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<v Speaker 1>We are. We're diving straight into the clinical trenches today

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<v Speaker 1>with a text that, honestly it kind of fundamentally changes

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<v Speaker 1>how you look at patient diagnostics.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, we're unpacking the third edition of a really

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<v Speaker 1>renowned book, one hundred and fifty Problemmas the ECG by

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<v Speaker 1>doctor John R. Hampton. He's the emeritus Professor of Cardiology

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Nottingham.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and for all the medical students, the residents and

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<v Speaker 2>the clinical learners joining us today, you should really consider

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<v Speaker 2>this deep dive of a sort of master class.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're taking all that dense textbook cardiology and translating it

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<v Speaker 2>into actual actionable bedside knowledge because.

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<v Speaker 1>The overarching mission of this book, the whole point of

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<v Speaker 1>it is to bridge that gap between like theoretical electrophysiology

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<v Speaker 1>and the actual living, breathing, often highly unpredictable human being

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right there on your exam table.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Doctor Hampton basically makes the argument that sure, mastering

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<v Speaker 2>the foundational books is completely necessary, but the clinical reality

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<v Speaker 2>is well, it's vastly more nuanced than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a fascinating premise because I feel like in

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<v Speaker 1>medicine we naturally crave objective precision.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, for sure, we want a clear answer, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if a.

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<v Speaker 1>Patient comes in with trauma to the forearm, you order

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<v Speaker 1>an X ray, you see the jagged white line through

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<v Speaker 1>the radius, and boom, you have your fracture. It's visual,

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<v Speaker 1>it's structural, it is definitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then you step into the cardiovascular realm exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You print out a twelve lead ECG and suddenly you

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at a diagnostic landscape that is just incredibly murky.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just a two dimensional representation of electrical vectors.

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<v Speaker 2>And those squiggly lions are They're never just black and white, No.

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<v Speaker 1>They require interpretation entirely through the lens of the patient's presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>You just cannot separate the paper from the person.

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<v Speaker 2>You really can't. I mean. The ECG is a phenomenal tool, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It gives us this rapid, non invasive look at the

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<v Speaker 2>heart's electrical conduction system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. But relying on it without the clinical context

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<v Speaker 2>is a really dangerous game. And that brings us to

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<v Speaker 2>Hampton's golden rule for this whole deep dive, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that the patient's history and their physical exam those always

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<v Speaker 2>have to dictate your interpretation of the tracing, not the

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<v Speaker 2>other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's test that rule with a scenario that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every clinician dreads.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>So a patient presents to the emergency department and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a highly convincing history of an acute myocardial infarction.

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<v Speaker 2>The classic presentation, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They have that heavy radiating ischemic pain, their sweating dive

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<v Speaker 1>reesists the whole clinical picture. You run the ECG in

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<v Speaker 1>that first hour, and it is completely pristine, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>normal sinus rhythm, no st segment deviation, completely normal tea waves.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks perfect on paper exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And the temptation for a busy, maybe overworked clinician might

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<v Speaker 1>be to look at that normal tracing, feel a false

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<v Speaker 1>sense of security, and just consider discharging them.

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<v Speaker 2>But doing that would be completely ignoring the actual underlying

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<v Speaker 2>path of physiology of aeschemia. Because if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this and wondering, wait, how can actively dying heart muscle

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<v Speaker 2>fail to register on an ECG, Well, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the timeline of cellular injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not instantaneous, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. The ECG is measuring electrical gradients across

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<v Speaker 2>cell membranes. So when a coronary artery occludes, the myocardium

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<v Speaker 2>distal to that blockage becomes hypoxic. It's starving for oxygen,

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<v Speaker 2>but it takes time for that lack of oxygen to

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<v Speaker 2>actually deplete the cellular atp stores. And until those energy

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<v Speaker 2>stores are fully depleted the sodium potassium pumps on the cells,

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<v Speaker 2>they just keep working and so the resting membrane potential

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<v Speaker 2>remains relatively stable.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, so the electrical signature literally hasn't changed yet

