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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up news, need advice?

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<v Speaker 2>Who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 1>Come runing just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help me. Come man, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hey, hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, as you can see, we have a studio full

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<v Speaker 5>of people, Thank goodness. We have sues front and center,

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<v Speaker 5>lovely sues. And then we have Mark the Mug. And

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<v Speaker 5>then who is this homely guy to my left or

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<v Speaker 5>screen left? Who is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Dame John with cmg are mortgage expert.

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<v Speaker 5>I know John, God, John and I know each other

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<v Speaker 5>thirty years John welcome, John Clays.

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<v Speaker 7>Thirty years John, Oh, yeah, thirty at least years. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>at least.

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<v Speaker 5>John and Matt and his wonderful late brother and dads.

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<v Speaker 6>I knew them all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, we we had we've had many of fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we did.

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<v Speaker 6>We No, I'm not and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't mean, I don't mean rowdy crap, but we've had

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<v Speaker 5>a we've had a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 6>At various places, parties and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>We we really go way back and it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Good, good fun.

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<v Speaker 8>Though.

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<v Speaker 5>We're good friends. And how's Matt doing, by the way, John.

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<v Speaker 7>Matt's doing great, you know, he's still here in here

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<v Speaker 7>and Denver over there by the Dave and Busters area

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<v Speaker 7>of the Colorado Center. And you know, their Paradigm group

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<v Speaker 7>is still still doing He's doing well. He told me

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<v Speaker 7>just hi and yeah, he's doing great.

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<v Speaker 5>All right anyway, three oh three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 5>People, we welcome you to the show. You're all part

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<v Speaker 5>of the family. I have my YouTube morons, I have

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<v Speaker 6>I get texts every day from.

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<v Speaker 5>People all over saying, man, we love hearing you, we

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<v Speaker 6>So thanks.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the Troubleshooter family and this hour brought to

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<v Speaker 5>you something. This Validae's Valentine's Day special people, I swear

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<v Speaker 5>to you, I can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember just the other day I was saying thirty four

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<v Speaker 5>three eighty six y two five five five four waterpros

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<v Speaker 5>to dedicate today to products that work and products that

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<v Speaker 5>don't work. Have you ever bought something and it just

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't work? No, I'm not talking about broken down. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not talking about defective. I'm talking about the a holes

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<v Speaker 5>we're selling it, are lying to you. It just never works.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna give you one. How about the ultrasound that

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<v Speaker 6>keeps mice mice away?

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<v Speaker 9>True?

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<v Speaker 6>What a piece of crap.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, Deputy Bow is with me, chiming

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<v Speaker 5>and Bow, have you bought one of those?

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<v Speaker 10>I did, and I even built one. Wants to check

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<v Speaker 10>it out. And those things are just a scam. They

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<v Speaker 10>do absolutely do not work.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to I know Brian the mouse guy listens

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<v Speaker 5>to a slot the mouse and critter and guys. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to know what he thinks about those ultrasound systems.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I ever directly asked him, but people

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<v Speaker 5>waste money these things that plug in and apparently they

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<v Speaker 5>emit some kind of sound and it won't let varmint

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<v Speaker 5>surround you anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>Scott, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 5>Scott is uh talking about speaking of which? Animal protection?

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't know what's going on Scott? Hi, Scott,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm tom ar what's happening him?

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<v Speaker 11>So we had an encounter with Denver Animal Patrol. We

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<v Speaker 11>had taken our dog to the vet to have a

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<v Speaker 11>injury with his foot checked out. It turned out that

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<v Speaker 11>is a whorbit and that he was fine. On the

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<v Speaker 11>way home, we stopped by home depot. I was just

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<v Speaker 11>getting some pickets to fix the fence, and someone called

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<v Speaker 11>animal patrol. The officer was extremely rude. My wife was pretty.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait wait wait, wait wait, you just hold on, hold on, bro, Bro,

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<v Speaker 5>you took dog to the vet for foot injury.

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<v Speaker 6>And you said yeah, and then you stopped at home.

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<v Speaker 5>You stopped at home depot and they called animal control.

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<v Speaker 5>You're leaving something out. Why would someone call animal control

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<v Speaker 5>because you're at home depot with your dog.

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<v Speaker 11>So the dog was in the car with his foot,

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<v Speaker 11>he was limping, and so dog was in the car

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<v Speaker 11>windows and rolled down the temperature. I'm it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 11>eighty degrees. It was around eighty degrees.

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<v Speaker 12>Temperatures are rolled down.

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<v Speaker 5>So what time of year? What time of year was this?

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<v Speaker 5>What time of year was it?

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<v Speaker 11>So this was twenty twenty three and it was August.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifth, August fifth, Oh good, you're very precise.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty twenty three. Took dog to the vet, Okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Then on the way home, stopped at the Okay, go

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<v Speaker 5>on with your story.

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<v Speaker 11>And so an animal protection officer came out and again rude,

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<v Speaker 11>yelling at my wife, who was pregnant. We had our

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<v Speaker 11>son with us, who was around a year old, yelling

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<v Speaker 11>at both me and my wife in front of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 6>What were they yelling at?

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<v Speaker 5>What were they saying, Hey, this is too hot to

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>Pretty much more of it was. And it's that you know,

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<v Speaker 11>we were bad pet owners, that this is dangerous, that

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<v Speaker 11>something could have happened to the dog, and that it

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<v Speaker 11>was irresponsible. You should know better. What we recall the

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<v Speaker 11>officer saying is that she said, let's stick your son

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<v Speaker 11>in the car. See how long he lasts. The officer

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<v Speaker 11>instructed us to sit into the car and roll up

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<v Speaker 11>the windows to see how we like it. And so

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<v Speaker 6>It got very It got very contentious.

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<v Speaker 5>It got very contentious.

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<v Speaker 11>Very contentious, and from the from the start. So the

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<v Speaker 11>first thing that the officer said, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>So what are you calling about today? This was August fifth,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty three. You're calling today, which is February fifth,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty five. What is the new development?

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<v Speaker 13>So we had.

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<v Speaker 11>A trial, and what.

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<v Speaker 6>Were you charged with?

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<v Speaker 11>Animal? The animal.

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<v Speaker 6>Cruelty, the animal abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Cruelty, animal cruel Were you ticketed?

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<v Speaker 6>Were you ticketed? Or did they take the dog?

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<v Speaker 5>What happened that day?

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<v Speaker 11>So it was a summon, So it was over forty

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<v Speaker 11>minutes of the officer doing what they felt that they

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<v Speaker 5>So you were ticketed for animal cruelty. Now, normally it

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<v Speaker 5>goes to hearing way sooner than two years later. So

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<v Speaker 5>when did it? So have you been appealing and fighting this?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, why is it going on so long?

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<v Speaker 11>So the trial itself wasn't until November of last year, so.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't offer any kind of plea, bargain or anything.

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<v Speaker 13>No.

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<v Speaker 11>So the first day that I went to the summon,

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<v Speaker 11>I am a licensed profession in the city of Denver

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<v Speaker 11>and part of the renewal for that.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, hold on, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna take a break and I'm gonna hear your story

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<v Speaker 5>your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three talks seven

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<v Speaker 5>I go back to my uh anial, protect an issue

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<v Speaker 5>really quick. Brian the mouse guy, I just want to

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<v Speaker 5>ask you do those sonic ultrasound things work to get

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<v Speaker 5>rid of critters, mice and stuff?

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<v Speaker 14>For about what will happen is about two weeks into it,

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<v Speaker 14>they get used to it and they come back in

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<v Speaker 14>so they really don't worry.

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<v Speaker 5>So it does initially wait a minute, Initially it does

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<v Speaker 5>have some kind.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, it's an irritant. It's an irritant. They're not sure

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<v Speaker 14>what it is. It's like if you walk into a

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<v Speaker 14>room with a high pitched noise. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 14>scam in it for any length of time.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it. But then they get used to it

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<v Speaker 5>and they come back when they know it's not a danger.

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<v Speaker 6>They come back correct.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Hey, thank you, Brian. Appreciate it. Now, Jared,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a comment on this animal case?

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<v Speaker 6>What is it?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>How you doing? Tom? I just I got to agree

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<v Speaker 16>with the animal officer on this one. You know, you

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<v Speaker 16>can't leave your dog in the car an eighty degrees day.

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<v Speaker 16>You know how hot is it in that car? I mean,

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<v Speaker 16>if he wouldn't leave his kid in the car, why

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<v Speaker 16>would he leave his dog in the car.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he said the windows were open and it

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<v Speaker 5>was just yet. Look, I'm not you're right, Jared. I

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<v Speaker 5>imagine that the officer. I'm happy they're doing their job.

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<v Speaker 5>What I don't understand is what Scott's calling about right now?

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<v Speaker 5>So Scott, you can finish your story. So in August

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty three, you got the ticket. It finally went

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<v Speaker 5>to court. You were ticketed for animal cruelty. And what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on?

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<v Speaker 17>And so the issue with the case is, so the

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<v Speaker 17>officer did come out, they did take measurements of the car,

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<v Speaker 17>and they testified twice.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a motion hearings person and at the trial, the

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<v Speaker 11>dog was not exhibiting any signs of distress. The dog

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<v Speaker 11>was sitting up right with alert that they were attempted

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<v Speaker 11>to the officer. The officer testified that they saw no

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<v Speaker 11>reason to get the dog out of the car in

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<v Speaker 11>Tishade to provide the dog with water. They saw no

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<v Speaker 11>lug was healthy, that there wasn't anything that concerned them.

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<v Speaker 8>The issue with the case.

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<v Speaker 11>So when I complained about the officer's behavior to Denver

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<v Speaker 11>Animal Protection, they increase the charges against me, so that

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<v Speaker 11>not only are we doing animal cruelty but also doing

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they you know.

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<v Speaker 5>What they they often do that. They often do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry they do yeah, and so, and they do

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<v Speaker 5>that with traffic and everything. They what they try to

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<v Speaker 5>do is say, look, if we're gonna go to court

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<v Speaker 5>anyway and expend the money, let's uh, let's just do

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<v Speaker 5>whatever we need to do. I know people think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a punishment, and it kind of is. But but what

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<v Speaker 5>they're saying is, if we're going to go to court,

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<v Speaker 5>let's fight, and we may as well fight all the charges.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, let's speed forward to the issue today that

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<v Speaker 5>makes you call because so far, nothing really out of order.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying necessarily that you should be happy with

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<v Speaker 5>him or agree with him, but nothing out of order.

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<v Speaker 6>You got a ticket, it went to court. So now

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<v Speaker 6>where where do we stand?

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<v Speaker 11>So with the decision from the court, what was the sentence?

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<v Speaker 11>So with with adding the animal cruelty to the animal

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<v Speaker 11>neglect charge, there is something that says that when you.

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<v Speaker 6>Were you found guilty, Scott.

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<v Speaker 9>The yes, the judge ruled guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Scott.

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<v Speaker 6>I am okay, I listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you're struggling with this man, but I need

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<v Speaker 5>information because I know what you're doing. You don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to tell me stuff you disagree with, but I need

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<v Speaker 5>to know you were convicted.

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<v Speaker 7>Of what.

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<v Speaker 11>Animal?

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<v Speaker 6>Animal cruelty?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Anything else?

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<v Speaker 8>Nope?

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<v Speaker 6>The judge just okay, So.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you okay? So, so are are you appealing it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Scott?

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<v Speaker 6>And where where does it stand right now?

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<v Speaker 11>We're in the appeals process?

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<v Speaker 6>Dog? Okay? What were you going to say? Bo Scott?

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<v Speaker 7>Did day confiscate the dog? Do you have your dog?

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<v Speaker 8>We still have the dog.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have your Oh they took it away, so

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<v Speaker 5>is your dog?

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<v Speaker 11>They did not confiscate the dog.

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<v Speaker 8>We still have the dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, So what are you calling about? Scott, what

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<v Speaker 5>can we help you with if anything?

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<v Speaker 11>So, with the conviction of the animal cruelty, our son

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<v Speaker 11>was born last March. He was born with special needs,

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<v Speaker 11>art defects, stuff like that. I ended my job in

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<v Speaker 11>order to be an own caregiver for our son. With

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<v Speaker 11>a charge of animal cruelty, I cannot be a caregiver

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<v Speaker 11>for a population that.

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<v Speaker 5>Really wait wait, wait, so wait a minute, you're not allowed.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me get this straight. You're not allowed to care

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<v Speaker 5>for your son at home.

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<v Speaker 11>I am not allowed to be a licensed caregiver for

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<v Speaker 11>vulnerable Okaya as a conviction of and you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, you wanted Scott, I got to get the

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<v Speaker 5>whole picture. You you were trying to get a license,

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<v Speaker 5>so when you care for your son, you could be reimbursed.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 13>Correct?

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<v Speaker 11>Being a license?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, an assistant, I get that, man, I get that.

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<v Speaker 5>So now you want to change this career because of

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<v Speaker 5>your son and and and your life's changes, and this

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<v Speaker 5>conviction truly truly keeps you from doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 11>And I know that we're getting into a little.

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<v Speaker 5>Bit of the thicket here, but with the case, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I understand exactly. I understand exactly why you're concerned whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's your son or not. You want to be a

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<v Speaker 5>licensed caregiver, and you can't.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct.

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<v Speaker 6>Is this for life?

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<v Speaker 11>And so it will be on my record for a

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<v Speaker 11>minimum of three years. During those three years I can't.

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<v Speaker 11>I can then try to get it off of my record,

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<v Speaker 11>and then when you go and get licensed, they will

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<v Speaker 11>still do a background check and depending on how deep

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<v Speaker 11>that goes.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, No, I'm serious when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at the substance of this whole thing, leaving the dog

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<v Speaker 5>with the window open, they didn't even think the dog

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<v Speaker 5>needed any assistance.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean, I'm not saying.

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<v Speaker 5>People should do this, okay, but for that to make

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<v Speaker 5>a life impact like this, you would think there should

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<v Speaker 5>be some way to get this expunged or something. What

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<v Speaker 5>do you think about this, sus.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't know. I mean, like a lot of our

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<v Speaker 18>YouTube es are saying, like, if there is enough time

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<v Speaker 18>for animal control to come out, that dog was in

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<v Speaker 18>the car for quite some time, So it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 18>but was.

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<v Speaker 5>The dog on an eighty degree day with the window open?

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<v Speaker 5>How much was the window open? By the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just curious. Look, and I'm not making excuses for this guy.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to make that very clear.

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<v Speaker 5>It pisses me off when I see this, But does

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<v Speaker 5>he deserve a life sentence? I mean when you take

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<v Speaker 5>into consideration now, if this guy was fighting dogs and

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<v Speaker 5>regularly abusing animals, I would say, no way, can you

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<v Speaker 5>be a caregiver? You can't even care for dogs. But

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<v Speaker 5>if this was truly a one time thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know was it a one time thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Have you ever been in trouble before?

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<v Speaker 5>See if we got to take a break and we'll

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<v Speaker 5>talk about it coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>And speaking of that, John Clays, I just want to

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<v Speaker 5>ask you something real quick. We talk about reverse loans,

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<v Speaker 5>and I want to ask something. If somebody wants to

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<v Speaker 5>buy a house, can a reverse loan be put on

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<v Speaker 5>a new house?

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<v Speaker 6>How would that work?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes? Actually it's becoming quite popular because people, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>selling getting equity but so you would still do the reverse.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, Ballpark, you're going to have to put

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<v Speaker 7>down about about sixty percent of the price of the

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<v Speaker 7>house to qualify for the reverse purchase. But yes, a lot, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people are doing it. It's just like

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<v Speaker 7>a reverse mortgage, but for a purchase. So works just

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<v Speaker 7>like a regular purchase, but your own reverse. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>Then they move in and they can have that line

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<v Speaker 5>of credit just sit there. They don't need it right away,

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<v Speaker 5>but if they need it, they can tap it. But

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<v Speaker 5>if they're going to be in that house, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>ever have to worry about making a payment, never have.

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<v Speaker 7>To worry about making the payment. All they got to

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<v Speaker 7>do is pay their property taxes and homeowers insurance, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>they live there for the rest of their life without

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<v Speaker 7>making them money.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you allowed to use the proceeds of the loan

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<v Speaker 5>or the line of credit to pay for taxes and insurance?

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<v Speaker 7>You can? So, just just to be clear, So say

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to bring all cash. Now you would have

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<v Speaker 7>the line of credit would be about forty percent of that,

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<v Speaker 7>so you're going to but you would have equity of

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<v Speaker 7>that to pay any bills you wanted.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yes, you're good, all right, that's CMG mortgage, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>CMG Financial. I'm going to go back now. So Scott,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what to do about this man. Have

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<v Speaker 5>you inquired with an attorney? Did you have an attorney

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<v Speaker 5>through this process?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 11>I started with an attorney, but because I mean, we

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<v Speaker 11>had to take open up a new credit card because

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<v Speaker 11>of the costs, and we max it out, and so

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<v Speaker 11>I ended up defending myself at trial. I with all

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<v Speaker 11>the costs, especially with you know, our son. We're trying

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<v Speaker 11>to figure out how to navigate this, and you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I agree with you. I would never intentionally harm my dog.

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<v Speaker 11>The officer stated that they never saw anything wrong with

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<v Speaker 11>the dog. My issue is the officer in the report

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<v Speaker 11>said that the temperatures that they were measuring were the

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<v Speaker 11>ambient air temperatures inside the car. They were using a

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<v Speaker 11>laser guns. They didn't use it properly. I couldn't submit

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<v Speaker 5>But but it's over, Bro, It's but it's over. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you appeal it, but it's over. I think you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to lose the appeal What I want to know is this,

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<v Speaker 5>be honest with me.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Did they offer you something that wouldn't have been a

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<v Speaker 5>full fledged conviction and you just wanted to fight it?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, did they offer something less.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I had to plead guilty, and that guilty tree

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<v Speaker 11>is what would impact my ability to be licensed.

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<v Speaker 5>But did they would they make it? Would they make

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<v Speaker 5>it a lesser charge?

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<v Speaker 11>No, I would have to plead guilty to animal cruelty,

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<v Speaker 11>which would no longer allow me to be a caregiver

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<v Speaker 11>for a full vulnerable population. I get it, man, they

437
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<v Speaker 11>knew that.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have an answer for you, Scott, Scott, what

440
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<v Speaker 5>were you hoping?

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<v Speaker 6>And I always ask this because I really mean this.

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<v Speaker 5>What were you hoping we could find out for you

443
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<v Speaker 5>that that you can get this.

444
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<v Speaker 6>Reversed or something?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you you are going through an appeals process?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And I guess part of it is that I

447
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<v Speaker 11>am at my I don't know what to do with this.

448
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<v Speaker 11>You know, I I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're not going to get if you're you're not

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<v Speaker 5>going to get free legal help. I know that you're

451
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<v Speaker 5>appealing to us because your son has special needs. I

452
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<v Speaker 5>need to ask a question. Were you planning and I

453
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<v Speaker 5>don't care if you were, there's nothing wrong with it.

454
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<v Speaker 5>Were you planning on using your CNA to care for

455
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<v Speaker 5>your son and be reimbursed.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, A lot of parents.

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<v Speaker 5>Do this, and I want to explain this to those

458
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<v Speaker 5>listening so they don't think it's some kind of scam.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of parents think if I have to take

460
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<v Speaker 5>off work anyway and take care of my special needs child,

461
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<v Speaker 5>at least I don't have to lose one hundred percent

462
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<v Speaker 5>of my income because if I had to hire someone,

463
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<v Speaker 5>we'd have to pay. So if I get my license,

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<v Speaker 5>I can do it and get reimbursed.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously, you'd probably take a big.

