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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say hour two vo TV coming up.
So you mentioned for Tina there.
Speaker 5: I want to talk a.
Speaker 4: Little Saints commis here, guys, Saints Commander's coming up Sunday
in the Dome, and I don't have a lot of
hope for the home team here. Okay, it's it's I mean,
how could you write again? I know you all hate
Derek Carr, and I get it. I get it, deeply unexcited.
I do think it's deeply funny that the Falcons saw
what you did with Derek Carr did the same thing
with Kirk Cousins, and it's arguably even worse.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's arguably worse, it's definitely it is
objectively worse.
Speaker 5: And you said this yesterday.
Speaker 6: The only quarterback and however long to have zero touchdowns
and eight pigs through four games.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't even know. There was just a
headline I saw when I was waiting and laundry to
open it. Open, uh, open up the door to let
me in. Yeah, it's a headline. It's it's it's in
the group text. It's about Kirk Cousins. We're getting misery
loves misery loves company, right, And it's very funny to me. Now, granted,
Kirk was.
Speaker 6: The first Kirk Cousins is the first starting quarterback with
zero passing touchdowns and eight or more interceptions in a
four game span since Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and five.
Speaker 4: Hey, they won the Super Bowl that year. I don't
know if they did, but you know it's around them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he was in like his second year.
Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, I'm kidding. The point is,
it's it's deeply funny to me, though, that the Falcons
saw the Saints do this kind of disastrous signing. Oh,
here's a veteran guy who's never really proved to be
great but has been very, very solid for a long time.
They pay him a lot of money and the Falcons like,
and they watch vail fires like, well, we want to
do that too, And now they're in the exact same
situation where they've given Kirk one hundred million guaranteed basically
one hundred and eighty on the contract as a whole,
and he appears to be done. Now, maybe Michael Pennington
ends up being that guy, and then you give them
credit for going quarterback when people thought that they shouldn't.
We'll see. But like, the only saving grace for if
you're a saint sit right now, for no matter how
you feel about Derek Carr, is that you can always
look at the Falcons and start to laugh now, uh,
because what looked good at the beginning of the season
has turned into a bit of a train wreck and
a bit of a disaster now. So the point of this,
regardless of value feel about their Carr, He's been fine
this year, not great. He does not necessarily win you games,
but he is a legitimate starting NFL quarterback and the
numbers back it up, right, he's like thirteenth in QBR
eleventh in like whatever QB rating a yards for attamp
to like eleventh, like, so yeah, he's honestly, you're kind
of getting a bit more than you paid for, maybe
statistically given that he's like the eighteenth paid quarterback in
the NFL right now. But the point of all of this,
even if you hate him, you're not better without him.
You're just not at all. In fact, you could not
take a further step down. Like, yes, losing Eric McCoy massive,
losing Tomorrio Davis for a time huge, but there's no
bigger impact than losing your quarterback. Why did you go
on that seven game lose streak. Well a lot of
it was because you lost Eric Carr. So I don't
have a lot of hope for Sunday, but I have
maybe found right if if if I'm Paula Trade's and
I've drunk the sand Worm blue juice, just slurped it up,
and I've looked into the future and I've found the
one pathway in which the Saints win this game, I
think I may have found it. Do you want a
hazard to guess at what it may be?
Speaker 7: At what like the solution for Sunday?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Like like like what what? What? What the Saints
could maybe see on paper maybe where they would have
an advantage they could seek to exploit.
Speaker 6: Uh, you're gonna have to run the crap out of
that football first off, with Alvin Kamara, you're gonna have
to force at least one defensive tournament.
Speaker 4: Yeah you got I mean the tournaments, but you nailed it. Actually, Taylor,
I'm proud of you. If you look at washing right now,
they have one of the top defenses in the NFL.
From a scoring te or, I think they're like maybe
middle of the pack scoring standpoint totally yarded though they're
they're the bit higher than the middle of the pack.
They're very good pass defense, top five in the NFL,
bottom five against the run. So if there is a
weakness to exploit and think about it, it also masks
your deficiencies. Right. What helps a subpar quarterback that's thrust
into situations for some of the first times in his
career an excellent running game. What else does that do?