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<v Speaker 1>because the cellular machinery hasn't completely failed, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>tissue itself is like screaming for oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>You capture the mechanical timeline perfectly there. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>st segment elevation that we always look for that only

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<v Speaker 2>occurs after the transmembrane potential alters enough to create an

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<v Speaker 2>actual current of injury. Yeah, so in those early hours,

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<v Speaker 2>the tissue is definitely a schemic, but the electrical gradient

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't shifted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, which is terrifying, honestly it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is exactly why a normal ECG in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of really strong clinical suspicion means absolutely nothing, so

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<v Speaker 2>you admit them always. You have to admit the patient,

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<v Speaker 2>observe them, perform serial ECGs, and crucially track their plasma

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<v Speaker 2>troponin levels.

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<v Speaker 1>Because its opponents give you that biochemical proof, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>proof of myocardial necrosis, way before the electrical vectors have

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<v Speaker 1>time to catch up and change.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like trying to drive a car by

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<v Speaker 1>only looking at the dashboard gages and totally ignoring the windshield.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a great analogy, Like you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Look down and see you have a full tank of gas,

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<v Speaker 1>the engine tip is fine, but you could literally still

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<v Speaker 1>be driving off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The ECG is essentially just a trailing indicator in

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<v Speaker 2>that specific early window, right. And you know doctor Hampton

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<v Speaker 2>also applies this exact same logic to heart failure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He notes that while an ECG can show you signs

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<v Speaker 2>of prior insults, like say, pathological Q waves from an

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<v Speaker 2>old infact, it cannot definitively prove mechanical failure because it's

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<v Speaker 2>just electricity exactly. It's primarily a tool for ruling out pathology.

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<v Speaker 2>In this context, if the ECG is completely normal, then

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<v Speaker 2>significant heart failure is highly unlikely, but an abnormal ECG

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't just automatically confirm it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, it measures electricity, not ejection fraction. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we take this concept that a normal ECG doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee a healthy patient and we flip it, we arrive

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<v Speaker 1>at another one of Hampton's core lessons. Right, Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>an abnormal looking ECG does not automatically dictate the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of an actual disease.

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<v Speaker 2>Which perfectly explains the really unique structure of his book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love how we organized it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. He doesn't group the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty cases by pathology, you know, like putting all the

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<v Speaker 2>bundle branch blocks neatly in chapter four and then all

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<v Speaker 2>the techacardias in chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Five, right, which is how every other textbook does it.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, he presents them completely randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what the clinic is like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the clinical environment does not sort your patients by

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<v Speaker 2>difficulty or by anatomical system. The trioge nurse doesn't send

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<v Speaker 2>you a really simple sinus arrhythmia followed neatly by a

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<v Speaker 2>complex av block.

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<v Speaker 1>You just never know what's coming through the door.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be prepared to interpret whatever prints out

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<v Speaker 2>recognizing physiological adaptations that are essentially masquerading as pathology.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, like the voltage criteria for leftventricular hypertrophy or LVH.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a perfect example of it. It really is,

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<v Speaker 1>because you look at the precordial leads right, and the

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<v Speaker 1>V five is say, well over thirty five millimeters. Huge spikes,

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<v Speaker 1>massive spikes on paper. It absolutely meets the textbook circle

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<v Speaker 1>alion criteria for LVH.

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<v Speaker 2>It does.

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<v Speaker 1>But Hampton argues, if this tracing belongs to a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year old, totally asymptomatic university student is thin and active,

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<v Speaker 1>this is highly likely just a normal variant. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>what is the actual physical mechanism driving that massive voltage

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<v Speaker 1>on the paper if the heart muscle isn't actually hyperta feed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it really just comes down to basic physics. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all about the proximity of the recording electrodes to the

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<v Speaker 2>actual myocardium. Oh y yeah, So in a young, thin individual,

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<v Speaker 2>there is very little adipose tissue or even muscle mass

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<v Speaker 1>Placed, so there's less insulation exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The electrical signal just doesn't have to travel through all

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<v Speaker 2>those insulating layers to reach the leads, so naturally the

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<v Speaker 2>amplitude of the signal is going to be significantly higher

