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So leave your feelings at the 32 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.960 floor and let's dive down some rabbit holes. 33 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.840 And let's dive down some rabbit holes. And let's dive 34 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:21.879 down some rabbit holes. 35 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:32.080 Liberal advisory, truthful content, lizard illumina, a. 36 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.080 New World Order. 37 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:47.039 Excuse me? 38 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.360 That was a joke about the world being flat, right, wasn't. 39 00:02:56.439 --> 00:03:01.319 When we are successful, we have a real chance at 40 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:10.639 tas in a world order. You know the government is 41 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.639 live about having the technical name. 42 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.479 Can and welcome fellow truth there's in conspiracy junkies to 43 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:35.680 another episode. 44 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:36.400 Of White Rabbit. 45 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.719 I am your host, Catalyst Jones. And as it gets cold. 46 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.319 And windy outside, so does the political climate and the 47 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.560 conspiracies just keep coming true. Our batting average is at 48 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.400 least eight hundred and seventy thousand right now in the 49 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.479 conspiracy world, we are just knocking them out of the park. 50 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.280 And today we're going to jump into us something a 51 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.719 little bit crazy. I like to dive into the past 52 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.520 as well, because that's where all the conspiracies come from. 53 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.520 And today we have somebody that just wrote a brand 54 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.919 new book and I wrote it down forgot the name 55 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:11.000 of Epic of Esau and Doc Brown is here to 56 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.319 talk about the crazy shit that goes along and what 57 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.360 made him want to write this book. So let's get 58 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.279 into this, DOOC. Welcome to the show, brother. 59 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.519 Hey man, thank you for having me. I love you work. 60 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:23.920 I followed you stuff on Instagram and stuff for a while. 61 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.000 Your graphics and stuff. You can tell that you're kind 62 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.480 of like me. You're obsessed with your craft. It shows 63 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:30.439 and your work, man. 64 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:31.879 I appreciate that. 65 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.680 Yes, it's one of those things where like so I 66 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:39.360 have ADHD and I like gravitate towards things and I 67 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.879 master it really quick and then I move on to 68 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.879 the next. And so with podcasting, it's everything that I've 69 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.079 ever been passionate about. From graphic design, video editing, audio production. 70 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.519 So it's like kind of the coolest thing for me 71 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.240 because it's like, shit, this is everything that I've already mastered, 72 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.839 So I love it. 73 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:02.600 Saying I'll become I'm obsessive, compulsive over stuff. I've not 74 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.279 mastered it yet, but it's, you know, all the creative 75 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.680 juices that you get from that, just from the thumbnails 76 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.839 to the audio to the graphics and stuff. So I'm 77 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.079 kind of self teaching myself how to do all this stuff. 78 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.319 But yeah, it's stuff that I really enjoy all wrapped 79 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:18.399 up and want. It's awesome. 80 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:21.680 Yeah, and you know it's it's always you're always going 81 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:24.319 to be learning. I wouldn't say that I've mastered anything 82 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:28.720 because the tools are always changing and creativity is always 83 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.399 changing from within a person, so there's never mastering a 84 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.519 creative art form. But I will say that, like when 85 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.000 I went to school for graphic design, and when I 86 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.319 was sitting there, I was thinking, like, why am I 87 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.120 fucking sitting here? I know more about these things than 88 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.000 the people trying to teach me. This is retarded, but 89 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.279 creativity is something that's just within somebody, and there's certain 90 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.319 sparks that will Uh, the catalyst will bring it out 91 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.079 of somebody. And it's not something that you can teach. 92 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:59.120 You know, you can teach somebody how to use a paintbrush, 93 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:00.759 how to hold it, and how to put it to 94 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.680 the canvas, but you can't teach them how to paint 95 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:03.240 a picasso. 96 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.240 Mm yep, agreed. Do you either have it or you don't? Yep. 97 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:08.319 On. 98 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.519 So, you were telling me a little bit about this 99 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.800 book before we jumped on here, and I do want 100 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:15.399 to get into it. 101 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.399 But before we jump into the book, man, I like. 102 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.639 To ask people, you know, like throughout our lives, we 103 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.120 have multiple little, tiny red pill moments, but there's usually 104 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.839 just that one oh shit, everything is not what I 105 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.839 thought it was moment. Do you remember what that moment 106 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:31.480 was in your life? 107 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:31.720 Brother? 