Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cris Podcast. I'm Dahlia.
I'm one of the co hosts, and I'm here with
my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law, The
Exquisite and the lovely Bitch that's me. We are here
to talk sister wives, Honey. As always, we are coming
to the end of season nine. I thought we were
going to get some catfish goodness in this episode. Are
you just busting in to our literal.
Speaker 2: Banks?
Speaker 1: I think you were recording a podcast, right, big. You
can't just you cannot just open this our job. We're
working one of the figs in from our fake tree
for you.
Speaker 3: He's always given me weird shit to eat. You're like,
try last time it was canned oysters.
Speaker 2: He's like, give you your had them. They're really good with.
Speaker 1: I've spent my whole life trying never to have them.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: They're pretty good though.
Speaker 1: We're recording a podcast. He just barrels in here like
some sort of cool aid.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I can't take it. Where was that? What I was
saying was that we are approaching the end of season
nine and I was hoping for a little bit of
that catfish juiciness. But there wasn't any they're edging us.
They are edging us a little bit, but I still
enjoyed this episode. Yeah, before we get into our recap,
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So thank you in thank you, Okay, before we get
into our recap, Beatrice did you have any takeaways after
watching this episode.
Speaker 3: The only takeaway I have is that I want to
go to Alaska me too.
Speaker 2: It looks so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's literally perfect.
Speaker 2: I want to live there if it wasn't so expensive.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Also, when they were grocery shopping, I was kind of
eyeballing some of the prices at the grocery store, I know.
And I'm pissed off me too about this hyperinflation because
this is a lot back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, whatever,
and it's already a higher cost of living. But even
back then, yep, the prices were cheaper than what it
is right now.
Speaker 1: I know. I was just at the croker. We just
wanted to get some stuff for sandwiches, some deli meats,
some bread, Like the bread is so expensive. And now
what these companies are doing is selling mini loafs. Yeah,
it's a half loaf for the same price as I
used to pay for a full loaf. And the size
of the bread pieces, the slices of bread, they're manature, Like,
what is happening here? Do we not have any consumer
advocacy in this country?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: How come this is happening? It makes me have so
much rage.
Speaker 3: We are not angry enough collective enough.
Speaker 1: And yes I noticed the prices as well. I've also
been to that grocery store. Really, I've also been to
that town. We stayed at a hotel called the al Yeskah,
my god, so I was real familiar with it. But
that's out to Girdwood was like looking at portraiture. Yes,
like this can't be actual real life.
Speaker 3: Literally my dream.
Speaker 1: Alaska is gorgeous. And that's my takeaway too. Yeah, all right,
without further ado, let's get into today's recap of Sister
Wives Season nine, episode eleven, and to Totti.
Speaker 2: A boy or a girl?
Speaker 3: Oh, because we're going to center the whole episode around
Robin and co and their baby gender reveal. But we
have the whole family preparing for their trip to Alaska.
The only one that's not able to make it is Hunter,
who is at some Air Force academy or something in
Nevada or whatever. And that's great for him, but everybody
else in the family is Colorado.
Speaker 2: But is it I don't know the.
Speaker 1: Air Force academy. Well I don't know Colorado.
Speaker 2: Do you think I know shit about shit?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, your wife's father went to the Air
Force Academy.
Speaker 3: And aren't there multiple Air Force academies. Don't think there's
literally just one. I think it's the one in Colorado
Spring Goddamn right, Sorry, I'm not an expert anyway. So
Hunter's at the Air Force Academy. Everybody's getting ready for
their trip to Alaska. Everyone is going to be there
except for him, so including Logan and his significant other, Michelle,
and Maddie and Caleb. Caleb has to work, so he's
only going to be there for a couple of days,
but he's gonna fly in and meet the family as
Maddie's significant other, even though the family kind of knows
him already because he's associated with the family. But not
much to really go over. At the beginning of this episode,
everybody's packing, everybody's chaotic and unorganized.
Speaker 2: As per usual.
Speaker 3: But we have like a little segment with Janelle kind
of talking about Maddie and Caleb and like how they
first met and when they first met, Maddie was underage
and allegedly Caleb wasn't interested in her because she was
a minor and sure, Jen, but Maddie was obviously hardcore
flirting with him even though she was underage, but now
she's so it's fine.
Speaker 1: Right, So he was waiting for her to become legal allegedly.
But also I thought that Mattie said in this episode
that originally she didn't like Caleb. Yeah, they were not friends,
but then when you hear Janelle talk about it, it's like, no,
she was flirting with him from the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And according to Janelle, Caleb was the one that
brushed Mattie off because she was too young. Yep, but
Mattie's saying that she was the one that was like, no,
it wasn't interested at all.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever press.