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<v Speaker 5>Cut and pay from what you're making, but you wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to take care of your son. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>to say about it, man, Honest to god, I just

469
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<v Speaker 5>don't know what to say about it, because there's no

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<v Speaker 5>answer right now. You're going to have to either wait

471
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<v Speaker 5>until it's expunged or or until it drops off, or

472
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<v Speaker 5>you're going to have to get it expunged, which is

473
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<v Speaker 5>going to be expensive, or you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 5>win the appeal. There really is no answer here that

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<v Speaker 5>you like.

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<v Speaker 6>I wonder if you judge to say, and then I

477
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<v Speaker 6>have to move on.

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<v Speaker 10>Go ahead this real quick, Scott bo go what I

479
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<v Speaker 10>would do.

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<v Speaker 7>Do your appeal, but go ahead and take on the conviction.

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<v Speaker 10>But just tell the judge because of your circumstances with

482
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<v Speaker 10>your son, you can't get this last.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you explain that to the judge?

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<v Speaker 8>I did.

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<v Speaker 11>And the reason for the appeal and the grounds for

486
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<v Speaker 11>the appeal is again what the judge convicted on. The

487
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<v Speaker 11>prosecutor said that they would not go after and so

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not asking.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not asking if you asked the judge to retry it.

490
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<v Speaker 5>I'm asking if you explained to the judge the special

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<v Speaker 5>circumstances the judge is not to retry the case.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, correct, yep, And I did. I explained it at

493
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<v Speaker 11>the time. I explained it before she did the sentence

494
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<v Speaker 11>seem that this is why I could not accept the

495
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<v Speaker 11>initial when you show up for your okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, man, they must think this is a pretty damn

497
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<v Speaker 5>severe case.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all I can say. They must.

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<v Speaker 5>And Scott, I know that you have evidence that says

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<v Speaker 5>that the cops saw no big or the enforcement officer

501
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<v Speaker 5>saw no need for assistance and all that, But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what else to tell you. Mark, Do you

503
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<v Speaker 5>have any ideas? Sore's any ideas? Where do we get

504
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<v Speaker 5>Joe Lazaron?

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<v Speaker 19>Could we could ask him if he has an opinion

506
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<v Speaker 19>on it?

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<v Speaker 6>Time, Let's do it. Okay, let's just Scott, we'll call

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<v Speaker 6>you back.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's try to get that. Let's try to get some

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<v Speaker 5>some experts on here. Hey, Adam, you have a comment

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<v Speaker 5>on property taxes? What's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 15>That's only I'm a couple of acres in Pueblo, West Colorado,

513
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<v Speaker 15>and I just got my cask bill. And what aims

514
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<v Speaker 15>that they did is I own one lot that has

515
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<v Speaker 15>a house on it. One lot is an empty residential lot.

516
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<v Speaker 15>They have seen to change the residential lot to what

517
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<v Speaker 15>they call vacant land, and they're now taxing at twenty

518
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<v Speaker 15>seven and a half percent versus the seven and a

519
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<v Speaker 15>half percent as last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, a vacant lot is vacant land and they're not

521
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<v Speaker 5>going to be taxed. Well, it's a residential lot, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you telling me that a residential lot? See, a

523
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<v Speaker 5>residential lot is usually only taxed as a residential lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, man, A residential lot is only a temporary

525
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<v Speaker 5>designation while you're building or about to build, or plan

526
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<v Speaker 5>to build. If you do not, if you have it

527
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<v Speaker 5>as extra land, it's going to be vacant.

528
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<v Speaker 15>Even if it's a residence. But you know it's good.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I want to hear what your reasoning is. I mean,

530
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<v Speaker 5>you have it, is it?

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<v Speaker 8>Is it?

532
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<v Speaker 5>Do you plan on selling it or building on it?

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<v Speaker 15>I eventually plan on building on it, but not anytime

534
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<v Speaker 15>in the near future.

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<v Speaker 6>Then it's vacant land. I know you don't like that idea,

536
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<v Speaker 6>but it.

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<v Speaker 15>Is, even though I have loaned it for ten years

538
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<v Speaker 15>and it's always been taxed as a residential lock.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's very that's very unusual that they let you

540
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<v Speaker 5>get away with it that long.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm going to tell you something. It depends.

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on the assessor's office and how they handle it.

543
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<v Speaker 5>I'm not telling you I agree with them. I mean

544
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<v Speaker 5>you might be able to appeal it, Adam and win.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I think I can't because they're quoting so new

546
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<v Speaker 15>Supreme Court that got passed here in Colorado that is

547
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<v Speaker 15>saying they have the right to claim it all as

548
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<v Speaker 15>vacant land, even though it's that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Please, that's right. That's exactly now.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, if you made it as one lot, that's

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<v Speaker 5>Azara is a criminal defense attorney. He knows a lot

570
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<v Speaker 5>about crime and all kinds of stuff. Listen, Joe in

571
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<v Speaker 5>a nutshell, this guy left his dog in a car,

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<v Speaker 5>went to home depot and got a ticket for animal cruelty.

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<v Speaker 5>He was eventually convicted of animal cruelty while well, and

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, the dog was not distressed and not

575
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<v Speaker 5>died or anything, and people, you know, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 5>with doing that at all, but it seems quite severe

577
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<v Speaker 5>that after this conviction he cannot be as CNA. He

578
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<v Speaker 5>wants to be a licensed caregiver, partially to help care

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<v Speaker 5>for his own son and be reimbursed since he has

580
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<v Speaker 5>to leave his job. Joe, they say, no, you're not qualified.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it difficult to get that expunged?

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<v Speaker 20>It is difficult in a tent that is generally a

583
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<v Speaker 20>class one misdemeanor. That's what I'm assuming he pled to,

584
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<v Speaker 20>but considering, you know, it's considering he's completed it and

585
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<v Speaker 20>if his significant time has elapsed. There are different provisions.

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<v Speaker 20>I would have to look up specifically whether or not

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<v Speaker 20>you can feel that, but there are different provisions to

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<v Speaker 20>get people a second chance. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 20>something that's permitted to be sealed or not.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Other than that, Scott we don't know what to tell you, bro,

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<v Speaker 5>And you can call Joe Lazara l A z Z

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<v Speaker 5>A r A.

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<v Speaker 6>Really he'll answer questions for you.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, if you ever do hirements on

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<v Speaker 5>a flat rate basis Lazara Legal dot com rate we

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<v Speaker 6>Two hundred go ahead, Yes, hey, Joe. If this happened

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<v Speaker 6>in Denver, I assume it's Denver only, so if he

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<v Speaker 6>moved to Douglas County, it wouldn't follow him or how

601
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<v Speaker 6>does that work?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, what's interesting the conviction assuming it's a misdemeanor, and

603
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 20>now it could be something less, but assuming it's a misdemeanor,

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<v Speaker 20>it would follow him throughout the state. But if he's

605
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<v Speaker 20>completed probation, the only thing that's saying he can't be

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<v Speaker 20>a c CNA and licensed caregiver must be something either

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<v Speaker 20>with regards to the CNA or the federal you know,

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<v Speaker 20>being compensated as a caregiver.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is just a.

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<v Speaker 20>Generally, a misdemeanor has no real impact on you.

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<v Speaker 6>That's weird, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta move on to Adam real quick. Adams, listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I did some research, thank you, Joe Adam, I did

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<v Speaker 5>some research and I misunderstood what I was saying or

615
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<v Speaker 5>what the rules are. Here are the rules. Listen carefully,

616
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<v Speaker 5>this is really important. All lots, all lots are considered

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<v Speaker 5>vacant land, all of them, whether they're going to be

618
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<v Speaker 5>built on or not, they're all considered vacant land. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>if your lot is contiguous to you the extra lot,

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<v Speaker 5>and if both parcels have identical ownership, and if the

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<v Speaker 5>other parcel will not be sold and will be used

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<v Speaker 5>as one unit, then it should be taxed as residential land.

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<v Speaker 15>All three of those apply. And they are still saying

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<v Speaker 15>it is vacant land, and it is okay, and they

625
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<v Speaker 15>have suddenly made this year and it's only made in

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<v Speaker 15>Pueblo County.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well it's not only made in Pueblo County. According

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<v Speaker 5>to this, they're doing it all over because people. What

629
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<v Speaker 5>people were doing is land next to them, and they

630
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<v Speaker 5>were calling part of their lot to get a lower rate.

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<v Speaker 5>And what the Supreme Court decided in Mook versus the

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<v Speaker 5>Board of County Commission of Summit County is that the

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<v Speaker 5>land must be literally touching your land. It must be

634
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<v Speaker 5>an extension of your land. It must have the exact

635
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<v Speaker 5>same ownership, and it must be used together as a

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<v Speaker 5>collective unit for one property.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not going to be sold.

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<v Speaker 5>You told me at the beginning of this you are

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<v Speaker 5>someday going to build on it.

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<v Speaker 15>I am. I am someday going to build a house

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<v Speaker 15>for my son. I have two sons.

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<v Speaker 6>Then that would be considered.

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<v Speaker 5>Then it's then if that's your intent, it is vacant

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<v Speaker 5>land right now, even.

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<v Speaker 15>If currently it is used as a as a yard

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<v Speaker 15>off the same property.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because your intent is not to have it as

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<v Speaker 5>a collective unit. Look, how would they even know that?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you tell them that?

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<v Speaker 21>No?

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<v Speaker 15>No, but see that's just it is. No, they have

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<v Speaker 15>just made this change this year to every lot you're

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<v Speaker 15>in Pueblo County.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, they're not the only one. Everyone has.

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<v Speaker 15>It only is thirty seven acres in Costilla County that

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<v Speaker 15>is vacant land or and they are still packing it

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<v Speaker 15>at seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>Of sent Okay, are they calling your thirty seven acres

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<v Speaker 5>a residential lot?

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<v Speaker 15>I do not exactly. I don't know what they're calling

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<v Speaker 15>that one. But the one in Pueblo they are calling

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<v Speaker 15>vacant life.

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<v Speaker 5>In order I get it I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it at them.

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<v Speaker 5>You can appeal it. According to the Supreme Court, they

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<v Speaker 5>might be wrong. You can appeal it. It has to

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<v Speaker 5>be connected. It has to be service one unit. It

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<v Speaker 5>has to serve have exact own. That means not husband

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<v Speaker 5>and wife on one and husband on another.

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<v Speaker 6>It has to be exact.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 5>No Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 5>eight two five five. We have a consumer show here

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<v Speaker 5>that tries to help people each and every day and

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<v Speaker 5>we love doing it. So thanks for being here. And uh,

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<v Speaker 5>what I'd like to do is, uh go to the

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<v Speaker 5>phones three oh three seven one three talk seven one

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<v Speaker 5>three eight two five five. Of course we do that

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<v Speaker 5>sixty five years, three oh three four to one seventy

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred. Now let's talk to you, Marianne. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>What is this issue with a contractor?

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<v Speaker 2>Marianne, Hi, thanks for taking my call. I purchased a

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<v Speaker 2>home last June from my father in Park County, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an FHA low needed a new septic system.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a contractor through originally called Premier Consulting and

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<v Speaker 2>Construction and then changed over to KMA Professional Services midway

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<v Speaker 2>through my contract with him.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on now, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait

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<v Speaker 5>a minute, this is important, Marianne. This company that you

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<v Speaker 5>hired to do a septic is that because it failed inspection?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>And was that FAHA said you needed a new one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? No, the county said, I needed a new one,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were going, well, I understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>So when did they Here's what I don't understand. Normally,

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<v Speaker 5>if you go buy a house, the only time the

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<v Speaker 5>county would chime in about a sceptic is if you

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<v Speaker 5>ask them about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to because of the Park County regulation. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to get the septic pumped and I needed Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I needed it, Okay, yeah, okay. So they were requiring

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<v Speaker 2>that and then it failed and then they required a

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<v Speaker 2>new system.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you hired this company called what what's the

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<v Speaker 5>company you actually hired?

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<v Speaker 2>The company I originally hired was Premiere Consulting and Construction.

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<v Speaker 5>Now when you say that they changed, Well, how did.

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<v Speaker 6>That happen if they had a contract with you?

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<v Speaker 2>So it just started appearing on invoices. No, there was

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<v Speaker 2>no formal It went from.

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<v Speaker 5>It went from Premiere. It went from Premiere Construction to what.

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<v Speaker 2>To k m A Professional Services?

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<v Speaker 5>Now did they actually sell? Did they morph?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 5>How did they do this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is just one individual? So Christopher Terry, Yeah, Christopher.

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<v Speaker 5>So both entities were owned by Christopher Lockstock and Barrel

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<v Speaker 5>right like.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no other owners. No, it's just Okay, Chris.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's Terry a tea, isn't tom t E R

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<v Speaker 5>R Y. That's right, Okay, So continue your story.

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<v Speaker 2>So he uh tried to begin the product before I

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<v Speaker 2>closed on the house. She came in April, and he

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<v Speaker 2>figured he could do this since I was already living

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<v Speaker 2>here and my dad was here. So he came in

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<v Speaker 2>April and did the excavation for the test pit. We

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<v Speaker 2>had two eighty five engineering come out and start the

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<v Speaker 2>design process. But obviously I didn't have any funds to

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<v Speaker 2>pay anybody until the contract was in place with the

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<v Speaker 2>bank after the home was closed on.

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<v Speaker 5>So well, yeah, well, how are you going to address that?

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<v Speaker 5>This often happens where you're required to do something but

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<v Speaker 5>you can't do it. Yeah, Normally what happens is you

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<v Speaker 5>pay for it. So how did you address this in

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<v Speaker 5>the contract that you needed this done before you could

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<v Speaker 5>close and give them the money?

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<v Speaker 2>So that part of it really wasn't addressed that to

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<v Speaker 2>start before the close of the house. I didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>him any money either, nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>So everything I understand, but there had to be some

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<v Speaker 5>discussion on how you were going to pay. You never

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<v Speaker 5>said to to Terry or Christopher Terry, Hey, I won't

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<v Speaker 5>be able to pay you until my loan closes.

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<v Speaker 7>That.

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<v Speaker 2>I did tell him that several times in a text,

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<v Speaker 2>So I have everything documented.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I did keep going, tell me it may not

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<v Speaker 5>have to do with this, just keep going.

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<v Speaker 6>What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>So he started everything, and then we started failing inspections

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<v Speaker 2>from the county after we sold the house and everything

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<v Speaker 2>started getting going. The first fine I had to pay

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<v Speaker 2>because he wasn't He kept telling me he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to invoice and send it into my bank. So implied

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<v Speaker 2>that I needed to pay and it wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>get done and we weren't going to get started. So

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up just paying the fine. It was five

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty three dollars. And then we just came.

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<v Speaker 6>What was the fine?

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<v Speaker 5>What was the actual fine for? What was the fine for?

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<v Speaker 9>Fine?

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<v Speaker 2>The fine was because he covered test pits before the

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<v Speaker 2>county could inspect it, and then he didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>pulme permit posted.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, I get it, but that's that's more of

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<v Speaker 5>a technicality.

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<v Speaker 6>Was the system actually rejected? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So it was so this again, this started. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>back up, this started, faith, Mariann.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care when it started. Here's what I need

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<v Speaker 5>to know, Mariann. I need to know some very basics.

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<v Speaker 5>Did the system itself fail or was it the process

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<v Speaker 5>of covering it up? Did the system fail? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 5>guess I'm not going to get an answer. I asked

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<v Speaker 5>her if the system itself failed inspection or was it

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<v Speaker 5>the procedure that he did wrong?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>What was it? I mean, mary Anne? I think she

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<v Speaker 6>hung up. Why would she has the answer?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I think she doesn't want to give me all

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<v Speaker 5>the because I need information and and and she just

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to keep telling me other stuff. Maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I can't hang on for it. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 5>seven one three A two five five. John Clace, we

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<v Speaker 5>have a a text for you. And the text has

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<v Speaker 5>to do with the all in one loan. I call

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<v Speaker 5>it the liquid loan. They want to know if it's

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<v Speaker 5>a thirty year line of credit, do you have access

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<v Speaker 5>to that equity for the full thirty years or do

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<v Speaker 5>they expect you to start paying down at some time

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<v Speaker 5>or can you pay down in the last year.

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<v Speaker 7>So, yes, it's a true thirty year line of credit.

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<v Speaker 7>And what it does is for the first ten years

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<v Speaker 7>you have access to the full line then, so then

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<v Speaker 7>they take the last twenty years. They take basically whatever

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<v Speaker 7>say you borrowed four hundred thousand, They divide four hundred

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<v Speaker 7>thousand by forty is twenty years and months, and they

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<v Speaker 7>reduce your line by that much. So if you use

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<v Speaker 7>the loan correctly, you never have to worry about it

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<v Speaker 7>because all it does is go four hundred thousand, now,

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<v Speaker 7>have three hundred and ninety eight thousand available. Then the

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<v Speaker 7>next month three ninety six and hopefully have your loan.

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<v Speaker 6>Paddam, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they do that so you're don't end up

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<v Speaker 5>with a balance on day zero.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a force force payoff after thirty years.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, yes, of course, but it is a true

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<v Speaker 5>line of credit, first deed of trust, and every dime

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<v Speaker 5>you keep in the bank counts against the average daily

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<v Speaker 5>balance to reduce your overall interest.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to take a break right now. Three oh

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<v Speaker 5>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 5>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 5>sixteen twenty two. Oh Hi, Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three

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<v Speaker 5>O three and won three talk seven.

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<v Speaker 6>One three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Marian, I'm sorry we were disconnected. Here's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 5>You bought a home from your dad. It needed a

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<v Speaker 5>new septic. You hired a company to do the septic.

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<v Speaker 5>You said it failed inspection, Did it did the system did?

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<v Speaker 5>They say the system was defective when it failed, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He never put it in. So what he did was

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<v Speaker 2>he did the excavation. He ended up laying the piping down.

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<v Speaker 2>He never connected anything to the house. Uh, this was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a high functioning system where it was

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<v Speaker 2>above ground connected to a pump, because I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he kept failing inspections with how he was

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<v Speaker 2>even laying the pipe. So he failed three inspections in total,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he kept calling them out and for unfinished work.

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<v Speaker 15>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he kept telling me and give me the run

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<v Speaker 2>around about that he had purchased a tank and that

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to deliver it.

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<v Speaker 23>That went on for over.

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<v Speaker 2>Three months and nothing ever delivered. I finally called the supplier.

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<v Speaker 2>They had never heard of him, They had never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of me, my address his company.

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<v Speaker 6>But you've met.

867
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 5>But up to this point, you hadn't paid anything to

868
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 5>him up to this point, right, No.

869
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.679
<v Speaker 2>No, because he was submitting draws from the HUT through

870
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the Hut inspector, who, by the way, never came in

871
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>person to inspect, which is wait.

872
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 6>Wait wait, so did HUD pay him?

873
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 15>Yes?

874
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 5>Wait, HUD paid him out of a loan you didn't

875
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:43.440
<v Speaker 5>even close on.

876
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 6>Is something you never signed for?

877
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, I closed on the house in June.

878
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Everything everything I'm talking about now happened thereafter.

879
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 7>Okay, did they Did they hold the money and escrow

880
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 7>after when you closed to get before that?

881
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 21>Yeah?

