WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:02.120 Baby, I'm a game statue. 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:05.919 It takes a lot of tangle. You don't want mess 3 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:06.320 with me. 4 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:10.039 Mess with me baby a gangstato. 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:13.839 Pouch. 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.879 Baby, You're a game statoo. 7 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:24.440 For Good Warner. 8 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.399 This podcast is designed to take you outside of your 9 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:29.800 comfort zone and make you question reality. 10 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:31.879 Listener Discretion is a vibe. 11 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:39.520 Talk with the fellas. 12 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.640 This ain't my first time at the rodeos. 13 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.840 Howady, folks, your host double jback here coming at you 14 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.640 live slash live from my studio slash RV dining room 15 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.680 located directly inside America. Welcome back, folks of the airwebs 16 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:35.560 once again, JJ Vance here host of Operation GCD, but 17 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:40.359 perhaps more notably not the Vice President. I will be 18 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.840 your pilot navigator here tonight, folks, for this shenani and 19 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:48.480 infused journey into the mind of this particular garbage can. Dude, 20 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.799 got a real barn burger on deck for your for 21 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:57.439 you folks of the innerwebs here tonight. So appreciate you, folks. Uh, 22 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:59.400 you know, thanks for joining us here again to get 23 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.359 a little GC because we got a cult. An s 24 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.239 O Terror review of the nineteen eighty five cinematic masterpiece 25 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:11.759 Back to the Future with an entire Occult Rejects lineup, 26 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.439 including Nick Host of The Occult Rejects. 27 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.159 Welcome, Nick, thank you, Welcome sir. You know I would 28 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:20.759 have been really upset if you didn't consider this one 29 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.840 a barn burner. I swear to god, I even had 30 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.159 that in my head. If he does not use barm 31 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:25.719 burner for this, I'm gonna say something. 32 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:28.599 No, this is definitely this is definitely a barn burger. 33 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:29.719 This is definitely a barn Burger. 34 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:30.039 Yeah. 35 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.319 And we got a whole, like I said, a whole 36 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:36.039 Occult Rejects line up. So to GCD, we got Jen 37 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:38.759 Ope that's not Jen the Ninja wrong one and Jen 38 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.479 the Ninja Welcome, Welcome Jen. 39 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.520 Thank you so muchj and Nick for having me on. 40 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.599 And I absolutely love doing these episodes. I know people 41 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.960 on Twitter are always so excited when it's like a 42 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.120 group of us. I think it's like the five for me. 43 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.560 I know I won't give your secret away, Nick, but 44 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.319 I know on the Carl what episode we use a 45 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.000 different hormatic number. I should say we but someone, but 46 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.800 five for me is a perfect traumatic number. So I 47 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:08.280 appreciate that we can do these kind of roundtable aesotopic 48 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.919 reviews and I think they're really hot and people love them. 49 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:13.120 So thank you so much for guys for having me on. 50 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.479 Oh for sure, host of the Threshold Saints and the 51 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.039 fellow occult reject there, and I definitely appreciate your all 52 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:20.879 insight in the last one. We did well, We've done 53 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.080 a couple of good ones recently, right, we did a 54 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.240 little uh, Big Trouble, Little China, and we also did 55 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.199 a little Golden Child, So those are great ones. I 56 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:33.000 certainly enjoyed those myself. Next time we got I do 57 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.879 you Love, host of the Unfiltered Rise podcast and fellow 58 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.800 a cult reject. How you doing, Heidi, welcome. I'm happy 59 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.759 for joining Mellow GCD here your first appearance, by the way. 60 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.719 Yeah, I'm excited to be here and on operation at GCD. 61 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.680 That is right, right, because we've done Fridays, this is 62 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:50.759 a different one and we're just always together. 63 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.560 It's so fun countless other cult reject shows, right, So 64 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.759 if you can introduce the Unfiltered Rise podcast to the 65 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.000 Operation GCD that perhaps is not familiar. 66 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.039 Absolutely so, I'm Heidi Love of the Unfiltered Rise. I'm 67 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.560 also an ex Mormon just like JJ and I talk 68 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.759 a lot about that on my show, but I also 69 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.759 do kind of a whole multitude of different things, anything 70 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.240 that strikes my fancy, especially like Mormon Mafia, weird stuff 71 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.480 like that, you know, it's a garbage can. 72 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:26.560 Too, and some great parapolitics stuff, especially relative to the 73 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.040 from JFK to Whitewater, et cetera. And I think, you know, 74 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.920 I have a general annoised theory that everything kind of 75 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.680 goes back through that Whitewater threading to JFK. So what 76 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:36.800 we're dealing with today that. 77 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:41.199 Is absolutely absolutely Well, thank you guys for being here. 78 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.199 I love everyone here, all the rejects and boss, thank you. 79 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.600 Well, there you go, thank you, last but not least, 80 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.079 and then particular order at cos me Pete. Julia, welcome 81 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.959 to Operation GCD. Your first appearance as well. Much like Heidi, 82 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.480 we've done some Fridays and plenty of O cult reject shows, 83 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.600 but thanks for joining me yet PCD. There Julia, looking 84 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.040 forward to We did. 85 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.040 The Golden Child together, right. 86 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.759 Holy smokes, you were on the gold See now here 87 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.920 we go. I was just telling Hidi yesterday about that 88 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.879 Ed Cassis show we were doing ocult rejects. I thought 89 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:13.120 she was there, So I keep I keep replacing who 90 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:14.560 was in these shows, so I do apology. 91 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.839 Everybody here could probably in a test. How many times 92 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:18.199 I'll text him be like, did I ask you for 93 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:21.000 this show? I can't even remember. You're gonna have write 94 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:21.199 it down. 95 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:21.920 I forget there. 96 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.839 I mean, not just one second there, Julia. Yesterday I 97 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:29.240 was in a podcast with doing some Mormon parapolitics and 98 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:33.560 society Cincinnati conversations on the sixth Censury podcast with Heidi. 99 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.040 There was a fellow guest and I kept referencing in 100 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.120 the show that that show we did with Ed Cassis, 101 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.480 and she kept and she finally says, I wasn't there. 102 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.120 I was like, oh, shoot, you weren't there, Like, how 103 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.240 long do I play along with this? 104 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.079 This is my favorite thing? He said in my brain, 105 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.160 you were there, you should have been there, And I'm like, 106 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:51.240 I was off of work. 107 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:56.319 I just didn't know. Oh yeah, shoot I was. I apologize, Julia. 108 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.920 No, It's it's all good in the hood. I'm just 109 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.519 happy to be here. I'm excited for this movie. I 110 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:07.839 got a lot of cool notes, and what the fuck's up, everybody, 111 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.680 I'm excited, what's the. 112 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.680 What's what's going on? The Cosmic Peach podcast as of late, 113 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.000 what's the focus. I'm actually the subjects you've been interested 114 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:20.000 as a late. 115 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.480 I'm working on a I don't know if I'm gonna 116 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:26.480 do three or four parts, because I always try to 117 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:28.639 do four parts, but this one might be three parts. 118 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.480 But I'm working on a new series about sleep paralysis 119 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:39.519 and uh, demonic and paranormal experiences. So that's a new 120 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.560 focus right now, and that that series should be dropping 121 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.160 next month. So I'm actually really excited about that. 122 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:51.319 That's so exciting for you. Again, I appreciate y'all joining me. 123 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.160 I got to one plug real quick, real fast before 124 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:58.240 we get started, and that's my upcoming Sunday show eight 125 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:02.360 pm on Sundays, Operation GCD Live Sundays. In the first 126 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.399 first episode this Sunday, the Curse of Robert the Doll. 127 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:11.399 So this is my uh Patreon my new Patreon series 128 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:14.160 here on Sunday. So that'll be in the show notes 129 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.560 along with all your l's links as well. 130 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:16.399 You know, what the hell is he? 131 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:17.319 Where you scared? 132 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:17.560 Though? 133 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.519 Are you scared to start that crap up over there? 134 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:23.240 I don't. I don't like looking at a photo of Robert. 135 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.160 That's why I muppetize him in the first place, even 136 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.000 though I've been on a real muppet trend as of late. 137 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:28.480 But yeah, I don't. 138 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:28.759 Uh. 139 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.120 I sleep well at night, but thinking about this damn 140 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:33.560 thing and the curse, I don't know if I sleep 141 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.519 that great the last couple of nights. But maybe I'm 142 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:40.279 looking at this. I was about to say, speaking of 143 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.759 sleep for Alicis, Robert might be haunting me in that too. No, 144 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.199 I'm trying to approach this more of a cathartic experience. 145 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:46.439 I know. 146 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.000 Uh, Julia had it invited me onto her show to 147 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.079 discuss the matter. I'm like, all right, well, let me 148 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:52.959 get all my thoughts on it firstly, put it down 149 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:54.439 in order, and then I'll be happy. I'll be happy 150 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.800 to join you there, Julie. After the Sunday's The Curse 151 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.000 of the Robert Doll operations sounds. 152 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:01.519 So. 153 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.639 But tonight we're talking about the nineteen eighty five cinematic masterpiece, 154 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:11.240 Back to the Future, And I believe this really started, 155 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:14.439 uh to a conversation. I mean, we've been doing these 156 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.519 occult esoterical views here. I'm a big fan of film 157 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.240 and just telling stories and the way stories are told 158 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.759 in the first place, and you know, and kind of uh, 159 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.720 you know these I love the ideas of time. So 160 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:27.600 this this, you know, this movie has always been a big, 161 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.000 big interest of mine. But this really started off with 162 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.159 a conversation Nick and I had, I think we were 163 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.720 doing some disc golfing, and he was making a reference 164 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.559 to how how often or the the use of the 165 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:44.360 term spooky that I that I was, I often call 166 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.240 the la you know, the intelligent sagancies or lack of 167 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:51.519 intelligence agencies, the I call them, you know, spooky, you know, 168 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:55.240 spooky operations, et cetera. And uh, Nick, you know, Nick 169 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.840 thought I was you know, at first, when we heard 170 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:59.120 me saying that, he was telling me that he thought 171 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:01.480 I was making some sort of auditory and racial reference 172 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:01.840 of summer. 173 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.639 Right, was like when I was a kid and I 174 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:08.200 heard my whatever grown ups say that it was that was. 175 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.759 A common note nomenclature there a few decades ago for 176 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.000 you know, for some you know, but I guess I 177 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.960 suppose about the same as the N word, right. 178 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:15.360 Yeah. 179 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.039 So as soon as he said that to me, I 180 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.080 thought of the film Back to the Future. So I 181 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.759 was like, oh, well, yea, just like Back to the Future, right, 182 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:25.879 So that's kind of that's kind of what where he 183 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.480 and I first started talking about the Uh, there's a cult, 184 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.200 n esoteric review of the film, But I'd like to 185 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.759 hear where we're y'all were first interested in in this, 186 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.879 you know, starting off Nick, where where did uh you know, 187 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:39.639 was this a film you were always a big fan 188 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.440 of since you were a child, or did you see 189 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:42.080 this in the theaters? 190 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:44.519 I don't think I saw it in the theaters, but no, 191 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.279 I mean it was definitely a movie that I had, 192 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:48.600 like on a VHS tape that I watched multiple times. 193 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.559 You know, Yeah, it was a classic for me. Yeah, yeah, 194 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:54.919 that that in the second one I did. I did 195 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.919 enjoy it. Everyone was a little because of the train, 196 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.879 but I did. Uh yeah, it was. It was huge. 197 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.080 I mean I feel like maybe what was that eighty five, 198 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.960 so I was seven. I mean around that time. I 199 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.600 think it's kind of silly how I felt like at 200 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.080 that time you were kind of seeing the world spring 201 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.120 I think forward in a sense too, Like it's hard 202 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:17.840 to explain, but around that time, I even feel like 203 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:19.840 with music and just what was going on in the world, 204 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.440 it was changing as well. So I guess like that 205 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.519 was like oh this is what's the come in the future. 206 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.679 I don't know, it just seemed very nostalgic, you know, 207 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:34.960 at the time, even watching it then. But yeah, that's 208 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:35.440 all I got. 209 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.080 I think JJ frows I cut out. Yeah, yeah, No. 210 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.320 There was a very sci fi futuristic aspect to this. 211 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.960 I remember as a child thinking, like, especially with the 212 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:48.399 second one, I'm gonna I'm gonna need be one of 213 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.799 those hover boards, you know what I mean, Like, you 214 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:52.440 know those things will be around in the future, right, 215 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:53.879 you know what I mean. It's kind of funny because 216 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.720 twenty fifteen is much like the I don't think we've 217 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.519 really gotten that more technologically advanced outside of some cell 218 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.600 phone right technologies, right, some little stuff. 219 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.399 Exactly. Yeah, it's not like we thought. 220 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:09.919 Yeah no, I said, I think this was the first 221 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:11.799 film that I ever saw at the theater. I know, 222 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.519 I know, I saw the second one in the theater, 223 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.600 and like you were saying, I wore the VHS out 224 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.960 on this one for sure. I'm pretty sure this was 225 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.320 the first film I saw at the theater, but I 226 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:26.600 would have been I would have been almost six. So Jen, Jen, 227 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.799 when did when did you first find out you're a big, 228 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:32.600 big fan of Back to the Future. Is this something 229 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:34.799 you've been a big fan of, is you know your 230 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.480 whole life as a child or what are you talking 231 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:36.840 about here? 232 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:40.720 So I'm a nineties kid obviously, and I sure watched 233 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.519 it in the nineties, and I think I liked it, 234 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.600 Like it's to me. I wasn't sure like when you 235 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:48.960 were like, do you want to do this? Of course 236 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.600 I want to do our movie reviews. It's like the 237 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:55.759 most fun thing we do pretty much everybody, right, So 238 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:58.519 you know, of course I want to do it. But 239 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:00.279 I didn't know how much I could add to it 240 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:03.840 for through this film, simply because of my unfamiliarity with it. 241 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.000 But then Nick, being the great boss that he is, 242 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:10.240 sent me his great notes and I was like, oh, okay, 243 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.360 You're like yeah, okay, And then I was like, yeah, 244 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.639 this actually totally makes sense. This is like I can 245 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.320 follow his holistic logic from like beginning to end. And 246 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:20.879 I was like, yeah, these are the same things that 247 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:25.440 I thought were really interesting. So I mean, I feel 248 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:28.360 like I'll just be more riffing tonight and like let 249 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.759 everybody else who is really into the film that go, 250 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:35.720 But I definitely will like how I'll add where I 251 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:37.799 have to add, and so for me back to the 252 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.559 future is we'll call it true Chino because I know 253 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.559 you love that JJ for this you know esoteric or 254 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.120 cult review. But I'm not sure if it's a true 255 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.919 Chino for me. But I really liked it, I have 256 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:55.000 to say in rewatch, which is just yesterday, So I 257 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.360 enjoyed it. I thought it was weird and as eighties 258 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:06.720 as I remember, right, and maybe sorry. 259 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:09.320 JJ, no, I'll say, so when did you persue? So 260 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.600 you saw kind of the whole trilogy? Then maybe you 261 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.279 know all at once then, right, you didn't have to 262 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:14.360 wait between the trilogies. 263 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:18.279 Then it's interesting because I even watched the trilogy in 264 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.840 anticipation for this episode because I was like I needed 265 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:22.840 to kind of know, like I have to know the cannon, 266 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.519 like have a familiarity with like the text. Right, So 267 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:32.720 I guess I must have watched them on VHS or DVD, 268 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.399 because like I'm more DVD E era. But yeah, we definitely, 269 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.240 I definitely had VHS. I'm kidding, so, but I must 270 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:41.559 have watched. 271 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.159 But there was no antist You didn't have to wait 272 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.600 like anticipating the next one coming out there, right, because 273 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.120 there was always the to be continued with a like 274 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.159 a cliffhanger scene. 275 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.879 Right, No, so I'm I'm not. I'm not old enough 276 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:55.039 to yet be like affected by the cliffhanger. 277 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:55.360 Right. 278 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:57.879 That was very pactful on my childhood, and I'm not 279 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:02.399 that was very hyped, very hyped. So I appreciate that. 280 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:02.600 Jen. 281 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.279 So, Julia, when did you first discover the Back to 282 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.879 the Future and were you in a similar situation as 283 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:09.759 Jen where you weren't left with a bunch of cliffhangers? 284 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.240 Because I'd ask the same to hide a yeah, I 285 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:13.159 think I know the answer. 286 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:20.000 Well, shit, I just turned thirty, but I still identify 287 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:20.919 as twenty nine. 288 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.399 My pronouns are forever and young. 289 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:24.840 And so. 290 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.120 My brother and sister grew up in the eighties, and 291 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.759 so when I was really little, they would play like 292 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.679 all the great eighties movies For me. I didn't have 293 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.159 to wait. I just watched them all, back to back 294 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.600 to back, Back to the Future, Back to the Future two, 295 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:45.960 Back to the Future three. My favorite is actually probably no, 296 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.360 it's the first one. In the third one, actually, did 297 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:49.759 you see what. 298 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.919 Did you grow up with that? There was? 299 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:51.000 That? 300 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.600 Was that a cartoon in your childhood? 301 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:52.759 Too? 302 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.639 What the cartoon version of Back to the Future. 303 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.919 I never fucked with it, but I will say I 304 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:03.320 was soon obsessed with the movies. And actually I kind 305 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.039 of had like a little bit of a crush on 306 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:08.120 Michael J. Fox there for a minute because it was 307 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.200 like teen Wolf and like some of those other like 308 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:17.200 really cool eighties movies that he was doing. And so yeah, 309 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.080 Gane for sure, And I actually have a little bit 310 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.519 of a story about that when we get into like 311 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.639 stuff about the movie with Michael J. 312 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:25.120 Fox. 313 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:29.159 But yeah, no, dude, I loved Back to the Future, 314 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.000 the first one, in the third one, like I said, 315 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.759 my fave. I didn't grow up in the eighties, but 316 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:38.000 I definitely fuck with it heavy. I love all the 317 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:38.840 eighties stuff. 318 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:44.080 Nice, nice, well, last but not least hide He went, 319 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.600 when did you discover the Back to the futures? And 320 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.919 were you as affected by these cliffhangers as I was? 321 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:53.320 Oh, definitely. I think I'm the oldest one on the panel. 322 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:58.679 So I was like this is crazy cool. 323 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.360 And like, oh, I hope we have flying cars and 324 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.559 all this from the second one, like it was just yeah, 325 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.440 the third one, you're right, it's just not it doesn't 326 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.519 have the third one love me anyway. 327 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.440 Yeah so, but it was so I appreciate it more 328 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.279 than I like other sequels. But I agree with you. 329 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.080 I think the first two or they were more of 330 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.399 a home run. I think, yeah, so good. 331 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.480 How can you not like the third one? 332 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.519 It's like the perfect. 333 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:24.799 Ending, the good one? 334 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:25.159 About that? 335 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.360 Do they? 336 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.639 I mean they ended it enough for me to be 337 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.080 satisfied with their not being a fourth one. 338 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:36.000 They're making a remake, supposedly. 339 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.759 I'm not interested in a remake. They ruin everything and 340 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.519 they put their woke bullshit in it. When they make remakes, 341 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.399 they're going to cast a black guy to play Marty 342 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:50.360 McFly and they're gonna have some tranny playing. 343 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:51.720 Doc and I don't want it. 344 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:53.399 I just don't want it. 345 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.919 Leave it alone. It's funny you mentioned that. It's funny 346 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.639 you mentioned that, Julie. Have you you all familiar with 347 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.159 the Back to the Future musical. That's that has been 348 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:02.159 a big thing, is. 349 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.440 Harry Tranny playing Doc Brown because they don't want. 350 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.400 To know now. But much like in this film we've 351 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:10.559 discussed in the Back to the Future film, you know, 352 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:12.799 it's weird that Marty McFly goes back in time and 353 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.000 he's kind of like got a thing with his mother's 354 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:16.319 got falls in love with him, and so there's this 355 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:19.640 kind of incestual thing. Well in the Broadway musical version 356 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.279 and the Broadway Musical version, I think he went back 357 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.559 in time and his dad had a thing for him again. 358 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:27.079 Oh no, said that. 359 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:29.880 It's not overtly that way, but like I mean, I'll 360 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:31.720 show you a clip here just you know, stand By 361 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.920 Police one second, I got, I got a clip of 362 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:41.720 exactly Fly is not gay. Well, well, the Broadway version 363 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.119 probably is, but I hear what you're saying, so, isn't 364 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.119 it it is? It is kind of fascinating how much 365 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.400 this is spawn a cultural phenomenon there, right, like this 366 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.839 this film you know here it is you know, forty 367 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.839 years you know later, right almost right, I think was 368 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.640 July third of nineteen eighty five, right that they released 369 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:03.799 this film. So you know, it's crazy still, right, and 370 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.000 it's still it's still very impactful because, like I said, 371 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.079 they're doing Broadway musicals. You know, if you all recall 372 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.160 in the film, you know, in the in the sequels, 373 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:16.079 they go to October fifteenth, twenty fifteen, right. 374 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:21.519 Which everybody freaked out on that dread out life on Instagram. 375 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:25.000 Oh it's October fifteen, two thousand fifty. Well, they even 376 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.640 did things like I Got a clipper. They even did 377 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.799 things like this on the Jimmy Kimmel Show on that date. 378 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:35.240 WHOA. 379 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.440 Of course, of my calculations, this is the year two 380 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.240 thousan fifteen May the Future. 381 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.640 That's so, I mean, you know this was you know, 382 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.240 it's right, wrong or different whenever you think of Jimmy Kimmel. 383 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.119 That's a big audience. They are doing this on, you know, 384 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.119 as a you know, tribute to this culture that was 385 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.359 created I think, and it is the sci fi culture general, 386 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:02.359 but I mean it is specifically this film. I think. 387 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.960 I think the esoteric elements that we're going to be 388 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.480 discussing here this evening, some of these occult and or 389 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.920 esoteric elements is these these things that are embedded in 390 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.039 the storyline of the film is what makes it so 391 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:15.880 time you know time, you know, standing through time, as 392 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.880 far as being a good story, great you know, told 393 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:23.119 in a great film. Right, And yeah, I mean, I 394 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.559 don't know what, uh, I don't know. I've ever met 395 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.279 someone who's like, oh, yeah, back to the I've seen 396 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:28.839 Back to Future and it's super dumb, you know what 397 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:30.480 I mean, like, because I think you see that with 398 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:31.920 some of the air sci fi stuff. But I mean 399 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.559 it is a very wide What I'm saying is has 400 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.839 a wide ranging audience for sci fi folks, right, Like 401 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:38.960 you don't have to be a Star Wars person or 402 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.000 a Star Trek person to be kind of, you know, 403 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.160 into this I think, into this idea of back to 404 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:45.519 the future and time travel. 405 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.920 And it's so embedded in pop culture. Oh sorry, no, 406 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:51.359 that's okay, please. 407 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:54.359 Oh I was just gonna say it's so embedded in 408 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.680 pop culture, you know, like a lot of movies still 409 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:02.720 reference things from Back to the Future. So yeah, it's 410 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.519 it's definitely timeless for sure. 411 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.119 Jim, what we what we're gonna say there basically just 412 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.759 echoing both you and Julia's thing that it was. It's 413 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.240 it's a cultural phenomenon. Like, and I agree with you, 414 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.400 this film has such wide ranging appeal. But I didn't 415 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:20.799 actually think of it as a sci fi film really 416 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.680 what I was thinking of, and but it is. But 417 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:26.759 it really is a science speculative fiction film. Maybe not 418 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.079 a science fiction film as we would like normally think 419 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.480 of it, maybe not like total recall science fiction but 420 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:35.519 it is a speculative fiction so from that angle, actually, 421 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:39.640 now I'm like very like, oh, okay, can like that. 422 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.039 I'm back, Yeah, you're back. 423 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.480 Did you hear what Jin said? 424 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.920 Yeah? No, it just started storming here, real, real bad. 425 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:50.799 What were you saying, Jim? Can you can you repeat 426 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:51.160 that for me? 427 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:51.799 Oh? 428 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:53.880 Yeah, no problem, JJ. I just was saying, it is 429 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.559 a sci fi film, but it's more of a speculative 430 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.759 fiction film. Then it's like a total re call, which 431 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.319 would be like a high science fiction because of sudden 432 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.119 space Okay, Dick travel, right, So this is really a 433 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.920 speculative fiction film, so people don't You're totally right. And 434 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.440 when you said that, people don't have to enjoy science 435 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.359 fiction to go watch this film. But the film really 436 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.759 is oxial, like science fiction is oxial to the whole film. 437 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.160 Absolutely. I'm glad to pointed that out, because because we're 438 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.400 not before before we get into the actual you know, 439 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.680 characters and plotline of the film, I'm gonna I would 440 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:30.359 like to take on our own little trip back to 441 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.079 the future and go over how this sci fi stuff 442 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.160 began and how this stuff was impacted in which to 443 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:37.599 the culture which to even create this film, right, what 444 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.240 what's the backstory on that? 445 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:39.519 Right? 446 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:39.720 How? 447 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.319 How did the how did the nature of these tales 448 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.480 even come about? Where? Where's the root of science fiction? 449 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.519 Where's the root of these ideas of time travel? And 450 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:53.279 strangely enough, it largely revolves around a fellow that I 451 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.680 described last week in Operation GCD Live in My In 452 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.319 My Tales of Cocaine, Bob Evans meets Marvel Comics is 453 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.079 DC and Marvel Comics to leave the fan fiction that 454 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:05.079 was all focused around a fellow by the name of 455 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:08.480 Forrest j Ackerman. He's actually known as mister science Fiction, 456 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:11.839 and he's the guy who coined the term science fiction. 