WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.200 I spy with my electronic eye, illegal wagering. Hey, weren't 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:07.440 these cameras installed to keep America's enemies from blowing up 3 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:09.880 on homeland? Well, sir, how many times have you been 4 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:11.640 blown up since the cameras went in? 5 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:17.559 Zero times? Now I'm gonna go. Do you give the 6 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:18.079 money back? 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.079 All right? All right? 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:52.399 Four finger discount Ude, welcome two four finger discount. Where 9 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.600 this week we're going to be surveilling you all out there. 10 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.439 We're actually watching you. You're not just listening to us, 11 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.280 you're listening. We're watching. I'm dando you may even be watching. 12 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.759 Are we doing it with love? Though? With always? With love? Always? 13 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.599 We lead with love on the full finger of this gap. 14 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.239 And those of you out there listening right now who 15 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:10.239 have paid to hear this early, we love you e 16 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.599 them more. We've got a lot of love. But yeah, 17 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:15.840 if you're you get upper to your love, we could 18 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:17.359 we could do with it some more love here full 19 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.760 think of this gap? Sure man? Yeah, well love the better. 20 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:21.599 But yeah, to surveil with love an episode that guy 21 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.560 topped me off the air. I'm like, I didn't mind it, 22 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:26.879 not yesh for the whole episode. Shall we start with 23 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:28.640 the start, Well, let's start with the start. Yeah, let's 24 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:34.280 do that. You may recall deep Breath Wednesdays Tuesdays. 25 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.000 Indeed, in the history of the Simpsons, they once did 26 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.120 a thing called damn It. I just rewatched it, but 27 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:44.239 my memory is shot Simpsons Family Fun Time Variety or 28 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:45.359 something along those lines. 29 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.680 Oh yeah, Showcase, Yes, it's spinoff Showcase. Yeah, but you. 30 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.359 Recall that it starts with a little bit of a 31 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:52.760 song and dance number and the whale On Smith and 32 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:53.719 dancers and all that kind of thing. 33 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.319 I want candy and all that. Yeah. I hated that 34 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.120 episode as a kid, like, what the hell is going on? 35 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.840 I appreciate that episode because it took the pis very 36 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.319 once I knew what they were doing. Yes, Indeed, the 37 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:10.400 opening credits of Surveilled with Latin, which is a lip 38 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.360 dub's the term we use back in the day of 39 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:13.680 Kesh's song TikTok. 40 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:15.759 Yeah it's me. 41 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:20.159 It's an unironic version of the Simpsons Family Fun Time Variety. 42 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:22.560 Did you find out why? You've read? Why they did 43 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.199 it though, Well, it was part of a whole Fox. 44 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.000 So that's one of those things where Fox is like 45 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:27.960 we ownly you have to do this. So I don't 46 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:29.599 think that the Simpsons w another way to go, Hey, 47 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.240 that's a cool shong, let's do it. But they still 48 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:32.599 have to do it. I know they still did it. 49 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.039 Though we all have to do terrible things we are 50 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.479 contractably obliged to do. This is part of my contract 51 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:39.759 with the full Finger disc and Network. You'd be amazed 52 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:40.159 that things I. 53 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.800 Have to do for Dan do the things you have 54 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.719 to take off, Yeah, the things I have to put on. 55 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:47.560 I mean, but Hank, you know, Hank Hill gives the 56 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.400 advice in our recent episode of Speaking to the Hill 57 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.000 exclusively on our Patreon where you know, when the boss 58 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.840 they think you just gotta you just gotta suck up. 59 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:56.240 You just gotta suck up and do it, he says. 60 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:57.360 And if you don't like, you to sing a song 61 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.960 to yourself and play along. Basically, it's just, you know, 62 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.159 you do what the boss says. So the Simpsons Foxes 63 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:03.159 like do this, They're like. 64 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:09.400 Yeah, that person made an appearance in this episode as well. Yeah, yes, 65 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:17.159 unsure about that one of my favorite moments. Maybe my 66 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.560 problem is and I think I've been on the record 67 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.800 on the four Finger Discount Network about this in the past. 68 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.159 Kesha really only has one speed. Every song is a 69 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:28.240 variation on TikTok. 