Speaker 1: Is there illuminatio.
Speaker 2: A new world order?
Speaker 1: While excuse me, has any seen a quite mad? That
was a joke about the world being flat?
Speaker 3: Right? Was it?
Speaker 4: When we are successful? We will we had a real
chance at this new world order.
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Speaker 3: Know the government's life about everything technical.
Speaker 5: Name hey, and welcome fellow truth.
Speaker 3: There's in conspiracy Junkies to another episode of White Rabbit.
I am your host, Chattelist Jones. And as it gets
cold and windy outside, so does the political climate, and
the conspiracies just keep coming true. Our batting average is
at least eight hundred and seventy thousand right now in
the conspiracy world, we are just knocking them out of
the park. And today we're going to jump into something
a little bit crazy. I like to dive into the
past as well, because that's where all the conspiracies come from.
Speaker 2: And today we have somebody that just wrote a brand.
Speaker 3: New book and I fucking wrote it down forgot the
name Epic of Esau, and Doc Brown is here to
talk about the crazy shit.
Speaker 2: That goes along and what made him want to.
Speaker 3: Write this book. So let's get into this doc. Welcome
to the fucking show.
Speaker 4: Brother, hey man, thank you for having me. I love
you work. I followed you stuff on Instagram and stuff
for a while. Your graphics and stuff. You could tell
that you're kind of like me. You're obsessed with your craft.
It shows and your work, man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yes, it's one of those things where like,
so I have ADHD and I like gravitate towards things,
and I master it really fucking quick and then I
move on to the next. And so with podcasting, it's
everything that I've ever been passionate about, from graphic design,
video editing, audio production. So it's like kind of the
coolest fucking thing for me because it's like, shit, does
everything that I've already mastered.
Speaker 2: So I love it same.
Speaker 4: I've become obsessive, compulsive over stuff. I've not mastered it yet,
but it's, uh, you know, all the creative juices that
you get from that, just from the thumbnails to the
audio to the graphics and stuff. So I'm kind of
self teaching myself how to do all this stuff. But yeah,
it's stuff that I really enjoy all wrapped up and won.
It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's it's always you're always going
to be learning. I wouldn't say that I've mastered anything
because the tools are always changing and creativity is always
changing from within a person, So there's never mastering a
creative art form. But I will say that, like when
I went to school for graphic design, and when I
was sitting there, I was thinking, like, why am I
fucking sitting here?
Speaker 2: I know more.
Speaker 3: About these things than the people trying to teach me.
This is retarded, but creativity is something that's just within somebody,
and there's certain sparks that will, uh the catalyst will
bring it out of somebody, and it's not something that
you can teach. You know. You can teach somebody how
to use a paintbrush, how to hold it, and how
to put it to the canvas, but you can't teach
them how to paint a picasso.
Speaker 4: M yep. Agree. Do you either have it or you don't?
Speaker 3: Yep. So you were telling me a little bit about
this book before we jumped on here, and I do
want to get into it. But before we jump into
the book, man, I like to ask people, you know, like,
throughout our lives, we have multiple little tiny red poll moments,
but there's usually just that one old shit everything is
not what I thought it was moment. Do you remember
what that moment was in your life?
Speaker 5: Brother?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was twenty twelve. You know, I grew up
I'm from the Bible Belt if you can't tell by
my dialect here, you know, from East Tennessee. But grew
up in church my whole life, and of course had
my you know, rebellious streak and all that stuff, just
like everybody else. But twenty twelve, I was just mindlessly
scrolling on YouTube and social medias and stumbled across this
guy called Tray Smith from God in a Nutshell and
he was talking about angels coming down and breeding with
the daughters of men and creating Nephelim giants and angels
and aliens and just all this kind of you know,
fantastical stuff that in these circles we run in that
we find ourselves fascinated with and talking about so often.
And I was like, this dude is just full shit.
I know the Bible, well, I've grew up in church
my whole life. This stuff ain't in there, bro. So
I started pulling out my Bible and reading through some
of this stuff. And I was like, oh man, it's here.
It's been here the whole time. And then he introduced
me to Michael Heiser, uh, doctor Aaron Judkins and doctor
Judd Burton and all these guys in this circle that
holds this supernatural worldview. And it was like I was
reading the Bible with a new set of eyes, and
like reading it for the first time. It was something
that I thought I was so familiar with and knew
so well, but I did not know it at all.
And I was always a history buff. I loved history,
and I always kind of gravitated toward conspiracy theories and
stuff like that. So with this new set of glasses
that I had, I was I just found myself connecting
all kinds of dots with ancient history and conspiracy and
cryptids and Bigfoot and just all this stuff. And it
just lit a fireman that to this day I've not
been able to quench.
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting? You know?
Speaker 3: And Sam Tripley talks about this often, that the Bible
is so much more interesting than what they teach us
when we go to church in these organized religious buildings,
And you know, I kind of have my theory on
why they don't teach us the cool shit in the Bible,
and why they've taken out the Book of Enoch and
the cooler writings, you know, like in the Book of
Enoch talks about a lot of what you're talking about,
with the Nephilom and the Beasts of the Fields and
all just the coolest fucking stories, and they've all been
taken out, and the ones that haven't been taken out,
it just kind of brushes over, you know, because it does.
Speaker 2: It's not taken out completely of the Bible.
Speaker 3: It does talk about how the angels came down and
took women for their own and created the Nephilim. But
why do you think that the majority of it is
taken out? My theory is if people don't know their
history and where they're coming from, then they can't prevent
what is supposed to come.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even just like the Genesis six narrative, yeah
it's there, but it's like the theology and the teachings
they have just really whitewashed it. I knew of Genesis six,
but not in that context and with that viewpoint. I
was always taught that the sons of God were the
righteous line of Seth and the Daughters of Men was
the pretty but wicked, spirited line of Cain. That those
two branches of the family tree got together, and that
they bred spiritually wicked people. And these were the rulers
and kings and authorities on earth that were wicked. They
were spiritually descended from this union of the sons of
God with the daughters of Men. And once I got
to searching this stuff out and seeing it for what
it was and what they actually believed, you know, it
was angelic beanks coming down, and then it made so
much more sense to me. And one of my friends
made a comment. When we first started podcasting. It was
the first show that I'd ever done. It was the
Big Bible podcast. And my buddy Chad, he started off
with us for a few months and ended up starting
a business and had to step away. But he said,
I'll never forget it. He said, Yeah, that sethought view,
you know, he said, it sounds good. But then when
you get to thinking about it, he said, kissing cousins
don't make thirty footers, bro.
Speaker 2: No, they don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of stuck.
Speaker 2: And so why why do you think that they hide
this from us?
Speaker 3: Though? Why do you think that they missed intentionally, and
it is intention Is it the Vatican that took these
things out, because everybody says, well, the Vatican took these
things out, and I could see that, you know, and
we can go back to as far as the Knights
Temple are trying to separate and hide certain things once
they started their banking organization. Pretty much, you think that's
when it was decided to start hiding what our past
really is.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that it started as just kind of
like a not being forward thinking of us reading these
texts thousands of years later, because Genesis six, you know,
you just get that little blurb and us reading it today,
we're like, whoa, that's a pretty big deal. I want
some more context on that. But back then when they
were writing it, they were just like, we're not going
to beat a dead horse. Everybody knows about the angelic
beings coming down and breeding with the daughters of men
because we have this strong oral tradition everybody knows. We
don't have to go into detail about that. And we
also have the Book of Enoch that goes into great
detail of this event. So it was like the writers
of the time was like everybody reading this that what
I'm writing here is going to know about Genesis six.
