 One last two rah Right. 2521 02:10:06.479 --> 02:10:08.520 Speaking of douce in your brain, folks in the interwebs 2522 02:10:08.520 --> 02:10:10.199 want to douche their brain on the Sun of Sam 2523 02:10:10.319 --> 02:10:14.119 Netflix series. That is propaganda. The Processed Church demonstrably answer 2524 02:10:14.119 --> 02:10:16.560 your question from earlier. It just popped back in my brain. 2525 02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:19.920 Hold the douche brain comment. The Processed Church did not 2526 02:10:19.960 --> 02:10:22.319 just spand in nineteen seventy four. It's demonstrably proven. Just 2527 02:10:22.359 --> 02:10:26.359 go to the Utah Secretary State Business search type in 2528 02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:29.560 Best Friends Animal Society. You will see it operates under 2529 02:10:29.600 --> 02:10:33.640 the same corporate structure and identification number as the Processed 2530 02:10:33.720 --> 02:10:35.399 Church did, and you will see that they registered in 2531 02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:38.560 the state of Utah as well as Louisiana. On June 2532 02:10:38.640 --> 02:10:41.760 twenty first, nineteen sixty seven, when they invaded America. So 2533 02:10:42.199 --> 02:10:43.960 we don't know the full scope of the history of 2534 02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:46.600 their relations with Utah, but that's where they sit today 2535 02:10:46.600 --> 02:10:49.279 and kind of as the Best Friends Animal Society under 2536 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:52.439 the same corporate structure and same identification number. So you 2537 02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:53.439 can see the evidence there. 2538 02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:56.640 If you go to the Walmart animal section, you'll notice 2539 02:10:56.680 --> 02:10:59.039 they've got a big display for the Best Friends. 2540 02:10:58.840 --> 02:10:59.600 And yeah they do. 2541 02:11:01.960 --> 02:11:03.920 Sam Walton was deep, was deep with them. They got 2542 02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:12.439 one other note on that, relative to that propaganda campaign 2543 02:11:12.520 --> 02:11:14.520 to cover Upper Movement. I was referring to a relative 2544 02:11:14.520 --> 02:11:17.800 to that documentary, I said Zeman. The documentary filmmaker moved 2545 02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:20.039 in with Franco at the same time, seemingly on the 2546 02:11:20.079 --> 02:11:23.600 same efforts but different paths. So Zeeman gets the rights 2547 02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:28.319 to The Ultimate Evil, republishes it with the documentary right. 2548 02:11:28.359 --> 02:11:31.000 He gets the rights to that as well, republishes an 2549 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:34.880 updated version, removes an entire chapter of what I would 2550 02:11:34.920 --> 02:11:39.159 call you proto Smiley face killing incident with Andrew Crispo 2551 02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:42.840 and the the the death mask murder of that same 2552 02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:45.760 gay underground s and m scene as in The Deuce 2553 02:11:46.319 --> 02:11:49.680 that that James Franco did with by bastardizing Molitary's work. 2554 02:11:49.760 --> 02:11:52.359 So when you're removing an entire chapter about a very 2555 02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:54.720 integral murder that I think is to this cult ritual 2556 02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:58.239 human sacrifice activities, a proto s f K murder, if 2557 02:11:58.279 --> 02:12:00.199 you will, well, I think there's something more to be 2558 02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:02.319 said about that. You're just gonna go ahead and remove 2559 02:12:02.359 --> 02:12:05.159 that entire chapter from a book that's thirty years old. 2560 02:12:08.920 --> 02:12:11.520 So that's the that's