70 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:29.960 It's such a time capture of that song. It's very 71 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:31.639 much a time capsule and. 72 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.560 Potential hot take coming in hot. The Simpsons as a 73 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.520 show is cool. I think it's got a lot of 74 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.479 great brand as a brand, yeah, but certainly as a show. 75 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:47.360 The Simpsons as a family, they're not cool. Homer, Marge, Lisa, 76 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.400 even bart you know all that El Barto shit not cool. 77 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:52.800 He's a little dork but was one of the popular 78 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.840 kids in his year level. But he still, you know, 79 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.080 is a bit of a dork. Yes, and acknowledge that. 80 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.400 In episodes like Summer of four foot two, Yeah, you'll 81 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.840 have actual cool. But Lisa's more cool because Lisa is 82 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:05.840 more true to herself. Who do you think he is? 83 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:06.919 Dennis the Menace. 84 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.400 Having Yes, them all get together and you know, lip 85 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.479 syn to TikTok. I know it's not what the Simpsons 86 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.399 wanted to do or anything like that, but I just 87 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.920 did not like this credit sequence. 88 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.399 But you know, it was quite memorable at the time. 89 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.839 I remember people were talking about it, like, Hey, the 90 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.319 Simpsons they're all singing TikTok, and is it called TikTok. 91 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.560 The song is called TikTok, Yeah, and it's actually spelled 92 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.920 the way that the popular app use. 93 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.319 Yeah. So, I mean I didn't hate it because I 94 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.319 saw it as a necessary evil for them, because you know, 95 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.439 the boss said so. But still I'm just like, I 96 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.240 don't know, it's just felt like when it came on, 97 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.000 I was like, oh, it's this one. Remember when it 98 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.000 first happened. But apparently it's one of the only two 99 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:52.800 times where they don't actually say the Simpsons correct, Yeah, 100 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.439 because I must have been. I was like, a might 101 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.279 hit skip intro here, which I never do. Yeah, never 102 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.600 do it. No, never skip the intro. Now, we touched 103 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.480 on that with Matt Salmon. Remember we're talking about skipping 104 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.040 the intro, and my kids always sipped the intro and 105 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.639 I wish they didn' blahlah blah, that's why they got 106 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.600 to the couch gase and things like that. I watched the 107 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.439 recent special half of it last night. Extreme Maker of 108 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:13.439 a Homer edition finally came out, and the chot board 109 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.600 gag is I will not skip the intro because if 110 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.040 you had to skip the intro, they actually had a 111 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:22.079 really long couch gag of people just like physical art. 112 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.519 So I'm building the couch gag from just various shit 113 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:27.519 like homewares and things like that. So if you do 114 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.160 skip the intro for that part, you do miss a 115 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.439 really cool cauch gag. So don't don't get the intro, 116 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.959 but offer a story, right, Okay, But just just this 117 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:36.319 happened to me, I thought, I just have to tell 118 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:38.600 this story. There said nothing to do with the episode, 119 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.399 but I recently it's Eliot's birthday coming out, and I 120 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.279 recently brought him some football cards. A month ago, I 121 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.639 purchased these football cards, the whole set of the cards 122 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.199 that is collecting off eBay and I said it was 123 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:49.759 going to arrive two weeks later, and two weeks later 124 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:52.360 came by. I didn't come, and then it says delayed, 125 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.279 delayed on eBay. I was like, I'll wait a couple 126 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:56.839 of days. And it got to the twentieth. I'm supposed 127 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.240 to be here. I said it was going to arrive 128 00:05:58.279 --> 00:05:59.959 on the twelfth, and because the twentieth and I was like, 129 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.399 they're not here, and he was like, weird. Something else 130 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:04.439 I posted that date didn't arrive either. I'll check into 131 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.480 it comes back a couple days later, Hey, I've got 132 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:09.759 the tracking number. It says it was delivered June first. 