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<v Speaker 2>on the print out. Wow, the machine just interprets that

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<v Speaker 2>strong signal as a large muscle mass, fulfilling the criteria

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<v Speaker 2>for LVH. But in reality, the leads are literally just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting closer to the source.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes so much sense, But I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>puts the clinician in a really tough spot, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Absolutely, Or it's Cardiology's tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because we know that athletes undergo physiological remodeling. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>athletes heart, But we also know that asymptomatic hypertrophic cardimiopathy

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<v Speaker 1>HCM is a leading cause of sudden cardiac death in

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<v Speaker 1>that exact same demographic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge concern.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a young athlete's ACG is showing this massive

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<v Speaker 1>voltage and maybe even some weird repolarization abnormalities, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you clinically differentiate between oh, they just have a thin

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<v Speaker 1>chest wall or a physiological adaptation versus you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lethal septal hypertrophy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the critical question and the answer is you have

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<v Speaker 2>to step away from the electrical data entirely and gather

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<v Speaker 2>anatomical data. Okay, you order an echo cardiogram.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the ultrasound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the ECPO can only ever suggest hypertrophy based on

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<v Speaker 2>voltage amplitude. But the echo uses ultrasound to directly visualize

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<v Speaker 2>and measure the actual physical thickness of the ventricular walls

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<v Speaker 2>and the innerventricular septum, like in millimeters.

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<v Speaker 1>So it takes the guesswork out completely.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you definitively if there's is structural pathology that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually obstructing the outflow tract. Basically, we use the ECG

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<v Speaker 2>to flag the anomaly, but we use the echo to

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<v Speaker 2>diagnose the reality, the real.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, Okay, So let's apply this diagnostic framework

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the specific cases in Hampton's.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He uses this really cool star system to rate the

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<v Speaker 1>complexity of the tracings and it escalates from like everyday

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<v Speaker 1>common findings up to critical co blue emergencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great progression.

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<v Speaker 1>So starting right at the baseline, we have one star

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<v Speaker 1>case this feature is a patient with a normal chest

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<v Speaker 1>X ray and an ECG showing normal sinus rhythm, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's punctuated by frequent ventricular extra systelles or PVCs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and seeing premature ventricular contractions on a rhythm strip

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<v Speaker 2>is incredibly common.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, happens all the time, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>And for a lot of learners, their immediate instinct is

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<v Speaker 2>to look at those ectopic beats and consider anti arrhythmic suppression, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to fix this rhythm, but the Golden rule says,

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<v Speaker 2>exc apply the Golden rule. Look at the patient. Often

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<v Speaker 2>they are completely asymptomatic. They don't even feel the palpitation,

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<v Speaker 2>so without any underlying structural heart disease, these ectopic beats

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<v Speaker 2>are frequently just driven by totally benign factors like what

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<v Speaker 2>caffe caffeine definitely or increase sympathetic tone, stress, lack of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>If the overall clinical picture is stable, those extra systelis

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<v Speaker 2>are often clinically insignificant.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the PVCs are basically just the everyday electrical

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<v Speaker 1>noise of the heart pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at what happens when the conduction system actually starts

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<v Speaker 1>to degenerate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, moving up to the two star cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Hampton presents this intermediate two star case of an

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<v Speaker 1>ankl edema and a really brady kartic pulse like forty

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<v Speaker 1>beats permitted. So he's symptomatic very and the ECG is

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<v Speaker 1>super complex. It shows atrial fibrillation with a slow ventricular response,

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<v Speaker 1>a left axis deviation, and a left bundle branch blow LBBB.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. So for the learners trying to visualize this,

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<v Speaker 1>can you walk us through the actual mechanics of that

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<v Speaker 1>left axis deviation in the LBBB, Like, how does the

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<v Speaker 1>vector of electricity actually physically shift in this patient's chest?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So to understand the shift, we first have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at normal conduction. Typically, that electrical impulse travels rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>exact same time, simultaneously, right right, And because the bulk

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<v Speaker 2>the dominant mean electrical vector points downward into.

