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<v Speaker 1>Greetians and salutations everyone at rich Weels and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Baseball Live. Today is only the eleventh Saturday, about

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<v Speaker 1>twelve forty in the afternoon here on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not recording on Sunday, as we discussed yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>if you listened to our Prospect podcast. But I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>with mister Tim McCloud and we've got stuff to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about for our normal Sunday show Tim on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we had our Prospect show yesterday and today doing

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunday show, looking forward to it. Had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun yesterday. I enjoyed those segments immensely.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. I know we talked. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to for everybody with the news, but I know we

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<v Speaker 1>talked yesterday about the fires. So I've got the news

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<v Speaker 1>on in the background and they've got these It was

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<v Speaker 1>cool to me. They got this gigantic plane that's called

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<v Speaker 1>a tanker and just flying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where they're from, Eh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're from, Well, they were the first fifty first state.

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<v Speaker 1>They're up in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all our water bomber crews we've sent down.

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<v Speaker 1>That is cool. I didn't know that, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually dump water. It dumped something that was red, like

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<v Speaker 1>bright red. I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's some sort of fire retired.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But those planes are those big water bombers that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of our part of our fleet, and they get regular

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<v Speaker 2>use up here. Well you've seen, you've seen the smoke

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<v Speaker 2>from our fires.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, oh, thank you very much. Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, oh, all's fair and love and smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. So we've said, like huge continent down to

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<v Speaker 2>try and help oat in California. Yeah, I got I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to. I've got to compliment so many people on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter for thanking us as a as a country, the

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<v Speaker 2>country Canada, for for going that extra mile, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>light of some of the comments that we've heard through

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter or whatever. You know, there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good people and a lot of people are very appreciative

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<v Speaker 2>and as Canadians us what we do we help out

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<v Speaker 2>our neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, very kind, very kind people. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that these water bombers were from Canada. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I literally was looking at it and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they had another plane rid next to it

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<v Speaker 1>or something. It was a beautiful view of what it

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<v Speaker 1>was doing, and then it just dumped his red dye

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's like, wow, that's really neat. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>hope it helps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we call them super tankers, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got the word tanker on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane, so I'm assuming that fits. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that we've got the little helicopters that seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be dumping water as well, so hopefully they're getting the

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<v Speaker 1>handle and stuff. I haven't really watched the news today,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, what a mess. I mean, it's just it's awful,

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<v Speaker 1>just awful.

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<v Speaker 2>They need the wins to stop them, and nobody controls

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<v Speaker 2>the winds, you know what I mean. It's that's out

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<v Speaker 2>of our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, but we've got hopefully if you're out

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<v Speaker 1>in that neck of the woods and not yet affected,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that stays that way. But at least we'll provide

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<v Speaker 1>people some distraction if you're in that part of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and if everybody else, education and distraction. We all need

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<v Speaker 1>distraction this time of time of our lives, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We, tim Yes, definitely, distraction is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of distractions, the Giants. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is a distraction, but the Giants signed Justin Verlanard to

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<v Speaker 1>a one year, fifteen million dollar contract. How the mighty

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<v Speaker 1>have fallen to him? But he's got I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote my notes. He's got to be better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to be better than he was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I was last year. And there's some chatterable the fact

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<v Speaker 2>he came back too early and got hurt again. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's forty one years old. Rushing him back is probably

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<v Speaker 2>not a not a smart move, not at that age.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'd be betting on better than last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Same with Max Schers or he dealt with a hamstring situation,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two older pitchers. Yeah, hey, if they can,

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<v Speaker 2>if they can show some health this year, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they'll be improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He was taken about three or four rounds ago

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<v Speaker 1>in my league I'm doing so I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth round or something. He was taken in that

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<v Speaker 1>That feels pretty good to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would look at him as a bench bench

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<v Speaker 2>sort of sort of slide. Hey, the days of two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred innings and three hundred strikeoachs are clearly in the

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<v Speaker 2>rearview mirror. But hey, maybe you can get one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty, hundred and forty innings out of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's some upside as a reserve pick.

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<v Speaker 1>So stat line then would be innings, pitch about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty. How many strikeouts in those hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty it needs one hundred hundred and ten something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, he hasn't pitched you

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<v Speaker 2>a strikeout inning for a few years now. Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen and ere I'm gonna go with. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go with low fours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might get a little bit of an advantage

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<v Speaker 1>being in being in San Francisco for half this game,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that might help him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's not a bad pick in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>sixth round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll look, and well, I'm not gonna look, as

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<v Speaker 1>I might create too much traffic on my computer, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just let it go. But I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty late and he was kind of on my list.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Shreser? Would you be grabbing Schureser in that

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<v Speaker 1>same area?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I can give you the I can give

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<v Speaker 2>you the gory details because I picked up Sturzer in

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<v Speaker 2>that first draft. That first draft I did, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just call it up and uh see where I grabbed him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was late. How late? Okay? Where are

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<v Speaker 2>we here? Draft results? Tic tick? Tic tic tick? My

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<v Speaker 2>hypercomputer is still working at hyper speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and you call yourself having a fast computer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a taken Forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourth round.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Okay, so we're on the twenty ninth round.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's taken. I'm looking back and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find uh, scrolling on my phone, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find Verlander.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, he was still sitting there in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth round, so I figured why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that Verlander last pick in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round. That's pretty dark. Good. Yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was on my queue, but I didn't. I didn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>pull the trigger there. So I just so we're about

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<v Speaker 1>ready to cut it in half, right, So we're almost

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<v Speaker 1>on the thirtieth round, and once that happens, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>to two hour draft pick. But I just picked up

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Teal with my twenty ninth pick, and Yariel Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 1>with my thirtieth one. Okay, yeah, so we're down to

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<v Speaker 1>that level.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I think I think we'll see those both

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. We're in Mi'm in my second one now

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<v Speaker 2>and we're in the we're heading into the eleventh round.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh tell me, tell me how your first ten picks went.

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<v Speaker 2>Decided to try a different strategy in this one. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons for it is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>in the first one, I was picking thirteenth and fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>In this one, so very very easy to have two

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<v Speaker 2>very very you know alike teams. But we went with

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<v Speaker 2>at fourteen, we moved your guy up and went lighting

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<v Speaker 2>good for you, and then went Cheerio.

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<v Speaker 1>So got Cheerio on both leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, got Cheerio in both I could. I couldn't pass

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<v Speaker 2>that one up. And then we went with Kirby.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what you did. Wait a minute, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you did and your last one. Yeah, when are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something different?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is where, this is where the difference starts,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's very much, very much so. These leagues have

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<v Speaker 4>twice a week roster moves, including pitching m HM. So decided, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I play a partner in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I have for a couple of years. We decided we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to try and shorten first base, so we

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<v Speaker 2>took Josh Naylor with our fifth pick. Interesting, wow, try

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<v Speaker 2>and shorten up first base a bit. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>took Miller in Oakland slash Sacramento with our six pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Miller. So yeah, so wait a minute, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a pitcher yet, you don't have a Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get Kirby. I'm sorry, Kirby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then we took Cruise with our seventh pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. Why you really jumped the line.

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<v Speaker 2>On that one, moved it up a bit because all

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Yeah, I did, yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And at eight, we took Zach Galen as our second starter.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really dropped this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then we came back with sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>boring a third baseman that we both like, and Alec Baum,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we took Ryan Walker with our tenth pick.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have three closers right now. And what we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do is we're going to try and go with

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<v Speaker 2>six relief pitchers, six seven relief pitchers and four four starters.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe five interesting because you can do twice a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Twice a week move. So you got Ryan Walker. Who

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<v Speaker 1>are the other two.

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<v Speaker 2>Closers, Miller and Hater? All guys?

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you get Hater?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Third round?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you you went Vlad uh CHEERYO. So you

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<v Speaker 1>got you got you got power there, you got some

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<v Speaker 1>speed with Churio. Then you came back back to back

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<v Speaker 1>with Now you went Kirby, then Hater, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>came back with Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Naylor and Miller, and then Cruise and Galen. Because

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<v Speaker 2>we're at fourteen and then bowm and Ryan Walker. We're

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna look at a middle infielder with speed for

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<v Speaker 2>our next pick. And if hey, if the right relief

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<v Speaker 2>pictures there, we'll look at another one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you brought up the concept of shortening a position.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never I mean, I understand the theory. So first

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to explain the theory, and then explain

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why would it work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you believe that there is a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>there is a shortage of talent at any position. By

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<v Speaker 2>loading up there, you're forcing people possibly to pick a

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<v Speaker 2>little earlier than they'd like and picking players that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not too keen on that won't produce at a higher level. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>granted there's the corresponding price to pay is you're shorting yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you got to make sure that. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>you can, you can cover off on the balance of

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<v Speaker 2>your positions. But I really like josh Yaler this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You're looking at the RBI numbers moving to Arizona. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're I I think there's one hundred plus there

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll take those RBIs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I get I get the pick of

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<v Speaker 1>Nailor and why you would pick him, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I understand shortening in a position.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know why would one do that. After

