Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
Speaker 1: is episode ninety one. I'm Mike Maharty back with the
Speaker 1: whole gang, the whole crew. That's Dan Riiker, that's Media. Hello,
Speaker 1: that's Mary Kish.
Speaker 2: I'm back baby.
Speaker 1: Where were you last episode?
Speaker 2: I was in San Diego for Twitch Con.
Speaker 3: You were on the stage again.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's super fun.
Speaker 4: We had a really good weekend talking about streaming and
Speaker 4: I got to meet a lot of really amazing creators.
Speaker 4: And we have something called artist Ali where we can
Speaker 4: buy art and knickknacks from people who stream their art
Speaker 4: and it's really cool. It's like totally different than the packs,
Speaker 4: which is like art booths of people who are like,
Speaker 4: I have really good art. These are streamers who stream
Speaker 4: maybe like digital painting or making keyboard key caps, and
Speaker 4: then you can buy their stuff or you could also
Speaker 4: just like watch their streams.
Speaker 3: So does Twitch display that at the convention mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: It's a whole section of the convention hall is just
Speaker 4: like buy stuff that are made by arts and crafters
Speaker 4: who also stream their arts and crafts, which is I
Speaker 4: think really neat and very different than.
Speaker 2: Most other conventions. I get a lot of like weird,
Speaker 2: funky stuff there.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 1: What were some of the coolest things you saw being made?
Speaker 1: Are you not? I?
Speaker 2: I can. I play favorites every day.
Speaker 4: I obviously have favorites of certain people that I like
Speaker 4: watch a lot. I watch, like, for example, like I
Speaker 4: always bring up Turtles and Chill when someone's like, who's
Speaker 4: your favorite streamer? It's like, I watch Turtles and Chill
Speaker 4: like every day, So like, of course I play favorites.
Speaker 3: Is that actual turtle footage?
Speaker 2: It's a fucking turtle uh tank in someone?
Speaker 1: Yes, pigeon and the owl nests.
Speaker 4: I love that, Yeah, but it's just it's to like
Speaker 4: low fi beads. So I listen to it while I work,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of like having a turtle tank in
Speaker 4: my house, but I don't have to deal with the
Speaker 4: turtle smell or feeding them or anything.
Speaker 3: This camera quality, this is fantastic. We had frames here.
Speaker 1: This looks great all the time. Is just being a
Speaker 1: dick in case, in case anybody wonders why my time
Speaker 1: my comedic timing is off for a bit, and I
Speaker 1: know my timing is usually perfect. It's because my internet's hitching.
Speaker 2: It's the Internet's fault.
Speaker 1: What if you're watching that and in the middle of
Speaker 1: the day to fifteen pm, say one of the turtles
Speaker 1: just started becoming a man.
Speaker 3: In the quickly No, yeah.
Speaker 2: Quickly enough shoving its face.
Speaker 3: Is like over the course of several days.
Speaker 1: No, it's quickly enough where you could text your friend
Speaker 1: and they jump on and miss it. But slow enough
Speaker 1: where you like see the transformation happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, did they keep the shell? Like, is it a
Speaker 2: naked man with a shell.
Speaker 1: The shell becomes his.
Speaker 3: Hair, jockstrap or situation for a jockstrap?
Speaker 1: Is he nude?
Speaker 3: Yes, he's very old.
Speaker 1: It's a Benjamin Button turtle situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all the turtle years translated into more human years.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what if that happened?
Speaker 3: And he has the memories too.
Speaker 1: Who's the first person you would text Mary to say,
Speaker 1: go to turtles and chill down? Nine slash turtles and chilled.
Speaker 2: I brought Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I would take clips and then I would
Speaker 4: tweet it so that I get the.
Speaker 2: Attention for it.
Speaker 1: Dan just admitted he would swat the turtleman.
Speaker 3: Authorities.
Speaker 4: I've learned a lot that Dan is a bit of
Speaker 4: a narcy and I have to say, it's a bit
Speaker 4: just he just admitted to it. You were talking earlier
Speaker 4: before we were recording about how when you worked at
Speaker 4: a liquor store you would report anyone who wasn't twenty
Speaker 4: one because you got fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: That's not what I said. What I said was when
Speaker 3: I worked at the liquor store in college, I always
Speaker 3: wanted to do that because they would give me fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: I rarely found I didn't know how to spot a
Speaker 3: pike idea, so I did not actually mark anyone. I
Speaker 3: just desperately wanted to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're still a bad person.
Speaker 1: This is like papers, please, but pathetic they were. They
Speaker 1: were college kids.
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to drink when you're under twenty one.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4: You are such a little snitch. He's not law abiding.
Speaker 4: He wants and if wants fifty dollars in his pocket,
Speaker 4: he's gonna ruin some stupid kid's life.
Speaker 3: Just some ruin life.
Speaker 2: You can underage. Drinking is a total offense.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I got an it's fine, it's it's a six hundred
Speaker 3: bucks core. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's just crazy, the bar that it takes
Speaker 4: for you to be inspired to do something not great
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I was twenty one, to be fair, so I don't
Speaker 3: think I would do that now, But you know, a
Speaker 3: college dan would. I would have archd for fifty bucks
Speaker 3: in college.
Speaker 4: Like if I gave you fifty dollars for the next
Speaker 4: time somebody underage ever was drinking, would you call nine
Speaker 4: one one?
Speaker 3: No, I would not. Well, first of all, I would
Speaker 3: call that one anyway. It would be a uh oh,
Speaker 3: we're taking your idea. Because they had a big corkboard
Speaker 3: and they would put them all up there, And I
Speaker 3: was always jealous of my coworkers who would like fill
Speaker 3: up that corkboard with all the fake id's.
Speaker 1: What did they like, ever give you any tips on
Speaker 1: the best ways to spot a fake?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I was really bad at
Speaker 3: working there. That was the liquor store where I used
Speaker 3: to hide in the free or in the beer fridge
Speaker 3: whenever somebody like if. Because it was a college place,
Speaker 3: So if I saw an older couple, and older at
Speaker 3: that time meant a thirties, I knew that they were
Speaker 3: going to go to the wine section and ask questions
Speaker 3: that I didn't know, so I would just go hide
Speaker 3: in the beer fridge until they left the store.
Speaker 1: You said this before very funny, and now it's bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I gotta be a near right here my glass?
Speaker 1: How is the dog near?
Speaker 3: It's Is it supposed to be a really strong taste?
Speaker 3: I'm more, does it go bad? It was like fruity.
Speaker 1: Vianne is usually is a bit more like tropical fruit,
Speaker 1: but it's aromatic. They add it to certain roane wines
Speaker 1: to give it more of a nose. But it tastes bad.
Speaker 3: It's kind of not bad, like like I don't know
Speaker 3: if it went bad. It's got like a bite to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the fruit in it expired.
Speaker 4: Fruit tart though, like you'd think that maybe like a
Speaker 4: very fruity wine would also be like fairly acidic.
Speaker 2: I heard you'll know when a wine goes bad.
Speaker 4: It's never happened to me, but it happened to a
Speaker 4: coworker of mine, and they said, like it tastes like
Speaker 4: rotten fruit. Like it doesn't taste acidic. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: like you feel like disgusted.
Speaker 3: Well, this is not that definitely not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not signd of. If a wine is corked,
Speaker 1: which is like when a certain bacteria interacts with cork
Speaker 1: and everything. No, it's just a phrase. If like something
Speaker 1: interacts with cork and it spoils, it tastes like damp
Speaker 1: cardboard in a basement, is the telltale sign.
Speaker 3: That that's my flavor? Profile on first leaf is I
Speaker 3: say I went damp cardboard in the basement.
Speaker 1: Do you like briosch yes? Do you like coffee?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Do you like damp cardboard? Love it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do I ever you could eat cardboard?
Speaker 1: Right? I have? Yeah, it's just paper, but it's stacked
Speaker 1: and triangular.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you have?
Speaker 1: What? Did? What? Did I say?
Speaker 3: Did he stutter?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean I understand.
Speaker 4: Did you think it was like a giant cheese it?
Speaker 4: Or like, are you just down there like munching cardboard?
Speaker 2: You little freak.
Speaker 1: I just ate paper when I was young all the time.
Speaker 1: Why I don't know.
Speaker 2: Also, cardboard isn't paper.
Speaker 1: Anybody do anything.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 4: I will ride my children eating glue every once in
Speaker 4: a while because they're ding dongs. But if you are
Speaker 4: ripping pieces of a moving box and eating it, I
Speaker 4: would have called help.
Speaker 3: If I ate a full cardboard box, would that contain calories?
Speaker 3: Because It's just energy, right. A calorie is energy, right?
Speaker 3: Could I like meet my minimum calorie?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Could I eat two thousands calories a day of boxes?
Speaker 2: How did we get here?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I think that we like eating celery where you can
Speaker 4: burn take more calories.
Speaker 2: To chew the cardboard than you guess from the cardboard.
Speaker 1: Again, but I just Google imagine that.
Speaker 3: I just googled does cardboard have calories? And Google AI
Speaker 3: says yes, cardboard contains calories.
Speaker 2: Write an article like that.
Speaker 4: If you fucking put that in a college essay, you
Speaker 4: would get an f because AI is not a fucking fact.
Speaker 2: Second of all, an answer up. It also doesn't answer what.
Speaker 4: We were saying, which is we're saying it could contain calories,
Speaker 4: but you would lose calories from the amount of energy
Speaker 4: it takes for you to chew it and for you
Speaker 4: to digest it, kind of like when you like eat
Speaker 4: snow to stay hydrated, but it actually dehydrates you because
Speaker 4: your body has to regulate that temperature.
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but I also just feel like
Speaker 1: that much amount of cardboard in your stomach at once
Speaker 1: would have many other negative side effects.
Speaker 4: Who are you not a doctor, but one of the
Speaker 4: people on this podcast is a fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: Hang on, I'm educating myself free form fitness. The website says, uh, okay,
Speaker 3: the cardboard diet cardboard is one hundred percent cellulose because
Speaker 3: you don't have the enzyme required to digest it. Simply
Speaker 3: moving it through your body would require more energy calories
Speaker 3: than you'd get from the cardboard.
Speaker 1: See, that's what we said.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. You lowerl HDL, you'll lower vacation.
Speaker 2: I cannot we said that to you.
Speaker 3: No, check the table.
Speaker 1: Is there a cardboard diet? Can't do that?
Speaker 3: It's on this Personal Trainer website and they're talking about
Speaker 3: but I think they're saying it's not good.
Speaker 1: The Personal Trainer is just Timothy J. Turrey.
Speaker 3: Just like the cardboard diet that may seem to work
Speaker 3: in the early stages in terms of losing weight, it's
Speaker 3: disguised by an unsustainable strategy to keeping the weight off
Speaker 3: for good and living a healthy life. So it's not
Speaker 3: eating cardboard is not a good long term.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, good, Yeah, we cleared that up. Yeah, this man,
Speaker 1: when I roll back together on the podcast, will.
Speaker 2: This is I'm exhausted.
Speaker 4: How long has it been eight minutes.
Speaker 2: I can't believe this when.
Speaker 1: How merry, I noticed you're not drinking wine.
Speaker 3: Where's your I'm drinking.
Speaker 4: I'm drinking whiskey and Coca Cola Mexican coke with the
Speaker 4: actual sugar, which is like my favorite type of cola.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm back on the Costco train. It's changing.
Speaker 1: They have night changing.
Speaker 3: You've seen the Costco guys, right, they.
Speaker 4: Have fucking everything, Mike, and it's so good, it's so affordable.
Speaker 3: You guys know the Costco guys.
Speaker 2: Right, who's the Costco guys? Oh yeah, old chunk.
Speaker 3: Chocolate Cokie and yeah that thing is a wrestler. You
Speaker 3: don't know, Oh, Mike, you would love the Costco guys.
Speaker 2: They're like justice, Yeah, cool names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they review Costco stuff and make funny skits.
Speaker 1: But the wrestler they do not.
Speaker 2: First and foremost eight years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dad used to be an indie wrestler, like
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. But he did just sign a one
Speaker 3: match contract with AW so he's going to do like
Speaker 3: a gimmick match there. But he's known for being the Costco.
Speaker 4: Guys wrestling in here anyway, So Costco is back on
Speaker 4: the menu. I have no into Costco in years because
Speaker 4: I didn't think I could justify it because I'm have
Speaker 4: a lot of people in this house.
Speaker 2: I feel like Costco was for the.
Speaker 4: Family of six or higher that needed to have large
Speaker 4: meals for people. It turns out Costco is just for
Speaker 4: the saving enthusiast who wants to buy cheese ites in bulk,
Speaker 4: and that's.
Speaker 3: Me, toilet paper, paper plates, paper bowls, party supplies, things
Speaker 3: like that, you know, gatorades and any kind of drinks
Speaker 3: or anything. They have a pretty limited soda assortment, but
Speaker 3: they got the you know, the die cokes and this
Speaker 3: rights and the regular stuff. It's great. I love Costco.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's where I got the It's where I got
Speaker 4: these Mexican cokes in glass bottles, which is so such
Speaker 4: a treat, right, Like I wouldn't normally buy something like that,
Speaker 4: but I was like, oh, what a treat for Mary
Speaker 4: to like get these like fancy cokes that usually cost
Speaker 4: a lot of money per coke, but when you get
Speaker 4: them in bulk like that. And I have a basement now,
Speaker 4: and guess what else I did that's very adult. I
Speaker 4: bought a basement freezer.
Speaker 3: Bought a basement that seems like a lot of basements.
Speaker 3: So for meat, yeah, alcohol.
Speaker 2: And other I don't think you should put soda in
Speaker 2: a freezer, right right right.
Speaker 4: I don't know what Google Ai has to say about that,
Speaker 4: but I'm pretty sure it's fucking bad.
Speaker 2: I hate that he googles ais things.
Speaker 3: You can put soda water in the freezer to cool
Speaker 3: it quickly if you have to.
Speaker 1: You can put anything in the freezer to cool it
Speaker 1: quickly if you have to. I do it with a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, Ai says it can it can it can burst.
Speaker 3: That has happened, and that'll stare the shit out of it.
Speaker 2: That advice to put something in the freezer to cool
Speaker 2: it quickly.
Speaker 4: How many of us have ever said, I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: in the freezer to cool it quickly, but I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take it out and.
Speaker 2: Then you forget.
Speaker 3: Like what I do is I take I got a
Speaker 3: hack here, or you take you got a can that's
Speaker 3: room temperature and you take a paper towel, you drink
Speaker 3: it in water. Yeah, you wrap it around and you
Speaker 3: put in the freezer and freeze the ice quickly and
Speaker 3: it works quick you do that.
Speaker 1: That's like a wine hack as well. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to cool down, like an Alberini or something super quick,
Speaker 1: you can also take an ice bucket with water in it.
Speaker 1: You pour a ton of salt in it. The salt
Speaker 1: lowers the freezing point of water, so the water can
Speaker 1: get below thirty two degrees fahrenheit without freezing, and then
Speaker 1: you could put the bottle in it and it will
Speaker 1: be way cool as down much faster.
Speaker 3: Huh nice, look at us, we're all look, we're all
Speaker 3: very smart.
Speaker 1: What's that? What else is new?
Speaker 3: I went to Japan?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Mary, what do you do up to?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a really busy time for me, Dan,
Speaker 4: what was going on?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, most interesting thing? Yes, we said, Oh, I had
Speaker 3: a fun time when I got on the wrong bullet
Speaker 3: train and uh if I if there had not been
Speaker 3: a stop coming up, I would have been stuck on
Speaker 3: the wrong bullet train for like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Which is quite the distance on a bullet.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good chunk of the way across Japan.
Speaker 2: So I'm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well it basically was because I had a
Speaker 3: reserved seat on the bullet train. So I get on
Speaker 3: the car and I look at it, like immediately leaves
Speaker 3: the station and so it's moving and I noticed there's
Speaker 3: a guy sitting in my seat and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: hopefully he speaks English, Hopefully this is all okay. And
Speaker 3: I pointed at the thing. I was like, oh, is
Speaker 3: this mine? And he was like, I forgot how he
Speaker 3: let me know, but basically it was clear I was
Speaker 3: on the wrong train. Oh yeah, because he gave his
Speaker 3: son had a Google Translate thing, and it was like,
Speaker 3: you're on the wrong train. And so I'm just standing
Speaker 3: there on the bullet train. There's like one hundred people
Speaker 3: sitting there, yeah, hurdling across Japan at two hundred miles
Speaker 3: an hour, standing and everyone's looking at me, and he's clear,
Speaker 3: I'm the dumbass American. I got all my luggage and
Speaker 3: stuff with me.
Speaker 1: You could pass for Japanese, I think.
Speaker 3: So I've heard that, thank you. Yeah. So it was
Speaker 3: just like a hole back and forth, and I did
Speaker 3: get to understanding where I needed to go before the
Speaker 3: last opportunity to get off the train. So I got off,
Speaker 3: got on the next one. It was fine. But that
Speaker 3: bullet train's good as hell. Like Japan has a lot
Speaker 3: of things just figured out, Like there's a lot of
Speaker 3: good food. The transportation stuff, it's just it's a it's clean,
Speaker 3: it's safe. It's just a chol fucking country. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess I've only been in Tokyo and Kyoto, but man,
Speaker 3: both super impressive, like really out of that place. I
Speaker 3: flew into Tokyo and then took the train down to Kyoto.
Speaker 3: Yeah coo so and yeah it get all sorts of
Speaker 3: like fun little coffees and onigiri and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And you know, you get a Boss coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get a couple of beers and then bring
Speaker 3: it on the on the train. It was fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got I got Boss Boss was great and just
Speaker 3: ate so much seven to eleven snack stuff while I
Speaker 3: was out there. It was awesome. So but yeah, I
Speaker 3: also went to the Nintendo Museum, which I wrote a
Speaker 3: big thing on GameSpot dot com if you want to
Speaker 3: read all the details. But long story short, it is fantastic.
Speaker 3: It's open now to the public, so I'm curious to
Speaker 3: see how it is for people going in with you know,
Speaker 3: crowds and lines and stuff like that. I'm curious how
Speaker 3: how good, how well that's handled, you know, because that's
Speaker 3: the one thing I couldn't get a sense of while
Speaker 3: I was there because it was just like a few
Speaker 3: press people there. So but yeah, it's incredibly impressive for me,
Speaker 3: a Nintendo fan, a collector, it is just like the
Speaker 3: could not have done a better job. I don't think I.
Speaker 4: Heard the plushies. The giant plushies were like a big deal.
Speaker 3: There is a Nintendo sixty four controller on top of
Speaker 3: the fridge behind me there.
Speaker 2: Let me see it.
Speaker 3: Go get it, get.
Speaker 2: It, go get it.
Speaker 1: I've been Japan in a while.
Speaker 2: I spend ages for me and I'm so into going.
Speaker 4: But I don't have a good excuse outside of like
Speaker 4: personal reasons. But that's a huge trip to plan, right,
Speaker 4: Like that's a lot to plan for, Whereas like if
Speaker 4: it's a work trip, it's like, oh, well I have
Speaker 4: to go to Japan for three days, and like that seems.
Speaker 2: Like worth doing. But dang, yeah I really want to go.
Speaker 1: It went for a resumebal seven thing back in the day,
Speaker 1: and then cool kind of step and nice.
Speaker 2: Fuck what it's so solid.
Speaker 3: No, don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: No, nobody, nobody buy the video version this this week.
Speaker 3: Pay trend numbers going up. Now, look at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if only, if, if only it was easy that
Speaker 1: easy to find in real life, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What that's a pretty cool pillow.
Speaker 3: Yes, I want to get more we modes. They had
Speaker 3: a Famicom controllers, super Famicom controllers, but the sixty four
Speaker 3: one is just such a goofy controller that I love
Speaker 3: so much. So having a giant pillow of it felt
Speaker 3: like I had to buy some extra luggage to fit
Speaker 3: that in and check that.
Speaker 1: The child, how did you?
Speaker 3: I went to don Quixote and bought a thing that's
Speaker 3: like one of those tiny like bags and you unzip
Speaker 3: it and it's like a sixty five liter thing and
Speaker 3: you can check it. And if TSA had checked that bag,
Speaker 3: they would have thought it was just some dumb ass
Speaker 3: kid flying from Japan. It was a giant Nintendo sixty
Speaker 3: four controller and like a couple hundred dollars worth of candy.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite food?
Speaker 3: You got Coco Chibanya, Dad goes in New York. Cooko
Speaker 3: Chibania is incredible. It's just got the takato curry with
Speaker 3: the cheese. It's all delicious.
Speaker 4: You can't they make it perfect every time. It's so
Speaker 4: it's so fucking delicious. I think it is the best
Speaker 4: thing that people can get. And it's so funny because
Speaker 4: they're everywhere and they're not special, but they're beautiful and.
Speaker 3: Perfect, they're cheap, they're everywhere. They are just god damn,
Speaker 3: it's so great that that was one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: When I went with the ten Terry back in the day,
Speaker 3: we would either several times per trip and have.
Speaker 4: Not had any Yeah, that's a great suggestion too for
Speaker 4: anyone who's going there.
Speaker 2: Just go to a cocoa.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You have a great time, You enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll appreciate where we're going tomorrow for dinner. It's
Speaker 1: MENKOI soo Ramen on Cornelia in the village.
Speaker 3: Nice. Nice, and we in some good ramen places when
Speaker 3: I lived out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting chili. So I'm in soup mode, I know.
Speaker 1: But like it's adjacent to soup for sure. No, definitely
Speaker 1: adjacent to soup. Noodles is cereal soup, No, not at all,
Speaker 1: Cereal cold cold Cereal has soup. Also has noodles is
Speaker 1: the name of.
Speaker 3: But it's there's a ratio.
Speaker 1: Gaspacho okay, but Cereal has always doing that and Noodle
Speaker 1: was trying.
Speaker 2: To use gaspacho to his benefit.
Speaker 3: It has to be mostly liquid to count as a soup.
Speaker 3: Ramen is mostly noodle. The weight if you were to
Speaker 3: put it on like you know, the like Injustice for
Speaker 3: All Scales.
Speaker 1: Soup is not the majority of the weight in soup
Speaker 1: is not in the liquid either.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Wait oh in soup, yes, no, you're having some shitty soup.