that's that's the douche you want 2561 02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:13.680 have to go doucee your brain hold up, set. I mean, 2562 02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:15.439 you can get some good stuff from the documentary, but 2563 02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:16.720 it is propaganda, and I. 2564 02:12:17.279 --> 02:12:21.199 Don't like Netflix study in the propaganda is almost half 2565 02:12:21.279 --> 02:12:21.479 of it. 2566 02:12:21.880 --> 02:12:23.079 You know, I agree with you, sir. 2567 02:12:23.319 --> 02:12:25.279 I like Joe Rogan episodes. 2568 02:12:25.800 --> 02:12:27.279 Well, you know, I like to see not only is 2569 02:12:27.319 --> 02:12:29.000 not what they say, it's what they don't say, right, 2570 02:12:29.039 --> 02:12:30.960 but it is also what they say, Like when the 2571 02:12:31.840 --> 02:12:34.520 when the Satanic Temple's number two guys bragging that he's 2572 02:12:34.520 --> 02:12:36.520 the go between from the old process to the new 2573 02:12:36.560 --> 02:12:39.119 process and the process never ended. Well, then that's it 2574 02:12:39.279 --> 02:12:41.800 is also what they say, right. He's a member of 2575 02:12:41.840 --> 02:12:44.800 the band Skinny puppy or what wow, skinny. 2576 02:12:44.600 --> 02:12:47.199 Peppy, and you can find a lot of this uh 2577 02:12:47.479 --> 02:12:50.000 sort of mind control techniques all laid out in the 2578 02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:51.000 Nexium case. 2579 02:12:51.079 --> 02:12:52.199 Because it's all right there. 2580 02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:56.239 That's the Albany Chapter, sir, bare bones. 2581 02:12:56.039 --> 02:12:58.439 Like, that's the basic process way. 2582 02:12:58.319 --> 02:13:02.560 Of doing shit, and it is now you're spot on headless. 2583 02:13:02.720 --> 02:13:04.520 That's the we call him the next hum but it's 2584 02:13:04.560 --> 02:13:06.720 really the evolution of the next the Albany Chapter of 2585 02:13:06.840 --> 02:13:10.479 the Processed Church of the Final Judgment. In fact, I 2586 02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:12.560 have a photograph from one of their own members and 2587 02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:15.960 thought leaders, Swim Sims Bainbridge, pictured with them the Albany 2588 02:13:16.039 --> 02:13:18.560 chapter as he lists that nineteen seventy eight. So again 2589 02:13:18.600 --> 02:13:21.760 they never disbanded in seventy four. William Morrison, the skinny 2590 02:13:21.800 --> 02:13:25.159 puppy guy, specifically says the Albany Chapter he's been a 2591 02:13:25.239 --> 02:13:28.039 part of since the early eighties. So you know the 2592 02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:32.000 idea that that you have two offstrets of scientology Nextium 2593 02:13:32.039 --> 02:13:36.840 and the Process in Albany, both invading politics. Well, no, 2594 02:13:36.920 --> 02:13:40.000 it's the same organization, right. 2595 02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:42.960 They just don't close. 2596 02:13:43.279 --> 02:13:46.479 That's they put a new flag up from. But I 2597 02:13:46.560 --> 02:13:49.199 mean you know that the idea that next to him 2598 02:13:49.199 --> 02:13:51.600 has not invaded both state and federal politics of the 2599 02:13:51.640 --> 02:13:53.800 state of New York is preposterous. And it's not just 2600 02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:57.560 Kirsten Gillibrand, the US sendor from New York who's replaced 2601 02:13:57.600 --> 02:14:01.239 Clinton when she became Secretary of State for Obama. Her 2602 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:04.960 father was a paid executive and her stepmother slash first 2603 02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:12.479 cousin is also a member, same new name, same cold, 2604 02:14:12.960 --> 02:14:15.159 the same businesses has had less of saying that that 2605 02:14:15.279 --> 02:14:18.479 this infiltration of government and