133 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.160 I was like, nothing was delivered June first. It definitely wasn't. 134 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.319 He goes, well, what it says here it was? And 135 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:16.160 we look it up and he's like, maybe go to 136 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.399 the post office and seever it's there. I go to 137 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.360 the post office this morning, but no, there's no parcel here. 138 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.120 Bye for your name. What's the tracking number? The look 139 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.319 up the tracking number. It's been sitting at my house 140 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.399 since June first, in a safe place. Do you know 141 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.319 where the post is now leaving parcels in a safe place? 142 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.040 You know where he left it? A padded bag full 143 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:35.800 of football cards. 144 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.199 I'm gonna say, like on the footpath. 145 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:43.079 No, in the electrical box? What since when does the 146 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.800 posty put things in the electrical box? They've been it's 147 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.720 been in my electrical box for three weeks. Who the 148 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.879 fucker things to look in the electrical box for post 149 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.160 No one does, no one. And the guy in the 150 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:56.560 post office right goes is this Indian guy goes again 151 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.759 And I was like what And he goes, I tell 152 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.279 this guy, tell him he's a new guy. He posts 153 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.839 everything an electrical box nobody looks an electrical box. 154 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.199 I'm partly laughing at the situation. I'm partly laughing at 155 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.920 your wonderful which was part Zoidberg bone up. 156 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:19.959 It was just I was like, I don't want to I 157 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.480 don't want to fully commit to it. But basically it 158 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.240 was just, you know, he was like, I keep telling 159 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.600 this guy don't put an electrical box. He keeps putting 160 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.439 them in the electrical box. I was like, nobody looks 161 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.360 in the electrical box for parcels. What is going on? 162 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.439 This fellow clearly has the best intention. He wants to 163 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:34.439 keep your shit safe. 164 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:35.759 Because I thinks probably thinks of someone sees and they 165 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.879 might steal it. Correct, So at least leave a note 166 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.399 in the letterbox chiculate. 167 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.600 Don't have those little cars that they say yeah right 168 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:44.879 in electrical box. 169 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:46.439 So if I didn't, if I didn't follow it up, 170 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:47.839 it would just been sitting in the electrical box until 171 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.439 we had a blackout. We're oh, he's Elliot's birthday presents 172 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.800 from six years ago, at which. 173 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.560 Point, you know, father and sna restraant. You didn't give 174 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.920 me those footy cards? Dad, you promise me, is that 175 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:00.480 or not? 176 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.199 That's a little weird. Yeah, it's a little weird. So 177 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.240 if you ever have a parcel missing guys out there 178 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.639 watching or listening and you can't find it and it 179 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.439 says has been delivered, to check your electrical box. Never 180 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:16.040 happened to me before, Wise, wise lesson, but continue. No, 181 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.759 I was just about to say that when I was 182 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.800 doing my research for this episode last night work, by 183 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.560 which I mean watching to surveyor We'd Love. I was 184 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.839 watching on Disney Plus and came up Extreme Makeup a 185 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.360 Home edition though texted Dan I said, hey, we should 186 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:31.959 probably do an episode of this that I'm watching it 187 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:32.320 right now. 188 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:36.639 And then our pale stone Cutter, rates Bes is going 189 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.600 to get two shout outs today because she'll get named 190 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.399 when we do the Stonecutters. But also she put up 191 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:46.519 on the Facebook group saying, hey Brendon, Nando, Guy Davis, 192 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.080 have you checked this out yet? And we're like, oh, 193 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:49.960 maybe we should and we probably will. I think we 194 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.080 should do so, Oh we definitely will. 195 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:54.039 Yeah. I looked for it last week because I went 196 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.159 to The Simpsons went to exclusives and it wasn't in there, 197 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:58.480 and I was like, oh, maybe we're getting it late. 198 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.120 Maybe it's not there didn't put it in the exclusive section. 199 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.159 It's just its own random thing that's Understey. Plus, if 200 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.039 you don't search for or find it, you don't know 201 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:05.519 it's there. 