Speaker 3: Then tomato soup is mostly liquid.
Speaker 1: Okay to tomato soup has no chunks. So I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like chicken noodle or like potato potato soup.
Speaker 3: Does potato soup have a full I've only had tomato soup?
Speaker 2: Have you ever had like a loaded Why.
Speaker 1: This soup expert? If you've only had tomato soup?
Speaker 3: Because I just know how the world works, Mike.
Speaker 4: A this let's use it against you.
Speaker 3: Also, is ramen soup? Look, we don't need to talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: Well, well, well, yeah, finally something for mary to be clear.
Speaker 4: Actually pro ai, I'm gonna google it because I want
Speaker 4: to make sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unclear the way they word it, it
Speaker 3: is unclear.
Speaker 1: Solah No, okay. To be clear, I don't really like
Speaker 1: if I'm going out for ramen, I don't say I'm
Speaker 1: in a soup mood. I was quoting George Costanza and
Speaker 1: I was just saying I'm in soup mode because it's
Speaker 1: chili and romen is adjacent. So we're going to men
Speaker 1: Koido for the record, If anybody's ever in New York
Speaker 1: and you're down in the village, go to Cornelia Street,
Speaker 1: all youse swifty fans will know she used to live there.
Speaker 1: But there's a place called men Koisado Ramen. They don't
Speaker 1: take reservations. They also have really good tunkatsu. They have
Speaker 1: a good sake selection, really good beer selection. But the
Speaker 1: spicy show you Tokyo, Show you Ramen is really good,
Speaker 1: like Crimson Broth. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Had some ramen out there too, Yeah, it was fantastic,
Speaker 3: really good soup.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The word like it says okay Ai says which you
Speaker 3: can't trust it. It says, yes, ramen is a Japanese
Speaker 3: noodle soup. So it's unclear.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, well is fa soup?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fa? If fu is soup, then ramen is definitely soup.
Speaker 3: It's skinnier noodles and the bamboo doesn't weigh a lot,
Speaker 3: so I think the weight thing would be more liquid.
Speaker 1: Is your fa only does it only have noodles in bamboo?
Speaker 3: I get some meat in there, but it's like a
Speaker 3: little little tiny like slices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hoist and sauce. It's hungry.
Speaker 3: It's soupy.
Speaker 1: We're just kidding.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. Hungry Now Daddy needs is ramen?
Speaker 3: Now it's during a soilent is soilent soup?
Speaker 1: I have no idea cold.
Speaker 4: Don't you bring up gaspacho. It's cold, so it doesn't count.
Speaker 4: Soilent is served cold.
Speaker 3: So gaespoto is not soup.
Speaker 2: If you bring up gaspacho one more time.
Speaker 1: But if you haven't left over soup, that's cold.
Speaker 2: That's all you have. Gaspacho and google ai.
Speaker 3: You could have cold tomato soup.
Speaker 1: But it's pretty soup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't turn into a sandwich.
Speaker 1: Right, But if gaspacho is cold, then what's stopping it
Speaker 1: from being soup?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's soup. I think Mary's just being unreasonable.
Speaker 4: I it is soup, but it's not a good argument
Speaker 4: for why, Like all liquids aren't soup because guy now.
Speaker 1: Compared to cereal. The soup had a bad argument about
Speaker 1: another form of soup?
Speaker 3: Is my veg near a soup?
Speaker 1: Gods?
Speaker 2: Like you see do you see why I said gaspacho
Speaker 2: can't count Pandora's box. It's like debating with the biggest
Speaker 2: ding dong. We know that.
Speaker 3: It's a chilled soup. It's chilled soup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we know that it's It's fine, but you
Speaker 4: open up the gate that all liquid is soup, which
Speaker 4: is stupid. Like obviously a smoothie is not soup, right, like.
Speaker 3: If you had a hot smoothie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does dictate soup? There have to be a
Speaker 1: meat broth, meat based broth because spot because.
Speaker 2: You can have vegetable soup. Everything vegetable soupab.
Speaker 1: Salt water with vegetables in it?
Speaker 3: Is the ocean a soup?
Speaker 2: Split pea soup?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the ocean if not the soup
Speaker 2: of the earth?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you ask Google AI to define soup?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see define soup. This is just from the dictionary.
Speaker 3: A liquid dish typically made by boiling meat, fish, or vegetables,
Speaker 3: et cetera in stock or water.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no boiling with smoothies.
Speaker 3: Is it boiling with ramen?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, for sure? Is there boiling?
Speaker 3: I have no idea about that happens?
Speaker 2: I think so here here's here's the trick.
Speaker 4: Gaspacho is originally was hot and then it's served chilled.
Speaker 4: Oh so it's it's hot tomato soup and then they
Speaker 4: chill it and serve it chilled.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 3: I think there's just some broth.
Speaker 2: Why did you say that?
Speaker 1: Because I'm hungry as fun.
Speaker 2: Now it's it's hungry and the same as horny. There
Speaker 2: was something something really stressful.
Speaker 3: Meat sweat. If you just like, if you like grabbed
Speaker 3: like a cow's leg like a towel and turned it
Speaker 3: like broth would come out.
Speaker 1: Many people have thought that surprisingly enough, no, I believe no.
Speaker 1: I believe the meat undoubtedly adds flavor to the broth.
Speaker 1: But broth, there's like there could be bone broth as well.
Speaker 1: There's a bone broth place downtown New York, and Simone
Speaker 1: de roche For is obsessed with it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd want that.
Speaker 1: Mean it tastes good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you eat bones all the time.
Speaker 3: You don't know about it ever, eating a single bone.
Speaker 4: You were eating bone adjacent meats and like dishes all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like chicken nuggets were hanging out by bones
Speaker 3: at one point.
Speaker 4: An ingredient in tongkatsu ramen is it's it's bones, baby.
Speaker 1: You're eating bone broth with a lot of.
Speaker 2: You're eating bone broth from every ramen is bone bro.
Speaker 1: Yes, beef, well, the pork is just added to it.
Speaker 2: Roth is bone based.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: This man chicken tongkatsu uh or it has bones.
Speaker 3: You don't eat those though, Yeah, like with a buffalo wing,
Speaker 3: you don't just swallow it.
Speaker 1: You don't speak for yourself.
Speaker 3: Now, I bet you could.
Speaker 2: I eat my chicken wings like a duck shred.
Speaker 1: Call the doctor the next day because you're going to
Speaker 1: shred and tushy, oh.
Speaker 3: God, just sitting out a bunch of bones.
Speaker 4: That's why they say you're not supposed to give bones
Speaker 4: to dogs, is because it can like split while they're
Speaker 4: shitting and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Splitshits splits.
Speaker 3: Did you eat full on bones?
Speaker 2: Totally?
Speaker 4: Haven't you ever seen a cartoon before? Every cartoon is
Speaker 4: like munging on a bone.
Speaker 3: That's like a fetching or a chew on him thing,
Speaker 3: you know, they.
Speaker 2: Absolutely are ripping it apart and consuming it.
Speaker 1: Go into a dog.
Speaker 4: Store shaking his Head's not a dog, that's just a
Speaker 4: toy with her, and you've been giving soft chose to
Speaker 4: for the last ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went back into that pet store where you
Speaker 1: bought that catnip that you fed me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good That was.
Speaker 2: A good time.
Speaker 4: I also bought a taxi for Semon. Taxi dog toy there.
Speaker 3: Does that still a survivor? Does a semone destroy toys?
Speaker 2: Simon doesn't destroy toys. He like kind of nibbles at them.
Speaker 4: And he does like to play fetch, which is when
Speaker 4: I throw it and he catches it and then drops it,
Speaker 4: runs runs somewhere else and forgets that we were playing
Speaker 4: a game.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's bored of you or it's like
Speaker 1: a middle finger, or he really just doesn't know what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: I like to think that he just doesn't understand the
Speaker 4: concept of return.
Speaker 2: He likes chasing.
Speaker 4: So I actually invented a game with Simon called Treat
Speaker 4: Fetch where we go to the basement which is carpeted,
Speaker 4: so he has traction down there and.
Speaker 2: I throw treats. I just bought it.
Speaker 4: I throw a treat and he chases it like a
Speaker 4: like he would like a rabbit in the wild, and
Speaker 4: he gobbles it up and then he looks around and
Speaker 4: then he runs back to me, and we just we
Speaker 4: played treat fetch all the time. I constructed it because
Speaker 4: I couldn't get him to run. My dog like has
Speaker 4: no interest in, like actually exercising. Treat fetch is the
Speaker 4: only time I can get that dude to sprint.
Speaker 3: I feel like Simon's shape is not conducive to running.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, he's just like an athlete.
Speaker 3: He's a nugget.
Speaker 2: With little stump shot put Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean he's got a little stubby chicken nugget body
Speaker 4: and legs and no tail and he can't breathe well.
Speaker 1: But I think that with the right prerequisites to the
Speaker 1: varsity athlete.
Speaker 2: The right throw of a treat.
Speaker 4: I mean you really see the legs fly, and I
Speaker 4: mean it's just so aerodynamic. It's like, have you ever
Speaker 4: seen someone throw a potato at full speed?
Speaker 3: No, I've seen them launch them. Have you seen people
Speaker 3: throw potatoes?
Speaker 2: That's actually the same concept.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think of replace someone throwing with a potato launcher,
Speaker 4: and that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of like what my dog looks like in a field
Speaker 2: at full speed.
Speaker 3: Two guy wants to set his beard on fire with
Speaker 3: a potato launcher.
Speaker 2: He makes the same noise too, flu.
Speaker 1: How do you set Where was the flame coming from?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was a very old, very drunk
Speaker 3: man with the giant beard. My dad and I ran
Speaker 3: into it the Vegas lounge and he was talking about, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got a potato launcher, and he lost like half
Speaker 3: of his beard once when he like some sort of
Speaker 3: fire from it, like totally just ignited a beard.
Speaker 1: Are spud guns made from like PVC piping?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, well, the rudimentary ones, because I
Speaker 4: think you can do it in your backyard, right, Like
Speaker 4: I think there's like homemade potato guns, and then there's
Speaker 4: like legitimate ones that you don't you fucking ai this.
Speaker 3: On Amazon for potato launchers.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's like legitimate ones with uh airsoft guns, right,
Speaker 4: these like air canisters and stuff like that. But I'm
Speaker 4: sure like there's all sorts of redneck versions of it.
Speaker 3: Where they just oh, you got different versions. Here. You
Speaker 3: can get the Bully potato gun two point zero. You
Speaker 3: can get to the city slicker or the urban warrior
Speaker 3: potato gun.
Speaker 1: What's the difference between the city slicker and the urban warrior.
Speaker 3: Great question. Urban warrior has better reviews. It is cheaper. Oh,
Speaker 3: what's this barrel lengked? Okay, it's barrel length diameter. The
Speaker 3: diameter is the same the length eighteen inches for the
Speaker 3: urban warrior. It's a twelve inches for the city slicker. Okay,
Speaker 3: pre city types.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm closer to an urban warrior.
Speaker 2: Oh, we got a city boy here. That's a lieve
Speaker 2: inch potato launchers.
Speaker 1: Those measurements seem yeah, come on now, don't watch the video.
Speaker 1: So the longer one is less expensive but better reviewed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, No, the cheapest one is the lowest reviewed,
Speaker 3: and the most expensive one is also poorly reviewed. It's
Speaker 3: the middle. It's the urban when you want, but short
Speaker 3: the city slicker, that's true. And the bully is huge.
Speaker 3: It seems six rounds. It's a it's a six shooter
Speaker 3: of potatoes.
Speaker 1: That's just I can't.
Speaker 4: Think of a use case where I gotta have I
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta shoot one potato and have five in
Speaker 4: the pocket just in case someone else.
Speaker 2: Comes at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never, you don't know.
Speaker 2: All those wild hogs.
Speaker 4: I gotta have my six potatoes slicker like a fucking
Speaker 4: Western and you're just like this towning big enough for the.
Speaker 1: Two of them.
Speaker 3: Potato guns. You have to use hairspray, aerosol hair spray.
Speaker 1: You have to. I've seen in like videos they tap,
Speaker 1: they release the pressure really quick on the hair spray,
Speaker 1: and then it just shoots the potato.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, maybe maybe it's.
Speaker 2: And you see this shoots the potato.
Speaker 3: It's a barrel knife? Is it like a bayonet?
Speaker 2: World War One? If you can't, don't shoot the potato.
Speaker 1: Fallout weapon.
Speaker 3: It says barrel knife, but there's not. That must mean
Speaker 3: something else because there's no knife. There's no blade visible
Speaker 3: on this launcher. Oh cool pictures. Yeah, there's fire. There's fire.
Speaker 3: Why I don't know, but there's like a flame coming
Speaker 3: out of these guys. Look cool, don't don't you have
Speaker 3: to hold it like an Sorry, I'm trying to take
Speaker 3: in this this customer picture here, Uh wow, this is cool.
Speaker 3: We should get these.
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't know whether it's are they
Speaker 1: like in good standing spud guns? Do?
Speaker 3: You can buy them on Amazon? So they're legal? We
Speaker 3: could do like a charity stream or something where for
Speaker 3: an incentive for like one hundred dollars donation, one of
Speaker 3: us shoots the other in the stomach of a potato.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think they're Yeah, I think they're pretty easy.
Speaker 2: Why you should not even own anything?
Speaker 1: Can you look up remotely now? Like, can you look
Speaker 1: up how many psi? How many? Is that the right phrasing?
Speaker 1: How many psi? Does it? It is pneumatic? That just
Speaker 1: means it's pressurized.
Speaker 3: It's like the thing of the bank, right.
Speaker 4: I cannot believe within like the tubes or one minute
Speaker 4: of you wanting to buy a gun.
Speaker 2: The idea was that we would shoot each other with
Speaker 2: a gun as a war.
Speaker 1: I really don't think safe.
Speaker 3: I'm not a gun owner.
Speaker 1: I'm not a gun owner or a doctor, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that's safe.
Speaker 3: Vinnie was not happy with me once when somebody sent
Speaker 3: us a mail bag with a bunch of gimmicks in it,
Speaker 3: and one of them was like one of those crazy
Speaker 3: slingshots that it's got like the forearm rest and stuff like,
Speaker 3: it's like a heavy duty slingshot. And I put in
Speaker 3: the same mail bag there's like a Goku action figure
Speaker 3: and I'm I think it's in the video that went
Speaker 3: up on Giant Bond. I put the goku in the slingshot,
Speaker 3: and I like pointed at ven. What the fuck are
Speaker 3: you doing? Put that? Don't point that at me? Oh right,
Speaker 3: I guess this is a weapon.
Speaker 4: You don't point slingshots. I couldn't imagine you with a
Speaker 4: potato gun. I feel like the first thing you would
Speaker 4: do is like reverse it and look down the barrel
Speaker 4: and be like, is.
Speaker 2: There any potatoes in there? And click the trigger and just.
Speaker 3: Shoot it down my throat and you have to chew it.
Speaker 1: No, it's fifty to seventy ps my teeth. Yes. A
Speaker 1: spud gun, also known as a potato gun, can hurt
Speaker 1: and cause serious injuries, including death.
Speaker 2: Dude, damn, I don't think you can kill yourself.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can, like but dwire yourself with
Speaker 3: a potato launcher.
Speaker 1: Oh there's a video on ai budfiles dot com. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's a video. Oh this guy's got his shirt off.
Speaker 1: He's about to sh shoot him. He said, no nuts,
Speaker 1: no face. Okay, this looks bad.
Speaker 2: It's fucking dangerous potato guns. No, I'll get you a
Speaker 2: potato and you can throw it.
Speaker 3: So much more disappointing than a potato gun.
Speaker 1: That looks like it would like break your rib.
Speaker 2: Let's try do some serious blood.
Speaker 1: Files dot com and watch the video. It didn't kill him,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, I'm not encouraging. Don't do it?
Speaker 3: Would you? Mike on a dare when you're here for
Speaker 3: a Game of the year. Can I go to my
Speaker 3: driveway and I shoot you a potato gun in the stomach?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, hard, no easy, cass? Okay, what about from like
Speaker 3: down the street? No, okay, you just want to try
Speaker 3: to catch it?
Speaker 1: Imagine how many patrons we get though for that bonus video.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't really catch that. I wonder how accurate
Speaker 1: it would be at that distance.
Speaker 4: For fifty dollars, I'll call the police when Dan tries
Speaker 4: to shoot someone with a potato gun.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, spud files dot com.
Speaker 2: Stock sput files.
Speaker 3: Go to the wiki on sput files dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 3: go to the spud files wiki and look at the
Speaker 3: first picture of the advanced combustion cannon potato gun that
Speaker 3: looks like a fucking ghostbuster gimmick.
Speaker 1: Spud Holy shit. Yeah, are are we big spot files people? Now?
Speaker 3: I think we're big spud files people? Is this a
Speaker 3: whole wiki about potato guns? Oh?
Speaker 1: Wow, people really get into this. I didn't realize this.
Speaker 3: They got miniature guns were spudding jokes?
Speaker 1: Podcast about this?
Speaker 3: Oh, let's read the sputting jokes? Where is that in
Speaker 3: the wiki?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You might be a you might be a spud
Speaker 2: gunner if.
Speaker 3: Where's the jug gunners? Wait, let's let's read. Let's let's
Speaker 3: alternate and tell jokes.
Speaker 4: You might be a spud gunner if you get excited
Speaker 4: over a one point five inch SDR twenty one PVC pipe.
Speaker 3: All right, where do these go?
Speaker 1: Where do you go? Wait? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Where's the jokes?
Speaker 1: Where you're seeing jokes?
Speaker 3: Had to get to the jokes?
Speaker 1: Alright?
Speaker 2: Hole, calm down.
Speaker 1: You wiki looks like a fucking call dubys Bombie's weapon.
Speaker 3: Yeah it does. Okay, okay, I got the first one.
Speaker 3: I don't know. You might be a spud gunner if
Speaker 3: you put every object you come across into one of
Speaker 3: two categories good for ammo or not good for ammo.
Speaker 1: Oh, you might be a spud gunner if you know
Speaker 1: how to pronounce a pneumatic.
Speaker 2: Mary got cut off.
Speaker 4: You might be a spud gunner if you get angry
Speaker 4: at people destroying pipes.
Speaker 2: That's stupid.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's it. Yeah, you might be a spud gunner.
Speaker 3: If you spend more time thinking about valves than about women,
Speaker 3: you might be.
Speaker 1: A spud gunner. If you bought a PC partly because
Speaker 1: of spud files, Mary, you.
Speaker 4: Might be a spud gunner if these are so stupid
Speaker 4: every time you pass the potatoes in the supermarket, you
Speaker 4: grab the biggest bag they had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake cut the last like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3: He might be a spudgunner. If you see a gas
Speaker 3: meter or other plumbing assembly and you think if I
Speaker 3: had taken apart, can I build a spud gun out
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 1: Oh? I think I am one.
Speaker 3: He might be a spud gunner. If you bought a
Speaker 3: PC partly because of sput files.
Speaker 1: Did you see the top there's a note from Ragnarok.
Speaker 1: Apparently one of the editor's name is Ragnarok.
Speaker 3: Oh hell, yes, yeah, can we get him on? Okay,
Speaker 3: next time one of us is gone, we're getting rag
Speaker 3: all no.
Speaker 1: Spud gunners, any of them, Tell them to hit us up.
Speaker 1: Fire Escape has at gmail dot com. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: a good emails.
Speaker 3: These are really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be strange part of the Internet that we
Speaker 4: have stumbled across.
Speaker 3: It kind of feels like old Internet to me, where
Speaker 3: there's some random websites and stuff like I think I
Speaker 3: like spud files dot com.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's let's look into them more and see
Speaker 1: if we should like him.
Speaker 3: We'll do a side podcast, Patren only podcast about spud.
Speaker 2: Files Spudgun the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm looking. They used cans of axe for the
Speaker 3: for the spray. That's a waste of axe though, that's true,
Speaker 3: that's true. Best use of Acts the year I bought
Speaker 3: an Act back.
Speaker 1: In the day, oh way back in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was in a hollister the other day because I
Speaker 4: was in the mall to go to DENTI Fung and
Speaker 4: the hollister. Now yeah, oh dent Tiphung is funny, but uh,
Speaker 4: the hollister.
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll get to it.
Speaker 4: The hollister has a spray that was very similar to
Speaker 4: Axe Body spray, and I think it's emulating Acts, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't want to use the brand name AX. I
Speaker 4: think the brand of Acts is dead, but body sprays
Speaker 4: that smell bad, that are like affordable and like just
Speaker 4: like a can that you spray on yourself.
Speaker 1: Is in I think the grocery store yesterday.
Speaker 3: A guy. It's very much around.
Speaker 1: I smell that, is it?
Speaker 3: Poppin got good reviews on Amazon.
Speaker 2: That's not the indicator.
Speaker 3: Okay. Wikipedia list of Axe products eighty three. Acts have
Speaker 3: been around since eighty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's probably like a lot of products of
Speaker 4: outdated dead brands.
Speaker 1: They probably started as a spud gun company.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, I mean good names.
Speaker 2: Shot in the stomach with like a badly smelling right.
Speaker 3: It smells like a douchebag.
Speaker 4: A shotgunned in the face by a beautiful sense smells
Speaker 4: of sandalwood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is DENTI Fung didn't.
Speaker 4: Taiphung is a Chinese restaurant that's known for their soup
Speaker 4: dumplings that have an iconic ooh Dan, correct me, twelve
Speaker 4: fold system. It might be thirteen, but they have thirteen.
Speaker 4: I think it's thirteen folds in each soup dumpling. They're handmade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh those dumplings are incredible. Yeah. You have the
Speaker 3: little spoon thing to put them in and.
Speaker 2: Change your life.
Speaker 3: I had the PA. It was so good.
Speaker 2: The soup dumplings are so good.
Speaker 4: The first time I ever had it was in Vegas,
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking to myself, this is the greatest
Speaker 4: restaurant in Vegas I've ever been to.
Speaker 2: I gotta go to Vegas just to go to this restaurant.
Speaker 4: And then I looked it up and there's two within
Speaker 4: twenty minutes of my house.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was a chain. That's awesome. I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta find those more cities. That is great.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: It's known for their soup dumps, but they have really
Speaker 4: good quality.
