WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:08.400 House Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.800 to Home where every week we help you better understand 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:14.039 that place where you live. I'm Dean Sharp, the House 5 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.280 Whisperer here with you live like I am every weekend 6 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.960 Saturday mornings from six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings 7 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:25.839 nine to noon Pacific time. 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The podcast, it's always there for you, 25 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.280 and just go ahead and subscribe to it and you'll 26 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:41.640 get to new episodes every week as we load up. 27 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.640 All right, we're talking about hanging stuff inside your home today. 28 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.159 I want to get back to that now. I just 29 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.920 talked to you. Did you go did you look at 30 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.959 monkey Hooks? Did the A students? Did you went and 31 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.040 checked out monkey Hooks? You saw what they are? Right? 32 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.640 They're cool. They're cool. Now, it's not an end all. 33 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:02.840 There's there's no one thing that is the right thing 34 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.079 for every situation. That is why we've taken you through 35 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.840 the steps this morning. You got to figure out what 36 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.319 your wall conditions are. You got to figure out whether 37 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.479 you're going to be punching through drywall, drilling into plaster, 38 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.919 or going into wood. You know, which is a really 39 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.560 really secure way of hanging a thing if you've got 40 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.360 wood that you hit behind the dry wall or the surface. 41 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.080 But also you need to know, because you came home 42 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.560 with hollow wall anchors that the expectation is there is 43 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.039 no wood there and all of a sudden you hit 44 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.599 a stud. Then you know you don't have the right 45 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.360 anchor in your hand for what you want to hang, 46 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.840 which will lead us to the question of should you 47 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:48.039 have a stud finder? And I don't think it's a 48 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.800 bad idea for any homeowner to have a stud finder. 49 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.560 A stud finder is simply a device that will allow 50 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.960 you to figure out where the studs are in any 51 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.599 given area of your wall. Yes, they are. Stud finders 52 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.520 can be very, very confusing because they can be priced 53 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.840 anywhere from five dollars literally five dollars up to hundreds 54 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:18.879 of dollars. So wow, what's the deal with the stud finder? Well, 55 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:23.639 very very expensive stud finders can be adjusted to different 56 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.080 thicknesses of walls. They can read through plywood walls, concrete walls. 57 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.879 They can identify things like electrical lines and plumbing pipes 58 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.520 and various other things like that. They really are kind 59 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.800 of a pro tool. And you know, hey, if you 60 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.240 got money to burn and you want an expensive stud finder, 61 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:42.719 you're going to want to learn how to use it. 62 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:47.159 That's great. Otherwise, a simple basic stud finder for you 63 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.800 will actually work really well. I mean something in the 64 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:54.919 thirty dollar range. And if it's just as simple as 65 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.240 looking for studs in a hollow wall dry wall setup, 66 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.080 then you know what one of the five dollars stud find. 67 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.080 What is a five dollars studfinder. It's a magnet set 68 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:12.000 on a swivel, Okay, And why is that effective? Because 69 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:13.680 studs are made out of wood, Dean, I don't know 70 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.439 if anybody told you, but studs are not magnetic. Now 71 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.680 you're right, you're right, I stand corrected. No, no, no, 72 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.079 but here's the thing. Drywall screws are made out of metal. 73 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.199 And so you've got studs in your wall, and the 74 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:31.279 drywall has been hung with drywall screws that have been 75 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.680 covered over, they've been mudded over, so you don't see them, hopefully, 76 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.000 but they're still there. And so for every stud wall 77 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.399 that you have in your wall, you've got drywall screws, 78 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.680 usually at about every twelve inches, all the way up 79 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.480 the entire length of that stud And so if you 80 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:53.720 take a little magnetic stud finder, which has no battery, 81 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.240 no redoubt, it just simply has a magnet on a swivel, 82 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.959 and when the magnet finds metal right under the surface 83 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.720 of the drywall mud, it points to it, and a 84 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.959 little the other end of the magnet, which is red, 85 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.759 points straight at you and says, hey, it's a drywall screw, 86 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.560 which means, hey, we just found the stud. And there 87 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.040 you go, and you can test it by going a 88 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.399 foot higher and it'll happen again, and a foot higher 89 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.480 and it'll happen again, and then you slide over about 90 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:28.360 sixteen inches okay on average studs. By the way, stud 91 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:33.360 walls for stick style framing are either sixteen or twenty 92 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.560 four inches on center, so you either go over sixteen 93 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:37.360 more inches you'll fight. 