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<v Speaker 1>you to describe it, I still don't quite get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I are people that worried when one one extra

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, there's not enough first baseman to make

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<v Speaker 1>a jump and move on that and if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>so what I mean, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, Luisa Riies went in the tenth round.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems a little early to me. I'm glad he's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just don't know. I mean, I think, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong. I worry about my draft when

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<v Speaker 1>i'm drafting. I don't worry about trying to screw somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's draft up because I'm not. Guess I'm not smart

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The other thing is when you're picking at either corner, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows you opportunities to attempt to try and start runs,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with you know, with closers starting pitching. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we took Kirby to four, about ten pitchers went

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<v Speaker 2>in the next sixteen picks. Now a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>are going to go anyways, just because of the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>the round heading into the fourth round. But when you're

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<v Speaker 2>at the corner, you should always be looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>guy picking to your right. Okay, And we took Hater

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<v Speaker 2>before Kirby because we thought there was a chance that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd take that last league closer because the other two

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<v Speaker 2>were off the board Class A and I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>who the other one went. But again, when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you're drafting thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, you get a long way

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<v Speaker 2>between picks, So playing I'm not saying worrying about what

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<v Speaker 2>is going to happen. You have to try and set

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<v Speaker 2>yourself up so you don't have to worry as much

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<v Speaker 2>and making preemptive moves like we took Cruise at seven fourteen. Okay, now, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all the information out there says he's about ninth round

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<v Speaker 2>pick right, Well do we want to wait? Do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to wait and take a chance that he's there

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<v Speaker 2>for us in the ninth round, or do we want

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<v Speaker 2>to move him up a little bit. I'd prefer to

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<v Speaker 2>move him up and have them rather than taking the

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<v Speaker 2>chance that he's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, oh, I definitely agree with that philosophy because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if you want a player, particularly if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the end, you you generally have to jump

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<v Speaker 1>jump the line at least around maybe two. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's what you're gonna have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Cruise this year, because I think people are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>buy in. I got him in the eighth round. Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, well, I don't think outfield's overly deep, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's thirty stolen bases there so yeah, plus

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<v Speaker 2>with his hit tool, who knows, so I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>moving up on a player like that. Yeah, and hey,

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<v Speaker 2>right after us, the guy picking right after us took

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Cassis. Move him up a little bit earlier. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I again knowing that he's probably not gonna, probably not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make it back to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as I was telling, as I was telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>Cass Casses really fell on our draft for camp or

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where he went, but it was pretty late. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way I'm looking because I picked Dylan Cruise

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<v Speaker 1>the third pick in the eighth round, and then then

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<v Speaker 1>I picked Josh Nayler right after that, even a little

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<v Speaker 1>later in my my drafting he did in yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Domingus. Domingus didn't make it back to us. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>that to me says that, yeah, there wasn't to hope

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<v Speaker 2>the Cruise were to be either, because the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them are going in the radar and the pick right

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<v Speaker 2>before Dylan Cruise was Cam and Arrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I like Cam and Arrow a lot this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Trisan Cassis went second pick in the tenth round in

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<v Speaker 1>my draft. Okay, yeah, right before my Michael Trout pick.

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<v Speaker 1>You go pick Michael Trout.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, probably not, and for no reason other than the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we we need middle infielders. Yeah, Okay, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going heavy on the Onvlidi and Naylor. Uh, we need

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<v Speaker 2>some middle infield help.

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<v Speaker 1>So who are you who you're looking at? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Stott Iman as the likely you know, we're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>stolen bases. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so little get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of pop, maybe a little bit, you know not,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we gotta get we gotta get some speed, we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get We gotta come out of the next round

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<v Speaker 2>with twenty five thirty stolen bases. Anyways, So yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>middle infield is a perfect place to play that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Michael Garcia is still sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's he's going a little later at least I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where he's going in relationship to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but that that type of that type of

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<v Speaker 2>players is who will be focusing on. Maybe Zach Needo,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, gel Off, I have Mason Mason Win might

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<v Speaker 2>even sneak in there, because I like Mason Win a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of my targets and I was disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>it just work out for me in this draft. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just didn't work out. I mean I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need him where he was going, and I didn't get him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bummed about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, looking looking at the board, by us going

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<v Speaker 2>three closers right now, there's six teams or seven teams

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<v Speaker 2>that don't have a closer. Okay, that's a problem for

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<v Speaker 2>like six seven teams, and we're trying to we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to control the saves category. We'll see how it works out,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna we're gonna run relief pictures out there

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<v Speaker 2>and rotate in starting pitchers and if we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be active on the waiver wire, so I try something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, that's cool. I mean, I guess the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing about overdrafting a position like closer, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>do protect yourself a little bit because guys get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>and are ineffective, particularly at the closer position. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you come in that the counter arguments

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<v Speaker 1>all that, it doesn't matter if you if you get

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred saves and the guy in second place gets

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ten. You know, yeah, so you you

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<v Speaker 1>you wanna I think, as you're drafting, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to over draft the position, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>clobber that position because it doesn't do you any good

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<v Speaker 1>in the Artisticary League to win by ninety points.

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<v Speaker 2>No. The other thing that's sort of nice is this

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<v Speaker 2>league also pays on the category winners, all ten of

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<v Speaker 2>them small amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really that's interesting. Yeah, so again, but set your

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<v Speaker 1>you set yourself up for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be looking at guys like Brian and Bray you late,

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<v Speaker 2>Kate Smith late, A J. Puckley, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be looking for the for the high Straco relief

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers like I don't think we're probably not going to

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<v Speaker 2>look at another closer per se. But there's a slew

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<v Speaker 2>of relief pictures out there. They're consistent high STRAKEO and

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<v Speaker 2>you can get them late, relatively late. So yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Matt Stram, Yeah, that'll that'll serve the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>for what we're trying to do. So yeah, we might

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<v Speaker 2>we might draft another another closer.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of speaking of closers, which we've spent the last

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes talking about that we had two closers or

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<v Speaker 1>two bullpen arms. I guess you say that. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know from your perspective whether you see them as closers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first is the Rangers signed Chris Martin. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he is from Arlington. Uh so he's gonna it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it might be one of his last years that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be pitching. Is thirty eight years old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was pretty good when he was with the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox the last two years, but he is thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he can sneak some saves this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at roster resource and they got him at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the queue, which I'm not sure is

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<v Speaker 1>going to hold. But what's what you're thinking with Martin?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yeah, I think there's a fair chance that he

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<v Speaker 2>ends up with some saves. You know, you got Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Robert Garcia, you got Jacob Webb. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no definition right now, per se in that Ranger's bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the talk was, you know Garcia would get

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<v Speaker 2>get a show as much the same as it was

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, and Jacob Webb came over, I believe from Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it's those three and it could

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<v Speaker 2>be a mix and match. Martin, Martin good, good roll

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<v Speaker 2>with it. You know, he he could do fairly well

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<v Speaker 2>as a late round option. Yeah, I throw something down.

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<v Speaker 1>On he's gone. He's gone really late. He's still on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the board in my draft, and again we're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting hitting the thirty first round and.

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<v Speaker 2>On probably by the time the thirty second round. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>with this news, we I'll move him up.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, Yeah, I mean I was considering drafting

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<v Speaker 1>him because based on that news. But I already have

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<v Speaker 1>three closers. Well, I have two. I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 1>have any closers. I have three people that I hope

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna close. Yeah, it looks good in theory, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I still might grab Chris Martin another closer, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jay signed Jeff Hoffman, a guy that you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up on the waiver wire. I think he was the

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<v Speaker 1>top on your waiver warm in terms of mentioned last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years, thirty three million dollars, not a huge signing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Blue Jays have indicated that he might get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to close. What do you think, Yeah, I Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>Has Chad Green ever been healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>From time to time? He hasn't been consistently healthy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, I think Hoffin will work his way

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<v Speaker 2>into uh, work his way into some saves. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>if you go back a month ago they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about using Jeff Hoffman as a starter or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were looking at the possibly if as Hoffman is

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<v Speaker 2>a starter, and I think that's out the window. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll get some saves Toronto and along with

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<v Speaker 2>Chad Green. So yeah, Jay's short up their bullpen with

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<v Speaker 2>that signing. It's a good it's a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>So is the success of Michael King. And uh Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Lugo calls this rash of seemingly teams wanting to convert

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<v Speaker 1>relievers to starters.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we both know when somebody does something and it works. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and pick a number, because the que the cues formed, right,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's standing in line to give it a whirl. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hey, it worked well for Michael King, and it

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<v Speaker 2>worked well for Lugo. But again, can we say uber

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<v Speaker 2>small sample size?

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<v Speaker 1>It is and and and you know it doesn't It

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<v Speaker 1>probably is gonna not work more than it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but right now we're hearing all the success stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course, let's face it, teams are having a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time getting starting pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's an option they can explore. The is

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<v Speaker 2>a relatively inexpensive option.