Speaker 2: Bar no matter which one you go to, I gotta
Speaker 2: get my dumps.
Speaker 1: Uh, soup dumps is my least favorite kind of dump.
Speaker 3: Axe launched in the US two. That's why we didn't
Speaker 3: hear about it until two thousand and two. They launched
Speaker 3: with Apollo, Kilo, Phoenix, Tsunami, Maniac, and Voodoo Flavors.
Speaker 1: I remember Ko.
Speaker 3: They lousted Conviction and three Favors joined the World of Conviction.
Speaker 3: Join the World of Conquest.
Speaker 1: Explains a lot about Dan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan thinks that axe is soup because he's fucking idiot.
Speaker 5: I guess it is, whether or not soup because it's liquid,
Speaker 5: he's been sucking it down.
Speaker 3: What would AI say if is axe body spray a soup? Okay,
Speaker 3: generate okay? No axe body sprays had deodorant Okay. I
Speaker 3: see conviction. Join the world of conviction, Join the world
Speaker 3: of conquest. Because if you can have conviction, no woman
Speaker 3: can say no, no woman who can turn her face
Speaker 3: because women like men safe unite to this world. That
Speaker 3: was the tagline of conviction in O three.
Speaker 2: I mean that should be illegal. That's like good bad marketing.
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that it's even called conquest is
Speaker 4: also fucked up.
Speaker 3: No, it's called conviction, but it talks about being in
Speaker 3: the world of conquest, and the commercial showed many men
Speaker 3: who were successful with women. At the end of the advertising,
Speaker 3: there are thousands of men holding axe conviction and singing
Speaker 3: an a choir by a statue of a man also
Speaker 3: holding axe conviction. That just sounds sounds like the ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds really bad. Well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: turn I don't if I turned a corner and saw
Speaker 1: a thousand men holding acts singing around a statue of
Speaker 1: another man with an axe.
Speaker 4: With axe that's that's why women need potato guns.
Speaker 2: We have to protect ourselves.
Speaker 3: Vice launched and instaid it will turn nice girl's naughty
Speaker 3: because there's forbidden fruit in the fragrance.
Speaker 2: We're bitten fruit. Yeah, you know, we can't deny it,
Speaker 2: just like Eve. We have to have that sweet, sweet fruit.
Speaker 3: The commercial for Vice used a Morgan Freeman lookalike.
Speaker 2: Couldn't get the real deal, could you?
Speaker 1: ACKs? Oh.
Speaker 3: Dark Temptation was a chocolate smelling fragrance. Advertising applies that
Speaker 3: because women like chocolate, they will find men who smell
Speaker 3: of chocolate. Irresistible god. Oh okay. Advertising features a man
Speaker 3: who turns into chocolate when he sprays himself with axe.
Speaker 3: He then goes on to be eaten by a series
Speaker 3: of women.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Oh it doesn't elaborate.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, in its defense, if a man
Speaker 2: turned into a bar of chocolate, I my etha, yeah,
Speaker 2: but understand the hot way. I would just consume them
Speaker 2: like a praying mantis.
Speaker 3: Oh so score. The flavor was supposed to make men
Speaker 3: attractive to women and they'll need a oh wow. In
Speaker 3: the States, they called it click because it says it'll
Speaker 3: make you so attracted women that they will need a
Speaker 3: clicker to keep score of the number of women who
Speaker 3: check them out. The commercial in the US featured nick
Speaker 3: Leche getting outscored by a hotel worker who uses it,
Speaker 3: but in the British version it's ben Affleck Acts gave
Speaker 3: away free clickers to count how many ladies find you
Speaker 3: irresistible because you were clicks?
Speaker 4: Was it like, was it done in an actual test
Speaker 4: environment science?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was like a double blind study
Speaker 3: or yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Man as is really a thing, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4: I don't understand why men's marketing has gone down such
Speaker 4: a path, why every set has to be called like
Speaker 4: concrete concubine, and about how like it's gonna you're just
Speaker 4: gonna get your dick sucked completely dry if you walk
Speaker 4: outside with this, because people can't can't believe how horny
Speaker 4: they get, because.
Speaker 3: Can't leave your driveway without getting your dick secked. You're
Speaker 3: selling your friends steps. You've seen Mary, You've seen the
Speaker 3: doctor Pepper ten commercial nut with my Internet.
Speaker 1: You laughed like a full six seconds after I said that.
Speaker 1: I was like, was that that bad of a joke?
Speaker 3: Well, it was a thinker joke. It took us that
Speaker 3: long to take at the joke. Yeah, it was. We
Speaker 3: didn't get it at first. Uh, Mary, have you seen
Speaker 3: the doctor Pepper ten commercial.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think that is the most egregious example I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: It was a ten Manly Calories because you know, they
Speaker 3: launched like Coke zero and zero branded stuff because men
Speaker 3: didn't want to be a diet that's for women. So
Speaker 3: that's why zero so does exist and so. But Doctor
Speaker 3: Pepper took it further. And this was like later than
Speaker 3: you would expect, like mid to late two thousands, I
Speaker 3: would say, And it was doct Pepper ten with ten
Speaker 3: manly calories, and every ad was you know, some guy
Speaker 3: on a safari or going through the jungle or you know,
Speaker 3: doing a weight living competition and he goes Doctor Pepper ten,
Speaker 3: it's not for women. Not that aired in the States regularly.
Speaker 3: Ten manly calories like cardboard.
Speaker 4: I mean, ten Manly Calories is funny and cheeky. I
Speaker 4: think there's something that we can all laugh about. But
Speaker 4: the tagline not for women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's at every commercial ended with someone looking at
Speaker 3: the camera and saying it's not for women.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: I think obviously, like that's a bad ad, But what
Speaker 4: it really says is more about the marketing prowess of
Speaker 4: what it takes to market to men, right. I think
Speaker 4: that that's the sadder story. It's not so much that
Speaker 4: like Ax and Doctor Pepper have had these egregious taglines.
Speaker 4: It's the fact that you know that these were tested
Speaker 4: in groups, like you know, in in blind studies where
Speaker 4: they would be like which ad makes you want to
Speaker 4: buy a Doctor Pepper Moore, and men were like, you know,
Speaker 4: the one that says it's not for women because I'm
Speaker 4: also not a woman and I don't want to be drinking.
Speaker 4: Women drink, And I think that's like what's stressful about it.
Speaker 4: Taglines are weird and like they should be shamed a
Speaker 4: little bit. But I think what's also strange is just
Speaker 4: the reflection of society that men are like, I will
Speaker 4: not wash my ass unless it says that it is
Speaker 4: like the most rugged, manly, not woman thing.
Speaker 2: That it possibly can. They've made lufahs that look.
Speaker 3: Like tired because yeah, yeah rugged loofahs yeah.
Speaker 4: Which we don't have a problem with here, We're fine.
Speaker 3: It's in a generational thinguse I think of like my
Speaker 3: dad and like everyone that he knows of his age
Speaker 3: in Kansas. You know, there are the types that like,
Speaker 3: you know, if I ordered a cocktail at a bar,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be mocked by everyone, just like ooh,
Speaker 3: got your cocktail, fancy little, you know, Like nowadays they
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't say like that's actually probably would like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a girl drink or whatever. But like that generation,
Speaker 3: I feel like does that all the time. Or maybe
Speaker 3: that's just the Midwest Kansas thing. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think that if you want to have a modern
Speaker 4: ad about like loofahs and cleaning.
Speaker 2: They should just call it the Paul Riker and it should.
Speaker 4: Be an ad of your dad in Vegas having a
Speaker 4: shit stain on his bed and.
Speaker 2: Being like, crap, I can't have a girl over like this.
Speaker 4: And then it just stops there and it's like, do
Speaker 4: you leave shit stains on your bed? Well, wash your
Speaker 4: ass with the Pall Riker system. We will send you
Speaker 4: one sponge and one bar of soap. Get in there,
Speaker 4: and that's it. Like, I don't think you need all
Speaker 4: these belts and whistles. Ye wash your butt.
Speaker 3: I've told you his big, our big Thanksgiving argument. We
Speaker 3: had a couple years ago with my dad and skid marks, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's yes, you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we probably did that on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring it up a lot.
Speaker 3: It's because it was crazy. It was a table full
Speaker 3: of people being like, what are you talking about? Your
Speaker 3: insane I'm like, oh, oh, everyone here's too good to
Speaker 3: admit that we all have skid marks all the time.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, we don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stuff he finds, the stuff he finds like
Speaker 1: not masculine. It's very funny to me.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because the thing is too he's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, this super masculine like he would admit like
Speaker 3: he is just a very uh like he'll pass out
Speaker 3: if he has to get like you know, blood drawn
Speaker 3: or something like that. He's very just like afraid of
Speaker 3: pain and things like that. And you know, never fought anyone,
Speaker 3: would be terrified if he had to. He's frequently scared.
Speaker 3: And yet he's always like, oh, real man, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have a real man beer. I'm gonna have a real
Speaker 3: man beery.
Speaker 2: You think would be like a good marketing ploy.
Speaker 4: I feel like it would be like, uh, a mint
Speaker 4: that looks like a cigarette butt.
Speaker 2: And then then when you.
Speaker 4: Put it in, it looks like you're eating a cigarette
Speaker 4: butt because you're like a man, but it's actually making
Speaker 4: your breath minty fresh.
Speaker 3: He did think he was manly because he drank out
Speaker 3: of a mountain do major mellon that he was using
Speaker 3: as a cigarette ash thing. So he drank his cigarette
Speaker 3: ashes and I was like, that's fucking disgusting, and he's like,
Speaker 3: my body, my body's fortified from the ashes.
Speaker 1: Man, body was fortified from the ashes.
Speaker 3: I think he just thought he was a man because
Speaker 3: he drank cigarette ashes and he didn't care about it,
Speaker 3: and I don't want about it. I'm a man.
Speaker 4: My body wash for Paul Riker would be like made
Speaker 4: in a gasoline tank a can, and it would he
Speaker 4: would like pour the gas tank on himself. But it's
Speaker 4: actually just like a really nice smelling soap.
Speaker 3: I think it's like a nice I'm guessing my dad
Speaker 3: has not bought a thing for his shower that is
Speaker 3: not I want to say he uses Irish spring. He
Speaker 3: definitely uses Purtplus. I don't think he has ever bought
Speaker 3: anything but Purtplus. In nineteen eighty eight, when I was showering,
Speaker 3: it was purt plus If I look in his bathroom today,
Speaker 3: it's purt plus, the same green ass bottle. It's only
Speaker 3: purtplus all the time. I actually iris spring sounds too
Speaker 3: fancy for him. It would be some like discount, like
Speaker 3: super duper cheap thing here's good. But with him it's
Speaker 3: always just the cheap does not matter. The quality does
Speaker 3: not matter. For him.
Speaker 4: It's it's as long as it's soap. I really don't care.
Speaker 4: I don't think we have to like, it doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be expensive or nice of any kind, as long
Speaker 4: as it's doing its job. I think what I'm talking
Speaker 4: about is just like the advertising ploys that allow men
Speaker 4: to be like, this is a manly experience and not
Speaker 4: for women because it looks like oil grease.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great getting over that ship because it's just
Speaker 3: so stupidly limiting for no reason where it's like I
Speaker 3: remember one of the first times I went to a bar,
Speaker 3: I didn't really know what to order, beer wise or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I ordered a zema because I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've seen these commercials. It seems probably tastes good, you know,
Speaker 3: for a starting drinker that doesn't really know beer. And
Speaker 3: it's just a whole night of everyone calling me gay basically.
Speaker 2: And the whole all the men took you out back
Speaker 2: and beat the shit out of you for having one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no no, they call me gay. For several hours,
Speaker 3: I'd ever ordered zema ever again. And then it's like, wait, no,
Speaker 3: drink the zema if you like the zema like I, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's nice getting over that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: All yeah, all a ploy we're so afraid of.
Speaker 1: I would make fun of you if you order at
Speaker 1: a bar, but I wouldn't call you gay. I would
Speaker 1: just say you have to.
Speaker 3: You would say that sucks, right, yea suck.
Speaker 2: What about it's not for women?
Speaker 3: Z mo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, masculine?
Speaker 3: What's mo?
Speaker 4: Well, it's and like flavor, okay.
Speaker 2: Substance that will make MO women?
Speaker 3: Okay, you are the this podcast.
Speaker 2: Wow, I can market the ship out of them.
Speaker 1: I only play the legend of Zeldo.
Speaker 3: I just googled is zeema a soup? And it is?
Speaker 3: It is a It's a malted beverage.
Speaker 1: What is I actually don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Let me look it up. It's a clear, lightly carbonated
Speaker 3: alcoholic beverage made and distributed by Cores. Uh, it's no
Speaker 3: it's discontinued in eight Okay.
Speaker 1: Clear lightly carbonated. Is it's just like high Noon.
Speaker 3: It's like like early Seltzer, like you know. It's when
Speaker 3: I think about like White Claw and stuff like that
Speaker 3: was ahead of its I think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sema was a trailblazer.
Speaker 4: Zeema crawled so that White Claw could run.
Speaker 3: They're a book, The Long, Slow Tortures Torturous Death of Zema. Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, here's why. Okay, this is why my dad
Speaker 3: would make fun of it. This writer cited Zema's perceived
Speaker 3: reputation as a girly man beverage and it's persistent parodying
Speaker 3: by late night TV host David Letterman. Okay, that's definitely
Speaker 3: why it was, like my dad's purview. Yeah, yeah, Saul, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: I feel like there was it was a common internet
Speaker 2: joke that Zema.
Speaker 1: Was for for like.
Speaker 4: Girls or people who like didn't know how to drink.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to like figure out how to say this.
Speaker 4: I know, I mean, and that comes out really sexist,
Speaker 4: but I think that's the whole pointing culture is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was that they were like men would never drink
Speaker 4: a zeema because that is for the ladies.
Speaker 3: I don't think alcohol choice. I remember, uh, it really
Speaker 3: shouldn't determined personality or anything. I remember when I was
Speaker 3: watching a lot of Deadwood. I was like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be cool like these dead Wood guys. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start drinking Oh, bullet bourbon that looks like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: bullet bourbon. I'm gonna drink out of this. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna bring a bottle of old Crow to all these
Speaker 3: house parties and stuff, and I'm gonna seem like a
Speaker 3: tough guy and like it's just it's just you taste.
Speaker 4: It and you were like, this doesn't taste good.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't get it was cheap. I was. I
Speaker 3: was Paul Record at that time. I realized today on
Speaker 3: Black Club there was a period in my life where
Speaker 3: I subscribed to Maxim stuff and fahm, yeah not yes,
Speaker 3: I say that that is the most embarrassing thing I've
Speaker 3: ever said, and I think I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying monthly for those each. No.
Speaker 3: I think I had some weird gimmick where I got
Speaker 3: up for free. I don't think I would have paid
Speaker 3: for it. I think it was some weird like, oh,
Speaker 3: you do this thing and you get pick a magazine.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, what was the gimmick that.
Speaker 1: You paid two hundred dollars in January and got the
Speaker 1: magazine throughout the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: No, it was I definitely got it free for some reason.
Speaker 3: But they would have like video game reviews and stuff
Speaker 3: in there, and I remember getting like stuff magazines. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I subscribed because of the ladies, and then I would
Speaker 3: read the video game reviews and be like these otherlers
Speaker 3: don't know what they're talking about, Like this is no
Speaker 3: e GM while you're on maxim toilet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I call the video games reading an FHM criticizing
Speaker 1: the games writing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh they got this totally wrong, like there
Speaker 3: should be a point higher. Definitely. I remember my step
Speaker 3: grandpa next to his toilet had a giant stack of playboys,
Speaker 3: and so whenever I went over there when I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, twelve thirteen, that age, I would just every
Speaker 3: time a shit, I would look over there and I
Speaker 3: just feel it's right there. I could just see boobs.
Speaker 3: I just have to open one of those. Because at
Speaker 3: the time, you know, we're talking like early Internet or
Speaker 3: I wasn't really looking like internet boobs or anything because
Speaker 3: I was assumed, well, I assume my parents were like
Speaker 3: tracking it. Of course they could, you know, But no,
Speaker 3: they weren't. So I was like, oh, this is a
Speaker 3: clear way I could see boobs. And but I was like,
Speaker 3: always so paranoid that adults must have a way of
Speaker 3: tracking and knowing if if you're watching porny stuff, and
Speaker 3: so I was like, they gotta know. There's got to
Speaker 3: be some sort of light that'll show fingerprints or something.
Speaker 3: There's got to be some like, you know, he probably
Speaker 3: took a picture of exactly like what angle it was on.
Speaker 4: There are DNA tests that would probably confirm your guilt.
Speaker 4: But I don't think that your parents would go to
Speaker 4: that lane.
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, but I just remember just every time
Speaker 3: I should just God damned, I wish I could look
Speaker 3: at boze, but I'm gonna get caught.
Speaker 1: I used to tear pages out of my oldest brothers
Speaker 1: playboys when I visited his house in college.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's adorable, because there's no way he wouldn't
Speaker 4: recognize a ripped page and be like, my stupid little
Speaker 4: morning brother, that's so cute.
Speaker 3: Could I tell you this is a girl story?
Speaker 1: God stop me if I've told you this.
Speaker 3: My dad, who is always trying to, you know, buy
Speaker 3: things to sell them on eBay and stuff, went to
Speaker 3: an estate sale once and this was like three four
Speaker 3: years ago, not that long ago. And so I went
Speaker 3: over to his place once it was home for the holidays,
Speaker 3: and he had like nine thousand playboys on his fireplace,
Speaker 3: just stacks and stacks and stacks and playboys. And uh.
Speaker 3: I was like waiting for him to get ready or something,
Speaker 3: and you were about to go about to go to
Speaker 3: the bar or something. So I'm sitting down there and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, all right, let's look at these old
Speaker 3: ass playboys or whatever. And I started flipping through them.
Speaker 3: One but I think that's the first one I opened
Speaker 3: up the most, like you open it up and it
Speaker 3: all peels and rips and stickies, and I was like, ah,
Speaker 3: my dad's like I made a noise. My Dad's like,
Speaker 3: what happened. I was like, there's a bunch of dead
Speaker 3: guy coming this. He was from the state sale. He
Speaker 3: was recently the seamed man's seamen in this thing. God,
Speaker 3: and then he had a crisis of like why can't
Speaker 3: I can't sell these? Now I can't sell these? The
Speaker 3: dead guy come all over him.
Speaker 2: He didn't think people don't know that it's dead guy Come.
Speaker 2: It could be anybody.
Speaker 3: It's still come.
Speaker 2: Some people would configure your dad's come.
Speaker 3: That's also gross.
Speaker 2: Yees saying well, where are these movings?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Tell me where I think you did?
Speaker 2: How much?
Speaker 3: How much I think I remember him telling you about
Speaker 3: carrying a bunch of like dead guy come playboys to
Speaker 3: like his neighborhood dumpster, just like a big trash bag.
Speaker 1: What dumpster? Which dumps?
Speaker 4: The new version of dog eared books, it's just called
Speaker 4: the sticky pages.
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Speaker 4: talked about so many games. I actually I listened to
Speaker 4: the last podcast because I didn't want to, like literally
Speaker 4: talk about the same games two weeks in a row.
Speaker 4: And I was amazed with how many games you guys covered.
Speaker 4: I want to say it was over a dozen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I was writing a money down for this week,
Speaker 3: and I can't remember which one I talked. Did I
Speaker 3: talk about UFO fifty last week?
Speaker 2: You did? You did?
Speaker 4: And so you guys were talking about Uh. I can
Speaker 4: talk about this because I, yeah, I listened to it
Speaker 4: and you were discussing it. But you also said, there's
Speaker 4: like a part in UFO fifty where you get to
Speaker 4: a point and like everything changes, and then it was
Speaker 4: very important that you like didn't give away any of
Speaker 4: the secrets because a part of the value of UFO
Speaker 4: fifty is that like something weird happens or I don't
Speaker 4: really know.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, there seems like there's a meta layer
Speaker 1: of a story. Yeah, it's hinting at but you haven't
Speaker 1: figured it out yet.
Speaker 3: Oh and yeah, there's the terminal thing, but I still
Speaker 3: have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to know, but I am curious.
Speaker 4: Like updated if like more games are of genuine value
Speaker 4: or if they still have a lot of that superficial
Speaker 4: nostalgic value which is still cool but not really a
Speaker 4: selling point for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bring up. We can talk about it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm literally asking you right now.
Speaker 3: We're back on the podcast. Put on the podcast. Like seconds,
Speaker 3: I thought we were just shooting the ship.
Speaker 2: All right, we are just shooting the ship.
Speaker 3: That's what this game, and usually Mike brings it back.
Speaker 3: I was thrown off.
Speaker 1: Nice goodness, it was good of her to host and
Speaker 1: kind of thank you slip in there when I didn't
Speaker 1: ask her to.
Speaker 2: But now it's fine, right, keep it up. You better,
Speaker 2: you better keep on your good stuff.
Speaker 1: So damn you're safty, you said another.
Speaker 3: I've been talking a lot about this metal Layer. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I have no idea what touck the metal layers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there are numerous games that have value just as their
Speaker 3: own thing that like is not based on like, oh,
Speaker 3: this reminds me of you know, metro Eater, or this
Speaker 3: reminds me of this thing or whatever. What's the one?
Speaker 3: I sorted this pilot Quest, which it's so cool to
Speaker 3: take like concepts that you see in games today and
Speaker 3: apply them to games that seem like they were made
Speaker 3: in the eighties. So like there's like clicker and idle
Speaker 3: mechanics in this pilot Quest game, and you're basically going
Speaker 3: on runs to get sources and stuff, and you were
Speaker 3: buying these things back at like your home base that
Speaker 3: it's like idly will make you currency and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: which that wasn't really a thing you saw a lot
Speaker 3: back then. So it's so interesting to see modern mechanics
Speaker 3: in a very legitimately old feeling game. And yeah, like
Speaker 3: that Mortal game, I camera if I talked about that
Speaker 3: last time. But really cool concepts that are unlike anything
Speaker 3: that you know. There are the ones that remind me
Speaker 3: of like, oh, I remember this is like when I
Speaker 3: rented this Nis game at Blockbuster or whatever. But then
Speaker 3: there's a lot where it's like this is cool because
Speaker 3: it's like I'm getting a glimpse into an alternate history
Speaker 3: where games like this were made back then when they
Speaker 3: really weren't. I still have a ton to play. I
Speaker 3: mean I think I've only played like fifteen to twenty
Speaker 3: of them, but a lot of them, Like some of them,
Speaker 3: I will play like once or twice and be like,
Speaker 3: all right, I get what this one's doing. I don't
Speaker 3: need to keep playing this one. And then some of
Speaker 3: them I will stay on for a while and be like,
Speaker 3: oh I really like what this is doing. I want
Speaker 3: to see how far I can get.
