WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:02.279 Disclaimer. 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:04.440 We'd like to know before the start of this interview 3 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.919 that the opinions about to be expressed by the guest 4 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.839 of Tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of the 5 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:13.160 guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the views 6 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.000 of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:34.359 We're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 8 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:51.280 Hello below, Roofy, Welcome back, while the only one that 9 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.079 brings the fire house kitchen table to you guys, with 10 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.719 all our loyal fans in the chat. 11 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.679 We got Mike Radcavid, we got twenty truck, We've got 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.560 the Red Paul my Ber, we got Rob Procaccini, Missus 13 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.799 procaccini husband, Missus Procaccini's husband is don't forget the mister 14 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:19.079 Jose Jose Gabe and the lovely Polo. Right, oh, miss whatever. 15 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:20.480 What happened to from? 16 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:22.920 So this is the last show before Christmas? 17 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.719 Fellas, No, we have one Monday. 18 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:29.319 Oh this is not the last show. We got one? 19 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.680 What's Monday? What are we doing Monday? 20 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:32.599 Oh? 21 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.359 Chief Rice on from seventeen. 22 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.840 Oh right right, right, all right, yeah, you're right you. 23 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.000 We got a hot charge of tonight. 24 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:40.159 Bro. 25 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.840 He's never really seen any fun doesn't seen. 26 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:45.359 You'll get it. 27 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:53.879 Oh ship, don't you're going down its holy ship. He's 28 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:55.239 like a China. 29 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:56.439 I got it. 30 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.040 You didn't even have to be that. 31 00:01:58.879 --> 00:01:59.640 We have any who. 32 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.319 We got a hot jodge around tonight Brooklyn. Guys started 33 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:04.799 in Manhattan, then he went to Brooklyn. 34 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.800 You know, well worked. Did you guys run in with 35 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:10.680 guys hunt Tree? 36 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:13.439 I never heard they. 37 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:13.879 Run in with one. 38 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.520 I was still figure out what the company is. 39 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:18.159 Yeah. 40 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:20.159 I used to see him all the time. 41 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:22.840 Ah, so he was hipty as ship. He knew all 42 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:23.159 about you. 43 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.240 Yeah, you know, so they got like this. 44 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.280 Even back then with all the hate, we were like that. 45 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.319 Yes, that's Louis on top. 46 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.120 Mm hmm, there we go. What do you who? 47 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.919 Before we get to commercials, I gotta tell you I 48 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.400 watch all the time on YouTube. One of my biggest things. 49 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.599 I love guys who are doing personations. They see those 50 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.919 guys on TikTok, I love it. I had no idea 51 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:48.719 that Rob Procaccini does fucking impersonations. So I gotta actually 52 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.719 a picture. I have a video of him doing the 53 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:55.120 personation of of a fire siren. So John's pulling up. 54 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.840 Here's Rob Procaccini. 55 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.199 Atl siren, A supercoring no siren. 56 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:17.639 Where did you find that thing? 57 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:24.039 Brockie Katy said it to me, And there he is. 58 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.479 Bro He's like this some person that you see to 59 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:27.520 spin fall out of his mouth. 60 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:29.120 He was excited. 61 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:31.759 It's almost if we should do it again. It's almost 62 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:33.520 like it's almost like we should do. 63 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:35.919 It again, tornado siren, do one more time. 64 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.120 I got to help that guy out with his dental plan. 65 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:38.879 I don't know what's on. 66 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.479 Let me just make sure that's Brockie Jay very volley about. 67 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.199 Oh what the hell? Oh no, oh no, hold on, 68 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:51.879 hold on, here we go. 69 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:56.240 Okay, guys, let's do a tornado siren, a supercorin o siren. 70 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.599 Oh nice, I like it bad. 71 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.479 He's pretty spot on. I'm not gonna lie. That's I 72 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:14.800 think that's what close. 73 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:16.480 Siren. 74 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:17.639 If I have a solid bro. 75 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.480 Somebody in the chat that's from that area, verify that 76 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:19.759 for us. 77 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:24.160 Let us know that's Frankie, Frankie boy, it's frank Nice job, 78 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:25.360 nice job, frank. 79 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:30.199 He is artistic. But you know that's all good. Give 80 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.759 a little giving him, giving him some nice fame, right now, 81 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:33.279 that's what we do. 82 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:33.879 Give him up. 83 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:35.800 We get him on the show. I can get him 84 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:37.600 on the show to do the super Tornado siren. 85 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:39.879 He would, he would be honest. I'm sure. 86 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.480 All right, let's get to the commercials quick. It's the 87 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.519 captain's waiting around. 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So if you want functional gear, 148 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:26.079 a retro plaster hook, or your helmet serviced by a 149 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:30.279 company that is tried and true, choose Capital City Industries, 150 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.480 by Fireman for firemen. 151 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:35.480 There you go. 152 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.720 And you know, Audits a Shapiro family, bro, it's a 153 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.279 family run business. We love those guys. And me and 154 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:41.919 Louis were next to him in the booth and watching 155 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.799 them do the helmet thing. It's frecking amazing, Bro. They 156 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.840 will take any helmet and retro fitted for your dome. 157 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:52.000 I didn't know your cousin. Is that a relative of 158 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:59.080 your as the artist Sukolotski? I mean you pick that up, 159 00:08:59.080 --> 00:08:59.399 didn't you? 160 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:00.519 Uh? 161 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.879 Yeah? You see god, this trace? He didn't pick that 162 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.200 up right away? 163 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.320 A well known artist Slatsky Wow Gonzo. 164 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.440 And his brother Hal how'd you like a kick? 165 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.360 All right, enough of the again, let's get into captain 166 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:17.120 you already. 167 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.159 Let's go all right, coming to the state, our good friend, 168 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:25.200 Captain Larry Tompkins. 169 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.120 Give the old baseball one. 170 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:32.840 What's up kids? 171 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.480 Captain going, guys, you're still here after you saw that 172 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:37.080 siren bit. 173 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:41.399 That's pretty good. I like to have his head on 174 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.000 the front of a rig the way. 175 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.159 I have a bunch of his stuff, so I'll send 176 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:49.279 some more to you. 177 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:50.759 You gotta have him on the show, Frankie. 178 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.120 All right, but let's get patriarch before we dive into 179 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:55.600 uh the captain's career. 180 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:57.200 Yes, sir, here we go. 181 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:04.120 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 182 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:08.679 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 183 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.759 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 184 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:29.559 Yes, Hi, Cindy Drake, see you in the chat. 185 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:32.919 All right, cap welcome to the show. 186 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:34.879 To Merry Christmas, guys. 187 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.759 Merry Christmas to you as well. The cheese I told 188 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.440 you the cheese Man would be in there. He's called 189 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:42.600 what does the shove mean? 190 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:50.720 And if I didn't have a good comeback, I'd push it. 191 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:51.519 There you go. 192 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.840 You can't shove the cheese to farnt move when he 193 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:02.320 was Yeah, he's the immobile, is a brassler box up, 194 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:03.759 but yet he's still a beautician. 195 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:04.519 He cuts hair. 196 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.919 Remember he's not a barber. 197 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.799 No, no, no, no, Captain. Let's dive into the early 198 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.200 years of Captain Tompkins. Where'd you grow up? Tell us 199 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.080 a little about the family life. Hey, you got involved 200 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:15.879 in the fight Apartment? 201 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.679 Well, I had no I had no family on the 202 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.919 fight Apartment was. It was something that I have no 203 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.799 idea why, but I always wanted to do. I always 204 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.799 talked about I read Dennis Smith's book. My brother had it, 205 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.480 and I read that book as a young kid. It 206 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.240 was just something I talked about doing. But I was 207 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.879 a knucklehead when I was young. I was just want 208 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:35.720 the fine knucklehead. 209 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.399 I'll let you know if you were bigger knucklehead than me, 210 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.279 I haven't been arrested all. 211 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.600 Luckily I was. I was. I was a smart knucklehead. 212 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:49.840 I was able to evade the authorities. 213 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:50.960 Nice right. 214 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:52.240 Where'd you grow up? 215 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.279 I grew up in merrick Long Island and then uh 216 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:57.440 and then when I was thirteen, we moved up state 217 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:57.879 New York. 218 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:00.039 Oh by Louis. 219 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.759 No, but by Albany, up by Albany. 220 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:03.960 All. 221 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.559 Yeah. My father was in the FBI and he retired. 222 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.559 He had to retire because of age at that time, 223 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:14.080 and so he transferred out of New York before he 224 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.080 retired up there because they paid for you to move 225 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.799 if you did it. But what he do in the FBI, 226 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.120 he was an agent for thirty years. 227 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.000 Come on, he was a g man. 228 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:28.600 As a matter of fact, he worked with Patty Brown's father. 229 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.440 He was friends with And I met Patty Brown before 230 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.720 I before I got on the job. I was on 231 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.720 the list to get on and this girl we both 232 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:40.080 knew introduced me to him and he took me to 233 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.279 my first fire house. But I didn't know until years 234 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.080 later that uh we friends. 235 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.799 Yeah, really, you didn't know that Patty Brown was a 236 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:48.879 superhero at the time. 237 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.440 I didn't know. I mean I got to know, you know, obviously, 238 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:53.720 I got to see after. 239 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.399 Wow, how come did you did you feel like you 240 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:57.879 wanted to go to the FBI when. 241 00:12:57.799 --> 00:12:58.360 You were a kid? 242 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.600 No, no, I don't know why. I mean, I think 243 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.519 that Dennis Smith book, and even before that, it was 244 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.440 like little kids talk about it. And I tell you what, 245 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.720 I shouldn't say this on the internet, but I, uh, 246 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:14.240 I remember having a dream of carrying this girl out 247 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.799 of a burning built building one time, this girl I liked, and. 248 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:21.759 Oh, my hero. 249 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:24.000 Boo boo. 250 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.000 I want to be a fireman. 251 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:35.279 I want to do but yeah. And then actually a 252 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.679 friend of mine whose brother was on the job. I 253 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.159 was bouncing around doing crazy shit and I was wound 254 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.720 up driving a truck out in California. And uh, a 255 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.639 friend of mine in New York, one of my best friends, said, listen, 256 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.559 I signed you up for the test. You gotta come back. 257 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:50.440 Come on. 258 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.039 I didn't always the way ruffy his brother. His brother 259 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.000 was on his brother was a great fireman out of 260 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.919 one thirteen Mark Connaway. But signed me up for. 261 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.879 The Dude, that's pretty crazy. I never heard that before. 262 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:03.799 Signed you up. 263 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.080 Yeah, I signed up for the test. You got to 264 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:06.480 come back. 265 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.879 And he wasn't dreaming of picking any chicks up in 266 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.559 a truck. 267 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.159 On what kind of truck it was. 268 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.879 I don't know that true. Okay, I take that. 269 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:21.120 The guy signed you up. 270 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:24.519 You're in California, Yeah, yeah, and you fly back just 271 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:25.600 to take the test. 272 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.039 I did it so the only Yeah, I came back 273 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.879 to take the test, and uh, they got drunk the 274 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.759 whole weekend and passed the test, and then and then 275 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.200 the physical and then there was a delay with the physical. 276 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.120 You remember Louis right. A couple of guys died. 277 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.600 Yeah, the one guy died doing the physical and they 278 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:42.120 delayed it. 279 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:46.639 Yeah, so there was a big delay. And then did 280 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:49.519 you fly back to California? No, I stayed. I came 281 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:51.679 and I boughtended in New York. I got, I got 282 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.320 an apartment and bartended in New York. 283 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.639 You live in the Vita Loca bartender in New York. 284 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:01.440 You live pla macha an Irish ball. 285 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:07.159 What a shot right around the block for my for 286 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.919 my first fire house still by seven? Yeah, get that though. 287 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.159 All right, so you take the test and you get 288 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.759 called in let's see ninety. 289 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.279 Yeah, I came back in eighties right after I took 290 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.000 the test, and I came back and then I bartended, And. 291 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.200 Uh, how long did you wait before you got called 292 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:26.879 when you took the test? 293 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.240 Three years? But I was in the second class off 294 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.919 the list. But it took three years because of the delays. 295 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.879 Right, but living the life, you know, doing whatever you're doing, 296 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.320 you know what I'm saying, as a bartender living in Manhattan. 297 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:42.759 Yeah, oh yeah. 298 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:44.879 And the job calls you, who's in your proby class? 299 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:46.120 Anybody that we might know? 300 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:49.320 Yeah, well, it was the second class there the front 301 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.360 they did one hundred, and then in our class they 302 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.919 did three hundred, but it was split into like an 303 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:54.519 A and B. 304 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:55.879 Right, we had that too. 305 00:15:55.919 --> 00:16:00.240 Brillian Lately. It was a William Flaherty, Jimmy Ellison, Billy. 306 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:05.720 Robert Fiery Ellison, Liam Liam. 307 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.960 Class bro was Pickford in that class too. 308 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.120 Pick No, Pickford came a year or so, a year after, 309 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:13.440 I think a year after. 310 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.120 So you had Flowery Ellis. 311 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.080 Charlie, a guy that came in that class. 312 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.960 Who's that Arngia to ninety Johnny Argia? 313 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.720 It could have been man. I think he was in ninety. 314 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.480 Yeah, I think he was in ninety. 315 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.159 But uh yeah, it was good. It was you know, 316 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:33.919 it was a good class. I knew nothing. 317 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:36.200 Oh my god. 318 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.440 That's Mike Sullivan. He went to one seventy. 319 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.000 Oh my god, I remember him. He was there forever, 320 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:42.759 that guy too. 321 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.240 Right, Yeah, he was. He retired out of there. 322 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.679 Yeah, he was there forever. I remember his face. 323 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.919 Yeah. He I remember in probably school, like going through 324 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.600 the mass confidence and I'd never done anything. I wasn't 325 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:01.120 a volley and nothing, and he like watching watching some 326 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.720 guys go through, I'm like, shit, how do they know 327 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:05.480 how to do this man and some of whom had 328 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.359 been you know, they never mentioned it obviously. 329 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:14.160 It was all where's that other picture us? 330 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:15.839 Who is it? Steve Elliott? 331 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.319 Oh there's another guy Russey, you know, Rusty from two 332 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:23.279 fifty seven Louis Probably he was a senior guy in 333 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:23.680 the engine. 334 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:25.640 Oh yes, I do know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember 335 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:29.480 him too. Who is this young this young fella? And 336 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:30.440 I don't mean you. 337 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.119 It's my nephew is now in his mid thirties. 338 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:35.240 Nice on a job. 339 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:37.960 No, no, you know, I I at one point he's 340 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.559 upstate New York. He's working for the state up there 341 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.200 in albody. But he uh, I almost got him, and 342 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.240 he's and my sister in law put a knick to it, 343 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:48.519 tish on it. 344 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.079 Yeah, Larry, how old were you when you got on? 345 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:57.920 Uh, nineteen ninety. I was twenty eight, twenty eight, that's 346 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.920 like me. I got it later too, I was older. 347 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.839 A lot of guys was, some guys you know, like, uh, 348 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.440 they were very young. They were like twenty one or something. 349 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.720 Yeah, my brother just turned twenty one the month before. 350 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.839 Like, oh, I wish I wish I'd done an early attest. 351 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:18.799 So you get into Proby School and then you get assigned, 352 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:20.480 you got to go to Proby School. 353 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.119 Stories before he moved out to Provy School. 354 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.680 No, no, nothing, nothing really spent. Well, there was one guy, yeah, 355 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.440 one guy there. One of the instructors, Don Glennon, was 356 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.599 a one twenty guy, and he was the most to me. 357 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.079 He was the most like influential instructor I had there. 358 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.480 And I always remember that's the first I started to 359 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.200 hear about that company. And then, like there were other 360 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.200 times in my career that I and I wound up 361 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:47.039 getting there eventually, but that's the first I was impressed 362 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.599 with him. He was a like squared away guy and just. 363 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:52.599 So that planted the seed of one twenty ag. 364 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.279 Yeah, and then then there were other seeds planted. But 365 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.359 when I got to seven Truck I was very lucky. 