422
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<v Speaker 1>Right, and h on our conversation from yesterday our podcast yesterday,

423
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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Colorado pictures and the fact that

424
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<v Speaker 1>I mean to truly count on them as probably fools

425
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:27.039
<v Speaker 1>gold and just another illustration is Jeff Hoffman was originally

426
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<v Speaker 1>signed by the Blue Jays back in twenty fourteen and

427
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>shipped to Colorado for Troy tylor Ritzky. I remember that

428
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 1>trade like it was yesterday. I remember where I was

429
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>sitting when I heard that news. That's pretty weird. Uh.

430
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:44.319
<v Speaker 2>And of course Hoffman though as a starter at that time.

431
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>It was it was a first off, was a big trade, right,

432
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tulowitzki moving kind of was he past his

433
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<v Speaker 1>prime or not? And he was past his prime? And

434
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, you like the talent that Colorado got back.

435
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 1>And but Jeff Hoffa didn't make it as a starter Tim.

436
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he really really struggled and Colorado wasn't until

437
00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>he got out of Colorado that he started to play

438
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>pitch better.

439
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the last couple of years Philadelphia have been great.

440
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>So what does that do? It does nothing but reinforce.

441
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 2>But we were talking about yesterday, right.

442
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess the counter argument is he figured something

443
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 1>out it would have happened if he stayed in Colorado,

444
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, but the fact that it didn't so

445
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And just to give a coda on my conversation because

446
00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:35.559
<v Speaker 1>I went back and listened to that section because I

447
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>thought I didn't give Dolander his due justice because we

448
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of got off on how how unlikely these Colorado

449
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 1>pictures are to be successful. Having said that, I still

450
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>like Dolander and and I know.

451
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Is a good young pitcher. He really is.

452
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Great arm and you know, the control has come together nicely.

453
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>He's developing a third pitch. All of the signs are

454
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:05.839
<v Speaker 1>lining up, and I like him, and and this might

455
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 1>be my last, you know, kind of last call here.

456
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.799
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't make it, I might finally just put

457
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the official nail in my feeling on the Colorado Rockies

458
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>pitching standpoint to say, it's just it's just never going

459
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to happen, because this is a this is an uber

460
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>talented pitcher that was better thought of coming this time

461
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>last year than Paul Skeens. I want everybody to let

462
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that sit in for a moment. Jase Olander was considered

463
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.759
<v Speaker 1>the better talent, so so the fact that he's really not,

464
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 1>because we saw what Paul Skeens can do. But he's

465
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 1>he's up there. I mean, this is not a guy

466
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 1>that you know that you people should should skip lightly. Right,

467
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.079
<v Speaker 1>So if he if he can't do it, then I

468
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 1>think that's really really telling.

469
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, if if at that point in time this that

470
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<v Speaker 2>does occur, why do the Rockies have a pitching.

471
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe they just don't need one. Maybe they've got

472
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to do something that you've always suggested. They get fifteen

473
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 1>relievers and just go with relievers the whole whole game.

474
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just wing them, wing them all out there, throw

475
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>them all out there. It's inexpensive, and nobody has a

476
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>chance to get used to anybody because they're not in

477
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 2>there long enough. Right, Fine, guys that can hit ninety

478
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>five plus and just rear back, firey in there.

479
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.079
<v Speaker 1>And my final common on Chase Dolander is I just

480
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>want to re emphasize this. I you know, in hindsight,

481
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 1>taking him first year player dress, I think it was

482
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the third round. I don't know where I got I

483
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 1>got him later than the talent would suggest. But as

484
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 1>we talked yesterday and the more I thought about it,

485
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense to take Rocky's pictures because even if,

486
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>like we said yesterday, even if they perform well, that

487
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>value is still not going to go. It's going to

488
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>take years for that value of that player to people

489
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 1>really to buy into it. So you should never draft

490
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>a Rockies pitcher because in the end they might have

491
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 1>a good year, a good stretch, et cetera. But long term,

492
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they're never going to have that value that somebody else

493
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 1>might get who blows up from one year to the next.

494
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've Dolander this year. If he wins fifteen games

495
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>and pitches to a three twenty year a with a

496
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>strakeout plus per inning, you put him on the block

497
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and I think you know what you're going to get back.

498
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Yeah. It feels and smells like where Seth

499
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Lugo was going this season. He was great last year, right,

500
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the no question got some cy young votes

501
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and rightly so. And he's going in the mid teens.

502
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 1>No one's thinking that, oh, this guy is a stut

503
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anybody's going to do that with

504
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Chase Stowlin. I don't think he's better than he where

505
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he's going now on the thirtieth or fortieth round, or whatever.

506
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>But he's never going to go in the top five rounds.

507
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Never, No, no, because it's Colorado, and pictures don't succeed

508
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>in Colorado, and even when they do succeed, it's gonna

509
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>take an extended period before people actually buy into that success.

510
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And so I would just wanted to read kind

511
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 1>of go back to that since we were talking about closers,

512
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, Hoffman was kind of the segue

513
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>into talking to you again about Colorado Pictures. And I know,

514
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're an experienced fantasy player, then why are you

515
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about this because everybody knows that. I think it's

516
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a good reminder because whenever you think there's the next

517
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 1>great hope for the Rockies, you gotta be careful.

518
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I agree, And yeah, Dolan is the perfect

519
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>guy for your team. Is your team's a very good team,

520
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>you can go and you can you can pick him

521
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>up into the second or third round because your team

522
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 2>is solid if it's not going to hurt you if

523
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work out. A lot a lot of how

524
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you address for your first year player drafts depends on

525
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the relative strengths and or weaknesses of your team, and

526
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>anybody drafting at the back of the first round has

527
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 2>got a good team because they finished in the top

528
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>three four spots a year before, so it's it's productive,

529
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>but it's also sort of counterproductive because nobody's going to

530
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.559
<v Speaker 2>take a guy like Kim Okay for the Dodgers in

531
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the first seven or eight picks, so he'll be sitting

532
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>there towards the back end of the first round, and

533
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 2>he's a perfect pick for a team that's a contending team, right.

534
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>It sort of feeds into it. It sort of feeds.

535
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we thought that about Matsasaki and that didn't

536
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>turn out well. So I mean, I think you got it.

537
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>There's risk with these Asian players that are coming over.

538
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>No offense to you, but there's risks. If I can

539
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>build on your comment about Look, when you're picking in

540
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a first in a first year player draft, you're looking

541
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 1>for what your team needs. But I think whenever you're drafting,

542
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 1>even in one year drafts, it is about value, and

543
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>in dynasty leagues, it's about what do I think the

544
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>potential value of this young player that I'm drafting, what

545
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>he can become. And I guess the problem with the

546
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Rockies is there's a ceiling on all of all of

547
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>these pictures that it doesn't matter if he becomes the

548
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>best picture in baseball, I don't know if anybody's going

549
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to buy it. So he's always going to have pressure

550
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>on the guy's ceiling. Does that make sense?

551
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does. Each type of player that you're going

552
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 2>to invest in, you're gonna you're investing in him.

553
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>To keep them. Yeah, you're not looking at a trade,

554
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 1>but but you're also looking you want you want that

555
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>investment that you make, like we all do with everything

556
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 1>in life, to grow and to become bigger than it is.

557
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 1>So if I draft him in the fourth round along

558
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.319
<v Speaker 1>with some other players, and then I try to go

559
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>sell him three or four years later after he's had

560
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>some success, and I say, well, look at this this guy.

561
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I bought him at X he should be X cube.

562
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Well he might only be X square because there's an

563
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>artificial ceiling. Maybe it's not an artificial maybe it's a

564
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>real ceiling on this guy's ultimate upside. Because he pitches

565
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 1>in Colorado or he plays wherever. He's a power hitter

566
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, and you're Bryce Eldridge. He's never going

567
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to Eldridge could hit forty home runs in a lot

568
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of other parks in San Francisco, he might be a

569
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty home run guy. So he's always going to have

570
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a lower ceiling because of that.

571
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. And then you know, then you get

572
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>average you know, average hitters playing in Arizona. Yeah, okay,

573
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 2>where the park? Yeah, where the park factors? You know, Hey,

574
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's like hit or so okay, every

575
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>time you see a trade and you're bad, you know

576
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>your hitter is going to Colorado. What's the first thing

577
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you say, he's going to Colorado. Good, we'll see a

578
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>boost in the numbers. Doesn't always work out.

579
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't always work out.

580
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>It's the mindset of the of the community is such

581
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that it will, right.

582
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hope people have to bunk that though, because

583
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>it just it hasn't happened in a long time where

584
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, there are a lot of bad players there.

585
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>See their boost, see a boost in production, but they

586
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 1>just haven't drafted well or signed well. I mean, we

587
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.599
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen the Troy Tulowitzki, who was probably a twenty

588
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 1>five home run guy, become a thirty five home run guy.

589
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't have any guys that are acquiring that have

590
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty five home run pop anymore.

591
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and you go back to the glory days.

592
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, Larry Walker and Machado, they were good, They

593
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 2>were exceptionally talented before they got there.