Speaker 1: So it's your favorite one so far.
Speaker 3: Mortal is really cool. The Pilot Quest is really cool.
Speaker 3: Paint Chases fun. Yeah, like a bunch of our two players, Well,
Speaker 3: paint chase, You're like a car and it's like a
Speaker 3: pac Man grid And imagine like again like modern like
Speaker 3: it makes me think of Splittoon the way you have
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time, and your car basically has
Speaker 3: like a paint roller behind it or whatever. So like
Speaker 3: as you race around this pac Man maze, you are
Speaker 3: painting the track like blue. And at the end, so
Speaker 3: at the level started, it'll be like you have to
Speaker 3: get fifty percent of the level cleared here. So you're
Speaker 3: painting over this, but your enemy car is going around
Speaker 3: or cars are going around painting and pink, and so
Speaker 3: you're trying to like take out the other cars and
Speaker 3: paint over their stuff, and they're trying to paint over yours.
Speaker 3: And it's really clever idea. And again it seems like
Speaker 3: it looks like a game that would have come out
Speaker 3: back then, but I can't think of one that was
Speaker 3: quite like that. So there's a lot of examples of
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So yeah, really really cool. It's an
Speaker 3: ideal Steam deck game that the flights to and from Japan.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It was awesome having that on the same deck. Played
Speaker 3: a ton of it and then we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 3: I had Zelda on the way back. It unlocked like
Speaker 3: an hour. I was at the airport when Zelda unlocked,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, oh my god, a new
Speaker 3: fucking Zelda game and I'm about to be on a
Speaker 3: plane for eleven hours. That kicks ass.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. Now, what's the new Zelda?
Speaker 3: Like, let's do it? Well, are we doing the podcast now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're on oh ship, we're on the air. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you want to start? Sure?
Speaker 3: Well you're here though, so you bring us in from
Speaker 3: break eh.
Speaker 1: Legend of Zeldo Wisdom.
Speaker 3: This isn't a shoot.
Speaker 1: Legend levels of Zeldo. Uh, ed Joes of Wisdom is out.
Speaker 1: I'm on, I've done three dungeons.
Speaker 3: Uh so were you passed hyrol Castle?
Speaker 1: No? I did Grudo and I did the I don't
Speaker 1: want to spoil the name of the dungeon from the
Speaker 1: water area at the beginning.
Speaker 2: I'm still pretty do them out of order.
Speaker 1: You can do the first you can do that well,
Speaker 1: I mean the first. The first part is also kind
Speaker 1: of technically an intro dungeon.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, okay, so I know where you're at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: married to answer your question, and it's it'll show you
Speaker 3: like these two dungeons and it's like you can go
Speaker 3: to either one of these, so you can do those
Speaker 3: in whatever order. And then there is a part where
Speaker 3: Mike is about to get to where it opens up
Speaker 3: quite a bit more same.
Speaker 1: Yea, so it's like link between worlds, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's where I really started liking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really enjoying it, I guess for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like, first off, it's a full fledged
Speaker 1: Zelda game. I know it was getting shit early, which
Speaker 1: I don't even want to, you know, breathe oxygen on that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I'm hearing some people are taking
Speaker 1: like twenty five hours doing all the side content, of
Speaker 1: which there's a lot. The main conceit is you're playing
Speaker 1: at Zelda and you basically are collecting echoes, which are
Speaker 1: just basically items, enemies, allies you can summon at will
Speaker 1: based on your energy level from try your companion like
Speaker 1: your fairy companion. There are actually several layers to the abilities,
Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that, but yeah, generally speaking, it's you're rarely engaging
Speaker 1: in like hand to hand combat, although you are.
Speaker 3: Because there is a burst of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You basically can raise the Hero's sword and become
Speaker 1: like a phantom link for a little bit during Boss fights,
Speaker 1: or just if you have an enemy that your allies
Speaker 1: or your echoes are not doing too much damage against,
Speaker 1: but really clever dungeon design. I there are a decent
Speaker 1: number of frustrations. I'm playing on a launch switch. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much that matters, but the frame rate
Speaker 1: is not great.
Speaker 3: It's very inconsistent. It is, and it does in a
Speaker 3: weird way where it's like remember the Links Awakening remake,
Speaker 3: it would just be like, Okay, if I'm outside there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of grass or whatever, it'll slow down here.
Speaker 3: It's like it will just kind of like shift for
Speaker 3: like a second and then go back. And it's not
Speaker 3: as dependent on you know, because you can spawn a
Speaker 3: lot of enemies and stuff like that, so there can
Speaker 3: be a lot of stuff happening on screen. So the
Speaker 3: the times that it shipped, frame rates and stuff is
Speaker 3: more frequent. I feel like I notice it less when
Speaker 3: it's docked when I'm playing on the on the TV.
Speaker 3: When I'm playing handheld, I notice it more. But I
Speaker 3: have it on an old so I don't know if
Speaker 3: the launch is worse in that regard, but it is noticeable.
Speaker 3: It's not like ruining my enjoyment of it or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but it is definitely a noticeable thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then there's also like a third layer where try.
Speaker 1: I keep wanting to say tree, but I think it's try.
Speaker 3: Because it's a triforce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, triforce, but it's fee in skywrid sword, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. You can also bind with objects and
Speaker 1: it's got a similar green glow to like zone I abilities,
Speaker 1: and then those basically whatever distance you're at, you can
Speaker 1: move and then it'll pull like giant boulders at the
Speaker 1: same distance. You can do a bunch with that. You
Speaker 1: can do it with like statues and one not too.
Speaker 3: Or you can hold R while you're binded to something
Speaker 3: and then link or Zelda will follow that thing. So
Speaker 3: for instance, yeah, so Greub told me about this and
Speaker 3: I tried it today and it's awesome. So you can
Speaker 3: break this game in weird way? Is that like typically
Speaker 3: you can't do and Zelda games. So like, there are
Speaker 3: areas of the map that like, okay, it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be not necessarily a place you get to until you
Speaker 3: get this item or whatever, but you can break it
Speaker 3: in ways where it's like, let's say, at this point,
Speaker 3: I can summon like a grilled fish. And so let's
Speaker 3: say I summon a bird and I bind myself to
Speaker 3: the bird, and then I summon fish grilled fish, and
Speaker 3: I hold it on my head like above my head,
Speaker 3: and I hold an r to bind myself to that bird.
Speaker 3: The bird will constantly be flying towards the fish, but
Speaker 3: since I'm holding it, it stays at the same thing.
Speaker 3: So you just start flying with the bird. You can
Speaker 3: fly across the entire map with a bird by just
Speaker 3: holding a fish. It's like weird shit like that. That
Speaker 3: is like, oh, this is kind of awesome, like it.
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, that seems intentional, like they saw this coming.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like they shied away from it or
Speaker 3: like I don't think it was necessarily like it's not
Speaker 3: oh here's the part where you do that, but it
Speaker 3: definitely seems like it encourages you to to experiment because
Speaker 3: nothing ever breaks. Really, it's just like it it works.
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, I got to this area and
Speaker 3: everything's broken. I can't get into this dungeon or anything.
Speaker 3: It's just like, oh shit, I'm over here now. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I was supposed to be here yet,
Speaker 3: but that fucking bird took me here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are generally numerous solutions to any puzzle, even
Speaker 1: like the ways you fight different bosses there. I saw
Speaker 1: several viable options. It feels it's kind of cool how
Speaker 1: it is kind of carrying forward the tiers of the
Speaker 1: Kingdom willingness to let players break the game, even though
Speaker 1: it is more like links awakening, remake, link between worlds,
Speaker 1: kind of top down view and world structure. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying that, and also just finding solutions or
Speaker 1: just platforming things that you get in certain habits and
Speaker 1: summoning like okay, box table box or box, shrubbery table, trampoline, whatever,
Speaker 1: And later on I'm like, oh my god, I could
Speaker 1: have just been doing this the whole time. This was
Speaker 1: way easier. That happens a lot in this game.
Speaker 3: Or you get something that just renders it completely obsolete,
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, I got this water cube. Now
Speaker 3: I've never making a single leather trampoline, you know. The
Speaker 3: water king Street actually added a couple added a couple
Speaker 3: categories for Game of the Year where best echoes, so
Speaker 3: if if you guys are playing through it, to think
Speaker 3: of your favorite echoes and also under coolest dude, that
Speaker 3: category we've done before. First nominee, I put stamp guy guy.
Speaker 1: Amanda's but yes, I might him in the seaside village.
Speaker 1: Amanda's just watching me and she's like, this guy sucks.
Speaker 1: Go find him somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, no, he is so horny for stamps. It
Speaker 3: is incredible. Yeah, I'm just gonna pluck it right down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's the fucking amped. I will say that.
Speaker 1: For as often as they find echoes, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Like, I remember I just found the cormadillo.
Speaker 1: It's an armadillo you just spawned. He rolls forward and
Speaker 1: it's like a projectile. There are a lot that I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? How is this useful? Like
Speaker 1: it's entirely possible that I'm just not using them in
Speaker 1: the right situation. But I remember I got like the
Speaker 1: dragon the wasp, and yeah, the description says it finds
Speaker 1: the right that it has it skilled at finding the
Speaker 1: perfect time to strike, and I summon them and the
Speaker 1: wind up for their stingers. Yes, so long they never
Speaker 1: land a hit.
Speaker 3: And then a lot of them are like that, the
Speaker 3: spear of goblins, the birds, A lot of them have
Speaker 3: that just like animation of like okay, I'm locked in
Speaker 3: and then the enemy moves and like fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: And just as also, the path finding for your minions
Speaker 1: kind of sucks sometimes when they get caught on walls.
Speaker 1: It's it's it gets frustrating sometimes. And also I can
Speaker 1: get caught on corners and whatnot when like a minion
Speaker 1: is forcing me into it, but that's rare.
Speaker 3: There's an amount of directing you can do where it's
Speaker 3: like if you lock on to an enemy or an
Speaker 3: object or something that tells all of your echoes to
Speaker 3: go towards it, so you can basically like direct them.
Speaker 3: It's very light and honestly, like it's not a perfect system,
Speaker 3: but because of how interesting it is and how it
Speaker 3: really does change the game, I'm willing to put up with. Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this stuff doesn't always work perfectly, but the amount of
Speaker 3: freedom of grants you is worth the trade off. I
Speaker 3: think it's almost like a scribble noots type thing. I'm
Speaker 3: just like, oh, what's a fun weird way I wonder
Speaker 3: if I can beat this using this thing or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, you feel like you're the one finding the
Speaker 3: solutions versus like, oh, this is the wall that I
Speaker 3: have to use this bomb for or press the switch
Speaker 3: or something. You know, it's but you're right, it is
Speaker 3: a It's a full on Zelda game. It is. I
Speaker 3: didn't know what to expect when they announced it, because
Speaker 3: you know, they've been Triforce heroes, they've been Four Swords adventures,
Speaker 3: you know, things with the Zelda name that were not
Speaker 3: full fledged Zelda games. This is one hundred percent and Mike,
Speaker 3: you're not even at Like there is a part where
Speaker 3: you go to Hydro Castle, and then after that it
Speaker 3: does feel like I've been exploring the entire map and
Speaker 3: there's way more side quest, way more things going on,
Speaker 3: and that I was liking it before. I think it
Speaker 3: was like probably sitting around at eight for me until
Speaker 3: like after hiro Castle, and then it's like, oh, this
Speaker 3: really opened up an out of a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I think I'm probably around like a nine now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you finish it on the flight?
Speaker 3: No? No, I I played maybe three or four hours
Speaker 3: on the flight and then try to sleep at times.
Speaker 3: You know, quick aside, Have you guys seen No Hard
Speaker 3: Feelings the Jennifer Lawrence movie. Yes, it's really funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's really funny. Did you watch it on
Speaker 4: a plane. Yeah, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: You missed the start.
Speaker 3: I was watching in my X real like ar glasses,
Speaker 3: so no one else can see it but me. Are
Speaker 3: you talking about the boob part?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just the boob part.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the only like thing that if
Speaker 3: somebody looked at your screen would be well, I guess,
Speaker 3: I guess there's some stuff.
Speaker 2: There, but there's just double check we're talking about the same.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 2: But you saw it. You saw it through the plane.
Speaker 3: Like No. I saw it through my glasses.
Speaker 2: Sure, but like.
Speaker 3: I see all movies through my glasses.
Speaker 2: But the plane version, No.
Speaker 3: I downloaded it to uh the X reel, Like it's
Speaker 3: like this this beam pro thing that you can download
Speaker 3: movies too. So I logged into my Netflix account and
Speaker 3: dowloaded a bunch of movies.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it was your Netflix. Okay, it's not boobs, it's
Speaker 4: full frontal.
Speaker 3: Oh you know the version I downloaded. I was wondering
Speaker 3: there was pixelated vagina going on.
Speaker 2: There, you fool? That is Oh that is full frontal,
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was wondering if it's like, oh, weird, I've
Speaker 3: never seen blurring in a movie before, so I guess
Speaker 3: that's the Netflix person has the blurring.
Speaker 2: Then, I mean, not the one I saw.
Speaker 3: Well, I downloaded it in Japan. I wonder if that's why.
Speaker 2: I wonder too, because weird.
Speaker 4: Not only is there like complete full frontal Jennifer Lawrence,
Speaker 4: which is insane of her to do for a film.
Speaker 4: She'smoking hot, but also she does like a suplex yeah,
Speaker 4: completely nude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, and they show everything.
Speaker 4: I was blown away the entire like part of No
Speaker 4: Hard Feelings. And obviously it is a cheeky film. It's good,
Speaker 4: like people should it's a stupid rom com like it's
Speaker 4: it's enjoyable, like I recommend it. But dear ward, there's
Speaker 4: this scene where people steal her clothes.
Speaker 2: She's going swimming in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and these.
Speaker 4: Boys steal her clothes and she comes out of the
Speaker 4: ocean and this is in the distance in the background,
Speaker 4: and so she's very clearly completely naked walking from the
Speaker 4: ocean towards the camera. And this is the part where
Speaker 4: anyone watching the film would go, that's really funny. They're
Speaker 4: obviously going to cut away at some point. Oh, and
Speaker 4: they just don't. And she just slowly with nothing on,
Speaker 4: walks completely into the scene and starts kicking them in
Speaker 4: the balls and then suit flexing them, and you see everything,
Speaker 4: and they do not blur it or cut away. It
Speaker 4: is not a cut of her boobies. It is a
Speaker 4: cut of the entire body.
Speaker 2: It's nuts.
Speaker 4: I cannot believe they got away with it in Our
Speaker 4: Lord twenty twenty four. It is just it is just incredible.
Speaker 4: They like Jesus, she looks great, it's great.
Speaker 3: That is so interesting that like the blur if you
Speaker 3: saw it on Netflix and it wasn't blurred and I did,
Speaker 3: like I say.
Speaker 4: No, I remember saying for Lawrence VI Jay, that is
Speaker 4: not that was not boobs scene. The fact that you
Speaker 4: would say like, oh yeah, I saw the boobs, It's like,
Speaker 4: you stupid bitch, that is not what we're discussing.
Speaker 3: Well, I've only seen I saw that first, like Hunger
Speaker 3: Games movie forever ago. I think that's the only time
Speaker 3: I've seen Jennifer Lawrence anything. She's fucking hilarious in that movie.
Speaker 3: Like I was like laughing, I'm stifling laughing out loud
Speaker 3: on a plane several times during that movie. I was so.
Speaker 2: Impressive a good actress.
Speaker 4: She's a good actress, and she's very good in that film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a I mean for rom com.
Speaker 4: I always like to give it that preface because rom
Speaker 4: coms have like a lower tier for me, where it's
Speaker 4: just like it's stupid, it's unrealistic, it's ridiculous, and like
Speaker 4: makes leaps of faith, but it's enjoyable and you will
Speaker 4: laugh a lot during the film, Like I enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminded me of like I guess I didn't
Speaker 3: really think about it being a rom com. I guess
Speaker 3: it is. I was. It felt like like a super Bad,
Speaker 3: like that vibe of like R rated comedy.
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I think like a lot of times I relegate those
Speaker 4: to like Failure to Launch or like how to Lose
Speaker 4: a Guy in ten Days. They are fun, but they're
Speaker 4: also like about feelings and about boys being like why
Speaker 4: can't I get girl? And that just isn't at the
Speaker 4: level of super Bad, which is also in many ways
Speaker 4: a rom com just about two dudes.
Speaker 3: God, I haven't seen I wonder how that's aged I
Speaker 3: remember thinking it was there was a point where Apatow
Speaker 3: was like between that and forty year old Virgin, Like
Speaker 3: Appataw was just killing with stuff, and I remember funny people.
Speaker 3: I downloaded that too. I haven't watched yet because I
Speaker 3: haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: I would say Superbad is about two high schoolers who
Speaker 1: want it to be a rom com, but it's a
Speaker 1: comedy and it's just like shitting on them the whole time.
Speaker 1: Last I checked, it has held up. There's definitely some
Speaker 1: like homophobic stuff, but yeah, it's not like pervasive throughout
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 4: Sure it's not for women, but I think BookSmart is
Speaker 4: like really holds up and it's a very good version
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: That was like I think I was during the movie
Speaker 3: past Ero, wasn't it. I think I remember saying that
Speaker 3: in New York. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then while I'm mad at because we're talking about this,
Speaker 4: I have to look it up. There's a brand new
Speaker 4: coming of age film.
Speaker 3: Hillbilly Elgy. You keep talking about that offline.
Speaker 2: God damn it. I would never talk about that.
Speaker 3: Chat kept talking about how much you like that.
Speaker 2: Listen, God, I will read it like Nixon.
Speaker 4: Let's just just go back to Nixon.
Speaker 3: Honestly, we prefer it.
Speaker 2: I listened to the last podcast, you motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: I heard I have a Nixon pop cap doll?
Speaker 2: What are those called?
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. Who said that you did? I did? Awesome?
Speaker 2: Mary probably has a Nixon Funko pop.
Speaker 4: Let's google if they have a Nixon funk o and
Speaker 4: they do and and he's like this, they do lies
Speaker 4: and he's doing his little peace signs.
Speaker 3: They have a Nixon pop.
Speaker 2: I think they the Freies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, gotta be a JFK. Gotta be an fdr.
Speaker 3: Wow, gotta be a Teddy McKinley.
Speaker 1: Probably a James K. Polk Church Church or Van Buren,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, Van b boys.
Speaker 2: Damn it?
Speaker 1: Hold you get rom coms? Sorry go, Mary, No, you go.
Speaker 4: The whole reason I brought that up was because I
Speaker 4: wanted to tell you guys about a coming of age
Speaker 4: film that I saw on Netflix that I like. But
Speaker 4: I'm struggling to find the.
Speaker 2: Stop getting.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's the Art of the Deal.
Speaker 3: No, is this the next evolution of the Merry Pit?
Speaker 3: No it's not.
Speaker 1: Oh, isn't that show you've been telling us to watch?
Speaker 1: The Apprentice? Oh?
Speaker 3: Ray where you get fired? If you do bad. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what's that like steak company? There's that steak company and
Speaker 3: that college you went to. Yeah, oh those nft those
Speaker 3: coins you got recently were really cool, right. What's that
Speaker 3: golf club in Florida you love?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, your new your new car is like
Speaker 1: a weirdles angular.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, I'm so glad. I've seen your
Speaker 3: house and that gold toilet's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: You guys gonna talk about how I love that pillow company,
Speaker 4: my pillow Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah those pillows. Yeah, you can't stop talking about them.
Speaker 4: Can stop talking about them? Okay, I found it. I
Speaker 4: found it while you guys were rambling about my garbage.
Speaker 1: Actually laser focused jokes.
Speaker 3: Not.
Speaker 2: Coherent Google a. I could write better jokes than you.
Speaker 3: Spun files dot com.
Speaker 2: It's called Incoming.
Speaker 4: It is a coming of age teen fun thing. It's
Speaker 4: similar to BookSmart, Roger, shut up.
Speaker 1: It's a coming of age can you can you polygon?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: It's book Smart or like uh can't hardly wait, which
Speaker 4: was more early two thousands. But it's a bunch of
Speaker 4: highs school year kids figuring it out and having a
Speaker 4: big party night. And yes, it looks like it's called incoming.
Speaker 2: I was surprised. I do encourage you.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 2: I will set the bar here.
Speaker 4: It is obviously not super bad, because it would be
Speaker 4: very difficult to hit the level of super bad. But
Speaker 4: I was pleasantly surprised that with a bunch of teenage
Speaker 4: actors that I liked it. I laughed multiple times out loud,
Speaker 4: and they weren't super offensive. And the ending is like
Speaker 4: a good it's a good it's a good story that
Speaker 4: has it pays off.
Speaker 3: Yes, that sounds like a good. Uh Like, I find
Speaker 3: like there's a certain type of plane movie that I like.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I watched planes, trains and Automo Wheels for
Speaker 3: the first time on the way out there, and the
Speaker 3: no hard feelings in the way. I still like comedies
Speaker 3: where it's like you don't really need surround sound and
Speaker 3: giant TV and all that stuff, you know, just lighthearted,
Speaker 3: plain stuff like I like that a lot. I know
Speaker 3: we're doing a movie detour here, but I have mention Friday,
Speaker 3: I am seeing Megalopolis and I could not be more excited.
Speaker 3: Have you creating about this movie.
Speaker 2: I've only heard that it's garbage.
Speaker 3: Or like going to be insane, I think I don't
Speaker 3: think it's gonna make any fucking sense. Let me read.
