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from a sea tears, Scooper, So we're going to talk

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about this, so Spider Man, we still don't have any

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more casting other than Sadie sinc And I thought there

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Speaker 2: Oh no they did. Do you watch The Bear?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So there's an actress on there the cast. She's

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Speaker 1: But the big thing is I can't remember her name,

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but she's of Porto Rican descent and she's an older woman.

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Speaker 3: Uh no, you just pull of tailor on me.

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Speaker 2: That's again, he's full of tailor on me. He's on

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his videos cruising for.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'll say.

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Speaker 1: I said, I said that they last week from The Bear,

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there's an older actress that's port Rican that they cast.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Puerto Rican female actress, older, late late

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fifty Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican. I'm blanking on the Puerto

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Rican part of that description.

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Speaker 1: So Miles Morales is part Puerto Ric, part Black. You know,

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I'm not gonna say half because I don't know all

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his percentages going on. So it might be a Taylor

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Field Yeah, point zero zero zero nine eighth asianly sure, Taylor, but.

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Speaker 2: We got that. And so this is from a seat tire.

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Speaker 1: This comes from you know, take it with a grain

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of salt, because the Scooper even said that.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Becau's been quiet on the front so far. We got

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to say sink we got this one. It's been said

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that net is coming back, and it's also been said

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that Zenda's coming back. But her role has been compared

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to the size of Homecoming, so which I'm fine with.

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in there, but of course she's a big star. There's

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about to be married or are married, depending who what

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fucking gossip rag you see on the internet. But I'm

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small role. But here's some other tidbits going on. Marvels

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Daniel Wu is currently the front runner for the role,

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but no decision has been made yet. Pang Zong, I

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hope I'm saying that right. Is the fight choreographer for

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in Sung Che. Daniel deson Crat's one condition for taking

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soft rebooting Spider.

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Speaker 2: Man in the MCU.

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Speaker 1: The film will be far more granted wishing with an

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emotional death to it. The other Spider Man who were

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film will be making their returns in Secret Wars.

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Speaker 2: And then they were asked a question.

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Speaker 1: They also asked because we'd heard rumors about this being

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a multiverse thing, and they said, hey, well, if there

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throughout Doomsday, Secret Wars, etc. So obviously we're never gonna

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a bunch of their stuff, and that was like, I

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it sounds like it's multiverse. We heard like Andrew's coming back,

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all this stuff, certain villains. We've heard rumors about Dafoe,

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people are listening for the very first time, how would

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Speaker 2: They've had conversations and it's an idea of what it is.

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Speaker 1: But to me at least, even if it's just like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm a lot more intrigue.

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Speaker 2: Oh there I go, camera goes in out a lot.

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Speaker 3: He just had drying up? Yeah, the well on that

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webcam is it's getting expired. But with mister Negative, I

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more so than the actor pairing. Whoever they get I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done a lot too, like I've seen, Like

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not going to question his ability.

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Speaker 2: I think he's no green corn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah horn, Yeah, you know, like he's green, he's a greeny,

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Speaker 2: Why did you call him a greenhorn?

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Speaker 3: That's that's what they say, right, greenhorn? Google that for me,

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Speaker 2: Horn spelt like with like a double horn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, green horn one word.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a good person who's new or inexperienced in a

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particular amgo, okay, no green horn either, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: Eighty four projects. You think I'm a green horn? But no,

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I think this is awesome. I feel like I really

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second game. I thought, I thought, I enjoyed the character

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that character, I'm sure they're gonna do some juicy stuff

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of what is possible around that character and really really

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like a kingpin of sorts, but then also have cool powers.

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ninety nine percent muscle or whatever the hell it is,

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which which works. He's got a bull bulletproof frame. You

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get shot in the head and he's fine. But mister

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Like I think there's I think I've seen.

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it's a fantastic kind of reboot of Batman.

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Speaker 2: Not read a single page. I'm just bad.

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Speaker 1: I just like I keep trying to set time aside,

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but just busy. I'm hoping after the ten year I

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the things I've have seen and then obviously the video game,

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because that storyline also has like a big to do

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with aunt May, right, and clearly you couldn't do that

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Speaker 1: But if you can take the skeleton of that and

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make it work, like you're talking about, like, oh, the

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mob Boston in that game, that's how it starts. It's like, oh, guy,

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that were philanthropist. That does chair it all work to

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he's like a super villain.

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Speaker 1: Like I think there's a good it kind of feels

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insperien Man has fought then, I was like, he should

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they did the No Way Home Method. It was okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna do new characters that haven't been done before.

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if what they did was Century, I think you do

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that character. It's not just a cutthroat. He's a bad guy,

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didn't connect, right, he was a fraudster Sandman and Vandam

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: We talked about like MJ and Toby's daughter. She could

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be playing just a different MJ.

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Speaker 2: She could play.