366 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:01.240 That was a great firehouse, seven sixteen and the day 367 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:03.799 the day went with my cake. When you get the assignment, 368 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.519 I go there and they get a run and you know, 369 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:08.519 they say hop on the rig and it's a job. 370 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:13.079 And it's at twenty third Street and Broadway, which is 371 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.680 where they had the twenty third Street fire. Oh shit, 372 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.039 the twelve FIM. There was a job it's no longer 373 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.039 the same building. It's a new building. But there was 374 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.680 a job. It was weird. There was a job in 375 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.240 that building that day. And then after did you. 376 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.279 Know at the time or they told you afterwards? 377 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.599 You know, they came out, they showed me a play afterwards, 378 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:31.319 they showed me to. 379 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:32.160 Show you a plaque. 380 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:38.480 N right, So but I went there. Who else James Hurley, 381 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.440 a guy who did like thirty three years there went 382 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.079 He just retired last year. And Steve Marsso is a 383 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.759 chief now who also went with me at the same time. 384 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:50.720 But I'll firehouse. 385 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:52.559 How long it take you to catch your first job 386 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:53.359 when you got there? 387 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.839 I don't remember how long. I remember my one of 388 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.359 my first jobs that was really like a job job. 389 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:01.119 And what was it? 390 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:03.920 And I remember it was there were a lot of 391 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.599 s ros at the time in that area. And uh, 392 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:08.960 the Manhattan was different. It wasn't the way you know, 393 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:13.200 it wasn't the realest, It wasn't May yet in the 394 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.000 real estate. 395 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:15.160 Wasn't Disney World. 396 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.759 Yeah, and then uh, there a lot of s ros 397 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.920 and we used to get the regular amount of work 398 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.279 was usually a s ros kent the ken Moore elt 399 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.559 in these and My first job was in one of them, 400 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:32.319 and I remember going down the hall and it was 401 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:35.440 like a wall of smoke, and we stopped to put 402 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:38.000 on masks on, and I thought, what the fuck am 403 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:38.759 I doing here? 404 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:41.559 It is that at one time you do it, the 405 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:43.319 first time you do that, it is that what the 406 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:44.440 hell is going on? 407 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.160 This is for real? Like this is really for real, right, yeah? 408 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:48.839 And I said to I said, well, if I get 409 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:50.880 out of here, that means this whole thing's over. So 410 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.559 I guess I gotta go. And then I went, and 411 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.720 then it's you know, I did what I had to do, 412 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.960 and then I was all juiced up and I was excited. 413 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:00.559 And you know, you get the first just one under 414 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:00.960 the belt. 415 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:03.119 Yeah, you know, I remember. 416 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.279 I remember in ninety three I got on. I was 417 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.680 the first class in ninety three, and we were probably 418 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:10.720 our numbers were probably too far apart, but they were 419 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.599 only making one hundred a year or whatever the heck 420 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:14.200 they were doing at the time, two hundred a year. 421 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:19.480 But I remember them talking about the new technology that 422 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.720 was coming out, which was the thermal pain windows. Right, 423 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.200 you might start seeing more thermal pain windows. Do you 424 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.440 remember when you worked at like early on in the 425 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.680 nineties that you had regular windows a lot of times. 426 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.799 Do you remember there were definitely some tenements it was 427 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.599 You know that that area around seven Truck has a 428 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:38.960 real mix of occupancies. They have everything from the high 429 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:44.279 rise in one section, high rise, residential, commercial tenements, brownstones, 430 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:50.920 just regular occupancies, commercial occupancies. Yeah, there were in some 431 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.279 of those older buildings that was pretty good though, right 432 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:56.480 they would break. I mean. 433 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.519 I remember guys talking about it, like most of the 434 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.279 when I got to I was at once eventeen. When 435 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:04.960 I got there, I would say probably like half the 436 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.160 three corners already had those the thermal panes, right, So, 437 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.160 but every time I would take one of those other windows, 438 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.759 I would hit it so hard that I would almost 439 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.039 lose the tool or the can because you were trying 440 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.480 to hit it so hard, and meanwhile there was nothing there, 441 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:20.079 you know what I mean. 442 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.440 You already lost the can when Patty threw it down 443 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:22.960 the hallways. 444 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.559 Live up your toolry, don't give up your tools. 445 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:34.039 Yeah, right away, bro, my can's here somewhere exactly. 446 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.359 So you had any fires that stand out in your 447 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:38.200 mind that you went to. 448 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.119 Yeah, I mean, like I'm not the best, and there 449 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:43.920 were a lot there were the first three years or 450 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:47.400 so before things started changing a little quickly in Manhattan. 451 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:50.240 There was there were some good fires because you know 452 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.880 what happened you mentioned Disney World. Literally that was the 453 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:57.880 time when all those buildings there were numerous multiples over 454 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:01.480 by forty second Street because there were I don't know 455 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.480 who was burning, you know, all of a sudden, all 456 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.119 these places were burning down right before the world came in. 457 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:07.720 Yeah. 458 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.720 Uh, but so there were a bunch of multiples over there, 459 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.960 and I and I had Yeah, there was some good 460 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:15.880 you know, sub basement fires and something. 461 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:21.839 Whoa, whoa, whoa wait, whoa those sub sellers look for Louie. 462 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.759 They were good. They were good fighting in that fire house, 463 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.440 very good. You know. They weren't like Buffy types, and 464 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.160 they were they you know, when there's something was happening, 465 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:30.799 they were good. 466 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.400 A lot of senior guys did when you went there. 467 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.039 Were like this guy Eddie McCaffrey was a tough guy. 468 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.200 He wound up. He did twenty something years there and 469 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:42.240 then he went to uh forty nine Truckers of Lieutenant. 470 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.680 He stayed there almost another twenty years. But a tough Vietnam. 471 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.960 That guy Don Carcone and the engine. H a lot 472 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.200 of a lot of mid level guys that were about 473 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.960 my age or maybe a little bit older, but they 474 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.920 got on younger. Mike d is that guy that's still 475 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:01.319 on great fly Himan, he's up in the Bronx had cotton. Uh, 476 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.880 Like I said, James Hurley with me, Joe Deserto, the 477 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:09.720 guys in the engine, Tommy Gernon, John Pass already great fireman. 478 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:14.119 A tremendous respect for these guys. And if I was, ah, 479 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.839 if those guys were working, I'd say, like I put 480 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.680 them up against you know, any any of it took 481 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.119 It took a longer time to get because there was 482 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.559 so many different occupant seas and you didn't any amount 483 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:28.519 of fire. It's like a ghetto. So it took a 484 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:32.920 long time too, you know, to learn that get And 485 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:37.920 I'll just say one one fire that that my first 486 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.119 year that stands out was we had a for your 487 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.799 first year and seven they didn't let you uh you know, 488 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.799 you had to stay on the inside team and uh. 489 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.200 But then this one night, six months seven and I 490 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.119 was reading back then, they you know, reading howel that 491 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.200 is that as three and all that stuff, and but 492 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.480 now we're six months into it. I'm sorry, team, I 493 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.759 kind of drifted a little bit from doing the reading. 494 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:04.680 And then all of a sudden, one night we got 495 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:10.000 two details and the chauffeur is a young chaulfur two 496 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.400 three years on the job. Very rare. 497 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:15.279 Murphy's showing up here. I could see. 498 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:20.160 We get it. And then three o'clock in the morning, boom, 499 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.680 we get a job. And it's on thirty sixth Street 500 00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:28.359 between Second and Third Avenue, and it was two three 501 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:32.839 story buildings like tenements, and they would connect, but they 502 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.000 looked like and with the doors on the left side 503 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.240 of each one. But there was a common wall balcony 504 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.079 metal that looked like a fire escape between them. So 505 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:45.359 it looks night when you come up. It looks like 506 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.599 one one occupancy, and there's a tree right in front 507 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.359 of the building, and the first floor it's actually blown out. 508 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.279 The I didn't realize. It was the front door and 509 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.480 two windows on the left side, which was a separate building. 510 00:25:57.559 --> 00:25:59.720 But and then this other door looks like it's in 511 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.839 the center of the building, but it's actually on the 512 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:07.000 left side of the exposure building. So I'm in the 513 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.000 there's no area there, so I got to take the 514 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.359 bucket to the roof. I get up to the roof 515 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.400 and I go, I'm stepping over a small parapet like 516 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.799 a foot tall, and uh, and I got it's a 517 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.960 very old building. And I go and it's a scuttle. 518 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.599 So I opened the scuttle. But I opened the scuttle 519 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:28.279 of the adjoining building. And then I searched the perimeter. 520 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.240 And then I get back and there's no fire escapes 521 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.400 going to the roof because it's just common balconies. And 522 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.000 so then I finally realized, I open up the other thing. 523 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:41.519 But it's still my clicking. This is two buildings. I 524 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:43.559 opened up the other skull because it was smoke in 525 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:48.200 both buildings, right, And then I come around. Finally I 526 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.519 gotta go down back. Then they used to do the 527 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:55.119 roofman would go down searching. So I came down to 528 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.319 the top floor and the trees on fire. It's still craziness, 529 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.559 and I into the with the bucket. I smashed into 530 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.799 the balcony and for a year you could see the 531 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:11.039 balcony was like. But I still made you know, I'm 532 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.960 not proud of this because I had like six or 533 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.839 seven months on. I still made a mistake. I went 534 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.559 in the other building, which was smoke. I went in 535 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.279 that window first, and then I came out and I 536 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:24.000 think it's finally hitting me, and I go in to 537 00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.599 the other I take an air condition around. I go 538 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.359 on the other side and it's bank down up there, 539 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.680 and then rescue gives a ten forty five in that. 540 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.480 I know, I know, it's like I was like in 541 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:42.240 the next room over. But but I what I learned 542 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.880 from that, you know, stuck with me for the rest 543 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.200 of my career, which was like, you know, I that 544 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.640 it hit me that how come I didn't fucking notice 545 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.680 all this stuff right in front of my eyes. I 546 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.079 was stepping over a small parapet. I opened two scuttles, 547 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.920 you know, I realized there was no ladder between the 548 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.000 the It was a and balcony. It wasn't a fire escape, 549 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:03.240 even though it looks like. 550 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.119 A fire Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 551 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.119 But it stuck with me like about that. And I 552 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.160 remember one of these senior guys, ed, the senior guy, 553 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.279 Eddie McCaffrey, said to me, he said, Larry, you know 554 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.400 how he become an experienced fireman. 555 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:20.559 By going to Yeah, exactly with six months on the job. 556 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.319 Seven months on the job, I mean as long as 557 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:23.799 you learned from it, right, I mean, like. 558 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.440 You said, kept the whole goddamn career. 559 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.720 Yeah, she survived. It turned out her husband came walking 560 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.440 back in the middle of fire with a little kid 561 00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.119 that I think he lit the place. It was like 562 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:39.640 a stairwell, a stairwell fire. But yeah, that one sticks out, 563 00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.880 and then there were just and then just you know, 564 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.400 there was other stuff. I'm sure I forgot, but there 565 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.000 was one that stuck out two weeks before the First 566 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.839 Trade Center. It was on Super Bowl Sunday, and we 567 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.960 never got jobs you know, class class ease in Manhattan, 568 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:57.079 you know what they are, the you know, the automatical, 569 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.599 And we didn't get him too big because we were 570 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.119 a little bit out of it. We get them one 571 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.720 every three months, we get it. But that Super Bowl Sunday, 572 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.200 as soon as the game ended, boom, we get alarm 573 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:14.559 and we go in. We're second do to two truck 574 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.440 on forty eighth in Park and it was a high 575 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.839 rise and the first fifteen stories of the high rise 576 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.839 was one building and then it's separated into two towers, 577 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.559 you know, like forty stories, fifty stories something crazy. But 578 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.400 we get there and it's blowing out four high rise 579 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.319 windows out of a commercial thing on the seventh floor. Yeah, 580 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.559 and two truck. Captain Ill who died in the trade 581 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.559 center was a tough, tough fireman. They were in a 582 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.880 fire tower coming at it, and they couldn't get into 583 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:48.440 the hallway at all, because as soon as they opened 584 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.119 the door, the fire just came right at them. They 585 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.680 couldn't get in. And we went up and we got 586 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.119 on the seventh floor from the other end, and eventually 587 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.279 it just kept getting worse and worse there, and we 588 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.279 got we had sixty five engine with us, and we 589 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.680 got to uh, we got to this door to like 590 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.000 the lobby, and as soon as they opened the door, 591 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.519 it was now bank down to the floor everywhere, and 592 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.359 it was hot as ship. And as soon as they 593 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.880 opened the door, it's almost like right in front of 594 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.400 us was the officer from sixty five who was a 595 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.039 one to twenty guy, Captain Savage. He gets it's almost 596 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.160 like somebody kicked him in the head. He like lifted 597 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.000 off his feet from the heat and got knocked down. Wow, 598 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.799 And and they couldn't It was getting guys are getting 599 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:30.799 The two guys on the line were getting burned without 600 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.720 even seeing any fire. It was so fucking hot. And 601 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:38.000 then then they just they called us down there. Luckily 602 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.680 he was on the seventh floor they were able to get. 603 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.200 I think it wound up going out like twenty two 604 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.240 windows and. 605 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.000 We did do we didn't do we didn't do so 606 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:46.480 good there. 607 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:51.920 No. I think somebody from rescue, say, uh, grabbed the 608 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.279 guy from twenty four truck that got turned around in 609 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:55.759 the lobby on the floor above. 610 00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.400 Hank is saying that he was at the job. Coobs, 611 00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.160 you're you're muted. 612 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.079 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was in rescue one at the time. 613 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.640 Brew Snowberry, I think, yeah, it was a bit it was. 614 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:07.559 And also it was one of those ones where the 615 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.559 you know, they had the h that whole thing when 616 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.000 you read when you're studying about the HVAC shutting on 617 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:17.039 the fans and uh, and they they did that in 618 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.880 the in the stairwell. When we first went in, it 619 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.799 sounded like an airplane in the stairwell going up. It 620 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.200 was pressurized. They pressurized it and then they shut it down. 621 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:28.319 So when we got back out, we're all ran out 622 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.359 of air and we're coming back down and you had 623 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.319 to go down like four flights just to get out 624 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.960 of the smoke, and the two guys five engine, the 625 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.240 two guys on the line jumped in. They ran out 626 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.319 of it. They jumped in a closet. Had to go 627 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:41.519 back up and get them. 628 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.160 But I had the wind up putting the fire. 629 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.039 Up the the UH seven truck, and I think another 630 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.920 towel out of got it from the outside because it 631 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:50.880 was on the seventh floor. 632 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:52.920 Wow. 633 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.759 But then two weeks later the first trade sent happens. 634 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.359 So that was ninety three Super Bowl Sunday ninety three, 635 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.079 and I think it's about two weeks later the first 636 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.440 trade cent it happened working just you know, that just 637 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.279 went in too. Well, were you working for the first 638 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.400 trade I was. I wasn't working. No seven truck went down. 639 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.000 They walked all the way up to the roof and 640 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.480 took down some kids from the roof a class, some 641 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.160 kindergarten class or something. But now I wasn't working that day. 642 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.519 I know it could have been picked for he can't 643 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:27.400 walk that high, bro. 644 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.920 He might it might have been he might have been working. 645 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.920 Yeah, gotta throw the bus whatever. 646 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.119 Pickford was a good man. He was into it from 647 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:36.839 the Yeah. 648 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:42.920 I drove him all the time. Pickford funny motherfucker. 