WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:03.520 All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm True Seeker with the 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.559 True Secret Podcast, and today I'm going to be interviewing 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:11.679 Calvin Parker of the Haskagoula The Closest Encounter book that 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:15.519 came out an abduction story experience, and so we're going 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:18.640 to be getting into some of the details about this book, 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.679 his personal stories, encounters, beliefs, What's Happened, Just Happened. 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:26.199 October eleventh and nineteen seventy. 8 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:30.480 Three, nineteen seventy three. So this book is an exhaustive 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.039 concordance about his story and just about the whole field 10 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:36.840 of youthology in general. So we're gonna we're gonna go 11 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:40.399 deep on this one. So Calvin, welcome to the podcast. Man, 12 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:42.600 thank you for spending this time with me, having us 13 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.200 This is good stuff. So I've been following your story 14 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.200 for some years now. I probably first heard about it 15 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.079 in twenty ten, twenty eleven, you know, being from Mobile, 16 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:55.719 I'm in you know, we're down here in the Bible Belt, 17 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.399 and so there's not a lot of people coming forward 18 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.280 with their UFO story or anything spiritual or whatever. So 19 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.879 looking up some of the ones that kind of happened 20 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:09.359 around my area definitely leads you over to Golf Breeze 21 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.239 and Pensacola area. There's a lot of stories there. But 22 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.400 coming a little bit west of Mobile, we have this 23 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:20.280 story here in Pascagoula, Mississippi, which was phenomenal. There was 24 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.560 just a bunch of press online. I didn't know there 25 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.079 was this much press, Like all of the stuff that's 26 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:28.040 in this book, there's so much in here. I didn't 27 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.560 know that there was this much. But it means a 28 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.439 lot to me that it's close to home, and I 29 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:34.280 wanted to have you on the podcast. Usually we do 30 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.000 a video cast just through the cell phone and things 31 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.799 like that, but since you're this close down here, you 32 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:41.079 know in the Bible, Bet, I was like, we got 33 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.040 to make this happen in person. So again, thanks book. 34 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.959 It just covers probably half of what's in there. So 35 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:51.879 it's every day we have something that we're going to 36 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.840 add to it as an addition to the book. 37 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.280 The book, like I said, is exhaustive. I knew that 38 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:58.840 there was a bunch of stuff. There was a bunch 39 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:01.359 of interviews, clipping and stuff like that, but this thing 40 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.439 is full of it. Oh yeah, and you guys captured 41 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.480 all that I know you worked with Philip Manchell, the publisher, 42 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:09.319 to get this stuff out, and he did a great 43 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:10.400 job as far as finding a. 44 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:12.199 Job. 45 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.919 When we got started, I just kind of wrote my 46 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.919 story a little bit and he would keep me straightened 47 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.039 out because I don't have much education, so I wasn't 48 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.919 a writer. I didn't want to be a writer. Actually, 49 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.360 I didn't want to write the book. So it came 50 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.319 around that Philip had contacted me, and it just happened 51 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.039 to hit at the right time. My wife and I 52 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:41.319 had went to a wake at a funeral home and 53 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.680 I had signed the register and there was people coming 54 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:46.960 from everywhere wanting to talk to me, and we felt 55 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.719 like that was really disrespectful to talk about this and 56 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:56.039 this lady's this guy's funeral here was a neighbor of ours. 57 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.639 So after the funeral, we was on the way home. 58 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.400 My wife I said maybe we should write a book. 59 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:05.759 I thought, now, this fat boy ain't gonna write a 60 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:07.120 book because. 61 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:08.840 You know, I don't have the education too. 62 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.960 And I had dodged this all these years, from nineteen 63 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.199 seventy three on. I never talked about this to family, 64 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.039 to friends, to no one. So it comes after the 65 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.240 way I got home and I didn't no more than 66 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:26.080 get home than Philip had searched me down, been hunting 67 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:30.039 me for years, wanting to interview me on another subject 68 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:30.639 because he. 69 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.120 Didn't think I would write a book. 70 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:35.039 Yeah, so we talked about it and he asked me 71 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.120 if I would consider it, and of course I was 72 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:41.080 gonna blow him off. I said, of course I'll consider it. 73 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.240 I'll let me find a ghostwriter or something. But in 74 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.400 the back of my mind I was blowing him off 75 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:47.759 and I was borrowing my wife off. 76 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.400 I didn't really want to do a book. 77 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.919 So he called back one day and he said, why 78 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.520 didn't you want to write a book? I said, because 79 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:01.120 everybody changes stuff, you know, you give a press release. 