WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.679 Both is made and cast. 2 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.799 This is full blown all American election night covering. 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:08.199 That's a long step up from Tyranny. 4 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:15.000 Oh yeah, national and federal results. Prepare for a Yankee 5 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:16.000 Dudo evening. 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.719 This is going to be a flag waving production. 7 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.719 Welcome to Democracy's Big Night, Democracy Show playing on the 8 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:33.479 Nation station. All this is Election Day seven hundred l Delas. 9 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.359 I'm thinking to myself, there are parts of me that 10 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:40.799 wish that I wake up tomorrow morning and the last 11 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:45.000 four years was just a bad dream, Like when Oh 12 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.920 Bobby ewingutch Or Jr. Got shot on Dallas, Gary Jeff 13 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.719 Walker and Dan Carroll on Election Night twenty twenty four, 14 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.560 after what I believe has been a four year campaign 15 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.079 for President of the United States of America, because it 16 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.879 all began, This campaign totally began, especially for the Republicans 17 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.920 and Donald Trump, when it was announced that Joe Biden 18 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.640 had been certified as President of the United States. And 19 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.079 tonight we sit on the precipice of another decision. Tonight 20 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.159 is all about results and decision. We're not going to 21 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.280 have a whole lot of results between now on nine o'clock, 22 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.719 but you never know. We could be gladly surprised or 23 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.439 sadly surprised. It is no secret to those of you 24 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:30.959 who listen to us on a regular basis here on 25 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.920 seven hundred WLW that Dan and I have definite opinions 26 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:36.439 about who we would like to win. But it's not 27 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:43.480 about campaigning tonight. It's about assessing the campaign, and it's 28 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.760 about where we go from here and how do we 29 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.719 get there. Of course, the electoral college count that counts 30 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.200 as two seventy. If it hits two sixty nine a piece, 31 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.840 which is a remote possibility but a probability as close 32 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:03.159 as all of the pundits and polls say it is, 33 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.319 then it would go to the House of Representatives. You 34 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.080 thought twenty twenty was a mess. I can't even imagine 35 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:16.360 that scenario, especially if the Democrats retain or get back 36 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.280 control of the House of Representatives, which we will also 37 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.199 find out, probably sooner than we know, who is going 38 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.000 to be the next president, either the former president Donald 39 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.639 Trump or the current Vice President Kamala Harris. Dan Carroll, 40 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:30.840 it's great to be with you tonight. It's a very 41 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.599 exciting night. But don't you kind of wish it was 42 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.319 all just a bad dream The last four years. 43 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.919 You know this is the super Bowl. It's all been 44 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.879 leading to this. I know I wish that Joe Biden 45 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:47.240 would never have been elected president. I don't think I 46 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.599 still to this day, do not believe that he was 47 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:53.039 rightly elected president. I think there was a lot of 48 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.240 shenanigans that went on with a twenty twenty election. But 49 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.439 we know we're not here to relitigate that, although if 50 00:02:58.479 --> 00:02:59.800 the mood strikes, maybe we will. 51 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.159 But I uh, I'm. 52 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:06.599 Forward, Dan forward. Know I get jazzed up about this 53 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.840 time of year every year. And I mean the the 54 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.000 pre production in that intro. I mean, I've never been 55 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:15.520 part of a show that had something like that. 56 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.000 Well, plus I never heard it, so I. 57 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:22.919 Know I was like, yeah, let's go, but let me. 58 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.919 You know, one of the things that I talk about 59 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.560 a lot is the First Amendment. And if people like 60 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.439 Kamala Harris and people like Nancy Pelosi and people like 61 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.639 Chuck Schumer have their way, you know what our intro 62 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.080 would sound like tonight? No, our intro would sound like this, Carrie, Jeff, 63 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.039 It's great to be here, been preparing for the. 64 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:42.680 Show all day. 65 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.280 We got some great topics tonight, I've got a great 66 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.919 new recipe for some fluffy scrambled eggs. There's a funny 67 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.919 story about dog and traffick and tips for protecting your 68 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.560 tender vegetation on these frosty