882
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 5>Apparently they did, John, That's why. That's why they made dispersements.

883
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 5>But HUD had a responsibility or whoever was holding the

884
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 5>money in escrow had a responsibility to inspect before giving

885
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 5>those draws.

886
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 15>That's right.

887
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't, so I uh.

888
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, how much? How much did he get paid so far?

889
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 2>A little over forty nine thousand?

890
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

891
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa how much? Well, here's what

892
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 6>I need to know.

893
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Did you get someone independent to look at that to

894
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 5>say this is what is going to cost to fix?

895
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you mean another contractor?

896
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

897
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, I had another contractor come out and

898
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>give me another quote. Because nothing's done. I have visible

899
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>sewage leaking. He dug a pit next to my current

900
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 2>leach field. That leechfield is now leaking into that open pit,

901
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.679
<v Speaker 2>and I have damage to my home. I have all

902
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.159
<v Speaker 2>sorts of stuff he did with his equipment, okay, to

903
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>my property.

904
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 5>So right now, right now, this guy's been paid forty

905
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 5>nine thousand dollars by Hudd out of your money, Yeah,

906
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 5>for a system that never passed.

907
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Exactly and or was even in.

908
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 5>What does HUDs say? What does HUDs say about that?

909
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 5>About releasing that money?

910
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.199
<v Speaker 2>All I could do was make a claim and I

911
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 2>have to wait thirty to sixty days before anything happens

912
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 2>with them.

913
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 5>Here's what I also need to know this he was

914
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 5>paid forty nine grand.

915
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 6>What was the total?

916
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 8>So I have?

917
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 5>In other words, what is the contract total forty.

918
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 6>Nine of what.

919
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>God, it was a little over two thousand.

920
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 5>Oh way, so so basically he's been paid in full. Basically,

921
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.440
<v Speaker 5>basically he's been paid in full.

922
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.800
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I would try to get the title company on

923
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 7>your side or involved, because when they closed, I mean

924
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 7>they they're the ones who had to put the money

925
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 7>in escrow. I would think, I.

926
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Don't understand how they release that.

927
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 5>There are there are provisions for for for releasing money

928
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 5>like that which calls for inspections that that HUD guy.

929
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Is going to be in trouble. Yeah, but isn't this

930
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 6>why title insurance exists?

931
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

932
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with any of it. It's my first

933
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>time buying a house.

934
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 7>I would get title company. I think it'd probably be

935
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 7>better than HUD directly, but just to get them on

936
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 7>your side.

937
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 6>Up you need all right? You're well?

938
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so right now, where does this stand? Are you

939
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 5>living in the home?

940
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I am? Soon we're going to what hold on?

941
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 5>Does the system Marianne? Does the system function? Or are

942
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 5>you still using the old system because the new one

943
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 5>hasn't been interconnected?

944
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Right right, the new one has no tank. There's no

945
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.119
<v Speaker 2>tank existing because he's so.

946
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 6>The new one has not been to the house yet,

947
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 6>not at all.

948
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.159
<v Speaker 2>No, so we have the old system. It works, but

949
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 2>each field is failing.

950
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 5>I get it, I get it. And so where does

951
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 5>this stand right now? With this guy? Does Christopher Terry know?

952
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 5>Does he realize that he owes you a lot of

953
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 5>work to get it running? Or does he think he's done?

954
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 5>What does he think?

955
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I have not heard from him. He has totally ghosted me.

956
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I have done a lot of research found out that

957
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 2>he's done this multiple times to other people, also skipped

958
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:56.119
<v Speaker 2>around some different.

959
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 6>Done what multiple times?

960
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Wait?

961
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 6>Wait? Which part did he do multiple times?

962
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.039
<v Speaker 2>He starts projects, ruins them, doesn't do them properly, or

963
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 2>doesn't finish them when in leaves, takes as much money

964
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 2>as you can and.

965
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 10>Goos, Marianne, Is this the same day and a mechanical

966
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 10>and monument Colorado?

967
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:18.519
<v Speaker 7>That did you work?

968
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 6>Can you say that again?

969
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>You're a little client.

970
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 6>Where is he out of monument monument? No?

971
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, he is out of Centennial.

972
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 6>He's looking up the.

973
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Different Sorry I could listen. Where did you ever talk

974
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 5>to an attorney about this.

975
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Kind of I have a custody attorney that I was

976
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 2>going to use you.

977
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.239
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no no. You don't use an attorney

978
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 5>you're using for something else. You use an attorney who

979
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 5>specializes in this stuff. We just talked to an attorney

980
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 5>yesterday and how that might be able to help you,

981
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 5>and we'll to get him on to to to We

982
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 5>ought to get him on to give us a first

983
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 5>blush on this. You have all your contracts and stuff.

984
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 8>I do.

985
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 19>Want you.

986
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 6>I want you to at least listen.

987
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 5>He offered to give a free consultation, initial consultation to people,

988
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 5>and we said we would send him people. So I

989
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.159
<v Speaker 5>would like Katschina to send it over to Is it Hollington?

990
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 5>I think it's Neil hollingback Holling one.

991
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 7>Well, anyway, it was.

992
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 5>Hollington, Neil, okay, would you send this over to him.

993
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 24>I will get info from Dmitri because I just have.

994
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:49.280
<v Speaker 6>His phone number.

995
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 5>And it was Neil right, it was yeah, yeah, we

996
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 5>have it, So we're going to send you. I want

997
00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 5>you to get an initial consultation.

998
00:52:59.280 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 7>Mary Anne.

999
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.079
<v Speaker 5>This is very complicated and it sounds up and screwed royally,

1000
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 5>so I want you to hang on and Katschina will

1001
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 5>get you that information. It's very very important we have

1002
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 5>also in the studio John clay Cima. She financial talking

1003
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.280
<v Speaker 5>about conventional loans, reverse loans, and the all in one loan,

1004
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 5>which is a thirty year line of credit. If you

1005
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 5>have any questions for him, we'll come right back. Julie

1006
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 5>says her sister needs assistance. All of that coming up

1007
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.159
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<v Speaker 5>your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three talk.

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<v Speaker 6>Seven one three eight two five five. So whose turn

1021
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<v Speaker 6>is it?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>This shower looks like a million bucks and there's no

1027
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<v Speaker 5>maintenance and it's absolutely beautiful. Plus the hardware and the

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1029
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<v Speaker 5>They do it in two or three days, with seventy

1031
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<v Speaker 5>two months to pay. Can you believe that seventy two

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<v Speaker 5>months to pay?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Now let's talk.

1037
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 5>Here's the problem. By the way, Uh, it is Julie's turn. Julie,

1038
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.440
<v Speaker 5>what's going on with your sister?

1039
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 19>Hi?

1040
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 6>Julie, what's going on?

1041
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 8>Hi?

1042
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 9>I am needing a I think durable power of attorney

1043
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:24.280
<v Speaker 9>for my sister. Sorry if I cry, but oh I.

1044
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 6>Don't want you to cry. Now tell me. Hold on,

1045
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 6>let's let's talk first. What are you trying to accomplish?

1046
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:30.519
<v Speaker 7>First?

1047
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 6>And then we'll talk about the story. What are you

1048
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:33.280
<v Speaker 6>trying to accomplish?

1049
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 9>So that I can speak to medical billing on her

1050
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 9>behalf and.

1051
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 5>As she was, do you want to make do you

1052
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 5>want to make healthcare decisions for her as well?

1053
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 6>Do you want to do all kinds of stuff or

1054
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 6>just or just the legal stuff.

1055
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 9>And financial and medical if needed?

1056
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 6>Legal, financial and medical? Okay, I think you might need.

1057
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 5>You might need now now, a power of attorney's the

1058
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 5>right way to go for the legal and financial. The

1059
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 5>care providers have forms for medical decisions. That's not a

1060
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 5>big deal. You can be designated by them and you

1061
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:28.599
<v Speaker 5>don't have to go through the courts.

1062
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 6>But I want to ask something. What's going on with

1063
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 6>your sister?

1064
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 12>Now?

1065
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:32.679
<v Speaker 6>You can tell me that part?

1066
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 9>Okay, I would say the beginning of last year, in

1067
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty four, she was friended by somebody online. And

1068
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.599
<v Speaker 9>this is the most god awful scam I've ever heard of.

1069
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, first tell me first, tell me, first, tell me something.

1070
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:01.079
<v Speaker 5>Is your sister undergoing any treatment for anything?

1071
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 9>She is now seeing a therapist?

1072
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so this is not like okay I made I'm sorry, diminished,

1073
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.840
<v Speaker 5>I get that I'm not talking about that. But we're

1074
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 5>not facing a crisis right now where she's in ICU

1075
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 5>or something. So what you have is a sister making

1076
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 5>very poor decisions.

1077
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.039
<v Speaker 6>This is different. I need to tell you something, Julie.

1078
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:31.480
<v Speaker 6>This will have to go to that.

1079
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 5>This is not the same as a power of attorney

1080
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:39.039
<v Speaker 5>and simply a healthcare designee health care decider.

1081
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:40.440
<v Speaker 6>You can't do that.

1082
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 5>When somebody is mentally incompetent, you can't go to let's

1083
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 5>say they're with UC health.

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<v Speaker 9>She's not mentally incompetent. She has never been declared mentally incompetent.

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<v Speaker 9>She is slow.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, here's what I'm saying. This is what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get as.

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<v Speaker 5>Julie. That is against what you're trying to do, not

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00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 5>for it. Here's what I'm saying. With all other healthcare.

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00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 5>I just want to get this out for those listening.

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<v Speaker 5>For all other healthcare, all you have to do is

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<v Speaker 5>go with your sister to the healthcare provider and she

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00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:23.320
<v Speaker 5>designates you as the decision maker for health. The second

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00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.159
<v Speaker 5>thing is a power of attorney, which you do with

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00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 5>an attorney, which designates you to make decisions for legal

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<v Speaker 5>and financial.

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<v Speaker 6>But I must tell you.

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00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 5>It's not to make decisions contrary to what your sister wants.

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00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 5>It's only to be convenient. If she's not able to sign,

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00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 5>for example, if you're not allowed to make the decisions

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00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 5>for her. See, I think you're confusing what a durable

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00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 5>power of attorney does and what the healthcare advocate does.

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00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 6>They don't make They don't take the place of.

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00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 5>The decision make her necessarily if the decision maker can say,

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00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Agree now what you are talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>What you must do here to make a long story short,

1108
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 5>and you can tell me the story.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a scam. I want to hear it. But you're

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00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 6>telling me.

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00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Your sister was taking advantage of and you want to

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00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 5>prevent that from happening. Because she's slow, you must have

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<v Speaker 5>her declared incompetent.

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<v Speaker 9>No, that's not what I'm trying to accomplish here. I

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00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 9>know that I can't call her debtors on her behalf

1116
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.440
<v Speaker 9>because she has a hard time articulating to people. She

1117
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 9>gets frustrated very easy, and then she just gives in

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<v Speaker 9>to whatever they want. I'm just trying to be able

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00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 9>to talk to them to make arrangements to pay her

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<v Speaker 9>bills at an amount of money that she can actually afford.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Julie, I know what you want to do, and

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01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm with you, okay, But there is no legal mechanism

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01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:17.559
<v Speaker 5>for that. That can only be done if she says,

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01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.760
<v Speaker 5>if she says to you, I want you to help me, Julie,

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01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 5>and I agree to go along with anything, and then

1126
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 5>she impersonates you, or you impersonate her, or you simply

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01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 5>get on the phone with her. For example, I designate

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<v Speaker 5>sus to talk to all of my financial people for me. Okay,

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01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 5>I think even my Comcast and whatever, or my Exfinity,

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01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.519
<v Speaker 5>but I designate her and it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>But she can't go against my wishes.

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<v Speaker 5>If I said, if I called Exfinity and said, wait

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<v Speaker 5>a minute, I don't agree with this, or if Exfinity

1134
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 5>calls me and says, hey, I know you agreed to

1135
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 5>pay this, but we're increasing it. Well, you know it's

1136
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.480
<v Speaker 5>not what you want. You must for you to do

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01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 5>what you want. And I know you don't want to

1138
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 5>hear this, but she must be incompetent. If you just

1139
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.320
<v Speaker 5>want to help her, then just help her. Just get

1140
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 5>on the phone and help her and have her designate

1141
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:22.599
<v Speaker 5>you as one of the managers of her accounts. So

1142
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 5>each credit card and each account, Susan, what does it take.

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01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 6>We just designate you, right, what is it called? Is

1144
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 6>it called a manager?

1145
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 4>What what is called?

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01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:36.199
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it depends on the different entities. Tom.

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01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 19>I mean you just share documents with me so I

1148
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 19>can get in so.

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01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 5>In pact, but you also are designated like you can

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01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 5>account people.

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01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so, Julie, I think what you're trying to do

1152
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 6>is harder than you.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just trying to I mean, she's already given me

1154
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 9>permission to talk to her debtor of the medical bills.

1155
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.960
<v Speaker 9>But are they going to want something in writing?

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01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 5>Something like what you haven't even told me? Well, what

1157
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.119
<v Speaker 5>do you mean something? Give me a specific You haven't

1158
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 5>told me what you're trying to do. You just she

1159
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 5>gave you permission to talk to them.

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<v Speaker 6>About what.

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01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 9>About arranging payments for her bills? These past two bills?

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<v Speaker 6>OKAYK.

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<v Speaker 5>Then then they're gonna want her to sign whatever settlement

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01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 5>agreement you come up with.

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01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 6>You can negotiate it all day long. You can say listen, yeah, yeah,

1166
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:50.039
<v Speaker 6>go ahead. So why don't you just do that? Because Okay,

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01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 6>I want you to think about that, because I'm not

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01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.719
<v Speaker 6>sure what look and I gotta take a break.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure what you're trying to do or why

1170
01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 5>you can't do it because you have everything in place

1171
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.840
<v Speaker 5>to do what you want. If she said you can

1172
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 5>talk to him, talk to him, and then when you

1173
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 5>come up with a settlement, she signs it so you

1174
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 5>don't need anything else.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Tom Martino. We'll talk to you right after this.

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<v Speaker 5>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to Julie. So, Julie, do

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01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 5>you understand what I'm saying about what you're trying to

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01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 5>accomplish in what you need to do or if you

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<v Speaker 5>have additional questions?

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you think you're going to do?

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01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 25>Well?

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<v Speaker 9>I'll just call up her medical bills and make arrangements.

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01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:18.119
<v Speaker 5>I guess, yeah, and again I think if you're just

1194
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 5>trying to help her, now, tell me about the scam

1195
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.320
<v Speaker 5>you were telling me about what happened to her.

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<v Speaker 9>She had met somebody online and they had been corresponding

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01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.599
<v Speaker 9>back and forth for several months. This person asked her

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<v Speaker 9>to pick up his suitcase that it got routed to Tucson,

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<v Speaker 9>that's where she lived, and it was left at the

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<v Speaker 9>airport and could she please pick it up and when

1201
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 9>he came through again, he would come by and get

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01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 9>it from her. She said, okay, yeah, but she couldn't

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01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 9>get it that day because she was working and didn't

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01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 9>know when she was going to get off work. She

1205
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.519
<v Speaker 9>said that she get the next day or two, and

1206
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 9>he told her fine. Two days later, well, she gets

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01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 9>a text from somebody that says are you and he

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01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:19.800
<v Speaker 9>said her name and she said, yes, this is and

1209
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 9>he sent her a picture of a suitcase full of

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01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:29.599
<v Speaker 9>guns supposedly confiscated at the Tucson airport. And because she

1211
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:35.920
<v Speaker 9>is connected to this case, she has is going to

1212
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.639
<v Speaker 9>be charged with gun smuggling.

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<v Speaker 6>Boy, that's a new one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So what happened? I mean, did they believe that

1215
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:48.559
<v Speaker 5>she was slow and didn't understand anything.

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01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 9>Oh, I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>Did she get off on it?

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01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.559
<v Speaker 5>Did she get off on the charges or did they

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01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 5>charge her?

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<v Speaker 9>No, she was never charge This was the scam.

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01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:03.840
<v Speaker 6>It was all bs. They were threatening her, they were

1223
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 6>trying to shake her down.

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01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 5>There was oh, in other words, there never really was.

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01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 5>There never really was a scam. But did she have

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01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:14.239
<v Speaker 5>to pay anybody anything?

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<v Speaker 9>They started sending her emails posing as Christopher Ray, the

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<v Speaker 9>director of the FBI.

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<v Speaker 6>Get it, and she started so what did it end up?

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01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:28.679
<v Speaker 6>Did end up?

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<v Speaker 9>She was paying them to keep herself out of jail,

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01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 9>out of prison?

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01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:40.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 6>How much did she How much did she pay?

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<v Speaker 9>She paid over eight thousand dollars?

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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:47.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh no, husband's military and they were taking that every

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01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 9>month of eleven dollars. She got so oh my god

1239
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 9>over this because she had no more money, and she

1240
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:05.239
<v Speaker 9>tried to kill herself.

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01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 1>God.

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<v Speaker 12>And she was put in a mental hospital.

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<v Speaker 9>And this is all the medical bills that I'm talking

1244
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 9>about was her state in the mental hospital.

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01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:19.639
<v Speaker 6>This is crazy.

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01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 26>Oh, I moved her up.

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01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.039
<v Speaker 9>Here, you know, find this out. She was here at

1248
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 9>my house for three months before she finally told me everything, because.

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01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 6>It's shame that they feel shame when you've been when

1250
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 6>you've been hoodwink so bad. Hey, she do you think?

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01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.840
<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you something, you know, she how much

1252
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:41.960
<v Speaker 6>does she owe in total?

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01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.639
<v Speaker 9>About thirty two hundred dollars just.

1254
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:51.079
<v Speaker 5>She's going to be collecting roof Wait wait, wait, her

1255
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.719
<v Speaker 5>total bills are only thirty two hundred.

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<v Speaker 9>Of all the bills because she had insurance and it

1257
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.199
<v Speaker 9>covered some. But she was in the mental hospital for

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01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:04.760
<v Speaker 9>two weeks and her insurance only covered a week.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank goodness, No, that's not I'm saying. I know

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01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 5>that sounds like a lot of money, but I mean,

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01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, look, she's going to get over this right now.

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<v Speaker 5>You just want to prevent it from happening in the future.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, How is she doing right now?

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01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 9>She's these creditors keep texting her and calling her and

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01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 9>over and over and over and over.

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01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.399
<v Speaker 6>She needs to black a matter of her mind. Just

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01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.640
<v Speaker 6>tell him, just tell them to go away. Don't answer

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01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 6>the phone to her.

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<v Speaker 9>And she's she is going to therapy here and she

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01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.039
<v Speaker 9>has been talking to her therapist about this. But I

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01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 9>see a change in her mentally the last few days.

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<v Speaker 9>Of course, I'm just of course, and I don't have

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01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:54.279
<v Speaker 9>the money to help her pay for anything.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, you know, you know, really the truth is,

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01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:03.119
<v Speaker 5>here's the truth. They can't take anything from her.

