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Speaker 1: Is there illuminatio.

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Speaker 2: A new world order?

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Speaker 1: While excuse me, has any seen a quite mad? That

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was a joke about the world being flat?

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Speaker 3: Right? Was it?

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Speaker 4: When we are successful? We will we had a real

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chance at this new world order.

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Speaker 1: They felt outrank care by by it could totally one

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hundred meter because you.

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Speaker 3: Know the government's life about everything technical.

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Speaker 5: Name hey, and welcome fellow truth.

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Speaker 3: There's in conspiracy Junkies to another episode of White Rabbit.

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I am your host, Chattelist Jones. And as it gets

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cold and windy outside, so does the political climate, and

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the conspiracies just keep coming true. Our batting average is

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at least eight hundred and seventy thousand right now in

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the conspiracy world, we are just knocking them out of

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the park. And today we're going to jump into something

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a little bit crazy. I like to dive into the

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past as well, because that's where all the conspiracies come from.

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Speaker 2: And today we have somebody that just wrote a brand.

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Speaker 3: New book and I fucking wrote it down forgot the

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name Epic of Esau, and Doc Brown is here to

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talk about the crazy shit.

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Speaker 2: That goes along and what made him want to.

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Speaker 3: Write this book. So let's get into this doc. Welcome

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to the fucking show.

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Speaker 4: Brother, hey man, thank you for having me. I love

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you work. I followed you stuff on Instagram and stuff

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for a while. Your graphics and stuff. You could tell

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that you're kind of like me. You're obsessed with your craft.

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It shows and your work, man.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yes, it's one of those things where like,

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so I have ADHD and I like gravitate towards things,

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and I master it really fucking quick and then I

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move on to the next. And so with podcasting, it's

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everything that I've ever been passionate about, from graphic design,

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video editing, audio production. So it's like kind of the

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coolest fucking thing for me because it's like, shit, does

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everything that I've already mastered.

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Speaker 2: So I love it same.

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Speaker 4: I've become obsessive, compulsive over stuff. I've not mastered it yet,

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but it's, uh, you know, all the creative juices that

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you get from that, just from the thumbnails to the

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audio to the graphics and stuff. So I'm kind of

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self teaching myself how to do all this stuff. But yeah,

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it's stuff that I really enjoy all wrapped up and won.

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It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's it's always you're always going

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to be learning. I wouldn't say that I've mastered anything

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because the tools are always changing and creativity is always

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changing from within a person, So there's never mastering a

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creative art form. But I will say that, like when

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I went to school for graphic design, and when I

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was sitting there, I was thinking, like, why am I

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fucking sitting here?

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Speaker 2: I know more.

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Speaker 3: About these things than the people trying to teach me.

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This is retarded, but creativity is something that's just within somebody,

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and there's certain sparks that will, uh the catalyst will

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bring it out of somebody, and it's not something that

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you can teach. You know. You can teach somebody how

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to use a paintbrush, how to hold it, and how

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to put it to the canvas, but you can't teach

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them how to paint a picasso.

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Speaker 4: M yep. Agree. Do you either have it or you don't?

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Speaker 3: Yep. So you were telling me a little bit about

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this book before we jumped on here, and I do

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want to get into it. But before we jump into

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the book, man, I like to ask people, you know, like,

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throughout our lives, we have multiple little tiny red poll moments,

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but there's usually just that one old shit everything is

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not what I thought it was moment. Do you remember

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what that moment was in your life?

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Speaker 5: Brother?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was twenty twelve. You know, I grew up

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I'm from the Bible Belt if you can't tell by

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my dialect here, you know, from East Tennessee. But grew

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up in church my whole life, and of course had

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my you know, rebellious streak and all that stuff, just

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like everybody else. But twenty twelve, I was just mindlessly

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scrolling on YouTube and social medias and stumbled across this

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guy called Tray Smith from God in a Nutshell and

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he was talking about angels coming down and breeding with

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the daughters of men and creating Nephelim giants and angels

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and aliens and just all this kind of you know,

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fantastical stuff that in these circles we run in that

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we find ourselves fascinated with and talking about so often.

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I know the Bible, well, I've grew up in church

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my whole life. This stuff ain't in there, bro. So

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I started pulling out my Bible and reading through some

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of this stuff. And I was like, oh man, it's here.

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It's been here the whole time. And then he introduced

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me to Michael Heiser, uh, doctor Aaron Judkins and doctor

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Judd Burton and all these guys in this circle that

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holds this supernatural worldview. And it was like I was

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reading the Bible with a new set of eyes, and

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like reading it for the first time. It was something

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that I thought I was so familiar with and knew

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so well, but I did not know it at all.

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and I always kind of gravitated toward conspiracy theories and

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stuff like that. So with this new set of glasses

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that I had, I was I just found myself connecting

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all kinds of dots with ancient history and conspiracy and

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cryptids and Bigfoot and just all this stuff. And it

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just lit a fireman that to this day I've not

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been able to quench.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting? You know?

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Speaker 3: And Sam Tripley talks about this often, that the Bible

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is so much more interesting than what they teach us

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when we go to church in these organized religious buildings,

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And you know, I kind of have my theory on

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why they don't teach us the cool shit in the Bible,

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and why they've taken out the Book of Enoch and

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the cooler writings, you know, like in the Book of

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Enoch talks about a lot of what you're talking about,

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with the Nephilom and the Beasts of the Fields and

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all just the coolest fucking stories, and they've all been

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taken out, and the ones that haven't been taken out,

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it just kind of brushes over, you know, because it does.

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Speaker 2: It's not taken out completely of the Bible.

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Speaker 3: It does talk about how the angels came down and

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took women for their own and created the Nephilim. But

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why do you think that the majority of it is

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taken out? My theory is if people don't know their

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history and where they're coming from, then they can't prevent

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what is supposed to come.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and even just like the Genesis six narrative, yeah

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it's there, but it's like the theology and the teachings

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they have just really whitewashed it. I knew of Genesis six,

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but not in that context and with that viewpoint. I

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was always taught that the sons of God were the

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righteous line of Seth and the Daughters of Men was

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the pretty but wicked, spirited line of Cain. That those

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two branches of the family tree got together, and that

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they bred spiritually wicked people. And these were the rulers

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and kings and authorities on earth that were wicked. They

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were spiritually descended from this union of the sons of

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God with the daughters of Men. And once I got

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to searching this stuff out and seeing it for what

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it was and what they actually believed, you know, it

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was angelic beanks coming down, and then it made so

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much more sense to me. And one of my friends

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made a comment. When we first started podcasting. It was

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the first show that I'd ever done. It was the

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Big Bible podcast. And my buddy Chad, he started off

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with us for a few months and ended up starting

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a business and had to step away. But he said,

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I'll never forget it. He said, Yeah, that sethought view,

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you know, he said, it sounds good. But then when

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you get to thinking about it, he said, kissing cousins

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don't make thirty footers, bro.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of stuck.

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Speaker 2: And so why why do you think that they hide

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this from us?

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Speaker 3: Though? Why do you think that they missed intentionally, and

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it is intention Is it the Vatican that took these

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things out, because everybody says, well, the Vatican took these

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things out, and I could see that, you know, and

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we can go back to as far as the Knights

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Temple are trying to separate and hide certain things once

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they started their banking organization. Pretty much, you think that's

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when it was decided to start hiding what our past

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really is.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that it started as just kind of

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like a not being forward thinking of us reading these

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texts thousands of years later, because Genesis six, you know,

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you just get that little blurb and us reading it today,

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we're like, whoa, that's a pretty big deal. I want

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some more context on that. But back then when they

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were writing it, they were just like, we're not going

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to beat a dead horse. Everybody knows about the angelic

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beings coming down and breeding with the daughters of men

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because we have this strong oral tradition everybody knows. We

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don't have to go into detail about that. And we

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also have the Book of Enoch that goes into great

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detail of this event. So it was like the writers

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of the time was like everybody reading this that what

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I'm writing here is going to know about Genesis six.

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So I don't have to cover that ground. That book's

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already been written, that story's already been told. I don't

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have to theoretically be a dead horse.

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Speaker 3: Right, And we see how that happens, and you know,

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I can, I can kind of put this in an

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analogy because we deal with this shit at work, and

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it's certain people know certain things that are not in

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the SOPs. And if you don't know these things, then

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what you're trying to accomplish is not going to fucking work.

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But these people have this knowledge from being there so long,

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they don't think that they have to write it because

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it's just instilled in everybody. But yet then when you

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get somebody new that comes in and you just hand

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them the book, they're not going to know what the

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fuck to do.

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Speaker 2: And so it gets lost.

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Speaker 3: It gets lost just by thinking that that's already instilled

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Speaker 4: Yep. And that's the thing with even Esau. You get

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a little blurb about him and then they're like, move on.

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But there's so much to the story that's in other

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books and other legends and lore, and the people just

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writing at the time, just are not thinking forward enough

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about the new people coming in and reading this kind

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of being in the dark. But when you deal with

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you know, the the Council of Nicia, you know, you know,

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they got together and got all these different scrolls and

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books informed him together to make what we call, you know,

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the sixty six book Cannon. I think it was just

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one of those things. It was like, we just our

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religion is now being established. We're trying to bring all

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the people of Rome under the umbrella of Christianity. But

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all these other religions, they all have books, but we

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don't have a book. We don't have a line in

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the sand and showing you the boundaries what we believe,

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what we don't believe in like a standard. So they

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were just worried about the organization of an organized religion.