80 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.919 Time you get the press release out there, it's a 81 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.560 hundred times more than what it was and now and 82 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.680 I said, I will write a book. I do not 83 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.840 want to book edited in no way, and believe it 84 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.599 or not, he agreed, being a publisher and a good 85 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.720 publisher he is. He did agree not to edit the book, 86 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.399 and in ways that was a mistake for me, because 87 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.120 I could have let him editor, spelling it all exactly. 88 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.560 I didn't. But people love this like it is. 89 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.959 They say it's like setting in the living room listening 90 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.959 to you tell the story. So I have a real 91 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:40.839 good relationship, working relationship with Philip and he's become a 92 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:45.839 friend since then. And he dug out all the information. 93 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.079 He said, I know this son, is take two or 94 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.480 three years to do. I said, oh, okay, if I'm 95 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:54.319 read it in a week, i'm writing it in a week. 96 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.160 He said, well, I know it's gonna take a long 97 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.240 time to it. We not in no hurry. Just take 98 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.839 your time and do it. So I told my wife, 99 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.319 I'm going to my bedroom. I'm gonna close the door 100 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.000 and I'll come out when we got a book, bring 101 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.079 you something to drink about once a day and something 102 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:14.399 they hate about every other day. And we got in 103 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.720 there and with Philip's help, you know, he'd kind of 104 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.120 guide me a little bit. We did the book two weeks. 105 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.920 Where was walking out with a book, and by the 106 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.160 time I finished that, he had all the information on 107 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.319 the inside, all the details, all the facts. He even 108 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.439 had a tape from the late Bud Hopkins where I 109 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:36.600 had went down and had him hypnotize me on a 110 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.560 different submissing time, and that's in the book. And I 111 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:44.279 didn't know I was even hypnotized. It was really shocking 112 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:45.079 with surprised. 113 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:45.360 Man. 114 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.519 Wow, I mean there's a lot just to even unpack 115 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.800 with that before we even get into the story. Really, 116 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.319 as far as like how quick you got the book out, 117 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:56.000 I mean that's a big thing too, Like there's a 118 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.519 lot of people who they've been through some really traumatic experiences. 119 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.680 They have some experiences that can help other people that 120 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:03.800 want to write a book. But like you said, this 121 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.120 is maybe a three year venture, you guys knocked it 122 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.480 out in two weeks. Is definitely an exhaustive books. And 123 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.279 he did all the back end research and collecting all the. 124 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.199 Ever his great Eddy. 125 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.240 He's probably one of the best publishers they need to 126 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:20.879 back to get. 127 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.279 I know he's the best on this. 128 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:23.319 Yeah. 129 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.399 And because he is so detailed and he hustled so 130 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:31.160 much and he does that he's not just af there 131 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:31.800 for the book. 132 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.480 He's a truth hunter, like you say, he. 133 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.959 Wants the cold hard facts and if they're not there, 134 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.480 he won't put them in that book or nothing. So 135 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.360 I've enjoyed working with him. I can't wait to go 136 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.079 to the UK in August and meeting Yeah. 137 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.120 Oh so you guys haven't met him person yet. 138 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.240 Well, no, we hadn't, but we do a lot of skypping. Yeah, 139 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:56.480 we do a lot of emailing. And so far, if 140 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.720 he told me the world's coming to the end tomorrow, 141 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.959 and you know, I'd go ahead and take my last riots. 142 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.439 Yeah, that's good man. So as far as just unpacking 143 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.920 the story for people who haven't heard of it, some 144 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.319 people are unfamiliar with it, you know, it being so big, 145 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.480 and especially when it comes to uthology, there's a lot 146 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.839 of people who have done their research. You've been doing interviews, 147 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.519 and the news has covered you. And I mean, this 148 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.560 happened back in the seventies and we have everything from there. 149 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:26.319 It was in the newspaper, but there's like a resurgence 150 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.920 of it now. I mean, you know, I want to, 151 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.560 you know, really get into the story. But that was 152 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:34.680 kind of a time where it wasn't accepted to be 153 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.240 talking about this kind of stuff, especially in the South 154 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.600 in the Bible Belt, talking about UFOs and aliens and 155 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.800 being abducted and there's really the stuff of horror movies. 156 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:47.279 Now there's a niche for this where like so many 157 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.279 people are drawn to it. I want to talk to you. 158 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.519 I got all these questions, but let's just go ahead 159 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.959 and unpack the story a little bit, just for those 160 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:57.720 who aren't familiar with with your incident. 