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Speaker 1: Ninety three ESPN the Fan He is Cougar Sports with

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And then we're into our interview portion here on Cougar Sports.

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Gonna be down in practice. I forgot to say that.

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I just forget to say that when I'm recapping things.

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to be down there. We're going to be doing interviews.

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I was able to get caught up with you know,

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Evan Johnson last week they played the interview for you.

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It was fantastic. Schmev got him back as a red

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shirt sceener. You heard it from him. I guess I

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can get the guy on the line his thoughts as well.

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He said there was never a doubt in my mind

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that I was leaving by you, you know, And obviously

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I also asked him, Hey, how did it feel for

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the fan base? You know, when you're on vacation with

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your brother of no, schmiv.

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Speaker 2: Don't leave, don't leave.

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Speaker 4: He said, it feels great to be loved and have

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people on your side.

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Speaker 3: And that's the That's how contagious it is for this

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BAA football culture right now, not the BYU basketball culture.

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Though unfortunately Hoog's lost to Texas was not the game

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that everybody wanted. It did bust my bracket I had

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BYU going to the Sweet sixteen beating gonzag I thought

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this third iteration of what we saw in the Big

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we got Darnell Dixon double D.

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Speaker 4: How we doing today?

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Speaker 5: Not too bad.

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Speaker 6: I'm not quite ready for spring sports, but I guess

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I gotta start getting into them, don't I.

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Speaker 2: You do?

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Speaker 3: And I know about this right because we It's crazy

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that I've been doing this for five years but I've

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known you guys doing this particular portion of setting things

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up for about three Now I know how May gets

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for you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I see you. I don't think I

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see you at all during the month of May.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's about a billion the high high school

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games going on because they added boys and girls across

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recently in boys volleyball. So the spring is just just

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a mess with with tons of games. It's fun to

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try to cover everything. But and I really I like

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volleyball life. That there's volleyball in the spring, that's great.

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But I wasn't ready for the basketball season end quite yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well when did you When did you get back?

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Speaker 4: When did you get back? Double d? I got back yesterday.

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Did you get back the day after the game Saturday?

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When did you fly home?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: I hung around for a while in Portland, Common Oregonian,

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so you know, I kind of appreciate all the stuff

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going on there. And plus I had a deal with

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my hotel that if I had left, they would have

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charged me more.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I'm cheap. Oh, so I decided to

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stay and went from there. That's just how I am.

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This says how I roll.

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, look, I'm out of cheapo either of the

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same thing. Remember last year, and I don't know if

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we've told people this story, but byu Is in the

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Sweet sixteen thought they would get Alabama. They didn't, and

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we hung around, darn know, and uh in Newark, we stayed.

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Speaker 4: In there and we did we did.

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Speaker 3: We did not because we didn't want to be cheap

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os lose money on the Airbnb paid more money on

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our flight, so we're like, you know, we'll fly back.

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Speaker 6: Here, catch another couple of games, went some movie, you

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know that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent definitely did that. And look, I don't

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know if I ever got your thoughts. What was it

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like for you to see Cooper flag in person? Obviously

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we watched AJ this whole year, but let's throw that

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discussion in the mix, because that was a discussion last year.

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know Duke's roster was way different than BYU's. Would you

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have taken would you have taken Cooper flag number one

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Speaker 4: Now having seen both of them play in person?

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Speaker 6: Well, to be honest, watching Cooper Flag play last year

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in the Elite eight against Alabama. I was like, yeah,

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he's a good player, He's fine. I mean, I didn't

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think he had a great game. I think, as I recall,

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he shot less than fifty percent from the field, Duke

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still won because they have a time talent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. See what he's doing in the NBA now, though,

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it's just like crazy because you could see it.

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Speaker 6: You can see it coming, because if you followed his

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high school career a little bit and saw what he

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specific point in time as compared to taking the long view.

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twenty five, twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Was a complete disaster. Well not necessarily.

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Speaker 6: I mean, certainly they were expected to be better than

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a first round excit, but they weren't. But I think

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think they still have a lot of good things in

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and not every year you're gonna have five season ending

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injuries and So I think if you take the long

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of this team. But if you look at the long

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view and say, you know, you've seen all the things

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that are building up, the kind of momentum that AJA

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helped build up, that you would still feel pretty positive

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about what BYU has in store for the basketball program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you brought up obviously the resource allocations, things like that.

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What grade do you give this BYU season? It's tough,

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and you can go numbers too, you can go want

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to go one out of ten, I mean, not give

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a letter grade if that's easier for it, whichever one.

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But it's it's tough because I've never seen five season

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ending injuries. And you saw last night the team that

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lost Alabama speaking of them, they got BYU last year

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spank Texas Tech because they didn't have their best player.

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a factor. And you see that with other schools. You

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see Arizona have depth, them go toe to toe. You

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see Iowa State even though Joshua Jefferson did go down.

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in depth, you don't win. So how do you grade

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the season with that? And even the players that they

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did pay to come here and play that it didn't

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Here's what I would say, and again, taking more of

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because I've covered this team for a number of years

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when they were in the Mount West Conference and in

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the West Coast Conference where they were pretty much irrelevant

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the whole season in terms of a national presence just

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Speaker 5: Gonzaga was there.

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Speaker 6: Occasionally Byu'd win a decent game, but when it came

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down to it from the West Coast Conference specifically, they

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Speaker 5: Most years, Yeah, it just hadn't built.

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Speaker 6: That kind of resume to where even finishing as a

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runner up they would get in.

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Speaker 5: I saw that several times, So excuse me.

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Speaker 6: I would say that that the fact that BYU was

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in the next national prominence, especially in the non conference

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schedule when they were playing at Massius Square Garden against

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Yukon and all those games they played in the.

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Speaker 5: Conference season as well, big games against Houston and Arizona

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Speaker 6: I still feel like it was a successful season because

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they're putting things in place to be at national contender

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every year. It'd be great if they could do that,

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and they're trying to do that. And certainly the injuries

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derailed a lot of the depth and the shooting because

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those were wolf really big problems with this team late

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in the season. But I would still give them a

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good grade because they're making progress. This is so much

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better than having to sit through them playing San Diego

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and Pacific in Portland and just teams that are so

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irrelevant that if you lose to them, it's a shock

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you should beat them. They aren't in that situation now.

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and play every single night, and we saw them come

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out and have some really good wins. They did some

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good things this year in conference play. They played Airs

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on a tough couple of times. They beat Iowa State

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at home, they beat Texas Tech at home, So I

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Speaker 5: The expectations are what they were.

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Speaker 6: You know, most BYU fans and the national media expected

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them to be a contender and at least be a

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Sweet sixteen team, if not most people even talking about

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Final four. And if they were fully healthy, who knows

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what they might have done. I mean, you can just

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take a look at the team that b Way you

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lost to in the first round of the tournament. How

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did Sean Miller lose fourteen games with Texas?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's disappointed at they have no idea.

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Speaker 6: How do you take a team with a seventh floorder

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that's as good as that dude, with the kind of shooters,

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the kind of athleticism, and how do you lose fourteen games?

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I just the fact that they can turn it on

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in the tournament is pretty amazing to me that it

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Speaker 5: In this Sweek sixteen.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, so as far as Bway, he's concerned, Yeah, disappointing.

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Speaker 5: They didn't finish.

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Speaker 6: Out what we thought they were capable of. But I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be I think a lot of

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fans because of AJ and the talent and San Diego

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got top ten national championship now and maybe even you

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know the national media, and I get why, right, But

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that's what I said the lead eight. I just think

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it's so hard to get to a final four. I

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just think it is. I mean, you're seeing Rick Patino,

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tom Izzo, Curley, all of these older older coaches still

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get there right in the sweet sixteen. It's just it's tough.