Speaker 3: Acts we got to say to kind of blur the
lines of your guys' age gap, like whatever, okay. And
then we also have Cody and Robin going to get
their baby ultrasound before everybody leaves for Alaska, because they
plan to tell everybody it's a big surprise, reveal what
the gender of the baby is.
Speaker 2: And honestly, like, I don't I.
Speaker 1: Don't care, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: I really don't care at all.
Speaker 3: And so then when they arrive in Alaska, they rented
this big house. I guess it was like a multiple
house rental or something, but they rented the whole thing
because they have a million people. Logan has Michelle there.
He's a little bit worried about her because she comes
from a very small family and this is a very
large family and it's a bit overwhelming. So he's just
trying his best to make sure that she's comfortable.
Speaker 2: And we love that.
Speaker 1: We love it a lot. At some point, Janelle kind
of talks about how cool it is to see Logan
in a romantic relationshipeah, just how he's taking care of
Michelle and how he's so sweet, and it really was
cool to see and to know that they go on
to get married and they've been together all these years.
That's pretty special.
Speaker 3: That's what I really liked about It was like, you know,
this is the first time we're really introduced to Michelle
or introduced to a girlfriend of Logan's, and it is
the girl that he ends up marrying. And same thing
with Maddie, like we get introduced to her significant other
and she ends up marrying him and having a bunch
of kids. Like I do love that for them. I
think it's really cute as well. And then when we're
at the Alaskan rental. You know, everybody's unpacking or whatever
and getting settled. We have this little tiff between Solomon,
who's like a three year old, I don't know. He
bawls his hand into a fist and I think he
like tries to hit one of the kids or something.
This pisses Garrison off because he's a parentified child, I think,
and he tries to reprimand Solomon, but he does it
poorly because he's also a child. And then the parents
get super pissed off at Garrison because you know you're
a child, don't act like a parent. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this made me so angry. Can't we
just stop here for a moment? Yep? Because who are
you fooling? You have parentified all of your children. And
Cody's like, you don't presume to tell me, Garrison, how
to correct my own child. And he's like, I'm just
trying to advise you. That's yeah, Oh the audacity. But like,
Cody's your dad, so I get it. Are we trying
to pretend that you haven't put these kids in this
position the entire time? And after we watched mckelte's interview,
the most recent interview with cults to consciousness. She talks
a lot about how she was out here changing diapers
her siblings diapers when she was four years old. So
it's absolutely in alignment with the way they've conducted themselves
as parents to have Garrison out here trying to parent
Solomon inappropriately. Yes, yeah, and he shouldn't be doing it
the way that he's doing it, of course, but like
can you blame him? Because where are you exactly?
Speaker 3: And my thing that pissed me off about it was
like there was no accountability for the parents in acknowledging
that they made their older kids PARENTI like, parent all
of the younger kids. There was absolutely none of that.
They were just saying like, well, we don't really like
it when the older kids try to parent the young
since like, what.
Speaker 2: Do you mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just last season was an Aspen taking care of
truly who had a kidney infection, Like that's the thing.
Cody was on the grill burning steaks and couldn't give
a shit, Like your kids are still even in this episode,
Logan is still getting all the kids together and being
a parent more than these five.
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that, like Logan straight
up was acting like a sixth parent in front of
everybody this entire trip, like he's organizing everything. But it's
okay when he does it, and it's okay when Aspen
does it because they do it the right way right
and they've been parentified since they were wee. But when
Garrison does it and again he like you said, he
did it kind of poorly because he's a teenager, then
he gets reprimanded.
Speaker 1: But that kind of goes back to our ongoing conversation
about how it really does feel like they target Garrison,
and it also feels like Garrison acts out maybe because
of that, Like he's always butting heads in particular with Cody,
and I'm like, what's what's really going on here? Because
of course, in later seasons, Garrison is the one who
calls Robin and who kind of front's Robin about how
she is stealing all of Cody's time, et cetera. He
plays a big role in calling out what's happening in
the family, and you can kind of see him agitating
now at this younger age, and I just feel like,
I feel bad because I can see how Cody focused
him in a way that was focused on him in
a way that wasn't necessarily appropriate, almost like he felt
like Garrison challenged him personally, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And he probably did. I mean, because that's how kids
are with your parents, Like your kids are supposed to
kind of challenge you.
Speaker 1: As a parent, But he's taking it personally.