So I don't have to cover that ground. That book's
already been written, that story's already been told. I don't
have to theoretically be a dead horse.
Speaker 3: Right, And we see how that happens, and you know,
I can, I can kind of put this in an
analogy because we deal with this shit at work, and
it's certain people know certain things that are not in
the SOPs. And if you don't know these things, then
what you're trying to accomplish is not going to fucking work.
But these people have this knowledge from being there so long,
they don't think that they have to write it because
it's just instilled in everybody. But yet then when you
get somebody new that comes in and you just hand
them the book, they're not going to know what the
fuck to do.
Speaker 2: And so it gets lost.
Speaker 3: It gets lost just by thinking that that's already instilled
in people.
Speaker 4: Yep. And that's the thing with even Esau. You get
a little blurb about him and then they're like, move on.
But there's so much to the story that's in other
books and other legends and lore, and the people just
writing at the time, just are not thinking forward enough
about the new people coming in and reading this kind
of being in the dark. But when you deal with
you know, the the Council of Nicia, you know, you know,
they got together and got all these different scrolls and
books informed him together to make what we call, you know,
the sixty six book Cannon. I think it was just
one of those things. It was like, we just our
religion is now being established. We're trying to bring all
the people of Rome under the umbrella of Christianity. But
all these other religions, they all have books, but we
don't have a book. We don't have a line in
the sand and showing you the boundaries what we believe,
what we don't believe in like a standard. So they
were just worried about the organization of an organized religion.
So they were like, okay, long as we have the Torah,
which is the history, it shows our creation, our rebellion,
and fall, and then when you get to the New
Testament that is the redemption, you know, and the coming
of Christ and our salvation. Long as we have the
highlights and main points, that's kind of what we're concerned about.
But when you dig in and you see this seed
war of Genesis three fifteen, and a lot of people
in conspiracy circles talk about the Blue Bloods and the
Dragon Court, and these are the rulers and principalities ruling
the earth today. That's part of their lineage. So of
course they want to try to keep that stuff suppressed
and hidden. So it kind of morphed. It started off
as a like an accident, like a we just going
to touch that everybody knows. But then as it started
curving and knowledge started increasing, it was like, Okay, we're
going to keep this kind of shrouded in mystery as
long as we can and not expose ourselves and our agenda.
Speaker 3: Right, And then they took it so far as too.
You can look at older pictures and older newspaper clippings
and stuff like that, and you'll see giants all over
the place, and you can go on my Instagram if
you want, and I have videos of this shit for sure.
But the Smithsonian started taking these these things and hiding
them away and locking them away. And you know, in
my theory is that's where we get these so called
dinosaurs from. But they hide this stuff from us. But
yet they are the ones that are in charge I
feel today and ruling things.
Speaker 2: And I'm just.
Speaker 3: Gonna throw a joke out there. Man, have you seen
fucking Baron Trump. Yeah, that kid is a fucking Nephelo man,
he's like eight foot nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big key had And then you got
all those The Adventures of Baron Trump where you know
it was written back in what like the thirties or something. Yeah,
he's a type. Yeah, he's a time traveler and goes
back in time and his dad becomes the president and
he's the last president and assassination an attempt blows up
Congress And it's pretty wild how that stuff's kind of
playing out, especially when you look in and that in
the book the uncle was named Don. He was a
you know, a big, big brain guy from m I
T or whatever. And then turns out, yeah, uh, they
had a Don that was an uncle that m I T.
Big smart guy. And he was the one called him
by the FBI to examined the paperwork in documents of
Nikola Tesla when he died.
Speaker 3: Yep, and then yep, and he's the one that was
there to confiscate all of that all of that stuff, right, Yeah,
A lot of people say that Donnie has a Donnie
has the capabilities of time travel, so we'll see. You know,
that's a fun one to jump into. I don't necessarily
think that that's true. But there's a lot of similarity,
not similarities. We don't believe in concert or uh yeah, yeah,
I'm fucking it's too early for me.
Speaker 2: We don't believe in.
Speaker 3: I keep wanting to say consequences, coincidences, thank you, sir,
and uh, there's just too many in that book to overlook,
and you know, everywhere from it says in the book
that he he lives in Trump Castle. Well he lived
in the Trump Towers, you know, and there it's I
believe I could be mistaken, but I believe even the
address is like dead on.
Speaker 2: And so I.
Speaker 3: Remember Buck three years ago, probably when there was a
website that came out and I was heavy into the
Q stuff, and a buddy of mine back then he
was like, bro, you got to check this fucking book out,
and yeah, it's a It's definitely one of those head
scratchers for sure. So so you get super interested in
all of this stuff, as we all do. When I
first heard about Nefflim as a child, I was like,
I have to know more of this.
Speaker 2: And my mom didn't know about the Book of Enoch,
so it's like, wow, that's really all there is.
Speaker 3: So and so you took it, you took it a
step further and you started looking into it, and so
I cut you off right around. You were talking about
the blue Bloods basically still being in charge today or
that's a theory that's going.
Speaker 2: Around mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is me writing this book. I
was I was never a Bigfoot enthusiast, but I mean
I knew, you know, the thirty thousand foot view that
he was this Harry Ape man of the woods that
a lot of people and throughout different cultures and throughout time,
have bumped into and reported, and you get over into
Britain and you're up and all these other places and
that they call it the wild Man or the wood wofs.
And here in America you had those loggers that found
the big tracks and got a print of it out
in California, and the name Bigfoot was born, and the
Patterson Gibblin films and all that kind of stuff. You know,
I kind of just knew the general knowledge, but as
far as like someone that read all the literature, went
to the Bigfoot conferences and watched all the the YouTube
videos and podcasts of encounters and all that stuff that
was not me, but I had friends that were, and
it actually all this, this whole journey started with like
a catty little joke out of nowhere. Just we were
talking about, you know, Bigfoot with Trey Smith from God
in the Nutshell. We had him on the show and
he said, yeah, you guys are from East Tennessee, that's
Bigfoot country. Maybe I should come down there and we
go bigfoot hunting and record it. One day, I was like, yeah, man,
come on down, and just like out of nowhere, Genesis
twenty five twenty five popped into my head and I
was like, dude, Esau sounds just like a sasquatch, you know.
For those not familiar that verse, it says the first
one came out red, covered in hair from head to toe,
like a hairy cloak. And so I said the tray,
I was like, well, what about Esau? You think Esau
could have been the first bigfoot seed or the first
bigfoot documented that. He kind of laughed and he's like,
I you might be onto something. He was definitely a
hairy dude. And it kind of just branched off from
there and where I have a podcast, I started a
second one called The Prometheus Lens, and that's the same thing,
but I just I dive into ancient lost civilizations and
history and the Bible and all that kind of stuff,
just like with a with a Christian supernatural Christian worldview.
And I had Gary Wayne on to talk about the
epic of Gilgamesh like the next week, and so I
was reading through that study and that, and then I
bump into this guy called inky Do once again another
with our modern vernacular bigfoot. He's covered hair from head
to toe, bumps into Gilgamesh. They had this epic battle,
and I'm like, dude, this sounds a lot like this
guy Esau, And just the little breadcrumb trails just kept
leading me. And then I was studying for another show
and I was actually reading into the Book of Jasher,
and this is another one of those extra biblical books,
and in there it says that Esau was out into
the field and that Nimrod was searching for him, and
it said that Nimrod had built up resentment and jealousy
and hatred for Esau all of his days, and both
of their you know, their claims to fame was that
they were the mighty hunters, right, and so it was
like they were trying to show who the real mighty
man was, and Nimrod wanted to take him out. So
and the way it words it is like he's kind
of like Gaston, you know, and the Beauty and the Beast. Yes,
his hunters trying to take out this epic bigfoot creature.