It choose clock. It keeps the ball out of Jaden
Daniel's hands. Because the defense is gonna if the Satine's
gonna win, the other part of the defense is gonna
have to kick ass because the Commander's offense is awesome
and unfortunately they're awesome at rushing ball. And you kind
of stuck against the run. So that look that I
you know, at that point, you just got to play
better than you have been. Like offensively, you've run the
ball quite well this year, so that does kind of
match up where you can maybe exploit that weakness defensively.
It's one of those unfortunate games where you just gotta
be good where you've been bad this year. But if
you can do that right and then een Like granted,
this defense gets randomly really frisky at times though. Look
what they did the Rams and then a week later
the Rams would forty two on Buffalo. You had that
Atlanta offense that was red hot, and you didn't allow
a touchdown for the entire game or half the game
or something like that. Like I'm trying to trugle, remember,
so maybe you got to hope to catch one of
those Sundays defensively, which being in the zone goes a
being in the dome goes a long way towards making
that happen. And then you just gotta rely on Kamara
and Kendre Miller. And it really sucks that you don't
have Taysom Hill in this game. If you had Taysom Hill,
I would feel like you had a bit of a chance.
As it stands now, it would be Darren Rizzy's greatest
feather in his cap. Yet, if you were to win
this game without Derek Carr, should go ahead and give
Clint Kubiak a key to the city if you find
a way to win this game without Derek Carr and
he takes on Sunday Saints Comedies game. Guys.
Speaker 6: So again, like you were talking about running the ball,
I think the offensive line is going to be key
in this game.
Speaker 5: And it's weird to say, you know, we were talking about it.
Speaker 4: The other day.
Speaker 6: What's the strength of the Saints offense? It might actually
be the o line because what did we see? I
always go back to the Bucks game because what you're
laying out kind of resembles that, right, Like your defense
has to be good, would be good throughout the game.
Like what did we see with the Bucks? They jumped
up to what a seventeen nothing lead in that game.
Then you force Baker maybe able to do three first
half interceptions. You cut the lead to three, but you
never felt like you were threatening the Bucks because you
couldn't do anything offensively. Yeah, mainly run the ball because
you had two backup offensive linemen in there. It's a
little bit different in this game because you're starting oh
lines out there fully healthy. I mean, that's the offensive
line is going to make the biggest difference for me.
Speaker 4: So we'll we'll see and they can somehow find a
way again. If the Rizzler starts to win games like
this without Car, you do gotta start it to take
it real seriously about do you give them a chance
as a bridge guy. And ultimately it's one of those
unfortunate hires where you're kind of hiring him to be
a bit of a sacrificial lamb because you're saying, Okay,
look you did a lot with a little this year,
and we're gonna continue to give you a little as
we kind of reset our cap as we try to
refine pieces, as we shuttle off the old baggage and
move into a new generation. So it's not exactly the
most fair situation you get ahead coaching opportunity anyway. But
if you win a game like this, well, yeah, I mean, look,
we're gonna have to very very very seriously discussing I
don't think it would necessarily be the worst thing at
this time, as I don't see anybody else coming in
from the outside and like just making this team good, right, Like,
I guess that's something we never consider. Let's say you
get Ben Johnson, Are you a good team? I don't
know so.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, it doesn't look Ben Johnson has a
chance to be great, But like so many people are
like Ben Johnson's Thence Lombardi and he's never coached a
game yet They're like, yeah, any team, he's gonna completely.
Speaker 5: Turn around your franchise.
Speaker 6: Like, hold up, he's gonna be a first time head
coach who's an offensive specialist. But if you have crap
all around him, you're still gonna be crap.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's like, but okay, let's say, I don't
know who do you think is the best coach in
the end. Let's see you have Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 5: Shanahan, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 4: Are you a good team? I don't think so. I
think you could be better, you know, I think maybe
you could be better than what you were this year, certainly,
But I don't know that there's any coach that's just
gonna come in here and overcome the the the very
widespread personnel problems that this roster has currently, I think, oh, sorry, no,
go ahead.
Speaker 7: I just think Clink Kubiak proved that though, that you
can't come in and just save a team that doesn't
have a good core.