Speaker 3: And I think that's exactly what's happening here. And like
I think with Garrison, the other aspect is that he
does tend to be seen or viewed as the kid
that has anger issues or like has more of like
a short fuse. And so I think that triggers maybe Cody,
maybe triggers Mary a bit, triggers some of these parents
because they don't like that and they don't want to
see a kid act out.
Speaker 1: But it's like, are you asking yourself why?
Speaker 3: And that's what kind of pisses me off about it,
because you can tell like there's something going on with Garrison,
and I don't want to, like, you know, paint my
own perspective on his mental health struggles here, because I
obviously am not Garrison, and I don't know what he
was going through this time. I can just relate to
it because I was a kid that used to act
out a bit too, and I used to be pretty angry,
and even as an adult, like I still struggle with
those aspects because you know, I didn't learn how to
like regulate my emotions because I didn't grow up in
a house where I learned how to do that. And
when you grow up in a house like this with
a million fucking kids and no parents around to help
you learn how to emotionally regulate, like you're gonna be
kind of pent up. So I don't know, I just
felt bad for Garrison. I also feel bad that these
are the moments that are memorialized for him. It actually
really bothers me a bit, like watching these back and
I just don't like.
Speaker 1: It, agreed at all.
Speaker 3: I also felt like they were getting mad at him
because he was targeting Solomon, which is Robin's kid, And
how dare anybody target my sweet baby vampire child.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Well, and you do have to wonder though,
like whether there's some jealousy there with Garrison, Yeah, because
he's seeing in these moments how much Cody prefers not
just Robin but her kids who he just adopted, and
also Solomon, who is his bio child. And I think
Garrison is probably a paternally neglected son, and here Cody
is just doting on King Solomon with his cherubic, beautiful,
little three year old behaviors and everything. And I'm sure
there is some jealousy for Garrison, but like, okay, Janelle,
instead of like always correcting him and lecturing him like
you're supposed to be his soft place to land, I
just wish there was more context, more understanding, and maybe
behind the scenes Janelle was having those conversations made Garrison
because certainly when he becomes an adult and he buys
his own place, he makes a spot in his backyard
for Janelle to have a garden. He loves his mother.
He's protective of his mother. So I'm hoping that Janelle
is actually having a dialogue with him about this stuff
and yeah, saying, hey, I understand why you feel like
you need to step in, but like it would be
great if you could also show the audience that because,
like you say, like this is really all we ever
get from Garrison, his fights with Gabe, like his tantrums,
his anger issues. Yep, nobody ever talks about why they
might be, like why we have these issues?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing that's hard for me is like,
cause I just don't know if those kinds of conversations
are really happening behind the scenes. If Janelle or any
of the family is sitting down with Garrison and being okay,
you've been acted up a bit, Are you okay? Is
there anything that you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: Like, we're here for you. I think it's.
Speaker 3: Hard for parents to do that sometimes because teenagehood is
difficult for everybody around, and like there's a lot of
emotions and a lot of ridiculousness or whatever. But I
just I don't know. I felt bad for Garrison. I've
been a Garrison and so I just it sucks that
this is a scene that is here forever.
Speaker 2: It just bothers me.
Speaker 1: You just wish you could go back in time and
give him a hug yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Just keep on it.
Speaker 1: He does need it and can tell he needs it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it just sucks.
Speaker 3: And so then the next day or whatever, the family
goes out for breakfast, and I just can't imagine being
like in a small town in Alaska and having twenty
five people want to come home for breakfast. I would
be so stressed. If I was working at a restaurant
and I saw the Browns coming in, and then they
go grocery shopping because they want to you know, obviously
eat at home for the majority of the time because
eating out is not practical for this large of a family.
So they have twenty four people, that's twenty four meal
for eight days. And I'm confused because at one point,
like Logan says that they're going to be there for
fourteen days with all these people, but then when they
go grocery shopping, it's only eight days, so I don't
know what that means. But they're at the fred Meyer,
they're going grocery shopping. They have stupidly bring the entire
family with them, which I'm just like, why would you
do that. I'm already over stimulated.
Speaker 1: To send a couple of the wives for.
Speaker 2: Real, And then it's much more organized.
Speaker 3: But they go shopping, and everybody's playing bet placing bets
on how much the grocery bill is going to be
a lot of the older parentified children are like, we
got way too much fucking food, Like we don't need
all of this.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 3: But ultimately they end up at the end paying over
twenty eight hundred dollars for their groceries.
Speaker 2: And again, I'm just thinking that if this was.
Speaker 1: In today's oh my god.
Speaker 3: It would be like six thousand dollars, six or seven
thousand dollars like at least. And it just pisses me
off so fucking bad because there's literally no reason for
our groceries to be this expensive.