Speaker 3: Mike Drucker did some tweets about it. He saught. He said,
Speaker 3: Megalopolis feels like cutscenes you'd see if Hideo Kajima made
Speaker 3: Sim City. And he said, if I told you Hadeo
Speaker 3: Kajima made a city building game where Aubrey Plaza plays
Speaker 3: a financial media celebrity named Wow Platinum, you'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that sounds great. Well, I've got good news for you.
Speaker 3: So I've seen the trailer. I heard that there's a
Speaker 3: part where Adam Driver breaks the fourth wall and talks
Speaker 3: to someone in the theater that asks a question like weird.
Speaker 3: It just sounds and it's a completely empty theater. It
Speaker 3: came out like last week. I bought tickets to day.
Speaker 3: Me and Bonker are the only people in the theater.
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking excited for this weird train wreck.
Speaker 2: Maybe that it's such a train wreck, it might be
Speaker 2: like one of those cult trains, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of how I feel about like
Speaker 3: a net where a net. But again, Adam Driver, I
Speaker 3: Bank and I hated it so much when we first
Speaker 3: watched it, but I've now seen it like five times.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I think, I legitimately, unironically think this
Speaker 3: movie kicks ass, and it's just so fucking weird and bold,
Speaker 3: like I'm kind of hoping, like I just I will
Speaker 3: take a movie that I will remember forever over a
Speaker 3: seven out of ten, you know what I mean, even
Speaker 3: if Megalopolis is a two out of ten.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it worked for water World, was all right.
Speaker 3: I watched it a few months ago for together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when it came out, guess what everybody said,
Speaker 4: this is a fucking train wreck.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, And now we all talk about water World.
Speaker 4: So maybe Megalopolis, megal megalol Megalopolis, you say, Megalopolis.
Speaker 1: There you go, you got it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and I love too that Like it's actually
Speaker 3: a really interesting advertising campaign they did where they show
Speaker 3: like the reviews of The Godfather, the reviews of Apoca
Speaker 3: now and it's just like bad review of people being
Speaker 3: like the critics being like this sucks, this is garbage,
Speaker 3: this is and like now it's basically the campaign being like,
Speaker 3: oh you know, yeah, critics said this was shit too,
Speaker 3: and now people love it. But the thing is they
Speaker 3: made up all the quotes. So it's like, well, you
Speaker 3: kind of lose some of the impact when you made
Speaker 3: up and they pulled the trailer.
Speaker 2: I heard about that. Didn't they use AI to make
Speaker 2: up those?
Speaker 4: Did they?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I think they got a lot of shit for
Speaker 2: that too, because they used real names. The reviewed names
Speaker 2: are real, but the wow fake.
Speaker 4: And so then the reviewers, or at least the companies
Speaker 4: that were beholden to those review names, were like, that's
Speaker 4: bullshit that you would do that.
Speaker 3: That's really weird. Okay.
Speaker 2: They were like saying, like varieties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the name of the reviewer. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: it's a fake.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get found out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got I heard about that too. That
Speaker 4: was a huge controversy and it used AI, so not popular. Interesting,
Speaker 4: I've heard. I've heard that this is like a mess.
Speaker 2: Of a film.
Speaker 3: We're going to be high the trailer? Yes, what a.
Speaker 4: Wonderful Oh let's you guys made fun of me for
Speaker 4: like having a really shit review. But I love the
Speaker 4: idea of Dan Reiker watching a movie and being like,
Speaker 4: just so you guys know, I was extremely high.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, let's get into it. Certain movies you want
Speaker 3: to be high for and everything I'm going to make
Speaker 3: Apola is like, yeah, we're gonna have some medicals and
Speaker 3: cocktails before we go into this one.
Speaker 2: What a mess.
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is grapple that's our review on Zelda?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zelda, Yeah, I'm going back.
Speaker 3: I have liked it. I've had reservations. I have had
Speaker 3: things that kind of annoyed me as i've played, but
Speaker 3: I'm finding myself liking it more.
Speaker 2: Trying to summarize it. It's over. You think Zelda's fine.
Speaker 2: I think golf is very good.
Speaker 3: Nine nine for me right now. Yeah that's a great score.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1: Even superb score? Is that? What do we have the while?
Speaker 3: Do we have the breakdown of like what the fuse?
Speaker 3: Several poops like two through four, like different shades of poop?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, what is Grapple Dogs?
Speaker 4: So Grapple Dogs is the sequel to Grapple Dog. Grapple
Speaker 4: Dog came out several years ago, and I actually really
Speaker 4: liked it. I was surprised that Grappled Dog a very simple,
Speaker 4: uh visual two D platform or game where obviously you
Speaker 4: have a grapple hook and you're a dog and you
Speaker 4: just travel around and it takes you through a bunch
Speaker 4: of platforming challenges.
Speaker 2: It captured my attention. Grapple Dogs.
Speaker 4: The sequel is Cosmic Canines, so it's the full title
Speaker 4: is Grappled Dogs. Cosmic Canines adds a secondary dog. Now
Speaker 4: there is a girl dog. She's sassy, she doesn't mess around.
Speaker 4: She's a bit like emo looking. She wears like dark
Speaker 4: goth clothing.
Speaker 3: And two players.
Speaker 2: No, it's single.
Speaker 4: But what's neat about it is is the first dog
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a dash. This girl adds a gun
Speaker 4: and a dash. And they were like, you know what,
Speaker 4: Grapple Dogs needs a.
Speaker 2: Gun and a dash.
Speaker 4: And so now you have twice the dog, double the dog,
Speaker 4: and you can change dogs. It completely has to change
Speaker 4: the way you play the game.
Speaker 3: So on the fly, can you do it like during
Speaker 3: a level?
Speaker 2: No, certain levels are for certain dogs.
Speaker 1: So who's there.
Speaker 4: That is like an old wise Ostrich that tells you
Speaker 4: secrets about lore, about the world.
Speaker 3: Who's the bunny?
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody cares about them, but they're.
Speaker 3: Like a cover. It's on the cover. She's got her control.
Speaker 1: She's like a.
Speaker 4: Person that you're helping. You're saving their world. Okay, I
Speaker 4: find them of no consequence.
Speaker 3: So the narrative not exactly the start here.
Speaker 2: Oh god no.
Speaker 4: In fact, I would say that one of the weaker
Speaker 4: parts of this game. I'll get to what I like
Speaker 4: about it, but the thing I do not like about
Speaker 4: this game is how often there will be someone in
Speaker 4: the level that has an exclamation mark and you can
Speaker 4: talk to them, and how.
Speaker 2: Never is it valuable or anything you ever need to do.
Speaker 4: At this point, and I'm well past three quarters of
Speaker 4: the game, I just do not talk to people, and
Speaker 4: if there is ever dialogue, I skip past it. It
Speaker 4: is worthless to me. This story is of no interest,
Speaker 4: but that's fine. This game is about grapple dogs. You
Speaker 4: are grapple hooking lots of different areas and spaces to
Speaker 4: get through the levels. When you're the girl dog, you
Speaker 4: shoot and dash your way through it, and when you're
Speaker 4: the boy dog, you have this like punch move so
Speaker 4: you can like punch through blocks and like enemies and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and you have a bounce move so
Speaker 4: that you can ounce up and down. There's really nothing
Speaker 4: else to say about that, But the point is is
Speaker 4: the levels have a nice amount of variety to them.
Speaker 4: There's certain levels that are speed challenges, which I think
Speaker 4: Dan you would like. When I play this game, the
Speaker 4: thing that I get most excited about is the speed challenges,
Speaker 4: and they'll be like, you have to get all the
Speaker 4: apples in this space in less than two minutes, and
Speaker 4: so you're running around, you're grappling, you're wall dashing, you're
Speaker 4: jumping back and forth trying to get as many apples
Speaker 4: in under two minutes. And to get all the bonuses,
Speaker 4: you do have to be thinking about making sure like
Speaker 4: how you can get each item and under the two
Speaker 4: minute warning challenge.
Speaker 2: That's fun. The regular levels, there's three hidden bonus I
Speaker 2: don't know what they are.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter, but like I just see Gizmo's
Speaker 1: Tael on screen that I hear like he's punching something he.
Speaker 3: Knows, just like digging into the recliner for some reason.
Speaker 4: Okay, anyone who knows about grapple dogs, well, no, it's
Speaker 4: very dog focused. There's three hidden items in each level,
Speaker 4: plus a treasure box. You actually do have to pay
Speaker 4: attention to find these hidden items plus the treasure box.
Speaker 4: They're usually behind hidden walls or between behind like a
Speaker 4: really difficult to get platforming section. So while anyone can
Speaker 4: beat these levels. This game is not difficult to get
Speaker 4: all the items and the treasure box. You do have
Speaker 4: to be paying attention and be moderately skilled at a platforming.
Speaker 4: I think for the platform enthusiast Dan, I do think
Speaker 4: of you. I think it's an interesting game that carries
Speaker 4: on the momentum from the original Grapple Dog, and I
Speaker 4: do think it's worth playing.
Speaker 3: I've always appreciated games, and like Mario has always been
Speaker 3: good at this where it's like, okay, if you just
Speaker 3: want to beat the game, if you want to beat
Speaker 3: Mario sixty four, you can do it with I don't
Speaker 3: know what the minimum amount of stars is, but like
Speaker 3: you don't if you get to a hard level or whatever,
Speaker 3: you don't have to do it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like but for people that want to go crazy
Speaker 3: with it, like like with Odyssey, I got every single
Speaker 3: moon in that game. I played the shit out of it.
Speaker 3: But if I didn't want to do the super secret
Speaker 3: bonus thing at the end, and just if I wanted
Speaker 3: to see credits, that's easy enough to do. But then
Speaker 3: if you are someone like me that wants to like
Speaker 3: super be challenged, it's got that option too. I think
Speaker 3: that's really cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got the levels for the different type of
Speaker 4: gamer or player that it might be. I think that
Speaker 4: kids could play through this game and fumble their way
Speaker 4: through it, but if you want to actually get everything,
Speaker 4: you have to start thinking and paying attention and get
Speaker 4: it done. It also adds a lot of additional types
Speaker 4: of gun or material. There's a gun that essentially turns
Speaker 4: certain areas into grass, and you can only climb if
Speaker 4: it's grass, so.
Speaker 2: They'll be all this dirt.
Speaker 4: So you're shooting it, turning into grass, grabbing it, and
Speaker 4: you're doing that back and forth. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: it's fun and it mixes it up enough. There's another
Speaker 4: electrical gun that turns you into essentially like a ball
Speaker 4: of energy that pingpongs around the level. Very later in
Speaker 4: the game, I got a new gun that just straight
Speaker 4: up turns me into a ball of fire, and I
Speaker 4: can fly now like I can just fly around the.
Speaker 2: Entire level, So you get quite powerful towards the end.
Speaker 4: It's not a difficult game, generally speaking, but I find
Speaker 4: it enjoyable enough. It's kept my attention. I will beat
Speaker 4: it over time once I get a little bit more
Speaker 4: time with it. But yeah, Grapple Dogs. Cosmic Canines has
Speaker 4: surprised me and it might surprise you too. It's just
Speaker 4: hard to compete with all the top tier contenders right now, but.
Speaker 2: It's a good game.
Speaker 3: I made a note though, because like this does sound
Speaker 3: interesting to me, and like it seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: we were talking about playing movies before. Like you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes when you're on a plane, you just want to
Speaker 3: zone out, and don't you're not playing a game like
Speaker 3: a Zelda that you're like super invested in. You just
Speaker 3: want to do like a fun kind of little challenge
Speaker 3: game like this. And I'll get this on my steam
Speaker 3: deck and I will probably give this a shot.
Speaker 2: It's a total Steam deck plane game.
Speaker 4: Or like sitting on my couch while I'm also watching
Speaker 4: Netflix Jennifer Lawrence full Frontal, I would probably play Cosmic
Speaker 4: Canines while I'm watching that cool Dan.
Speaker 1: I know Jake talked about Dead Rising a few episodes ago,
Speaker 1: but looks you've been playing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not up ton to add other than the fact that,
Speaker 3: like I beat it, and I was just very much
Speaker 3: reminded of, like it's interesting now that we're far enough
Speaker 3: away from that three sixty era, especially early three sixty
Speaker 3: like Dead Rising, where I it's like, oh man, that
Speaker 3: seems pretty recent to me. I don't consider it retro,
Speaker 3: but it's been long enough now to where it's like,
Speaker 3: oh right, Dead Rising, Okay, I forgot how much I
Speaker 3: really like this game's whole vibe and sense of humor
Speaker 3: and everything. It's super unique too. Like I, I was
Speaker 3: talking to Nati, he's him and I both hated like
Speaker 3: zombie stuff because it was just so overdone, you know,
Speaker 3: forever ago, and this was the one that kind of
Speaker 3: broke through for both of us where it's like, oh wait, no,
Speaker 3: this game is just so much fucking fun and just
Speaker 3: that idea of the seventy two hours that you kind
Speaker 3: of loop and see how many people you can save
Speaker 3: and you can kind of that new game plus was
Speaker 3: very much baked into you're supposed to play it several times.
Speaker 2: It's silly and funny.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's that's the thing. It's like, I don't
Speaker 3: give a shit about The Walking Dead, the show or
Speaker 3: the game because I just don't care about this super serious,
Speaker 3: fucking zombie and fiction stuff. It's always boring to me.
Speaker 3: This was just very fun where it's like, okay, we've
Speaker 3: got hordes of zombies, which makes it fun to grab
Speaker 3: these insane weapons and just carve through them on the
Speaker 3: way to go do some stupid thing or kill someone
Speaker 3: in a grocery store. It's all the all the boss
Speaker 3: fights are super memorable and cool. It's I just really
Speaker 3: really like Dead Rising, and I'm glad to be reminded
Speaker 3: of that in a time where it's like Dead Rising
Speaker 3: for was the last one, and we really talked about that.
Speaker 3: Dead Rising Free was all right, but this was my
Speaker 3: favorite for sure. So very fun to go through, and
Speaker 3: I did not expect to play for the whole game. Again,
Speaker 3: that's cool.
Speaker 4: It's cool that you like ended up sucking that much
Speaker 4: time into it, considering like the age of it and everything.
Speaker 3: It's still like I mean, and the remake does smart
Speaker 3: things where you know, the original got a lot of
Speaker 3: shit for like the save system and things like that,
Speaker 3: and this has auto saved, This has some that quality
Speaker 3: life stuff. Obviously, it looks really good. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: very very solid.
Speaker 2: Are the boss fights still annoying?
Speaker 3: They're annoying. I mean, it's kind of like a it's
Speaker 3: a little just janky, just the way everything works, you know,
Speaker 3: the AI is not the most brilliant, and some weapons
Speaker 3: feel like you're just it's like a pea shooter and
Speaker 3: it's a little cheap sometimes, but it's a product of
Speaker 3: its time, and it was still very fun. I wasn't
Speaker 3: like dying five times on a boss in stupid ways
Speaker 3: or whatever. You just got to figure out how to
Speaker 3: cheese it for the most part.
Speaker 1: Okay, are core Keeper.
Speaker 4: I've been playing more core Keeper. I still think it
Speaker 4: would be a really fun bonus episode.
Speaker 2: Core Keepers. Core Keepers really fun. I'm I'm really in
Speaker 2: I just think it's.
Speaker 4: Smart eight player multiplayer where you are digging around looking
Speaker 4: for stuff. I've beaten my fourth boss now, I mean
Speaker 4: it is really enjoyable to track down a boss and
Speaker 4: you have to work with your friends to be like,
Speaker 4: who's laying down traps? The one I just did It
Speaker 4: is a difficult boss to get through. And so it's
Speaker 4: like I was the person who was making health potions,
Speaker 4: so my job was to make the right There's like
Speaker 4: a health barry that you need for the potions, and
Speaker 4: I was like an alchemist, so I was building all
Speaker 4: these potions and like other things that would help increase
Speaker 4: your strength or your defense by thirty percent, which was
Speaker 4: very necessary for this boss.
Speaker 2: Someone else was.
Speaker 4: Mining and then making traps to lay down traps so
Speaker 4: that when the boss runs around, they're actually taking a
Speaker 4: lot of damage. The whole thing took a lot of planning.
Speaker 4: When we finally took it down, it was very exciting.
Speaker 4: And I just think there's something about this game of
Speaker 4: co op. You know, everybody gets to play how they
Speaker 4: want to play. If you want to be more defensive
Speaker 4: or support, if you want to be a miner, if
Speaker 4: you want to be a damage dealer, you can play
Speaker 4: the way you want to play. And so I just
Speaker 4: think it's a really smart game and I'm into it. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: Corekeeper is still dope, what are you playing on? I'm
Speaker 4: playing it on my steam deck, which is also a
Speaker 4: benefit because like if you wanted to play with somebody
Speaker 4: else in your house, they could play on their PC
Speaker 4: or they could play like in the living room while
Speaker 4: you play next to them on the steam deck.
Speaker 2: Like it's a very communal experience.
Speaker 3: Cool, Okay, I want to play it. Yeah, I'm curious. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I downloaded on the steam deck.
Speaker 4: I I think this is like up there for me
Speaker 4: and I am encouraging more people to give it a shot,
Speaker 4: but I do think it is a social game.
Speaker 2: I could not.
Speaker 4: I don't think I could sell this as a solo game.
Speaker 4: It would be like playing Minecraft by yourself, which you
Speaker 4: can do, but I think like the real sell of
Speaker 4: that game is running around in a world with other people.
Speaker 3: I was curious about that, because, yeah, I dowloaded that
Speaker 3: as one of the thirty games I downloaded for the Plane,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I don't know, like reading the description,
Speaker 3: hearing you talk about it, it's like, I don't really
Speaker 3: know if I should play this solo.
Speaker 4: I think that the way you should start this game
Speaker 4: is that we should play it and like dink around together.
Speaker 4: I think it's like an interesting game to figure.
Speaker 2: Out and solve.
Speaker 4: And even the first area, which is like mostly a
Speaker 4: mushroom onunderground area.
Speaker 2: Is cute and cheeky.
Speaker 4: And it's also low stakes. If you die, you just
Speaker 4: go back to home base and you got to go
Speaker 4: get your shit right. It's not the biggest deal in
Speaker 4: the world to accidentally die or go too hard.
Speaker 2: So low punishment. It wants you to explore and be
Speaker 2: a little bit of a ding dong, and I think
Speaker 2: that's great.
Speaker 1: Nice Dan you're playing Blattro on mobile.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm somehow more into Blatro than ever. It's this
Speaker 3: is like the most brilliant game of the year situation.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if they planned it this way,
Speaker 3: but it comes out early on in the year. Everyone
Speaker 3: fucking loves it, and as happens a lot of time,
Speaker 3: a lot of favorites come out early in the year,
Speaker 3: and then people forget about it, become give me the
Speaker 3: year time, and then no, they take the game that
Speaker 3: is the most mobile ready game fucking ever release it
Speaker 3: in late September, and I'm having a whole second wave
Speaker 3: of like I think I am playing it more now
Speaker 3: than I played it back then, and I played hundreds
Speaker 3: of hours back then. Like I've been like having like
Speaker 3: fucked up sleep since Japan, where it's like I'll just
Speaker 3: wake up at two or three or four in the
Speaker 3: morning and super not be able to fall back asleep
Speaker 3: and every time, and this last week I've just been
Speaker 3: grabbed my phone and laying in bed for like five
Speaker 3: hours playing Balatro. I played five hours.
Speaker 1: I had all these sleep because of Belatro, not your.
Speaker 2: No flaming jet lag. But you've been playing Blatro.
Speaker 3: No, it's jet LAG's fault. It's not Palatro.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't come into work again. It's jetlag.
Speaker 3: It's it is kind of a fucking problem at this point.
Speaker 3: Like I I download all these games. I like, I
Speaker 3: you know, I hate flights and everything. So oh, it's
Speaker 3: by the way, I brow dogged the flight home from Tokyo,
Speaker 3: which I did not think I'd be able to do,
Speaker 3: which is fucking crazy. Guy. I'm think I'm kind of
Speaker 3: getting over my flights thof in like the not the
Speaker 3: way people talk about it now, the way we talked
Speaker 3: about it back there were it's just son holds over,
Speaker 3: no Xanax, no beer or anything. And so it's like,
Speaker 3: I think, if I can do that from Tokyo, I
Speaker 3: think I'm I'm pretty confident about my playing Anxiety at
Speaker 3: this point. But I downloaded all these fucking games because
Speaker 3: I down all these movies. I you know, brought my
Speaker 3: ar glasses. I get downloaded you know, all this Switch
Speaker 3: I brought Switch and the Steam Deck. I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: a long. It's like fourteen hours out there, it's eleven
Speaker 3: hours coming back. I wound up just playing fucking Blatro
Speaker 3: for like five hours on the flight out there. And
Speaker 3: then as soon as I get to the hotel, my
Speaker 3: iPad connected to the hotel Wi fi and that over
Speaker 3: wrote my phone save of Balatro with the iPad save,
Speaker 3: so all that five hours was immediately gone. And there
Speaker 3: wasn't even a moment of like, ah shit, It was
Speaker 3: just like, oh no, I guess I had to start
Speaker 3: Pilatro again, like yeah, and I've just been playing that
Speaker 3: save and now it's officially out. It's so fucking good
Speaker 3: on mobile. It is so fucking awesome on iPad. On
Speaker 3: phone it is It's really like I'm playing it while
Speaker 3: I'm eating. I'm playing when I'm I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: on an Apple arcade.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just curious.
Speaker 4: The reason I ask is because like buying a game
Speaker 4: again when I've already bought it.
Speaker 2: Is a bit of a cell for me.
Speaker 1: But I'll do it if it's like, yeah, you never
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it looks like some since it's ten dollars here.
Speaker 3: I just googled it and it says ten dollars.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it like seven? Like, wasn't it fifteen or something?
Speaker 1: On Steam? Initially I might be completed.
Speaker 3: Yes, we lost Mikey, Oh there we go. I don't
Speaker 3: remember how much it was on Steam, but yeah, ten
Speaker 3: dollars for Blatro is good, good, good.
Speaker 2: It's a good amount. It's just like for a mobile
Speaker 2: game that's like, uh, but.
Speaker 4: It's Balatro, but it's Bulatro, baby, Bulatro.