Speaker 4: But he has also proven that you can be But
I was gonna say he has proven that you can
be way better because he has done I do think
he's squeezing blood from the stone.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's doing a bad job. I'm just
saying there's a ceiling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's absolutely a ceiling. So the point of
all that is like, there will always be So it's funny.
Somebody who was talking to me yesterday. Of course, you know,
Emery Jones going to the NFL. The immediate calls like
how do you feel about Brian cut And then I
was talking about Yody's like I'm in love with Kennedy
dill I'm like, look, I get that for sure. But
here's the deal is, there will always be a Kenny Dillingham.
You know, there's always going to be the hot candidate
out there, no matter the year when you make the
coaching switch, and you have to hope that a hot
candidate's real if you do it to make it switch.
So I guess what I'm getting at is like Ben Johnson,
whoever you want to say, Now, yeah, he's the guy today,
But do you want to bring in that that that
like the kind of top or try to fight to
bring in the top guy if you're not going to
give him a good a good set of ingredients with
which to work, or do you maybe wait until you
feel like you're in a better spot to make that
move and then if you still feel the need to,
well you go get the hot candidate. Then it's all
food for thought. It's all food for thought. Only time
will tell what the Saints end up doing. But again,
this Sunday against Commanders, I think Washington wins. Obviously, I
think without their cards very easy to see. Uh but
if the Rizzler manages to rally the team and pull
this off in a close game, well we gotta start
thinking about all right. Coming up next, let's get into
maybe some potential buyers of the new Orleands Saints and
uh more OTB coming up next.
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Speaker 4: Off the bench, joyful and tryin.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, calm too badly.
Speaker 8: Robust August from the diaphragm.
Speaker 4: Powerful Jones, Oh come less. So I need the Saints
to play on Sunday all come less. You know, they're
not singing about Jesus. They're singing about the Rizzler, not
Darren Rizzy, the actual Wrizzler. It's actually quite funny if
you think about this song and then you sing about
him up there on the days, surrounded by angels wearing
like a met sweatshirt.
Speaker 7: Yes in the manger, Okay, I don't like doing this,
but that's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Boom, I can't make justice is just behind him doing this.
Wise man us all right, him, Baby Gronk tries to
come in and kick him out.
Speaker 6: The Riddler has just taken over like Baby Gronk, Like
he just pushed him out like.
Speaker 7: Baby Gronk was not sustainable though, because like everybody hates Todd,
I think he's still kicking ass everybody.
Speaker 4: That's interesting because we had personal interaction with the dad.
Baby Gronk came in studio with the dad. Were you you?
Were you not here? But were you not here part
of the show a lot at that time.
Speaker 7: I've seen the picture and I've been here, not part
of the show at the time.
Speaker 4: You weren't part of the show either.
Speaker 6: When I was here, I was doing hot show. I was,
I was up here when he was here. Oh wow,
that was a while back. She may have not even
been here here.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's crazy. God time sucks.
Speaker 7: Yesterday ask you all about that picture, and it's just
so funny because I was like, why was baby gre Like,
how did you even get in touch with Baby Gronk?
Speaker 4: I think Jamie's on Instagram?
Speaker 6: Maybe well, because he was coming on campus to do
the La Shoe visit and Livy Don gave him the tour.
Speaker 5: Remember it was the right around that time.
Speaker 4: Baby Gronk just ribbed up Livy Done. Who is that guy?
He annoys the hell out of me?
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Some guy like hoop of Fire something. He might be
big on TikTok, but he just does like all the
I don't know. I fell into a random Baby Gronk
cold the other day because he was at the mall
and there were like a million little kids around him and.
Speaker 7: Everything but asking us to pull the pick. We can't.
It's like a polaroid.
Speaker 4: So the thing is so Baby Gronk came in here
in studio with his father, okay, and it's complicated because
his dad is the one that like you know, makes
him do all this stuff and and and yeah, like
all like the ridge like his dad, his dad does everything,
Like his dad is putting together everything. You're like, oh
my god, you know this is like this is bad
for the kids. You're forced me to do all these things.
