WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.480 The team for the Chiefs of the shot guns trap 2 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:04.240 from their own twenty four rolling out of the pocket 3 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:06.679 Mahomes round trap, the turner shaping at the forty they 4 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.519 picked up by the gene to come to the inside. 5 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:10.240 The thirty got a block of the twenty break to 6 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:10.960 tackle the ten. 7 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:15.160 The five to the Pilon touchdown. 8 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:24.079 The go to back six. It's Cooper the. 9 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:31.519 Jeane about thirty seven yard pick six uh Patrick. 10 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:36.320 Mahomes Cooper to Jane the rookie on his birthday to 11 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.719 pick six on Patrick Mahomes gave Philadelphia a seventeen to 12 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.840 zero lead over the Kansas City Chiefs and route to 13 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:50.840 their Super Bowl championship. Porter Larsen Tony Parks filling in 14 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:55.240 for Spence on this Monday Super Bowl Reaction show on 15 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.000 ESPN seven hundred. We'll talk and hoops and a little 16 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.479 little leather stufe here in the market as well. But 17 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:06.319 to talk more Super Bowl and the Philadelphia Eagles championship. 18 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:09.799 That was He is one Omar Ruiz of the NFL 19 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.920 Network about to start his off season. Omar, thanks for 20 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:14.040 joining us, my friend. 21 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.159 Hey, Tony, no problem, thanks for having me on this 22 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.280 unofficial post holiday Monday. 23 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:22.640 Right right, yeah, we're I think it should be a holiday. 24 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:24.760 I've said it already on the show. I think it 25 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:30.040 should be a actual holiday, like recognized. But hey, we'll 26 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.799 we'll get to that when I get elected, Omar. 27 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.319 Or when they go to an eighteenth game and the 28 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:39.640 super Bowl gets pushed to President's Day weekend and then 29 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:40.719 that game's on Sunday. 30 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:42.959 Now we have a day off on the Monday. 31 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.879 But now, but now we're combining things. We're losing. 32 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.760 We're you're, you're, you're losing me there, give I need it. 33 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.680 I still I need a I need two different holidays here, Omar, 34 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.200 I need two separate ones, uh to make it work. 35 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.400 But we go into that game, and Tony and I 36 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.879 talked about it on the show Friday. To me, it 37 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:05.359 felt like Patrick Mahomes, the three Pete Andy Reid and 38 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:09.560 the best what I feel like play calling quarterback synergy 39 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:13.879 in the league against an uphill battle versus the best 40 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.000 roster in the NFL and the best roster man. It 41 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.039 won out last night thanks to no part to what 42 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.039 I think was maybe the best four man rush I've 43 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.520 ever seen from a front four. To me, that was 44 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.000 the story of the football game. How did you see 45 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:35.280 last night unfolding from a from a large scale we 46 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:36.240 lost omar Ruiz. 47 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.759 Yeah, I mean you stepped all over his idea about 48 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.439 President's Day weekend coming after the Super Bowl. You know, 49 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.000 I know he took offense to it. I mean you 50 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:47.599 insulted them. No, I'm just kidding. 51 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:48.199 Now. 52 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.280 That's I love that he's gonna have a chance to 53 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.680 talk about this too, because he will have great insight 54 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.400 on the like when this got in trouble, when this 55 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:01.120 became weird, when the water got red, and how this 56 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.159 thing could have unraveled in a hurry because it was 57 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:06.080 starting to it was early. I've watched a number of 58 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.680 Super Bowls. What the Chargers forty nine ers. I remember 59 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.080 when I thought that thing was over before it started. 60 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.680 I remember, you know, when the forty nine Ers beat 61 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:16.840 up on the Broncos. The one that this reminded me 62 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.960 of was when the Buccaneers beat the Raiders, because I 63 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:22.280 thought it was going to be a great game. 64 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.560 You had this elite quarterback. 65 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:25.719 Who was MVP, and I know he's not as good 66 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.400 as Mahomes, but early you started seeing pass Russ get there. 67 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.159 Early you started seeing problems for the offense of the 68 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.639 Raiders after they went up three zip and then five 69 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.919 picks three pick six, is the whole thing unraveled and 70 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.080 before you know it, it was thirty four to three before 71 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:42.159 it eventually was forty eight twenty one. So like this 72 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.439 one really shocked me on how bad it got so quick. 