Speaker 3: It is the fucking best I got. I got the
Speaker 3: physical edition on switch they sent me. It's it's the
Speaker 3: best version of Blotro. And we already loved that game.
Speaker 3: We all played it on Steam.
Speaker 4: And what do you mean it's the best version of Bolotro.
Speaker 4: You're saying it plays better on mobile.
Speaker 3: I do think. I do think well because on the
Speaker 3: olead on the Switch old, I played screen and I
Speaker 3: think it is very nice to just be able to
Speaker 3: kind of like it's conducive to just moving cards around
Speaker 3: with your finger and stuff like that. But the size
Speaker 3: of a phone screen or like you know, prop up
Speaker 3: an iPad or something and play like you know, I'll
Speaker 3: have my breakfast in the morning, got my iPad right there,
Speaker 3: and just it is it's more conducive to touch controls
Speaker 3: than it is controllers and just having in your pocket
Speaker 3: all the fucking time. It is the perfect flight game.
Speaker 3: I don't buy. I do not play mobile games at all.
Speaker 3: I have not gotten a new mobile games since Threes,
Speaker 3: which was over a decade ago. At this point, I
Speaker 3: just don't give a shit about playing games on my phone.
Speaker 3: I am full unobsessed with the Blattro a game.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 3: The haptics are really good, like when the cards are
Speaker 3: getting dealt and everything all the like. There is a
Speaker 3: tactile sense of this game that is fantastic. This is
Speaker 3: the version of Blatro.
Speaker 4: Dude, my dad is so freaking into Bolattro. It's really
Speaker 4: it's really cool. It's not all the ways that I
Speaker 4: can get a winner with my dad, like I've I've
Speaker 4: had some good game.
Speaker 2: Pitches to him and some big losses.
Speaker 4: I bought him Blatro and I we're friends on Steam,
Speaker 4: so I get a little notification when he starts a game.
Speaker 4: And it is so funny how often every morning I'll
Speaker 4: be working and like you know, in slack or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I'll get a little notication in the bottom right
Speaker 4: that my dad is playing Bolotro again. He has sunk
Speaker 4: so many hours into Blatro and he can't help it.
Speaker 4: He'll tell me all about it and he'll just be like,
Speaker 4: it's crazy, Mary. How much every time I think I'm
Speaker 4: gonna win, and then the final boss is like you
Speaker 4: can't use spades, and I'm it's rude. Yeah, and the
Speaker 4: anti just like is completely so rude, but it makes
Speaker 4: you always on your toes.
Speaker 2: You might think you have it locked and you don't.
Speaker 4: You have to be very very confident to actually win
Speaker 4: and beat Bilatra.
Speaker 3: You need a plan B Like if you put all
Speaker 3: your stuff in like I'm gonna make all my card spades,
Speaker 3: and then the thing says you can't use spades, well
Speaker 3: you have no better.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also that story Mary, because I with my dad because
Speaker 3: like I'm very selective with my dad about like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think he will like super Mega Baseball too. I
Speaker 3: think he like, but he is very not up for
Speaker 3: trying new things. So it's like one game every three years,
Speaker 3: I'll try. And I tried. I made the big push
Speaker 3: with the black row, got him a Code U, and
Speaker 3: I spent like two hours when he was here when
Speaker 3: after my surgery, like like standing up, like I was
Speaker 3: doing a fucking presentation like okay, so this here you
Speaker 3: see if you hold this, and he did this, and
Speaker 3: I think he saw that there was something there. But
Speaker 3: there was also the Paul record came in where it's like,
Speaker 3: this isn't how poker works. Yeah, it's like, okay, Well I.
Speaker 4: Worried about that too, because my dad, actually, his number
Speaker 4: one hobby is to go to Vegas and play video poker.
Speaker 2: That's his thing, that's what he does.
Speaker 4: My dad goes to Vegas and he plays video poker,
Speaker 4: and so it was very difficult for me to express
Speaker 4: to him, this is poker on crack. It changes the
Speaker 4: rules of poker. You won't play poker anymore. And the
Speaker 4: first time my dad played this game, he got a
Speaker 4: royal flush and was like, I'm the fucking best and
Speaker 4: I was like, you're not, and you don't get it yet.
Speaker 4: And he lost a couple of rounds. But the first
Speaker 4: time he ever won, and I have the text on
Speaker 4: my phone, it's so cute. He was like, I won
Speaker 4: with two pair. Isn't that nuts?
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is nuts, dad, And like
Speaker 2: the fact that he there.
Speaker 4: Was something in his brain that finally clicked that it's
Speaker 4: not about getting the royal flush anymore.
Speaker 2: It's about just leveling up. Will you put that away?
Speaker 4: It's about leveling up whatever hand that you can that
Speaker 4: you think, well, you'll actually get a lot and score.
Speaker 3: Or building a whole deck based off a joker you
Speaker 3: get early on where it's like one of those runs.
Speaker 4: Okay, great, we're deleting half your deck and only having
Speaker 4: heart cards.
Speaker 2: That way you can't not get a flush. So interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the language of poker is good to know, you know,
Speaker 3: it's happiest the visuals of poker. But it is not poker.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, Like I kept telling my dad, like,
Speaker 3: you gotta turn off the start of your brain that
Speaker 3: is telling you to play this like poker because it
Speaker 3: is different than that. And I do think he struggled
Speaker 3: with it. But no, I'm I'm so fucking into it again.
Speaker 1: Best Jokers Game of the Year category.
Speaker 3: I already put it in there.
Speaker 1: It's already there. Okay, gotch I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: assuming you did already out of it? Best Echoes, best Jokers,
Speaker 1: best Yep? What else?
Speaker 3: A few?
Speaker 1: There's got to be something in Infinite Wealth. Oh, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been playing more of Infinite Wealth, like chapter nine.
Speaker 1: I think I'm in now at this point. I like
Speaker 1: that game quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Spoil anything where it's been a while, now where you're at, Like,
Speaker 3: where are you at in the story.
Speaker 1: Fairly far into curious like main arc or like his
Speaker 1: big thing. Okay, like you find out it's I don't
Speaker 1: think it's what happened, what happens with him. But I'm
Speaker 1: back he left, I'm back doing his side of things
Speaker 1: he left.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's ya. I still need to pick
Speaker 3: up up because I got to the point where he
Speaker 3: left and uh oh.
Speaker 1: It starts doing some cool stuff like the next chapter
Speaker 1: after he leaves Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I need to because I was really loving
Speaker 3: that and I think something huge came out and play this.
Speaker 1: I found it pretty easy to pick back up. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I did. I got, I did Dundoku, I did
Speaker 1: the five star resort, and then I hung around for
Speaker 1: another like two or three hours to make it actually
Speaker 1: look good because there at a certain point like for
Speaker 1: four stars, like I just want five stars. I'll put
Speaker 1: buildings where the fuck ever. But uh, I picked up
Speaker 1: the actual j RPG of it all really quick again.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, because I remember when I quit, I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, this is probably a decent time because
Speaker 3: there's a very clear distinct line of like, okay, this
Speaker 3: is in a different spot now, so maybe maybe I'll
Speaker 3: go back going to come out the game of the year.
Speaker 1: The UI is great, Like if you come up to
Speaker 1: the Blacksmith character the engineer, she'll be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can do this and this and this, and then the
Speaker 1: combat will say, oh, this attack does this, and then
Speaker 1: make sure to line them up like this. So it
Speaker 1: was it's pretty easy. And then you know that game's
Speaker 1: cut scenes are pretty expositionary, so they're going to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: last time we spoke, this happened.
Speaker 3: I was right. It's really easy to images of what
Speaker 3: happened in the flashbacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was not hard to jump back into
Speaker 1: it all.
Speaker 3: I'll get back in because I feel like that's going
Speaker 3: to be my top ten this year and I should
Speaker 3: be like a lot.
Speaker 1: I came around on it. The beginning's still weak in
Speaker 1: my opinion, but I mean it's been a while, but.
Speaker 3: It takes a while.
Speaker 2: How many hours are you in though, just to get
Speaker 2: a perspective?
Speaker 1: Chapter nine?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm usually usually at that point.
Speaker 1: I'm usually good at this, but two big play sessions
Speaker 1: split up. Yeah, I would say like thirty probably.
Speaker 3: That's probably where I'm at, like around there. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: no good game.
Speaker 1: You start unlocking all the different jobs, the surfer, the
Speaker 1: fired dancer, the geo dancer, whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 1: It gets great. Yeah, Mary, you're also playing Demons. Sorry, Daisy,
Speaker 1: just closed out of my turn my camera off, just.
Speaker 2: Showing off that the hole and turning off all your systems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is this demon's game you speak of? Uh?
Speaker 4: Demons Mirror is a rogue light sorry, rogue like deck builder,
Speaker 4: and I think for that style of game, it's quite addictive.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: This is a game where you are building a deck
Speaker 4: and you're coming across monsters and a turn based system,
Speaker 4: so they're like going to attack you. You'll see what
Speaker 4: they're about to do above their heads, so they might
Speaker 4: be defending or maybe they're going to attack you, or
Speaker 4: they do something even crazier.
Speaker 2: I feel like this mixes rogue like deck builders with
Speaker 2: with that gem game match.
Speaker 3: Three like a a Jeweled Yes, I'm looking at images.
Speaker 3: It looks like a puzzle quest. A prelade puzzle quest
Speaker 3: is awesome.
Speaker 2: It does have that vibe to it.
Speaker 4: So it's Bejeweled meets a deck builder, and so you're
Speaker 4: coming across these characters. In order to attack them, you
Speaker 4: have to connect and it lets you do it diagonally
Speaker 4: because it's so cool. It lets you connect all of
Speaker 4: your little uh I think there are swords that cross
Speaker 4: to attack if you need to defend because maybe they're
Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna attack you that turn. Then you need
Speaker 4: to connect all your shields. But then it has all
Speaker 4: this like fun additional currency that is really interesting. It
Speaker 4: has this I don't know, green blob currency. If you
Speaker 4: connect all those, it gives you a super power that
Speaker 4: you can only use if you get enough of them.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's like twenty of them, and it adds them
Speaker 4: over time, and so if you get to that, then
Speaker 4: you get to do like twenty five damage or something
Speaker 4: really extreme, or you get to defend more or take
Speaker 4: away one of your because they can they can give you.
Speaker 4: They can give you like cons to your character that
Speaker 4: hurt your character and cause you problems later on, so
Speaker 4: you could like remove an issue that you have with
Speaker 4: your character. I've got really addicted to this game. I
Speaker 4: was shocked how addicted I got to this game. Maybe
Speaker 4: it's because of the Bejeweled aspect of it, of the
Speaker 4: matchmaking system and using that to attack, but also because
Speaker 4: it has a long way to Go. You have to
Speaker 4: be very careful with ever taking damage in that game.
Speaker 4: As you're building your deck, as you're building your character,
Speaker 4: you will get some insane opowers, but if you take
Speaker 4: too much damage, it's very difficult to get your health back,
Speaker 4: and then you die permanently and you have to start your.
Speaker 2: Character and your build all over again to try and
Speaker 2: beat it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like Slay the Spire meets puzzle quests
Speaker 1: meets Yeah, monster Train.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it because it
Speaker 4: combines a lot of the things that people love about
Speaker 4: certain types of games, like Slay the Spire. It's got
Speaker 4: all the good good but I just don't hear anyone
Speaker 4: talking about it. I will say, like, it's got an
Speaker 4: indie ass indie vibe to it, right, like it's it's
Speaker 4: not I wouldn't say it's not polished, but I would
Speaker 4: say like it it doesn't have all the fanfare of
Speaker 4: a really beautiful cutscene intro or anything like that.
Speaker 2: You're like walking in the woods and you come across
Speaker 2: a mirror and it's like and now you're in the game.
Speaker 4: But the game mechanic is very interesting and addictive. It
Speaker 4: also has a random elements to it. So when you're
Speaker 4: not literally in the gameplay screen where you're fighting an enemy,
Speaker 4: you get to choose the path your character walks and
Speaker 4: you can do random element sequences where it'll be like
Speaker 4: you're in the woods and you come across a thorny bush.
Speaker 4: Do you put your hand inside of it? And maybe
Speaker 4: you get like a cool ie? Yeah, you know you did,
Speaker 4: and maybe you get a cool item. But also maybe
Speaker 4: your character takes ten damage, and so you have to
Speaker 4: be very thoughtful of like when you take the risks.
Speaker 4: When you don't, there's more difficult boss battles that will
Speaker 4: give you better rewards, but if you take too much damage,
Speaker 4: it's gonna like really fuck up your character. And then
Speaker 4: in each path there's a boss at the end of
Speaker 4: the path, and the boss does like hella damage or
Speaker 4: has like a crazy amount of health. Some of them
Speaker 4: they do this really interesting thing where they fuck with
Speaker 4: your deck, so they'll give you cards that are worthless,
Speaker 4: So now your deck has these cards that are completely
Speaker 4: unusable and that's a huge pain in your butt.
Speaker 2: Or they do something really interesting in.
Speaker 4: The bejeweled area, they will put a bomb and if
Speaker 4: you can't sink enough stuff to get rid of the bomb.
Speaker 4: It does like twenty or thirty damage to your character,
Speaker 4: so very dramatic. It took me a couple tries. When
Speaker 4: I did beat this game, I felt like a genius.
Speaker 4: I felt like a million dollars. It gave me the
Speaker 4: bilatro vibes of like I can't believe I beat that game.
Speaker 4: I came within a hair of my life like six
Speaker 4: times to beat this game, and so it gave me
Speaker 4: like that real, real good experience of like I barely
Speaker 4: made it, but I did it.
Speaker 2: I beat Demon's Mirror and and so I think it's
Speaker 2: really great.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that I.
Speaker 4: Haven't heard more people talk about this, considering, like all
Speaker 4: the benefits of other other games that people love.
Speaker 2: They're in here.
Speaker 3: I mean, just yeah, looking at a screen chest and
Speaker 3: hearing you describe this, it seems to be using influences
Speaker 3: of that I really like a lot, Like I'm curious
Speaker 3: that also seems like another great team that game.
Speaker 1: Monster Train is one of my favorite, like Rogue Lights,
Speaker 1: and this sounds like it. I mean, Monster Train already
Speaker 1: was a riff on Slay the Spire, but this sounds
Speaker 1: like a riff on both of them, so I'll try
Speaker 1: it so out and match three is always just Mary.
Speaker 3: I you came up on the BombCast this week because
Speaker 3: uh who Grub was talking about Tiny Glade. Have you
Speaker 3: heard of this?
Speaker 2: No, tell me about Tiny Glade?
Speaker 3: Just you know, I love I have not played it,
Speaker 3: but the way Grub was describing it, I said on
Speaker 3: the pomcast, like this sounds like something that Mary is
Speaker 3: going to be bringing up on the fire Escape cast.
Speaker 3: It is like a cozy kind of building thing where
Speaker 3: like building you know, castles and witches, cottages and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, but like very very kind of cozy, not
Speaker 3: super serious. You know, it's not a sim city. It's
Speaker 3: not a city skylines or anything indie cozy city builder
Speaker 3: type thing. Everything Grub was saying sounded like it would
Speaker 3: be up your ally, so.
Speaker 4: So adorable. I love stuff like this. I like get
Speaker 4: really excited about like builders where you just get to
Speaker 4: like make the perfect town. Do you get does it
Speaker 4: gamify it in any way? And I know, like you
Speaker 4: didn't play it, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Curious and I immediately forgot everything Grub said. I just
Speaker 3: remember thinking like, oh, this sounds like a married game.
Speaker 4: Well if we're gonna go down this path because I
Speaker 4: haven't played this game either, but I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 4: I learned about a game recently called Tales of the Shire,
Speaker 4: a Lord of the Rings game, and literally, in this game, Dan,
Speaker 4: you you like grow food in your garden, you cook
Speaker 4: it and turn it into food, and then other Hobbits
Speaker 4: come to your home for dinner and then they judge
Speaker 4: you based on how good the dish is, based on
Speaker 4: like a variety of different things like consistency and how
Speaker 4: high quality.
Speaker 2: The ingredients were from your home. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that is so infinitely my shit.
Speaker 4: I could not believe the idea of like building making
Speaker 4: a fucking soup and having everybody in town judge me
Speaker 4: on how good the consistency of my gaspacho is. If
Speaker 4: it gives me a high rating with the other Hobbits
Speaker 4: of hobbitin, then yes, I am in the Hobbiton.
Speaker 1: That's yes. The name of the town in the Shires Hobbiting.
Speaker 3: That's so stupid.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3: I saw all three of those movies in the theaters
Speaker 3: the weekend that came out. I don't remember a lot
Speaker 3: of them. I did not remember it was hobbiton. That is,
Speaker 3: that's like if we if I lived in Peoplesburg.
Speaker 2: No, it'd be like if you lived in dan Town.
Speaker 2: I've lived in dan.
Speaker 1: Burray, Yeah, you lived in Danbury.
Speaker 2: It's not that one that's so crazy, then, is it?
Speaker 3: That was funny? Yeah, Minneapolis doesn't have any part of
Speaker 3: my name in it.
Speaker 2: And you're like, it's just a bunch of other Dan's
Speaker 2: walking around.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they check your passport when you move in there.
Speaker 3: You just got to be Dan.
Speaker 2: Dan. Hello Dan, Good morning Dan, Doctor Dan?
Speaker 1: You Dan? All right? You want to do some emails?
Speaker 3: Sure? All right?
Speaker 1: As usual, you can write into fire skip cast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That is, firescap Cast at gmail dot
Speaker 1: com for questions, comments, concerns. Might get your questions read.
Speaker 1: On these episodes. I've got a few. I'm going to
Speaker 1: read this first one from Sage and Brandon because I
Speaker 1: want to give a shout. Sagean Brandon actually invited us
Speaker 1: three to their wedding, but it's on October thirteenth, so
Speaker 1: I don't know Sagean Brandon when our saved the date?
Speaker 1: Where was our invite a few months ago? It feels
Speaker 1: like a last minute thing. I'm trying not to be insulted.
Speaker 1: I'm completely kidding ill me in Jersey. Yeah, that's so sage.
Speaker 1: But thank you Brandon. And also they will have the
Speaker 1: same anniversary as my wife and me thirteen. It's a
Speaker 1: good Uh, it's a good anniversary.
Speaker 4: Also, Stage and Brandon, congratulations on your upcoming wedding. Yes,
Speaker 4: it is a very stressful time and I know it
Speaker 4: will be a very good time.
Speaker 3: Talk about handles.
Speaker 2: Enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stage, it's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you guys mild or hot sauce wedding people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta answer a couple of questions, but you
Speaker 3: know it's worth.
Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you Stage and Brandon. But they did
Speaker 1: have a question as well, and I figured out.
Speaker 4: Lucky Bog doesn't get the praise they deserve for accepting
Speaker 4: Taco Bell wedding.
Speaker 3: Hey, she wanted, she was ready to do a courthouse wedding.
Speaker 3: So that's why with competent And when that popped up,
Speaker 3: I was like, I can bring this up the bog.
Speaker 3: She dad knows She's like, I don't want to do
Speaker 3: the big, weird dream wedding thing. I knew she'd be
Speaker 3: gained for it.
Speaker 4: That's so cool, you guys are like made in Taco
Speaker 4: Bell Heaven together.
Speaker 2: I think that's very sweet. Anyway, onto the.
Speaker 1: Email, Yeah, Stasian Brandon said, High Fire Escape Crew. Is
Speaker 1: there any advice you guys would give on a happy
Speaker 1: and healthy marriage? Once again, thank you all so much
Speaker 1: for almost four years of entertainment with love Sasan Brandon.
Speaker 1: You two have been married longer than I have. I'm
Speaker 1: coming up on a year actually on October thirteenth. We're
Speaker 1: just talking about. So I'm coming up on a year
Speaker 1: been with Amanda for it will have been like four
Speaker 1: and a half fish years. But I'll talk last, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: here I go.
Speaker 3: I'm on almost seven and a half years of marriage,
Speaker 3: almost ten years of being with bank. It's it gets
Speaker 3: easier as you get to know someone and so like
Speaker 3: it was never hard, you know, Bonka and I always
Speaker 3: got along so well. But like as you just kind
Speaker 3: of know someone their routines and how they operate and
Speaker 3: things like that, you can just recognize things, you know,
Speaker 3: and when to give space and when to you know,
Speaker 3: hang out, when to do that. Like you just once
Speaker 3: you get to know someone over years and years and years,
Speaker 3: just just notice the way they're like, Okay, this is
Speaker 3: maybe the time to hang back, let them have their time,
Speaker 3: and two different people. You know, there was a marriage,
Speaker 3: but like I think I thought early on that it
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you know, I'm married. You know it's
Speaker 3: got to be you know, every night, I got to
Speaker 3: be planning this stuff and doing this thing and doing
Speaker 3: all these things together and doing all this and like, no,
Speaker 3: it's still two different people that with two different lives
Speaker 3: that are like doing their own thing, and it's and
Speaker 3: everyone's different. You know, maybe one couple will want to
Speaker 3: be together doing stuff every single night. Maybe one couple
Speaker 3: you know, like they okay, we like bonk and I
Speaker 3: a lot of times, like I'm playing a game down here,
Speaker 3: she's playing a game up there. You know, she's working,
Speaker 3: she's doing Japanese lessons, I'm doing my thing. I'm streaming
Speaker 3: and like just wrecking eyes. Like when to give space, uh,
Speaker 3: and when to you know, give the time to you know,
Speaker 3: do stuff as a couple. But it's stuff that comes naturally,
Speaker 3: like so it's not even like advice. It's just stuff
Speaker 3: that like you will just pick this stuff up over time,
Speaker 3: and I just think it gets easier. I Mean the
Speaker 3: cliche is communication and that has always been a huge
Speaker 3: thing with me and Bank where it's like a third.
Speaker 3: I probably over communicate. I probably like if I'm feeling
Speaker 3: something or want to talk about something, I'll bring it
Speaker 3: up like right away. And yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I am upset, upset.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty much never upset.
Speaker 1: I really did not mean it as a barb. I
Speaker 1: just you do over communicating is not always bad, but.
Speaker 2: You do you're to say how do you feel? Which
Speaker 2: is a good thing.