649 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.960 Tongue on the job. I think one of them he's quick. Yeah, 650 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.920 he will cut you. You don't even know your cut 651 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:48.559 and bleeding. 652 00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.400 How was that kitchen table that was a tough That 653 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.039 was a tough kitchen He'll tell you that was a 654 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.960 tough kitchen table. There were guys they were like, they 655 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.160 were like Muhammad Ali with the mouth there. I I 656 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.000 flew under the radar. I was old enough to like, 657 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.880 you know, just and I would take I take some hits, 658 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.119 and I take them good. You got to make the 659 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.200 hits and then then it's okay if you react badly 660 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:15.759 to the hits. 661 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.000 Yeah, it's like a gazelle and. 662 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:20.920 Don't plow on the rabbit. You're done. 663 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.759 It's like ten lions looking at the gazelle and has 664 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.880 a little blood coming out off his body. 665 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.000 And they took the first captain there, the guy's captain, O'Shaughnessy. 666 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.680 The guy was like, he's always talking about how good 667 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.319 his gas mileage was on his car coming into work. 668 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.559 So the guys they would and they were adding gas 669 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:46.440 to his car. And then they started to do the opposite. 670 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.680 Oh my god, I freaking love it. 671 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:51.119 Brothers. 672 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:55.559 That's freak. That's great. That's no. 673 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.319 It was a great fire. It was a great fight. 674 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.559 Still has a great firehouse there. 675 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.839 For eight years, right, you spent Yeah, and then and 676 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.559 then we had I had great offices. 677 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:14.440 Vinnie Fowler was there, uh, Kazlowski, George Vallabona, and then 678 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.039 we got eventually we got Jim Manahan one twenty guy 679 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.360 and al Hey, both one twenty guys. Al Hey took 680 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.519 who they both became staff chiefs. They that al Hay 681 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.639 had the engine and Manahan had the truck. And when 682 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.559 they came it really they were good buddies. It really. 683 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.719 It was good for the house. It's good for the house. 684 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.760 A lot of Yeah, you had Vallabona. There was he 685 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:37.840 the guy from rescue too. 686 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.480 No, no, no, he was Uh he was an eighteen 687 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.079 truck guy, a big guy, good, very good officer. They're 688 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.400 all good there. They're all good and good, a good house. 689 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.400 And you know they still that that first week I 690 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.760 went there, like and every October they still celebrated. They 691 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.679 didn't celebrate, but they had a memorial mass for the 692 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.159 twenty third Street fire. One of the guy's sons worked there, 693 00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.559 Joe Finley worked there. His father was a lieutenant in seven. 694 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.239 Uh that day, I mean that was a that was 695 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.360 that was a terrible fire. You know, twelve guys lost. Yeah, 696 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.960 but uh no, that was a great place. And then 697 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.960 I was looking to maybe go to it started to 698 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:26.000 the Manhattan was changing and it was getting slower, and 699 00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.320 I was becoming more senior, and I admittedly I got 700 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.599 a little you know, the younger guys are doing this stuff, 701 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.159 and I got a little lazier. I could feel myself 702 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.440 getting lazy, and I thought about going to a truck 703 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.840 in Brooklyn, and I started to learn more about the job. 704 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.440 I'm a slow learner, so it took me. But uh 705 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.760 that was almost impossible back then. It seemed to get 706 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.960 to a busy truck over there. Then the squad thing 707 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.840 came up, and so I decided to go for that. 708 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.679 So what you just didn't that on your own? Did 709 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.679 you talk to any of the captains prior or how 710 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:58.280 did that work? 711 00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:58.599 No? 712 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.360 I did. My Mike off Checked, who wound up being 713 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.440 a fifty five truck guy and then he was in 714 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.239 the Union, really good guy. He was on the football team. 715 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.480 He was always school with Mikey's off check. 716 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.960 Yeah, yeah, he he was. He had been in two 717 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.599 fifty two and he told me, you know, you should 718 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.639 try to go over there, and he decided not to 719 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:19.880 do it. He went back, he went to fifty five truck. 720 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.719 But uh so, yeah, I did talk to the captain 721 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.480 and I went over there, and I was it was 722 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.840 a great It was a great you know, that was 723 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.719 a great time. You guys did it too. I mean, 724 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.360 you know, you trained with every buddy and a lot 725 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.679 of you know, I was only there for less than 726 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.440 four years, and it seemed like a lot of stuff 727 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.719 happened in that time. As soon as we got there. 728 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.280 You guys know, I didn't work that night, but Atlantic, 729 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.559 the Atlantic City, I mean Atlantic Avenue. 730 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.000 Atlantic Avenue fire Right. We were talking in the pre 731 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.280 show with Too eighty eight. You guys went as an engine, 732 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.519 but I think you guys operated as a squad, right 733 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:55.800 or did you operate a squad? 734 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.760 They were pulling out, they were pulling out guys. 735 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.920 Yeah, And we got relocated to three thirty two that night, 736 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.559 so we we were listening to everything the whole time. 737 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:06.199 I mean, we ended up staying there the whole time. 738 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:11.719 But yeah, yeah, no, that was that was then. There 739 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.280 was there was other starret City a year later and 740 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.480 I was at that one and uh, and somebody was 741 00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.679 just saying, it's the anniversary had just passed. 742 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.880 The Yeah, it just passed. Yeah, yes, exactly. 743 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.000 Yeah. There was a lot of a lot of stuff 744 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.840 I learned over there. There were a lot of row frames, 745 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.239 which were you guys dealt with some of that too, 746 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.559 right in two eighty eight, which I which is a 747 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.480 different kind of fire and and uh. 748 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.519 Some of my best row frames was when I was 749 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.199 at two eighty eight and you guys were first two 750 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.800 over there, and we came over there, you know, I 751 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:43.800 came there with quickly. A few times it would, you know, 752 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.599 be three or four of them going. It was like 753 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.480 it was great every time. 754 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.920 Good. The companies were very good at that over there, 755 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:54.079 you know, I mean getting ahead of it and fighting them. 756 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.320 But how was it? 757 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.280 How was it over there? Because by us, like I mean, 758 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.840 you guys in two fifty two, you're engine two fifty two. 759 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.039 Now you squad two fifty two, but you're running with 760 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.639 companies like one eleven, you know, I. 761 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.239 Mean, yeah, there was a little oh yeah, yeah, there was. 762 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.760 There was a little like they're looking at I'm sure 763 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.239 they're looking at us, but what was good. Is so 764 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.559 many guys stayed in that company and they knew the guys, 765 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.079 you know, and there was some you know, Tommy Kvecas, 766 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.280 who had been a one seventy five fiveman for twenty 767 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.280 years was there and he was a great, a great, 768 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:33.280 great fireman. And there was guys that had respect there. 769 00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.639 So uh and we when we were an engine, we 770 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.159 were an engine. They were very Richie Sweeney, the senior 771 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.159 guys were very much like, you know, we do what 772 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.719 we're supposed to do. You know, we're not playing games here. 773 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.440 And also when we went as a squad, I mean, 774 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.440 you develop, you know, it's a learning curve. But when 775 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.599 you went, you didn't. You know, if guys have pulled, 776 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:56.039 you don't squeeze yourself into a room when guys are 777 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.440 taking care of business. It's just gets stupid if you 778 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.599 do that, right, We didn't. We didn't. We try not 779 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.639 to do. I'm sure there's there were some bumps along 780 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.840 the way, but but it went pretty well. It went 781 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.000 pretty well. And then there was when there's a fire. 782 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.400 You guys know, when there's a fire big enough, you know, 783 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:13.599 they welcome to help. 784 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.280 Me for everybody. 785 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:19.440 Yeah, but I think there's a period where we had 786 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.719 to find where we belonged. You know what I mean, 787 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.760 Like when you first show up as a squad, number one, 788 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.079 they don't know what to do with you, and number two, 789 00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.480 you're so new that you don't really know what to do, 790 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.159 you know. So it was a long period before we 791 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:33.719 found where we were supposed to be. 792 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.440 I think, yeah, exactly, That's that's what it was like 793 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.880 for us over there. And then there was some you know, 794 00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.280 I had never been in an engine, so I got 795 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.519 I got lucky enough. I got a bunch of nonzo 796 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.280 jobs over there, which was exciting. And I'll tell you, 797 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.280 I also gave me a respect for the engine because 798 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.639 I realized, I it's not just so I just assumed 799 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.800 like you didn't have to learn anything. You just had 800 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.760 to tump on the rocky, I know. 801 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.679 I mean, it's it's pretty close to that though. I'm 802 00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:04.599 just saying I'm gonna say. 803 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.880 I'll just say it. 804 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.079 So you see that there's guys that are better at it. 805 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.920 There's like techniques and stuff they do, you know, to 806 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.079 keep that line moving. So yeah, that was a lot. 807 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.679 That was a lot of fun. And then. 808 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:20.719 Little hidden gem over there two fifty two too, because 809 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.599 you know, on paper there was the engine, but they 810 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:25.400 do they do first do work over there, man. 811 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.920 Yeah, they had a very small first do area. That's 812 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.960 because Brooklyn had so many engines. Yeah, in that way, 813 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.599 but there was a good area for fire so yep. 814 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.280 I mean we really didn't see much first do work. 815 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.960 Caught a little bit of here and there, but not 816 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:40.719 like I mean, you guys were in a perfect place 817 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.639 to seventy was in a perfect place first do work. 818 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.000 Yeah, I'd say that's where more of the competition was. 819 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.880 Was like you had you learn in that Brooklyn thing. 820 00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.920 You had to get out the door and move quick man. 821 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.039 You had to get respond quickly to make sure because 822 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.760 there was another engine close by. 823 00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.480 Yeah, who did you who did you get close to? Like, uh, well, 824 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.320 when you when you first got there, who was somebody? 825 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.920 Uh well, the whole you know what I got along. 826 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.480 I really liked that it was different because you got 827 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.679 to know everybody quicker because it wasn't a double house, 828 00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.280 you know, right. Uh But I became really good friends 829 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.840 with Tommy Covecas and uh but but almost all of them, 830 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.760 John d Filippo, John Fihn, Kevin. I loved there was 831 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.000 nobody I I really didn't have problems with anybody in 832 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.719 that house. I really loved and had Pete Martin as 833 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.360 a lieutenant. Legendary guy over there. 834 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.039 Man, yeahs was good too, maybe. 835 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:44.719 Was the best, Yes, him along with U. I've had 836 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.800 great captains him Calamari. I mean I think of those guys. 837 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.119 Different styles, but great captains, great captains. 838 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.920 Yeah, Calmar, take you eighteen minutes to tell you, like 839 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.519 three things. 840 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.079 How was Norton? 841 00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.320 And the chief one was my It was my mutual partners. 842 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.400 So I didn't work with him that well, oh ship, 843 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.880 I could be bed Yeah, No, I love Norton. He 844 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:09.199 was great. He was great. 845 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.880 Man. He was another one too. And Richie Meyers came 846 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.000 over from two fourteen. That was another thing. They're both 847 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.559 from one eleven, two fourteen. 848 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:17.119 That happened. 849 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:18.599 What about the fatness? 850 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.119 Who's the fatness? 851 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:21.880 Fish? 852 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.239 The fish fish from there till later even I had 853 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:28.360 to say who's the fatness? 854 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.400 He didn't come down till later on. 855 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.159 That's my partner. 856 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:32.599 I love that. 857 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.920 Yeah, I loved him. But he came there like the 858 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.599 year I was leaving. The year I left, he came in. Well, no, 859 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:40.239 when I got burned when I was there and I 860 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.000 was out for a bit. He came during that time. 861 00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:49.159 But uh yeah, Richie Sweeney, Michael Rosea just was there, right, 862 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:50.079 was there? 863 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:50.679 Yeah? 864 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.320 He was great. I worked with John a lot, he was. 865 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.760 We worked together at Joe Harris who became a big chief. 866 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.639 We worked together at uh the Star City fire, and 867 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.119 that was that was something that was like a wait, 868 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.559 that was my first fire where fatal fire. I wasn't 869 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.119 at the Atlantic Avenue fire. So but uh, I just 870 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.960 come out of rescue school. We just had the you 871 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:18.559 know the stuff where you do all the May days 872 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:20.360 and stuff in rescue school. And then I mean I 873 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.639 was out maybe a week and we're we're there on 874 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.960 the ninth floor that you know the building louis right. 875 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:27.400 Yeah. 876 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.039 We talked about the Vendealia Avenue. 877 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:33.519 Yes, yes, and we were and we h I had 878 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.400 Paul the covering Captain Paul Hagund, who was a Rescue 879 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:36.840 four guy. 880 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:37.239 Yeah. 881 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:41.239 Yeah, very good guy he you know he uh we 882 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.559 got in and we we hiked it up. The elevator 883 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.039 wasn't working and we got to the ninth floor. We 884 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.199 went to the command post and I think your your buddy, 885 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:54.079 that Chief Coward was the chief yeah, nine, yeah, yeah, 886 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.519 and uh, we get to the command post, and just 887 00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.519 as we got to the command post that you heard 888 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.039 Bop give a may day, and you could tell, I mean, 889 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.000 I never heard anything like that, Like it was, you know, 890 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.000 like he was suffering given the may day. And that 891 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:15.159 stairway was all jammed up already. I you know, I 892 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.280 wasn't on that end, so I didn't see up there. 893 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.719 But they couldn't even. They went from being able to 894 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.960 get in the hallway, get that lady out of the hallway, 895 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.599 to open the door, and getting I think Danny Libretti 896 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.920 had a stripe burn on his face from just opening 897 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:29.840 the door to the hallway. 898 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.960 And so I went in with two lines after after 899 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.880 a certain period of time, after. 900 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.679 A certain period of time, because it's I think they 901 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.239 couldn't even. And then what happened is we Haglin said 902 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.239 let's go the other stairs, which was like two hundred 903 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.400 feet down, and we went up. And when we went up, 904 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.440 one of the guys from one seventy, another guy I 905 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.920 think had not the inside team, came out, you know, 906 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.159 came stumbling out of there, and it was like a 907 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.599 freight train in that hallway, and the doors were open 908 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.000 in between and the elevator lobby, so it was just 909 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:09.599 wide open. And and we went down and uh, Captain 910 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.480 Hagelin took us down. At one point he told us 911 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.159 to uh force the door for force the door for 912 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.519 in case, you know, we had to get into it, 913 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:19.920 you know, get out of the hallway or something. And 914 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.960 I started forcing the door with a rabbit tool and uh, 915 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.800 and then he found Bob, so he called us to 916 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.960 help him take both out. Wow. And I just left 917 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.880 the rabbit tool there in the door and it was like, 918 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.519 you know, half pumped, so it was cracked open, but 919 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.199 I just left it there to go. And uh, because 920 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.800 after the fire, people were saying, oh they almost got out. 921 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.519 They were you know, they thought the rabbits, Oh yeah, yeah, 922 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:46.960 but that was you all right, right? 923 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.360 But then uh and we got him, me and John 924 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.239 Fie and I think worked him on the floor below. 925 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.719 But unfortunately, and I think he that was Bop and 926 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.119 he was the furthest away from the flu. You know, 927 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.840 it was a fire the back of the building. It 928 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:03.760 was on the back of the building and they I 929 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.880 think they opened up a door across the hallway got 930 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.280 opened up and it created a flu and they were 931 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.800 right in that flu and Bob probably would have been 932 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.880 the only one to have a shot, but he didn't. 933 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.480 Unfortunately he didn't make it. But they didn't get burned. 