594
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you got to you gotta have the talent

595
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to see the big explosion on top of that, I

596
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 1>think that's the problem. The other thing is if if

597
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>there's a good power hitter, i e. Brandon Belt, you

598
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>can argue he wasn't a great power hitter. The Giants

599
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get rid of him, right because they

600
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 1>want that guy right and they said they finally got

601
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>somebody in their coffers who who they like and has

602
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>got some power. The same thing it's true with the Rockies.

603
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna trade these guys.

604
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, the Giants is trying to acquire big power

605
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>bets as akin to the Rockies trying to acquire ace

606
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>pitchers exactly.

607
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.759
<v Speaker 1>And so I think you got to think about that

608
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit when you're positioning yourself for trades and drafts.

609
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what is the ultimate upside of this guy, Like,

610
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Ronald Lacooners, who you think could be

611
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>the best player in baseball? I mean, if he's playing

612
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, unless his name is Barry Bonds, it's

613
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna happen.

614
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 2>There are challenges, yes, yeah, yeah.

615
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>To me to take a break and got one more

616
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>thing to talk about and then we'll start on your

617
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>first base rankings. It was a fun discussion.

618
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't I agree with with you the whole premise.

619
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's tough, it really is.

620
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this was an interesting one and I'm I'm anxious

621
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 1>to hear your your thoughts because I know you were

622
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>bursting out the seams to talk about it. Yesterday. And

623
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the Reds acquired Gavin Lucks from the Dodgers for outfielder

624
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike Siota and the Reds competitive balance round a selection.

625
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's pick thirty seven. So it's got some financial

626
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>flexibility that it gives the Dodgers because they typically don't

627
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>have enough money now and they're going into the you

628
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>know as caps as cap money going into these drafts.

629
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<v Speaker 1>So so we discussed the like the Dodgers were likely

630
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 1>to move on from Lux and they did, but does

631
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 1>he fit for the Reds?

632
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh? The Reds are a bit of a mess right now.

633
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>If you go to roster resource they got Gavin Luck

634
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the d H spot hitting ninth. Yeah, yeah,

635
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 2>well you got Candelari at third base, you got uh

636
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna have shown strand at first base. It's a bit

637
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>of a mess. They're talking about Matt McClain moving into

638
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 2>the outfield. Okay, so what did I do? I would

639
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>assume TJ Friedel It puts him in a bit of

640
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>a buy there. It's they got too many people that

641
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>know Noel V. Marte isn't even listed as being on

642
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 2>the roster. So eight, I would say.

643
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Led La Cruz is locked in. That's your shortstop, right, yep?

644
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Done?

645
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Is that the only infield position that's truly locked in?

646
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Because I thought Matt McLean would be. But if they're

647
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about moving him to the outfield, that's not even

648
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>locked in.

649
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 2>No, the only infield position locked in Brothers two Catcher

650
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and Stevenson and Ellie that's it.

651
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Heimer, Candelarium and they'd trade for him, so

652
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they're paying the money. He's going to play somewhere, but

653
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>he's probably a better first basement at this juncture in

654
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>his career than a third basement.

655
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So then if you move, move Candelaria the first base. Okay,

656
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>if you throw Strand into your DH slot and Gavin

657
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Lux becomes what utility? Yeah? Maybe yeah, it becomes a

658
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 2>super sub.

659
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean because there's some there are some platoon

660
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>splits there.

661
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So and unless Matt McLain goes to the outfield, he's

662
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 2>playing a second base, right or possibly third base. It's

663
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>just it's all over the place. I don't I don't

664
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>know how it's going to shake down. I think they

665
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>need to move somebody, is what they need to do.

666
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 1>I think if I think, if I'm in a draft

667
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking at this roster, I confidently select Eli

668
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 1>de la Cruz. I confidently draft Matt McClain. That's too

669
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>good of a baseball player to think that he's going

670
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a part time player. Spencer Steer, I'm I

671
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 1>feel pretty confident about him. T J Friedel know Stevens

672
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>who cares? Steven said, I do, uh so? TJ Friedel

673
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 1>know Jake Freeley, know Heimer Candelier. I guess he's got

674
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.639
<v Speaker 1>a job. He's not that good. Christenin Karny know Gavin Lux. No,

675
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Noville Marte no, I don't. I don't feel good about

676
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>any of these guys.

677
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 2>And for good cause, we have no idea how it's

678
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna shake down. And you know, hey, and I think

679
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>they're at the draft table. I think there has to

680
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>be pressure to move these guys down. Yep, yeah, are

681
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 2>you going to roll the dice on any of the guys.

682
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>We just mentioned that there's a possibility might only get

683
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>two hundred of bats.

684
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I know, and Camp Paulier, who I love, is sitting

685
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>is blocked two ways to Sunday. I didn't get this deal, man,

686
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

687
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

688
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean good, I mean, I think Gavin Lucks is

689
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a better player than he showed last year. And but

690
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't they get rid of Gavin Lux with the oh

691
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy they traded a couple of weeks ago won

692
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the Rookie of the Year a few years ago. Oh

693
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>help me, Tim, Oh you know I'm talking about anyway?

694
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 1>They just I mean, it was like they had a

695
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>guy that was similar to Gavin Lucks and they moved from,

696
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 1>they moved on from and they just bring a new

697
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 1>guy in. I don't get it.

698
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, And what they've done now is basically what the

699
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers have said is Kim is going to be their

700
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 2>everyday second basement.

701
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, so yeah, now that's easy.

702
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was easy, very easy. Once uh, Lucks is

703
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>out of the equation.

704
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, Jonathan Indyo is the guy who was thinking about

705
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 1>isn't Jonathan Di then Gavin Lucks like similar players? I

706
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 1>would think, so, yes, yeah, So so they got rid

707
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>of Jonathan India and we all cheered and a I

708
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, why are you bringing the

709
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Gavin Lucks?

710
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, India went to Kansas City, Yes he did. Yeah,

711
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>but again, a plethora of riches in Dodger Land allows them.

712
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, hey, they signed Kim on a relatively a

713
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>very friendly deal. So that makes where do they where

714
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>do they need the lux India? Where do they need

715
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 2>those guys for? They don't, do they?

716
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>They don't well, I'm sure they. I mean again, maybe

717
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they're just collecting talent and using them as trade bait

718
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>down the road. But the again we talked about multi

719
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>dimensional chess, it sounds like they're playing some really complicated

720
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 1>algorithms to try to figure out who they're going to

721
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>move and keep and so forth. And it feels a

722
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>lot like what the Rockies did. Just let me bring

723
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in a bunch of guys see what sticks, and maybe

724
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the talented guy's never going to shot. I mean, Neva

725
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Martine is a good player. Maybe they're just so pissed

726
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 1>about the eighty games extension that they don't have anything

727
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to do with the guy. Maybe that's it's it's more

728
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>complicated than that. I don't know.

729
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, Brady Singer went to the Reds

730
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>for India. Is lux an upgrade over India. I don't

731
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 2>know if he is.

732
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't I mean, India has performed better for the

733
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. So he's a little bit younger,

734
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's it.

735
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 2>He takes a walk. His OBB was three fifty says

736
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>his OBP has been you know in three seventy six,

737
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:50.039
<v Speaker 2>three twenty seven, thirty eight, three fifty seven. Yeah, it's yeah,

738
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the Reds are shuffling the deck, but they still got

739
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they still got too many parts. Yeah.

740
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It was funny because the Reds front office was voted

741
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>as saying, look, everybody says, we've got all this infield depth.

742
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And he went through each position and how poorly they performed.

743
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 1>But I was thinking Matt McClean was hurt. Novill Marte

744
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>was out for half the season, Chris and In Carnacione

745
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:21.119
<v Speaker 1>was hurt. So I mean, yes, don't you take a

746
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.599
<v Speaker 1>look at that as extenuating circumstances and go in a minute,

747
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 1>we had good players, did they just get a chance.

748
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what happens when they're healthy. Wouldn't that be

749
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a rational thought process?

750
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's too rational.

751
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know.

752
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I know if I was running that team,

753
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd want to see what health rings the following year

754
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>before I started shuffling the deck.

755
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, we played, we playing dynasty leagues, and we take

756
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a look at last year, and if we if we

757
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 1>saw our guys on the eye ow and a poor

758
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>poor uh kind of placement in the standings, we would

759
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>probably say, yeah, my guy hurt. Let's see what's going

760
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 1>to happen. We went and start trading everybody.

761
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, not unless you want to finish worse than you

762
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>did the year where everybody was hurt. Yeah, because you're

763
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>not going to get full value, are you. No?

764
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, And it's I think it's a

765
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>head scratcher. I don't I don't get it.

766
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I don't get it either. And it's sort

767
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>of a shame because the Reds do have some talent, yeah,

768
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>but utilizing it doesn't appear to be their forte at

769
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 2>this stage.

770
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Look at Ellie Dela Cruz has chance to be, you know,

771
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 1>one of the best players in the league, one of

772
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the most exciting players in the league at a huge

773
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 1>drawl at home and on the on the road. I mean,

774
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy you want to surround, surround players with.

775
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's but they got to I think they got

776
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 1>some good, complimentary players. They just got to give them

777
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a chance to play well exactly.