Speaker 2: And they threw that in there on purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they might have had. And then it
says that Esau sees them and it's him and two
other gibble reem you know, and that means mighty, and
that's the same word in the Hebrew texts used to
describe the Nephelum giants, And so it says that he
hides himself and they're looking for him, trying to hunt him,
and it says that Esau springs out and cuts off
Neimrod's head with a sword and then fights the other
two gibble reim to the death and kills them all.
But then it throws in it says that he takes
the time to steal Nimrod's garments and then it says,
these are the garments that made Nimrod a mighty man,
and how and through these garments is how he ruled
over all the nations. And then when I kept reading,
it says that then that's when he comes home and
you have the trading of the birthright that's in the
Book of Genesis. And that was another just wow moment
because when you read that, that was another one of
those stories in the Bible that just never made any
sense to me because a.
Speaker 3: Moment as you're talking about this, because I haven't I
haven't looked at it through this Prometheus lens. I haven't
looked at it through I haven't connected these dots. Has
anybody written anything or made videos about this yet? Or
are you like the pioneer of putting two and two
together here?
Speaker 4: Yep, as far as I know, nobody has connected all
these dots. I'm the first one to talk about it
and put it together in a book and talking about
it on podcasts and stuff.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm crazy, blown away right now, bro, So
please do.
Speaker 4: This whole story is just wild because like when you
read in Genesis, you know, like we talked about, you
just get little blurbs and you're missing so much context. Well,
in Genesis, it just says that one day Esau comes
in from the field, and it says he comes in
from the field exhausted and that his brother Jacob is
cooking red lentonel stew and he asks for some of
the stew, and that Jacob just says, yeah, I'll give
you some stew, but trade me your birthright. And Esau
has said that he was just like, yeah, sure, what
use is a birthright to me when I'm dead? Take it?
And then Jacob shows like some urgency in Jacob's voice,
He's like, no, do it now. Swear to me now
that you will do this thing. And he says, yes,
take it. You know, what use is this birthright to
me when I'm dead? I'm starving, you know, do the deal.
And to me, when I read that, I was like,
that makes absolutely no sense, because with the modern context,
it's like your father is Donald Trump and you are
the eldest son. You are set to inherit the business,
the millions of dollars and the keys to the kingdom,
and you come home after trading stocks all day or
dealing in real estate, working with your dad, and you
see your brother eating a bag of Dorito's and you're like, hey, man,
i'm starving, give me some of those Doritos. And he's like, yeah, sure,
just sign over the company.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would laugh him out of the room.
Speaker 3: So why was he saying it's no use to me
when I'm dead?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 3: Was he already in the sense like maybe he was
just dead in his own mind? Like you know how
people are just walk around and they're dead inside and
they just feel dead to the world.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's maybe what he meant?
Speaker 3: Or as also, shit gets translated through different languages as well.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and you know, like in church, they just
made it out to like Esau was just this really
carnal man that he just thought about the now and
the pleasures of the flesh.
Speaker 2: Okay, that would make.
Speaker 4: And he let his gut lead him that he was
just hungry and he didn't care about the birth ride.
He just wanted to eat now and that's all he
was worried about.
Speaker 3: Right, I'll give up millions of dollars because I don't
give a fuck how hungry you are. You know that
you're going to get some food eventually. In the morning
or some shit, Right, It's not like he was on
his deathbed and needed like a drop of.
Speaker 2: Water and a breadcrumb in order to survive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the thing was as he was, And that's
why it makes a lot more sense because when you
read the Book of Jasher, he was out in the
field and Nimrod and those other two giants were hunting
him down and he fights these guys to the death
and he comes home with these garments that he stole
from Nimrod, and it says in the Book of Jasher
that he hid the garments in his house and then
went to Jacob's tent, and then that's where Genesis picks up. So, yeah,
he was exhausted from the field because he just fought
not one, not two, but three giants and killed the king,
probably sustained some life threatening injuries, was on the run
from killing the king, and was desperate. So basically he
was you know, it's kind of like allegorically for the food.
It was like, give me substance, yes, sew up my
wounds and hide me. And he's like, yeah, I'll trade
me the birthright because he knew how desperate he was,
and he's like, what use is a birth right to me?
When I'm dead? Take it. I'm bleeding out. You know,
the King's men are looking for me.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 3: I totally misunderstood that. Okay, now, thank you for explaining
that to my brain. Yeah, I'm gonna die. So what
the fuck is a birthrate?
Speaker 5: Gotcha?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And so I was like, dude, I need to
go through all these other extra texts and just see
what else is missing, because that was missing from Genesis,
and that tidy and perfectly and answered all the ambiguous
questions associated with that story. So I was like, so
what else am I going to find? I have to
you know, my obsessive compulsive I was like, I have
to know the rest of the story. And so as
I got to looking and I come to that part,
I was like, what's so special about these garments?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And when you keep yeah, when you keep reading, it
says that this was the birthright, This was part of
the birthright, and it was passed down the lineage to
the eldest son. And it shows that that these were
the garments given to Adam and Eve in the garden.
If you remember at the fall when they discover their
naked they first it says they sew fig leagues together
to hide their nakedness or cover their nakedness. But it
says then God gives them a garment to cover their
nakedness before he, you know, kicks them out of the garden. Well,
according to the Book of Jeshure, that garment he stole
from Themrod were the supernatural garments from the garden of God. Wow,
it was, and it was a supernatural relic that was
passed down to the lineages. And it follows it, you know,
it goes to Adam, to to Seth, and on down
the line to Noah, to or to Methuselah, and then
to Noah. And then it says that Noah had the
garments on the boat and carried it through the flood.
And it says that in Ham's going out, Ham stole
the garments and then give them to Cush. And it
says that Cush hid them. And it was Nimrod was
the son of his old age and whom he loved exceedingly.
And it said at the coming of age, when Nimrod
turned twenty years old, Cush give Nimrod the garments. And
it says that once he put on these garments, he
became a gibble ring a mighty man. And that's another
tie in that answers for genesis, because a lot of
people speculate because it doesn't say Nimrod was born a
gibble ring. It says that he became a gibb or rim.
And so this book of Jasher tells you that through
these supernatural garments, when he turned twenty years old and
put them on, that is how he became a gibblerim.
And the Ancient Legends and Lore of the Jews. Lewis
Ginsburg has a nine volume set called the Legends of
the Jews, and he just went through and collected all
of their ancient myths and lore and legends and compiled
them all, and in there it talks about those garments,
and it says that these were supernaturally charged and that
whoever wore them, all the beasts and birds and animals
of the field would bow to the wire of these garments.
And it bestowed power and authority to rule over all
of the nations. It was a symbol of kingship and priesthood.
It showed that you were the head, and all the
minion of earth was given unto the wearer.
Speaker 2: Was he wearing these during the battle.
Speaker 4: And that's what when he killed Nimrod, that's that's the
garments that Esau stole.
Speaker 1: Right right.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, was Nimrod wearing them or did he
kill him and then go grab them from like wherever
he was holding them type of a thing, like was
he able to defeat this guy like while he was
wearing basically the powers of God.
Speaker 4: It just says that he removed the garments from him,
So either he was sorry or maybe you know, had
them in a paluch or something with him, But it
just says that he removed them from Nimrod.