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Speaker 1: Spider, Gwen x Y and Z right, Like, I guess

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you could say it could be like a Gwen Stacy

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at this universe, but like I don't see the casting,

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but I feel like I'm now and I don't want

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to get too excited because she easy could just be

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like I don't know, mister Nagieve's like adopt a daughter

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or actual daughter or are they an assistant? Like it

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could literally just be fucking no character. They're like, Okay,

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it's you know, classic MCU. We got too excited, but

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like I'm trying not to get hype. But I'm wondering

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if Black Cat is in play, just especially because like

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we'd heard those rumors before of like oh, they're talking

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to Sidney Sween and they're talking to Annie to their Joy,

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who to me felt very like archetypes of a black

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Cat where.

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Speaker 2: Sadie think I don't think is that she could prove

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me wrong.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what this will happen here, and it

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just feels like, okay if it is more crime based,

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and to me, if we're talking about like mobsters and

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people owing stuff, like black Cat is an easy character

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to gain in that situation, right, like of either working

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for mister Negative or stealing something from him that he

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wants back, and that's how Spierman gets in the adventure. Like,

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I'm leaning more towards it could be black Cat, and

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that way you can kind of do like a like

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it's the perfect sort of love interest for Tom Holm

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right now, because if you throw in Gwen Stacy or

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another Mary Jane, they kind of have to like fall

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in love or something.

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Speaker 2: Where Black Cat the push.

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Speaker 1: Is always like, oh yeah, like I do have the

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hots for this girl, but she's a criminal after all,

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so I can't really go for it, right like his

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moral compass. So you can have them like share a kiss,

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but it's not like, oh my god, like black Cat

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kiss Spider Man. He'll never end up back with MJ

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like because clearly they want him to get back within

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day at some point, right, So I just don't think

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they want to give a great love, and a black

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Cat is never the great love. She's the side chick

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or the rebound chick. Like, she's never the one that

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he ends up with. So I feeling that again, she

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could just be fucking limo driver and you know, oh

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my god.

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Speaker 2: I stole this ambulant. I didn't know what it was,

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you know, so.

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Speaker 3: It could very well happen. I don't think she's gonna

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be the limo driver. It's set up in like just

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a world where I feel like black Cat is like

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a likely set up there. But it's just hard for

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me to like see her as the black Cat. I

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feel like she can play so many different roles in there,

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but black Cat. I'm not saying she can't, but it's

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just like really really low on the list of pairings

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that I would give her.

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Speaker 2: It's just something we haven't seen before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's because like I think both Sidney Sweeney

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and a your Taylor Joy have played like that's called

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Spaine of Spade.

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Speaker 2: It's like not a sex pot role, but it's similar.

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Speaker 1: That, right, you have to be very voluptuous, you have

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to be very like, h give off that promiscuous vibe.

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Speaker 3: Flirtatious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, flirtatious. And I'll completely emit my bias here. I

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think it's also tough for me that I've like, I

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started watching Sandy sing, which she's like a fucking like

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twelve year old girl. So it's like, that's not what

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I jump to right away where I'm oh, yeah, Sadie

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sinc like I'm sure she can seem sex Yes, I'm

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on vodka stream last week where she's like I can

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never be like again people only it's fine, but it's

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just like yeah, like yeah.

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Speaker 2: The good looking girl.

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Speaker 1: But that's where it's like, and that's where maybe she's

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and she hasn't done that right. She played the fucking

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Maxim stranger things. That's not a sexual role, and I

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am seen her and other stuff. The only thing I've

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seen her in the Tati Swift video and then The

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Whale where the Whale she plays like a god awful

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very mean spirited daughter. So there's no sex appeal about

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that either, right, So and even then the other thing

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is it's tough for me in general. The always counterpoint

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is like, and we've talked about this before, MCU is

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like a very asexual place, like characters don't act like

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that in the MCU really like star Lord did to begin,

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making him a lot of sexual jokes, Tony Stark did

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at the beginning, but then that kind of goes away,

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Like I think the Black Cat we get and maybe

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that's it too. Maybe actually, you know why, that makes

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it easier because I feel like them too. Black Cat

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maybe wouldn't be as sexual and like flirtations and using

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sex as a weapon or like bat and eyelash. There

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might be some flirtations, but not to the same degree

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as what we got on the animated shows with the

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comic book. So maybe that's the thing where it's like, yeah,

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we just need somebody that's like, has a good attitude

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and can have some fun woody band for Tom Holme,

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which Chasin could do that, right, she can.

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Speaker 2: I think she can be like kind of a you.

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Speaker 1: Know that person that's very strong, but I could see

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you're going toe to toe with Tom Holme and some

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quips and everything. So yeah, it seemed like the outcast

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right because Max and Stranger things like that. She's like

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in the Whale where it's like she doesn't belong, and

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that is Felicia Hardy right where it's like she doesn't

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belong because she's you know, criminal Heart of Gold.

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Speaker 3: So totally