778
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the Candelarius should not be holding up Strand

779
00:42:58.280 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 2>or Noel vi Marte.

780
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 1>I think the Baltimore Orioles, as much as we beat

781
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 1>them up about their pitching, they've done an outstanding job

782
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>at developing talent giving that talent a chance to play

783
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and perform. Yeah, and like what it's a copycat league, right,

784
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why don't you do that? I mean not

785
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 1>that maybe Cincinnati Reds have the exact level of talent

786
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that the Orioles have, but it's pretty close. If you

787
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, put led La Cruz and Gunner Henderson as

788
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, equal kind of talent. Maybe Dela Cruz might

789
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 1>be higher there's a lot of similarities in those two

790
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>systems in terms of the talent they brought up, and

791
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 1>yet one is methodically going through and giving the young

792
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>kids a shot, and it just feels like the Reds

793
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 1>are like, I don't know if I believe in this guy.

794
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on.

795
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 2>The word flailing comes to money.

796
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>It really does Timmy to take a break, we get back.

797
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's do your first base rankings.

798
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm really anxious to hear this first discussion because

799
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.960
<v Speaker 5>I think that first base is a real challenge.

800
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been challenging for years. I don't see

801
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 1>anything in the minor leagues that would would lead me

802
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, it's going to get better, like we

803
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 1>saw with catching, How are you handling first base this season?

804
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>How am I handling first base? I want and my

805
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 2>goal is to procure solid, talented first base. And so

806
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>far in two drafts, one of them, I've got Tristan

807
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Casses for the upside, and the other one I've got

808
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Vlidi and Josh Naylor. So so far, it's going pretty

809
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>much to script. Anybody after about the under that top tier,

810
00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>after about pick ten or eleven, they become corner infielders.

811
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, I don't want to have Cody Bellinger, okay,

812
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 2>as my everyday first baseman. I don't want Paul Goldschmid,

813
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Michael Bush Togli No, I don't want any of those

814
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 2>players as my first basement. As a corner infield, yeah,

815
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>that's a different story, but not anchoring first base for me,

816
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>it's gotta be I hate coming out if I don't

817
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.559
<v Speaker 2>have Flattie or Harper or Olsen or Freeman or Naylor,

818
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>it'd be that top. I'm not gonna feel happy.

819
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I one thousand agree with you. You said it perfectly.

820
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I totally right in there with you. And that's why

821
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I think Lad's got the setup is perfect for him

822
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this season, with his last year in Toronto. He might

823
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>even get moved at the deadline. I think he's gonna

824
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>be motivated. He's a good player. With a good season

825
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:03.599
<v Speaker 1>last year and the fact that it falls off so quickly,

826
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it's in a blank, You're you're down to, you know,

827
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 1>the spencer of Jake Bergers of the world, and it's like,

828
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>oh man, so.

829
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, hey, Jake, Jake Berger could post to

830
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.920
<v Speaker 2>eighty OBP and uh a two hundred batting average this year.

831
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's gonna come with thirty thirty five on runs.

832
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 3>That's good.

833
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.559
<v Speaker 1>But those are flawed players.

834
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there there is a flaw basically in every player

835
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 2>after about pick ten eleven.

836
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

837
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Not enough power, okay, not enough speed, not enough batting average.

838
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah, there's a lot of flawed flowed players,

839
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a slew of them.

840
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 1>So let's go through your list. I have sent you

841
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the spreadsheet. Do you have the updated spreadsheet?

842
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 2>It is right in front of me, and I love it.

843
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 2>That's it's a great, great, great vehicle to be discussed,

844
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>all of positions by anything. Just there. It's there.

845
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 1>It's there, so or if you want to get this

846
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 1>unless you got to our patroon site and U it's

847
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 1>all out there for our Patreon members as well. So

848
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 1>first two were boring. Timmy all chalk, Lad Gerrera one.

849
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Harper, iwo, you've got his lad Junior's ADP is

850
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>fourteen point four. Bryce Harper's twenty point nine. Yeah, Bryce

851
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Harper is Bryce Harper. I mean, is there anything to

852
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 1>say more about those guys?

853
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Not really? I think a pencil in Harper for thirty homers,

854
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>A handful of stolen basin in an ops in the

855
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred Granger. He's a good player, solid, definitely, I'll

856
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>say great production at first base.

857
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Matt Olsen tough season last Year's no denying

858
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 1>he was not the same guy. I mean, you got

859
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>him chalk thirty five. He's going top of the first

860
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>top of the third round. Last year he was a

861
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 1>late first round, early second round pick. Do you think

862
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>there's value here on the top of the third round

863
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 1>with him.

864
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have any problems with matt Oles and

865
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 2>after about the middle back end of the second round. Yeah,

866
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 2>he had a down year last year. He still had

867
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine homers and drove in what ninety eight runs.

868
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Many of players are gonna call it a good year, right, Yeah,

869
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>so what's to say. I think he's twenty nine years old.

870
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>A bounce back could be in order with mad Oles,

871
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And then even if it isn't, I'll take thirty one hundred.

872
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 2>It's good production coming from first base, especially when you

873
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>look at the piers.

874
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 1>So thirty nine home runs in twenty one, thirty four

875
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and twenty two, fifty four and twenty three, twenty nine

876
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 1>and twenty four. One of those numbers doesn't fit twenty nine,

877
00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll think the twenty nine fits, or you think the

878
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty four doesn't fit.

879
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I think he could. Hey, it was an amazing year.

880
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Could you do it again? Sure? Yeah, he did it once.

881
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I think there's enough power there that he can hit

882
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>thirty five to forty home runs fair lately. I would

883
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 2>put the odds higher at thirty five to forty than

884
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:21.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty five to thirty.

885
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh thoughts, I think he isn't the floor twenty five

886
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 1>to thirty and the upside thirty five to forty.

887
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say I've got the floor at

888
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 2>about thirty one hundred.

889
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I.

890
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Mean, look, I'm looking at the data. Eighty fifth percent

891
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>on AVERAGEXA velocity, hard hit rates eighty three percent. Style

892
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 1>bat speed is at eighty percent. This is a guy

893
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 1>who makes really hard contact. His square up rate the

894
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 1>ability to get the maximum the maximum result out of

895
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 1>his swing and his bats swing is not good. It's

896
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>at five and he's got a big launch angle, so

897
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he's got a lot of uppercut, a lot of strength,

898
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>but he's not, according to the data, he is not

899
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>using it very effectively. So just kind of hold that

900
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>as you know, something that he probably needs to improve on.

901
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what the other intangible that you've

902
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 2>got to work in there with those, and it's just

903
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>about everybody on the Braves team was hurt last year.

904
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe he's still trying to do too much.

905
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the club host couldn't have been a bundle of joy. Yeah,

906
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 2>every time they have, every time they got sort of untracked,

907
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>somebody else went down. Right, it's got to be a

908
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit mentally discouraging. I I know, you say, oh,

909
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 2>they're all pros, you know the work, but that's got

910
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to have an effect on the few remaining players that

911
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 2>actually made it through the season.

912
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Looking at his spray chart, it's pretty interesting. And

913
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty three power to pull site power was still prevalent,

914
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>but there was a lot of opposite field home runs

915
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>dead center field home runs. In twenty twenty four all

916
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>but three we're pull home runs. So that might be

917
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 1>a guy who was pressing a little bit and stepping

918
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in the buck and trying to make something happen as

919
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 1>opposed to hitting the ball where it's pitched and knowing

920
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that he's got the strength to hit everything out.

921
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, and let's face it with, you know, with Riley

922
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and Albie's and cunoll. Oh, there would be pressure on

923
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>him to perform, right, Whereas you get those three in

924
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the lineup and he just goes up to Lodi Da

925
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and away you go.

926
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, you have Olsen going before Freddy Freeman, which I

927
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>applaud you for. I think that's the right move. Freddy

928
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Freeman is a is you know, stalwart until he's not?

929
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say?

930
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

931
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.559
<v Speaker 2>And he's heading into his age thirty six season. Okay,

932
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 2>he's coming off ankle surgery to clear up some loose bodies,

933
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 2>an ankle that bothered him most of the last season.

934
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Are we going to see Freddie Freeman stealing on twenty

935
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 2>bases this year? I highly go to yeah. Right, And

936
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 2>with the age factor, I just figured it's time to Hey,

937
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not predicting Newman gloom for Freddie Freeman, but hey,

938
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 2>did decline has to happen at some point in time,

939
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and at age thirty six. If it's not this year,

940
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 2>it'll be next year the year after, right, So I

941
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 2>just wonder, Yeah, he's no spring check and still a

942
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>great player, but I can tell you I will probably

943
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.679
<v Speaker 2>won't have Freddy Freeman be on that many of my

944
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 2>teams this year.

945
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I did a breakdown of him last year when I

946
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 1>was doing my targets and he was a do not

947
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 1>draft in the set for a second round. I was

948
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 1>seeing some real concerning items in his data that was

949
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>pointing to we're starting to see the decline and I

950
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to be I don't want to be

951
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>on board when the decline hits.