day and. 69 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.960 Breaking news Indiana reporting with one percent in Indiana, Donald 70 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.000 Trump is leading seventy three to twenty eight or something 71 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.599 like seventy to twenty eight over Kamala Harris. We can 72 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.560 call it now, No, I don't think so. It's I mean, 73 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:14.479 the polls are just closed in Indiana and Kentucky. Kentucky's 74 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.279 actually got some numbers up right now. They remain open 75 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.600 in Ohio until seven thirty. Is that I believe seven 76 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.120 thirty is is the time. So we will, among other things, 77 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.399 be talking to someone who was very familiar with the 78 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.600 voting process in Ohio, good friend of ours west Side 79 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.959 Jim Keefer, who has once again been tapped to be 80 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:37.680 a truck commander at the Board of Elections, bringing the 81 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:41.160 ballots in and taking the ballots out and taking them 82 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.800 back to the Board of Election from separate polling places 83 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.439 around the area. And that's the kind of thing. 84 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:49.279 That's the kind of thing that I think that this 85 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.560 election is that I think this election is going to 86 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.399 have over what we had in twenty twenty is guys 87 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.920 like Westside Jim and two hundred and thirty plus thousand 88 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.959 people who were trained by the Republican National Committee to 89 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.199 go out and be poll watchers, to go out and report, 90 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:12.079 to jump on issues before they become big, and make 91 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.279 sure that they don't get big, to expose these things 92 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.199 to the light of day and don't let them fester 93 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:20.879 under the surface. And all of a sudden you've got 94 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.160 all these votes that get counted, and they're in there 95 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.720 and they're baked into the system. And I really think 96 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:29.360 that Wattley and that Laura Trump have been doing a 97 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.839 great job as the chairman the co chairs of the GOP, 98 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.000 because to my way of thinking, this is something that 99 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.639 the GOP should have been doing a long time ago, 100 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.120 was working on election integrity issues. 101 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:47.240 As of four point thirty this afternoon, nationwide, eighty four million, 102 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.600 two hundred and thirty three thousand plus people had already 103 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:55.240 cast their ballot in early voting, so the turnout has 104 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.600 been heavy on election Day many places. My wife and 105 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.600 I voted in Southgate in our regular polling place at 106 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:04.680 the Southgate Sydney Center this morning about nine o'clock, you've 107 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.000 got your sticker on. It was a yeah, I've got 108 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:11.920 my sticker on, and I didn't where might kiss me? 109 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.000 I voted sticker tonight because I knew I was doing 110 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:16.040 the show with you, and I. 111 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.279 Don't thought you might be tempted. They didn't supply those 112 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:18.839 at my pulling. 113 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:24.240 No, it's a very, very kind of loose thing in Southgate. 114 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.120 But anyway, there was not a long line, but there 115 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.120 was a lot of traffic. There's more traffic than I 116 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:34.480 remember at a normally sleepy little polling place in little Southgate, Kentucky, 117 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.959 than it was in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. A 118 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.360 big turnout today that people have estimated as much as 119 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.759 seventy eight percent of registered voters may actually show up 120 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:45.480 for this election. 121 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:47.360 That would be a good number. I would not be 122 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:52.000 surprised if that number is higher, just anecdotally. I spent 123 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:55.639 a good part of the day with a large Trump 124 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.199 flag affixed to the back of my motorcycle, and as 125 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:03.120 I visited more electioneering, I know I was just I'm 126 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:04.839 a private citizen. I can do what I want. 127 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:05.319 Sure. 128 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.879 I wrote around from polling place to polling place, and 129 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:10.480 I knew a lot of people that were working at 130 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.079 the different polling places, and they tell me they anecdotally 131 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.040 that and these are people that have been there a 132 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.600 year after because generally speaking, when you go to vote, 133 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.240 you probably see the same people there, same poleward. It's 134 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.319 just about a year after year. And so these people 135 