Speaker 1: You're right, I think these corporations are gouging us. Yeah,
like when there's an emergency, like a national emergency, where
there's whether there's like a state emergency or hurricane or whatever.
Like if a gas station gouges and raises their prices
because people need to get gas, like that's an offense,
Like you can be fine, like the government will go
after your ass. And I'm just wondering when the government
is going to go after the ass of all of
these corporations. Fucking freedom, labe, dude. I was looking at
I know, I was looking at Dorito's at Groger when
we're doing sandwiches and stuff like that. The bags are
so much smaller, and of course you can't see into
them because if you were to see into them, you
would see maybe twenty five percent of the bag is
filled with chips, like Why isn't there some kind of
regulation where companies can't fucking do this to you. I
was watching somebody on YouTube, and let's just go on
a tangent here, but I was watching somebody on YouTube
talk about how gen Z is actually the disruptor for
a lot of this because unlike my generation Gen X
and even a lot of the millennials, and certainly there's
no boomers out here doing this, gen Z will call
your company out. They will open your bag of Gurrito's
on TikTok and they will pour it out and show
that there's only sixteen chips in that entire bag, and
they will shame these companies. And it's actually having a
big impact good on a lot of them. Like McDonald's
has been down in terms of their profits, Wendy's sits down,
Burger King is down them all, but fast food like
Chick fil A, fast food like In and Out, also Chili's,
they actually are increasing in profitability because they are not
trying to gouge everybody. Like, I just don't understand. I
just don't like, how do you stop this? Now? There
is some of it that is actual legitimate inflammation, inflammation,
economical inflammation, and inflation due to COVID and printing money
on demand. Yeah, there's going to be a correction to that.
But like, we need some help out here. We see
all these billionaires just enriching themselves in fucking data centers, Like,
can you just help them? I gotta stop. This is
I'm gonna it is really awful.
Speaker 2: It's horrible.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in all of my life.
And I've been through like the seventies, gas shortages, I've
been through inflation in the nineties, interest rates that were
sixteen percent for home buying. Like, I've seen a lot
of shit, but I ain't never seen this shit.
Speaker 3: No, And it's fucking bullshit. And it doesn't seem like
there's any like relief.
Speaker 1: Any end in sight, like any plan. Nobody's even talking
about it in our government, I know, And honestly, I
don't think it matters what side of the aisle you prefer.
None of them are talking about it, and they're talking
about their pet fucking interests and nobody cares about actual Americans.
And it's really really infuriating. And say, bitch, I was
looking at those prices too. It was like two ninety
nine for like peanut butter or something. I'm like, oh,
you know what, fucking world.
Speaker 3: And a dozen of eggs was like three bucks, and
I'm like, what the fuck is going on in Alaska?
Speaker 1: So that's ninety nine cents in Texas exactly the way
that it ought to be.
Speaker 3: Like, come on, I just don't understand. It just pisses beyond.
Speaker 1: The names on the side of my head.
Speaker 3: I wonder if we have any international raccoons or prices
just as insane over there, or is it just Americans
that are getting aspucked.
Speaker 1: I think people around the world are getting as fucked.
I think because it's a global elite society. Yeah, that's
bending a silver and throws back to Cody Brown's sister.
Sorry about that, guys, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just fucking pissed off about you. So then the family
goes panning for gold, and maybe.
Speaker 1: We need to do that so that way we can
maybe we can sell some gold or something like that. Geez, Curney.
Speaker 2: They go panning for gold.
Speaker 3: It's fun or whatever, and then the family does a
little competition to see who got the most gold. Of
course it's Garrison because he's the goat, and he got
like ninety dollars worth of.
Speaker 1: But did you hear Robin say, oh my gosh, I'm
gonna have so much fun today. I love gold. Yes,
she's like, oh okay, she's got champagne tastes this woman,
and when she enters the family, she's got a beer budget.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: But now we're in twenty fifteen, we're going into twenty sixteen,
she's starting to siphon off the money and she wants
to collect her gold.
Speaker 3: And I think it's funny that that's like the one
activity that she participated in because when they go hiking later,
she's at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pregnant. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I can't do it, but I can pan for gold though.
I want a new gold ring, please and thank you.
And while they're panning for gold, they do this like
I think it was the ham Trail or something like that,
where they're in that little metal thing and Christine's screaming
a lot.
Speaker 1: Christine was screaming all episode.
Speaker 2: I just had to mention it because it was really annoying.
Speaker 1: Screaming on the couch, talking about how she was screaming
on the cage and I'm like, why are you screaming
all the time? And maybe I'm neurospicy and I don't
know it, but I'm just like, somebody, shut this pitch up.
