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Speaker 4: This is going to be a flag waving production.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Democracy's Big Night, Democracy Show playing on the
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, there are parts of me that
Speaker 4: wish that I wake up tomorrow morning and the last
Speaker 4: four years was just a bad dream, Like when Oh
Speaker 4: Bobby ewingutch Or Jr. Got shot on Dallas, Gary Jeff
Speaker 4: Walker and Dan Carroll on Election Night twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: after what I believe has been a four year campaign
Speaker 4: for President of the United States of America, because it
Speaker 4: all began, This campaign totally began, especially for the Republicans
Speaker 4: and Donald Trump, when it was announced that Joe Biden
Speaker 4: had been certified as President of the United States. And
Speaker 4: tonight we sit on the precipice of another decision. Tonight
Speaker 4: is all about results and decision. We're not going to
Speaker 4: have a whole lot of results between now on nine o'clock,
Speaker 4: but you never know. We could be gladly surprised or
Speaker 4: sadly surprised. It is no secret to those of you
Speaker 4: who listen to us on a regular basis here on
Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW that Dan and I have definite opinions
Speaker 4: about who we would like to win. But it's not
Speaker 4: about campaigning tonight. It's about assessing the campaign, and it's
Speaker 4: about where we go from here and how do we
Speaker 4: get there. Of course, the electoral college count that counts
Speaker 4: as two seventy. If it hits two sixty nine a piece,
Speaker 4: which is a remote possibility but a probability as close
Speaker 4: as all of the pundits and polls say it is,
Speaker 4: then it would go to the House of Representatives. You
Speaker 4: thought twenty twenty was a mess. I can't even imagine
Speaker 4: that scenario, especially if the Democrats retain or get back
Speaker 4: control of the House of Representatives, which we will also
Speaker 4: find out, probably sooner than we know, who is going
Speaker 4: to be the next president, either the former president Donald
Speaker 4: Trump or the current Vice President Kamala Harris. Dan Carroll,
Speaker 4: it's great to be with you tonight. It's a very
Speaker 4: exciting night. But don't you kind of wish it was
Speaker 4: all just a bad dream The last four years.
Speaker 5: You know this is the super Bowl. It's all been
Speaker 5: leading to this. I know I wish that Joe Biden
Speaker 5: would never have been elected president. I don't think I
Speaker 5: still to this day, do not believe that he was
Speaker 5: rightly elected president. I think there was a lot of
Speaker 5: shenanigans that went on with a twenty twenty election. But
Speaker 5: we know we're not here to relitigate that, although if
Speaker 5: the mood strikes, maybe we will.
Speaker 4: But I uh, I'm.
Speaker 5: Forward, Dan forward. Know I get jazzed up about this
Speaker 5: time of year every year. And I mean the the
Speaker 5: pre production in that intro. I mean, I've never been
Speaker 5: part of a show that had something like that.
Speaker 4: Well, plus I never heard it, so I.
Speaker 5: Know I was like, yeah, let's go, but let me.
Speaker 5: You know, one of the things that I talk about
Speaker 5: a lot is the First Amendment. And if people like
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris and people like Nancy Pelosi and people like
Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer have their way, you know what our intro
Speaker 5: would sound like tonight? No, our intro would sound like this, Carrie, Jeff,
Speaker 5: It's great to be here, been preparing for the.
Speaker 4: Show all day.
Speaker 5: We got some great topics tonight, I've got a great
Speaker 5: new recipe for some fluffy scrambled eggs. There's a funny
Speaker 5: story about dog and traffick and tips for protecting your
Speaker 5: tender vegetation on these frosty day and.
Speaker 4: Breaking news Indiana reporting with one percent in Indiana, Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is leading seventy three to twenty eight or something
Speaker 4: like seventy to twenty eight over Kamala Harris. We can
Speaker 4: call it now, No, I don't think so. It's I mean,
Speaker 4: the polls are just closed in Indiana and Kentucky. Kentucky's
Speaker 4: actually got some numbers up right now. They remain open
Speaker 4: in Ohio until seven thirty. Is that I believe seven
Speaker 4: thirty is is the time. So we will, among other things,
Speaker 4: be talking to someone who was very familiar with the
Speaker 4: voting process in Ohio, good friend of ours west Side
Speaker 4: Jim Keefer, who has once again been tapped to be
Speaker 4: a truck commander at the Board of Elections, bringing the
Speaker 4: ballots in and taking the ballots out and taking them
Speaker 4: back to the Board of Election from separate polling places
Speaker 4: around the area. And that's the kind of thing.
Speaker 5: That's the kind of thing that I think that this
Speaker 5: election is that I think this election is going to
Speaker 5: have over what we had in twenty twenty is guys
Speaker 5: like Westside Jim and two hundred and thirty plus thousand
Speaker 5: people who were trained by the Republican National Committee to
Speaker 5: go out and be poll watchers, to go out and report,
Speaker 5: to jump on issues before they become big, and make
Speaker 5: sure that they don't get big, to expose these things
Speaker 5: to the light of day and don't let them fester
Speaker 5: under the surface. And all of a sudden you've got
Speaker 5: all these votes that get counted, and they're in there
Speaker 5: and they're baked into the system. And I really think
Speaker 5: that Wattley and that Laura Trump have been doing a
Speaker 5: great job as the chairman the co chairs of the GOP,
Speaker 5: because to my way of thinking, this is something that
Speaker 5: the GOP should have been doing a long time ago,
Speaker 5: was working on election integrity issues.
Speaker 4: As of four point thirty this afternoon, nationwide, eighty four million,
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty three thousand plus people had already
Speaker 4: cast their ballot in early voting, so the turnout has
Speaker 4: been heavy on election Day many places. My wife and
Speaker 4: I voted in Southgate in our regular polling place at
Speaker 4: the Southgate Sydney Center this morning about nine o'clock, you've
Speaker 4: got your sticker on. It was a yeah, I've got
Speaker 4: my sticker on, and I didn't where might kiss me?
Speaker 4: I voted sticker tonight because I knew I was doing
Speaker 4: the show with you, and I.
Speaker 5: Don't thought you might be tempted. They didn't supply those
Speaker 5: at my pulling.
Speaker 4: No, it's a very, very kind of loose thing in Southgate.
Speaker 4: But anyway, there was not a long line, but there
Speaker 4: was a lot of traffic. There's more traffic than I
Speaker 4: remember at a normally sleepy little polling place in little Southgate, Kentucky,
Speaker 4: than it was in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. A
Speaker 4: big turnout today that people have estimated as much as
Speaker 4: seventy eight percent of registered voters may actually show up
Speaker 4: for this election.
Speaker 5: That would be a good number. I would not be
Speaker 5: surprised if that number is higher, just anecdotally. I spent
Speaker 5: a good part of the day with a large Trump
Speaker 5: flag affixed to the back of my motorcycle, and as
Speaker 5: I visited more electioneering, I know I was just I'm
Speaker 5: a private citizen. I can do what I want.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: I wrote around from polling place to polling place, and
Speaker 5: I knew a lot of people that were working at
Speaker 5: the different polling places, and they tell me they anecdotally
Speaker 5: that and these are people that have been there a
Speaker 5: year after because generally speaking, when you go to vote,
Speaker 5: you probably see the same people there, same poleward. It's
Speaker 5: just about a year after year. And so these people
Speaker 5: have been there for years, they've done this multiple times,
Speaker 5: and they're to a person, they're all telling me that
Speaker 5: this is the most people they've ever seen. And where
Speaker 5: I live in Anderson Township, we normally have very good
Speaker 5: election turnout, even for the off year elections. So plus
Speaker 5: upwards of seventy eighty percent, I would not be surprised
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 4: And you know what bad things happen when you have
Speaker 4: low voter turnout in elections. We see it all the time.
Speaker 4: We see it all the time in Cincinnati. I mean
Speaker 4: when they're voting on an issue and it's an off
Speaker 4: election or a non presidential election year, nineteen percent fifteen
Speaker 4: percent turnout and truly dreadful things get passed by fifteen
Speaker 4: percent of the electorate.
Speaker 5: Well, sir, and the people who put those dreadful things
Speaker 5: on rely on that to happen so they can get
Speaker 5: these dreadful things passed. All they got to do is
Speaker 5: get their people out and not worry about the other people.
Speaker 5: But the other thing that I think is different this
Speaker 5: time around is that by and large, you've got the
Speaker 5: candidate who embraced the whole notion of early voting that
Speaker 5: had not happened before. And my buddy Mark Lotter was
Speaker 5: on CNN yesterday. Mark Lotter is a guy that used
Speaker 5: to work for the We used to work for Mike Pence.
Speaker 5: He was part of the Trump Pence team when they
Speaker 5: ran for reelection. He was in the White House with
Speaker 5: Donald Trump and Pence. And here's what he said on
Speaker 5: CNN yesterday that really got my attention. He's saying, based
Speaker 5: on the numbers that he's seeing from the early voting
Speaker 5: that for Kamala Harris at the math doesn't work. The
Speaker 5: Democrats are down one point seven million early votes in
Speaker 5: the battleground states. In urban areas, there are down one
Speaker 5: point four million votes in battleground amongst women and also
Speaker 5: amongst women voters. Rural voters have outperformed in the early
Speaker 5: voting by over three hundred thousand, and that generally favors Trump.
Speaker 5: And so these are all votes that are out there
Speaker 5: that were not there in years past. And those are
Speaker 5: huge numbers when you consider that it's a you know,
Speaker 5: a three hundred thousand voters who come out in the
Speaker 5: rural areas. You know that that's a huge swing compared
Speaker 5: to years past. And so he was talking about how
Speaker 5: Democrats win their races early and Republicans generally win on
Speaker 5: election day because the turnout is big for Republicans, certainly
Speaker 5: on election day. And he was saying that the margins
Speaker 5: that he was looking at just don't add up for
Speaker 5: the Democrats in the battleground states. So if that analysis
Speaker 5: is correct, which I hope it is, they think it
Speaker 5: could be, you know, maybe not as late of a
Speaker 5: night as we think.
Speaker 4: About with a huge turnout which we're all expecting and
Speaker 4: what we've seen so far, Dan, how does it affect
Speaker 4: the down ballot races? How does it affect the race, say,
Speaker 4: for example, in the first district between Greg Lansman and
Speaker 4: Orlando's Sanza uh And and does Orlando actually have a
Speaker 4: chance to take that back for the Republicans.
Speaker 5: Well, that was the thing when when Biden got elected
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty, and the analysis of that was that
Speaker 5: Biden had no or very very little coattails. So it
Speaker 5: was a meaning that he did not take a lot
Speaker 5: of Republicans with him down the ballot. So you had
Speaker 5: you had that dynamic going on. And so when when
Speaker 5: the turnout comes and it's going to be interesting, it's
Speaker 5: it's hard for me to imagine someone coming out and
Speaker 5: voting for Trump and I'm not voting for and A
Speaker 5: lands An Orlando Sonza or voting for a Moreno, someone
Speaker 5: like Bernie Moreno.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, that is the other big race. Shared
Speaker 4: Brown and the packs surrounding and supporting Shared Brown with
Speaker 4: the campaign money have spent million. I think it was
Speaker 4: as much as four hundred million dollars has been spent
Speaker 4: between the two candidates.
Speaker 5: Most expensive Senate race in the country this year. I
Speaker 5: don't know if it's the most expensive one ever, but
Speaker 5: I'm but I mean hundreds upwards of four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: As someone who supports generally conservative or right leaning candidates,
Speaker 4: when I saw that, I mean, I knew very little
Speaker 4: about Bernie Marino except that he was a car dealer
Speaker 4: in Cleveland and that Trump had endorsed him. Shared Brown
Speaker 4: was hitting the road in June. In July with campaign
Speaker 4: ads lots of campaign ads. It was like, I was
Speaker 4: so sick of the shared Brown adds, and I'm going,
Speaker 4: where are the Bernie Marino ads? Because they didn't they
Speaker 4: didn't break till late in the game, and all the
Speaker 4: allegations about Bernie Marino as a businessman and shady guy
Speaker 4: and all the other and and then more recently the
Speaker 4: abortion issue, which is again going to be pretty huge
Speaker 4: in this election in several races, you know. Uh, even
Speaker 4: with that, from what I understand, the shared Brown Bernie
Speaker 4: Marino race is close, is very close. Is that Is
Speaker 4: that the President Trump factor?
Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I think I think
Speaker 5: that's more of a factor when I look at what
Speaker 5: happened to Marino, because I was at an event towards
Speaker 5: the end of the summertime, and the people that spoke
Speaker 5: at this event and current including the current Attorney General
Speaker 5: of of of the state of Ohio, yep uh, they
Speaker 5: were they were doing what they could to pump up Marino.
Speaker 5: They were and they were talking about how you know
Speaker 5: it's still early, you know, seven eight points behind, we
Speaker 5: can make that up. So I think it's more of
Speaker 5: a factor of the traditional people who involved themselves in
Speaker 5: politics were Normally people don't start paying attention to politics
Speaker 5: until what until the end of summer, until until Memorial
Speaker 5: Day or Labor Day. So I think I think that's
Speaker 5: what worked in Marino's favor, and and the and the
Speaker 5: you know, the polling here in the last month or
Speaker 5: the last you know, six sevens has shown it very
Speaker 5: close as they has shown a huge trend for Marino.
Speaker 5: And you know how hard it is generally hard. I
Speaker 5: think that's why some of the lot of the late
Speaker 5: money came in on both sides of this campaign to
Speaker 5: jack up those numbers.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and do you know how difficult it
Speaker 4: is historically to unseat an incumbent solder. The Senate is
Speaker 4: full of the one hundred most powerful people in the country,
Speaker 4: and it's it's almost like you have to find them
Speaker 4: in bed with a horse, and maybe even that doesn't
Speaker 4: doesn't kill their campaign.
Speaker 5: Well, it's you know, I was going to say, it's
Speaker 5: harder than getting a word in edgewise when you're sitting
Speaker 5: across the table from Cunningham. That's that's a difficult no, no,
Speaker 5: that that's politics one o one right there. And the
Speaker 5: power of the incumbency is is just something that they can,
Speaker 5: especially in the more the more local the races. I
Speaker 5: mean you look at the I mean that there's a
Speaker 5: lot of names. I mean the ballot I filled out
Speaker 5: was two pages long. Yep, both sides of the paper
Speaker 5: and uh and and and you.
Speaker 4: Vote in what county? Hamilton County, Okay, you vote in
Speaker 4: Hamilton County. I voted in Campbell County. In ours was
Speaker 4: both sides, right, It was a two sided ballot. But
Speaker 4: even someone who pays attention, there's going to be some
Speaker 4: names in there that.
Speaker 6: That got it.
Speaker 5: I don't know this name. I don't know this And
Speaker 5: so that's why the power of the incompascy and name
Speaker 5: recognition is such a key thing.
Speaker 4: Well, certainly we've got Issue one in Ohio, Amendment one
Speaker 4: and two in Kentucky. They're both big ballot issues and
Speaker 4: a lot of money has been spent, and they're trying
Speaker 4: to put down issues, especially Issue too in Kentucky, which
Speaker 4: of course is the school choice issue. Kentucky's one of
Speaker 4: only two states in the nation that doesn't have some
Speaker 4: form of school choice for parents and real competition with
Speaker 4: public schools.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: And Issue one in Ohio about the drawing of the districts,
Speaker 4: well that that amendment is such a mess.
Speaker 5: At my polling place today, it's at an elementary school,
Speaker 5: and there was a I want to say, not a billboard,
Speaker 5: but you know, a corkboard, right, a sorting board, big
Speaker 5: bigger than one of these TVs here, and they had
Speaker 5: the full text of Issue one opened up up on
Speaker 5: a piece of paper on this billboard or on this
Speaker 5: uh this.
Speaker 4: Right on this courtboard, and it took up the whole board.
Speaker 5: I mean it was like you know, you know those
Speaker 5: when you open a thing of drugs and you and
Speaker 5: you start unfolding the piece of paper in there and
Speaker 5: it winds up getting like like big as a map
Speaker 5: of the United States. Certainly, this thing was unbelievably huge
Speaker 5: and will it was in the full text.
Speaker 4: And the language is not average person town discern exactly
Speaker 4: what this this amendment or issue says. And they do
Speaker 4: that on purpose, They write them that way on purpose.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what a mess? What an about? Let's
Speaker 4: take a break, Gary, Jeff Walker, and Dan Carroll on
Speaker 4: election night. Results are starting to come in. We're going
Speaker 4: to get to those between now and nine o'clock. Rocky
Speaker 4: Boyman is behind the mic at nine for his double
Speaker 4: dip today. As Willie would say, he's not a show horse,
Speaker 4: He's a workers And we continue on election Night on
Speaker 4: seven hund WLW. But do you see how traffic it is?
Speaker 4: Election Night, Gary, Jeff Walker, Dan Carroll with you on
Speaker 4: seven hundred WLWR. Coverage will continue throughout the evening from
Speaker 4: the seven hundred WLW newsroom, updates from ABC News and
Speaker 4: several special guests along the way. The polls have closed
Speaker 4: in Indiana and Kentucky, and we have results or not
Speaker 4: full results, partially partial results as we as we go
Speaker 4: through the evening. In Ohio, the polls remain open until
Speaker 4: seven thirty. The first voting in this twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: election occurred, of course, in Dicksville Notch, New Hampshire, where
Speaker 4: the six residents split three each.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, Biden swept Dixville Notch really or
Speaker 5: it might have been five to one something like it was.
Speaker 5: It was a lopsided victory. So in other words, the
Speaker 5: margins have narrowed. Well, I mean, if they're a precursor
Speaker 5: for the rest of the country, then we see things
Speaker 5: have changed.
Speaker 4: We have our first guest of the evening, doctor Carol
Speaker 4: Lieberman is a forensic psychiatrist, and I mean board certified.
Speaker 4: She's just an amazing, amazing person who's probably seen her
Speaker 4: on Oprah or The Today Show or Fox News or CNN,
Speaker 4: And we wanted to talk to doctor Carroll tonight, namely
Speaker 4: about the candidate's body language and what it says from
Speaker 4: a psychological standpoint. Doctor Lieberman, good evening, and welcome to
Speaker 4: our election coverage.
Speaker 3: How are you good evening?
Speaker 8: Fine? Thank you, as fine as one could be on
Speaker 8: a day like.
Speaker 4: This, America's psychiatrist with us. So tell me, doctor Lieberman,
Speaker 4: what do you look for when you're looking at candidate's
Speaker 4: posture to reveal about their emotional state at the time.
Speaker 8: Well, the first of all, faith, that's you know, that
Speaker 8: usually gives out lots of clues. Second of all, you know,
Speaker 8: for example, I was analyzing the debates and so like
Speaker 8: the vice presidential debate, Vance had this really strong, uh posture,
Speaker 8: good posture. You know, he looked like I called him,
Speaker 8: like the captain of the ship. You know, he looked
Speaker 8: like he knew what he was doing. He wasn't going
Speaker 8: to be uh disturbed or you know, bothered by anything
Speaker 8: that even though they even though that the moderator has
Speaker 8: worn one hundred percent fair. But he wasn't gonna let
Speaker 8: that bother him. He had you know, he was sure
Speaker 8: that what he wanted about what he wanted to say.
Speaker 4: What about the assistant coach governor of Minnesota vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 8: Tim Walltz, Yes, the one who lied about being Antiennamin
Speaker 8: Square and all that. Yeah, he looks very nervous. You know,
Speaker 8: you can also telp not before looking, you know, at
Speaker 8: their uh, like if they're if their eyes are shifting,
Speaker 8: or if they're you know, moving around, moving their hands
Speaker 8: around in a nervous kind of way. You can also tell,
Speaker 8: like the average person can tell even if they don't
Speaker 8: know all the different specific kind of things to look.
Speaker 8: More like whether their hands are closed in front of
Speaker 8: them that means they're closed off or wide open or
Speaker 8: you know, they're all there's all these little tips, all
Speaker 8: these little ways of looking at it. But the average person,
Speaker 8: anybody can look at a person and you know, like
Speaker 8: in a debate or like just you know, watching them
Speaker 8: and how you feel when you look at them. So
Speaker 8: like with with Advance and Walk, when you looked Advance,
Speaker 8: you felt secure, you felt calm, like he calmed you.
Speaker 8: When you looked at Waltz, he made you nervous because
Speaker 8: he was so nervous.
Speaker 5: What do you make he was moving around a lot
Speaker 5: during that, Doctor Lieberman, What do you make of.
Speaker 4: The vice president's incessant laughter at weird moments?
Speaker 8: What do you make of that that is a symptom
Speaker 8: of her imposter syndrome? I believe No. I haven't examined
Speaker 8: her one on one, and I don't particularly want to
Speaker 8: meet her, but she has imposter syndrome. What that means
Speaker 8: is when someone doesn't feel as though they are really
Speaker 8: as good or they represent what it is that people
Speaker 8: think that they are, so you know, they know that
Speaker 8: they're hiding something. And with Kamala Harris, she never had
Speaker 8: the qualifications to be anything. When she was in California.
Speaker 8: She only went up through the ranks because she slept
Speaker 8: with people, you know, with at least one person, the
Speaker 8: mayor of San Francisco, and he helped her move up
Speaker 8: the ranks. And then when Biden picked her to be
Speaker 8: his vice president, it wasn't because she was brilliant or
Speaker 8: she had these great idea It was because she was
Speaker 8: a black woman and he needed those segments of the
Speaker 8: population to vote for him.
Speaker 4: Isn't that ridiculous? Isn't that iculous?
Speaker 8: And she's living because she's uncomfortable. She's always afraid of
Speaker 8: being found out. Someone with imposter syndrome is always afraid
Speaker 8: of being found out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that. I love that analysis. I had
Speaker 5: a on my social media feed this morning. There was
Speaker 5: an individual who put out there that he turned his
Speaker 5: TV on and he recorded there was a commercial of
Speaker 5: three or four different individuals who claim to be psychiatrists
Speaker 5: or psychologists and that they have analyzed Donald Trump and
Speaker 5: they're calling him a narcissist and all these really nasty things.
Speaker 5: And my response, my response to this individual was is
Speaker 5: that don't worry about it, because the likelihood that these
Speaker 5: people are really doctors is probably remote at best. I
Speaker 5: don't see how any self respecting individual with the title
Speaker 5: doctor would go on and do a commercial like that
Speaker 5: and claim to be able to diagnose someone simply by
Speaker 5: looking them out on TV.
Speaker 8: This is a commercial, not an interview.
Speaker 4: It was a commercial. Oh wow, for what it's worth.
Speaker 5: I was telling the guy not to worry because they're
Speaker 5: probably fake doctors. Like everything else in this campaign.
Speaker 8: I know about this this group of supposed to psychiatrists
Speaker 8: and psychologists, they were around for the twenty twenty election,
Speaker 8: and they were calling him a malignant narcissist. And it
Speaker 8: was so outrageous because yes, is he a little narcissistic. Sure,
Speaker 8: but you know, you kind of have to be to
Speaker 8: run for president, you have to think you're pretty great
Speaker 8: or else why would you want to be the lead
Speaker 8: this country? You know, and would hope you would think
Speaker 8: you had good things to share. But these people, these therapists,
Speaker 8: so called therapists, got together in a group, they formed
Speaker 8: an organization and they were calling him a malignant arcissistem
Speaker 8: believe in arcissist is someone who isn't just you know,
Speaker 8: doesn't just think a lot of himself. It's someone who
Speaker 8: is going to use that against other people. And it's
Speaker 8: really outrageous because they never met Donald Trump and they're
Speaker 8: just now granted I have said things like I have
Speaker 8: said things about well, I just said something about Kamala
Speaker 8: Harris and explain that I've never met her. They don't
Speaker 8: go through that. Well, actually some of them do what
Speaker 8: they say, though they get around that by saying that
Speaker 8: they call themselves duty to warn at least they did
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty. Duty to warn. And what that has
Speaker 8: to do with is when you have a patient and
Speaker 8: the patient tells you that they're thinking of killing somebody,
Speaker 8: you have a duty to warn the person who they
Speaker 8: say they're going to kill and the police. And so
Speaker 8: they're trying to get around the fact that they never
Speaker 8: met Trump by saying, well, we have a duty to
Speaker 8: warn Americans that.