73 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.280 Take two with Omar ruiz Omar before you so rudely 74 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:54.680 hung up on us, I asked, what was your large 75 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:57.520 scale takeaway from from the win last night? For me, 76 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:02.120 the main point that I look at for the Philadelphia 77 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.719 Eagles was the fore man rush, their ability to knock 78 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.599 Patrick Mahomes off his schedule without having to send an 79 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:08.080 extra man. 80 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.840 Yeah, it was unreal. How you know, the fourth. 81 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.759 Time in the next gen stats era, so they've when 82 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.839 they've been tracking this kind of stuff, which you know, 83 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.000 probably the last ten years or so. This was only 84 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.839 the fourth NFL game where a team didn't blitz a 85 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.120 single time on a drop back. Forty two dropacks and 86 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.639 like you mentioned, six sacks, sixteen pressures, all. 87 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:32.319 That havoc without having to do it. 88 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.920 And it reminded me of you know, when the New 89 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.680 York Giants upset the Patriots in two thousand and seven, 90 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:40.920 twenty eleven. They had that ferocious, you know front four 91 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.639 that they didn't blitz too much and didn't bring extra pressure. 92 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:45.639 Those front four were able to create it and then 93 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.439 they were able to you know, get to. 94 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:48.160 Tom Brady that way. 95 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.600 And and similarly, you know, with Patrick Mahomes, I saw 96 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:55.279 the offense unravel for the Chiefs in a similar fashion. 97 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.800 And once they sort of smelled blood in the water, 98 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.560 then it was just uh, you know, relentless pursuit by 99 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:06.199 that Eagles defense and just how thoroughly they dominated for 100 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:08.199 a team that we knew they were good. 101 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.000 They were the number one defense in the league, number 102 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:11.920 two in scoring throughout the year. 103 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.279 But I don't know if they ever put their stamp 104 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.639 on a game the way they did, or maybe it's 105 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.519 because they have such huge stars on offense with Jalen 106 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.800 Hurts and Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown and that dominant 107 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.959 offensive line that we didn't give enough attention to that defense. 108 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.800 But they certainly put their imprint on that game and 109 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:31.279 prevented the historical three pat. 110 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.000 Yeah, the previous three Super Bowls were all three point differences. 111 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:35.560 I thought this one was going to come down to 112 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.560 the very end. You know, I'm picking like twenty three 113 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.160 to twenty Kansas City. You know, you're looking at all 114 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.319 the different factors going into this. Then the pass rush 115 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.120 just starts overwhelming them with nothing cute by the way, 116 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.720 bull rushes, simple moves, just one on one matchups of domination. 117 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:53.399 When did you sit there and say to yourself, oh 118 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.480 my gosh, this is gonna get worse before it gets better. 119 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.120 I think when the Devonte Smith touchdown and that's put 120 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:03.680 the game away, because I kept thinking that Andy Reid, 121 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.959 Matt Naggy, Patrick Mahomes, they'll figure something out, They'll make 122 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.120 some sort of adjustment. And I remember having that same 123 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.480 thought in Super Bowl fifty five, you know, when they 124 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:16.279 were dominated by the Tampa front and they're missing their 125 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.040 offensive tackles in that game and and very similarly in 126 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.199 this one. You know, they had they had issues with 127 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:24.000 their offensive line. That I think Patrick Mahomes and Reid 128 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.720 and and Matt Naggy collectively were able to overcome those 129 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:29.839 and and continue to win football games is because of 130 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.319 how good they are at their respective positions to compensate 131 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.720 for what had been an offensive line that we saw. 132 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.920 Joe Toney, you know, uh Pro Bowl type of guard 133 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.160 got kicked out and played tremendously at left tackle, but 134 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.319 he's out of position there and and obviously the Eagles 135 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.959 exploited that. So I think you're able to sustain because 136 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.319 you have Patrick Mahomes, because Andy Reid is such a 137 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.240 good schemer, You're able to beat you know, most other 138 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.079 teams in the NFL because of that. But when you 139 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.360 play the number one defense with an equally depth schemer 140 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:05.639 and motivator like mcfangio, we saw the result there. And 141 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.959 obviously the collection of talent that the Eagles have put 142 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.199 together the last few years, both in the draft and 143 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:15.199 free agency on that defensive unit, and we saw what 144 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:16.879 the results were yesterday. 