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So they were like, okay, long as we have the Torah,

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which is the history, it shows our creation, our rebellion,

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and fall, and then when you get to the New

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Testament that is the redemption, you know, and the coming

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of Christ and our salvation. Long as we have the

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highlights and main points, that's kind of what we're concerned about.

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But when you dig in and you see this seed

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war of Genesis three fifteen, and a lot of people

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in conspiracy circles talk about the Blue Bloods and the

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Dragon Court, and these are the rulers and principalities ruling

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the earth today. That's part of their lineage. So of

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course they want to try to keep that stuff suppressed

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and hidden. So it kind of morphed. It started off

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as a like an accident, like a we just going

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to touch that everybody knows. But then as it started

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curving and knowledge started increasing, it was like, Okay, we're

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going to keep this kind of shrouded in mystery as

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long as we can and not expose ourselves and our agenda.

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Speaker 3: Right, And then they took it so far as too.

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and stuff like that, and you'll see giants all over

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the place, and you can go on my Instagram if

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you want, and I have videos of this shit for sure.

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But the Smithsonian started taking these these things and hiding

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them away and locking them away. And you know, in

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my theory is that's where we get these so called

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dinosaurs from. But they hide this stuff from us. But

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yet they are the ones that are in charge I

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feel today and ruling things.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Gonna throw a joke out there. Man, have you seen

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fucking Baron Trump. Yeah, that kid is a fucking Nephelo man,

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he's like eight foot nine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big key had And then you got

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all those The Adventures of Baron Trump where you know

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it was written back in what like the thirties or something. Yeah,

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he's a type. Yeah, he's a time traveler and goes

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back in time and his dad becomes the president and

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he's the last president and assassination an attempt blows up

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Congress And it's pretty wild how that stuff's kind of

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playing out, especially when you look in and that in

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the book the uncle was named Don. He was a

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you know, a big, big brain guy from m I

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T or whatever. And then turns out, yeah, uh, they

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had a Don that was an uncle that m I T.

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Big smart guy. And he was the one called him

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by the FBI to examined the paperwork in documents of

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Nikola Tesla when he died.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and then yep, and he's the one that was

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there to confiscate all of that all of that stuff, right, Yeah,

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has the capabilities of time travel, so we'll see. You know,

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that's a fun one to jump into. I don't necessarily

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think that that's true. But there's a lot of similarity,

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not similarities. We don't believe in concert or uh yeah, yeah,

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I'm fucking it's too early for me.

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Speaker 2: We don't believe in.

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Speaker 3: I keep wanting to say consequences, coincidences, thank you, sir,

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and uh, there's just too many in that book to overlook,

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and you know, everywhere from it says in the book

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that he he lives in Trump Castle. Well he lived

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in the Trump Towers, you know, and there it's I

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believe I could be mistaken, but I believe even the

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address is like dead on.

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Speaker 2: And so I.

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Speaker 3: Remember Buck three years ago, probably when there was a

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website that came out and I was heavy into the

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Q stuff, and a buddy of mine back then he

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was like, bro, you got to check this fucking book out,

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and yeah, it's a It's definitely one of those head

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scratchers for sure. So so you get super interested in

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all of this stuff, as we all do. When I

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first heard about Nefflim as a child, I was like,

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I have to know more of this.

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Speaker 2: And my mom didn't know about the Book of Enoch,

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so it's like, wow, that's really all there is.

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Speaker 3: So and so you took it, you took it a

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step further and you started looking into it, and so

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I cut you off right around. You were talking about

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the blue Bloods basically still being in charge today or

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that's a theory that's going.

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Speaker 2: Around mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is me writing this book. I

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was I was never a Bigfoot enthusiast, but I mean

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I knew, you know, the thirty thousand foot view that

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he was this Harry Ape man of the woods that

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a lot of people and throughout different cultures and throughout time,

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have bumped into and reported, and you get over into

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Britain and you're up and all these other places and

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that they call it the wild Man or the wood wofs.

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And here in America you had those loggers that found

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the big tracks and got a print of it out

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in California, and the name Bigfoot was born, and the

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Patterson Gibblin films and all that kind of stuff. You know,

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I kind of just knew the general knowledge, but as

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far as like someone that read all the literature, went

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to the Bigfoot conferences and watched all the the YouTube

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videos and podcasts of encounters and all that stuff that

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was not me, but I had friends that were, and

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it actually all this, this whole journey started with like

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a catty little joke out of nowhere. Just we were

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talking about, you know, Bigfoot with Trey Smith from God

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in the Nutshell. We had him on the show and

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he said, yeah, you guys are from East Tennessee, that's

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Bigfoot country. Maybe I should come down there and we

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go bigfoot hunting and record it. One day, I was like, yeah, man,

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come on down, and just like out of nowhere, Genesis

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twenty five twenty five popped into my head and I

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was like, dude, Esau sounds just like a sasquatch, you know.

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one came out red, covered in hair from head to toe,

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like a hairy cloak. And so I said the tray,

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I was like, well, what about Esau? You think Esau

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could have been the first bigfoot seed or the first

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bigfoot documented that. He kind of laughed and he's like,

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I you might be onto something. He was definitely a

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hairy dude. And it kind of just branched off from

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there and where I have a podcast, I started a

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second one called The Prometheus Lens, and that's the same thing,

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but I just I dive into ancient lost civilizations and

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history and the Bible and all that kind of stuff,

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just like with a with a Christian supernatural Christian worldview.

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And I had Gary Wayne on to talk about the

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epic of Gilgamesh like the next week, and so I

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was reading through that study and that, and then I

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bump into this guy called inky Do once again another

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with our modern vernacular bigfoot. He's covered hair from head

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to toe, bumps into Gilgamesh. They had this epic battle,

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and I'm like, dude, this sounds a lot like this

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guy Esau, And just the little breadcrumb trails just kept

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leading me. And then I was studying for another show

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and I was actually reading into the Book of Jasher,

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and this is another one of those extra biblical books,

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and in there it says that Esau was out into

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the field and that Nimrod was searching for him, and

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it said that Nimrod had built up resentment and jealousy

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and hatred for Esau all of his days, and both

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of their you know, their claims to fame was that

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they were the mighty hunters, right, and so it was

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like they were trying to show who the real mighty

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man was, and Nimrod wanted to take him out. So

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and the way it words it is like he's kind

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of like Gaston, you know, and the Beauty and the Beast. Yes,

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his hunters trying to take out this epic bigfoot creature.

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Speaker 2: And they threw that in there on purpose.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they might have had. And then it

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says that Esau sees them and it's him and two

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other gibble reem you know, and that means mighty, and

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that's the same word in the Hebrew texts used to

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describe the Nephelum giants, And so it says that he

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hides himself and they're looking for him, trying to hunt him,

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and it says that Esau springs out and cuts off

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Neimrod's head with a sword and then fights the other

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two gibble reim to the death and kills them all.

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But then it throws in it says that he takes

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the time to steal Nimrod's garments and then it says,

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these are the garments that made Nimrod a mighty man,

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and how and through these garments is how he ruled

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over all the nations. And then when I kept reading,

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it says that then that's when he comes home and

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you have the trading of the birthright that's in the

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Book of Genesis. And that was another just wow moment

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because when you read that, that was another one of

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those stories in the Bible that just never made any

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sense to me because a.

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Speaker 3: Moment as you're talking about this, because I haven't I

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haven't looked at it through this Prometheus lens. I haven't

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looked at it through I haven't connected these dots. Has

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anybody written anything or made videos about this yet? Or

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are you like the pioneer of putting two and two

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together here?

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Speaker 4: Yep, as far as I know, nobody has connected all

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these dots. I'm the first one to talk about it

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and put it together in a book and talking about

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it on podcasts and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm crazy, blown away right now, bro, So

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please do.

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Speaker 4: This whole story is just wild because like when you

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read in Genesis, you know, like we talked about, you

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just get little blurbs and you're missing so much context. Well,

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in Genesis, it just says that one day Esau comes

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in from the field, and it says he comes in

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from the field exhausted and that his brother Jacob is

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cooking red lentonel stew and he asks for some of

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the stew, and that Jacob just says, yeah, I'll give

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you some stew, but trade me your birthright. And Esau

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has said that he was just like, yeah, sure, what

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use is a birthright to me when I'm dead? Take it?

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And then Jacob shows like some urgency in Jacob's voice,

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He's like, no, do it now. Swear to me now

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that you will do this thing. And he says, yes,

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take it. You know, what use is this birthright to

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me when I'm dead? I'm starving, you know, do the deal.

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And to me, when I read that, I was like,

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that makes absolutely no sense, because with the modern context,

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it's like your father is Donald Trump and you are

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the eldest son. You are set to inherit the business,

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the millions of dollars and the keys to the kingdom,

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and you come home after trading stocks all day or

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dealing in real estate, working with your dad, and you

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see your brother eating a bag of Dorito's and you're like, hey, man,

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i'm starving, give me some of those Doritos. And he's like, yeah, sure,

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just sign over the company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes no sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would laugh him out of the room.

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Speaker 3: So why was he saying it's no use to me

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when I'm dead?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 3: Was he already in the sense like maybe he was

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just dead in his own mind? Like you know how

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people are just walk around and they're dead inside and

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they just feel dead to the world.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that that's maybe what he meant?

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Speaker 3: Or as also, shit gets translated through different languages as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and you know, like in church, they just

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made it out to like Esau was just this really

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carnal man that he just thought about the now and

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the pleasures of the flesh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that would make.

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Speaker 4: And he let his gut lead him that he was

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just hungry and he didn't care about the birth ride.