But his dad comes from a complicated background where his
dad wasn't around, and his dad used to be doing
bad stuff and then he got out of it. And
it's like, I don't know, man, From where I sit,
I understand why people are kind of turned off by
it or think it's bad. But also from where I sit,
I see a father and son who are spending time
together twenty four to seven and really, you know, making
a very successful living to provide for their family and
for his future. So like, I get why it turns
some people off, but I don't. It's kind of how
it used to feel about the balls, right, Like I
understand why the balls turn people off, but like, at
the same time, are all of our LaVar balls kids
not wildly successful?
Speaker 7: Yeah? And also they used to have Okay, this is
how deep I get into trash. Yeah, this is how
deep I get into like trash, TV, rabbit holes. So
like Facebook, used to do like TV shows. This was
a while back, like back before the pandemic they used
to do like they had like Facebook, Yeah for sure,
And the Balls had a reality TV show on Facebook
and I watched it was.
Speaker 5: A Ball in the Court or something like that.
Speaker 7: I don't remember what it was, but like I watched
like the entire thing and I ended up liking that.
Speaker 4: It's never been more shocking ever heard about one of.
Speaker 6: Those things where it's like when he first came out,
he's flamboyant and all this, I'm like, who's this guy? Like,
let your kids play ball? But the more you're sort
of talking, like, the more he grew on me. And
now that he's not in the spotlight anymore, I'm like, man,
I miss the LeVar Ball quotes. I miss him yelling
at stephen A. Smith on the first day actually ball back.
Speaker 7: And yeah, the whole show, like the whole family though,
and the mom she had like a stroke and they
went through it on the reality TV show.
Speaker 5: Yes, she like doesn't talk well or like I.
Speaker 7: Think like one side of her have your body get
in paralyzed.
Speaker 4: And it is my grandpa.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but she's been kind of like do it getting better?
Or whatever, but like they went through it on the
show and it was pretty sad, but it was like
good to see, Like the family. I don't know, I
don't have a problem with the Ball family.
Speaker 4: The point is exactly right, and the point is like
I also like, I don't think the baby ground stuff
is as clear cut like he was like, oh, he's
trying to live his dreams to his son and everything else.
Like Okay, I get it. Do you want to say true? Sure, whatever,
But again, he's with his son twenty four to seven.
He's there for a way and that his father was
not there for him, and he's providing a way better
life and his son are creating this together than I mean,
is it that different from AJ and Big Justice?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the behind the scenes of those
videos where he makes them stops? Yeah, Like no, it's
just I mean, that's that's the content game.
Speaker 6: The costco employees are like, dude, hurry trying to sell
the lawn chairs.
Speaker 5: Don't sit in them.
Speaker 4: Uh So, I guess this is all to say, I'm
a I'm a supporter, I'm i'm I I I am
I am. At the end of the day, I'm a
baby Gronk and his dad's supporter. I hope he doesn't
have some awful ending where the funds get misused. Okay, jesus,
no what baby Gronk murdered in an unsolved mystery, Ladra, hell,
I just.
Speaker 6: You're like, it would be unfortunate if something bad happened
to me. Lad Be like, yeah, it'd be bad if
somebody killing him.
Speaker 4: No, I'm meant like, I hope he doesn't, like you know,
maybe like fame at that young of an age can
lead to things like maybe partying too much. I hope
the funds don't get like misappropriated by the parents, like
I'm talking more about get found in his basement, like
stuff that you see with other child stars. No, not
a John Benet Ramsey. Are you crazy? My gosh, Teva
says Baby Gronk threatened to fight the Rizzler. He is
the enemy. Uh, it's just a bit. It's just a bit.
It's just a ww bit.
Speaker 6: I mean, Okay, guys, people watched Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.
I would much rather watch Baby Gronk in The Rizzler.
At least they're more on even ground.
Speaker 4: They're not on even ground though, dude, baby Gronk's way
older than the Wristler is he?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm not actually sure old baby, I don't actually I
don't know how old the Rizzler is.
Speaker 7: Him, baby Gronk if he ain't a baby anymore?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Why but he saw a baby relative to Also?
Speaker 6: Also, why did he choose Gronk? Because honestly, the kid
didn't play tight end you he did?