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<v Speaker 21>No.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other thing is tom medical bills. They can't

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01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:09.399
<v Speaker 6>even put them on the credit report like they used

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01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 6>to be able to. I mean, eventually they can, but

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<v Speaker 6>it won't even affect your credit. Yeah, you just have

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01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.039
<v Speaker 6>to basically tell her to block the numbers, tell them

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01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 6>the pound sand tell them to kiss off, right right.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I'm so sad this happened to you, and I

1284
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 5>understand why you were getting emotional, and listen, here's the deal. Ultimately, though,

1285
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 5>they can't really do anything to her, So don't go

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01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 5>through too many you know, don't just don't bend over

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01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:44.359
<v Speaker 5>backwards and upset your entire life for this. They can't

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01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 5>do anything to her, of course, they can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>We're out of time. Then we're out of time. So

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<v Speaker 5>we have more coming up, John class with us from

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<v Speaker 5>one loan and more. And we have also Deputy Bone

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<v Speaker 5>in the House, Ensues and Mark. So stick around three

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<v Speaker 6>studio with me, John Clays, how are you doing today, man,

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<v Speaker 6>CMG Financial.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm good, Mark, Thank you for having me here today.

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<v Speaker 6>This one is going to drive you insane. But I

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<v Speaker 6>want your first blush at what's going on with it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>this guy called in a couple of weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 6>people have been dying for an update on this, so

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to get Tarzan on. His real name's not Tarzan,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm going to give you what happened. And the

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<v Speaker 6>reason I'm bringing John in for people listening is John

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<v Speaker 6>is a CMG Financial does every form of home loan.

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<v Speaker 6>You can imagine, there are go to experts. These guys

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<v Speaker 6>do reverse mortgages, they do ten year, fifteen, twenty year mortgages,

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<v Speaker 6>thirty year mortgages, they do the all in one loan.

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<v Speaker 6>And we'll talk about that stuff. But how many closings

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<v Speaker 6>have you been to in your life?

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<v Speaker 15>John?

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<v Speaker 6>If you had to guess one hundred, two hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 7>Couple hundred five, maybe say so.

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<v Speaker 6>Tarzan and let me bring them up. This story's crazy, Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was probably about two weeks ago, three weeks

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<v Speaker 6>ago on a Friday. It was before Martin Luther King

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<v Speaker 6>on that Monday, So we're talking to three weeks ago, Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 6>You had a closing with the title company in Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 6>You showed up and everybody signed everything and they handed

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<v Speaker 6>the person, the woman the keys, congratulated everybody on the closing,

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<v Speaker 6>and you went home. Am I correct?

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<v Speaker 15>So far.

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<v Speaker 6>Cars An?

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<v Speaker 8>So I did? I did that via DOCU signed.

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<v Speaker 6>That's you're right.

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<v Speaker 8>The closing was over. They said, congratulations, will have the one.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll have the funds transferred to you. On Tuesday, after.

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<v Speaker 6>Martin Luther King's got so they sent him they sent

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<v Speaker 6>him an email because they closed on Friday and it

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<v Speaker 6>was after four o'clock. They said, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>have the funds to you till Tuesday because we can't

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<v Speaker 6>wire because of the holiday on Monday. So you'll have

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<v Speaker 6>the funds Tuesday. The closing company, the title company, John

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<v Speaker 6>already had the funds from the buyer. Right, you follow me?

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<v Speaker 7>Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>So what's the next thing that happened? Tarzan? And for

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<v Speaker 6>anybody out there buying the house or thinking of using

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<v Speaker 6>this particular title company, I want you to pay attention

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<v Speaker 6>to the next thing he gets.

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<v Speaker 7>What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 8>So this is where it becomes a legality standpoint right,

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<v Speaker 8>And this is what I don't know in my head.

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<v Speaker 6>That house is gone.

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<v Speaker 8>My funds will be transferred on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, she had the keys, right, I mean huh y

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<v Speaker 6>Not only did she have the keys, I would contend

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<v Speaker 6>you're not even allowed in that house anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't own it, right, And so I mean the

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<v Speaker 8>keys is technically there's a keypad on the door. So

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<v Speaker 8>but they gave him the code. They gave her the

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<v Speaker 8>code to get in, Okay, So she goes in and

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<v Speaker 8>this is like, seriously a one in a million shot,

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<v Speaker 8>because if all this happens eight days later, I'm this

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't matter. We're not having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>No, if it wasn't the weekend of Mark Luther, her King,

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<v Speaker 6>or if you closed before four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 22>None know where this would have happened, right, And so

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<v Speaker 22>when she goes in, she's now the new owner of

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<v Speaker 22>the house in my head, and there was that giant

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<v Speaker 22>cold snap across the United States of.

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<v Speaker 6>America, iride, trust me. I was in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was cold as hell, and right here in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 6>in Franktown, it was negative ten, right.

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<v Speaker 8>And so she goes in and the furnaces out, and

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<v Speaker 8>what she thinks in her head is the pipes are frozen,

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<v Speaker 8>which is probably technical technically correct, but.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't burst.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I mean the water was not even running to

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<v Speaker 8>the house. I was going to get to that that

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<v Speaker 8>Tuesday once I got the money, okay. And so she

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<v Speaker 8>panics because what did she say? This is stressful, overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 8>I can't deal with all this. And so I just

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<v Speaker 8>told her, I'm like, listen, give me four days. All

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<v Speaker 8>this will be fixed.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to be I don't even know why you

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<v Speaker 6>would say any of this. I'd be like, you bought

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<v Speaker 6>the house, didn't she get the hustle?

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<v Speaker 8>I did, But I'm you know, I'm a Nebrasa guy,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know we tend to be really trustworthy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so that's fine, But go to the next step.

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<v Speaker 6>What did you get from your title company?

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<v Speaker 8>And so the next step was is that they send

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<v Speaker 8>me an email and they tell me that they have

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<v Speaker 8>rescinded the loan.

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<v Speaker 6>They said, now listen to this, John. They said, the

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<v Speaker 6>lender rescinded the loan and they want a title company

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<v Speaker 6>to wire the money back to the lender.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>What I said is like, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's over, it's closed. Let's see. I want to know

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<v Speaker 6>what John, and then we're going to go to the

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<v Speaker 6>update on it with you, Tarzan. But John, just thinking

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<v Speaker 6>of everything you just heard and let's say everything's gospel.

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<v Speaker 6>Have you, first of all, ever heard of anything like

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<v Speaker 6>this happening not.

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<v Speaker 7>After the purchase, because it's a purchase, and once you

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<v Speaker 7>give the keys, it's your conveying ownership to that. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't own it anymore, you're conveying the ownership. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 7>in Nebraska what it is is when they if they

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<v Speaker 7>ever recorded the new loan the title company, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>say so.

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<v Speaker 8>So what's his name Brad O'Brien. He talked, is that

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<v Speaker 8>his name?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's our attorney here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 8>But keep going, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he he looked

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<v Speaker 8>up the statutes of Nebraska and he says they are

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<v Speaker 8>weaker or less stringent in Nebraska than they are in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 8>And he told me I one percent have a case.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so that's an attorney here. Since then, you've hired

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<v Speaker 6>an attorney in Omaha, right, yeah, and you had an

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<v Speaker 6>update with him today. What are you guys going to do?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? So the old attorney was a referral from a

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<v Speaker 8>person from western Nebraska. Mark, And I think I heard

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<v Speaker 8>you saying on the YouTube Old Boys the Good it's

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<v Speaker 8>the good old Boys Club and what kind of is.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's a little town in Nebraska, hold on, just

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<v Speaker 6>a little side story not long ago, in Nebraska, Scott's Bluff.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like ten thousand people, maybe fifteen with the other town.

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<v Speaker 6>I hired a realtor. I was looking at some property there.

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<v Speaker 6>I made an offer, a cash deal on this duplex,

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<v Speaker 6>brand new duplex that had been sitting on the market

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<v Speaker 6>for a while. And what I came to find out

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<v Speaker 6>is every realtor, every title company, every lender in town

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<v Speaker 6>knows each other, and I was the setup and I

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<v Speaker 6>got the hell out of there. John, I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 6>They all knew each other when they When I told her,

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<v Speaker 6>meaning my realtor, how I wanted her to negotiate, let

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<v Speaker 6>me tell you something, she didn't listen to a word

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<v Speaker 6>I said. I said, you're going to make a cash offer.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to say, here's one hundred grand, we'll put

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<v Speaker 6>in nscro tomorrow. You got twenty four hours to make it.

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<v Speaker 6>I told her exactly what to do, and none of

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<v Speaker 6>it worked out because they're all in kohots. Every damn

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<v Speaker 6>one of them's in cohoots out there. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 6>the one, the first attorney you hired, Tars Tarzan, knew

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<v Speaker 6>all these this title company right.

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<v Speaker 8>You basically hit it right on the head. So it

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<v Speaker 8>was a referral from a buddy of mine from western Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 8>The town that I'm from is Alliance, which is much

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<v Speaker 8>smaller than Scott's Bluff. Wow, Like there's like nine thousand

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<v Speaker 8>people there. And I felt during the conference call, to

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<v Speaker 8>be honest with you, is that we were all trying

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<v Speaker 8>to come together in a Kumbaya moment to try and

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<v Speaker 8>find the best solution as a team, which is.

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<v Speaker 6>The worst solution for You're all yes, because they're all

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<v Speaker 6>in kohoots. I'm telling you, these little towns like that

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<v Speaker 6>are crooked as hell, man, they really are. They're all crooked.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, you can look at it this way.

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<v Speaker 6>They're looking out for themselves. Tarzan hold on, I got

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<v Speaker 6>to take a break when we come back way to

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<v Speaker 6>you hear where it is now he can that attorney,

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<v Speaker 6>in fact, I'll let him tell the story. And then

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<v Speaker 6>he hired an attorney in Nebraska, but in a big down.

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<v Speaker 6>Who's never met this title company? And it's a crazy update.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, Pat's got an issue with grease Monkey.

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<v Speaker 6>They're kind of uh, they've been on my radar. A

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<v Speaker 6>little bit later and then a separation agreement with an employee.

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<v Speaker 5>Those can be tricky.

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<v Speaker 6>Donna, hold on, we don't want you getting yourself into

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<v Speaker 5>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 5>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>Try three oh three seven one three A two five five.

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<v Speaker 6>We goidelines full right now, but that number works on

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01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:54.319
<v Speaker 6>and off the air. Three oh three, Martino, I'm gonna

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01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:58.079
<v Speaker 6>have Tarzan finish up with this update. It's crazy. But

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01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:01.239
<v Speaker 6>Tom happened to text? And what did he text you?

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<v Speaker 21>So?

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01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.039
<v Speaker 6>Tom tends to run a little late on his commercial spots.

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01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:08.359
<v Speaker 6>So we talked about this today because during the first

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01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:12.039
<v Speaker 6>two hours of the show, we're networked with other people

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01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:15.239
<v Speaker 6>besides iHeart, so we send the signal. When we go

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01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.239
<v Speaker 6>to break, they insert their own commercials, but we do

1514
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:21.760
<v Speaker 6>live spots and Tom's usually, you know, late on his

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01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.359
<v Speaker 6>live spots. And I told him I'm always pretty much

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01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 6>perfect on mine. When did he text? So he texted

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01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:32.439
<v Speaker 6>that was overtime, lolh. The difference is of first two

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01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:37.159
<v Speaker 6>hours or networked, meaning it matters. Now it doesn't matter,

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01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:41.680
<v Speaker 6>so I intentionally go over to help out the client.

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01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:43.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I can't put it any other way.

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01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:43.880
<v Speaker 5>Tom.

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01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:49.479
<v Speaker 6>So what Dragon was suggesting is every morning, you sit

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01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.800
<v Speaker 6>down before the show and you'll do what we'll refer

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01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 6>to as like lives. So if you have twenty commercials

1525
01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:59.680
<v Speaker 6>before the show, you'll sit down every morning, every single

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01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:03.880
<v Speaker 6>morning and cut twenty different commercials and then Dragon and

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01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.960
<v Speaker 6>Shannon will insert them. But we'll talk about that later, Tom.

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01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:11.239
<v Speaker 6>Now let's finish this up because this story's crazy. So, Tarzan,

1529
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:15.600
<v Speaker 6>you you fired that attorney basically because you started going, Okay,

1530
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:17.000
<v Speaker 6>this guy's in Cahoo's right.

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01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:21.359
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they were. They were trying to come together as

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01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:21.720
<v Speaker 8>a whole.

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01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, tried and find the best and all you wanted

1534
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 6>was the money.

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01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:26.479
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, exactly.

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01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 6>So basically you hired a new attorney. He's looked over

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01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 6>all the evidence, all the emails saying congratulation on your closing.

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01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:37.079
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna wire you the money. Oh we wired them

1539
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.000
<v Speaker 6>the money back you've got. He's looked over everything, and

1540
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.680
<v Speaker 6>what does he think or she I'm not sure?

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01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:47.000
<v Speaker 8>Uh, it's a heat He one hundred percent says I

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01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:47.840
<v Speaker 8>have a case.

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01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:54.199
<v Speaker 8>Naturally, when you transition from western Nebraska to eastern Nebraska, Yep,

1545
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:56.680
<v Speaker 8>it's gonna take It's gonna take a little bit longer

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01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:00.880
<v Speaker 8>for these guys to get going. But his communicat's been great.

1547
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.399
<v Speaker 8>He says, I have a case, and that's where we.

1548
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:06.560
<v Speaker 6>Are right now. I absolutely love it.

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01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:06.840
<v Speaker 8>Man.

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01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:09.680
<v Speaker 6>Let us know what's going to happen, though. It's going

1551
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.239
<v Speaker 6>to be the damages because you have it listed up again.

1552
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.760
<v Speaker 6>So if you sell it for less, they'll still be

1553
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.279
<v Speaker 6>easy to figure out. For the title insurance, if you

1554
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 6>only sell it for one fifty, they're going to owe you,

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01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 6>in my opinion that fifteen sixteen grand or whatever the

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01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 6>difference is. But I think they also you interest on

1557
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.079
<v Speaker 6>that money to your reclaim it. But a good attorney

1558
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.760
<v Speaker 6>is going to figure out every bit of damages you have.

1559
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 6>I think the money you put into the pipes, or

1560
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.039
<v Speaker 6>the money you put into the furnace, they're going to

1561
01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 6>have to recoup as well. I think you've got plenty

1562
01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.279
<v Speaker 6>of damages. Then they're going to have to pay attorneys fees.

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01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:46.239
<v Speaker 6>I think that title company is insane. Mark.

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01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.760
<v Speaker 8>Why can't I get that entire purchase price back from

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01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:50.680
<v Speaker 8>the title Insurance.

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01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:53.439
<v Speaker 6>Well, if you don't, well, the only reason I said

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01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.680
<v Speaker 6>that Tarzan is you said you have a backup for sale.

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01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:56.880
<v Speaker 15>Now.

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01:23:57.159 --> 01:23:59.760
<v Speaker 6>If you sell it now, you're limiting your damages.

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01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.960
<v Speaker 5>If you don't sell it, they could very well have

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01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:04.920
<v Speaker 5>to buy the entire thing.

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01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:07.720
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it all depends on what you do. But man,

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01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 6>please keep us informed on this. I think it's crazy, honestly,

1574
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:15.079
<v Speaker 6>and I'll ask our expert again, John was CMG Financial.

1575
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.039
<v Speaker 6>I have bought and sold a lot of properties. I

1576
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 6>have never left a closing without it being a closing ever,

1577
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:24.239
<v Speaker 6>And that's what they're saying.

1578
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:28.279
<v Speaker 7>Especially if they gave the keys. That's the crazy part.

1579
01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:30.880
<v Speaker 6>It has done. It's over. They emailed them both, going

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01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:32.880
<v Speaker 6>congratulations on your closing.

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01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:34.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean that todd of company had the money

1582
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:35.680
<v Speaker 7>in their account.

1583
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 6>They acknowledged they did. Because they acknowledge they sent it back.

1584
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:40.920
<v Speaker 7>So I mean it should be a pretty easy occasion.

1585
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Guess guess who knew Guess who knew the lender very well,

1586
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:46.159
<v Speaker 6>the title company company.

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01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:49.199
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, you could probably even get days of rents

1588
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:50.079
<v Speaker 7>or missing out.

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01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:52.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, think of all the rent you could have charged, Tarzan,

1590
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:55.239
<v Speaker 6>you got to beat that attorney up. A good attorney's

1591
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:56.920
<v Speaker 6>going to think of all this, but all the money

1592
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.680
<v Speaker 6>you missed whatever the money you missed because of this

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01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.079
<v Speaker 6>plus interest is what they owe you. And in my opinion,

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01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I would also say attorney's fees. I mean, honestly, And

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01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.800
<v Speaker 6>here's the nice part, Tarzan, It's not like they have

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01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.479
<v Speaker 6>to come out of pocket. They're a title company. They

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01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.319
<v Speaker 6>have one insurance and this is an error in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>So Tarzan, keep us informed and thank you for the update.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, did I ask you one question?

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead?

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01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.399
<v Speaker 8>What if I listened it for fourteen thousand dollars more

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01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.279
<v Speaker 8>and you sold it for fourteen more?

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01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:33.800
<v Speaker 6>No, but I think I can Well, if you sold

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01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 6>it for fourteen more, you would have to take whatever

1605
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.800
<v Speaker 6>the title company owes you the full amount, and then

1606
01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 6>have damages that are higher than that fourteen thousand dollars.

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01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Speaker 6>I think with interest, rent and some other stuff, you

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01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 6>might be able to get there. But I mean that's

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01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 6>that's math. I mean literally, that's math. You got to

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01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:58.319
<v Speaker 6>calculate the damages. But they should be buying it for

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01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:01.159
<v Speaker 6>that price. If you can't sell it for that price

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01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.439
<v Speaker 6>or sell it for less, they need to make up

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01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.640
<v Speaker 6>the difference. Quite frankly, plus all your other damages, all

1614
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:09.800
<v Speaker 6>the repairs, all the time, everything, If you had to

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01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:11.960
<v Speaker 6>get a hotel there anything, man.

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01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:15.479
<v Speaker 8>So well, I mean I spent one thousand or thirteen

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01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:17.520
<v Speaker 8>hundred dollars on the furnace to get that fix. What

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01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:18.920
<v Speaker 8>should have been the old owners.

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01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:20.399
<v Speaker 6>It should relisted.

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01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:23.000
<v Speaker 8>I've relisted it for one hundred and seventy seven thousand.

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01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:25.079
<v Speaker 8>I get it. It's gonna take it's gonna take a

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01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:25.880
<v Speaker 8>while to sell.

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01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Like that's the attorney is going to calculate all that, Tarzan,

1624
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:33.880
<v Speaker 6>you are gonna have damages. If you get seventeen thousand more,

1625
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 6>arguably you're still gonna have damages, but that is going

1626
01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:38.880
<v Speaker 6>to bring them down a little.

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01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 8>So there's no there's no way that I can have

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01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:47.439
<v Speaker 8>a title insurance company pay for that closing price of

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01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:48.920
<v Speaker 8>one sixty three five.

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01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.319
<v Speaker 6>They should be because they should have sent you that money.

1631
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.520
<v Speaker 6>But that's what the attorney's for. I'm telling you again, Tarzan,

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01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.960
<v Speaker 6>if you can't sell that house now, I find it

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01:26:58.079 --> 01:26:59.840
<v Speaker 6>in saying that they don't have to buy it for

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01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.800
<v Speaker 6>that amount of money. I just find it insane. John,

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01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:06.359
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you've dealt with title insurance before. Just an

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01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:08.680
<v Speaker 6>opinion on it. I know it's not a legal opinion,

1637
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 6>but what really, how do you think they would make

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01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:12.079
<v Speaker 6>this right.

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01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:16.000
<v Speaker 7>Title company will will settle, pay attorney fees, or they'll

1640
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:18.079
<v Speaker 7>they'll make sure you're your your whole.