952
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and looking at it realistically, it's Freddie Freeman gonna

953
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>even if he's hundred percent, he's not gonna get in

954
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>six hundred plus at bats. Yeah, the playoffs, the World Series,

955
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what counts, right, yep, yep, yeah, yeah, Yeah, He'll

956
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>have his days off here and there, and he should.

957
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Josh Naylor comes in at number five. That is your

958
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.079
<v Speaker 1>top five. And Naylor, you jumped ahead of Pete Alonzo

959
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and mister Perez.

960
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did. And I like what I saw in Cleveland.

961
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't think moving to Arizona and having Corbyn Carroll

962
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>and Katel Marte hitting in front of him is going

963
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 2>to It's gonna hurt him one bit. The park is

964
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the parks of plus and let's face it, with Pete

965
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Alonso still has a sign last year, the strikeouts were up,

966
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 2>the power was down. Yeah, sal Perez, are you gonna

967
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>use him at first base? No, You're probably gonna use

968
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>him a catcher, right yep. So to me, it makes

969
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>all the sense in the world to move Nayler up

970
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 2>into the fifth spot.

971
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Agreed. I I'm worried about Peter Alanza this year a lot,

972
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and the longer he doesn't sign, I think, the more

973
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>concern I get. He is a guy that is uber

974
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 1>confident and I think will be a little disappointed that

975
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's working out this way for him.

976
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he might end up with Jay's on a one

977
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>year deal. Yeah, Yeah, there's something along those lines.

978
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I was but wait a minute, where does who?

979
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Where does lap play? Does he does DH?

980
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>They can rotate them all around, they can come up

981
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 2>alons or to the DH slut.

982
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah that's a possibility.

983
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was top tempted to move Vinp right up

984
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.119
<v Speaker 2>behind Josh Naylor because I really liked what I saw

985
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 2>from Pascentino last year, and he missed a month the

986
00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>last month of the season he missed.

987
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm aware. Yeah, I have viny P everywhere on one

988
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>year leagues, on Fantasy Dynasty leagues, I have any P everywhere, So.

989
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little I'm a little higher on him

990
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 2>than the NFBC, but I think it's warranting.

991
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>He's one. Yeah, he's one of my targets. If you've

992
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>read my material, it was one of my targets last

993
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>one of my targets this year. You can never predict RBIs.

994
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But hitting behind Bobby Wood Junior, that's that's that's a

995
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>good thing. Mm hmm.

996
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I like him. I like them a lot.

997
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.679
<v Speaker 2>If I had to pick somebody to rise up, rise

998
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>up this list in a big way. If we're looking

999
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>at this question a year from now, Vinny p would

1000
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 2>be my He'd be one of one of those guys

1001
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.719
<v Speaker 2>to move up. Yeah, I think the potential there.

1002
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I agree. And as Tim said, it starts to get

1003
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.519
<v Speaker 1>a little dicey after Tristian Castles, but Christian Walker still

1004
00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>solid and uh with the Houston Astros and Tristan Casses.

1005
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about him for a moment. You know you

1006
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 1>were expecting a big breakout last season. We didn't really

1007
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>have it. Is Is this year going to be the year?

1008
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Ah? I'm thinking yes, what does sort of trouble me?

1009
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of chatter out of Boston about moving.

1010
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Casses, trading him.

1011
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they you know, Craig

1012
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Reslu actually had to come ot to you know, at

1013
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the end of December and say they are not shopping cases.

1014
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's just media, if you meet,

1015
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 2>if media fueld or well I just.

1016
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Read it the last week that you know, those those

1017
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>rumors have surfaced again.

1018
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know he had thirteen homers last year in

1019
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and twelve bats. Well, there's thirty five thirty

1020
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.679
<v Speaker 2>five I think to forty home runs in that bat

1021
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.679
<v Speaker 2>if he stays on the field. We saw twenty four

1022
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 2>of them and his in his full rookie season. Yeah,

1023
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a thirty plus home run type bat.

1024
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why they're Red Sox would be

1025
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 2>looking at moving him. It's got to be something that

1026
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:06.119
<v Speaker 2>we're not privy to and probably never will be. But

1027
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I like Castes. I think the upside is warranting and

1028
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I think he's proved even in his brief career that

1029
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you're you're looking at a probably a two sixty bat

1030
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>with thirty plus home run potential. Yeah, I'm investing this year.

1031
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't see the two sixty bat I think there's

1032
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the real pressure on his batting average because he strikes

1033
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:33.679
<v Speaker 1>out a ton. Last year's expected batting average was two nineteen.

1034
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty three was two fifty three. So let's he

1035
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.519
<v Speaker 1>improves that strikeout rate. There's no speed. I think there's

1036
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 1>huge power. There's no question about looking at his hard

1037
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 1>hit rates and batspeed. It's all sitting there, and he'll

1038
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 1>have a high batting average, balls and play because he's

1039
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>got the ball hard. But I don't to sixty might be,

1040
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 1>might be a stretch of my view. I think I

1041
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 1>would get thirty.

1042
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm bullish. I want to

1043
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 2>see this kid succeed. And to be honest with you,

1044
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a vested interest in any of my

1045
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 2>dynasty keeper leagues.

1046
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I don't either. Unfortunately, I think he's a he's

1047
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a good that's a good asset in those leagues. Let's

1048
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 1>take a break to me come back and do uh

1049
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:22.199
<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen more?

1050
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1051
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Coming at number eleven is Spencer Steer, number twelve, Jake Berger.

1052
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Cody Bellinger comes in at thirteen. Paul Goldchmid at fourteen wound,

1053
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Paul Goldschmith just just dropping, and then Michael Bush at fifteen,

1054
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Michael totally at Tames Buddy, Michael Togalia, Reyese Hoskins at

1055
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>at seventeen MP. Tim has a lot of law for

1056
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Reese Hoskins, Jake Cronenworth at eighteen. Nathaniel Lowe used to

1057
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:56.719
<v Speaker 1>be Nate low. I guess he's changing. And Tim has

1058
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>no love at all for lewis a rise Okay.

1059
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yep, simple nothing, Jacber.

1060
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean Spencer Steer speed and power last season outfield eligible.

1061
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Should he be higher than where he.

1062
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Is, I would move I would move him up. Possibly.

1063
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the grouping of Walker Castes. I

1064
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 2>just can't move him right now, simply because I think

1065
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I cherished the power a little bit more than the

1066
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 2>speed at first base. But again, Spencer Steer is a

1067
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:43.760
<v Speaker 2>fine outfielder. Okay. What I did find interesting is, you know,

1068
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the batting average should correct somewhat. Okay, as you know,

1069
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the Babbitt babbit dropped in a big way from twenty

1070
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>three to twenty four, so I'm expecting that dip in

1071
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the batting average to correct itself at least a bit

1072
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 2>but if if you look at his numbers, they're incredibly

1073
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.519
<v Speaker 2>consistent over the past two years. I feel comfortable with

1074
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Steer. I didn't a year ago, but with two

1075
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>years virtually identical years back to you know, I'm back

1076
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to back. Yeah, I'm I like Spencer Steer.

1077
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Cody Bellinger. You can make the argument that this player

1078
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 1>should perform well next season or this coming season. He's

1079
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>in New York, the park has made for him. He's

1080
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 1>once again looking to have that big score. But he

1081
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>could be a guy that never gets the big score

1082
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>because the data never looks good on this guy. Is

1083
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 1>there an opportunity for Cody Bellinger to be much better

1084
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 1>than the thirteenth first basement off the board?

1085
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there is. Yeah. All he's got to do is

1086
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.960
<v Speaker 2>what he did in twenty twenty three. Okay, Steal twenty bases,

1087
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 2>hit twenty five to thirty home runs, driving one hundred

1088
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and score one hundred. Yeah, that moves him up. I

1089
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 2>don't see it. I don't think it's going to happen.

1090
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>So I am staying away again. More questions right now

1091
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.079
<v Speaker 2>than answer. Say, if you take a look, you go

1092
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 2>back to twenty nineteen when he hit the forty seven

1093
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 2>home runs. You know, we know the story. You know,

1094
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 2>starting in twenty twenty twelve, oh By ten, nineteen, twenty six, eighteen.

1095
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's only hit twenty he's only passed twenty

1096
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:30.840
<v Speaker 2>homers once in the past five years.

1097
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Just doesn't hit the ball very hard.

1098
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 2>That's not good odds it.

1099
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>No, the data does not support that he's a power hitter.

1100
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and.

1101
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not buying. I'm not going to pay the price.

1102
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 1>What I find interesting at the end of Cody Bellinger,

1103
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 1>if we look at that round tim where these guys

1104
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.079
<v Speaker 1>are going, all of them are single digits. So Cody

1105
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Bellinger eight, Jake Berger nine, Steer eight, Tristan Casses eight,

1106
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we're at the topeen guys all of a sudden, the

1107
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>realm of everybody after that thirteenth round, seventeenth round, thirteenth round,

1108
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 1>twentieth twentieth, eighteen thirteen. I think that to me is

1109
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:17.880
<v Speaker 1>just so illustrious of how this thing drops off in

1110
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a hurry and you just don't want to wait too

1111
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>long for first base.