Speaker 4: He Well, what what is your overall analysis of Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's body language?
Speaker 8: Well? He you know his dancing. You gotta gotta love
Speaker 8: him dancing, right, I mean, he has some very he
Speaker 8: keeps things kind of close. You know, he he's similar
Speaker 8: to a dance in that he gives this.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: He's tall, I mean he stands tall. The thing about
Speaker 8: Donald Trump, if you only knew one thing about him,
Speaker 8: it would be that would show who he is. It
Speaker 8: would be what happened when he was shot in in
Speaker 8: when here, you know, he didn't know how badly he
Speaker 8: was shot. He felt, uh, blood coming down his face,
Speaker 8: He saw blood. It could have gone into his brain
Speaker 8: for all he knew. And and what did he do?
Speaker 8: He got up even though the secrets were trying to
Speaker 8: push him down. Keep him down protected his supposedly, Uh,
Speaker 8: he got up and what did he say? Fight?
Speaker 9: Fight? Fight?
Speaker 8: Now in that moment, he didn't have time to plan
Speaker 8: what he was going to say. I don't think he
Speaker 8: got up that morning thinking, huh, what am I gonna say?
Speaker 8: Am I get shot? So it was totally natural. And
Speaker 8: by saying fight, fight, fight, what he was saying was
Speaker 8: if I die, you know, if I'm gone, you people
Speaker 8: keep fighting. Fight fight fight, And the way he said
Speaker 8: it was just so you know, he gave me shows
Speaker 8: and that's who he is.
Speaker 4: Doctor Laberman. We thank you for your time tonight. It's
Speaker 4: great and uh we're gonna sit here and watch the
Speaker 4: results and report what we know. In just a few minutes,
Speaker 4: Georgia will close at seven thirty Ohio's polls close. We've
Speaker 4: already seen more than eighty four million votes early votes
Speaker 4: as of four point thirty this afternoon, and there was
Speaker 4: so much more to come. But again, I appreciate your
Speaker 4: viewpoint and your expertise. Well, thank you as a real doctor.
Speaker 4: There a real doctor, Dan. It's six fifty one or
Speaker 4: so on this election night, Gary Jeff and Dan Carroll.
Speaker 5: But speaking of body language, Yes, did you see the
Speaker 5: video of Kamala Harris when she was supposedly knocking on doors.
Speaker 4: No, I know that was the last minute thing that
Speaker 4: she was doing in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: This this was last night c Span was was presenting
Speaker 5: this video, and there was at least it looks that
Speaker 5: the houses that she showed up that looked remarkably the same,
Speaker 5: which if they're in the same neighborhood, they could look
Speaker 5: very much alike. But I saw a total of her
Speaker 5: at two different residences knocking on the first door. The
Speaker 5: woman comes out and gives her a bit as if
Speaker 5: they've known each other for fifteen years, a big hug,
Speaker 5: and she's going there carrying on and on and on,
Speaker 5: and the husband comes out. And then there's another shot
Speaker 5: of her talking to a man and his wife and
Speaker 5: maybe their teenage son, and it looks like they might
Speaker 5: be on the side of the house, and at one
Speaker 5: point she says, can you can we go back inside
Speaker 5: so I can actually knock on the door.
Speaker 4: That's not staged at all.
Speaker 5: Okay, fun if the if a presidential candidate is going
Speaker 5: to go walk around the neighborhood and knock on doors,
Speaker 5: can't you at least be authentic about that? But I
Speaker 5: mean when the when the person is already standing outside
Speaker 5: and you know you're not getting the shot of you
Speaker 5: knocking on the door, you say, can we please go
Speaker 5: back inside so I can knock on the door?
Speaker 4: I mean, come on. It can be very effective campaign tool.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I know when I was in Tennessee years ago when
Speaker 4: Lamar Alexander, who ultimately became a senator and you know,
Speaker 4: power player in the Republican Party was he was running
Speaker 4: for governor, he literally walked across the state of Tennessee
Speaker 4: in a campaign and knocked on doors. It can work.
Speaker 4: I got elected. Amendment won, by the way, in Kentucky
Speaker 4: is passing, and that is requiring you to be a
Speaker 4: citizen of this country to vote. What a concept. And
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that that's not already a law on
Speaker 4: the books in the Commonwealth. But they had to pose
Speaker 4: it as an amendment in this election. Amendment too, which
Speaker 4: is the school choice Amendment. The last numbers I saw
Speaker 4: it was going down. The no's were fifty eight percent,
Speaker 4: the yes's were forty two percent. And this is all
Speaker 4: about the strength of teachers' unions in Kentucky. They got Bashir,
Speaker 4: they got Andy elected a second time, partly because they
Speaker 4: want to keep their grip, especially in the rural counties
Speaker 4: of the Commonwealth. There are plenty of other races in
Speaker 4: the local area that may be affecting you where you're
Speaker 4: listening tonight. In Kentucky, Steve Doan is winning his in
Speaker 4: the sixty ninth their district. In the Kentucky House, Stephanie
Speaker 4: Diets is winning hers, Kimberly Moser was winning at last check,
Speaker 4: and Chris McDaniel, who is an Army vet running for
Speaker 4: Kentucky State Senate, as an early lead to again. Those
Speaker 4: polls have been closed for about fifty five minutes now
Speaker 4: as well as Indiana. We're getting Indiana results in Kentucky results,
Speaker 4: of course, no Ohio results until after those polls close
Speaker 4: in about thirty six minutes. Dan, So their last words here, Now,
Speaker 4: that was a very good report there. Indiana has about
Speaker 4: just over ten percent in and Trump is leading Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris fifty seven to forty percent. All right, Dan, that
Speaker 4: number has moved. It was seventy at the start for
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, and it will move down a little bit.
Speaker 4: But Indiana is not expected to be a swing state.
Speaker 4: It's not supposed to be in doubt for Donald Trump
Speaker 4: or the Republicans really, but that's the first double digit
Speaker 4: number we've seen. Report And in Kentucky at five percent
Speaker 4: has Donald Trump with a sixty eight percent lead at
Speaker 4: this point over Kamala Harris. Will take a break and
Speaker 4: come back more Election night coverage. And Rick Robinson, who
Speaker 4: has a lot of experience with campaigns over the last
Speaker 4: forty to fifty years, a lot of experience in Washington, DC.
Speaker 4: He knows how the machine and the swamp works. And
Speaker 4: thanks to watch for as we go through the evening
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Speaker 4: have been called at this point. Florida getting results in
Speaker 4: from Florida it's very very close still in the Sunshine State,
Speaker 4: and Georgia has now had polls closed there as of
Speaker 4: about ten minutes ago, and it's way too soon to
Speaker 4: know what's going to go on there. Wanted to have
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Speaker 4: Sloan just text me a few moments ago and said
Speaker 4: that Boris Johnston and Stormy Daniels are doing election night
Speaker 4: coverage on Sky News, just in case you want to
Speaker 4: trip over there. This next gentleman spent a lot of time,
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Speaker 4: knew a lot of the politicians, some presidents, and just
Speaker 4: to get his perspective on things that he is watching
Speaker 4: for tonight as the results come in. His name is
Speaker 4: Rick Robinson. He is a lawyer and an author of
Speaker 4: great book, actually several great books. Is latest this past
Speaker 4: year was nineteen sixty eight about how nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 4: shaped baby boomers and what was then and what is
Speaker 4: now and drew some comparisons and some parallels. We welcome
Speaker 4: in Rick Robinson.
Speaker 11: How you doing, Rick, Gary Jeff, It is so exciting
Speaker 11: to be here on the first episode of Decision twenty
Speaker 11: twenty eight.
Speaker 4: The first episode of Decision twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 11: Okay, I and I really want to have if we
Speaker 11: go back to the beginning, Dan, I really do need
Speaker 11: your recipe for fluffy eggs.
Speaker 10: I just can't it.
Speaker 5: I was well, that was and I was making a
Speaker 5: point there about the first Amendment that if the you
Speaker 5: know a lot of these people who are in charge
Speaker 5: now in power and Congress hold on. Matt Reese has
Speaker 5: now entered the original update for it. Matt Reason has
Speaker 5: got an update. Election update. What do you got now?
Speaker 12: Good evening, you guys wanted to get you updated. NBC
Speaker 12: News now projecting Trump to win the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 4: We already had that.
Speaker 12: You had that good and about Indiana, So we're good.
Speaker 12: You make sure you've got that, and we're find what
Speaker 12: about Vermont? Vermont? To get to that, But I wasn't
Speaker 12: sure if you were on the edge of your seat
Speaker 12: over Vermont. Well, okay, guys, I don't you know what
Speaker 12: we're on the edge of our seat over any any numbers.
Speaker 4: No, no, I know that this is This is dedication
Speaker 4: of the seven hundred w l W News staff. Even
Speaker 4: though we may give you information, they're here to reiterate,
Speaker 4: and in case we don't have something or don't have
Speaker 4: something right, they're here to correct us. Did you bring
Speaker 4: your big your big, your big swater which you used
Speaker 4: to correct me? But you remember back in Matt Adams,
Speaker 4: you used to correct me all the time. You had
Speaker 4: a fly swatter and when I'd say something Matt didn't like,
Speaker 4: he'd just hit me with it.
Speaker 12: I don't remember that something, but it does. It is
Speaker 12: interesting that years ago doing this, you know, you're you're
Speaker 12: here with all of the technology right in front of you.
Speaker 12: There was a time when the news people had the
Speaker 12: really the access to it, and the people on the
Speaker 12: air did not have that. Uh, and so they're on
Speaker 12: the air doing a show and they don't know exactly
Speaker 12: what's just him. But you've got laptops in front of you,
Speaker 12: all of the TV set, you can see all of
Speaker 12: this stuff. So you know what, I'm going to assume
Speaker 12: you are going to get it in real time.
Speaker 4: And you know what, Dan said that he also has
Speaker 4: crystal balls that he'll be gazing into from time to
Speaker 4: time during the evening. I'm only here un till nine o'clock,
Speaker 4: all right. Rick Robinson wants Fluffy Eggs. Rick Let's Matt
Speaker 4: anytime SEVENLW Newsroom. That guy's the best. You'll have an
Speaker 4: update again in five minutes, I guarantee you.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 4: So, Rick, what what were you about to say before
Speaker 4: we were all rudely interrupted.
Speaker 11: Well, the first thing that I'm going to look for tonight, Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 11: Dan and I think you have to watch for it
Speaker 11: every time because it's never predictable, is that I want
Speaker 11: to look for a wave. Is there a wave happening
Speaker 11: that I don't see coming? Gary, Jeff, you and I have.
Speaker 11: I talked about it several times on the air. They
Speaker 11: just don't show up in polls. So I'm going to
Speaker 11: be looking at a lot of local races, a lot
Speaker 11: of small things that are happening here and there, And
Speaker 11: if suddenly I see somebody who should be winning that isn't,
Speaker 11: or there being some big variation in a race that
Speaker 11: I've been watching, that's going to be an indicator to
Speaker 11: me that something bigger is going on.
Speaker 10: Now, I personally don't think a wave is happening.
Speaker 11: I talk with a friend of mine, Tom Dunn, who
Speaker 11: has been a press secretary in a lot of campaigns
Speaker 11: out in Arizona today and He was telling me that
Speaker 11: tickets splitting out there is going to be the order
Speaker 11: of the day. In fact, he thinks that Trump is
Speaker 11: going to win Arizona, but that Carrie.
Speaker 10: Lake is going to lose. So you're going to have
Speaker 10: a lot of.
Speaker 11: Tickets splitting going on there, which usually does. It is
Speaker 11: an indicative of a wave. So that's one of the
Speaker 11: things I'm going to be watching.
Speaker 10: I'm going to take a look at this. I'm going
Speaker 10: to look at the.
Speaker 11: Early results coming in in some of these races.
Speaker 10: Things that are happening, things are going on.
Speaker 11: If I suddenly see some upsets, that's going to raise
Speaker 11: a flag for me that something bigger's happened.
Speaker 4: In Georgia, they've counted some one hundred and sixty five
Speaker 4: thousand votes and Kamala Harris is slightly ahead of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Does that tell you anything at all?
Speaker 11: But you know, when it comes to early returns like this,
Speaker 11: the tough thing that's hard to do, Gary Jeff is
Speaker 11: to look at it and go where are they from?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's three percent.