whatnot is certainly within their 2606 02:14:19.000 --> 02:14:21.279 their full scale of operations from day one. According to 2607 02:14:21.319 --> 02:14:24.840 the files of Ed Xanders, Jerry Moonbeam Brown, the boyfriend 2608 02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:28.199 of Linda Ronstadt, was a member of the Process Church 2609 02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:30.520 of Final Judgment two times, three time. 2610 02:14:30.399 --> 02:14:31.520 Governor, three time. 2611 02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:36.359 Yeah, and he left four doors down from the Wonderland 2612 02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:37.239 Murder hom there in Laura. 2613 02:14:38.359 --> 02:14:42.399 Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's, as I say, same trailer, 2614 02:14:42.720 --> 02:14:43.560 different part. 2615 02:14:45.600 --> 02:14:48.600 That's funny. You just move from one place the next. 2616 02:14:49.359 --> 02:14:52.239 Thanks for having oh yeah, no, thank you so much. Yeah, 2617 02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:54.239 this was awesome. There was a lot a lot of stuff. 2618 02:14:54.319 --> 02:14:55.960 Thank you, little barn burner. 2619 02:14:56.039 --> 02:14:59.319 Hell yeah, yeah, definitely was definitely was. Uh, we'll let 2620 02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:01.760 everybody up like their shows. Real quick jewels. Since I 2621 02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:03.560 know you're kind of in a rush too, I'll let 2622 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:04.600 you go ahead. 2623 02:15:05.600 --> 02:15:06.680 Oh man, this was fun. 2624 02:15:07.039 --> 02:15:10.840 I actually learned a lot, took some notes, so hopefully 2625 02:15:10.880 --> 02:15:13.279 I can share that on Already Dead on Tuesday. 2626 02:15:13.399 --> 02:15:13.680 Guys. 2627 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:18.560 Uh, this drops well every Tuesday eight thirty Central. Already 2628 02:15:18.640 --> 02:15:22.279 Dead Live calling showed me. Well, I'm the I run 2629 02:15:22.399 --> 02:15:24.359 the kind of the behind the scenes for it. But 2630 02:15:24.439 --> 02:15:29.560 it's Jose Gallis on at Austin Picard, Great Pill Podcast, 2631 02:15:29.960 --> 02:15:35.399 Great Pill pot on Twitter or ex whatever, YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, 2632 02:15:35.880 --> 02:15:37.239 Apple Podcast, Patreon. 2633 02:15:37.800 --> 02:15:38.119 Again. 2634 02:15:38.640 --> 02:15:40.279 You can also go to locals if you want to 2635 02:15:40.279 --> 02:15:44.439 support the show. I streamed a lot to Rumble yeah 2636 02:15:44.560 --> 02:15:46.960 sending sticker packs out to all my patrons. You get 2637 02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:52.800 free stickers and uh yeah again this was fun. Nick, 2638 02:15:52.920 --> 02:15:54.079 Thank thank you for inviting me. 2639 02:15:54.119 --> 02:15:55.520 Bro of course, of course, always love you. 2640 02:15:56.960 --> 02:15:59.880 You got like a Matthew McConaughey thing going on. 2641 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:04.920 Yeah, man, yeah, I've been told that. 2642 02:16:05.479 --> 02:16:07.800 I've actually had listeners hit me up and told me that. 2643 02:16:10.399 --> 02:16:11.560 First started podcasting. 2644 02:16:11.640 --> 02:16:13.880 I do a lot of stuff with Nate from the 2645 02:16:14.000 --> 02:16:18.840 Realities Ours podcast, and uh, he's had people like send 2646 02:16:18.960 --> 02:16:22.279 him uh emails and stuff be like hey, bring Jules 2647 02:16:22.359 --> 02:16:25.159 back on the show. Yeah, he sounds like math. You know, 2648 02:16:25.239 --> 02:16:27.840 it sounds like Matthew McConn. I've had people sending rumble 2649 02:16:27.920 --> 02:16:30.439 rants for me to say, like all right, all right, 2650 02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:31.800 all right and all that stuff. 2651 02:16:35.600 --> 02:16:38.000 I want to hear you say time as a flat circle, 2652 02:16:39.719 --> 02:16:43.680 a flat circle that sound. 