94 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:37.639 Now. 95 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.240 They can be closer than that, but they can't be 96 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.920 further away from that, because that's code. And that's why 97 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.839 you can use something as simple as a magnetic studfinder 98 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.040 to find the studs in a wall and you can 99 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.160 bypass all the other crazy side again, a brilliantly simple 100 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.639 device right for helping you figure out whether you're going 101 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:03.519 to hang your painting or your photo right where a 102 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.399 stud is, or whether you're going to have to deal 103 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.720 with the hollow wall situation with hollow wall angers. Now, 104 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.879 what if we're renting, or what if we've got a 105 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:18.279 century old house and we've got plaster, and for whatever reason, 106 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:22.879 we don't want to do any damage to the wall. 107 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.959 No damage to the wall minimal. We don't want to 108 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.120 put holes in the wall. We but we still want 109 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:37.399 to hang some stuff. What about surface mount adhesive based hangers. Well, 110 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.759 it's a qualified yes, maybe, depending on a number of factors. 111 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.720 And I got to tell you, just raising this subject, 112 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.839 one of the comments that I get most are for 113 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.399 three M command strips because they're at every you know, 114 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.759 home improvement there, at every hardware store, hanging right up 115 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.959 front three M. They're like, look, don't amateur wall just 116 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:05.519 peel and stick and hang your photos. In theory, sure, 117 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:12.519 in practicality, maybe let's talk about why they work and 118 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:13.920 what makes them not work. 119 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.000 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 120 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:19.519 KFI A M six forty. 121 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:21.800 Thanks for joining us on the program here in the 122 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:26.120 third hour of our fine program. On a beautiful, beautiful 123 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:31.040 fall day in southern California. Things are cooling down. It's 124 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.199 gonna be kind of a cooler week. It's gonna be 125 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:37.079 nice southern California fall ish, you know, right for in 126 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.079 time for Halloween, which is great. I hope you've got 127 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.439 plans to get out in this lovely day today we do. Uh, 128 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.439 we're just gonna We're gonna get on the bikes. After 129 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.920 the show, We're get on the bikes. We're gonna head 130 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.040 off somewhere. I don't know where we're gonna go, but 131 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.560 we're gonna go somewhere on the bikes. Maybe ride to lunch. Maybe, 132 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.879 I don't know, but uh, we're gonna get out in it. 133 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.000 Get the heart pump and some It's a gorgeous day 134 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:05.199 to be outside. So make some plants, all right, take 135 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.800 my advice, make some plants. All right. We're talking about 136 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.399 hanging stuff on your walls. We've come to the place 137 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.879 now where we arrive and perhaps the most controversial of 138 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.120 all of these systems of hanging things on your wall, 139 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.839 and that is the no damage quote unquote, Dean's doing 140 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:29.920 air quotes here, no damage surface anchors, which means adhesive anchors. 141 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.480 And I said right before the break that I get 142 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:39.120 the most comments from people about three M command anchors. 143 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.159 That's their brand, because they're literally just hanging in every 144 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:45.679 you go down the picture hanging eye or whatever at 145 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.720 the hardware store, and there they are just everywhere, all 146 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:51.519 these packages and the claim is it's three m okay, 147 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:55.519 I mean, so you trust that name, right, But the 148 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.919 claim is, hey, look, you just push these on the wall, 149 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.799 hang your stuff. When you're done, peel them off. They 150 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:07.519 come off clean, no damage, and you're good to go. Okay, 151 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.519 I'm not buying it. No, I don't, because I've seen 152 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.559 and heard too many stories of like, well, yeah, In fact, 153 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.080 Conway was telling me even on Thursday night he was 154 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:23.320 a victim of the command hanger. He's like, yeah, you know, 155 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:28.039 I put those on the wall and then I just wait, 156 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.759 I just wait. Days later, all of a sudden, in 157 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.039 the middle of the night, smash, crash, Man, what happened? 158 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.960 Oh yeah, just fell off, just fell off the wall. 159 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:45.639 So here's my issue with it. My issue with command 160 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.159 hangers or surface mount hangers is, you know, I mean, 161 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:54.639 conceptually I'm all for it, but in practical terms, who 162 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:59.240 is worried about not damaging the walls? Well, probably renters. 