457 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.359 So I'm glad you pointed that out, because we're gonna 458 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.960 be getting into little bit of that. Did anyone else 459 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.839 have any more any more opening comments or statements here? 460 00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:25.039 Before we do a quick quick clip of the trailer 461 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.519 to the film, you know, just to get folks that 462 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.720 are refreshed on the I mean, who doesn't know back 463 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:32.880 to the future, But if folks have the interwebs are 464 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:35.039 out there, who don't I have a brief clip in 465 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:39.720 which to refresh folks memories. But if anyone else has 466 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.599 any other comments before we do that please feel free. 467 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:49.319 We're good all right. Actually, you know what, I'm glad 468 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.920 I stopped myself there for a second, because once again, 469 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.079 this is how this whole conversation began. I have a 470 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.160 clip of that first. 471 00:22:58.799 --> 00:22:59.599 Messing up my hood? 472 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.200 The hell are you doing in my car? Hey? Be 473 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:09.240 it spoof? This don't concern you who you call it spook? 474 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:09.960 Take a wood? 475 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:12.119 Hey? 476 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.519 Hey, listen, guys, look, I don't want to mess with 477 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:15.440 no reforatis. 478 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:16.519 Okay, you'll. 479 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:20.559 I met. 480 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:23.400 Do you ever hear that? Do you ever hear the 481 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:24.200 Peckerwoods before? 482 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:25.720 No? 483 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.519 I'm not now. 484 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.000 Yeah. Yeah, they're a group I met in prison as well. 485 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.079 They hung out with the Odinis. 486 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.319 They all have like themselves. 487 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.920 Yeah they have like what wood? Yeah, they have like 488 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.559 white pecker whatdy woodpecker tattoos and ship. 489 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.799 Out of here. Oh my god, I'd never heard of that. 490 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.480 I just got cracked up because you know, that is uh, 491 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.400 you know, the term spoo because obviously you don't know 492 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.599 how long it goes back to with intelligence operations. I 493 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.119 presume that back that far. But it's that's the term 494 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.000 I know for intelligence operations, not the you know, the 495 00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.839 reference from Back to the Future. But it cracks me 496 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:02.319 up up and that seems very kind of important and 497 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.359 the whole narrative because you know, Michael J. Fox's character 498 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.400 Marty McFly gets locked in that trunk, and it is 499 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.480 that trunk that's an epicoite. That being locked in that 500 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.000 trunk's an epicenter of activity that you know, I don't 501 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.440 want to I don't want to confuse mess folks. Brain 502 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.519 holds up at the moment trying to, you know, explain 503 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.680 time and how this you know, that seems imperative to 504 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.079 this whole circular nature of time in this film, because 505 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:25.359 I'm sure we'll get into that at some point. But I, 506 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.440 you know, I think that is a very important scene. 507 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:28.960 It's not just comical to me in that regard. I 508 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:31.680 think it's an important scene in the whole the whole business. 509 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.400 But I got a quick clip here for the uh, 510 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.640 you know, just to describe the storyline from the original 511 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.400 the original trailer, steven s field Berg. 512 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.240 Perssts back to the future Roberts the Mecher's film, Marty 513 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:46.440 leads an ordinary life. 514 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:47.759 He will must lie ever. 515 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.079 Amount of to anything in the history of Ill Valley, 516 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:55.319 you know, change and nineteen eighty five is not He 517 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.039 is a year, but Doctor Brown is about to change 518 00:24:59.079 --> 00:24:59.279 all that. 519 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.079 Can you tell me you got the time machine at. 520 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:08.400 Warriant, He's sending Mary thirty years back in time. 521 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:13.160 So I figured that was a good encapsulation of what 522 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:16.160 at least the baseline of the film is. The folks 523 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.000 that they are not familiar with it, but it is 524 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.000 still us still one of my favorite films. I'm not Claudia. 525 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.400 I get excited the Triller me too. 526 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.799 And I've watched it twice within the last twenty four 527 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:32.160 hours preparing for this and love every moment of it. 528 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.720 But I don't know what it means by Steven Spielberg 529 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:40.839 presents a robbery mechas film, but that means he was 530 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:42.079 in some way. 531 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:48.119 Tied into what the production of it, or was. 532 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.519 Produced by Amble and Entertainment, which was owned by Spielberg 533 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:53.319 with a minority as the Mechas. 534 00:25:54.160 --> 00:26:00.279 Okay, okay, Meccas hides in every film he's in period exactly. 535 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.519 Is the Meccas. Yeah, he was. He was Spielberg's protege 536 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:04.960 and Bob Gail was best friends. Was a mecchas because 537 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.680 Bob Gail, much like some of the actors in this film, 538 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.559 Bob Gaile seems to have distance himself from Hollywood, away 539 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.680 from zam Mecchas and Spielberg, just like Crispin Glover, the 540 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.680 actor who played George McFly and the female actress that 541 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.640 played Martin McFly's love interest to Jennifer who whose name 542 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:24.640 I can't think of at the moment. They both left 543 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.319 after the first one, and years later we'll get into 544 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.079 some of this in a little bit here. Years later, 545 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.240 it would be alleged by the Crazy Days and Nights 546 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.039 Entertainment lawyer Fellow that it was all revolving around kids 547 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:42.200 stuff and we're ambling entertainment and Spielberg were having a 548 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.640 bunch of children audition for the film when there wasn't 549 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.119 any children parts. So and Chrispin Glover made a bit 550 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.160 of it, an issue of it on set, and et cetera, 551 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.640 et cetera. But there's that's a whole that's a whole, 552 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:55.799 big narrative there. But yeah, that's actually. 553 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.720 That was my first note that I have is that 554 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.599 spin Glover actually wrote a letter that you can go 555 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:06.680 and read. Anybody can go and read it. He wrote 556 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.680 a letter to Steven Spielberg, and I'm assuming it was 557 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.519 after back to the future about the kids stuff and 558 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:15.279 the weirdness. 559 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.440 Well, yeah, you you got to look long and hard 560 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:19.880 for that letter because I thought you could read it. 561 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.079 Took me a meant to find out how to go 562 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.920 to the web archive. Yeah, I mean it's nice website 563 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.079 back in two thousand and five. 564 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.880 It's not easily accessible, but it is out there, and 565 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.640 he did notes. You have it in the show notes 566 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:35.880 I will. 567 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.839 I haven't put it there yet. I've been really lazy 568 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.799 about that today, but I haven't. I haven't available. I'm 569 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:43.240 gonna put it in after the show. Oh, I haven't available. 570 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.440 I've talked about that before, and so is Sean McCann 571 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:52.799 about how Crispin Glover wrote this letter to to Steven 572 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.240 Spielberg about this kind of stuff. And I really like 573 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.920 Crispin Glover. I think he's hilarious for sure. 574 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.519 I just watched it all, didn't that very I'll go ahead. 575 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.000 Oh, I was just gonna say I watched another movie 576 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.960 recently with him in it, and it just made me 577 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.640 love him even more. Like I feel like he's a 578 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.000 no nonsense kind of guy. 579 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.160 He seems that way, right. He seems that way because 580 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.599 he really diships himself from Hollywood in the whole Spielberg franchise. 581 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.000 So to that note again, and we'll go into some 582 00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.160 more that here in a minute. But the you know, 583 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.880 Crispin Glover really ute. He was responsible for a landmark 584 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.200 lawsuit for actors' rights there in Hollywood as far as 585 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.319 the Back of the Future too went because he used 586 00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.960 his likeness against against without any permission. So this that's 587 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.759 a whole nother matter as well, but again involves these producers, right, 588 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.039 involves this trio of folks, Bob Gail, you know, Roberts, Mechas, 589 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.720 Steven Spielberg, and really you can toss George Lucas into that, 590 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:46.799 even though he's not involved in this film, he is 591 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.960 kind of the third wheel there with some Mechas and Spielberg. 592 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.640 They're all kind of a trio. So interesting stuff because 593 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.920 then you're dealing with Star Wars, right with with the Spielberg, 594 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.880 Lucas and stuff, right, and then you know that's, uh, 595 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.799 that's kind of all interesting to me in the sci 596 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:07.119 fi in these sci fi respects. So the I guess 597 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:08.960 we could start off there, right some of that sci 598 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:09.559 fi stuff. 599 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:15.440 Well, let me just when you were saying that sci 600 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.079 fi stuff because that's obviously very interesting to me from 601 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.440 a metafiction perspective, is that I never really thought of 602 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.200 it before, and I don't know why. I guess I'm 603 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.519 not a true Star Wars enjoyer, which is fully true. 604 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.119 I actually don't really like Star Wars. But you can 605 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.039 actually look at Star Wars in a really interesting cabalistic 606 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.680 way and the like dualities like that, how dualistic. 607 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:37.240 It is, and how. 608 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.000 Like it's very it's very like copathic and like Tree 609 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.039 of Life at the same time. It's like showing you both, 610 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.440 but it's showing you kind of like the retard version. 611 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.960 Okay, can you explain it? Not really, I guess. 612 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.799 It's like it's like very fastile it's like, oh you 613 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.079 you get there through this, Like it's kind of syncretic, right, 614 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.759 Like he the joke is that he was reading the 615 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.680 Ea Chang as he wrote that film, right, but they 616 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.000 were obviously they were obviously reading other things. And give 617 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.640 me a break, it's not just the eaching, but you know, 618 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.799 so the reality is it has these metaghysical themes like 619 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.839 absolutely people will fight me about it, but it really does. 620 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.920 But it's not very deep. It's not like truly deep 621 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.759 it's not like actually studying like I think you can. 622 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.359 Are you talking the journey that Marty McFly goes on. 623 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.599 No, I'm sorry, I'm talking about Star Wars and just 624 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.519 how that is interesting. You were making like the thing 625 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:40.240 where it's like a parallel. 626 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.079 What's kind of similar? Right, because there's kind of a 627 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:46.440 hero theory between the two characters, right, Skywalker and Marty McFly, And. 628 00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:50.440 Marty McFly is a more interesting hero because he's a 629 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:57.200 little I agree with that, he's more American, right, He's 630 00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.839 just something much more interesting about him, much more real. 631 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.200 There's nothing really relatable about Luke Skywalker to anyone. It's like, 632 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:05.920 that's what I was trying to get out. I'm sorry, 633 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:07.319 I went on the town now you're good. 634 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:08.279 It was. 635 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.880 It's that the Luke Skywalker is kind of the messianic figure, right, 636 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:15.880 no one can ever live up to that because it's 637 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.880 too pristine from the beginning. So Marty McFly, he has 638 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.880 a girlfriend. He's probably at sadly, you know, like he's 639 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:27.160 lived his life, and it's like that's much more it's 640 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.319 just much more relatable, I. 641 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:36.920 Think, right, Right, girlfriend's not his sister, so well, that's that's. 642 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.079 A good kind of analysis and what we're getting into here, 643 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:40.799 Does anyone else have anything to share a kind in 644 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.960 that regard kind of just your overview of what you 645 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.519 saw in these things, just not the particular necessarily, but 646 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.119 you know, kind of a meta analysis of what you 647 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:48.480 looked at. 648 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.680 I definitely see a mystical journey, like a heroes journey. 649 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.440 I'm seeing, you know, with the time travel, a lot 650 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.880 of NASA like stuff. Their space stuff's gonna pop in 651 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:03.960 big time with the Dad and the book. I don't 652 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:05.799 know if you guys saw when he comes back, but 653 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.519 when he comes back and everything changes the books about 654 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:13.160 space and how he met his wife, it's like space 655 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.279 lovers or something. And I'm seeing like divine, a lot 656 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:22.759 of divine you know, intervention. So yeah, I don't want. 657 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:22.759 To go. 658 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.200 I got that's you're definitely reading my mind there, because 659 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.799 I got some massive stuff on deck for us here 660 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.960 on the sci fi background of this film. 661 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.799 I put down a lot of like about the predictive 662 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:41.720 programming type stuff that they snuck in there, yeah for sure, 663 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.119 And I have like a few notes on that, and 664 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:51.000 then I have a few notes of like how how 665 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:57.920 they chose specific times and even stuff in the background 666 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:02.400 to me looked a little bit on purpose, so sure, 667 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.400 But I did want to say they took a lot 668 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.359 of time to make sure that this movie was perfect, 669 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.839 and everything was very much on purpose. And something a 670 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.880 lot of people don't know is that another actor besides 671 00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.519 Michael J. Fox filmed half. 672 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.160 Of this movie and. 673 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.920 Was on the way to finishing the movie before they 674 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.960 said you chuck Dicks, we hate you, fuck off and 675 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.039 they recasted him with Michael J. 676 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:33.440 Fox. 677 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:35.839 An you talking about Eric Stoltz? 678 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:45.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know, Yeah, yeah, another 679 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.079 big eighties movie, some kind of wonderful. I don't know 680 00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.480 if you guys watched that, but he's he's the main 681 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.519 guy in some kind of wonderful And he was supposed 682 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:56.480 to be Marty McFly. 683 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.200 This one was masked, right. 684 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.839 Yes, mask line on that show. Yes, yes, Rocky mask. 685 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.159 Yeah, so he was supposed to be Marty McFly. He 686 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.800 got like halfway through making the movie before they told 687 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.079 him he sucked Dix and got rid of him and 688 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:16.840 recasted him with Michael J. 689 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:17.239 Fox. 690 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.480 But like, everything they did was very intentional, It was 691 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:21.519 very on purpose. 692 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.480 You sure was the suckingd deck thing. He looks a 693 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.079 little along in the face to me, maybe that's why 694 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:26.800 they recast him. 695 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.559 But I only say that to say every move that 696 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.719 they made was very purposeful and they had to get 697 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.599 it right, they had to make it perfect. 698 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.800 So I think that's also really interesting. 699 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.519 Well I'd like to put a pin in that note 700 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.320 that were real quick, Julia and have you what are 701 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.800 you what are your thoughts on this? You're talking about 702 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.320 predictive programming they did. Now it's technically it's number two. 703 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.360 You see this really manifested in in the film series 704 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.960 the trilogy. But Beth was written on Donald Trump future 705 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.159 Biff Oh right, yeah, yeah. 706 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.159 I mean a lot of that comes in with the 707 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.039 second movie because that going back to the past is 708 00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.519 but they still ended up putting a lot of stuff 709 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.920 in the first one. But you know, there was a 710 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.400 lot in Back to the Future too that just screams 711 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.159 like oh fuck yeah and. 712 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.320 Same a number three. But that begs the question of 713 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.679 what is time? When did all these things happen? Because 714 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.880 you know the things, did these things always happen? Did 715 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.440 Marty's parents only meet because he went back in time? 716 00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.440 You know what I mean? Shame or meet it? 717 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.519 In a sequel, the chicken thing. 718 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:33.440 It's the chicken or the thing. 719 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.719 Bill Clinton or the blue dress exactly. 720 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.400 There's actually in that movie if you pay attention to it, 721 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.679 actually he's telling you that this has already happened already 722 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.360 I have stuff in there. He's actually telling you that 723 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:45.440 it's already changed. 724 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.559 Like there, you know, I like where you're at, Nick On, 725 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.840 That is Marty only friends with Doc Brown because he 726 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.159 went back in the past and Doc Brown knew who 727 00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.400 he was. Or how the fuck did Marty become friends 728 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.400 with the disc grace nuclear physicist while he's in high 729 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.719 school the tourist. 730 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.039 Oh, oh, I'm glad you brought that. I'm glad you 731 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.000 brought that up. Am I cutting out here? Can you 732 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:10.400 all hear me? 733 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:11.480 No, you can hear you. 734 00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:11.960 You're good. 735 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:14.960 I got some bad storms that keeps cutting out. No, 736 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.639 that's a great point, Julia, because that physicist that you know, 737 00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.840 renowned kind of disgraced physicists and the high school student 738 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.840 being friends. I think that's a nod to Warner von 739 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.840 Braun and Jack Parsons, who had a pen pal and 740 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.280 phone call relationship in the nineteen twenties. As Parsons was 741 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:32.480 a teenager. 742 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.960 So I shouldn't have said this before, but I wrote 743 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.639 down Personian as my primary talking point for the entire 744 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.199 face because exactly I didn't know that factory. So thank 745 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.760 you JJ. Obviously rely yes, sir, those but it makes 746 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.159 perfect sense, right because that's exactly what it is. And 747 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.159 you can even say in like a hero's journey, like 748 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.800 he was saying, he is like the Gondolf figure. He is, 749 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.920 you know, the through the teacher the ones take him 750 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.800 under the wing. And I also think it's really interesting 751 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.079 about the time paradox because it's something like we discussed 752 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.280 on the Carl what episodes, like what kind of universe 753 00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.679 do you believe in, like if there's a closed universe 754 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.760 or a fixed universe. So I'm going off when when 755 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.159 Nick sent me in notewise, but in my this is 756 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.519 all I also agree with it is. I actually think 757 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.039 it's more of an infinity universe kind of world, where 758 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.840 like the connections are kind of infinitely possible, so it 759 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.280 doesn't really it's sort of like when we see them together, 760 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.320 it doesn't really matter. It's just like the universe's causal 761 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.880 that way, like everything that they've done up to this 762 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.239 point in time, they only exist now. 763 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:49.440 I totally agree with you, and I think so does 764 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:50.360 doctor mct brown. 765 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:52.000 Scott. 766 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:54.320 Oh, sorry, go ahead. 767 00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.679 The uh so, now, I like, I like the ideas 768 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.880 that you and Nicker both point out here with these times, 769 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.679 these time these time loops, the what is time and when? When? 770 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.840 When do these things happen? And what is really cause 771 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:11.559 and effect there? But you know, before we get it, yeah, 772 00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:12.599 is it real? 773 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.039 Because the dream world? 774 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.559 Okay, So when he enters in from the past and 775 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.519 he goes to town, the song that's playing is Mister Sandman, 776 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:20.840 and so. 777 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.400 I heard, I've heard that song, very familiar with That's 778 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.000 the first time ever heard this song was this film? 779 00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.400 Right, And then the mom walks up at the same time, 780 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.039 and she's like, oh my gosh, she's such a dream. 781 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.320 And he's meanwhile saying, this is a nightmare. This is 782 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.360 a nightmare, and this is all happening at the same time. 783 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.280 So I'm like, is this even reality? 784 00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.559 You're employing a kind of a like a kind of 785 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.880 a meta analysis of a Wizard of Oz effect to 786 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:47.360 the whole matter. 787 00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.320 Very very that part, yeah, just that part right there 788 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.480 definitely makes you go, Okay, is this real? 789 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.239 Is it a dream? Did he have a dream. 790 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.880 I don't know, you know, sure, Nick, what was it? 791 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.039 What was kind of your meta analysis besides some of 792 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:03.840 these time things we're pointing out there? Or do you 793 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.400 have any other comments on that? 794 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.119 Well, I can tell you, like. 795 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.320 I know you have a deep analysis of these things. 796 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.119 I was to say, do you have an like when 797 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:14.840 you when you when you were approaching that, was there 798 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.079 something like overall besides maybe it was the Masonic stuff, 799 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.199 like maybe was the time stuff? What was what was 800 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.159 jumping out to you specifically. 801 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.119 The hero's journey? Uh, especially with like you know time 802 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.039 and the electricity, uh, you know, on the clock all 803 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:30.920 that stuff. 804 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.719 And uh just big into the lightning aspects. I figured 805 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.840 that was gonna hit him with you in some regard. 806 00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.400 For sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely thought 807 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.440 it was more of like possibly like you know, crossing 808 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.360 the abyss or showing the hero's journey to having that experience. 809 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.960 And I did eventually at one point started catching a 810 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.519 little tons of my opinion, tons and tons of Masonic stuff. 811 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:53.599 So that's kind of where I'm going there you go, 812 00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.719 I'll get into my stuff. But I mean there's a 813 00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.000 lot of a lot. I mean I even ran Jamatia 814 00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.039 and stuff. I mean, you still have. 815 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:03.800 Now you took it in depth study. I'm looking forward 816 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:05.480 to get into some of those notes. So I appreciate 817 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.679 everyone's kind of mad at analysis there. And as I 818 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.639 was looking at it, I saw a little bit of 819 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.800 kind of everything. What y'all are saying is, you know 820 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.320 a lot of my focus. I think when I was 821 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.599 watching it again yesterday, was looking back seeing all this, 822 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.360 you know, I guess I was looking at through more 823 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.199 of a parapolitical lens. You know, I could see a 824 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.119 lot of the politics so that they were written into 825 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.079 the film, like hardcore propaganda, like against the Libyans that 826 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.000 was at a peak time when you know, the the 827 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.000 Libyan disaster in America was, you know, they were they 828 00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:37.519 were hyping that up. And I got I got some 829 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.920 stuff on that here later for the parapolitics section of 830 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:43.199 our discussion this evening. But besides that, you know this 831 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.760 predictive programming aspect I suppose with and to a certain 832 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.880 degree just the nature of time, these things wrap up 833 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.199 on this one subject of this Donald Trump matter, and 834 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.719 is that being the Biff Tannic character, right, because you know, 835 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.400 it's it's not just that he's the Biff Tanning character. Right. 836 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.320 He he ends up buying the property from from John DeLorean, 837 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.199 the guy who makes the Delirium vehicle that's used in 838 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:11.079 the film. Trump buys that Bedminster, New Jersey property, and 839 00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.639 that is where he primarily resides from the months of 840 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.920 I believe May through through August. That's his primary residence 841 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.960 there in Bedminster, New Jersey. So that's the other that. 842 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.400 Oh yeah, how weird is that? 843 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:23.719 Right? 844 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.559 There was actually I wish I would have saved it now, 845 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.000 but there was a lot of Trump and Elon stuff 846 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:33.119 popping up in Jamatria. But it's just like it wasn't 847 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.360 my opinion for what I was looking for. It wasn't 848 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.519 going along with that, because then I started one thing 849 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.440 I did together, I'm sorry, mating it in and out 850 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.119 something I found running Jamatria. Tons of Russian connections, stuff 851 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.239 with Russia, and even with the pin he's wearing on 852 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.280 his jacket goes back to a Russian thing. So I 853 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:51.119 might actually be on purpose. 854 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.039 I'm sure it is. I think a lot of these 855 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:56.679 things in this film are very well plot in and 856 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.159 to that point as well, as Julia was saying, so like, 857 00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:01.320 that's thing I appreciate about that. I don't like a 858 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:02.960 lot of sci fi films. I mean, I do like 859 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:04.760 Star Wars, but I don't I don't do Star Trek 860 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.679 and a lot of other sci fi stuff. And it's 861 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.599 largely because of the special effects. You're into all the 862 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:10.159 space stuff. 863 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:11.760 I love it all. 864 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.360 Did you see that hat tip? Speaking of space, did 865 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.639 you see the hat tip to Kubrick? 866 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:19.639 No? 867 00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:20.400 I didn't you. 868 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.519 Yeah, So there's there's a little hat tip to Cubrick 869 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.039 in there when they have the original. 870 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.480 The amplifier at the very beginning of the movie, he 871 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:35.440 goes to plug in and there's a little tiny tag 872 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:39.400 on it and it says c RM one fourteen on 873 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.360 the amplifier, which is a total nod from one of 874 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.639 his destroyed messages decoded in the nineteen sixty four Doctor 875 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.679 Strand Love and Jupiter Explorer and Space Odyssey. 876 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.599 So I found that on my own. 877 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.760 I didn't. Yeah, I just looked that up. 878 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.679 To that, to that note of all the science fiction 879 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.239 of this film, and like that that. I think everything 880 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.119 is well plotted out in this film, like that is 881 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.039 you know that? To that note, they really focus on 882 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.000 those things. There's not a lot of special effects scenes, 883 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.960 most of the special effects scenes you've seen in this film, 884 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.960 or the lightning scenes, they really dedicated a lot of 885 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.280 times that lightning very pop out. They want to make 886 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:20.920 a pop for you. 887 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.760 Right, more like when when the DeLorean takes off and 888 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.320 there's the two little streaks of fire and stuff like that. 889 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:29.519 That's about it. 890 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:31.800 But I was gonna say, everything. 