I understand you're excited, and I understand you're happy, but like,
can you just stop screaming all the time. Some people
can't handle decibels well.
Speaker 3: And for me, I was thinking about it, like, I
feel like she's compensating for something. I feel like this
isn't actually her real personality, Like she's kind of obnoxious
in general. She's kind of a loud, boisterous person. But
there's a difference between being a loud, boisterous person and
somebody who is compensating and trying to be like fun
and loud, like look at me, Ah, it's like, shut
the fuck up. You don't have to act like that.
I felt like she was compensating for Cody or something.
But Cody, you can tell, is annoyed way.
Speaker 1: He's repulsed by it.
Speaker 2: He's disgusted, he is he hates her so much.
Speaker 1: And the more he hates her, the more she screams
for attention.
Speaker 2: Yet that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, the more he pulls away, the more she's like
big and old and fun and I'm cheerleader for the family.
I'm like Christine and like I'm a Leo.
Speaker 3: I like loud people. I like obnoxious people because I
think it's fun.
Speaker 2: But she's annoying as fun.
Speaker 1: What I feel like you're saying something?
Speaker 2: No, me, what you're a Taurus.
Speaker 1: I don't you think I'm obnoxious?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you're loud?
Speaker 1: Really yeah, okay, but anyway, go on.
Speaker 3: No, But like, I like loud people and I think
they're fun, but like Christine was annoying me. So maybe
I'm neurospicy too, But I'm just.
Speaker 2: Like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Seriously.
Speaker 3: You don't need to scream all the time. It's just obnoxious.
And so then Caleb arrives, he flies in. He's again
only there for a couple of days because he has
to work, because he's a hardworking man.
Speaker 1: We love that.
Speaker 3: We do love that he's meeting the whole family as
Maddie's significant other. The family again knows of Kayleb because
his sister is married to Cody's brother. Right, so I
think he's like.
Speaker 1: Is that the brother that passed?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of blurred.
Speaker 1: I thought it was Curtis, but then I am not sure.
But yes, that is how he is related to the family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the family knows of him. Mattie is already
a little bit embarrassed because she doesn't want her family
to bombard Caleb with a bunch of questions and a
bunch of obnoxiousness. So she kind of tells the family
to like, chill the fuck out. And I think Logan,
also as the older brother and the sixth parent, is like, y'all, chill,
it's Mattie's boyfriend. Let's be on best behavior. And ultimately
everybody ends up listening to Logan because he's the real
dad here. And so when Caleb arrives, Mattie's expecting everybody
to hound him for everything, and everybody's just awkwardly staring
at him and is very quiet and very respectful, which
is kind of cute in its own way, but Mattie
thinks it's a little awkward. And you know, we hear
from Mattie a little bit saying that she knows that
Caleb is the one She's gonna be with him forever.
She loves him so much. And I just think that's
really cute because they do end up together for and
they have a bunch of kids and I thought it
was cute just seeing them so young, because Caleb looks
all handsome and nicely.
Speaker 2: No, he does.
Speaker 1: He looks the best that he's ever going to look
in this moment, and Maddie is really smitten. Yeah, he
seems like a gentleman. And the age gap is inappropriate,
especially if Janelle has been facilitating this relationship, which I
believe she has been since Maddy was maybe sixteen years old.
I don't know, that's conjecture, it's a legit, but they're
here now, they're in love. Yeah, and it's cute.
Speaker 2: And how old is he now? Is he like twenty seven?
He's not in his thirties right now?
Speaker 1: Is he in the season?
Speaker 2: In this season?
Speaker 1: No? I think he's like twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty nine. Oh,
but I think she's eighteen nineteen, she's first year of college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yikes, it's inappropri I mean, it's inappropro But you know,
they're happy now and whatever, and they're grown adults and stuff,
and that's fine. But it is a little weird, yes,
at this point, Like I'm old, I'm twenty nine, and
I can't imagine like even going after somebody seventeen seventeen. Yeah,
like they're literally children to me, right, but whatever, So
then you're not a man?
Speaker 2: No, oh yes, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 3: So then the family goes hiking on the Iditarod charrail
and it's absolutely fucking gorgeous. But Robin is staying home
doing whatever, and maybe she's staying home with Solomon. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't be too critical because she is
pregnant or whatever.
Speaker 3: She's got a little killed. But everybody goes hiking. They
meet up with a you pick tour guide.
Speaker 2: He says he's an Eskimo. His name is Mo.