108 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.800 Yeah, it was a twenty twelve You know, I grew 109 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:37.759 up I'm from the Bible Belt. If you can't tell 110 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:41.319 by my dialect here, you know, from East Tennessee. But 111 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:43.399 I grew up in church my whole life, and of 112 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.279 course had my you know, rebellious streak and all that stuff, 113 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.079 just like everybody else. But twenty twelve, I was just 114 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:55.199 mindlessly scrolling on YouTube and social medias and stumbled across 115 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.439 this guy called Tray Smith from God in a Nutshell, 116 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.560 and he was talking talking about angels coming down and 117 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.279 breeding with the daughters of men and creating Nephelim giants 118 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:12.800 and angels and aliens and just all this kind of 119 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.879 you know, fantastical stuff that in this in these circles 120 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.680 we run in that we find ourselves fascinated with and 121 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:22.279 talking about so often. And I was like, this dude 122 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.959 is just full shit. I know the Bible well, I've 123 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.000 grew up in church my whole life. This stuff ain't 124 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.959 in there, bro. So I started pulling out my Bible 125 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.040 and reading through some of this stuff, and I was like, 126 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.959 oh man, it's here. It's been here the whole time. 127 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:41.040 And then he introduced me to Michael Heiser, uh doctor 128 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.759 Aaron Judkins and uh doctor Judd Burton and all these 129 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:50.879 guys in this circle that holds this supernatural worldview, and 130 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.600 it was like I was reading the Bible with a 131 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:56.240 new set of eyes, and like reading it for the 132 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.480 first time. It was something that I thought I was 133 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.000 so familiar with and knew so well, but I did 134 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:06.000 not know it at all. And I was always a 135 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:08.680 history buff. I loved history, and I always kind of 136 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:13.639 gravitated toward conspiracy theories and stuff like that. So with 137 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.480 this new set of glasses that I had, I just 138 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.600 found myself connecting all kinds of dots with ancient history 139 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:25.040 and conspiracy and cryptids and Bigfoot and just all this stuff. 140 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:27.959 And it just lit a fireman that to this day 141 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.680 I've not been able to quench. 142 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:31.560 Isn't it interesting? 143 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:31.879 You know? 144 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.919 And Saam Tripley talks about this often, that the Bible 145 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.480 is so much more interesting than what they teach us 146 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.559 when we go to church and these organized religious buildings, 147 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:42.879 And you. 148 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.360 Know, I kind of have my theory on why. 149 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:47.279 They don't teach us the cool shit in the Bible 150 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:49.440 and why they've taken out the Book of Enoch and 151 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.720 the cooler writings, you know, like in the Book of 152 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:55.519 Enoch talks about a lot of what you're talking about, 153 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:01.600 with the Nephelom and the Beasts of the Fields and 154 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.919 all kind just the coolest fucking stories, and they've all 155 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.759 been taken out, and the ones that haven't been taken 156 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.840 out it just kind of brushes over, you know, because 157 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.720 it's not taken out completely of the Bible. 158 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:13.840 It does talk about. 159 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:17.440 How the angels came down and took women for their 160 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.720 own and created the nephilium. But why do you think 161 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.559 that the majority of it is taken out? And my 162 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.360 theory is if people don't know their history and where 163 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.840 they're coming from, then they can't prevent what is supposed 164 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:30.200 to come. 165 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:36.240 Yeah, and even just like the Genesis six narrative, yeah 166 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:40.200 it's there, but it's like the theology and the teachings, 167 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.360 they have just really whitewashed it. I knew of Genesis six, 168 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.720 but not in that context. And with that viewpoint. I 169 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:52.720 was always taught that the sons of God were the 170 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:58.919 righteous line of Saith and the Daughters of Men was 171 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:06.120 the pre but wicked, spirited line of Cain. That those 172 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:11.759 two branches of the family tree got together, and that 173 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.399 they bred spiritually wicked people. And these were the rulers 174 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.000 and kings and authorities on earth that were wicked. They 175 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.360 were spiritually descended from this union of the sons of 176 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.759 God with the Daughters of Men. And once I got 177 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.600 to searching this stuff out and seeing it for what 178 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.080 it was and what they actually believed, you know, it 179 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:38.960 was angelic beanks coming down, And then it made so 180 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.200 much more sense to me. And one of my friends 181 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:44.480 made a comment. When we first started podcasting. It was 182 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.799 the first show that I'd ever done. It was the 183 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.720 dig Bible podcast. And my buddy Chad, he started off 184 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:52.960 with us for a few months and ended up starting 185 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.519 a business and had to step away. But he said, 186 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.200 I'll never forget it. He said, Yeah, that seth thought view. 187 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.200 You know, he said, sounds good, but then when you 188 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:04.159 get to thinking about it, he said, kissing cousins don't 189 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:05.200 make thirty footers. 