Speaker 3: Is there anything in there that would would make you
think that he himself was given some sort of a
power in order to defeat Nimrod?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because think about it. I mean, if you know,
and a lot of people, but it's not familiar.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It says that at his birth that he was born
covered in hair. He was born red, covered in hair
from head to toe, like a hairy cloak. And so
I mean he's like a sasquatch. So imagine an eight
foot you know, possibly tall, red haired sasquatch and the
strength that they're reported to have and he's willeding a
sword and has a bow and has intelligence of a hunter.
This dude would be, you know, a bad mamajama because
he killed you know, three giants. And when you go
on through there, it talks about his birth and his conception.
It says that when Rebecca was pregnant, that the Angel
of the Lord come to her and said, two people's,
two nations are in your womb, and they struggle together
within the womb. It said one shall be stronger than
the other, but the younger shall rule over the older.
And so that was completely opposite. You know, the eldest
is the one that ruled. So Esau was the one
they were talking about that was going to be the
eldest and be stronger than his brother. And the birth,
I believe I talked about it in the book is
pointing back to Genesis three point fifteen in this seed
war that La Marzouli always talks about, because it says
that at their birth, not only did he come out
first and was red covered and Harem had the toe,
it says that his brother Jacob was clinging to the
hill of Esau. And when and when you go to
Genesis in the cursing of the garden. Before they're kicked out,
God tells the woman that he is going to put
enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed
of the serpent. So it says, plainly, the serpent's going
to have a seed, and they're going to be at
enmity with one another. They're going to ward against each other.
And then it says in that prophecy some people call
it the dragon slayer prophecy, but it says that the
woman's seed will bruise the head of the serpent seed,
but the serpent seed will bruise the heel. So and
I postulate in the book that Esau was of serpent seed.
And it's almost like Satan because he's a perverter. He
twists things upside down. So I postulate the question in
the book. I said, if Esau was of a serpent seed,
Satan would be worried to death about this prophecy that
was given. So would he not reach into that womb
and turn them around to where his seed came out first,
and his seed's foot would be pushing literally bruising the
head of the chosen seed Jacob, and Jacob would be
holding the heel and bruising the heel, and that's why
the Angel of the Lord had to come to her
and warn her. You know that the younger shall rule
over the older.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm blown away right now.
Speaker 5: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: So do you give so do you give credit to
the theory that people have put out there that the
forbidden fruit was actually Satan putting his seat inside of Eve?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: And then she showed Adam when he came back, and
so she had twins, one of Adam and one of Satan.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir. And it's not till the last year that
I have come to this and I tell people I
was guilty of something that I chastised people for. You know,
even on my show, I talk about you know, hey,
don't take my word for it. Listen to what I
got to say, but then go search yourself and see
if I miss something or if I got it wrong.
Don't rely on other people's interpretations on stuff, because we
can get stuff wrong, and you might have a different
viewpoint of perspective or revelation that I don't. And like
doctor Michael Hies and some of these guys that I
looked up to and highly respected, they laughed at this
serpency doctrine in theory and said it was bunk and
it wouldn't worth looking into. So I never did. I
just I took their word for it. Oh and I
actually had a conversation with a woman. Her name was
doctor Joey Pugh, and she came on the show and
she started talking about the serpent seed. And I'm not
gonna lie. At first, I was like, oh God, here
we go. You know we're going to go down a
wacky road here, man. But I kept my mind open.
I left my preconceived notions and dogma and teachings and
doctrine at the door and sat there with a blank slate,
opened mind, and heard her out. Give her an honest listen.
And she completely blew my mind and changed my mind.
And she says in there, she said, number one, they
partake of this tree. And she said, and growing up,
I was always told about this apple, she said. Once
I got to reading the story for myself, she said,
there is no apple. She said, I said to myself,
where's the apple? And she said in church, you know,
proper society, they don't want to talk about sex, so
they algorize stuff. And she said, and you have a serpent,
which in Hebrew that is the word nakash, And the
Hebrew language is just like English, one word can have
multiple meanings. Yeah, that word can mean nakash, but it
can also mean the shining one or the one who
practices divin nation. So with the context of that passage,
you know what makes more sense. A talking snake deceived
Adam and Eve and caused the fall of humanity, or
a divine being on God's holy mountain rebelled against God
and caused the fall of humanity. To me, that the
latter makes a lot more sense, of course, But with
the serpent imagery, you know, serpents can be phallic imagery.
Trees can be phallic imagery. And it says that they
partake of this tree, and then what happens They immediately
cover their private parts, their sexual organs.
Speaker 3: And why as if you got walked in on, you know,
like if you were like the teenagers having sex and
the parents came in and you were like, oh, fuck
your dad, you know, like cover yourself up type of
a thing, Like why would they cover themselves up if
they were eating an apple?
Speaker 4: Exactly? And she used the illustration. She said, my mother
was very strict. She said, we wasn't allowed to have
sweets before dinner. And she said, we kept a cookie
jar by the refrigerator. And she said, we were all
in the kitchen. Mother was cooking and she had to
leave the kitchen and go into the living room for something,
and me and my sister thought that we could sneak
up there and steal a cookie and eat it before
she came back in. And she said, long story short,
we got caught. And she said when she walked in,
she said, you know what was the first thing that
we did. She said, we covered our mouth. She said,
because that's where the sin was, that's where the transgression was.
That's what we wanted to hide. That was what we
were ashamed of. Yep, she said, so once they particular
this tree, they all of a sudden cover their private parts,
their sexual organs. And then she said, this was old Testament,
the Mosaic law. She said, it was eye for an eye,
tooth for a tooth. And she said all of the
cursings in the Bible run directly parallel with the sin,
and usually you get the opposite of what you're trying
to achieve. She said, So what she said, let's look
at the cursings. She said. Number one, Eve was cursed
with the painful minstrual cycles and bleeding. She was cursed
with painful childbirth and child bearing and carrying the burden
and the pains of this child. She said, Then her
seed is cursed, she said, did not only that the
serpent's seed is cursed. She said, every single action, every
single cursing, all has to do with sex. And I was, like,
I said, going into this conversation, I was like, now,
this stuff's laughable, you.
Speaker 3: Know, right, But this is crazy to me because in
my head, like the ultimate sin would be like murder, rape,
and pedophilia. Like sex doesn't even come into it because
we've made it so easily accessible and we live in
this hookup culture to where you don't even think about it,
you know.
Speaker 2: It's like having.
Speaker 3: Multi partners before you get married is normal, and what's
not normal is saving yourself before marriage nowadays. So it's
just it's crazy to me that that is the biggest
sin and the original sin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when you go like into the etymology
of the names, you know, when your mother became pregnant
with you, she was extremely excited, and all mothers picking
the name is important. You know, they probably have twenty
to thirty different names that they're debating on and weeding out,
talking it over with their husband to figure out the
name is important. It's not something that it's like, I
will just call him this, No, I mean it involves
a lot of thought and time. Well, Caine's name means acquired.
What loving mother names their child acquired?
Speaker 2: Wow, that's fucked up, you know, fastard child.
Speaker 4: Yess exactly that, that's the point. And then Abel. Abel's
name means breath. And why is that? Because if you
remember when God created Adam, he was a lifeless body
until God breathed the breath of life into him. So
Abel was named after his father because he was in
the image of his father. Cain was not. And the
people that want to throw away the serpent seed theory,
you know, the people that hold to the serpent seed theory,
they have, you know, all these receipts, all of these
good theological points and passages, and I mean I've just
kind of skimmed the surface here. I mean, there's so
much more right and all the people that want to
throw it away, all they have brother is one verse.