891 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.280 Else is very well plotted out, and I think there's 892 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.840 really they really only shot like about three or four 893 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.199 like less than four dozen. I think it was about 894 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.920 thirty five different scenes. This film is very you know, 895 00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.079 very it's not a very complex shot film, but it's 896 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.639 a great storyline. It's very It really grasps your attention 897 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.960 throughout the whole film. Even when I watched it yesterday, 898 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.719 I was still very much involved in watching the film 899 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.280 and not like you know, doing other things while you 900 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.159 know what I mean, And I don't know. I think 901 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:59.639 that speaks again to this the esoteric secrets they're embedded 902 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.920 in the film as it really grabs your subconscious but 903 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:05.920 and and on that nature of subconscious and time, like 904 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.039 when when I when when there's a really surface way 905 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.159 to look at the Donald Trump situation, But again I 906 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:12.800 look at it through like what is time? And like 907 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.280 did the writers of this film did they did? 908 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:15.639 You know? 909 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.880 There's a concept of that I like to consider of 910 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:21.239 a guy by the name J. W. Dunn about the 911 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.920 dream state. As you know, we're talking about the dream 912 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.400 states being better in this film in the Nature of Time, 913 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.559 and the dream state is your subconscious can kind of 914 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.920 remember the future in a sense whereas it doesn't operate 915 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.559 in a linear timeline like we do in in uh 916 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.440 in our in our waken state, and you know, then 917 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.239 that way you can almost remember the future. This would 918 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.039 explain some deje vou elements, but also would explain incidents 919 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.159 of recognition. And JW. Dunn wrote a pamphlet on this 920 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.000 back in the nineteen twenties called an Experiment in Time, 921 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.559 and it was one of the most fascinating things I've 922 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:58.199 ever read. So really really big question. Are they just 923 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.119 coming up with this idea from something that they possibly 924 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.199 got into a dream state, you know, that's where the 925 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.920 idea came from. And it's really they're just seeing something 926 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.519 in the future in their dream state, and they're just 927 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.280 in their current time. They're just you know, transcribing a 928 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.039 matter where it looks very similar rights you know, they 929 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.079 do predict a lot of things relative to Donald Trump. 930 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.960 Right, go ahead, jen No, I just wanted to say 931 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.920 that I totally agree with that writer that you're citing, JJ, 932 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.239 because it's very interesting because it actually correlates really well 933 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.800 the Buddhism. Time is of the mind. Time is of 934 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:34.679 the nine expressed in nine. So exactly what you're saying, 935 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:40.360 it's like the the you are the chronopoetic master, you 936 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:43.199 are the time king of your own timeline kind of thing. 937 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.239 So there's something really interesting about that. And then also 938 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.360 you were saying, like the dreaming state, Well what if 939 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.079 I told you, like the the dreaming mind is the 940 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.840 color of turquoise, but the waking mind is the color 941 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:58.679 of lapis. So when you were saying, like what is 942 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.559 the color of light, lightning is actually considered to be 943 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.360 both of those things, because it's also clear, very. 944 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.320 Scientific, I know. And to your point, his address when 945 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.559 he makes it back home to Hill Valley, which is 946 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.159 an oxymoron by them, you can't hill Valley, okay, whatever, 947 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.960 but his address is nine three zero three, and so 948 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.679 three times three is nine or we have thirty three 949 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:26.800 right there too. 950 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.519 So I found that really interesting. That was on the house. 951 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.000 So nine three zero three, And that's exactly what you're saying. Jin, 952 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:35.679 It's it's all nine. 953 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.960 It's the nine and then three zero three three times 954 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.760 three is nine or thirty three? 955 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:42.480 Would you say the nine zero three? 956 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.960 Well, would you say that was on his house? That's 957 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.679 his address when he's coming up? 958 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:47.800 M hm. 959 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.039 And so that was really interesting. 960 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.159 And if we move past him coming home to his house, 961 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.199 I have something to say about that, but I don't 962 00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:56.000 know if we're there yet. 963 00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:58.760 So yeah, we can jump into that here shortly when 964 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.519 we go through the film and the characters in a minute. 965 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.599 But no, I well, I got I just got lost 966 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.400 in like three different things at the same time. Again, 967 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.559 the uh, the uh? Where was I? I forget where 968 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.920 I was at? Now I apologize there, what's let's uh, 969 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.639 I guess let's jump Have any any other comments on 970 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:20.760 time or some of these other concepts before we jump 971 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:21.559 into the back. 972 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:28.199 I had one thing that I noticed to do with 973 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.840 the time thing that I wanted to say, or. 974 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.639 Dream stuff, because I think that's very interesting too that 975 00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:33.239 Hotty brought up. 976 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.039 I didn't I didn't get I didn't put anything down 977 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.480 about the dream stuff because I was so fixated on 978 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.360 this other aspect. But at the very beginning of the movie, 979 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.440 when it's showing all the clocks and there's like a 980 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.280 million clocks in Doc Brown's house, even down to like 981 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.559 one of the clocks is like a guy hanging off 982 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.360 of a clock tower, like everything in every little scene, 983 00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:00.400 every you know, it's it's like it's so on purpose 984 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.159 to predict what's gonna come later in the film, but 985 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.400 also what's to come later in like reality too. 986 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.719 And I'm I'm sure you know where I'm going with. 987 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:17.440 That, but is there any difference? And then I did 988 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:18.079 do the. 989 00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.400 Name Marty and I did the name Emmitt to see 990 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:29.360 what they mean. And so Marty means warlike or of Mars, 991 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.480 and it refers to the Roman god of war, Mars. 992 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:40.679 And then Emmitt, doctor Emmett Brown, his name means universal 993 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.000 or truth. So both I think both of those names 994 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.039 are very interesting for the two main characters there. 995 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.400 Oh yeah, well, and Jennifer means so if we're gonna 996 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.360 do characters, I do have something a couple of things, 997 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.760 but I can bring it back in later. 998 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.119 For the time you mentioned Hill Valley is an oxymoron. 999 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.360 That's where I got stuck there a moment ago. That 1000 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.360 is a good point, Like there's got to be some 1001 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.480 meaning to that. Why are they using such an obscure name? Then, right, so. 1002 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.239 I'll go back I'll go backward, Sergeant. 1003 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.480 I'll just say really quickly that I think that when 1004 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:17.840 they're talking about this time part, when they're not in reality, 1005 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.920 the time is running on the clock, but when they're 1006 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.280 in reality, the time is fixed because the clock is broken. 1007 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.079 So we have to look at this like Doc Brown 1008 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:33.800 is almost like Zeus, you know, and they've got you know, 1009 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.239 Poseidon there and all that. But I'll do that when 1010 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.039 we get into characters. But what I'm saying is is 1011 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:44.559 also you've got like the flux capacitor, which is chaos, right, 1012 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:45.599 it's the why. 1013 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.519 Yes, And so when they're using it and they're in wherever. 1014 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.280 They've traveled to, like whether it's past their future, whatever it's, 1015 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:58.840 it's again chaotic because it's not in sync with reality. 1016 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.320 That's all I was going to say say on the 1017 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.960 timing part. But but I'm weird. 1018 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.159 No, that was great. That was really great, legit. 1019 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:09.199 I'm sorry, Jenny. 1020 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:13.079 No, the Marty. The Marty thing was really interesting because 1021 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.280 then you'd have to say he's a governratic hero, right, 1022 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.559 Like he's coming from Mars, he's coming from Govera. But 1023 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.159 he has to travel on the lightning path. So that's 1024 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.119 something that Lighty said that was really interesting about Hill Valley. 1025 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:27.639 And I think I know why you got suck on 1026 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:28.880 it because it is a paradox. 1027 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:29.199 JJ. 1028 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.960 It doesn't make I never really considered it, but it 1029 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:33.400 makes no sense until you just said. I was to 1030 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:34.000 wait a second. 1031 00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.559 But it's a cabalistic paradox that's resolved in the center 1032 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.880 the hidden pillar. 1033 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.360 It's all about a time paradox, right, They're all they're saying, Oh, 1034 00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.039 that's a paradox, and this is a paradox, and yeah. 1035 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.519 Well he and he lives in Lions Estate and you 1036 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.599 see this Lion's estate with the two pillars, but you 1037 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:58.519 go in between the lions Gate and then what does 1038 00:50:58.599 --> 00:50:59.000 that do? 1039 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.199 You know what we know about Lions Gate? 1040 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:02.559 Right? 1041 00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:05.639 And with eighty eight did that eighty eight miles per 1042 00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.760 hour charge the lions Gate? And with double infinity where 1043 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:10.679 it's not even real. 1044 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.920 You know what I'm saying, I have something on the 1045 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.800 Lions if I if we're getting into that, I have 1046 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:19.559 something about the Lions. Can I should I save it? 1047 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.480 Can we table that for a moment we started getting 1048 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.119 into the film, will discuss the settings a little bit 1049 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:26.599 like that, because I want to do a quick background 1050 00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.880 signed to these names. Y'all were just saying, do a 1051 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.559 quick background the sci fi and the predictive programming aspect 1052 00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:37.760 of that, real quick with Donald Trump, that is, and 1053 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.039 then we'll get into the entire film here after that. 1054 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:41.719 If youn't be all, don't mind bearing with me here 1055 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.119 for a moment, because we already brought some of these names. 1056 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.000 Someone to kind of jump into this point real quick, 1057 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:48.119 and it goes right to the sci fi stuff. So 1058 00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:50.480 we were talking about how the meaning of these names 1059 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.119 and some of the background there well, jumping ahead to 1060 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:54.960 back to the future. Three we learned we learned this 1061 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:56.199 about Doc Brown. 1062 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.800 Maybe it was maybe they wasn't yours. 1063 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:02.239 That could have been another A Brown Back. 1064 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.679 In eighteen eighty five relatives here back then. The brothers 1065 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.400 didn't come to the Hill Valleand until nineteen o eight, 1066 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:08.960 and then they were the von Brons. 1067 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:10.519 I want to change our name. 1068 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:20.039 During the First World War, von Braun, like Werner, how 1069 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:20.960 can you say? 1070 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:22.159 How can you say? 1071 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.440 The first and the third one aren't the best when 1072 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.480 they put ship like that in the third one. 1073 00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.400 Oh, I mean it's good, won't get me wrong. I 1074 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.239 enjoy these things. There's there's nuggets of information all around 1075 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:36.760 there and they even have some Meelamites in the third one. 1076 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.519 Right with Flea, he's a member of the Red How 1077 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:38.840 do you look? 1078 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:39.199 Right? 1079 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.400 I wouldn't totally make sense because like you can consider, 1080 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.320 like now, I call it nasau space. Kabala is how 1081 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:48.840 they referred to it before, but it's the way they 1082 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.119 put it because for the way they teach the planets 1083 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.079 is actually Cabala. You could understand it like that, so 1084 00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.280 the first introduction to what people think of, but it's 1085 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.960 actually the inverse because it's the physical densities, so it's 1086 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.280 actually not Cabala. But you could say that it's the 1087 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:10.280 first way, the first layer that people understand. So it 1088 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.360 would make sense if they're doing all these von Braun references, 1089 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:17.360 because obviously that's what he was also talking about by. 1090 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.360 The way he ties in, right, it just ties into 1091 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.480 the whole sci fi background, and these rockets and nasts 1092 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.639 are right with with a reference like that, right. 1093 00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:30.800 Absolutely, Oh, I said, Von Broun just was definitely in 1094 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:32.719 the good with the Marmons. 1095 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:36.159 He made a theological film with them that nobody else 1096 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:41.079 was allowed in, only Von Braun. Yeah, so it was weird. 1097 00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:45.559 I think that's very interesting, you know. And what we 1098 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.639 know about Parsons and his mother, well we'll save that 1099 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:49.559 for later, but. 1100 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.880 Yeah, Parsons and about his Parsons, right, because he's just 1101 00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.000 such an interesting character with his whole background, right. 1102 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.000 Absolutely, So that guy there for re. 1103 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:04.280 Ackerman meet for he he's the fellow that I used 1104 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.519 as a center point in this narrative of Cocaine Bob 1105 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:11.400 meets Marvel Comics my operation GCD Live last week. Fory 1106 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.599 Ackerman is the guy mister science fiction. He's the guy 1107 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:18.559 who coins the term sci fi. Right, He's a literary 1108 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.440 agent for all these folks. He knew Parsons, he knew Hubbard, 1109 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:24.199 he was an oto guy at Parsons Lodge. Apparently, he 1110 00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.400 was an early scientologist. He knew all the Marvel stuff. 1111 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.000 He knew Cocaine Bob of course, well with all these characters, 1112 00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.519 and that's Sane Lee of Marvel Comics, who was a 1113 00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.239 good friend of fory Ackerman as well. So fory Ackerman, 1114 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.239 for a quick rehash on that he's a legendary figure 1115 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.519 in Hollywood. I decided to muppetize him like like anyone 1116 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:45.440 else these days, because he actually is a muppet two 1117 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.599 just this guy in general, he's he's a legendary dude. 1118 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.199 Like I said, sci fi stuff, literary agent for every 1119 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.159 sci fi writer you can think of, Isaac Asimov, Bradbury, Hubbard, 1120 00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:58.519 you know all these guys. Arthur C. Clark, he ran 1121 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.760 their little sci fi club and lost Angelus. He was 1122 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.280 there the head of that again, big time of cultists, 1123 00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.840 ran the thing called monsters and magazines a monstras a 1124 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.599 famous monsters magazine. And the actual picture of him is 1125 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.679 not nearly as funny as that. But if you look 1126 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.760 at kind of the onset of these stories of where 1127 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:20.840 these film like Back to the Future comes from, it 1128 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.639 goes back to FORI, so the idea, this is Wikipedia, 1129 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.599 the source of all information on the interwebs. It's a 1130 00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.360 good jumping off point. Times. I do like to see 1131 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.679 what the normative view on subjects are too. But here's 1132 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:37.440 a good quote here regarding time travel and fiction article here, 1133 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.079 and like I said, it goes to fory Ackerman. So 1134 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.159 fory Ackerman noted in his nineteen seventy three anthology of 1135 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.199 the Best Fiction of the Year that the theme of 1136 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:51.800 getting hold of Tomorrow's newspaper is a recurrent one, you know, 1137 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:56.440 in regards to science fiction and these matters of time travel. Right, 1138 00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.880 So this is the first, to my understanding, this is 1139 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.079 the first time travel story in fiction. HG. Will's Time 1140 00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.400 Machine not really the same thing we're talking about here, 1141 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.280 but this is the early onset of kind of the subject, right, 1142 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.119 Is that you all agree on that? Is there an 1143 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:16.960 earlier piece that I'll remember, Not that I can think of, Yeah, 1144 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.320 because that's eighteen ninety five, and shortly thereafter we see 1145 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.000 things it's not really time travel, but we see this 1146 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.320 story by Mark Twain at Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, 1147 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.119 And I saw a comment earlier on in the chat 1148 00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:30.960 before I lost all side of what was going on 1149 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.719 there regarding time slips. This is a time slip, right. 1150 00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.360 We kind of talked about time slips recently on the 1151 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:37.440 Cult Rejects as well. 1152 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:43.119 Right, Nick, Yes, sir, Yeah, that was with Ride right, Yeah, 1153 00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:44.000 that was It's. 1154 00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:46.599 Kind of like it's time travel and you don't have 1155 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:48.960 a DeLorean, right, But I mean it's it's the same 1156 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:49.840 concept though, right. 1157 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:51.000 Yeah, pretty much. 1158 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:57.559 Well, y'all familiar with the story, I'm not. 1159 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.639 I'm not man i am, but but I think there 1160 00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:04.239 is something interesting that you're picking up on JJ is 1161 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.679 that there is a difference in a way. But the 1162 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:09.760 because the DeLorean is the heck a lot, So it's 1163 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:11.519 like the vehicle. Like I talked a lot about this 1164 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.800 on our episode. It's like the you know, the Mormons 1165 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.639 have this idea. They're more into the palace architecture, the 1166 00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:20.920 temple architecture. They're into bringing things back down into the 1167 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.519 diamonds and nets. That's what they're all about, right, Like 1168 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.440 Mormon money magic. Well that's Mormon money magic, yes, sir. 1169 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:31.760 But the this actually, and I even texted Nick this 1170 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.559 as I said, yeah, absolutely, I agree with you. This 1171 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:39.760 is like a hode maxing like double dragon because the Chinese, interestingly, 1172 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.639 eight is a dragon number, so it's like eighty eight 1173 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:43.599 double dragons. 1174 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:44.719 Let's fucking go like. 1175 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.639 That's like the yep, maybe, yep, I think that has 1176 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.119 a do it even parts of your brain too, I'm 1177 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:52.960 not gonna take it that far. 1178 00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.119 Well, and did you think it was weird at the 1179 00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.679 at the mall parking lot before they're taking off that 1180 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.360 that you see the visual of JC so like Jesus 1181 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.920 Christ and then Penny like Copper. 1182 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.559 And that was that stood out to me so much, 1183 00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.039 and I mean I was like, is this charging? 1184 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:11.800 Yeah? 1185 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.280 Is this like charging? This situation? And then the guns 1186 00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.199 come with iron their shoes. 1187 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.079 Oh, I'm glad you said that. I got that clip 1188 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.280 on deck here. Yeah, yeah, director predictive programming because that 1189 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.000 was the Libyans, right, that was the Libyans assaulting them 1190 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:27.320 in the parking lot. And that was a great time 1191 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.760 where will Mark Adolphie was was the bin Laden of 1192 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.159 that era, right, that was the time. 1193 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:39.039 Doc is wearing the biohazard sign behind on his jumper. 1194 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:41.920 And that can also be the school on Crossbones. 1195 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:46.119 So is he Oh that's you know, I mean, do 1196 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.280 they want to scare everybody about the Libyans and nuclear 1197 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:49.920 war at the time? Right, this was the era of 1198 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:53.440 the mid eighties, right, it was a nuclear scare terrorism 1199 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:55.679 of the Olypyans. And while we're on that note, I 1200 00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:56.920 got a clip here force. 1201 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.639 Oh my god, they found me. 1202 00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.079 I don't know how they found me, look hard on it. 1203 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:09.119 Whoo whoo. 1204 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:10.400 What do you think? 1205 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.400 It was a Livian's they did it. And now I 1206 00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:21.960 know I wasn't really old enough to really understand what's 1207 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.000 going on. I do remember kind of the whole Avian 1208 00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:28.599 scare there around that time, right in the media on 1209 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.719 it again. It was a very bit load uh situation, 1210 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:33.880 but I don't want to I got a different clip 1211 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:35.480 to kind of explain that to folks real quick, to 1212 00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.119 emphasize that point from comedian Jim Brewer. 1213 00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:43.360 All Right, and I took his I took his newspaper. 1214 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.679 It was a newspaper on his little desk. I'm like, yeah, right, 1215 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.800 he took his newspaper and show him. Now a little 1216 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:50.639 part of history. 1217 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:57.159 At that time, America was in a serious situation with Libya. 1218 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.480 Huge before been Aladdin. 1219 01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:07.760 There is Muma Koduffy and he was huge in news 1220 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:15.760 because he shot six missiles at a US plane he missed, 1221 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:21.119 and then the next. 1222 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:25.880 Day we bombed his tent. That's what happened, and it 1223 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.840 was huge news. It was right on. If you when 1224 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.440 you went home, you only had four channels watching TV. 1225 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:32.800 It was before it was even remote. 1226 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.519 It's just your father, go hey Derney and channel four. 1227 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:37.239 And you have to get up. 1228 01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:46.519 And so everything was next on the news. Mumah Kadaffi's America, 1229 01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:47.440 Muma Kadaffi. 1230 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.159 Mumah Kadaffi shoes six missiles, Muma Kodofi. 1231 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:53.360 I think we get the point there. 1232 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.480 So that's what the whole Libya thing was about. 1233 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.320 Yeah, so that was the height of that actual anyone 1234 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.440 he's talking about. So Jim Burger is telling a story 1235 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.760 there on one of those Comedy Central. This is not happening, 1236 01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.119 I think. And he actually is talking about working at 1237 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.039 that Valley Spree mall Nicknasse I'm talking about and out 1238 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:11.800 Long Island and he was working at the Seers. He 1239 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:13.880 was playing a prank on a fellow coworker of this 1240 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:15.840 old dude who was giving him shit as a teenager, 1241 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.199 and he called a dude, you know, across to a 1242 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.320 different department, was just telling him that was he was 1243 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.239 claiming to be Mo Mar Godolphie on the phone and 1244 01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.480 he's going to bomb the mall there or drop six 1245 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.760 missiles on the mall, because that's what all the media 1246 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:30.719 kept saying, six missiles, six missiles. So they they ended 1247 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.079 up evacuating the whole mall and called the FBI. And 1248 01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:36.760 it's a funny story, but yeah, it's that was Goodelphia 1249 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:44.119 era of the eighties. I never knew that it's some yeah, 1250 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.800 some wild stuff, right that that story cracks me up there. 1251 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.360 That's unfortunately circumstances finding in playing a prank and suddenly 1252 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.400 the FBI gets called, you know, because some idiot can't 1253 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:56.840 realize that it was a prank. He actually thinks, momar 1254 01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.199 cud Off, he's calling the paint department at Sears and 1255 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:07.000 telling him he's it's ridiculous. So, yeah, back to this, 1256 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:09.960 these matters of the backstory of kind of how how 1257 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.000 Back to the Future came to be through these matters 1258 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.400 of science fiction and whatnot. So you see the reference 1259 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.079 Jules Verne a lot in the film, and in fact, 1260 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.119 I believe he later names his kids Jewels and vern 1261 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.079 right and number three Doc Brown. 1262 01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:29.679 That is, yes, I know he named this dog Einstein, 1263 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.599 and you want to talk about Mason's. 1264 01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:35.880 And the other one was Copernicus, right, the other dog 1265 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:39.800 was Copernicus, right, yes, yes, So it's a lot of 1266 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:43.039 space stuff, science stuff, and then Jules and vern is 1267 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.840 reference to Jules Verna. Obviously he didn't do any time 1268 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.760 travel stuff, you know, around the world. Eighty days twenty 1269 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:49.920 thousand leagues under the sea. 1270 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.079 He did Journey to the Center of the Earth, which 1271 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.119 I think is like a real fucking thing. 1272 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:57.599 That's the that's the one, that's the big one. I 1273 01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.199 was missing this one. He's not as known for, but 1274 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:01.960 thank you Julia for that when I was stuck there 1275 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.679 on the other title, from the Earth to the Moon. 1276 01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:06.559 So this is a this is an idea of this 1277 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:07.800 is one of the early I think this is the 1278 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.800 earliest idea of rockets, right, and even talking about a 1279 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:12.880 moon landing and a projectile that looks a lot like 1280 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.000 what Warner von Braun would develop as a rocket, this 1281 01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:20.800 obelisk looking object, right, see what I'm saying here on 1282 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.440 the cover, right, and it is read in eighteen sixty five, 1283 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:27.679 and it's talking about he wrote a sequel to it 1284 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:29.639 around the Moon, but it's talking about landing with a 1285 01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:31.880 projectile with a goal of landing on the Moon. So 1286 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.360 you know, I think that's interesting because again we go 1287 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.679 back to that von Braun reference. Right now, we got 1288 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:41.880 the earliest version. So everything I covered that in the 1289 01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.440 last show I did last week on this Telemite science 1290 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:48.159 or fan fiction ideas of Marvel and DC Comics, because 1291 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.480 all of these ideas of science and space that we 1292 01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:54.400 know from revolving around rocketry and space travel, revolves around 1293 01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.119 that they're written in fiction first by writers who was 1294 01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.559 literary agent was for Reakermen and who for Reackerman was 1295 01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.400 the head of that sci fi writers club in which 1296 01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.320 all of these writers were also a part of. So 1297 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:11.000 and they also were all apparently involved, by forty Ackerman's 1298 01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.159 own admission, they were all involved in first the OTO 1299 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.920 and then later scientology. And four he stuck around in 1300 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.440 scientology for a while. He didn't leave until the late 1301 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:24.280 early fifties, so he was seemed pretty dedicated in these matters. 1302 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.719 But you know, we learn about these ideas of space 1303 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:29.119 first through these through these matters of science fiction, and 1304 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:34.400 then later supposedly you know, supposedly science right, and then 1305 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:36.840 it really impacts a lot of stuff. I don't want 1306 01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:38.360 to go too far here, but it really impacts a 1307 01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.280 lot of stuff just outside of what we're thinking of 1308 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.320 regarding occultism or modern day with these science fiction notions. 1309 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.039 So I learned this from this book Operation Mind Control 1310 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.719 from Walter bow Art. Great book. Highly recommend if anyone 1311 01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:55.920 folks in the interwebs want anything to do with matters 1312 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.920 of mind control operations, not just the mk ulture style experimentals. 1313 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:03.679 Boart writes a whole book in nineteen seventy circus seventy 1314 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:07.280 eight describing how it's operational. So but he puts here 1315 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:11.320 in this book how Michael Akino Old Temple sat. Michael 1316 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:16.159 Akino wrote three different Star Wars fan fiction and used 1317 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.000 to He was reported as having been identified standing outside 1318 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:24.079 the gate at Skywalker Ranch forcing copies of these manuscripts 1319 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.719 upon people who employed by George Lucas, friends with Zemachus 1320 01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:33.239 and and Spielberg. Since Lucas does not received on solicited manuscripts, 1321 01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:37.679 the manuscripts were returned unopened upon several occasions. One was 1322 01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:43.519 sub subsequently published in a monster magazine. I'll uh let 1323 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.320 you know which Monster magazine that was. That was the 1324 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:52.960 one of achron Razy. Yeah, but you know back around, 1325 01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:54.480 are you. 1326 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.320 Familiar with Fritz Springmeier at all? He wrote a lot 1327 01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:02.679 of stuff about you know, underground programs and stuff like that. 1328 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:03.199 Yeah. 1329 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:07.000 He talks about how they use star Trek in a 1330 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.280 lot of the programs, and there's a lot of weird 1331 01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:13.880 stuff with Star Trek in general. I love Star Trek, 1332 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:18.960 but that's beside the point. And there was an actress 1333 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.239 in Star Trek, the first one, the original one. Her 1334 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.079 brother was a member of the Heaven's Gate Cult. 1335 01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.840 Come on, so I'm telling you this is all fuck. 1336 01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.639 Come on, I did not know that. I love. 1337 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:36.679 You know. 1338 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.039 Yeah, he killed himself in the Heaven's Gate Cult. 1339 01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:43.400 We got it. I just put a pan in my 1340 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.039 brain on that one. We're definitely gonna be talking about 1341 01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:46.599 that in the future here, Julie, because that's uh. 1342 01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:49.840 You know, man, I love subjects like this, because I 1343 01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:53.800 love science fiction stuff. I think Jules Verne actually inspired 1344 01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.360 all of the Inner Earth talk and like the new 1345 01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.599 Godzilla calling movies with like the interview, that all comes 1346 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:01.559 from Jules Verne. 