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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. If you listen to the DOJ and the

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Trump administration, they'll tell you that they're the most transparent

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administration and DOJ in the history of the country, and

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that as far as Jeffrey Epstein goes, there's nothing left

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to see here and it's time to just move on.

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And in fact, the whole entire thing is nothing but

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a hoax. But at the same time, the DOJ and

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the administration is not only with holding files that are

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related to President Trump, they're deleting files that have already

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been released that are related to President Trump. And if

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you're wondering why people are calling it a cover up,

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this is why the DOJ and the administration. They're not

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doing themselves any favors. Every time you turn around, it

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looks like they're advancing their cover up a little bit

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further and laughing at us the whole entire time. So

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in this episode, we're going to dive into an article

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from NPR discussing how these files have been withheld and

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some of them removed. Headline Justice Department withheld and removed

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some Epstein files related to Trump. This article was authored

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by Stephen Fowler. The Justice Department has withheld some Epstein

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files related to allegations that President Trump sexually abused a minor,

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an NPR investigation finds. It also removed some documents from

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the public database where accusations against Jeffrey Epstein also mentioned Trump. Now, look,

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I've said from the jump that we haven't seen any

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real evidence here anything that would hold up in court

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that point us to Bill Clinton or Donald Trump actually

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engaging in abuse. Now, there have been some allegations against

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Trump that have been made, and frankly, I don't trust

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the FBI when they say they investigated, because how can

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you at this point. But that said, it's about what

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we can prove in court, and certainly there's nothing here

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that we've seen so far that we could use in

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court and say, hey, look so and so was doing

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this at this time, at this place, to this person.

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But there's certainly a bunch of allegations, and there is

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no way that those allegations should be hidden, especially if

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it's a court case, a court document, something that was

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you know, set under oath, or if it was a

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statement given to the police or the FBI. Certainly something

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that should be looked at. Now, does that mean I

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believe everything that comes in most certainly not. I've told

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you from the beginning, not the fall for side quests,

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but the DOJ and Donald Trump himself, they're not doing

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themselves any favors when they hide documents, when they pull

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things down, all you do is further the suspicion, right,

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because the biggest problem for Trump right now is that

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this is an act of cover up. And how many

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times have we seen people go down for the cover

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up instead of the crime. So that's certainly something that

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Donald Trump needs to keep in mind and everybody in

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the administration honestly, because if you think that this is

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going away and that questions aren't going to be asked

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of people that we're in the middle of this, during

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this cover up, you're crazy. This is only just beginning.

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And I know that Donald Trump and the administration and

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all the stands want it to be over and want

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us to move on, but we're not going to. Some

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files have not been made public despite a law mandating

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their release. These include what appears to be more than

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fifty pages of FBI interviews and notes from conversations with

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a woman who accused Trump a sexual abuse decades ago

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when she was a minor. Well, according to the law,

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that should be released. Her name should be redacted, and

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it should be released. But the DOJ thinks they can

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do whatever they want. Oh well, just you know, go

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in here and we'll get rid of Trump's name every

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single place we possibly can. Did they think they were

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going to get away with that? No, they knew they wouldn't.

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They didn't care. That's what it comes down to. And

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I think that's what makes me so mad. These mforts

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are literally looking us in the face and given us

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the double middle finger. MPR reviewed multiple sets of unique

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serial numbers appearing before and after the pages in question

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stamped onto the documents in the Epstein database, FBI case records, emails,

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and discovery document logs in the latest tranch of documents

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published at the end of January. MPR's investigation found dozens

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of pages that appear to be cataloged by the Justice

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Department but not shared publicly. And they'll have some explanation, right, Oh,

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it's national security. Oh we couldn't tell you about this

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or that. But that's not what the law says. And

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at some point the people who decided to do this

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are going to be held accountable. The Justice Department declined

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to answer NPR's questions on the record about these specific files,

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what's in them and why they're not published? Oh, why

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would they Why would they give you any kind of

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inside book, especially in the middle of a cover up.