145 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.360 As you mentioned, the magic of the Chiefs a lot 146 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.680 of times is the adjustments they make, the little things 147 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.079 during a game that Andy Reid can do, and Patrick 148 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.639 Mahomes can on the fly adjust to audible two just 149 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.959 because he is such a weird, freaky athlete. This doesn't 150 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.279 seem like one of those issues. Last night seemed like 151 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.000 a personnel issue where it just didn't matter what they 152 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:46.040 threw at Philadelphia. The Eagles were playing, they were playing forward, 153 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.120 and the Chiefs were playing on their heels, and it 154 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:52.079 seemed like that all night long. What does that mean 155 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.480 for the Chiefs offseason? Omar, what do they address as 156 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.439 far as as personnel. You no longer get to build 157 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.079 around Patrick Mahomes on a rookie rookie sale contract. This 158 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.480 is a guy you're locked into for a long time, 159 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.319 rightfully so, but you're gonna have to work around on 160 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.879 the margins a little differently. What does that offseason look 161 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:12.360 like for the for the Chiefs this time around? 162 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.399 Yeah, I think they have to refocus on the offensive line, 163 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.800 just like they did after that Super Bowl fifty five loss, 164 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.560 and they came back in there a little better before 165 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.439 falling to the Bengals in that twenty twenty one AFC 166 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.959 Championship game and then you know they got it right 167 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.399 and won a couple in a row. But I think 168 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.680 when you are constantly retooling a roster the way the 169 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.360 Chiefs are, and really that's the reality of NFL nowadays, 170 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.840 with the salaries of the quarterback so high that you 171 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.399 know you're constantly tweaking. You're constantly trying to get to 172 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.759 hit in the draft to get those guys on rookie 173 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.879 contracts to balance out that salary sheet, and sometimes positions, 174 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:51.240 you know, fall by the wayside. But I think for 175 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:54.200 the Chiefs, the offensive line is not one of those 176 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.519 positions that they can afford, you know, to you know, 177 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.480 like you said, play within the margins. 178 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:00.679 They kind of have to beef it up. 179 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.240 They have to be better because I think Patrick Mahomes 180 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.480 we've all seen if he's good enough and he doesn't 181 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.320 have that pressure, he'll figure it out. He'll make a 182 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:11.080 play with his feet, He'll make a play with his arm. 183 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.120 He is relentless that way. He's as clutch as anybody 184 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.039 we've ever seen in NFL history. But if he doesn't 185 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:18.960 have time to do anything, it might as well be 186 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:21.120 me and you back there, and nobody has a chance 187 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:22.639 against what Philly was bringing yesterday. 188 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.399 Sakuon Barklay had twenty five carries fifty seven yards. By 189 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.200 no means was this one of those performances that they'll 190 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.320 bring up first in the history of his career. But 191 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.480 what I will never forget is that when he was 192 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.759 not getting the ball, he was blocking his tail off, 193 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.080 he was doing anything and everything else to try and 194 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.360 help his team win. He was notable for being as 195 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.519 unselfish as any teammate could be made sure that his 196 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.639 teammates got the ball when the games were ever in 197 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.240 hand during the season, goes to a new team, loves 198 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.960 his family. Is I mean, he's just like this ultimate 199 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.639 team player and is so dynamic. 200 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.200 He put up a huge yards. 