202 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.799 Yeah, they're kind of dropping the ball in some ways. 203 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.720 I mean it's Disney. You mean Disney, Yeah, yeah, I 204 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.559 mean just throwing ship out there. Well yeah, one of 205 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:15.679 my favorite shows. 206 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:17.440 The Bear. Yeah. Yeah. 207 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.559 But in between season four and the upcoming season Vibe. 208 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.279 They had a little we found this thing was when 209 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:24.759 did this come out? What is this? Yeah? 210 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.519 They did a special standalone episode called Gary It's in 211 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:30.279 the past, right, Yeah. I watched it, Yeah, and it's 212 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.240 I'd yet to see it. I just knew what it did. 213 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.000 But yeah, it's got my man, well my dudes, Evan 214 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:42.120 mass Backrack, Hello Influences and John Berthorpe just a yeah, 215 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.399 an episode Punisher, right, yeah, the Punisher. 216 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:46.200 With those guys Shane from Walking Dead, I want to 217 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.080 Shame from Walking Dead. 218 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.960 Yeah, a bunch of other stuff. Cool guy in ones. 219 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:51.039 He was really nice. 220 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.879 He called isn't he counting? He's the brother, isn't he is? 221 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:58.039 With the most glorious head of hair? But I interviewed 222 00:09:58.120 --> 00:09:59.720 him and he was talking about all these people he 223 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.120 worked with, and I mean he was no slats by 224 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.360 this dage, but yeah, these are big names he was 225 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:05.759 talking about, and he was referred to them as mister 226 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:08.240 like like yeah, and when I worked with mister. 227 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.519 De Niro, I was like, this is really nice. This 228 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.080 guy's got to Yeah, showing the props. Good for him. 229 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.799 But yeah, so they're not hiding these things, but they 230 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:18.879 are not making they're sort of making them a little 231 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:19.639 difficult to find. 232 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:21.320 Yeah, anyway, enough. 233 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:25.440 About that to surveyor with love. I liked the central 234 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:29.320 idea of this because I liked I like stories about surveillance. 235 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.440 Who's doing the man? Yeah, who's doing the watching? And 236 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.919 what are we watching for? And that's the big point. 237 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.759 Especially what were watching for? Because one of my notes 238 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:42.759 in here is this, Wow, Ned can fuck off because yeah, 239 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.320 I mean initially they sort of set up this surveillance 240 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.279 system to anti terrorism, yeah, to guard against illegal activity. 241 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:52.399 Ned takes it and runs with it, and he decides 242 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.159 to monitor what he thinks. 243 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.159 Is immoral, his idea of a paradise. 244 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.919 Yes, indeed, just yeah, made me go fuck. 245 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:04.440 But yeah, it's throwing the question out there of how 246 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:06.120 much survands is too much? The valance to the point 247 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:07.759 where your freedoms are being impeded. 248 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.240 Well, yeah, and when do you reach the point that's 249 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.639 like that you will stop doing stuff of your own accord? Yeah, 250 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.840 because when it just becomes sort of second nasue, like well, 251 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:20.679 I'm just going to be watched, you know, even when 252 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.960 you're in a situation where you know no one is watching, 253 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:27.159 but you become so indoctrinated to yeah, not step out 254 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.799 of line, that you'll just be a good little citizen. 255 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:33.480 Yeah. I mean I find that really really interesting. And 256 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.279 and they tackled it. They take it a well here 257 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:37.039 they did. 258 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.240 They about it in a very roundabout way, as they 259 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:41.279 tend to do on the sentence. 260 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.159 I just find the story of oh we've had a 261 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:44.960 blind spot. Quick, everyone from tow let's go and do 262 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.240 some illegal shit in the backyard. It's like, you guys 263 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.960 weren't doing this before, so why are you doing it? Well, 264 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:50.519 that's the thing. 