934 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.800 I think they got also overheated that there air tanks 935 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.480 and stuff. So yeah, that was a tough one. 936 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.039 I was, I was, I was working, I was working 937 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.679 that night, and I remember hearing hearing the job and 938 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:39.400 then we were listening to it like in the kitchen 939 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:45.239 when it was going on, I remember, but and then. 940 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.960 Yeah, but but yeah, there was a lot of stuff 941 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.800 that happened after that. They they they tried one of 942 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.679 those deep briefings at the rock like two or three 943 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.880 days later, which was a big mistake. It almost wound 944 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.400 up being a brawl. But sure, but it was not 945 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.679 a good it was not It was not a smart 946 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.239 thing to do, I don't think. But uh, but yeah, 947 00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.360 those were a lot of shit happened in that time 948 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.760 in those years there two fifty two and then I 949 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.119 got like a year later, I got burned at a job. 950 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.039 There was an awesomest who was lighting up Bushwick all 951 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.239 over Bushwick guy right, yeah, and he uh and he 952 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.119 was There were tons of fires in like January and February, 953 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.920 and then a couple he killed a couple of like 954 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.400 a kid and a woman. At one of these he 955 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.519 was lighting stairwell fires. And then apparently we found out 956 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.320 later he went into a mental institution and the day 957 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.519 he came out in June, he started the same thing. 958 00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.360 And we had one of these nights. It was crazy, 959 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.119 going from multiple to multiple. And then at one of 960 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.400 them we would way down in Bushwick. It wasn't our 961 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.559 first new area, but we were coming from another job 962 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.360 and somebody comes up on a bicycle and it turned 963 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.079 out it was the awesomeest and he says, oh, there's 964 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.119 another one around the corner. So we go around the 965 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.920 corner and the rain and uh, same thing going, you know, 966 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.480 up the stairwell and uh, Danny Murphy was working on one. 967 00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.079 He was in one seventy six at the time, and uh, 968 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.639 and we had a shaulf for that, like uh that 969 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.800 wasn't regularly always always. Uh, he wasn't that regular chauffeur. 970 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.920 And I think he gave us way too much pressure. 971 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.360 But we had and we had a detail from Staten 972 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.400 Island who was who was put his backup, who probably 973 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:33.000 shouldn't have been put his backup because he didn't you know, 974 00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.559 usually put somebody from the company. But so we got 975 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.960 uh basically had Danny Murphy behind me, and then we 976 00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.159 went up the stairs, got the first four knockdown one 977 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.199 up the stairs of the second floor, made the turn 978 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.800 towards the front of the building, and Danny in one 979 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.360 seventy six went into the apartment in the back there 980 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.440 and and I started making the turn, and I don't 981 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.480 think the backup guy never came around the banister, so 982 00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.239 I couldn't move the line that was stuck around the thing. 983 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.840 He had no back no, and then it just there 984 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.599 was a gasoline fire. Just I got my legs got 985 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.960 burnt until the cheese man came blowing past that other 986 00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:16.800 guy and came up and cheese. Yeah. So yeah, so 987 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.280 I got uh, I got burned pretty good at that 988 00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.920 and did like three weeks in the burn center. But 989 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.559 it was uh yeah, that was some That was some 990 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.760 some three years over there, three four years and then 991 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.639 I left right I got promoted right before the Father's 992 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.679 Day fire. You guys, you guys were involved with that. 993 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:36.920 I worked that one. 994 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.840 Yeah, yeah, so I mean that was crazy, like there 995 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:43.400 was a lot of multiple death fire deaths those years. 996 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:48.039 But so I got promoted. Uh yeah, I love the company. 997 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.320 I love the guys there. They'll be friends for the 998 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.400 rest of my life. And uh, how they caught that 999 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.800 that kid though, right, they caught him that night round. Yeah, 1000 00:49:58.599 --> 00:49:59.719 but there were there were. 1001 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.199 Oh my god, he was lighting up Bushwick for a 1002 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:02.960 long time, man. 1003 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.400 Yeah, and that night he finished with like there were 1004 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.800 like two or three second alarms, a third alarm. It 1005 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:14.039 was just one right after the other. M uh bastard. Yeah, 1006 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:15.840 and then you. 1007 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.159 Always use a few of those guys, I said it loud. 1008 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:28.800 That's ship. Don't get all larry. You can't remember which 1009 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:29.360 one is which. 1010 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.480 But let's see from that. So that when I came back, 1011 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.320 I came back my last store. I was lucky enough 1012 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:40.960 to get an ancole job. Yeah. 1013 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.599 Look at his job when he comes back and he 1014 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:44.239 gets promoted. 1015 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:48.800 Yeah. I got promoted with John D. Filippo and I'm 1016 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.360 not sure may or June of May of u two 1017 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.840 thousand and one. And then I got assigned to the 1018 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.880 fifteenth and I always remember the fifteenth we went to 1019 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:00.760 see the deputy. 1020 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:01.239 Uh. 1021 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.880 And the overtime then was the average overtime was fifteen hours. 1022 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:11.440 Yeah, that much. I remember, it was always under one hundred. 1023 00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:13.039 It was always under one hundred. 1024 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.840 And then they and then they said, you know, if 1025 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.400 you want to get a spot in the truck or 1026 00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.559 you know, it takes you four or five years like 1027 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.599 what like. So, but I always Tommy Kvecus, who I 1028 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.800 was very good friends with, always told me, you know, 1029 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:29.719 if I was you, I'd try to get to one 1030 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.440 twenty because he said, he you know that just that 1031 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:38.639 the firehouse itself, the company walking Street was just squared 1032 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.119 away at a fire then squared away inside the firehouse, 1033 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.760 which was you know, and so that was another besides that, 1034 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.119 and the two captains I'd had Captain hay And who 1035 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.360 became a deputy or a staff chief, and Manahan and 1036 00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:56.159 seven truck, seven truck. They'd always talked about it. So 1037 00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.559 by that time I had a number of things point 1038 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.280 in that direction. But it wasn't it wasn't going to 1039 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.039 be easy to do that obviously, But uh, the trade center, 1040 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:11.280 you know, unfortunately unfortunately, you know, it just changed everything, 1041 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:12.559 but it opened up things. 1042 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.920 Playing field many Yeah, I sure did. 1043 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:19.559 But uh yeah, so the trade center actually on the 1044 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:21.480 trades of the day of the Trade Center, I wound 1045 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.159 up Raschweiler put me back in two fifty two. I 1046 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:27.239 wound up going down there with guys from two fifty 1047 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.119 two because I stopped by the fire house. I think 1048 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.159 I told you before that morning, just as they were 1049 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:36.000 going out the door. And so we went down with 1050 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:43.719 a couple, uh, John Fienn, uh Chiusano, Rob McDermott. We 1051 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.199 went down. 1052 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:44.519 Uh. 1053 00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.239 One of the guys had a volley rig and we 1054 00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.679 went down and we got there right before, you know, 1055 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.639 a few minutes before the second collapse. But uh so 1056 00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.480 then I wound up staying with them and uh for 1057 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.000 about six weeks. They went in there as a lieutenant. 1058 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.199 But uh, and I got a little trouble my first time, 1059 00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.039 geting a little trouble. 1060 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:07.480 You poke somebody. 1061 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.440 What kind of trouble could that be? No, you know, 1062 00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.639 I think you just you're talking earlier about they had. 1063 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:15.480 At the time they had, you might have had the 1064 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:18.280 same stuff in two of the eight they had. California 1065 00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.039 Los Angeles fireman and Phoenix firemen were coming too at 1066 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.519 a time to the house, and they were doing the 1067 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:26.800 right they were professional firemen. They were doing the right thing. 1068 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.840 They were cleaning the house while we were going down 1069 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.679 to the site, cooking meals, driving guys home or doing 1070 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.000 you know, doing whatever. And then one day out of 1071 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.920 the week they'd stayed for a week, they take them 1072 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.719 down to the site. They didn't have him doing anything dangerous, 1073 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:45.159 but Uh, I walked into somebody asked me to do 1074 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:46.960 a quick mutual. I showed up to do it. 1075 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:47.880 Uh. 1076 00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.440 One of the guys left his Phoenix t shirt on, 1077 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.559 and by the end of the day I was out 1078 00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:53.960 of sock. 1079 00:53:56.039 --> 00:54:00.559 I never liked yous Phoenix. 1080 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.960 But the trade center lost a whole crew. Guy's seven 1081 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:12.199 truck that I worked with, Vinnie Princiata, Richie Muldoonney great 1082 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:18.480 fireman Freeport Fireman, Vinnie Princiata, George Kane Burne, Richards great 1083 00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:25.719 lieutenant from seventeen truck that was fireman seventeen truck, Chuck Mendez, 1084 00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.920 and I'm sure Bob Fody, all good five and all 1085 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.440 great guys who lost all those guys. And then I 1086 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.559 knew a ton of guys from Manhattan, and then we 1087 00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:36.760 knew it then you like everybody, we knew a ton 1088 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:40.360 of guys from SOCC. So it was like just unbelievable. Yeah, 1089 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.880 and that year is kind of like a blur to me. 1090 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.039 But I got out of two fifty two, and you 1091 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:47.119 know what, in a way, I think it was a 1092 00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.480 blessing because I think it's hard to go back to 1093 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.559 a company that you were. You went many years later, 1094 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:55.239 louis back to a company where you were. 1095 00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:58.079 You know, it's funny say that, because I got I 1096 00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:01.679 got promoted in junevo too. So we finished up pretty 1097 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.760 much at nine to eleven. Right, We finished up at 1098 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.559 the ground zero for the most part. And then I 1099 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.000 got around may I. You know, I heard that they 1100 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.480 were promoting you know, the guys, and uh, I say 1101 00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.400 this all time because I told this to other guys too. 1102 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.039 Kat Murphy came to me and said, hey, Lou, you 1103 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.239 know you probably could stay in Sock if you want, right, 1104 00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.800 but go out, go out in the field. 1105 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.599 If you can get to Brooklyn, go to Brooklyn. 1106 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.639 He was always a Brooklyn guy, and he said, become 1107 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:32.039 a boss, like become a lieutenant first, because like you said, 1108 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.400 it's how are you going to come back? 1109 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.119 And you know, these are your guys that you work with, right, 1110 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:36.880 they're your friends. 1111 00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:38.960 And now you're going to be in You're gonna have 1112 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:42.039 to make tough decisions and it just can get sticky initially, 1113 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:43.559 you know what I mean, like so fresh. 1114 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:45.039 So I did that. 1115 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.199 I I as soon as I got promoted, I went 1116 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:51.400 to Brooklyn and I stayed there for almost eight years. 1117 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.360 I think, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. At first I 1118 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.840 was upset, you know, I mean, because I just lost 1119 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.039 all those guys, and I'm like not you know, but 1120 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:01.920 a couple of days later, it was almost like a 1121 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:02.920 little bit of a relief. 1122 00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:04.679 No, I wanted to get out of there. Oh yeah, 1123 00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.719 I wanted to get out of the yeah, yeah. And uh. 1124 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:09.519 And then I actually wound up going down to the 1125 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.599 trade center in December for they had like month long 1126 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.519 details from the different divisions that were going down, and 1127 00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:20.519 you'd watch the grapplers and you know, looking out for right, 1128 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.320 right right, and I had something actually happened down there. 1129 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.440 At like four o'clock in the morning, all the grapplers 1130 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.880 were taking a break and this is in December, and 1131 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.039 I see I see something. It looks like just a 1132 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.840 little spindle. There's nobody in the pit at all, nobody 1133 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:37.880 And I see this something look like a little spindle, 1134 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.360 and I start to dust it off, and I'm like, 1135 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.840 this looks like and I see it like a No. 1136 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.519 It was four truck four stories down, buried underneath. And 1137 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.559 I saw the aerial ladder, the spindle of the area ladder. 1138 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:58.039 Oh shit, it was four trucks rig yeah. Yeah, And 1139 00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.760 and I hesitated about a half an hour before I 1140 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:06.679 said anything. I finally got the chief down and sure enough, 1141 00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.639 that's what it was. It took him about a day 1142 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.320 to uh, to dig it out. But there were they 1143 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:15.719 fell through the mall there, and and they fell through 1144 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.599 a jeans store, so there were jeans on top of this. 1145 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:20.800 And you might have heard this story. There was some 1146 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.599 idiot reporter who made it sound like these guys were 1147 00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:25.559 stealing jeans. 1148 00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:29.800 And first of all, I never heard that. Yeah. 1149 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.519 Yeah, this guy William Languish, I remember his name in 1150 00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:38.960 the Atlantic magazine and he made he then jose, Oh no, 1151 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:40.639 people told me. I didn't say it was true. I 1152 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.400 said people told me, but it was. But these guys 1153 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.400 all die. I know, the guys from Fort Truck died 1154 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.960 trying to rescue people from an elevator in the South Tower. 1155 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.159 But uh, but just unbelievable that they'd say like like 1156 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:53.280 yeah in the middle of like. 1157 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.079 Ye, yeah, they're gonna stop and steal jeans. That's what 1158 00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:59.599 we're doing. Yeah, God give me you, Dick. 1159 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.000 Oh, I was al wasn't ready for that, but I 1160 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:02.599 got you coming. 1161 00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:04.880 I got you coming, beauty, Dick. 1162 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.400 So I'll keep moving from there. I went back. I 1163 00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.840 went back to the fifteenth and I bounced around and 1164 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.039 it was great and like you said, but I needed to. 1165 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.079 It took me every rank. Took me time to get 1166 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.559 used to that rank and become better at it, definitely, 1167 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.159 And I wound up getting into one twenty, which was 1168 00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:27.159 a blessing. 1169 00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:32.000 How did that happen? Well, take Closs over that one 1170 00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:32.480 there we got. 1171 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.320 Yeah, well I was friends, good friends with Dennis going 1172 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:36.199 that helped. 1173 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:37.760 Oh that doesn't hurt. 1174 00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.280 Yeah, so it was good friends with Dennis. And then 1175 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:45.000 also uh Rob McDermott from two fifty two helped me out. 1176 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.159 He had a relative that helped me out. 1177 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:49.519 You, they helped you out. 1178 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.639 Looked it looked like you. It looks like you were 1179 00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.880 boxing Tyson in this one. I don't know what the help. 1180 00:58:58.199 --> 00:58:59.840 Do we have to pay that for that image? Getty 1181 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:00.679 just I don't know. 1182 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:01.559 I don't want to. 1183 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:02.679 I didn't pay for it. 1184 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:06.440 They shouldn't know. 1185 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.199 But yeah, so I got you know what it was too. 1186 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.519 There was unbelievably you know, Louis, there was just like 1187 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.599 not the amount of and then suddenly the overtime took 1188 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.679 off the same thing. There was not then competition, and 1189 00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.320 some people were afraid of one twenty because of the 1190 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.400 elevators and there's a lot of running. 1191 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:28.280 Listen, you runner. Not everybody wants to do all that either, 1192 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.199 you know, like you take a certain person to do that. 1193 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.920 Ship I covered in one seventy five, which is a 1194 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:37.880 great nice yeah, but I'll tell you the truth. They 1195 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.840 didn't run that much, which no, they don't run the run. 1196 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:42.639 The work ratio was awesome. 1197 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:47.480 Yeah, Glary, they had I remember that there the box 1198 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.320 that they had the the elevated tools in had dust 1199 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:51.639 on it. 1200 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.679 I'm like you right, one O three or two old 1201 00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:55.960 and what. 1202 00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:57.960 Twenty we were going like this to elevate its like 1203 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.760 all night right, like the one to notice and uh, 1204 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.320 you know one O three we were in the start 1205 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:05.119 every goddamn day, man, all the shit and working and 1206 01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.039 all those goddamn projects over there. 1207 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.519 But but you know what, it was better for me 1208 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.559 because I was still I was like eleven twelve years 1209 01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.599 on the job. I was a young lieutenant. I need 1210 01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:17.360 that was no good for me to just do three 1211 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.719 runs a day, you know what I mean, even if 1212 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.320 it was you know, you had good ratio fires as 1213 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.960 you get older. That's a good firehouse for an office. 1214 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:27.800 Oh yeah, but for young office I needed and uh 1215 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.239 And I'll be honest to you. After losing, you know, 1216 01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.880 after so many guys, a part of me didn't wasn't 1217 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.760 sure about becoming a part of any house. I was 1218 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.519 bouncing around. But it was the best thing that happened 1219 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.800 to me coming into that house, a very tight house. 