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, because he was big. He got bigger than
all everybody else's age away, Like why did yeah? Yeah, yeah,
gonna be like jumping in rooms. Jesus relaxed. It's invoke
one of the most terrific.
Speaker 5: Crimes on the night I saw something about jumping.
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were talking about a bit earlier some potential buyers of
the New Orleans Saints, as Tillman, for Tita has expressed
some interest in maybe purchasing the team, And hmmm, it's
it's interesting to think about, right because for Tita is
a very active owner, which I think would appeal to
some Saints fans. Now it's you could argue it's maybe
a little bit of Jerry Jones, right, I mean very active.
He's he's gonna want to be at everything, He's gonna
want to be involved in everything. He basically is the
University of Houston right now. But that level of Giveadam
is kind of exciting, right, A big swashbuckling restaurant ur
coming in and and and and and and starting a
new era of Saints football. Uh but right now the
team is not for sale. They will be eventually, is it?
It's written into the Benson Will that Dennis Lausha, the president,
will be the exec executor of the state whenever it
comes to that time, and that the sale of the
team will be included in that. Uh, so we know
the Saints will come up for sale eventually, may be sooner,
maybe I don't know, And maybe it'll be again, I
don't want to be too morbid, like it doesn't have
to be with they passing right maybe maybe maybe maybe
it just galed that the team decides to sell before that.
I do think though, one thing that's going to be
fascinating to see. We know that the Saints have this
kind of super this this this secret ownership group, right,
the power group. You're your You're Laosha, Mickey Loomis, Greg Benzel,
some others who essentially control the team, who are kind
of like the owners of the team. It does beg
the question would they willingly give said team up now? Certainly,
if miss Gale said today I want to sell the team,
they would have to. But if it is a will situation,
do they try to find an avenue to keep the
team right. Do they sell it to some friendly buyer,
somebody that they put in the I think there's a
million different ways that this could go. The other thing is,
does Tilman and for Tita have the money right? Said
to be networks, it'd be around like ten or eleven
billion dollars. I think the Saints are valued at like four.
But the thing is, it's really I mean, what are
the Commanders to sell for six six and a half
six and a half I think billion. I cannot fathom
the Saints selling for less, and and for Tita actually
had a bid in on the Commanders at around four
and a half billion dollars. That was just too low
at the end of the day, So we'll see. I mean,
also some other names that people have banned out, of course,
Todd Graves, and then there's Gary gold me Jerry Jeffrey Goldring,
which I'd never heard of before this, and honestly he's
kind of a bit of a secretive character, but said
we worth seven billion dollars from the Sasarat Company.
Speaker 6: SASAC owns a lot of other bourbon whiskey, Like, it's
not just SASA.
Speaker 4: I mean obviously, that's that's insane. Now, he wouldn't be
able to do it alone, but he could maybe head
a group. Well, we'll we'll, we'll see. But how would
you feel about tell me and for Tita buying the Saints.
I'd love it.
Speaker 6: I think he's done a really good job with the
Houston Rockets. I mean that team was awful when he
took him over. If nothing else, he's made him excited.
He brought in a lot of young talent, and I'm
okay with it. A lot of people have said I
don't want anybody elseide of the state of Louisiana buying
the Saints.
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's kind of Louisiana enough, right, I mean,
you know Houston. He's had some ties to a restaurant ties.
Uh No, Taylor's ties are off ties. Taylor, give give
us the Tillman Fertita ties.
Speaker 6: For Tita's son, Nico for Tita was a high school
football player wound up playing for Brian Kelly at Notre Dame.
His teammate Alis Mack also played tight end at Notre
Dame under Brian Kelly, who drafted Alis A. Mack in
the seventh round the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: Les Ties make him the owner of the team to
rest Saies. Leonardo Vince's gold rings far from secret. His
name is everywhere the things, like the zoo and other places.
It's fine. I've never seen it, so maybe that's on me.
I shouldn't say secret. I've I've never heard of his
name before reading some stuff about who could potentially by
the by the team. So we'll see, we'll see. Maybe
maybe I don't know. Again, I think the actual story
here is, in a situation where the will is being
put into action, do the people in power give up
said power? They honor the will because that is something
that you know, you look throughout human history. It turns
out the people in power very rarely want to willingly
give upset power, except for George Washington. Bro's dog Okay
said nah bam, I'm enlightened. I drink coffee. I don't
want to be king, even though you want me to be.