Speaker 11: Well it is in well, yeah, but is it coming
Speaker 11: from Atlanta? Is it coming from the southern part of
Speaker 11: the state. And if it's coming from areas that are
Speaker 11: read and reporting early. Ooh, that could be bad news
Speaker 11: for Donald Trump. If it's coming from Atlanta, she better
Speaker 11: be up by bigger number than that, when you know,
Speaker 11: bigger percentage by that at the end of the night,
Speaker 11: if she wants to cover carry Georgia.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think what makes this year especially interesting, right is
Speaker 5: that we have a dynamic in this election that we
Speaker 5: really haven't had before, and that is the large Republican
Speaker 5: turnout in the early voting. And so far it looks
Speaker 5: like the early voting has gone as good as Republicans
Speaker 5: and the RNC could have hoped for at this point.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, perhaps the traditional way we
Speaker 5: expect things to go maybe is not what we're going
Speaker 5: to see a lot of tonight.
Speaker 11: It's again even when you're looking at it, because you're
Speaker 11: looking at when you look at the early results, and
Speaker 11: a lot of the states as early results Alsoude for
Speaker 11: Inskentucky is a good example. They include the early results
Speaker 11: include absentee and.
Speaker 10: So again it's.
Speaker 11: Hard to tell what that number coming in early there,
Speaker 11: but it does bring up its sister state, which is.
Speaker 10: The second thing I'm going to be watching.
Speaker 11: We had Gary Jeff and I were on last week
Speaker 11: and a buddy of mine called in from North Carolina
Speaker 11: who's working on the lieutenant governor's campaign down there. Yes,
Speaker 11: And one of the keys for Donald Trump to go
Speaker 11: back to the White House is he has to.
Speaker 10: Win North Carolina.
Speaker 11: The problem in North Carolina with the Trump campaign isn't
Speaker 11: Donald Trump. It's that they have a governor's race in
Speaker 11: that state that the candidates are the voters, and the
Speaker 11: Republican Party has literally walked away from the Republican goubernatorial candidate.
Speaker 11: So you talk about tickets splitting being an issue, you
Speaker 11: have a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you very easily could have it. You could have
Speaker 4: Cooper win and Trump win, is what you're saying in
Speaker 4: North Carolina.
Speaker 11: Absolutely absolutely, Well. But I guess the other thing Gary,
Speaker 11: Jeff that I'm asking is will Mark Robinson bring down
Speaker 11: Trump's numbers?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I hope not.
Speaker 10: Something you have to welcop Well.
Speaker 4: Usually usually coattails aren't from the bottom race up, they're
Speaker 4: usually from the top down.
Speaker 11: Right, Normally you would normally you would think that, but
Speaker 11: this has not been and will and is not going
Speaker 11: to be a normal election.
Speaker 4: Well, I believe that it's been going on for so
Speaker 4: long what what are the other things that you might
Speaker 4: be looking for, Rick Robinson as the results come in tonight.
Speaker 11: The ten states where abortion's on the issue, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada,
Speaker 11: and New York South Dakota.
Speaker 10: Are they going to up? Is that upping to turnout?
Speaker 11: You know, this is a race that when you come
Speaker 11: down to it and when you look at it in
Speaker 11: you know, twenty years from now, there's a lot of
Speaker 11: things that happened in this race, but everybody's going to
Speaker 11: talk about that this race involved two issues, immigration and abortion.
Speaker 11: The winner may be shitting back on election in twenty
Speaker 11: years ago on somebody will be saying, well, they want
Speaker 11: because of this issue one of the two. And I'm
Speaker 11: going to watch and see if in those states, if
Speaker 11: there's a larger turnout that's happened going on in any
Speaker 11: place else.
Speaker 10: An other thing I'm going to be watching, and.
Speaker 11: This is a big issue for me that I watch
Speaker 11: every year on election night, and that is the Latino vote. Now,
Speaker 11: the Latino vote has been interesting over the last couple
Speaker 11: of years. And I really hate to say the Latino
Speaker 11: vote because there is no Latino vote, and it's the
Speaker 11: different people within the Latino vote.
Speaker 10: That vote different ways.
Speaker 11: Cubans, for instance, have always been traditionally Republican, some of
Speaker 11: the others Venezuelan's Puerto Ricans have been traditionally Democrats. Both
Speaker 11: of them have been moving in the opposite directions though
Speaker 11: over the last couple of years. And so you take
Speaker 11: a look what will there be If you look at Florida,
Speaker 11: for instance, if you look at Miami, that is the
Speaker 11: Cuban vote, that is not the Latina vote.
Speaker 10: If you look at what is like the you've been down.
Speaker 11: There and you know where the B Line Expressway is.
Speaker 11: It rouse from Tampa to Orlando and.
Speaker 10: Over to Daytona.
Speaker 11: If you look at that pat that's the Puerto Rican vote,
Speaker 11: that's the Mexican vote, that's the Venezuela And those are
Speaker 11: the votes that are in there that are going to
Speaker 11: come in and again those have been traditionally Democrat. They've
Speaker 11: been tending trending Republican over the last couple of years.
Speaker 11: Did the Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 10: Do anything to that?
Speaker 11: Will that have an impact on what's going on in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 11: That's going to be a place to watch is where
Speaker 11: small numbers can come back and forth and surprise people.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the fifth thing that I'm going to be go ahead, No,
Speaker 10: you know, you go ahead.
Speaker 4: You had another thing.
Speaker 11: Well, the fifth thing that I'm going to be watching
Speaker 11: is Pennsylvania.
Speaker 10: I mean, how can you.
Speaker 11: Not watch Pennsylvania If you look at the easiest path
Speaker 11: to two seventy for both of the candidates, Both of
Speaker 11: the easiest paths include one or the other winning Pennsylvania.
Speaker 11: So you could talk about the sun Belt, you can
Speaker 11: talk about the Rust Belt, you can talk about everything else,
Speaker 11: but the easiest path for both of them, both of
Speaker 11: them have to win Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: For the easy path, here's a shocker for you, Rick,
Speaker 4: here's a shocker for you. Bernie Sanders has been declared
Speaker 4: the winner in his re election of the Senate Vermont.
Speaker 4: There's a shocker.
Speaker 11: Well, well, I'm laborer going out on the edge and
Speaker 11: giving giving Trump Kentucky and Burnon Sanders, etc. Let's hope
Speaker 11: we can dig a little deeper on some of these
Speaker 11: ones as we go forward. You can tell you know,
Speaker 11: the ones that get called Early's.
Speaker 5: What we said earlier. It is tough to get those
Speaker 5: incumbents out of there, man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then that's that's the issue in Ohio was
Speaker 4: Shared Brown and Bernie Marino. No matter how well or
Speaker 4: or not well President trum does in Ohio, he indoors
Speaker 4: burning Marino, and Marino has closed the gap on Shared Brown.
Speaker 4: But as I was talking earlier, it is one of
Speaker 4: the most difficult things in the world to unseat an
Speaker 4: incumbent senator.
Speaker 11: Yes, it absolutely is. It's tough to get that person
Speaker 11: out there. And I got to tell you from the
Speaker 11: standpoint of watching campaign ads, and I used to used
Speaker 11: to write a bunch of campaign ads, and when I
Speaker 11: saw the ads coming out of Shared Brown's campaign, especially
Speaker 11: the ones that were hitting Moreno about the lawsuits and
Speaker 11: the executive pay and everything else. Moreno never responded, and
Speaker 11: he left that allegation out there.
Speaker 10: He left it hang out there.
Speaker 11: There was no response. There was nothing else. I think
Speaker 11: that's going to have an impact on the race.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that one issue is what hurt him
Speaker 5: more than anything in Ohio this time around.
Speaker 4: Rick, I appreciate it. I appreciate your expertise and your experience,
Speaker 4: and thanks for sharing the knowledge with us tonight, and
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I don't think we're going to
Speaker 4: have a result on the presidential race by nine o'clock,
Speaker 4: do you.
Speaker 10: Gosh?
Speaker 11: I hope not, because I'm going to be in bed
Speaker 11: by ten.
Speaker 10: I'm like, you know.
Speaker 11: I may get a bottle of wine out and start
Speaker 11: to and start watching some returns, but if I suddenly
Speaker 11: see things starting to.
Speaker 10: Be competitive, I may stay up.
Speaker 11: You know, Gary Jeff, one of the things my wife
Speaker 11: and I used to do in Washington was that, just
Speaker 11: because we didn't want to follow and everything, we'd always
Speaker 11: make sure we get tickets to a hockey game that night. Capitals,
Speaker 11: for some reason, always play in town on election night,
Speaker 11: and we would always end up being down the Cap
Speaker 11: Center watching the election, the result, watching the hockey game,
Speaker 11: and you know, we get home about eleven o'clock and
Speaker 11: then we decide whether we want to stay up and watch.
Speaker 11: So maybe that's what I'll do tonight. I'll turn one
Speaker 11: in America tonight.
Speaker 4: You're too good to ignore, man. I know we'll be
Speaker 4: talking again soon. Thanks, Rick.
Speaker 10: All right, take care, guys.
Speaker 4: It is election night. The results are coming in from
Speaker 4: around the country. We've got results, and we will continue
Speaker 4: to bring them to you as we progress. Gary Jeff
Speaker 4: and Dan Carroll with you on seven hundred WLW. Election Night,
Speaker 4: Gary Jeff and Dan Carroll with you on seven hundred
Speaker 4: WLW as the results continue to come in. Yes, no
Speaker 4: rock and roll archaeology tonight. No, I couldn't get the
Speaker 4: prop up. He's probably glued to the radio or the
Speaker 4: television watching the results come in as we are. Indiana,
Speaker 4: Kentucky called for President Trump, Vermont called for Kamala Harrison.
Speaker 4: The presidential race and George's poles are closed. Ohio's polls
Speaker 4: just closed about seven minutes ago. And without any further Ado,
Speaker 4: let's get to our friend west Side, Jim, the truck
Speaker 4: commander at the border of elections moving those ballots. How's
Speaker 4: it going so far this evening?
Speaker 6: Jimmy?
Speaker 9: Hey, Gary Jeff? What you say?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 4: How you say? West Side?
Speaker 6: Jim?
Speaker 4: Been a while? How you been, man?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it has been a while. I got to start.
Speaker 10: Calling in to you, Bud.
Speaker 9: So I'm saying, actually, I'm not at the Board of Elections, Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 9: I'm out on knee broad in del high So we're
Speaker 9: having a big party out here.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, So, no truck commandering tonight.
Speaker 9: Oh No, I got the truck commander and I have
Speaker 9: three of our crew that are standing next to me
Speaker 9: listening to your pipes.
Speaker 4: You and Dan, all right, so what did you do today?
Speaker 4: You said you had to move a lot of heavy boxes.
Speaker 9: Well, not heavy boxes. I just had to go around
Speaker 9: to each little precinct up here to the since I'm
Speaker 9: a ward chair, and deliver the pink copies and make
Speaker 9: sure everybody's covered and see if they needed anything and
Speaker 9: stuff like that, and make sure we hit people at
Speaker 9: our polls to hand out those pink copies so people
Speaker 9: can we call cheat sheets, but it gives people an idea,
Speaker 9: especially on judges who to vote for it.
Speaker 4: What have you seen so far in the results or
Speaker 4: a turnout? Have you been well checking out the different
Speaker 4: pole places. Turnout? Yeah, turnout.
Speaker 9: Turnout's been really really big. I thought after the weekend
Speaker 9: at the Board of Elections, since there was seventy two
Speaker 9: hundred people out there Saturday and I think close to
Speaker 9: six thousand Sunday, and then they were busy all week
Speaker 9: I didn't think that the polls that people normally vote
Speaker 9: at were going to be busy at all. But yeah,
Speaker 9: they were stacked, man, I mean continuous, and I had
Speaker 9: a lot of people that were working to said, it
Speaker 9: was continuous, a little bit slow at different times because
Speaker 9: you know, people do have to work or things like that.
Speaker 9: But in the morning and at lunch time, and then
Speaker 9: after around dinner, people were coming home.
Speaker 10: From work and they hit those polls.
Speaker 9: Yeah, very very busy.
Speaker 10: Jim.
Speaker 5: How do you feel about overall election integrity here in Ohio?