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.800 have been there for years, they've done this multiple times, 136 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:31.319 and they're to a person, they're all telling me that 137 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.600 this is the most people they've ever seen. And where 138 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.120 I live in Anderson Township, we normally have very good 139 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.000 election turnout, even for the off year elections. So plus 140 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.959 upwards of seventy eighty percent, I would not be surprised 141 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:45.240 at all. 142 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.360 And you know what bad things happen when you have 143 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.319 low voter turnout in elections. We see it all the time. 144 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:55.000 We see it all the time in Cincinnati. I mean 145 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.560 when they're voting on an issue and it's an off 146 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:02.399 election or a non presidential election year, nineteen percent fifteen 147 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:08.720 percent turnout and truly dreadful things get passed by fifteen 148 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:10.079 percent of the electorate. 149 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.439 Well, sir, and the people who put those dreadful things 150 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.720 on rely on that to happen so they can get 151 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:17.759 these dreadful things passed. All they got to do is 152 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.680 get their people out and not worry about the other people. 153 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.600 But the other thing that I think is different this 154 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.480 time around is that by and large, you've got the 155 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.720 candidate who embraced the whole notion of early voting that 156 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:36.039 had not happened before. And my buddy Mark Lotter was 157 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:39.039 on CNN yesterday. Mark Lotter is a guy that used 158 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.759 to work for the We used to work for Mike Pence. 159 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.440 He was part of the Trump Pence team when they 160 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.639 ran for reelection. He was in the White House with 161 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.639 Donald Trump and Pence. And here's what he said on 162 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.639 CNN yesterday that really got my attention. He's saying, based 163 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.679 on the numbers that he's seeing from the early voting 164 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:04.000 that for Kamala Harris at the math doesn't work. The 165 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.240 Democrats are down one point seven million early votes in 166 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.399 the battleground states. In urban areas, there are down one 167 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.720 point four million votes in battleground amongst women and also 168 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.120 amongst women voters. Rural voters have outperformed in the early 169 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:23.840 voting by over three hundred thousand, and that generally favors Trump. 170 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:27.320 And so these are all votes that are out there 171 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.759 that were not there in years past. And those are 172 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.480 huge numbers when you consider that it's a you know, 173 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.720 a three hundred thousand voters who come out in the 174 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.559 rural areas. You know that that's a huge swing compared 175 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.279 to years past. And so he was talking about how 176 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:48.840 Democrats win their races early and Republicans generally win on 177 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.600 election day because the turnout is big for Republicans, certainly 178 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.960 on election day. And he was saying that the margins 179 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.519 that he was looking at just don't add up for 180 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.960 the Democrats in the battleground states. So if that analysis 181 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.679 is correct, which I hope it is, they think it 182 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.480 could be, you know, maybe not as late of a 183 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:08.320 night as we think. 184 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.840 About with a huge turnout which we're all expecting and 185 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.200 what we've seen so far, Dan, how does it affect 186 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.159 the down ballot races? How does it affect the race, say, 187 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.600 for example, in the first district between Greg Lansman and 188 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.159 Orlando's Sanza uh And and does Orlando actually have a 189 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.360 chance to take that back for the Republicans. 190 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.919 Well, that was the thing when when Biden got elected 191 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.159 in twenty twenty, and the analysis of that was that 192 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.720 Biden had no or very very little coattails. So it 193 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:43.759 was a meaning that he did not take a lot 194 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:49.559 of Republicans with him down the ballot. So you had 195 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.320 you had that dynamic going on. And so when when 196 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.919 the turnout comes and it's going to be interesting, it's 197 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:59.039 it's hard for me to imagine someone coming out and 198 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.279 voting for Trump and I'm not voting for and A 199 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:07.039 lands An Orlando Sonza or voting for a Moreno, someone 200 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:08.000 like Bernie Moreno. 