1347 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.360 Dude, I'm glad you said that. So just like that 1348 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.280 all comes from Jules Verne. And then we get these 1349 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:08.280 ideas of what we're supposed to accept space as from 1350 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.199 folks like Arthur C. Clark and Isaac asim Off for 1351 01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.800 Reacherman's buddies, and you know, he's a literary agent. The 1352 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.400 idea that dinosaurs may still run the Earth comes from 1353 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.199 this guy, Willie Lay. He's a German fellow scientists fell 1354 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.320 and sci fi writer who was also part of that 1355 01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.880 same sci fi club in Los Angeles, whose literary agent 1356 01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.719 was also for reachermen. So that you know, these ideas 1357 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.679 that we that are getting created through cryptozoology and whatnot. 1358 01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.000 This dude is the one who literally started the idea 1359 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.000 that disor still exists on the planet in nineteen forty nine. 1360 01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:41.599 And then what did he help? 1361 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.480 This dude also wrote a book in nineteen what's that 1362 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:45.519 did he. 1363 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.159 Help with Spielsberg on fucking Jurassic Park? 1364 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:50.559 Well, look, I mean we're not that far off from 1365 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:52.440 this whole crew, right, So like it's Spielberg kind of 1366 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:54.840 the next generation of the same kind of club, Right, 1367 01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.239 That's kind of how I'm almost looking at it, right. Sure, 1368 01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.280 So Willy lay right a book in nineteen twelve called 1369 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.559 Conquest on the Moon with other than Werner von Braun 1370 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.199 again Warner von Braun by this Shortly thereafter starts a 1371 01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.880 pen pal and telephone call relationship with Jack Parsons old 1372 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:17.840 Marvel Jack Parsons, right, von Braun's in Germany, Parsons is 1373 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.760 in Pasadena. You know, what are these two? How do 1374 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.319 these two link up? Right? And why are they talking 1375 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.720 on the phone? Their international calls are not that you 1376 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:30.239 know common back then, right. How weird is that? 1377 01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:35.279 I wonder if I wonder if this guy was friends 1378 01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.520 with Cubrick at all, because Kubrick and von Baron were friends, 1379 01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:42.039 and he did. 1380 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.039 Now he just hit me with a different one, because 1381 01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:50.199 I don't know who the intersection of Akerman and Kubrick is, 1382 01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:54.359 because definitely Isaac Asimov and Clark were because they were 1383 01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.680 on not only on the set, they are also involved 1384 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.800 with the Pall eleven missions the time as far as 1385 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:02.960 tech they were quote unquote technical advisors. 1386 01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:05.359 Well, then Kubrick's got to be in there. 1387 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:07.560 Yeah, they got to be in there. Something old Jack 1388 01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.319 Kirby too, Right, So two thousand and one of Space Odyssey, 1389 01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:12.119 they had a comic book from Marvel Comics that was 1390 01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.520 supposed to come out simultaneously. That was from Jack Kirby. Again, 1391 01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.479 Cocaine Bob meets Marvel Comics. Right, we're talking about the 1392 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.800 same club of folks, right, Jack Kirby's want of stan 1393 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:21.560 Lee's associates. 1394 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.159 Obviously they're all in there. 1395 01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:25.079 They have to be. 1396 01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:27.359 They absolutely have to be. 1397 01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.840 So I appreciate y'all joined me here on that quick 1398 01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.720 journey and how we got to the story of Back 1399 01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.000 to the Future, and again how it revolves around I 1400 01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:37.680 took you all on a back to the future yourself 1401 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:40.680 talking about how I was just discussing these things last 1402 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.960 week inadvertently did not even consider at the time how 1403 01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.399 much this tied into this future one we already had 1404 01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.840 planned because I didn't really consider how much of the 1405 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.359 sci fi connections I really were. But it's obviously pretty deep. 1406 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:55.199 So onto the film. 1407 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:57.279 Onto the film, JJ, I'm just going to jump in 1408 01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.119 really quick, which promise shoot yet. Well, okay, So the 1409 01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.359 Michael Aquino thing, since I've read a lot of his writings, 1410 01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.720 it totally makes sense to me he did identify as 1411 01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.199 as Seth. I think he even has a fucking story. 1412 01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.279 Yeah's you're telling me it's a ZIZI is a zip lord. 1413 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:15.960 I mean he look at the colors, It's like it's 1414 01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:19.880 his banah thing. It's like very like, you know, sapphire tablet, 1415 01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:24.039 like flashing red. It's like just like he was just 1416 01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.279 obsessed with like Cabala and obsessed with the sufferer and 1417 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.520 obsessed with like trying to deify them and make them 1418 01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.560 into like real things. And that goes to your point 1419 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.880 about Warner Ron braun making like the dick shaped rocket. 1420 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.319 It's like that is like very right. If you're like Marty, 1421 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.359 he's the Marsian Marshall Martian maybe, but he's like a 1422 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.000 martial figure, so he's like erect. He's itth o fail 1423 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:51.159 like we would call it in our history. So he's 1424 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:54.600 it's like the projections, like the projecting off the earth 1425 01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:58.119 with fire. Just like Julia said, the car has fire 1426 01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.600 behind it. It needs fire for like Heidi and I 1427 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.520 were talking about the chat, it needs fire for transmutation. 1428 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:06.720 But it's not the only thing that happens. Like we said, 1429 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.640 there's a lot of mercurial elements in it. And Heidi 1430 01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.720 caught that amazing point about Jacy Penny, because you need 1431 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.079 copper to transmute gold. So one thing I was interested in, 1432 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.720 independent of Nick's amazing notepack, was what is the composition 1433 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.119 of a Dolorean and like, how could you sort of 1434 01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:30.479 cabalistically mapped steel and specifically the steel that was used 1435 01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:34.880 to make Deloreans. So it is actually an interesting kind 1436 01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:36.560 of question if you're looking at it from like an 1437 01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.000 outchemic color cobalistic loans, So you would have to consider 1438 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:44.199 it to be to Ferradic that lions Gate sort of 1439 01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:50.239 element but becoming from Mars because the content is largely Iron, 1440 01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:55.479 so it's a majority. So that's really interesting, I think 1441 01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.600 to think about, like there's a lot of Marshall stuff. 1442 01:11:57.680 --> 01:12:00.319 Elon like to bring up something Nick said, Yeah, there 1443 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:03.359 is kind of an Elon thing because he's obsessed with Mars. 1444 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:07.920 And obviously Werner Vroon Brown is obsessed with Mars because 1445 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.840 there's that. It's that question in modern occult to some 1446 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:13.319 do men come from Mars or do they come from Mercury? 1447 01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.199 But I think that Euro's journey makes room four. They 1448 01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:20.560 can come from both, or they can maybe grow through 1449 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.840 the paths and come out you know, through the fire 1450 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.319 if you want to call that, and you know, enter 1451 01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:28.439 the pathiosis whatever. 1452 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.159 Fair enough, But that is that is the story I like, 1453 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.079 I like your heads, and that is the story where 1454 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:38.079 we we are at the moment right with the storyline 1455 01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:40.560 here back to the Future revolves around this, the transport 1456 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.920 of Marty McFly Michael J. Fox's character through this here 1457 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.600 fancy car that I well, we can get into more 1458 01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:49.199 of this discussion on the car here because you know, 1459 01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:51.680 after we you know, develop more of this tale here. 1460 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:54.319 But see, I find it very unique that for many 1461 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.720 reasons they chose this car. But so he meets Doc Brown, 1462 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.760 and you know, they get they start doing this seemingly 1463 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.960 our interrupting time right and disrupting reality. But really I 1464 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.399 would argue, that's just the nature of reality was always 1465 01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:08.479 gonna happen that way. But what are your all thoughts 1466 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:10.479 here on the characters that we we lay out the 1467 01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:12.880 story here back to the future, right, we got a 1468 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.279 teenager meeting the old scientists right again, I would argue 1469 01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:19.880 that's a Marvel Jack Parsons Warner von Braun, right doctor 1470 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:21.880 von Braun relationship. 1471 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:27.520 I I definitely saw this in a different weird I 1472 01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:30.079 was telling Jin in the chat just that I saw 1473 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.640 it as he was like a Zeus type character because he's, 1474 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.920 you know, gonna be messing with the lightning later. 1475 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.359 There's more. I don't want to give it all right now, but. 1476 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:44.319 Like, oh, go ahead, please please describe the character that's 1477 01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:45.560 that sounds I like words. 1478 01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:49.520 Sure, so he's gonna you know, overthrow Cronus, but but 1479 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:52.279 we also have Pluto, we have plutonium. 1480 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.479 So he's gonna throw Cronus by defeating time or by 1481 01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:57.479 traveling through time. That's like a defeat of Chronos. 1482 01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:00.079 Is ever saying, well, he's gonna he's gonna get. 1483 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.560 Him out of the unreality to send Marty back through 1484 01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:10.560 to reality by harnessing with his rod that's wrapped like 1485 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.359 a kundalini and he's gonna harness the energy to hook 1486 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:16.359 it onto the car. 1487 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:17.680 That's what I see. 1488 01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.960 And then Neptune post Sidon's there at the Under the 1489 01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:23.600 Seed Dance. There's a statue of him. If you catch that, 1490 01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:29.199 he's there, Pluto's there, Plutonium. It's the tale of you know, 1491 01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:31.159 them defeating Chronos. 1492 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.319 Eh, Yeah, the Under the Seed Dance. It certainly seems 1493 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:37.880 very chilling because it was a very that was one 1494 01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:39.319 of the scenes. Like I said, there's not a lot 1495 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.279 of scenes filmed here, and they put a lot of 1496 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:43.319 effort into really decorating that. 1497 01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:48.199 I feel like, yeah, they really put Yeah I put 1498 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.239 that in my notes too, that they spent a lot 1499 01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:51.359 of time decorating that. 1500 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:55.800 And really it's and all that like on and on 1501 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:57.920 about this Under the Seed Dance. It was like over 1502 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.319 and over and you know, it was lot. 1503 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.199 Well to that same nature. Is that, like, why do 1504 01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:07.159 you think Marty McFly is always wearing uh this life 1505 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:14.239 preserver preserver there right, So yeah, they joke on him, right, 1506 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.560 he gets flound on about it. 1507 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.119 Yeah, when he walks into the until they get the 1508 01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:20.920 place to get wherever at the. 1509 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.520 Diner, what you would you fall overboard? 1510 01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:24.079 Is that what he said? 1511 01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:27.720 And then when he gets hit by the car and 1512 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.079 and Lorraine's parents. 1513 01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.399 Take him in and she's like, I figured you're a 1514 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:36.199 sailor because you have the life preserver on. 1515 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:40.239 What's the use of Calvin Klein in that? In that 1516 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:43.359 aspect too, right? Because they he's wearing Calvin Kline underwear. 1517 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:44.560 So he starts going by the name. 1518 01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:49.720 That's Mormons, because he got his new name, and he 1519 01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.680 got his underwear and got his underwear, he got his 1520 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:53.279 new name. 1521 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.920 Consider he went through the veil and he has his 1522 01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:03.520 he's a new specific. Yeah, but I mean like in general, 1523 01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:05.199 well in general. 1524 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:09.560 Any magician would taken him name. I mean, it's not 1525 01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:10.520 just a Morman thing. 1526 01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:13.199 So you're saying, that's an oto aspect to. 1527 01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:18.479 That's any magician, Masons and Masons ceremony magician. 1528 01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:23.800 Yes, yes, is this terrificant that they're purple and that 1529 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.119 they bring that up. I've never seen purple. 1530 01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:28.720 Be royalty, there would be probably more of like making 1531 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.119 a claim that you've actually seen both sides. 1532 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:33.880 Yeah, red is both life and death. 1533 01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:38.960 Yeah, the red resolution of paradox, bringing the blue and 1534 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.039 the red together, the material spiritual And. 1535 01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:45.199 Even when he goes to the dance, Yeah, he's in 1536 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.000 a reddish jacket again, even at the. 1537 01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:52.479 Dance, So they keep I thought that was an amazing point. 1538 01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.960 Sorry, no, no, I was just saying they keep him 1539 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:56.279 in red. 1540 01:16:57.800 --> 01:16:59.720 See, this is really interesting. But I want to say 1541 01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.119 that thing really quick about what Heidi was saying, just 1542 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:06.720 to build off that was joked in Vida astrology, Jupiter 1543 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:09.600 is the planet of the teacher, so it's but it's 1544 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:14.039 the spiritual teacher, not the not necessarily the material teacher, 1545 01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:17.000 which is actually more gevrotic in Hebrew. Balls. That's actually 1546 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:21.520 really interesting as well. And but I agree with what 1547 01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.199 Heidi's saying in like, I don't use obviously the Greek cosmology, 1548 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.000 but I understand what she's saying, and it makes a 1549 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:31.680 lot of sense because there's this third idea of So 1550 01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:36.079 we spoke a little bit yesterday about the hyper Uranian 1551 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.600 the trans Plutonian obviously that's though both of those ideas 1552 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.199 are in this film. But then there's like the third idea, 1553 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:47.399 which is the trans Neptunian. So it goes exactly with 1554 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:51.199 this under the sea, the dreaming God. That's even one 1555 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:53.199 of the names for a Vishnu. And if you map 1556 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:54.960 him to the tree, he'd be like that choked ma, 1557 01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:59.560 so a very Neptunian figure. He's dreaming under the superno ocean, 1558 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.760 sleeping on his back and his serpent like a deis 1559 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.399 I guess you could say. So, yeah, it's like this 1560 01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:10.119 the dreaming God. He's sleeping reality into existence. And then 1561 01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:14.000 there's this last idea and that but the idea of 1562 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:17.760 space versus time, and this goes perfectly along with that 1563 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:22.800 because Vishnu is assigned space whereas like as Heidi said, 1564 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.399 she called him Kronos, I'm gonna call him Shiva, but 1565 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:28.600 he is time at least in one version. 1566 01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:30.560 So too. 1567 01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.359 Yeah, the women, we can't forget the women too. 1568 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:37.079 So it's always this battle. It's always this battle in 1569 01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:41.079 like sort of occult thinking like do you master space, 1570 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:44.119 do you master time? Like which one is it? Which 1571 01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:48.840 one is superior? And it's because it's both poles, right, 1572 01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:51.239 It's really it's it's a Hopemah and bin Off. So 1573 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:54.760 it's both of those things and they're like it's like electric, 1574 01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:58.600 like very lightning. So but that's how they kind of 1575 01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.680 spark off each other. 1576 01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:04.800 Interesting. We have any more thoughts here on on the 1577 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:06.760 uh Marty flies a character? 1578 01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:10.199 Oh not Marty, No, sorry, his girlfriend. 1579 01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:11.399 You want to get to his girlfriend next? 1580 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.039 Yeah? Yeah, I just think at the very beginning when 1581 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:17.600 she's coming out of the school, Well, first of all, 1582 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.720 Jennifer is white wave and so she that's represented with 1583 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:24.239 Venus absolutely, and she's at the top of the stairs 1584 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.359 and he never ascends up, but she starts coming down 1585 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.079 and she meets him, but he doesn't go up, which 1586 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:31.039 makes total sense. 1587 01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:33.479 And then we've got the mom too. 1588 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:37.800 But you know, her name is Lorraine, which doesn't translate 1589 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:42.600 into much but La rain like queen and isis and 1590 01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:44.880 then we get into you know, I'm gonna marry my 1591 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:45.640 son things, so. 1592 01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:48.880 That you were you were saying it doesn't relate to much, 1593 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.119 but I think Nick was talking about it released to Kronos, right, 1594 01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:51.600 the Rain. 1595 01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.399 Oh yeah, yeah, it's some of the uh the jamati 1596 01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:57.840 when I get to it, yeah. 1597 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.079 Right, oh yeah, and that's that's what ott he was 1598 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:04.600 just saying, too. Right, So you came up with some 1599 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.600 Jamatria conclusions concluding what Hatty was just saying without you know, 1600 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.960 from two separate angles. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I 1601 01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:11.359 have to. 1602 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:13.720 Look for that specific. 1603 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.960 That's pretty interesting. I know what you were saying that, Heidi. 1604 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:17.800 I was just and I was like, wait a second, 1605 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:20.119 I've heard these I've heard some similar things before, and 1606 01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:22.680 I was looking back at Next Night some yep, ye Nick, 1607 01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:24.239 Nick already reaches inclusion. 1608 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.920 There's no, no, no, no, no, totally think I think 1609 01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:29.680 it's interesting because I think it's great. 1610 01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:31.920 You're saying it from one perspective he's doing jamatry and 1611 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.600 come up with that same conclusion. It's reaching these things. 1612 01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.159 That's that's interesting. 1613 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:38.279 Because there's a there's a there's a deeper launch. 1614 01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:43.079 Even with too Yeah, yeah, okay, I like this. 1615 01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:43.920 That's interesting. 1616 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.800 When the prince is at Mercury, like Marty's at Mercury 1617 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:54.199 before he leaves on his magic journey. Okay, the mother 1618 01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.239 the Venus sprangmp what Heidi said. So we're kind of 1619 01:20:57.319 --> 01:21:02.239 synthesizing Nick and Heidi his ideas. She's attracted to him. 1620 01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:06.199 That's kind of the idea. But it's really it's like electromagnetic, 1621 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:11.119 that's really what it is. But it gets a confusing feeling, right, 1622 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.880 it's it's easily confused. That's very hermetic, that's very mercurial. 1623 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.680 It's like kind of entwined. 1624 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:22.920 So because father and he took his father's place when 1625 01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.800 he got hit by the car, so he becomes the 1626 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:30.000 father's journey, and it's it's linear than and like just 1627 01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.680 like when I say isis and stuff like I'm talking 1628 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.119 about like with the isis horse, what does she do? 1629 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:39.560 She says he's the reincarnation of her husband, So that 1630 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:41.359 combination makes total sense. 1631 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:47.520 You know, yes, oh real quick, uh JJ, if you 1632 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.279 don't mind, Yeah, I was, I did. I wasn't speaking 1633 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.279 up fast enough before we left off a Martin McFly. 1634 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.159 I did actually have some things just real quick. I 1635 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.359 didn want to try with him because I did have 1636 01:21:57.399 --> 01:21:58.000 a section. 1637 01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:01.680 Just at least do going on with his character, right, yes, 1638 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:04.399 kind of the he's kind of that that not only 1639 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:07.359 the hero's journey, but he's kind of that Masonic kind 1640 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.239 of uh what do they call it? Like sun god 1641 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:10.760 kind of thing. 1642 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.600 Right, Well, see this is this is something that I've 1643 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.239 said before, and Horace would fit in there, just with 1644 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:19.000 total us. 1645 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:21.479 That's what I was thinking, kind of a horror situation. 1646 01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.680 Well, the thing is my opinion, the hero's journey. I mean, 1647 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.119 you're gonna have different characters for the same exact person 1648 01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:30.880 or energy. It's just gonna have a different name. Like 1649 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.800 I've said before, I think like to and Horace and Raw. 1650 01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:37.560 It is all the same technically, I guess energy or thing. 1651 01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:40.199 It's just during a different time in space. It's something else. 1652 01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:43.079 But uh, right, that's well, that's what that's the term 1653 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:47.800 of hermetic, right, that's thought and and another character, right. 1654 01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.159 Very chemical. Yeah, you from going from one character to 1655 01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:50.800 the next. 1656 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.680 And they matched me together and then the maybe become 1657 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:58.640 Hermi's trist magistus. Right, yeah, but with Marty McFly as, 1658 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.039 uh that is the nature of as it seems. 1659 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:06.079 Yes, Mary McFly as Mercury and Hermes kind of like 1660 01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:09.079 an archetype. But I did I did have in there too, 1661 01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:14.960 But Kuser Beach mentioned his name is Mars though too. Yeah, 1662 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:20.880 Martian right, yeah, Mars, Yeah, like war forced. 1663 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:21.760 He's kind of this this chaos effect, right is that 1664 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:23.640 what that means is like a chaos effort. 1665 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:31.560 Or chaos any chaos to create change regardless, right, someone's messenger. 1666 01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:33.760 I looked at him as a messenger between both worlds. 1667 01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:36.720 I even looked at it like in the beginning when 1668 01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:39.119 he plays the guitar, kind of like the like the 1669 01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:43.199 logos of Thunder, Hermes invents the lyre. So I mean 1670 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.479 I did wonder if there was like somewhere a connection 1671 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.960 with that. He's kind of a trickster again, even playing 1672 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:54.840 the guitar. That's vibration and sound, you know, to right to. 1673 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.079 The loudest degree, right, So that's a very trickster element 1674 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:57.479 to that. Right. 1675 01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.079 Technically, he does go to the future and brings back knowledge. 1676 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.239 I mean he knows of what's his face's death, So 1677 01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:05.840 I mean he is somewhere who was going back and 1678 01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:10.880 forth with bringing knowledge Hermes or I could be wrong 1679 01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:15.119 about the exact person. He had. What wings on his shoes? 1680 01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.520 This guy's got to right, he's got a skateboard with wings, right, He's. 1681 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:21.439 Got a skateboard and a hovering skateboard. So I mean 1682 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.720 he does kind of got like traveling feet in the sense. 1683 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:26.760 Yeah, I was I was going to ask you about 1684 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.920 that because that is the hermit real quick with the wings, right. 1685 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:35.119 Do you know how much? Go ahead, I was just 1686 01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:39.279 gonna say, because I love sneakers and I have a 1687 01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:40.159 lot of Nikes. 1688 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:44.479 Do you know how much that Marty mcflies are. Dude, 1689 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:46.359 don't even fucking try to. 1690 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.359 But is it isn't Nike. It's a good point because 1691 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:52.159 isn't Nike an ancient Greek god as well? 1692 01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:55.279 Yeah, that's why I bring it up because I also 1693 01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:00.399 own the Forest Gump running shoes. How much the other 1694 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:04.000 film for us gun right, I won't tell you how 1695 01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:06.600 much I paid for him. But anyways, Nike is very 1696 01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:12.520 important because we got like this whole Poseidon Mars Chronos 1697 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.520 and he wears those Nikes throughout almost the entire movie 1698 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:19.479 except for when he changes over to the black converse. 1699 01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:23.199 But anyways, the Marty McFly nikes are like a couple 1700 01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.560 grand They don't even make that style anymore. 1701 01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:29.359 But anyways, go ahead. 1702 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.119 Uh one other thing that I had to I mean, 1703 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:36.399 Marty McFly, you get the m m you know that's 1704 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.359 very Masonic. You have McFly, you already have like the 1705 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.319 fly in there. And this one could be a stretch, 1706 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.039 but he did find it interesting that in the movie 1707 01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:48.560 he does get I think aggravated it maybe more than 1708 01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:52.000 once being called a chicken. Nobody calls me a chicken. 1709 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.520 Call him red too later, right, So that's another kind 1710 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:56.239 of Mars reference. 1711 01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.960 Right, And Mercury's animal was a rooster, So maybe that's 1712 01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:02.960 why they want to be the chicken, because no, I'm 1713 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:03.359 a rooster. 1714 01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:03.760 I don't know. 1715 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.399 So it sounds like they're covering the whole basis of 1716 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:09.239 the planetary system here with one character. 1717 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.359 Yeah, exactly, he's gonna he's gonna any any male energy 1718 01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.439 in that cabalistic tree is going to be all him 1719 01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:22.199 and every female energy and that cabalistic tree. That's probably 1720 01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:25.000 why you have the girlfriend in the beginning. In order 1721 01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:27.119 for him, to my opinion, in order for you to 1722 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.840 cross the abyss, you have to kind of untangle the 1723 01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.680 feminine energy. That's why he doesn't bang his girlfriend. Now 1724 01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:35.640 on the other side, if he would have banged his 1725 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:37.279 mom things, you know what I'm just saying, like, now 1726 01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:39.520 you have the total opposite. Like it's just. 1727 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:48.199 So the hero's journey, this travel through the cabalistic tree, 1728 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.560 this is all this is all represented by traveling, by 1729 01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:54.800 traveling through these different planets of his character. Right, he's 1730 01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:59.199 representing Mercury went one time he's representing you know what 1731 01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:00.239 was the purple want to was? 1732 01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:00.319 That? 1733 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:02.000 Was that Pluto. 1734 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:05.159 Saturday? 1735 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:08.960 But the next point braxis too. I was thinking of 1736 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:11.079 Braxis with the chicken things. 1737 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:13.000 Are these Are these all the same things though? 1738 01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:15.000 Like the heroes the Gate? 1739 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:18.720 Yeah, so the chicken representing all thetary travels. 1740 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:23.000 Yeah, he's starting from position A you could say, jumps 1741 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:27.680 in the Dolorean, then ends up he travels through time. 1742 01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:31.359 But the Wikipedia was very specific to say not through space. 1743 01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:34.800 There you go, space is there? There's spot right now? 1744 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:36.159 Space caball all right? 1745 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:41.520 There? Well one point one point one gigawatts to charge 1746 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:45.000 it is for? So think about I don't know if 1747 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.439 you know I have that. 1748 01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:50.000 Did you say one point? Did you say one point 1749 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:52.039 twats one point. 1750 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:53.239 Twenty one chigawatts? 1751 01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:56.960 But I need a nuclear reaction to generate. 1752 01:27:56.680 --> 01:27:57.000 The one point. 1753 01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:11.960 I definitely have something on that. 1754 01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:15.760 So before we get to the one point twenty one, 1755 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:17.920 Jacob watch what was this a Praxis and chicken business? 1756 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:18.800 I don't know. 1757 01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:22.960 Just when Nick says that's what first came to my 1758 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:24.159 mind was a braxtic. 1759 01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:25.319 What's the connection there? 1760 01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:25.399 What? 1761 01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:27.319 I'm not familiar with them with a Braxism. 1762 01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:28.800 Because he doesn't want to be called chicken. 1763 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.760 No, no, what is a Braxis though, Jim, you want 1764 01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:33.880 to go on a Braxis? 1765 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:37.520 So, Braxis is a goetic spirit who's often associated with 1766 01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:39.680 Saint Peter. If you're looking at it through more like 1767 01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.920 left hand paths, falsest and lens like how I used 1768 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:46.640 to and so it was, he's like a guardian of gates, 1769 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:48.840 you could say, if he serves the same function in 1770 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:51.319 the goa as Sam Peter does in like the normative, 1771 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:53.319 because they're all all. 1772 01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:57.680 Colonel chicken Colonel he has, he's the chicken headed. 1773 01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:03.760 Right here, and then his feet are snakes. There we 1774 01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:05.960 go and he holds in his sigil is like a 1775 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:08.920 key and like an a and some other things. 1776 01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.079 But yeah, like remember that left hand path business. 1777 01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:14.840 Remember what he just said about that because later later 1778 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.279 that's going to be something I'm going to talk about later. 1779 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:20.640 So it's the chicken headed snake got eating itself there, right, 1780 01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:23.239 That's what we're talking about with the Braxis. Well, not 1781 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.800 the it's not the That's what I was getting confused with. 1782 01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:28.479 I couldn't think of the names I was getting them. 1783 01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:32.520 Think just think of him in the positive polarity. So 1784 01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:35.560 he's like the guardian of the gate. He's standing at Mercury. 1785 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:38.560 He the guy has to Marty has to go through. 1786 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:40.640 Where does he go through? He has to go through 1787 01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:42.880 a eyisode, so he has to pass through the Truth 1788 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:47.359 or the world. Someone said like the Doctor Brown was 1789 01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:49.720 the sort of like the working next set it. I 1790 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:52.279 was like, there's a tre mantrial link to like the world. 