The entire Biblical text of all the extra biblical texts,
the Rabbinic legends and lores everything they have one verse,
and that verse says after they were kicked out, It
says that Adam knew his wife and she bore came
and then again bore Abel. So they say, what serpent
seed is dead? It says right there that Adam knew
his wife and she bore came. Case closed, And I'm like, no,
if the serpent laid with her and done germinated a seed.
And then afterwards Adam knew his wife, he just germinated
another seed and they birth twins. And then that same
like the next verse, it says that when Cain was born,
she makes this proclamation and she says, I have acquired
this man through the help of the Lord. And then
when Abel is born, he doesn't get no special proclamation.
It just says, and out came Abel. And when I
was reading that, the Lord is the divine name, you
know the tetragrammaton the old hay vov hay. That name
wasn't given until Exodus. It was given to Moses first,
and Moses is said to have written Genesis. But one
thing that puzzled me was reading through Genesis. Up until
this point, every single time that God is referred to,
they don't use the divine name. They say Elohim. And
God created the heavens in the earth. The Elohim created
the heavens in the earth. And that word can be
plural or singular, So the context of how it's used
is important. But in the plural sense, it's talking about
the divine Council, and so it can talk about, you know,
a group of supernatural entities. Satan is a Lohem. He's
not the Loheim. He is a Lohem. The archangel, Michael, Gabriel,
all these characters you hear about are all Loheim, not
the Lohem. Though, So I'm like, if Moses wrote this
entire book, why would he use Elohem and then all
of a sudden change it to the divine name. So
to me, I was like, if I'm writing a book
and talking about somebody and I refer to them in
this certain time, I'm going to use that term throughout
the Bible or the whole book. I'm not just going
to suddenly change what I'm calling this person. So to me,
I was like, this signals to me that Moses wasn't
the only writer and when we see the name change,
that shows where Moses picked up because Moses was the
only one at that time that knew the divine name.
So when I got to research and I found you know,
hundreds of years ago scholars had noticed this and studied
it and searched it out, and they come to the
conclusion that Moses was going off of two to three
different source texts, that the Creation had already been written down.
And where we see this divine name is where Moses
picks up and takes off. So like out of respect
he left you know, the original writings of Creation was
all using the term Elohem, so out of respect he
kept it the same. But where he picked up, that's
where you see this divine name inserted. So I postulate
the question in the book, I'm like eloheim was used
of God and other gods angelic beings until this point,
and all of a sudden it changed. Could it be
that the original writings said I have acquired came through
the help of the eloheim originally? And what Lohem the nakash?
Speaker 3: Who who would Moses have picked up the writings from? Though?
Speaker 2: Would it have been Adam?
Speaker 4: Who knows? Honestly, that's just one of those things. It's
just the scholars come up with, Like I said, I mean,
they've not discovered these source texts.
Speaker 3: Right, it would make sense the way that you broke
it down, like you're not going to be telling the
story of a person and changed the name halfway.
Speaker 4: Through exactly, And that's what they come to. The is
like either there was another written account of the creation
that he was going off of, or it was a
well established like oral tradition and story that was verbally told,
you know, in the context of elohem for God's name,
and he just kept it the same, like out of
you know, respect for the story. So but it was
just cool just going through this and studying this. Yeah,
and then when I started looking some of the legends
and lore, like when you go to Ezekiel twenty eight,
that's a verse that where they're giving a condemnation to
the King of Tire, but halfway through the wording changes
and it's no longer talking to this king. It's clearly
talking to a divine being. And in there it says
you were in the garden of Eden, you were made
perfect in all of your ways, and it says every
precious stone was your covering tard a topaz barrel onyx
Jasper and it names all these stones, and in the
Masoretic text it lists nine, but when you go to
the septuagen they list twelve. And it says, you know
that these garments were beautiful and had gold inlays and
all these you know, shiny pretty things all over it.
And it says that you profaned your sanctuaries and you
were cast from the mountain of God as a profane thing,
you know. And the scholarship is unanimous that this is
talking about Satan. And when I read that, I was like,
this sounds like the priestly ephod because they wore this
epod with this breastplate that had twelve stones, and those
stones are multicolored, and it's got all these little gold
inlays and pens and tassels. It's really ornate. And then
it goes on to say that he profaned his sanctuaries.
I was like, it's paint and Satan in a priestly role.
He's wearing the priestly garments. It says that he has
a sanctuary and that he defiled it and then was
cast out of of the mountain of God. And so
then I was like, what if at the Serpent's fall
that before he was the king and priest of creation
and had a sanctuary and this priestly ephod and that
the skins are the you know, the English translation to skins.
But the coverings given to Adam and Eve when they
left the garden was the coverings of the Nakash, the
priestly Ephod. And when I got to look in through
like the Rabbinic traditions, they all say that Adam was
the first king and priest of earth, and all rabbis
trace their beginnings and lineages to Adam, saying that he
was the first king and priests. So he had these garments.
So it's you know, not out of the question to
say that at the Nakash the serpent's fall, his position
was taken away from him, his garments taken and given
to humanity. And this was symbolically God giving the dominion
of earth to mankind. And that's what these garments are.
Speaker 3: Bron and that's why that's why demons and they hate us.
They hate us because we've taken what was promised to
them in the beginning.
Speaker 5: And and yeah.
Speaker 4: And it makes perfect sense because this this was a
status since was something that the Nakash war with pride,
and he tried to trick a being that was less
than him, lower than him, and it ended up in
his downfall, and his position was taken away and given
to the ones he tried to trick and destroy. That
alone would make Satan hate.
Speaker 2: You, oh definitely.
Speaker 3: And and not only that, like why why would he
want to corrupt so many people too, not only to
hurt to hurt God, but also you know, just out
of spite, like that one motherfucker, that one asshole got
away from me, I'm going to take it out on everybody.
Speaker 2: But you know, and I've.
Speaker 3: I've thought about this a lot too, because I have
held on to the idea that there was twins and
one came from one came from Satan, and one came
from Adam.
Speaker 2: And you know, that just makes me wonder.
Speaker 3: How these obviously elite it's they're they're very, very in
tuned with bloodlines, and they pay attention to that ship
and they want to keep them as pure as possible.
But you know, us much down here walking around in
normal world, we probably are muddled with both mm hmm yep,
and so and so that that also makes me wonder
is there anybody that is pure? You know, it says
that we all have sin in us and the only
perfect man was Jesus, And that would make a lot
of sense because we all come from a half evil seed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that and I also answers the question of
why was it so important for the biblical riders to
keep up with these genealogies. This one begot this one,
this one begot that one. And Cain was removed from
that lineage. You see a branching off in two trees
or two branches of the same tree, and they traced
them and tracked them because if there was not a
serpent seed line, if there is not a seed war,
what is the point and purpose of keeping up with
all of that? And God protected that line and kept
it pure for the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ. And people
talk about like Enoch. You know, Enoch was the seventh
from Adam. Technically he wasn't. The only reason he is
is because Cain was moved out of that line. And
when you have Jesus talking to the Pharisees at one point,
and some of the people that want to, you know,
laugh at the serpent seed theory use this too, And
they say, when Jesus was talking to the Pharisees, he says,
you know you are a pit of vipers. He said,
you are of your father, the devil, who was a
murderer from the beginning. He's talking about Cain Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And so they say, oh, well, a satan just going
around screwing everybody, and all those people were literal certain
serpent seeds. I wont know that was a theological argument,
saying they were spiritually doing the will of the nakash.