265 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.600 But something I've written down here is that, yeah, suppression 266 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.360 creates compression. I think they actually use the term compression 267 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:59.600 in there as well. But I mean, you te something 268 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.720 down line long enough, yeah, eventually there's going to have 269 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.639 to be some kind of release of pressure. And yeah, 270 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:08.320 it may manifest itself and is like, yeah, I never did, 271 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:13.559 Craig before you're telling me I can't smoke cigarettes. We've 272 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.279 been give him the opportunity to have to run a 273 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.360 little wild. I might you, yeah, I might take that 274 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:19.200 inch and run a mile. 275 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.200 If you're in a long term relationship when you break 276 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.840 up and all of sudden it's like, I'm gonna run wild. Well, yeah, 277 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:32.039 absolutely nothing. Luise, You're lovely certainly. But so I thought 278 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.320 this was closer to because I ranted. I believe it was. 279 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.639 The last twenty one episode video says twenty one squat 280 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.879 in the Whale where Flanners doesn't feel like Flanners anymore. 281 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.120 This is closer to the Flanders that we know. But 282 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:45.759 it's more it's in the middle, because this is the 283 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:47.919 as bad as closest to the Flanners of Oh we're 284 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:49.559 going to get now, because he's just not the same 285 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.279 person anymore. No, I don't think this doesn't feel to 286 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:55.360 me like the Flander as well. 287 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:55.519 Now. 288 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.279 I mean, I defer to your knowledge when it comes 289 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.240 to the Simpsons, and it's wonderful cavil to characters. I 290 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.039 tend to view Flanders as well. Certainly the early the 291 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.399 early version of Flanders as like almost like the best 292 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:12.600 version of Christianity, even though he is incredibly pious and 293 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.759 you know, easy to make fun of, but he's generally 294 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.159 very forgiving and he's generally very giving as well. 295 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.840 Tries to see the best of the situation. And I 296 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:25.559 don't think he really he doesn't try to impose his 297 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.399 world beyond anybody else. He tries to set an example. 298 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.960 I think I may be wrong. There were times where 299 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.720 he tried to impose but nothing. But if someone said no, 300 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.120 it's saying that don his face, he just would give up. 301 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:39.960 Sure wouldn't keep pushing and pushing and pushing. But here 302 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.399 it feels like he's like, I'm right, I know everyone 303 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:43.639 needs I'm going to keep doing it. 304 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.360 Yeah, And that's why it was funny when he would 305 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:49.960 have breaks, you know, I mean when Hurricane Eddy, Hurricane 306 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:51.960 Netty or something like that, or that was the first 307 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.360 time he properly broke, yeah, or it was, Or it's 308 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.240 funny when you see that his parents are freaky bick nicks. 309 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.240 That's just Hurricane Eddy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think I 310 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:04.879 think all that's very very good. Whereas we were talking, 311 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.960 we were just talking before we started recording about episodes 312 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:10.519 this season that we didn't like, and there was the 313 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:13.360 greatest story of add where that's just gonna be strigger 314 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.639 from the record that episode, I think so, but not 315 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.799 after we talk about it this way, yeah, where you 316 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.879 know he's very much again he was pushing it. Yeah 317 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.840 again Yeah, and two very similar stories. Really not really 318 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:28.080 he's not. 319 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.840 He's not pushing quite as hard. You get the feeling 320 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.559 in that episode. He's very much like, let me show 321 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.639 you the way. You come to the Holy Land with me, 322 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:38.399 and you'll see you'll see what I see, You'll see 323 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.480 the world through my eyes, and you'll you know, you'll 324 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:42.799 come aroundo my way of thinking. Whereas in this way 325 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.120 he's really just sort of you know, he's been given 326 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.440 a little bit of power and cracking the worp, and 327 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.720 you don't see any consequences of that either. I mean, 328 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.679 I think they very very quickly then go oh wow, 329 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.080 I got a little ahead of myself there, you know, 330 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:56.120 I got full of myself. 331 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:57.120 I don't know. 332 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:58.919 I think he needed a little more pushback and we 333 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:00.879 need a little more payback as a result for him 334 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.240 going as wild as he did. I think this would 335 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.320 have suited someone Walker, Helen Lovejoy quite possibly. 