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The last thing they want to do is talk about it.

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Other file scrub from public view pertaining to a separate

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woman who was a key witness for the prosecution in

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the criminal trial of Epstein's co conspirator, Glenn Maxwell, who

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is serving a twenty year prison sentence for sex trafficking.

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Maxwell is seeking clemency from Trump. What I thought would

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never happen probably will now, with the way Trump is

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going and how there is some support for his nonsense

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amongst his most ardent supporters, I wouldn't be shocked to

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see Trump release Glenn Maxwell, followed directly by a PR

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campaign by the very same people who were given those

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white binders. That's the kind of life we're living, that's

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the kind of reality that we're living in. And these

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people are shameless. How many of those people that got

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those binders give a goddamn about any of this? How

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many of them have ever talked to any of the survivors,

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have read court documents, have done anything that would warrant

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them being given those binders in the first place. And

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I told you at the time it was a sy op.

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I knew it was the beginning of the end. And

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those will be the people that come out the loudest,

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the strongest, and with the most passion in their voices

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to defend Donald Trump. If he pardons Glenn Maxwell, and

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I wouldn't even be shocked to see Glen Maxwell hit

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the circuit and get on the podcast Benny Johnson's new

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co host Glenn Maxwell. It would be fitting right, Or

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maybe Glean Maxwell can head out with Nick Shirley on

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his next investigation. And I'm only half kidding when I

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say that some of those documents were briefly taken down

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and put back online last week, while others remain hidden.

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According dan PR's comparison of initial data set from January

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thirtieth with document metadata of those files currently on the

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Justice Department's website does not name victims of sexual abuse.

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Well that's a good idea. Maybe the DOJ should take

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some notes from MPR. When asked for comment about the

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missing pages and the accusations against the president. A White

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House spokeswoman told MPR that Trump has done more for

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Epstein victims than anyone before him. Yo, this is just

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too much. What exactly has Donald Trump done? I mean,

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he sent out Luna to drop a hand grenade in

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the middle of everything and call all the survivors traffickers.

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And she still hasn't clarified her statement yet. She's out

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here talking all kinds of crazy about this. That the

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other thing, she has no idea what she's talking about.

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Then again, we shouldn't expect anything from somebody who thinks

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that there is quote unquote interdimensional beings that are aliens,

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literally what she believes. But sure she's gonna get us

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to the Promised Land when it comes to Epstein and

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this investigation. It's truly bizarre. This lady has no idea

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what she's even talking about, and she's out here framing

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everybody as a human trafficker. And she made those comments

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not on the congressional floor, So she opens herself up

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to a lawsuit if these survivors want a sewer, and

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they'll tell you what. If I was a survivor, I'd

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think about it. Because her commentary has led to a

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bunch of morons running with it and saying a bunch

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of reckless bullshit, just as President Trump has said he's

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been totally exonerated on anything relating to Epstein, White House

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spokeswoman Abigail Jackson told NPR in a statement, you know,

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if you believe that you're dumb as the day is long,

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all Trump has done is implicate himself in the cover up.

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Is Abigail Jackson? Okay? Did she fall and hit her

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head before giving this interview? Was she hanging out in

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the sauna with Hillbilly Vanilli? I mean Kid Rock and RFK,

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rocking some jeans and taking a dip. Because I don't

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know where you come up this kind of ludicrous statement

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unless you're suffering from CTE. And by releasing thousands of

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pages of documents, cooperating with the House Oversight Committee subpoena request,

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signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and calling for more

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investigations into Epstein's Democrat friends, President Trump has done more

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for Epstein's victims than anyone before him. Meanwhile, Democrats like

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Aqim Jeffries and Stacey Plaskett have yet to explain why

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they were soliciting money and meetings from Epstein after he

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was a convicted ZEX defender. Well, she's not wrong about that.