1791 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:56.479 Or the truth with the His name is is everything. 1792 01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:58.600 Emma means everything. 1793 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:01.760 Everything, so it's everything that we see. So it's that 1794 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:05.720 path between like he has to go from householder to 1795 01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:10.039 like magician. So he's a chicken because he's a householder, 1796 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.720 meaning that he doesn't know what the outside world is like. 1797 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.159 But once he's a rooster, the broxis he has to 1798 01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:18.479 pass through that gate. It's like passing through the gate 1799 01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:24.560 to adulthood. So he passed exactly looks like a rooster. Yeah, yeah, 1800 01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:28.880 you're too right. It's like a hard rocket passing through 1801 01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:29.880 negative space. 1802 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:34.479 It kind of seems like people are calling him chicken 1803 01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:36.239 or people are calling him red. It seems like he's 1804 01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:38.800 popping off like he's a cock. Right, kind of kacky 1805 01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:39.119 about it. 1806 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:45.920 Nick's already laugh and not set up, yes to all 1807 01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:46.159 of that. 1808 01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:50.159 So do we have any Nick does anything else on 1809 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:53.279 Martin McFly before we cruise over to Doctor Everything, Von Brown? 1810 01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:56.199 Yeah, sure, yeah, I'm good. Yes. 1811 01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:03.640 So Julie something about one point twenty one gigawatts. 1812 01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:05.960 Yeah, well I was want to say, I figure we 1813 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:07.520 get into that since he's the one point twenty one 1814 01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:08.199 jigawat guy. 1815 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:10.000 Right, Okay, so that's that. 1816 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:12.600 That is how he feels this time machine is through 1817 01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:16.359 this immense amount of power, and and it's uh, he 1818 01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:19.880 needs this exit. I think they you know, obviously created 1819 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:23.039 through this you know, nuclear reaction with plutonium. But these 1820 01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:26.119 are all elements of you know, real science, kind of 1821 01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:28.399 rooted in some science fiction aspects to it, right, and 1822 01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:31.000 this one point twenty one jigawats is probably rooted in 1823 01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:33.000 some occultism, right, Is that? Is that what I'm here? 1824 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:37.119 Well, I don't know what anybody else got out of it, 1825 01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:41.079 but I'll just give you kind of my very limited 1826 01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:47.960 knowledge and what it means to me. Because before before 1827 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:53.000 he says the thing about the jigawats, he sends Einstein 1828 01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.439 into the future, right, and when he gets back, it's 1829 01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:02.279 one twenty one a m yo. And then he says 1830 01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:08.680 one point twenty one, jigawats And this to me stood 1831 01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:10.880 out because it's like, why did they one two one 1832 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:13.520 one two one? Why they keep using this one to one? 1833 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:18.720 And I mean, I just I don't remember was JJ 1834 01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:20.840 on the Gamatria episode or not. 1835 01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:23.239 I'm glad I'm not the only one, Joe. 1836 01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:24.239 No, Okay. 1837 01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:28.439 So me and Nick were talking about on the Gamatria 1838 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:34.079 episode the significance of four and the significance of eight, 1839 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.720 and there are plenty of eighth in here, but the 1840 01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:42.199 one point one, right, the one point twenty one is 1841 01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:44.960 also the four. So I feel like, you know, and 1842 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.840 they're they're using that over and over again. One point 1843 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.760 twenty one jigawats? What one twenty one a m? And 1844 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.199 it's very specific at like to me that that would 1845 01:32:56.239 --> 01:33:01.560 be something they want to catch her as. So I 1846 01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:03.239 don't what did you guys get out of that? 1847 01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:06.439 Before I say, I'm gonna have Nick go because he's 1848 01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:08.119 got the Jamatria I think he might have. 1849 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:11.199 Yeah, you know what the thing is is it pops 1850 01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:16.560 up as if I was to go through my notes, Yeah, uh, 1851 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.079 there was a lot of eights that is for sure. 1852 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:21.079 There was even there was even a picture that I 1853 01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:24.319 had that even shows an eight like one of the 1854 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.399 roads is like a route or something. It shows out 1855 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:28.840 with Martin with the frame. 1856 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:30.880 Which when he got there, Bud, we got Hills, Free 1857 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.520 Hill and Maine. Do you have control of this because 1858 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:38.279 or do I? You got it nice. 1859 01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:44.560 Right there? 1860 01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:48.720 Mm hmmm. 1861 01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:52.159 And this was obviously very intentional because this is a set. 1862 01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:53.600 They all did this on right, So this is. 1863 01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:54.000 Not like. 1864 01:33:56.159 --> 01:34:03.119 Add the numbers three, nine to five to like it's 1865 01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:04.880 eight eight eight. 1866 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:10.359 Well, so also also just really quick, the clock tower 1867 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:14.880 has a lion on either side or a lion s yeah, 1868 01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:19.720 and then he lives in lion estate, which is two lions, 1869 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:24.119 and the lion is Leo, which is the eighth month 1870 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:26.760 of the year. So you're getting double eights on the 1871 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:30.560 clock tower and double eight's on the estate that he 1872 01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:31.079 lives in. 1873 01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.880 Soa is that what you're saying? 1874 01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:41.079 Because the lion is is Leo the eighth month. So 1875 01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.079 if you look at it, it's eighty eight on the 1876 01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:46.640 clock tower and eighty eight on lion estates and then 1877 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:50.079 one point twenty one jigawatts and one twenty one a 1878 01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:54.119 m is four and so if you added that that's 1879 01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:58.159 eight again. But anyways, a lot of eights, a lot 1880 01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:01.640 of fours, a lot of a lot of significance on 1881 01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:03.439 time and numbers. 1882 01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:06.680 For sure, the four for sure, because it's all of 1883 01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:11.079 the elements together and so you're right, yeah, charging it 1884 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:12.000 with everything. 1885 01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:13.279 And think of Emmett. 1886 01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:16.720 What is he He's everything, He's the universe and he's 1887 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:19.800 the one that's always talking about this for because it 1888 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:21.279 makes sense because he's everything. 1889 01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:25.000 So goodness, these. 1890 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:27.800 Lines, yeah, yeah, pretty much. 1891 01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:32.319 Yeah, look, these are some pretty interesting little uh I 1892 01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:33.880 mean again, taking into. 1893 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:36.159 Note that this is all that's a Russian pin. 1894 01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:40.560 This, you know, this is all very well designed, you know, 1895 01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:42.920 for purpose here this is the strange enough. This is 1896 01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:44.479 I believe this is the same set they use for 1897 01:35:44.520 --> 01:35:47.079 Gremlins the year prior to years prior maybe. 1898 01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:51.560 As far as the Badass I Loves. 1899 01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:54.880 Have you watched Gremlins and you watched you know, back 1900 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:56.479 to future, You'll be like, wait a second, I've seen 1901 01:35:56.520 --> 01:36:00.960 this town square before the But these lines are very 1902 01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.479 interesting because you obviously you see them like very prominently 1903 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:06.279 between you know, him and Brown in the middle of 1904 01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:09.399 the clock, and it's very it's a very scene that 1905 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:12.439 you recalled. It gets, you know, very long lasting a 1906 01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:13.279 scene in your memory. 1907 01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:15.640 I feel like there is a clock at the beginning 1908 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:19.920 the very opening scene though, JJ of that, a guy 1909 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:22.800 hanging off of the clock tower, just like that. 1910 01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:24.319 It's it's so sting. 1911 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:25.720 You got to find an image of that. I'm gonna 1912 01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:27.239 have to go back and watch it though and find that. 1913 01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:27.800 Do it. 1914 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:28.840 It's in there. 1915 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.479 It's an opening scene, opening scene. 1916 01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:35.760 It's interesting that errows like it's almost pointing onto like 1917 01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:40.960 the paths that the magicians should take, like which way 1918 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:41.439 he should go? 1919 01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:44.119 Like I know that I have some things that I 1920 01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:45.600 want to say, but I don't want to say it 1921 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.119 yet because it'll wreck stuff because we're not there yet. 1922 01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:53.439 But yes, absolutely, or should I wreck it? 1923 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:57.800 What? Nick? 1924 01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.600 Did you have anything else on that pen talking about? 1925 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:01.560 Excuse me? 1926 01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:03.920 On the what that you were talking about? A pin 1927 01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:05.079 on your slides? 1928 01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:05.239 Here? 1929 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:08.560 Pin somebody who's somebody? 1930 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.960 Oh yeah, yeah, wow, my bad, my bad? Yeah yeah, 1931 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:13.920 that was the pin that I mentioned before. You can't 1932 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:15.840 really see it too well, but it is a it's 1933 01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:19.399 a pin that goes back to uh some Russian stuff. Again. 1934 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:21.279 It's just when when I get into it, it's just 1935 01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:25.800 a lot of stuff rocket stuff Jamatria. Uh yeah, let 1936 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:27.000 me pull up my notes. 1937 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:29.479 Wouldn't that be ware of its Russian rocket stuff? It connects. 1938 01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:34.680 Besides, it was something with like art art gallery okay, yeah, 1939 01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:37.319 place of Uh Marty wears a souvenir. It's a souvenir 1940 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:40.800 button from the Art and Revolution Soviet art and designed 1941 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.880 from nineteen seventeen to nineteen thirty five, exhibition that toured 1942 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.680 the UK in the late nineteen seventies early eighties, mostly 1943 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.840 known at Liverpool's Walker Art Gallery. 1944 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:54.960 Well, that's a weird thing to incorporate in this film, 1945 01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:55.479 notes think. 1946 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:59.399 Well, there's tons of like weird Russian shit kster eggs. 1947 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.800 That was very red dawn of them. 1948 01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:07.479 Okay, there you get more more embedding in the communism, 1949 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:10.079 the era of the of the times, right, Nansi communism. 1950 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:15.840 Mara's one thing I can bring up I have in 1951 01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:18.720 front of me, now, sure if you don't. It goes 1952 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:20.880 with the seventeen in the eight It's kind of like. 1953 01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:23.479 What I say, I'm around a roll with these numbers, 1954 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:24.600 please yeah, please keep going? 1955 01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:29.640 All right? All right? Yeah, when Marty leaves the house, 1956 01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:34.000 he is the address. It's sixteen forty six at equal seventeen, 1957 01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:39.119 and then you can turn that into eight again. Then 1958 01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:41.560 you also get I don't know what made me think 1959 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:45.560 about it, that is a date, and I looked that 1960 01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.760 up for like anything to go with me sonic stuff, 1961 01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:58.399 and back in October twenties, well, October sixteenth, sixteen forty six, 1962 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:03.680 going by the old calendar, which would be October twenty sixth, 1963 01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:08.319 sixteen forty six. Elias Ashmole, who's a a Brosa Crucian too. 1964 01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:12.239 We've covered him on the Occult Rejects with Absidia Mott, 1965 01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:21.960 and he got initiated into freemasonry. And that is the 1966 01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:25.399 very moment Doc and Marty fire up at the Loren. 1967 01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:28.960 It is October twenty six, nineteen eighty five. 1968 01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:33.399 Interesting, it looks like Marty's address is sixteen forty six. 1969 01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:36.000 Yes, that's why. Yeah, the first. 1970 01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:39.600 Yet, these things are a lot of these things are 1971 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:41.199 deeply better than what you're telling me. H. 1972 01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:46.000 In sixteen forty six, the Saint John that there was 1973 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.119 a Masonic Wait, hold on one second, there was one 1974 01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:49.800 thing that I wanted to just mention. Anything is interesting. 1975 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:54.079 Thomas Brown's he has a book that comes out that 1976 01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:58.800 coins in sixteen forty six as well coins the word electricity, 1977 01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:02.479 so the where electricity even comes out in sixteen forty 1978 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.000 six and somebody else that I have mentioned multiple times, 1979 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:10.439 and I've said about like being able to move you know, 1980 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.960 spirits of demons through light and crystals. Anthony SIUs Kircher 1981 01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:17.479 in sixteen forty six put out a book saying that 1982 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:21.119 he thinks that you can project moving images with light. 1983 01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:24.880 That's very interesting thing, because that's really what we're talking 1984 01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:27.560 about here, is the magic through the moving images of light. 1985 01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:30.920 Who Yeah, and I should have clarified on my address, 1986 01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.199 it's the real address of the real house. So nine 1987 01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:37.039 three zero threw that might be happen because I think 1988 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:41.359 it does change. I think that's just the actual reel 1989 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.000 at like where they film Oka and I. 1990 01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:45.439 Was just looking at that too hot, do you right? 1991 01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.800 There is the idea of they made a fictional address 1992 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.239 for these buildings versus the real locations even the numbers. 1993 01:40:51.079 --> 01:40:52.760 Once again, this because. 1994 01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:58.840 You would purpose right, no reality, Yeah, well there you go, 1995 01:40:59.159 --> 01:40:59.479 there you go. 1996 01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.680 That's a good look at it too. Go ahead and. 1997 01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:06.479 Bringing the polls together, you're layering it, you're using you're 1998 01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:08.920 choosing a house that has a magic number to begin with. 1999 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:12.119 There's lots of houses that do. Then you're going to 2000 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:16.159 add in your fi metafictional. Very all magicians do this. 2001 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.239 They kind of create like a fake narrative. We could say, 2002 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.359 it's not that it's a lie, it's just that it's 2003 01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:24.119 it's like a movie. It's like kind of fictional, so 2004 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:26.520 but it's kind of real at the same time, because 2005 01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:29.239 there's like real it's a real underlying truth. Like I'm 2006 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:32.600 really impressed by everybody. Let me just say, like how 2007 01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:35.800 good like Nick is, Heidi is, Julia is, you are 2008 01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:38.359 JJ Like I didn't know any of this coming into this, 2009 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:40.800 Like I didn't really have that deep of a thought, 2010 01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:43.119 but I I and I have to say that the 2011 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:46.960 thing about Jupiter, that height he keeps saying is really 2012 01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:51.319 important because there's the saying call that the spark, the 2013 01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:56.399 mercurial element, that the starting point of the prince is 2014 01:41:56.520 --> 01:42:00.479 the heart of that Jupiter character or the Zeus character. 2015 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:03.000 It's the heart of hes said. So it has to 2016 01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:07.159 go through his journey in order to be expansive, like lightning, 2017 01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:11.000 to travel through space. That's the whole thing, is to 2018 01:42:11.039 --> 01:42:14.199 become lightning. Then he reflects off the water like a 2019 01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:17.399 mirror and the lightning goes everywhere else and then can 2020 01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:19.640 energize like everything else. 2021 01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:23.600 There's just so much lightning stuff here, right, Oh. 2022 01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:27.479 There's some exactly what he said, and then I'm going 2023 01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:29.640 to say something at that towards the end, and it's 2024 01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:32.800 gonna all come together exactly what he said. Like that's 2025 01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:37.560 how I interpreted it anyway. But I like everybody's stuff 2026 01:42:37.560 --> 01:42:41.520 because it's all different, you know. But it's a duality movie. 2027 01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:42.880 Oh yeah, for sure. 2028 01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:45.359 I think a duality to all of it. 2029 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:47.439 Right, it's right, dar in Hill Valley, you're getting a 2030 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:53.359 duality exactly. That's even another thing you Yeah, November fifth 2031 01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:54.239 is one of the dates. 2032 01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:58.119 In the movie, right, November fifth, nineteen fifty five was 2033 01:42:58.119 --> 01:42:59.439 the actual day. I think that's when we developed a 2034 01:42:59.479 --> 01:42:59.880 flux cap. 2035 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:04.840 That's guy folks, they too, right, Oh yeah, yeah, Hill 2036 01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:06.479 Valley matches Guy Fokes. 2037 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:08.199 New ship. 2038 01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:08.560 Yes. 2039 01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:14.680 Well, And you mentioned Germany before and Einstein's Freemasons stuff. 2040 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:20.319 The Freemason lodge that he was reportedly associated with is 2041 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.680 the Theodore ding new Hoff number one. 2042 01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:28.039 One one in Berlin, Germany. I thought that was weird. 2043 01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:34.119 Nice, No, Hill Valley just even throw in the two 2044 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:37.560 which I thought was weird because as I go along, 2045 01:43:37.680 --> 01:43:39.439 like when we talk about things all at the Jamacia, 2046 01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:41.720 as I follow it in my notes, you get a 2047 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:44.159 lot of twins stuff coming up, and you even have 2048 01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.880 twin pines. You don't know a lot of stuff. It 2049 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:50.880 does match the twins in twin peaks and two keys. 2050 01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:53.800 I thought that was maybe interesting because I think I 2051 01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:57.520 started getting uh, all right, just real quick. It is 2052 01:43:57.600 --> 01:43:59.840 the next thing I have anyway at mayor Goldie Wilson. 2053 01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:03.520 I looked up, you know, Goldie Wilson. His his name 2054 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:07.479 matches twin dragons, the Secret Key, and Wilson equals the 2055 01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:12.520 Joker and the Dragon, and Valley equals like Martister USSR 2056 01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:13.800 and Caduces. 2057 01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:15.159 How do you like? 2058 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:18.359 And man the Caducers too. 2059 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:22.199 You will get an excluppius later on, which is, you know, 2060 01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:25.720 the same thing, just man minus one of the one 2061 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:27.800 of the snakes. Right. 2062 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:32.560 Also, if you add eleven plus five plus fifty five 2063 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.560 is seventy one some plus one, you get. 2064 01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:40.439 Another eight holy smokes eleven times eleven one twenty one. 2065 01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:43.359 The eights are really everywhere in this film. I mean 2066 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.800 they went really hard tocore on that. Huh Yeah, old Maxing. Yeah, 2067 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.119 for sure, shooting Max and I like that. I like 2068 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:52.560 the Maxing terminology of the I'm trying to the zoo 2069 01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:54.199 the Zoomers. That's more of a Zoomer term. 2070 01:44:54.239 --> 01:44:57.600 I feel like, Yeah, but if you're very online, like 2071 01:44:57.640 --> 01:44:58.119 if you're. 2072 01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:02.279 Now, is that a keynote term where we that's from the. 2073 01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:05.000 Zoomers, but it's it's kidding by Millennial Saturday. 2074 01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:05.560 It's cool. 2075 01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:08.000 Yo. I had that stuff on Jennifer. 2076 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:10.159 It kind of cracks me up, right, like the whole 2077 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.560 idea of MAXI right this, you go ahead, nic what 2078 01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:13.960 we're saying. 2079 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:14.840 Yes, I didn't throw up. 2080 01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:15.119 I had that. 2081 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.279 I finally looked at that stuff with the Jennifer the 2082 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:21.800 jamacho U asked me to talk about Yeah, that equals 2083 01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:28.680 in simple Venus Horus Mason's square tower the fool. Her 2084 01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:32.840 phone number is five five five four eight two seven. Now, 2085 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:34.359 I mean I just kind of took out the five 2086 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.439 to five. No, I'm sorry, four eight two three. I 2087 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:38.760 took out the five five five because that's like on everything, 2088 01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:42.039 and the last four would equal seventeen. You can add 2089 01:45:42.079 --> 01:45:47.520 to eight again, damn. And he lives in Lion in 2090 01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:50.840 the States. And then simple that equals twin and lion 2091 01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:52.119 and Hebrew equals Russian. 2092 01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.319 Well there the twin pillars, don't you think? 2093 01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:59.359 Yeah? And they were back to the duality here too, right, 2094 01:45:59.479 --> 01:46:01.960 we got the the different versions of the mall during 2095 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:06.359 different times. Right with this, like you're saying, Julia with 2096 01:46:06.439 --> 01:46:09.560 the with the nine to eleven predicted programming aspects to you, 2097 01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:11.680 you also have the single tower now too. Right. 2098 01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:14.319 Well, I was going to say, I think this would 2099 01:46:14.359 --> 01:46:17.239 be a good time if if you could jj to 2100 01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:21.680 play my clip. If not, I can he text it 2101 01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:24.319 to Nick and see if he can get it pulled 2102 01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:26.359 up on his But I did email it to you. 2103 01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:30.520 Well, well, let's uh, you know, I I'll work on 2104 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:33.760 that here. Let's let's start talking about some of your 2105 01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:35.439 thoughts here on the mall. Well, I get that clip 2106 01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:36.439 up here for us please. 2107 01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:40.239 I mean the twin twin turns to the loan because 2108 01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:41.399 he's finished the journey. 2109 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:44.279 He's not he's coming out, he's not going in. So 2110 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:46.680 it's completion type. 2111 01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:48.079 Is it? One? 2112 01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:49.880 Thirty four am eight? 2113 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:50.560 As well? 2114 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:52.800 It's all eight mm hmm. 2115 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:56.600 There, but never reduced. You should really never reduce a 2116 01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.359 prime number. I'm not saying you're wrong it's not it's 2117 01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:01.920 not like that. You're right, it's eight, but it's all 2118 01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:05.520 it should be seventeen. But Heidi's right because it is. 2119 01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:08.359 It's showing a different path on the tree. So it's 2120 01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:10.680 the one plus the thirty four. Thirty four is the 2121 01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:14.359 number of apotheosis. So you've gone through the whole tree 2122 01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:18.119 and then you've exactly like Heidi said, you've come back 2123 01:47:18.319 --> 01:47:23.439 into the kingdom. But the twin pines mall you've split off. 2124 01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:26.319 You are the hero on the dragon, you are the 2125 01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:29.960 beast and the hero both, and then you've just gone 2126 01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:32.560 up straight to tiffer it. So you have to the son, 2127 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:35.760 which is again to your point about the lions, Julia, like, 2128 01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.640 that's what the symbol is. Leo is the son, so 2129 01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:41.840 that's why you see that there. So it's like, that's 2130 01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:44.479 also the beast. That's why it's a noble animal, but 2131 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:45.880 it's also a beast. 2132 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:49.560 And also the son. It is the son doing the 2133 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:52.640 journey for the father because he takes his place and 2134 01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:56.159 kicks him out of his place where he should be 2135 01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:58.439 because he's the one that gets hit by the car. 2136 01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.159 So therefore, once again, can. 2137 01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:05.720 We just say the fact that George McFly was a 2138 01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:07.279 peeping creep in to. 2139 01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:15.359 Weird, so weird, I'm a sexual sex magic again. 2140 01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:19.399 You're getting, yeah, that's all that gets super creepy, really 2141 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:23.439 circunsidering all those aspects, it is dark. So you're saying 2142 01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:26.279 there's some sex magic aspects the numerology of that. 2143 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.640 There's some like actual like outward ones at the end too. 2144 01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:35.000 And with George McFly, I I dare say, when we 2145 01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:36.960 get to him, it'll make a lot more sense. I'm 2146 01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:38.560 going to hold onto it so I don't mess you 2147 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:40.199 guys up, because we're going to play the clip. 2148 01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:42.479 And I don't know if Nick said this, but maybe 2149 01:48:42.520 --> 01:48:43.560 he is the fool. 2150 01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:46.800 We're gonna have to take a moment on that clip 2151 01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:49.880 because I couldn't quiet download, but I didn't forward. He 2152 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.880 can handle it. My connections to the moment and the 2153 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:53.720 file was too big? 2154 01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:56.159 Can I text? 2155 01:48:57.720 --> 01:48:58.520 I got it right now? 2156 01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:00.000 Perfect? 2157 01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:02.439 If you can, if you're if you're able to play, 2158 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:08.640 that would be super helpful. It wouldn't It wouldn't let 2159 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.199 me share it all on my end. 2160 01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:14.600 I can say one thing, why we're going and talking 2161 01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:17.439 about this about George, If you guys want so. 2162 01:49:18.199 --> 01:49:21.279 I truly done with everything von Braun here is ever 2163 01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:21.640 telling me? 2164 01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:26.439 I think, well, yeah, yeah, I think okay, the. 2165 01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.319 Whole film, that's just the whole The whole film is 2166 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.840 you can consider like a von Braun Parson. 2167 01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:35.039 Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. 2168 01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:38.520 Even this image that you pulled up, it's call a 2169 01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:41.960 sec exactly like what Nick said, most people don't pick 2170 01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:44.840 up the purple density I've been on. Most people don't. 2171 01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:47.920 They'll associate black like deep black, but there's actually a 2172 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:49.800 flashing blue and a purple there. 2173 01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:53.560 Purple purple is basically saturn. 2174 01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:57.840 That's right, that's a right When Nick said, like, that's 2175 01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:00.760 like that's more deep knowledge, Like most people wouldn't say that, 2176 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:04.560 they would say black or whatever. So that's what I mean, 2177 01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:08.479 like a little more you'd have to have a little 2178 01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:13.640 more magic knowledge maybe to like pick that specific thing 2179 01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:16.600 rather than just pick Like if you're picking from a book, 2180 01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:18.680 you're going to pick black because that's what the books 2181 01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:22.159 would tell you. But if you're picking from experience, you'd 2182 01:50:22.199 --> 01:50:26.960 pick purple with the flashing gold and the lightning in between, 2183 01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:28.479 because that's like the luminosity. 2184 01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:32.880 Do you think that it's significant The mayor's name is 2185 01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:41.159 Goldie whatever, whatever, Goldie Wilson. Wilson, Yeah, Goldie Wilson, Like 2186 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:43.399 because you mentioned the J. C. 2187 01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:46.520 Penny and like the other stuff, and then like the 2188 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:48.520 mayor's name is Goldie. 2189 01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:50.680 That's interesting. 2190 01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:55.199 Could be also inspired by Marty because Marty says, oh, 2191 01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.800 you should run for mayor. So it's like he impacted 2192 01:50:58.880 --> 01:50:59.920 that outcome as well. 2193 01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:05.880 His will a very gump experience, you know before Zamicas 2194 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:07.880 is Forest Gump. I mean, Marty McFly did a lot 2195 01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:15.159 a lot of Yeah, we're saying, Jane, apologize, I stepped 2196 01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:15.279 on you. 2197 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.319 Well, no, no, that's okay. I just think that that 2198 01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:21.039 was a really interesting point Julia made, like about the mayor, 2199 01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:23.279 and then Nick said, like a bunch of amazing points 2200 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:27.000 about the mayor's name, like the double keys. That's very 2201 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:29.560 Saint Peter, Like we're talking about a braxis part of 2202 01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:33.039 his sigil is a key. Saint Peter holds the double keys, 2203 01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:35.239 but there was actually more than two keys to get 2204 01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:37.479 into the gate of habit in a more esoteric greeting. 2205 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:42.039 So that's really interesting, right, And so yeah, maybe he's 2206 01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:44.880 like the he's the grand master of the town. He's 2207 01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:47.920 like the grand master mason of their little lodge in 2208 01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.960 the middle of wherever they are. So that's what I 2209 01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.800 would see him as. He's the tifferatic in nature. He's 2210 01:51:53.840 --> 01:51:56.840 a thirty three even has like his one of his 2211 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.560 billboards had magic numbers. I don't remember what it was. 2212 01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:03.520 I'm sure wrote it in his notes, but I just 2213 01:52:03.720 --> 01:52:07.760 I that's like immediately what I thought, like Goldie Wilson tifferatic, 2214 01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:10.560 like Okay, he's going to be the boss. But he 2215 01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:13.079 was projected outwards so that it was like a very 2216 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:15.680 I consider this film like very plus ultra like it's 2217 01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:19.239 very like magicians wrote it. Magicians kind of inserted their 2218 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:25.279 little you know, little like little tricks and interesting little 2219 01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:27.439 points to the East Eggs as I do you call them. 2220 01:52:27.479 --> 01:52:30.159 That's a perfect way to describe it. So they inserted 2221 01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.840 it in and they're like, oh, how deep? How many 2222 01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.520 layers can you go? Because interestingly, this is considered a 2223 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:41.119 perfect film, like there's no technical errors. The editing is 2224 01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:45.600 considered like really really good, right, So it's a perfect 2225 01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:51.920 hermeneutic to carry the magicians East Eggs seeds forward into 2226 01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:56.319 the future, because what travels through space and time but 2227 01:52:56.800 --> 01:52:58.640 flashing light and moving images? 2228 01:53:01.640 --> 01:53:03.600 Ye, yeah, for sure, I got. I finally got your 2229 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:06.039 video cued up here, Julia. I was able to finally 2230 01:53:06.079 --> 01:53:07.840 download it here. My connection got. 2231 01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:10.000 Better, but I just concarting it. 2232 01:53:10.079 --> 01:53:15.439 I couldn't get it, but no, I don't. I couldn't 2233 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.319 get I got have to share it from a different app. 2234 01:53:17.439 --> 01:53:20.640 But do we have any more commentary here on some 2235 01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:23.880 of the this George rook Flaud before we jump into 2236 01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:25.079 that George. 2237 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:28.000 Yeah, I have lots on George, but I can wait until. 