Speaker 1: Joe Wescalante live from Hollywood. We will be doing two
Speaker 1: hours of the business end of show business, like we
Speaker 1: do every Sunday from five to seven here on k E.
Speaker 1: I B. Sam, Engineer Sam. You are here with me.
Speaker 1: Everything good. I'm coming to you from Boston on across
Speaker 1: the street from Fenway Park. Sublime is playing at a
Speaker 1: concert called Boston Calling tonight and that's over at Harvard,
Speaker 1: a big festival on their athletic field. And then we
Speaker 1: will first I'll probably go to a baseball game across
Speaker 1: the street, but very first, I'm coming to you from Boston. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm three hours ahead. Okay, let's start with the Sean
Speaker 1: Diddy trial. Over the past week, this high profile federal
Speaker 1: trial seen some significant developments, primarily focusing on testimony from
Speaker 1: key witnesses. They put that girl, Cassie Ventura, you know
Speaker 1: who she is. She's the one that got kicked in
Speaker 1: the video.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's the one that swung like the star
Speaker 2: witnesses against him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So she's got she has the she wrapped up
Speaker 1: her thing, you know talking about She says she was raped, abused,
Speaker 1: coerced into these freak offs. So far on the Sublime
Speaker 1: weekend tour. There's been no freakoffs and but basically Combs
Speaker 1: is facing a racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud
Speaker 1: or coersion transportation for the purposes of prostitution. I assume
Speaker 1: that's across state lines, and the prosecutors are areing that
Speaker 1: he used his business empire to facilitate and hide criminal activities.
Speaker 1: This trial will probably go on through late June. H
Speaker 1: They you know, they show that video of the girl
Speaker 1: getting beat up, showing that this is you know, what
Speaker 1: he does. But it, I mean, that's just that's a
Speaker 1: simple assault case. A They have to prove in this
Speaker 1: thing that he used his business to do this, and
Speaker 1: there was a conspiracy and a lot of people are
Speaker 1: in on it. It's gonna be hard. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure he'll be convicted in this case
Speaker 1: even though, but they and if he is convicted, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're you know, I think he might get the bill
Speaker 1: Cosby appeal situation from you know, appeelable issues at trial
Speaker 1: because they're just throwing everything at him. So many people testifying.
Speaker 1: One of the people testified this week was Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of Kid Cutty Sam.
Speaker 2: I've seen him play live at Coachella a while ago.
Speaker 2: He's got some decent songs. I know. The relationship between
Speaker 2: he and Diddy is pretty turbulent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to have a decent car, but then
Speaker 1: it was destroyed by a Molotov cocktail after he started
Speaker 1: dating Cassie Ventura. And he's suggesting that Combs was involved
Speaker 1: in this in a prior home invasion. So that's what
Speaker 1: he's up there saying Combs basically threw a Molotov cocktail
Speaker 1: at my car. And they had former personal assistants testifying
Speaker 1: this week describing buying supplies for alleged sex parties. That's
Speaker 1: the Babo oil and other stuff we heard about. And
Speaker 1: then people who were in charge of cleaning up hotel
Speaker 1: rooms after the freak offs and people testifying to Combs's
Speaker 1: abusive behavior. And then though the girl, Cassie Ventura's mother testified.
Speaker 1: She said that she was extorted for twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and they said they were going to threaten to release
Speaker 1: explicit videos of Cassie after she began dating Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1: Now the defense, what's Diddy's defense? They are challenging Cassie
Speaker 1: Venture's credibility, portraying her as a willing participant in a
Speaker 1: toxic relationship and questioning her motivations, particularly regarding the twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars settlement she received from Colmbs. Now, it is
Speaker 1: very strange how she got this settlement from Comps for
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars and then here she is. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the settlement was for. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess in those settlements that you sign, like, they'll say,
Speaker 1: here's twenty million dollars. You can't say anything about me. Ever,
Speaker 1: unless the court of law tells you you have to
Speaker 1: say something about me. So they usually have a sentence
Speaker 1: in there too, saying unless you're like testifying in court
Speaker 1: and you're compelled to, then then you have to do it. Ah.
