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Speaker 2: It's calling my name? There is no mercy and it's

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been a tentery juice as the huge stream game Wrangle three.

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Speaker 3: Come here by me to die.

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Speaker 4: Inside these walls, inside the wild and when no girls.

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Speaker 3: I Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angla, a

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podcast one and forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman and

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it is Easter Week. I hope everyone who is off

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this week has a great time with family and friends.

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I'm a Christian and Jesus is a big part of

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my life and this is a very near and dear

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holiday to me. So I'm not going to keep you

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too long today. I'm not going to release anything new.

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I'm going to catch you up on a couple of

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things that relate specifically to Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola

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and let you get back to enjoying your time off.

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And speaking of that, I find this strange, and I'm

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freestyling today, so I don't have any script I'm going

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off of or anything like that, but I found it

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very strange. I have three children, all in college at

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this point. My son's a senior and my daughters are

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both sophomores at LSU. And they had their week off,

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their spring break, if you will, two weeks ago, and

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then the high schools, elementary schools, middle schools all around

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at least my area of Louisiana all have off this week,

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this current week that I'm recording this, and it drives

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me crazy because I don't know why, why do they

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not have that all synced up, Because a lot of

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people with especially with larger families, you may have one

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or two kids in college and one or two kids

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in high school. You can't even take a vacation. And

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I know a lot of college students don't still go

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on vacations with their parents, but some do. You can't

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even do any of that because they're off on different times.

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It just struck me when I found out that the

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high school kids are off this week. None of my

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kids are in high school anymore, and I'm like, that

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makes no sense. And it's been going on like that

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for a while. If anybody knows message being can tell

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me just one of those things to make you say hmmm,

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beforre and move on. And as I said, I'm not

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going to release anything new this week, but I'm gonna

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catch you up on some things because we are also

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in the middle of Louisiana's legislative session, and this session

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always takes place in April. It's just the regular session.

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But there's some crime related things on here, specifically related

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to Angola, that I wanted to cover. One of those

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is House Bill two o seven, and this bill would

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amend certain state statutes that deal with executions, and the

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amendment that is proposed directly relates to Jesse Hoffman's recent execution,

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and what they're amending that to say is that the

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execution must take place in the presence of a legal

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representative of the person being executed. If you'll remember several

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episodes ago, I talked about the Jesse Hoffman execution and

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his representatives very upset because they wouldn't allow his legal

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representation into the execution chamber to witness it. So this

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proposed law seeks to change that. Now, currently with the

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present law, the warden of Louisiana State Penitentiary or a

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competent person selected by him, as well as the corner

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of West Felicia in a parish where Angola is located

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or his deputy, a physician summoned by the warden of

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Louisiana State Penitentiary is allowed. Someone to actually carry out

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the execution method is obviously allowed, a priest or minister

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of the gospel if the convict requests that that is allowed,

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and not less than five nor more than seven other witnesses.

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That's the present law. This law would retain that, but

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it would just add a legal representative of the person

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who has been sentenced to death. So I'll keep you

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posted on what occurs with that. But interesting that the

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Jesse Hoffman execution directly relates because they would not allow

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his attorney or legal representation into the execution. Also up

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is a bill known as House Built three ninety four,

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and it just features some minor ten technical changes. Now.

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If approved, it would expand the legal execution window from

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three hours to five hours, and it would also make

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changes to requirements in the law about resetting execution dates.

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It would also remove some language regarding the current legal

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limit of seven witnesses. And I'll just review how that

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language is written, because I have these bills in front

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of me. Just quickly. It says the proposed law amends

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present law to change the beginning time from six pm

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to four pm. Further provides that every sentence of death

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imposed in this state shall be executed upon the date

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set for the execution by the court of the original jurisdiction.