161 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:03.319 Okay, Oh, everybody, keep in mind that in nineteen seventy three, 162 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.879 there were no cell phones, There was no social media 163 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:12.439 or anything like that. So this happened on October the eleventh, 164 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.120 seventy three, and it was a beautiful day. It was 165 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:19.600 about seventy degrees outside. So a friend of mine got 166 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:23.199 off a friend of mine, we had worked together at 167 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.680 the F. B. Walker and Sons Shipyard, and got off 168 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.759 work and as we get off, he asked me, he said, 169 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:32.759 would you like to go fishing? I said, yeah, anything 170 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:36.399 to kill time. So we went out to a place 171 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:41.200 called the Sharp Hitter Shipyard, took her fishing equipment. We 172 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.080 parked and the first thing I noticed when we got 173 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.519 there is how trashy everything looked, because this ship, we 174 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.679 all was abandoned and there was trash it that washed 175 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.120 up on the ground. But living on the coast, you 176 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.639 know that the high water brings it in and it 177 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.360 won't take it back out when it easy just stays out, 178 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:00.799 and that's one of the things. And I was thinking 179 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.840 to myself, they need to clean this place up. But 180 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.440 we was all illegal. They had a trespassing sign up 181 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.519 and all. And we got we parked the car, and 182 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.039 he said, well where we fishes, just right down here. 183 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.320 They got an old grain elevator, and that grain falls 184 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.399 off his boats and the fish comes up there to 185 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:27.320 the grain. We usually do really good dare. So we walked. 186 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.519 It took about fifteen minutes scuffle down to where we were. 187 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.960 We sat on the pier and we cast out, and 188 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.639 we didn't no more get cast out. Well, my mind 189 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:41.000 was wondering. I was looking across the river at an 190 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:45.200 old coast Guard ship or Noah ship, I can't remember 191 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.159 which one, and I was thinking to myself, this thing's 192 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.200 made still, how does it float? I couldn't figure out 193 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.360 my life how a bunch of steel could float on 194 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:58.440 water like that. And I noticed coming from behind me 195 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:02.879 was some blue, hazy light and it was reflecting across 196 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:06.960 the water toward the ship. Well me, I was thinking, 197 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.720 we trespassing the laws here, and that was about the 198 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:14.240 color that the lights were on patrol cars back then. 199 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:19.000 So I stood up and turned around and looked, and 200 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.120 when I did, it was a real bright light. 201 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:23.559 Just overtook the. 202 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:29.039 Hazy blue lights and I have to save, you know, 203 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.480 for an eighteen year old boy back then, I was 204 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.279 scared to death and I kind of glanced off, trying 205 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.919 to think of somewhere to go. But there was water 206 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:40.080 on the left and water on the right, and water 207 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.639 in front of me. And I was a good swimmer 208 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.639 at the time, but I didn't think I survived to breathe. 209 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.519 But by the time I turned around and looked toward 210 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:57.559 the ship, there was three robotic looking creatures coming toward us, 211 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.639 and it was too late to run anywhere. Well about 212 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.720 that time, I noticed Charlie had stood up and he 213 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.759 was looking and they got to us, and I seen 214 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:07.679 two of them take. 215 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:08.919 Hold of Charlie. 216 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.159 One of them got a hold of my left arm, 217 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.320 and I felt a puncture, and all of a sudden 218 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:16.200 I got relaxed. 219 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:16.399 You know. 220 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.039 I didn't care I about run or not, and I 221 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.879 couldn't say nothing. The only thing I could do was 222 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.639 set there and look forward. So I couldn't turn, I 223 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.399 couldn't move, and this thing picked us up by the 224 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:32.360 arm and floated us inside of the craft, floated us 225 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.039 up to the door the craft. Well, by that time 226 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.279 I couldn't turn around and see if Charlie was around 227 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.240 or not, but I could see the craft and I 228 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.919 was wondering what the light was coming from. So my 229 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.080 head was back like that and I was just rolling 230 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.080 my eyeballs and it was coming out of the paint. 231 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.279 It it looked like it was coming straight out of 232 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.519 the paint. It was just a real bright light. And 233 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:57.159 I thought, daring, this is something else. And they turned 234 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.080 and they walked me and turned right and took me 235 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:02.320 into a little room. They laid me on about a 236 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.200 forty five degree I don't know if it was a 237 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.039 table or what they laid me on, But then something 238 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.399 like the size of a deck of cards come out 239 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.159 of the ceiling and it come down about two foot 240 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.559 right straight in front of my head, and I could 241 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.720 hear it click. Then it went to the side and 242 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:23.720 it clicked, went to the back and it clicked again, 243 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:26.279 and it did it one more time. Then it shot 244 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:32.080 back up into the ceiling. And that's when I don't 245 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:37.600 know if this a more human looking creature came in. 246 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.919 The other ones just old, ugly looking, robotic looking creature. 