1112
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think I think Burger and Bellinger are

1113
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 2>overvalued in rounds nine and eight. There you go, yeah, yes, yeah,

1114
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.639
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it falls off a clip once you get

1115
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.920
<v Speaker 2>through the first ten twelve guys, Yeah, like a big clip,

1116
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know when you're talking in the ten to twenty range.

1117
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:48.639
<v Speaker 2>We've got two twenties, seventeen and an eighteen eighteenth round

1118
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 2>in your top twenty.

1119
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1120
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that don't match up well, does it now?

1121
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And that includes in a less a rise in the

1122
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.119
<v Speaker 1>third I mean, I mean, yeah, it's it gets ugly

1123
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in a hurry, everybody, So just just know that going

1124
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 1>into it. Number fifteenth is Michael Bush. You like him

1125
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 1>four more than where he's going in the NFBC. I

1126
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 1>love your your your common to bird in the hand

1127
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 1>is worth two in the bush. I don't know what

1128
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 1>it means, but like, is this a guy that what

1129
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:20.239
<v Speaker 1>it is?

1130
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.719
<v Speaker 2>What it is? It is? Take it, okay, fancy, I

1131
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 2>think Michael Bush will give you twenty to twenty five

1132
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>home runs eighty RBIs.

1133
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So you don't see growth here.

1134
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't see huge growth potential. No, I think

1135
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:36.199
<v Speaker 2>he is what he is. But take it or you

1136
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:42.840
<v Speaker 2>might end up debating some considerably lesser potential type players

1137
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in a hurry.

1138
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was funny last season. I remember it when

1139
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I was doing my NFBC Draft. He was traded from

1140
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers to the Cubs during the middle of it,

1141
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was so excited because I was maybe twelve

1142
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 1>spots away from getting a chance to get Michael Bush

1143
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>twentieth round or something like that, and I think he

1144
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 1>went two slots before I got it. I was really

1145
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 1>disappointed because people I clearly didn't believe or didn't catch it,

1146
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>but I got Cold Keith instead. I haven't compared their

1147
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:24.239
<v Speaker 1>their their stat lines, but I think cold Keith's the

1148
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:24.880
<v Speaker 1>better player.

1149
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's got I think he's got more potential. Yeah, yeah,

1150
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I think there's an upside there. And I see Michael Bush.

1151
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 2>He's an okay player, he really is. But I don't

1152
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 2>see thirty five homers and one hundred and ten RBI

1153
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.480
<v Speaker 2>seasons other Michael Bush moving forward.

1154
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I don't. I don't either.

1155
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like I said, I think he's a good player,

1156
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he'll be a great player.

1157
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But then the day was okay with him. I mean again,

1158
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.679
<v Speaker 1>it's doesn't hit the hits the ball pretty hard, bat

1159
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 1>speed's not great, doesn't chase very often, a lot of strikeouts,

1160
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 1>walks a ton, so that sounded a little bit like, uh,

1161
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 1>forgot who we were talking about, but that's an okay player.

1162
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I could see Michael Bush moving up as high

1163
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 2>as eleven twelve next year based on who's head who

1164
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I have ahead of him right now, Paul Goldschmid, Cody

1165
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Bellinger and Jake Berger. Yeah, yeah, and I think he

1166
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 2>will be. I think he'll be in an asset in

1167
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.920
<v Speaker 2>our game. But I just I don't see the big numbers.

1168
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be safe, floor boring, but

1169
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 2>not a bad guy to have. I think he's better

1170
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.719
<v Speaker 2>than the seventeenth round value, that's for sure.

1171
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Your buddy, Michael Togley. Anything to say more about him

1172
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 1>except your undying love for Michael Toglio.

1173
01:05:54.719 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm actually I'm actually one lower in the NBCSY

1174
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.159
<v Speaker 2>know would if he hit thirty five homers with a

1175
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 2>two ten batting average next year?

1176
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.920
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so. No. No, it's got big power.

1177
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 2>He's got big power, and it comes with the bonus

1178
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of a ton of swinging mess right.

1179
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd recall let me look at the date. I

1180
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.039
<v Speaker 1>recall him not having great bat speed. Now it's got

1181
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good batspeed, huge raw power, yeah, just so

1182
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:29.599
<v Speaker 1>much swing and missing his game.

1183
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

1184
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so is expected batting average last year was

1185
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 1>two forty four because he hits the ball so hard.

1186
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Average ex velocity is ninety two point one miles an hour. Whoa,

1187
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:46.199
<v Speaker 1>that's that's big boy power. Reye. Hoskins said, you brought

1188
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 1>him up six. I mean, based on everything that's in there,

1189
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>at least he's gonna hit twenty five home runs.

1190
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow, he ain't looking at the past. Yeah, looking at

1191
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the past three seasons, he's he's yeah, he can, he

1192
01:06:58.760 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 2>can hit for power, but.

1193
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:02.639
<v Speaker 1>It's certainly no badding knowlage.

1194
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it certainly leaves me sort of sad. I liked

1195
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 2>g Reese Tomskin's a lot coming into the league, and

1196
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.039
<v Speaker 2>what we saw in twenty eighteen, that first first season.

1197
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:16.960
<v Speaker 2>He's just never combination of health and he's just never

1198
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>duplicated that. So it sorta of leaves me a little

1199
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:24.199
<v Speaker 2>bummed out. I had high hopes for Reson Reese Hoskins

1200
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 2>going back about five six years ago.

1201
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 1>It came up as affiliate. If I recall, it's fascinating though,

1202
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 1>if they take a look at twenty twenty one, huge

1203
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.719
<v Speaker 1>raw power, the data supported that two thousand and twenty

1204
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:40.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty two a huge raw power. He missed twenty twenty

1205
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 1>three with an injury, and then last year, I mean

1206
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the power was down. So I mean he is thirty one,

1207
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 1>so maybe I don't know, maybe he just wasn't completely healthy.

1208
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe there's been that big of a drop

1209
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 1>off from age twenty nine to thirty one. I guess

1210
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it's possible. So yeah, but you know, the twenty six

1211
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.920
<v Speaker 1>arm runs is probably a gift, but the two fourteen

1212
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:07.360
<v Speaker 1>batting average is tough to take.

1213
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to go and exchange that gift to

1214
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.199
<v Speaker 2>customer service at some point.

1215
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Ye, Jake croni Worth, who I liked, I'll forget. He

1216
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.319
<v Speaker 1>is second base eligible too if he comes in at

1217
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 1>number eighteen.

1218
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, seventeen home runs, five stolen bases. You

1219
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.960
<v Speaker 2>look at his batting average and OBP over the past

1220
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.880
<v Speaker 2>three years two thirty nine, two twenty nine, two forty

1221
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 2>one OBP three thirty two, three twelve, three, twenty four. Hey,

1222
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 2>he's a fine little player, but I think he's of

1223
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:40.119
<v Speaker 2>more value in your middle infield, yep than he is

1224
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 2>at first base.

1225
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a he's a corner in the middle. I

1226
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.399
<v Speaker 1>agree with that, but it's still not a bad player

1227
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in the twentieth round. No, No, neither is Nathaniel Lowe.

1228
01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the same sort of situation. I think low could

1229
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 2>see a spike up because of the move to Washington.

1230
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.880
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna move up in the order. Woman think him

1231
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.640
<v Speaker 2>with all those uh uber talented kids. Yeah, there could

1232
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.119
<v Speaker 2>be more more players on bass room to drive in.

1233
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I I started like, I started, like, what was a

1234
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 2>corner infield type Lewis Arise.

1235
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to talk about him because I

1236
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.159
<v Speaker 1>think everybody knows if you take Lewis Arise, you've done

1237
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:19.880
<v Speaker 1>something wrong.

1238
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:24.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I just put batting average, run score. There's

1239
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 2>still just two categories, right, Yeah.

1240
01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:30.359
<v Speaker 1>It's Tim's that's Tim saying he doesn't contribute to the

1241
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 1>other three. Cause anybody's trying to figure out the subtleties

1242
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of the great Tim McCloud. Let me clue you in

1243
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 1>after spending on many years with them, that is the subtlety.

1244
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 1>He is not accentuating the positive. He is accentuating the negative.

1245
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 2>There is there is.

1246
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Exactly uh twenty one through thirty Luke rally Christian and

1247
01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 1>caressing and Stan Yany Diaz, Spencer Horowitz, your buddy, Spencer Horwitz,

1248
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:01.880
<v Speaker 1>five up on him, Ryan Montcastle, Andrew vaugh Nolan Shanywell, him,

1249
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Her Candelaria, Jonah Bright and good old Tyler Sodastrom and Timmy.

1250
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you, Spencer, Porkle said, nowhere in that list,

1251
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:16.760
<v Speaker 1>but it is disappointing. Nonetheless. In Carlos on Strand, what

1252
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 1>do we think? Man?

1253
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:23.880
<v Speaker 2>He killed it in twenty three and in only you

1254
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 2>know a little bit more than two hundred at bats.