1220 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.800 And and I always back in seven Truck. I always 1221 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.079 played sports, basketball, softball, and these guys did all that. 1222 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:53.039 They did everything they did Engine Truck, basketball, softball, bowling, volleyball. 1223 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.519 Oh my dude, that that place. I talk about that place. 1224 01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.320 It's like forty four truck. It's like one of the 1225 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:03.639 pinnacle firehouses, right that The alumni is incredible, Right, the 1226 01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.599 firehouse is incredible as it is, but the alumni is incredible. 1227 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.679 You know, they do snuff together all the time. It's 1228 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:11.639 just it's a perfect it's perfect place. 1229 01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:11.840 Man. 1230 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.760 Yeah, It's like the place. The place is bigger than 1231 01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:19.000 any personality, any one personality. And then the first captain 1232 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.800 was there was Harry Werner, and Dennis Gordon was an 1233 01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.880 officer and Tomas squadro. 1234 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:28.039 And he was there forever Dennis, right, he was ridiculous. 1235 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:32.400 Amount of tteen seventeen years, Yeah, exactly, and uh, but 1236 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.480 then very senior. It was very senior, John John Narva, 1237 01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:40.440 John Coelely, Kevin Cannon, a lot of senior guys in 1238 01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.559 the truck when I got there, and they treated me 1239 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.039 like I'm sure you probably had the you know, they 1240 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.159 treated me if I was a young younger than all 1241 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.840 of them. They treated me like with respect right away 1242 01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:50.960 that I didn't even deserve. 1243 01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.199 And uh makes the job easy, right. 1244 01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.000 Yeah, very easy. And they talked and they had roll calls. 1245 01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.679 They always talked about fires. They were always looking, you know, 1246 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.239 they've admitted mistakes. They were always looking to get better. 1247 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:07.559 And I love that atmosphere. And then seventeen guys got 1248 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.599 promoted out of the truck during the time I was there. 1249 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.519 Wow, that's a lot, I know. 1250 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.199 So they it's always been a big study house too, 1251 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.280 so they a lot of young guys came in and 1252 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.079 the young guys were great, and that that might have been. 1253 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.199 Like the place fresh. Yeah, that's the best time, right, 1254 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.079 you're just fresh. Everybody's learning. You're bedrilling all the time. 1255 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.280 You're going to fires, talking about. 1256 01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.920 Fires exactly as a lieutenant. It's very good because it 1257 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.159 gives you something to And they were so enthusiastic, these 1258 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:36.719 guys one. 1259 01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:39.519 Two oh to the four to four K. 1260 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:46.400 We got a ghast sleeking apartment for David. I'll get 1261 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.920 your name in a second. They're making an eighteen for 1262 01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:52.159 a ten to forty goat too. 1263 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:53.920 Him. 1264 01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:55.159 I love it guy. 1265 01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:58.280 And then when he came, when he comes, and then 1266 01:02:58.360 --> 01:02:59.440 Bobby Higgins. 1267 01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.039 Had been Higgins loved that guy too. 1268 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.079 Man, the two of them, it was the same thing 1269 01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.239 like going back to my first fire house, Like when 1270 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.800 you got two captains in a house like that that 1271 01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:11.159 were so great. And they were great captains, I mean great. 1272 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.519 And Calamari always stand like you know, he could he 1273 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:16.840 like anybody. He could have a favorite or you could 1274 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:18.880 get along better with certain guys. But he was fair 1275 01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.119 across the board. He was squared away this. You don't 1276 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.480 screw this up, you don't screw that up. And he 1277 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.400 was a lot of fun and he was just uh, 1278 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:28.159 he was great for that firehouse. 1279 01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.559 I used to I used to work in the engine 1280 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:33.440 things too, I used to say to the captain, and 1281 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:35.440 he played hockey. I played hockey. I used to see 1282 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.800 Captain Higgins all the time. And his son played in 1283 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:38.480 the NHL. 1284 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.119 Right, oh yeah, yeah, so. 1285 01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.800 So I remember I used to I remember saying to 1286 01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.159 him like, how are you still doing this cap? Like 1287 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.760 for years? Like how much time did he have? He 1288 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.440 was running around like he was in phenomenal shape. 1289 01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.159 I know, but it was just like you think to yourself, like, 1290 01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:00.840 holy mackerel, Like at so point you might go to 1291 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.840 like three thirteen in or somewhere. 1292 01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:04.519 You know, like not that guy, you know that, not 1293 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:05.039 that guy? 1294 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.559 Well, no, and he was he was too like he 1295 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:10.719 with the people in the neighborhood that he was like 1296 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:12.760 a saint. He was like a saint. He was such 1297 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:16.159 a good Yeah, he was such a good uh a 1298 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.159 good guy man. He was just such a good him 1299 01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:19.559 on the show. 1300 01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:22.199 Yeah, I got I gotta work on we gotta work 1301 01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:22.480 on him. 1302 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:26.199 Yeah, he's a real class act. Him and him. 1303 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.320 I'll get callam married to work on that. The squid, 1304 01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:30.559 We'll get the squid to work on that. 1305 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:33.599 And then a lot of a lot of the young guys, 1306 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.760 and now they're all stars today. You know what I mean? 1307 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:37.800 Will Hickey, I don't know, you know, Will Hickey. 1308 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.360 That's myself's cousin, Will Hickey. Oh brother, Yeah, his cousin 1309 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:43.639 or his brother either one. 1310 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.719 Oh Will Hickey. Yeah, he used to live next to 1311 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:46.360 my sister. 1312 01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:54.639 And yeah, yeah, yeah, great guy. He uh. Rob Petroca, 1313 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:58.320 I have all that, all these names down there, you 1314 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:00.000 of the young guys. I don't want to forget him. 1315 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.840 I wrote down the name of just about everybody I 1316 01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:02.239 work with. 1317 01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:05.320 We don't care. 1318 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:10.039 Yeah, I mean in the engine Mike Prolophone with phenomenal Chauffa, 1319 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:15.239 Al Garracio, backstep guy for twenty five years, Mike laughing. 1320 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:17.920 Now the great great guys there in the in the 1321 01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:23.719 in the truck. Rob Brown went there after Dennis Gordon left, 1322 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:31.519 that's right, and John Philly, John Dooley, Larry Schneckenberger, Mike Kelly, 1323 01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:36.440 John Narbert, Don Michelley, Danny Wetzel. 1324 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.679 We might know, yeah, I know he. 1325 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.119 I always joke about him. He would like they have 1326 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:45.840 the roll calls every day and they'd be like a 1327 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.800 half an hour, guy's talking about flyers or whatever. And 1328 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:52.920 then and Danny was always talking, always talking, and then 1329 01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:54.559 the day they'd always let the guy, you know, if 1330 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:57.880 you're getting promoted, you know, okay, you're the officer for 1331 01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.320 the day. I'm going to ride the backstep. But he's 1332 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.960 got to run the roll call. And then he gets 1333 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.719 to run the roll call the day He's like, I, no, 1334 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:08.480 I can't say. 1335 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.880 So I came out with him. I came up with Danny. 1336 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:13.760 You came on with wil Yeah. 1337 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:15.480 So we were pretty close. 1338 01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.000 And then you know, the seat when I got to 1339 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:19.760 two ninety and we would run into you know, we're 1340 01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.360 first and second two uh for quite a few boxes 1341 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.880 over there, and uh, you know, they would break my ball, 1342 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.760 you know, especially like you said when I first got there. 1343 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:29.679 But for me to be in the engine when I 1344 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.559 first got there. 1345 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.440 And Larry was in the truck and Dennis was in 1346 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:34.920 the truck, and there was a little you know, it 1347 01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:35.960 was a little bit here like this. 1348 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:36.199 You know. 1349 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:37.719 I remember one of the first runs, we would come 1350 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:41.320 down the block, uh the right way, and then one 1351 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.719 twenty would come down. I forget what the building was. 1352 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:46.079 You probably know what's what I'm talking about. Yeah, they 1353 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:48.039 would come in. They were first two on that side 1354 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.960 because the block was down there, and we would meet 1355 01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:53.639 like this, and I remember we didn't have a hydrant. 1356 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:54.840 You know, I would say, you know, we get on 1357 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.679 the radio and say one twenty we don't have a hydrants. 1358 01:06:57.719 --> 01:06:59.239 You know, we were getting off the rig or whatever 1359 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:01.920 to you know, And yeah, then I would hear on 1360 01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:04.920 the radio, A ninety you can't get water from a 1361 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:06.960 parked car or some shit like that. You know, they 1362 01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.440 were always everybody was always chirping all the time. But 1363 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.440 you know, then i'd go back, you know, back up 1364 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:13.719 and go get engine options, you know, facts over the. 1365 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:17.360 Uh you know, the ups operations or whatever. But I 1366 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:18.599 was get along Wallet. 1367 01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:22.239 Levy, Yeah I did too. I mean, uh with you guys. 1368 01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:24.639 And I remember after we had a fire in the 1369 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:27.360 firehouse at one time you guys were over giving us 1370 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:31.119 kitchen stuff. There was competition there, but I think especially 1371 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.159 between the trucks with the engines. Different story. But the 1372 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:36.519 guys always banging. But I wasn't in the engine, so 1373 01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.719 but uh, but with one O three I not, you know, 1374 01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:41.559 I mean there's times we banged heads, but. 1375 01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.280 Uh, you're like this story I had. 1376 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.920 We had unfortunately in two thousand and five when Uh, 1377 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:52.360 we lost Richie Sklofani and uh again same thing. Like 1378 01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.880 you said, all the firehouses were great, right, cooking meals 1379 01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.320 and doing stuff for us and everything. And we made 1380 01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.119 plaques up for everybody, right, for all the firehouses for 1381 01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:00.760 doing the right thing. 1382 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:01.000 Right. 1383 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.800 So we were going to one to your place, and uh, 1384 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:07.719 I think it was Rob Brown was working and we 1385 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.760 were just like a block away, and sure shit, a 1386 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.960 fucking box comes in for a fire right down the block. 1387 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:16.760 I don't know if it was like just past Pickin 1388 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:18.439 or some one of those blocks. I mean a couple 1389 01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:20.920 of blocks. I mean we are right there, we're second due. 1390 01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:25.800 We turn, you know, we're a couple of blocks from 1391 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:27.960 your fire, from from the block you guys are on, 1392 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:30.520 and all of a sudden we come. 1393 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:31.720 I got the plaque in my hand. 1394 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:33.600 I put the plaque on the on the dash, and 1395 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.319 as we're coming up to your I'm like I told 1396 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.399 Freddy was Freddie Gallag, I'm like, Freddy, just heads up 1397 01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:40.479 in case they're coming out obviously, you know what I mean, 1398 01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.560 be frying out here for a fire, right, And you 1399 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.039 guys are just pulling out and I see Rob as I'm. 1400 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.640 Driving by, I look down the block and he makes 1401 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.319 eye contact with me and I could see his face. 1402 01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:54.760 He's like, ah shit, you know what I mean, we're 1403 01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:55.800 just like sicknings. 1404 01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:58.600 And we get up to the block and now I 1405 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:00.359 could look in the mirror and I can see they 1406 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.199 turned onto the onto the onto a picking or whatever 1407 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:03.560 we were on. 1408 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:06.079 And I stayed up. Freddy. I'm like, stay, you know, 1409 01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:07.880 stay right here. Let them in. I'm like, one twenty. 1410 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.720 You guys are first. And it was almost like he 1411 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:16.279 was like what yeah, yeah, he was in shock. 1412 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:17.880 And then he went in and then I we we 1413 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.039 we came in second, dude, and uh. I remember going 1414 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:22.920 up to him and he was like, it turned out 1415 01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:25.560 to be like a little bullshit job anyways, but thank god. 1416 01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:28.319 But because you know what you could have done with 1417 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:29.319 that plot didn't do that. 1418 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:33.439 He said to me. He said something to me, He's like, Louis, 1419 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.199 thanks a lot, man, I appreciate it. You know, we'll 1420 01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:37.079 forget it. I'm like, don't fucking forget their ship. I'll 1421 01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:37.640 tell you right now. 1422 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:39.680 The guys the backstep say to. 1423 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:42.560 You, bro, nah, they were cool, man. They did yeah, 1424 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:44.520 they were right there, they were pulling out, they were 1425 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:44.920 right there. 1426 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:50.039 But maybe I love that time. I love that part 1427 01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:53.479 of Brooklyn. I love I love the competition. I loved 1428 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:54.520 I loved all that ship. 1429 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:57.399 The competition is good. It makes everybody better. 1430 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.520 Yeah, bros, what happened when the spots came right? We 1431 01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:01.960 made everybody better around us? 1432 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:02.239 You know? 1433 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:03.520 Yeah? 1434 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:03.840 What did? 1435 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:04.199 What did? 1436 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.880 Happy used to say? It's called aggressiveness. Get used to it. 1437 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:12.399 Yeah, to us, it's called aggressiveness. Get used to it. 1438 01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:16.880 I will, I won't. I won't go into Uh. I 1439 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.000 broke my arm. We had a little accident, and I 1440 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:21.479 won't go into that too much. But I broke my 1441 01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.800 arm and and my plan was just to stay in 1442 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.359 one twenty the rest of my career. But because I 1443 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.399 broke my arm and I got in a little trouble again. 1444 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:35.079 But you and louis what you guys are actually parallel. 1445 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:38.920 I was mentioned and yeah, one other five before that, 1446 01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:43.399 I got in trouble. Uh well on hins Hillsdale and 1447 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:48.039 you guys Hinsdale, you guys weren't there, I think, uh Hensdale. 1448 01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:51.319 It was shortly after Richie Scoffani, like a couple of 1449 01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:55.760 months after that. Richie Scoffani passed Black Sunday there and uh, 1450 01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.840 it was a free standing frame and Calamari was working 1451 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:04.159 in uh either three point thirty two one seventy five 1452 01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:08.960 that day on overtime, and uh, and I'm working, I'm 1453 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.560 working in the truck and he he called me on 1454 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:13.560 the radio coming in and said, Larry set up the 1455 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:16.880 towel ladder because it was the top two stories of 1456 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:19.359 the frame going. We thought it was front rhea and 1457 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:21.760 it was a free standing frame. So he said, you're 1458 01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:25.159 gonna We're gonna use the towel ladder, and uh. The 1459 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.279 dispatcher sent one to seventy six as an extra truck 1460 01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:32.239 on calls. So now we get there and then we 1461 01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:34.800 figured they just as we pull up, they figure out, oh, 1462 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.279 the whole top to the back of the building isn't going, 1463 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.279 so we're going to make a push. But it was 1464 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:41.880 a Klia's mansion. It was a crazy building. But now 1465 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.399 everybody's there at once, squad rescue, three trucks and a 1466 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:51.000 fast truck and all these and it's a Kalia's mansion. 1467 01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.319 So now everybody goes in the building at once, which 1468 01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:58.279 shows you, you know that the coming in at different 1469 01:11:58.479 --> 01:11:58.680 you know. 1470 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:02.119 Uh times, Yeah, yeah, right, hymes better, it's much better. 1471 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.279 It paces out better, but so it was crazy. And 1472 01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:07.079 then so we go to we got to go to 1473 01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.640 the top floor with second duwe truck and it's crawling 1474 01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:12.439 over bags and and uh, we get up to the 1475 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.119 top floor and one seventy six who didn't have a. 1476 01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:20.000 Assignment that's time that they just followed us in and 1477 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.800 they oh yeah, And it's the only room that's not 1478 01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:25.680 on fire on the top floor is is kitchen in 1479 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.720 the back, and and we don't have a line though. 1480 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:30.680 They can't even get a line. It's so crazy. They 1481 01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.359 can't get a second line past the first line. It's 1482 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:37.680 just craziness. So we're up there and we're bumping into 1483 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:42.039 each other in that kitchen. It's ridiculous. Two inside teams. 1484 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.640 And then they start calling for everybody out of the building, 1485 01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.359 and uh, there was a little bit and somebody from 1486 01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.920 some company somewhere made a comment over the radio about 1487 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.720 fighting fires from the inside and Brooklyn or something like that, 1488 01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:02.039 and uh and which was not good and the chief, 1489 01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:06.399 so the chief got pissed. But then we were delayed. 1490 01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:08.760 It was my spot, so I was all delayed and 1491 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:11.960 and uh I waited for everybody and you couldn't get 1492 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.359 out quick because it was Kylie's it's bags of clothes 1493 01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:16.680 on the stairs and shit. So it was a long 1494 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.159 delay getting out. So I got in trouble for that one. 1495 01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:22.439 I got a month essay. All the truck officers got 1496 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:26.359 in trouble one seventy six, one seventy five because we 1497 01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:27.640 did none of it. We didn't come out of the 1498 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:28.439 building quick enough. 1499 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:30.560 I didn't poke nobody. Believe that coup. 1500 01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.600 Oh you didn't poke nobody. 1501 01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:38.399 But but then I got in trouble one more time there. 