247 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.759 You know, you could tell by the moves that they 248 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.720 was following some kind of orders or something. So I 249 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.679 figured in to be robots. But this other creature was 250 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.639 I'm guessing the female. I don't know if it was 251 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.480 or not, but I just had that feeling deep that 252 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:05.679 is probably a female, because you know, of the small 253 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:11.480 features owner and more human looking than the other ones were. 254 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.080 So she came out from behind the wall and she 255 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.279 walked up and her fingers was just like our hands, 256 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.679 except her fingers was longer her and she kind of 257 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.879 felt around on my cheek and I still wasn't afraid 258 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:32.600 at that time because of the I guess the sedation, 259 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:36.080 the shot that they gave me. So she took she 260 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.480 run her fingers down my throat and tried to come 261 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.919 up through my nasal cavity, and that hurt like hell. 262 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.519 So I just you know, I was coming out of 263 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.200 that thing, and I was wanting to get up and 264 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:51.960 run and I couldn't. And automatically, now her mouth never moved. 265 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:55.480 She had a mouth, but it never moved, but telepathically, 266 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.639 I guess she said, don't be afraid, We're not going 267 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.799 to harm you. And then that big creature walked open, 268 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.919 grabbed me by the arm, and I felt another little 269 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.440 puncture and she kind of backed up out of the 270 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.519 way a little bit, and I settled down again, so 271 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:14.240 I really wasn't afraid. But she did a few little 272 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.200 things there, such as I felt like she was looking 273 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.120 for an end plant or had put one in. She 274 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:23.639 looked in my mouth and my nose, and I all 275 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.440 was bleeding in you know where she had done that. 276 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.480 And then all of a sudden she backed up out 277 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.039 of the way, and the big ugly creature come in 278 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:33.799 and got me and took me back out to the 279 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.360 river where you set me, and put me out in 280 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:38.360 the same spots. 281 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:40.120 My arms were stretched. 282 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.480 Through the river, and they turned around was leaving when 283 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.440 I got to where I can move again, and I 284 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:49.159 heard the voice Charlie said, Calvin, Calvin, you okay? So 285 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.039 I turned around and looked, and by that time they 286 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.840 had made it back to the ship. The bright lights 287 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.679 went off, and this thing just picked straight up off 288 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:01.200 the ground a few feet and just disappeared more or less. 289 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:02.120 It was so fast. 290 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.559 Wow. How long did this wholy encounter last? Do you think? 291 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:08.200 You know? 292 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.559 It's hard to say. I'm going to say forty five 293 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:13.759 minutes or an I or something, but it's really hard 294 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:17.200 to say. Because we were ship fitting back in and 295 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.440 slinging the sledge hammer all day. We didn't wear watches 296 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:25.440 because of the shock to the watch. So we sat 297 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.960 there and talked a minute. Because the danger was over then, 298 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.159 so we decided to sit down and talk for a 299 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:37.320 few minutes. And Charlie says, where we need to let 300 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.279 somebody know us, and now this didn't happen, we don't 301 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:41.480 need to let anybody know. 302 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.039 You're on your own, Charlie, I. 303 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.240 Said, I don't want to know nobody know what happened, 304 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:53.440 because in the seventies I knew if we was considered crazy, 305 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.399 we never would get a job or nothing else. And 306 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:01.799 all I wanted to do was get house, have a family, 307 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:08.000 raised my kids, and you know, retire at a job 308 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:09.679 somewhere I didn't have. 309 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:11.399 To make much money. 310 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:18.200 So we sat there and talked and decided where we 311 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.840 both decided then really we shouldn't tell nobody. So by 312 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.200 the time we walked back to the car, I noticed 313 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.879 the car window on my car had been shattered on 314 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.480 the passenger side. And he said, well, we got to 315 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.720 tell somebody paid for this. 316 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:38.879 Yeah, Well, he wasn't worried about my car. I don't think. 