2653 02:16:44.799 --> 02:16:48.079 Yeah, I'm from Mississippi, man, so I can't help it. 2654 02:16:48.360 --> 02:16:50.799 You know. Hey, she's got one too. It's like a 2655 02:16:51.079 --> 02:16:52.120 hybrid of accents. 2656 02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:58.280 Yeah, it's good meeting Colby and YouTube man and Julia. 2657 02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:02.879 Try and get you guys on the show sometime. I 2658 02:17:03.040 --> 02:17:05.360 usually go live on weekends and stuff, but I can 2659 02:17:05.399 --> 02:17:10.120 always always schedule. But uh, headless, JJ got to get 2660 02:17:10.159 --> 02:17:15.840 you guys on soon as well. Yeah, thanks again, Nick, 2661 02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:16.399 I'm pretty sure. 2662 02:17:16.600 --> 02:17:19.920 Hell hell you and JJ vans everybody know they can 2663 02:17:19.920 --> 02:17:20.840 find all your amazing work. 2664 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:25.440 Please, Nick appreciate the invice always, Sir, Julia Colby, you 2665 02:17:25.479 --> 02:17:27.680 all blew up my brain hole with some new cold details, 2666 02:17:27.680 --> 02:17:32.840 and I do appreciate that. Yeah, Headless, always a great 2667 02:17:32.879 --> 02:17:36.040 conversation with you, sir Jules. I'll be happy to pop 2668 02:17:36.079 --> 02:17:38.200 in over there at already dead anytime I can enjoy 2669 02:17:38.239 --> 02:17:43.799 the conversation. Last week, folks the interwebs. JJ Vans has 2670 02:17:43.879 --> 02:17:48.000 of Operation GCD, not the vice president. I got an 2671 02:17:48.120 --> 02:17:52.719 Operation GCD Sundays. Uh, Patreon check that out. Got In fact, 2672 02:17:52.879 --> 02:17:55.079 this will be coming out later but tonight as we're 2673 02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:57.959 recording it. Tonight, I'm telling the tale of Buffalo Jared Viza, 2674 02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:00.840 my my twin flame. That's tell me, tried to hire 2675 02:18:00.879 --> 02:18:03.239 me as my pr Try to get me to hire 2676 02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:06.799 him as my pr rep. Then, uh, when I'm multi 2677 02:18:06.879 --> 02:18:09.879 state murders free later from a guy he who hired 2678 02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:15.760 him as his pr Repypno human hamburger gay no, No, 2679 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:18.239 that's next week. So that's Nathaniel Barr Jones, Sir, that's 2680 02:18:18.239 --> 02:18:20.760 the human Hamburger guys next week. So that's the Yeah, 2681 02:18:21.239 --> 02:18:23.159 I tell you that guy's pure eval. I came eyeball 2682 02:18:23.200 --> 02:18:24.840 to eyeball with him, and I may have eaten some 2683 02:18:24.920 --> 02:18:25.559 human burgers. 2684 02:18:30.040 --> 02:18:32.639 Well, I was gonna say, JJ, we're working on some 2685 02:18:32.799 --> 02:18:35.079 projects around the house today. I think we'll tune in 2686 02:18:35.159 --> 02:18:37.680 tonight so we can hear about Buffalo. 2687 02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.200 Yeah, Bufflo Jared. Yeah, So his family is the mind 2688 02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:43.639 He could be a mind controlled assassin from a very 2689 02:18:43.799 --> 02:18:48.280 famous sports hypnotist family. Because the Revisa sports hypnotist business, 2690 02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:51.239 which he was a part of. They broke the curse 2691 02:18:51.319 --> 02:18:53.680 of the Goat, the Chicago Cubs curse to let them 2692 02:18:53.680 --> 02:18:56.040 win the World Series after nearly one hundred years the Cubs. 2693 02:18:56.479 --> 02:19:01.120 The Cubs think Ken Revisa for doing that. So definitely 2694 02:19:01.200 --> 02:19:03.959 check that out. My control assassin sawing me twin flame style, 2695 02:19:04.000 --> 02:19:06.479 I think so appreciate everyone's time and conversation. 