Speaker 1: Another thing we could be getting is so this comes
from a sea tears, Scooper, So we're going to talk
about this, so Spider Man, we still don't have any
more casting other than Sadie sinc And I thought there
was one.
Speaker 2: Oh no they did. Do you watch The Bear?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's an actress on there the cast. She's
a cook.
Speaker 1: But the big thing is I can't remember her name,
but she's of Porto Rican descent and she's an older woman.
So I imagine you know what everyone jumps to for
that casting.
Speaker 3: Uh no, you just pull of tailor on me.
Speaker 2: That's again, he's full of tailor on me. He's on
his videos cruising for.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll say.
Speaker 1: I said, I said that they last week from The Bear,
there's an older actress that's port Rican that they cast.
Speaker 3: Do you think Puerto Rican female actress, older, late late
fifty Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican. I'm blanking on the Puerto
Rican part of that description.
Speaker 1: So Miles Morales is part Puerto Ric, part Black. You know,
I'm not gonna say half because I don't know all
his percentages going on. So it might be a Taylor
Field Yeah, point zero zero zero nine eighth asianly sure, Taylor, but.
Speaker 2: We got that. And so this is from a seat tire.
Speaker 1: This comes from you know, take it with a grain
of salt, because the Scooper even said that.
Speaker 2: But we'll see.
Speaker 1: Becau's been quiet on the front so far. We got
to say sink we got this one. It's been said
that net is coming back, and it's also been said
that Zenda's coming back. But her role has been compared
to the size of Homecoming, so which I'm fine with.
If she's gonna, I don't think she needs to be
in there, but of course she's a big star. There's
some ties her and Tom Holmer either getting married or
about to be married or are married, depending who what
fucking gossip rag you see on the internet. But I'm
down for that because I feel like, okay, if you
have to have it in there, use her in a
small role. But here's some other tidbits going on. Marvels
Studios has concept art is of Daniel Wu as Mister Negative.
Daniel Wu is currently the front runner for the role,
but no decision has been made yet. Pang Zong, I
hope I'm saying that right. Is the fight choreographer for
Spider Man brand new Day, best known for his choreography
in Sung Che. Daniel deson Crat's one condition for taking
the film was getting rid of the multiverse plot and
soft rebooting Spider.
Speaker 2: Man in the MCU.
Speaker 1: The film will be far more granted wishing with an
emotional death to it. The other Spider Man who were
originally going to appear in the multiverse version of this
film will be making their returns in Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: And then they were asked a question.
Speaker 1: They also asked because we'd heard rumors about this being
a multiverse thing, and they said, hey, well, if there
was a story planned out, are we going to get that?
And they said you would see that kind of sprinkle
throughout Doomsday, Secret Wars, etc. So obviously we're never gonna
know because maybe well no one like ten twenty years,
that's when they usually get stuff that comes up. But
it's funny the trajectory of this movie when we never
had a director, but it sounds like okay. It started
off with we're doing like a Spider Man. There was
rumors like Fist was gonna be in there and Daredevil
a bunch of their stuff, and that was like, I
don't know Year one, but let's just say like Act
one was that, and then Act two was like, oh no,
it sounds like it's multiverse. We heard like Andrew's coming back,
all this stuff, certain villains. We've heard rumors about Dafoe,
and again this is a sea Tier Scooper, so who knows.
But then it's like, okay, now it feels like Act
three were back to a ground in movie. But it's
like a different type of grounded because well it's more
emotional and it's mister Negative and you know, there's no
multiverse aspects to it.
Speaker 2: So also we've talked about this.
Speaker 1: This is probably a dumb question, but just in case
people are listening for the very first time, how would
you feel about a Mister Negative as the main villain?
Speaker 2: And Danielhood I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I thought I looked it up and I'd seen him
in something, but I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I pulled them up and I did not really recognize
any projects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the rumor going around, Oh I think
did that rumor even say that? But the concept art
if did I say that? In that We're Gonna run
down that there's concept art of him? I think that's
where the room is coming from that. Apparently there's like
someone who felt the concept art and it's of that actor,
which doesn't always mean that's the actor that's gonna get cast,
but sometimes that does mean that, Hey.
Speaker 2: They've had conversations and it's an idea of what it is.
Speaker 1: But to me at least, even if it's just like
if there's fucking to me concept art of any mister Negative,
that to me hopefully means all we're doing mister Negative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm a lot more intrigue.
Speaker 2: Oh there I go, camera goes in out a lot.
Now what's going on?
Speaker 3: He just had drying up? Yeah, the well on that
webcam is it's getting expired. But with mister Negative, I
feel like I'm a lot more intrigued. But just the
idea of him being in the project a little like
more so than the actor pairing. Whoever they get I'm
sure is going to do a fine job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done a lot too, like I've seen, Like
I saw Warcraft, but I couldn't tell you who he was.
I saw Reminiscence, which I liked a lot more with you, Jack,
but I couldn't tell you who he was. So yeah,
it seems like he was a bigger start internationally, but
like he's been in fucking eighty four projects, so I'm
not going to question his ability.