201 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.879 Is Saquon Barkley the most likable star in men's made 202 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.039 professional sports right now? Because how could you not like 203 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:03.480 this guy? 204 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:05.759 Yeah, he's a great guy. 205 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.000 I mean, as you were going through those accolades, I 206 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.960 just remember, you know, the few times that I've interacted 207 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:12.919 with them, and I've seen them behind the scenes when 208 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.120 you know, cameras aren't around, and and he really is as. 209 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.720 Good as he seems. I mean, he is just this 210 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:19.360 great guy. 211 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.679 And it really was evident to me what his addition meant. 212 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.240 Obviously we saw it every Sunday what it meant on 213 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:27.159 the football field. 214 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:28.720 But I had. 215 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.080 Questions about these Eagles, especially when they were at two 216 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.240 and two earlier in the year, without Jason Kelcey, without 217 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:38.080 Fletcher Cox, that that leadership void that they went into 218 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.559 the season with, you know, I think was filled in 219 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.000 large part by Saquon Barkley because of those things, those 220 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.159 attributes you just mentioned, the selflessness, even though he's a 221 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.480 huge superstar and certainly could demand the ball more. The 222 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:52.759 way he blocks, the way he works when he doesn't 223 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.960 get the ball, the way he doesn't complain, the way 224 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.360 he ingratiated himself to that locker room, and especially you know, 225 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.000 coming from in the division where you know there's already 226 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.519 probably perceived negative feelings about that, And just the way 227 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.440 he blended in and really wrapped his arms around Philadelphia 228 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.399 and then in turn, the way Philadelphia. 229 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:10.519 Wrapped their arms around him. 230 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:14.440 Couldn't have been a better match for a player and 231 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.960 for an organization the way those two And we saw 232 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.200 that historical season him breaking the record for most rushing 233 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.759 yards all time when you talk about the regular season 234 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.279 and the postseason combined. So just yeah, I think it'll 235 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.200 go down and if it hasn't already, you know, along 236 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.159 the likes of Reggie White and Deon Sanders as you know, 237 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:36.519 greatest free agent signings in history, and Seguon Barkley was 238 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.080 that good this year. Even though he wasn't spectacular in 239 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.399 the Super Bowl, he was good enough to get them 240 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.600 there and a big reason why they wont it. 241 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.080 Well, he had forty yards receiving too, so even though 242 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.480 he was. I think Spegnola did a good job of 243 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:51.919 trying to keep him in check on the ground, He's 244 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.159 still even though we're talking about keeping him in check, 245 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:57.200 he had one hundred yards right right, and it was 246 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.360 still a really productive in that game. The Eagle are 247 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:02.960 with the way they are built from the from the 248 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.320 inside out, with those offensive lines and defensive lines and 249 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:10.200 the skill positions around them. Man, there's a there's a 250 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:14.639 title window that extends, I think longer than a lot 251 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:18.120 of other title windows could in the NFL, strictly because 252 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.799 of the way that that roster is built. Omar, how 253 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:25.639 did the collapse of the Eagles in twenty twenty three 254 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.879 play into what they did in twenty twenty four, Because 255 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:30.559 I think that has to be part of the story. 256 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.720 They were in the Super Bowl three years ago. Last year, 257 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.960 they were at a point where, I mean, there were 258 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:38.960 a lot of fans and a lot of people in 259 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.679 Philadelphia who want to changes and want of changes at 260 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.080 the top, and a calendar year later, man, we're pretty 261 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:47.159 much a hole one eighty. 