2696 02:19:06.760 --> 02:19:08.120 Hell yeah, thank you very much. 2697 02:19:08.399 --> 02:19:10.920 And then Operation and then we got Fridays Operation g 2698 02:19:11.040 --> 02:19:14.360 C D and uh CLT rejects. Can't forget that. We 2699 02:19:14.440 --> 02:19:17.239 got phil phil Z coming back out this week when 2700 02:19:17.239 --> 02:19:19.559 this is coming out. So he's coming out either this 2701 02:19:19.680 --> 02:19:20.520 week or in the past. 2702 02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:23.040 So we'll pipe you in the past by the time. 2703 02:19:23.280 --> 02:19:24.680 That's Philip Phillips Tazarro. 2704 02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:26.639 Yes, Yeah, that's awesome. 2705 02:19:26.799 --> 02:19:30.280 That guy's fucking uh photographic memory. I swear to God, 2706 02:19:32.280 --> 02:19:33.719 if he's read a book, it's in there. 2707 02:19:34.399 --> 02:19:37.360 Absolutely. I claim he's an agent of the Dewey decimal 2708 02:19:37.440 --> 02:19:39.079 system accusations. Man. 2709 02:19:41.440 --> 02:19:44.600 But uh, thank you very much, JJ and Headless please. 2710 02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:47.120 Thank you for having me on. 2711 02:19:47.319 --> 02:19:53.479 Thank you guys and JJ and uh Julia and Casey Kate. 2712 02:19:53.840 --> 02:19:58.239 Sorry anyways, you could find me on my X channel. 2713 02:19:58.840 --> 02:20:02.760 Look for the Giant on X and on YouTube just 2714 02:20:02.799 --> 02:20:04.840 look for Headless Giant. I just got done doing a 2715 02:20:04.879 --> 02:20:08.200 show yesterday about the Goldmans, so you can check that out. 2716 02:20:08.239 --> 02:20:09.159 We're talking about the. 2717 02:20:10.840 --> 02:20:14.360 Rock structures all around the Great Lakes region and their 2718 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:22.040 striking similarity to the Phoenician sort of incursions into America 2719 02:20:22.120 --> 02:20:24.319 and it answers a lot of questions that if you 2720 02:20:24.479 --> 02:20:28.559 if you're looking at the origins of the you know, knights, 2721 02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:31.159 templar and stuff like that. So you can check out 2722 02:20:31.200 --> 02:20:34.879 my channel there and uh yeah, you'll find me on 2723 02:20:34.959 --> 02:20:37.159 Thursdays reading your emails if you send them to me 2724 02:20:37.319 --> 02:20:40.159 at Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. 2725 02:20:40.399 --> 02:20:44.280 Thank you awesome, Thank you so much. And Julia Coolby 2726 02:20:44.440 --> 02:20:45.879 please let everybody know what's up. 2727 02:20:46.879 --> 02:20:47.280 Go for you. 2728 02:20:48.440 --> 02:20:53.360 So I I'm obviously on occult rejects quite often, so 2729 02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:56.000 you know's I make a joke that if you haven't 2730 02:20:56.000 --> 02:20:58.520 found me yet, you never will, but I will say 2731 02:20:59.200 --> 02:21:01.319 if you if someone is listening to this and they 2732 02:21:01.399 --> 02:21:04.600 do want to work with me in the future or 2733 02:21:05.000 --> 02:21:09.399 you know whatever, you can go to Instagram. It's Cosmic 2734 02:21:09.719 --> 02:21:12.479 Peach dot podcast. I have my link tree there where 2735 02:21:12.559 --> 02:21:15.920 you can send me a direct email, and that's that's 2736 02:21:16.000 --> 02:21:18.280 the only way that I will be able to respond 2737 02:21:18.319 --> 02:21:20.799 to you because my inbox is crazy on Instagram. I 2738 02:21:20.920 --> 02:21:23.000 barely ever check it. So please don't send me a 2739 02:21:23.079 --> 02:21:25.840 message on Instagram and then get mad at me because 2740 02:21:25.840 --> 02:21:29.000 I didn't respond to you. So yeah, link tree is 2741 02:21:29.079 --> 02:21:32.319 on Instagram. Send me an email. Thanks for having me, Nick. 2742 02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:36.159 It's always a pleasure. Love coming on the Occult Rejects, 2743 02:21:36.239 --> 02:21:39.319 whether I'm just sitting in or the guest or whatever. 