But if you keep reading that context. A lot of
people like to cherry pick little things, but it's like
if you read the full thing and get the full
picture in context, the very next line is telling because
the Pharisees respond with, we wasn't born of fornication. We
have but one father. Yahweh. They're talking about Cain, who
was born in fornication and had multiple fathers. We were
not born at fornication. We have but one father, yahwah.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: Why would somebody two day that knows the Bible and
other texts insite and out not be able to say yahweh,
Like if I was having this conversation with somebody and
they kept saying uh, begins with a why and ends
with an H instead of saying the name. Why in
the fuck would that be. I'm just curious because I
had a guest on that was doing that, and somebody
was like, yo, man, they're probably a demon and they
can't physically say it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but I do know like far As,
like the Jewish thought, uh, they held the name in
such high reverence. They thought that, you know, their lips
were not even clean enough to utter the name, and
so they wouldn't say it. It was sacred. And that's
why in your Bible, if you look, every time you
have the Lord in all caps, they have inserted that
because in the original text is the tetrig grind Amaton
the yotey bob Hay, but they say out of reverence
and respect, they substituted it with the Lord instead. It
might be one of those things because there's some people
that are like uber strict on the Torah laws and
follow the Torah and the ways of the Jews. So
maybe some people kind of take that standpoint that they
think it's just so sacred that they can't say it.
Speaker 3: Uh. His standpoint is that Jesus was a master occultist
that performed a ritual and buried the heart of a
lion in the city streets in order to gain followers
for eternity. So I don't think it was out of respect.
Speaker 4: No, that's just a really delusional person. It sounds like.
Speaker 3: Or just readings that I'm not privy to, you know,
because he did say he started out as a well,
he started out and Catholicism and then heavy into Christianity,
which I mean we could say Catholics are Christian and
now he's where I just said he is.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and a lot of people too, they get
wrapped up and lost into the lot of the Gnostic
writings and teachings, and that's where you get a lot
of stuff that's similar to that that Christ wasn't the
son of God. He was a man just like us,
but received a christ consciousness, and that we all can
do that because God is within us, He's not some
external thing. And that Catholicism has lied to you and
tricked you and enslaved you to the system. That God
is really inside of you. And just like Buddha and
Mohammed and all these other people that achieved enlightenment and
done god like things. They found the God within themselves
and got this God consciousness. And they even talk about
they theorized that the Lost Years of Jesus, he went
to India and become an ascended Master and came back
and done all this stuff. And there's lots of a culty,
witchy New Age type stuff embedded into that. And they
call themselves Gnostics, and it's just like a to them,
it's like a just a branch off of Christianity. But
in fact, I mean, it's got a Christian coat, but
that's yet the rest of it is the complete inversion
of the Christian thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would appear that they're worshiping the demand in
a different way.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how to feel about that, because
it is fun to think about that, you know, like, oh,
we can become gods ourselves. Yeah, and there is a
passage and I'm horrible at naming exact scriptures, but and
maybe I'm wrong, but does he not say that you
who can achieve this.
Speaker 4: Well, what he says is that everybody his apostles were marveling,
you know, at the works he was doing. And yeah,
he said, marvel not. He said that when once I
leave and the Helper comes. He's talking about the Holy Spirit.
He said, you will do greater things than I. So
he you know, and then you see the apostles in
scripture casting out demons and performing miracles and doing these
things too. But that's what he said. The key point
was is once the Helper comes, you know, once the
Holy Spirit comes into your life, and and it does.
It sounds kind of similar to what the Gnostics are saying,
But I mean that that's what Satan likes to do.
In my opinion. He likes to give you nine truths
to give you that one perverted lie, because that one
is all he needs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yes, every good psiop has a bunch of truths to
make it believable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we keep going with the bloodlines, and how
do we get essentially Bigfoot?
Speaker 4: Well see, that's what I was saying, was, uh, when
Esau come out like that, that he was clearly different.
And if we let the text say what it says,
I mean, if we saw this guy out in the
woods today, we would say, hey, this is a big Foot.
And once you follow the narrative, and I go really
deep into the genealogy and the family line, because once
he trades his birth right to Jacob, it's kind of like,
you know, he had his fingers crossed behind his back.
It's like, yeah, I'll tell you what you want to hear,
but if I live through this, I'm not giving you
the birth right. And when Isaac, his father is dying,
he tells Esau, you know I'm dying. I want a
taste of your game one more time. Go out, go
on a hunt, kill me a wild beast, prepare me
a good meal like you always do, and I will
bestow the blessing upon you. And that's another thing too,
was Esau was the mighty hunter. He wouldn't have been starving.
He could easily went out and killed a lion and
had a lion's steak if he wanted it. Why would
the mighty hunter, who's an expert hunting and cooker, be
starving to death and begging for a lentinyl stew? Don't
make sense? But he leaves and goes to go on
this hunt where Rebecca is standing by the tent and
overhears the conversation, and then she tells Jacob. She says,
go out, into the field, kill a young girl and
bring it to me, and I will prepare a delicious
meal for your father. You go in and pretend to
be Esaul and still the blessing because Isaac was blind.
And Jacob his first response, he says, but mother, I'm
a smooth man. He will feel of me and see
that I am deceiving him, and he will bestow a
curse upon me instead of a blessing. And she says,
just do as I say, and if there is a cursing,
allow it to fall on my head. Just do as
I say. So Jacob goes out, he kills a goat,
brings it in. The mother prepares the meat, makes this
grand meal. And then before he goes in, it says,
she takes the goat skin and wraps it around him.
Oh shit, like a blanket. So some people want to say, oh, well,
when Esau come out and said he was covered in hair,
that was kind of hyperbole. They were just exaggerating a little,
you know, he just had a good thick beard and
some hairy arms as he got older. No, he was
literally covered in hair from head to toe like a
Harry Cloak, so much so that they had to wrap
their brother in a goat's fur to deceive their blind father.
And if you've ever, you know, been around goats, they
smell bad. They got a putrid smell. Their coats are
very thick and matted and oily and coarse, yes, very coarse.
And it says that once she does this, but then
she adds the cherry on top, it says, and a
lot of people miss it, but if you have this
perspective and this lens of this stuff we've been talking
about today, you catch it. But it says that once
she wraps him in this goats fur, then she goes
to the tint of Esau and takes his special garment,
addresses Jacob in a special garment, and then sends him
into the tent. And when he goes in, Isaac says,
I hear the voice of my younger son, Jacob, but
I feel my son Esau. And then he says, but
you smell of the field, my son. You must be Esau.
And you hear about these phantom putrid smells associated with Bigfoot, Yes,
you do, so, I picked up on that. And it
says that he eats the meal, he bestows the blessing
in the birth right on Jacob and he leaves. Shortly
after he leaves, Esau returns and says, here father arives
and eat the meat of my game. And he says,
I've already ate of your your game and gave you
your blessing. He said, no, you didn't, father, and then
they realized the fix was in, and it says that
Esau become angry, so angry that he started to cry
and asked his father, well, do you have another blessing
for me?
Speaker 3: Father?
Speaker 4: I'm the eldest. Do I get nothing? And Jacob the
supplanter gets away with everything and he was like, what's
done is done, my son, I've already given the blessing
and basically, sorry, your shit out of luck, and it
says that he becomes so angry he vows to kill
his brother, and Rebecca overhears and warns Jacob tells him
to leave, to go to Haran, the land of her Kinsman,
and hide there until his brother's anger subsides. And what's
really interesting is like when I got into like I
was talking about Ginsburg and his legends of the Jews,
it says that when this happens that he saw becomes
angry and threatens to kill Jacob, but he says, I
will not kill him with sword nor bow. He said,
I will bite his neck and drain him of his blood.