262 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:48.840 Yeah. 263 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.639 I think getting Saquon Barkley I think goes a long 264 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.320 ways to covering up a lot of holes that they 265 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.399 might have had and I think you know, the fact 266 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.000 that they could consistently run the ball. Now you knew 267 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.399 State Steves Bagnola was going to slow down that run. 268 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.399 I think you know the fact that the Chiefs hadn't 269 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.600 given up one hundred yard rusher in the. 270 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.879 Postseason since twenty nineteen. You know, something like that that. 271 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.600 That takes a full dedicated effort, and so you knew 272 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:15.879 that was going to continue going into this one. But 273 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.360 Hurts and and and aj Brown and Devonte Smith and 274 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.799 the rest of that crew made plays, you know, offensively, 275 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.440 and I think I think going from that collapse in 276 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.399 twenty twenty three, you know, the takeaway was, hey, let's 277 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.840 get a dynamic you know player, our Christian McCaffrey, right, 278 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:34.000 because the forty nine Ers had, you know, come off 279 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.919 at four of five years, going to the NFC Championship game, 280 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:38.960 had gone to the Super Bowl a couple of times, 281 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.039 and that was sort of the big rival that the 282 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.759 that the Eagles had had, and Christian McCaffrey's presidence obviously 283 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:46.799 a huge difference maker there. So let's get our own, 284 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.919 you know, playmaker like that that that really you can't 285 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.840 you know, figure out one way to stop or the 286 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.279 other you guys mentioned his effect in the past game, 287 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.279 and I think that was the huge difference. And I 288 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.320 think you know, they're able to be dynamic offensively. They 289 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.399 could run the ball and pass the ball. They could 290 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.879 involve the running back in the past game, and I 291 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:08.120 think that was the difference for them offensively. Not to 292 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.759 mention hitting big in the draft the last couple of 293 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.799 years and those guys maturing. We saw what Cooper Degen 294 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.039 did with a pick six and getting Zach Bond, So 295 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.039 you know, credit to Howie Roseman for hitting on all 296 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.360 these picks, hitting on these free agency signings, taking a 297 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.279 chance with Jalen Carter a couple of years ago at 298 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.000 number nine, and even taking a chance on Jalen Hurts 299 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.279 in twenty twenty when they already had Carson Wentz, who 300 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.120 a lot of people talked about as an MVP candidate, 301 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.440 but they took Jalen Hurts in the second round, and 302 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.080 people are thinking, what the heck are they wasting a 303 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.120 second round pick on? They have Carson Wentz, who you 304 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.480 know was coming off an MVP type of talk when 305 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.240 Doug Peterson was there, and obviously it paid off. Jalen 306 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:49.960 Hurts is now a Super Bowl champion of Super Bowl MVP, 307 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.679 and Howie Roseman continues to come up roses unintended. 308 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:58.039 Ellen Moore and Ben Johnson both now to be head coaches. 309 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.279 These guys to quarterbacks that were not considered elite honestly 310 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.159 and probably we're overlooked to a point, help them get 311 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:08.759 to an overall game to have great seasons and great success. 312 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.360 What are your thoughts about some of these offensive minded 313 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:15.399 head coach offensive minded coaches now becoming head coaches and 314 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.519 trying to help some franchises turn things around. 315 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.639 Yeah, it's always a craft shoot in my mind, because 316 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.200 you know when you see guys like Kellen Moore and 317 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.120 Ben Johnson, and the list goes on with all the 318 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:29.279 offensive minded guys over the years. We know they are 319 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.960 good as play callers. We know they are good at schemers. 320 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.279 That's how they got the head coaching job. What we 321 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.799 don't know is how they resonate with an entire locker 322 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.320 room and they're addressing the guys on defense, when they're 323 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:43.639 addressing the guys on special teams, how they deliver their messages, 324 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.000 how they are as leaders of men, and those are 325 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.519 the answers we'll find out. Obviously, and a lot of 326 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:51.279 the times when you find that out sooner rather than later. 