Speaker 2: I think he's no green corn.
Speaker 3: Yeah horn, Yeah, you know, like he's green, he's a greeny,
he's new.
Speaker 2: Why did you call him a greenhorn?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: That's that's what they say, right, greenhorn? Google that for me,
confirm and.
Speaker 2: Horn spelt like with like a double horn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, green horn one word.
Speaker 1: Okay, a good person who's new or inexperienced in a
particular amgo, okay, no green horn either, that's what he said.
Speaker 3: Eighty four projects. You think I'm a green horn? But no,
I think this is awesome. I feel like I really
didn't know anything about mister Negative until like the Spider
Man PS four games. So yeah, I and and that
was a really really intriguing story told around that character,
and then just multiplied by him coming back in the
second game. I thought, I thought, I enjoyed the character
even more. Ye, So I can only imagine, you know,
if if we're sending if we're sending if for setting
up the story for Spider Man's movie to be around
that character, I'm sure they're gonna do some juicy stuff
on there because I just kind of got a glimpse
of what is possible around that character and really really
interesting look, really really interesting move sets and just power level.
And I like villains that can be like a like
a classic like mob boss, like like the leader, like
like a kingpin of sorts, but then also have cool powers.
And the Kingpin is just that he's you know, like
ninety nine percent muscle or whatever the hell it is,
which which works. He's got a bull bulletproof frame. You
get shot in the head and he's fine. But mister
Native is a little bit cooler than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Like I think there's I think I've seen.
I've read some stuff of him, but not massive arc.
So if this does happen, I have a bad backlog
of stuff, like even absolute Batman, which is everyone says
it's a fantastic kind of reboot of Batman.
Speaker 2: Not read a single page. I'm just bad.
Speaker 1: I just like I keep trying to set time aside,
but just busy. I'm hoping after the ten year I
can do some stuff or not before that, just get
outside in the summer and do some reading. But so
I'd like to dive deeper into the character but from
the things I've have seen and then obviously the video game,
I'm not seeing going to adapt that one for one
because that storyline also has like a big to do
with aunt May, right, and clearly you couldn't do that
here because aunt May has now gone the MCU, so they.
Speaker 2: Obviously will do their own version.
Speaker 1: But if you can take the skeleton of that and
make it work, like you're talking about, like, oh, the
mob Boston in that game, that's how it starts. It's like, oh, guy,
that were philanthropist. That does chair it all work to
Oh he's shady criminals?
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's like a super villain.
Speaker 1: Like I think there's a good it kind of feels
not exact the same, but like you could evoke kind
of the Vulture iss stuff, like right away you knew
Vulture was like Michael keanees bad, right, But that's.
Speaker 2: The same sort of method. I imagine too.
Speaker 1: By time this comes out a Daredevil season two, they'll
probably have fisks somewhat stop so they don't have to
do the whole like what's Sperman doing the no vigilante
zone and what's mister negative? Like they might have it
set up in a way where a Fist does go
to prison or get taken down or he's just missing
and that's or maybe maybe mister Negative would take over,
or maybe they don't care because they've said that before.
They want to separate the shows and movies again, may
they're just.
Speaker 2: Like, eh, whatever, that's so small franchise stuff. Spider Man
doesn't care.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give a shit about Fisk, right, and like
realistically and the way they set up the MCU, like
insperien Man has fought then, I was like, he should
really have no problem with Wilson Fisk, you know, like
he should so pretty easy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I really hope this is true. I like
all the rumors.
Speaker 1: We've been pitching mister Nagive for a while, especially before
they did the No Way Home Method. It was okay,
we did Vulture because you haven't done that before. You know,
you got a Scorpion that never became Scorpion, which I'd
like to see. You had Chalker, you had the stereo.
So this follows on that trend before the crossover movie.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna do new characters that haven't been done before.
Speaker 1: And again we talked about this on the Thunderbolts review
if what they did was Century, I think you do
something really cool with mister Negative and the effects like
Century and the Void made me believe like, oh, we
could do some fun lighting, you know, colorading technique stuff
like hopefully if not it looks like shit. But I
trust that for Century Bay, Oh, we could do something
really unique here and stand out, because he does have
like a very standout look. You know, that's one good
thing about that villain, so and I think that'd be
good just to go smaller tier. I think there's multiple
threads in that thing, even the game, right, it's like
they connect on a personal level in the first game
and the second game, and even Miles does right with
that character. It's not just a cutthroat. He's a bad guy,
and I think that's where it helps that he is
similar in the similar Elk, Vulture, Doc Hawk, Green Goblin,
you know, not so much Mysterio because Mysterio, like they
didn't connect, right, he was a fraudster Sandman and Vandam
and they were messes. So like I think you can
get back to that classic Spiderman film that many people
love of Oh, you know, there's a heart there. He's
doing bad things, but he can try to save him
one way, or maybe he doesn't. Maybe this inspier Man's
is so fucked up right now, he's notne Maybe mister
Negative reflects that, right, and maybe he sees mister Native
doing all these terrible things he doesn't want to be
like that. And uh yeah, if it's not multiverse anymore,
makes me really question who Sadie Sink's playing, because if
if you just say it's multiverse, well that's like there's
so much to be playing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: We talked about like MJ and Toby's daughter. She could
be playing just a different MJ.