317 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.399 He said, well, we got to tell somebody. I said, Charlie, 318 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.159 we don't need to tell a soul. We got in. 319 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:46.440 I tried to crank the car. 320 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:49.039 Now, this car, I bought it in nineteen seventy three, 321 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:54.720 just two months before this. It wouldn't crank. So I 322 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:56.960 kept trying, and finally it got to crank the all 323 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.399 and needless to say, when we got I headed out. Well, 324 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.160 we passed the Magic March store. Back in there weren't 325 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.559 cell phones, so we passed the little Magic Mark store 326 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:13.960 that had a phone hanging outside. We stopped or he 327 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.960 said stop here, and he wouldn't call Kesler Air Force Base. 328 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.559 So when he called them, they said, we don't handle 329 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.559 UFO reductions anymore. We shut down that unit a long 330 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.119 time ago. It's no such thing or something like that. 331 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.799 Call you local authorities. So he come back to the car, 332 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.359 got another dime, dropped the dime into pay phone, called 333 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:42.480 the sheriff department. So the sheriff department all said, well, 334 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:44.839 y'all stay where you are. They figured we was drinking. 335 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:49.839 First thing I heard Charlie said, well, he said that. 336 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.319 I asked him. I heard Charlie on the phone. He said, 337 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:56.559 now don't laugh, but I got something to tell you, 338 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:58.599 and the deputy answered the. 339 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.319 Phone said, well, I'm I'm not gonna laugh. What was it? 340 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.440 Charlie said, we was just deducted by Egidens. Well he 341 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.240 rolled out laughing, and I don't blame him. You know, 342 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.680 at the time that was unheard of. So he said, y'all, 343 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.839 don't move, stay right there, don't crank that car for nothing, 344 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.319 and we'll be there. Well, they must have had a 345 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.440 unit pretty close, and there's one that pulled up. He 346 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.480 walked to my side of the car. He looked in 347 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:30.119 the car, said, son, get out of the car. So 348 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.000 I got out of the car and there was one 349 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.720 on the other side with Charlie. He said, now I 350 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.480 want you to pull your left leg up, tilt your 351 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.799 head back, touch your nose, and jump on one foot. 352 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:44.799 I gotta see if your drinking. I said, Man, damn, 353 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:48.000 I can't. I can't do that sober, much less drinking. 354 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:48.279 You know. 355 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.440 Just go ahead and take me to jail and getting drunk. 356 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.039 It'd beat where I'm going, he said. But I got 357 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:57.039 out and tried it. Done his little filld sobriety testing 358 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:02.519 all and he said you're good to drive. He smelled around, 359 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:07.720 you know, so it was why they took us. He said, 360 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.160 followed me to the sheriff department. So we followed him 361 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.400 and they finished their little alcohol testing on. They determined 362 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:17.480 we wasn't drinking, so they was taking us a little 363 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:20.440 more serious thing. And well, they took him into a 364 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.319 room and took me into a room. Now I don't 365 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.160 know what happened at Charlie's room because I wasn't there, 366 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.839 but they interrogated me. I didn't want to talk about it, 367 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:32.680 so I just kept my mouth shut and I told 368 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.240 him any excuse I could not to talk about it. 369 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:40.960 Then they put us in a room together. And when 370 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.880 they did that, that's where the secret tape came from 371 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:45.039 from the sheriff department. 372 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:47.359 So what they call on. 373 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:51.680 They left us in this room together, and they had 374 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.119 a tape recorder room, and they taped their conversations. Now 375 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.480 I had no clue that this was going on when 376 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.519 it was. Didn't want to know. I didn't want to 377 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.319 tape out there. But anyhow they come in they got 378 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:06.200 your little tape out. Now I didn't see them get 379 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.599 your tape because they didn't send us to another little place, 380 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:12.160 but apparently they got your little tape out. Listen to it, 381 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.839 and that's when they called Fred Diamond, the head sheriff. 382 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:21.119 He come over. He said, son, y'all go home. Y'all 383 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:25.319 go on home, get some rest. And I said, Sheriff, 384 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:30.640 I don't want nobody to know. I actually druther nobody 385 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:32.960 not know. I don't want to be classified an idiot. 386 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.000 He said, We're not going to tell anybody. We're not 387 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:39.839 in you and we're not in the business of media. 388 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.400 We're just in the business of checking law. He said, 389 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.039 But I do want to tell you one thing. If 390 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.079 this was a hoax, you're going to jail for a 391 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.200 long way. Is there anything you want to tell me, 392 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.160 I said, I want to tell you not to turn 393 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:54.400 this loose to the press. 394 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:55.319 We'll go home. 395 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.920 So, to make a long story short, we got my car, 396 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.720 we went back home. Well, when I got home, on 397 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.839 the way, I told Charlie, I said, you know, it's 398 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.920 a good chance that we might have radiation or some 399 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.680 kind of bacterial disease or something, and I think we 400 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:14.839 need to go get checked out all of a sudden. 401 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.039