Speaker 1: Other news, Aaron Rodgers has weighed in did you hear
Speaker 1: about this? An?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I got to hear about this though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was on Joe Rogan and he
Speaker 1: openly questioned the silence of numerous A list celebrities, including
Speaker 1: Lebron James and Aston Kutcher, who were known for having
Speaker 1: attended these parties. I guess uh uh. His main point
Speaker 1: is not to necessarily accuse his individuals of any wronging themselves,
Speaker 1: but highlighting this like what he calls a culture of
Speaker 1: complicity among the Hollywood elites that influential figures avoid speaking
Speaker 1: out as serious allegations against did He mount and he
Speaker 1: specifically names Lebron James because there was a resurface video
Speaker 1: where James once stated it ain't no party like a
Speaker 1: did He party, but he wishes he could take that back.
Speaker 2: I get the feeling though a lot of times wherever
Speaker 2: Lebron goes, his wife tends to go with him. So
Speaker 2: if anything, if it may not be the act that
Speaker 2: they engage in, but it's the act that they may
Speaker 2: be aware of and aren't saying anything that Rogers is
Speaker 2: bringing up now, I'm I think Rogers also has this
Speaker 2: kind of proclivity to want to get as much attention
Speaker 2: on himself as possible, So him mentioning Lebron James's name
Speaker 2: is going to make a splash in the media. So,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's clickbait right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it caught my eye. He he doesn't care. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't give a dame.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he doesn't need to. He has he's rich.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is he still playing? Is he gonna play this season.
Speaker 2: I think he might be done. I think he might
Speaker 2: be done. He might try to miss the amount of
Speaker 2: comeback but diminished returns at this point.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he spoke up.
Speaker 2: Well, he tends he has a reputation for speaking up
Speaker 2: in the media and saying things that end up becoming controversial.
Speaker 2: So this is part for the course for Rogers. It
Speaker 2: sounds like there's a reason why he continually has a
Speaker 2: microphone put in front of him, because he's known for
Speaker 2: saying stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, Joe Rogan, that's the big one of the biggest
Speaker 1: microphones in the world. Yes, okay, So we'll in the
Speaker 1: coming up in a little bit, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the can Film Festival. And the can Film Festival is
Speaker 1: where you know, the all the prestige films go to
Speaker 1: get awards, and you know, there's a lot of it's
Speaker 1: a movie market. Also people go there to to buy
Speaker 1: and sell films for the upcoming year and they just
Speaker 1: wrapped up. And so we'll talk about who won, who
Speaker 1: are the big winners, and then we'll go to the
Speaker 1: top movies for this week and see what Sam saw
Speaker 1: and what I saw or what we didn't see. And
Speaker 1: ready for traffic. Am I correct? Sam?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a minute or two, but we can
Speaker 2: go early.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we'll just go early and then we come back.
Speaker 1: We will, we'll do those things. Joe Escalante Live this
Speaker 1: time from Boston, not Hollywood. But I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: phoning it in Scalanta live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you
Speaker 1: mean Burbank, but right now I'm really in Boston. This
Speaker 1: week we wrapped up the seventy eighth Annual Can Film Festival, Sam,
Speaker 1: were you there?
Speaker 2: No? Unfortunately I missed it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I wasn't there either. But if you want to
Speaker 1: celebrate a bunch of films you're never going to see,
Speaker 1: it's a great place to go. And they had a
Speaker 1: little sabotage. There was some kind of sabotage that it
Speaker 1: shut off the power for the festival.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, like that, like somebody went and on like
Speaker 2: hold the plug on it or what happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I felt like doing that a bunch
Speaker 1: of times after seeing movies like The Surfer. But I
Speaker 1: was isn't me.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to can at all?
Speaker 1: I haven't been to the festival. But they had a
Speaker 1: music festival. There's there's a music festival they do during January, okay,
Speaker 1: and I and I went to that a bunch. It's
Speaker 1: called the Meet Him Festival. So you know, I've stayed
Speaker 1: in all those hotels, I've uh, you know, been around
Speaker 1: the exhibit hall. I actually I had an exhibit there
Speaker 1: for for Kung Fu Records. And here's a kind of
Speaker 1: funny story. One time I was at the Meet Them
Speaker 1: Festival and you know, I'm built up my record label.