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He just wanted to eat now and that's all he

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was worried about.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'll give up millions of dollars because I don't

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give a fuck how hungry you are. You know that

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you're going to get some food eventually. In the morning

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or some shit, Right, It's not like he was on

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his deathbed and needed like a drop of.

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Speaker 2: Water and a breadcrumb in order to survive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the thing was as he was, And that's

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why it makes a lot more sense because when you

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read the Book of Jasher, he was out in the

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field and Nimrod and those other two giants were hunting

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him down and he fights these guys to the death

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and he comes home with these garments that he stole

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from Nimrod, and it says in the Book of Jasher

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that he hid the garments in his house and then

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went to Jacob's tent, and then that's where Genesis picks up. So, yeah,

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he was exhausted from the field because he just fought

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not one, not two, but three giants and killed the king,

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probably sustained some life threatening injuries, was on the run

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from killing the king, and was desperate. So basically he

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was you know, it's kind of like allegorically for the food.

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It was like, give me substance, yes, sew up my

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wounds and hide me. And he's like, yeah, I'll trade

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me the birthright because he knew how desperate he was,

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and he's like, what use is a birth right to me?

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When I'm dead? Take it. I'm bleeding out. You know,

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the King's men are looking for me.

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 3: I totally misunderstood that. Okay, now, thank you for explaining

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that to my brain. Yeah, I'm gonna die. So what

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the fuck is a birthrate?

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Speaker 5: Gotcha?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And so I was like, dude, I need to

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go through all these other extra texts and just see

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what else is missing, because that was missing from Genesis,

478
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and that tidy and perfectly and answered all the ambiguous

479
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,799
questions associated with that story. So I was like, so

480
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,839
what else am I going to find? I have to

481
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,920
you know, my obsessive compulsive I was like, I have

482
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to know the rest of the story. And so as

483
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I got to looking and I come to that part,

484
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I was like, what's so special about these garments?

485
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

486
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,039
Speaker 4: And when you keep yeah, when you keep reading, it

487
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,319
says that this was the birthright, This was part of

488
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,880
the birthright, and it was passed down the lineage to

489
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the eldest son. And it shows that that these were

490
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the garments given to Adam and Eve in the garden.

491
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If you remember at the fall when they discover their

492
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,279
naked they first it says they sew fig leagues together

493
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,519
to hide their nakedness or cover their nakedness. But it

494
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:35,079
says then God gives them a garment to cover their

495
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,480
nakedness before he, you know, kicks them out of the garden. Well,

496
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:42,039
according to the Book of Jeshure, that garment he stole

497
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:46,799
from Themrod were the supernatural garments from the garden of God. Wow,

498
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,279
it was, and it was a supernatural relic that was

499
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,759
passed down to the lineages. And it follows it, you know,

500
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:57,559
it goes to Adam, to to Seth, and on down

501
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:02,440
the line to Noah, to or to Methuselah, and then

502
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,960
to Noah. And then it says that Noah had the

503
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,920
garments on the boat and carried it through the flood.

504
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And it says that in Ham's going out, Ham stole

505
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,839
the garments and then give them to Cush. And it

506
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says that Cush hid them. And it was Nimrod was

507
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,960
the son of his old age and whom he loved exceedingly.

508
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,480
And it said at the coming of age, when Nimrod

509
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,279
turned twenty years old, Cush give Nimrod the garments. And

510
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:46,480
it says that once he put on these garments, he

511
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:53,119
became a gibble ring a mighty man. And that's another

512
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,440
tie in that answers for genesis, because a lot of

513
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,400
people speculate because it doesn't say Nimrod was born a

514
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,640
gibble ring. It says that he became a gibb or rim.

515
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And so this book of Jasher tells you that through

516
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,359
these supernatural garments, when he turned twenty years old and

517
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480
put them on, that is how he became a gibblerim.

518
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,240
And the Ancient Legends and Lore of the Jews. Lewis

519
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:23,599
Ginsburg has a nine volume set called the Legends of

520
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,599
the Jews, and he just went through and collected all

521
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,440
of their ancient myths and lore and legends and compiled

522
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,599
them all, and in there it talks about those garments,

523
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,279
and it says that these were supernaturally charged and that

524
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,839
whoever wore them, all the beasts and birds and animals

525
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:47,200
of the field would bow to the wire of these garments.

526
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And it bestowed power and authority to rule over all

527
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:55,839
of the nations. It was a symbol of kingship and priesthood.

528
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It showed that you were the head, and all the

529
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,720
minion of earth was given unto the wearer.

530
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Speaker 2: Was he wearing these during the battle.

531
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Speaker 4: And that's what when he killed Nimrod, that's that's the

532
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,759
garments that Esau stole.

533
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Right right.

534
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, was Nimrod wearing them or did he

535
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,960
kill him and then go grab them from like wherever

536
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,400
he was holding them type of a thing, like was

537
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920
he able to defeat this guy like while he was

538
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,359
wearing basically the powers of God.

539
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,039
Speaker 4: It just says that he removed the garments from him,

540
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So either he was sorry or maybe you know, had

541
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,839
them in a paluch or something with him, But it

542
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,839
just says that he removed them from Nimrod.

543
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,839
Speaker 3: Is there anything in there that would would make you

544
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,640
think that he himself was given some sort of a

545
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,160
power in order to defeat Nimrod?

546
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because think about it. I mean, if you know,

547
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,839
and a lot of people, but it's not familiar.

548
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: You know.

549
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,839
Speaker 4: It says that at his birth that he was born

550
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:07,599
covered in hair. He was born red, covered in hair

551
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,559
from head to toe, like a hairy cloak. And so

552
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,680
I mean he's like a sasquatch. So imagine an eight

553
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:20,759
foot you know, possibly tall, red haired sasquatch and the

554
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:24,519
strength that they're reported to have and he's willeding a

555
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,440
sword and has a bow and has intelligence of a hunter.

556
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,079
This dude would be, you know, a bad mamajama because

557
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:38,160
he killed you know, three giants. And when you go

558
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,680
on through there, it talks about his birth and his conception.

559
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,640
It says that when Rebecca was pregnant, that the Angel

560
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880
of the Lord come to her and said, two people's,

561
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,920
two nations are in your womb, and they struggle together

562
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,640
within the womb. It said one shall be stronger than

563
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:06,079
the other, but the younger shall rule over the older.

564
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,359
And so that was completely opposite. You know, the eldest

565
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,160
is the one that ruled. So Esau was the one

566
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,720
they were talking about that was going to be the

567
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:21,359
eldest and be stronger than his brother. And the birth,

568
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
I believe I talked about it in the book is

569
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,839
pointing back to Genesis three point fifteen in this seed

570
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,599
war that La Marzouli always talks about, because it says

571
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,319
that at their birth, not only did he come out

572
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,559
first and was red covered and Harem had the toe,

573
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:43,319
it says that his brother Jacob was clinging to the

574
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:50,319
hill of Esau. And when and when you go to

575
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,200
Genesis in the cursing of the garden. Before they're kicked out,

576
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:58,480
God tells the woman that he is going to put

577
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:02,960
enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed

578
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,759
of the serpent. So it says, plainly, the serpent's going

579
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,039
to have a seed, and they're going to be at

580
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,839
enmity with one another. They're going to ward against each other.

581
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,960
And then it says in that prophecy some people call

582
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,079
it the dragon slayer prophecy, but it says that the

583
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:27,279
woman's seed will bruise the head of the serpent seed,

584
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:35,839
but the serpent seed will bruise the heel. So and

585
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,160
I postulate in the book that Esau was of serpent seed.

586
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,599
And it's almost like Satan because he's a perverter. He

587
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,200
twists things upside down. So I postulate the question in

588
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,240
the book. I said, if Esau was of a serpent seed,

589
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Satan would be worried to death about this prophecy that

590
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,079
was given. So would he not reach into that womb

591
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,199
and turn them around to where his seed came out first,

592
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,880
and his seed's foot would be pushing literally bruising the

593
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,920
head of the chosen seed Jacob, and Jacob would be

594
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,360
holding the heel and bruising the heel, and that's why

595
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,360
the Angel of the Lord had to come to her

596
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:28,400
and warn her. You know that the younger shall rule

597
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,199
over the older.

598
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:31,639
Speaker 3: Bro.

599
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm blown away right now.

600
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,679
Speaker 5: This is crazy.

601
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: So do you give so do you give credit to

602
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,840
the theory that people have put out there that the

603
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,599
forbidden fruit was actually Satan putting his seat inside of Eve?

604
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: I do.

605
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: And then she showed Adam when he came back, and

606
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,400
so she had twins, one of Adam and one of Satan.

607
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:02,639
Speaker 4: Yes, sir. And it's not till the last year that

608
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:08,239
I have come to this and I tell people I

609
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,920
was guilty of something that I chastised people for. You know,

610
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:15,800
even on my show, I talk about you know, hey,

611
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,599
don't take my word for it. Listen to what I

612
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,960
got to say, but then go search yourself and see

613
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,760
if I miss something or if I got it wrong.

614
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,440
Don't rely on other people's interpretations on stuff, because we

615
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,400
can get stuff wrong, and you might have a different

616
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,960
viewpoint of perspective or revelation that I don't. And like

617
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,320
doctor Michael Hies and some of these guys that I

618
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,840
looked up to and highly respected, they laughed at this

619
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,039
serpency doctrine in theory and said it was bunk and

620
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,639
it wouldn't worth looking into. So I never did. I

621
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,480
just I took their word for it. Oh and I

622
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,559
actually had a conversation with a woman. Her name was

623
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:02,239
doctor Joey Pugh, and she came on the show and

624
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,039
she started talking about the serpent seed. And I'm not

625
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,840
gonna lie. At first, I was like, oh God, here

626
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,480
we go. You know we're going to go down a

627
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:17,159
wacky road here, man. But I kept my mind open.