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Presently it's six to nine pm at night. And there's

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some other proposed laws in here that aren't even worth

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going over. But I don't know why the time is

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such a big deal, but it is apparently to Representative

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Moore who introduced this bill. And then finally the bill

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that matters the most to me, and I really like

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to see this. It's a bill that is aimed to

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shorten the time from conviction to execution. Finally, a bill

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that actually focuses on the victims of these crimes. And

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I could have not told you this any better than

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Noah dot com. So I'm just going to quote their

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article for you quickly. It reads, as the state resumes

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executions of death row prisoners, a bill in the legislature

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aims to cut back on the time people convicted of

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crimes can spend trying to reduce or overturn their sentences,

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and it would vest more power over the process with

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the Attorney General's office. The move comes seven months after

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state lawmakers took action against Orderlingans Parish District Attorney Jason

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Williams over deals he made with the post conviction relief

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process to reduce the sentences of long serving inmates. And look,

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I'll be honest, I've had District Attorney Jason Williams sitting

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right here where I'm recording right now in this studio,

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the Orleans Parish District attorney and in person, great guy,

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very well spoken, really an awesome individual. But I disagree

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with him here. Obviously. It goes on to read. Attorney

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General Liz Murrill, a conservative Republican with a staunch pro

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death penalty stance, says House Bill five seventy two would

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prevent victims from waiting decades to see justice done. She

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has long complained that families of victims must wait too

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long to see death row inmates executed. The lengthy appeals

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processes in Louisiana, death row inmates have sat in prison

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for decades awaiting execution. Obviously ridiculous. US victims of crime

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deserve finality, but our system does not provide it. Mural

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said in a statement. The decades of inaction perpetrated by

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lawyers and individuals convicted of heinous crimes and perpetrated by

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this system is cruel and unjust. Republican lawmakers have already

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clamped down on post conviction relief last year, setting stricter

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timelines and procedural rules through Act ten of the Special

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Session on Crime. The act also allowed the Attorney General

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to appeal judicial orders granting relief for prisoners. The bill

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would prevent prisoners who pleaded guilty to crimes from asserting

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factual innocence claims. Quote. If they plead guilty, they are

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admitting to the factual precedent. They are admitting they committed

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the crime, and they are waiving all of these rights

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to appeal. Mural said, nobody is required to plead guilty

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to a crime. They are the wealthiest among us and

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have no limits to what they will do to keep

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that power until they are exposed. I'm your host Jim

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but Those against the bill argue, innocent people sometimes take

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plea deals and plead guilty to crimes to avoid the

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risk of harsher sentences. And that's true in some cases

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for an innocent person who is facing life in prison

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but gets offered a twenty year sentence, and who is

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uncomfortable with risk, you might be inclined to take the

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twenty years instead of life. Acknowledging these concerns, the bill's

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sponsored State Representative Brian Glorosso of slight Els said he

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will wanted to pull from the bill the provision that

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would prevent people who plead guilty from asserting that they

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are innocent. Quote. Our entire system right now is structured

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where people are incentivized to plead guilty to lesser offenses.

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There are times when people plead guilty to something they

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didn't do because they're facing charges and they don't feel

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they have adequate representation or means and they want a

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lesser sentence. And yes, that does happen, but I don't

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think it's a very high percentage of the time, very

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low percentage. Actually, He expects there will be a lot

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of changes to the bill before it goes to the House.

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Committee for approval. He said he wants to ensure we're

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protecting the people that have legitimate rights and need to

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make sure they're able to present their case and bring

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new evidence. We never want to have any innocent person

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in jail ever, but the state needs to address abuses

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in the system that allow post conviction relief cases to

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remain static for long periods of time. When Louisiana executed

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Jesse Hoffman last month using nitrogen gas, the state's first

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execution in fifteen years, Muriell said she would attempt to

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quote clear the underbrush on long dormant death penalty cases.

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Weeks later, she backed two death warrants for Cady Parish inmates,

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whose attorneys argued they still had not exhausted all of

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their post conviction relief. The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled in

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favor of the inmates last week, recalling their death warrants

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and ordering a state district judge to hear their post

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conviction relief claims before setting execution dates. Mural argued that

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was an example of the need to change the law,

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and I can't agree with that more. If you just

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continue to allow people to appeal and appeal That's how

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you end up with people sitting on death row for

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twenty years, and guess who's paying for that, taxpayers, all

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of us. I mean, of course they're going to continue

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to appeal to the cows come home. She went on

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to say the state has funded appeals in these cases

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with millions of dollars for the last twenty years and

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has little to nothing to show for it. This is

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the reason we need comprehensive reform of post conviction relief.