That's real power. All right. When we get back, let's
go ahead, Okay. I want to do a couple of things.
I want to do a sec nice and naughty list,
and eventually we need to get into our twelve teen
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Speaker 2: Rouge, back to sports, maybe off the bench.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to otb Uh? That just did that? Did
you change the song or the songs just switched? It
did that? It did that on its own? Interesting? All right?
Speaker 7: Like I said, I put something random on?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 7: You just playing?
Speaker 4: Come on? Come on?
Speaker 7: How I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's not even the it's not even the fourteenth yet.
Speaker 7: I know, and it's already played out.
Speaker 4: You haven't even played. Where are you Christmas? Or what
about like the little boy who wants the shoes for
his mom or whatever? The said one, Yeah, we have
Christmas shoes.
Speaker 7: Why so sad? Why because he's buying shoes for his
dying mother for her to wear in her casket.
Speaker 5: It's a good story, yeah? Is it a good song?
Speaker 7: Yes, it's not a good story.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's good.
Speaker 4: I mean, sad doesn't preclude being good.
Speaker 5: Heart filled, but I don't know if it's that good
of a soul.
Speaker 7: Sad is decidedly bad.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 7: It's good to be sad.
Speaker 4: I think I think you have to be sad. I think, yes,
I think so. I think I think being sad is
a vital part of the human experience, and being able
to engage with sadness through things like art kind of
helps you. You know, first off, I think get out emotions,
which is good. But then also I think it kind
of helps to I think sometimes watching like that's very
sad can have a couple effects. First off, it can't
kind of help prepare you for situations that you'll eventually
deal with in your life. But also I think it
makes you appreciate things you have more and it gives
you levels of empathy where you think about other people
going through things that you may not recognize. Yeah, like,
I think I think there is value to that. Now,
it's hard. It's hard to want to sit down and
watch something that or listening like that. And probably the same.
Saddest thing I've ever seen in my life is an
original Netflix animation about made by some parents of one
of these Sandy Hook victims. It's about grief, and it
is the saddest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, but I
emerged out of it the other side, glad that I
had watched it for all the reasons that I just said.
It was impossible not to, you know, feel empathy for
your fellow man while also feeling appreciated for everything that
you have and and and understanding just how lucky you
really can be. So watched the Did you watch that recently?
That was like two or three years ago. I'll never
watch it again. It's weird.
Speaker 6: You came in about a month ago and I was like, man,
really seems like he turned over new leaf. I was
thinking maybe maybe that was why.
Speaker 4: But did I start being nice to you a month ago?
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't that. Your your aura changed.
Speaker 4: What do you what's the bit here? What are you
getting at?
Speaker 7: Tells you like why we want to be sad?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 7: Like when I was sad, I'm just like, you know
what bury that deep down?
Speaker 4: When you're sad? Do you listen to sad songs? No?
Speaker 7: I try to not be sad. I like, when I'm sad,
I literally just ignore the fact that I'm sad and
I try to do other stuff.
Speaker 4: I think that eventually, I like this Medley, I think
that eventually overwhelms you.
Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's like, I mean, you don't feel better
after a good cry.
Speaker 7: I don't like cry much, but I guess if you're
pushed to the point of like yeah, and then I
feel like a little bee after I'm done doing so.
Speaker 4: It's not good. It's not good, not in my opinion
at least.
Speaker 7: H I don't know. I think rather not just I'd
rather just not.
Speaker 4: I think feeling the full spectrum of human emotions is
an undeniable positive.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Is it hard at times? Yes? But it even goes
back to a little bit. I mean the things we
always talk about when it comes to sports, like if
you're always happy, well, how can you appreciate being happy?
They get like good times are made good in part
because you had to go through bad times to get there,
or you know what bad times feel like, so it
makes you appreciate the good times. So like, yeah, if
you're if you're just happy all the time, then then
what is life?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Like, why is everybody pulling for the Detroit Lions right now?