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<v Speaker 1>The patient's left Okay, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now introduce the left bundle branch block that rapid electrical

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<v Speaker 2>highway down the left side is now completely severed. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So the impulse travels down the intact right bundle and

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<v Speaker 2>it depolarizes the right ventricle. First.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so the right side of the heart actually contracts well,

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, the synchrony is completely lost.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds horribly inefficient.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. What happens is the electrical signal then has

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<v Speaker 2>to slowly spread sell by cell from the right ventricle

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<v Speaker 2>all the way across the inner ventricular septum and finally

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<v Speaker 2>up into that massive left ventricle.

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<v Speaker 1>Is diffusing across the tissue.

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<v Speaker 2>Right instead of using the fast per KINJ fibers. And

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<v Speaker 2>because this depolarization is moving in a totally abnormal direction

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<v Speaker 2>from right to left and often inferior to superior, just

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<v Speaker 2>to reach the lateral wall, the overall mean electrical vector

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<v Speaker 2>is pulled sharply upward and leftward.

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<v Speaker 1>And that upward and leftward pull is the left axis

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, and that slow cell to cell spread through the

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<v Speaker 2>myocardium is exactly what creates that wide, bizarre looking QRS

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<v Speaker 1>That is so cool to visualize, and tracing this back

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<v Speaker 1>to the eighty year old patient symptoms. This electrical detour is,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, highly inefficient, very The age fifty relation

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<v Speaker 1>means he has totally lost his agrial kick and the

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<v Speaker 1>LBBB means his ventricles are contracting asynchronously.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so his over cardiac output just drops, which directly

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<v Speaker 2>leads to the dysmya and the Perferl edema.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like the tracing is literally showing us the mechanical

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<v Speaker 2>It really highlights the progression of conduction system disease, and

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<v Speaker 2>that actually leads us directly into the territory of.

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<v Speaker 1>The three star cases, the scary ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are the critical precipice scenarios. So the text

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<v Speaker 2>highlights a tracing showing a bifisicular block. Okay, specifically it's

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<v Speaker 2>a right bundle branch block paired with a left posterior

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<v Speaker 2>hemiblock and Hampton flags this as a massive warning sign

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<v Speaker 2>because it carries a really high risk of progressing to complete.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart block, complete electrical failure. To really grasp why this

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<v Speaker 1>is so precarious. I feel like we need to picture

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<v Speaker 1>the anatomy of the his perking system because we always

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<v Speaker 1>just two pathways. It's really a trifascicular system, isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the right bundle branch is a single distinct

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<v Speaker 2>pathway supplying the right ventricle, but the left bundle branch

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<v Speaker 2>it splits almost immediately into two main fascicles. Okay, the

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<v Speaker 2>left antier vesicle and the left post sterior fascicle. So

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<v Speaker 2>essentially you have three main electrical highways supplying the ventricle.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we have a right bundle branch block and

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<v Speaker 1>a left posterior hammiblock, two of those three highways are

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<v Speaker 1>totally shut down. Yes, the entire depolarization of both ventricles

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<v Speaker 1>is now relying entirely on that one single remaining left

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<v Speaker 1>anterior fascicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. It's literally like a major interstate highway where

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<v Speaker 1>two lanes are closed for construction and all the traffic

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<v Speaker 1>is being forced over a single superfragile detour bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a brilliant way to picture it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fragile bridge that often shares the exact same compromised

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<v Speaker 2>blood supply as the pathways that just failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In many cases, these fascicles are supplied by the septal

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<v Speaker 2>branches of the left anterior descendant artery. So if a

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<v Speaker 2>schemic disease or maybe degenerative fibrosis like LEFS disease or

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<v Speaker 2>Lenagre's disease has already destroyed the right bundle and the posterior.