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They've done it. They've exceeded all expectations in my opinion,

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with what has been placed upon them and with how

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people view things. But I just think as a whole,

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it's like, you got guys that have been doing this

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for years, double D years, Like Curley's been the head

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coach of Ukon for eight years, got two titles. I

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just I don't know, man, Like it's it's gonna take

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time before BUYU is able to get to that point.

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But I think they're on their way because what was

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the last time. I wait, then, that's never happened. Double

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D three five stars have committed to the program, and

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I believe Bruce branch will sign. He hasn't signed yet

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from what I've seen, but three five stars in the

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last three years.

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Speaker 4: You have to look at that.

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Speaker 3: Then you had the number one Juco, number one euro

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player and then the number one high school player.

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Speaker 4: That's progress in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're doing a good job.

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Speaker 6: And you know, it was interesting listening to Kevin Young

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after the loss and he was talking about how watching

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game video was painful at times as he kind of

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watching this team kind of you know, I mean, And

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he also said some things during the season. He said

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it several times that they were had to dumb down

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the defense, and I don't know if that's an indictment

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of the coaching scheme or if that's an indictment of

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the players they recruited. They have to say dumb down

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so much. I mean, it's they just didn't get defensively

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what they were and you do. Until they started to

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just make it very simple and just switch everything or

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just keep a guy in front of you, don't worry

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about the peel switch or whatever.

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Speaker 5: They were not having to worry about.

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Speaker 6: This coaching staff had a real challenge this year as

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they took guys who probably wouldn't have played a lot

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and started to have to play them, you know, they

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had to play.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Alexi coachters was ready.

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Speaker 6: He showed several times that he has the ability to

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shoot the ball my question, but the other parts of

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his game took a while to get going. And Den

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boops the same way. I mean, that guy's still so

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young in his basketball development. So I think this coaching

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staff has a real challenge, as all coaching staffs do,

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in building a roster and building it in a way

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that makes it successful. You know, I look at Nebraska's roster.

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Nebraska's in this week sixteen, it's a team by you

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played excuse me in the preseason and lost by one point.

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That roster makeup. They brought in some guys from different schools,

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but they also have six guys from Nebraska, and the

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roster they have several guys from surrounding states like Iowa

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and Minnesota, just small town guys they really want to

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win and are fundamentally sound, and they mixed it in

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with a couple of guys who are really talented, and

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they're in the sweet sixteen. I don't think that BYU

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coaches did a fantastic job of building this roster. I

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think there's some parts of it that just weren't clicking together.

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And maybe you don't know that until you bring them together.

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BYU team. That team probably wasn't as talented overall as

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this year's team, but they played well together, like the

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pieces fit together better. And that's the real challenge when

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you have transfer portal and you have the nil going on,

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You've got to find a way to put together a

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roster that works together. Not just the fifty most talented guys.

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You can find the guys that fit roles. And that's

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the big challenge for every college staff out there because

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they try to build.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta find rolls and obviously you bring up,

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you know, some of these guys and it's tough, right

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double B because I feel like down the stretch of

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the season, you saw a lot of good things from

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ALEXI coachch Kevin Jung says that he held Canard Davis

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Junior out. I thought Canard should have had the ball

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in his hand more at the start of the season

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when you saw his taper set. They're not gonna have

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him facilitating. I understood why he had Dawson Baker and

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they pickens. But I'm like, I feel like with Canard

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on the floor, that could take some pressure off. And

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you know that's not what they anticipated. But you have

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to wonder with what Canard it look. Look, I'm just

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gonna say it. I know no one wants to say it.

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I'll be the bad guy. I don't mind being bad,

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cop right. I had to tell me a little girl

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when she saw me she didn't want me leaving for

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work as she was pulling my leg and not wanting

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to go to mom. I don't mind being bad back, Coop.

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This roster's gonna look completely different next year.

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Speaker 4: It just will.

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Speaker 3: It's going to it has to, I think because Kevin

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said the shooting around Rob Right hinting at Rob Right

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coming back. Now we were told that by him that

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he's either it's BYU or pro.

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Speaker 4: There's no one between. So we will see.

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Speaker 3: But if that's the case of double D, I'm looking

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at this roster of guys that could come back and

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I don't know what I'm being honest, just off the

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top of my brain, thinking very fast, I think, Boop,

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because you've seen the development even though it took a year,

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but you saw what he was able to do. I

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look at Canard, how he had to step up down

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the stretch, and I look at Alexi.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, are those the only.

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Speaker 3: Guys besides obviously Dawson and Nate who want to come

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back in KG? You said it for the retchit I'm

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not talking about them. Tell my guys that played could

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those are those the only three guys that are a

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lot because everybody else pretty much up. Dominique Diomande posted

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something as well. It sounds like, you know, he could

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maybe be staying. How's this roster gonna look at your

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double D because they need shooting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really hard to say.

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Speaker 6: And the thing that Kevin Young mentioned was you know

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these guys have options as well. It's not nice thing

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is Kevin Young says, either you stay here go Some

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of these guys may say, you know what, I want

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to play, but I want to play for you know,

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a Division two school, or I want to go someplace

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where I can play thirty minutes a game, or you know,

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maybe maybe someone else has an offer to go play

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at a school near their home and they'd rather play

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in front of family and friends. Yeah, all these guys

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are gonna have options, and there's gonna be discussions for

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sure between the coaching staff and these players, and they'll

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decide what the best situation is. And Kevin Young already

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has talked about hitting the transfer portal and and it's

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kind of crazy, but you got to do it. And

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it's just, you know, put your nose to the grindstone

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and find out what you need and see what you

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can find.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna hit.

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Speaker 6: That portal, excuse me, and then they're going to have

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guys that are just going to be like, you know,

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I just think my opportunity is like better elsewhere. Yeah,

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you look at someone like Brodiy Kaslowski. I'd love for

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him to stay. I think he's really talented, but he's

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missed two seasons due to injury. Yeah does he does?

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He want to change the scenery just so he can

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kind of feel like he's not the same place where

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he's been heard twice, you know. So there's there's lots

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of changes I think in store. And as I go

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through the teams that b YU plays every year, I

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kind of take a look at the roster and see who.

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Speaker 5: Left and who's come back.

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Speaker 6: I still marvel at teams that put together, you know,

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twelve thirteen, fourteen new guys on our roster every year.

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Speaker 5: I just think that's so hard to sustain any.

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Speaker 6: Sort of functionality with that when you're having to basically

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reboot your roster every year. So I'm hoping that there's

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less movement than more because there are some young players

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that I think could be developed and should stay, but

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there's other players that maybe it's time for them to

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find another opportunity and maybe they want to. So that's

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all going to be determined in the next few months,

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and it's a huge job for the coaching staff, but

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there's definitely changes that are going to be taking place,

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no question.

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Speaker 3: Luck where we give constructive criticism and or objective here

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at ESP and the fan and on Cougar Sports, and

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some may like it some and I don't care. That's

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what our job is. That's all we're paid to do.

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The b too experiment yay or nay? Will he be

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on this roster next year?

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Speaker 6: So here's here's the thing about about Ahmed is he's

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a really young player. I mean, I know he played

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two years in the G League, but that's not like

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the same as old experience at all he has. He

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has a skill for blocking shots. He's not great defensively,

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he tends to get in foul trouble. He sets a

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lot of the legal screens this year he did and

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and he's also not much of an offensive threat.

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Speaker 5: So if you're counting on him to step.

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Speaker 6: Up and play a role such as what what kPa

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Kitty did, I don't think that's reasonable to expect if

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you want to keep him in your program and develop

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him as a tour of three as a backup. Sure,

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he's young, he can get better. I think that's that's

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a possibility. But I do think one area of real

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concern going into next year is finding some size and

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not I mean, Keba's great at six', eight but you

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got to get some six, ten six eleven seven foot

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guys to come in here and make a difference on the.