Speaker 3: And then Cody are kind of shooting the shit and
it's kind of funny a little bit. They're talking about
polygamy of course, you know. Of course the Eskimo is like,
so you Mormon, and we have to make the distinction. Well, yeah,
but we're fundamental this Mormon. We're not a part of
the Mormon church because you know, the LDS Church would
have had a fit if the Browns tried to associate
themselves with them. And Moe the Eskimo says that they
used to be polygamists too, back in the before four times,
but now they're not, and then he tries to pimp
out his six sons with Cody's daughters, and I guess Cody,
according to Mary, made a comment about selling his daughters
for a price, but Cody was just joking, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Just like, ugh, why don't we have to watch this interaction?
I know it's just annoying.
Speaker 3: And so then when they're taking their little hike, they
stop for lunch at one point, and this is where
Cody goes and sits with Maddie and Caleb very awkwardly.
Speaker 1: That was such a strange conversation.
Speaker 2: I hated this.
Speaker 3: I was uncomfortable because Cody is like he knows on
the back of his mind, and all of the parents
know that Maddie and Caleb are surus that Caleb's probably
going to ask Maddie to marry him at some point,
and so Cody goes over there with that thought in
mind and starts telling the story about how he went
and asked Robin Grandpa for her hand in marriage and
he was given him shit for it, and I'm just like,
nobody cares, dude.
Speaker 1: It's also interesting though, that he would select this story
of Robin Yea because he's got three other wives, and
it's just so obvious to me that he only thinks
about Robin when he's thinking about a love story, Like
he could not give a shit about his other three wives.
Speaker 3: And it's so funny because it's like, this is Janelle's daughter,
so why don't you talk about yeah, meeting her mom
and asking whoever for her handed marriage, But no, like
we're gonna talk about Robin, and I just wonder what
their thoughts were at that time. I mean, obviously, Maddie
says to the camera like this is weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's looking away and she's just counting the
minutes down before Dad stops talking.
Speaker 3: And she's like worried about if she gets up, like
he's gonna bombard Caleb with questions about their relationship or whatever.
Speaker 1: I do that to you when you came into the family,
when you first met me and I knew that you
too were serious.
Speaker 2: Was I like, no, but.
Speaker 3: You you were texting me and I have screenshots from
back in the day of you being like, we'll take
you to Vegas right now and you can get married
and stuff like that. But it wasn't like anything that
made me feel uncomfortable. It was genuinely, like from an
encouraging place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I loved you, Yeah, exactly, so great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, like it wasn't anything weird, like Cody
in this moment with Caleb, Yeah, and I just I
don't know. I think Cody was coming from a place
of like trying to be supportive. But like Cody doesn't
know how to be a human being because he's a
demon he's masquerading as so he's like trying to relate
with these stupid stories and it's like it doesn't really
land the way that you hope, no for it, and
he's like trying to explain it to the camera too,
Like no, it's like just being supportive and it is
being encouraging, But.
Speaker 1: Like, how come you can't read social cues like most people,
even children, Yeah, like children can read a room sometimes,
Like you could probably look at your daughter's face and
look at Caleb's body language and deduce for your dumb
self that they're not into this conversation and maybe that
you shouldn't be having it. Maybe there's another way that
you can approach it. But no, he can't read social
cues and or he doesn't care about how anybody else feels,
and he wants to do this on camera because he
wants to seem like the good father who's encouraging Caleb
to ask his daughter for her handed marriage. I don't know,
just felt very contrived. It felt very weird, like why
are you putting your daughter through this? But Cody doesn't
care at the end of the day. Cody doesn't care,
not at all.
Speaker 3: And I think it speaks to his narcissism a bit,
because you could just be a father and sit with
them and be like, hey, you guys are a really
great couple. You look awesome together. Caleb. I think you're
a great guy, and I just want you to know
like I support you in your relationship.
Speaker 2: I think you're great together.
Speaker 3: That's it doesn't need to be anything more than that.
But Cody wants to tell the story of him, and
Robin wants to let everybody know this little journey he
went on to ask for her handed marriage.