1641
01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:21.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you paid them, you paid them. Here's here's what

1642
01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:25.800
<v Speaker 6>kills me. He literally paid them for weird crap that

1643
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.439
<v Speaker 6>happens like this, and they caused it.

1644
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:33.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean title companies. I'm pretty sure you'll get settled.

1645
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:36.199
<v Speaker 6>Let's free him up there, and then if anybody out

1646
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:38.840
<v Speaker 6>there works for a title company, big or small, I

1647
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.000
<v Speaker 6>would love to hear your thoughts on it. One line open,

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01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:46.600
<v Speaker 6>three oh three Martino, Now real quick, Hey, Pat, what's

1649
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:49.159
<v Speaker 6>going on with grease monkey? I got I gotta take

1650
01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:51.359
<v Speaker 6>this break, but I want to think about your problem.

1651
01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:52.239
<v Speaker 6>What happened?

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01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.760
<v Speaker 12>Yes, hi Tom, thank you for having me on. So

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01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:03.520
<v Speaker 12>my husband took our truck, our two thousand and six

1655
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:10.159
<v Speaker 12>Toyota tundra to grace monkeys in Long ran for in

1656
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:15.680
<v Speaker 12>a while change okay, and ten twenty twenty four and

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01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:22.239
<v Speaker 12>about February first he heard He came home and said

1658
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.640
<v Speaker 12>he heard a noise. He usually drive it because I

1659
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:27.119
<v Speaker 12>have muscular dystrophe.

1660
01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 6>And hey, hey, hey Pat, what kind of noise was

1661
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:32.319
<v Speaker 6>it like? Describe it?

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01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:37.119
<v Speaker 12>Well, he said it was a noise he'd never heard before. Doug,

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01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:37.720
<v Speaker 12>are you here?

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01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:38.319
<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

1665
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:39.119
<v Speaker 12>Oh, thank you?

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01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1667
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:40.960
<v Speaker 6>Like what did it sound like?

1668
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:41.239
<v Speaker 21>Not?

1669
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:43.640
<v Speaker 6>Ultimately, what is it? I'd like to know what it

1670
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:48.239
<v Speaker 6>sounded like, like brakes or like an engine. This was

1671
01:28:48.359 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 6>four months later, hurdling like it sounds like possibly overheating.

1672
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:56.640
<v Speaker 6>Hold on, I want to figure out what happened. My goodness,

1673
01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.920
<v Speaker 6>I hope it didn't overheat. And basically it needs it

1674
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.680
<v Speaker 6>engine or something. We're gonna find out and then Donna

1675
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 6>and Sherry, you'll be up next. One line open, three

1676
01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:06.359
<v Speaker 6>oh three, Martino.

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01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:14.680
<v Speaker 5>dot com.

1679
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:16.880
<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1680
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:23.439
<v Speaker 5>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

1681
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 5>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1682
01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.920
<v Speaker 5>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1683
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:30.439
<v Speaker 5>seven to one.

1684
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:30.840
<v Speaker 6>Help.

1685
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 5>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1686
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:36.119
<v Speaker 5>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

1687
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.319
<v Speaker 5>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

1688
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:40.399
<v Speaker 5>sixteen twenty two.

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01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:47.560
<v Speaker 4>All right three o.

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01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 6>Three seven one three eight two five five one line open,

1691
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 6>three oh three, Martino, I'm gonna go right back to pad.

1692
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:58.119
<v Speaker 6>Here's the bottom line. October twenty second, twenty twenty four.

1693
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:01.920
<v Speaker 6>They bring their truck in to grease Monkey and now

1694
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:04.640
<v Speaker 6>we're skipping all the way to February. That's a lot

1695
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.439
<v Speaker 6>of months and possibly a lot of miles. You guys

1696
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 6>start hearing a noise that was kind of like a

1697
01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:14.399
<v Speaker 6>gurgling sound. Did you guys get it checked out?

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01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:14.680
<v Speaker 15>Pat?

1699
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.119
<v Speaker 6>And what was the noise?

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01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:20.159
<v Speaker 21>Well, he told me he came in and said he

1701
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.479
<v Speaker 21>heard a noise, a gurgling noise he hadn't heard before.

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01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 21>And it's like, I'll take it in or I'll listen

1703
01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:32.119
<v Speaker 21>for it in the future. The next day he went

1704
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 21>to pay rent and when he came out of the office,

1705
01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:37.640
<v Speaker 21>he noticed some liquid under the front of the truck.

1706
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:41.479
<v Speaker 21>Also it was, oh, it might be the car that

1707
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:43.079
<v Speaker 21>bos parked there previously.

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01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:48.039
<v Speaker 6>Oh but the next day, but all but all grease

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01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:50.960
<v Speaker 6>Monkey did. I want to interrupt real quick to make

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01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.479
<v Speaker 6>sure I'm right. But all grease Monkey did was an

1711
01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:56.279
<v Speaker 6>oil change and then probably top off the fluids.

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01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, okay, they I'm going to let my husband tell

1713
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:03.520
<v Speaker 12>you because.

1714
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:04.880
<v Speaker 6>Put him on no problem. What's his name?

1715
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:07.880
<v Speaker 5>Hello?

1716
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:08.760
<v Speaker 6>What's your name?

1717
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 8>Man?

1718
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:13.159
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, I'm Doug Doug. So, so what did you find out?

1719
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:13.720
<v Speaker 6>What happened?

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01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 26>Okay?

1721
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 25>Well, long story shirt short. As I went out the

1722
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:21.960
<v Speaker 25>next morning to get my truck to go to the store,

1723
01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:25.319
<v Speaker 25>and there was like a huge puddle of oil underneath

1724
01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:25.680
<v Speaker 25>the truck.

1725
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:26.079
<v Speaker 6>Oil.

1726
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 25>So I popped the hood.

1727
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:28.279
<v Speaker 7>I looked.

1728
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.640
<v Speaker 25>I couldn't tell where it was coming from. So I

1729
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.319
<v Speaker 25>took it to Grease Monkey because it was it was How.

1730
01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:35.279
<v Speaker 6>Low on oil was it?

1731
01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 12>Though?

1732
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, did you put oil in it was?

1733
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:40.279
<v Speaker 25>There was nothing on the dipsticks.

1734
01:31:40.359 --> 01:31:41.359
<v Speaker 6>Why would you drive to.

1735
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 8>Well?

1736
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.520
<v Speaker 25>I didn't know until the next morning when I went

1737
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.479
<v Speaker 25>out to go to the store. And Grease Monkey is

1738
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:49.600
<v Speaker 25>only like a block.

1739
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:51.199
<v Speaker 6>From my house, all right, So you drove it up there?

1740
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:53.319
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I did.

1741
01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.239
<v Speaker 25>And they pulled it in in the bay and they

1742
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:59.199
<v Speaker 25>went and checked everything, and they said it wasn't wasn't

1743
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 25>there a thing, And they said it was a blown

1744
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:05.479
<v Speaker 25>head gasket. And he said, I'll put six quarts oil

1745
01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:07.880
<v Speaker 25>in it and that'll get you home or get you

1746
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.720
<v Speaker 25>to a mechanic Well, about a mile and a half

1747
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:14.399
<v Speaker 25>down the road is an automotive place. I took it

1748
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:17.319
<v Speaker 25>there and it just poured oil all the way there.

1749
01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:19.199
<v Speaker 6>Where did they say it was leaking?

1750
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:24.239
<v Speaker 25>Well, they charged me two hundred and five dollars to

1751
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 25>do it diagnostic, and they called me up and said,

1752
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.520
<v Speaker 25>what the problem was is the oil filter was double gasketed.

1753
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:37.520
<v Speaker 6>I knew you was going to say that. I swear

1754
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:39.000
<v Speaker 6>to God, I knew they were going to say it,

1755
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:41.279
<v Speaker 6>and you're saying, now here's what I got to know.

1756
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:44.039
<v Speaker 6>When you brought it back to Jiffy Lube and they

1757
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:46.239
<v Speaker 6>put oil in it, and then you drove it over there,

1758
01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:49.880
<v Speaker 6>did they put a new filter on it? Veryce Monkey? Yeah,

1759
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:52.560
<v Speaker 6>grease Monkey. I'm sorry, You're right, Grease Monkey. Did they

1760
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:53.840
<v Speaker 6>put a new filter on it?

1761
01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:58.640
<v Speaker 25>No, they did the work at the mechanics that I

1762
01:32:58.720 --> 01:32:59.119
<v Speaker 25>took it to.

1763
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:04.239
<v Speaker 6>No, but hold on, Doug, this is important. I understand everything,

1764
01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:07.600
<v Speaker 6>and I understand. Then you drove it back to Grease Monkey.

1765
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.439
<v Speaker 6>When you brought it there, you said they put oil

1766
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.039
<v Speaker 6>in it so you could get somewhere else. Is that correct? Yes,

1767
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:16.680
<v Speaker 6>when they put oil.

1768
01:33:16.439 --> 01:33:18.560
<v Speaker 25>In he when he pulled it out of the bay,

1769
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:20.199
<v Speaker 25>it was just pouring out like.

1770
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.920
<v Speaker 6>A garden host. When you left, Grease monkey. Yes, did

1771
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:26.720
<v Speaker 6>they put a new oil filter on?

1772
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:27.119
<v Speaker 8>Then?

1773
01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:29.399
<v Speaker 15>No, they did not.

1774
01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.399
<v Speaker 6>Okay, thank you, that's me. Well they didn't even put

1775
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.760
<v Speaker 6>it up in the air. No they didn't.

1776
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:37.760
<v Speaker 25>They just drove it in and they got a pit.

1777
01:33:38.359 --> 01:33:42.119
<v Speaker 25>He went down and checked the oil filter and the

1778
01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:42.800
<v Speaker 25>dream plug.

1779
01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:43.720
<v Speaker 15>I got it.

1780
01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:46.119
<v Speaker 6>Now, now hold on, hold on, hold on. I want

1781
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:48.760
<v Speaker 6>to ask you this now, Doug. So you brought it

1782
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.000
<v Speaker 6>to the other place. You paid two hundred and fifty

1783
01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 6>for the diagnostic. They figured out it was double gasketed

1784
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:56.720
<v Speaker 6>on the oil filter. And let me tell you, I

1785
01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:59.359
<v Speaker 6>owned five good years around town for a long time.

1786
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Bubble gaskets happened. We all try to make sure they don't.

1787
01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:05.600
<v Speaker 6>But what happens is on an oil filter, you have

1788
01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 6>a ring going around the gasket and you tighten it

1789
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:12.359
<v Speaker 6>up against the metal. If you take the old filter

1790
01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 6>off in that rubber ring stuck up there and you

1791
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.880
<v Speaker 6>didn't check for it, then you put the new one on.

1792
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Eventually those two seals, because they're both rubber, will let

1793
01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:25.279
<v Speaker 6>oil out and it can blow out of there quick.

1794
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:28.399
<v Speaker 6>It can do it really quickly, like that same day,

1795
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:30.640
<v Speaker 6>or it can do it later in time. It can

1796
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:35.239
<v Speaker 6>get worse and your seem to get six and fifty miles.

1797
01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:35.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1798
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:38.439
<v Speaker 6>So, but here's what I want to know. So they

1799
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 6>charged you two hundred and fifty bucks. What else did

1800
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.119
<v Speaker 6>they charge you? Did they do a new oil filter

1801
01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:45.319
<v Speaker 6>and everything's good now?

1802
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:47.039
<v Speaker 21>Yep, yep.

1803
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.880
<v Speaker 25>So the total they did the oil filter and put

1804
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:53.960
<v Speaker 25>new oil in it, and the total bill was two

1805
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:57.119
<v Speaker 25>hundred and eighty five dollars and it works fine?

1806
01:34:57.159 --> 01:34:57.279
<v Speaker 8>Now?

1807
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.760
<v Speaker 25>Why because yeah, it's seems to be fine.

1808
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:02.960
<v Speaker 6>All right, get Kevin talking on. I just want to

1809
01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:05.279
<v Speaker 6>make sure on something. But i'll tell you right now,

1810
01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:08.800
<v Speaker 6>if everything you're saying is correct, I think Grease Monkey's

1811
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:11.720
<v Speaker 6>lucky as hell. I think they should be paying that

1812
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.319
<v Speaker 6>two hundred and eighty five bucks. And I guess that's

1813
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:15.439
<v Speaker 6>why you're calling.

1814
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.600
<v Speaker 25>Right, yes, and he goes. I went back to Grease

1815
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.199
<v Speaker 25>Monkey and I went in and I talked to the manager.

1816
01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:22.960
<v Speaker 6>And he just like, I didn't do it. You know what,

1817
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:23.560
<v Speaker 6>he's an ass?

1818
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:27.479
<v Speaker 8>Well you know what, I hate people? Yeah, he is.

1819
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:29.680
<v Speaker 6>He's an ass. And I'll tell you what I can

1820
01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:31.640
<v Speaker 6>just it's an opinion of mine, but he's an ass.

1821
01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:34.640
<v Speaker 6>And I wish I could finish that word, but Dragon

1822
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.159
<v Speaker 6>won't let me So here's the bottom line, Kelly, I

1823
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:42.359
<v Speaker 6>want you to call these grease monkey people and try

1824
01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:45.199
<v Speaker 6>to get this managers on. What was the guy's name, Doug.

1825
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.279
<v Speaker 6>This is They should be so thankful he was.

1826
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:51.359
<v Speaker 25>He was very rude and just like he didn't want

1827
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:51.880
<v Speaker 25>to talk to me.

1828
01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I get it, you know what. They should be

1829
01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:57.319
<v Speaker 6>so damn thankful that they're not buying an engine at

1830
01:35:57.359 --> 01:35:57.720
<v Speaker 6>this point.

1831
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:01.079
<v Speaker 19>Shouldn't they have given grease Monkey chance to fix the

1832
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:03.319
<v Speaker 19>issue before taking it to another shop.

1833
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:05.239
<v Speaker 6>He brought it there, they put oil in it and

1834
01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:08.239
<v Speaker 6>said we didn't do anything. No, they did the typical

1835
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:10.960
<v Speaker 6>in my opinion, Look, grease monkey, hold on, hold on,

1836
01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:14.079
<v Speaker 6>Doug and Pat, give Kelly that number. I want to

1837
01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:17.000
<v Speaker 6>get freaking these people on. I really want them to

1838
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:19.840
<v Speaker 6>come on, Kelly. When you really put on the sweet talk,

1839
01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:22.560
<v Speaker 6>we can generally get a business on. If not, I'm

1840
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:24.760
<v Speaker 6>just gonna light them up because I'm sick and tired

1841
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.880
<v Speaker 6>of shops and I don't care if it's a deal

1842
01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:30.760
<v Speaker 6>in Doug store, I don't care. If it's any dealer

1843
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:33.000
<v Speaker 6>out there, I don't care if it's a grease monkey

1844
01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:35.520
<v Speaker 6>at Jiffy Lub a good Year, I don't care what

1845
01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:37.840
<v Speaker 6>it is, but I'll tell you this, I am sick

1846
01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:41.840
<v Speaker 6>and tired of responses like that. All this guy had

1847
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:43.479
<v Speaker 6>to do was check for a double.

1848
01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:52.439
<v Speaker 5>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

1849
01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.159
<v Speaker 5>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1850
01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:01.720
<v Speaker 5>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

1851
01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:05.439
<v Speaker 5>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1852
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:08.159
<v Speaker 5>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

1853
01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:10.520
<v Speaker 5>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1854
01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.079
<v Speaker 5>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

1855
01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:16.560
<v Speaker 5>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1856
01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:18.680
<v Speaker 5>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1857
01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:22.800
<v Speaker 6>Man, I'm getting sick and tired of places at.

1858
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:23.159
<v Speaker 8>You know what.

1859
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.319
<v Speaker 6>The whole new go to move, the whole new go

1860
01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:30.439
<v Speaker 6>to in the auto repair industry is it wasn't me,

1861
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 6>wasn't me, wasn't me, wasn't me. That's what happens, and

1862
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:38.279
<v Speaker 6>it's getting ridiculous. It doesn't matter once again, if it's

1863
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:41.479
<v Speaker 6>a dealership. We've had some of the best dealerships that

1864
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:44.960
<v Speaker 6>have we've never had complaints on start getting complaints because

1865
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.079
<v Speaker 6>they're hiring people that simply don't know what they're doing. Now,

1866
01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:51.640
<v Speaker 6>hiring someone that can't do an oil change is crazy.

1867
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:55.159
<v Speaker 6>But once again, like I was telling everybody Kevin Cokin

1868
01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:57.720
<v Speaker 6>shared in auto Tech, when I had my good years,

1869
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:01.159
<v Speaker 6>we had double gaskets on oil film. My god, we

1870
01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:04.520
<v Speaker 6>might do a thousand oil changes a week. Of course,

1871
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:06.840
<v Speaker 6>we're going to mess up at some point, But but

1872
01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:10.359
<v Speaker 6>I mean, how many times does it happen to you?

1873
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:15.880
<v Speaker 13>Very infrequent because I don't hire younger mechanics. Most of

1874
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:17.319
<v Speaker 13>my mechanics are ten years plus.

1875
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're not you iffy load people. No, So did

1876
01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:22.920
<v Speaker 6>you hear the story? Were you listening?

1877
01:38:24.079 --> 01:38:24.119
<v Speaker 21>No?

1878
01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:25.119
<v Speaker 13>Unfortunately I wasn't.

1879
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:27.359
<v Speaker 6>So listen to this, and you tell me if I'm

1880
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:30.800
<v Speaker 6>flawed in this. So Doug goes to Grease Monkey on

1881
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:35.840
<v Speaker 6>October twenty second, twenty twenty four. On February first, he

1882
01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:40.960
<v Speaker 6>notices oil dripping. He brings it back there. It's everywhere.

1883
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.600
<v Speaker 6>When I say notice is it? I mean it's way

1884
01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:46.119
<v Speaker 6>under his car. We're talking a puddle. At this point.

1885
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:50.039
<v Speaker 6>He drives one block to the Grease Monkey. They look

1886
01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:52.800
<v Speaker 6>at it, they say, it's nothing we did wrong. But

1887
01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:54.760
<v Speaker 6>we're going to fill it up with oil so you

1888
01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:57.399
<v Speaker 6>can drive it somewhere to get checked. So they put

1889
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:00.279
<v Speaker 6>how many courts, Doug, how many quarts did a grease

1890
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:01.600
<v Speaker 6>monkey tell you they put in it?

1891
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.199
<v Speaker 25>He said that he puts six courts.

1892
01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:07.680
<v Speaker 6>So he puts six courts in it. This guy drives

1893
01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:11.239
<v Speaker 6>a couple of blocks to a repair shop and he

1894
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:13.520
<v Speaker 6>ends up paying two hundred and eighty five bucks for

1895
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:16.760
<v Speaker 6>the diagnostic. And guess what it was. It was the

1896
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:20.720
<v Speaker 6>dang oil filter. That's all it was. It was double gasketed.

1897
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:24.079
<v Speaker 6>So first of all, is it possible for a double

1898
01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:27.199
<v Speaker 6>gasket not the leak or barely leak and then all

1899
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:29.960
<v Speaker 6>of a sudden leaked like a sieve in three months?

1900
01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness, get Kevin back up. I don't even

1901
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:37.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't think I hung up on him. I mean,

1902
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:39.079
<v Speaker 6>anything's possible.