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<v Speaker 1>Fac then that anti your fascicle is probably highly diseased

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's hanging by a thread.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that final fascicle fails.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the electrical connection between the atria and the ventricles

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<v Speaker 2>is completely severed. You have complete heart block.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The ventricles might generate a slow, totally unreliable escape rhythm,

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<v Speaker 2>or they might just stop entirely, which leads to a

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<v Speaker 2>systal and sudden cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>So by recognizing that specific biphysiculo pattern on the ECG,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually anticipate that total failure before it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole point. It prompts you to prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>transcutaneous pacing or get cardiology involved immediately. You are treating

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<v Speaker 2>the trajectory of the disease, not just the rhythm you

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<v Speaker 2>see in that exact moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, the conduction system is just fascinating. But as Hampton

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<v Speaker 1>points out, it doesn't operate in the vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it definitely doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The heart is bathed in the patient's blood. And he

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<v Speaker 1>makes this really compelling case for the ECG acting as

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of systemic mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where chemical changes in the body profoundly alter the

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<v Speaker 1>all electrical signature on the paper. Let's talk about that well.

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<v Speaker 2>Electrolyte imbalances are probably the classic example of this systemic reflection,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly when you're looking at the tea wave. So hypercolemia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is elevated serum potassium that classically presents with tall,

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<v Speaker 2>peaked and narrow tea waves, but hypocolemi low potassium manifests

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<v Speaker 2>with T wave inversion, s T depression and these really

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<v Speaker 2>prominent EU waves.

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<v Speaker 1>But why does potassium specifically target the repolarization phase of

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<v Speaker 1>the ECG, like what is actually happening at the ion

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<v Speaker 1>channel level to physically change the shape of that wave

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<v Speaker 1>on the paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for that, it requires looking at phase three of

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<v Speaker 2>the cardiac action potential.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, take us back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Physiology, right, So after the myocardial cell depolarizes and physically contracts,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to reset its electrical gradient to prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>the next beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>This rapid repolarization phase is driven almost entirely by the

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<v Speaker 2>rapid e flux of potassium ions rushing out of the cell,

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<v Speaker 2>and the speed and the slope of that eflux that

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<v Speaker 2>is what dictates the actual shape of the teawave.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's a direct reflection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, If you alter the extracellular concentration of potassium, you

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<v Speaker 2>alter the concentration gradient across that cell membrane. So in

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<v Speaker 2>hypercolemia you have too much potassium outside the cell. That

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<v Speaker 2>altered gradient actually causes a much faster, steeper repolarization, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what narrows and peaks the teawave.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in hypocalmia, the repolarization is prolonged, which flattens

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<v Speaker 2>the tea wave and actually exposes the U wave, and

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<v Speaker 2>that uwave is generally thought to represent the delay repolarization

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<v Speaker 2>of the Perkini fibers.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just incredible to think that you are visually

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<v Speaker 1>observing the altered kinetic flow of ions on a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of graph paper. It really is, and this interplay between

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<v Speaker 1>systemic chemistry and electrical function it becomes literally deadly. In

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<v Speaker 1>Case one seventeen from the book, Oh, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great case, Hampin presents this patient with atrial fibrillation who

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly develops frequent ventricular extra systillies. Now on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks like the cardac tissue is becoming irrit

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<v Speaker 1>but the actual diagnosis requires looking at the patient's medication

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<v Speaker 1>list and their metabolic panel. It's a case of digitalis

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<v Speaker 1>toxicity exacerbated by hypocalemia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So digoxin. It's an older cardiac glycoside that we

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<v Speaker 2>heart failure. Its mechanism of action is absolutely critical to

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<v Speaker 2>understand here. It worked by inhibiting the sodium potassium at

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<v Speaker 2>pace pump on the myocardial cell membrane. Okay, by blocking

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<v Speaker 2>this pump, the intracellular sodium levels increase, and that buildup

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<v Speaker 2>of sodium reduces the activity of the sodium calcium exchange,

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<v Speaker 2>which means which ultimately traps more calcium inside the cell,

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<v Speaker 2>and that increases the force of the heart's contraction.

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<v Speaker 1>But the therapeutic window for digoxin is notoriously like razor thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Very narrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does the hypocolemia actually factor in to trigger the toxicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, potassium and digoxin actually compete for the exact same

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<v Speaker 2>binding site on that sodium potassium atipasee pump.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if the patient is hypocolemic, say maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>on a loop diuretic like furosmide that's wasting their potassium,

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<v Speaker 2>there is just less extracellular potassium to compete with the digoxin.