163 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.480 If you don't own the place you're you're in the 164 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.759 group that's most concerned about not doing damage to the wall, 165 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:12.519 and rightly, so, okay, if you're renting, chances are you're 166 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.600 also living in a place in which the landlord has 167 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.559 spent the least amount of money on the paint on 168 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:23.240 the walls, okay, And have no doubt about it that 169 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:27.879 you are not sticking an adhesive wallhanger to a wall. 170 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:32.480 You are sticking an adhesive wallhanger onto paint, okay, which 171 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:37.000 is itself clinging to the wall. So, if the paint 172 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.559 in your place is in any way shape or form 173 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.200 a little powdery, if you can rub it with your 174 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:44.960 hand and you get a little bit of you know, 175 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.600 white residue on your hand, flat paint on a wall 176 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.519 because it's old or it was thin, or whatever the 177 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.799 case may be, this is not a strong candidate for 178 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.200 your adhesive hangers. Okay. Second is the fact that so 179 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.080 you can see, well, i'll just put it this way, 180 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.440 you can see the conflict that I have. If you've 181 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.440 got the best possible paint on the wall, it's probably 182 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.440 because you own the place, at which point you're probably 183 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.480 the least concerned about doing damage to the wall because 184 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.639 it's your house and I want my painting right here, 185 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.840 and I don't care I'm putting a hole in the wall. 186 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.840 It's my house. I'm not going to forfeit my security 187 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:28.240 deposit to myself. So that's the home that has the 188 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:34.159 best shaped wall conditions, and yet command hangers are almost 189 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:38.159 inevitably sold to renters who probably have the worst walls 190 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:42.080 to put adhesive strips onto. So that's an issue that 191 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.600 I have. The second thing is understanding that the condition 192 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:47.759 of the wall, not just the quality of the paint, 193 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:51.120 but is it a little dirty, doesn't have any oily 194 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.559 residue on it? Have we completely cleaned that surface? Have 195 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.039 we given it a wipe down with some rubbing alcohol 196 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.720 to make sure that it's as clean as possible? And 197 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:04.960 then finally, have we applied the hook the way it 198 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.159 should be applied? And you're like, well, wait a second, 199 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.559 it's peel and stick, Dean, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but did 200 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:13.279 you know that your best odds for having one of 201 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:17.360 those command hangars stick is to peel off the backing 202 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.759 after you've properly cleaned the wall in the best possible condition, 203 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.480 push it on because it's a foam tape, right to 204 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.039 push it on, and then hold it depressed with as 205 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.559 much pressure as possible against the wall and that foam 206 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:37.600 tape for about thirty seconds. Yeah, that's kind of a inconvenient, 207 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:42.279 but it's the proper way to give that adhesive the 208 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.360 best chance, to give the foam the best chance of 209 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.559 molding around the microsurface of the wall so that it's 210 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:51.840 got the best chance of holding. And even at that, 211 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.200 even at that, am I going to hang something really 212 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.960 valuable there? When I know that there is a likely 213 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.639 that a number of different conditions. Too much moisture in 214 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.320 the air, it gets too dry, the wall paint is 215 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.639 not as good as I thought it was, so on 216 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.159 and so forth, all these conditions that can make one 217 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.360 of these adhesive hooks fall off a wall. Am I 218 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.159 going to put something valuable there? Now? Probably not? So 219 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.679 there you go. So does Dean love adhesive surface mount 220 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.600 of hangars? No he does not. Does he trust them? 221 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.679 No he does not. Has he used them? Yes? Yes 222 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:38.080 I have? Ah ah Where why I'll tell you why? 223 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:42.000 And where I do find them valuable in a couple 224 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:48.399 of situations, on glass, on stone, and on metal surfaces. 225 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:53.120 Why because they can be cleaned, prepped. We're not relying 226 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:57.639 on paint. And that's where an adhesive really shines, Okay, 227 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.200 really really shines. Does a good adhesive leave something behind 228 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.600 when you peel it off? Yeah, it does, because it's 229 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.399 supposed to be grabbing onto the wall. So just don't 230 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.000 buy into this idea that, you know what, you'll stick 231 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.480 this thing on, it'll stay on for five years and 232 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.639 when you pull it off, it will just come off cleanly. 233 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:20.840 How does that even make sense that the an adhesive 234 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:25.200 is super strong, clings to the wall, and yet just 235 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:28.519 by the power of your willing it to not stick, 236 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.039 when you pull it off, it leaves no marks behind. 