Speaker 5: I think we've got such a good system here in Ohio,
Speaker 5: and I talk about it all the time that if
Speaker 5: you want to look at election integrity, Ohio is the
Speaker 5: place for other states to look. And you know, you
Speaker 5: were out at the polls all day today. I was
Speaker 5: cruising around different polling places. I didn't see any issues
Speaker 5: with that. During the course of the day. I didn't
Speaker 5: hear anyone talking about any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: And wouldn't it be great if the rest of the
Speaker 5: country would look at the way that we do things
Speaker 5: here exactly.
Speaker 9: You know, Hamilton County, their security system is unbelievable. I
Speaker 9: mean when you get out there, it'd be nice if
Speaker 9: they could to take a tour and actually have it
Speaker 9: on the news. Of course, you can't do that and
Speaker 9: show people how secure it really is in Hamilton County
Speaker 9: and you place a vote and basically that's what we
Speaker 9: have on our truck tonight. We have the ballots, they
Speaker 9: go back to the GOE and there is a computer
Speaker 9: chip and of course they put those in the machine.
Speaker 9: That's how Hamilton County gets their results so quick. Most
Speaker 9: of the time they know by well dependence of managers
Speaker 9: get those hips back. But eight thirty nine o'clock now,
Speaker 9: I think it's going to be a lot later than
Speaker 9: that tonight because of the heavy load. But yeah, the
Speaker 9: security around Hamilton County is very, very strong. In fact,
Speaker 9: we have a deputy watching our truck. We have twenty
Speaker 9: five trucks that do what I do, and there's twenty
Speaker 9: five deputies that are actually guarding our trucks because it's
Speaker 9: that important to make sure somebody doesn't just like pull
Speaker 9: us over and take the.
Speaker 6: Ballots and things like that.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So they do a pretty good job out here.
Speaker 4: So how many how many years have you been a
Speaker 4: truck commander for elections in Hamilton County?
Speaker 9: Jim, I guess five or six somewhere around there. I
Speaker 9: got involved in it when I retired, and not that
Speaker 9: I wasn't involved in the heavy politics stuff. You know,
Speaker 9: you know me better than that, and I just got
Speaker 9: involved in it, and I figured I could drive the truck,
Speaker 9: and because I used to drive a truck, of course,
Speaker 9: and everything worked out fine, and I got I got
Speaker 9: a really good crow crew crow. Adam Taylor. He wanted
Speaker 9: me to mention his name, so I mentioned your name, Adam.
Speaker 9: So there we go, all right. He had a nice
Speaker 9: lunch at pryce Ol Chili. Today.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, there you go. That's the place right there.
Speaker 4: So what do you do the rest of the evening?
Speaker 4: You say, you're kind of at a party here. This
Speaker 4: is the after party. Do you have any other work
Speaker 4: you have to do this evening?
Speaker 10: Jim?
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, when everybody, now seven thirty is over, and
Speaker 9: they start coming back here about eight thirty quarter nine
Speaker 9: with the ballots from twenty three precincts and we put
Speaker 9: them on a truck and we take them back out
Speaker 9: to the boe. And that's why they have that security,
Speaker 9: of course, to follow us out there. But once we
Speaker 9: get out there, we back into the dock, they pull
Speaker 9: the bags off and our night's over. Then the fun
Speaker 9: begins out at Hamblon County. They open them things up
Speaker 9: and they start, you know, checking and checking the paper
Speaker 9: ballots and goes from there.
Speaker 4: All right, well, I appreciate the update. I'm glad Adam
Speaker 4: Taylor got his shout out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't have lived it down if he's text
Speaker 9: me about three hundred times, you know how Adam is.
Speaker 9: And he said, please mention my name, but it's too late.
Speaker 9: Seven thirty. That was it.
Speaker 4: All right, fantastic, west Side. You keep it. You keep
Speaker 4: it straight on the west side for us, and we
Speaker 4: will check back if we need to.
Speaker 8: All right, well, thanks guys, you guys take.
Speaker 4: Care you too, west Side. Jim Keefer out on Neve
Speaker 4: Road the report from the front lines right there, the
Speaker 4: truck commander for election.
Speaker 5: Day, CNN is projecting Jim Justice will win the Senate
Speaker 5: in West Virginia, putting the Senate at fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: If that holds tonight and Trump wins, that gives the
Speaker 5: GOP control of the Senate.
Speaker 4: In the early results from North Carolina, President Trump is
Speaker 4: down to Kamala Harris like seventy to thirty. But it's
Speaker 4: like two percent reporting right in the tar Heel state,
Speaker 4: so that's they're not calling any races there. Florida looks
Speaker 4: like it's solidly in President Trump's camp At this point
Speaker 4: in the Ohio House in UH District thirteen, Coughlin is
Speaker 4: leading there. South Carolina with nine electoral votes, says Trump.
Speaker 4: Handley ahead as you would expect, only four percent of
Speaker 4: the vote in South Carolina, and Fox News is calling
Speaker 4: West Virginia for Trump. Now, all right, well again, that's
Speaker 4: kind of like one of those expected races. Again. Pennsylvania
Speaker 4: is going to be key in the presidential race in
Speaker 4: North Carolina too, By the way, they have already called
Speaker 4: that race, that governor's race in North Carolina that Rick
Speaker 4: Robinson was talking about in the Challenger. Mark Robinson, the
Speaker 4: Republican failed miserably because of whatever scandal that was. I
Speaker 4: wasn't even familiar with the scandal until he brought it up.
Speaker 4: But was it something about porners?
Speaker 5: There was and I don't I've not looked into all
Speaker 5: the details of it, but apparently there was some some
Speaker 5: report out there. I don't know if it's true or
Speaker 5: not that some computer he either owns or used to own,
Speaker 5: or was in his sistance, you know, his control, had
Speaker 5: had all these porn sites on it, or porn searches
Speaker 5: or something to do with porn, and you know, Mark Robinson.
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy preaches in a lot of churches. He's,
Speaker 5: you know, pretty hardcore holy roller supposed by Bible plumper,
Speaker 5: huge Trump advocate.
Speaker 4: The Republicans have flipped, as you mentioned, the Republicans have
Speaker 4: flipped one house in this one seat in the Senate,
Speaker 4: and they need the majority of fifty one. It's now
Speaker 4: forty to twenty nine Republicans. Democrats in the United States
Speaker 4: Senate need fifty one for majority, as you know, two
Speaker 4: eighteen for majority. In the House of Representatives, the Republicans
Speaker 4: have locked in four seats, but no flipped seats there.
Speaker 4: And that's what you'll want to watch as the evening
Speaker 4: goes on in the House of Representatives, is if the
Speaker 4: Democrats can get back the majority in the House.
Speaker 5: So we don't have final numbers yet obviously on the election,
Speaker 5: but you want to know what numbers are final, What
Speaker 5: the numbers on media coverage. MRC Research has its exclusive
Speaker 5: polling and and they look at that. They look at
Speaker 5: this all the time. So they have their final numbers
Speaker 5: for ABC, CBS and NBC.
Speaker 4: As far as favorable or unfavorable coverage, favorable college or
Speaker 4: coverage for Kamala Harris seventy eight percent favorable, twenty two
Speaker 4: percent negative, which to me that twenty two percent seems
Speaker 4: like a pretty big number.
Speaker 5: For a Democrat. Yes, yes, that's eighty that's a pretty
Speaker 5: big number. The numbers for Trump, what do you think
Speaker 5: as positive numbers were two two percent, fifteen percent fifteen
Speaker 5: percent and eighty five percent negative coverage. That's pretty much
Speaker 5: that that holds with what the media, usually the mainstream
Speaker 5: usually does in the coverage. It happened in the last
Speaker 5: couple of weeks, but a few weeks ago that number
Speaker 5: was just a little bit over ninety because this has
Speaker 5: been a you know, a moving number all all the
Speaker 5: way during the campaign. And at one point, remember when
Speaker 5: they were going into the debate, for ABC, ABC news
Speaker 5: coverage was one hundred percent negative, one hundred percent negative
Speaker 5: on Trump. And that's when Hillary came out and said
Speaker 5: that the media needs to do more to have negative
Speaker 5: coverage of Trump. So, I know, so one hundred percent
Speaker 5: ABC negative news.
Speaker 4: Coverage, one party is campaigning to have the media, you know,
Speaker 4: just their opponent. Then that tells you everything you need
Speaker 4: to know about that the bias in the mainstream legacy media.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent negative coverage MAYBC is
Speaker 5: not enough. And at that point the negative coverage of
Speaker 5: Trump was above ninety percent for all the major networks,
Speaker 5: and so she was still out there giving them hard.
Speaker 4: This is amazing, but you don't know where the votes
Speaker 4: are coming from. In North Carolina, Kamala Harris has a
Speaker 4: sixty eight percent to thirty seven percent lead or thirty
Speaker 4: percent lead over Donald thirty percent lead over Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: sixty eight to thirty two percent of the recincs of reporting.
Speaker 4: But you've got a figure that's Charlotte, and that's you know,
Speaker 4: it has to be major metropolitan Saturday, not western North Carolina,
Speaker 4: which is huge Trump still too early, still too early
Speaker 4: to call North Carolina, just for comparison's sake, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 4: let's compare. And we're not looking at the same candidates obviously,
Speaker 4: because Joe Biden is somewhere on life support in.
Speaker 5: The in the White House right now. You know, we
Speaker 5: are not going to see Joe Biden at all tonight.
Speaker 5: Oh well, they really haven't seen him much. And when
Speaker 5: we have seen him, he hasn't been doing any favors
Speaker 5: for Kamala Harris. But here, here are the numbers in
Speaker 5: the swing states. Which are so important to the outcome
Speaker 5: of the presidential election from twenty twenty. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: the Democrats i e.
Speaker 4: Joe Biden one Nevada fifty point six percent to forty
Speaker 4: seven point six seven percent for Donald Trump. In Arizona
Speaker 4: it was Biden's by just a I mean, gosh of
Speaker 4: follicle forty nine point four percent to forty nine percent.
Speaker 4: In Georgia it was even closer, forty nine point four
Speaker 4: to seven forty nine point twenty four for Trump. And
Speaker 4: remember that was those eleven twelve thousand votes that Donald
Speaker 4: Trump said, now find me these votes. I know they're
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: Michigan fifty point six percent to forty seven point eight
Speaker 4: percent Biden to Trump. In Wisconsin it was which of course,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen, and it's very possible
Speaker 4: Donald Trump could win Wisconsin tonight or in this election.
Speaker 4: It was forty nine point four to forty eight point eight.
Speaker 4: I mean it was point six percent of the vote.
Speaker 4: That was the difference. Pennsylvania fifty percent for Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: forty eight point eight percent for Donald Trump. Again, that's
Speaker 4: a state that could flip this time. Around four years later,
Speaker 4: in North Carolina. Donald Trump barely beat Joe Biden forty
Speaker 4: nine point nine three to forty eight point five nine
Speaker 4: in the early voting. It's just outrageously in favor of
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris though, be it it's only two or three percent.
Speaker 5: In actually, well, the number I'm looking at right now
Speaker 5: is actually less than two percent. Okay, so I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna hang my hat on.
Speaker 4: Georgia has twelve percent and Donald Trump is handily up.
Speaker 4: But you know, we that's probably not Fulton County, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at one here, fourteen point four to
Speaker 5: six percent, sixty three to thirty six percent favoring Trump.
Speaker 4: In Indiana's House. In Indiana's House race the ninth District, Houchin,
Speaker 4: the Republican is leading right now, Aaron Houchin. And Indiana's
Speaker 4: a solidly read state too for the most part, so
Speaker 4: it's not surprising that the Republicans would remain in control.
Speaker 4: But again, not just the presidency up up for graft,
Speaker 4: but the Senate and the House of Representatives nationally, and
Speaker 4: the issues in Ohio, uh, their redistricting amendment or the
Speaker 4: issue one on that, on that, talk about talk about
Speaker 4: what that actually was. You did earlier you talked about
Speaker 4: how it was so convoluted and so long an explanation
Speaker 4: of what people were voting on that nobody could figure
Speaker 4: out heads or tails on Issue one in Ohio. Well,
Speaker 4: I had on.