Speaker 1: He wants to do it on camera.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and then to the camera on the couch, he's
saying something like, well, it's just doing it to like,
you know, lay out the red carpet for Caleb to
come to me, because I know he's going to talk
to me, but I want him to know through this
story of me and Robin, this love story, that he
can come and talk to me. It's like, oh, shut up,
just shut up. You can just say that with your words. Yeah, hey, Caleb,
you can talk to me anytime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: And so then they returned back to their rental after
the hike, and Hunter had contacted Robin while everybody was
out hiking, saying that he had time to call them
because he's at the Air Force Academy. He doesn't have
a lot of time to talk to anybody, but now
he does, so he wants to FaceTime everybody. And I
actually thought that this was a really sweet moment for
the whole family. I felt like it was really unifying
in a way because I think somebody had mentioned, like
Janelle or something, that normally it's really hard to quiet
everybody down for everything, like for any kind of situation,
it's hard to get everybody to settle down. But when
it's Hunter calling the whole family, everybody is silent, everybody
is very attentive, everybody's listening, everybody's gathering together, and Janelle
actually gets a bit emotional every time he calls. And
it's so funny because she's not an emotional person at all,
And I don't think she's very in tune with her
emotions because she says something like, I don't know why
in emotional Well, because it's your baby boy, he's in
the military.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I think she's also wondering, though, why she doesn't necessarily
feel that emotional reaction with, for example, Maddie who's off
in college. Logan is off in college, is doing his
own thing, but he's in Las Vegas, so he's close by.
But so she's a little surprised at the depth of
her emotion for Hunter being away. Yeah, but I also
think that it's really sweet. I think it's very that
she loves she I think Janelle loves her children definitely.
I don't think she was the best parent necessarily, but
she definitely loves those kids.
Speaker 3: I think she was a bit distant, like emotionally, and
so you know that you would have.
Speaker 1: To be though, to be a polygamist, don't you think
you would have to shut down fundamental parts of yourself
in order to exist in a structure like that. So
I think she's been doing that for decades.
Speaker 3: But she does love her kids, that is for sure.
And so Janelle's a little emotional, she's weepy, but Hunter
is happy to say hi to every kiddemy. I do
love military people, me too. And so this is also
the time that Robin and Cody decide to announce the
gender of their baby, because Hunter's.
Speaker 4: On the condemn scenory, And like, my thing is is
if it was anybody else other than Robin and Cody,
I could see it as like an endearing moment, But
it kind of felt like to me, Robin just trying
to steal the moment for herself, Like.
Speaker 2: No, like, let's put the attention back on me, not.
Speaker 1: On Hunter, interestingly stealing it from Hunter, who she's got
an issue with because he was not happy the first
time she got pregnant.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. And so Robin has little
gifts for Truly and Solomon to open their little baby
dolls that will reveal the gender of their baby. And
so she has Truly and Solomon open up the gifts.
They're pink dolls.
Speaker 1: It's a girl.
Speaker 2: Everybody's decided.
Speaker 3: Everybody called it pretty much. Hunter does say something kind
of interesting. He's like, well, I've got a lot of
sisters already. I guess one more is all right or something.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't like He's a little bit more encouraging
than that. He's like, and I love my sister, does
look forward to having another sister.
Speaker 2: I felt like there was.
Speaker 3: A little slight passive aggressiveness in my opinion, But everybody
starts talking to Hunter afterwards, and again everyone's quiet and
attentive and they're just happy to.
Speaker 2: Hear from him.
Speaker 3: It is kind of said that he's not on this
big family trip because we end the episode kind of
reflect on this trip as a whole and how this
is likely going to be the last like big family
vacation that they have where they have everybody together, because
we have all the older kids moving on with their
lives and doing their own things. Obviously, Logan and Michelle
are going to get married, Maddie and Caleb were going
to get married. Aspens in college, Logan's in college, Hunters
at the Air Force Academy. Like everybody's kind of moving on.
Leon is going to be going to graduate school.
Speaker 2: I think one of the other ones is going to
graduate school.
Speaker 3: I forgot, but like everybody's moving on and doing their thing,
and so it's kind of sad that Hunter's not able
to be there. But I thought that this was really sweet.
And it's kind of sad watching this back because everything
turns to shit after this, and I don't mean to laugh,
but like it really does implode.
Speaker 2: Like they had it good.
Speaker 3: They had the cold Sack, had the homes. I know
Cody was obviously favoring Robin, but at least they were
all within vicinity. They had the family together, the siblings
were mending their.
Speaker 2: Relationships, right.
Speaker 1: But Mary, We're going to get to the next episode
where Mary is going to tell the adults that she's
not sure if she's going to stay. She's saying this
at the dinner, and this I remember from when I
watched years ago, and I think she says to the
camera that something bad has happened and she's let a
terrible force into the family. I don't think she tells
them about the catfish at the dinner. I don't think
she does. I think she does at the dinner. Okay,
I'm not okay, I don't I'm not remembering necessarily, but nonetheless,
in the next episode, she's going to blow up the situation.