201 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.120 So I'm like, that is the other big race. Shared 202 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:18.799 Brown and the packs surrounding and supporting Shared Brown with 203 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.840 the campaign money have spent million. I think it was 204 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:25.240 as much as four hundred million dollars has been spent 205 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:26.399 between the two candidates. 206 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.240 Most expensive Senate race in the country this year. I 207 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.799 don't know if it's the most expensive one ever, but 208 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.600 I'm but I mean hundreds upwards of four hundred million dollars. 209 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:40.039 As someone who supports generally conservative or right leaning candidates, 210 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.759 when I saw that, I mean, I knew very little 211 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.399 about Bernie Marino except that he was a car dealer 212 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.759 in Cleveland and that Trump had endorsed him. Shared Brown 213 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:57.039 was hitting the road in June. In July with campaign 214 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.399 ads lots of campaign ads. It was like, I was 215 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.559 so sick of the shared Brown adds, and I'm going, 216 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.120 where are the Bernie Marino ads? Because they didn't they 217 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.600 didn't break till late in the game, and all the 218 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.799 allegations about Bernie Marino as a businessman and shady guy 219 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.879 and all the other and and then more recently the 220 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.159 abortion issue, which is again going to be pretty huge 221 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:26.960 in this election in several races, you know. Uh, even 222 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.600 with that, from what I understand, the shared Brown Bernie 223 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.360 Marino race is close, is very close. Is that Is 224 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:34.840 that the President Trump factor? 225 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:38.679 I don't know about that, but I think I think 226 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.720 that's more of a factor when I look at what 227 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:45.000 happened to Marino, because I was at an event towards 228 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:49.879 the end of the summertime, and the people that spoke 229 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:54.000 at this event and current including the current Attorney General 230 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.799 of of of the state of Ohio, yep uh, they 231 00:12:57.840 --> 00:12:59.960 were they were doing what they could to pump up Marino. 232 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.080 They were and they were talking about how you know 233 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.120 it's still early, you know, seven eight points behind, we 234 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:06.840 can make that up. So I think it's more of 235 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.000 a factor of the traditional people who involved themselves in 236 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.320 politics were Normally people don't start paying attention to politics 237 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.200 until what until the end of summer, until until Memorial 238 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:23.240 Day or Labor Day. So I think I think that's 239 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.559 what worked in Marino's favor, and and the and the 240 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.000 you know, the polling here in the last month or 241 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.120 the last you know, six sevens has shown it very 242 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.320 close as they has shown a huge trend for Marino. 243 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.240 And you know how hard it is generally hard. I 244 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:37.919 think that's why some of the lot of the late 245 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.080 money came in on both sides of this campaign to 246 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:42.120 jack up those numbers. 247 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.279 Well, I mean, and do you know how difficult it 248 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:51.679 is historically to unseat an incumbent solder. The Senate is 249 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:56.000 full of the one hundred most powerful people in the country, 250 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:00.639 and it's it's almost like you have to find them 251 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:06.039 in bed with a horse, and maybe even that doesn't 252 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:08.720 doesn't kill their campaign. 253 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:11.840 Well, it's you know, I was going to say, it's 254 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.480 harder than getting a word in edgewise when you're sitting 255 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:19.960 across the table from Cunningham. That's that's a difficult no, no, 256 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.080 that that's politics one o one right there. And the 257 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:27.240 power of the incumbency is is just something that they can, 258 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:31.840 especially in the more the more local the races. I 259 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:33.120 mean you look at the I mean that there's a 260 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.039 lot of names. I mean the ballot I filled out 261 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.200 was two pages long. Yep, both sides of the paper 262 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:40.240 and uh and and and you. 263 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.240 Vote in what county? Hamilton County, Okay, you vote in 264 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.200 Hamilton County. I voted in Campbell County. In ours was 265 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.360 both sides, right, It was a two sided ballot. But 266 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.799 even someone who pays attention, there's going to be some 267 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:55.679 names in there that. 268 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:57.879 That got it. 269 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.240 I don't know this name. I don't know this And 270 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.279 so that's why the power of the incompascy and name 271 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.480 recognition is such a key thing. 