628
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,000
I left my preconceived notions and dogma and teachings and

629
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,880
doctrine at the door and sat there with a blank slate,

630
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,960
opened mind, and heard her out. Give her an honest listen.

631
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,880
And she completely blew my mind and changed my mind.

632
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:42,119
And she says in there, she said, number one, they

633
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,440
partake of this tree. And she said, and growing up,

634
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,800
I was always told about this apple, she said. Once

635
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,920
I got to reading the story for myself, she said,

636
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,440
there is no apple. She said, I said to myself,

637
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,559
where's the apple? And she said in church, you know,

638
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,800
proper society, they don't want to talk about sex, so

639
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,880
they algorize stuff. And she said, and you have a serpent,

640
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,719
which in Hebrew that is the word nakash, And the

641
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,960
Hebrew language is just like English, one word can have

642
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,719
multiple meanings. Yeah, that word can mean nakash, but it

643
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,599
can also mean the shining one or the one who

644
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:32,519
practices divin nation. So with the context of that passage,

645
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,800
you know what makes more sense. A talking snake deceived

646
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,760
Adam and Eve and caused the fall of humanity, or

647
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:47,679
a divine being on God's holy mountain rebelled against God

648
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,239
and caused the fall of humanity. To me, that the

649
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,519
latter makes a lot more sense, of course, But with

650
00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:01,280
the serpent imagery, you know, serpents can be phallic imagery.

651
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,559
Trees can be phallic imagery. And it says that they

652
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:12,639
partake of this tree, and then what happens They immediately

653
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:18,159
cover their private parts, their sexual organs.

654
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: And why as if you got walked in on, you know,

655
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,840
like if you were like the teenagers having sex and

656
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
the parents came in and you were like, oh, fuck

657
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,199
your dad, you know, like cover yourself up type of

658
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:31,880
a thing, Like why would they cover themselves up if

659
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,960
they were eating an apple?

660
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: Exactly? And she used the illustration. She said, my mother

661
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,760
was very strict. She said, we wasn't allowed to have

662
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
sweets before dinner. And she said, we kept a cookie

663
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,360
jar by the refrigerator. And she said, we were all

664
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,920
in the kitchen. Mother was cooking and she had to

665
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,079
leave the kitchen and go into the living room for something,

666
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,000
and me and my sister thought that we could sneak

667
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,639
up there and steal a cookie and eat it before

668
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:02,000
she came back in. And she said, long story short,

669
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:05,199
we got caught. And she said when she walked in,

670
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,119
she said, you know what was the first thing that

671
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:14,119
we did. She said, we covered our mouth. She said,

672
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,559
because that's where the sin was, that's where the transgression was.

673
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,239
That's what we wanted to hide. That was what we

674
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,920
were ashamed of. Yep, she said, so once they particular

675
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,840
this tree, they all of a sudden cover their private parts,

676
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,599
their sexual organs. And then she said, this was old Testament,

677
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,079
the Mosaic law. She said, it was eye for an eye,

678
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:39,519
tooth for a tooth. And she said all of the

679
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:44,000
cursings in the Bible run directly parallel with the sin,

680
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,199
and usually you get the opposite of what you're trying

681
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:52,320
to achieve. She said, So what she said, let's look

682
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,840
at the cursings. She said. Number one, Eve was cursed

683
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,119
with the painful minstrual cycles and bleeding. She was cursed

684
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:08,960
with painful childbirth and child bearing and carrying the burden

685
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,320
and the pains of this child. She said, Then her

686
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,719
seed is cursed, she said, did not only that the

687
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:26,440
serpent's seed is cursed. She said, every single action, every

688
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:34,519
single cursing, all has to do with sex. And I was, like,

689
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,559
I said, going into this conversation, I was like, now,

690
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:38,960
this stuff's laughable, you.

691
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: Know, right, But this is crazy to me because in

692
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,079
my head, like the ultimate sin would be like murder, rape,

693
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:50,840
and pedophilia. Like sex doesn't even come into it because

694
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,599
we've made it so easily accessible and we live in

695
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,840
this hookup culture to where you don't even think about it,

696
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,079
you know.

697
00:40:58,159 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: It's like having.

698
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,199
Speaker 3: Multi partners before you get married is normal, and what's

699
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,559
not normal is saving yourself before marriage nowadays. So it's

700
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,119
just it's crazy to me that that is the biggest

701
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:12,599
sin and the original sin.

702
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when you go like into the etymology

703
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:21,039
of the names, you know, when your mother became pregnant

704
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:25,840
with you, she was extremely excited, and all mothers picking

705
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,079
the name is important. You know, they probably have twenty

706
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:33,280
to thirty different names that they're debating on and weeding out,

707
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,920
talking it over with their husband to figure out the

708
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840
name is important. It's not something that it's like, I

709
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,840
will just call him this, No, I mean it involves

710
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:51,320
a lot of thought and time. Well, Caine's name means acquired.

711
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,320
What loving mother names their child acquired?

712
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: Wow, that's fucked up, you know, fastard child.

713
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: Yess exactly that, that's the point. And then Abel. Abel's

714
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:13,280
name means breath. And why is that? Because if you

715
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,079
remember when God created Adam, he was a lifeless body

716
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:23,559
until God breathed the breath of life into him. So

717
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,639
Abel was named after his father because he was in

718
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:34,079
the image of his father. Cain was not. And the

719
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:39,440
people that want to throw away the serpent seed theory,

720
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:41,800
you know, the people that hold to the serpent seed theory,

721
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,320
they have, you know, all these receipts, all of these

722
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,599
good theological points and passages, and I mean I've just

723
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,119
kind of skimmed the surface here. I mean, there's so

724
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,320
much more right and all the people that want to

725
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,320
throw it away, all they have brother is one verse.

726
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,320
The entire Biblical text of all the extra biblical texts,

727
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:10,320
the Rabbinic legends and lores everything they have one verse,

728
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,599
and that verse says after they were kicked out, It

729
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:20,679
says that Adam knew his wife and she bore came

730
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,840
and then again bore Abel. So they say, what serpent

731
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,679
seed is dead? It says right there that Adam knew

732
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:36,840
his wife and she bore came. Case closed, And I'm like, no,

733
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,440
if the serpent laid with her and done germinated a seed.

734
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,760
And then afterwards Adam knew his wife, he just germinated

735
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,840
another seed and they birth twins. And then that same

736
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:59,400
like the next verse, it says that when Cain was born,

737
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:05,039
she makes this proclamation and she says, I have acquired

738
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:11,679
this man through the help of the Lord. And then

739
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,599
when Abel is born, he doesn't get no special proclamation.

740
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,840
It just says, and out came Abel. And when I

741
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,639
was reading that, the Lord is the divine name, you

742
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,679
know the tetragrammaton the old hay vov hay. That name

743
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:35,599
wasn't given until Exodus. It was given to Moses first,

744
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,079
and Moses is said to have written Genesis. But one

745
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:45,199
thing that puzzled me was reading through Genesis. Up until

746
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,039
this point, every single time that God is referred to,

747
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,159
they don't use the divine name. They say Elohim. And

748
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,599
God created the heavens in the earth. The Elohim created

749
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:02,599
the heavens in the earth. And that word can be

750
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:07,760
plural or singular, So the context of how it's used

751
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,559
is important. But in the plural sense, it's talking about

752
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:16,480
the divine Council, and so it can talk about, you know,

753
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:22,639
a group of supernatural entities. Satan is a Lohem. He's

754
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:29,480
not the Loheim. He is a Lohem. The archangel, Michael, Gabriel,

755
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,840
all these characters you hear about are all Loheim, not

756
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:40,599
the Lohem. Though, So I'm like, if Moses wrote this

757
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,800
entire book, why would he use Elohem and then all

758
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,239
of a sudden change it to the divine name. So

759
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,639
to me, I was like, if I'm writing a book

760
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,000
and talking about somebody and I refer to them in

761
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,000
this certain time, I'm going to use that term throughout

762
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,119
the Bible or the whole book. I'm not just going

763
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,320
to suddenly change what I'm calling this person. So to me,

764
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,960
I was like, this signals to me that Moses wasn't

765
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,159
the only writer and when we see the name change,

766
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
that shows where Moses picked up because Moses was the

767
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000
only one at that time that knew the divine name.

768
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,079
So when I got to research and I found you know,

769
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,320
hundreds of years ago scholars had noticed this and studied

770
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,599
it and searched it out, and they come to the

771
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:37,280
conclusion that Moses was going off of two to three

772
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,400
different source texts, that the Creation had already been written down.

773
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,960
And where we see this divine name is where Moses

774
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,440
picks up and takes off. So like out of respect

775
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,079
he left you know, the original writings of Creation was

776
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:56,639
all using the term Elohem, so out of respect he

777
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,800
kept it the same. But where he picked up, that's

778
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,320
where you see this divine name inserted. So I postulate

779
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,840
the question in the book, I'm like eloheim was used

780
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,000
of God and other gods angelic beings until this point,

781
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,280
and all of a sudden it changed. Could it be

782
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:22,519
that the original writings said I have acquired came through

783
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:32,880
the help of the eloheim originally? And what Lohem the nakash?

784
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: Who who would Moses have picked up the writings from? Though?

785
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:40,199
Speaker 2: Would it have been Adam?