190 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.480 Bro, No, they don't. 191 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:10.279 Yeah, that kind of stuck. 192 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:16.559 And so why why do you think that they hide 193 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.399 this from us though? Why do you think that they 194 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.399 missed intentionally? And it is intentional? Is it the Vatican 195 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.720 that took these things out? Because everybody says, well, the 196 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.159 Vatican took these things out, and I could see that, 197 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:30.039 you know, and we can go back to as far 198 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.120 as the Knights Temple are trying to separate and hide 199 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.600 certain things once they started their banking organization. Pretty much, 200 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.200 you think that's when it was decided to start hiding 201 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:42.480 what our past really is. 202 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:47.080 Honestly, I think that it started as just kind of 203 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:51.639 like a not being forward thinking of us reading these 204 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.679 texts thousands of years later because Genesis six, you know, 205 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.879 you just get that little blurb and us reading it today, 206 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.320 we're like, well, that's a pretty big deal. I want 207 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.240 some more context on that. But back then when they 208 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:07.600 were writing it, they were just like, we're not going 209 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:12.799 to beat a dead horse. Everybody knows about the angelic 210 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.360 beings coming down and breeding with the daughters of men 211 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.159 because we have this strong oral tradition everybody knows. We 212 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.600 don't have to go into detail about that. And we 213 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.279 also have the Book of Enoch that goes into great 214 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.919 detail of this event. So it was like the writers 215 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.120 of the time, it was like, everybody reading this that 216 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.120 what I'm writing here is going to know about Genesis six, 217 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.399 So I don't have to cover that ground. That book's 218 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.360 already been written, that story has already been told. I 219 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.000 don't have to theoretically beat a dead horse. 220 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.080 Right, And we have see how that happens. 221 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.519 And you know, I can kind of put this in 222 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.360 an analogy because we deal with this shit at work, 223 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.120 and it's certain people know certain things that are not 224 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:59.879 in the SOPs. And if you don't know these things, 225 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.879 then what you're trying to accomplish is not going to 226 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.200 fucking work. But these people have this knowledge from being 227 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.559 there so long, they don't think that they have to 228 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.840 write it because it's just instilled in everybody. 229 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:12.600 But yet then when you get somebody. 230 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.320 New that comes in and you just hand them the book, 231 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.080 they're not going to know what the fuck to do. 232 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:18.039 And so it gets lost. 233 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.240 It gets lost just by thinking that that's already instilled 234 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:21.720 in people. 235 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.519 Yep. And that's the thing with even Esau. You get 236 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.600 little blurb about him and then they're like, move on. 237 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.559 But there's so much to the story that's in other 238 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.559 books and other legends and lore, and the people just 239 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.159 writing at the time just are not thinking forward enough 240 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.200 about the new people coming in and reading this kind 241 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.240 of being in the dark. But when you deal with 242 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:48.919 you know, the Council of Nicea, you know, you know, 243 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.879 they got together and got all these different scrolls and 244 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.799 books informed them together to make what we call, you know, 245 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.720 the sixty six book Cannon. I think it was just 246 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.320 one of those things. It was like we just our 247 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:04.279 religion is now being established. We're trying to bring all 248 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:08.240 the people of Rome under the umbrella of Christianity, But 249 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.600 all these other religions they all have books, but we 250 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.039 don't have a book. We don't have a line in 251 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.440 the sand and showing you the boundaries what we believe 252 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.120 what we don't believe in like a standard. So they 253 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:25.159 were just worried about the organization of an organized religion. 