1903
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:40.159
<v Speaker 21>Is it?

1904
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:42.760
<v Speaker 6>Maybe Tom hung up on him remotely? I'm not sure

1905
01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:44.359
<v Speaker 6>we're gonna get Kevin right back up.

1906
01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:49.279
<v Speaker 25>That sounds like his m Yeah, look rude. He was

1907
01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:51.199
<v Speaker 25>very rude to me when I was in there. He

1908
01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:54.600
<v Speaker 25>didn't want to give me number to corporate or anything.

1909
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:56.199
<v Speaker 25>All he said is I didn't know know?

1910
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Is Kevin back up?

1911
01:39:57.800 --> 01:39:57.960
<v Speaker 7>Though?

1912
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.560
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Kevin, I'm sorry. Hold on, Doug, Doug, hold one, Hey,

1913
01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:05.119
<v Speaker 6>sorry about that, bro so so go ahead, double gasket

1914
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:08.079
<v Speaker 6>three months later and then finally that air seats and

1915
01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:15.319
<v Speaker 6>boom it blows it out. Yeah yeah, Kevin, your thoughts.

1916
01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:19.640
<v Speaker 13>That's a long time ago to double gasket. They don't

1917
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:20.319
<v Speaker 13>how many.

1918
01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:21.079
<v Speaker 6>Miles, Doug.

1919
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:22.960
<v Speaker 21>It was.

1920
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:26.520
<v Speaker 25>I figured it was six hundred and seventy six miles

1921
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:28.359
<v Speaker 25>from when they.

1922
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.159
<v Speaker 6>I got it, six hundred and seventy six, Kevin.

1923
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:32.760
<v Speaker 25>They took when they serviced it.

1924
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<v Speaker 6>What the miles Doug, I get it, six hundred and

1925
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:38.800
<v Speaker 6>seventy six miles, I understand fully, Kevin. Six hundred and

1926
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:40.319
<v Speaker 6>seventy six miles later.

1927
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, possible, Yeah, okay, but you know it shouldn't have

1928
01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.159
<v Speaker 13>been driven. If it was that much of a league, well,

1929
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 13>that would.

1930
01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:48.319
<v Speaker 20>Be my contention.

1931
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<v Speaker 6>And Doug, well, here's the deal. Though there's no engine damage.

1932
01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:54.960
<v Speaker 6>All it took was the oil filter. Doug's not asking

1933
01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:58.319
<v Speaker 6>for anything. Besides, they pay the two hundred and eighty

1934
01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:00.960
<v Speaker 6>five bucks, and he actually are already brought it back

1935
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:03.199
<v Speaker 6>to him. I mean, if he's telling the truth, here's

1936
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:05.399
<v Speaker 6>what I want you to think of, Kevin. He gets

1937
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:09.159
<v Speaker 6>the oil change. Six hundred miles later, it starts leaking

1938
01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:11.039
<v Speaker 6>like a sieve. He brings it back to where he

1939
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.840
<v Speaker 6>got the oil change, Jiffy Lube. They say they put

1940
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:16.640
<v Speaker 6>six courts in it but did nothing wrong. He brings

1941
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:21.600
<v Speaker 6>it directly to another shop after leaving Jiffy Lube right away, right, Doug.

1942
01:41:24.479 --> 01:41:24.960
<v Speaker 12>Coming down.

1943
01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:29.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I keep and I apologize to

1944
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Jiffy Lube. I apologize, honest to God, I keep getting

1945
01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 6>a mixed up. I get it. So, but anyhow, you

1946
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:38.439
<v Speaker 6>drive it from grease Monkey and basically drive how far

1947
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:43.880
<v Speaker 6>to the repair shop that diagnosed it. So he drives

1948
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 6>it a mile away, Kevin GE's squirting oil everywhere at

1949
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:52.119
<v Speaker 6>this point, and then they undo it, find the double gasket,

1950
01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.800
<v Speaker 6>charge him for an oil change, in a diagnostic and

1951
01:41:56.039 --> 01:41:59.800
<v Speaker 6>everything's fine. The truck's fine, it's running fine, everything else.

1952
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 6>So if it wasn't a double gasket from the start,

1953
01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:05.640
<v Speaker 6>and Doug's not a liar, what else would it be.

1954
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:09.640
<v Speaker 13>I mean, that's that's all it could be. If they

1955
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.159
<v Speaker 13>fixed it that easily, sure, that's it. It's them the

1956
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:15.600
<v Speaker 13>opportunity first, you know, he didn't go to the repair

1957
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:19.359
<v Speaker 13>shop first. He went back to them exactly the opportunity.

1958
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:21.680
<v Speaker 6>To fix it, and those morons not only not only

1959
01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:23.800
<v Speaker 6>did they put six courts of oil in it and

1960
01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:27.079
<v Speaker 6>say that we did nothing wrong. They let them leave

1961
01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:30.880
<v Speaker 6>with oil just pouring out of that thing. Instead of

1962
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:33.399
<v Speaker 6>telling him to get a toad or anything.

1963
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

1964
01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:39.600
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1965
01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.159
<v Speaker 5>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

1966
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1967
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.600
<v Speaker 5>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1968
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:54.960
<v Speaker 5>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1969
01:42:55.079 --> 01:42:57.520
<v Speaker 5>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

1970
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<v Speaker 5>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1971
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:03.119
<v Speaker 5>all three nine to zero sixteen twenty two.

1972
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Ripped of news, you don't have.

1973
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Come in just as fast as we do.

1974
01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:21.359
<v Speaker 1>A shooter's gonna help.

1975
01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show Now Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome.

1976
01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:32.039
<v Speaker 6>My friends to the only show of this guy. We're

1977
01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:35.960
<v Speaker 6>here to solve problems, answer questions, uh take complaints. Our

1978
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:39.000
<v Speaker 6>goal in life, of course, is to retrieve money for you.

1979
01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:42.039
<v Speaker 6>We had one from Doug and Pat last hour with

1980
01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:46.760
<v Speaker 6>a grease Monkey, and I apologize again to a Jiffy Lube.

1981
01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.359
<v Speaker 6>I've used that name too many times. One of my

1982
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:51.399
<v Speaker 6>good years had a Jiffy Loop next to it that

1983
01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:53.079
<v Speaker 6>I was in a war with for a little bit,

1984
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:56.840
<v Speaker 6>so it kind of comes back. But grease Monkey didn't

1985
01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:02.039
<v Speaker 6>oil change. A double gasketed the freaking oil filter six

1986
01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:05.960
<v Speaker 6>hundred miles later, oils everywhere. The engines find everything's fine,

1987
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:08.840
<v Speaker 6>but this guy was charged by another shop to diagnose

1988
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:12.000
<v Speaker 6>it and do a full blown oil change rightfully. So

1989
01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:15.199
<v Speaker 6>two hundred and eighty five bucks. It's my contention grease

1990
01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:18.119
<v Speaker 6>Monkey should have a big smile on their face and

1991
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:20.760
<v Speaker 6>basically write them a check for two hundred and eighty

1992
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:23.359
<v Speaker 6>five bucks and be thankful they're not buying him an engine.

1993
01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:26.399
<v Speaker 6>I had Kelly call up, and Kelly real quick to recap.

1994
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:30.600
<v Speaker 6>What did they say when you called up to grease

1995
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.319
<v Speaker 6>Monkey and listen to this. This is amazing out there.

1996
01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:36.640
<v Speaker 6>When you pull into grease Monkey, remember you might be

1997
01:44:36.760 --> 01:44:38.039
<v Speaker 6>pulling into this one. Go ahead.

1998
01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:38.479
<v Speaker 21>Yeah.

1999
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:43.319
<v Speaker 24>So the original manager that I believe Doug and Pat

2000
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:45.880
<v Speaker 24>dealt with was fired, was fired and so they have

2001
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:50.760
<v Speaker 24>an interim manager, but they also lost a bunch of employees,

2002
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:52.960
<v Speaker 24>so he is the only person working right there.

2003
01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.000
<v Speaker 6>So this poor sat one person show. Yeah, so this

2004
01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:59.119
<v Speaker 6>poor sap is working the front, answering the phone and

2005
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:02.079
<v Speaker 6>doing oil changes in the back. I wouldn't bring my

2006
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:04.680
<v Speaker 6>car there in a million years. I simply wouldn't. Hey,

2007
01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:06.640
<v Speaker 6>real quick, Doug, what location is this?

2008
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:14.000
<v Speaker 25>It's twenty three thirty four North Main Street where the

2009
01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:17.399
<v Speaker 25>Long Mind or where Yeah, long Lint, Colorado.

2010
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:20.640
<v Speaker 6>So Main Street, Long Mind, Colorado, That grease monkey. I

2011
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:23.159
<v Speaker 6>would in touch with the ten football. We know there's

2012
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.359
<v Speaker 6>only one person working there, which is just insane to

2013
01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:26.960
<v Speaker 6>think about.

2014
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>That's not true.

2015
01:45:29.119 --> 01:45:34.199
<v Speaker 25>I just went by there to take some pictures and.

2016
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:36.079
<v Speaker 15>Video of all the oil going out.

2017
01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:38.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but Doug, Doug, the dumbest thing they could ever

2018
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.479
<v Speaker 6>lie about. It doesn't even make sense to lie about that.

2019
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:43.079
<v Speaker 6>The other guy got fired.

2020
01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:47.239
<v Speaker 25>I'm telling you there's two or three guys there today

2021
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:49.960
<v Speaker 25>because I was just there, not thirty minutes ago.

2022
01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.439
<v Speaker 6>Kelly, that's insane. Hey, Kelly, I was told hold on,

2023
01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:55.640
<v Speaker 6>hold on, hold on, just for the heck of it, Kelly,

2024
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:57.760
<v Speaker 6>would you do me a favor? Yeah, call back up

2025
01:45:57.800 --> 01:46:00.239
<v Speaker 6>there and say, that's funny. The guy we're told talking

2026
01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:03.520
<v Speaker 6>about Doug literally was just there and he saw Doug.

2027
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:05.960
<v Speaker 6>How many people did you actually see and where were they?

2028
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:10.840
<v Speaker 25>I saw at least the kid that was there yesterday.

2029
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I was in the back, you know, doing the paperwork

2030
01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in another car.

2031
01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:19.119
<v Speaker 25>And he and the manager was there.

2032
01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:22.520
<v Speaker 6>What video the same manager that worked on your car?

2033
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:24.920
<v Speaker 6>Could he have gotten fired after you saw him?

2034
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:28.439
<v Speaker 8>No, the same guy that was there yesterday.

2035
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:34.000
<v Speaker 12>Okay, we don't know if if the manager actually did the.

2036
01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:36.159
<v Speaker 6>You know what, None of this matters. I'm sorry. I'm

2037
01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:37.840
<v Speaker 6>just trying to call him out in alive. But that's

2038
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:40.039
<v Speaker 6>not going to help two hundred and eighty five bucks

2039
01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:41.840
<v Speaker 6>or whatever it is. You know what is going to help.

2040
01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Deputy Bow. Deputy Bow, are you up?

2041
01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:48.520
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'm here, Mark, Hey, listen, I want you to

2042
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:51.239
<v Speaker 6>call over there, do whatever we have to do. If

2043
01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:54.560
<v Speaker 6>I've got a rattle Grease Monkey's cage again tomorrow, I'm

2044
01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:58.520
<v Speaker 6>happy to spend forty five minutes telling everybody this story

2045
01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:01.039
<v Speaker 6>out of an hour's show. I will make it to

2046
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.199
<v Speaker 6>Grease Monkey show for the hell of it. I mean,

2047
01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:06.199
<v Speaker 6>I'll give him great publicity. Everybody will know what's going

2048
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:08.319
<v Speaker 6>on there. But see what you can figure out.

2049
01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:08.520
<v Speaker 21>Man.

2050
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:12.600
<v Speaker 6>They basically told Kelly that they can't do anything. Maybe

2051
01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:15.560
<v Speaker 6>possibly next week they could talk about it. Kelly, is

2052
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:17.760
<v Speaker 6>that correct? I want to be very I want to

2053
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:20.960
<v Speaker 6>be very transparent. Yes, yes, okay, So they won't even

2054
01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:23.520
<v Speaker 6>talk about it. The guy says he's the only one there.

2055
01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:26.399
<v Speaker 6>He's working the front, the back. No one else is there.

2056
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:30.000
<v Speaker 6>Somebody got fired. Doug's saying there's a bunch of people there,

2057
01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:33.119
<v Speaker 6>at least three people there. So they're shenanigans going on.

2058
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:36.239
<v Speaker 6>No matter what, they're shenanigans. And if we got to

2059
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:39.000
<v Speaker 6>go through small claims, that's fine and we can help

2060
01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:41.239
<v Speaker 6>them with that. But bo just try to get this

2061
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:44.199
<v Speaker 6>figured out. There's got to be a general manager or

2062
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:48.520
<v Speaker 6>an owner or another manager or somebody that can write

2063
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:50.880
<v Speaker 6>this guy a check for two hundred and eighty five bucks.

2064
01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:53.159
<v Speaker 6>And I truly believe they owe it to him.

2065
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:56.640
<v Speaker 7>All right, I'm gonna call him right after the show.

2066
01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:00.560
<v Speaker 6>Thank you now, Jen Monier Tomorrow John was CMG Financial.

2067
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:03.720
<v Speaker 6>He's been our expert in mortgages for my god, And

2068
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:06.439
<v Speaker 6>I promise Sherry, Donna, David, I'll get you in a second.

2069
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:09.079
<v Speaker 6>But you've been our expert on the show for so long.

2070
01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:12.640
<v Speaker 6>It's crazy. You guys, you do thirty year mortgages, fifteen

2071
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.399
<v Speaker 6>basically any term you can think about. Your interest rates

2072
01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:19.720
<v Speaker 6>are as good, if not better than the competition. Do

2073
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:22.520
<v Speaker 6>you do VA loans? We do do VA loans, So

2074
01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:24.840
<v Speaker 6>you do VA and those are great for people right,

2075
01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:25.880
<v Speaker 6>one hundred percent.

2076
01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:28.560
<v Speaker 7>They're great, one hundred percent. They're great for vas that

2077
01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:31.560
<v Speaker 7>want to get rid of some debts for cash out.

2078
01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:33.600
<v Speaker 6>For cash out. And what I love is you guys

2079
01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:36.399
<v Speaker 6>have started doing reverse mortgages. You're experts at them.

2080
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:36.840
<v Speaker 21>We are.

2081
01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.279
<v Speaker 7>We have, We've come really good. We do our own

2082
01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:42.359
<v Speaker 7>in house reverse mortgages and yeah, it's become a great

2083
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:43.000
<v Speaker 7>product now.

2084
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.520
<v Speaker 6>Unlike a lot of people, and I'm being honest here,

2085
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:50.520
<v Speaker 6>so CMG Financial, unlike other people, you guys, do you

2086
01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:52.520
<v Speaker 6>guys actually fund your own loans?

2087
01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:53.039
<v Speaker 2>We do.

2088
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:55.680
<v Speaker 7>We We were a mortgage bank.

2089
01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:58.399
<v Speaker 6>You're a mortgage bank. You're not a broker, correct, So

2090
01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:01.119
<v Speaker 6>you guys, you're dealing with a person that's giving you

2091
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:01.560
<v Speaker 6>the money.

2092
01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:05.359
<v Speaker 7>We are, like I have direct access to underwriters and

2093
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:08.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, if we have special situations, it's a direct call.

2094
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:09.600
<v Speaker 7>So that's kind of nice.

2095
01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:12.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh to me, that's huge and beneficial. You guys did

2096
01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:17.560
<v Speaker 6>Suzanna and I's loan on our current house in Franktown,

2097
01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:19.760
<v Speaker 6>and I want to tell people out there how cool

2098
01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:22.199
<v Speaker 6>this loan is. Now, we don't own, we don't owe

2099
01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:24.239
<v Speaker 6>anything on the house, and I'm not going to get

2100
01:49:24.279 --> 01:49:27.520
<v Speaker 6>into dollar figures. I'll use a round number. Let's say

2101
01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:30.960
<v Speaker 6>the house is worth one hundred thousand dollars, so we

2102
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.520
<v Speaker 6>own nothing on it, and basically now we have a

2103
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:37.319
<v Speaker 6>eighty thousand dollars line of credit on it using the

2104
01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:39.760
<v Speaker 6>numbers that we're using one hundred thousand. If it was

2105
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:43.279
<v Speaker 6>a million, it'd be eight hundred thousand. And you guys

2106
01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:48.159
<v Speaker 6>gave us a thirty year first mortgage with the line

2107
01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:52.520
<v Speaker 6>of credit. Twenty percent is what we had to basically

2108
01:49:52.640 --> 01:49:54.960
<v Speaker 6>put down on the loan, which we paid off shortly

2109
01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:57.359
<v Speaker 6>after correct And a lot of people.

2110
01:49:57.199 --> 01:49:59.520
<v Speaker 7>Have that as equity if they do it as a refinance.

2111
01:49:59.840 --> 01:50:02.159
<v Speaker 6>The do it as a refinance, they have that inequity

2112
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:04.720
<v Speaker 6>they refi into the all in one loan we'll call it.

2113
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:07.279
<v Speaker 6>And here's the coolest part about it. Now we don't

2114
01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:10.079
<v Speaker 6>know anything on it, but if we did any money

2115
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:14.119
<v Speaker 6>you have in the checking account offsets the principle. So

2116
01:50:14.279 --> 01:50:17.319
<v Speaker 6>let's take that one hundred thousand dollars again, and let's

2117
01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:20.600
<v Speaker 6>say you did use that line of credit and I

2118
01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:23.520
<v Speaker 6>owe one hundred thousand dollars. First of all, I pay

2119
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:27.079
<v Speaker 6>simple interest. Only it's not that front loaded interest. With

2120
01:50:27.239 --> 01:50:27.760
<v Speaker 6>every other.

2121
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.079
<v Speaker 7>Mortgage advertise interest it's terrible.

2122
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:33.000
<v Speaker 6>It's terrible. You pay all the interest upfront, and most

2123
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:35.680
<v Speaker 6>people don't keep their house thirty years, but they'll pay

2124
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:37.119
<v Speaker 6>thirty years worth of interest.

2125
01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:37.479
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

2126
01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:42.199
<v Speaker 6>So it's simple interest. It's calculated simply by whatever it is.

2127
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:45.520
<v Speaker 6>It's not front loaded. Then, any money you would have

2128
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:47.840
<v Speaker 6>in the checking account, and let's say you used your

2129
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:50.640
<v Speaker 6>business or anything for the checking account, and you just

2130
01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:53.640
<v Speaker 6>put all your cash here, some people might sweep. If

2131
01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:57.720
<v Speaker 6>you're a contractor, you could tell your contractor checking account

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<v Speaker 6>to sweep that money into this bank account every night

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01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:04.680
<v Speaker 6>or once a week. Whatever's in there off sets it.

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01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:06.920
<v Speaker 6>So if I had one hundred thousand dollars in the

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01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.760
<v Speaker 6>checking account and I owed you one hundred thousand dollars,

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01:51:10.039 --> 01:51:12.680
<v Speaker 6>I would owe zero interest for that month because I

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01:51:12.760 --> 01:51:13.960
<v Speaker 6>owe nothing. It off sets.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, it pays principle First, unlike amortized, what you're paying

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01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:21.039
<v Speaker 7>all interests, you know, So it goes directly towards principal,

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01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:24.720
<v Speaker 7>and then you pay whatever your interested interest on the

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01:51:24.760 --> 01:51:27.199
<v Speaker 7>principal bounce. So it's a zero bounce as a zero

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<v Speaker 7>interest called.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a full line of credit for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a helock. He locks generally are ten years.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me correct you. So it is a he lock,

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01:51:37.039 --> 01:51:40.359
<v Speaker 7>but it's the only thirty year, thirty year he lock.