Speaker 1: It's pretty big internationally. We got our big booth. You know,
Speaker 1: people are coming by having meetings. We've got all their
Speaker 1: you know, banners and displays, and and then on Sunday,
Speaker 1: you know, I have my employees are manning the booth
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, hopping on a plane to get
Speaker 1: out of town. I think I had a plane to
Speaker 1: go fly somewhere to to you know, like continue to
Speaker 1: meet my wife or something, to do some traveling. And
Speaker 1: as I was leaving, some French authority said where are
Speaker 1: you going. I go, I'm going to catch a plane.
Speaker 1: And I had a tag that said I was an exhibitor.
Speaker 1: I had a badge that said exhibitor. And he goes,
Speaker 1: you can't leave because the exhibit. The festival is not
Speaker 1: over until four pm tonight or something at Sunday, and
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, but I'm catching a plane. My employees
Speaker 1: are manning the booth. Don't worry about it. And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little language situation going on. And
Speaker 1: they put me in a room for like forty minutes
Speaker 1: and interrogated me and kept bringing all these people saying
Speaker 1: you cannot leave. I mean, it's this is what this
Speaker 1: is what countries without like a bill of rights are.
Speaker 1: They just like they will throw you in a room
Speaker 1: and lock you there and tell you tell them the
Speaker 1: information they need to have. And I was, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to miss my flight, so I'm
Speaker 1: pretty mad and everything. Anyway, the next year, they they
Speaker 1: gave me a really nice like suite at the Majestic
Speaker 1: Hotel to make it up to me. But still that's
Speaker 1: what goes on at places like that. But this week
Speaker 1: Can Film Festival, the big winner is a movie that
Speaker 1: you're not going to see and it was called it
Speaker 1: was just an accident from Iranian filmmaker I'm not lying.
Speaker 1: His name is Jaffar that.
Speaker 2: I may actually go out of my way to see
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Then, yeah, a scary Iranian filmmaker named Jeffar has won
Speaker 1: the can Film Festival. All right, be careful. So he
Speaker 1: won the Palm d'Or. And the US distributor is called Neon.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that Neon? When you watch a movie
Speaker 1: and that logo comes up.
Speaker 2: I can't recall if I have, actually.
Speaker 1: Because you're seeing Marvel movies. But anyways, it comes up
Speaker 1: a lot. And this is like the sixth consecutive time
Speaker 1: Neon has won this award. So I mean the prestigious films,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know how they make money
Speaker 1: on them. Other top honors were from this like a
Speaker 1: Scandinavian film called Sentimental Value. And yeah, I looked at
Speaker 1: all these I looked at the trailer sets. There's really
Speaker 1: nothing out there that compels me to see it. There's
Speaker 1: one called Serrat that looks me interesting. I don't know
Speaker 1: that got the Jury prize, but it just, you know,
Speaker 1: nothing that compelling coming out of there this year that
Speaker 1: I could see. None of the winners anyway. Now, what
Speaker 1: was going on in the US. The US, we have
Speaker 1: what some people are saying might be the biggest box
Speaker 1: office Memorial Day weekend in history. Sam, Can you believe
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I see the people herding into the parking lot
Speaker 2: that I park my car, and usually for where I live.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because everybody saw it coming. There's two big
Speaker 2: movies that came out that everybody wanted to see. It
Speaker 2: was the Mission Impossible movie and Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 1: Yes, those are the top two movies of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Early estimates due point to a record breaking Memorial Day holiday,
Speaker 1: and Lilo and Stitch is potentially going to end up
Speaker 1: at one hundred and seventy five to one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty million for the four day weekend, and close behind
Speaker 1: I'm not that close is Mission Impossible, which is estimate
Speaker 1: to pull in around seventy seven million over the weekend.
Speaker 1: There's some holdovers too, contributing to it could be a
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty two million plus Memorial Day weekend overall.
Speaker 1: That is Final Destination, Bloodlines, Thunderbolts, and Sinners.
Speaker 2: Usually we see this kind of action as in the
Speaker 2: theaters on fourth of July Memorial Day. It came in
Speaker 2: that things are cooking early this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll be a very interesting to see the
Speaker 1: totals It just shows you the movies are it's still
Speaker 1: possible for movies not to die, and and we hope
Speaker 1: they don't die. I saw a movie this week called
Speaker 1: The Chronicles of a Wandering Saint. Okay, it's from Argentina,
Speaker 1: and it's a very interesting movie. It's not really it's
Speaker 1: hard to see right now, it'll start ending up on
Speaker 1: your streaming services. Try to remember it. Chronicles of a
Speaker 1: Wandering Saint. It's a crazy story. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you a couple of spoiler alerts because you're never
Speaker 1: going to see it. Anybody listening to this show is
Speaker 1: probably not going to see it. It's about a woman
Speaker 1: who is It's about church ladies. Okay, okay, church ladies.