2744 02:21:39.959 --> 02:21:44.719 Koby all right, Conspiracy, playtime dot com. It's just kind 2745 02:21:44.760 --> 02:21:46.920 of the hub and anywhere you listen to podcasts. Just 2746 02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:51.600 did an episode of William Ramsey about Austin, Texas comedy 2747 02:21:51.799 --> 02:21:55.000 and the Smiley Face. That one's worth checking out. And 2748 02:21:57.200 --> 02:21:59.559 I want to mention that we did this show for 2749 02:21:59.799 --> 02:22:02.040 this series she does on the cult of conspiracy. But 2750 02:22:02.280 --> 02:22:06.280 at the end we did a bonus episode with we 2751 02:22:06.520 --> 02:22:10.120 take is It five five five of the top colts, 2752 02:22:10.159 --> 02:22:11.840 you know, the most well known, and we give them 2753 02:22:11.879 --> 02:22:15.559 a rating system, and then we throw the cults that 2754 02:22:15.639 --> 02:22:17.600 we covered into that rating system mix, and some of 2755 02:22:17.680 --> 02:22:19.559 them made it up kind of high compared. 2756 02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:22.360 To the you know it was like a Jeopardy for cults, 2757 02:22:22.440 --> 02:22:26.440 and you can only see that on a cosmic Patriots 2758 02:22:27.399 --> 02:22:28.000 pay to play. 2759 02:22:28.559 --> 02:22:31.799 Yeah, but it's it's worth checking out. Actually, we kind 2760 02:22:31.840 --> 02:22:33.559 of just thought, what can we do. I didn't think 2761 02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:34.799 it would go as well as it did, but it 2762 02:22:34.920 --> 02:22:37.159 was fun. We're listening to that's. 2763 02:22:37.079 --> 02:22:40.559 Great, nice, nice, Well, thank you both very much. Again, 2764 02:22:40.639 --> 02:22:42.639 that was awesome. You guys killed it like you always do. 2765 02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:45.920 And yeah, kind of kids met man. 2766 02:22:45.959 --> 02:22:48.239 You had a Colt guy, count Cancel, and we just 2767 02:22:48.360 --> 02:22:52.399 ended up doing this and we're all fresh and yeah. 2768 02:22:53.040 --> 02:22:55.799 It worked out perfect. Thank you. It's awesome. 2769 02:22:55.920 --> 02:22:58.600 Yeah, both JJ and Headless. I'd like to work with 2770 02:22:58.719 --> 02:23:00.600 you both on my show too at some point. I 2771 02:23:00.719 --> 02:23:03.239 mean there's lots to cover. You guys are both the 2772 02:23:03.319 --> 02:23:05.159 wealth of knowledge and your own rights for sure. 2773 02:23:05.319 --> 02:23:08.600 So yeaes sir. I appreciate your all the time as well. 2774 02:23:08.600 --> 02:23:10.600 And I'll get back to you on that that Oregon 2775 02:23:10.680 --> 02:23:15.920 cult you're describing all right. Oh dude, I've been so 2776 02:23:16.079 --> 02:23:19.000 deepn Oregan activities, dude, Portland, Salem, so that you just 2777 02:23:19.040 --> 02:23:21.959 added to my topography of situations out there that I'm gonna. 2778 02:23:22.079 --> 02:23:24.159 Yeah, we're only about an hour and a half north 2779 02:23:24.239 --> 02:23:26.159 of Mount Shasta as well, so we're in the thick 2780 02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:27.319 of the weird shit. 2781 02:23:29.079 --> 02:23:31.280 I've been on the north, but now I'll check out 2782 02:23:31.319 --> 02:23:35.079 this stuff. But I do appreciate that America was founded 2783 02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:35.760 by cults. 2784 02:23:38.040 --> 02:23:40.479 So do you want to know history of America? No 2785 02:23:40.639 --> 02:23:41.239 cult history? 2786 02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:45.000 Best parting words ever. 2787 02:23:45.200 --> 02:23:50.360 Yeah, people, the craziest belief came over here. Awesome, thank you. 2788 02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:51.479 Well again they went west. 2789 02:23:51.920 --> 02:23:54.200 Yeah and uh yeah. 2790 02:23:54.280 --> 02:23:56.360 That is the end of another recult rejects and until 2791 02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:58.120 the next one, everybody be well later.