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<v Speaker 1>So the digoxin just takes over.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, The drug binds much more extensively to those pumps

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<v Speaker 2>and severely inhibits them. And this massive intracellular calcium overload

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<v Speaker 2>leads to delayed after depolarizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Which are what exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're essentially the spontaneous releases of calcium from the sarcoplasmic

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<v Speaker 2>reticulum during the resting phase, and those spontaneous releases are

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<v Speaker 2>what trigger the early ectopic beats that you see on

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<v Speaker 2>the strip as ventricular extra systiles.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a clinician just looked at the strip, merely

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<v Speaker 1>saw the extra systiles and administered an anti arrhythmic without

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<v Speaker 1>actually checking the electrolytes in the medication history.

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<v Speaker 2>They would be completely ignoring the fundamental mechanism of the arrhythmia.

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<v Speaker 2>They would basically be treating the smoke and completely ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>That's a powerful way to put it, treating the smoke

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<v Speaker 1>and ignoring the fire. Yeah, and this concept of the

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<v Speaker 1>systemic mirror, it reaches its absolute peak in what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is one of the most complex cases in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>Case one forty eight, The zebra. The zebra because in

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<v Speaker 1>medical training, you know, we are constantly taught the aphorism

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, focus on the most likely diagnosis first.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, But sometimes the patient actually is a zebra. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, the tracing shows a broad complex tachycardia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a highly unstable heart rate somewhere between one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>Beats per minute, extremely fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The baseline is completely irregular, and it exhibits a left

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<v Speaker 1>bundle branch block pattern. Now, the immediate assumption would be

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<v Speaker 1>what a massive primary structural heart defect or maybe severe

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<v Speaker 1>primary schemia.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that would be the horse, but the.

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<v Speaker 1>Underlying ideology for this tracing was actually cephalitic aortitis.

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<v Speaker 2>It is such a phenomenal case study in progressive pathophysiology

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<v Speaker 2>because to understand it we have to trace the destruction backward.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, walk us through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So syphilis in its tertiary stage can cause this really

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<v Speaker 2>profound inflammation of the vase of asaurum. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>small blood vessels that actually supply the tissue of the

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<v Speaker 2>aorta itself. Right, This airtitis leads to the physical dilation

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<v Speaker 2>of the aortic root, and as the root dilates, the

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<v Speaker 2>leaflets of the aortic valve are physically pulled apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Which means they can't close properly.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and that results in severe aortic regurgitation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so with every single heartbeat, a massive volume of

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<v Speaker 1>blood is being pumped out into the aorta. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it's immediately flowing backward into the left ventricle during diastol.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, so the left ventricle is now subjected to this

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<v Speaker 2>massive volume and pressure overload.

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<v Speaker 1>It's working overtime, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And over time to accommodate all that regurgitent volume. The

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<v Speaker 2>left ventricle undergoes severe eccentric hypertrophy and dilation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I see where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this massive stretching of the myocardial wall physically damages

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<v Speaker 2>the electrical conduction pathways that are embedded right within it. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>it stretches and disables the left bundle branch.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is your LBBB on the tracing exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>the structural collapse actually precedes the electrical collapse. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about the atrial fibrillation that was driving the taciccardia well.

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<v Speaker 2>As the left entricle fails and those n diastolic pressures rise,

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<v Speaker 2>that pressure just gets transmitted backward into the left atria.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the atrium dilates in response to all that stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>The structural architecture of the atrial muscle is disrupted and

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<v Speaker 2>it eventually just descends into fibrillation.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ECG displays this terrifying electrical storm, the rapid

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<v Speaker 2>irregular rate and the wide complexes. But the root cause

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a Spira sheet infection years prior that destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>the vascular plumbing, which then eventually destroyed the electrical wiring.

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<v Speaker 1>It just perfectly reinforces every single lesson Hampton tries to impart.