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01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.960
<v Speaker 7>And it's the checking account tied to it that also

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<v Speaker 7>makes it special.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so what is the average person that has this? Uh,

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01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:51.039
<v Speaker 6>this is funny. So right now, what's a thirty year

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01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:55.640
<v Speaker 6>fixed seven percent? That's pretty much cross the board now

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01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:00.479
<v Speaker 6>with this product. When you take into consideration the simple interest,

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01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:04.439
<v Speaker 6>and you take into consideration the offset of a checking

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01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:08.119
<v Speaker 6>what is your average customer in this loan paying interest wise?

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01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:11.640
<v Speaker 7>Average you know, effective interest rate is usually less than

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<v Speaker 7>three percent three percent.

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01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:15.000
<v Speaker 6>Or less on that three percent or less because of

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01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:16.119
<v Speaker 6>those two different things.

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<v Speaker 7>And we have a terrific simulator if anybody wants to

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<v Speaker 7>call me that we can go through your numbers directly.

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01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:24.520
<v Speaker 7>And yes, it's because of those things. Because of principle

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01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:25.600
<v Speaker 7>first and the suite.

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01:52:25.479 --> 01:52:28.000
<v Speaker 6>When we first started talking. That's exactly what happened. He

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01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:30.479
<v Speaker 6>sent me over because I'm going, wow, that's a little confusing.

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01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:33.119
<v Speaker 6>So you sent me over a link to the simulator.

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01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:36.159
<v Speaker 6>You put in your current mortgage exactly what it is,

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01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:39.119
<v Speaker 6>what interest rate, and I don't care if it's three percent,

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01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:41.800
<v Speaker 6>whatever it is. You put in real numbers. Here's how

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01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:44.199
<v Speaker 6>much I owe, here's what my house is worth. Blah

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01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:46.359
<v Speaker 6>blah blah, and it'll come down and tell you the

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01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:47.319
<v Speaker 6>exact math on it.

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01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.039
<v Speaker 7>It will tell you exact math because like I said, math,

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01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:51.880
<v Speaker 7>it's math. Math doesn't lie.

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<v Speaker 6>I will say this real quick. It's a little harder

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01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:57.279
<v Speaker 6>to qualify. I mean, let's be honest about that. Now.

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01:52:57.319 --> 01:52:59.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to scare people away from asking about that,

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01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:02.760
<v Speaker 6>because once again, if they don't qualify for that, you

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01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:05.199
<v Speaker 6>can refire or put him in a fifteen or thirty

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01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:07.600
<v Speaker 6>or a reverse, you can do at all. But if

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01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:10.319
<v Speaker 6>they want to check into this product, what I mean

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01:53:10.439 --> 01:53:12.960
<v Speaker 6>generally it's somewhat asset based.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to have equity, yeah, I mean everybody should

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01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.199
<v Speaker 7>look into it. Really, what is based on if you

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01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:21.479
<v Speaker 7>don't spend every time you make on a monthly, it's perfect.

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01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:22.760
<v Speaker 7>It works wonderful.

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01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:25.239
<v Speaker 6>So if you if you're banking one thousand to five

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01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:27.800
<v Speaker 6>thousand a month, it's the cherry on top.

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01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.960
<v Speaker 7>Oh, it really works. And if you have your debts

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01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:32.960
<v Speaker 7>under control, it's the perfect loan for you.

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<v Speaker 6>So three to oh three, I'm gonna give everybody John's number.

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01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:40.319
<v Speaker 6>I'm working on a website for you because I don't

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01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:43.279
<v Speaker 6>like your website. It's too long. Okay, we're gonna get

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01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:45.159
<v Speaker 6>there real quick. But for right now, you can call

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<v Speaker 6>him at three oh three five seven seven seven two

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<v Speaker 6>zero six. Any questions you have. We've times known this

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01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:55.239
<v Speaker 6>guy thirty years. I've known John got at least fifteen

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01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.840
<v Speaker 6>and like I said, literally the mortgage we have right now,

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<v Speaker 6>he did that line of credit three five seven seven

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<v Speaker 6>seven two six. Any questions you have. And really, I

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01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:09.039
<v Speaker 6>have had so many people call other companies about reverse

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01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:12.119
<v Speaker 6>mortgages and they go, man, I don't even know what

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01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:14.199
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about. I don't know if they're in state,

2203
01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:16.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know who they are. I get a different person.

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01:54:17.159 --> 01:54:20.119
<v Speaker 6>You're they're going to deal directly with you on reverss.

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01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:22.680
<v Speaker 7>Correctly with me, And I'm very well versed with on reversal.

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01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:25.399
<v Speaker 6>And when we talk about there's a direct lender, you're

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01:54:25.479 --> 01:54:28.359
<v Speaker 6>talking the direct bank. This guy is the guy lending

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01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:31.399
<v Speaker 6>you the money. The company he works for CMG. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what's crazy. If there's an issue with underwriting. These people

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01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:37.920
<v Speaker 6>are in the same office, they work for the same company.

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<v Speaker 6>In other words, they get along. I got to take

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<v Speaker 6>this break, Donna, Sherry David, you're up next.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 6>five five. Let me see who's been waiting the longest.

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<v Speaker 6>My goodness, it's going to be Donna. Donna, First of all,

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01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:32.680
<v Speaker 6>I apologize for making you wait so long? What is

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01:55:32.760 --> 01:55:34.000
<v Speaker 6>going on? How can we help?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi?

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<v Speaker 27>Tom, thanks for help hopefully helping me. I work for

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01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:44.319
<v Speaker 27>I work for a lumber company up in Woodlam Park

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01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:51.159
<v Speaker 27>almost five years. I went to work on January twenty fourth, Friday,

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<v Speaker 27>got thirty eight, nine o'clock. I was called into the

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01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:57.760
<v Speaker 27>manager's office and was told that my job was being eliminated.

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01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:01.000
<v Speaker 27>He gave me paper work and wanted me to sign

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01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:05.640
<v Speaker 27>it there, which I refused. Got all my belongings. I

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01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:08.760
<v Speaker 27>was walked out of the buildings, very humiliating.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Donald, let me ask you a question. When he

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01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:14.279
<v Speaker 6>said the job was being eliminated? What was your function?

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<v Speaker 23>Originally the.

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<v Speaker 27>Company that I worked for was bought out, and so

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<v Speaker 27>that company my my job title is bookkeeper. Okay, so

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01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:32.319
<v Speaker 27>you were We managed the office and did all accounts,

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01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:38.039
<v Speaker 27>receivablele new accounts, just a lot of other stuff that was.

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01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:39.159
<v Speaker 9>Being a bookkeeper.

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<v Speaker 6>So when they when they bought you out, was it

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01:56:41.239 --> 01:56:43.600
<v Speaker 6>a bigger company that bought out, Not that it matters,

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01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:46.520
<v Speaker 6>So they probably did a lot of that stuff in house.

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01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:52.119
<v Speaker 27>It's a big holdings corporation that bought them out. My

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01:56:52.840 --> 01:56:55.399
<v Speaker 27>job title was then changed to accounting.

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<v Speaker 6>Clerk, okay, and then they said they were eliminating that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so so far.

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<v Speaker 27>Another lady in the office with me that was also

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01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:07.840
<v Speaker 27>accounting clerk, but she did accounts payable okay, and from

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01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:10.079
<v Speaker 27>my understanding, she is now doing my job.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So, either if they combined them or got rid of

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01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.199
<v Speaker 6>both of the functions, it really wouldn't matter when the

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01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:20.119
<v Speaker 6>new company bought it or even the older company. If

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01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:23.000
<v Speaker 6>they want to eliminate that job function, they can do it.

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01:57:23.359 --> 01:57:26.239
<v Speaker 6>But on top of that, even if they just wanted

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01:57:26.279 --> 01:57:29.520
<v Speaker 6>to fire you because they didn't want you there anymore,

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01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:33.000
<v Speaker 6>under most circumstances, they can do that as well. I

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01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:36.319
<v Speaker 6>know it doesn't seem fair, but that is just how

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01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:39.000
<v Speaker 6>it works in the state of Colorado. In most states,

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01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:40.439
<v Speaker 6>it's an at will state.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, well you can go get there's no reason why

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01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:47.359
<v Speaker 6>you couldn't go get unemployment.

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<v Speaker 27>I have applied for unemployment.

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01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:51.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you'll get it.

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<v Speaker 27>Concern My concern is with the separation agreement. If I

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01:57:55.720 --> 01:57:58.560
<v Speaker 27>sign it, I'm not going to get the unemployment.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, what do they offer you?

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01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:03.079
<v Speaker 12>And they're gonna They offered me.

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<v Speaker 27>My five weeks of my current based salary that totals

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<v Speaker 27>four eight and eighty less applical taxes, which basically my

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01:58:14.439 --> 01:58:20.000
<v Speaker 27>figure showed three thousand, eight and eighty. So if I

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01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:23.319
<v Speaker 27>don't find this, then it says I quit, which is

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01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:26.039
<v Speaker 27>a gonna it would affect my unemployment.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so so hold on, this is such just a

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01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:31.000
<v Speaker 6>math question. I mean, it really is. You can get

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01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:34.840
<v Speaker 6>unemployment to someone. Someone helped me, Kelly. Do you know

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01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:38.920
<v Speaker 6>how long can you get on unemployment? Anybody? Twenty nine

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01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:42.600
<v Speaker 6>days or twenty nine weeks? Twenty nine weeks? So how much?

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01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:42.960
<v Speaker 21>What?

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<v Speaker 6>What's like seventy five percent of what you make per week?

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01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:49.399
<v Speaker 6>Is it roughly seventy five percent?

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<v Speaker 8>Kelly?

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<v Speaker 6>Sixty percent?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 6>I just know you talked directly with our expert over there.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 24>So we actually ended up having to render because we

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01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:03.760
<v Speaker 24>had already gotten it for twenty nine weeks and.

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<v Speaker 6>We had to do Yeah, but for the twenty nine weeks,

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01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:11.960
<v Speaker 6>what kind of percentage compared to salary would it be

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<v Speaker 6>or hour?

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01:59:13.119 --> 01:59:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 24>I believe it was eighty percent, But that doesn't include

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<v Speaker 24>the taxes they take out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, but it's still eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 19>Kirk, Why couldn't she take the separation agreement and when

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<v Speaker 19>those funds, when that five weeks runs out, she could

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01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:30.359
<v Speaker 19>still collect unemployments.

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<v Speaker 6>Separation agreement is spelling out that she quit and didn't

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01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:36.560
<v Speaker 6>get terminated. Oh I thought they said if she didn't

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<v Speaker 6>sign it, it spelled out she quit. No, the determination

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01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:44.680
<v Speaker 6>agreement is literally acknowledging I quit. I don't I'm not

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01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:48.479
<v Speaker 6>getting terminated. So I mean, it's simply math. Donna, I

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01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:51.199
<v Speaker 6>would go with the twenty nine weeks at eighty percent

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<v Speaker 6>compared to the five weeks at one hundred percent. Why

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01:59:54.520 --> 01:59:54.960
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 27>I'm just I'm just you know, there's so much legal

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<v Speaker 27>stuff in this paperwork. I'm afraid to sign it.

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<v Speaker 6>Donna. Listen, listen. I feel so bad for you. I

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't do anything right now when it comes to that company,

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02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:15.359
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't sign anything. You could get twenty nine weeks

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<v Speaker 6>of unemployment and listen. People out there that have any

2319
02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:20.920
<v Speaker 6>problem with it, you know, Pound saying, here's the deal,

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<v Speaker 6>we all pay into unemployment forever when something like this happens.

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<v Speaker 6>She got bought out by another company and they got

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<v Speaker 6>rid of her. There is no reason in the world

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<v Speaker 6>why she shouldn't go on unemployment. She's going to have

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02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:36.640
<v Speaker 6>ample time to go out and find another job and

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<v Speaker 6>get her life back together. This isn't her fault. This

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<v Speaker 6>isn't like she stole from the company. And the only

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<v Speaker 6>reason I'm bringing that up, donn, is I'll get hate

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02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:46.520
<v Speaker 6>mail going on. People shouldn't do it. We all pay

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<v Speaker 6>into it. That's exactly what unemployment is made for, is

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<v Speaker 6>what this poor woman is going through. Donna, honest to God,

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<v Speaker 6>don't sign a damn thing. Don't let them pressure it

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<v Speaker 6>into you. And just you already did it. You filled

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<v Speaker 6>out for unemployment and you're gonna be on it. You

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<v Speaker 6>can get twenty nine weeks on it, and you can

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02:01:05.000 --> 02:01:07.600
<v Speaker 6>go out and find another job. You're gonna find a job.

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<v Speaker 27>So if I don't sign this and it and it

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<v Speaker 27>says I quit, is the company then gonna fight me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, listen, Donnie. Here's here's what I call reality. The

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<v Speaker 6>reality is this company fired you. Is that not the reality?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't sign a damn thing unless if they lie,

2343
02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:34.880
<v Speaker 6>and I can't believe a big conglomeration is gonna lie,

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02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:38.640
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't do a damn thing. I'd call up unemployment

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02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:41.279
<v Speaker 6>and go. They called me into the office on one

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02:01:41.439 --> 02:01:45.199
<v Speaker 6>twenty four and told me my job was eliminated. That's

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02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:48.600
<v Speaker 6>what I'd say. They fired me, and then they escorted

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02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:51.640
<v Speaker 6>me out the building. That if that's not the definition

2349
02:01:51.800 --> 02:01:55.720
<v Speaker 6>of getting canned, I don't know what is right, right,

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02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:59.239
<v Speaker 6>So really don't don't. Don't let them intimidate you. I

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02:01:59.279 --> 02:02:01.840
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't even talk to him at this point. I wouldn't

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02:02:01.880 --> 02:02:05.439
<v Speaker 6>do anything but deal with unemployment. That's all I would do.

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02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:10.039
<v Speaker 6>I promise you you're going to get your unemployment. Yeah,

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02:02:11.359 --> 02:02:14.439
<v Speaker 6>and you got to forget about that paperwork. Yeah, forget

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02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:16.800
<v Speaker 6>about the paperwork. Don't let this stress you out. Look

2356
02:02:16.840 --> 02:02:18.479
<v Speaker 6>the fact that you've got to go find a job

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02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:21.399
<v Speaker 6>and stuff. That's fine, but that's why you're gonna have unemployment.

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02:02:21.439 --> 02:02:23.960
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna have twenty nine weeks to go figure something

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02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:26.119
<v Speaker 6>out for a gig. But don't let this company beat

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<v Speaker 6>you up. This happens all the time. I mean literally,

2361
02:02:28.960 --> 02:02:35.279
<v Speaker 6>it happens all the time. I mean, we're listen, listen,

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<v Speaker 6>think of what you want with Eline right now. But

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02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:41.640
<v Speaker 6>he's he's gutting, he's gutting every part of government. I

2364
02:02:41.800 --> 02:02:43.680
<v Speaker 6>happen to agree with it, but there's a lot of

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02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.560
<v Speaker 6>people out there right now that have to make a decision.

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02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:49.720
<v Speaker 6>Am I gonna go on to unemployment? Am I going

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02:02:49.800 --> 02:02:52.399
<v Speaker 6>to take this? It's a pretty good buyout, an eight

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02:02:52.520 --> 02:02:55.680
<v Speaker 6>month buyout or brisk getting fired and have to go

2369
02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:58.359
<v Speaker 6>on in unemployment. Whatever that looks like for the FEDS,

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02:02:58.399 --> 02:03:00.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but people have. My only point of

2371
02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:05.359
<v Speaker 6>bringing that up wasn't political, It was everybody makes these

2372
02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:08.479
<v Speaker 6>decisions all the time. So really, you've got to put this.

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<v Speaker 6>If this one conversation does anything, I hope you just

2374
02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:15.119
<v Speaker 6>quit focusing on these people and focusing on, you know,

2375
02:03:15.399 --> 02:03:18.479
<v Speaker 6>finding another job. Don't worry about the money for a while,

2376
02:03:18.560 --> 02:03:21.279
<v Speaker 6>because you've got the unemployment that you've probably been paying

2377
02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:24.319
<v Speaker 6>into forever. Have you ever taken unemployment before?

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02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:25.880
<v Speaker 2>No?

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02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.800
<v Speaker 27>I applied when I when I got laid off at

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02:03:28.800 --> 02:03:30.840
<v Speaker 27>a school district, but I found a job right away,

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02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:32.159
<v Speaker 27>so I never actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Got in How many how many years have you paid

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02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:35.479
<v Speaker 6>into unemployment?

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02:03:36.560 --> 02:03:37.359
<v Speaker 12>A long time?

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<v Speaker 19>Thank you and Donna, Just so you know, if you

2386
02:03:40.520 --> 02:03:44.399
<v Speaker 19>collect unemployment, it does reflect on their end. Their unemployment

2387
02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:46.640
<v Speaker 19>rates go up as well. That's why they're trying to

2388
02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:47.760
<v Speaker 19>pressure you into this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, no, doubt because they all have to

2390
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:53.359
<v Speaker 6>pay for it, and the deal they're offering you sucks.

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02:03:53.399 --> 02:03:56.920
<v Speaker 6>You said five weeks, right, five weeks? Yeah, I would.

2392
02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:00.479
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't even negotiate with them, forget about it. In fact,

2393
02:04:00.520 --> 02:04:02.840
<v Speaker 6>the way they treated you, the way they canned.

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02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you know.

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02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:05.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to say it's horrible. You gotta do

2396
02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:07.239
<v Speaker 6>it one way. It's never going to feel good. But

2397
02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:09.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't like how it went down. So get If

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02:04:10.000 --> 02:04:13.319
<v Speaker 6>she's got any more questions, Kelly, give her, give her

2399
02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:17.159
<v Speaker 6>my email. I don't mind helping her. And then DONNAE,

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<v Speaker 6>you do have a problem with unemployment ladies, who is

2401
02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:21.880
<v Speaker 6>our guy over there? We know the main game.

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02:04:22.079 --> 02:04:24.520
<v Speaker 19>She can contact us or go through you and we'll

2403
02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:27.159
<v Speaker 19>help her out if something happens with her unemployment or

2404
02:04:27.279 --> 02:04:28.279
<v Speaker 19>she's not here back.

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02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:31.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, perfect. We've got connections over there. If they

2406
02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:34.199
<v Speaker 6>do try to fight it or try to pull any games,

2407
02:04:34.239 --> 02:04:36.279
<v Speaker 6>we know people there. We know the top dog.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

2409
02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:45.680
<v Speaker 5>Excel roofing dot com.

2410
02:04:45.880 --> 02:04:47.880
<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2411
02:04:51.279 --> 02:04:53.840
<v Speaker 5>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation in

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02:04:53.880 --> 02:04:57.760
<v Speaker 5>comparison call Compass Insurance, pay too much your coverage at

2413
02:04:57.800 --> 02:05:00.520
<v Speaker 5>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

2414
02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:03.239
<v Speaker 5>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

2415
02:05:03.359 --> 02:05:05.800
<v Speaker 5>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

2416
02:05:05.880 --> 02:05:09.279
<v Speaker 5>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:11.399
<v Speaker 5>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, if you only listened on YouTube, you would

2419
02:05:16.399 --> 02:05:20.119
<v Speaker 6>hear my singing ability as well. Suzanne loves it when

2420
02:05:20.119 --> 02:05:21.119
<v Speaker 6>I sing in the shower.