Speaker 1: They they're a special breed. I mean, I ideal church
Speaker 1: ladies almost every day and you know, they're all in
Speaker 1: their like sixties, and they hang out of the church
Speaker 1: all the time, and they you know, help out. And
Speaker 1: you know, the this Catholic church I'm talking about, they
Speaker 1: they don't the church, you know, really couldn't function without them.
Speaker 1: But they're also kind of a probably a pain in
Speaker 1: the ass for the for the priests in other ways.
Speaker 1: You know, they want everything done their way and they've
Speaker 1: been there for seventy years. The priest comes in and out,
Speaker 1: new priests, old priest, but in any case, one of them,
Speaker 1: for some reason decides she wants to fake a miracle.
Speaker 1: And why I don't know. It's it's unclear. That's like
Speaker 1: one of the weak parts of the movie. You don't
Speaker 1: really get the backstory. There's a lot of cute things
Speaker 1: in it, and it's you know, subtitles from argent Argentina.
Speaker 1: But she wants okay, so she's trying to see in
Speaker 1: the process of faking miracle, this woman dies and then
Speaker 1: we have to deal with whether she's going to have
Speaker 1: it or not because she was a dedicated church lady
Speaker 1: your whole life. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on what the motivation was for fake
Speaker 2: in the miracle. I'm guessing if it was something like,
Speaker 2: we need to fake this miracle to draw attention to
Speaker 2: starving kids that we have to feed for God, then okay.
Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, it was it was more on that, Like,
Speaker 1: it was more I think it was so she could
Speaker 1: feel special and and uh, I think it made her
Speaker 1: ah like more appreciated around the church. It kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of the lady who who painted that Jesus
Speaker 1: in Spain that ended up looking like a monkey. But
Speaker 1: I actually went and visited last year. Uh it kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me and maybe the lady that did that,
Speaker 1: and uh, she wanted to feel special, so she thought,
Speaker 1: I will fix this, this chipping painting of Jesus, and
Speaker 1: it all went south. And that's what happened here. And
Speaker 1: very interesting because they talk about what happens after you die,
Speaker 1: and it is not inconsistent with Catholic beliefs what they're
Speaker 1: doing after she dies, because there it is basically is
Speaker 1: she is she going to become a saint. She lived
Speaker 1: a saintly life. And then you get into the bureaucracy
Speaker 1: of the afterlife, bureaucracy of of of of sainthood, and
Speaker 1: the the the magisterium of the church does say like,
Speaker 1: if if you are in heaven, you are a saint.
Speaker 1: We talk about saints that are famous, but if you
Speaker 1: make it to heaven, you are a saint. You made
Speaker 1: it there because you lived your life as a saint.
Speaker 1: You might not be famous, you might not be canonized
Speaker 1: as a saint by the pope, but you are a
Speaker 1: saint nonetheless. Otherwise you would never be in heaven. And
Speaker 1: this is all becomes, you know, part of her after
Speaker 1: death journey where she makes some poor decisions. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you. Sounds like yeah, so he's prone to poor decisions,
Speaker 1: this woman. So Chronicles of a Wandering Saint. I highly
Speaker 1: recommend it if you get a chance.
Speaker 2: Let's go to break, Okay.
Speaker 1: Joiscalante Live from Hollywood. All right, Joa Scalante Live from Hollywood.
Speaker 1: By Hollywood, you mean Boston, Sam, cold here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not too warm out here today either. It
Speaker 2: was overcast. You know, we had some hot days and
Speaker 2: then we went right back to the cold.