2238 01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:32.079 You know it's got them up right now, Okay, I 2239 01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:35.640 just think that George, there's a couple of things that 2240 01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:39.239 were Easter eggs that I found, and that's that. He 2241 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.960 he mentioned that he was a left handed person, but 2242 01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:46.680 he's writing right handed for some most of it. 2243 01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:47.920 And they used to push this on. 2244 01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:51.439 People because it was very seen as negative. And I 2245 01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:55.199 dare say this whole thing is about how George's life 2246 01:53:55.439 --> 01:53:59.199 is going to be changed if he continues on right 2247 01:53:59.279 --> 01:54:01.439 hand path or the left hand path right and they're 2248 01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:03.840 forcing him to be on the right hand path, but 2249 01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:04.800 we don't really. 2250 01:54:04.720 --> 01:54:09.079 Know if that's what he would decide. And so we 2251 01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:14.279 also have his name means earthworker or farmer, and or 2252 01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:17.479 it means works with the dirt, which we get back 2253 01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:20.399 to Adam. Adam means ready we get into the whole 2254 01:54:20.640 --> 01:54:25.079 Adam you know Mason type stuff there when we're talking 2255 01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:25.920 about creation. 2256 01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:31.159 So where George is concerned. I think it's pretty interesting 2257 01:54:31.359 --> 01:54:34.520 that eventually, when he's had enough of enough and he 2258 01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:41.720 punches the guy, he does it with his left hand, 2259 01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:45.000 even though he's been using his right hand the whole. 2260 01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:50.439 Time, and so it's kind yeah, and then what happens 2261 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:51.439 is he goes home. 2262 01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:55.479 And also we have to remember the lightning path is 2263 01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:58.119 a direct ascension, and it's fast and it works, but 2264 01:54:58.279 --> 01:55:02.720 also it's not always the best way. It's very magical. 2265 01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:07.000 It's very left hand path to choose lightning, and you 2266 01:55:07.119 --> 01:55:09.880 go back and his life is completely not hard anymore. 2267 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:13.720 He's got all the comforts which would be very Luciferian, 2268 01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:17.560 very left hand pathy, like, okay, you know, it's much 2269 01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.560 better now. Now he's bossing people around. Now he's the 2270 01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:25.000 boss of his own universe, and he's chosen. That one 2271 01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.560 thing changed everything for George, that punch. 2272 01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:32.640 Sure, so I can go on the left handed path, huh, 2273 01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:34.800 That's how I felt about it. 2274 01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:40.439 Interesting, that was an incredible point. I have to say, like, honestly, 2275 01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:43.399 I didn't touch on it all, but it's like sounds 2276 01:55:43.439 --> 01:55:46.159 so obvious when Heidi's singing, and I'm like, oh fuck, 2277 01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:46.680 why did I? 2278 01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:49.840 Why did I had help with the punch? But the 2279 01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:51.880 thoughts were mine on the rest. 2280 01:55:53.319 --> 01:55:55.000 I think the folks of the chat and the interwews 2281 01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.039 you're agree with you, HOWI that's an excellent point, Thank you. 2282 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:00.880 Thank you. I think that that's all all you know. 2283 01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:04.000 And so when we think about Marty, why is he 2284 01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:07.800 the one going through this path right because he took 2285 01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:11.319 the Dad's place. We're back to isis what happens with 2286 01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:15.319 Horace is the son is the father, and the father 2287 01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:17.920 is the son. The son is the recreation of the father. 2288 01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:20.840 So he takes over the journey to fix it for 2289 01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:23.560 him because he's too much of a goofball really to 2290 01:56:23.640 --> 01:56:26.079 do this right, Like he's just not doing it correctly. 2291 01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:29.039 So the son is fixing it all the way. And 2292 01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:32.359 then he ultimately gets the choice with the hit and 2293 01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:36.079 he chooses which way he goes there, and then his 2294 01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:38.039 whole life is completely changed after that. 2295 01:56:39.039 --> 01:56:41.479 So that's fascinating when to look at. 2296 01:56:41.399 --> 01:56:45.840 That, and he's able to reconcile sort of the changes 2297 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:49.600 in his life. So he's like the true hermetic character 2298 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:50.279 of the movie. 2299 01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:54.039 Yes, and they're one and the same because you know, 2300 01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:56.560 the son is the father for a brief time until 2301 01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:01.720 he returns to reality, which is why it's not reality, 2302 01:57:01.920 --> 01:57:04.840 because it's you know, he's fixing past. 2303 01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:08.560 So what's the show on it? What's the show on 2304 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:09.199 the background? 2305 01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:09.359 Here? 2306 01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:12.399 There's a good question from Dolan Ferguson. It's it's Ralph Cramdon, 2307 01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:14.720 right and the honeymooner's right? Is it? 2308 01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:15.800 I can't e would tell. 2309 01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:19.479 Doesn't Ralph always want to send his wife to the moon? 2310 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:21.159 Oh? 2311 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:21.720 I think so? 2312 01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:24.960 Yeah, yeah, he's always send his wife to the moon. 2313 01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:26.680 I mean it's a little domestic violence, but I mean 2314 01:57:26.720 --> 01:57:28.720 he's always trying to send his wife to the moon 2315 01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:32.600 by hitting her, right. 2316 01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:37.560 Heid he said a really great plaint about how like, yeah, 2317 01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:40.399 he's rectifying the past. She didn't use that exact phrase, 2318 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:42.479 but it does exactly what she. I mean, we're all 2319 01:57:42.520 --> 01:57:44.840 speaking the same language, so that's what she's talking about, shering. 2320 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:48.640 You bring both hands into synthesis. You're fixing the sins 2321 01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:51.479 of the father. Yes, it is in the dream of 2322 01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:54.760 the magician, dream of the you know, person traveling. We're 2323 01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:57.960 saying Marty. So it's like in his dream. But for 2324 01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.800 the even in that dream he is though he is 2325 01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:04.039 those people. That's tarycromatically correct. That sounds weird. 2326 01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:07.840 I'm sorry, No, that's a good Now, I'm appreciate. That's 2327 01:58:07.840 --> 01:58:09.680 a good point there. I just want to one cavet 2328 01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:11.800 on the show. So that was the show. Later when 2329 01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:13.640 he goes back in nineteen fifty five, the one there 2330 01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:16.119 with George McFly, we see in the background him watching 2331 01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:19.960 eight nineteen eighty five is Science Fiction Theater, which was 2332 01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:22.199 a show from nineteen fifty five. It was his favorite 2333 01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:24.319 show apparently as a child or whatever they're you know, 2334 01:58:24.439 --> 01:58:26.439 as a teenager. So it's a little you know, it's 2335 01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:28.119 a little interesting, right, a little. The show in the 2336 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:31.039 background is Science Fiction Theater. And then again they're doing 2337 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:34.000 some you know that more space stuff, right, more. 2338 01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:38.439 Space space yep, not that more many though, No Mason 2339 01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:42.119 Mason's and a could tea today. 2340 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:48.439 So do we have anything else here on mister McFly, 2341 01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:50.479 and before we kind of go over some of the 2342 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:53.600 esoteric aspects and the cold aspects of the journey that 2343 01:58:54.119 --> 01:58:56.439 they go on here, No, but I. 2344 01:58:56.479 --> 01:58:59.039 Have a funny little piece because you know, I love 2345 01:58:59.119 --> 01:59:01.800 JFK so much when he goes back to the Ronald 2346 01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:04.680 Reagan thing and and he blows Doc's mind and he's. 2347 01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:07.239 Like, well, who's the president then? And he's like Ronald 2348 01:59:07.319 --> 01:59:11.000 Reagan and he and he says, why you have got 2349 01:59:11.039 --> 01:59:13.279 an actor? Like does he need to look good on TV? 2350 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:17.239 That's a hat tip to JFK because JFK once time 2351 01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:18.800 got on a speech. 2352 01:59:18.880 --> 01:59:21.000 Yeah, and he was like, I'm just gonna win because 2353 01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:21.560 I look good. 2354 01:59:22.720 --> 01:59:25.399 That's interesting because I have that clip right here. Roady, Doc, 2355 01:59:25.520 --> 01:59:26.359 you gotta believe me? 2356 01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:31.760 Then tell me, suture boy, who's president of the United 2357 01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:33.520 States in nineteen eighty five? 2358 01:59:34.319 --> 01:59:39.920 Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan the actor, it's dot you gotta 2359 01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:41.359 believe me that tell me? 2360 01:59:42.640 --> 01:59:44.560 I think that all. I think that also ties into 2361 01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:47.319 the Donald Trump aspects that we see that introduced back 2362 01:59:47.319 --> 01:59:49.319 to the future too and kind of that kind of 2363 01:59:49.359 --> 01:59:51.600 predictive nature as I was referring to, where did these 2364 01:59:51.640 --> 01:59:54.159 ideas come from? But that is an interesting aspect of 2365 01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:55.560 JFK too, perspective. 2366 01:59:55.680 --> 01:59:59.720 Did you notice when Marty gets to nineteen fifty five 2367 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:03.239 and he's walking through town Square, the movie that's on 2368 02:00:03.399 --> 02:00:05.039 it the movies is a Ronald Reagan. 2369 02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:09.000 No shit, well I know what one it is when 2370 02:00:09.039 --> 02:00:11.960 they get yeah, yeah, yeah, it's up on the Yeah 2371 02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:13.920 the first thing, Yeah what wait what you just said? 2372 02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:16.920 You on the movie zooms in on it. Yeah, it 2373 02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:18.319 says Ronald Reagan. 2374 02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:21.000 And that's awesome. 2375 02:00:22.079 --> 02:00:24.880 It's a meta movie. Before the meta movie, I never 2376 02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:27.319 really thought about it like that because this never really 2377 02:00:27.359 --> 02:00:29.680 gets considered to be like a meta film. The first 2378 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.520 meta film was Thesis, which is a Spanish film from 2379 02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:35.960 like nineteen ninety five. So we're talking about like pretty 2380 02:00:36.119 --> 02:00:40.199 late like past this film. But this film really actually 2381 02:00:40.279 --> 02:00:43.279 has it all. It's really telling you. It's like everything's 2382 02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:47.000 not in a wink to the outside reality, to the 2383 02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:48.680 outside world. So it's very interesting. 2384 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:54.279 Yeah, well, I totally agree, and I think that's a 2385 02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:56.880 good point. It's good jumping off point for the video 2386 02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:58.560 that that Julian wants to share with this year, which 2387 02:00:58.560 --> 02:01:01.119 I've I've kind of it down here. It's the name 2388 02:01:01.159 --> 02:01:03.439 of the video. I apologize, Julie, but I've kind of 2389 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:05.239 keyed it down to these aspects of what we're just 2390 02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:07.800 talking about there and the Twin Pines, mall the nine 2391 02:01:07.800 --> 02:01:10.439 to eleven predictive programming. I am familiar with this clip. 2392 02:01:10.520 --> 02:01:11.800 Is is this true? Stream media? 2393 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:12.039 Is that? 2394 02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:13.720 Who is that? Who originated this clip? 2395 02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:17.680 So Colby found it and he talked about it on 2396 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:22.000 his podcast, which is where this clip is from. If 2397 02:01:22.039 --> 02:01:24.000 we can't play the whole thing, that's fine because I 2398 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:27.920 can sum it all up however much we watch. If 2399 02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:30.039 we don't get the rest of it, I can sum 2400 02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:34.560 it up. But the video that is in this clip 2401 02:01:34.680 --> 02:01:38.239 is no longer available. It got removed. You can't find 2402 02:01:38.279 --> 02:01:42.560 it on YouTube, you can't find it anywhere. So that's 2403 02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:45.960 why I had to get the clip from his podcast episode, 2404 02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:48.680 because you can't even go find the actual clip itself. 2405 02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:51.439 So it's one of those things. 2406 02:01:54.000 --> 02:01:55.359 I think I've seen a long time ago. I think 2407 02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:57.079 it was. I didn't realize it had been. It had 2408 02:01:57.119 --> 02:01:59.880 been memory hold with the way Houdini here because that, Yeah, 2409 02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:02.319 think it was true stream media that made that up originally. 2410 02:02:02.520 --> 02:02:04.560 Yeah, they've removed it from everywhere. 2411 02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:11.199 Interesting, Yeah, No, I think there's some great points brought 2412 02:02:11.239 --> 02:02:13.520 up in here with even additional layering of this whole 2413 02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:18.439 you know, this whole nine to eleven twenty hours business, right, 2414 02:02:18.520 --> 02:02:21.479 you know again, it's I don't know if I don't 2415 02:02:21.479 --> 02:02:23.000 know if that's the true stream media. The name, the 2416 02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:25.760 name of that one, well, I don't remember all these names, 2417 02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:28.039 too many names, but yeah, I have come across this clip. 2418 02:02:28.079 --> 02:02:29.760 But it's interesting they would memory hole it there, right, 2419 02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:33.720 because it's almost like it provides validity to the fact 2420 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:35.520 that there's something way, way deeper going on here. 2421 02:02:35.600 --> 02:02:36.880 Huh Yeah, yeah. 2422 02:02:39.119 --> 02:02:41.279 Do we have anything other commentary there before we start 2423 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:43.239 the clip? I think you were gonna say something. 2424 02:02:45.640 --> 02:02:49.359 Yeah, I think should already moved my notes. Yeah, there 2425 02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:51.399 was something I was gonna say about George mcfl about 2426 02:02:51.399 --> 02:02:58.239 the stuff that is. Yeah, sorry, George mcflight again when 2427 02:02:58.279 --> 02:03:01.319 you get i'd already mentioned dragging the keys. His name 2428 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:05.319 equals three keys and wood dragon, and George does equal magician, 2429 02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:16.079 pineal Rose and Saturnalia. Yeah, and Lorraine his mother and 2430 02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:18.279 his Lorraine his mother's name equals Kronos. 2431 02:03:19.640 --> 02:03:21.880 And there's the what's you know? Is there any reference 2432 02:03:21.880 --> 02:03:23.560 to the Cross of the Lorraine with the name with 2433 02:03:23.680 --> 02:03:26.279 the use of the name Lorraine, Yeah. 2434 02:03:28.079 --> 02:03:31.520 Yeah, because if if to go with what Heidi had 2435 02:03:31.600 --> 02:03:34.920 pointed out, like it's it can be also translated as 2436 02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:37.800 the Queen, so Lorraine is also a region in France, 2437 02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:41.159 so all of like people with that name that would 2438 02:03:41.199 --> 02:03:44.479 have originated in that region of France. So yeah, it's 2439 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:48.760 like a very templar Rosicrucian, you know, very like it's 2440 02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:52.039 a very magician's nod to something like waing quain like 2441 02:03:52.279 --> 02:03:52.920 look over here. 2442 02:03:55.359 --> 02:03:58.079 Well, and to your point, Nick put to the pineal 2443 02:03:58.720 --> 02:04:01.760 the twin pines. I mean, we've got pines, pine cones 2444 02:04:02.399 --> 02:04:06.279 a neil, so that's all gonna be pressing. 2445 02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:12.039 Yeah, with the twin pines, that's very that's very much 2446 02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:13.560 a nod of that high with the pine cones. 2447 02:04:14.800 --> 02:04:15.720 I was gonna say that. 2448 02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:19.560 Pine cone. 2449 02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:23.600 All right, Well on that day, we'll we'll uh, we'll 2450 02:04:23.640 --> 02:04:33.880 get started here on this journey on this video. Maybe 2451 02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:37.520 I gotta get some sound going for us here. 2452 02:04:39.439 --> 02:04:47.279 Yeah, oh, I don't think the sound is coming through? 2453 02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:52.560 Is the sound not coming through? 2454 02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:53.199 No? 2455 02:04:55.279 --> 02:04:57.840 Shoot, I was afraid of that. 2456 02:05:00.479 --> 02:05:03.640 Well, can you walk through it with your analysis? Why 2457 02:05:03.720 --> 02:05:05.039 we watched the visual. 2458 02:05:05.159 --> 02:05:08.159 Julia, do you mind telling us what's going on here? 2459 02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:11.800 Oh? 2460 02:05:12.039 --> 02:05:15.039 She muted, Sorry, I can definitely do that. 2461 02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:18.359 If you back it up to the beginning, we can 2462 02:05:18.479 --> 02:05:21.720 speak through the whole eight minute thing. In like two seconds, 2463 02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:27.920 because I can break it down for you myself. But yeah, 2464 02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:30.600 take it all the way back and I'll tell you 2465 02:05:30.760 --> 02:05:34.640 when to fast forward it or whatever. So this guy 2466 02:05:34.760 --> 02:05:38.920 is basically talking about how Back to the Future is 2467 02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:47.239 predicting the nine to eleven terif attacks, and he starts 2468 02:05:47.279 --> 02:05:50.279 with this letter because in the background here if you 2469 02:05:50.359 --> 02:05:52.880 can see us, he's writing this letter to Doc Brown, 2470 02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:54.800 there's this there's a sign in the back with the 2471 02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:57.800 big nine on it and it's set. 2472 02:05:57.680 --> 02:06:00.119 Same intersection with was that an eight? Was that at 2473 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:02.760 eight and three? The same when we saw the four Bloods. 2474 02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:05.159 I thought I was the ship, putting the ship in 2475 02:06:05.239 --> 02:06:05.600 my nose. 2476 02:06:07.000 --> 02:06:11.560 Well, this right here he's saying like twin pines and 2477 02:06:12.199 --> 02:06:17.199 actually the the terrorist attack with the twin pines, And 2478 02:06:17.560 --> 02:06:21.680 if you flip the time upside down, it's nine to eleven. 2479 02:06:23.079 --> 02:06:28.119 And so we got nine eleven at Twin Pines Mall 2480 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:34.319 with the terrorist attack, and then the pines are representing 2481 02:06:34.359 --> 02:06:38.039 the towers whatever. And then at the end of the 2482 02:06:38.479 --> 02:06:42.520 movie it's lone Pine representing the single. 2483 02:06:44.199 --> 02:06:47.640 What do they call it, the One World Tower. 2484 02:06:48.840 --> 02:06:52.520 Whatever it is, Yeah, Trade Center. 2485 02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:57.600 And then again Doc Brown on his clock, he sends 2486 02:06:57.720 --> 02:07:02.720 ay into the future one nineteen that's another nine to eleven. 2487 02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:05.560 But in the second back to the future, they got 2488 02:07:05.640 --> 02:07:08.880 the Twin Pines on the TV and they changed the 2489 02:07:09.039 --> 02:07:14.920 channel and it immediately becomes a visual of the Twin 2490 02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:22.000 Towers right there. Yeah, so it's like they're tin pines, 2491 02:07:22.199 --> 02:07:23.640 just like in the first one. Then it goes to 2492 02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:26.359 the Twin Towers. This is supposed to be in twenty fifteen, 2493 02:07:26.520 --> 02:07:32.840 right into the future, and the he's shown the nine 2494 02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:36.880 to eleven thing again, the terrorist attacks the Libyans. 2495 02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:40.199 Uh huh, and he talks about how. 2496 02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:43.039 This guy right here, I think it's Georg McFly, he's 2497 02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:46.920 hanging upside down right oh, in the Statue of Liberty Torch, 2498 02:07:47.720 --> 02:07:50.279 which also is like the New York reference with the 2499 02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:57.000 twin Towers there, But uh, is it George McFly in 2500 02:07:57.079 --> 02:07:59.239 the second one that's hanging upside down in this scene. 2501 02:07:59.279 --> 02:08:02.560 I can't remember or is it market it's George, but 2502 02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:05.760 it's not Crispin Glover. It is George the character Georgeman play. 2503 02:08:06.039 --> 02:08:09.880 Right, So if you look at it from his perspective, 2504 02:08:10.039 --> 02:08:14.279 basically with him hanging upside down, he'll flip it and 2505 02:08:14.439 --> 02:08:18.479 it'll show like this is a projection of the towers 2506 02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:21.560 falling in back to the future too. 2507 02:08:24.479 --> 02:08:27.720 But if you act Jerio Hangman, is that what you said? 2508 02:08:28.960 --> 02:08:29.560 It's very. 2509 02:08:31.560 --> 02:08:33.760 But if you speed it up just a little bit, 2510 02:08:34.079 --> 02:08:38.560 because we already talked about this part. It's in towers 2511 02:08:38.640 --> 02:08:41.680 Da Da Da nine to eleven hanging upside down. 2512 02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:45.520 We talked about all the Libyans where the pharaohs like military. 2513 02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:49.239 I did not know that, yes, yeah, yeah, And and 2514 02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:51.600 in this uh, this bit, I just all since you 2515 02:08:51.920 --> 02:08:54.199 waiting for it fast forward, they do they do, they 2516 02:08:54.279 --> 02:08:56.760 do specify it's in a K forty seven and they said, 2517 02:08:57.239 --> 02:09:00.279 damn Russian guns or some shit like that, because I 2518 02:09:00.279 --> 02:09:02.000 do have tons of stuff that points to Russia. So 2519 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:04.760 I'm even trying to show that with this part two. 2520 02:09:06.479 --> 02:09:09.840 So in this part he's talking about how it says 2521 02:09:10.119 --> 02:09:17.880 tower strike on the newspaper, tower struck like twin towers, 2522 02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:21.920 tower struck, and how in this scene it cuts it off, 2523 02:09:22.000 --> 02:09:26.600 but it goes nine eleven with the fire nine one one. 2524 02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:30.680 And then in the background is they all seeing eye 2525 02:09:32.159 --> 02:09:35.680 that is that is looking at them, And so Robert 2526 02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:39.640 zemeckis this is the date when they go back into 2527 02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:46.000 the future, right, October twenty for twenty fifteen. So Robert 2528 02:09:46.079 --> 02:09:50.039 Zemeckis would later go on to direct a film called 2529 02:09:50.199 --> 02:09:55.880 The Wire October twenty first, twenty fifteen about a guy 2530 02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:01.479 stringing a wire between the Twin Tower and walking across it. 2531 02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:07.079 So he's literally referencing the date of the movie he's 2532 02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:10.159 gonna make in twenty fifteen, So from nineteen eighty five 2533 02:10:10.279 --> 02:10:12.439 Back to the Future twenty fifteen when he comes out 2534 02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:15.000 with the Wire on the day that he put in 2535 02:10:15.239 --> 02:10:18.680 Back to the Future, Too, is another movie about the 2536 02:10:18.760 --> 02:10:20.840 World Trade Center, which. 2537 02:10:20.720 --> 02:10:23.239 Is wild because they made a documentary when that dude 2538 02:10:23.279 --> 02:10:25.079 did that at the time in the late seventies, right 2539 02:10:25.079 --> 02:10:28.319 after they built the trade centers, he made a documentary about. 2540 02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:30.920 It, I believe, right, And so like in Back to 2541 02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:33.720 the Future, they're like, what's with the wire? What's with 2542 02:10:33.880 --> 02:10:36.960 the wire? Talking about the wire from the clock tower 2543 02:10:37.239 --> 02:10:40.680 to the DeLorean, And then roberts Mechis goes on to 2544 02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:44.319 make a movie called The Wire about a guy stringing 2545 02:10:44.359 --> 02:10:48.119 a wire between the twin towers and walking across it, 2546 02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:52.960 right the walk, Yeah, it's called And the craziest part 2547 02:10:53.039 --> 02:10:58.119 about it is actually the way that he dresses the 2548 02:10:58.319 --> 02:11:03.760 character in the Walk is the last outfit Marty McFly 2549 02:11:04.000 --> 02:11:07.199 has on right here, it'll show it. Yeah, so Marty 2550 02:11:07.279 --> 02:11:10.600 McFly has on the black leather jacket, the red shirt, 2551 02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:13.000 and I don't know, I guess like some kind of 2552 02:11:13.079 --> 02:11:18.279 blue jeans or something. Literally, that's the exact outfit that 2553 02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:22.159 he puts on the Guy in the Walk twin Time. 2554 02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:25.079 Gordon Levitt, ma'am, that's jg L. What are you talking 2555 02:11:25.079 --> 02:11:25.359 about it? 2556 02:11:25.720 --> 02:11:28.760 I never I never really liked him after ten Things 2557 02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:29.439 I Hate about you. 2558 02:11:30.399 --> 02:11:34.159 He's definitely anent alien cargo cult you know, Rock red Son, 2559 02:11:34.600 --> 02:11:36.000 he plays in the Batman films. 2560 02:11:36.920 --> 02:11:39.640 But yeah, so, I mean it's it's literally kind of 2561 02:11:39.760 --> 02:11:44.960 like this weird Twin Towers pictive programming thing between the 2562 02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:47.479 first two Back to the Future movies and then a 2563 02:11:47.560 --> 02:11:52.079 movie he literally directed exactly thirty years later, to the 2564 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:55.279 Date and Back to the Future too. October twenty first, 2565 02:11:55.319 --> 02:12:00.159 twenty fifteen, he releases another movie about the Twin Towers. So, 2566 02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:04.319 I mean, it just makes you wonder how much of 2567 02:12:04.520 --> 02:12:05.920 this is purposeful? 2568 02:12:06.760 --> 02:12:06.960 You know? 2569 02:12:08.199 --> 02:12:10.079 And it also kind of makes me wonder, where does 2570 02:12:10.199 --> 02:12:12.199 where does ideas come from? And how does time work? 2571 02:12:12.239 --> 02:12:15.560 Because how does that get plan to do all those things, like. 2572 02:12:15.680 --> 02:12:18.159 How did he know in nineteen eighty five to talk 2573 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:21.439 about October twenty first, twenty fifteen about a movie he 2574 02:12:21.560 --> 02:12:22.560 hadn't even made yet? 2575 02:12:23.279 --> 02:12:25.119 And how does he know that some looney tune French 2576 02:12:25.159 --> 02:12:26.920 fella is going to go to a trapeez act on 2577 02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:28.840 top of the Twin Towers back in seventy eight? You 2578 02:12:28.880 --> 02:12:30.399 know what I mean? You can't play these things. 2579 02:12:30.439 --> 02:12:37.119 I feel like, well, maybe he can. Maybe that's an interesting. 2580 02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:38.960 Way to I'm open to it. I'm open to it. 2581 02:12:39.720 --> 02:12:43.720 Maybe how that news how he's got a doc brown 2582 02:12:43.840 --> 02:12:45.199 of his own somewhere. 2583 02:12:45.119 --> 02:12:47.520 Right, Maybe that's what it is, because like one of 2584 02:12:47.560 --> 02:12:50.600 the masteries of time is the knowledge of your own 2585 02:12:51.439 --> 02:12:56.720 astrological chart, so that that's demarcations of time in space, right, 2586 02:12:57.600 --> 02:13:02.000 like very practical demarcations of time space. So someone But 2587 02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:04.720 there's also the idea of the magician who's going to 2588 02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:07.560 like plan in the future like every what we call 2589 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:13.479 chrono poetic where we put like the seed, like he 2590 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:15.960 plants the seed in the film, and then he's like, 2591 02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:19.359 I'm going to see this work to completion because like 2592 02:13:19.439 --> 02:13:21.880 I've never even heard of that movie with like Gordon 2593 02:13:21.920 --> 02:13:24.119 love It or whatever his name is, Like, I've never 2594 02:13:24.199 --> 02:13:26.359 heard of it. I've never seen it, and I like 2595 02:13:26.399 --> 02:13:28.880 a lot of Kenos, So I'm not saying that I 2596 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:30.680 know all the films. So I'm just saying that it's 2597 02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:35.119 like it seems very forgettable. So I'm saying that, yeah, 2598 02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:39.279 maybe he manifested it, but like, what was it? It's 2599 02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:42.439 just like some film about the why, right, Like he can, 2600 02:13:42.600 --> 02:13:44.560 he can do the great work, but what is he 2601 02:13:44.800 --> 02:13:47.039 really like bringing forth into reality? 2602 02:13:47.520 --> 02:13:51.399 We're talking about von Braun in space and all that too, 2603 02:13:51.720 --> 02:13:52.640 and time travel. 2604 02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:55.079 I mean, I'm just saying, like that gets weird. 2605 02:13:55.159 --> 02:13:57.800 I'm glad you said. I'm glad you said manifesting also 2606 02:13:57.880 --> 02:13:59.520 on top of the Von Braun stuff, which I think 2607 02:13:59.600 --> 02:14:01.319 is just very fascinating. That is, you know that this 2608 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:04.199 is all inbedded with that again, the whole Parsons relationship, right, 2609 02:14:04.279 --> 02:14:08.119 but with regard to the reality, and Simon went on like, well, 2610 02:14:08.119 --> 02:14:10.239 where are these ideas coming from? You know, is somebody 2611 02:14:10.680 --> 02:14:12.920 are they? Are they manifesting some of these ideas through 2612 02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:16.000 some sort of you know, external sources, communicating these soon 2613 02:14:16.199 --> 02:14:20.359 you know, a plan or even the ideas generally through 2614 02:14:20.399 --> 02:14:23.439 these rigs the space stick right as we call it 2615 02:14:23.760 --> 02:14:25.000 the space stick, right. 2616 02:14:27.119 --> 02:14:27.239 Right. 2617 02:14:27.239 --> 02:14:30.640 It's very like me and like exactly like what heid 2618 02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:32.439 he's been saying the whole time. It's like it's a 2619 02:14:32.520 --> 02:14:36.279 sleeping god and he has to be erect to travel 2620 02:14:36.359 --> 02:14:41.760 through space. So the rocket is like the perfect vehicle, 2621 02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:45.760 very heck a lot right to travel through space and 2622 02:14:45.960 --> 02:14:49.840 to penetrate your mother because the sepherer actually are feminine 2623 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:53.000 in quality. It's kind of an interesting way to think 2624 02:14:53.000 --> 02:14:56.439 about it too. It's like exactly what Marty is doing 2625 02:14:56.560 --> 02:14:59.239 in the whole film. It's like, is he going to 2626 02:14:59.439 --> 02:15:02.960 because it I'm pretty close. It's like, that's very weird. 2627 02:15:05.920 --> 02:15:10.680 Jen, I like that one. So do we have any 2628 02:15:10.800 --> 02:15:13.439 any notes here on this the odometer on there? Because 2629 02:15:13.439 --> 02:15:15.000 it all seems to be rooted in the eights again? 2630 02:15:15.119 --> 02:15:19.239 Huh oh yeah yeah yeah, oh you have it up 2631 02:15:19.239 --> 02:15:20.920 on the screen. I'm sorry, was the notes? 2632 02:15:21.079 --> 02:15:21.279 Yeah? 2633 02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:25.399 Yeah? I thought that was interesting, like when when they're uh, 2634 02:15:25.439 --> 02:15:28.720 because we were talking about like the male and the Libyans, 2635 02:15:29.600 --> 02:15:31.680 it made me think about the odometer when he wants 2636 02:15:31.720 --> 02:15:34.119 to go jump and he you know, did you again 2637 02:15:34.159 --> 02:15:35.800 you have the eight on there? You have thirty three 2638 02:15:35.840 --> 02:15:38.920 oh six? I do find it interesting if you leave 2639 02:15:38.920 --> 02:15:43.720 it up, though, it does change as he's driving somehow 2640 02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:44.479 it goes backwards. 2641 02:15:46.640 --> 02:15:48.439 The bottom's ninth interesting. 2642 02:15:49.199 --> 02:15:55.079 And then what do you mean the mileage goes backwards? Huh? Yeah? Wow? 2643 02:15:57.359 --> 02:15:58.920 Is that even a nott the time travel? I don't know. 2644 02:16:00.039 --> 02:16:01.560 Thirty three and then it goes back to thirty three 2645 02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:03.279 oh six and you can see the two seven right 2646 02:16:03.319 --> 02:16:06.960 there also, and then this is zero eight. Is this 2647 02:16:07.159 --> 02:16:10.960 after or before before he jumps? That's before he jumps. 2648 02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:14.399 So he goes back okay, and then he fixes everything. 2649 02:16:14.479 --> 02:16:17.920 If you look backward on that, if you add the 2650 02:16:18.000 --> 02:16:23.960 numbers on the on the other picture with the odometer, 2651 02:16:24.159 --> 02:16:26.479 it goes back to a one on the bottom. 2652 02:16:28.399 --> 02:16:32.280 Back to what I was saying on the completion. It's 2653 02:16:32.319 --> 02:16:35.280 on the other a doometer on the changed one. When 2654 02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:35.840 they fix it. 2655 02:16:39.280 --> 02:16:42.040 When when he hits you know, when he crosses over 2656 02:16:42.079 --> 02:16:43.440 you remember how like he hits a scarecrow in that 2657 02:16:43.479 --> 02:16:48.680 guy's property. Hey, yeah, yeah, scarecrow equals as scluppy as 2658 02:16:49.479 --> 02:16:54.079 and Francis Bacon masonry and the letters nine to eleven 2659 02:16:54.879 --> 02:16:57.520 and April eighth and April eight is also the first 2660 02:16:57.559 --> 02:17:01.520 writing of the Book of the Law. The speed the 2661 02:17:01.600 --> 02:17:04.600 speed when hitting the scarecrow you'll see on the screen 2662 02:17:04.879 --> 02:17:06.680 is like, h if I let me see if I 2663 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:07.280 can move over. 2664 02:17:08.479 --> 02:17:09.879 If you don't have that, bring it up. 2665 02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:13.879 But right there he hits it at seventy seven. Seventy 2666 02:17:13.959 --> 02:17:19.680 seven is conduces Valley Jester USSR silly. 2667 02:17:20.639 --> 02:17:23.959 Damn Nick, I wouldn't expecting you to hit. 2668 02:17:23.920 --> 02:17:24.680 Me with that one. 2669 02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:29.360 And then when he's leaving, you'll hear at some point 2670 02:17:29.399 --> 02:17:33.360 in the movie, Doc says, uh, he was at mister 2671 02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:35.920 Peabody's house. And Doc does say at some point he's like, 2672 02:17:36.239 --> 02:17:37.799 the guy was supposed to be building a pine farm. 2673 02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:41.520 I wonder why he never did. And as yes, and 2674 02:17:41.680 --> 02:17:45.760 as he's leaving Peabody's yard, you hear him yell, you 2675 02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:47.159 killed my pines. 2676 02:17:48.159 --> 02:17:48.719 Well, there you go. 2677 02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:51.040 That's why I never got built, because Marty ran it over. 2678 02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:55.319 I think that's also why it goes from twin pines 2679 02:17:55.360 --> 02:17:59.559 to lone Pine, because Marty runs over just the one 2680 02:17:59.799 --> 02:18:02.200 and and then there's only one left standing. 2681 02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:06.280 Well, and he also fixes his dad's life and then 2682 02:18:06.479 --> 02:18:09.840 completes the wholeness of the whole thing, so it changes 2683 02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:12.360 to one like he. 2684 02:18:12.440 --> 02:18:14.920 Was a loser and becomes a successful author who's kind 2685 02:18:14.959 --> 02:18:16.840 of a winner there when he comes back right after 2686 02:18:16.920 --> 02:18:21.159 all that. Yeah, yeah, I like, I like, I like 2687 02:18:21.200 --> 02:18:23.000 you picked up on all the rotary signs. And this 2688 02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:24.959 is when you go into a town. I always folks, 2689 02:18:26.000 --> 02:18:27.600 you know, if you go to a town, you see 2690 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:29.040 all these signs. When you pull into a town, that's 2691 02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:35.319 who runs that town and runs Hill Valley, right, the Lions. 2692 02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:38.600 I'm surprised that the Masons aren't on there, because all 2693 02:18:38.680 --> 02:18:43.120 of the town signs in Oklahoma have the Masons on them. 2694 02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:51.440 Is yeah, they are the Lions Club and the Rotary Club. 2695 02:18:51.840 --> 02:18:54.559 Yeah, I guess I was for I was talking about 2696 02:18:54.639 --> 02:18:58.799 right then, the old compass one, the compass. 2697 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:02.319 What if the person to draw to what Julia is saying, 2698 02:19:02.360 --> 02:19:04.639 what if the person making the film is a Mason. 2699 02:19:05.159 --> 02:19:08.159 That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. That's that's the one. 2700 02:19:08.200 --> 02:19:09.600 That's the will. 2701 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:12.600 They don't need to put the this, they don't need 2702 02:19:12.639 --> 02:19:15.239 to put the sigil on the thing because they're wearing it. 2703 02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:18.879 They also don't want to flag their own business necessarily 2704 02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:21.959 too so symbolic, so overtly right, And it's kind of 2705 02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:24.239 a to me, it almost seems like a nod like, Hey, 2706 02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.760 the Masons aren't involved, they're trying to a trickster nod 2707 02:19:26.879 --> 02:19:29.120 right because they're not including the sign on on the 2708 02:19:29.239 --> 02:19:30.879 hill valley sign right, the symbol. 2709 02:19:32.280 --> 02:19:35.559 And real quick, I could actually connect all these too Freemasonry. 2710 02:19:36.319 --> 02:19:36.840 Well there you go. 2711 02:19:37.799 --> 02:19:40.840 Gustaf Laurace ate it wrong was one of the rotary 2712 02:19:40.920 --> 02:19:44.719 cubs for founders. He was a Mason. The National Range 2713 02:19:44.760 --> 02:19:47.399 founder Oliver Kelly was a Mason and used those ties 2714 02:19:47.440 --> 02:19:51.000 to recruit farmers after the Civil War. Daniel Carter Beard 2715 02:19:51.079 --> 02:19:54.719 boy Scout pioneer who helped launch Campfire Girls, was a 2716 02:19:54.879 --> 02:19:58.920 Mason as well. The Grange borrowed in It's an explicit 2717 02:19:59.239 --> 02:20:03.680 harvest ree system for Masonic virtual handbooks. Future Farmers of 2718 02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:06.760 America built its opening and closing ceremony on the same 2719 02:20:07.280 --> 02:20:11.360 Orfico pole format used in Masonic lodges. The American Legion 2720 02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:15.120 has a short initiatory right, and nineteen nineties Fraternal survey 2721 02:20:15.239 --> 02:20:19.959 noted some posts whose memberships were entirely Masonic. So like, 2722 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:23.600 what that's getting at is, basically some American Legion places 2723 02:20:23.680 --> 02:20:28.479 were only like Masons basically that were members. Many small 2724 02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:33.959 Kawanas or Optimist clubs rent local Masonic holes to do things. 2725 02:20:35.639 --> 02:20:42.920 The civic freemasonries nineteenth century stress on philanthropy and networking 2726 02:20:43.040 --> 02:20:46.879 inspired the progressive era in the servicing clubs, which was 2727 02:20:46.920 --> 02:20:52.239 the Kawanis, the Optimist, and the Rotary. The Kawanis International 2728 02:20:52.600 --> 02:20:58.319 sometimes uses Masonic lodges. The Rotary International will sometimes use 2729 02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:00.760 Masonic lodges. And one of the found is, Gus Lore, 2730 02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:06.840 was a Mason in Nazi Germany. I mean the American 2731 02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:11.479 Legion again also has initiatorial things for that, the Grange, 2732 02:21:12.120 --> 02:21:16.639 the Agricultural Degree. The Optimist International will also rent out 2733 02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:19.760 Masonic places to do their things at. So they were 2734 02:21:19.840 --> 02:21:23.440 all either like somehow one of the founders was involved, 2735 02:21:23.479 --> 02:21:26.200 they're renting that space, or they're actually including some of 2736 02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:30.040 their initiatory stuff into their crap, every single one of them. 2737 02:21:30.200 --> 02:21:32.879 I didn't cover the j CS. I actually forgot that 2738 02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:33.479 that was there. 2739 02:21:33.799 --> 02:21:37.360 Yeah, but the j didn't cover this. 2740 02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:39.479 I didn't throw the j c's in there. But I mean, 2741 02:21:39.959 --> 02:21:41.760 that's who the fuck was in the j c's that 2742 02:21:41.879 --> 02:21:42.920 killed count clown. 