Same reason you're talking about. They've had zero success, they've
been a bottom feeder, and now they're all of a
sudden really good.
Speaker 5: What do they talk about with Alabama?
Speaker 6: Everybody says, hey, if you've ever been to an Alabama game,
it's like a business meeting, Like it's not even that fun.
Like they're they're too uptight, they're too serious all the
time because they've never really known.
Speaker 4: Any they don't get a first down, they're ready to
fire everyone. I mean, exactly, exactly right. Everything's a function
of your experience. So allow yourself to be sad is
what I would say a Londre like, lean into it,
try it, lean in it sometimes, put on the pixies.
Get angry, then get sad, then get angry again, then
get sad again.
Speaker 7: Anger is something that I can't suppress sometimes though, So
there we go. There's your negative emotion for me.
Speaker 4: But anger is not sadness. Getting angry is good too.
I mean, look, you know you've seen y'all have seen
me flash out and no how blind rage I can get, uh,
but that's I don't know, that's a little scary to me.
I think sadness a bit more positive. Just allow yourself
to feel a little bit. Don't don't feel like you
have to be some stone faced gollum. Just I'm not
to let the feel I must be happy because it's
what they'm supposed to be. No, just like self cry
a little bit.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 4: It's not your fault.
Speaker 7: It's really just getting to me right now when you're
talking about it.
Speaker 4: Hey, not your fault. It's not your fault two kids
from Although it's been said exercise helps, I agree why
I'm not sad because I exercise. Yeah, I do agree
with that. There is not a greater thing that you
can do for your mental health than the exercise. Uh
g n f uh in rs. This is the softest crap.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Fight me like, I don't. I don't like what like
I don't. I don't ascribe to your uh your expectations
for masculinity or or or what it should be. And
why should I you know.
Speaker 7: You know what's soft. No, the Ohio State Rep or
the Ohio Rep banning flag planning.
Speaker 4: Now, I've heard about this. I've heard.
Speaker 7: Felony a flag.
Speaker 4: So I saw some conspiracies.
Speaker 6: You know what else would be softy bob, Like if
if you if you got so offended that like if
someone mocked your symbol, it became a penalty.
Speaker 4: Horns sound which I mean, that's that's the ultimate example
of like, hey, respect yourself and know your self worth
because the Big twelve did that for Texas, And what
did it do for the Big twelve? You know it
went on there exactly. That's what I'm saying exactly, So
know your self worth and stand up for yourself when
you need to. All right, when we get back, I'm sorry,
we will, uh now we can. We can get into
a bit of the things that I actually tease. But honestly, guys,
who knows it's chosen me for the best time you
want to hang out, come on. If not, we'll see
you on Monday.
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Speaker 7: The wind is blowing, but I can where.
Speaker 4: Do I can? How much you get missed off?
Speaker 7: I've got my love you keep me?
Speaker 1: I can't remember Wesday, December. Welcome back to the best
morning sports show around. Sort of gets off the bench
with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 4: I've got my love, you keep me. Yeah, I've got
Taynor Lodger to keep you warm today, miss and Jake.
But he's in the estate warm at Army and Navy
this weekend. Uh, what an opportunity for Army here. You've
already had this amazing season. You just won the AAC
in front of your home team. So what are you
right now? Twelve and one with your only loss being
to a playoff Notre Dame, and now.
Speaker 6: And that was that was neutral sight too, that was
the Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you have a chance to beat Navy,
which is the goal every single year. I mean, you
would cap the perfect season for Army like bowl game
would be whatever. After this, that's fine, thirteen and one,
winners of the AAC in front of the home crowd
and beating Navy. Now you flip it, though, and what
is losing a Navy do because it's been an office?
Speaker 5: Is it because you didn't make the playoff in the year.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. This is a bit of a
golden ticket game for Navy. Another team that was very hot,
suffered a couple losses, still a very good year. Did
Navy finish ten and two?
Speaker 5: Nothing?
Speaker 6: Three?
Speaker 4: I believe that? Okay, But you want to talk about
what's a way to make Navy's year, which is already
a success, but just a bona fide, no argument, badass success.
You go beat Army this weekend that pageantry twelve and win. Okay,
twelve and one versus eight and three, or maybe eleven
and one ver Satan three gonna be fantastic this weekend.