Speaker 5: I had on Adam Berg, who's a state rep from
Speaker 5: Claremont County who covers Claremont County, parts of New Richmond
Speaker 5: and part of Highland County and all that, and I
Speaker 5: had him on, and really, I guess it was probably,
Speaker 5: I don't know, five or six weeks ago was the
Speaker 5: first time I had him on to talk about Issue one,
Speaker 5: and I had not done a whole lot of work
Speaker 5: looking at Issue one and trying to understand what it was.
Speaker 5: And when I got into and when I do this,
Speaker 5: the first thing I do is I go to the
Speaker 5: ballot language. I don't like. I try not to look
Speaker 5: with the partisan stuff. I'd like to think that I
Speaker 5: can read the ballot language and figure out what we're
Speaker 5: voting on here. But you get into the minutia of
Speaker 5: this Issue one ballot language and talking about you know,
Speaker 5: it seems simple that on its face that oh, you're
Speaker 5: going to select five Republicans, five Democrats, and five independents
Speaker 5: to all come together and do this redistrict. But when
Speaker 5: you look at how these people have to be selected
Speaker 5: and where they have to be selected from, and then
Speaker 5: how the person is uh you know, a former judge
Speaker 5: or whoever it is that picks these people out, and
Speaker 5: you get into all these little details. I mean it.
Speaker 5: Then that's what I told them. I said that the
Speaker 5: devil really is in the details in that And and
Speaker 5: Cunningham makes the point that this thing, that this one
Speaker 5: issue is longer in words than the Constitution of the
Speaker 5: United States, so and how And they don't expect voters
Speaker 5: to read it.
Speaker 4: Not absolutely, it's not all about it's all about how
Speaker 4: they dress it up.
Speaker 5: But their commercials, yeah, are very effective, talking about all
Speaker 5: ye put the power power to the people, put the
Speaker 5: power back in the people. Well, no, it doesn't put
Speaker 5: the power in the people's end. If you read and
Speaker 5: again I read. I read the ballot language before I
Speaker 5: colored in my little box earlier today. It talks about
Speaker 5: how these people who are going to be selected to
Speaker 5: draw these maps. You don't as a citizen, you don't
Speaker 5: have any opportunity to interact with them. You don't have
Speaker 5: any rights to uh, to talk with them, to have
Speaker 5: your voice heard in front of them, unless it's a
Speaker 5: totally formal and controlled setting, controlled the way they want
Speaker 5: it to be controlled. And then the hundreds of millions
Speaker 5: of dollars that have come in from far left, hardcore
Speaker 5: left wing extremist groups, from San Francisco, from Washington, d c.
Speaker 5: From all manner of places outside the state of Ohio,
Speaker 5: that when you add up all those sorts of things,
Speaker 5: it just tells you, you know, yeah, I do. I
Speaker 5: do not want to vote in favor of this. We look,
Speaker 5: maybe the way districts are drawn in Ohio right now
Speaker 5: is not the best way, but this is certainly not
Speaker 5: an answer.
Speaker 4: Couldn't they just apportion the districts by population?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's it's look, it's the way it's
Speaker 5: the way the laws are written and talked about. You
Speaker 5: know how you've got to have, uh, you've got to
Speaker 5: have all those balance. It's suppose all this proportionality, all
Speaker 5: this balance you're supposed to have in all these different districts.
Speaker 4: Come on, Dan, you just said, you just said, it's
Speaker 4: as long as a constitution.
Speaker 5: Boil it down. Boil it down in a minute for me,
Speaker 5: go ahead, in a minute. That's my point. Is if
Speaker 5: if you've got all this hardcore left wing money coming
Speaker 5: in from out of state, that should be a clue
Speaker 5: to a red flag that it's probably something that's best
Speaker 5: for them and not something that's best for you.
Speaker 4: And that you go from politicians jerrymandering the district to
Speaker 4: other people jerrymandering the district to their interest and and
Speaker 4: and it's an unelected, unaccountable group of people that this will.
Speaker 5: Yeah and put to task and you sign, you just
Speaker 5: criticize them, and you sign your your right away to
Speaker 5: have any influence over that group right right now. It's
Speaker 5: the party in power that draws the map. Okay, so uh,
Speaker 5: when if you got a bunch of Democrats that are
Speaker 5: drawing the map, guess what, You're gonna have a bunch
Speaker 5: of Republicans that don't like. If you have a bunch
Speaker 5: of Republicans that draw them map, then you're gonna have
Speaker 5: a bunch of Democrats don't like. And they can take
Speaker 5: it to court all day long, which is what they do.
Speaker 5: And then and then the court comes back and says, oh,
Speaker 5: you're going to do it again. You gotta do it again.
Speaker 5: But they look, I don't know if there's a better
Speaker 5: way to fix it.
Speaker 4: But this is certainly not the way. The North Carolina
Speaker 4: vote is not moving at all. It's says in three
Speaker 4: percent sixty eight point two for Kamala Harrison, thirty point
Speaker 4: seven percent for President Trump. We will continue to watch
Speaker 4: it all as we go through the evening. It's seven
Speaker 4: fifty five. Election coverage continues on the Big One, seven
Speaker 4: hundred WL up. Lady's crazy there and Anderson Townships. And
Speaker 4: you told me he had walk up.
Speaker 5: This is his walk He's one of the really the
Speaker 5: only guests I have that has his own walk up music.
Speaker 4: I think this is a band called Romeo Void. Never
Speaker 4: say never. I played this when it was new. Every
Speaker 4: time I say that when a song comes on the
Speaker 4: radio and my wife goes, well, I listened to it
Speaker 4: when it was new, I said, I know I was
Speaker 4: talking to twelve year olds like you at the time.
Speaker 4: Andrew Pappas, good evening, and thank you for joining us
Speaker 4: for a few minutes.
Speaker 6: How are you, gentlemen, good evening, Thank you for having me,
Speaker 6: How are you well?
Speaker 4: Thank you for being had?
Speaker 5: We're good, Andrew, you had you had a long day
Speaker 5: out at the at all the polling places on the
Speaker 5: East Side of town give us a report from the
Speaker 5: front lines.
Speaker 6: Well, I will say this.
Speaker 13: You mentioned you were talking about the efficiency of the
Speaker 13: vote here in Ohio, and I have to second that
Speaker 13: some minor hiccups here and there, But here in at
Speaker 13: least in Anderson Township.
Speaker 6: Everything was went well. We didn't have any major.
Speaker 13: Kerfruffles, other than some minor skirmishes with Democrats over their
Speaker 13: interpretation of rules and procedures outside the polls. But besides that,
Speaker 13: I had a minor discussion with a current state rep
Speaker 13: running for reelection regarding a placement of signs at the
Speaker 13: polling location. They didn't like the fact that I put
Speaker 13: the effort and energy into having a very professional and
Speaker 13: well done, well manned polling location. They tried to recreate
Speaker 13: that with some yard signs, which is usually not allowed
Speaker 13: on school property. And so anyway, besides that, everything went well.
Speaker 13: But I do Gary Jeff brought up a great point.
Speaker 13: You know, although the elections are the responsibility of each
Speaker 13: state legislature and not a federal.
Speaker 6: Issue, it would be nice if maybe there could.
Speaker 13: Be a conference of the states after every election, Maybe
Speaker 13: get the some official from the state to meet with
Speaker 13: of every state together to discuss what works and what
Speaker 13: doesn't work, you know, not necessarily establish a federal guideline.
Speaker 13: I would not be in favor of that, but you know,
Speaker 13: it doesn't take a rocket scientist to say our system
Speaker 13: works in euro just doesn't. I mean, it's not a
Speaker 13: question of pride, it's just a question of fact. And
Speaker 13: it would be nice if there was some meeting of
Speaker 13: the minds. Gary, Jeff, You're in Kentucky, and I saw
Speaker 13: some reports of touch screens not registering correctly in Kentucky.
Speaker 6: So I just think it would be nice.
Speaker 13: If it's twenty twenty four, we're the United States of America.
Speaker 13: Is there's some damned reason other than ranking competence or
Speaker 13: maybe on purpose, that we don't have a better uniform
Speaker 13: or at least widely adopted voting system here in the
Speaker 13: United States of America.
Speaker 4: Well, Andrew Pappus, how is it that in the nineteen
Speaker 4: sixties and nineteen seventies, when we were dealing mostly with
Speaker 4: paper ballots hand counted that we didn't have all of
Speaker 4: the issues we have here. And I know you go
Speaker 4: back to the nineteen sixty presidential election, which was reportedly
Speaker 4: stolen from Richard Nixon by the Democrats and mayor daily
Speaker 4: in Chicago, pushing John F. Kennedy Junior or John F.
Speaker 4: Kennedy over the top. And we've had some questions before
Speaker 4: about election integrity in this country, but nothing like we've
Speaker 4: seen going back to two thousand in Florida with the
Speaker 4: hanging chads and the recounts and the court fights. And
Speaker 4: I think that was the real beginning of our election. Well,
Speaker 4: how can I say this election dysfunction are ed is
Speaker 4: a country? We but you've all got that, I mean,
Speaker 4: speak for yourself now, I mean I don't take any medication.
Speaker 4: I'm fine anyway, Okay, sure, but but we have this
Speaker 4: election dysfunction going back to well the last twenty years
Speaker 4: or so, it seems. And uh, and it seems like
Speaker 4: the more technology has advanced, the more convoluted and hard
Speaker 4: to discern it's become.
Speaker 13: Do you see that, There's no there's absolutely there's no question.
Speaker 13: Now you can make the argument that, you know, maybe
Speaker 13: the wrong numbers of voters has increased exponentially as participation
Speaker 13: rates have increased, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 13: the technology has far outpaced that. And you know, we
Speaker 13: saw reports today of polling locations now having to be
Speaker 13: kept open later because of abnormalities I saw.
Speaker 6: I believe it was in.
Speaker 13: Georgia they had recount or to the recount of thirty
Speaker 13: thousand ballots because the tally machine was unlocked and nobody
Speaker 13: noticed the door was open.
Speaker 3: It's just, it's just, it's it.
Speaker 6: And listen, this is.
Speaker 13: Bad for our country, no matter what the result is,
Speaker 13: because election integrity is key to our form of government.
Speaker 13: And I think that what happens is is when people
Speaker 13: question the integrity of the election, then you know, you
Speaker 13: get the you get the impression that your vote doesn't count,
Speaker 13: which isn't which there's nothing further from the truth, and
Speaker 13: participation rates go down and then sadly we get the
Speaker 13: government we deserve.
Speaker 6: And that's not good.
Speaker 13: So I would like to see a movement. I do
Speaker 13: not think that the let me fair. I don't think
Speaker 13: the federal government is the answer here. However, we have
Speaker 13: the way our system of government is set up. We
Speaker 13: have fifty individual pest beds of doing things, and the
Speaker 13: things that work should rise to the top, and other
Speaker 13: states should then emulate what works and discard what.
Speaker 6: Does doesn't work. And that's my point.
Speaker 13: And I don't see a big movement, and I don't
Speaker 13: see a big call from anybody in office, out of office.
Speaker 6: Or anywhere. Now, maybe I'm not looking in the right.
Speaker 13: Place to adopt a study of what works and what
Speaker 13: doesn't work. You mentioned Florida with the hanging Chad's bush.
Speaker 13: B Gore, Yes, and no one can forget, no one
Speaker 13: can fare to get the gentleman that was made famous
Speaker 13: by him holding the ballot up to the light trying
Speaker 13: to see, you know what if there was a dimple
Speaker 13: on the chad or not.
Speaker 6: I remember the guy's clear as day.
Speaker 4: Well he had those He had those coke bottled glasses too.
Speaker 5: Head and his eyes were spinning around in different directions
Speaker 5: too at the same time.
Speaker 4: He was amazing.
Speaker 5: But you know, Andrew, as we speak, and you know,
Speaker 5: Florida has eighty eight percent of their vote in already,
Speaker 5: so which is absolutely amazing. Give me one or two
Speaker 5: things that you're going to be looking at tonight or
Speaker 5: looking forward tonight as as the results come out and
Speaker 5: we closer to two hundred and seventy electoral votes for
Speaker 5: one of these candidates.
Speaker 13: Well, you know, I think the sentiment tonight and I'll
Speaker 13: answer that here in a second, But I think the centem.
Speaker 6: I think the entire country feels like it's in the.