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Court and they didn't have that this, year And keba

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got hurt and he was not the same. Player there

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were there were times this last year and early in

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this season where after a, Game i'm, like the most

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influential player in that, game the guy Impacted, again most

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of Was kaba on both ends of the floor as a,

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defender as a, rebounder a shop, blocker as a, dunker

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and we just didn't see. That late in the season

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he shared occasionally where he could do, that but the

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consistency was no longer there and he's. Gone so now

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they have to come up with an idea how do

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we fortify our? Interior is Is bulow a? Piece he could,

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be but he's not going to be the guy that's

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stepping in as a. STARTER i don't think he's just

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not that ready.

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Speaker 5: Yet so if you ask me your, NAY i say.

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Speaker 6: Yay but being realistic about what he can possibly do

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in this program if he continues to, grow and then

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the fact that be where you need to go out

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and get some.

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Speaker 3: Size, yeah you're not, Wrong, ba he definitely needs to

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go out and get some.

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Speaker 4: Size So i'll ask you this.

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Speaker 3: QUESTION i know we got to get you out of here,

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soon But, fos if he had another, year definitely could

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have helped this. Team i'm looking at back to the,

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basket big or big that stretches the.

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Speaker 4: FLOOR i, Said Dallen.

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Speaker 3: HALL i know that we've talked off, record you, know

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in our little group chats about D hall could have

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helped this team And i'm actually as sending all takes On.

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Dallin i'm sorry THAT i made that, take you, know

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and at the moment we didn't, know and that's why

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the end of the, season you. Wait But i'm looking

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at it down the stretch Of texas With Volca titus

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and the words Of Charles, barkley theis The titus because

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he couldn't say his.

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Speaker 4: Name still Love Charles.

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Speaker 3: Barkley fus And Ali khalifa over the last couple of,

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Seasons i'm, like, man those guys could have Helped ali

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with his passion ability excuse, Me and they were stretching

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the floor shooting the, three and Then fus was a

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back to the basket.

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Speaker 4: BIG i feel like you can go to your.

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Speaker 3: Point Because Ali kalif was six ten six eleven And

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fus was dominant. Paint they're missing that type of. Player

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that's WHAT i, think what you're.

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Speaker 6: Describing, yeah and the thing About fos specifically and even.

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Speaker 5: Who girls we were just talking About.

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Speaker 6: Khalifa, yeah they provide a very different look for the

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defense when they come on the, floor like when WHEN

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byu even last, year there were a bunch of guys

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running around shooting the, ball shooting, threes you, know spreading the,

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floor and all of a, sudden you bring In fus

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and he's a back to the basket automatic score once

478
00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:45,200
he gets.

479
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 5: You on his. BACK i, mean the dude's really really.

480
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,319
Speaker 6: Good or Or, khalifa who is a high post wizard

481
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,599
as a. Passer when you give a defense a different,

482
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,799
look that causes them. Issues And Dawson baker would have

483
00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:00,200
been a similar type player in terms of when he

484
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:01,680
comes into the, game all of a, sudden you got

485
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,400
to defend differently because of how he attacks the, rim

486
00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:07,200
how he shoots. Threes and they didn't have, that so

487
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,400
they didn't have a lot of variety with their. Offense

488
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,119
they had Basically aj with the ball and all four

489
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440
other guys stand around watching. Him AND i even looked

490
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,279
this UP byu averaged thirteen point three assists per.

491
00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,799
Speaker 5: Game that's their lowest total in twenty one.

492
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 4: Years, WOW i didn't know that.

493
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 6: Twenty one years that they've averaged much better than. That

494
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,480
but that was because the kind of offense they ran

495
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,240
was put Bong age's, hand let him, work and that

496
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,160
kind of what they especially late this, season they had

497
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,759
that kind of depend on that BUT i think the

498
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,279
more variety you can put in your, offense the better

499
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,400
off you're going to be because the defense has to

500
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,480
make adjustments and you take advantage of areas where you're.

501
00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:49,960
Strong there were some games Where loose was not as,

502
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,240
effective but there are other games where definitely he was

503
00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:55,440
the guy that changed the game around because he came

504
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,559
in and all of a, sudden your low post guy

505
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,680
is going to the heart of the, basket freeing up other.

506
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,079
Guys so that's something that when they go out and

507
00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:05,119
look in the. Portal are they looking for a stretch for?

508
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,960
It you, know a six to eleven guy that shoot?

509
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,759
Threes are They there's lots of different kinds of guys

510
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,279
that you can. Get Isaac davis AT uvu was once

511
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:18,160
A BYU's. Gradar he had committed to, them and he's

512
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,279
a back to the basketball post. Guy maybe they go

513
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:22,799
after someone like. THAT i don't, know BUT i think,

514
00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:24,680
that LIKE i, said the more variety you get into your,

515
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160
offense the harder it is whether teams to defend. You

516
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,880
and this YEAR i THINK byu was way too easy to,

517
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,720
defend especially at crunch.

518
00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 3: Time, YEAH i, agree you bring up all good valid,

519
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,160
Points so let's finish with. This gotta gotta get you

520
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,039
out of. Here on a football, NOTE i know you

521
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,200
just got, back BUT i know you were still dialed

522
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,440
in paying. Attention you've probably seen the numbers for everything

523
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,279
that you're saying that you heard that you're right online

524
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who that could participate in THE Bau Football Pro day

525
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:54,759
as the best opportunity maybe to get their name called

526
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:56,240
during THE Nfl.

527
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: Draft there's a bunch of.

528
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Speaker 3: Guys people like What Mary bamba, did people Like Whatna

529
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,640
wall was able to put. Up but what are You

530
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,079
Chase roberts improved that forty times. Tremendously what say you DOUBLE? D?

531
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Speaker 6: YEAH i think there's there's plenty of guys that have

532
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,119
that opportunity to to.

533
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 5: Get a.

534
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 6: Chance and that's all you need is a. Chance you

535
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,960
need to get in the right. Situation you need to

536
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,720
you need to find a coach who believes in you

537
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,680
right and AND i think that there's plenty of. Guys you,

538
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,519
Know Jack, KELLY i think teams are gonna love him

539
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:32,839
as a as a. LINEBACKER i think he's got a

540
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,240
really good chance of making some headway and getting in

541
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,519
a good. Opportunity And Tanner wall is one of those

542
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:42,240
guys that you're gonna put in camp and you're going

543
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,480
to realize he's making every plays in the right spot every.

544
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,240
Time and those kind of guys catch the attention of

545
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,799
the position coaches and then they fight for him with

546
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:53,680
the head. Coach when they start looking at you, know

547
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,039
who do we?

548
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,039
Speaker 5: Keep who do we? Cut they're like That Tanner wall.

549
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,640
Dude you watch his. Film every single time he's in

550
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,160
the right he's making, plays he knows where to be

551
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,160
and and he's and he's more athletic.

552
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:06,319
Speaker 6: Than you think he is and all that kind of.

553
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,960
Stuff SO i Think Tanner wall was somebody that's good to.

554
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,839
Pray and you know somebody else that is kind of

555
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,880
popped up on the radar recently is is long Snapper Garrison.

556
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,400
Grimes oh, yeah really, good really good. Grades he might

557
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,480
have an opportunity to stick with. Somebody and and as

558
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,960
we've we've found out over the, years if you get

559
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000
yourself a good position as a long snapper, man that's

560
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,599
that's like one of the best gigs you can get

561
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,960
because you just get in, there you, know four or

562
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,079
five times a, game do your, job and get paid

563
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:32,400
a ton of.