272 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:10.399 Well, certainly we've got Issue one in Ohio, Amendment one 273 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:14.399 and two in Kentucky. They're both big ballot issues and 274 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:18.240 a lot of money has been spent, and they're trying 275 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.480 to put down issues, especially Issue too in Kentucky, which 276 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.320 of course is the school choice issue. Kentucky's one of 277 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.399 only two states in the nation that doesn't have some 278 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.799 form of school choice for parents and real competition with 279 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:30.639 public schools. 280 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:31.440 Uh. 281 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:37.639 And Issue one in Ohio about the drawing of the districts, 282 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.399 well that that amendment is such a mess. 283 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.679 At my polling place today, it's at an elementary school, 284 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:50.039 and there was a I want to say, not a billboard, 285 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.080 but you know, a corkboard, right, a sorting board, big 286 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.879 bigger than one of these TVs here, and they had 287 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.480 the full text of Issue one opened up up on 288 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.279 a piece of paper on this billboard or on this 289 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:04.679 uh this. 290 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.639 Right on this courtboard, and it took up the whole board. 291 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:11.080 I mean it was like you know, you know those 292 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.600 when you open a thing of drugs and you and 293 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:15.279 you start unfolding the piece of paper in there and 294 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.759 it winds up getting like like big as a map 295 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.720 of the United States. Certainly, this thing was unbelievably huge 296 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.279 and will it was in the full text. 297 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:30.759 And the language is not average person town discern exactly 298 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:35.559 what this this amendment or issue says. And they do 299 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.720 that on purpose, They write them that way on purpose. 300 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.279 I'll tell you what a mess? What an about? Let's 301 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.480 take a break, Gary, Jeff Walker, and Dan Carroll on 302 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.600 election night. Results are starting to come in. We're going 303 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.240 to get to those between now and nine o'clock. Rocky 304 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.960 Boyman is behind the mic at nine for his double 305 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.120 dip today. As Willie would say, he's not a show horse, 306 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:59.399 He's a workers And we continue on election Night on 307 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.960 seven hund WLW. But do you see how traffic it is? 308 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.960 Election Night, Gary, Jeff Walker, Dan Carroll with you on 309 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.960 seven hundred WLWR. Coverage will continue throughout the evening from 310 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.559 the seven hundred WLW newsroom, updates from ABC News and 311 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:22.359 several special guests along the way. The polls have closed 312 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.480 in Indiana and Kentucky, and we have results or not 313 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:30.039 full results, partially partial results as we as we go 314 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.359 through the evening. In Ohio, the polls remain open until 315 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.279 seven thirty. The first voting in this twenty twenty four 316 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.400 election occurred, of course, in Dicksville Notch, New Hampshire, where 317 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.640 the six residents split three each. 318 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:48.240 If I'm not mistaken, Biden swept Dixville Notch really or 319 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.880 it might have been five to one something like it was. 320 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.640 It was a lopsided victory. So in other words, the 321 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.880 margins have narrowed. Well, I mean, if they're a precursor 322 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.480 for the rest of the country, then we see things 323 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:00.880 have changed. 324 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.559 We have our first guest of the evening, doctor Carol 325 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:08.799 Lieberman is a forensic psychiatrist, and I mean board certified. 326 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:14.039 She's just an amazing, amazing person who's probably seen her 327 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.160 on Oprah or The Today Show or Fox News or CNN, 328 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.759 And we wanted to talk to doctor Carroll tonight, namely 329 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:28.559 about the candidate's body language and what it says from 330 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:33.440 a psychological standpoint. Doctor Lieberman, good evening, and welcome to 331 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:34.799 our election coverage. 332 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:36.839 How are you good evening? 