786
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: Who knows? Honestly, that's just one of those things. It's

787
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,239
just the scholars come up with, Like I said, I mean,

788
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,840
they've not discovered these source texts.

789
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: Right, it would make sense the way that you broke

790
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,159
it down, like you're not going to be telling the

791
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,199
story of a person and changed the name halfway.

792
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: Through exactly, And that's what they come to. The is

793
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,280
like either there was another written account of the creation

794
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,760
that he was going off of, or it was a

795
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,000
well established like oral tradition and story that was verbally told,

796
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,679
you know, in the context of elohem for God's name,

797
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,880
and he just kept it the same, like out of

798
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:28,840
you know, respect for the story. So but it was

799
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,920
just cool just going through this and studying this. Yeah,

800
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,480
and then when I started looking some of the legends

801
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,920
and lore, like when you go to Ezekiel twenty eight,

802
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:44,199
that's a verse that where they're giving a condemnation to

803
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,679
the King of Tire, but halfway through the wording changes

804
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:51,800
and it's no longer talking to this king. It's clearly

805
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,840
talking to a divine being. And in there it says

806
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,360
you were in the garden of Eden, you were made

807
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,280
perfect in all of your ways, and it says every

808
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,760
precious stone was your covering tard a topaz barrel onyx

809
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,840
Jasper and it names all these stones, and in the

810
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,800
Masoretic text it lists nine, but when you go to

811
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,559
the septuagen they list twelve. And it says, you know

812
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,280
that these garments were beautiful and had gold inlays and

813
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,440
all these you know, shiny pretty things all over it.

814
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:37,119
And it says that you profaned your sanctuaries and you

815
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:40,519
were cast from the mountain of God as a profane thing,

816
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,960
you know. And the scholarship is unanimous that this is

817
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,800
talking about Satan. And when I read that, I was like,

818
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,360
this sounds like the priestly ephod because they wore this

819
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,599
epod with this breastplate that had twelve stones, and those

820
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,360
stones are multicolored, and it's got all these little gold

821
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,920
inlays and pens and tassels. It's really ornate. And then

822
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,039
it goes on to say that he profaned his sanctuaries.

823
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,440
I was like, it's paint and Satan in a priestly role.

824
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:16,760
He's wearing the priestly garments. It says that he has

825
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,440
a sanctuary and that he defiled it and then was

826
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,760
cast out of of the mountain of God. And so

827
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:31,960
then I was like, what if at the Serpent's fall

828
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,280
that before he was the king and priest of creation

829
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,599
and had a sanctuary and this priestly ephod and that

830
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,639
the skins are the you know, the English translation to skins.

831
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,760
But the coverings given to Adam and Eve when they

832
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:54,039
left the garden was the coverings of the Nakash, the

833
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:58,840
priestly Ephod. And when I got to look in through

834
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,679
like the Rabbinic traditions, they all say that Adam was

835
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:11,159
the first king and priest of earth, and all rabbis

836
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,840
trace their beginnings and lineages to Adam, saying that he

837
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,119
was the first king and priests. So he had these garments.

838
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,119
So it's you know, not out of the question to

839
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:29,360
say that at the Nakash the serpent's fall, his position

840
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,519
was taken away from him, his garments taken and given

841
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:36,280
to humanity. And this was symbolically God giving the dominion

842
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,239
of earth to mankind. And that's what these garments are.

843
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,119
Speaker 3: Bron and that's why that's why demons and they hate us.

844
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,559
They hate us because we've taken what was promised to

845
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:52,639
them in the beginning.

846
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,199
Speaker 5: And and yeah.

847
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: And it makes perfect sense because this this was a

848
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,880
status since was something that the Nakash war with pride,

849
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,320
and he tried to trick a being that was less

850
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,000
than him, lower than him, and it ended up in

851
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:16,000
his downfall, and his position was taken away and given

852
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,559
to the ones he tried to trick and destroy. That

853
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,000
alone would make Satan hate.

854
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: You, oh definitely.

855
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: And and not only that, like why why would he

856
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,960
want to corrupt so many people too, not only to

857
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:35,559
hurt to hurt God, but also you know, just out

858
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:40,719
of spite, like that one motherfucker, that one asshole got

859
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,400
away from me, I'm going to take it out on everybody.

860
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: But you know, and I've.

861
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,559
Speaker 3: I've thought about this a lot too, because I have

862
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,760
held on to the idea that there was twins and

863
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,039
one came from one came from Satan, and one came

864
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:54,719
from Adam.

865
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 2: And you know, that just makes me wonder.

866
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:02,199
Speaker 3: How these obviously elite it's they're they're very, very in

867
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,159
tuned with bloodlines, and they pay attention to that ship

868
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,079
and they want to keep them as pure as possible.

869
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,559
But you know, us much down here walking around in

870
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:18,159
normal world, we probably are muddled with both mm hmm yep,

871
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:22,639
and so and so that that also makes me wonder

872
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,639
is there anybody that is pure? You know, it says

873
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:28,440
that we all have sin in us and the only

874
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,840
perfect man was Jesus, And that would make a lot

875
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,800
of sense because we all come from a half evil seed.

876
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that and I also answers the question of

877
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,679
why was it so important for the biblical riders to

878
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,599
keep up with these genealogies. This one begot this one,

879
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:54,159
this one begot that one. And Cain was removed from

880
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:58,559
that lineage. You see a branching off in two trees

881
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,320
or two branches of the same tree, and they traced

882
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,119
them and tracked them because if there was not a

883
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,960
serpent seed line, if there is not a seed war,

884
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,400
what is the point and purpose of keeping up with

885
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,480
all of that? And God protected that line and kept

886
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:23,000
it pure for the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ. And people

887
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,880
talk about like Enoch. You know, Enoch was the seventh

888
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,960
from Adam. Technically he wasn't. The only reason he is

889
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:37,159
is because Cain was moved out of that line. And

890
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:41,000
when you have Jesus talking to the Pharisees at one point,

891
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:42,760
and some of the people that want to, you know,

892
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,159
laugh at the serpent seed theory use this too, And

893
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,599
they say, when Jesus was talking to the Pharisees, he says,

894
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,679
you know you are a pit of vipers. He said,

895
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,760
you are of your father, the devil, who was a

896
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,719
murderer from the beginning. He's talking about Cain Dan.

897
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

898
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: And so they say, oh, well, a satan just going

899
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,519
around screwing everybody, and all those people were literal certain

900
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,960
serpent seeds. I wont know that was a theological argument,

901
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:17,840
saying they were spiritually doing the will of the nakash.

902
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,840
But if you keep reading that context. A lot of

903
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,840
people like to cherry pick little things, but it's like

904
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,800
if you read the full thing and get the full

905
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:30,960
picture in context, the very next line is telling because

906
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,320
the Pharisees respond with, we wasn't born of fornication. We

907
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:45,079
have but one father. Yahweh. They're talking about Cain, who

908
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:51,519
was born in fornication and had multiple fathers. We were

909
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,599
not born at fornication. We have but one father, yahwah.

910
00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.

911
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: Why would somebody two day that knows the Bible and

912
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:09,440
other texts insite and out not be able to say yahweh,

913
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:11,880
Like if I was having this conversation with somebody and

914
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,599
they kept saying uh, begins with a why and ends

915
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:18,199
with an H instead of saying the name. Why in

916
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,519
the fuck would that be. I'm just curious because I

917
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,480
had a guest on that was doing that, and somebody

918
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:26,719
was like, yo, man, they're probably a demon and they

919
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,960
can't physically say it.

920
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but I do know like far As,

921
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,760
like the Jewish thought, uh, they held the name in

922
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,480
such high reverence. They thought that, you know, their lips

923
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:45,199
were not even clean enough to utter the name, and

924
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,719
so they wouldn't say it. It was sacred. And that's

925
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,360
why in your Bible, if you look, every time you

926
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:56,960
have the Lord in all caps, they have inserted that

927
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,519
because in the original text is the tetrig grind Amaton

928
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,840
the yotey bob Hay, but they say out of reverence

929
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:11,440
and respect, they substituted it with the Lord instead. It

930
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:13,440
might be one of those things because there's some people

931
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,559
that are like uber strict on the Torah laws and

932
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,920
follow the Torah and the ways of the Jews. So

933
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,400
maybe some people kind of take that standpoint that they

934
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,599
think it's just so sacred that they can't say it.

935
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: Uh. His standpoint is that Jesus was a master occultist

936
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,599
that performed a ritual and buried the heart of a

937
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:38,320
lion in the city streets in order to gain followers

938
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,760
for eternity. So I don't think it was out of respect.

939
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: No, that's just a really delusional person. It sounds like.

940
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: Or just readings that I'm not privy to, you know,

941
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:55,800
because he did say he started out as a well,

942
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,639
he started out and Catholicism and then heavy into Christianity,

943
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,480
which I mean we could say Catholics are Christian and

944
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:10,440
now he's where I just said he is.

945
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,519
Speaker 4: So yeah, and a lot of people too, they get

946
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:18,719
wrapped up and lost into the lot of the Gnostic

947
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,880
writings and teachings, and that's where you get a lot

948
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,000
of stuff that's similar to that that Christ wasn't the

949
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,320
son of God. He was a man just like us,

950
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,599
but received a christ consciousness, and that we all can

951
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:36,679
do that because God is within us, He's not some

952
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:42,519
external thing. And that Catholicism has lied to you and

953
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,880
tricked you and enslaved you to the system. That God

954
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,119
is really inside of you. And just like Buddha and

955
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:51,960
Mohammed and all these other people that achieved enlightenment and

956
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:56,280
done god like things. They found the God within themselves

957
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,920
and got this God consciousness. And they even talk about

958
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:04,480
they theorized that the Lost Years of Jesus, he went

959
00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:08,400
to India and become an ascended Master and came back

960
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,679
and done all this stuff. And there's lots of a culty,

961
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:17,079
witchy New Age type stuff embedded into that. And they

962
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:20,199
call themselves Gnostics, and it's just like a to them,

963
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,519
it's like a just a branch off of Christianity. But

964
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:28,079
in fact, I mean, it's got a Christian coat, but

965
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:31,800
that's yet the rest of it is the complete inversion

966
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,639
of the Christian thought.