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Lawyers for these individuals obtained delay after delay, then did nothing.

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District attorneys and judges let these cases falter as well. Currently,

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it's up to local district attorneys to respond to the

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post conviction relief petitions as they see fit. For example, Williams,

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the progressive minded New Orleans DA, used that power in

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recent years to make deals with hundreds of prisoners citing

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shoddy police work or suspect tactics by prosecutors. The stricter

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post conviction relief rules passed last year were expected to

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hamper that work, and it's unclear whether Williams has been

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able to make such deals. Since if HB five seventy

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two passes, the AG could take over any post conviction

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relief case from a district attorney, shutting down deals like

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the ones William's office made. She said she would automatically

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get control over post conviction relief cases for death row inmates. Currently,

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the constitution prevents the ag from intervening in criminal cases

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unless the DA recuses themselves or gives express permission. She

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does not have the authority to intervene in civil cases.

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In five seventy two would move post conviction relief to

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the civil code. So far, district attorneys have not taken

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a public stance on the bill. The Louisiana DA's Association

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is reviewing it closely, set Executive Director Zach Daniels, but

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as yet voice support or opposition. The bill would also

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set stricter timelines for prisoners to seek post conviction relief.

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All defendants would have to file with them one year

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of a conviction. Currently they have two years, and capital

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defendants have unlimited time that from Cecilia Capel, an attorney

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f death row inmates. Defendants would also be required to

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file substantive motions more frequently, and judges would have deadlines

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to make certain rulings. Muriell said that post conviction relief

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procedures have long been abused, she argued DA's drawout cases

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by repeatedly amending post conviction relief petitions to get around

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time limits. The delays also do not serve a criminal

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defendant's interest either, because legitimate claims falter from inaction forgotten

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on district court dockets for years, she said. Mural also

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wants to cut back on shell petitions, where attorneys file

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barbines petitions and then return months later to flesh them out.

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In capital cases, tighter deadlines will be problematic, said Capel,

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as it can take years to get the records necessary

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for post conviction applications. It could harm the average prisoner

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without outside resources, who struggle to get the records from

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the cases scept part of the Innocence Project. Those state

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courts are the first line of appeal for death row prisoners.

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They can also file federal habeas corpus claims to review

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their sentences. The bill would prohibit death row inmates from

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filing applications within one week of their execution, a provision

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that Copel slammed. Quote, we've got the highest per capita

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exoneration rate from any death row in the nation. We

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have to use every single hour these guys have to

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prevent a wrongful execution. And look, I'll say this to that,

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nobody wants it ever to happen that somebody gets executed

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that was innocent, and it does happen very rarely. I

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am happy to see a bill that actually focuses on victims.

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And these guys know they did something, the majority of

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them know they killed ten people, and they're just appealing

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because it's their right to do it and they can

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extend out their life, and they're completely guilty. Most of

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the people, most the vast majority of people on death

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row at this time, there was so much evidence against him,

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it's ridiculous. They've already been found guilty by a court

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of their peers, and they're just taking advantage of the system.

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And let me tell you, if they're getting executed, here's

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the problem with the logic of well, they were forced

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to plead guilty because they were worried about what could happen.

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If you're on death row, you didn't take a deal.

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Who takes a deal of death? You didn't take a deal.

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That's why you're on death row. So you were found

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guilty by a jury, and that's what pissed me off

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about when they tried to delay Jesse Hoffman's execution. He

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was found guilty by court of his peers and people

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were trying to halt justice. So they have it. It's

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the latest coming out of the legislative session as it

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relates to Louisiana State Penitentiary and Gola. Again, I hope

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every one of you have a phenomenal Easter, spend it

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with family and friends, have a great time. I got

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a great case I'm bringing to you next week and

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until next time for Bloody and Gola, A podcast one

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and forty two years in the making, the complete story

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of America's bloodiest present Peace.

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Speaker 1: A wall Street line, shackle chain, it's calling my name,

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there is no mercy, and it's been a centurion.

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Speaker 2: Juice as the hill Stream game Rango three.

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Speaker 3: I'm in bed.

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Speaker 1: If I'm here to.

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Speaker 4: Die inside these walls, inside the wild, and when the walks,

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I know it's oldbody. Angle, obody Angle,