Speaker 1: That said, I hear it's cold here. I was at
Speaker 1: Bottle Rock two nights ago, and that's a festival up
Speaker 1: there in Napa. It was it was very warm and
Speaker 1: beautiful and wonderful and uh, but now here I am.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of intellectual property cases going on. We
Speaker 1: love these cases, Sam, We love these cases because you know,
Speaker 1: people got their trademarks, they got their copyrights, and people
Speaker 1: are always trying to steal. Basically, here's the latest in
Speaker 1: an ongoing case. The parent company of Iconic toys, r
Speaker 1: us Brand, has escalated its efforts against this company called
Speaker 1: vapes are Us what vape our Us? Yes, its owners
Speaker 1: in New Haven, Connecticut. And according to this pre litigation letter,
Speaker 1: toys r US chooses the best is always the letter
Speaker 1: that comes from the people like, how dare you use
Speaker 1: our thing? Uh? They accuse VPRs of outright infringing and
Speaker 1: diluting its famous trademark. The letter officially calls out vapor
Speaker 1: us as bad faith and appropriation of true kids distinctive logo,
Speaker 1: the r US designation, Uh, the signature backwards are and
Speaker 1: even the color scheme and the bubble font. Can you
Speaker 1: believe that, Sam, they took the bubble font?
Speaker 2: Did they even bring in Jeffrey the giraft?
Speaker 1: No, but they have Baby G running around all drunk
Speaker 1: on gummies and so they they of course, they accuse
Speaker 1: VPRs of of attempting to profit from the you know,
Speaker 1: the the the good will created by Jeffrey and Baby
Speaker 1: G and GG you know, throughout the years. So this
Speaker 1: is what happens to these things, you know. Choys US
Speaker 1: is emphasizing they want absolutely no association with such business
Speaker 1: selling smoking and drug related products, stating that such a
Speaker 1: juxtaposition tarnishes their carefully crafted fund Safe Kid Friendly Image
Speaker 1: Company asserts the actions constitute a trademark and trade dress infringement,
Speaker 1: dilution of their mark, an unfair competition under both federal
Speaker 1: and state laws, seeking a permanent injunction. SAM the halt
Speaker 1: Vapius's use of their intellectual property, alongside significant financial damages
Speaker 1: and the letter and previously demanded immediate cessation of the
Speaker 1: infringing uses and citing past cases where they already destroyed
Speaker 1: someone called smokes RS. So if you think we're kidding
Speaker 1: around here, vapors, just read your history books. We've already
Speaker 1: demolished you kinds of people. And you might think, Sam,
Speaker 1: what happened to toys r US? I thought they went bankrupt?
Speaker 1: How are these guys still you know, running around swiming?
Speaker 1: And that's probably what these potheas stock. They probably thought, hey,
Speaker 1: there's no toys dress anymore. We can use we can
Speaker 1: use this. And but I mean to be honest, haven't
Speaker 1: we seen a million RS businesses? You know, yeah, Burger's
Speaker 1: RS or everything RS. And it's not like it's not then.
Speaker 1: There were probably this stuff before there was toys RS.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got the feeling that they were just doing
Speaker 2: it because they I mean, I think they knew that
Speaker 2: they went bankrupt, but they also know that the brand
Speaker 2: still exists, and I think like some Macy's are now
Speaker 2: having like their toy department be Toys or be Toys
Speaker 2: r US. They haven't branded as that. Now. The problem
Speaker 2: is that these guys are going around. I'm just guessing
Speaker 2: that they just wanted to wait for a cease and
Speaker 2: desist before doing anything. This gives them cloud.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're screwed and this is going to
Speaker 1: cost them a lot of money and there's nothing good
Speaker 1: will come of it for them because they used to
Speaker 1: the font a little bit. So someone bought Toys r
Speaker 1: US like a few years ago. They bought the brand,
Speaker 1: and they try to rehabilitate the brand. They opened up
Speaker 1: a few new stores, like you say, they've got some
Speaker 1: like stores within stores. They're trying to protect this brand
Speaker 1: and they then they paid money for it and they
Speaker 1: can't have these uh Vapors weren't in the good room.
Speaker 1: So the problem with the problem that if they would
Speaker 1: just call themselves vapor Us and not use the logo,
Speaker 1: they probably never would have been on the radar of
Speaker 1: Toys rs. But they wanted to use it. All because
Speaker 1: they wanted to be clever. They were like, hey, make
Speaker 1: it just like toys r US and they did and
Speaker 1: they are hodido as they say in the Hispanic community.
Speaker 2: Well, it would be like if a place, a weed
Speaker 2: shop opened up, like an edible place called mcweed's and
Speaker 2: use the exact same font and logo as McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you can go mcweed's. You can have a
Speaker 1: way to get away with that. But if you use
Speaker 1: the same m and the arches and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: that's when you get burned, because that's when it looks
Speaker 1: at the look and the feel and now you're you
Speaker 1: got and and the damages are are pretty bad in
Speaker 1: these trademark cases, so it's nothing to screw around with.