A couple of modern option offenses, Horvath and Daily going
toe to toe. Love it, love it.
Speaker 5: So who you like in the game too, bub, I.
Speaker 4: Mean Army Army is clearly the better team.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 6: I think Army has a little bit better of a
quarterback as well. Well that's good. But Price and Daily
has been on another level.
Speaker 4: I mean, just look at I mean and Armies playing
great football. Look at how they finished two lane the
other day. So yeah, our Armies just slightly better this year.
I think Army wins. But but in these games, you
never know. In a rivalry game of this magnitude, this
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naughty and nice list Taylor, who was a naughty head
coach in the SEC this year.
Speaker 5: A naughty head coach.
Speaker 4: SEC.
Speaker 5: Brent Vinnables was a naughty head coach in the SEC.
Speaker 6: A lot of people stocking, A lot of people said,
you know, Oklahoma, they could sneak up on some teams
this year. And while they did sneak up on Alabama,
only two wins in the SEC.
Speaker 5: Not a good look.
Speaker 6: And you move on from Dylan Gabriel in the off
season to bring in Jackson Arnold. He struggled only to
have Jackson Arnold under the transfer portal. He's at the
top of my naughty list for.
Speaker 4: Beating at the top, okay, for beating Alabama. Though I'm
gonna sneak you like an orange in your stocking. You're
getting cold, Brent, but I'll give you like a little
orange as well.
Speaker 7: So Brent Vittables actually talked about how hard it is
to get to like play an SEC schedule yesterday. Wait,
when did they release the twenty twenty five Wednesday?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did it well, so he commented on it.
I've got it right here.
Speaker 9: Oh, probably saw six of the top ten defenses in
all of college football, and.
Speaker 4: So there was a baptism, if you will.
Speaker 9: We had a bunch of injuries that we had to
go through on offense, and so a good welcoming to
the SEC. But the length, the speed, the physicality, and
then the depth of the conference with the things having
gone through it, it's a very real thing.
Speaker 4: Ooh, I don't love that. If I'm in Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: Yeah, didn't Texas have to do the same thing.
Speaker 4: Well, they had a markedly easier schedule relative.
Speaker 5: Okay, but still they had to come in, they had
to play.
Speaker 4: I know, but I don't think that's entirely one to
one they've dealt with.
Speaker 6: They lost three running backs before the season even start.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't think it's entirely like we We knew
coming into the season that Texas. Texas had a way
easier lift than Oklahoma did. Now Texas would probably still
have done very well with Oklahoma schedule don't get me wrong,
or at least much better than Oklahoma has done. But
that just sounds like a man in vinibles who already
you don't have a great like head coaching resume to
fall back on. He's been in the acc in the
Big twelve and now he's kind of a little maybe
freaked out. But we'll see forty four million dollars by him.
Pretty good president under the tree. Uh, top of do
you want to do no? Do you want to do
naughty or a nice.
Speaker 7: Orlandra I was gonna do naughty because I thought that's
what we were doing. Okay, top of my naughty list
Hugh Freeze, Oh wow, just always because of the comments
that he made about like if we play him nine
more times, we beat him.
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, that is also the worst sound bite have
ever heard.
Speaker 7: He like threw his players under the bus and paint
thorn under the bus a whole lot of times. So
he finished five and seven. He Freeze, top of my
naughty list you have.
Speaker 4: But remember, speaking of crying, he was moved to tears
in a team meeting recently where he told his young
or his upper classman he was moved to tears because
he was so sorry that they were not going to
get to experience the fullness of what Auburn football will become.
Speaker 7: Sounds a little manipulative to me.
Speaker 4: I mean, so that's the thing about Freeze, who's always
been very nice to me on an interpersonal level, But
you see stuff like that that sounded I know we
played it on the show, but it's like there is
a televangelist element that is just really hard to shake.
And he's probably being sincere, like I do believe that,
but sometimes it's just hard to maybe get behind the
sincerity outside looking in. Maybe I'm just a bit too
cynical here in the Year of a Lord twenty twenty four.
All right, we'll continue a naughty nice list bracket. All
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