Speaker 13: Waiting room of a doctor's office and they just got
Speaker 13: tested for an STD called kamala idio and they're.
Speaker 6: Waiting to see the results.
Speaker 4: So what is what is the name of that malady again, Andrew, kamala.
Speaker 13: Idiot, kmala idio?
Speaker 4: I got to write that down, But yeah, that'll that'll definitely,
Speaker 4: that will definitely give you an election dysfunction.
Speaker 13: Yeah so, but given given that, what am I looking
Speaker 13: for tonight? Listen, I'm I'm hopeful that we did Ohio Listen,
Speaker 13: I am. I am only control my very small sphere
Speaker 13: of influence, and I think the Ohio Republican Party did
Speaker 13: a great job here in the state to try to
Speaker 13: get Bernie Marino to kick shared Bryan Brown.
Speaker 6: Out of office.
Speaker 13: Some may be watching that race very closely, and then locally,
Speaker 13: I think that the most most important race that I'm
Speaker 13: going to be watching is obviously Melissa Powers versus Pelletr
Speaker 13: for prosecutor. Those are things that affect my life directly,
Speaker 13: I'm afraid to say, I am not I do not
Speaker 13: plan on trying to remain awake watching any news to
Speaker 13: see their update to tell me they still don't know anything,
Speaker 13: because I really feel this won't be decided.
Speaker 6: At any time tonight because of the very anomalies we've
Speaker 6: been discussing.
Speaker 13: Parylvania has I believe there is a precinct in Pennsylvania
Speaker 13: from what I heard earlier reporting that was a Trump stronghold.
Speaker 4: That the voting got delayed, and now they.
Speaker 13: Have to stay the polls stay open because of anomalies,
Speaker 13: and now the poles in that precinct, which is a
Speaker 13: very heavy Trump area, have to stay open un till
Speaker 13: ten PM.
Speaker 6: So it's crud like that.
Speaker 13: It's going to keep me from feeling confident or wanting
Speaker 13: to even attempt to stay up this evening and try
Speaker 13: to watch this Shenanigan's going on. And it's frustrating because
Speaker 13: of the very thing you said twenty twenty four were
Speaker 13: the United States of America. You know, maybe Elon Musk
Speaker 13: could put his brain power to inventing a better system
Speaker 13: and sell it to the states other than what they've
Speaker 13: been sold so far.
Speaker 4: Indeed, and when you're talking about Pennsylvania, which does not
Speaker 4: look fantastic right now for Donald Trump and gosh, the Senate,
Speaker 4: you know you've been talking about this, this race in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 4: the Senate McCormick versus the incumbent Bob Casey, and it's
Speaker 4: like a seventy to thirty split right now. And all
Speaker 4: of the pollings said this was a really close race
Speaker 4: that McCormick was closing in on Casey there, and it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be close in the presidential election in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: But you mentioned the because of the abnormalty or anomalies
Speaker 4: in the certain districts that are heavy Trump districts, they're
Speaker 4: going to be delaying those. Arizona, the State of Arizona,
Speaker 4: the Secretary State of Arizona about a week and a
Speaker 4: half ago said that they didn't expect to have final
Speaker 4: results in Arizona for ten to twelve days after tonight.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, that's not ridiculous though, well wait, wait, that's
Speaker 5: not only crazy and ridiculous, that's absolutely unconscionable.
Speaker 13: You should be the election official that the agency in
Speaker 13: charge of elections there, whether it be appointed by the
Speaker 13: legislators or whomever, should be fired. I mean that's instead,
Speaker 13: they should be fired and replace ten to twelve What
Speaker 13: did you say, ten to twelve days?
Speaker 4: Ten to twelve days after election day is what they
Speaker 4: guestimated when they would have a final full count that
Speaker 4: they could certify. That's totally unacceptable. That should be totally it's.
Speaker 13: Unacceptable and it should not be tolerated by either side,
Speaker 13: by Democrats or Republicans. We need, you know, we need
Speaker 13: a system. As you said, we discussed Florida eighty eight percent.
Speaker 13: You know, Florida has a lot of people, and they
Speaker 13: managed to get their results eighty eight percent in within
Speaker 13: an hour of closing the.
Speaker 4: Party electoral votes in Florida.
Speaker 1: Correct. Correct.
Speaker 13: So I'm I'm I'm at some point we all can
Speaker 13: agree we have a problem. When are we going to
Speaker 13: agree to address and fix the problem. That's my question.
Speaker 13: That's a big question. I thought that you know, you
Speaker 13: you raised a great point. Florida bushby Gore was the
Speaker 13: beginning of saying, hey, things aren't working.
Speaker 6: We need to fix this.
Speaker 13: And you know, COVID threw a bunch of anomalies into
Speaker 13: the system, for sure because of the mail end ballots.
Speaker 6: But we've gotten away from that.
Speaker 13: I've read that I haven't seen the latest numbers, but
Speaker 13: they guestimated in Hamilton County here we were at sixty
Speaker 13: seven plus or minus percent vote participation.
Speaker 6: That's mildly upsetting to me. I'd like to see more
Speaker 6: than that.
Speaker 13: But I just wish that other states would say, have
Speaker 13: the cojones to say.
Speaker 6: What we're doing doesn't work. We're embarrassed by it.
Speaker 13: I would be completely embarrassed if I was the election
Speaker 13: officials in Arizona, and I would say, you know what,
Speaker 13: I obviously I'm unqualified for this job.
Speaker 6: I'll go work somewhere else.
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe you know, no disrespect, but maybe they should be,
Speaker 13: you know, sorting the mail or over at the TSA.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Are you are? Are you still you still have your
Speaker 4: what kind of business? Does Andrew have a dry cleaning?
Speaker 4: I had had?
Speaker 13: I am, I am now completely and utterly and partially
Speaker 13: and happily retired.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's retired now just to enjoin the f I
Speaker 4: had a. I had a. I had a few pieces
Speaker 4: that I wanted done and figured I could.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
Speaker 13: I appreciate that, and you know what, knowing that I
Speaker 13: might run out and reopen my store. However, that means
Speaker 13: plenty of places I could recommend.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Jerry Jeffers cash, it's cash upfront. By the way,
Speaker 5: so cash is king, Baby, I'm a bartender. What are
Speaker 5: you talking about anyway? Andrew, what were you going to say?
Speaker 13: I'm just I'm just hope everybody would agree, whether you're
Speaker 13: Republican or Democrat, at the end of the day, seeing
Speaker 13: what's going on nationally, put pressure on your legislatures in
Speaker 13: your states that this is not working. If you had
Speaker 13: anomalies in Kentucky, call up your state legislators and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 13: I don't know what kind of deal was worked with
Speaker 13: this system, but it's obviously got its issues. Can we
Speaker 13: go back to some other system that doesn't have these
Speaker 13: technological technology? Technology is not always the answer. Can we
Speaker 13: go back to something maybe a bit simpler, that works
Speaker 13: and doesn't have When I push here, it shows up
Speaker 13: there or in other states that you know, we have
Speaker 13: to stay open for ten or twelve days to count
Speaker 13: the votes. That's my only point. I hope that as
Speaker 13: a country we can agree on that. I will tell
Speaker 13: you this, gentlemen. I came home tonight from the polls,
Speaker 13: and you know what I is. The first thing I did, well,
Speaker 13: I'm tired. I'm genuinely tired. I took the time and
Speaker 13: I removed the yard signs from my yard because now
Speaker 13: the election's over and I want to get back to
Speaker 13: some normal.
Speaker 6: Left and TV use.
Speaker 4: I thought you just touched a major nerve with me. Andrew.
Speaker 4: I can't stand it when people leave the signs up
Speaker 4: days weeks after the election. It's like, absolutely, you're right.
Speaker 4: Like I started tonight, I said, the campaign is over,
Speaker 4: you know, and the results are coming in, and we're
Speaker 4: here to report the results. And Dan and I know
Speaker 4: what we'd like to see happen, but the campaign's over.
Speaker 4: I appreciate your help tonight, and thanks for chiming in
Speaker 4: with your expertise and your experience, and and I would
Speaker 4: join you in that call for us to get it
Speaker 4: together as a nation when it comes to election day.
Speaker 4: We used to have it together. What happened? I don't know,
Speaker 4: all right, Andrew, and thank you very much. We move
Speaker 4: along on this election night, Gary jeff and Dan Carroll,
Speaker 4: and the results keep coming in seven hundred WLW for
Speaker 4: Hamilton County Prosecutor Gary Jeffin Carroll on election night on
Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW, Dan, why don't you introduce our next guest.
Speaker 5: Our next guest is the president of the Conservative Caucus.
Speaker 5: He's been a great, great guest on my show, and
Speaker 5: at one time was the chief of staff for one
Speaker 5: of your favorite members of Congress, my representative Thomas Representative
Speaker 5: Thomas Massey.
Speaker 4: Who was unopposed in this reelection as well. He should
Speaker 4: be exactly nobody's better than Thomas Massey. Jim Faff, good
Speaker 4: evening and welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me, And yes, it was an honor
Speaker 7: to work for Thomas.
Speaker 3: He is the bomb. He is. He's really great.
Speaker 7: So love Northern Kentucky and as the native Hoosier myself,
Speaker 7: it's always great to be on with y'all. As I
Speaker 7: grew up as Dan Nose with WLW and Reds, Baseball
Speaker 7: and sports are consequences, so this is always one of
Speaker 7: my favorite places to be.
Speaker 4: So what are you doing these days as President of
Speaker 4: the Conservative Caucus, Jim?
Speaker 7: So, we're building out and react re expanding a build
Speaker 7: out of our grassroots network nationwide. We were founded in
Speaker 7: nineteen seventy four by Howard Phillips, an icon of the
Speaker 7: conservative movement, and I came on in the beginning of
Speaker 7: the year they were looking for some new leadership. We've
Speaker 7: just been finished up about eight million dollars of Trump
Speaker 7: independent expenditures around the country, mostly in the targeted states,
Speaker 7: and we're just making people aware of how they can
Speaker 7: be effective at the local level to actually change politics.
Speaker 3: So I'm bringing over thirty years of.
Speaker 7: Experience in both grassroots politics as a general consultant for
Speaker 7: a while to.
Speaker 3: Try to help people get things done.
Speaker 5: So, Jim, a couple of days ago, you made a
Speaker 5: very bold prediction your on your X feed and you
Speaker 5: were looking at worst case scenario two hundred and ninety
Speaker 5: one electoral votes for Trump. Pretty bold prediction right there.
Speaker 5: Tell me why you feel that way and base based
Speaker 5: on even though it's still early, what we've seen so
Speaker 5: far tonight, how do you see things going and are
Speaker 5: they going in that direction?
Speaker 3: In full disclosure, I am a human being.
Speaker 7: I don't know everything, but I've been handicapping these things
Speaker 7: for a long time and I've missed it a few times.
Speaker 7: But I predicate this upon two particular states going trumpsway Pennsylvania,
Speaker 7: which I think actually may end up going solidly his
Speaker 7: way based upon numbers that I'm seeing. I'm connected with
Speaker 7: Scott Pressler and Foot Maloney who have built out this
Speaker 7: massive voter registration and get out the vote Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable job there. Yeah, well, so far Philadelphia, Philadelphia, and
Speaker 4: Alleghany the fifteen and thirty percent respectively. And in Pennsylvania
Speaker 4: there's a solid Harris lead right now, but it's way early.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is because Alleghany and Philadelphia counties are
Speaker 7: coming in. Those are obviously heavily Democrat. But we've seen
Speaker 7: massive upsurgeon voter registration in that county as well. And
Speaker 7: I made my prediction before this data, but in that
Speaker 7: county as well, the early vote firewall in twenty twenty
Speaker 7: was somewhere between one point two and one.
Speaker 3: Point five million for Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: It's only about four hundred thousand for Kamala Harris right now.
Speaker 7: And Republican voter voter output and early voting is actually
Speaker 7: very very good. We're seeing long lines even today, I'm
Speaker 7: getting reports from there. So I think, I mean, my
Speaker 7: belief is that Donald Trump's going to win Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 7: I also believe he's going to win Nevada, where you
Speaker 7: always wonder if the SEIU is going to steal it
Speaker 7: so to speak, or you know, to do a massive
Speaker 7: turnout down in Clark County. But I believe that that
Speaker 7: the numbers.