1502 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.159 But the the uh wow, trouble follows shit. 1503 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:42.680 But because and I had two or. 1504 01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.760 Three months essay after I broke my arm, I had 1505 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:48.079 a couple of months essay. So I studied because I 1506 01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:50.560 was essay and they would give me a lot of overtime. 1507 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:52.039 There was a lot of overtime at the time, so 1508 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:54.079 I was able to study. That's the only reason I 1509 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.640 became a captain is because of that, because I wouldn't to. 1510 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:02.079 I didn't ruined it. So you get your study and 1511 01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:03.560 you get promoted captain. 1512 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:07.399 In seven o seven. 1513 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.359 Yeah, and you aside to the first division. Yeah yeah, 1514 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:14.880 And uh, did you work in the first division? 1515 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.239 I did. I worked. I worked in the first division 1516 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:19.399 and I was at the Starrets. I worked in three 1517 01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:23.119 truck to day of the Starret City fire. But uh, 1518 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.319 we we got down were they sent us like on 1519 01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.960 the third alarm which was delayed delayed arm, and we 1520 01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.119 didn't the guys actually do it was right around change 1521 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:33.840 it to was. I was listening to the initial calls 1522 01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:35.880 that sounded bad. Then there was nothing on the radio 1523 01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:38.760 for about twenty minutes, and then all of a sudden 1524 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.000 the third alarm. The guys thought it was like for relief, 1525 01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:43.760 and then we stole we go down. We're going down 1526 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.239 Broadway and you started to hear you started, I could 1527 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.720 hear over the radio. You know something's going on. Good. 1528 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:50.720 Yeah, yeah, it's not good. 1529 01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.039 So when we got it was crazy too. The trade 1530 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:58.479 center site was all construction site still and you had 1531 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.359 to break through these walls even to get close to 1532 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.079 the building. And uh we got in and actually chief 1533 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:09.199 who's now a staff chief, ol hey, uh Pitt got 1534 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.119 three truck and we went up the staff like it 1535 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:13.720 was weird all the stairs because I think it was 1536 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.680 the first building they ever did a demolition and a uh, 1537 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:19.640 you're talking about Deutsch the Deutsche Bank building. 1538 01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:21.680 Oh, I didn't know you were talking about the Deutsche Bank. 1539 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:23.079 I took something else. 1540 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.479 But it was the worst of it. The worst of 1541 01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:28.159 it was all but when we got there, I mean 1542 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:29.800 it was still going on, but the worst of it. 1543 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.239 I think they'd gotten the guys onto the elevator but 1544 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:40.039 uh yeah, And the stairways were sealed at each floor. Yep. 1545 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:41.680 It was a really strange thing. 1546 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.039 That was a mess. Man, that was a mess waiting 1547 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:46.239 to happen. And the sprinklers won't I mean, the staf 1548 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:47.119 piso were working. 1549 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:48.920 Yeah, it was great. 1550 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:51.319 It was That was a real mess. But I don't 1551 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.600 think they'd ever done a demolition and a it's best 1552 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.279 this removal at the same time like that. It was 1553 01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:00.319 crazy what they were doing. And they had they had 1554 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.279 fans in there that were like that were still working. 1555 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.000 They were like a vacuum. They almost looked like they 1556 01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:10.039 were like ten or fifteen like well, it looked like 1557 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:14.000 washing machine sized fans that were like pressurizing the area. 1558 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.680 And I think that's what's made everything screwed up, you know. 1559 01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.920 I mean they were just like plastic sheeting and and 1560 01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:22.199 it just screwed everything up. 1561 01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:24.880 But I can't imagine we had a few people on 1562 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.479 that talked about it, but I can't imagine, Like you 1563 01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.239 get out into the hallway finally, right, you think you're 1564 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:31.239 you're free. 1565 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.520 And then you go down and then there's like, yeah, 1566 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.760 I mean it just like a sheet apply with across. 1567 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:38.439 You can't even force your way out of the thing, 1568 01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:41.039 and you're only have a certain amount of air and 1569 01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:43.720 nothing is where it's supposed to be or or I 1570 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.720 mean that's gotta be. Yeah, it is a nightmare. You 1571 01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:49.600 can't even get out out to the scaffold. Some of 1572 01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:51.359 the guys did get out on the scaffold. I remember 1573 01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:52.359 the conversations. 1574 01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:55.720 But yeah, there's one guy, I forget his name. He's 1575 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:57.880 one of the most senior guys on the job. He 1576 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.640 was in I think sixteen truck. 1577 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:00.199 Uh. 1578 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:02.760 He saved a bunch of guys, got him out into 1579 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:04.720 this Kenny Rwayne, Kenny Ruwayne. 1580 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:06.680 Yes, I've been trying to get him on the show. 1581 01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:08.960 Yeah, he wasn't give me his double. 1582 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:09.560 I worked with him. 1583 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:10.199 He's a great guy. 1584 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:15.039 Yeah, Byzeldo was that guy. Do you know Kenny fail 1585 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:18.760 into in your neighborhood? Oh yeah, yeah, did name the 1586 01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:20.079 street aft him that? 1587 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:20.439 Yeah? 1588 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:22.159 He died in the trades and he was a seven 1589 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:22.640 truck guy. 1590 01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.920 Yeah, he was in two That's how I know that name. 1591 01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:28.199 Yeah, he retired, he I mean, he passed away. He 1592 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:30.479 was in two seventeen, but he was working. He was 1593 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:36.399 paying back a tour and uh downtown Brooklyn. Yeah, but uh, anyway, 1594 01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:38.680 that that was and then I just that year I 1595 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:43.199 did Ah, I was going I thought I needed college credit, 1596 01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.119 so I was going to school. Uh and I uh 1597 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.199 and I wound up working at headquarters under Chief Hey 1598 01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:54.159 there in safety command. But that was interesting because I 1599 01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:58.319 got involved. I was editing just like the uh you know, 1600 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.920 doing the grammar ship for the couple of fatal fire reports. 1601 01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:05.079 So I got interested in that stuff and looking at 1602 01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.479 all the fatal fire reports over over the years and 1603 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.640 ship and it was interesting just to see, you know, 1604 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.760 like they were like patterns about how shit gets sucked up. 1605 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:18.760 And then uh, and then the shock thing came along. 1606 01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:20.960 So but then I had to do a year at 1607 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.000 the rest of you school just as you yeah, just 1608 01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:25.680 the ring did a tag. 1609 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:27.479 I was getting out. 1610 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.319 He was there at the same time for a month. 1611 01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:31.720 We were at first. Yeah, we were there for a 1612 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:33.600 short time. I think I was leaving and he was 1613 01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:35.520 coming in. He was you were leaving Rex, right? 1614 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.039 Yes, yeah, I. 1615 01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:40.720 Worked with Rex and Keysling, I think for sure, you know, 1616 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.159 however it worked out on their times, I think. 1617 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:49.319 Yeah. So I had Rocky and that's how I wound 1618 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:50.319 up like meeting Rocky. 1619 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.239 You got a picture of Rocky day guns, Yes we do, 1620 01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:54.079 Sorry about that. 1621 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:56.840 And I said, I said, right, if I ever get 1622 01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:59.279 a spot, you know, I'd go for Rocky. Right, because 1623 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.479 Rocky kind of like flew in underneath a lot of 1624 01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.279 these guys didn't know who he was. He had a 1625 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:05.239 ton of experience. 1626 01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:07.359 Oh my god, does he have experience? This guy. You 1627 01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:09.960 would never even believe it. Like I used to say 1628 01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.039 all the time, cous. 1629 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.800 Cous, and he remembers and he remembers fires like he 1630 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.279 remembers details. He's got a good memory. 1631 01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:20.039 Yeah that's crazy. 1632 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:22.640 But uh so, Yeah, the rest of the school was 1633 01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:25.039 good for me too, though, because I didn't I didn't 1634 01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:26.800 you know, I've been out of sock all those years, 1635 01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:30.680 and uh, I didn't remember the the special operations stuff 1636 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:32.439 so much, did you. 1637 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:33.760 No. 1638 01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:35.840 I was just saying with you, like, you know, doing 1639 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:37.800 the trench stuff and you know all the other ship 1640 01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:39.800 you know, even the ropes, like doing all that stuff. 1641 01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:44.159 When I came back, we did the uh Firefighter removal class. Right, 1642 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.239 you did all those the new classes that they had 1643 01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:47.119 that they came out with. 1644 01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:51.279 You know, that was brutal and that was and it was. 1645 01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:53.680 A lot more advanced than than when we first did 1646 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:54.239 that stuff. 1647 01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.560 Oh yeah, the collapse stuff was all different. 1648 01:19:57.760 --> 01:19:59.560 Right, I want you to go back to soccer. 1649 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:04.960 What's that? Because I moved upstate? 1650 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:06.640 Oh? Is that what it is? 1651 01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:10.199 He kept calling me. He's like, dude, you got to 1652 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:11.199 get out of you got to get out of it. 1653 01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:12.520 You got to come back to SoC you got to 1654 01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:13.359 come back to SoC. 1655 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.199 So he would he would tell me too, it's like 1656 01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:16.359 a kindergarten class. 1657 01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:16.600 Yeah. 1658 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.720 I got a fucking constantly guys fucking coming in the office. 1659 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:22.239 And it was three hours, like three hours to get home. 1660 01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.000 Like you said, the work even started to slow down 1661 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.680 a little bit. It wasn't as you know, after Richie 1662 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:29.479 passed away, it was a little different, you know, like 1663 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.399 had changed a little bit. And uh I said, you 1664 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.279 know what, maybe I need to I need a change 1665 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:37.279 or something, you know, and uh I called chief off 1666 01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:39.159 of me, you know, similar to probably what you did, 1667 01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:40.800 and Uh, and that's how it worked out. 1668 01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.119 Yeah, it was good for me. It was good for me. 1669 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:46.159 And I was impressed too by it, Like these guys 1670 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:50.520 that the extent that these guys, uh you know, the 1671 01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:52.800 guys that teach the classes and ship that how much 1672 01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:54.680 they knew and the and the effort the guys put 1673 01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.560 into the collapse simulated. 1674 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:56.880 It is crazy. 1675 01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.680 That is true. That's unbelievable. I mean, I'm not. I don't. 1676 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:03.239 I wouldn't even compare myself on any level to those 1677 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:03.600 guys that. 1678 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:06.880 I mean, have you been down there lately at all 1679 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.119 to see what's going on down there? 1680 01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:08.319 Now? 1681 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:10.319 The last time I was there, I think there was 1682 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:11.399 something the plane for. 1683 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:14.479 Yeah, it's amazing. 1684 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.760 But uh, yeah, no, I'm very impressed with the level 1685 01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:22.359 of all that ship with those guys. But uh, and 1686 01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:26.079 then then I was out there bouncing around, which I loved. 1687 01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:27.520 I loved bouncing around soccer. 1688 01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:27.640 Man. 1689 01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:31.279 You go, you know, you meet everybody, everybody treats you well, 1690 01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:33.880 and you go into good companies, got a shot at 1691 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:36.479 you know. When I was bouncing around, I worked everywhere, 1692 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.159 and then I caught the most fires in rescue five 1693 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:43.720 bouncing around. Really yeah, I had a really good string 1694 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:47.119 over there. I had crazy ship and I also had 1695 01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:51.359 you know what they get over there, the using the 1696 01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:53.960 Hirst tool jobs over there, they get a ton of 1697 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:58.159 that riving with their arms out there. 1698 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:01.039 Up doing the lean. 1699 01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:04.079 I was saying that a roll call with one of 1700 01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:05.800 the guys. I was saying, I can't believe how many 1701 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.199 you know hers two jobs I'm going to here. It's 1702 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:11.439 like every tour, I'm going to two jobs and we're working, 1703 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:13.960 we're doing something, and as I'm talking to the guys 1704 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.039 in front of the firehouse, you hear a car flip. 1705 01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:26.079 Here we go. But had good why there. I was 1706 01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:29.560 there for a couple months, but and then you know, 1707 01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:33.600 Rescue one was opening at the same time, and as 1708 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:39.600 forty one, and Captain Murphy was really unfortunately he got 1709 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.439 ill and he was he had to retire us. But 1710 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:44.760 he was really the person that was going to get 1711 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.479 forty one, but so he had to retire, and then 1712 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:51.039 all these guys were going for that big shiny Rescue 1713 01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:55.000 one spot, and forty one was a better fit for me. Anyway, 1714 01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:59.239 I'm not as much the emergency guy, like I just admitted, 1715 01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:03.239 I'm not. That's not my I prefer the fires regular 1716 01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:06.359 fire house stuff, and and forty one was open. It 1717 01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:10.680 was like a clear path a lot of fund. I 1718 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:13.000 loved that place years ago when we were in the squads. 1719 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.359 I'd done details there and I always loved it. It's 1720 01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:17.920 like a regular fire house in there, you know what 1721 01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:18.159 I mean. 1722 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.760 I mean that place is that area is a shithole. 1723 01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:26.399 I mean it's like not it just around that is incredible, 1724 01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:29.359 Like it's incredible, Like what's going on around there, And. 1725 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.520 The fact that they shoot over the bridge to Manhattan 1726 01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.439 too is like, oh, no, brain bro. 1727 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.079 And and you know what's good there? You know what's 1728 01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:39.319 good there, which I didn't do a lot of ever before. 1729 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:41.479 It was good because totally new borrow for me. And 1730 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.279 it's a different world up there. You had to get 1731 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:46.920 used to it. But uh, but the the age types, 1732 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.279 there's always a lot of places for the squads to go. 1733 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:52.680 There's always places for companies to go there because there's 1734 01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:56.159 so much you know, routinely, you know, you get a second, third, fourth, 1735 01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:58.560 to fourth fire and h type. The top floor is 1736 01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:02.600 heavily exposed and nobody's assigned there, I mean not the 1737 01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:05.439 second dude trucks going the floor above. And so there 1738 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:09.199 was always places to go. So that that was and 1739 01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:13.079 the house, the guys were great, a phenomenal fire. 1740 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.039 House, are you lieutenants there? 1741 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:22.359 Oh? I had well originally Mickey, Sean Genoviez and Timmy Grant, 1742 01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:25.520 which were they were all great. And then rock when 1743 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.520 Timmy left shortly after he got promoted, Rocky came in 1744 01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:32.680 to me. That's like it's like the New York Mickey, Yeah, 1745 01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:38.600 there he is. Mickey was what what you know? I 1746 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:40.720 learned a lot just watching the way he operates. And 1747 01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:42.439 then I got Then he went to rescue three, so 1748 01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.800 I got to go to fires with him. But uh, 1749 01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:48.159 just so squared away and and uh, you know. 1750 01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:52.000 He is pretty I mean he's one of the top 1751 01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:56.680 uh fineman on the job, always has been. And on 1752 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.840 top of that, he's he's such a great instructor. Like 1753 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.000 I remember, like like you said, like sitting in on 1754 01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:04.880 stuff that he was teaching at. You know, he was 1755 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:06.479 always out there teaching doing stuff. 1756 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:06.840 You know. 1757 01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:09.039 He enjoys that and he did a great job with that. 1758 01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:13.840 He retire, he's oh he's still working. He's like sixty three. 1759 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:16.560 And he got in good shape again, he got in 1760 01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.960 good shape. But he he was just always squared away, 1761 01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:22.000 like you looked at his gear was always set up 1762 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:25.439 exactly right. I mean he was and just he was 1763 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:27.520 always in the right place. And he didn't have a 1764 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:29.319 big ego. I mean he always wanted to be in 1765 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:31.560 the action, there's no doubt. But he you know, I 1766 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:34.600 saw he gave up grabs to the first two companies 1767 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.880 and stuff I seen him do. But uh, just a 1768 01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:39.960 great guy. Sean Jenneviet's the same thing. Man. 1769 01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:43.079 Great he was there forever Sean right, Yeah. 1770 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.920 He was there as a fireman and then uh, then 1771 01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:48.479 he went to sixty one when the initial squads, and 1772 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.199 then he came back over after nine to eleven and 1773 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.359 he was there a long time, great great fireman. And 1774 01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:56.239 then Rocky too. Rocky fit right in. 1775 01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:58.159 So and it took me. 1776 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.880 I'd say, it's a different rank, you know. I mean 1777 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.760 at fires it's the same when your captain as a lieutenant, 1778 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.800 it's the same deal at a fire. But in the 1779 01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.239 firehouse it took me. You know, I had to get 1780 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:12.159 used to the rank. And I think that's what's you know, 1781 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:16.039 I had to retire early for medical stuff, but I 1782 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:19.960 I felt like I was just kind of getting used 1783 01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:22.880 to that rank. Because when you're bouncing around, it doesn't 1784 01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.880 mean anything because you know, a captain, you just found 1785 01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.520 your groove. Yeah, so, but which it's which? Each rank 1786 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.159 was like that for me. But I love, I was 1787 01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:34.760 very everywhere I went. I was. I just had like 1788 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.479 a blessed career. I got lucky to get places. I 1789 01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:40.560 got lucky the people I worked with, such quality people. 