I will suck his blood dry, and I will bite
his neck until he is dead. Interesting, very savage and
very vamporistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vampirist.
Speaker 4: And then this is when Esau goes into absolute full rebellion.
He takes three wives. Two of them are Canaanites, which
they were sworn not to do. They were a cursed lineage.
And when thanks to people like Gary Wayne, who has
really deep dyed of these genealogies, I found out that
the brides that he took were from known giant clans.
So he married into giant clans, possibly marrying giant giantesses
right and bred with them.
Speaker 2: And he was already big himself.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, he was already huge and harry and then
married into these Nephelin giant clans and started breeding with them.
And then his third wife he went to Ishmael. And
Ishmael was his father, Isaac's older brother, and just like Esau,
Ishmael was the eldest born son and was screwed out
of his birthright and kicked out of the family. So Abraham,
Isaac's father and mother, Sarah, were barren. They couldn't conceive,
so Sarah, out of fear, gives him her handmaiden, Hagar.
And when you read through Genesis, you find out that
is like a peace treaty or an alliance. The Pharaoh
of Egypt gave them his daughter Hagar as a servant,
so she was an Egyptian princess. Oh she had the
royal blood, and Abraham slept with her and conceived Isaac.
I'm sorry, not isa but Ishmael. And then later God
blesses Sarah's womb and she conceives Isaac, and Sarah becomes
jealous over Hagar, and knowing that Ishmael was the eldest
son and would receive the blessings in the birthright, and
tells Abraham they got to go. My son is the
chosen seed. He's going to get the blessing in the birthright,
and Ishmael and Hagar have to go. So they kick
them out of the family, expel them. So when Esau
gets screwed over by his birthright and younger brother, he
goes to somebody that's going to sympathize with him. And
you can imagine the hatred that was brood from that union,
oh for sure. And the genealogies when you trace those
from the union of Esau, which was the Edomites, which
were the enemies to God's people, first ones to attack
them when they come out of Egypt. And said that
the Edomites stood by and let the Babylonians enter Jerusalem
and burn it to the ground. And it said that
the Edamites stood and watched and clapped and applauded as
the Jews were chained and dragged into captivity into Babylon.
And so you had those peoples, and then you had
the Ishmaelites. So when they bred together, they formed all
of the Muslim nations and people groups that utterly hate
God's chosen people and want them exterminated and wiped off
the face of the earth. This is the seed War,
and you see it playing out today in the news.
This whole Israel. Constantly, it wore two people groups laying
claimed this one piece of land, neither one of them
wanting to give. That's because this other people group is
from the line of Esau and they feel they were
screwed out of their birthright and they want it back.
Speaker 3: So what do you think about Trump coming in and
taking their ball away so they can't play anymore.
Speaker 4: And you might have give me some more context on that.
Speaker 3: Oh, so he Trump said that we're taking over the
Gaza strip and claiming it as American territory so that
they'll stop fighting over it, and he's you didn't hear
about this?
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: See, honestly, I used to be like religiously involved with
the news, and once you had the last election, screwed job,
I believe that the presidency was totally ripped away from
Donald Trump and it was a total steal. Yeah. I
was so mad, I couldn't even see straight. And I
was like, you know what, I know how this movie ends.
The woman's tied on the train tracks and the trains
come and she's going to get splattered, and I don't
need to play by play. So I turned off the news,
quit watching it. And where I've not been watching the
news or keeping up with it for like the past
four years, it's kind of hard for me to get
back in the habit of watching it again. So the
only kind of news I get anymore is just maybe
instagram'scrolling or Facebook's rolling and come across something I'm kind
of in the dark.
Speaker 3: Well good, you should never nobody should ever watch the news.
It's propaganda from the gate, you know. Ever since Obama
had his way with the Smith Muns Act, they've been
able to legally feed us propaganda down our fucking throats.
So yeah, nobody should ever watch the news. But yeah,
so I keep up on all that shit because kind
of have to with my show and other shows that
I do with other people. And yeah, so Trump said,
you guys can't play with this ball anymore. I'm taking it.
And so he said that he's going to take over.
We're taking over the guy's strip and he is going
to rebuild it and give it back to the people.
We'll see what happens there. But yeah, very very interesting
things happening.
Speaker 2: And I have a.
Speaker 3: Feeling that these people that are playing playing the strings
and pulling the puppet strings behind the scenes are pushing
us towards a fabricated arm and geddon I think that
they want it to happen so bad that the one
that we're going to get is fabricated. I just that's
my opinion on it, And it could be so bad
that it brings in the real one. But aren't we
supposed to be under slave control for like a thousand years,
like under a one world government.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, I could accord to the Book of Revelation,
you know, you have the well they call it Satan's
little season. And that's one thing that I love reading
the Bible and know quite a bit, you know, about stuff,
and like researching it. But most of mine's kind of
been like stuck in the Old Testament and the ancient
history stuff. I used to really be into revelation, but
as I got older, I just started becoming fascinated with
history and stuff. So like my how you call it
my timeline and remembrance of all the stuff and revelations
kind of hazy, but I think that's I think Christ
is supposed to come back and reign, and then Satan
has his thousand year reign and then Christ comes back
and wipes them out and destroys them. Because I know
some people talk about they think that we are in
Satan's little season now, and I'm like, yeah, well we've
I don't see Christ sitting on the throne and ruling
and Heaven being on earth yet, so I'm still waiting
for that part.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I'm curious what what became of
this bloodline. Obviously we're we're kind of saying that they
were the first big Foot sightings, and then now we
have if we're able to tie these in together, we
kind of have the lineage.
Speaker 2: We can go back and we have the.
Speaker 3: History of how it started. But now we have you know,
we have Yetty's, we have the Sasquatches here. I don't
know if dog Man plays into any of this at all.
So how did do you do? You have a timeline
of how they started branching off and just kind of
being all all over the flat plane that we live on.
Speaker 4: No, I just kind of laid out that that general
history and how it started, But then I do talk
about how, uh we see remnants of it, because like
in Europe you have the wood wofs, the wild man
and all these stories and feral people, you know, and
that's how you kind of get to there. And of course,
like with any race or any animal, you have types
and you have kinds. So you know, like you were saying,
the Yetty and all these other different kind of variants,
but it's still the It's just a branch off of
this same kind, right, And then you go to like Sardinia,
you have the mathones and during the winter solstice, if
you like, look that up. It's wild they and you've
probably seen videos of it. But like these people during
the winter solstice cover themselves in black goats, fur and
wear these hand carved wooden masks and strap all kinds
of various sized bells on their back. And they ants
through the street and they ring these bells, and then
there's these guys dressed in red that come behind them
with whips and chase them off, and they whip the
women and grabbed the women and seize the women. And
I was like, dude, this is like, yeah, he saw
Neffolom giants and the how the fallen angels seized the
women and had their way with them. And the people
of that country they say that they don't even remember
where this comes from. No way, really that stems back
all the way to like archaic times. So they just
kept the tradition alive. And during this time too, the
children that are coming of age, it's like a you know,
a birth ride or a coming of age kind of
like a bamtzphah or whatever with the Jewish people or
the sweet sixteen that we have today. They have this
ceremony where they light this huge bonfire and the kids,
to prove their bravery, have to pass through the fire.