564
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: Money don't talk to me about L. J. Martin don't

565
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720
talk to me about A Chase. Roberts don't talk to

566
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,119
me about A Tanner. Wall give Me Garrison, grimes give,

567
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me give me slave deep, cut give me will give

568
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me the specialist C ba you special. Teams it's the

569
00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:53,960
best group on the football. Tailor, look it's all jokes

570
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,319
and being tongue in, cheek But i'm being serious. Though Garrison,

571
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,279
grimes will Far Ryan, rico like all those guys want

572
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,039
to be in THE nfl active rosters.

573
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: Playing SO i think you bring up a great point

574
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,480
double d.

575
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 5: Well Thanks, RON i appreciate that of.

576
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,839
Speaker 3: Course, actually last thing BECAUSE i saw this, earlier uh you,

577
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,319
know On Twitter techniku or receiver FOR byu, football he

578
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had Posted Delaney gibb double double work Tonight boyomas basketball and.

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ACTION i believe you'll be down to what opportunity To

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Lady Koog's Lee kamar?

581
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Speaker 4: Squad what do they have in action? Tonight double d.

582
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 6: Well it's been a long time SINCE byu has won

583
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:33,599
multiple games in the, postseason and that's kind of what

584
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,119
they're looking.

585
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 5: At lee's done a great.

586
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 6: JOB i still feel like this team has a lot

587
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:42,079
of room to grow in terms of skill and how

588
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,240
they execute their their game, plan but their their. Effort

589
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,839
their efforts really. GOOD i, mean they play, hard they

590
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920
try to get it, done AND i think they've got

591
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240
some good pieces in. Place and when you have some

592
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,759
postseason success that that. Helps even if it's in the

593
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,559
W b I t Got missouri tonight out of THE

594
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,279
sec and you know they're they're finished kind of low

595
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:04,759
in the.

596
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 5: Total that's a really powerful.

597
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 6: Conference but being at home and having the opportunity to

598
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,079
play a couple more games at home before you might

599
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,160
get yourself in the final fourth or the b W

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B I.

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00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: T it's a great.

602
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 6: Opportunity and they want to keep playing together and that's

603
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,599
that's important that they have that that feeling for each

604
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,960
other and and doing Any gibb can can fill it.

605
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:26,839
Speaker 5: Up we know that for.

606
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 6: Sure and the other the other players on the team

607
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,920
that that are seniors are hoping to get one more

608
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:34,039
game in the.

609
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,799
Speaker 5: Uniform so it'll be it'll be.

610
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,279
Speaker 6: Good AND i don't know what kind of crowd they'll,

611
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,440
get but more basketball is always.

612
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,559
Speaker 3: Better more basketball is always better in, indeed uh correct?

613
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,319
Me if they win, this do they take off To

614
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,640
wichita for the? Quarterfinals or is it only the semi final.

615
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 5: And the, no they got one. MORE i think they'd

616
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:54,279
have one more game at.

617
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: Home it looks, Like, Okay stanford is who they'd play

618
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,359
if they were to.

619
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,079
Speaker 6: Win, Yeah stanford, Won, yes your, day so they'd Play.

620
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:03,960
Stanford it looks LIKE byu at host because they're the

621
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:05,160
number one, seed.

622
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,599
Speaker 3: So, hey look good for, them look an opportunity to

623
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,720
go to the quarterfinals and have a date With. Stanford

624
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480
B yu has had some success Against stanford in the

625
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,759
past on the men's, side and it happened on the

626
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:17,160
women's we'll find out, tonight DOUBLE.

627
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,039
Speaker 4: D BEFORE i let you.

628
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,559
Speaker 3: Go what's the best way we can support? You what you're,

629
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doing how you do?

630
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 6: It my Friend Harold extra dot com that's where all

631
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the stories go wrote To bunch and a couple of

632
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great stories ABOUT byu men's, basketball what's coming up next

633
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and kind of everything That Kevin young was thinking after.

634
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,799
Speaker 5: The, loss and and you know you're still if you're

635
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:39,519
still following the.

636
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: Tournament sweet sixteen mainly a bunch of blue, Bloods so

637
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640
maybe The sindrell story not quite what it has, been

638
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,279
but some, great great buzzer beaters going on in this

639
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,960
and some almost buzzer beaters with that That nebraska game as.

640
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, LOOK dmp went out in the round at third

641
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,519
to SO i guess you shouldn't have Chose. Kansas that's

642
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:05,039
ALL i have to say on. That you, KNOW i

643
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,160
guess the buzzer, beater you know From Saint. JOHN'S i

644
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680
guess he should have Chose Saint. John's he shouldn't have Chose.

645
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,200
KANSAS i don't know why he chose. Kids why did?

646
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: Why you?

647
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Know but, look sometimes people say stuff that they don't even.

648
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,119
Believe that's All i'm gonna, Say, Darnell we'll let you

649
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go on, that.

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 5: All, right, man thanks for running to see you.

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711
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,160
that's what you. Do it's what YOU i, mean you're

712
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,400
still doing your own combines on. Occasion so you know

713
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,920
when you're when you're evaluating you know these pro day

714
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:20,359
numbers and these, uh these combine. Numbers you, know how

715
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:22,599
do you approach it right as a as a football?

716
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,559
Player and what role does the combine and PRO da

717
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,559
play in draft slots or even undrafted free agent?

718
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,759
Speaker 9: Opportunities, yeah, well the first thing you look at is

719
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,920
you got to look at the players, productivity.

720
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 7: And then from there you either the way.

721
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,279
Speaker 9: That the PRO da numbers fit into, it it either

722
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,440
validates how they're, productive sometimes it doesn't validate, it and

723
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,119
then you kind of have to look deeper as through

724
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:54,000
how they were so successful or the other side of

725
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,160
the cone is guys that maybe weren't as successful on

726
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,039
the field as you would expect based off of the.

727
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 7: Numbers you then dig.

728
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,799
Speaker 9: A little deeper and you come to find out other.

729
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,359
Things you wonder if they're, hurt maybe it's a scheme,

730
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400
fit maybe they're just doing the. Position they just didn't

731
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,559
get their. Opportunity but there are for surely numbers that

732
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,880
are hint in a pro day or in the combine

733
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,039
that will get you into, camp maybe even get you

734
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,839
drafted if it's you, know at a position Like mamba

735
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,079
is one that's very interesting because of his speed AND

736
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,559
i mean he did have that phenomenal.

737
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,279
Speaker 7: Big play Against.

738
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:29,559
Speaker 9: Utah if you guys remember when they're driving DOWN i

739
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,359
think it was the first drive of the, game fly

740
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:35,079
sweep fourth and one and And mamba was running with

741
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,000
the the fly sweep guy the whole way and blasted

742
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:39,640
him for loss and we got the ball back and

743
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,880
it was a huge play in the. Game so you

744
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920
look at that and you're, like, oh, okay well that makes.

745
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Sense you, know he has the ability to then use.

746
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: That on the.

747
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 9: Field and then you look at him and coverage and

748
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,599
his size and his. Length there's a lot to work

749
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,680
with there and physical attributes that are very difficult to,

750
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,400
find especially combination, length.

751
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 7: Speed so that's. It that's kind of how it's looked.

752
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,079
At it's gonna.

753
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,799
Speaker 9: Be it's not the end all be, all but man

754
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,920
for surely can't create more, studying more, searching more intrigue

755
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,400
about a, Player and LIKE i, said it can lead

756
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,440
that team to the point, like, oh this guy is,

757
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:17,559
rare we need to get.

758
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 7: Him let's bring him. In and then another end of the,

759
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,199
coin it can be just a.