254 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.320 So they were like, okay, as long as we have 255 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.679 the Torah, which is the history, it shows our creation, 256 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.519 our rebellion, and fall, and then when you get to 257 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.360 the New Testament that is the redemption and the coming 258 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.919 of Christ and our salvation. As long as we have 259 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.679 the highlights and main points, that's kind of what we're 260 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.799 concerned about. But when you dig in and you see 261 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.840 this seed war of Genesis three point fifteen, and a 262 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.159 lot of people in conspiracy circles talk about the blue 263 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.600 Bloods and the Dragon Court, and these are the rulers 264 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.240 and principalities ruling the earth today. That's part of their lineage. 265 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.080 So of course they want to try to keep that 266 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.039 stuff suppressed and hidden. So it kind of morphed. It 267 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:14.039 started off as a like an accident, like well, you 268 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:17.440 just going to touch that everybody knows, But then as 269 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:21.200 it started curving and knowledge started increasing, it was like, okay, 270 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.240 we're going to keep this kind of shrouded in mystery 271 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.879 as long as we can and not expose ourselves and 272 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:28.840 our agenda. 273 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.120 Right, And then they took it so far as too. 274 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:36.759 You can look at older pictures and older newspaper clippings 275 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.759 and stuff like that, and you'll see giants all over 276 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.919 the place, and you can go on my Instagram if 277 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.720 you want, and I have videos of this shit for sure. 278 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:51.399 But the Smithsonian started taking these these things and hiding 279 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.720 them away and locking them away. And you know, in 280 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.759 my theory is that's where we get these so called 281 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:02.600 dinosaurs from. But they hide this stuff from us. But 282 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.080 yet they are the ones that are in charge I 283 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.960 feel today and ruling things. And I'm just gonna throw 284 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:13.759 a joke out there. Man, have you seen Baron Trump? Yeah, 285 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.600 that kid is a nehlo man. He's like eight foot nine. 286 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.759 Yeah, he's a big kid. And then you got all 287 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.120 those The Adventures of Baron Trump, where you know it 288 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.840 was written back in what like the thirties or something. Yeah, 289 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.840 he's a type. Yeah, he's a time traveler and goes 290 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.759 back in time and his dad becomes the president and 291 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:43.559 he's the last president and assassination attempt blows up Congress, 292 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.120 And it's pretty wild how that stuff's kind of playing out, 293 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.159 especially when you look in and that in the book 294 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.240 the uncle was named don he was a you know, 295 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.480 a big big brain guy from M I. T or whatever. 296 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.200 And then turns out, yeah, uh, they had a a 297 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.480 Dawn that was an uncle that e M I T. 298 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:04.759 Be smart guy. And he was the one called him 299 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.440 by the FBI to examine the paperwork in documents of 300 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.000 Nikola Tesla when he died. Yep. 301 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.440 And then yep, he's the one that was there to 302 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.000 confiscate all of that all of that stuff, right. 303 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:16.599 Yeah. 304 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.839 A lot of people say that Donnie has uh, Donnie 305 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:24.279 has the capabilities of time travel. So we'll see. You know, 306 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.599 that's a fun one to jump into. I don't necessarily 307 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.880 think that that's true. But there's a lot of similarity, 308 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:34.799 not similarities. We don't believe in concert or uh yeah, yeah, 309 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:35.920 it's too early for me. 310 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:36.759 We don't believe in. 311 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:44.359 I keep wanting to say consequences, coincidences, thank you, sir, 312 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.319 and uh, there's just too many in that book to overlook. 313 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.680 And you know, everywhere from it says in the book 314 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:53.880 that he love he lives in Trump Castle. 315 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.799 Well he lives in the Trump Towers, you know, and 316 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:58.279 there it's. 317 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.599 I believe I could be mistaken, but I believe even 318 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:05.079 the address is like dead on. And so I remember 319 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:09.319 a buck three years ago probably when there was a 320 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.640 website that came out and I was heavy into the 321 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.160 Q stuff, and a buddy of mine back. 322 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.000 Then he was like, bro, you gotta check the fucking 323 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:17.519 book out. 324 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.759 And yeah, it's a It's definitely one of those head 325 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:25.519 scratchers for sure. So so you get super interested in 326 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.559 all of this stuff, as we all do. When I 327 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.799 first heard about Neflim as a child, I was like, 328 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:31.640 I have to know more of this. 329 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:33.599 