Between her and Cody. It's never going to recover. It
never recovered after their divorce either, And I do think
this is the beginning of the ultimate downward spiral of
the entire family, Like Cody's going to get really bitter
and upset. Leanne is obviously going to be very upset
with Mary. I think the other wives are going to
be trying to figure out, okay, like how do we
need to act and behave so that we can keep
this family together because this is obviously a huge rift
and there's just gonna be a big wobble uh huh,
And that's gonna throw the whole thing off of its axis,
and we're gonna go to flag Staff, We're gonna have COVID,
and then it's a knife in the kidneys, bitch. That's
the trajectory we're on.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, like watching the preview for next
week's episode, like the last half of the Alaskan trip,
like how crazy it is for Mary to announce that
on this like lovely family vacation. That's also like the
reveal of Robin's baby gender and everything. I was kind
of thinking like maybe this is when like Robin starts
to turn for the worst, Like she was already shitty,
she's already really.
Speaker 2: Selfish or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering if this is also what motivates Robin
to steal Cody even further and like manipulate him even more,
because how dare amir like ruined this sweet moment for me?
If Robin's this true narcissist, like that would be such a.
Speaker 1: Blow, right, it would be. And you can kind of
see it in this season in particular, like how every celebration,
every big storyline revolves around Robin. It's the adoption, it
is their legal marriage, it is the adoption party, it
is the biodad to her kids. It is now the
pregnancy and the announcement around that. It's like I'm kind
of sick of it, Yeah, and just wondering what's happening
behind the scenes with the other wives and the family,
Like are they feeling it like we're feeling it. They
have to be right, It's always about her. It totally
everything is about her.
Speaker 3: It's actually a great point. This entire season has been
about her. Even the last half of season eight was
about her. It's just ramping up, yep. And so it's
funny how like it all ends with like her second pregnancy.
She's probably like at the top of the world, you know, like, mean, God,
I've got everything I wanted. And then Mary comes in
with the catfish and the family just starts to disintegrate,
and then she's going to see her empire kind of
fall down.
Speaker 1: Well is it falling down? I mean she's in her
second mc mansion. She's sitting on top of the world.
They had a thirty episode season twenty or whatever it
was or nineteen or twenty whatever. Like she's making money
hand over fist, So she probably thinks that she's winning.
I don't know. She probably doesn't believe in karma, and
she probably doesn't think that karma is a bitch and
it's going to come for us all. And how you
treat people is how you ultimately get treated by the universe.
Robit true.
Speaker 3: But I'm just wondering, like how they're even able to
afford all that stuff. I can't imagine all of its
cash flow or anything.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're debt financing.
Speaker 1: They're still debt financing. They are definitely debt. They got
to be. They are living high on the hog, well
beyond their means, and I just don't see how any
of that is sustainable now to that end, and I
know we're wrapping up, but has anybody you heard when
the next season drops?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of Sister Wives.
Speaker 3: I thought I heard some rumors on Reddit saying September
or was that just us? Say?
Speaker 1: It could have just been us because typically like the
new season drops August or September and it ends around
the New Year's so we're kind of coming up on it,
but there hasn't been any talk.
Speaker 2: Let us know if you guys know anything.
Speaker 1: Sister Wive's ecosystem, Yeah, what's happening? Because I want to
see what's going on. I want to see what they do,
the direction that they actually take us, and whether we're
gonna get real, whether we're gonna talk about some of
these adult kids who are now on social media calling
out these parents, whether we're gonna talk about like what's
happening in the real life, or if it's just gonna
be Christine's fucking Airbnb's and Janelle's farm and like not
ever getting to the issue.
Speaker 2: Look, it's gonna be that, it's gonna be that.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be that, and I'm not like looking forward
to that, Like we're gonna watch it, but it's just
it's gonna be a slog and it's gonna be heavy
on the Code and Robin because they're girl gass bitches.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It feels like when you're watching
this season, season nine, it feels like production's almost setting
that up by focusing so much on Godian line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they not underderstand that we do not want that.
We don't give a shit.
Speaker 1: I do not care. And again, my prediction is they're
going to have a recommitment a bowel.
Speaker 2: I will want to watch that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I will want to watch that.
Speaker 2: I need to see the track and all of the
money that they spend on.
Speaker 1: I need to see all of it. Who comes, Nobody's
gonna fucking know what anyway. So there's a lot of
things that could happen, and I'm just wondering when it's
coming back. Yeah, we need to know, if you know,
let us know, And Beatrice, is there anything else that
we need to say to these beautiful raccoons before we
get up on out of here?
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Speaker 1: We're going to be back next week to talk sister wives, honey,
because again it's the cabfish if it's popping off and
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But in the meantime, please do.
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