Speaker 1: There's another thing that's intellectual property case floating around. This
Speaker 1: happens every once in a while celebrities take photos that
Speaker 1: paparazzi take of themselves and then they use them on
Speaker 1: their Instagram without permission and they get a lawsuit. So
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez has two lawsuits right now. They allege that
Speaker 1: she posted two copyrighted paparazzi photos of herself from a
Speaker 1: pre Golden Globes party in January of twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: to her Instagram and also to the X platform, and
Speaker 1: the lawsuit claims that Lopez's unauthorized use of the images
Speaker 1: was commercial in nature, serving to promote her public appearances,
Speaker 1: boost user engagement, and highlight her fashion affiliation and brand partnerships.
Speaker 1: These paparazzi guys are each seeking up to one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars in damages per photo. According to
Speaker 1: plaintiff's Lopez's representatives had verbally agreed to a monetary settlement
Speaker 1: after being contacted, but Lopez has reportedly not signed the
Speaker 1: written agreement or paid the agreement the agreed upon him out.
Speaker 1: This is not the first time Lopez has faced similar
Speaker 1: copyright lawsuits for posting paparazzi photos of herself. But I
Speaker 1: guess if she likes a photo of herself, she's just
Speaker 1: gonna post. She's gonna post it, Sam. If she looks good,
Speaker 1: she's just gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I got the feelings she has like an intern or
Speaker 2: someone controlling the account, and they were just too lazy
Speaker 2: to find actual pictures of her that were taken by
Speaker 2: her or by her people. So she went online, did
Speaker 2: a Google search and just picked whichever pictures looked good
Speaker 2: of her, regardless of who took it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right. So I mean, but it begs
Speaker 1: a question. Paparazzi people, they're running around, they're bothering these people.
Speaker 1: They take pictures and then and and Jennifer doesn't want
Speaker 1: them to take these pictures. These guys sell those photos
Speaker 1: to the tabloids. They make money. You can't even post it.
Speaker 1: That's the outrage that most people would would say, this
Speaker 1: is not fair. But this is the way our intellectual
Speaker 1: property laws work is if you take a photo, you
Speaker 1: own a copyright in that photo, and so you can
Speaker 1: she can prevent you from using that for certain uses.
Speaker 1: That's why she said. These guys are saying this is commercial.
Speaker 1: Their use is commercial. That makes the damages more harder
Speaker 1: to avoid because it's not editorial. Now, that would be
Speaker 1: the opposite of commercial. Editorial would be like, well, look
Speaker 1: at Jennifer Lopez walking out downtown with Ben Affleck. You
Speaker 1: know this mean they're back together. That would be like editorial,
Speaker 1: we're doing a story, but she's popular. But commercial will
Speaker 1: be like putting it on a T shirt and trying
Speaker 1: to sell it, making posters out of it. And these
Speaker 1: guys might be a stretch, but they're saying she would say, look,
Speaker 1: this is editorial. I mean just I just here's me
Speaker 1: doing this. You know, it's just a picture of me.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sell anything. I don't make any
Speaker 1: money from my Instagram. They're going to do you.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. They may be looking at it
Speaker 2: from the perspective of everything that she posts is marketable,
Speaker 2: no matter if it's something that's personal private, or if
Speaker 2: it's like associated with any business. Everything she does has
Speaker 2: money attached to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, I don't feel sorry for these guys
Speaker 1: one bit. But this is just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: And we got another one that it's still ongoing. But
Speaker 1: the save it.
Speaker 2: Hold on to it because we got to go to
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 1: I can't wait, Sam, Okay, let it out now, all right,
Speaker 1: it's it has to do with Moanna, and not only Molana. Sayah,
Speaker 1: but you guessed it Moana too. Oh yeah, not to
Speaker 1: be confused with mohaw Dos, which is the nun sequel.
Speaker 1: All right, j let's go out to a line from
Speaker 1: Hollywood back after the traffic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, joscants a line from Hollywood by Hollywood you mean Burbank,
Speaker 3: but today Boston might sound a little bit weird because
Speaker 3: we're coming through some weird Boston transmissions.