333 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.920 Fine? Thank you, as fine as one could be on 334 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:39.480 a day like. 335 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:46.960 This, America's psychiatrist with us. So tell me, doctor Lieberman, 336 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.160 what do you look for when you're looking at candidate's 337 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:54.640 posture to reveal about their emotional state at the time. 338 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:01.640 Well, the first of all, faith, that's you know, that 339 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:06.079 usually gives out lots of clues. Second of all, you know, 340 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:11.000 for example, I was analyzing the debates and so like 341 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:18.480 the vice presidential debate, Vance had this really strong, uh posture, 342 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.519 good posture. You know, he looked like I called him, 343 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.680 like the captain of the ship. You know, he looked 344 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:26.759 like he knew what he was doing. He wasn't going 345 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:31.759 to be uh disturbed or you know, bothered by anything 346 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.759 that even though they even though that the moderator has 347 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.440 worn one hundred percent fair. But he wasn't gonna let 348 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.559 that bother him. He had you know, he was sure 349 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:42.960 that what he wanted about what he wanted to say. 350 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:47.680 What about the assistant coach governor of Minnesota vice presidential candidate. 351 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:53.440 Tim Walltz, Yes, the one who lied about being Antiennamin 352 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.319 Square and all that. Yeah, he looks very nervous. You know, 353 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.440 you can also telp not before looking, you know, at 354 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.200 their uh, like if they're if their eyes are shifting, 355 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.119 or if they're you know, moving around, moving their hands 356 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.799 around in a nervous kind of way. You can also tell, 357 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:11.400 like the average person can tell even if they don't 358 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:13.720 know all the different specific kind of things to look. 359 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:15.799 More like whether their hands are closed in front of 360 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.559 them that means they're closed off or wide open or 361 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:22.039 you know, they're all there's all these little tips, all 362 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.839 these little ways of looking at it. But the average person, 363 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.839 anybody can look at a person and you know, like 364 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.359 in a debate or like just you know, watching them 365 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.640 and how you feel when you look at them. So 366 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:39.599 like with with Advance and Walk, when you looked Advance, 367 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:42.960 you felt secure, you felt calm, like he calmed you. 368 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:46.880 When you looked at Waltz, he made you nervous because 369 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:47.960 he was so nervous. 370 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:49.960 What do you make he was moving around a lot 371 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:54.200 during that, Doctor Lieberman, What do you make of. 372 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:01.640 The vice president's incessant laughter at weird moments? 373 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:06.720 What do you make of that that is a symptom 374 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.920 of her imposter syndrome? I believe No. I haven't examined 375 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.640 her one on one, and I don't particularly want to 376 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:20.599 meet her, but she has imposter syndrome. What that means 377 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:24.920 is when someone doesn't feel as though they are really 378 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.839 as good or they represent what it is that people 379 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.240 think that they are, so you know, they know that 380 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:38.160 they're hiding something. And with Kamala Harris, she never had 381 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.720 the qualifications to be anything. When she was in California. 382 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.920 She only went up through the ranks because she slept 383 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.759 with people, you know, with at least one person, the 384 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.640 mayor of San Francisco, and he helped her move up 385 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.079 the ranks. And then when Biden picked her to be 386 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.160 his vice president, it wasn't because she was brilliant or 387 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.319 she had these great idea It was because she was 388 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.680 a black woman and he needed those segments of the 389 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.720 population to vote for him. 390 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.759 Isn't that ridiculous? Isn't that iculous? 391 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.400 And she's living because she's uncomfortable. She's always afraid of 392 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:19.880 being found out. Someone with imposter syndrome is always afraid 393 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:20.720 of being found out. 394 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:24.680 Yeah, I love that. I love that analysis. I had 395 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:27.920 a on my social media feed this morning. There was 396 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.000 an individual who put out there that he turned his 397 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.119 TV on and he recorded there was a commercial of 398 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.559 three or four different individuals who claim to be psychiatrists 399 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.160 or psychologists and that they have analyzed Donald Trump and 400 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.759 they're calling him a narcissist and all these really nasty things. 401 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.960