2743 02:21:42.719 --> 02:21:44.920 Killer John Wayne Gacy. 2744 02:21:45.120 --> 02:21:48.559 Yeah, the JA Yeah, there's something weird with that. 2745 02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:50.639 He was National jay C of the Year, wasn't he. 2746 02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:52.600 That's why he got photographs with Roslynd Carter. 2747 02:21:52.680 --> 02:21:54.600 I believe, yes he was. 2748 02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:59.479 That was in Program to Kill. Actually, Dave McGowan wrote 2749 02:21:59.479 --> 02:22:03.680 about that. There was a comment it was McGowan. There 2750 02:22:03.799 --> 02:22:05.120 was a comment that popped up. 2751 02:22:05.200 --> 02:22:06.079 I don't remember. 2752 02:22:06.200 --> 02:22:10.719 I think the user name was oak Tree sixty nine. 2753 02:22:11.600 --> 02:22:13.319 I fine, you must see this one right here. 2754 02:22:14.200 --> 02:22:16.520 Yeah, okay, I don't know if they noticed this, because 2755 02:22:16.520 --> 02:22:19.959 they say twin Pines Loan Pine upside down, V and 2756 02:22:20.440 --> 02:22:25.000 W and the terrorists were in a v W bug 2757 02:22:25.719 --> 02:22:30.799 van or whatever they call him of old swaggen hippie van, 2758 02:22:31.319 --> 02:22:33.719 you know, which I thought was an interesting selection. 2759 02:22:34.159 --> 02:22:35.079 And you actually. 2760 02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:39.479 Yeah, and you actually see that same van at the 2761 02:22:39.680 --> 02:22:42.760 end of the movie when they're blasting off where we're 2762 02:22:42.879 --> 02:22:46.440 going we don't need roads. That same van is parked 2763 02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:50.440 on this on the street in front of the mcflyes household. 2764 02:22:51.120 --> 02:22:53.079 So I thought that was interesting too. 2765 02:22:54.200 --> 02:22:55.959 Here's a great that is very interesting. Here's a great 2766 02:22:56.000 --> 02:22:58.840 comment about Darth Vader making that scene in there right 2767 02:22:58.920 --> 02:23:02.719 when he does the the alien you know, invasion into 2768 02:23:02.799 --> 02:23:07.159 his father's bedroom there nineteen for nuclear Suit. 2769 02:23:07.520 --> 02:23:09.239 He mixes it with Star Trek too. 2770 02:23:10.000 --> 02:23:12.440 Yeah, but it goes back again to all these you 2771 02:23:12.520 --> 02:23:15.120 know rockets, the nast of the von Braun, the ancient 2772 02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:17.719 alien cargo cult stories you knew of the you know, 2773 02:23:17.840 --> 02:23:20.280 long time ago in a galaxy far far away with 2774 02:23:20.680 --> 02:23:23.000 Star Wars right, couldn't get any more ancient alien than that. 2775 02:23:25.399 --> 02:23:28.200 That's awesome stuff, though I appreciate the comments on those 2776 02:23:28.239 --> 02:23:31.639 things as well. Did you have any any more points 2777 02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:32.760 here on these slides? 2778 02:23:37.440 --> 02:23:39.319 Oh? No, I just want to say that Julia made 2779 02:23:39.319 --> 02:23:41.799 a really good comment, and I also noticed that comment 2780 02:23:42.040 --> 02:23:44.680 that you pulled up jj because it's very the whole 2781 02:23:44.760 --> 02:23:47.600 film is very plus ultray, even Hill Valley. It's like 2782 02:23:47.959 --> 02:23:50.360 two poles of a magnet with a bridge between. Then 2783 02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:53.200 you have the valley, the point of the star coming 2784 02:23:53.280 --> 02:23:58.239 down very eastern star righting into manifestation. That's seventeen, the 2785 02:23:58.719 --> 02:24:04.120 seventeenth path of Venus into your soad. It's coming into formation. 2786 02:24:04.639 --> 02:24:08.200 So you're drawing like the Venus down the wealth, you know, 2787 02:24:08.399 --> 02:24:12.360 all the magic that is that is light really and 2788 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:15.319 you're drawing it in. So it's something really interesting about 2789 02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:18.639 like what everybody's saying, and just like the kind of 2790 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:22.120 meta narrative of the whole film. Because you could also 2791 02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:25.879 say that they're kind of telling you that, yeah, they 2792 02:24:26.000 --> 02:24:29.760 use we use plutonium, this is our cover story. But 2793 02:24:29.879 --> 02:24:31.840 then when he goes back in the past, he has 2794 02:24:31.920 --> 02:24:35.200 to use lightning. So they're saying, you can actually recreate 2795 02:24:35.239 --> 02:24:39.639 it totally on your own through lightning, because like what 2796 02:24:39.760 --> 02:24:42.760 Heidi said, it's all the dream, right, So the plutonium 2797 02:24:42.920 --> 02:24:47.200 was just the trial in that time and space, but 2798 02:24:47.360 --> 02:24:52.120 once they moved through time into a different space, they 2799 02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:55.440 used a different method. I don't know, there's something really 2800 02:24:55.520 --> 02:24:58.200 metaphysically interesting now that we're all talking about this, because 2801 02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:00.600 I honestly did not catch all of this that I'm saying. 2802 02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:04.280 So don't like this is just like free range me 2803 02:25:04.520 --> 02:25:05.319 just totally. 2804 02:25:08.840 --> 02:25:11.600 Well that goes conversations, right, you know what I mean? 2805 02:25:13.680 --> 02:25:17.120 Yeah, to the two pines splitting apart because they go 2806 02:25:17.239 --> 02:25:19.799 on the journey together to try and fix the dad's life. 2807 02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:22.600 Like I've said, it's linear the whole time. And then 2808 02:25:22.719 --> 02:25:26.200 as he returns, he's the only one returning to the 2809 02:25:26.280 --> 02:25:30.000 one back to one. Same with the speedometer going back. 2810 02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:33.479 It went to one when you added him. So I 2811 02:25:33.600 --> 02:25:36.319 think I mean, for me, it's a hero's journey, all 2812 02:25:36.360 --> 02:25:38.120 of this, you know, Greek stuff, But I mean, I 2813 02:25:38.239 --> 02:25:40.000 see every other point too, So. 2814 02:25:43.360 --> 02:25:46.799 Yeah, he's the true he's like doing the Joe. I'll 2815 02:25:46.840 --> 02:25:49.879 make a warming joke, Heidi for you. He suggest of 2816 02:25:49.959 --> 02:25:53.920 the journey, right, it travels through the arc. That's what 2817 02:25:54.040 --> 02:25:57.200 the DeLorean is. It's his arc, right. Yeah, So like 2818 02:25:57.719 --> 02:26:00.760 he puts in the plutonium, like you said, is kind 2819 02:26:00.799 --> 02:26:03.040 of like the Dead Father, the corpse of the Father, 2820 02:26:03.159 --> 02:26:05.920 maybe you could say. And so they spend it. So 2821 02:26:06.000 --> 02:26:09.639 they spend his seed and then they wind up with nothing, 2822 02:26:09.719 --> 02:26:11.799 so he kind of like burns out the arc and 2823 02:26:11.879 --> 02:26:14.559 then he has to go get his friend who's the 2824 02:26:14.639 --> 02:26:19.120 god of infinite giving Jupiter Zeus, and yes, rectify it with. 2825 02:26:19.799 --> 02:26:25.200 Lightning, yes, exactly, and then they win against Kronos in time. 2826 02:26:25.760 --> 02:26:28.959 And then at the end when when they come back, well, 2827 02:26:29.079 --> 02:26:30.639 I don't know if you want me to tell this 2828 02:26:30.840 --> 02:26:32.200 now or well I was going. 2829 02:26:32.200 --> 02:26:34.040 To say, yeah, we can if we want to wrap 2830 02:26:34.159 --> 02:26:37.159 up the storyline before we get into the actual time 2831 02:26:37.239 --> 02:26:40.040 traveling device here, the Delorian, before we you know, I'm 2832 02:26:40.040 --> 02:26:42.159 going to close up some stuff around the DeLorean subject. 2833 02:26:42.200 --> 02:26:44.319 But if you want to finish up the the cult 2834 02:26:44.360 --> 02:26:46.040 stuff we're seeing the narrative, that's great. 2835 02:26:46.680 --> 02:26:47.719 So when they re enter. 2836 02:26:47.959 --> 02:26:51.040 When he comes back through, you'll see him come in 2837 02:26:51.479 --> 02:26:54.440 and the scene she showed with the fire makes a 2838 02:26:54.479 --> 02:26:55.479 piscy sign. 2839 02:26:56.120 --> 02:26:59.440 As they're coming through. And then on top of it, 2840 02:26:59.760 --> 02:27:01.159 up in the cinema. 2841 02:27:00.959 --> 02:27:05.959 Area, you'll see green lights and it's glowing, so you know, 2842 02:27:06.440 --> 02:27:10.000 with the green and the heart chakra re entrance, and 2843 02:27:10.120 --> 02:27:13.879 then on the town theater when they come back, you'll 2844 02:27:13.959 --> 02:27:17.360 see the movie has changed to an American orgy. 2845 02:27:17.479 --> 02:27:19.399 It's a sex film, so sex magic. 2846 02:27:20.319 --> 02:27:22.920 And then to the other side of it, it has 2847 02:27:23.079 --> 02:27:27.479 Jesus saves signs and all these salvation signs. So there 2848 02:27:27.639 --> 02:27:31.360 was his choice to go either again right right hand path, 2849 02:27:31.479 --> 02:27:33.920 left hand past sex magic. Are you going to be 2850 02:27:34.000 --> 02:27:36.200 the magician of your own life and creation? Or are 2851 02:27:36.280 --> 02:27:38.559 you gonna, you know, put your faith in something else? 2852 02:27:39.120 --> 02:27:41.760 And then it's it's surrounding the hole that he comes 2853 02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:43.399 to like the wa. 2854 02:27:44.000 --> 02:27:45.920 Yeah, so that's what I saw. 2855 02:27:46.120 --> 02:27:48.120 I didn't catch the I didn't catch the Mavie title 2856 02:27:48.239 --> 02:27:50.639 with that, that is very much a reference to such 2857 02:27:50.760 --> 02:27:53.600 things as sex magic, which is interesting. So back to 2858 02:27:53.680 --> 02:27:56.120 for Reacerman real quick, you just spawned a thought of mine. 2859 02:27:57.000 --> 02:27:59.840 For Reackerman, he was a literary agent for ed Wood, 2860 02:28:00.559 --> 02:28:02.680 you know, uh kind of. He was the pioneer of 2861 02:28:02.760 --> 02:28:05.200 exploit exploitation films, which was largely wow. 2862 02:28:05.639 --> 02:28:09.520 Yeah, so he uh you know, there you go with 2863 02:28:09.680 --> 02:28:13.040 these these the one from the Johnny Depp. 2864 02:28:12.920 --> 02:28:17.239 Movie, that's the precise same one, and again depth depths 2865 02:28:17.399 --> 02:28:19.959 deeply involved in the neo process and the processes who 2866 02:28:20.079 --> 02:28:24.000 popular popularized exploitation films in the seventies, such as Processed 2867 02:28:24.040 --> 02:28:26.600 Church member John Waters, Hollywood director. 2868 02:28:27.559 --> 02:28:27.959 M hmm. 2869 02:28:29.440 --> 02:28:33.600 Isn't it crazy how it's like literally every time with 2870 02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:39.120 each new episode, I learn a plethora of fucking information. 2871 02:28:39.959 --> 02:28:42.319 That's why I listen. I listened all of a cult 2872 02:28:42.360 --> 02:28:44.520 rejects when we get together, because I I know things 2873 02:28:44.559 --> 02:28:46.440 when we're talking about I'm like, I always pick up 2874 02:28:46.440 --> 02:28:47.959 other things I didn't know when I re listened to 2875 02:28:48.000 --> 02:28:48.280 it too. 2876 02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:56.000 Yeah, you selected a very s So I'll just say. 2877 02:28:55.920 --> 02:28:59.239 That now that we're talking about that scene, what are 2878 02:28:59.280 --> 02:29:01.239 your thoughts in the hope? Here go ahead, Jen. 2879 02:29:02.200 --> 02:29:04.639 No, it's just a super calistic image and it actually 2880 02:29:04.920 --> 02:29:08.639 fits really well with our discussions on Mormon magic because 2881 02:29:08.760 --> 02:29:12.520 it really is like a very good nuts ofc color. 2882 02:29:12.639 --> 02:29:14.639 But then there's also a quality of green that can 2883 02:29:14.719 --> 02:29:17.120 be hoed. This is where a lot of people get 2884 02:29:17.159 --> 02:29:20.079 confused because there's like a blue green quality also there, 2885 02:29:20.760 --> 02:29:23.079 So it can either be described as like emerald with 2886 02:29:23.200 --> 02:29:26.159 light passing through, but it can also be described as 2887 02:29:26.239 --> 02:29:29.200 blue green like turquoise. But that's really the reflection of hesse. 2888 02:29:29.440 --> 02:29:34.360 That's how it's described. So it's interesting because that's kind 2889 02:29:34.399 --> 02:29:37.760 of the hermetic journey of the whole film, right, So 2890 02:29:37.959 --> 02:29:41.280 it's kind of in one image, it kind of relays 2891 02:29:42.079 --> 02:29:44.600 a hero's journey, like does he go through the mother 2892 02:29:45.280 --> 02:29:48.600 the diamond into the splendors of light? Or does he 2893 02:29:48.719 --> 02:29:50.760 travel through the fire into the path of the Father. 2894 02:29:52.680 --> 02:29:54.840 And so you're saying he's kind of a messenger then, 2895 02:29:54.840 --> 02:29:56.799 because I was thinking, this guy's kind of a messenger 2896 02:29:56.840 --> 02:29:59.120 between all these worlds. He's always run into this dude. 2897 02:29:59.120 --> 02:29:59.680 In town. 2898 02:30:01.159 --> 02:30:02.360 Yep, yep. 2899 02:30:03.360 --> 02:30:05.719 And then in that by the cinema, it's a clearer 2900 02:30:05.840 --> 02:30:08.280 green instead of a turquoise green. It's more of a 2901 02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:12.360 brighter green where you can see the American Orgy sign 2902 02:30:13.280 --> 02:30:16.799 and the Jesus saves and all that signs. And also 2903 02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:20.200 we've got Biff before we leave him out, like Hiram 2904 02:30:20.239 --> 02:30:22.399 a Biff Well. 2905 02:30:22.680 --> 02:30:24.520 Then I was going to close out with Biff once 2906 02:30:24.559 --> 02:30:26.600 we're done with the storyline here, because he ties it 2907 02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:28.799 into the stuff with the Glorian after when we talk 2908 02:30:28.840 --> 02:30:29.959 the Glorian stuff as well. 2909 02:30:30.879 --> 02:30:32.680 Yeah, I just wanted to mention that, and that the 2910 02:30:32.760 --> 02:30:35.760 brother when you look at the photo when they're looking 2911 02:30:35.840 --> 02:30:38.399 at the picture of them disappearing, the brother's wearing a 2912 02:30:38.520 --> 02:30:39.799 Disney Mickey Mouse shirt. 2913 02:30:40.000 --> 02:30:42.040 I just had to say that since we've been talking about. 2914 02:30:43.360 --> 02:30:49.000 Yeah, well there's the m M right, Mickey Mouse, Marty mcfla, and. 2915 02:30:49.319 --> 02:30:51.239 That's all I have. I'll be quiet now. Sorry, I 2916 02:30:51.360 --> 02:30:52.079 nerd it out on this. 2917 02:30:52.440 --> 02:30:52.719 Sorry. 2918 02:30:52.840 --> 02:30:58.479 That's great, that's great and I like it. Do we 2919 02:30:58.520 --> 02:31:00.520 have any other closing commentary on the journey that he 2920 02:31:00.559 --> 02:31:02.719 took before we started closing out with bif Tain and 2921 02:31:03.040 --> 02:31:03.639 the DeLorean? 2922 02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:05.920 Oh, Dolourian, I have some stuff I could talk about 2923 02:31:05.959 --> 02:31:06.319 real quick. 2924 02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:10.079 Yeah, let's do the Dolorium. We'll roll it into fifteen 2925 02:31:10.120 --> 02:31:12.000 and how does that sound? Yeah, and we'll call and 2926 02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:13.639 and we'll call it in here after that. 2927 02:31:14.840 --> 02:31:15.319 All right? 2928 02:31:15.719 --> 02:31:16.079 What uh? 2929 02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:17.319 What are your thoughts on Deloria? 2930 02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:17.559 Nick? 2931 02:31:18.879 --> 02:31:19.000 Oh? 2932 02:31:19.079 --> 02:31:21.879 The DeLorean? Well, I mean it's more like silver, so 2933 02:31:22.000 --> 02:31:24.079 I kind of put that more with mercury lake kind 2934 02:31:24.079 --> 02:31:28.479 of like quicksilver, Uh, symbolic of the albedo stage in alchemy. 2935 02:31:29.479 --> 02:31:32.680 It's plowered by powered like Heidi had even mentioned before, 2936 02:31:32.719 --> 02:31:34.639 the plutonium Pluto god of the underworld. 2937 02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:38.159 And what was the why situation with the flex capacitor, 2938 02:31:38.200 --> 02:31:40.479 what was the significance there in to me? 2939 02:31:40.680 --> 02:31:43.239 I mean, it's the shape of the rising beast and uh, 2940 02:31:43.319 --> 02:31:49.760 when you're doing the l v X formula and uh interesting, yeah, 2941 02:31:49.959 --> 02:31:52.719 when you're actually yeah, when you're doing a ritual, there's 2942 02:31:52.760 --> 02:31:56.799 certain things that you make a y and uh yeah, 2943 02:31:56.799 --> 02:31:57.600 it's supposed. 2944 02:31:59.200 --> 02:32:00.680 Of some regards with saying yeah. 2945 02:32:00.520 --> 02:32:02.360 It's something that you will make when you're doing a ritual. 2946 02:32:04.959 --> 02:32:06.920 Then I have I mean he needs one point twenty 2947 02:32:06.920 --> 02:32:09.120 when jigawats I just found it interesting with eleven times 2948 02:32:09.159 --> 02:32:12.600 eleven does get that, you know, very gious like or 2949 02:32:12.719 --> 02:32:16.680 double poles or twin pines. I guess again, I don't know, yeah, 2950 02:32:16.840 --> 02:32:21.399 uh again, uh standles still body kind of uh you know, 2951 02:32:21.959 --> 02:32:26.399 even that look purifying mercury stage reflex reality a mirror 2952 02:32:26.520 --> 02:32:30.600 or portal I did, I mean, maybe going too far, 2953 02:32:30.719 --> 02:32:33.959 but even with the wings opening up, it's very like 2954 02:32:34.319 --> 02:32:37.680 scarblike or you know, the soul, the. 2955 02:32:37.680 --> 02:32:40.319 Gold the gold wing style. I mean, that's a very unique, 2956 02:32:40.680 --> 02:32:43.319 very neat even I mean and to all automobiles, that's 2957 02:32:43.360 --> 02:32:45.920 not a very common feature, right, So what do you 2958 02:32:45.959 --> 02:32:47.879 think the nature of that is as far as oc 2959 02:32:47.920 --> 02:32:49.159 cultism goes, I have like. 2960 02:32:49.239 --> 02:32:52.559 Horses ring or rings, the Egyptian like solar, the solar 2961 02:32:52.639 --> 02:32:55.399 disc scarrowlike kind of resurrection. 2962 02:32:56.760 --> 02:33:00.159 That's even a fallen angel, even fallen angel. 2963 02:33:00.159 --> 02:33:05.600 Clip you know, yeah, yeah, that would that would coming back, Yeah, 2964 02:33:05.639 --> 02:33:11.920 that would make sense. Yeah, yes, exactly, Yeah, totally, the 2965 02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:15.399 plutonium core against Pluto when you give the descendant to 2966 02:33:15.479 --> 02:33:22.200 the yeah, and then the flex capacitor, the y shaped sigil. Again, 2967 02:33:22.200 --> 02:33:25.479 I think the rising beast, and I've always like I 2968 02:33:25.559 --> 02:33:27.159 said that, I think the beasts without a leash is 2969 02:33:27.159 --> 02:33:29.120 pretty much just like electricity on its. 2970 02:33:29.040 --> 02:33:32.319 Own, right right, that's very that's an interesting way to 2971 02:33:32.360 --> 02:33:34.719 look at that. I guess it looks like the etymology 2972 02:33:34.719 --> 02:33:37.120 of DeLorean is related to these hills right hillside. 2973 02:33:37.159 --> 02:33:40.600 It says, think of think of what you just said, Nick, 2974 02:33:40.719 --> 02:33:43.120 electricity on its own. That's exactly what the. 2975 02:33:43.159 --> 02:33:44.520 Lighting was, yeah, exactly. 2976 02:33:44.600 --> 02:33:48.760 Yeah, so I didn't need the plutonium. It was on 2977 02:33:48.959 --> 02:33:49.319 its own. 2978 02:33:49.559 --> 02:33:53.520 Yeah, and you see that supposedly that that amount of 2979 02:33:53.680 --> 02:33:56.239 energy does equal electric bolt. I don't know if that's 2980 02:33:56.280 --> 02:33:56.639 true or not. 2981 02:33:57.799 --> 02:34:00.239 Hmm yeah yeah. 2982 02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:06.639 And even another thing, uh, the Masonic the eighth letter 2983 02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:09.399 is H, you know, and you do see that a 2984 02:34:09.479 --> 02:34:12.479 lie like with the number eighty eight, that would be 2985 02:34:12.600 --> 02:34:14.559 like h h again and that you're not even going 2986 02:34:14.600 --> 02:34:16.520 to so much with hal Hitler, but I would even 2987 02:34:16.559 --> 02:34:20.120 say that it would be like maybe the the double 2988 02:34:20.200 --> 02:34:23.200 pillars and like the pines again, the twin pines, like 2989 02:34:23.319 --> 02:34:26.959 just showing like double double stuff, and even the twin towers. 2990 02:34:27.120 --> 02:34:29.440 I even thought that that might have somehow fit in there. 2991 02:34:31.760 --> 02:34:33.799 That's a little just happy to be in my face. 2992 02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:37.600 Yeah, No, I think that makes sense. Sick because you're 2993 02:34:37.680 --> 02:34:42.200 doubling the blessings from Mercury or from Hoe to Hasse. 2994 02:34:43.040 --> 02:34:45.399 That's exactly what you're doing. You're throwing the lightning at 2995 02:34:45.440 --> 02:34:49.399 the ocean, staying and stubbling and stubling double a double 2996 02:34:49.440 --> 02:34:53.559 a double eight. Right, But it's really a reflection. So 2997 02:34:53.680 --> 02:34:56.159 are you're gonna transmute the water like you were saying 2998 02:34:56.159 --> 02:35:00.760 about alchemy? Because the film is extremely outcomical. Everything in 2999 02:35:00.799 --> 02:35:05.040 the film even flux. Flux can be alchemically linked to 3000 02:35:05.120 --> 02:35:09.040 hod or hoke ma is it is it before it's 3001 02:35:09.200 --> 02:35:14.719 used or after it's used, because actually you can reconstitute flux. 3002 02:35:15.079 --> 02:35:18.399 So that's another really interesting thing. I also nested an 3003 02:35:18.479 --> 02:35:21.680 image of that of the Deity with the serpent, which 3004 02:35:21.799 --> 02:35:24.440 reminds me of that image that Nick makes, like the 3005 02:35:24.639 --> 02:35:28.840 the why because it he also makes that, And then 3006 02:35:28.879 --> 02:35:32.120 you can also explain it with like the serpent crown 3007 02:35:32.280 --> 02:35:36.120 behind him, it's like kind of exploding into view, and 3008 02:35:36.239 --> 02:35:40.760 his body is blue, so it's kind of stainless, kind 3009 02:35:40.760 --> 02:35:44.760 of adamantine. You could say. It's interesting. I think that 3010 02:35:44.879 --> 02:35:46.879 you could make a case that, like their God is 3011 02:35:46.959 --> 02:35:49.280 really space. However you want to conceptualize that. 3012 02:35:50.239 --> 02:35:52.559 What if it's like the father's son too, Like what 3013 02:35:52.639 --> 02:35:56.399 if it's representing the two that become one because the 3014 02:35:56.520 --> 02:35:57.280 kid goes home. 3015 02:35:57.920 --> 02:35:59.879 That's why I think I have that Marty has thee 3016 02:36:00.239 --> 02:36:03.319 and the yellow at some points in my opinion, if 3017 02:36:03.360 --> 02:36:05.360 you look at Marty in the street and look at 3018 02:36:05.360 --> 02:36:07.680 a red car, it is an orange kind of looking 3019 02:36:07.799 --> 02:36:10.920 vest that really read the orange and hod and then 3020 02:36:10.959 --> 02:36:14.719 the blue. The blue close shows the prince and the 3021 02:36:14.799 --> 02:36:17.600 King at the same time, sex. 3022 02:36:17.680 --> 02:36:27.559 Sex, sex power too with orange right, passion, perfection, Yeah, I. 3023 02:36:29.440 --> 02:36:29.760 Think so. 3024 02:36:31.520 --> 02:36:33.639 Yeah, So why do y'all think they Aside from these 3025 02:36:33.639 --> 02:36:35.440 are all great details, why do you think they chose 3026 02:36:35.559 --> 02:36:37.120 this car? I mean they said it was kind of 3027 02:36:37.120 --> 02:36:39.159 because it's futuristic look, and I guess I can buy 3028 02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:41.559 that to a certain extent, But I would say. 3029 02:36:41.399 --> 02:36:45.479 It's futuristic looking, especially with the doors opening like that. 3030 02:36:45.760 --> 02:36:49.639 Sure, but I definitely lookistic. But why couldn't they just, 3031 02:36:49.760 --> 02:36:51.680 you know, church up another car that they only know 3032 02:36:51.719 --> 02:36:54.000 what I'm getting, as this was a very unique automobile. 3033 02:36:54.120 --> 02:36:57.239 Not only that was John Dolorian was not like they 3034 02:36:57.399 --> 02:36:59.719 chose this car after a time where he was already 3035 02:37:00.120 --> 02:37:04.159 he just got acquitted of those cocaine trafficking charges, right 3036 02:37:04.639 --> 02:37:07.200 this is nineteen eighty four, just gets acquitted, so he, 3037 02:37:07.479 --> 02:37:09.799 you know, right when the movies just about long. So 3038 02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:12.399 that means they wrote the film while he's on trial 3039 02:37:12.479 --> 02:37:18.879 for cocaine trafficking charges and the car me question of 3040 02:37:19.559 --> 02:37:20.079 just very. 3041 02:37:25.559 --> 02:37:28.959 JJ you cut out, Oh shoot, yes. 3042 02:37:29.280 --> 02:37:32.680 So I was saying, it's very bizarre circumstances. John Deloorian's 3043 02:37:32.719 --> 02:37:35.360 on trial while they're writing this film and getting ready 3044 02:37:35.399 --> 02:37:38.479 to start filming it. It's on trial for cocaine trafficking 3045 02:37:38.600 --> 02:37:41.600 charges that he's on trumped up charges by the FBI 3046 02:37:41.680 --> 02:37:44.159 and the DEA, So they set him up for these 3047 02:37:44.200 --> 02:37:46.719 things on a sting operation. He gets acquitted, but he 3048 02:37:46.760 --> 02:37:49.319 gets acquitted just shortly before they start filming. But meaning 3049 02:37:49.879 --> 02:37:52.399 they used a vehicle of a dude who's on trial 3050 02:37:52.479 --> 02:37:55.520 for cocaine trafficking charges in a vehicle. He only made 3051 02:37:55.600 --> 02:37:58.120 nine thousand of them, which I had already ceased production, 3052 02:37:58.360 --> 02:38:00.879 so just it seemed like an odd vehicle choice to me. 3053 02:38:01.479 --> 02:38:05.000 Well, also, you know what the last name Delarean means. 3054 02:38:05.799 --> 02:38:07.680 Hill Thought apparently, which is wild man. 3055 02:38:07.840 --> 02:38:13.200 From the Hills. Yeah, from the Hills Hill Valley. That's 3056 02:38:13.399 --> 02:38:15.879 that's why I put that in my notes. 3057 02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:19.079 But I mean, oh, I just tell that in the chat. 3058 02:38:19.239 --> 02:38:21.239 I'm going to go. But no, that's great stuff, Julia. 3059 02:38:21.200 --> 02:38:25.479 JJ, real quick before you move on. Uh, I thought 3060 02:38:25.479 --> 02:38:28.639 of the mirroring with the the Laurian. I forgot like 3061 02:38:28.680 --> 02:38:30.559 the first thing of my notes, which really made me 3062 02:38:30.879 --> 02:38:33.680 start to think. Besides Martin McFly with the MM obviously 3063 02:38:33.760 --> 02:38:34.360 for the measons. 3064 02:38:35.239 --> 02:38:35.360 Uh. 3065 02:38:35.559 --> 02:38:37.719 He wakes up at seven fifty three and back. I 3066 02:38:37.840 --> 02:38:40.200 started thinking mirroring, and I really wish I would have 3067 02:38:40.200 --> 02:38:41.760 done this with more stuff. I didn't really get a 3068 02:38:41.879 --> 02:38:45.840 chance to run everything backwards. Yeah, but three fifty seven 3069 02:38:45.959 --> 02:38:48.879 is a Masonic rich write in a ritual that William 3070 02:38:48.959 --> 02:38:52.440 Preston and Thomas Smith Webb do use in like their areas, 3071 02:38:52.479 --> 02:38:55.200 and that kind of starts getting into the Scottish rite 3072 02:38:55.239 --> 02:38:55.719 type stuff. 3073 02:38:58.239 --> 02:39:01.399 And to Julia's point or who made the point about 3074 02:39:01.399 --> 02:39:06.600 the hill Julia? And where do they build the altars 3075 02:39:06.680 --> 02:39:12.479 to their fallen angels at the high point, I mean, 3076 02:39:12.559 --> 02:39:13.120 I think. 3077 02:39:13.000 --> 02:39:15.360 They chose it for a reason. I mean the doors 3078 02:39:15.479 --> 02:39:17.719 do look futuristic, Don't get me wrong. 3079 02:39:17.760 --> 02:39:19.280 That's what I'm saying. We like that is an easy 3080 02:39:19.319 --> 02:39:21.120 cop out there, right, there's more to it, much like 3081 02:39:21.200 --> 02:39:25.559 the film. There's more of an esoteric or I think, well, 3082 02:39:25.600 --> 02:39:28.000 the pr natural and the dudes on the dudes on 3083 02:39:28.120 --> 02:39:30.840 trial for cocaine? What if what if he gets found guilty? 3084 02:39:30.840 --> 02:39:33.200 They're going to have his car in a big budget film? 3085 02:39:33.479 --> 02:39:34.159 I don't think so. 3086 02:39:34.879 --> 02:39:37.639 Yeah, but what if was he found guilty? 3087 02:39:38.840 --> 02:39:40.680 No, but that's what I'm saying. They wrote the film 3088 02:39:40.719 --> 02:39:46.159 while he was on trial. Okay, but well they started 3089 02:39:46.159 --> 02:39:48.680 filming at weeks like two maybe we'll call it ten 3090 02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:50.000 weeks after the trial ended. 3091 02:39:51.079 --> 02:39:53.760 Okay, well, what if they knew he wasn't going to 3092 02:39:54.360 --> 02:39:58.120 get convicted of anything? I know that, what if he 3093 02:39:58.280 --> 02:40:01.239 was running? What if he was read because they let 3094 02:40:01.319 --> 02:40:03.760 him off just like they did with like literally a 3095 02:40:03.840 --> 02:40:04.440 bunch of hereies. 3096 02:40:04.639 --> 02:40:08.520 Yes, but I mean whatever, they were really this guy. 3097 02:40:08.520 --> 02:40:10.879 I don't know who he pissed off, but the Feds 3098 02:40:10.959 --> 02:40:12.760 literally set him up. They brought him the deal and 3099 02:40:12.920 --> 02:40:15.040 then they videotaped him doing the deal, and that's why 3100 02:40:15.079 --> 02:40:16.799 he got off. But then a couple of years later 3101 02:40:17.120 --> 02:40:19.799 they busted in for tax evasion, so they were really 3102 02:40:19.879 --> 02:40:21.479 after old JD. 3103 02:40:21.639 --> 02:40:22.040 Here John. 3104 02:40:22.200 --> 02:40:25.159 Maybe maybe he pissed them off in some kind of way, 3105 02:40:25.200 --> 02:40:28.399 because like if you were trying to buy a Dolorean, 3106 02:40:28.559 --> 02:40:30.639 now you can't. 3107 02:40:35.280 --> 02:40:37.479 Yeah. Strangely enough, Julia, there's a he made a very 3108 02:40:37.520 --> 02:40:40.239 fine automobile apparently, because out of the nine thousand or 3109 02:40:40.239 --> 02:40:42.440 so was produced, about sixty percent are still still on 3110 02:40:42.479 --> 02:40:42.799 the road. 3111 02:40:43.760 --> 02:40:46.639 Well, what I'm saying though, is unless you're a millionaire, 3112 02:40:46.680 --> 02:40:49.319 you're not probably going to be able to just afford 3113 02:40:49.399 --> 02:40:50.760 this to ride around it. 3114 02:40:51.639 --> 02:40:53.879 No, I know, I that's a great point. I wasn't 3115 02:40:53.879 --> 02:40:55.479 saying you wrong. Yeah, it's a great point because there's 3116 02:40:55.520 --> 02:40:57.639 only nine thousand that were ever produced, and you know, 3117 02:40:57.719 --> 02:40:59.799 only about six thousand I believe exists today. But yeah, 3118 02:40:59.799 --> 02:41:01.600 you're you're paying money because of the lack of a 3119 02:41:01.719 --> 02:41:02.600 you know, supplying man. 3120 02:41:02.719 --> 02:41:05.959 Right, So well, you're paying money because everybody loves back 3121 02:41:06.000 --> 02:41:08.879 to the future, you know what I mean. 3122 02:41:10.639 --> 02:41:12.239 Everyone wants a Delarey and they want to pamp it 3123 02:41:12.319 --> 02:41:13.079 out right. 3124 02:41:13.360 --> 02:41:17.280 Yeah, they want to put the led freak light strips 3125 02:41:17.360 --> 02:41:17.559 on it. 3126 02:41:17.799 --> 02:41:21.600 Yet, what if Delaurian guy was a member of their lodge. 3127 02:41:21.680 --> 02:41:24.920 I'm just thinking totally hypothetically, okay, and so or he 3128 02:41:25.079 --> 02:41:27.239 was like a member of their faction. You could say, like, 3129 02:41:27.319 --> 02:41:28.719 I know, JJ likes that word. 3130 02:41:28.799 --> 02:41:31.600 So yeah, you're reading my mind there, Jen, I'll be 3131 02:41:31.680 --> 02:41:33.680 using your wizard skills over here, buddy. You're reading my 3132 02:41:33.760 --> 02:41:35.280 mind though, so. 3133 02:41:35.959 --> 02:41:39.360 Well, thank you. So yeah, he's a member of their fashion. 3134 02:41:39.479 --> 02:41:41.639 It doesn't matter if he gets convicted or not convicted, 3135 02:41:41.680 --> 02:41:43.719 because they're going to like give their little wink in 3136 02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:48.360 their nod to him. It's also interesting that like Delaian 3137 02:41:48.440 --> 02:41:52.520 Motor Company d m C. De lette them cough, I 3138 02:41:52.559 --> 02:41:55.959 don't know, there's something kind of interesting about that because 3139 02:41:55.959 --> 02:41:57.600 if you write it out in Hebrew, it looks like 3140 02:41:57.719 --> 02:42:02.000 seven O seven. Just saying sure is an additional way 3141 02:42:02.079 --> 02:42:04.239 to do the tamata. I'm not saying that's the proper way, 3142 02:42:04.280 --> 02:42:06.680 and just just like you know, just riffing. 3143 02:42:07.520 --> 02:42:09.639 That's good stuff. And to this comment here, that's a 3144 02:42:09.639 --> 02:42:11.440 great comment. The car turned out to suck, but it's 3145 02:42:11.760 --> 02:42:12.360 the collectors. 3146 02:42:12.399 --> 02:42:12.760 I know it. 3147 02:42:13.040 --> 02:42:15.479 Apparently mechanically it did not function well. But what I 3148 02:42:15.559 --> 02:42:17.719 was getting at was the durability and long lasting nature 3149 02:42:17.760 --> 02:42:19.559 of the body style and everything. The way they did 3150 02:42:19.600 --> 02:42:22.159 it kind of reminds me. I think Elon Musk copied 3151 02:42:22.159 --> 02:42:24.239 it for a cyber truck, right. It is like that 3152 02:42:24.360 --> 02:42:26.559 same kind of steel or whatever, or that same kind 3153 02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:28.200 of production of the body style. 3154 02:42:29.440 --> 02:42:30.879 They think they're plus ultra dude. 3155 02:42:32.239 --> 02:42:35.719 Think they're talking about factions and cults, right, Yeah, talking 3156 02:42:35.719 --> 02:42:37.639 about factions and cults right there you go, right, I 3157 02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:39.399 mean that sounds like a nice connection right there with 3158 02:42:39.520 --> 02:42:42.239 just having the same aesthetic to these automobiles they're designing. 3159 02:42:44.920 --> 02:42:49.879 Yep, they think they're the gay GAO t U right, 3160 02:42:50.040 --> 02:42:51.360 like we talked about last night. 3161 02:42:53.239 --> 02:42:56.079 For sure, so just a quick rundown on Old Dolaurian. 3162 02:42:56.120 --> 02:42:58.680 Here he gets charged October nineteenth of nineteen eighty two 3163 02:43:00.000 --> 02:43:02.760 ft nine pounds of coke. That's a lot. That's a lot. 3164 02:43:02.840 --> 02:43:04.520 He wanted to sell two hundred and twenty of them though, 3165 02:43:04.600 --> 02:43:07.079 so he was even into more of that. So again 3166 02:43:07.120 --> 02:43:09.000 the FEDS brought it to him, and the FED busted him. 3167 02:43:09.239 --> 02:43:11.399 He was pissing off to Troy by making this vehicles, 3168 02:43:11.399 --> 02:43:12.959 I think, is what it really boiled down to him 3169 02:43:13.200 --> 02:43:15.479 in one aspect at least. You know, he he was 3170 02:43:15.520 --> 02:43:17.520 a former Detroit Guy's like, I'm gonna make my own car, 3171 02:43:17.559 --> 02:43:20.280 and they're like, the hell you are, buddy. So he 3172 02:43:20.360 --> 02:43:24.000 gets to quit it on that on let's see here 3173 02:43:24.719 --> 02:43:28.120 some September twenty first, nineteen eighty five, So this movie 3174 02:43:28.200 --> 02:43:32.360 comes out, comes out. I guess really what started filming. 3175 02:43:32.399 --> 02:43:36.040 I guess in December I believe, so about three months later. 3176 02:43:36.479 --> 02:43:38.520 So you know, I think that's very interesting. And again 3177 02:43:38.840 --> 02:43:40.520 I'm sorry that we'd know. That's when he got charged 3178 02:43:40.559 --> 02:43:44.159 with the fraud stuff. He gets a quitted on August sixteenth, 3179 02:43:44.399 --> 02:43:46.639 that's right, because the movie came out July third, twenty 3180 02:43:46.760 --> 02:43:49.559 or nineteen eighty five. That makes sense. So he gets 3181 02:43:49.559 --> 02:43:52.639 a quitted on August sixteenth, nineteen eighty four, and then 3182 02:43:53.040 --> 02:43:55.760 he's charged again in September of eighty five, So they 3183 02:43:55.760 --> 02:43:57.520 were after Delaurien, right, you know what I mean, like 3184 02:43:57.639 --> 02:44:00.479 whatever this dude? Did you know? There was some some 3185 02:44:00.840 --> 02:44:04.159 uh lawfare if you will, being executed against him. 3186 02:44:04.239 --> 02:44:09.120 But what I find he was acquitted of all charges. 3187 02:44:09.840 --> 02:44:11.879 Well, yeah, they had it on videotape and there was 3188 02:44:11.920 --> 02:44:13.799 so much evidence that he was all it was all 3189 02:44:13.799 --> 02:44:15.799 in trapman, and he had some good attorneys. But then 3190 02:44:15.799 --> 02:44:18.360 and then, but did he win because then they came 3191 02:44:18.440 --> 02:44:20.399 after him, right, and then they're like, yeah, we got 3192 02:44:20.479 --> 02:44:22.639 you for fraud like months after, you know, a year 3193 02:44:22.719 --> 02:44:25.479 or so after he gets acquitted, right, So you know. 3194 02:44:26.000 --> 02:44:29.760 He said he was he was acquitted even after this 3195 02:44:29.920 --> 02:44:31.639 September nineteen eighty five. 3196 02:44:32.399 --> 02:44:33.920 No, that's a great point, That's what I'm getting at. 3197 02:44:33.920 --> 02:44:35.479 So do you really win because he's spending all this 3198 02:44:35.559 --> 02:44:38.840 money on attorneys to buy two thousand, he's got he's 3199 02:44:38.879 --> 02:44:41.719 financially bankrupt, and he's got to sell mansion. 3200 02:44:42.239 --> 02:44:44.680 It's all in who you know, right, right? 3201 02:44:45.280 --> 02:44:45.399 Right? 3202 02:44:45.479 --> 02:44:48.479 But what I'm getting is there after someone's after bankrupting 3203 02:44:48.520 --> 02:44:51.520 glory and he sells his mansion in two thousands as 3204 02:44:51.600 --> 02:44:53.879 a result of this bankruptcy. Right, we're gonna get into 3205 02:44:53.879 --> 02:44:55.879 the fIF tan and here's when I'm I'm heading here. 3206 02:44:55.959 --> 02:44:58.239 So the day he got acquitted was magic. 3207 02:44:58.280 --> 02:45:00.559 I just want to say that seven twenty one. 3208 02:45:01.879 --> 02:45:07.000 The August sixteenth, nineteen eighty four, nineteeny four is twenty two, 3209 02:45:07.639 --> 02:45:09.319 super much? Right? 3210 02:45:09.360 --> 02:45:11.440 How about September twenty first, nineteen eighty five. 3211 02:45:15.760 --> 02:45:18.239 Well, August is also the eight did you say them? 3212 02:45:19.360 --> 02:45:25.000 Yeah, eighteen sixteen, you got two eights, right, yeah, how 3213 02:45:25.040 --> 02:45:27.399 about September twenty first, nineteen eighty five. 3214 02:45:30.840 --> 02:45:36.360 I don't optional. 3215 02:45:34.200 --> 02:45:35.559 Any commentary. 3216 02:45:37.200 --> 02:45:42.280 Math, Yeah, well ninety three right right away? Yeah, and 3217 02:45:42.479 --> 02:45:49.600 what'd you say nineteen eighty five? Yes, sir, well you 3218 02:45:49.760 --> 02:45:52.840 have I mean you would be like a perfect five, right. 3219 02:45:52.879 --> 02:45:56.280 It would be like the completion of like something that 3220 02:45:56.399 --> 02:45:59.760 you've done, maybe to do some greater thing, because you 3221 02:45:59.799 --> 02:46:01.920 all want to try and go up to seven. That's 3222 02:46:01.959 --> 02:46:05.120 the idea, so you use like maybe a launching pad. 3223 02:46:06.360 --> 02:46:08.000 That'd be a good date for like some of the 3224 02:46:08.120 --> 02:46:09.479 new venture. You could say. 3225 02:46:10.680 --> 02:46:17.280 Yeah, so so that's uh, that former estate there you 3226 02:46:17.360 --> 02:46:19.920 see now is the clubhouse of the Trump National Bedminster 3227 02:46:20.040 --> 02:46:23.079 golf Course and the Prime Residency. Trump calls it his 3228 02:46:23.120 --> 02:46:26.600 summer white House Prime Residency that he established there in 3229 02:46:26.639 --> 02:46:28.959 his first term between May and September. That's where he 3230 02:46:29.040 --> 02:46:31.799 normally lives during those months. But I'm saying that's that's 3231 02:46:31.920 --> 02:46:34.719 what he called the summer white House there. That house 3232 02:46:34.799 --> 02:46:40.120 right there used to be John Delauriance. So after getting now, 3233 02:46:40.200 --> 02:46:41.879 I can't make this ship up. It's for all those 3234 02:46:41.920 --> 02:46:44.799 damn UFO sidings in New Jersey. I mean to holler 3235 02:46:44.879 --> 02:46:46.959 there as well. I'm getting a little a little too 3236 02:46:47.040 --> 02:46:49.239 wild there. This is where all those UFO sidings in 3237 02:46:49.319 --> 02:46:53.120 New Jersey were over Trump's, over Delorian's property, which is 3238 02:46:53.200 --> 02:46:54.120 now Trump's property. 3239 02:46:54.840 --> 02:46:55.719 Are you serious? 3240 02:46:56.520 --> 02:46:58.360 Right right over right over it? 3241 02:46:58.879 --> 02:47:00.959 Not all that FOE sidings. 3242 02:47:01.559 --> 02:47:03.680 Well, those drone those weird drone startings, there was a 3243 02:47:03.760 --> 02:47:05.799 high concentration of them in New Jersey that were going 3244 02:47:05.879 --> 02:47:08.879 over Bedminster, the former property of the Dory in the 3245 02:47:08.920 --> 02:47:09.920 current property of Trump. 3246 02:47:10.799 --> 02:47:15.319 Wow, Yeah, it was weird. 3247 02:47:16.799 --> 02:47:18.559 So it makes sense from the numbers. 3248 02:47:19.559 --> 02:47:21.799 What's that gening makes sense to what the numbers. 3249 02:47:21.559 --> 02:47:24.399 Summoning that, Like Heidi always says, like there's some they're 3250 02:47:24.440 --> 02:47:27.000 playing with angels. That's that's exactly what it is, and 3251 02:47:27.120 --> 02:47:30.360 that like or they or they're playing with going away 3252 02:47:30.719 --> 02:47:33.879 like an angel, like how the movie describes it's like 3253 02:47:34.000 --> 02:47:36.399 the same. It's like two different ideas, like do you 3254 02:47:36.440 --> 02:47:38.239 believe in the other power or do you believe in 3255 02:47:38.280 --> 02:47:40.639 the self power? Exactly what Heidi said. I'm just seeing 3256 02:47:40.639 --> 02:47:43.559 a different way to describe it. So it is exactly 3257 02:47:43.639 --> 02:47:45.440 do you believe in the angels or do you believe 3258 02:47:45.479 --> 02:47:49.799 in yourself? There's two different schools of thinking, two different factions. 3259 02:47:50.360 --> 02:47:53.920 So that that's an interesting idea because it's like the 3260 02:47:54.040 --> 02:47:57.360 Trump connection is really interesting. The just all of this, 3261 02:47:57.559 --> 02:48:00.639 it's just so fascinating, Like the whole whole film is 3262 02:48:00.799 --> 02:48:05.680 like very much deeper than its outer presentation. And maybe 3263 02:48:05.799 --> 02:48:09.239 that's also like a credit to its success because it 3264 02:48:10.120 --> 02:48:14.239 it it's not like, you know, sometimes the magical works, 3265 02:48:14.319 --> 02:48:16.760 they work and sometimes they don't. That's kind of the idea, 3266 02:48:16.840 --> 02:48:19.600 so that sometimes they are successful and bear fruit and 3267 02:48:19.680 --> 02:48:22.840 sometimes they don't. But like this film sort of bears 3268 02:48:23.040 --> 02:48:27.159 endless fruit in a way very double hates that's right, 3269 02:48:27.239 --> 02:48:29.760 because it kind of like it keeps Michael J. Fox 3270 02:48:29.879 --> 02:48:33.559 perpetually famous even though he retired like twenty years ago. 3271 02:48:34.000 --> 02:48:38.360 He's perpetually. He'll be famous long after he's like an 3272 02:48:38.440 --> 02:48:40.440 old man because of his film. 3273 02:48:41.399 --> 02:48:44.879 Yeah, it's definitely not because of Teen Wolf. I'm telling 3274 02:48:44.959 --> 02:48:45.639 you that right now. 3275 02:48:48.719 --> 02:48:49.120 I don't. 3276 02:48:49.479 --> 02:48:52.120 I'm just saying to the Back to the Future is 3277 02:48:52.559 --> 02:48:57.520 is like what it put saled him off into infamy? 3278 02:48:58.120 --> 02:49:00.399 Oh it does. It doesn't compare between the city and 3279 02:49:00.440 --> 02:49:02.399 doesn't compare. But still a fine film. 3280 02:49:02.920 --> 02:49:03.840 You do find the. 3281 02:49:04.000 --> 02:49:08.280 FBI informant on the Dolorean case thing. His last name 3282 02:49:08.399 --> 02:49:10.000 was Hoffman, which made me giggle. 3283 02:49:10.239 --> 02:49:13.239 Oh, well, that's yeah, I've dug into that dude's past. 3284 02:49:13.280 --> 02:49:15.319 He was doing some I ran concerence spoking for the 3285 02:49:15.360 --> 02:49:17.239 FEDS and the DA back in the mid seventies. So 3286 02:49:17.280 --> 02:49:19.719 that's how he became an informant. So I got a 3287 02:49:19.760 --> 02:49:21.600 lot to unpack with that because I got some cocaine 3288 02:49:21.639 --> 02:49:24.280 Bob connections involved in that. Next month, Oh boy, topic 3289 02:49:24.399 --> 02:49:27.920 for a different day, Yeah, for sure, for a different day. 3290 02:49:28.920 --> 02:49:32.360 The well, cocaine, like you say, JJ, cocaine seems to 3291 02:49:32.520 --> 02:49:36.079 drive a lot of these kinds of protects, and cocaine 3292 02:49:36.360 --> 02:49:38.799 is a very mercurial substance, Like if you were to 3293 02:49:38.959 --> 02:49:41.520 mop it out in Kabala would be a very hard 3294 02:49:41.600 --> 02:49:47.520 substance because it requires fire from government, don't. 3295 02:49:47.639 --> 02:49:49.920 You ain't kidding? I mean that's for sure. So uh 3296 02:49:50.440 --> 02:49:52.959 we can transition here on the fifteen and who is 3297 02:49:53.040 --> 02:49:56.079 based on Donald Trump as the man who was owning 3298 02:49:56.280 --> 02:49:58.719 the owner now of the old Dolorian estate the five 3299 02:49:58.840 --> 02:50:03.159 hundred and thirty five acres a formerly known as as 3300 02:50:03.200 --> 02:50:06.440 the Delarey in the state. Again, it's a fantastic place, 3301 02:50:06.520 --> 02:50:09.959 the summer White House where Trump uh trump uh In fact, 3302 02:50:10.440 --> 02:50:13.319 moments after he left Pennsylvania there in July was at 3303 02:50:13.319 --> 02:50:16.559 fourteenth twenty twenty four when he got the assassination attempted 3304 02:50:16.639 --> 02:50:21.360 Butler Pa. He went directly to his Badminster property, just 3305 02:50:21.440 --> 02:50:25.399 saying he likes he likes that place. 3306 02:50:26.280 --> 02:50:30.000 Maybe that the fallen angels held his ear there you go. 3307 02:50:30.799 --> 02:50:33.120 Maybe the drone UFO aliens got him, maybe they helped 3308 02:50:33.200 --> 02:50:38.399 him out them in JFK Junior, you. 3309 02:50:38.399 --> 02:50:40.200 Know, there was somebody who showed that those things like 3310 02:50:40.319 --> 02:50:42.280 flew out like right near like a Boeing plan. 3311 02:50:44.159 --> 02:50:44.360 Yeah. 3312 02:50:45.000 --> 02:50:47.799 No, for sure, there's some weird stuff. I mean it 3313 02:50:47.879 --> 02:50:49.840 was all hot news and then now it's not. And no, 3314 02:50:49.879 --> 02:50:51.920 one really explained it. It was shining, it was Iran, 3315 02:50:52.000 --> 02:50:54.280 it was nothing, it was ours. I mean, I mean, 3316 02:50:54.280 --> 02:50:56.280 I think that's all part of a distraction from whatever 3317 02:50:56.399 --> 02:50:58.280 what it really was, right in which we don't really 3318 02:50:58.360 --> 02:51:01.840 know and did it didn't not. Again, it was over 3319 02:51:01.920 --> 02:51:03.959 a lot, over different parts of New Jersey, but there 3320 02:51:04.040 --> 02:51:07.399 was a pocket where the concentration was for weeks. Donald 3321 02:51:07.399 --> 02:51:09.399 Trump did a press conference about it during the election 3322 02:51:09.479 --> 02:51:11.920 and during his campaign, like, you know, someone really needs 3323 02:51:11.920 --> 02:51:14.159 to check this out. I've had these drones over my 3324 02:51:14.239 --> 02:51:16.079 property for two weeks. This seems to be a national 3325 02:51:16.120 --> 02:51:22.360 security issue or something. He says, so very very wild stuff. 