760
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 9: Validator it's, like, yeah that's what we. Saw we saw you,

761
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Know Carson, ryant he was he was guy at good

762
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,400
separation in his routes you, know or what have you

763
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,519
and so uh and then you, know you look at you,

764
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:38,440
know other other positions where guys maybe you're not you,

765
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960
know you're you're looking at him Like, tanner you, know

766
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,280
you're looking at a guy that's he covers the, field

767
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,639
sidelines to sideline middle of the.

768
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 7: FIELD i mean the guy played with middlefield.

769
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,159
Speaker 9: Safety Is Nick collins here in a four three, forty you,

770
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,280
know and it kind of makes. Sense you, know you

771
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Got tanner running the four or five.

772
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 7: And you're, like, oh how does he do?

773
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 9: That and then if it's just you, know intellect and

774
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,199
breathing and understanding route, combinations that's also very telling because you're, like,

775
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,199
okay well that means.

776
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 7: That. Yeah and by the, way there's a lot of

777
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,679
free safeties that are not forty.

778
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,519
Speaker 9: Fast but they very well can they're dialing into the rout, progressions,

779
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:15,760
coverages how they, fit quarterback, tendancies, film you, know they

780
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,800
do other things that make up for you, know maybe

781
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480
not a fast forty time which are it's just a

782
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:20,440
valuable because at.

783
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,639
Speaker 7: The end of the, day it's about making plays.

784
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,039
Speaker 9: Right and so it's an, interesting you know process because

785
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:27,480
a lot of people get really excited about. Numbers sometimes

786
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,880
you go out and you maybe, think, OH i didn't

787
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,119
have good as NUMBERS i. Wanted but at the end

788
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,039
of it, all it's all about does it translate to

789
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,239
Playing and you got to do your best as a

790
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,400
prospect to help these scouts and these talented ealuators the

791
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,199
best you can help make that.

792
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,599
Speaker 2: Connection so give me a little breakdown of how they're

793
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,000
going to View Tanner. Wall he was A big Twelve

794
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:53,559
All big twelve, player multi year starter test pretty. Well

795
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:57,239
it doesn't have the forty, time but every OTHER i think.

796
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,960
Drill he looked really good in pro, agility three cone and.

797
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,320
Vertical he's. Explosive how is he gonna be evaluated By

798
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,119
and he's a missionary, too and he's a he's A

799
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,320
caucasian defensive. BACK i mean he's he's listed as a free,

800
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,440
safety strong. SAFETY i, mean, look what's upon a Time

801
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:20,480
Danny sorenson had had a fantastic combine all things, considered

802
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,480
he was on drafted free, agent played ten years in the.

803
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 9: League, WELL i think they look at him as probably

804
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,119
the same because you never remember that it's not it's

805
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,880
not really where he gets slotted and drafted in a

806
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,559
lot of teams for every, team they're trying to get

807
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,360
guys as cheap as you, can, right they want don't

808
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,840
want to like if if they don't have to draft

809
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,039
ten or nobody's gonna draft.

810
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,119
Speaker 2: Him, yeah you.

811
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,119
Speaker 7: Know WHAT i mean by, That like that's that's The.

812
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 9: Machita but but like you just proved With, daniel that

813
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,119
doesn't mean that they don't think he could be a successful.

814
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,599
Player as a matter of, fact the best talent evaluators

815
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,679
in THE, Nfl Bill belichick fits this.

816
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,679
Speaker 7: One Uh my Guy Ted thompson with The Green Bay

817
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,400
packer fits. This John sney with The Seattle seahawks fits this.

818
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,119
Speaker 9: Mold and they just look at draft as a medium draft,

819
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,239
pick as a medium of.

820
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,639
Speaker 7: Exchange that's. It they don't look at it, like, oh

821
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:12,400
the HIGHER i.

822
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,159
Speaker 9: Draft a, guy the MORE i expect him to be

823
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,880
a pro bowler or.

824
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 7: WHATEVER i.

825
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 9: Mean it's, ideal but in reality it's it's, Actually, okay

826
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:21,920
this is the player we.

827
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,519
Speaker 7: Want this is how we value, him this is how

828
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:26,800
we think other teams value.

829
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,559
Speaker 9: Him, okay the cost of getting him that equals a

830
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,639
first Round, okay we bring him.

831
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,679
Speaker 7: In you, Know and Like, TANNER i would.

832
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,639
Speaker 9: Imagine that they're, thinking, well most teams probably aren't going

833
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,119
to draft, him so that means we're gonna come with

834
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:42,239
a lot of money in free agent, market whatever that money.

835
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:42,559
Speaker 5: Is you.

836
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 9: Know, again it's gonna be the bigting, war and we're

837
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920
gonna get him in. Here as a free agent because

838
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,800
we feel like nobody else is gonna take meta draft.

839
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,639
Pick but we believe whether it's a free agent or

840
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,679
a first round or in these guys and we believe

841
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,039
that they have equal amount of. Opportunities for, sure it's

842
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,639
gonna be more with the first, rounder but still from

843
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,840
a on evaluator's, perspective it's looked at is, like these

844
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,480
guys are our, contributors and we're gonna give him.

845
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 7: Every chance to.

846
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,119
Speaker 9: Contribute that's how these guys are looking at because that's

847
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,559
how much most the good, ones that's how much they

848
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:16,480
value their evaluating issue they're evaluating skills of players coming

849
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,000
in is they value them so much that everybody they

850
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,039
bring in they can see a future with that. Player

851
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:23,639
but then now that player has to go out, deliver

852
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000
and if that player, does he's gonna be sticking. Around they're,

853
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:30,000
gonna you, know give him opportunities such as rep game, time,

854
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,440
reps gonna get him into the, rotation and all of a,

855
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,800
sudden you see the. Job you, know undrafted guys playing

856
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,719
and they're playing for a long. Time because again it's

857
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,920
not a the draft. Pick people he'd getting. Confused the

858
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,079
pick itself is not what the team is predicting as

859
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,079
to what your future.

860
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 7: Is absolutely there is some of, that but not.

861
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 9: Absolutely it's mostly a medium of exchange as to what

862
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,559
they feel like it's going to cost them to acquire your.

863
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: Talents Is mariy bomb but you mentioned him a few.

864
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Times is he the Next Mike? Davis the guy that

865
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,280
goes undrafted and stays in the league for you, know six,

866
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,840
seven eight?

867
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,679
Speaker 9: Years, MAN i mean That that's exactly WHAT i thought

868
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,960
of when he ran that, Time because, MAN i DON'T

869
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,360
i don't care if.

870
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,079
Speaker 7: That's at a pro, day you, know. Wherever that's a

871
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:19,920
heck of a fast.

872
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 9: Guy, yeah you, Know and and then you combine that

873
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,239
with his physicality is length that's not.

874
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,199
Speaker 7: COMMON i. DON'T i would not be. Surprised i'm not

875
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,559
predicting it BECAUSE.

876
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 9: I think the teams are all kind of locked into

877
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:34,320
the same mentality they won him as a free, agent

878
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:39,039
because there is some, unknowns as is his coverage, technique

879
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,119
how how solid that, is how how much he can

880
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:42,840
translate the mentality of A dB those.

881
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,039
Speaker 7: Teams BUT i think he has the tools to make it.

882
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 9: Happen BUT i would not be surprised to see him

883
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,559
get drafted after, that just because of how rare that.

884
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,480
Is to find a guy with that speed to size

885
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,440
combination is just so, rare and you.

886
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 7: Can't really teach, it you. Know it's like we could

887
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,679
teach him at a you, know, drap you, know chop

888
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,880
at the.