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Stacy Plaskett needs to answer some questions. I mean, there's

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no doubt that Stacy Plaskett and Jeffrey Epstein were very

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close and that Jeffrey Epstein was giving her a ton

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of money. And that's just reality, folks. So it has

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to be uniform, right, if we're going to go after

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one person, everybody, every single person that was involved, every

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person that enabled this, every co conspirator, and everybody covering

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it up, all those people have to be and I

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assure you nobody has been exonerated. The White House has

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previously appointed to a statement from the Justice Department that

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says Epstein files contain untrue and sensationalist claims about the President. Well, yeah,

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I'm sure there are some, no doubt about it. Donald

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Trump isn't you know, Satan himself, And this isn't all

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about Donald Trump. But the cover up portion is he's

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the one behind the sticks, right, He's in control of

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this whole cover up. And in my opinion, that's gonna

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be Donald Trump's undoing when all is said and done,

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and there's a real investigation into this, there is no

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doubt that it's gonna find that this has been covered up.

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But make no mistake, this isn't just Trump's cover up.

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This goes all the way back to Clinton. Clinton knew

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what Jeffrey Epstein was. I don't care what he says now,

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we can't prove that, but he knew. Maria Farmer told

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everybody in ninety six. So don't tell me they didn't know.

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They knew, they didn't care. That's what it comes down to,

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and that's my biggest problem. The federal government has never

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done the right thing here. They've never stepped up, they've

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never investigated, and they've never held anyone accountable. So nobody,

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including President Trump, is exonerated. In a letter to members

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of Congress on February fourteenth, first reported by Politico, Attorney

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General Pambondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche insists that

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no records were withheld or redacted on the basis of embarrassment,

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reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official,

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public figure, or foreign dignitary, which is a lie. Like

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they just continue to lie to us at this huge clip,

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and there's no repercussions. Nobody can do anything, nobody can

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stop them, and they just have unchecked power, I guess,

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And I know people don't want to hear that shit,

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but it's true. Not only are they breaking the law,

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they're laughing at us. In the last two weeks, as

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lawmakers have begun to view unredacted copies of the Epstein files,

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members of both parties have criticized the way the Trump

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administration has handled the release of the files. They have

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also continued to accuse the Justice Department of violating the

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law and operating without transparency in redacting information. And I

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think all of that's true. I think all of that's true.

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And the fact that they keep hiding it and they

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keep obfuscating the actual truth just adds more credence to

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the fact that, in my opinion, this is nothing but

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a giant cover up. According to the newly released files,

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the FBI internally circulated Epstein related allegations I mentioned Trump

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in late July and early August of twenty twenty five.

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The list, collected from the FBI's National Threat Operation Center

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included numerous salacious allegations. Agents mark most of the accusations

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as unverifiable. Or not credible. And look, I'm sure the

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vast majority were not verifiable or credible. I'm sure of it.

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But why are you redacting the information? Why aren't you

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releasing it to the American public. That's the question. That's

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what the law called for, not for you to hide shit,

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not for you to obfuscate, and not for you to

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tell us what we can and can't see. But one

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lead was sent to the FBI's Washington office with the

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purpose of setting up an interview with the accuser. The

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lead was included in an internal PowerPoint slide deck detailing

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prominent names in the Epstein and Maxwell investigation last fall.

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The woman who directly named Trump in her abuse allegation

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claimed that around nineteen eighty three, when she was around thirteen,

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Epstein introduced her to Trump, who subsequently forced her head

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down to his exposed penis, which she subsequently bit. In

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a response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked

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her out. Now, look, I have no idea if any

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of that's true, no clue. But what I will tell

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you is this, if it's part of the files, we

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should have seen it. There's no excuse for keeping that out.