And my mom didn't know about the Book of Enoch, 330 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:35.680 so it's like, wow, that's really all there is. 331 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:39.799 So and so you took it, you took it a 332 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.599 step further and you started looking into it, and uh 333 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.880 so I cut you off right around. You were talking 334 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:50.519 about the blue Bloods basically still being in charge today 335 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.079 or that's a theory that's going around mm hmm. 336 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.920 Yeah. And that's the thing is uh me writing this book, 337 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:04.160 I was I was never a Bigfoot enthusiast, but I 338 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.680 mean I knew, you know, the thirty thousand foot view 339 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.680 that he was this Harry Ape man of the woods 340 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:13.079 that a lot of people and throughout different cultures and 341 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.680 throughout time, have bumped into and reported, and you get 342 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.599 over into Britain and Europe and all these other places, 343 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.599 and that they call it the wild man or the 344 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.759 wood wofs. And here in America you had those loggers 345 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.079 that found the big tracks and got a print of 346 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.160 it out in California, and the name Bigfoot was born, 347 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:38.319 and the Patterson Gibblin films and all that kind of stuff. 348 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.440 You know, I kind of just knew the general knowledge, 349 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.720 but far as like someone that read all the literature, 350 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.960 went to the Bigfoot conferences and watched all the YouTube 351 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.880 videos and podcasts of encounters and all that stuff. That 352 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:55.160 was not me, But I had friends that were and 353 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.400 that actually all this this whole journey started with like 354 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.319 a caddy little joke out of nowhere. Just we were 355 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.359 talking about, you know, Bigfoot with Trey Smith from God 356 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.960 in a Nutshell. We had him on the show and 357 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:11.759 he said, yeah, you guys are from East Tennessee, that's 358 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.720 Bigfoot country. Maybe I should come down there and we 359 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:18.799 go bigfoot hunting and record it one day. I was like, yeah, man, 360 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.599 come on down, and just like out of nowhere, Genesis 361 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.599 twenty five twenty five popped into my head and I 362 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:31.160 was like, dude, Esau sounds just like a sasquatch, you know. 363 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:34.759 For those not familiar that verse, it says the first 364 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.440 one came out red, covered in hair from head to toe, 365 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:42.920 like a hairy cloak. And so I said to Tray, 366 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.160 I was like, well, what about Esau? You think Esau 367 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:49.319 could have been the first bigfoot seed or the first 368 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.880 bigfoot documented? And he kind of laughed and he's like, 369 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.160 I you might be onto something. He was definitely a 370 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:00.480 hairy dude. And it kind of just branched off from 371 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.920 there and where I have a podcast, I started a 372 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.400 second one called The Prometheus Lens, and that's the same thing, 373 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.279 but I just I dive into ancient lost civilizations and 374 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.400 history and the Bible and all that kind of stuff, 375 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:20.920 just like with a Christian supernatural Christian worldview. And I 376 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.759 had Gary Wayne on to talk about the epic of 377 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.799 Gilgamesh like the next week, and so I was reading 378 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.359 through that, studying that, and then I bump into this 379 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.799 guy called Inky Do once again another with our modern 380 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:40.319 vernacular bigfoot. He's covered hair from head to toe, bumps 381 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:45.000 into Gilgamesh. They had this epic battle, and I'm like, dude, 382 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.839 this sounds a lot like this guy he saw. And 383 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.279 just the little breadcrumb trails just kept leading me. And 384 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.240 then I was studying for another show and I was 385 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.119 actually reading into the Book of Jasher, and this is 386 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.519 another one of those extra biblical books, and in there 387 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.680 it says that Esau was out into the field and 388 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.839 that Nimrod was searching for him, and it said that 389 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.680 Nimrod had built up resentment and jealousy and hatred for 390 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:22.240 Esau all of his days, and both of their you know, 391 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.640 their claims to fame was that they were the mighty hunters, 392 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.720 and so it was like they were trying to show 393 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.480 who the real mighty man was and Nimrod wanted to 394 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.920 take him out. So and the way it words it 395 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:39.279 is like he's kind of like gast On, you know, 396 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:42.519 and the Beauty and the Beast, Yes, his hunter, trying 397 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.440 to take out this epic bigfoot creature. 398 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.240 And they threw that in there on purpose. 399 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.799 Yeah, I mean, they might have add And then it 400 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:58.480 says that Esau sees them and it's him and two 401 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:03.000