327 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:52.879 But sometimes it takes a little bit. 328 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.320 You know, Nick Sirianni was two and five his first year, 329 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:58.440 and you know who's stumbling through press conferences and you 330 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.840 know a lot of people sort of you'll poke fun 331 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.799 of him, you know, the way they did Dan Campbell 332 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.000 and the bitend of the kneecaps, and that's another story, 333 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.039 Dan Campbell kind of maturing late. So you know, I 334 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.799 think we in today's NFL, be with head coaches, be 335 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.039 with quarterbacks. There is very little patients. But I think, 336 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.639 you know, Sirianni and Campbell are a couple of examples 337 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.120 when you do show a little patience, you believe in 338 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.720 the process that they're selling you that you know, you 339 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.559 can have long term success as far as you know 340 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.840 what Ben Johnson and Kellen Moore, you know, might bring 341 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:30.840 to the table. I think they have all those qualities, 342 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.639 but you know, the results will you know bear fruit 343 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.320 here in twenty twenty five and we'll see what happens omar. 344 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.879 It's way too early, obviously, We've got a whole off 345 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:44.519 season to look ahead. But as of today, what where 346 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.840 do you see the Chiefs and Eagles needing to retool 347 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.159 in order to be title contenders again next year, And 348 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:53.039 who else might be on your list of early twenty 349 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.679 twenty six title contenders alongside what I think are our 350 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.960 two teams that probably should be there if you're if 351 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:04.559 you're starting that list here in February of twenty twenty fives. 352 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.160 Well, yeah, I think yeah, I think the Chiefs will 353 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:08.759 be there. As long as they have Patrick Mahomes and 354 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.200 Andy Reid, they'll be okay. You know, we talked about 355 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.200 them tweaking the offensive line. The Eagles essentially just kind 356 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.920 of run it back. They have such a young roster 357 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:18.640 that you know, those guys are only going to get better. 358 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.440 Reminds me of Kansas City a couple of years ago 359 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.640 when they had all those rookies playing significant minutes on defense, 360 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:27.200 and those guys matured and in many respects, you know, 361 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.279 have carried the team the last couple of years. You know, 362 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.480 those guys on defense. But I really like Buffalo at 363 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.680 this point. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year 364 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.359 without Stefan Diggs and Gave Davis, and they had let 365 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:38.799 go of. 366 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.480 Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde, and I know Brooke. They 367 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.400 brought one of them back, but you. 368 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.200 Know, so much talent left and they turned over that 369 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:49.640 roster and they still made it to the AFC Championship Game, 370 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.039 and you know, we're that close to making it to 371 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.519 the super Bowl and what was considered a rebuilding year. 372 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.839 So I would say Buffalo will be right there. And 373 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.480 I think, you know, Detroit, you know, obviously had all 374 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.480 kinds of injuries to their defense this year, but I 375 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.279 think they're not going anywhere. We'll have to see how 376 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:10.079 they weather that loss of Ben Johnson. But but if 377 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.359 there's one team that stands out to me, it's Buffalo 378 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.039 because of what they proved this year, like I said, 379 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:16.559 in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year. 380 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:18.279 Who do you worry about taking a step back? 381 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:21.559 Oh? 382 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:23.960 I worry about the forty nine ers, you know, because 383 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:25.799 you know, obviously they took a step back this year. 384 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:27.880 But you know, you kind of think with Kyle Shanahan 385 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:30.599 brought Perdy, you know they're they're going to find a 386 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.799 way to retool. But I'm just not so sure because 387 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.960 that injury at Christian McCaffrey seems you know, rather significant. 388 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.319 Trent Williams, you know, the offense kind of went through 389 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:42.200 him a lot. Deebo Samuel's now on the trade block, 390 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:46.319 you know, George Kittle's not getting any younger, and and 391 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.480 you know, so that's a team that perennially contends, and 392 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.759 I'm not so sure you know, they can retool on 393 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:53.559 the fly the way some of these other teams have, 394 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.119 the way they're built. So that would be a team 395 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.440 for me that you know, I think might struggle to 396 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.519 find its footing that been regularly in contention the last 397 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:02.000 few years. 398 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:05.519 Yeah, with the Niners, it's more, you know, is this 399 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.319 is twenty twenty five. In twenty twenty four a moment 400 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.000 or did we just see the window close for what 401 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.160