889
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 9: Corner we can teach him how to you, know press,

890
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,280
man we can teach him do all this, stuff, which

891
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,559
by the, WAY i mean that's PROBABLY i, mean press

892
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,119
man is you know what he did to by you

893
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,480
and and a lot of teams are gonna be, like,

894
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,639
yeah we saw potential of, that SO i would have

895
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,519
be done LIKE i would not based on that Forty

896
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:17,719
it would not be shocked to see him get drafted.

897
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: So late rounds, though you think five six seven type

898
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,039
of deal because of that high oh, yeah side.

899
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, well so you gotta remember, too a lot of

900
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,840
THESE i, mean these guys want to keep their jobs,

901
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,840
too remember. That, Okay so there's a there's So So

902
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,320
i'm trying To What i'm trying to do is help

903
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360
help the listeners understand.

904
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 7: The mentality of these decision.

905
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 9: Makers the first mentality is we look at draft picks

906
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:43,480
as a monetary.

907
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 7: System what does it take to get the player into our.

908
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,199
Speaker 9: Building even though we may value a guy as much

909
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:49,639
as some other teams value first.

910
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 7: Rounds that's like what people don't.

911
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 9: Get the second thing is is that if a guy

912
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,440
has looked at as kind of this like a mamba,

913
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,920
guy BECAUSE i would say he's not polished enough technique

914
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,400
wise to where they're gonna draft him to in a

915
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,840
slot that would be justifiable for like a starting caliber

916
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,400
dad like and that's first or fourth, round because what

917
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360
happens is is there's too much of a downside if

918
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,719
he comes in and all of a sudden he doesn't pan.

919
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 7: Out you really looked at as a time. Evaluator that's

920
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,800
a bad look for. You like.

921
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 9: That that doesn't get you, fired but it for surely

922
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:30,360
starts to build the buzz around what is this guy?

923
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,719
Doing and then all of a sudden everything you start

924
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,360
doing becomes, extraly you, know extra. Scrutinized so, yeah the conservative,

925
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,079
APPROACH i would the highest sight see a guy that

926
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,760
came going unless you HAVE i, mean The cowboys could

927
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,280
be one of those teams that they just play with

928
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,159
house money because they don't. Care Because Jerry jones is

929
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,639
running of the fantasy football.

930
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 7: Team RIGHT.

931
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 9: I could see them pulling the trigger off third, round you,

932
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,519
Know but teams that have hired personnel departments that are

933
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,920
trying to prove themselves and really get a footing in

934
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,960
that world of player, acquisition they aren't gonna take a

935
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,360
huge chance in him because the downside of him not

936
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,000
pounding out just hurts their career too.

937
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:11,559
Speaker 7: Much and so there's not gonna be plenty Is there's

938
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:12,039
not gonna be.

939
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 9: A lot of teams looking to take him like that

940
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,559
to take that. Risk so for sure they fit through seventh,

941
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,079
round but be probably his landing spot if he gets.

942
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,519
Drafted if he, Doesn't i'm gonna tell him. Ten those

943
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,559
guys are gonna they're going to attract high, dollars which

944
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:31,079
probably would be equivalent to getting drafted in the sixth

945
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,480
or seventh round in the free agent, market and then

946
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,679
they get the extra bonus of choosing the.

947
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Team, yeah and, UH i Think Carson bryan's an interesting

948
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480
prospect as. Well you wonder with His he had a

949
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:48,039
great overall performance from WHAT i, saw three cone one

950
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:51,119
of the best shuttle four to two to two and

951
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,480
a solid forty time two coming in around that that

952
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,280
high four to, six low four seven. Number he's got

953
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,800
a good build to, him pretty good explosives at thirty

954
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,599
thirty three and a half inch, vertical a nine to

955
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:05,440
seven broad and bench of twenty. Three what what do

956
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,719
you expect From? Carson and did he improve his? Stock?

957
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 9: YEAH i, MEAN i think a lot of our guys

958
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,320
are in, that you, know free agent six seventh, round

959
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,360
AND i WOULD i, mean with the money they're throwing

960
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,280
out these free agents right, Now i'd almost think it's

961
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,639
better to be a free agent to choose your your landing.

962
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 7: Spot BUT i think he's in that same same, spot you,

963
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,519
know to to really.

964
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 9: As a tight, end be a guy that they're, like,

965
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,400
hey we're going to draft you in the top four.

966
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 7: Rounds you know.

967
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 9: What we what we needed to see out of him was, more,

968
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,199
hey if you're going to man us, up you don't

969
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,039
have a chance kind of, situation you know What i'm, Saying,

970
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,199
like you can't like you the guys that they're going

971
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,199
to be for surely getting, drafted the guys that were

972
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,079
nightmare matchup wise in uh in. Coverage you, know that's

973
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,559
just the nature of you, know the, game you, know

974
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:56,039
AND i DON'T i wouldn't say that he showed enough

975
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,320
of that to where you're, like, yeah you, know he's

976
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800
he's gonna get draft top four outs because his, NUMBERS

977
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,079
i would say justify him being drafted top four, rounds.

978
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,320
Right but the main thing that comes down to is

979
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,840
the fact that in his, plane he didn't really establish

980
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400
himself as this this mismatched nightmare of teams just couldn't

981
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,159
figure out how to match The. Bob you, know he

982
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,320
got deeped up pretty good with some. Backers, now, yeah

983
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,760
he will loose and he had some good plays and

984
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,039
he should be proud of, that no, question but that

985
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,400
that doesn't move the needle enough to a team in my,

986
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,519
opinions could be, like oh, god we.

987
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 7: Got to get him in the top four.

988
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,559
Speaker 9: Rounds, yeah you, Know, now if you want to see the,

989
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:33,480
comparison you know you turned To Jack. Kelly See Jack

990
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,480
kelly is the guy, that, yeah you, know they look

991
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,119
at and they're, like we've seen him already do what

992
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,599
we feel like translates to our. Level that means he's

993
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,159
he's immediately can be used and the downside of taking

994
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,360
him those top four rounds is minimized.

995
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 7: Because we can see.

996
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,679
Speaker 9: It it's very evident he can rush the pass, or

997
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,119
he can move in. Space he's, physical he can you,

998
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,480
know hit, gaps he can diagnose the running, play he

999
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,639
can run with running, backs he can run with tight,

1000
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,639
ends you, know all that Stuff Jack kelly. Showed and

1001
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,679
so that's why the team's, like, yeah that's that's easier

1002
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:08,719
for us to see the translation, because LIKE i, said

1003
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
and that's really what it comes down, to what your

1004
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:13,679
value is coming out of college is how easy can

1005
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,800
a team see you fit in their scheme and be

1006
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,119
successful at the next. Level and, that's LIKE i, said

1007
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,119
that's why it's always incumbent on the player to help

1008
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:23,280
these guys as much as possible because they just don't

1009
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,039
have enough. Resources so the message to all these other

1010
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:29,960
guys Like carson And tanner And, mambas hey help them,

1011
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,519
out you, know and if they don't see it right,

1012
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:35,199
now then go show it to them and they they'll

1013
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:35,760
compensate you.

1014
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,519
Speaker 2: Accordingly brad vipinga here on YOUR UTAI espn radio, network

1015
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,480
a little keeping up with The cougar's talking Some cougar

1016
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,119
football as well AS Byu. Prota Chase roberts. Improved he's

1017
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:48,360
forty time ends up running a four five. ONE i

1018
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,639
think he improved his twenty yard shuttle as well for

1019
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,679
two eight and then a three coat of six' nine

1020
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,639
six point nine zero at his height. HIS weight i

1021
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:59,400
think those are. Impressive numbers why is it that there's

1022
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,360
always a repency between combined forties AND pro? Da forties

1023
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,199
typically it's about a. Tenth off it seems a tenth

1024
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,400
slower at the combine comparative to the.