336 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.679 Yeah, the all town Gossiper. Yeah, yeah, have the. 337 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.279 Love Joy sort of working in collaboration and you know 338 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.559 Rever love Jos Wow, No, sorry, why am I giving 339 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:17.159 him that voice? 340 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:18.039 Now? 341 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:19.799 I know what it's like to No, I know what 342 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.399 it's like to be God or something like that. I 343 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.240 mean'd Midley that works for Ned as well. 344 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.320 But I just feels like Flanners is the only one 345 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.159 in there doing it. No one else is doing It's 346 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.559 just Flanders. Yeah, what does he go home? Is he 347 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.240 wa washing his skill? Like? What's going on? Yeah? What 348 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:34.919 happened to the other eight people that you brought in? 349 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:36.720 I mean, we know why Marge left. 350 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:40.600 Ye, van Houten's were there, and there's a few others. Yeah, 351 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:41.080 I know. 352 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.399 I think I just feel like there was room to 353 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:43.919 do more. 354 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.519 And I do think iranted last week about characters just 355 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.919 being ruined. They've completely ruined Cletus and Brandean for me, 356 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.840 oh yeah, but that they've crossed the line now between 357 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.919 country bumpkins and just downright monsters. But they're just horrible people. 358 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.240 He's talking Clearic's talking about how he has sex with animals, 359 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.200 and brand Dean's drinking while pregnant, and it's like, you 360 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.120 didn't go you didn't cross those lines twenty years or 361 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.240 fifteen years ago. Now it's just it's not funny, it's 362 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.759 it's uncomfortable. I don't I Mike, this is OK. This 363 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.120 is a kid show. You know, this is still a 364 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.559 kids show. Right, you should not be making jokes about 365 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:22.799 having sex with animals. You can, you can, I know 366 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.360 people will say, oh, you know you had the tromaclue 367 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.639 of fish. Then it was implied that's the h didn't 368 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.279 outright comme out and say I have sex with fish. 369 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.200 It's in clearness here says I have sex with animals. 370 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.000 It's like, who thought that was funny? I don't know, 371 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:36.480 I don't know. 372 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:42.440 I mean, the thing that I hate most when it 373 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:48.279 comes to art, but particularly comedy, is obviousness. 374 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:48.840 Yeah. 375 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.320 Yeah, it's it's like it shows a disrespect for your 376 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.440 audience and a lack of trust in your audience. But 377 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:58.759 you know they won't get the joke, so we were 378 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:00.360 not even going to make a joke. We'll just say 379 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.519 stuff for what we think is funny. But it's really 380 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.039 sort of more for shock value or anything else. 381 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:07.880 It's not so much that was a really clever joke 382 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:08.720 as opposed. 383 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.759 To can you believe that he said that that's the lowest. 384 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.200 That's the fucking lowest. So yeah, don't do it. You're 385 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.240 better than this. Since I know I hate to be 386 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:21.319 the person who says that there's nothing worse. 387 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:27.079 Than a successful franchise you can do bid in this especially, 388 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:30.920 we're just like, dude, way better than you number one 389 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.720 showing Disney Classy. 390 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.319 But another character that I feel has just been just 391 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:40.200 newted now to the point we eyes of you can't 392 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.680 take him seriously, and no one on the show should 393 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.359 take him seriously anymore. It's Chalmers. So at this event, 394 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.119 he's walking like a two to two and stuff like that, 395 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.559 walking around baby clothes or something like this isn't this 396 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:55.920 isn't normally me, or this isn't the usual me or something. 397 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.039 And it's like the teachers are there as well, so 398 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.599 he's work colleagues are seeing him behave this way, the 399 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:03.519 kids of the of the town have seen him behave 400 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.880 this way. How they ever supposed to take him seriously 401 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.799