And I think it's more symbolism of the Canaanites, these
Nephelim giants sacrificing their children through Timolek and passing their
children through the fire, and these harry quote unquote men
dancing through the streets. And then they have what they
call the tombs of the giants and they bury these giants,
and then they constructed this temple complex or tomb complex
around them. And from an aerial view, it's a bull
with horns. In the Bible, you talk about the bulls
of Bashan, you know. And these kids to prove their
bravery once again they pass through the fire. But then
they have to go into this bullhead tomb and spend
the night. And it's not only to prove their bravery,
but to ask the dead ancestors, the spirit of the giants,
the mighty warriors, to embody them. And so it even
goes back to the vikings when you look at the berserkers.
The berserkers were known just to be wild men, crazy,
being possessed men that they would just wildly charge into battle,
get stabbed many times, get their arms and limbs cut off,
and still just mindlessly charge, you know, and attack. It's
because they would do these necromantic ancestor worship rituals and
sacrifice humans and drink the blood, and they would ask
the dead warrior spirits of their ancestors to embody them.
And that's how they become so wild and crazy and
with superhuman strength abilities.
Speaker 2: Uh, Hollywood does that ship now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But unbeknownst to them, they are inviting the spirits
of these Nephelim giants.
Speaker 2: Oh they know it.
Speaker 3: I mean you hear Beyonce talk about how she gets
overtaken before she goes on stage and ship, and they
even have names for them. A lot of them have
the same fucking name. It's a It's it's a playoff
of Rainman or Raymond or Raymond for some reason.
Speaker 2: It's Eminem.
Speaker 3: Oh and Roman. Uh what's her name? Nicki Minaj talks
about how how she has some the thing that comes
inside of hers name is Roman. And so they fucking
do this ship still to this day.
Speaker 4: And you find remnants of it in the Bible. That's
calling back to these Canaanote people and stuff. Because while
Esau intermarried into these giant clans, it says in there
that through his lineage is birth this guy named Amelek,
and Amelek was known. He was famous as this fearless
Nephelum giant warrior king. He was on the status of
og And when you research, you find that he burst
an entire clan called the Amalekites after his name, and
in Hebrew that name means the blood liquors. Oh shit,
And it goes back to Esau talking about biting the
neck of his brother and draining his blood until he's dead.
And this was the group, the Amalekites. They were the
first ones to attack God's people when they come out
of the land of Egypt and was in their wilderness wanderings,
and it says they picked them off like ghosts. It
was like the first type of guerrilla warfare. As the
Jewish people were going through and marching through the wilderness,
they said, these Amalekites would pick off the people in
the back. They would take out the young and the
old and pick them off. They said like ghosts that
just all of a sudden, people just start disappearing they couldn't
find them, no trace of them, didn't see them coming
or going. And then finally after they picked up part
at him for so long that they finally challenged them
and went head to head in battle with them. And
that's the famous story that you hear about Moses having
to raise his staff into the air, and only through
supernatural power were they able to defeat this clan of giants.
And it says that when his arms would grow tired
and he would drop his staff, that the Amalekites would
start winning again. And when you start looking through the
legends of the Jews and some of these mid rashes
and targems and stuff of the Jews, you find that
the Amalekites were sorcerers. And it says that's why God
told them when they went into the Holy Land to
kill every man, woman and child an animal, not to
even spare the animals, because they were known sorcerers and
shape shifters, and that they would shape shift into animals
to avoid capture or death. And when you get into
the wilderness wanderings, you get all these instructions God tells
his people do not seek sorcerers or necromancers, do not
drink the blood, do not pass your children through the fire,
And it warns, no longer will you sacrifice to harry
goat demons who are not God's and that it talks
about desolate towns and cities in Isaiah and says there
the wild men dance. So you go back to the
mathones covered in hair dancing through the streets. And I
think that God's people, while in their wilderness wanderings, were
having encounters with these Amalekots who were sorcerers, who were
drinking blood, doing human sacrifice, passing their children through the
fires of molech, practicing necromancy and sorcery, and they were
imitating them, and they were sacrificing to these hairy goat demons.
And remember, if you got this hairy quote unquote man
sasquatch Esau breeding with giants, you have a high likelihood
of throwing some strange pups. And that is why during
this battle Moses had to raise that staff, because it
was more than just a battle. Moses, in my opinion,
was doing sorcery type warfare against the high priest of
the Amalekites, and only through the supernatural aid of God
were they able even to beat the Amalekites. So when
you get into modern day, you know, you get all
this wu you get you know, the mind speak and
sometimes orbs spottings and things like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I postulate that according to the Book of Enoch, it
says that these Nephilim were hybrids. They were neither from
Heaven nor Earth. So when they died, their bodies remained
to torment mankind and they were called demons. So I
just kind of postulate. I'm like, you know, could these
orbs and craft be the conveyance of these fallen angels?
I believe, so, you know, the crafts they're checking on
their offspring. You know what I mean? Because if you
were a Nephilum and you died, your spirit remained here
on Earth, and you chose to manifest and torment mankind,
would you not want to pick a familiar form?
Speaker 2: Brother, you came, you crush.
Speaker 3: Can you tell everybody where they can go find your
show and your book?
Speaker 4: Oh you man, Thank you man. I appreciate you give
me the time to speak to your listeners and have
some conversations.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I love the exchanging of ideas in these conversations.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would love to have you back.
Speaker 3: On again too, and you know, go over some of
this stuff because you blew my mind. You know, I
am such a busy person that I don't get to
dig into a lot of the things that I like
to talk about. So when I have people on to
come on and they've already done the digging, it's it's
takes a lot of work away from me.
Speaker 2: But it's fucking fun.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of these stories that are in the Bible,
if we would piece them together in the correct way
and give them teachings, I think that a lot more
people would be interested because our history is so much
better than the things that we're watching on Netflix.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I agree. But yeah, man, if you
enjoyed the conversation. Each week I do a show. I
release it Monday at eight pm. The show is called
Prometheus Lens. If you just search us up on YouTube, Apple, Spotify,
anywhere you can consume content, you can find me there.
I'm on all the social media's once again, just search
that up and you can find me. And the book
is the Epic of Esau. There's the cover. You got
a yoked out guy with a bow on his back
because he was the Mighty Hunter. So but it's called
The Epic of Esaw, The Birthright and Seed War. You
can pick this up on Amazon in ebook form for
ten bucks, or you can get the paperback version for twenty.
So yeah, just go over there and check that out
on Amazon. It's actually doing well. It's been out for
a week now and I've so just shave one hundred
copies and that's one of the best new release lists
and so it's doing really well. I'm proud of it. Man,
A good old boy like me never wrote a book
and barely finished twelfth grade twenty years ago, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm sure there's some typos and
some stuff in there, just overlook that. The thoughts are there, man,
the nuggets are there if you can look over some
typos and stuff.
Speaker 2: So, man, I think that is so awesome.
Speaker 3: There's been so many topics that I've wanted to write
a book about and I'm not that person. And you
obviously convinced yourself that you are that person somehow and
you made it happen. And what a great topic to
choose to dive into and to do so. I would
love to get a copy of that book. So I'll
go over to Amazon.
Speaker 2: And check that out.
Speaker 3: Everybody right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna live link that
right now, so anybody that's interested in that book, I'll
have the Amazon link right there so that you can
go and check that out and get your own copy.
Speaker 5: Doc.
Speaker 3: Man, you came, you crushed, and you blew my mind,
so I definitely want to have you back on and
further these conversations with you. And thanks man, it's been awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my mouse is dead and I'm gonna end
this the way that I always do. Everybody, keep digging
down those rabbit holes.
Speaker 3: M