237 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.480 It's either a weak adhesive that leaves the wall clean 238 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.320 or it's a strong adhesive that leaves itself behind and 239 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.440 mars the wall. So the idea of a no damage 240 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.879 wall adhesive not buying it. Okay, I want it to 241 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.799 stick and be a problem when I pull it off, 242 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:53.639 or it's not gonna stick and I don't want to 243 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:55.679 hang it in the first place. All right, I'm done, 244 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:00.840 I'm off my soapbox about wall adhesive surface anchors. Right, 245 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.639 But on glass which has no surface to damage, I 246 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.600 mean you could even use a little glass scraper and 247 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:10.240 clean it off. Or stone or metal surfaces that you 248 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.039 don't want to be drilling into. Then there you go, 249 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.480 and guess what those are The surfaces that they hold 250 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.639 to the very best for the very longest. All right, 251 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:25.279 moving on now into the final turn on our raceway, 252 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.879 our journey towards hanging things properly. I want to talk 253 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:38.000 about how high where on a wall to actually place 254 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:43.120 this stuff and are there any tools out there that 255 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.399 will help you significantly, because there is some. You know, 256 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.320 if you go to the most hardware stores of the 257 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.279 big box store, you're going to find at least one 258 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:53.480 or two what I would call as seen on TV 259 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:57.039 kind of like look at this hanging kit. Buy this kit. 260 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:00.000 Spend thirty dollars on this kit. It's the wonder hanging 261 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.240 kit and it will make hanging pictures perfectly, you know. 262 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:06.679 All right, we'll talk about it. 263 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.600 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 264 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.159 KFI AM sixty. 265 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.919 All right, hey, thanks for joining us on the program today. 266 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.440 We're having a good time here KFI AM six forty. 267 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:24.480 Your home, Dean Sharp the house whisper. I am finishing. 268 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:28.039 I apologize, I've been I've been going as in depth 269 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.919 as I can to give you all the info you 270 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.440 need on hanging stuff on your home, and I did 271 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.519 not get a chance to get back to the phones 272 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.720 if we left you on the line and you want 273 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.679 to call back next week, you get a free pass 274 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:43.120 to the front of the line. You just let our 275 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:48.840 producer know that you were on hold, left left, neglected 276 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.200 by Dean last week, and you know we'll put you 277 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:55.320 to the front of the line. See, we're, we're, we're 278 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.639 for everybody here. All right, let's let's get into the 279 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:04.359 final steps. Here. I've covered all the anchors. Now let's 280 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.119 talk about just a couple of items of the actual 281 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.200 process of hanging stuff on your wall. How high do 282 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.119 you hang a thing? Well, if it's a large, significant 283 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.200 kind of painting or piece of artwork or a photo. 284 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:25.160 Here's the Now, these are all guidelines, not rules, not laws, 285 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:31.200 not inviolable laws, just guidelines. Okay. This is how, for instance, 286 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.559 things are hung in art galleries to maximize your viewing 287 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.440 of said object. And that is very simply the center 288 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.839 of the item, from top to bottom, the center of 289 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.920 the item. You try and target it at eye level, 290 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:51.079 not your height, okay, eye level, eye level of those 291 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.200 So and if you live in a home with height 292 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:01.079 challenged people, we'll just put it that way. Shorties like 293 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:06.799 my wife's entire family, or taller people, and you want 294 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.960 to maximize the viewing pleasure of you said people in 295 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.160 your family, then you know what, measure everybody's height and 296 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:15.920 take an average and say, okay, this is where we're going. 297 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:20.759 But typically eye level for the average adult human being 298 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:24.440 is right about sixty inches, right in the high fifties, 299 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.799 right about sixty inches to the center of the item. 300 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:32.599 So there you go optimal viewing level. Now, if you're 301 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:36.160 doing a collage of a bunch of different frames and 302 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:39.319 photos all together in one clump, then try and get 303 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:43.240 the clump centered at eye level right, So it works 304 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.799 either way, whether it's just one item or a grouping 305 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.559 of items, try and get the grouping roughly at eye 306 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.720 level when you can. Now. The exception to this. One 307 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:57.160 of the exceptions to this is if you've got a 308 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:02.359 wall that the item is sharing with, maybe a door 309 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:05.640 or a window, right, so you may want to consider 310 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.240 may and again not a rule, but you may want 311 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.839 to consider hanging that item with its top level to 312 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.279 the top of the other elements, like level to the 313 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.000 height of the window or the door. Or if there's 314 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.240 a pair of scance lights in the room, you may 315 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:28.000 want to align it to one of those immovable permanent features. 316 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:30.240 The key is you know, take a look at it 317 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.799 and see how it looks. And the most important part 318 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.880 of this is a rule that I've told you again 319 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.359 and again, and I'm going to apply it here as well. 320 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:45.559 From a design perspective. In the world of design and craftsmanship, 321 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.720 when it comes to aesthetics, you either want to get 322 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.759 it right on the money or miss it by a mile. Okay. 323 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.640 So in other words, if you're going to hang it 324 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.640 at the height of the door, like you've got a 325 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.599 frame that's going to go right next to a door, 326 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.240 and you're like, you know, I think it would be, 327 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:05.359 then get it right at the top of that doorcasing 328 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.039 right where that door's line is on the wall. Make 329 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:12.400 sure you get it boom right on the money, or 330 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:17.759 don't get close, miss it by several inches, lower, higher, whatever. 