Speaker 3: At least in my mind, indicate that he's going to
Speaker 3: get that.
Speaker 7: And of course I got him with Arizona and Georgia
Speaker 7: and North Carolina also in his column, So that's why,
Speaker 7: and that's how you get there. But I think he
Speaker 7: could do much better than that.
Speaker 5: What do you make so far of what Wattley and
Speaker 5: Laura Trump have been doing so far? We've been talking
Speaker 5: a lot tonight about voter integrity, and I mean I'm
Speaker 5: looking at some of the stuff that Wattley's been putting
Speaker 5: out over the last few hours, and I mean, this
Speaker 5: guy is trying to stay on top and any irregularity
Speaker 5: that he's seeing out there, they're responding to it right away.
Speaker 5: Is that going to be enough to make a difference tonight, Well.
Speaker 3: We'll have to see.
Speaker 7: I think there's a lot we don't know about, but
Speaker 7: one and and I'll also add to that your observations correct,
Speaker 7: Watley does seem to be at least up on these
Speaker 7: big things that have been taking place. Mike Davis of
Speaker 7: the Article three project was also praising him, and I
Speaker 7: trust Mike's judgment as well.
Speaker 3: I'm not close to Wattley, but.
Speaker 7: But you know, there's possibly some things we don't know about,
Speaker 7: but there is in this who kind of remember something.
Speaker 7: People on the Republican conservative, pro Trump side of things,
Speaker 7: they're going to be looking like hawks because they're already
Speaker 7: very worried about what may have happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: I know in Pennsylvania that's one of the things that
Speaker 7: Cliff Maloney and Scott.
Speaker 3: Kreshler have added. And there's results.
Speaker 7: Because I've been on x spaces where they were documenting
Speaker 7: some things live and then just talking to the people that.
Speaker 3: Are on the ground around there.
Speaker 7: So I feel relatively certain that we'll be able to
Speaker 7: do some work to stop any problems. But you know,
Speaker 7: something big can show up, and I really do believe
Speaker 7: we've got in fact my organization. Over the next two years,
Speaker 7: we're going to spend a lot of time on election
Speaker 7: integrity because the way we do elections, this is Mark
Speaker 7: Elias's election, the Democrat lawyer Mark Elias. We run Mark
Speaker 7: Olias elections. We don't run American elections and we run
Speaker 7: Democrat elections. We don't run American elections doing all this
Speaker 7: massive mail voting. So we're going to have to change that,
Speaker 7: and therefore there's always a chance for a big problem that.
Speaker 3: I that we may not be able to anticipate.
Speaker 4: Well, I hope that you get some good sleep tonight,
Speaker 4: if that's possible, and uh, I hope that we wake
Speaker 4: up tomorrow with some positive results. Jim Faff, president of
Speaker 4: the Conservative Caucus, former chief of staff from my congressman
Speaker 4: in the fourth District in Kentucky, Thomas Massey. That I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even I've never talked to you before, Jim,
Speaker 4: but that instantly makes you one of my favorite people.
Speaker 4: That you work so closely with Thomas.
Speaker 7: You are you don't you do know how blessed you
Speaker 7: are to have Thomas. Oh, I do as your stay rep.
Speaker 7: And so yeah, that's glad to be on And I
Speaker 7: love the big one WLW.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, always on your side. So just
Speaker 3: call pall me any time.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad that he great work, Jim, thank you
Speaker 5: very much. Great talking with to you, brother.
Speaker 4: And uh, a little bit closer to home, how about
Speaker 4: one of our favorite people. I know that he's one
Speaker 4: of yours and he always has been one of the
Speaker 4: little class to the show tonight, Huh exactly. And you
Speaker 4: can't get classier than Christopher Smitherman smithers, how you doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing well. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Fantastic? So, so where are you right now?
Speaker 1: I am at home, all right, at home.
Speaker 4: Good. I know you had a long election today. Give
Speaker 4: us a report from the front line.
Speaker 1: Well, look, this election is going to come down to
Speaker 1: which we are and this is not going to be
Speaker 1: rocket science like Georgia North Carolina. It's going to come
Speaker 1: down to places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. That's where
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to. And so as we
Speaker 1: look at Georgia right now, those races are are too
Speaker 1: close to call. But what I will what I will
Speaker 1: say is to me, it looks like Georgia is breaking
Speaker 1: for Trump right now. And so you know, Pennsylvania has
Speaker 1: already indicated from their governor. Governor Shapiro says, we might
Speaker 1: not have the results for four days. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we can't count votes, you know and give us
Speaker 1: you know, same day. So I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: into that, but I can tell you, so far as
Speaker 1: you and I are having the conversation, there have been
Speaker 1: no surprises right Ohio. They haven't called it. It's going
Speaker 1: to go to Trump. Kentucky and Indiana have already gone
Speaker 1: to Trump. You know, Vermont has already gone to the
Speaker 1: Harris team. There's nothing on the scoreboard that anybody is
Speaker 1: surprised as we're having this conversation. What is interesting is
Speaker 1: is when you dive down into the Georgia numbers, a
Speaker 1: lot of votes out of Atlanta have been counted, and
Speaker 1: so now you're seeing those rural parts of Georgia starting
Speaker 1: to weigh in. This could be a very interesting rate
Speaker 1: and I would say if Trump wins Georgia, very very
Speaker 1: dangerous for the Harris campaign. If he wins Nevada, very
Speaker 1: very dangerous for the Harrison campaign, because what it's saying
Speaker 1: here is that voters out there are saying they don't
Speaker 1: trust This is important. They don't trust the media. I
Speaker 1: mean mainstream media. The mainstream media has been saying all
Speaker 1: kinds of things, guys for a long time, over the
Speaker 1: last six months. And so what's on the ballot right
Speaker 1: now is mainstream media is on the ballot as well
Speaker 1: as this election itself. And so people have gone off grid,
Speaker 1: meaning they've gone into the influencers, They've gone onto all
Speaker 1: kinds of social network platforms. For this election. That is
Speaker 1: going to be very very interesting to me. So I'm
Speaker 1: watching Georgia very very very closely. Obviously, I think the
Speaker 1: hurricane is gonna impact here. I think Lake and Riley
Speaker 1: is going to be impacting in Georgia. Please don't go
Speaker 1: to sleep on that. They had a young lady on
Speaker 1: a college campus jogging killed by somebody who should not
Speaker 1: have been in our country. And so a lot of
Speaker 1: Georgia people are thinking about that. And we know that
Speaker 1: that state only only went to Biden by twelve thousand
Speaker 1: or so votes. So watch Georgia very very closely. If
Speaker 1: they called Georgia for Trump, the Harris campaign is in trouble.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it makes her pathway much harder to get
Speaker 1: to that two seventy nine.
Speaker 4: It may come down. It may come down to it
Speaker 4: may come down to Pennsylvania. It really may. And that
Speaker 4: is that scares the heck out of me, Chris, because
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, we may not know for a couple
Speaker 4: of days how the Keystone state has gone. Uh North Carolina,
Speaker 4: they're still waiting on results from rural counties that are
Speaker 4: heavily for Donald Trump. I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 4: these local races. I don't. I don't see any reason
Speaker 4: why other than party affiliation, why Melissa Powers isn't cleaning
Speaker 4: up in the prosecutor's race in Hamilton County. I just
Speaker 4: she's running against a person who at one time lost
Speaker 4: their law law license, is not known as being strong
Speaker 4: on crime and uh and you know, dealing out justice
Speaker 4: to criminals in county pillage. She doesn't have that in
Speaker 4: her background. And yet in the early voting county pillages ahead.
Speaker 1: So I think what you're going to see is that
Speaker 1: race is going to get a lot closer. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you as I talked to voters, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats who were voting for Prosecutor Melissa Powers.
Speaker 1: And I think you're going to see some of that
Speaker 1: as Heildon County, which is, as you all know, is
Speaker 1: a very very big county, and as those more rural
Speaker 1: counties start the weigh in, you'll see them going with Powers.
Speaker 1: The other thing I will share with you is there
Speaker 1: were so many traditionalists, you know, who approached me to
Speaker 1: say I'm only voting on election day, even though there
Speaker 1: was this big push to bank. I think you're going
Speaker 1: to see those ballots are now in trucks they're making
Speaker 1: their way to Norwood. They have not been counted, So
Speaker 1: those bags are on trucks and they're making it over
Speaker 1: to Norwood. They're being taken off trucks right now as
Speaker 1: you and I talk, and I think you're going to
Speaker 1: see those rule everything. You're going to see those numbers
Speaker 1: come in much closer. For Melissa Powers. I think she
Speaker 1: might pull this thing out. It'll be very very very
Speaker 1: very close. But I tell you those same things. I
Speaker 1: don't disagree that Pennsylvania is going to be a play.
Speaker 1: But if Georgia breaks with former President Trump because of
Speaker 1: the twelve thousand vote difference four years ago, that's incredibly
Speaker 1: dangerous for the Harris campaign because what's going to indicate
Speaker 1: with a city that has such a high population of
Speaker 1: African Americans that African Americans in there, meaning it would
Speaker 1: have to mean that the Trump campaign did much better
Speaker 1: in their performance with African Americans across the country. So
Speaker 1: not just that state, it's how well did he do
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania when they started counting Pittsburgh votes and that
Speaker 1: then would I think that's going to be a tidal
Speaker 1: way for the Harris campaign.
Speaker 5: Chris, this campaign has gotten extremely nasty in a lot
Speaker 5: of different areas. And over the last couple of days,
Speaker 5: I've heard so much talk about you know, the you know,
Speaker 5: whoever the winner is, the country's got to come back
Speaker 5: together and and unite and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Did do you see any issues with that? Do you
Speaker 5: see that happening after this particular campaign? How do how
Speaker 5: do Americans put that behind them and then uh, all
Speaker 5: work towards what is hopefully the best thing for the country.
Speaker 1: It is really going to be about the tone that
Speaker 1: the winner says tonight, because I think we'll have a
Speaker 1: winner tonight, and and the and the concession speech of reconciliation.
Speaker 1: I'm conceding the election. All of that is going to
Speaker 1: be incredibly important. So you can't have somebody like you know,
Speaker 1: the president, the current the president of the United States,
Speaker 1: who called anybody who supported Trump garbage. You can't have
Speaker 1: that kind of language at all tonight. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's going to be all based on the concession and
Speaker 1: it's all going to be based on the winners language
Speaker 1: of how they try to unite.
Speaker 4: You do it, You do, in fact believe we're gonna
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a winner called tonight in the presidential election.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think we will have a
Speaker 1: winner tonight. I think that I think that Pennsylvania as
Speaker 1: they're counting these votes, as I'm looking at Georgia, if
Speaker 1: they were to call Georgia and then you see these
Speaker 1: areas that were hit by the hurricane where they say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going with former President Trump, I think that's incredibly dangerous. Michigan,
Speaker 1: as you know in Dearborn, right, we're looking very closely
Speaker 1: at Dearborn. All this other stuff is NOI we already
Speaker 1: know what Detroit's gonna do. But if if the Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern community, middle Eastern Americans say, you know what, they
Speaker 1: decided that we want to go with Trump, I'm sharing
Speaker 1: with you. If they call Michigan tonight for Trump, you
Speaker 1: only have to win one of those Michigan or Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that they'll start calling the election. You
Speaker 1: see the one to eleven already at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's the two seventy number.
Speaker 4: Chris Wee.
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to say, let me say one
Speaker 1: more quick scene quick. This is about the popular vote
Speaker 1: and the electoral vote. So people say, well, why is
Speaker 1: he in New York? Why is he there. He's trying
Speaker 1: to win vote. He's trying to win the electoral vote
Speaker 1: and the and the popular vote. So we had a mandate.
Speaker 4: Chris calling Chris Smitherman, thank you so much as always brother,
Speaker 4: Always great to hear your voice. Dan, thank you. Rocky
Speaker 4: Boyman is just on the other side of nine o'clock.
Speaker 4: And we'll see if Christopher Smithman is prophetic with his
Speaker 4: proclaimed proclaimant that Donald Trump or someone Kamala Harris one
Speaker 4: or the other will be named our next press election
Speaker 4: coverage all night long the seven hundred WLW I.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the