2421
02:05:21.600 --> 02:05:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, I sure do so.

2422
02:05:24.439 --> 02:05:25.960
<v Speaker 6>Uh you name it, I can sing it.

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02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:28.880
<v Speaker 19>Culture Club Karma Chameleon was his latest.

2424
02:05:29.039 --> 02:05:31.359
<v Speaker 6>That was great. You're on YouTube, yep. And then of

2425
02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:35.760
<v Speaker 6>course Metallica to George Strait, it doesn't matter. I've got

2426
02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:38.039
<v Speaker 6>it down. Three oh three seven one three eight two

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02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:41.199
<v Speaker 6>five five. Who's been waiting the longest? Here?

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02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:43.039
<v Speaker 4>Sherry? Sherry?

2429
02:05:43.119 --> 02:05:45.760
<v Speaker 6>What's going on YouTube? Sherry? What's happening?

2430
02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:48.119
<v Speaker 23>Is Susan Sweaty Club?

2431
02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:53.079
<v Speaker 6>Oh God? Is this Sherry from YouTube? Who we met?

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02:05:53.319 --> 02:05:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Yea in Spokane?

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02:05:55.319 --> 02:05:57.960
<v Speaker 6>In Spokane, sweetheart, Hey, that is some neck of the

2434
02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:00.560
<v Speaker 6>woods you live in. I have never seen so much

2435
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:06.000
<v Speaker 6>graffiti and homelessness in one block. Literally, it made Denver.

2436
02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:08.439
<v Speaker 6>It made Denver look like Montana.

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02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:12.079
<v Speaker 28>Don't you feel sorry for me?

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02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:14.239
<v Speaker 6>Are they doing raids out there yet?

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02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Not that I know of.

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02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:19.439
<v Speaker 6>No, My goodness. What's going on with your shifter?

2441
02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:20.279
<v Speaker 26>What is that like?

2442
02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:21.159
<v Speaker 6>Your gear shifter?

2443
02:06:21.359 --> 02:06:21.560
<v Speaker 21>Yeah?

2444
02:06:22.239 --> 02:06:25.159
<v Speaker 28>So my two thousand and nine Mini Cooper. It's a

2445
02:06:25.279 --> 02:06:30.000
<v Speaker 28>five speed manual and if it's about twenty five degrees

2446
02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:32.960
<v Speaker 28>or colder, it will not move.

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02:06:33.319 --> 02:06:35.840
<v Speaker 6>Let's do this. Let's get it will not move. Kelly,

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02:06:35.920 --> 02:06:38.079
<v Speaker 6>Get Jeff Thick real quick. Hold on, Cherry. I bet

2449
02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:40.119
<v Speaker 6>we have an answer to that in a minute. And

2450
02:06:40.159 --> 02:06:42.520
<v Speaker 6>the only reason I'm speeding up to conversation is I

2451
02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:44.479
<v Speaker 6>just looked at the clock. As soon as I have

2452
02:06:44.600 --> 02:06:47.279
<v Speaker 6>Jeff on, we'll figure out how to fix that. Karen,

2453
02:06:47.359 --> 02:06:57.439
<v Speaker 6>what's going on with you? Karen? Hello, Hey, Karen, what's happening?

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02:06:59.159 --> 02:06:59.359
<v Speaker 15>Hey?

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02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:00.239
<v Speaker 18>Uh?

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02:07:00.479 --> 02:07:00.680
<v Speaker 21>You know.

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02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:07.439
<v Speaker 23>I have a small business here in Denver, Okay. I

2458
02:07:07.600 --> 02:07:11.880
<v Speaker 23>have been in this building, in this space for over

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02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:17.760
<v Speaker 23>thirty five years. My lease expired on December thirty first,

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02:07:17.960 --> 02:07:21.920
<v Speaker 23>twenty twenty four, okay, and my landlord, I had a

2461
02:07:22.039 --> 02:07:24.760
<v Speaker 23>new owner took over at the end of October twenty

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02:07:24.880 --> 02:07:29.000
<v Speaker 23>twenty four. The new owner agreed to a month to

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02:07:29.119 --> 02:07:34.439
<v Speaker 23>month lead you know, term tendancy, and he said we

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02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:38.520
<v Speaker 23>were going to talk about my options. Well, just recently

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02:07:38.640 --> 02:07:42.680
<v Speaker 23>I received the is it notice to quit.

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02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:45.239
<v Speaker 6>Or determinating the lease?

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02:07:46.960 --> 02:07:47.159
<v Speaker 23>Yeah?

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02:07:47.359 --> 02:07:50.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so a notice to vacate. So they're going to

2469
02:07:50.159 --> 02:07:52.359
<v Speaker 6>either sell it or they're going to do something else

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02:07:52.439 --> 02:07:56.079
<v Speaker 6>with it. I mean really, unless if I'm missing something,

2471
02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:58.479
<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure. I'm not sure you have a leg

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02:07:58.560 --> 02:07:59.960
<v Speaker 6>to stand on to stop.

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02:07:59.720 --> 02:08:05.600
<v Speaker 23>It, and that's not my you know, intent. Okay, I'm

2474
02:08:05.720 --> 02:08:08.880
<v Speaker 23>fine leaving, Okay, because they're going to raise their they

2475
02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:11.920
<v Speaker 23>raise the rent from nine dollars recents of square foot

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02:08:11.960 --> 02:08:15.439
<v Speaker 23>to fourteen, got it? So I'm not sure that's legal.

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02:08:15.520 --> 02:08:16.319
<v Speaker 26>But I guess.

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02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:21.640
<v Speaker 23>My question is am I obligated to any of the

2479
02:08:21.920 --> 02:08:24.199
<v Speaker 23>terms of the lease at this point?

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02:08:24.560 --> 02:08:27.800
<v Speaker 6>I don't understand your question. Like you long as you're

2481
02:08:27.840 --> 02:08:30.039
<v Speaker 6>still under it, you're obligated to all of them. I

2482
02:08:30.079 --> 02:08:30.920
<v Speaker 6>don't know what you mean.

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02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:35.880
<v Speaker 23>Well, if the lease has expired, yeah, but no, you.

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02:08:36.199 --> 02:08:39.000
<v Speaker 6>Said the original lease expired. Now you've been on month

2485
02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:41.600
<v Speaker 6>to month. That month to month is actually your lease.

2486
02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:43.520
<v Speaker 6>Now that's currently your.

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02:08:43.479 --> 02:08:48.760
<v Speaker 23>Lease, But what what are the terms of that month

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02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:49.119
<v Speaker 23>to month?

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02:08:49.239 --> 02:08:50.920
<v Speaker 6>It would be the same as the terms of the

2490
02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:53.640
<v Speaker 6>other one except for the length of the term. It's

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02:08:53.800 --> 02:08:56.560
<v Speaker 6>just thirty days, meaning either of you could give notice

2492
02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:59.439
<v Speaker 6>in that period of time, but everything else. So I

2493
02:08:59.680 --> 02:09:05.800
<v Speaker 6>guess what would be a specific question you're asking, Well.

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02:09:05.720 --> 02:09:08.359
<v Speaker 23>I asked him, so I have a business with a

2495
02:09:08.439 --> 02:09:13.439
<v Speaker 23>lot of big equipment, you know, big heavy equipment, okay,

2496
02:09:13.840 --> 02:09:18.760
<v Speaker 23>And I asked him for another thirty days okay, you know,

2497
02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:22.600
<v Speaker 23>to get moved and to operate the business.

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02:09:22.359 --> 02:09:23.239
<v Speaker 15>At the same time.

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02:09:23.359 --> 02:09:24.640
<v Speaker 6>And does he have a problem with that?

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02:09:26.680 --> 02:09:29.800
<v Speaker 23>He he didn't. He hasn't even talked to me. He's

2501
02:09:29.880 --> 02:09:32.600
<v Speaker 23>going through his management company, and she told me that

2502
02:09:32.800 --> 02:09:36.119
<v Speaker 23>he is not going to agree to another thirty days.

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02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:38.720
<v Speaker 6>You know what, I think he's crazy not to do that.

2504
02:09:38.880 --> 02:09:41.720
<v Speaker 6>Let's let's let's actually go down that. Let's go down

2505
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:44.600
<v Speaker 6>that rabbit hole this jerk wants to do. Kelly, get on,

2506
02:09:44.680 --> 02:09:47.760
<v Speaker 6>Brad O'Brien. I would say, he can't kick you out

2507
02:09:47.800 --> 02:09:50.720
<v Speaker 6>and within a thirty day period. In other words, if

2508
02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:52.720
<v Speaker 6>he wants to be a total jerk, I think you

2509
02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:55.319
<v Speaker 6>could stay there longer. But let's see what our attorney

2510
02:09:55.399 --> 02:09:57.399
<v Speaker 6>has to say about it. And I would hate to

2511
02:09:57.479 --> 02:09:59.880
<v Speaker 6>have to go down a road so stupid. All she

2512
02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:03.079
<v Speaker 6>he's asking for us for thirty days. I'm picturing she's

2513
02:10:03.119 --> 02:10:06.600
<v Speaker 6>got like forklifts and kind of rental equipment big stuff.

2514
02:10:06.840 --> 02:10:08.600
<v Speaker 6>Give her time to movie you dummy.

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02:10:08.640 --> 02:10:11.920
<v Speaker 5>Hold on, go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer

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02:10:12.079 --> 02:10:13.439
<v Speaker 5>Excel Roofing dot com.

2517
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.199
<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're contenth.

2518
02:10:19.039 --> 02:10:22.159
<v Speaker 5>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison

2519
02:10:22.359 --> 02:10:25.880
<v Speaker 5>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

2520
02:10:25.920 --> 02:10:28.640
<v Speaker 5>of insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven

2521
02:10:28.640 --> 02:10:30.960
<v Speaker 5>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

2522
02:10:31.119 --> 02:10:33.520
<v Speaker 5>customer when you choose Frank Durand the real estate Man

2523
02:10:33.600 --> 02:10:37.000
<v Speaker 5>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

2524
02:10:37.079 --> 02:10:39.159
<v Speaker 5>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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02:10:41.279 --> 02:10:44.479
<v Speaker 6>Try three oh three Martino. Please don't forget that number

2526
02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:47.600
<v Speaker 6>works on and off the air. Three zero three Martino.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to go to our legal expert, Brad O'Brien.

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02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:52.840
<v Speaker 6>Let me tell you when it comes to commercial real

2529
02:10:53.000 --> 02:10:56.840
<v Speaker 6>estate or residential this guy knows everything really quick, Brad.

2530
02:10:57.279 --> 02:10:59.840
<v Speaker 6>Just because I'm up against the clock, Karen had a

2531
02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:03.880
<v Speaker 6>a commercial property lease in Denver. The term was up.

2532
02:11:03.920 --> 02:11:05.800
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it was ten year, twenty years.

2533
02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:09.079
<v Speaker 6>She's been there a very long time, and they've been

2534
02:11:09.159 --> 02:11:11.920
<v Speaker 6>going month to month. There's a new owner involved. Someone

2535
02:11:12.039 --> 02:11:14.039
<v Speaker 6>came in and bought it, and I don't know what

2536
02:11:14.159 --> 02:11:17.159
<v Speaker 6>their plans are, but she's been on a month to

2537
02:11:17.279 --> 02:11:21.199
<v Speaker 6>month lease. They both agreed on that. So a couple questions.

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02:11:21.279 --> 02:11:24.720
<v Speaker 6>One when that initial lease was up and they converted

2539
02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:26.960
<v Speaker 6>and both agreed to go to month to month that

2540
02:11:27.159 --> 02:11:30.039
<v Speaker 6>there was nothing signed there, so the terms of the

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02:11:30.159 --> 02:11:33.199
<v Speaker 6>original lease would still be the same terms except for

2542
02:11:33.319 --> 02:11:39.119
<v Speaker 6>the dates. Right, yeah, yes, okay, So now they want

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02:11:39.199 --> 02:11:42.199
<v Speaker 6>her out let me lock you in, Karen. Did they

2544
02:11:42.319 --> 02:11:44.880
<v Speaker 6>serve you? Did they put up a ten day notice?

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02:11:47.680 --> 02:11:52.039
<v Speaker 23>No, they just mailed, you know, certified, mailed me the notice.

2546
02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:59.479
<v Speaker 6>And what did the notice say? Just roughly vacate by.

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02:11:59.439 --> 02:12:02.840
<v Speaker 23>When February twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 6>So they want her out this when did you receive

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<v Speaker 6>that letter?

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<v Speaker 23>January twenty eight, twenty seventh or twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 6>So they emailed her basically given her thirty days right there.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds like she needs an additional thirty days though,

2553
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<v Speaker 6>because she's got big equipment. She can't just like, you know,

2554
02:12:23.319 --> 02:12:26.439
<v Speaker 6>rent a U haul and move this stuff. So two questions,

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<v Speaker 6>Brad So two questions, Brad, I mean, if she had to,

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02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:33.840
<v Speaker 6>is there any way they could have victor from a

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02:12:33.880 --> 02:12:37.520
<v Speaker 6>commercial property in Denver in that thirty day period if

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<v Speaker 6>it came down to something that silly. Is that even

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<v Speaker 6>a possibility.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, first look at the least and see if what

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02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:46.600
<v Speaker 26>the notice requirement is. Okay, if there's nothing there, then

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<v Speaker 26>it's a three day notice. It's not ten day ten

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<v Speaker 26>days residential. So three days is all I needed. In

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02:12:50.880 --> 02:12:54.439
<v Speaker 26>commercial it has to be three days before the end

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02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:57.840
<v Speaker 26>of the before the beginning of the next rental month.

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<v Speaker 26>So if the month runs first to the end of

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02:12:59.720 --> 02:13:03.119
<v Speaker 26>the month, three d donus has to be given before

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<v Speaker 26>the end of February if it's going to be effective

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<v Speaker 26>for the end of February.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds like they did that, so she might have

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<v Speaker 6>to be out by the twenty eighth, is why you're saying.

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<v Speaker 26>Except mainly, if not good enough for this kind of

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02:13:12.880 --> 02:13:15.640
<v Speaker 26>it has to be posted or hand or in person delivered.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, it's got to be in person delivered or posted

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<v Speaker 6>you oh my god. So basically where she stands right

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<v Speaker 6>now is she would have those extra thirty days because

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<v Speaker 6>even if they hand delivered one now she would still

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<v Speaker 6>be able to go through March, right, that's right, So Karen,

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02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:36.279
<v Speaker 6>you're in great shape. They're just playing hardball and the

2580
02:13:36.399 --> 02:13:38.920
<v Speaker 6>new owner, Brad, won't even talk to her. They have

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02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:42.119
<v Speaker 6>the management company just trying to threaten her. What do

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<v Speaker 6>you suggest she does to answer it? Because everything you've

2583
02:13:45.359 --> 02:13:46.439
<v Speaker 6>said is great.

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<v Speaker 26>Well politely respondent, writing about what her rights are and

2585
02:13:49.800 --> 02:13:53.720
<v Speaker 26>what their responsibilities are for following the right procedures or

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02:13:54.840 --> 02:13:55.800
<v Speaker 26>criminating tendency.

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<v Speaker 6>Karen's you got any questions for Brad and the other

2588
02:13:59.159 --> 02:14:01.039
<v Speaker 6>thing as Honestly, if you don't want to deal with

2589
02:14:01.119 --> 02:14:03.640
<v Speaker 6>that part and you're just more you know, you just

2590
02:14:03.720 --> 02:14:06.039
<v Speaker 6>want to make sure you get your your your time

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<v Speaker 6>right to that end of March, you can call Brad

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02:14:08.680 --> 02:14:11.279
<v Speaker 6>up and Brad can start doing the communications for you.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not going to cost that much. It seems pretty

2594
02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:16.359
<v Speaker 6>cut and dry, right Brad, unless if there's something you

2595
02:14:16.439 --> 02:14:17.319
<v Speaker 6>know we're all missing.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, yes, probably less than well.

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02:14:21.520 --> 02:14:24.960
<v Speaker 6>He's talking lesson an hour of his time to do that.

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02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:27.600
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't even hesitate. I'd call him personally.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay.

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<v Speaker 23>My other quick question was then I would like to

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<v Speaker 23>do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, we'll give you his number when we're done. But

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<v Speaker 6>quick with the question.

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<v Speaker 23>I thought that if I do, if I'm able to

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02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:45.800
<v Speaker 23>get out everything that I need to, you know, but

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02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:50.880
<v Speaker 23>left you know different, you know, sheets of materials or

2607
02:14:50.920 --> 02:14:53.960
<v Speaker 23>something like that. Am I obligated to have this whole

2608
02:14:54.039 --> 02:14:55.039
<v Speaker 23>place cleaned out?

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<v Speaker 6>That's all going to be in the least, right, Brad?

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, normally it's a broom clean. Uh is the condition

2611
02:15:01.520 --> 02:15:02.039
<v Speaker 26>you have to leave it in.

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<v Speaker 6>So she doesn't have to paint or anything. A broom clean,

2613
02:15:05.399 --> 02:15:07.560
<v Speaker 6>but she would need to get materials out right.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, and you could leave wearing wearing chair accepted. Yep,

2615
02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:14.199
<v Speaker 26>you can't leave any of your stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And how long have you been there, Karen? You said

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<v Speaker 6>thirty years? Yeah, so you're wearing tear is going to

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<v Speaker 6>be everything. I got to put you both on hold. Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>Brad O'Brien, I appreciate it. By the way, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>a landlord out there and having updated your lease for

2621
02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:31.840
<v Speaker 6>your tenants residential, commercial, you gotta call Brad have him

2622
02:15:31.880 --> 02:15:34.520
<v Speaker 6>look over that lease. There's so many rule changes, but

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<v Speaker 6>anything out there, I mean, you just heard them the

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<v Speaker 6>Guys Walking book when it comes to property, Brad O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 6>here's the number Karen in for everybody else anything seven

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<v Speaker 6>two zero three seven zero seven three eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 6>two zero three seven zero seven three eight eight or

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<v Speaker 6>o ls law dot com. Kelly make sure she got

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<v Speaker 6>that if she's still there. And then basically John CMG

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<v Speaker 6>find Angel John Clays. He's done our mortgage. We've known

2631
02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:05.279
<v Speaker 6>this guy thirty years. I don't care if you just

2632
02:16:05.359 --> 02:16:09.119
<v Speaker 6>want a traditional thirty year or fifteen year. This guy's

2633
02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:11.199
<v Speaker 6>going to get you the best rate out there. On

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<v Speaker 6>top of that, he does the all in one loan.

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<v Speaker 6>We talked about that. The effective interest rates around three percent.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a little hard to qualify, but it's great for

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<v Speaker 6>some people. It's great for second properties like a vacation

2638
02:16:24.239 --> 02:16:27.600
<v Speaker 6>house or something. And then reverse mortgages. They have a

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02:16:27.720 --> 02:16:31.399
<v Speaker 6>full team that can help you get into a reverse mortgage.

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<v Speaker 6>These are great people. Please call them with any questions

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<v Speaker 6>at all three oh three, five seven seven seventy two

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<v Speaker 6>oh six. We'll see you tomorrow.