Speaker 3: I think I do that so much that like that
Speaker 3: whole like wearing your opinions and thoughts on your sleeve,
Speaker 3: Like I think I don't even think about it anymore.
Speaker 1: It's help. Just like I all I'm saying is I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised that you you are there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, making and I would stand by that. Like I
Speaker 3: just feel like full disclosure and full honesty and full
Speaker 3: like just being yourself one hundred percent of the way
Speaker 3: in every situation is it's never done me wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's in a marriage or a job or interpersonal
Speaker 3: friendship stuff or whatever. So just yeah, it's two different people.
Speaker 3: Both of you feel totally free to be yourselves all
Speaker 3: the time and communicate whenever if anything does come up,
Speaker 3: bring it up, talk about it, like, don't don't let
Speaker 3: anything fester. It doesn't help anyone.
Speaker 2: That's good advice.
Speaker 4: I don't usually talk about my personal life very often,
Speaker 4: but I've the reason that Dan and Mike went to
Speaker 4: Portland was because I had my tenure wedding anniversary. I've
Speaker 4: been married for ten years, which is crazy, and I've
Speaker 4: known them for fourteen years, which is even crazier. I
Speaker 4: keep it really private because it is a different part
Speaker 4: of me that is very important, and I kind of
Speaker 4: like that it's mine and it's not for other people,
Speaker 4: and I don't really discuss it.
Speaker 2: It's just something that I have.
Speaker 4: And I think the secret for me is I feel
Speaker 4: very similarly to Dan, which is we are two very
Speaker 4: different people.
Speaker 2: And it is so important.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how similar you are, it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: what you have in common. It's about acknowledging that you're
Speaker 4: two separate people with two different dreams and ambitions and vibes,
Speaker 4: and you have totally different reactions to things, but you're
Speaker 4: both really valid and important, and so when you've decided
Speaker 4: to spend your life with another person, it's kind of
Speaker 4: really aligning that you will need to think about and
Speaker 4: empathize with them on a greater level than you have
Speaker 4: with any other person you've ever met before.
Speaker 2: And so when they're upset, you need to really think
Speaker 2: about it and be like, wow, why are you upset?
Speaker 4: If they are scared or confused, or if they're having
Speaker 4: a problem, you really think about it and be like, wow,
Speaker 4: how can I help this person? How can I be
Speaker 4: there for them? And when you do that, they get
Speaker 4: to do it back to you and it fills your cup.
Speaker 4: Is like one of the most magical things in the world.
Speaker 4: When I am upset because something happened with me at
Speaker 4: work and my partner is like, I get it, and
Speaker 4: I'm there and I'm with you, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: make your favorite meal or I'm going to like help
Speaker 4: you out through that tough time in your life. Is
Speaker 4: awesome to be able to support another person through tough
Speaker 4: times in their life and then be the person who
Speaker 4: gets taken care of in a tough time in your life.
Speaker 4: It's like one of the greatest gifts on earth. And
Speaker 4: so the opportunities arise when you are not expecting it.
Speaker 4: It's maybe during a tough time or a scary time
Speaker 4: or a stressful time, and that's your time to shine.
Speaker 4: So if you notice it and you recognize it and
Speaker 4: you're like, oh my gosh, this is it. That's your
Speaker 4: time to shine, that's your time to be there for
Speaker 4: your partner, and then that person will do that back
Speaker 4: for you and it is like just the awesome exchange
Speaker 4: of goodwill and mental health and support and it's so much.
Speaker 4: It's so much better with another but it's so much
Speaker 4: it's so much better with another person who's like, I
Speaker 4: know you need this, so I'm going to give it
Speaker 4: to you. Like what a cool, cool system. So be
Speaker 4: there during those moments. They will They will happen when
Speaker 4: you least expect. It is not something you can plan for.
Speaker 4: You just gotta you gotta, you got to show up
Speaker 4: when the time calls it.
Speaker 3: It is so cool to just have your person that
Speaker 3: you know that can thin you know, good times and
Speaker 3: bad and everything that Like again, as time goes on,
Speaker 3: it only gets better and you know, just the amount
Speaker 3: of experiences and memories and hey remember that time or
Speaker 3: this thing, I remember this, and it's just like it's
Speaker 3: that you share all of these moments with you know,
Speaker 3: you know, if some big thing happens in your life
Speaker 3: whatever to always.
Speaker 2: Have that celebrations too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it really is like the best thing
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 4: It's cool to share, and I think it's great that
Speaker 4: you're going to get that opportunity to do that for
Speaker 4: so long and so like stage in Brandon, like this
Speaker 4: is going to be the start of a really epic journey,
Speaker 4: like an ultimate path where you get to be there
Speaker 4: for each other through thick and thin, and showing up
Speaker 4: for each other is one of the coolest things in
Speaker 4: the world. And that's like what you'll remember thirty years
Speaker 4: from now when you look back on this and you're like,
Speaker 4: can you believe we've been doing this for thirty years.
Speaker 4: It's the times when you were like, we're there for
Speaker 4: each other during like the cool times and the tough times.
Speaker 4: That's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun too when it's like it's been long
Speaker 3: enough to where it's like, you know, Bonk and I
Speaker 3: will bring up something like from twenty fifteen in nine nuts, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we lived in San Francisco, and it's like, hey, remember
Speaker 3: when we did this. It's like, wow, it just feels
Speaker 3: like a lifetime ago and just kind of that realization, like, man,
Speaker 3: we have really just been through so much together and
Speaker 3: it's built numerous different lives and you know, moving around
Speaker 3: and job situations and stuff like that. It's just it
Speaker 3: only gets more rewarding as time goes on.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. I think it's like really sweet to
Speaker 2: hear you talk about it like that too.
Speaker 3: It's I lucked the fuck out with her.
Speaker 2: Yes, she did exactly.
Speaker 3: Who I should be with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's incredible.
Speaker 1: In the year, I think early on and I'm still
Speaker 1: early on our marriage, but in the first few months,
Speaker 1: I think the thing that I had to work around
Speaker 1: was anytime I fucked up, like minor fuck ups, like
Speaker 1: oh I kind of started this minor argument this, or
Speaker 1: that I think I put more pressure on myself because
Speaker 1: we were married now, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 3: There's no ripcord there. I mean there is, but like, no, no,
Speaker 3: not that there's no.
Speaker 1: It's more that I was like, I think I was
Speaker 1: putting more pressure on myself to be perfect, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm a husband now, I can't start
Speaker 1: dumb arguments about.
Speaker 2: Our marriage is broken, about scallop.
Speaker 1: Should have been flipped earlier, or something.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, that's why my dad and my mom got divorced.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, because he's yeah, yeah, I'm sitting Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I know it's cliche for people here, cliche.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't go to bed angry. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think that actually holds weight.
Speaker 3: And I don't think we've ever done it once.
Speaker 1: A yeah, both of you know me and Amanda pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think we would both qualify as pretty big personalities sometimes,
Speaker 1: so like it's not like we don't clash every once
Speaker 1: in a while, but I think the thing that we
Speaker 1: have discovered this first year, or I mean even going
Speaker 1: back before we were married, in the four years we've
Speaker 1: known each other, it's like, even when you're like having disagreements,
Speaker 1: I think it helps a lot to throw little things
Speaker 1: in there to remind the other person that's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I realize we're still on the same team. This is
Speaker 1: just this is an argument, like you're wrong and I'm right,
Speaker 1: but like at the end of the day, like I'm
Speaker 1: we're a team. I think it helps to like even
Speaker 1: at your when you really think, like when you're being
Speaker 1: stubborn or whatever, it's like, I think you should throw
Speaker 1: some breadcrumbs to remind then it's like, hey, I am
Speaker 1: thinking about you, I am thinking about us just arguing
Speaker 1: right now, but also like at the of the day
Speaker 1: we're on the same team. I'm still gonna say I
Speaker 1: love you before we go to bed and whatever. So
Speaker 1: like it's just it's more like letting things go. And
Speaker 1: both Aman and I are very very forgiving people, and
Speaker 1: we really don't argue often, despite like me saying all this,
Speaker 1: like but we are just can.
Speaker 4: Say this because people hide away from that type of thing,
Speaker 4: But that is an honest relationship.
Speaker 1: It I to be clear, I was one of those
Speaker 1: people before I met Amanda. I was like the people
Speaker 1: who say their best friend is their spouse or such
Speaker 1: or their partner. It's like that's such horseshit, shut up,
Speaker 1: but that's bullshit. And now that I'm there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh god, I really I get it, Like she really is.
Speaker 1: We do literally everything together. But even like Dan mentioned,
Speaker 1: when we're doing our own things. When I'm back here
Speaker 1: playing video games, she's stitching out front. Like I'll go
Speaker 1: out and like hang out and it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's great, but I guess it's just like there's
Speaker 1: you're spending every waking not every waking moment, but you're
Speaker 1: spending a shit ton of time with someone. You're two humans.
Speaker 1: You are going to disagree, it's going to it's going
Speaker 1: to cause like some friction every once in a while,
Speaker 1: you're gonna disagree, or like you're gonna need space like
Speaker 1: Dan mentioned, or you know you're gonna have one person's
Speaker 1: gonna have hard times. Like you said, Mary, I'm always
Speaker 1: very bad at asking for help. I'm very good at
Speaker 1: like giving it to a man, and she's very good
Speaker 1: at giving to me. I'm very bad at asking. I've
Speaker 1: I've learned to get better at asking for it because
Speaker 1: she's always like, you need to do that. But again,
Speaker 1: I think it's like, just as often as you can
Speaker 1: remember that it's not gonna be perfect. There is no perfect,
Speaker 1: but there is I think in the imperfection there's a
Speaker 1: lot of space to remind the other person's like I
Speaker 1: might be annoyed right now, might be pissed, but like,
Speaker 1: I'm still here for you. And if you if you
Speaker 1: literally said, like this this argument sucks, I really need
Speaker 1: to like Okay, cool, that's fine, we'll let it go.
Speaker 3: I think a really important trait to have or ability
Speaker 3: to have is you know, disagreements are going to happen
Speaker 3: with any relationship or marriage, and and to have the
Speaker 3: know to be able to come back afterwards, maybe if
Speaker 3: it's an hour, a day or a week after a
Speaker 3: disagreement or something, upon thinking about things and sleeping on things,
Speaker 3: to say like, hey, I've been thinking about this thing,
Speaker 3: I was in the wrong with this, or I overreacted
Speaker 3: to this thing, or you know, I'm sorry I didn't
Speaker 3: see this, or you know, like just to be able
Speaker 3: to like analyze yourself as well and also just be like,
Speaker 3: you know, just like you were right, Like you know,
Speaker 3: it might not be every disagreement or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but like to be willing to look at the way
Speaker 3: you've acted and be like I was wrong with that
Speaker 3: like that. I think that's an important ability to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, humbling yourself is so necessary in a relationship.
Speaker 2: You have to be able to really.
Speaker 4: Like dive deep into yourself and acknowledge when you've been
Speaker 4: wrong and things like that. And to that point, I'd
Speaker 4: also love to take this opportunity to reduce the stigma
Speaker 4: associated with counseling or going to a therapist and say
Speaker 4: that couple's therapy is so awesome. It is so normal
Speaker 4: and cool and worth doing. And it is not a
Speaker 4: thing for like couples in trouble or like something that's bad.
Speaker 4: Do it now, Do it now, and like start talking
Speaker 4: to each other with a person there. That'll be like
Speaker 4: tell me more about why you love this other person.
Speaker 4: It will give you literally sixty minutes excuse to talk
Speaker 4: to each other and look at each other and like
Speaker 4: answer questions about each other. It's awesome, it's super worth doing.
Speaker 4: And I think like there's still an associated stigma, not
Speaker 4: just with couples therapy, but with therapy in general, which
Speaker 4: is like what are you fixing?
Speaker 1: And it's like nothing, like you've already lost if you're
Speaker 1: going to therapy totally.
Speaker 3: No is like going to get a physical just to
Speaker 3: check in, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like the best money I ever
Speaker 4: spent because it gave me a good reason to talk
Speaker 4: about the relation and about what was going on, and
Speaker 4: it gave me like an excuse, like a good reason
Speaker 4: to be like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to use this
Speaker 4: time to just talk to you. It's awesome, so worth it,
Speaker 4: So like I don't know who needs to hear this,
Speaker 4: but like the therapy is rad it's super worth every
Speaker 4: dime that you spend. Sometimes you need to find like
Speaker 4: the right person. There's like a good caveat to that
Speaker 4: not every therapist is for everyone, so you got to
Speaker 4: find your person. But I feel very strongly to reduce
Speaker 4: the stigma that therapy is great and worth doing and
Speaker 4: it's not to fix you.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is a maintenance or just like a four year
Speaker 2: well being, So like check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine it's I know for a fact, it's
Speaker 1: like deep conversations, even between two people who are like
Speaker 1: love each other and who are best friends, don't just
Speaker 1: come up naturally all that often. So like to go
Speaker 1: to a space where that's what you're there for seems
Speaker 1: like a good like freeing kind of thing. It's also
Speaker 1: getting away from the day to day his job, her job,
Speaker 1: their job, like here, hobbies or whatever. Getting away from
Speaker 1: that seems like it be a good like space to
Speaker 1: get to.
Speaker 3: My therapist will frequently tell me stories about when he
Speaker 3: was just a wild man in New Jersey and going
Speaker 3: to his friend's bar and there's snorting lines of coke
Speaker 3: off a literal rocket launcher that his friend bought from
Speaker 3: the Russians because he thought cops were coming to shut
Speaker 3: down his bar, and so they did a bunch of
Speaker 3: blow a rocket launcher. Is this bar I've never were?
Speaker 3: My therapist is a trip? Where is this bar?
Speaker 1: Where can I do lines off the rocket launcher?
Speaker 3: As this guy is d oh, My therapist is really
Speaker 3: he's like, is seventy eight and he just tells me
Speaker 3: stories that I'm like, oh my god, you have lived
Speaker 3: a lift.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I'm gonna we'll talk more about this
Speaker 1: after because I got to find there's.
Speaker 2: A lot of uncovered. Therapist was snorting a bunch of
Speaker 2: cocaine off.
Speaker 3: He said he you used to just go drink like
Speaker 3: non stop, just like a million, you know, shots and
Speaker 3: coke and all this stuff. And now he's like, no, no, now,
Speaker 3: I just every night I take two shots tequila and
Speaker 3: I just kind of noodle on the guitar for like
Speaker 3: two hours every night like this guy.
Speaker 4: Anyway, tell me more about your psychosomatic problems.
Speaker 2: What dreams have you been having lately?
Speaker 1: Anyway? You dan, Yeah, it sounds cool.
Speaker 3: I mean that my.
Speaker 2: Therapist never shuts up about their pneumatic spud gun.
Speaker 3: But other than that, they're really cool doing Jeff fox
Speaker 3: Worthy jokes about you might be a sputter?
Speaker 1: Uh Mary, do you want to read this one? From Max?
Speaker 1: We had this on the docket last episode, but I
Speaker 1: saved it for.
Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Uh Hey, crew, longtime, fire Escape, Giant Bomb, Kanini, Not
Speaker 4: So Silent Hills, and replay Fan y'all have given me
Speaker 4: countless laughs over the years. I've got friends and family
Speaker 4: in Portland. I'm planning on moving there from Texas soon
Speaker 4: in case Nixon wins in November, and I was wondering
Speaker 4: if Mary had any advice since she's been there a while.
Speaker 4: I love you guys, sincerely, Max from Austin originally Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: We got to read the PS.
Speaker 1: Yeah please do it.
Speaker 2: PS.
Speaker 4: When I saw mcgroober in theater, someone brought their grade
Speaker 4: school aged son and almost left during the scene in
Speaker 4: which he offers to suck off Piper in exchange for
Speaker 4: joining his team. Then they left for real when he
Speaker 4: porks his dead wife cheers porks.
Speaker 3: His dead wife's ghost.
Speaker 1: Le let's let's not be crass there.
Speaker 3: Night Communication was communicating with Vicky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really a good community.
Speaker 1: That's like a Kenny. I think we might need to
Speaker 1: be ready to leave, and then he's just going to.
Speaker 3: Annie, I will fuck you. I will let you fuck me.
Speaker 3: Point something in the room and I'll fuck it. For
Speaker 3: you to just tell me what do you want me
Speaker 3: to fuck?
Speaker 1: Do you have flight out?
Speaker 3: We got copy Toner. I don't have any lupe, but
Speaker 3: I got wide out and Copytoner. That's the funniest thing
Speaker 3: in the world to me, that his knee jerk reaction
Speaker 3: to any conflict is like offering just suck dicks. God damn,
Speaker 3: I didn't watch that movie again.
Speaker 1: I can actually say this because the episode is not
Speaker 1: publishing till Monday. We're we're leaving for to go to
Speaker 1: Hawaii next week, so this weekend we're taking it easy
Speaker 1: and we got a few movies planned that we're gonna watch.
Speaker 1: Oh and I think I'm gonna cue up macgroober and
Speaker 1: play it and I I just can't. I gotta play
Speaker 1: it before she sits down so she doesn't see the title,
Speaker 1: like and pause and whatnot.
Speaker 3: You want to make a plan for it, want to
Speaker 3: be like I I do think mcgoeber is one of
Speaker 3: those litmus test movies where if somebody just watched mcgroober
Speaker 3: and did not understand how fucking funny it is. I
Speaker 3: think it's like I just can't. There's a certain level
Speaker 3: I can't relate to when if you don't think it's funny,
Speaker 3: she'll like it.
Speaker 1: I just quote it so often and talk about it
Speaker 1: so often, I think it's become this like like thing
Speaker 1: task ahead of her.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, it's like so it's got so much prestige
Speaker 4: now that it might even like have this cloud over again.
Speaker 2: You don't want to sell it that hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be tough. I remember, like when I
Speaker 3: went to college, everyone I was constantly I mean, I
Speaker 3: like God Bother, but macgoover's better than God Bother. In college,
Speaker 3: everyone's non stop quoting fucking super Troopers, then always super Troopers,
Speaker 3: and then Napoleon Dynamite was another example. And I saw
Speaker 3: both of them and I didn't like hate either of them,
Speaker 3: but it was just like, okay, fine, But I felt
Speaker 3: like I'd heard every joke a million times already, Like
Speaker 3: I get that, I understand that, well, yeah, but still
Speaker 3: it's mcgroober we're talking about.
Speaker 4: It's mcgroober so Portland, uh so Max from Austin originally
Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh, you're asking advice for someone moving to Portland
Speaker 4: from out of state. That is what I did originally
Speaker 4: from the Ohio space coming to Portland. Portland's changed a lot.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of family who are third gen
Speaker 4: so I have people who have been Oregonians for a
Speaker 4: long time, and they can be a bit apprehensive. Not everybody,
Speaker 4: but some can be at the idea of outsiders coming
Speaker 4: in and like altering the city's structure.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Cities change. You're allowed to move here.
Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 4: What I will say is, like the Portland culture that
Speaker 4: makes it so special and enjoyable, you don't want to alter.
Speaker 4: So do your best to participate in what makes Portland weird.
Speaker 4: Get involved in the scenes that are of interest to you,
Speaker 4: and participate in the weirdness that is Poorland, whether that
Speaker 4: be naked bike rides which are delightful and really strange
Speaker 4: and enjoyable, or get involved in one of the strange
Speaker 4: hobbyist activities like the rave scene at Mount Tabor on Wednesdays,
Speaker 4: or joining just a strange club, which there are plenty of.
Speaker 4: Get into the thrash metal scene, you name it, but
Speaker 4: please get involved in the culture of Portland and don't
Speaker 4: just like observe from afar and be like, I don't
Speaker 4: know why everybody said it's so weird. It's weird because
Speaker 4: you have to get involved in the strangeness of this place.
Speaker 4: There's lots of different places that you could live. I
Speaker 4: don't recommend downtown. I recommend an area outside of downtown,
Speaker 4: like southeast or northeast, or just a different area that
Speaker 4: gives you access to lots of bars and life and
Speaker 4: food that is in walking distance. Portland has an excellent
Speaker 4: bike score, so move to an area where you can
Speaker 4: bike or walk to bars or nightlife and go out
Speaker 4: and enjoy yourself in this weird, eclectic town and participate
Speaker 4: in the weirdness that is the space. I think that's
Speaker 4: what makes it special. That's why I love it so much,
Speaker 4: is because I can't stop going to places and meeting
Speaker 4: people and being like, oh, that's strange. I'm definitely going
Speaker 4: to go see that slam poetry or that drag brunch.
Speaker 4: You have to be involved if you want to enjoy
Speaker 4: it and try lots of different foods and bars and.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the people. I'm stoked to have you.
Speaker 3: Portland's rad Pine State biscuits.
Speaker 2: That's the best advice.
Speaker 4: And it's so cute because you guys asked me for
Speaker 4: a recommendation for brunch and I said, do you like
Speaker 4: biscuits and Bunk was like, ah, yes, and I said
Speaker 4: Pine State Biscuits.
Speaker 2: Go to Pine State Biscuits.
Speaker 3: I'm not a breakfast person at all. I don't like
Speaker 3: breakfast food for the most part, or I don't care
Speaker 3: for weren't necessarily that was one of the best, like
Speaker 3: the biscuits and gravy there, or the best in the
Speaker 3: hash browns, the coffee. If we go back to Portland,
Speaker 3: we are absolutely going back there. That was the best. Shit.
Speaker 4: It's such a wonderful feeling when I give someone a
Speaker 4: recommendation that like, that was a bomb recommendation. Ben Hansen
Speaker 4: was recently here from mid Max. They went to Panic.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget. This is so embarrassing. They texted me
Speaker 4: and said, Hey, I'm coming to Portland so that I
Speaker 4: can go to Panic. So we should meet up at
Speaker 4: some point. And I read picnic. It's the one that
Speaker 4: does the yellow device with the little handle, the crank.
Speaker 3: Oh the plate, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Also publisher like they do other stuff.