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by the Justice Department in recent months. This specific allegation

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against Trump only appears in copies of the FBI list

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of claims and the DOJ slide show, But a review

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of FBI case file logs and discovery documents turned over

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to Maxwell and her attorneys in the criminal case against

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her zero point to one place the claim could have

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come from and how serious investigators took it. The FBI

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interviewed this Trump and Epstein accuser four times. That is,

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according to an FBI serial report and a list of

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non testifying witness material in the Maxwell case that were

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also released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Only the

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first interview, conducted July twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, is in

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the public database, and that interview doesn't name Trump. Of

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fifteen documents listed in a log of the Maxwell discovery

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material for the first accuser, only seven or in the

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Epstein Files database. Those missing also include notes at a

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company three of the interviews. The discrepancy in the file

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for the Trump accuser was first reported by independent journalist

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Roger Sallenberger. According Dan Prre's review of three different sets

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of serial numbers stamped onto the files, there appear to

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be fifty three pages of interview documents and notes missing

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from the public Epstein database. Oh I wonder why. I

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bet you if those documents named Bill Clinton, Oh, we'd

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have them right. But since they named Donald Trump, forget it.

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You can't even see it. In the first interview document,

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the woman discussed ways Epstein abused her as a girl,

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and in identifying him to investigators, showed a crop photo

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of the disgraced financier. Her attorney said it was cropped

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because she was concerned about implicating additional individuals, and specifically

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any that were well known, due to fear of retaliation. Well, yeah,

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that's been something that's been on the table. How many

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of these women were retaliated against a whole lot? How

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many of their lives ruined a whole lot? The FBI

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agents noted it was a widely distributed photograph of Epstein

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with Trump. A woman whose biographical details and descriptions of

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Epstein's abuse found in the FBI interview also line up

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with details from a victim lawsuit. In the December twenty

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nineteen filing Jane do four does not mention Trump, and

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the woman voluntarily dismissed her claims against Epstein's estate. In

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December of twenty twenty one, attorneys for this accuser declined

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to comment. So, look, is it verifiable? No? Is it

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something that could have happened? Maybe, But I'd say that

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this is one of those side quests. There's not enough here,

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certainly not enough for us to dig our teeth into,

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at least from the perspective of what the law allows.

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But as far as the cover up, I think it

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proves it. At the very least, it gives a lot

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more ammunition. You have all these documents that are not

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good for Trump, and they just magically disappear. They just

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end up not in the file case. I mean, come on,

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it's obvious that this is a cover up. Now, with

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that said, there's a lot of slacious information in here

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that is not verifiable and probably just not true. But

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that's all part of the sy op. And I told

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you that from the beginning you have to be able

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to discern what's real and what might be fantasy. And

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my suggestion is lock into the stuff that we can prove,

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or the stuff where there's evidence that leads to a

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certain destination, and then from there the walls will fall

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in because people will start talking, people will start rolling,

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and before you know it, you're getting to the meet

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in the potatoes. But there's no doubt that a lot

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of this is added as side quest missions to confuse

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people and make people think that everything's just a bunch

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of bs, and it's been very effective. There's a lot

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of people that point to these kinds of allegations in

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the Drop as evidence that everything inside this drop is bunk,

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which is wild because as outlandish as this allegation might sound,

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we don't know how it ended up. And that's because, well,

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there's a cover up. So if people have questions and

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people don't believe the official narrative, then that's cool too.

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I get it. And that's also on the DOJ. They

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created that nonsense when they tried to confuse people by

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dumping all this stuff together and not giving any kind

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of context about what's what. And they know that it

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causes confusion, and that was the whole point, right to

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confuse everybody and make it seem like this is just

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absolutely asinine, that this is all just made up, and

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like Trump said, it's a gigantic hoax. But I think

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they've done the opposite, and I think the vast majority

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of Americans have reached their tipping point. It's one thing

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to lie to us about, you know, politics, It's another

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thing to steal from us on a regular basis, like

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every politician does. But this is a step too far.

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Hurting children, hurting women, trafficking people, god knows what else,

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and then covering it up. That's a step too far,

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and I don't think the people are going to accept it.