1790 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:44.600 And and really, I mean I didn't You could talk 1791 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:47.319 about this stuff forever. But the guys, the stuff in 1792 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.199 the firehouse, just the way guys. You know, I was 1793 01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:51.720 a bit of a knucklehead when I was young, and 1794 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.640 just watching the way guys do the right thing in 1795 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:57.039 the firehouse. How they take care of families, how they 1796 01:26:57.319 --> 01:26:59.680 you know, they take care of people. Stuff in the neighborhood. 1797 01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.199 Forty one always did that with the local church there, 1798 01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:07.560 and uh, guys like Tommy Covecis in in two point 1799 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:09.800 fifty two. They would he set it up with the 1800 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:12.479 local church. They get the poorest family in the neighborhood 1801 01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.000 and you know, we give them a Christmas. We get 1802 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:16.880 the priest to tell us who the poorest family was 1803 01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:18.960 around there. We'd give him a Christmas, you know, bring 1804 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:21.680 a tree and gifts all that kind of shit. And 1805 01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:25.359 Don Glennon, who's from one twenty years ago. They they 1806 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:30.720 they'd got like a baby Jane Doe that nobody you know, 1807 01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:33.479 at a fire that nobody ever claimed whatever, and they 1808 01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:37.600 Walking Street did a big funeral for just ship like that, 1809 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:41.600 and Captain Higgins, these guys just with such quality people, 1810 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.960 and uh, you know, I mean to be a part, 1811 01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:47.359 to be able to be a part of that in 1812 01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:49.800 your life, even though it's over now, it's hard, I agree. 1813 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:54.279 I learned so much from guys doing the right thing, 1814 01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:57.239 like in every in every facet of everything, you know 1815 01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.600 what I mean, no matter what it was, and everybody 1816 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:02.479 was accountable, right, you know what I mean? Like it 1817 01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:05.880 initially it forces you to do it, and then after 1818 01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:08.239 that you just do it, like you don't even think 1819 01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:10.319 about showing up the stuff, and you know, doing the 1820 01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:12.279 right thing, like you said, you know, sure. 1821 01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:14.399 What do you think you caught the most fire duty 1822 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.319 cap you know? 1823 01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:20.079 I don't, I don't, I don't know, because it's it's all. 1824 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:23.840 I caught good fires everywhere I was. I'll just talk 1825 01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:27.359 about a couple of fires at forty one that were interesting. 1826 01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:30.399 One of the last fires I was at was row 1827 01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.640 frames in the bronze help but the upper level of 1828 01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:37.399 where we would forty one response area. And I thought 1829 01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:40.560 we saw Brooklyn were very good with frames because they 1830 01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:43.560 had so many of them. But up there it was 1831 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.279 it was on a hill, which they didn't have. They 1832 01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:50.520 don't have no hills in Brooklyn now. And the fires 1833 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.439 the first frame on the corner and went up, you know, 1834 01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:59.159 a steep hill. So it moved so fast, you know, 1835 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:01.199 up to the frame. It went through fourth frames and 1836 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:02.600 into two private dwellings. 1837 01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:03.079 Wow. 1838 01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:07.039 And that was that was some fire. And then uh, 1839 01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:10.319 then I had and we got in quick on that 1840 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:13.760 and and like within you know, so quickly it was 1841 01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.279 in the fourth frame already and moving so quick there 1842 01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.960 weren't enough lines to go anywhere, but uh. 1843 01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:19.960 We didn't there. 1844 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:25.199 Yeah, it was a tough one the hill. But then 1845 01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:29.319 then I had a one in Harlem that was a 1846 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.479 weird one too. It was a fire on the first floor, 1847 01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:34.760 like underneath the stairwell in a tenement in the back 1848 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:37.199 apartment on the first floor. As soon as you walked 1849 01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:39.600 in and we came and thinks, oh, it's like nothing. 1850 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:42.479 It seems to be like knocked down. And then the 1851 01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:44.439 chief says, you want to check the upper floors. And 1852 01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:47.800 we go upstairs and the stairwell is like burnt. It's 1853 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:51.359 like there's little flames like it had lit up. There's 1854 01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:54.000 little flames around the window frames and door frames and 1855 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.840 but it was not it wasn't on fire still. But 1856 01:29:57.920 --> 01:29:59.279 we get up to the fourth foe and there's a 1857 01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:03.600 door open and the whole the whole apartment. 1858 01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:10.079 Was yeha, remind me the live chief, I don't know, that's. 1859 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:11.880 What I said. The chief did like almost didn't believe me, 1860 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:14.840 and I said, yeah, we got an apartment going on 1861 01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:18.600 the fourth bloys at the fourth floor and uh and 1862 01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.560 then unfortunately, uh, Danny Pritzker found on the fifth floor, 1863 01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.039 he found a girl had stepped out and throw. What 1864 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:29.960 had happened is the hallway lit up. Uh fro came 1865 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:31.840 out and lit I'm not sure what caused it to 1866 01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:34.520 do that, and uh, it lit up. And then it 1867 01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:40.119 just was like craziness because there was trouble getting lines 1868 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:42.560 or whatever. It was like six o'clock on a Friday night. 1869 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:46.199 It was insane companies coming in and the auto exposed 1870 01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:49.119 to the fifth floor. Then the sixth floor became one 1871 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.840 of those crazy ones. But but uh, the guys always 1872 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:57.239 did forty one. The guys always did a great job 1873 01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:00.399 there and always would like non stop, you know, do 1874 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:02.720 whatever it was until you until you had to leave. 1875 01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:06.800 I mean the non stock great, great guys and a 1876 01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:08.119 lot of fun in the firehouse. 1877 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:13.359 Does Rescue three go across to HALLM. 1878 01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:16.039 Too, Yeah, they do, but we what we would. But 1879 01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:17.600 what was good is we were a lot low. We 1880 01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.920 beat them into you go right over that bridge day 1881 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.119 right ato halem right, yeah, And so we we could 1882 01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:25.600 beat them and we get in pretty quick. And the 1883 01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:28.800 same thing for like lower HALLM. Like for Rescue one, 1884 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:30.840 had a long way to come up, so we we 1885 01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:32.760 get in there quick. I mean it was a great 1886 01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:33.640 great How far. 1887 01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:34.319 Did you go down? 1888 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:38.960 Like what street was like like approximately eightieth on the 1889 01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:41.560 east side and ninetieth on Wow. 1890 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:43.079 That's pretty far down. 1891 01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:43.880 Yeah, I know. 1892 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:46.359 I didn't know that either. 1893 01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.960 Yeah, it was good. If you look at Squad eighteen 1894 01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:54.319 for them to get you know what traffic's like in 1895 01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:55.279 Manhattan for. 1896 01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:57.680 Them to get all the way from downtown up to HALLM. 1897 01:31:58.079 --> 01:31:59.920 Yeah. No, it's in the middle of the day and night. 1898 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.199 It's one thing, but in the middle of the day it's. 1899 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:04.439 Wow, that's a huge area. 1900 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:04.680 Man. 1901 01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:08.000 You guys said, no, it was, it was. I just 1902 01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:09.600 want to take a look to see if I'm forgetting. 1903 01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:13.520 I'm sure I forgot multiple things. I mean, the guys 1904 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:20.479 in forty one, uh, Brad, Brad Daily, John Barret, Jimmy Deschuelo, 1905 01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:25.239 Jerry Connelly, Jimmy Smith, Smitty Chris Brown, Steve Poris, Danny Pritzker, 1906 01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:29.279 Scott Hickey, Mike Lindy, who went to three Timmy, Timmy 1907 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:30.359 o'tours my chauffeur. 1908 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:35.319 Is he still on the job, Timmy? 1909 01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:37.640 Yeah, he's on it. He's getting close to getting out. 1910 01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:39.000 He's got about thirty five years. 1911 01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:40.600 He was. 1912 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.640 He was great. He would he was my chauffer most 1913 01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:45.960 of the time. He'd start telling me a story writer. 1914 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:48.920 As we're back in the rig into the quarters, he'd 1915 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.800 start a long story, Jess. As we're back into twice, 1916 01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:55.920 why do you tell me? Like we just drove five Yeah, 1917 01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.880 I'm a really good guy on man. Great. Yeah, yeah, 1918 01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:05.840 very talented guys that very u I had. I had 1919 01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:07.720 a lot of fun there. The first one of the 1920 01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:10.800 first nights I get there, We're coming back from something 1921 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.039 three o'clock in the morning, we pull in front of quarters, 1922 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:18.199 there's like ten women out in the street, a pregnant woman, 1923 01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:22.920 a midget and these other women and they're having a 1924 01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:25.239 rumble in the street, and I mean like a real 1925 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:28.600 rumble in the street. So we get out and it 1926 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.560 was like playing and for some reason, I the midget, 1927 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.760 I had to block the music from going. So it 1928 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:36.720 was a lot of fun there. 1929 01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:38.199 I've got the Midget. 1930 01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:39.760 Place. 1931 01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:43.960 That place is crazy around that place, Yeah, freaking crazy there. 1932 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:47.760 I talked to Mike and he tells me all the time, 1933 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:49.680 what's going on ore, it's Mayhem over there. 1934 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:52.880 Oh it's crazy. They got the there are I supposedly 1935 01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:55.079 they said that K two was coming back, you know that. 1936 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.239 Yeah, yeah, nice, Yeah, that's good. 1937 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:01.880 That makes people. Zombies are for me and you good good, 1938 01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:07.239 good find. But the guys are a lot of fun too. 1939 01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:11.479 There's a lot of joking around, Like Scotty Altman, I 1940 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:13.560 remember we had on one four ninth Street. You had 1941 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:19.680 a like some e MS run and uh, the the guys. 1942 01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:21.439 The guys are working on the guy in the street 1943 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:23.600 and I'm trying to write the paperwork and this guy 1944 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:26.119 keeps on tapping me on the shoulder behind me and 1945 01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:28.359 he's got like a he's trying to sell cell phones 1946 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:30.680 or something. I'm like, you know, like all right, I 1947 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:33.319 leave me alone. I'm doing something and he keeps tapping me. 1948 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:36.239 And it turns out Scotty Altmans tell him. Tell the 1949 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:38.000 Captain wants to buy a phone. Get him. 1950 01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:46.680 So if you go back to any point in your career, 1951 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:48.520 where would you go, what time would you go? 1952 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:51.640 Let me see? 1953 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.239 It's stuff to say. I mean nine to eleven screwed 1954 01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:58.119 everything up right? Yeah, I hate to say, but you 1955 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.199 know what, like I said, like after nine eleven, then 1956 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:02.880 the best medicine for me was getting a spot in 1957 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:06.119 a firehouse like blocking street, because I thought, I didn't, 1958 01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:08.760 you know, to my two companies I've been in lost 1959 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:12.199 everybody and you guys know you you lose all that, 1960 01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.159 and I was just like I wanted to know all 1961 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:17.800 these people again and uh being a company like that again. 1962 01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:21.159 And the best medicine was doing it and uh and 1963 01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:23.560 getting back in the game and going to fires and 1964 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:27.239 hanging with the guys I love. I truly loved everywhere 1965 01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:30.159 I went, and it was for each place was right 1966 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.159 for its time, and like I said, all these you 1967 01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:36.399 know to be around I didn't mention half the names, 1968 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:39.720 but like legendary Fireman, and I always thought that when 1969 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:44.319 I first came to Brooklyn, like that when I'd see 1970 01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:47.279 some guys uh and and know that, you know, see 1971 01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:49.640 what they doing at fires and I'm like, how does 1972 01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:52.279 like the this is before Fireman got all this attention. 1973 01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:55.640 I'm like, these guys are freaking unbelievable, Like how does 1974 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:58.680 nobody know about this? Shit's going on in the world, 1975 01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.239 you know, like what the But then I think afterwards, 1976 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:03.600 maybe not getting all that attention is a good thing, 1977 01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:07.079 because sometimes the attention is that yeah, I agree with 1978 01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:10.800 that too, but but yeah, I'm just impressed, like, well, 1979 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:13.239 how lucky I am to have had that, even though 1980 01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:17.159 it's all it's hard to accept that. But I couldn't 1981 01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:17.319 do it. 1982 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.760 Oh you got that in seventeen Yeah. 1983 01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:22.640 While seven years so we did. 1984 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:25.720 We did the same amount, he is too, twenty seven 1985 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:27.600 years Yeah right, you did twenty seven. 1986 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:31.000 I did, like this, you guys man. 1987 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.840 But but it's one of those things you think, I think, 1988 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:37.920 you know, unless I did everything to the Rocky rode 1989 01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:41.479 it out to the last minute, I always feel like 1990 01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:43.479 I should have done but it could you know, it 1991 01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:44.119 is what it is. 1992 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:46.399 You have to you know, sometimes you gotta go when 1993 01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:47.680 it's not Yeah, you. 1994 01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:50.000 Know, happens the way it's supposed to happen. And lucky, 1995 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:52.000 you know, we're lucky. We get to spend time with 1996 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:54.960 our families. A lot of guys, a lot of guys 1997 01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:56.800 are gone that you know, we all knew. 1998 01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.800 And it's but uh, I tell my wife that all 1999 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:01.119 the time. 2000 01:37:01.239 --> 01:37:03.680 This is all all these twenty years, these twenty three 2001 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:05.800 years or whatever the heck it is twenty four years now, 2002 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.920 it's all gravy. Yeah, right, if you think about that that, like, 2003 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.000 how how easy it it could have been? 2004 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.039 Just luck of the draw. Right, it's all gravy, man, 2005 01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:16.600 Everything we're doing is all gravy. 2006 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:19.640 Oh yeah, I think you were talking about black Boy. 2007 01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:21.479 I think that he used to have that thing on 2008 01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:25.319 the T shirt. Don't sweat the small stuff, and remember 2009 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:26.319 it's all small stuff. 2010 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.039 Yeah yeah, yeah, no doubt it could be worse. 2011 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.439 So tell us about your family liaison. 2012 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:37.920 It could have been my liaison, that could have been 2013 01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:38.560 my wife. 2014 01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:43.239 I mean, I'm not saying that, but ageah, what are 2015 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:43.720 you gonna say? 2016 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:45.720 Hey, Larry? 2017 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:47.960 What tell us what we were talking in the pre show. 2018 01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:52.359 You were saying, even going over to uh to France. 2019 01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.159 Now you got some stuff going on over there. Tell 2020 01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:55.079 us what you don't read. 2021 01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:58.880 Yeah, well, my my wife's she's Italian actually, but from France. 2022 01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:02.720 We uh so, yeah, she inherited a house over there. 2023 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.039 I've been visiting over there like I used to do it, 2024 01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:08.279 like every other year, go and visit. Then we're retired. 2025 01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:12.520 We uh, I happened to be over there when COVID happened, 2026 01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:15.319 so we stayed for a long time, and then uh, 2027 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.680 she inherited this house. So we fix them up the 2028 01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:19.720 house and been spending half the year over there. 2029 01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:22.079 That's all on the Mediterranean. 2030 01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:23.199 How's how's your French? 2031 01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:26.600 It's not I'm taking that's not so good. After thirty 2032 01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:27.439 something years, it's not. 2033 01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:31.479 But you're getting there. You can understand what's going. 2034 01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:37.479 On generally, Yeah, I could, but I had trouble initiating 2035 01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:40.960 conversations sometimes. But I can pretty much understand. 2036 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:44.680 Most understand when they say Medican. 2037 01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.680 By me that they're not the like Parisians, they're. 2038 01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:49.840 Not the study snoody French. 2039 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:53.199 No, it's like the Southern. It's like Southern. 2040 01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:53.439 Uh. 2041 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:55.960 It's it's a different world down there. All right, but 2042 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:58.920 uh yeah, no good, a very good, very You know. 2043 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:01.880 Her town is like the a place where people her 2044 01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.039 mother who died at ninety nine years old, wow, still 2045 01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:08.960 new people that she went to kindergarten with in that town. 2046 01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:10.479 I mean people, you know, it's that kind of place. 2047 01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:11.880 They don't move. Yeah, they don't move. 2048 01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:12.359 Yeah. 2049 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:13.920 They all stay there. 2050 01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:16.920 And good and just and from the get go like 2051 01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:19.239 they they treated me like family over there. 2052 01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:22.079 You spend any time at the French firehouse over there. 2053 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.479 I did. I had done some couple of things. Yeah, 2054 01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:30.000 I went to a place up above. I think I 2055 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:32.479 told you. I went to like World War One battlefields 2056 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:38.479 up there, up in above, like the poorest part of 2057 01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:41.399 the coal mining part of France. And they and the 2058 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:44.920 patron saved for firemen, and Saint Bob has the same 2059 01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:48.039 saint for coal miners. So they had me. They have 2060 01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:50.239 like an annual thing. And I got invited up to 2061 01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.560 that and that and and the guy, uh, one of 2062 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.960 the guys, one of the firemen from up there that invited. 2063 01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:58.199 It was a great week and everything I went by myself. 2064 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:00.560 And then he came to New York next year when 2065 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.159 I was in one twenty and the night he came. 2066 01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:04.359 We caught like three jobs. 2067 01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.960 So it was like, wow, no, not no, he came 2068 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:12.239 to he came to Oh. 2069 01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:12.720 He came to you. 2070 01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:15.479 Oh well, that's good for him to tell me. It's 2071 01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:16.159 like that every night. 