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<v Speaker 1>The squiggly lines in the ECG are merely the final

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<v Speaker 1>downstream symptom of a much larger, highly complex human narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the clinician really must act as a diagnostition of

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<v Speaker 2>the entire systemic state. You have to utilize the ECG

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<v Speaker 2>as just a single data point within a much broader

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<v Speaker 2>physiological context.

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<v Speaker 1>So synthesizing the depth of doctor Hampton's one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty problems to ECG, the mandate for clinical learners is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear, very clear. The ECG is an essential tool,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is totally subservient to the history and the

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<v Speaker 1>physical Normal variants must be deeply understood so you avoid

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<v Speaker 1>over diagnosis. Systemic causes like electrolytes and toxins have to

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<v Speaker 1>be confitted when the electrical system misbehaves, and above all,

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<v Speaker 1>you must respect the anatomical fragility of these conduction pathways.

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<v Speaker 1>Well summarized, thank you, and as promised for our medical

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<v Speaker 1>learners listening, we need to test the retention of these

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<v Speaker 1>core principles. So let's run a rapid fire clinical scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, listeners, put yourselves in the emergency department. You

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<v Speaker 2>are the attending physician. A fifty five year old patient

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<v Speaker 2>arrives with a highly concerning presentation. Okay, they describe the

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<v Speaker 2>sudden onset of heavy crushing, ischemic chest pain that radiates

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<v Speaker 2>to their left shoulder and jaw, and it's accompanied by

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<v Speaker 2>diaphoresis classic. The pain started exactly one hour ago. You

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<v Speaker 2>immediately order a resting twelve lead ECG. The tracing prints

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<v Speaker 2>out and it is completely normal, no st elevation, no

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<v Speaker 2>two wave inversion, pristine conduction based on the principles we've

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<v Speaker 2>discussed today, do you discharge this patient? Why or why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if I'm taking this test applying doctor Hampton's golden rule,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not, you do not discharge them. Correct Why Because

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<v Speaker 1>in those early hours of an acute a schemic event,

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<v Speaker 1>the myocardial cells are hypoxic and their ATP is depleting,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cellular injury hasn't yet caused a sufficient shift

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<v Speaker 1>in the transmembrane potential to actually alter the electrical vectors

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<v Speaker 1>on the ECG exactly. The paper looks normal purely because

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<v Speaker 1>the electrochemical gradients are lagging behind the physical tissue damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you hold the patient. You initiate your acute coronary

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome protocols, and you check those plasmatroponent levels to look

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<v Speaker 1>for biochemical evidence of myocardial necrosis.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a perfect application of clinical context overriding misleading

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<v Speaker 2>electrical data. Recognizing the limitations of the tool is honestly

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<v Speaker 2>just as important as knowing how to actually read the tracing.

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<v Speaker 1>Which leaves us with a really critical look forward for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone entering the medical field today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is something to really chew on. We are

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<v Speaker 2>rapidly entering an era where artificial intelligence is becoming deeply

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<v Speaker 2>integrated into diagnostic software.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And AI algorithms are already exceptionally proficient at reading these tracings.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they can identify a precarious bifisicular block or

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<v Speaker 2>subtle T wave changes in milliseconds with incredibly high accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's faster than we could ever be.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly so, if the machine can read the paper better

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<v Speaker 2>than we can, it shifts the fundamental role of the physician.

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<v Speaker 2>The true value of the future clinician won't be in

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<v Speaker 2>memorizing voltage criteria. You will lie entirely in the domain.

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<v Speaker 2>The machines simply cannot access the human clinical.

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<v Speaker 1>Context because AI doesn't see the patient right.

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<v Speaker 2>The AI can highlight the left axis deviation in a

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<v Speaker 2>split second, but only the physician can connect that finding

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<v Speaker 2>to the patient's aging physiology, their medication list, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>presenting symptoms to formulate a holistic, real world treatment plan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's profound.

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<v Speaker 2>The future of medicine demands that you treat the patient,

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<v Speaker 2>not just the print out.

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<v Speaker 1>The machine reads the lines, but you have to read

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<v Speaker 1>the life. Keep pushing beyond the paper. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on this deep dive, and we'll catch you next time.