Speaker 1: But uh, let's go. Let's go right to it. Sam.
Speaker 1: There is a there's a there's a guy who wrote
Speaker 1: a movie called Bucky, Bucky the Beaver or BUCkies. I
Speaker 1: assume he's a beaver, but because anybody named Bucky is
Speaker 1: is a beaver to me. But there's some some Bucky
Speaker 1: movie guy says Molana was stolen from him, and he
Speaker 1: I mean any movie. I will tell you any movie
Speaker 1: that that Disney puts out. There are immediate cease and
Speaker 1: desist letters every movie. Everybody is saying, you stole my
Speaker 1: movie because and usually these people that are following these
Speaker 1: lawsuits are not players in the Hollywood community. They're not
Speaker 1: They're people who are trying to get in. And anybody
Speaker 1: can go out and write a script. You can get
Speaker 1: on the internet and say like, how do you write
Speaker 1: a script? And you follow these easy steps and you go,
Speaker 1: you got an idea, do these That's how I first
Speaker 1: wrote my first one. Eight steps, just eight. This is
Speaker 1: an eight part template that I used and worked out
Speaker 1: quite well. But people then they send them to someone
Speaker 1: and then they send them to Disney. That's why if
Speaker 1: you send something to Disney, they're not even going to open.
Speaker 1: It has to come from a credible agent or an
Speaker 1: attorney that they know. And this is why this it's uh, actually,
Speaker 1: the California Federal jury already said on Monday, or not Monday,
Speaker 1: but just a couple of mon days ago that Disney's
Speaker 1: uh film Mohana did not infringe on this guy's copyrights
Speaker 1: so related to his planned movie about a teenage hero
Speaker 1: in ancient Polynesia. And that's I guess you know.
Speaker 2: What similar theme?
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, So the jury rejected buck Woodhall's
Speaker 1: argument that Disney unlockfully copied from a script and storyboards
Speaker 1: and other content that he shared with a Film X
Speaker 1: executive starting in the yearly two thousands for his film Bucky.
Speaker 1: According to a spokesman for the Disney law firm, UH
Speaker 1: now what al's eternal, Gustavo Lage, I don't know, said
Speaker 1: they were disappointed with the verdict but would eventually evaluate
Speaker 1: Bucky's options. And uh, this guy, Bucky lives in Baja
Speaker 1: and Taos.
Speaker 2: Baja, Buddy, Yeah, Baja.
Speaker 1: Bucky first to Disney in twenty twenty, he said, he shared,
Speaker 1: and what do we have to have for a copyright claim? Sam,
Speaker 1: We will have to have number one substantial similarity, and
Speaker 1: number two we have to have access if you can.
Speaker 1: And the more the more similarity you have, the less
Speaker 1: access you must prove. Okay, the less similarity you have,
Speaker 1: the more access you must prove. Now, in this case,
Speaker 1: he said, he shared his materials about this teenage surfer
Speaker 1: who tied travels to ancient Polynesia with a film executive
Speaker 1: named Jenny Marchik, whose stepsister is Woodhall's sister in law.
Speaker 1: You're following me, yeah. The lawsuit said that Woodall in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven sent a final draft script for Bucky to Marchik,
Speaker 1: who is a film a film executive somewhere, and she
Speaker 1: allegedly passed it off to Disney. He argued that Mohana
Speaker 1: copied Bucky, citing similarities in their plots, settings, and other elements. Now,
Speaker 1: Disney argued that they never saw what All's crazy script
Speaker 1: in this and they didn't copy it, and they said
Speaker 1: that they're not similar enough to support the claims, and
Speaker 1: the court already said they weren't. And he asked it
Speaker 1: for his lawsuit. He asked for what, one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars and the case, but he was too late because
Speaker 1: he didn't do it in time. It was time bard
Speaker 1: for some reason. So he could only go after their
Speaker 1: video distribution of it because they're still selling copies of
Speaker 1: the movie that they stole from him. But okay, so
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what he's doing. He's already lost. But
Speaker 1: he but he filed another case for more on a
Speaker 1: two and that one he's asking for ten billion in
Speaker 1: damages that.
Speaker 2: At some point, doesn't it become frivolous, Like you got
Speaker 2: shot down on the first one, isn't necessary to launch
Speaker 2: a tenfold attack on the second one.