967
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would appear that they're worshiping the demand in

968
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:41,639
a different way.

969
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,079
Speaker 4: You know.

970
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know how to feel about that, because

971
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,440
it is fun to think about that, you know, like, oh,

972
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,639
we can become gods ourselves. Yeah, and there is a

973
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:57,639
passage and I'm horrible at naming exact scriptures, but and

974
00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:59,800
maybe I'm wrong, but does he not say that you

975
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:01,119
who can achieve this.

976
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: Well, what he says is that everybody his apostles were marveling,

977
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:13,000
you know, at the works he was doing. And yeah,

978
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:16,760
he said, marvel not. He said that when once I

979
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,800
leave and the Helper comes. He's talking about the Holy Spirit.

980
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:23,760
He said, you will do greater things than I. So

981
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,880
he you know, and then you see the apostles in

982
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,599
scripture casting out demons and performing miracles and doing these

983
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:34,880
things too. But that's what he said. The key point

984
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,760
was is once the Helper comes, you know, once the

985
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,679
Holy Spirit comes into your life, and and it does.

986
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:44,920
It sounds kind of similar to what the Gnostics are saying,

987
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,960
But I mean that that's what Satan likes to do.

988
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,960
In my opinion. He likes to give you nine truths

989
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,519
to give you that one perverted lie, because that one

990
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:55,079
is all he needs, you know what I mean.

991
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,719
Speaker 3: Yes, every good psiop has a bunch of truths to

992
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,800
make it believable.

993
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we keep going with the bloodlines, and how

994
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,599
do we get essentially Bigfoot?

995
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:17,079
Speaker 4: Well see, that's what I was saying, was, uh, when

996
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:20,480
Esau come out like that, that he was clearly different.

997
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,239
And if we let the text say what it says,

998
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,159
I mean, if we saw this guy out in the

999
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,800
woods today, we would say, hey, this is a big Foot.

1000
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:34,199
And once you follow the narrative, and I go really

1001
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:38,960
deep into the genealogy and the family line, because once

1002
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:43,400
he trades his birth right to Jacob, it's kind of like,

1003
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,559
you know, he had his fingers crossed behind his back.

1004
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:47,360
It's like, yeah, I'll tell you what you want to hear,

1005
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,559
but if I live through this, I'm not giving you

1006
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:55,159
the birth right. And when Isaac, his father is dying,

1007
01:01:56,519 --> 01:02:01,760
he tells Esau, you know I'm dying. I want a

1008
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,199
taste of your game one more time. Go out, go

1009
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,239
on a hunt, kill me a wild beast, prepare me

1010
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:15,519
a good meal like you always do, and I will

1011
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:19,480
bestow the blessing upon you. And that's another thing too,

1012
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:24,320
was Esau was the mighty hunter. He wouldn't have been starving.

1013
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:28,880
He could easily went out and killed a lion and

1014
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,159
had a lion's steak if he wanted it. Why would

1015
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:37,079
the mighty hunter, who's an expert hunting and cooker, be

1016
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:41,079
starving to death and begging for a lentinyl stew? Don't

1017
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:47,639
make sense? But he leaves and goes to go on

1018
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:51,199
this hunt where Rebecca is standing by the tent and

1019
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:56,280
overhears the conversation, and then she tells Jacob. She says,

1020
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,840
go out, into the field, kill a young girl and

1021
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,000
bring it to me, and I will prepare a delicious

1022
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:09,679
meal for your father. You go in and pretend to

1023
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:16,440
be Esaul and still the blessing because Isaac was blind.

1024
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:21,280
And Jacob his first response, he says, but mother, I'm

1025
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:27,519
a smooth man. He will feel of me and see

1026
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,119
that I am deceiving him, and he will bestow a

1027
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:34,440
curse upon me instead of a blessing. And she says,

1028
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,800
just do as I say, and if there is a cursing,

1029
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:42,760
allow it to fall on my head. Just do as

1030
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,119
I say. So Jacob goes out, he kills a goat,

1031
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,079
brings it in. The mother prepares the meat, makes this

1032
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,719
grand meal. And then before he goes in, it says,

1033
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,679
she takes the goat skin and wraps it around him.

1034
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:07,599
Oh shit, like a blanket. So some people want to say, oh, well,

1035
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:10,840
when Esau come out and said he was covered in hair,

1036
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,440
that was kind of hyperbole. They were just exaggerating a little,

1037
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,119
you know, he just had a good thick beard and

1038
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,119
some hairy arms as he got older. No, he was

1039
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:22,840
literally covered in hair from head to toe like a

1040
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,840
Harry Cloak, so much so that they had to wrap

1041
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:30,559
their brother in a goat's fur to deceive their blind father.

1042
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,239
And if you've ever, you know, been around goats, they

1043
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,679
smell bad. They got a putrid smell. Their coats are

1044
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:46,280
very thick and matted and oily and coarse, yes, very coarse.

1045
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,519
And it says that once she does this, but then

1046
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,280
she adds the cherry on top, it says, and a

1047
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,880
lot of people miss it, but if you have this

1048
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,400
perspective and this lens of this stuff we've been talking

1049
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,360
about today, you catch it. But it says that once

1050
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,320
she wraps him in this goats fur, then she goes

1051
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:12,719
to the tint of Esau and takes his special garment,

1052
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:20,039
addresses Jacob in a special garment, and then sends him

1053
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:24,880
into the tent. And when he goes in, Isaac says,

1054
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:30,960
I hear the voice of my younger son, Jacob, but

1055
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:37,760
I feel my son Esau. And then he says, but

1056
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:43,960
you smell of the field, my son. You must be Esau.

1057
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,719
And you hear about these phantom putrid smells associated with Bigfoot, Yes,

1058
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,119
you do, so, I picked up on that. And it

1059
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:59,480
says that he eats the meal, he bestows the blessing

1060
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:02,960
in the birth right on Jacob and he leaves. Shortly

1061
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,159
after he leaves, Esau returns and says, here father arives

1062
01:06:08,239 --> 01:06:13,119
and eat the meat of my game. And he says,

1063
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,519
I've already ate of your your game and gave you

1064
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:23,679
your blessing. He said, no, you didn't, father, and then

1065
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:27,360
they realized the fix was in, and it says that

1066
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:32,840
Esau become angry, so angry that he started to cry

1067
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,639
and asked his father, well, do you have another blessing

1068
01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:38,960
for me?

1069
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: Father?

1070
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,599
Speaker 4: I'm the eldest. Do I get nothing? And Jacob the

1071
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:50,199
supplanter gets away with everything and he was like, what's

1072
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:53,159
done is done, my son, I've already given the blessing

1073
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:58,239
and basically, sorry, your shit out of luck, and it

1074
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,800
says that he becomes so angry he vows to kill

1075
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:07,159
his brother, and Rebecca overhears and warns Jacob tells him

1076
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:11,440
to leave, to go to Haran, the land of her Kinsman,

1077
01:07:12,639 --> 01:07:18,760
and hide there until his brother's anger subsides. And what's

1078
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,639
really interesting is like when I got into like I

1079
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:24,440
was talking about Ginsburg and his legends of the Jews,

1080
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:28,400
it says that when this happens that he saw becomes

1081
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:34,760
angry and threatens to kill Jacob, but he says, I

1082
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,239
will not kill him with sword nor bow. He said,

1083
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:46,440
I will bite his neck and drain him of his blood.

1084
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,960
I will suck his blood dry, and I will bite

1085
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:55,960
his neck until he is dead. Interesting, very savage and

1086
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:57,159
very vamporistic.

1087
01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, vampirist.

1088
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 4: And then this is when Esau goes into absolute full rebellion.

1089
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:12,800
He takes three wives. Two of them are Canaanites, which

1090
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,239
they were sworn not to do. They were a cursed lineage.

1091
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,680
And when thanks to people like Gary Wayne, who has

1092
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,760
really deep dyed of these genealogies, I found out that

1093
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:31,920
the brides that he took were from known giant clans.

1094
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,600
So he married into giant clans, possibly marrying giant giantesses

1095
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,079
right and bred with them.

1096
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: And he was already big himself.

1097
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:48,359
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, he was already huge and harry and then

1098
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:52,159
married into these Nephelin giant clans and started breeding with them.

1099
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:59,000
And then his third wife he went to Ishmael. And

1100
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:06,600
Ishmael was his father, Isaac's older brother, and just like Esau,

1101
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:12,279
Ishmael was the eldest born son and was screwed out

1102
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:20,000
of his birthright and kicked out of the family. So Abraham,

1103
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,640
Isaac's father and mother, Sarah, were barren. They couldn't conceive,

1104
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:33,079
so Sarah, out of fear, gives him her handmaiden, Hagar.

1105
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,039
And when you read through Genesis, you find out that

1106
01:09:38,199 --> 01:09:41,680
is like a peace treaty or an alliance. The Pharaoh

1107
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:47,079
of Egypt gave them his daughter Hagar as a servant,

1108
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:51,159
so she was an Egyptian princess. Oh she had the

1109
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:58,960
royal blood, and Abraham slept with her and conceived Isaac.