331 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.200 A near miss always looks like a mistake. So right 332 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.480 next to a door or a window and down a 333 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:28.200 half an inch or up one inch too high, that 334 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.839 looks like it's something wrong misaligned. So either hit it 335 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:34.000 right on the money or miss it by a mile. 336 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:39.640 Either is totally acceptable. Near misses always always look like 337 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:44.079 mistakes in colors, textures, in alignment of things. We just 338 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:50.240 don't close only is good for horseshoes, not for decor 339 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.119 inside a house. So miss it by a mile or 340 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:57.920 hit it right on the money. Okay. How to measure 341 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.319 is challenge because it all has to do with where 342 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.359 the hanging exists on the back of the item. But basically, 343 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.880 have a good tape measure or a ruler on hands 344 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:13.519 so that you can estimate properly where the hanging point 345 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.440 is in relationship to the top, bottom, or sides of 346 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:19.400 the item, and then account for that when you're actually 347 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.039 making marks on the wall. But I got to tell 348 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:27.000 you this, as far as the tools, okay, go here 349 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:32.559 is the very best hanging tool that you can acquire 350 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:36.880 for putting stuff up on your walls is a friend, 351 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:42.960 all right, somebody standing back giving them giving you their perspective, 352 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.400 or you standing back and them holding it on the 353 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.359 wall so that you can see how it works out right, 354 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.799 and you can make that that's just the best. Tina 355 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.000 and I always work together when we're hanging stuff in 356 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.759 a client's home or in our own home, right, So 357 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.400 the best tool you can acquire for the day that 358 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.799 you're hanging important stuff is a friend. The second best 359 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:10.759 tool is blue masking tape. Blue masking tape is in 360 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.960 fact the thing that it has all the qualities that 361 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.599 I talked against when it came to surface anchors. Blue 362 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.640 masking tape does not have a strong adhesive. It does 363 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.599 not easily do damage to walls, nor does it stick 364 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:29.640 for very long. But that's to your advantage. Blue masking tape. 365 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:34.359 We use it all the time to draw out frames, pictures, doorways, 366 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:39.039 all sorts of stuff that we use to emulate shapes 367 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.759 on walls. And then we stand back and look at 368 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:43.599 it and we're like, yeah, I think that'll work. No, 369 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.359 let's lower it down by about three inches. And then 370 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.039 you grab the tape and you pull it off, and 371 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:51.279 you lower it three inches down. You move it left 372 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.960 or right. Blue masking tape is your friend when it 373 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:58.839 comes to planning this out. Here's what you don't do, okay, 374 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.039 what you don't do is take a guess at it. 375 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.720 Put all the holes in the walls, put all the 376 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.920 hangers in place, hang all the stuff by yourself without 377 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.640 giving it any consideration as to whether or not you're 378 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:16.680 exactly where you should be, and then stand back and say, hey, babe, 379 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.160 come on in here, tell me if this is okay. 380 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.119 You've already made all these holes. What are you doing? 381 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:27.359 Use and a simulation first, that's the point. So if 382 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.640 you have a friend or a partner with you, they 383 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.200 can hold it up. And if it's not too big, 384 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.319 they can hold these things in place. If it's a 385 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:36.960 lot of stuff, use the blue masking tape, or if 386 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.720 it's a big thing like a big screen TV or something, 387 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.039 use the blue masking tape on the wall and get 388 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.160 your concepts down so that you know, yeah, this is 389 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.400 where it's going. It's going right here, and then you 390 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.359 put your hangers in place properly measured from the top 391 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.400 of the tape and from the sides, and you're good 392 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:57.880 to go. All right, So a little planning, a little simulation, 393 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.920 a little emulation first before you commit to the hanging itself. 394 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.240 And if there's multiple things being hung all the way 395 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:09.799 across the room and you want to get them all 396 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:15.920 at the same level, then an inexpensive laser would would 397 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:20.720 be really really useful as well. And nowadays an inexpensive 398 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:25.240 interior room leveling laser level you know, you can pick 399 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.519 those up for less than fifty bucks. And what they 400 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:31.680 do is they cast a beautifully level horizontal line all 401 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.839