1025
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,199
Speaker 9: Pro day that's a, GOOD one, i mean, just sir,

1026
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,400
YOU know i mean we all know the famous downhill

1027
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,960
track that we had on the.

1028
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 7: Old turf do you remember that, back then back of.

1029
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,079
Speaker 2: The, day yeah the run. THAT down I know solberg

1030
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:25,800
got to run on. THAT one i think he set

1031
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,119
a record that that year on.

1032
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 5: That.

1033
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 9: Thing yeah and finally one of the scouts.

1034
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 7: GOT down i don't know if he got down on

1035
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,599
all fours or.

1036
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,639
Speaker 9: The stomach what he looked at, is, like way this,

1037
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,480
is downhill, You Know, coach oman this whole time been

1038
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:40,920
running so and that's not new by, the Way Like

1039
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,480
OHIO state usc they would run on track.

1040
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 7: With, spikes yeah.

1041
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 9: You know so the there's that element of the actual

1042
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,000
track that you're running on is just by nature because

1043
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,480
it's maybe tilted one or whatever it is faster. Right

1044
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:59,039
now the other element is a. Comfort level, you know

1045
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,480
when you're at your, own space you're you're on the

1046
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,679
field that you've trained on, for years you're around, your

1047
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,199
people it's in the middle of, the afternoon you haven't

1048
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,519
been put through all these different interviews and tests and.

1049
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:14,280
Stress points that's just gonna be a situation where there's

1050
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,280
a higher probability of high, level performance. You know and

1051
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:19,480
that's and that's. By design that's why the combine is

1052
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,320
set up the way. IT is, i Think like i've

1053
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,320
mentioned on the air with, YOU before i do believe

1054
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,360
they soften that a little bit because they do want

1055
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,039
to see guys run faster because that means that that

1056
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:32,239
more guys are going to participate at the combine in in.

1057
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,320
Their environment and that's what these teams. Like deal they

1058
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,599
want To see they want to see you in their

1059
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,880
environment under their kind of pressure points and see how.

1060
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,559
You respond, BUT yeah, I think i mean it's a

1061
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,039
it's a, good thing. YOU know i, don't THINK like,

1062
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,880
i Said, with chase it's gonna go drastically change. HIS

1063
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,719
stock i still look at he's in The SAME but

1064
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,840
i think those other guys were, he's, sixth seventh, you

1065
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,079
know round, or fifth maybe fifth again with his his

1066
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,719
inconsistency of being an absolute just, matchup nightmare because he could.

1067
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,199
Have been, YOU know I think i think you showed

1068
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:04,079
but nominal flashes of, hands time, you know the back,

1069
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,679
shoulder stuff jumping over smaller receivers like he Did.

1070
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 7: Against utah, you know we'll see how much these teams

1071
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,840
hold his hamstring, against him which some will.

1072
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,119
Speaker 9: Some will, we'll, say hey you either play healthier or

1073
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:17,920
we're gonna evaluate you like you, are healthy and if

1074
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,800
you have, your hamstring we're gonna look at you like you're,

1075
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,519
you're healthy and if you're, you're limited then.

1076
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 7: That's that's, on you you KNOW what, I mean that's

1077
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,880
just how these.

1078
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,559
Speaker 9: Teams are but that's OKAY because I think i think

1079
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,360
he fits the MOLD and I think carson's the same

1080
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,440
way OF what nfl teams are.

1081
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 7: Looking for AND like, i said the draft, PICK.

1082
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:37,559
Speaker 9: Again i don't think people should get too caught up

1083
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,280
with it because that's just the medium. Of exchange. YOU

1084
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,639
know i can see both of, those guys all these

1085
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,480
guys that, we have, you KNOW, even jt, you know

1086
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:50,400
getting in there and really just making, it happen whether

1087
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,639
he's drafted, or not just getting. In there AND, because jt,

1088
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,679
you know at times last year was our best defensive.

1089
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 7: FRONT guy, i mean he had moments where he just

1090
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,719
took the, game over, You KNOW and i think that's

1091
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,280
that's a guy.

1092
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 9: RIGHT there i think if if THERE'S anybody i would,

1093
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,760
Have like i'd bet on that he gets he gets

1094
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,280
valued higher than. Everybody thinks he would be the guy

1095
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,719
because they're they're highly valued, position, interior noseguards.

1096
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,679
Speaker 7: Three techniques he's showing, tremendous growth.

1097
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 9: Like he's on a really, you know his curve is

1098
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,119
steep and uh and then he, you know he tested

1099
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:25,519
well considering how his size and, SO yeah I mean

1100
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:28,239
i see that a lot of these guys to where

1101
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,840
it's like just they just need to get in, the camp,

1102
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,519
get new, good situation and just get. To WORK and,

1103
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:35,159
i think, you know if they if they showed the

1104
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,920
same kind of growth and attitude that they show TO

1105
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,880
b yu and they're able to capture, that play which.

1106
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,639
Is hard it's hard to capture that because plenty is,

1107
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,960
you know in that staff just they create such a

1108
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,239
fun environment plan a lot of coaches don't believe in

1109
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,800
that a lot of coaches are the opposite when they

1110
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,599
want to make it a common suffering to where everybody

1111
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,440
has to bomb, through suffering and it's kind.

1112
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,199
Speaker 7: Of annoying.

1113
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,199
Speaker 9: You know, it's, like man he went from a place

1114
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,039
where it's like the environment was conducive to be fun,

1115
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,519
and loose and now it's like you have to you

1116
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,480
have to find, a place a happy place within yourself

1117
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,519
that's completely separate from the environment because they want to

1118
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,639
make it hell and they want to see guys who

1119
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:13,920
are going to respond because they feel like that that

1120
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,039
kind of is the filter of who's going to rise

1121
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,039
and be the tough guys and who they're gonna get.

1122
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,559
Rid of you know that's hard for, some people but

1123
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,199
all of them. Are, capable man all of them are

1124
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,639
really good football players test. The world they, try hard they,

1125
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:26,920
work hard, And Man i'm.

1126
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,079
Speaker 7: I'm excited to see what comes of IT, because I like,

1127
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:29,599
I said i.

1128
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:32,119
Speaker 9: Can see all these guys just getting in the, right

1129
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:37,639
position right situation and just, bohm exploding, being starters, you

1130
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:40,119
know being Like A daniel sorenson's that's around for ten.

1131
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:42,599
Speaker 2: FIFTEEN years i think it's interesting you BROUGHT, up jt

1132
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,599
BECAUSE as i look at the list of guys that

1133
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,159
aren't like the, draftable prospects they're more of the maybe

1134
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,400
laid round or undrafted. FREE agent i feel like from

1135
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,079
a football, player standpoint and maybe even a, twitch standpoint Actually,

1136
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:57,199
LOW ki I Like. Austin laussa he's kind of a,

1137
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,920
versatile kid a versatile athlete like guard to maybe even

1138
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,320
put him. At center he tested out extremely, well TOO

1139
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,000
so i think that'll bode well. FOR him i don't

1140
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:09,519
know what his arm, length IS but i think his

1141
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,920
hands are pretty big and pretty good arm. Length ANYWAY,

1142
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,800
but jt for as a football player, and twitchy he

1143
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,360
kind of reminds Me Of travis tweeloma back in, his

1144
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,440
prime kind of like a little baby. Silver BACK and

1145
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,920
i thought he tests OUT why i hope he finds

1146
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,679
a spot, as like what do you think he's more

1147
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,239
like a? Three tech is he a? Five tech what

1148
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,679
do you see?

1149
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 7: Him?

1150
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,079
Speaker 9: As, no no he was very good at anywhere from

1151
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:38,039
three to one no meaning, nos, three, two zero you.

1152
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 7: Know knows out. To three and those guys are so

1153
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,039
hard to find and they set.