Speaker 1: Well, he launched the second one before the he lost
Speaker 1: the first one. And this went to trial. So this
Speaker 1: guy's nuts if he's going to spend all this money
Speaker 1: and go to trial. That's hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: It went to a trial. But he thought he was
Speaker 1: really going to cash in. He probably borrowed money from
Speaker 1: relatives and because he's gonna, you know, finally prove they
Speaker 1: took his thing. Thing is like, there's so many stories
Speaker 1: floating around, there's so many options that Disney has, They
Speaker 1: don't need to go around stealing stories from people. And
Speaker 1: a lot of stories are very similar anyway, there are tropes.
Speaker 1: That's why they call them tropes. They're similar story devices.
Speaker 1: And so these are terrible cases ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: percent of the time, and they're usually filed by lunatics.
Speaker 1: This person, you know, could believe in their heart of
Speaker 1: hearts that this actually happened, but they should know do
Speaker 1: some research to see how many of these things actually work.
Speaker 1: And it looks like this guy didn't do any research
Speaker 1: and just went off the seat of his pants from anger.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of people think, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't get anybody to to pay attention to me
Speaker 1: and my creative genius. And then when they see some
Speaker 1: thing like Moana or Moana to do well, it just
Speaker 1: makes them crazy inside, I think, and they're going to
Speaker 1: go they just they're gonna go after them. And you
Speaker 1: know what, and also this this person will never ever
Speaker 1: work in Hollywood, yeah, after after doing this, just never,
Speaker 1: I mean, because this is not what it's just you know, it.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just you know, you you take your shot,
Speaker 4: do some research on what happens and and who you know,
Speaker 4: it's just Disney executive going to get this from some
Speaker 4: weird person to go, oh, this is great.
Speaker 1: I'm going to pass it along to who they'd have
Speaker 1: to find a writer who wanted to base material for
Speaker 1: a movie on stolen stuff or stuff that a that
Speaker 1: a Disney executive gave them, which you know doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense either. Writers, you know, come up with their
Speaker 1: own original stuff and they and they have you know,
Speaker 1: Bay and they and they get it to Disney based
Speaker 1: on prior success.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, that it's really when you're talking about
Speaker 2: entire communities of people. I think that's like the main
Speaker 2: focus that he has a teenage hero from Polynesia. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of teenage heroes from Polynesia that you could
Speaker 2: base stories off of there. It's like there's that you
Speaker 2: can't I don't know any you can create stories off
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, there's you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like there can't just be one Polynesian hero story about
Speaker 1: a kid. And plus I don't see I saw Morana.
Speaker 1: This guy is a time traveler, a surfer time travel
Speaker 1: and he goes back in time and hangs out an
Speaker 1: ancient moa. I mean that doesn't. That doesn't remind me
Speaker 1: of Moana.
Speaker 2: No, not just on the face of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's like and so you you can't get
Speaker 1: a lawyer to take a case like this on a contingency.
Speaker 1: I don't believe unless he's a moron or she's a
Speaker 1: moron or more off, whatever, take your pick. The person
Speaker 1: would would The plaintiff has to pay PA for this,
Speaker 1: this litigation, and this is hundreds and hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars. You rack up fifty thousand dollars in a
Speaker 1: month easy, something like this. You got three lawyers working
Speaker 1: on it, you know, trying to get this case put together.
Speaker 1: The depositions, discoveries, interrogatories. This is just insane. So if
Speaker 1: you have a movie you think Disney stole it, here's
Speaker 1: my advice, write another movie and and and then you
Speaker 1: can tell people this movie that I wrote over here
Speaker 1: is so good as a writing sample, so good. Disney
Speaker 1: made a movie very much like this right afterwards. And
Speaker 1: then that person will say, oh, did you see them?
Speaker 1: No I didn't, because you know, I'm a writer. I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, looking to just run around and sue people.
Speaker 1: Look at my other script. Here's my other script. It's
Speaker 1: about a you know, a boy that finds a bag
Speaker 1: of money, you know, whatever it is. But don't cry
Speaker 1: over your over your one script that someone stole, because
Speaker 1: they probably didn't steal it and they and you have
Speaker 1: a life ahead of you. Now. This guy's life is
Speaker 1: pretty much ruined financially and professionally, but we don't get
Speaker 1: him on the show. Sam.
Speaker 2: Let's let's see if you can find them
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