Speaker 4: But like I think that's what they're known for, and
Speaker 4: I read Picnic and so when the night we were
Speaker 4: supposed to meet came up, I texted them and said,
Speaker 4: how was the park? And I think he wrote back
Speaker 4: was like what And I was like, Oh, I thought
Speaker 4: you were coming to Picnic, but it sounds like you
Speaker 4: were coming to go to Panic. Don't tell anyone that
Speaker 4: I said this to you, and I believe he did
Speaker 4: tell everyone. So thanks for nothing better. We went to
Speaker 4: dinner and they asked for a recommendation of where to
Speaker 4: go to dinner, and I said, We're going to Reel
Speaker 4: them In, which is a dive ass dive bar that
Speaker 4: makes fried chicken and I think the best fried chicken
Speaker 4: in Portland. And we went there and we had so
Speaker 4: much fun, and it was really awesome to have Ben
Speaker 4: Hansen basically say to me, like, what a good recommendation.
Speaker 4: This is delicious. I'm loving this food and this chicken.
Speaker 4: And I was like, yes, right again, I did it again.
Speaker 3: You are like top tier recommender. Like if you really
Speaker 3: put yourself behind something, I trust that implicitly completely. You've
Speaker 3: never steered me wrong. How much did you know Hanson before?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to picture you two in the same place.
Speaker 4: And I know, I mean I've only really interacted with
Speaker 4: Hanson most of the time through you, right, like from
Speaker 4: visiting you and from your time and his time and
Speaker 4: game informers. So I've interacted with Ben several times and
Speaker 4: we have a very cordial and like, you know, enjoyable relationship.
Speaker 4: But it was the first time Ben was like, I'm
Speaker 4: coming to Portland. We got to get dinner. What a
Speaker 4: sweet dude, by the way for doing that and reaching
Speaker 4: out and being like we're going out to dinner, like
Speaker 4: can't wait to see you. Ask me for recommendations for
Speaker 4: his meetup with min Max followers, which I recommended Gigantic Brewery.
Speaker 4: It's a lovely, uh Portland based brewery.
Speaker 2: They do great work.
Speaker 4: But just like such a delightful person to be around,
Speaker 4: and they were gonna vlog Real them in but before
Speaker 4: they did, Ben texted me was like.
Speaker 2: Will it be like neutral or positive or negative that
Speaker 2: I've log Real them in?
Speaker 4: And I was like, not a problem at all, but
Speaker 4: just like a very kind person to double check with
Speaker 4: me that it wouldn't bother me that they did that.
Speaker 2: I just think he's a good person.
Speaker 3: He is an incredible person and also like the best
Speaker 3: in the business at what he does. He is I
Speaker 3: know I've said it for many, many years, but Ben
Speaker 3: Hansen is just the best the industry has to offer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Ben is a good person, and their.
Speaker 4: Group that they've created with min max is such a
Speaker 4: good reflection of that, because all the people I met
Speaker 4: at the min max meetup also lovely people, really interested
Speaker 4: in games, and there were like other people from that
Speaker 4: space that I just I don't know. I just think
Speaker 4: like a really good group of gamers that enjoyed talking
Speaker 4: about their hobbies that I enjoyed.
Speaker 3: Were you with aid picture with Kelsey? She there?
Speaker 4: Kelsey was there as well, whom I did not know
Speaker 4: from Pink Grin. Yeah, and was there for Retro Game Fest, which.
Speaker 3: Is uh, that's right, because when I went to that
Speaker 3: Hawthorne Game Exchange when I was visiting you, they were
Speaker 3: are you in town for the Retro Gamefest? And I
Speaker 3: think I just missed it by like a week or two.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Pink pink Rill is awesome.
Speaker 4: I hadn't met Kelsey before, but I cannot tell you
Speaker 4: how inspiring it is in games to meet someone who
Speaker 4: has been running owning and like doing great at running
Speaker 4: a basically like a retro game store for eight years.
Speaker 4: Kelsey isn't just cool, She's like an inspiration to other
Speaker 4: women in the games industry for basically like killing it
Speaker 4: at a very difficult industry in their space, and and
Speaker 4: pioneering and paving the path for like other people, not
Speaker 4: just women, but like basically anyone to be able to
Speaker 4: do this for a living.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Kelsey is super rad. I was
Speaker 2: actually intimidated.
Speaker 4: It doesn't happen very often, but like when I met Kelsey,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, Like this isn't just like anybody.
Speaker 4: This is like a very cool person in this space
Speaker 4: and very down to earth. Kelsey also, for the record,
Speaker 4: said this is the best fried chicken I've ever had
Speaker 4: in my life.
Speaker 2: And she said it and it'll be on the blog,
Speaker 2: so I'm not making that up.
Speaker 3: Next time I have to go.
Speaker 4: There, she said it was the best fried chicken she
Speaker 4: ever had in her life, and I was like, you're
Speaker 4: goddamn right, it is. And the funny thing about Real
Speaker 4: Amen is like there's only.
Speaker 2: It is a divy bar. It is small.
Speaker 4: It has one person that works here, and there is
Speaker 4: one bucket in which they fry the chicken in and
Speaker 4: if you do not make it in that bucket, it
Speaker 4: is forty minutes until the next bucket. And if you
Speaker 4: don't make it into that bucket, then it's forty minutes
Speaker 4: until the next bucket. So you will wait an hour
Speaker 4: and a half for your fucking fried chicken and it
Speaker 4: will be so delicious and absolutely worth every minute that
Speaker 4: you waited.
Speaker 2: And Kelsey.
Speaker 4: I said that to Kelsey, and when we got it,
Speaker 4: she was like, it's really worth every minute that I
Speaker 4: waited for.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I fucking told you.
Speaker 4: It was really awesome that she had their reaction, I
Speaker 4: hope that she had, But Kelsey was really rad. The
Speaker 4: Pink Gorilla Crew is really great. And yeah, Ben Henson
Speaker 4: holds a tight group of brad people with.
Speaker 3: Him, so he's a good He's a very good judge
Speaker 3: of character and I for talent, and yeah, just facilitator
Speaker 3: of great conversation and check out men Max. He's doing
Speaker 3: special stuff over there for sure, especially like Postgame Informer,
Speaker 3: like the shutdown and all that stuff. Like Tony is
Speaker 3: like the archivist and Game Informer is such an important
Speaker 3: part of my entire life that it makes me feel
Speaker 3: good to see someone like Hanson that is like doing
Speaker 3: it right, like doing really interesting content about the legacy
Speaker 3: and how important Game Informer was. We did kind of
Speaker 3: a wake for a Game Informer about a month or
Speaker 3: two ago, month and a half ago or something at
Speaker 3: a brewery, and it was just like a bunch of
Speaker 3: people before my people after my time, people like everyone
Speaker 3: that I worked with for the most part like and
Speaker 3: it was just such a positive, cool thing to like, man,
Speaker 3: game Informer was very very important to the industry and
Speaker 3: to my life. And I just I love what Hanson
Speaker 3: is doing in the wake of what happened to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good person and he he speaks really
Speaker 4: highly of a lot of people that he worked with
Speaker 4: a Game Informer, and we have something in common, which
Speaker 4: is like we both love and despise you.
Speaker 2: And I think that's really lovely.
Speaker 3: And I think that's the most time you could ask Kayla,
Speaker 3: my sister, she would probably say the same thing.
Speaker 4: So that's kind Sometimes check out the min max blog,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure it comes up, which is just like
Speaker 4: we love and also hate that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Do I subscribe to his patreon to watch that?
Speaker 1: Or do I?
Speaker 2: I hope so I want. I want to turn you
Speaker 2: upside down and shake your boarders out of your pocket.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give Ben money. I see you
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: You owe him so much.
Speaker 3: Give you do I ow Hanson anything because you are
Speaker 3: who you are.
Speaker 2: Dan, give him your money.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. I'll buy him a beer.
Speaker 1: Oh that is so you.
Speaker 2: Next time I hang out with Ben, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about this.
Speaker 1: Ben's okay.
Speaker 3: I'll see my Monday.
Speaker 1: All right. Thank you, Max from Austin, originally from Pittsburgh. Dan,
Speaker 1: you want to read this last one from Warren from Pennsylvania. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Aaron Warren, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: We've got High Fire Escape Crew. I love the podcast.
Speaker 3: I've been listening from the starting and bring so much
Speaker 3: joy to me. As I am driving around on episode ninety,
Speaker 3: I was shocked to hear guests Jeff g mentioned the
Speaker 3: Holiday Valley Ski Resort, as it is only forty five
Speaker 3: minutes from my house and where my high school ski
Speaker 3: club went every Sunday in the winter. I was more
Speaker 3: shocked to hear that Jeff was an avid snowboarder. What
Speaker 3: do you all think is your most shocking skill or
Speaker 3: hobby that people wouldn't guess from your podcast personas that's
Speaker 3: Aaron from Warren, Pennsylvania. Yeah, I feel like I'm in
Speaker 3: ninety podcasts a week, so I feel like there's not
Speaker 3: a lot that would like. So there are certain things
Speaker 3: that I maybe just don't bring up a lot because
Speaker 3: there's not a lot to like update on. Like I
Speaker 3: meditate a lot, I run a lot. I you know,
Speaker 3: like there's not I think.
Speaker 4: Author is something a lot of people would not associate
Speaker 4: with you. I think people would not naturally assume that
Speaker 4: you have written multiple books.
Speaker 3: I guess it's been a while since it's been almost
Speaker 3: ten years since I wrote one. But yeah, and I
Speaker 3: guess two of them.
Speaker 2: Were the first author. I think that's shocking.
Speaker 3: Self published anyone can do that.
Speaker 2: You were on the Dan Times bestseller list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would the Anxiety book. I am constantly surprised
Speaker 3: by how many people come up to me and talk
Speaker 3: about how that like got them to start meditating or
Speaker 3: doing yoga or you know, like getting their anxiety and
Speaker 3: check because like, you know, I've wrote those Air Force
Speaker 3: Gater books and they were the joke, dumb them. The
Speaker 3: whole point was, wouldn't it be dumb if I wrote
Speaker 3: a whole book about an alligator in the air Force
Speaker 3: that so it was a bit, it was a joke,
Speaker 3: but the Anxiety one, it's like, holy shit, like that
Speaker 3: wound up being like one of the biggest things I've
Speaker 3: ever put out there that it actually helped people. And
Speaker 3: I hear every fucking time I go to a packs
Speaker 3: or anything, like the amount of messages and people come
Speaker 3: out to me to talk about that. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm that and I always tell them, I always say
Speaker 3: the same thing I always say, like that is my
Speaker 3: favorite feedback to here is that, you know, because it's
Speaker 3: fun to like go on and make a bunch of
Speaker 3: jokes about video games and you know, farts or whatever.
Speaker 3: But to hear that I got someone to do something
Speaker 3: that put them in a better space mentally or made
Speaker 3: them understand or acknowledge or go after treatment for their anxiety,
Speaker 3: like that is, uh, that is my favorite thing to hear,
Speaker 3: and I've heard it a lot. So yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: that Anxiety Book was a very big part of my life.
Speaker 3: And I don't even call it career. It was a
Speaker 3: project I did. But yeah, I'm very very proud of that.
Speaker 1: Mike, Well, it's tough because we Yeah, we talk about
Speaker 1: most of it here. I guess it's less like the
Speaker 1: one podcast people wouldn't associate me with, and it's more
Speaker 1: what do I talk about the least on here? Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys spend our apartment. I spend a fair amount
Speaker 1: of time every week, like gardening. It's indoor, but like
Speaker 1: it comes from growing up gardening and growing up with
Speaker 1: two grandpas who were farmers. So like, I don't talk
Speaker 1: about my I don't know. I don't find the need
Speaker 1: to talk about my like plants and shit.
Speaker 3: But I keep on Instagram, and it's the wine and cats.
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of gardening gardening tips.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think at this point people who listen
Speaker 1: to Fireescape associate me with wine. But I don't think
Speaker 1: did I freeze? All Right, Well, I'm gonna keep going
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 3: Reason we just tend to do that.
Speaker 1: No, I'd say it's I say it's plants or something.
Speaker 3: He's back, He's back.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to keep talking anytime this happens, because
Speaker 1: the recording is not going to be freezing.
Speaker 3: It catches up, It catches up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I don't think anybody here knows I'm
Speaker 1: I like wine a lot. I think that's news.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you don't know about.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, such an enigma, Mike, I know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Do you play that guitar that's clearly in your background.
Speaker 1: No, I'm terrible at it on a mandolin, it's not
Speaker 1: a guitar, just like a Venetian cover of Smoke on
Speaker 1: the Water.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I try it every once in a while, but
Speaker 1: I don't really play that that much.
Speaker 3: I think, like if you, if we people doing what
Speaker 3: we do when we're on podcasts a bunch, you have
Speaker 3: to make a concerted effort to just say, okay, this
Speaker 3: is a thing I'm sectioning off and I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about And like I do feel like I've kind of
Speaker 3: put it all out there for a long time, Like
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't think of something where it's like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, people hear that I'm really into, you know,
Speaker 3: going to meteorology school. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like this goes through my like social media feeds as well.
Speaker 1: I do not I do not post about exercise ever,
Speaker 1: but I spend a decent amount of time doing it.
Speaker 3: I've thought about that with you, because like you do,
Speaker 3: I know you work out a lot I've heard you
Speaker 3: you'll you'll message me about.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, work out too.
Speaker 4: You're actually very active and Mike always looks cut and
Speaker 4: I recently lost ten pounds.
Speaker 2: So that's something we all want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not something we we post about. I think
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I don't want to put words
Speaker 1: in your mouth, but I find it to be a
Speaker 1: meditative thing. I feel like moment I start making it
Speaker 1: social and public, it ceases to be a relaxing thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that. It Also, I feel like it
Speaker 3: would come across as like kind of misturbatory. Is that
Speaker 3: how you said that word? Yeah, of just like look
Speaker 3: at me, like you know, the gym selv type stuff like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna post a sweaty thing post run just
Speaker 3: way eight miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I want to acknowledge. I know some
Speaker 1: people do it to keep themselves accountable to.
Speaker 2: Like, it's also totally fine yea.
Speaker 1: For me, Yes for me, I agree with you, Dan,
Speaker 1: I never want to do that because for me personally,
Speaker 1: that is a world away from things. It's like an
Speaker 1: hour hour twenty every day or or five six days
Speaker 1: a week when I can just get away from social media,
Speaker 1: get away. Well, I'm not on social media much, but
Speaker 1: like get away from video games, get away from work,
Speaker 1: from errands, from house stuff, handiwork, it's I don't it's
Speaker 1: not something I want to talk about because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah that that That's a good example of that, because
Speaker 3: it's something that I think we all do on a
Speaker 3: regular basis, but we talk about it infrequently at best.
Speaker 3: You know, like I'm not going to update on the
Speaker 3: runs every week on the podcast or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but like it is a big part of my life
Speaker 3: and something I think about a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also I love to run.
Speaker 4: That is something for me and I very rarely post
Speaker 4: about it or update about it because it is like
Speaker 4: a zen thing that I get to do for me
Speaker 4: and it's not for other people. Other things that I
Speaker 4: really rarely ever talk about but I do is that
Speaker 4: I'm a serial hobbyist in the sense that I do
Speaker 4: a lot of hobbies not not to get good at it,
Speaker 4: but just because I find it to be appealing. And
Speaker 4: those things include, but are not limited to, making crap
Speaker 4: out of clay, water color, felt needling, cross stitching. I
Speaker 4: make shit out of stained glass, that's right, and I
Speaker 4: don't post about them because it's not for anything besides.
Speaker 4: I think it's good or my brain and it helps
Speaker 4: me pass the time in a nice way, and I
Speaker 4: really encourage other people to do it. You do not
Speaker 4: need to make your hobby a side hustle that you
Speaker 4: make money off of or something that you post about
Speaker 4: for social media. It can just be because you wanted
Speaker 4: to paint it, and good for you and make that
Speaker 4: little thing. And you can also just not love it
Speaker 4: because it's not super cute and that's fine. But if
Speaker 4: it helped you pass the day and it gave you
Speaker 4: something to think about besides your job, then that's a win.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 4: So I just think like sometimes we put a lot
Speaker 4: of pressure on ourselves that like we need to be
Speaker 4: really good at our hobbies. I think you can be
Speaker 4: absolutely asked at your hobbies and that's also successful as
Speaker 4: long as it stopped you from thinking about stressful things.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, thank you Aaron from Pennsylvania. That's our show.
Speaker 1: Everybody you can read that was a good show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Firescape cast more questions, send them in. It's good.
Speaker 2: I could rate that show.
Speaker 4: I would have rated it five stars because I think
Speaker 4: that it was really charismatic and fun, and we went
Speaker 4: a really long time and I enjoyed doing it with
Speaker 4: all of you. Five stars for Dan and five stars
Speaker 4: for Mike.
Speaker 3: I'm a ten point guy. I prefer ten point scales,
Speaker 3: and I'm also very protective of the ten. So I'll
Speaker 3: say nine point five.
Speaker 2: That's not a ten point scale. That's a twenty point
Speaker 2: scale because you did a point system within.
Speaker 3: Nine point Oh sorry, wait no, no game in form
Speaker 3: forty point scale, forty point scale, nine point five. You
Speaker 3: could do nine point two five, nine point five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: forty one Famitsu style game and Former Style nine point five.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of difference between nine two five and
Speaker 1: a nine to five.
Speaker 2: I know if I could fuse this podcast, I would
Speaker 2: give it god teer.
Speaker 3: I like to say that there's never been a ten,
Speaker 3: you know, like I never wanted to give a ten review.
Speaker 3: I always held out to that very I did wind
Speaker 3: up giving one. But I want it to matter. That matters,
Speaker 3: so it Yeah, gotta hang out with the link between worlds, Okay,
Speaker 3: I love that game.
Speaker 2: So you would not give uh the new Astrobot a ten.
Speaker 3: That's a ten. But that's the thing, that's why it matters.
Speaker 3: It's because I don't do it much at in the
Speaker 3: history of this podcast. I'm turning give a ten too.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't get pick them four or ten. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: give tears to Kingdom of ten. Hey, wouldn't give returnal Haites? Nope, Nope,
Speaker 3: no eighties. Hey, the nine point seven.
Speaker 1: Blows Astrobot out of the fucking water. Astrobot is. Astrobot
Speaker 1: is like fucking daycare, such a conversation.
Speaker 3: Haites is a nine point seventy five one of the
Speaker 3: best games of all time. Astrobot is a straight up ten.
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Speaker 1: dot com. Dan, what do you have going on outside
Speaker 1: of Firescape.
Speaker 3: Giant bomb dot com. Got some fun stuff ramping up
Speaker 3: As we approach the end of the year as always.
Speaker 3: I've actually been home for a little bit, so I'm
Speaker 3: doing more personal streaming on Twitch, dot tv, Slash, Dan
Speaker 3: Reichert these days, Instagram, Dan Record. That's about where I'm at.
Speaker 1: My god, Mary, what about you?
Speaker 4: Folso streaming on Twitch on Mondays, and I think that's
Speaker 4: it for other stuff that's outside of my jobby job.
Speaker 2: So you can check out my streams. I've been streaming
Speaker 2: most of the games that I talk about every Monday.
Speaker 1: Sweet that's episode ninety one coming up on a Hundy.
Speaker 3: We should have an actual plan for one hundred. That's
Speaker 3: a big mile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we're close enough now where we can
Speaker 1: really just pinpoint the day.
Speaker 3: Let's joked about like we should do something for fifty,
Speaker 3: we should do something for twenty five, like one hundred,
Speaker 3: we're if we're gonna do something, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Go to Portland.
Speaker 3: Go to Portland.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll have biscuits. Oh okay, Oh, get your controller
Speaker 4: back yo, man.
Speaker 1: Alright, I'm gonna we gotta watch that movie this weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, everybody, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: for yet another episode. We will be back in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Congratulations again to Stage and Brandon. October thirteenth, A good day,
Speaker 1: get married. Can't wait till next year when we share
Speaker 1: an anniversary. We will be back on October twenty first,
Speaker 1: with episode ninety two, getting closer to that Halloween. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're doing actually, this is fun really quick. A bunch
Speaker 1: of my good friends we do friends giving every year
Speaker 1: at their place before we go see our families. However,
Speaker 1: because most of us are crazy busy in November, we're
Speaker 1: doing it last weekend of October. We're combining it with Halloween.
Speaker 1: We're doing the thing where you pull a lottery of
Speaker 1: one of the friends and you have to dresses them.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, that's funny. I've heard of this.
Speaker 2: I've seen it on like the TikTok, and it's very funny.
Speaker 3: It's very fun.
Speaker 1: Some of my friends listening to this podcast occasionally, so
Speaker 1: I can't say who I got. And also no one
Speaker 1: who listens fucking knows anybody, so this is just useless anyway.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll be back.
Speaker 2: There's two trends I like.
Speaker 4: There's the dress is someone Random's spouse from the party,
Speaker 4: which is very funny because there's like a lot of
Speaker 4: cross dressing funny things that happen where they're like I
Speaker 4: have a Fendy bag because I always go I don't
Speaker 4: go anywhere without my Fendy bags. You're just like making
Speaker 4: a little cute jokes of other people and it's always lighthearted.
Speaker 2: The other one I really like, yes, And.
Speaker 4: The other one I really like is the want you
Speaker 4: guys fuck at each other and suck at each other
Speaker 4: and doing the little fishbowl party.
Speaker 2: The other one is wear the T shirt that's meant to.
Speaker 4: Embarrass somebody else at the party, and so you like
Speaker 4: buy a T shirt from Amazon that's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: a furry, what about it?
Speaker 2: And you give it to somebody else and they have
Speaker 2: to go out side with it.
Speaker 3: You know what I like is I I see the
Speaker 3: younger folks on Instagram are doing these parties with the
Speaker 3: power points. I think that's clever. I think that that
Speaker 3: seems like a fun thing to do. I think the
Speaker 3: kids are all right with that. We can do that
Speaker 3: PowerPoint stuff.
Speaker 2: When do you guys peg each other? Though, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: before or after.
Speaker 3: The PowerPoint peg?
Speaker 1: The power points about pegging, so during pegg God a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I don't think they can just fucking awesome. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's I'm gonna call it an episode. We'll see you
Speaker 1: on October. What did I say?
Speaker 3: Twenty first out?
Speaker 2: D Don't go to Mike's Pegel parties like pegl parties.
Speaker 3: I like Mike.
Speaker 1: See you guys, Bye, don't go bye.
Speaker 3: I like peckle
Speaker 1: H h