3326 02:51:22.399 --> 02:51:25.360 If you asked me so Bif Tanner, based on Donald 3327 02:51:25.399 --> 02:51:28.159 Trump there, what what are your thoughts on him as 3328 02:51:28.159 --> 02:51:28.600 a character. 3329 02:51:31.520 --> 02:51:33.239 Well, he's just a dick. 3330 02:51:34.399 --> 02:51:37.280 He's just that's true. That's true. 3331 02:51:37.360 --> 02:51:40.360 And he's not and he's like the proverbi. He's like 3332 02:51:40.520 --> 02:51:44.120 not even a smart dick. He's just a retarded dick. 3333 02:51:44.639 --> 02:51:47.479 And he's like a tree and get out of. 3334 02:51:47.559 --> 02:51:50.879 Here, right, And he's kind of that's right, and he's 3335 02:51:50.959 --> 02:51:54.520 kind of like he's like quantum entangled with Marty mcflys. Uh, 3336 02:51:54.840 --> 02:51:59.520 you know, a family tree, right, yeah, that's. 3337 02:51:59.440 --> 02:52:01.399 Just like what I high do you mix that that 3338 02:52:01.520 --> 02:52:04.239 they have to play each other's like opposing role. 3339 02:52:04.799 --> 02:52:06.959 Because every time he goes back before it in time, 3340 02:52:07.000 --> 02:52:08.360 he's got a new Biff, and he's got a new 3341 02:52:08.399 --> 02:52:09.000 Biff to handle. 3342 02:52:09.639 --> 02:52:10.760 Mm hmmm hmm. 3343 02:52:12.559 --> 02:52:16.559 Kind of reminds me of the Butterfly effect. That's another 3344 02:52:16.639 --> 02:52:21.319 movie I really love and uh, would you. 3345 02:52:21.319 --> 02:52:22.680 Say nicked Out? 3346 02:52:24.239 --> 02:52:26.639 Oh yeah, no, dude, that that's that could be another 3347 02:52:26.719 --> 02:52:28.200 episode in itself. 3348 02:52:28.360 --> 02:52:31.959 But it's like every time Marty goes back or forward, he. 3349 02:52:32.000 --> 02:52:34.680 Gets a new Biff and it's like he's still just 3350 02:52:34.799 --> 02:52:37.520 as awful as ever, but just in different ways. He 3351 02:52:37.680 --> 02:52:42.159 Butterfly affects him throughout. It's like he's still a dick, 3352 02:52:42.520 --> 02:52:46.040 it's just different variations of what kind of dicky is like. 3353 02:52:46.239 --> 02:52:49.799 Through just too McFly. It's to his parents, right, he's 3354 02:52:49.840 --> 02:52:53.399 got a whole thing with the Antagon, this thing with 3355 02:52:53.479 --> 02:52:56.559 George McFly, So he's like he's just the dude. He's 3356 02:52:56.559 --> 02:52:59.319 always there, you know, beefing mm hmmmm. 3357 02:53:00.840 --> 02:53:03.719 I will say though, in the second movie, the old 3358 02:53:03.879 --> 02:53:08.280 Man Biff is a lot more intelligent than this one 3359 02:53:08.360 --> 02:53:10.840 that we got pulled up because he's like he wants 3360 02:53:10.959 --> 02:53:14.520 to rig the sports and stuff like that, so he 3361 02:53:14.600 --> 02:53:15.799 becomes the billionaire. 3362 02:53:17.639 --> 02:53:19.840 Of course, there's the masonic nature of Hira a Biff, right, 3363 02:53:19.920 --> 02:53:20.879 Like how he was saying. 3364 02:53:20.639 --> 02:53:26.040 Before, mm hmmm, Well, isn't there something about like Trump's 3365 02:53:26.239 --> 02:53:29.360 family being connected with Tesla and they were working on 3366 02:53:29.479 --> 02:53:31.040 some kind of time travel thing? 3367 02:53:32.120 --> 02:53:38.239 Like I love that. Yeah, so that's to go with 3368 02:53:38.680 --> 02:53:43.239 So Tesla uncle John was his understudy, and then you 3369 02:53:43.399 --> 02:53:45.559 get to Van olver Bush and this goes into a 3370 02:53:45.639 --> 02:53:48.639 hole like I'll be short because I've talked way too 3371 02:53:48.680 --> 02:53:53.520 much tonight. But yes, he supposedly possibly got Tesla's papers. However, 3372 02:53:54.120 --> 02:53:56.559 there's an argument whether he ever wrote a paper because 3373 02:53:56.639 --> 02:53:57.719 he memorized everything. 3374 02:53:57.879 --> 02:54:01.200 So it's a little shady there, but that that's basically 3375 02:54:01.799 --> 02:54:03.920 you know, they talked Maro Largo and they were looking 3376 02:54:04.000 --> 02:54:06.840 for something. So I'm just saying, I don't know. 3377 02:54:06.920 --> 02:54:09.879 I had only heard about it, like on on a 3378 02:54:10.200 --> 02:54:14.479 very surface level, that there was something about Trump and Tesla. 3379 02:54:15.040 --> 02:54:19.000 And then if that's true and this character is based 3380 02:54:19.079 --> 02:54:25.280 off of like his archetype, the Trump archetype, it makes 3381 02:54:25.399 --> 02:54:27.440 it would make a lot of sense, especially like in 3382 02:54:27.559 --> 02:54:30.360 the second movie with like the Biff Tower or whatever, 3383 02:54:30.639 --> 02:54:32.959 and the sure the weirdness with that. 3384 02:54:33.760 --> 02:54:35.000 No, it's and it's definitely true. 3385 02:54:35.040 --> 02:54:35.239 It was. 3386 02:54:35.360 --> 02:54:39.159 It was Uh, it was not unclassified for four years, 3387 02:54:39.200 --> 02:54:41.799 but it was a John G. Trump was the top 3388 02:54:41.920 --> 02:54:44.520 physicist at m I t was the longest serving professor. 3389 02:54:44.760 --> 02:54:46.479 You know, and him and you will see plenty of 3390 02:54:47.079 --> 02:54:49.799 interviews where Trump talks about his relationship with his uncle. 3391 02:54:50.440 --> 02:54:54.559 Oh, he flexes on that hardcore. He's like my uncle John. 3392 02:54:54.680 --> 02:54:57.399 Whenever he wants to push something and f with everybody, 3393 02:54:57.479 --> 02:55:00.680 He's like my uncle John and papers. 3394 02:55:01.399 --> 02:55:03.600 He knows what buttons to push, he knows what he's doing. 3395 02:55:04.600 --> 02:55:07.399 I hate to say it, but I give him an 3396 02:55:07.559 --> 02:55:12.840 A plus A plus for disgrace nuclear physicist. 3397 02:55:13.280 --> 02:55:14.799 He's the best you've ever seen. 3398 02:55:16.040 --> 02:55:19.440 And do we know that's that's a good does a 3399 02:55:19.479 --> 02:55:21.920 good trouve repression. But I just want to I just 3400 02:55:22.040 --> 02:55:24.040 wanted to ask if you all any more commentary here 3401 02:55:24.040 --> 02:55:26.920 on Biff before we get too long in the matters. 3402 02:55:27.200 --> 02:55:32.959 Yeah, I do fuck Biff his character and get out 3403 02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:35.719 of here. Yeah, I want. I want Biff to make 3404 02:55:35.840 --> 02:55:37.440 like a tree and get out of here. 3405 02:55:38.120 --> 02:55:40.680 Believe well, I did think it was funny that they 3406 02:55:40.799 --> 02:55:42.920 covered him in ship and I do think that the 3407 02:55:43.000 --> 02:55:45.319 whole darkness I could have gone into a whole thing. 3408 02:55:45.399 --> 02:55:46.799 But I talked a lot tonight, so. 3409 02:55:48.680 --> 02:55:52.600 That's good. The ship thing isn't is honest, legit interesting 3410 02:55:52.639 --> 02:55:55.559 From a metaphysical perspective, it's kind of it was like 3411 02:55:55.680 --> 02:56:00.520 public humiliation almost. I'm not saying humiliation ritual nick I 3412 02:56:00.639 --> 02:56:04.239 was saying. I'm saying that it was like a public humiliation. 3413 02:56:04.479 --> 02:56:07.520 Like it was like he's tard and feathered. He is 3414 02:56:07.559 --> 02:56:11.120 the chicken, he has to start again. And Biff is 3415 02:56:11.239 --> 02:56:14.760 never like there's nothing redeemable about him in any of 3416 02:56:14.840 --> 02:56:18.920 the films, in any moment. Like he's not funny, he's 3417 02:56:19.000 --> 02:56:22.559 not charming, he's not like the Trump. 3418 02:56:22.399 --> 02:56:24.840 That we see right, like that he's a rapist. 3419 02:56:25.840 --> 02:56:28.639 Yeah well yeah, he's an attempted like assaulter. 3420 02:56:29.520 --> 02:56:33.959 And he's gigantic like back at like possible following angel stuff, 3421 02:56:34.000 --> 02:56:35.040 but like yeah. 3422 02:56:37.399 --> 02:56:41.360 Plus ultra right, Like they believe that Tesla was like 3423 02:56:41.479 --> 02:56:46.799 the one magician to follow. He was like there, I'm sorry, Heidi, 3424 02:56:46.840 --> 02:56:47.319 I forget that. 3425 02:56:48.920 --> 02:56:51.120 You're telling me, Jim, Yeah yeah. 3426 02:56:51.120 --> 02:56:54.159 Like and they're going in different directions, different factions, they 3427 02:56:54.280 --> 02:56:58.959 follow different leaders. One follows Crowley one follows. You know, 3428 02:56:59.000 --> 02:57:00.000 there's the weight. 3429 02:57:01.360 --> 02:57:04.120 Well, and he has always the people behind him backing him, 3430 02:57:04.239 --> 02:57:06.559 like you know Trump has had the Mob and Cone 3431 02:57:06.680 --> 02:57:09.639 and you know, lots of people that helped him get 3432 02:57:09.680 --> 02:57:12.000 where he is. I mean, he came up from the 3433 02:57:12.120 --> 02:57:15.040 depths of shit, is what you know. 3434 02:57:15.799 --> 02:57:17.600 Well, I'm glad you point out the rape, the rape 3435 02:57:17.639 --> 02:57:19.879 part two with this character. He's kind of rapial Biff 3436 02:57:20.079 --> 02:57:24.479 and there is an element to it, right with this 3437 02:57:24.639 --> 02:57:27.079 with his character, but there's an underlying kind of rape 3438 02:57:27.079 --> 02:57:28.920 element to the whole film if you asked me. And 3439 02:57:29.000 --> 02:57:31.760 that was one of the apparent contentions as we mentioned earlier, 3440 02:57:31.879 --> 02:57:34.760 with Crispin Glover not returning to the film there in 3441 02:57:34.879 --> 02:57:37.559 number two and suing them when they use his likeness, 3442 02:57:37.600 --> 02:57:39.360 and he's got a big beef about all those things. 3443 02:57:40.040 --> 02:57:42.440 But that really does kind of there is kind of 3444 02:57:42.479 --> 02:57:46.040 that esoteric understanding to this whole situation based if his 3445 02:57:46.120 --> 02:57:50.799 statements are true, which I'll do a quick recap on 3446 02:57:50.920 --> 02:57:53.280 that here. If we're done with the character of Biff 3447 02:57:56.959 --> 02:57:59.760 so on crazy days and nights, which you know, take 3448 02:57:59.799 --> 02:58:01.600 it for much you will. This guy's got a lot 3449 02:58:01.680 --> 02:58:03.239 of He's got a long record of being right on 3450 02:58:03.239 --> 02:58:06.479 a lot of things before it's public, this entertainment lawyer fellow, 3451 02:58:07.440 --> 02:58:13.280 but back in twenty eighteen August seventeenth, twenty eighteen, he's 3452 02:58:13.639 --> 02:58:19.360 discussing the why the Chrispin Glover and the actress who 3453 02:58:19.360 --> 02:58:22.479 played Jennifer there did not return to the film. This actor, 3454 02:58:22.559 --> 02:58:26.840 who has never probably eclipsed B plus lists, was portrayed 3455 02:58:26.840 --> 02:58:30.040 as a troublemaker for spreading the truth. He was effectively 3456 02:58:30.120 --> 02:58:32.959 blacklisted by any and all people who were friends with 3457 02:58:33.040 --> 02:58:37.120 the producers. Again, Lucas Spielberg semechis, I mean that's most 3458 02:58:37.159 --> 02:58:40.239 of Hollywood, and the entertainment lawyer says, that's seventy five percent. 3459 02:58:41.319 --> 02:58:44.079 That sounds about right. There was a group through though, 3460 02:58:44.159 --> 02:58:46.600 that were not friends with those producers. They have kept 3461 02:58:46.639 --> 02:58:48.639 the actor at least earning enough to make a living, 3462 02:58:48.719 --> 02:58:50.840 and that's accurate. He played some bit roles in smaller 3463 02:58:50.920 --> 02:58:54.040 roles in things including the antagonist or the villain, and 3464 02:58:54.120 --> 02:58:55.920 Charlie's Angels being one of the bigger ones that he 3465 02:58:56.040 --> 02:58:59.440 was offered, you know, many years after, you know, back 3466 02:58:59.440 --> 02:59:01.559 to future, I would say he's a pretty good actor, right, I. 3467 02:59:01.760 --> 02:59:02.799 Tend to like I love him. 3468 02:59:03.840 --> 02:59:04.399 I love him. 3469 02:59:04.520 --> 02:59:05.639 I think he's so funny. 3470 02:59:06.639 --> 02:59:08.319 Kind of annoyed him now when he started the Smiley 3471 02:59:08.360 --> 02:59:12.120 Face Killer film by Brendyson Ellis, who wrote American Psychode. 3472 02:59:12.120 --> 02:59:16.920 But that's a different story altogether. So it says the 3473 02:59:17.120 --> 02:59:19.079 entertaining tament. Lawyer goes on to say, I can't even 3474 02:59:19.120 --> 02:59:20.920 watch the film any longer because of what I know 3475 02:59:21.079 --> 02:59:23.479 what was happening on the set. The actor said the 3476 02:59:23.600 --> 02:59:25.719 multiple bedrooms used in scenes in the film, so the 3477 02:59:25.920 --> 02:59:28.040 scenes from the film would often smell of cigars and 3478 02:59:28.120 --> 02:59:30.840 booze because that is often where the producers would take 3479 02:59:30.840 --> 02:59:33.520 the boys after their tour of the set, and they're 3480 02:59:33.600 --> 02:59:36.920 quote their jan Waite for quote unquote tour of the set. 3481 02:59:37.600 --> 02:59:40.079 Our actor also says that every other actor on that 3482 02:59:40.200 --> 02:59:42.559 film set knew what was going on, but they valued 3483 02:59:42.600 --> 02:59:46.639 their careers more than the horrors taking place. So that's 3484 02:59:46.680 --> 02:59:49.360 why apparently those two decided not to leave. Again, this 3485 02:59:49.600 --> 02:59:52.200 was made by you. We were mentioning the Steven Spielberg 3486 02:59:52.239 --> 02:59:54.120 gets ambling entertainment. So he was in charge of this 3487 02:59:54.239 --> 02:59:58.360 operation along with Zamechus and Lucas wasn't necessiately involved, but 3488 02:59:58.360 --> 02:59:59.760 he's you know, he's part of their same mix with 3489 02:59:59.799 --> 03:00:03.319 these I don't know where he was necessarily, but I'm 3490 03:00:03.399 --> 03:00:05.399 just saying they socially speaking, they were probably hanging out 3491 03:00:05.440 --> 03:00:08.520 still even while the film was going right. But you know, 3492 03:00:08.559 --> 03:00:11.000 it's a very very odd environment. We see Crispin Glover. 3493 03:00:11.200 --> 03:00:12.840 I got a quick clip to show you kind of 3494 03:00:12.879 --> 03:00:14.719 how he feels about this stuff today. 3495 03:00:15.959 --> 03:00:18.680 I did not do anything illegal. Bob Gail did something like, 3496 03:00:19.040 --> 03:00:21.600 we didn't do anything that was illegal. In the ever 3497 03:00:21.680 --> 03:00:25.280 twisting corridors of Hollywood history, one of tinsel Town's most 3498 03:00:25.360 --> 03:00:29.000 intriguing tales is the legal drama surrounding Crispin Glover and 3499 03:00:29.159 --> 03:00:30.479 Back to the Future Part two. 3500 03:00:33.719 --> 03:00:35.799 So obviously he's talking about using his likeness where he 3501 03:00:35.840 --> 03:00:38.559 fantasy sued them and was successful in that effort, and 3502 03:00:38.600 --> 03:00:40.680 that was kind of a landmark issue. But with the 3503 03:00:40.799 --> 03:00:43.879 anger in Visrael, you see Crispin Glover in an interview 3504 03:00:43.920 --> 03:00:46.639 from recent years. I think it's rooted more in that 3505 03:00:46.799 --> 03:00:49.479 letter you were talking about it earlier, Julia, which is hmm, 3506 03:00:49.799 --> 03:00:51.520 I will include in the show notes. But I had 3507 03:00:51.559 --> 03:00:53.920 to go back to locate. I had to go back 3508 03:00:53.920 --> 03:00:54.840 to the wayback machine. 3509 03:00:55.559 --> 03:00:58.799 Mm hmmm, yeah, I mean it's it's buried and he 3510 03:00:58.920 --> 03:01:05.479 talks about Steven Spielberg on, he goes, he goes, he. 3511 03:01:05.520 --> 03:01:08.639 Goes pretty, he goes pretty tough on Spielberg, here. 3512 03:01:08.559 --> 03:01:12.040 Doesn't he Yeah, he does, he does, he does, he does. 3513 03:01:12.200 --> 03:01:15.040 If you ever saw the picture of Steven Spielberg with 3514 03:01:15.280 --> 03:01:16.879 the little Poultergeist girl on. 3515 03:01:16.959 --> 03:01:21.120 His lap, you will have no questions, right right, And 3516 03:01:21.280 --> 03:01:28.239 she died like a bell obstruction. Yeah, that's what they said. 3517 03:01:28.479 --> 03:01:29.719 That's what they said. 3518 03:01:30.440 --> 03:01:34.879 Well, if there was traumatic injury there where. 3519 03:01:34.719 --> 03:01:38.000 She couldn't yeah, but that they said that she that 3520 03:01:38.200 --> 03:01:42.760 she had like a congested colon and that way that 3521 03:01:42.959 --> 03:01:45.120 she got backed up, and that's what But it's like, 3522 03:01:45.239 --> 03:01:48.799 come on, now, I agree. 3523 03:01:48.479 --> 03:01:51.680 And I and Steven Spielberg got so many dark tales. 3524 03:01:51.680 --> 03:01:53.440 I was, you know, I was gonna say, maybe we'll 3525 03:01:53.479 --> 03:01:56.040 have to discuss that one, you know, collectively here in 3526 03:01:56.079 --> 03:01:57.680 the future, because I think we all have some. But 3527 03:01:57.760 --> 03:02:03.520 it sounds like, well, I think it's I think, well, 3528 03:02:03.680 --> 03:02:04.920 hold on, when I think of well, when I think 3529 03:02:04.959 --> 03:02:08.159 it's Drew Barrymore, this is also my same reaction Scott 3530 03:02:10.079 --> 03:02:13.479 Drew Barrymore was doing coke and drinking at Studio fifty nine. 3531 03:02:13.840 --> 03:02:15.760 I mean, yeah, I don't know Spielberg was there, but 3532 03:02:16.520 --> 03:02:19.600 some of the other characters in this old Donald Trump, right. 3533 03:02:20.120 --> 03:02:22.319 Yeah, some girls person was there for sure. 3534 03:02:22.360 --> 03:02:25.479 Shed This is this is the era of when Rokee 3535 03:02:25.559 --> 03:02:28.719 Roy cohnees basically running Studio fifty four because the owners 3536 03:02:28.719 --> 03:02:31.600 are so in debt to him for legal services to 3537 03:02:31.639 --> 03:02:33.319 stay out of jail and keep the place open that 3538 03:02:33.399 --> 03:02:35.520 he's kind of running that spot by that point. 3539 03:02:35.639 --> 03:02:36.120 Oh yeah. 3540 03:02:36.360 --> 03:02:38.799 The only reason I bring her up is because a 3541 03:02:38.879 --> 03:02:43.040 fire starter in et both Steven Spielberg. 3542 03:02:43.280 --> 03:02:45.479 Right, And that's what I'm saying. They got up seventy 3543 03:02:45.520 --> 03:02:47.840 eight back there Studio fifty four on some coke and 3544 03:02:47.920 --> 03:02:50.280 some benzos and some alcohol and whatnot. By the time 3545 03:02:50.799 --> 03:02:53.879 she met Spielberg, he was like, He's like, yep, Jack thought, 3546 03:02:54.559 --> 03:02:57.440 mm hmmmmm, sad. 3547 03:02:58.600 --> 03:03:04.040 Do you have drums? By the way, the clip, the clip. 3548 03:03:05.639 --> 03:03:06.120 I enjoyed. 3549 03:03:07.319 --> 03:03:08.680 It was better without the sound. 3550 03:03:09.040 --> 03:03:09.479 I think that. 3551 03:03:10.200 --> 03:03:11.680 I think Julian narrating it was. 3552 03:03:11.799 --> 03:03:14.239 Actually thank you. 3553 03:03:14.399 --> 03:03:15.280 I appreciate that. 3554 03:03:15.559 --> 03:03:18.959 I appreciate that. Let me make one more note on it. 3555 03:03:19.040 --> 03:03:19.920 We'll go ahead, go ahead. 3556 03:03:20.479 --> 03:03:22.559 Oh, I was gonna say I had I had just 3557 03:03:22.680 --> 03:03:26.200 a funny pop culture reference to Back to the Future. 3558 03:03:26.280 --> 03:03:32.120 You guys might remember did. Have you guys watched Knocked Up? 3559 03:03:32.680 --> 03:03:36.920 It's it's got like seth Rogen and what's her face 3560 03:03:37.000 --> 03:03:40.879 in it? Where she gets pregnant and whatever. Paul Redd 3561 03:03:40.959 --> 03:03:44.959 is in it and they go to like this dinner whatever, 3562 03:03:45.280 --> 03:03:47.639 and Paul Redd is like, you know, if Doc Brown 3563 03:03:47.760 --> 03:03:50.520 screeched up in the Dolorean right now, would you go 3564 03:03:50.680 --> 03:03:53.479 back and put a condom on Ben's stick? And they 3565 03:03:53.600 --> 03:03:56.719 act like Catherine Heigel and the other chick don't know 3566 03:03:56.840 --> 03:03:58.639 what Back to the Future is. They were like, you 3567 03:03:58.680 --> 03:03:59.360 don't know who. 3568 03:03:59.319 --> 03:04:00.479 Doc Brown is? 3569 03:04:01.040 --> 03:04:04.920 And yeah, I was like, who the fuck wouldn't know 3570 03:04:05.639 --> 03:04:08.440 what back to Like, I'm not believing that for a 3571 03:04:08.600 --> 03:04:10.840 fucking second that they didn't know what Back to the 3572 03:04:10.920 --> 03:04:11.479 Future was. 3573 03:04:12.239 --> 03:04:14.719 But that's a good example of how culturally impactful this 3574 03:04:14.840 --> 03:04:15.959 has been, right M. 3575 03:04:17.680 --> 03:04:19.159 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 3576 03:04:19.319 --> 03:04:22.200 I just mentioned that because I watched that movie the 3577 03:04:22.280 --> 03:04:24.040 other day and then you asked me to do this 3578 03:04:24.159 --> 03:04:26.639 and I was like, dude, everybody loves Back to the Future. 3579 03:04:26.559 --> 03:04:30.280 Right, So well, I mean, I don't know if Christin 3580 03:04:30.319 --> 03:04:33.280 Glover does, but I do love the film. I know, 3581 03:04:33.479 --> 03:04:35.159 I know what you mean. I know what you mean. 3582 03:04:35.559 --> 03:04:37.719 So on this nature though of this, Christin Glover in 3583 03:04:37.760 --> 03:04:42.120 Spielberg situations and the parent kduling situations. There's in the 3584 03:04:42.239 --> 03:04:44.639 rapist you know, rape ee qualities of old beif tain 3585 03:04:44.719 --> 03:04:46.920 and you know there's a there's a nature of again 3586 03:04:47.000 --> 03:04:49.639 still underlying in this film that continues to perpetrate these 3587 03:04:49.639 --> 03:04:51.719 same ideas. If you ask me, and I'll play this 3588 03:04:51.799 --> 03:05:01.680 clip to demonstrate that point, because it is Barry. 3589 03:05:02.479 --> 03:05:06.399 You know that no sound to me. 3590 03:05:11.040 --> 03:05:13.840 So that cousin obviously being Chuck Berry. The song that 3591 03:05:13.959 --> 03:05:17.079 old Johnny be Good? Then Michael J. Fox was playing 3592 03:05:17.159 --> 03:05:19.719 right so in a forest Gump effect, and another's is 3593 03:05:19.760 --> 03:05:22.280 some Becca style there he events the song Johnny be Good? 3594 03:05:23.799 --> 03:05:27.719 Uh yeah, Chuck Berry infamous for the taco bellfarts. 3595 03:05:28.639 --> 03:05:31.559 Uh well, that's that's only later in his life, mame. 3596 03:05:31.639 --> 03:05:33.840 He has a lot of accolades in this nature previous 3597 03:05:33.920 --> 03:05:35.319 to that. If you will, I'll never. 3598 03:05:35.280 --> 03:05:38.479 Forget that after you told me that I can't even 3599 03:05:38.559 --> 03:05:41.280 drive past the taco bell without playing Johnny be Good. 3600 03:05:41.840 --> 03:05:44.920 There you go, that's Taco bellfarts. 3601 03:05:45.879 --> 03:05:48.079 So Chuck Berry was convicted under the Main Act in 3602 03:05:48.159 --> 03:05:50.799 nineteen fifty nine for transporting a fourteen year old girl 3603 03:05:50.840 --> 03:05:54.840 across state lines for the purposes of prostitutionals or sexual exploitation. 3604 03:05:55.840 --> 03:05:57.479 The record company is the one who got him out 3605 03:05:57.520 --> 03:05:59.639 of prison, so, which is kind of funny. So he's 3606 03:05:59.639 --> 03:06:02.319 a convict sex offender. And then in nineteen seventy two 3607 03:06:02.440 --> 03:06:05.360 he records this song tours nationally on number one hit 3608 03:06:05.399 --> 03:06:11.120 on the billboards. My dingling, that's kind of weird. So 3609 03:06:11.280 --> 03:06:15.000 then so then in nineteen ninety two he gets rated 3610 03:06:15.079 --> 03:06:17.760 for all sorts of drugs in Saint Louis, which becomes 3611 03:06:17.799 --> 03:06:21.079 in another incident later as Julia he just pointed out. 3612 03:06:21.520 --> 03:06:24.719 And in this incident they raid his home there in 3613 03:06:24.760 --> 03:06:27.280 Saint Louis, and he they raid a bunch of videotapes 3614 03:06:27.280 --> 03:06:29.879 the later get leaked to tabloids of him farting in 3615 03:06:29.920 --> 03:06:32.760 hooker's mouse. Apparently that was his favorite thing to do 3616 03:06:32.920 --> 03:06:36.879 higher hooker and then fart in her mouth, so he 3617 03:06:36.959 --> 03:06:39.239 would and then he would, so you know, he would 3618 03:06:39.280 --> 03:06:42.600 later be arrested for or payoff a lot of women 3619 03:06:42.680 --> 03:06:44.399 in civil lawsuits. I don't know if they think they 3620 03:06:44.479 --> 03:06:47.760 dropped the criminal charges for installing video cameras and the 3621 03:06:47.799 --> 03:06:51.200 toilets of women's bathrooms, of the Taco Bells and KFCs 3622 03:06:51.200 --> 03:06:53.559 that he owned about you know, a couple dozen I believe, 3623 03:06:55.559 --> 03:06:58.879 so Chuck Berry kind of was. I mean, he hadn't 3624 03:06:58.920 --> 03:07:01.920 got he'd been know he was, Oh, he's just sick. Fuck, 3625 03:07:01.959 --> 03:07:03.399 but he you know, he was. He was convicted of 3626 03:07:03.440 --> 03:07:05.479 the man next stuff by that point. And then weird 3627 03:07:05.520 --> 03:07:07.879 that he did the whole dangling thing, but that you know, 3628 03:07:07.959 --> 03:07:09.520 it was after it was after the Back of the 3629 03:07:09.559 --> 03:07:11.440 Future stuff they got on for the partner in the 3630 03:07:11.440 --> 03:07:13.520 Hooker's Mouse, which is not obviously not the charge, but 3631 03:07:13.959 --> 03:07:16.200 so's so ridiculous. And then you know then of course 3632 03:07:16.239 --> 03:07:18.079 the camera stuff I think was more like nineteen ninety 3633 03:07:18.079 --> 03:07:18.799 eight or ninety nine. 3634 03:07:19.760 --> 03:07:21.399 Well you want. 3635 03:07:22.920 --> 03:07:24.159 You want a full circle movement? 3636 03:07:24.559 --> 03:07:24.840 Please? 3637 03:07:24.920 --> 03:07:27.959 Do you remember I said, nobody gets out of this 3638 03:07:28.079 --> 03:07:29.680 place without farting in my mouth? 3639 03:07:30.319 --> 03:07:33.079 The adventures in babysitting. 3640 03:07:32.840 --> 03:07:35.319 So adventures in leaving the stage unless you play the 3641 03:07:35.360 --> 03:07:36.760 blues right, but. 3642 03:07:36.959 --> 03:07:40.959 Adventures in babysitting and back to the Future to Elizabeth Shoe, 3643 03:07:42.000 --> 03:07:42.760 Oh shit. 3644 03:07:42.600 --> 03:07:45.959 You're right, yep, you are correct, man. 3645 03:07:46.000 --> 03:07:47.399 That's the full circle moment. 3646 03:07:47.520 --> 03:07:49.399 That is full that is full circle. And if I 3647 03:07:49.479 --> 03:07:51.040 if I may close this, if anyone else has any 3648 03:07:51.040 --> 03:07:53.360 other commentary here, we we'll do some closing statements, but 3649 03:07:53.440 --> 03:07:55.840 I want to kind of go full circle here myself 3650 03:07:55.920 --> 03:07:58.719 here with going back to the future on some operations 3651 03:07:58.799 --> 03:08:01.840 GCD shows relative to these topics here, relative of the 3652 03:08:01.920 --> 03:08:05.239 character bif taining, the you know, Jnald Trump, who was 3653 03:08:05.760 --> 03:08:08.120 you know that based on biftaining kind of the predictive 3654 03:08:08.159 --> 03:08:11.200 programming natures of that stuff, and the fact that he's 3655 03:08:11.200 --> 03:08:14.000 connected to the Delirium property. I find it all very fascinating. 3656 03:08:14.120 --> 03:08:17.280 So we'll do some closing stuff here after this clip 3657 03:08:17.319 --> 03:08:19.440 if I just want to go back to the future 3658 03:08:19.440 --> 03:08:21.879 here on this one and go full circle as you 3659 03:08:21.959 --> 03:08:58.600 were just saying there, Julia. So that's some interesting aspects. 3660 03:08:58.639 --> 03:09:00.600 You know, Deanni does use a cae you know, money 3661 03:09:00.639 --> 03:09:03.559 and shakes out the Republican Party in the movie. Did 3662 03:09:03.719 --> 03:09:07.239 almost get right? They winning the Chicago Cubs winning the 3663 03:09:07.319 --> 03:09:07.959 World Series? 3664 03:09:08.040 --> 03:09:08.159 Right? 3665 03:09:08.920 --> 03:09:09.399 They were off? 3666 03:09:09.719 --> 03:09:10.120 Ye? Right? 3667 03:09:11.159 --> 03:09:13.399 Well they were off by year they won in twenty sixteen. 3668 03:09:14.639 --> 03:09:17.000 They were in twenty sixteen. So well, that's what I'm saying. 3669 03:09:17.040 --> 03:09:19.760 It's creepy enough, right, And that whole incident of the 3670 03:09:19.879 --> 03:09:24.479 Cubs winning the World Series, that incident's real creepy to me. 3671 03:09:24.639 --> 03:09:27.760 So it was called the Curse of the Goat was 3672 03:09:27.920 --> 03:09:29.360 this was this curse of the Goat was like one 3673 03:09:29.399 --> 03:09:33.479 of the most infamous curses and in any major sports right, 3674 03:09:34.440 --> 03:09:38.280 haunting the Cubs for nearly one hundred years. Well, the 3675 03:09:38.360 --> 03:09:40.760 folks that are credited for breaking the Curse of the 3676 03:09:40.840 --> 03:09:45.600 Goat is the Revisa sports hypnosis and sports psychotherapist family 3677 03:09:46.200 --> 03:09:55.479 family business as in Buffalo Jered. Yeah, that man my 3678 03:09:55.639 --> 03:09:58.760 former stocker. He his dad and uncle. He was actually 3679 03:09:58.799 --> 03:10:01.799 part of the family business too. Uh, were the folks 3680 03:10:01.840 --> 03:10:04.479 who broke the Curse of the Goat. The Chicago Cubs 3681 03:10:04.520 --> 03:10:07.959 officially recognized Ken Revisa as the person who broke the 3682 03:10:08.040 --> 03:10:11.680 Curse of the Goat. So that aspect of the Back 3683 03:10:11.719 --> 03:10:14.680 to the Future series, it's a little close to home. 3684 03:10:15.680 --> 03:10:17.600 What if the come thing was a year and a day, 3685 03:10:19.600 --> 03:10:22.680 Like it was like like an HGA ritual, Like it 3686 03:10:22.840 --> 03:10:26.959 was like intentionally off by a year. It was like, 3687 03:10:27.520 --> 03:10:29.399 it was like to I don't know that that would 3688 03:10:29.440 --> 03:10:30.639 be a funny little game. 3689 03:10:31.520 --> 03:10:33.479 I enjoy your perspective on these things because it's not 3690 03:10:33.760 --> 03:10:36.079 it's totally unique from what I way I look at things. 3691 03:10:36.120 --> 03:10:41.319 So I like, like we were saying, so I appreciate it. 3692 03:10:41.440 --> 03:10:43.360 I appreciate you all join me here tonight to gild 3693 03:10:43.440 --> 03:10:46.799 GCD and discussed this occult esoteric review of the nineteen 3694 03:10:46.840 --> 03:10:49.719 eighty five cinematic masterpiece Back to the Future. And I 3695 03:10:49.760 --> 03:10:52.520 appreciate the folks with the interwebs staying with us. We 3696 03:10:52.559 --> 03:10:54.799 got we folks seem to be enjoying the conversation. 3697 03:10:54.879 --> 03:10:55.040 I know. 3698 03:10:55.159 --> 03:10:57.440 I am so like to go on a round table 3699 03:10:57.479 --> 03:11:00.360 here and uh give everyone, you know, any closing statements, 3700 03:11:00.399 --> 03:11:02.360 any plugs you want to do by all me to 3701 03:11:02.399 --> 03:11:05.559 take your time, not trying to rush anybody, but you 3702 03:11:05.639 --> 03:11:09.360 know who We'll start off with, Heidi, since you're down 3703 03:11:09.360 --> 03:11:10.920 there in the bottom right, let's start down there. 3704 03:11:11.920 --> 03:11:13.920 Well, thank you so much for putting up with me tonight. 3705 03:11:13.959 --> 03:11:15.479 You guys, I'm I nerd it out. 3706 03:11:15.600 --> 03:11:16.440 I'm so sorry. 3707 03:11:16.920 --> 03:11:20.959 Good me to I was, Yeah, it was fun. I 3708 03:11:21.120 --> 03:11:23.239 love the show. I love I love the second one 3709 03:11:23.280 --> 03:11:28.120 almost as much. So it was just this series right, yes, 3710 03:11:28.399 --> 03:11:29.280 always always a. 3711 03:11:29.360 --> 03:11:32.520 Great time to be a colt rejects And anytime I 3712 03:11:32.559 --> 03:11:34.319 can come on and be on a show with JJ 3713 03:11:34.639 --> 03:11:35.120 is amazing. 3714 03:11:35.239 --> 03:11:38.840 So thank you, guys, you ma'am, thank you, thank you. 3715 03:11:39.040 --> 03:11:43.120 Find me anywhere podcasts are served Unfiltered Rise podcast dot com. 3716 03:11:43.360 --> 03:11:45.559 I also know if you watch me on YouTube it's 3717 03:11:45.600 --> 03:11:49.920 only once a week drop versus twice or more on Spotify, 3718 03:11:50.120 --> 03:11:51.879 just because they dig me so much. 3719 03:11:51.959 --> 03:11:57.399 Love to all of you, Thank you for watching, Julia. 3720 03:11:57.520 --> 03:12:00.200 Appreciate you joining us ma'am as always since I got 3721 03:12:00.200 --> 03:12:01.920 about you joining us in Golden Child, I'm glad you 3722 03:12:01.959 --> 03:12:04.120 could make it back around too. We'll have to do 3723 03:12:04.479 --> 03:12:07.760 a non occult necessary review and talk to some other 3724 03:12:07.879 --> 03:12:10.959 parapolitics as we often cross over in a lot of 3725 03:12:11.000 --> 03:12:13.520 our ideas and subjects we we enjoy, not not the 3726 03:12:13.600 --> 03:12:14.920 least of which Tuesday Wild. 3727 03:12:15.719 --> 03:12:17.760 Hey, you know what would be a nice follow up 3728 03:12:17.799 --> 03:12:21.159 to Tuesday Weld. We we could really throw down on JFK. 3729 03:12:21.360 --> 03:12:26.280 Junior because that's another one of my faiths that I'm doing. 3730 03:12:26.200 --> 03:12:29.319 Kids once again. Once again, like I said, a lot 3731 03:12:29.319 --> 03:12:31.040 of cross every You may have well just read my 3732 03:12:31.120 --> 03:12:33.319 mind because Heidi and I were on the sixth Census 3733 03:12:33.440 --> 03:12:36.559 since a sixth Sensory podcast last night, and I came 3734 03:12:36.559 --> 03:12:39.319 to the revelation when we were talking Society of Cincinnati 3735 03:12:39.399 --> 03:12:42.360 that JFK. Junior was likely a dual member of the 3736 03:12:42.520 --> 03:12:46.000 Society of Cincinnati won the French chapter and won the 3737 03:12:46.079 --> 03:12:48.959 Maryland chapter and that's a longer tail, but it's wow. 3738 03:12:49.319 --> 03:12:52.079 No, yeah, I would. I'd love to pick your guys' 3739 03:12:52.239 --> 03:12:55.600 brain on him, because that's that's another topic I could 3740 03:12:55.719 --> 03:12:57.959 just talk about forever. But thanks so much for having 3741 03:12:58.040 --> 03:12:59.959 me on this one. I love back to the few. 3742 03:13:00.239 --> 03:13:02.360 I love the third one. You can skip me on 3743 03:13:02.479 --> 03:13:04.680 the esoteric review of the second one because I think 3744 03:13:04.760 --> 03:13:06.840 it sucks sticks, but the first one. 3745 03:13:06.920 --> 03:13:08.520 In the third one, I'm down. 3746 03:13:08.879 --> 03:13:09.760 You think it's garbage. 3747 03:13:09.840 --> 03:13:10.680 Jay, Yeah, I. 3748 03:13:10.760 --> 03:13:11.280 Don't like it. 3749 03:13:11.840 --> 03:13:15.719 And you know, it's funny to think where they thought 3750 03:13:15.760 --> 03:13:18.200 we would be in twenty fifteen and we're still just 3751 03:13:18.959 --> 03:13:24.440 lame weirdos. No flying cars, no hoverboards, no self tying shoes. 3752 03:13:24.680 --> 03:13:27.440 I mean, I don't like the second one. But thanks 3753 03:13:27.479 --> 03:13:30.000 so much for having me. This was really fun. Jen, 3754 03:13:30.200 --> 03:13:33.559 n Heidi JJ, You're all awesome. I love working with you. 3755 03:13:34.200 --> 03:13:36.479 I think we covered a lot of ground on this one. 3756 03:13:39.239 --> 03:13:39.639 For sure. 3757 03:13:40.879 --> 03:13:41.040 Jen. 3758 03:13:41.239 --> 03:13:44.280 Greeting, sir, how about you share some more wizard skills 3759 03:13:44.319 --> 03:13:48.559 with us this evening. I appreciate your reviews. Yay, I'm 3760 03:13:48.639 --> 03:13:50.760 convinced of it. Man, you've always you're always having some 3761 03:13:50.879 --> 03:13:51.600 wizardry on me. 3762 03:13:52.719 --> 03:13:55.360 You know, I I love to play the hermestissis one 3763 03:13:55.440 --> 03:13:58.399 I had when he lies, it's like Nick already knows 3764 03:13:58.440 --> 03:14:00.959 how he also knows just because she's into it like that, 3765 03:14:01.120 --> 03:14:03.360 but Nick actually knows because there's that it's him. 3766 03:14:03.399 --> 03:14:03.719 I love. 3767 03:14:04.079 --> 03:14:07.000 It's my favorite thing to play plus ultra on on live. 3768 03:14:07.159 --> 03:14:11.799 So there you go. There's I'm admitting it. No, I 3769 03:14:11.879 --> 03:14:13.959 want to thank you guys obviously, Thank you JJ so 3770 03:14:14.079 --> 03:14:16.120 much for inviting me, including me on this years. I 3771 03:14:16.200 --> 03:14:18.360 know that we get a lot of cool people liking 3772 03:14:18.440 --> 03:14:20.719 my posts about this, so it's like it's it's a 3773 03:14:20.760 --> 03:14:23.959 big It's interesting for me to like see these people 3774 03:14:24.000 --> 03:14:26.520 who I think are like cooler than me and they're 3775 03:14:26.639 --> 03:14:29.479 kind of into it. So that's great. And thank you obviously, boss, 3776 03:14:29.600 --> 03:14:32.399 thank you Nick so much, thank you Heidi so much, 3777 03:14:32.600 --> 03:14:35.000 thank you Julia so much. And I just want to 3778 03:14:35.040 --> 03:14:37.520 say thank you. I want to keep it light tonight, 3779 03:14:37.600 --> 03:14:40.760 but the Carl Wood interview was like a really cathartic 3780 03:14:40.879 --> 03:14:43.200 moment for me, and I just want to dedicate this 3781 03:14:43.319 --> 03:14:46.559 one to my co host for the Twynement series, Zach 3782 03:14:46.680 --> 03:14:50.520 Schumer and of course Zach third Eye Homuncula, who passed away. 3783 03:14:50.760 --> 03:14:53.600 So thank you guys so much. It meant like a huge, 3784 03:14:53.760 --> 03:14:57.040 a great deal to me. So it's like a really 3785 03:14:57.200 --> 03:14:58.799 beautiful way to close that chapter. 3786 03:15:01.239 --> 03:15:02.959 Oh yeah, that was awesome. 3787 03:15:05.079 --> 03:15:05.280 Nick. 3788 03:15:05.360 --> 03:15:07.440 As always, I appreciate your time as always, sir, and 3789 03:15:07.840 --> 03:15:10.360 look forward to our Friday conversation. Come up with as 3790 03:15:10.360 --> 03:15:14.440 always with our cars Fridays together. Yes, yeah, Austin, wait 3791 03:15:14.479 --> 03:15:14.680 the car. 3792 03:15:14.760 --> 03:15:15.120 But what else? 3793 03:15:15.280 --> 03:15:17.399 What else? Your thoughts on closing statements tonight and anything 3794 03:15:17.440 --> 03:15:18.159 else you want to plug? 3795 03:15:18.799 --> 03:15:24.120 Oh well, I think well, first off, I'm thankfully after 3796 03:15:24.239 --> 03:15:27.200 posting it was gonna be the most comprehensive covering of 3797 03:15:27.719 --> 03:15:30.680 Back to the Future. That's what exactly happened, So thank 3798 03:15:30.719 --> 03:15:33.639 you everybody. I think that was amazing. It was three 3799 03:15:33.680 --> 03:15:35.040 hours long. There was a lot, a lot of a 3800 03:15:35.040 --> 03:15:38.760 lot of stuff in there. That's what's yes, Yeah, it was. 3801 03:15:38.959 --> 03:15:42.600 That was called recheck style. So and I will just 3802 03:15:42.680 --> 03:15:44.639 one thing I just want to add. I do think, 3803 03:15:44.840 --> 03:15:46.760 and I think we've all kind of said it as 3804 03:15:46.799 --> 03:15:50.000 somebody said it earlier. It might have been Julia or 3805 03:15:50.200 --> 03:15:50.840 maybe it was Heidi. 3806 03:15:51.399 --> 03:15:51.520 Uh. 3807 03:15:51.799 --> 03:15:53.559 I do think if you look at everything that we 3808 03:15:53.680 --> 03:15:56.239 talked about, in my opinion, all that stuff is in 3809 03:15:56.360 --> 03:15:59.879 that movie on purpose. It's all been added to the scene. 3810 03:16:00.040 --> 03:16:03.040 It's all there for a reason. I think the way 3811 03:16:03.120 --> 03:16:04.920 we all looked at it and pretty much came to 3812 03:16:05.000 --> 03:16:08.040 the same stuff, I think you can kind of see 3813 03:16:08.079 --> 03:16:11.239 that that's the choreographed that doesn't happen by Actually I 3814 03:16:11.280 --> 03:16:11.680 don't think. 3815 03:16:11.959 --> 03:16:13.239 I mean, there it is, JJ. 3816 03:16:13.440 --> 03:16:14.600 You finally found it. 3817 03:16:14.719 --> 03:16:16.920 For that yep, to that point you were making it 3818 03:16:17.040 --> 03:16:19.959 and to Julius Common earlier. There you go. That's the 3819 03:16:20.040 --> 03:16:22.280 opening scene, and there's Doc Brown hanging from a clock 3820 03:16:22.360 --> 03:16:24.120 tower in the background of that opening scene. 3821 03:16:25.559 --> 03:16:31.559 Everything is on purpose, dude, Every little thing is on purpose. 3822 03:16:32.200 --> 03:16:34.000 Even me bringing this up right now is on purpose. 3823 03:16:34.000 --> 03:16:35.000 I was waiting for this moment. 3824 03:16:38.000 --> 03:16:38.440 I love it. 3825 03:16:38.959 --> 03:16:42.200 Yeah, man, I love that was on the clock it 3826 03:16:42.319 --> 03:16:43.200 says axis. 3827 03:16:45.159 --> 03:16:50.399 Oh yeah, that's a room too. The kid hanging from anything. 3828 03:16:50.440 --> 03:16:53.760 It's thorn. Actually, I don't really know the rooms. I 3829 03:16:53.840 --> 03:16:54.680 hate the Norse stuff. 3830 03:16:54.719 --> 03:17:02.600 I'm like, you need, I'm all. Julie's even got the 3831 03:17:02.639 --> 03:17:04.120 same hat on. He's got that hat on. 3832 03:17:05.399 --> 03:17:06.840 That's what I'm telling you, dude. 3833 03:17:07.840 --> 03:17:11.760 It's Doc Brown for sure. Dude. That's crazy. 3834 03:17:12.479 --> 03:17:14.920 The shadow doesn't match and it's very phallic looking. 3835 03:17:15.040 --> 03:17:19.559 Sorry, you're good. No, by all means. But I mean, 3836 03:17:19.600 --> 03:17:21.280 this is what we're talking about here, right, we're closing 3837 03:17:21.280 --> 03:17:23.840 it out here with exactly this is the great great 3838 03:17:23.879 --> 03:17:26.000 closing m hm. It's like the. 3839 03:17:26.040 --> 03:17:31.680 Amazon sign almost, right, yeah, dude, Or. 3840 03:17:31.760 --> 03:17:34.120 Like if you look at it maybe from the side, 3841 03:17:34.159 --> 03:17:36.280 it kind of looks like the whole compass thing. 3842 03:17:37.040 --> 03:17:39.120 I don't know, right, right, well, why is there a 3843 03:17:39.200 --> 03:17:41.239 pretty aspect to a two D object here? 3844 03:17:41.360 --> 03:17:41.479 Right? 3845 03:17:42.719 --> 03:17:43.239 Exactly? 3846 03:17:43.639 --> 03:17:44.920 Well, I think it might be. 3847 03:17:45.639 --> 03:17:48.120 I think it might be three D though I think like. 3848 03:17:48.280 --> 03:17:50.399 The guy I thought I was painted on, Okay, no, 3849 03:17:50.559 --> 03:17:53.120 I don't. Is this more of that duality. 3850 03:17:54.239 --> 03:17:54.479 It is? 3851 03:17:57.799 --> 03:17:59.319 I mean, I see the shadow I thought it was 3852 03:17:59.399 --> 03:18:02.559 because it was like as the clockhand moves, the little 3853 03:18:02.639 --> 03:18:03.639 guy moves with it. 3854 03:18:03.920 --> 03:18:05.959 You know, you may be right, you may be right. 3855 03:18:06.000 --> 03:18:07.799 I was just being painted on there with that kind 3856 03:18:07.799 --> 03:18:09.879 of shadow of it as well. Like the duality nature 3857 03:18:09.879 --> 03:18:10.559 of it's still. 3858 03:18:11.360 --> 03:18:14.760 M yeah, because then is he who travels through time? 3859 03:18:15.520 --> 03:18:18.120 It's not. It's not someone who's matten right, Like they're 3860 03:18:18.200 --> 03:18:22.399 out to master traveling, right like they they they they 3861 03:18:22.559 --> 03:18:25.440 solved time travel, They solve that paradox, they solve that 3862 03:18:25.680 --> 03:18:28.840 area between the hill and the valley. That's done. Now 3863 03:18:28.920 --> 03:18:31.559 the next thing is that you did is conquer space. 3864 03:18:33.319 --> 03:18:35.360 It's just a metaphor for the whole film. It's like 3865 03:18:35.440 --> 03:18:36.840 the hermetic journey. 3866 03:18:37.840 --> 03:18:43.479 And again and again my response, don't you again? 3867 03:18:43.600 --> 03:18:44.239 Almost innate. 3868 03:18:44.319 --> 03:18:46.520 It's almost like he's trying to hold it back from 3869 03:18:46.600 --> 03:18:47.799 being an eight once again. 3870 03:18:48.959 --> 03:18:52.879 Here, Yeah, the bottom it will look like the bottom 3871 03:18:52.920 --> 03:18:54.000 one would be on an eight anyway. 3872 03:18:54.079 --> 03:18:55.799 Right, I was gonna say, I think you have this 3873 03:18:55.959 --> 03:18:56.760 all hands on the eight. 3874 03:18:57.479 --> 03:19:01.879 Yeah, but it's it's not quite right, right, it's. 3875 03:19:01.760 --> 03:19:03.920 Not it's almost it's almost eight am, right, yeah, it's 3876 03:19:03.959 --> 03:19:05.680 seven fifty. 3877 03:19:05.000 --> 03:19:09.239 Four, right, So he's holding back time, so there can't 3878 03:19:09.360 --> 03:19:13.040 be a complete, a completeness of infinity. 3879 03:19:13.360 --> 03:19:16.000 Well, I think all those clocks here on that same time, right, 3880 03:19:16.040 --> 03:19:16.920 there's this one, right. 3881 03:19:16.920 --> 03:19:17.280 Is that right? 3882 03:19:17.360 --> 03:19:17.680 Chelieu? 3883 03:19:18.200 --> 03:19:21.319 Yeah, they're all on the same time exactly, remember from 3884 03:19:21.360 --> 03:19:24.159 the phone call exactly twenty five minutes late? 3885 03:19:24.920 --> 03:19:29.280 Right, Yeah, that's right? 3886 03:19:29.479 --> 03:19:34.559 Okay, nice, nice. Now I don't remember where I was 3887 03:19:34.600 --> 03:19:36.959 going with that before, but I like those points. That's 3888 03:19:37.000 --> 03:19:37.479 good stuff. 3889 03:19:38.680 --> 03:19:38.799 Oh. 3890 03:19:38.879 --> 03:19:40.799 My response to all this, my response to all this 3891 03:19:41.639 --> 03:19:46.239 scot there you go. So now I I appreciate everyone's time, 3892 03:19:46.360 --> 03:19:48.760 and uh if I if I can offer a couple 3893 03:19:48.879 --> 03:19:51.440 quick plugs. Like I said, I got Operation GCD Live 3894 03:19:51.559 --> 03:19:54.680 Sundays coming up here eight pm Patreon only with links 3895 03:19:54.719 --> 03:19:57.040 in the show notes, along with links for all of 3896 03:19:57.079 --> 03:19:59.520 our wonderful guests here in the Occult Rejects panel. Here 3897 03:19:59.600 --> 03:20:02.879 this evening full blown a cult Rejects panel. And I 3898 03:20:02.959 --> 03:20:05.159 got this Sunday at eight pm Eastern time. I got 3899 03:20:05.360 --> 03:20:08.040 the Curse of Robert the Doll. That's gonna be a 3900 03:20:08.079 --> 03:20:10.760 scary one, more so for me than anyone else. And 3901 03:20:10.799 --> 03:20:13.680 then the following Sunday, as I just mentioned, the Revisa 3902 03:20:13.760 --> 03:20:15.520 family and the Curse of the Goat, which is a great, 3903 03:20:15.680 --> 03:20:18.639 great tie in here because I got the Legends of 3904 03:20:18.680 --> 03:20:23.040 Buffalo Jared Revisa. This is my former stalker, slash almost 3905 03:20:23.239 --> 03:20:24.959 he wanted me to hire him as my PR guy, 3906 03:20:24.959 --> 03:20:27.319 and then he pretty sure he wanted to murder me 3907 03:20:27.360 --> 03:20:29.000 and wear my skin as a coat because he later 3908 03:20:29.040 --> 03:20:31.799 went out to multi state killing spree. And I think 3909 03:20:31.840 --> 03:20:35.200 he's I suspected some sort of mind controlled situation. So 3910 03:20:35.239 --> 03:20:37.079 that'll be a fun tale again, not so much for me, 3911 03:20:37.200 --> 03:20:41.440 but probably for other people. For you, just ptsc Yeah, 3912 03:20:41.840 --> 03:20:44.040 for me, just drudging out some nasty memories. But you know, 3913 03:20:44.079 --> 03:20:45.440 I try to make some humor out of it. That's 3914 03:20:45.440 --> 03:20:46.799 how that's how I get by in life. 3915 03:20:47.280 --> 03:20:49.520 He wanted to wear you like an Edgar suit. 3916 03:20:50.639 --> 03:20:53.000 Yeah, he was like. He told me to put the 3917 03:20:53.040 --> 03:20:55.000 lotion on the skin, and you know, I was like, wait, 3918 03:20:55.079 --> 03:20:55.600 what's wrang? 3919 03:20:57.440 --> 03:21:00.639 Yeah, dude, about what. 3920 03:21:00.639 --> 03:21:01.399 Are you talking about? Lotion? 3921 03:21:01.840 --> 03:21:07.639 Fatten you up so you could hibernate together, all right, right? 3922 03:21:08.360 --> 03:21:11.000 Well, strangely enough, the man he murdered, he actually hired 3923 03:21:11.079 --> 03:21:15.760 him to be his pr rep heed. So again, this 3924 03:21:15.920 --> 03:21:17.799 is the life and times of that I have to 3925 03:21:17.879 --> 03:21:20.360 deal with here in the circumstances and whatnot. But I 3926 03:21:20.440 --> 03:21:22.639 appreciate all folks at the innerwebs tonight and tune in 3927 03:21:22.719 --> 03:21:25.280 and chatting and seem to be fairly well engaged in 3928 03:21:25.280 --> 03:21:27.360 and joining the things I like to see that I 3929 03:21:27.639 --> 03:21:30.200 always aim to entertain here, and I believe many of 3930 03:21:30.479 --> 03:21:32.079 most of the rest of the panel here does, except 3931 03:21:32.079 --> 03:21:35.040 for Jen. He just intends to do wizardry around everywhere. 3932 03:21:35.159 --> 03:21:39.000 So for that much I also appreciate. But I think 3933 03:21:39.159 --> 03:21:41.360 thanks to all the occult rejects here for joining us 3934 03:21:41.399 --> 03:21:43.879 and any any final comments from anyone. 3935 03:21:45.639 --> 03:21:48.440 Where we're going, we don't need roads. 3936 03:21:48.879 --> 03:22:17.040 That's great. Scott Batt