1154
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 9: Your defense and THAT'S why, i mean if you're going

1155
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:46,400
to overdraft on a guy to you overdraft on those,

1156
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,480
guys because by, the way, guess why they're easier, To

1157
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,119
hide they're easier to kind. Of fit they don't. Pan

1158
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,079
out it's like they're kind of in. The mix they

1159
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,440
don't get a lot. Of, stats ANYWAY a dB is

1160
00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:00,639
highly risky because they're always on an island and if, they're,

1161
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,440
struggling man, everybody, Knows right SO if i was going

1162
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,079
to bet on a guy that gets picked hire or,

1163
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,760
maybe go, you know gets paid more than the free

1164
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,480
agent market than maybe some, had thought IT'D be jt

1165
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,519
because if it's the mold of a, premium position someone

1166
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:17,400
that you, can hide meaning it's a little less risky

1167
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,880
for these guys the.

1168
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,199
Speaker 7: Town evaluators and then he's on a really.

1169
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: Nice, track brady, REAL quick i know you love talking ball,

1170
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,199
with us but you do a lot during the day

1171
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:34,639
for your, company health, human performance. Fitness company you guys

1172
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,639
do it all over there building. Out gyms for those

1173
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:39,559
that are listening right now that are looking to build

1174
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:41,440
out a gym in their corporate space or at, their

1175
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,920
home best way to contact you and what are some

1176
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of the products and services you offer to.

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Speaker 9: Our, listeners Yeah so we're a full service fitness equipment

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manufacturing brand where we. Offer service we offer like, you

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mentioned designing, gym space we implement all, the design we

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represent high level strength, and cardio and then we have

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the best prices because we don't work, with dealers we're

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always direct to, the consumers so we offer. Wholesale pricing

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we've had two really, good contacts by, the way come from,

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this show and One Is flying pickle up In, The boise.

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Idaho area they have a couple. Of locations we just

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did an installation with them a couple of weeks ago

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with a brand, new facility beautiful fitness center and the

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truck ranch Owned By jaden wagner Up In, west jordan

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a phenomenal facility, there too which is, you know it's

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good for. Their employees i'm not sure if a customer

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can go access, those imensities but for the employees.

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Speaker 7: For sure it's a really.

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Speaker 9: Nice operation and it was really a pleasure to work

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with both of those places because it just started out

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with the. Design face, you know we started out that

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the design phase took their space and we're able to

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create what.

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Speaker 7: They wanted and that's what we can do.

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Speaker 9: For everyone it doesn't matter if it's a big gym

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like THESE two i, just mentioned or if it's a.

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Home space we can take that space and converted into

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your dream fitness space to we're able to achieve, your

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goals stay consistent with, your workout to feel that you want. To,

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be uh look how you want to be and we're

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all we're all. About it so you could contact me

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directly AT eight o one three six eight ONE win.

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Speaker 7: O two. That's aight oh one three six eight.

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Speaker 9: One two it's my direct cell phone number if you

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want to talk A little byu football in.

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Speaker 7: The Process and i'm all for. That TOO so a

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one three six eight ONE whin. O two looking forward

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to hear.

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Speaker 2: From, you yeah one last thing be Bop camp koalani.

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Still underway we're getting towards the end of. Spring ball

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would have been. The storylines you've both been most intrigued

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by players that have stood out to you. Thus far, Oh.

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Speaker 9: Yeah bear's Good because bear has been very, very comfortable

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like he is on it, man like he gets the ball,

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Out quick he understands what the defense is doing. Very

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quickly he presses all the defense's hot buttons in terms

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of what's the weakness is he changes plays at the.

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UNDER scrimmagine i think he was doing that, last year by,

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The way but but you just see a comfort level

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with him that's so impressive because at first LAST year

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i saw a flash of that in his first practice

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because it was the. Basic install but then as they

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can't of install more, and more you can see him

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with the old paralysis by. Over analysis and then during

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the season you just saw this kind of, You know

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roderick just trickling information to him as.

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Speaker 7: He felt more and. More comfortable and Then By texas

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tech And Then.

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Speaker 9: Georgia, tech wow those, two games by, The Way and

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i've said this on, there BEFORE maybe, i DID maybe i,

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stoped SOMEBODY but I just i really am excited for

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people to see when we played Teams Like texas tech again,

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next year and we'll play some elite teams you told

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you want with bear, fully healthy fully comfortable in, This

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offense it's gonna be a fun thing.

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Speaker 7: To see i'm just gonna.

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Speaker 9: Tell you, right now because we saw in that, FIRST

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drive i want everybody to Know That texas tech had

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their hands on their hips looking at, each, other going

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we cannot stop, this guy and.

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Speaker 7: Lo behold, you know he hurts his antkle and all

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of a sudden it just.

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Speaker 9: Got difficult but he learned new information in That game

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bear did and then he applied It Again georgia tech

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when he still could have Moved And georgia tech was

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thrown all the blitzes at him that. He could now

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that he's back, to one he gained all that. New

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information That's what. I'm seeing i'm seeing like a veteran

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quarterback that's only.

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Speaker 7: A sophomore.

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Speaker 2: Pretty crazy see how far he's gone just. Within stars oh.

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Speaker 9: My gosh and the thing is, he's huge, you know

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like and he's not he's not a guy WELL that's

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i mean because if, his size a lot of people

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have seen, his number they see him know he's. A,

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runner no this guy can literally sit in the pocket

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and pick, you apart and then all of a sudden

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sit in the pocket and once you're, you know if

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you've got, everything covered he.

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Speaker 7: Can break contain or break through.

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Speaker 9: The middle of the pocket and all of, a sudden

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now you're dealing with a three hundred earth two hundred

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and thirty five maybe probably two hundred and fifty pounds

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running back that's got some momentum builds up that can run,

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you over make.

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Speaker 7: YOU miss, i mean it's it's a.

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Speaker 9: Beautiful THING it'ssy i really don't know if we've seen anyone,

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Like Him.

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Speaker 7: And i'm not trying to.

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Speaker 9: Overhype him i'm always trying to think. Of comps, You

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know taysom is a good Comp but taysom. COULDN'T throw,

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i Mean he taysom throws. THE ball, i, thought well

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but he's not at. This level this is a level

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of throwing and running that and the running isn't the

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streaky running like we see With A lamar jackson or,

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you know like even you'll See That patch Mahomes And aaron.

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Rodgers do this is, a, big physical wear you.

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Speaker 7: DOWN runner i don't know if we've seen anything. Like

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it it's a very.

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Speaker 9: Fascinating Combination and roderick's done a nice job building. Him

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up then he's done a nice, job responding and it's

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just like to see him. THAT comfortable, i mean he's hard.

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Speaker 7: To.

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Speaker 9: Defend man To ask kelly when you get him on

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again and say what's it been like With defending Bear,

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To spring kelly, was like it's not. Been easy he

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KEEPS reading, i Mean because kelly's got a lot of

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really good deceptive, you know coverages and how they rotate

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the safeties and you don't know what's coming until the

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after the, ball snapped and it does not seem to.

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Speaker 7: Bother bear and then if, You show i'm telling you

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you show.

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Speaker 5: Too quick.

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Speaker 7: IT'S over i mean it. Is over it's like.

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Speaker 9: It's done he knows what. You're doing he's, gonna adjust

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he's gonna make make. You pay it's like the the

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blitz counts, for nothing kind of what he did Look Against.

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Georgia tech so.

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Speaker 7: It's fun it's. It's fun we just, got to, you

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know hopefully keep him healthy and keep.

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Speaker 2: Him Growing, Brady papinga ladies, And, gentlemen brady always, a

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pleasure always, a blessing talking ball. With you thanks for.

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On today always.

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