2072 01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:20.000 The Roofie used to tell me one three, it's like 2073 01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:20.600 this every night. 2074 01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:20.840 Kid. 2075 01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:24.000 But let me just say, I just see if there's anything. 2076 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.560 I yeah, check it out. Check do we have? Was 2077 01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:29.439 there any other pictures that we had to go over gon? 2078 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.720 So that was it we had. Actually we have the 2079 01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:33.800 Billy or Sully rather. 2080 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:40.359 Yeah, we had Bryan Sulvan, a great, great addition to 2081 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:42.920 the company, a great guy from the get go. He 2082 01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:47.279 he came over from two fifty two and uh phenomenal guy. 2083 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:49.880 Fit in like uh fit in like the day. 2084 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:52.920 Nobody cares. 2085 01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:54.920 We don't just whispering that. 2086 01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:56.960 And then we have a little story behind this one. 2087 01:40:57.760 --> 01:40:59.600 Oh yeah, that's the guy on the left. There is 2088 01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:01.880 Vinnie in Siata from that was seven truck. We used 2089 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:05.960 to do the high rise high rise unit things that 2090 01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:08.479 was in the books. That was never put to use eva, 2091 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:10.880 but it was you know, like if there's a high 2092 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:14.199 rise fire, they would drop the NYPD would meet us 2093 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:17.159 at the rock and you'd get in there with you know, 2094 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:18.880 certain it's in the books. I don't even know if 2095 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.439 it's still They have certain tools and they drop you 2096 01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:24.600 off on the roof and so once a year it 2097 01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:26.840 was a drill. They just give us a helicopter. You know, 2098 01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:30.319 we'd do it, run through the motions and get on 2099 01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:34.720 a helicopter and ride around. That's Frank Gribin who became 2100 01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:38.960 Press Commissioner there with his back to us. Lieutenant Kezlowski 2101 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:41.840 on the right, and that's Vinnie Princiata. But I had 2102 01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:44.079 another picture. I think I gave it to his family 2103 01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:48.800 at the time, but that had him looking at the 2104 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:51.439 camera and behind him was we were like the eightieth 2105 01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:54.319 floor of the Trade Center, flying around the Trade Center. 2106 01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:57.439 So that's pretty wild. 2107 01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:00.520 Yeh go, this is Kevin Brown check it in the 2108 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:01.560 high rise roof. 2109 01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:05.920 Team h r RT. Yeah. I don't know even know 2110 01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:08.199 if they still do that. They never used it. So 2111 01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:17.520 Brad Daily, Scottie Oatman, Scooter, I'll tell you a quick 2112 01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:20.800 Scooter story. He was always like he was like the 2113 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:22.880 social worker, like if somebody if we went on an 2114 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:25.520 EMS run, he was always like sympathetic to the people. 2115 01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.600 So we go on an EMS run. There's an older woman, 2116 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:31.720 Hispanic woman. She doesn't speak English. She fell out of 2117 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:33.399 bed and she probably broke in the middle of the night. 2118 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:36.399 She broke a leg. And her daughter's there, who's like 2119 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:39.359 in her fifties or something. And and we come in 2120 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.000 and now we're waiting. Ladies, got a broken leg. She's 2121 01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:44.000 sitting on the bed and we just got to wait 2122 01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:47.319 for EMS and the projects. And Scotty's there and he's 2123 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:50.720 talking to the daughter, who's in her fifties, and he says, 2124 01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:54.199 and we find out everything about the mother and but 2125 01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:59.359 then he says, but how are you doing? Within two seconds, 2126 01:42:59.399 --> 01:43:02.039 the woman there's a whole life story. She burst into tears. 2127 01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.680 He's like, and it's happened that all these runs. I'm like, 2128 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:08.960 what's this guy doing here? 2129 01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:17.079 Scooter all right now right, guns, Yeah, it's just fucking 2130 01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:19.119 signus thing. But and then we get three pictures, so 2131 01:43:19.239 --> 01:43:22.479 we have two of this particular incident training thing here. 2132 01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:27.800 Oh yeah, that's just uh they were doing uh confined 2133 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.279 space at the top of the one of the towers 2134 01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.000 on the Brooklyn Bridge, and uh they wanted us to 2135 01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:36.000 do you know that in case they're they were doing 2136 01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.279 some special because inside the towers there there's rooms, and 2137 01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:42.079 so they sent they sent me and Liam and Timmy 2138 01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:46.079 Grant up there. So we got to walk up the walk, 2139 01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:48.600 up the cables and go, uh, go to the top 2140 01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:49.399 of the bridge there me. 2141 01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:53.800 He did that on a fifteen ice street bridge. I'm 2142 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:54.479 not a fan of it. 2143 01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.560 You don't like heights to you, No, that's. 2144 01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:01.079 Why you got to first, because if you sit there 2145 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:02.800 waiting to get it, you. 2146 01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:04.920 Let him build up the anxiety and the last but 2147 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:05.479 not least. 2148 01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:10.159 That's a recent a couple of months ago, two fifty 2149 01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:15.840 two old man dinner at Zoom stompish nice. 2150 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:17.880 Did you have to stay ta ta No? 2151 01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.239 I don't even know. You know, you never that's the 2152 01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:22.199 problem with these things. You never get to really eat. 2153 01:44:22.239 --> 01:44:23.079 Everybody's talking. 2154 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.239 And how about the labor casing or the South Broughton. 2155 01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:29.079 I think I had the sal Brown. 2156 01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:30.640 You just say to me, I don't like it. I'm 2157 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:31.479 gonna take his offensive. 2158 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.760 You said to me, you go get some hot tea something. 2159 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.640 Yeah, ship chief talk. 2160 01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:42.720 But with Louis I had a very similar path to you, right, 2161 01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.439 I mean you were in a regular company, which was great. 2162 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:48.279 I'm sure you loved one seventeen, right, I did, and 2163 01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:51.520 then went to the squads and then to Brooklyn and 2164 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:53.039 to get then back to. 2165 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:54.560 Socc back to sick. 2166 01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:59.039 We retired, uh, pretty much almost the same time. I 2167 01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:01.439 think I got out in night. So it was just. 2168 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:06.600 It's good when stuff keeps me from being totally uh. 2169 01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:09.439 You know, hearing the other guy's talk. You know a 2170 01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:12.039 lot of the guys and hear him talk about stuff. 2171 01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:12.800 It keeps it alive. 2172 01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:16.039 That's why we like doing it keeps us in the game. 2173 01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:17.880 Glad he did it. 2174 01:45:18.560 --> 01:45:22.680 M hm, great story, great career. So you know before 2175 01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:26.920 we let him go, wisdom. 2176 01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:41.760 You take it away, brother, I guess for me, like 2177 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:43.880 going back to that first fire, I talked about where 2178 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:47.840 I didn't notice ship, you know, like where I let 2179 01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:49.840 a lot of stuff like I just blew. You know, 2180 01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:52.840 my head was on fire, My head was going going 2181 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:54.720 full speed and I just blew past it. A lot 2182 01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:58.119 of stuff I should have noticed that, you know, my 2183 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:00.399 whole career, I always tried to slow down enough to 2184 01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:04.520 catch stuff like that. And there was one other thing 2185 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.239 I just want to because it's similar to that I 2186 01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:10.920 had early on in seven truck. I remember I had 2187 01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.960 a covering officer from the Bronze who'd seen a ton 2188 01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:18.039 of fire, one of those guys from the Warriors, and 2189 01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.520 we had a fire in a commercial building in the 2190 01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.680 utility room, and I brought in the dry cam and 2191 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:26.600 we go in this utility room and we knocked down 2192 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.319 the fire and there's not a ton of fire. And 2193 01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:30.840 then with the dry cam and the smoke, you can't 2194 01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:32.520 see what's going on. And the guy said to me 2195 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:35.600 the ceiling was glowing. And the guy said, Larry, why 2196 01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:39.680 don't you just pull that? And I thought for a second, well, 2197 01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:42.680 you know, we're in a utility room, but you know, 2198 01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:45.439 he must know what he's talking about. So I reach 2199 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:49.159 up with a wooden hook, thank god, and it arcd 2200 01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:52.680 on the on the metal part of the hook and 2201 01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:54.960 it melted the hook like butter over the top of 2202 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:58.760 the Wow. I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel because 2203 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:00.600 it was dry. There was no water there. We used 2204 01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:02.239 dry cam, there was no you know, there was a 2205 01:47:02.319 --> 01:47:05.640 dry wooden hook, but the hook was in the flyhouse. 2206 01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:07.560 After that was like there's like a piece of butter 2207 01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:11.439 melted over the end of it. But it was that 2208 01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:15.079 thing of basically, you know, noticing shit or speaking up. 2209 01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:17.880 I always told guy flyingman underneath me. If there's something 2210 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:20.479 you see that you don't think I see, just speak 2211 01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:23.600 up and tell me, because like because afterwards I told 2212 01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:25.520 the guy, oh, yeah, I thought that, and he said, well, 2213 01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:27.640 you tell me if you see if you you know, 2214 01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:30.760 he says, I had a brain thought and you know 2215 01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.399 you you think of that, tell me don't just don't 2216 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:36.920 just go along with it. And uh, but that thing 2217 01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:39.439 with the fire and not noticing stuff, I think, like 2218 01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:42.760 in a truck in particular, they used to Uh. I 2219 01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:44.920 don't know where it came from. Uh Will I think 2220 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:46.800 Will Hickey told it to me. He got it from 2221 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:50.000 somebody else. But if you're going around to uh, if 2222 01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:52.079 you're the room for the OV and if you know, 2223 01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:54.920 we're always flying off the rig as fast as you 2224 01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.039 can and get in there. But he said, the guy 2225 01:47:57.079 --> 01:47:58.800 would always go to the corner of the rig and 2226 01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:00.640 touch the same spot and look look at the building 2227 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:03.920 real quick, just to take in what's there, you know, 2228 01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:08.039 really literally taking two or three seconds to just slow 2229 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:10.239 down enough to focus on what's going on in front 2230 01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:13.319 of you. And then you may be less likely to 2231 01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:16.479 miss stuff like you might because I talk to guys sometimes, 2232 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:18.760 you know, somebody had to get to the rear. And 2233 01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:21.159 on one side is a driveway wide open going to 2234 01:48:21.239 --> 01:48:23.079 the rear. As another side is a fence where they 2235 01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:24.960 got to break a lock and they got you know, 2236 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:26.920 they missed the driveway and they go right for the fence. 2237 01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:30.039 So it's that thing just to take an extra couple 2238 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:34.239 of seconds to size something up. And also with that, 2239 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:39.520 just for me, it was always I always love like 2240 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:42.880 looking at buildings in our district, in your district, because 2241 01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:45.840 if you know buildings, it makes a huge difference in 2242 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:48.279 the way you can fight if you're being ready to 2243 01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:50.479 fight a fire and you're comfortable to fight the fire 2244 01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:52.800 and uh, and to know where to go and what 2245 01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:55.880 to do and UH, I always think of and one 2246 01:48:56.199 --> 01:49:00.239 in h one twenty one time they had a uh 2247 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:02.760 they were vacating a building. And we've been by like 2248 01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:05.520 ten times to this building during the vacate And on 2249 01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:08.319 the first floor there were vaking apartments. Above the first 2250 01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:11.319 floor was a commercial like Delhi or something, and they 2251 01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:13.960 had holes in the floor and everything, and and next 2252 01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:17.479 and on the second floor and and out the window 2253 01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:19.399 windows along the side of the building and outside the 2254 01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:23.359 windows was the roof of a one story commercial. So 2255 01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:26.359 sure enough that the next day I'm in Boom, we 2256 01:49:26.439 --> 01:49:27.560 get a ripping. 2257 01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:29.720 Job in there and that's crazy. 2258 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:32.359 Yeah, we go up and we know exactly that where 2259 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:34.159 the holes are, and we can go along the side 2260 01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:36.359 of the building to the back. If it's bad, we 2261 01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:38.760 can hop out this window, fall on this roof next door. 2262 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:41.920 Just because we looked at it, you know. And it's 2263 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:45.319 not like we were you know. It's just because we'd 2264 01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:48.359 seen it that we're able to do it. But so 2265 01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:52.199 that sting. Just know your buildings and uh and take 2266 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:57.199 takes take a few seconds to size something up, soil 2267 01:49:57.199 --> 01:49:57.680 you catch it. 2268 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:03.000 Next great job. 2269 01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:07.600 Before we get to the shoutouts and thank you, let's 2270 01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:08.680 play the last two commercials. 2271 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:11.680 Cons really quick, yes sir, all right, here we go. 2272 01:50:11.880 --> 01:50:12.560 Arm We're tough. 2273 01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:16.079 Need a new floor for your fire station? 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Start a program, whether it's exercise. 2298 01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:44.119 Or a diet. 2299 01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:48.439 Don't start too harsh, don't set the goal high. Start 2300 01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:51.399 little increments. Start with your diet. Cut one thing out 2301 01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:55.000 of your diet. If you start exercising, train once a week, 2302 01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:57.239 twice a week. If you set the goal too high, 2303 01:51:57.720 --> 01:51:59.840 you're gonna make yourself miserable and you're gonna feel like 2304 01:51:59.880 --> 01:52:02.359 you failed when you can't complete what you've set. So 2305 01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:04.720 set it low and then always build up. 2306 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:05.960 There you go. 2307 01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:08.399 I like that one, Koby, thank you. 2308 01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:09.279 All right. 2309 01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:10.720 We got a couple of shout outs. 2310 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:16.239 The first one I have is actually for Captain Graham's nephew, 2311 01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.199 the little boy, Coop Cooper. Uh, he had cancer and 2312 01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:25.520 we've got a message from Captain Graham that he is 2313 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:28.279 doing fine now, thank God. So all the prayers and 2314 01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:32.279 this is a Christmas miracle because he had a very 2315 01:52:32.319 --> 01:52:33.560 aggressive form of cancer. 2316 01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:36.840 And like I said, to all the prayers and uh 2317 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:40.000 he is right now, he's doing well. And the more 2318 01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:42.680 we see he is in remission. So thank God and 2319 01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:45.279 good dudes, thank you, good news. 2320 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:48.560 It's a Christmas miracle. And unfortunately we have a line 2321 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:54.800 of duty death. We have standby. Uh, mister kobl Oh, 2322 01:52:54.840 --> 01:52:57.800 that's my dad. The Chattanooga, Tennessee Fire Department was his 2323 01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:01.079 most senior member, Captain George Early over the weekend and 2324 01:53:01.159 --> 01:53:02.840 a line of duty death. He died of a heart 2325 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:05.079 attack while on shift working. 2326 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:07.760 Out at his station. Uh so we're gonna give the 2327 01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:10.079 five bells to Captain Turtley. He was the most senior 2328 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:12.279 man in Chattanooga. Stand by. 2329 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:29.800 Rest in peace, brother, Captain Tompkins. Great show, I was awesome, career, 2330 01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:30.640 great stories. 2331 01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:32.479 Thank you for coming on. Appreciate it. 2332 01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:36.239 Yeah, thank you, guys man. It's good to h it's 2333 01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:37.520 good to talk about that stuff. 2334 01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:39.800 Yeah, come on, we'll have you back on again. We'll 2335 01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:41.600 have like a training episode. 2336 01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:46.760 Make sure you're around in August. 2337 01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.680 We have a boat around the Manhattan. We have the 2338 01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:53.800 John J. Harvey we got out of fire boat. 2339 01:53:55.199 --> 01:53:55.520 Awesome. 2340 01:53:57.520 --> 01:53:59.560 Every guest from the past year is invited on. So 2341 01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.880 we'll see the first or second week of August. 2342 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:03.520 I don't know what it is. 2343 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:08.960 First week in AUGUSTA, yes, anyway, you gotta shout outs rough, No, 2344 01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:09.439 we got a. 2345 01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:12.880 Show on Monday, correct morning, Christmas. 2346 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:15.800 Chief Rice, last one before Christmas, yep, seventeen truck Guy 2347 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:19.319 and then Coobs is off out of the country, going 2348 01:54:19.359 --> 01:54:22.319 to Spain, Europe doing it. I'll be doing a show 2349 01:54:22.439 --> 01:54:25.840 from Spain to film a show in the Spanish chef 2350 01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:26.560 Fight department. 2351 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:30.079 I thank you, guys, was too. It's the anniversary of 2352 01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:32.640 the Start City. Are you going to say something about that? 2353 01:54:32.840 --> 01:54:33.399 Or yes? 2354 01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:36.840 God that you had it right Vandalia Avenue. 2355 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:38.840 I have a picture of it. Yes, I figured you 2356 01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:43.199 can just uh, excuse me. I'll share the image if 2357 01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:44.920 you want to. Just read off the names for me. 2358 01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:47.359 I had the other image on there, but I had 2359 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:53.520 to remove it. So is twenty six year aniverse was 2360 01:54:53.560 --> 01:54:54.279 actually yesterday? 2361 01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:57.760 Oh my goodness gracious. 2362 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:00.720 Yep, that's Bowhead Bob what cavaliery? 2363 01:55:01.119 --> 01:55:03.600 Yes, yeah, I had them up earlier, but I had 2364 01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:05.079 to chase to change the image out. 2365 01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:07.960 All right, I can't even believe that that's long. 2366 01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:10.960 Yeah, it's crazy how fast time? 2367 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:16.079 That means you're old in Franto, not me, No, not you, 2368 01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:19.800 no forever young. All right, guys, cats, stay stay tight, 2369 01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:23.319 we'll in the in the post show. Guys, be safe. 2370 01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.119 We'll see you Monday night before Christmas. Yes, we love 2371 01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:29.359 you too, Cydy Drake and all you guys in the chat. 2372 01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:32.399 Until then, you know what I say, stay low. 2373 01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:34.680 And go Merry Christmas. 2374 01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:37.520 Thanks again, Larry, Merry Christmas. 2375 01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:37.720 To you. 2376 01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:40.640 We'll see it, the big one. Everybody all right, guys, 2377 01:55:40.720 --> 01:55:41.399 have a great weekend. 2378 01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:41.840 Good Night,