1110
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:04,079
I'm sorry, not isa but Ishmael. And then later God

1111
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:10,920
blesses Sarah's womb and she conceives Isaac, and Sarah becomes

1112
01:10:11,039 --> 01:10:16,680
jealous over Hagar, and knowing that Ishmael was the eldest

1113
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,239
son and would receive the blessings in the birthright, and

1114
01:10:21,319 --> 01:10:25,880
tells Abraham they got to go. My son is the

1115
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,800
chosen seed. He's going to get the blessing in the birthright,

1116
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:34,159
and Ishmael and Hagar have to go. So they kick

1117
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:38,600
them out of the family, expel them. So when Esau

1118
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,520
gets screwed over by his birthright and younger brother, he

1119
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,239
goes to somebody that's going to sympathize with him. And

1120
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:52,039
you can imagine the hatred that was brood from that union,

1121
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,760
oh for sure. And the genealogies when you trace those

1122
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:02,479
from the union of Esau, which was the Edomites, which

1123
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:07,079
were the enemies to God's people, first ones to attack

1124
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:11,439
them when they come out of Egypt. And said that

1125
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,039
the Edomites stood by and let the Babylonians enter Jerusalem

1126
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:17,359
and burn it to the ground. And it said that

1127
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:22,119
the Edamites stood and watched and clapped and applauded as

1128
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,760
the Jews were chained and dragged into captivity into Babylon.

1129
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,039
And so you had those peoples, and then you had

1130
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:36,640
the Ishmaelites. So when they bred together, they formed all

1131
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:42,880
of the Muslim nations and people groups that utterly hate

1132
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:46,000
God's chosen people and want them exterminated and wiped off

1133
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:49,479
the face of the earth. This is the seed War,

1134
01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:52,520
and you see it playing out today in the news.

1135
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,239
This whole Israel. Constantly, it wore two people groups laying

1136
01:11:57,239 --> 01:12:00,439
claimed this one piece of land, neither one of them

1137
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,840
wanting to give. That's because this other people group is

1138
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,760
from the line of Esau and they feel they were

1139
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,880
screwed out of their birthright and they want it back.

1140
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 3: So what do you think about Trump coming in and

1141
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,399
taking their ball away so they can't play anymore.

1142
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,199
Speaker 4: And you might have give me some more context on that.

1143
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: Oh, so he Trump said that we're taking over the

1144
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,199
Gaza strip and claiming it as American territory so that

1145
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:34,079
they'll stop fighting over it, and he's you didn't hear

1146
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:34,439
about this?

1147
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 5: Well.

1148
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 4: See, honestly, I used to be like religiously involved with

1149
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,960
the news, and once you had the last election, screwed job,

1150
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:47,439
I believe that the presidency was totally ripped away from

1151
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,079
Donald Trump and it was a total steal. Yeah. I

1152
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:53,560
was so mad, I couldn't even see straight. And I

1153
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,399
was like, you know what, I know how this movie ends.

1154
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,720
The woman's tied on the train tracks and the trains

1155
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,800
come and she's going to get splattered, and I don't

1156
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,760
need to play by play. So I turned off the news,

1157
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,880
quit watching it. And where I've not been watching the

1158
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,680
news or keeping up with it for like the past

1159
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,520
four years, it's kind of hard for me to get

1160
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,760
back in the habit of watching it again. So the

1161
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,319
only kind of news I get anymore is just maybe

1162
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,520
instagram'scrolling or Facebook's rolling and come across something I'm kind

1163
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,359
of in the dark.

1164
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 3: Well good, you should never nobody should ever watch the news.

1165
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,079
It's propaganda from the gate, you know. Ever since Obama

1166
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,680
had his way with the Smith Muns Act, they've been

1167
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,520
able to legally feed us propaganda down our fucking throats.

1168
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,000
So yeah, nobody should ever watch the news. But yeah,

1169
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:43,520
so I keep up on all that shit because kind

1170
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,960
of have to with my show and other shows that

1171
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,640
I do with other people. And yeah, so Trump said,

1172
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,279
you guys can't play with this ball anymore. I'm taking it.

1173
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,920
And so he said that he's going to take over.

1174
01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:00,319
We're taking over the guy's strip and he is going

1175
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:03,920
to rebuild it and give it back to the people.

1176
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:08,880
We'll see what happens there. But yeah, very very interesting

1177
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,840
things happening.

1178
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Speaker 2: And I have a.

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Speaker 3: Feeling that these people that are playing playing the strings

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and pulling the puppet strings behind the scenes are pushing

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us towards a fabricated arm and geddon I think that

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they want it to happen so bad that the one

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that we're going to get is fabricated. I just that's

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my opinion on it, And it could be so bad

1185
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that it brings in the real one. But aren't we

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supposed to be under slave control for like a thousand years,

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like under a one world government.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, I could accord to the Book of Revelation,

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you know, you have the well they call it Satan's

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little season. And that's one thing that I love reading

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the Bible and know quite a bit, you know, about stuff,

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01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:05,560
and like researching it. But most of mine's kind of

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been like stuck in the Old Testament and the ancient

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01:15:08,319 --> 01:15:12,000
history stuff. I used to really be into revelation, but

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as I got older, I just started becoming fascinated with

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history and stuff. So like my how you call it

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,000
my timeline and remembrance of all the stuff and revelations

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01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:29,000
kind of hazy, but I think that's I think Christ

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is supposed to come back and reign, and then Satan

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has his thousand year reign and then Christ comes back

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and wipes them out and destroys them. Because I know

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01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:45,079
some people talk about they think that we are in

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01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:49,680
Satan's little season now, and I'm like, yeah, well we've

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I don't see Christ sitting on the throne and ruling

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01:15:56,119 --> 01:15:59,279
and Heaven being on earth yet, so I'm still waiting

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for that part.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I'm curious what what became of

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this bloodline. Obviously we're we're kind of saying that they

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were the first big Foot sightings, and then now we

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have if we're able to tie these in together, we

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kind of have the lineage.

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Speaker 2: We can go back and we have the.

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Speaker 3: History of how it started. But now we have you know,

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we have Yetty's, we have the Sasquatches here. I don't

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know if dog Man plays into any of this at all.

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So how did do you do? You have a timeline

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of how they started branching off and just kind of

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being all all over the flat plane that we live on.

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Speaker 4: No, I just kind of laid out that that general

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history and how it started, But then I do talk

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about how, uh we see remnants of it, because like

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in Europe you have the wood wofs, the wild man

1223
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and all these stories and feral people, you know, and

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that's how you kind of get to there. And of course,

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like with any race or any animal, you have types

1226
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and you have kinds. So you know, like you were saying,

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the Yetty and all these other different kind of variants,

1228
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but it's still the It's just a branch off of

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this same kind, right, And then you go to like Sardinia,

1230
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you have the mathones and during the winter solstice, if

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you like, look that up. It's wild they and you've

1232
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probably seen videos of it. But like these people during

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:49,319
the winter solstice cover themselves in black goats, fur and

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wear these hand carved wooden masks and strap all kinds

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of various sized bells on their back. And they ants

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through the street and they ring these bells, and then

1237
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there's these guys dressed in red that come behind them

1238
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with whips and chase them off, and they whip the

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women and grabbed the women and seize the women. And

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I was like, dude, this is like, yeah, he saw

1241
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,279
Neffolom giants and the how the fallen angels seized the

1242
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women and had their way with them. And the people

1243
01:18:24,279 --> 01:18:27,560
of that country they say that they don't even remember

1244
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where this comes from. No way, really that stems back

1245
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all the way to like archaic times. So they just

1246
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kept the tradition alive. And during this time too, the

1247
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children that are coming of age, it's like a you know,

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a birth ride or a coming of age kind of

1249
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,520
like a bamtzphah or whatever with the Jewish people or

1250
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the sweet sixteen that we have today. They have this

1251
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,680
ceremony where they light this huge bonfire and the kids,

1252
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:05,520
to prove their bravery, have to pass through the fire.

1253
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And I think it's more symbolism of the Canaanites, these

1254
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Nephelim giants sacrificing their children through Timolek and passing their

1255
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children through the fire, and these harry quote unquote men

1256
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dancing through the streets. And then they have what they

1257
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call the tombs of the giants and they bury these giants,

1258
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and then they constructed this temple complex or tomb complex

1259
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around them. And from an aerial view, it's a bull

1260
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:44,880
with horns. In the Bible, you talk about the bulls

1261
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of Bashan, you know. And these kids to prove their

1262
01:19:52,319 --> 01:19:55,800
bravery once again they pass through the fire. But then

1263
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they have to go into this bullhead tomb and spend

1264
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the night. And it's not only to prove their bravery,

1265
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:10,640
but to ask the dead ancestors, the spirit of the giants,

1266
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the mighty warriors, to embody them. And so it even

1267
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,319
goes back to the vikings when you look at the berserkers.

1268
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The berserkers were known just to be wild men, crazy,

1269
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:27,920
being possessed men that they would just wildly charge into battle,

1270
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,239
get stabbed many times, get their arms and limbs cut off,

1271
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:37,840
and still just mindlessly charge, you know, and attack. It's

1272
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:45,039
because they would do these necromantic ancestor worship rituals and

1273
01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:48,880
sacrifice humans and drink the blood, and they would ask

1274
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,680
the dead warrior spirits of their ancestors to embody them.

1275
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,560
And that's how they become so wild and crazy and

1276
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with superhuman strength abilities.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Hollywood does that ship now?