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Elsewhere in the release files, someone in the FBI wrote

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on July twenty second, twenty twenty five, before the list

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and slide presentation were compiled, that Trump's name was in

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the larger case files and that one identified victim claimed

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abuse by Trump but ultimately refused to cooperate. Well, I

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wonder why is it that she wasn't telling the truth

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or or was she intimidated. Well, that's out of the

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realm of possibility dealing with these people. The other woman

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who's mentioned a Trump made the DOJ's presentation appears in

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maxwell discovery for files released last month in what's known

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as Testifying Witness thirty five hundred material list. The first

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interview of six with the FBI conducted between September twenty

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nineteen and September twenty twenty one, the second woman detailed

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how Epstein and Maxwell's abuse began while she was around

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thirteen years old attending the Interlocan Center for the Arts,

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and described how at one point Epstein took her to

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Trump's mar Alago club to meet him. Epstein told Trump,

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this is a good one, huh, the interviewer report reads.

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In a twenty twenty lawsuit against Epstein's estate in Maxwell,

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the second woman added that both men chuckled and she

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felt uncomfortable, but at the time was too young to

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understand why. So her testimony was used to put Maxwell

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in prison. My guess is she's a reliable witness. Do

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with that as you will. The interview was removed from

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the DOJ's public files sometime after initial publication on January three, thirtieth,

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and was republished February nineteenth, according to document metadata. The

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Justice Department told MPR the only reason any fil that

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has been removed is because it has been flagged by

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a victim or their council for additional review. Multiple FBI

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interviews with other people refer to the second women's meeting

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with Trump while she was a miner and being abused

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by Epstein. One interview with the fleeting mention of Trump

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was removed from the public database and subsequently restored last week,

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while another interview with the woman's mother is still offline.

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In that conversation, the mother recalled hearing that a Prince

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and Donald Trump visited at Epstein's house, which made her

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think that if they are there, then how could Epstein

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be a criminal? According to MPR's copy of the file

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that was first published, that was part of it. Epstein

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wanted to build that respectability, build that nexus around them,

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so nobody suspected anything. Right, send your kids to Epstein,

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no big deal, and unfortunately a lot of people fell

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for it. The possible omission of files that mentioned these

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women particular allegations against the president come as the Justice

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Department has warned about other documents it is published in

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full that include what it calls untrue and sensationalist claims

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about Trump. So there were only sensationalist claims about Donald Trump,

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nobody else, okay, good to know. At the same time,

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the Justice Department has removed and re uploaded thousands of

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pages in recent weeks to fix in properly redacted victim names.

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That includes documents related to the allegation from these two women,

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who separately say they were around thirteen years old when

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Epstein first abused them. Robert Lassman, who represents the woman

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who testified against Maxwell, sharply criticized the Justice Department's handling

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of the Epstein files. This whole thing is ridiculous, he

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told MPR. The DOJ was ordered to release information to

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the public to be tras transparent about Epstein and Maxwell's

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criminal enterprise network. Instead, they released the names of courageous

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victims who fought hard for decades to remain anonymous and

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out of the limelight. Whether the disclosures were inadvertent or not.

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They had one job to do here and they didn't

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do it. I think that really sums it up. They

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had one job to do and they didn't do it.

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And now they want to cry that this is just

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a big nothing burger, that nobody has anything to see here,

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that we should just move on. No way, not going

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to happen. A DOJ spokesperson told NPR that the department

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is working around the clock to address concerns from victims

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and handle additional redactions of personally identifiable information that has

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been flagged in view of the congressional deadline, all reasonable

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efforts have been made to review and redact personal information

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pertaining to victims other private individuals, and protect sensitive material

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from disclosure. The statement read that said, because of the

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volume of information involved, this website may nevertheless contain information

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that inadvertently includes non public, personally identifiable information or other

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sensitive content, to include matters of a sexual nature. Look,

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I don't believe anything the DOJ is telling us about

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this situation, and I fully believe that we're watching maybe

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one of the biggest cover ups in American history. And

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the wildest part is we're watching it in real time.

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And not only that, but they're doing it in such

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a brazen manner that it certainly doesn't look like they're

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going to deviate from this course anytime soon. In fact,

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it looks like they're gonna double down. So like usual,

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we'll keep an eye on this one as well as

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that swim through all the muck continues. All of the

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