Speaker 2: She could play.
Speaker 1: Spider, Gwen x Y and Z right, Like, I guess
you could say it could be like a Gwen Stacy
at this universe, but like I don't see the casting,
but I feel like I'm now and I don't want
to get too excited because she easy could just be
like I don't know, mister Nagieve's like adopt a daughter
or actual daughter or are they an assistant? Like it
could literally just be fucking no character. They're like, Okay,
it's you know, classic MCU. We got too excited, but
like I'm trying not to get hype. But I'm wondering
if Black Cat is in play, just especially because like
we'd heard those rumors before of like oh, they're talking
to Sidney Sween and they're talking to Annie to their Joy,
who to me felt very like archetypes of a black
Cat where.
Speaker 2: Sadie think I don't think is that she could prove
me wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what this will happen here, and it
just feels like, okay if it is more crime based,
and to me, if we're talking about like mobsters and
people owing stuff, like black Cat is an easy character
to gain in that situation, right, like of either working
for mister Negative or stealing something from him that he
wants back, and that's how Spierman gets in the adventure. Like,
I'm leaning more towards it could be black Cat, and
that way you can kind of do like a like
it's the perfect sort of love interest for Tom Holm
right now, because if you throw in Gwen Stacy or
another Mary Jane, they kind of have to like fall
in love or something.
Speaker 2: Where Black Cat the push.
Speaker 1: Is always like, oh yeah, like I do have the
hots for this girl, but she's a criminal after all,
so I can't really go for it, right like his
moral compass. So you can have them like share a kiss,
but it's not like, oh my god, like black Cat
kiss Spider Man. He'll never end up back with MJ
like because clearly they want him to get back within
day at some point, right, So I just don't think
they want to give a great love, and a black
Cat is never the great love. She's the side chick
or the rebound chick. Like, she's never the one that
he ends up with. So I feeling that again, she
could just be fucking limo driver and you know, oh
my god.
Speaker 2: I stole this ambulant. I didn't know what it was,
you know, so.
Speaker 3: It could very well happen. I don't think she's gonna
be the limo driver. It's set up in like just
a world where I feel like black Cat is like
a likely set up there. But it's just hard for
me to like see her as the black Cat. I
feel like she can play so many different roles in there,
but black Cat. I'm not saying she can't, but it's
just like really really low on the list of pairings
that I would give her.
Speaker 2: It's just something we haven't seen before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's because like I think both Sidney Sweeney
and a your Taylor Joy have played like that's called
Spaine of Spade.
Speaker 2: It's like not a sex pot role, but it's similar.
Speaker 1: That, right, you have to be very voluptuous, you have
to be very like, h give off that promiscuous vibe.
Speaker 3: Flirtatious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flirtatious. And I'll completely emit my bias here. I
think it's also tough for me that I've like, I
started watching Sandy sing, which she's like a fucking like
twelve year old girl. So it's like, that's not what
I jump to right away where I'm oh, yeah, Sadie
sinc like I'm sure she can seem sex Yes, I'm
on vodka stream last week where she's like I can
never be like again people only it's fine, but it's
just like yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 2: The good looking girl.
Speaker 1: But that's where it's like, and that's where maybe she's
and she hasn't done that right. She played the fucking
Maxim stranger things. That's not a sexual role, and I
am seen her and other stuff. The only thing I've
seen her in the Tati Swift video and then The
Whale where the Whale she plays like a god awful
very mean spirited daughter. So there's no sex appeal about
that either, right, So and even then the other thing
is it's tough for me in general. The always counterpoint
is like, and we've talked about this before, MCU is
like a very asexual place, like characters don't act like
that in the MCU really like star Lord did to begin,
making him a lot of sexual jokes, Tony Stark did
at the beginning, but then that kind of goes away,
Like I think the Black Cat we get and maybe
that's it too. Maybe actually, you know why, that makes
it easier because I feel like them too. Black Cat
maybe wouldn't be as sexual and like flirtations and using
sex as a weapon or like bat and eyelash. There
might be some flirtations, but not to the same degree
as what we got on the animated shows with the
comic book. So maybe that's the thing where it's like, yeah,
we just need somebody that's like, has a good attitude
and can have some fun woody band for Tom Holme,
which Chasin could do that, right, she can.
Speaker 2: I think she can be like kind of a you.
Speaker 1: Know that person that's very strong, but I could see
you're going toe to toe with Tom Holme and some
quips and everything. So yeah, it seemed like the outcast
right because Max and Stranger things like that. She's like
in the Whale where it's like she doesn't belong, and
that is Felicia Hardy right where it's like she doesn't
belong because she's you know, criminal Heart of Gold.
Speaker 3: So totally