1278
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? But unbeknownst to them, they are inviting the spirits

1279
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,279
of these Nephelim giants.

1280
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Speaker 2: Oh they know it.

1281
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Speaker 3: I mean you hear Beyonce talk about how she gets

1282
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,520
overtaken before she goes on stage and ship, and they

1283
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,479
even have names for them. A lot of them have

1284
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,000
the same fucking name. It's a It's it's a playoff

1285
01:21:24,039 --> 01:21:29,119
of Rainman or Raymond or Raymond for some reason.

1286
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: It's Eminem.

1287
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Speaker 3: Oh and Roman. Uh what's her name? Nicki Minaj talks

1288
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:39,399
about how how she has some the thing that comes

1289
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,640
inside of hers name is Roman. And so they fucking

1290
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,920
do this ship still to this day.

1291
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Speaker 4: And you find remnants of it in the Bible. That's

1292
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,920
calling back to these Canaanote people and stuff. Because while

1293
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:56,439
Esau intermarried into these giant clans, it says in there

1294
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,039
that through his lineage is birth this guy named Amelek,

1295
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and Amelek was known. He was famous as this fearless

1296
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:13,359
Nephelum giant warrior king. He was on the status of

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01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:19,720
og And when you research, you find that he burst

1298
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an entire clan called the Amalekites after his name, and

1299
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:32,199
in Hebrew that name means the blood liquors. Oh shit,

1300
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,439
And it goes back to Esau talking about biting the

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01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,439
neck of his brother and draining his blood until he's dead.

1302
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And this was the group, the Amalekites. They were the

1303
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:45,359
first ones to attack God's people when they come out

1304
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:48,319
of the land of Egypt and was in their wilderness wanderings,

1305
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,399
and it says they picked them off like ghosts. It

1306
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,880
was like the first type of guerrilla warfare. As the

1307
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,039
Jewish people were going through and marching through the wilderness,

1308
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,560
they said, these Amalekites would pick off the people in

1309
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,199
the back. They would take out the young and the

1310
01:23:08,279 --> 01:23:12,439
old and pick them off. They said like ghosts that

1311
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,479
just all of a sudden, people just start disappearing they couldn't

1312
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,319
find them, no trace of them, didn't see them coming

1313
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,279
or going. And then finally after they picked up part

1314
01:23:20,319 --> 01:23:23,279
at him for so long that they finally challenged them

1315
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:27,319
and went head to head in battle with them. And

1316
01:23:27,399 --> 01:23:31,079
that's the famous story that you hear about Moses having

1317
01:23:31,119 --> 01:23:35,239
to raise his staff into the air, and only through

1318
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:41,119
supernatural power were they able to defeat this clan of giants.

1319
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,159
And it says that when his arms would grow tired

1320
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:46,800
and he would drop his staff, that the Amalekites would

1321
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,880
start winning again. And when you start looking through the

1322
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,880
legends of the Jews and some of these mid rashes

1323
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,439
and targems and stuff of the Jews, you find that

1324
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:04,800
the Amalekites were sorcerers. And it says that's why God

1325
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,880
told them when they went into the Holy Land to

1326
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,920
kill every man, woman and child an animal, not to

1327
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,880
even spare the animals, because they were known sorcerers and

1328
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,720
shape shifters, and that they would shape shift into animals

1329
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:26,359
to avoid capture or death. And when you get into

1330
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,079
the wilderness wanderings, you get all these instructions God tells

1331
01:24:31,119 --> 01:24:38,520
his people do not seek sorcerers or necromancers, do not

1332
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,760
drink the blood, do not pass your children through the fire,

1333
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:51,159
And it warns, no longer will you sacrifice to harry

1334
01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:56,720
goat demons who are not God's and that it talks

1335
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,760
about desolate towns and cities in Isaiah and says there

1336
01:25:01,079 --> 01:25:07,520
the wild men dance. So you go back to the

1337
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:13,199
mathones covered in hair dancing through the streets. And I

1338
01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:16,359
think that God's people, while in their wilderness wanderings, were

1339
01:25:16,359 --> 01:25:20,359
having encounters with these Amalekots who were sorcerers, who were

1340
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,640
drinking blood, doing human sacrifice, passing their children through the

1341
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:30,000
fires of molech, practicing necromancy and sorcery, and they were

1342
01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:34,800
imitating them, and they were sacrificing to these hairy goat demons.

1343
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,319
And remember, if you got this hairy quote unquote man

1344
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:44,560
sasquatch Esau breeding with giants, you have a high likelihood

1345
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:50,000
of throwing some strange pups. And that is why during

1346
01:25:50,039 --> 01:25:53,720
this battle Moses had to raise that staff, because it

1347
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,399
was more than just a battle. Moses, in my opinion,

1348
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:03,760
was doing sorcery type warfare against the high priest of

1349
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:08,439
the Amalekites, and only through the supernatural aid of God

1350
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,680
were they able even to beat the Amalekites. So when

1351
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,760
you get into modern day, you know, you get all

1352
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,319
this wu you get you know, the mind speak and

1353
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:22,119
sometimes orbs spottings and things like that.

1354
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Speaker 3: You know.

1355
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,319
Speaker 4: I postulate that according to the Book of Enoch, it

1356
01:26:25,399 --> 01:26:31,119
says that these Nephilim were hybrids. They were neither from

1357
01:26:31,159 --> 01:26:35,359
Heaven nor Earth. So when they died, their bodies remained

1358
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:43,000
to torment mankind and they were called demons. So I

1359
01:26:43,119 --> 01:26:46,479
just kind of postulate. I'm like, you know, could these

1360
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,279
orbs and craft be the conveyance of these fallen angels?

1361
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,640
I believe, so, you know, the crafts they're checking on

1362
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,000
their offspring. You know what I mean? Because if you

1363
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:02,399
were a Nephilum and you died, your spirit remained here

1364
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:07,039
on Earth, and you chose to manifest and torment mankind,

1365
01:27:07,119 --> 01:27:12,239
would you not want to pick a familiar form?

1366
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Speaker 2: Brother, you came, you crush.

1367
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,560
Speaker 3: Can you tell everybody where they can go find your

1368
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,399
show and your book?

1369
01:27:20,279 --> 01:27:22,159
Speaker 4: Oh you man, Thank you man. I appreciate you give

1370
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:25,439
me the time to speak to your listeners and have

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some conversations.

1372
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Speaker 3: Man.

1373
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Speaker 4: I love the exchanging of ideas in these conversations.

1374
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Speaker 2: Yes, I would love to have you back.

1375
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 3: On again too, and you know, go over some of

1376
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,439
this stuff because you blew my mind. You know, I

1377
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,840
am such a busy person that I don't get to

1378
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,840
dig into a lot of the things that I like

1379
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,159
to talk about. So when I have people on to

1380
01:27:45,239 --> 01:27:47,600
come on and they've already done the digging, it's it's

1381
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,239
takes a lot of work away from me.

1382
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Speaker 2: But it's fucking fun.

1383
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,159
Speaker 4: Man.

1384
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Speaker 3: Like a lot of these stories that are in the Bible,

1385
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,399
if we would piece them together in the correct way

1386
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,199
and give them teachings, I think that a lot more

1387
01:27:59,239 --> 01:28:03,640
people would be interested because our history is so much

1388
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,439
better than the things that we're watching on Netflix.

1389
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Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I agree. But yeah, man, if you

1390
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enjoyed the conversation. Each week I do a show. I

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release it Monday at eight pm. The show is called

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Prometheus Lens. If you just search us up on YouTube, Apple, Spotify,

1393
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anywhere you can consume content, you can find me there.

1394
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I'm on all the social media's once again, just search

1395
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,399
that up and you can find me. And the book

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is the Epic of Esau. There's the cover. You got

1397
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a yoked out guy with a bow on his back

1398
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because he was the Mighty Hunter. So but it's called

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The Epic of Esaw, The Birthright and Seed War. You

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can pick this up on Amazon in ebook form for

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ten bucks, or you can get the paperback version for twenty.

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So yeah, just go over there and check that out

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on Amazon. It's actually doing well. It's been out for

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a week now and I've so just shave one hundred

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copies and that's one of the best new release lists

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and so it's doing really well. I'm proud of it. Man,

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A good old boy like me never wrote a book

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and barely finished twelfth grade twenty years ago, you know

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what I'm saying. So I'm sure there's some typos and

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some stuff in there, just overlook that. The thoughts are there, man,

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01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,479
the nuggets are there if you can look over some

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01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,520
typos and stuff.

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01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 2: So, man, I think that is so awesome.

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01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 3: There's been so many topics that I've wanted to write

1415
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,600
a book about and I'm not that person. And you

1416
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,079
obviously convinced yourself that you are that person somehow and

1417
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:42,239
you made it happen. And what a great topic to

1418
01:29:42,319 --> 01:29:46,199
choose to dive into and to do so. I would

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01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:47,920
love to get a copy of that book. So I'll

1420
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go over to Amazon.

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01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: And check that out.

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Speaker 3: Everybody right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna live link that

1423
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,560
right now, so anybody that's interested in that book, I'll

1424
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,039
have the Amazon link right there so that you can

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01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:01,199
go and check that out and get your own copy.

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01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 5: Doc.

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Speaker 3: Man, you came, you crushed, and you blew my mind,

1428
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,039
so I definitely want to have you back on and

1429
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:11,199
further these conversations with you. And thanks man, it's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my mouse is dead and I'm gonna end

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01:30:15,119 --> 01:30:17,840
this the way that I always do. Everybody, keep digging

1432
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down those rabbit holes.

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Speaker 3: M