1255
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm hurt last year though, yeah, he was hurt last year.

1256
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably I don't know what the Reds are gonna do.

1257
01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 2>They should find a way to get Martelle under that

1258
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.680
<v Speaker 2>everyday lineup. They Strand should be playing every day. I

1259
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:45.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're going to. I'm I'm staying away

1260
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 2>simply because there's more questions than there are answers right now.

1261
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.119
<v Speaker 2>And if I'm going to gamble on a younger player,

1262
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:54.359
<v Speaker 2>even in around sixteen, there's got to be other options.

1263
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not do the Reds. You know, we discussed

1264
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.600
<v Speaker 2>it just a few minutes ago. They know what they're doing.

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01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:03.720
<v Speaker 2>It begs that question doesn't it.

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01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it does. The great John dene Is continues to

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01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 1>be Tim's best buddy because Spencer Horowitz now has moved

1268
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:17.399
<v Speaker 1>over there and temmis suggestin he is a potential corner

1269
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:22.319
<v Speaker 1>infielder for you. So, uh, explain yourself, McLeod.

1270
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think John Dene's rushing out to buy

1271
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:25.800
<v Speaker 2>season tickets.

1272
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But so John, John dene everybody knows he's a huge

1273
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.319
<v Speaker 1>He's a huge uh supporter of our our stuff that

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01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.479
<v Speaker 1>we righte we we We like John a lot. I

1275
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:38.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's a Pittsburgh Pirate fan. I know he once was,

1276
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.159
<v Speaker 1>but there's so much snark about his Pittsburgh Pirate fandom

1277
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>now I'm not sure if he's still a Pittsburgh Pirate

1278
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 1>fan or not.

1279
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you know, I think he's a fan. He just

1280
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to admit it. Okay, he's in the denial.

1281
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:55.680
<v Speaker 1>He's in that. He's in that bitter the bitter phase.

1282
01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:59.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's pretty funny, So he doesn't. He never

1283
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.920
<v Speaker 1>loses out on an opportunity. Whenever something happens to the Pirates,

1284
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:04.680
<v Speaker 1>John dene is all over it.

1285
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he most certainly, and then for good cause, let's

1286
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:14.399
<v Speaker 2>face it, that that is not exactly the the best

1287
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.920
<v Speaker 2>run organization. Yeah, there's lots of he gets lots of

1288
01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 2>opportunity for Snart. I like Horowitz. Yeah, I think Horowitz

1289
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.000
<v Speaker 2>can give you. He can give you twenty home runs.

1290
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he can give you seventy seventy RBIs and

1291
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a decent betting average. Plus he also qualifies at second base,

1292
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:37.119
<v Speaker 2>so there's middle infield opportunities. I sort of like Horowitz,

1293
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:39.199
<v Speaker 2>not sort off. I do like Horowitz.

1294
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the under.

1295
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.199
<v Speaker 2>I would. I would take him before Ryan Mountcastle and

1296
01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Andrew baughd definitely no, and I was half tempted for

1297
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 2>them ahead of Andy Diaz, who I'm not a huge

1298
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 2>fan of.

1299
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's an older player, great ability to make contact,

1300
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:01.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like he could likes, you know, mash like nails

1301
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 1>with his hand or something. A guy looks like he's huge,

1302
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but there's no power there. There's absolutely no leverage in

1303
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a swing none.

1304
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1305
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So but do you see the guy's biceps, right, I

1306
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>mean they're gigantic.

1307
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he looks he looks like he could hit.

1308
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Forty Yeah, yeah, exactly he is.

1309
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know he's broken twenty home runs I

1310
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 2>think once in his career. I know, I know, yeah,

1311
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 2>but I mean again, do you want do you want

1312
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the batting average OVP hope? Because other than that, he's

1313
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:37.600
<v Speaker 2>not helping you much, is he?

1314
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 1>No, he's not. And he plays on a questionable team

1315
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not sure how good that team is going

1316
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to be.

1317
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot is going to depend on Junior

1318
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Camonaro and how and how he and how he eventually

1319
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 2>plays this year. I have no concerns about camon arow

1320
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 2>long term, but it is he's a young player, right.

1321
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's let's put the hopes on dreams on

1322
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.239
<v Speaker 1>our team on a twenty one year old barely not

1323
01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.920
<v Speaker 1>eligible for Rookie of the Year this year. So that's

1324
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.439
<v Speaker 1>that's tough. That's tough to lay on. I love Junior

1325
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Canari camin Area long term, but that's a lot to

1326
01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>put on him, and unfortunately, I think you're right. I

1327
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.479
<v Speaker 1>think as it does land on him.

1328
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, you look at the raised lineup and there's a

1329
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 2>few question marks.

1330
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing, there's just nothing there. It's just every time,

1331
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the people in the front office are just

1332
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:36.920
<v Speaker 1>going damn wanderfrontco because that was the guy that was there,

1333
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that was their.

1334
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 6>Stud and I was that was her future and then

1335
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 6>for having a five years, that was the guy they

1336
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:47.520
<v Speaker 6>were going to build the team around. And it just

1337
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 6>is really sickening.

1338
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Andrew Vaughn still hoping he does something.

1339
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Well.

1340
01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's fairly save seventy type floor

1341
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 2>more potentially if you can get away from the White Sox.

1342
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I got him at twenty six. Yeah, if

1343
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for a corner infield with twenty seventy type potential, yeah,

1344
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what he's going to give you. And the reason

1345
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I have Luke Luke Brayley. I think it's twenty seventy

1346
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 2>guy too, but he's gonna throw some speed in there

1347
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and field eligibility. So I sort of like, yeah, you

1348
01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:24.800
<v Speaker 2>take a look at Raley. I've got him six slots

1349
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:30.560
<v Speaker 2>ahead of the NBC crew. But I think that eligibility

1350
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit of speed it counts for a

1351
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:35.640
<v Speaker 2>bit in this chier.

1352
01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to boldly say, if Tyler Sodastrom isn't performing

1353
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:47.039
<v Speaker 1>well on June fifteenth, say hello to Nick Kurtz.

1354
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got no problems with that at all.

1355
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it might be earlier than that might be. I

1356
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:58.960
<v Speaker 1>think this is the put up or shut up here

1357
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.199
<v Speaker 1>for soda strm. You better it?

1358
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and you know you say the same thing,

1359
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at looking at the Marlins. Yeah, you

1360
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.319
<v Speaker 2>got Jordan and Bride and Matt Mrvis is there now,

1361
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 2>and you got Devison de Los Angles. If Bride doesn't

1362
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.880
<v Speaker 2>do anything in the first month of the season, Matt

1363
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Nervis will or de Los Angeles they'll do something there, right.

1364
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, I hope It'steela Santos. I really do. I mean,

1365
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Matt Nervis would be. You gotta be kidding me. Where's

1366
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Steela Santos? I would? I would be producing his T

1367
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>shirt that says free Dela Santo's.

1368
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you read my comment on Jordanah Bride? I

1369
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 2>found that.

1370
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's I will be the judge if it's a

1371
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 1>good writing and fascinating.

1372
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1373
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 1>The eleven home runs he hit last year in two

1374
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and thirty two at bats were good enough to be

1375
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the fourth highest total of the Marlins. Wow, it's pretty fascinating.

1376
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Two of the three players that best at Bride last

1377
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:01.520
<v Speaker 1>year aren't returning. Devison, d Lo Santo's to the rescue

1378
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 1>question Mark, that's a great write up to him. Well

1379
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 1>done there, thank you.

1380
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, his eleven home runs now puts him

1381
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the second highest home run total last.

1382
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Year after Jesus Sanchez.

1383
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's it.

1384
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Who hit what nineteen?

1385
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly. You want to you know, you google power

1386
01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:29.479
<v Speaker 2>odage and the Marlins logo comes up. That's crazy. Eleven

1387
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 2>home runs puts him the second highest home run total

1388
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:36.760
<v Speaker 2>on the returning players in Miami.

1389
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, it's funny we're talking about Tyler Soldis from I

1390
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't even read your little comment. There is significant power potential,

1391
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.079
<v Speaker 1>but lurking in the shadows is Nick Kurt's. The clock

1392
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.279
<v Speaker 1>is ticking, So Tim and I are thinking exactly the

1393
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 1>same thing. Timmy to take a break and then pop

1394
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:54.239
<v Speaker 1>around these last fifty or so that your names you got,

1395
01:17:54.279 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll wrap it up. Sounds good, apologize. I

1396
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>look down and we're gone an hour and twenty minutes.

1397
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you all day about this kind

1398
01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:11.479
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. This is just fascinating to me. Carlos Santos

1399
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:14.079
<v Speaker 1>is on my NFBC team.

1400
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Carlos Santana, you mean the Santos.

1401
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Carlos Santana is on my NFC team. I don't know.

1402
01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:24.800
<v Speaker 1>If it's good for me. But I kind of got

1403
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>caught out a little bit. I don't remember if it's

1404
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:32.399
<v Speaker 1>my corner infielder or I forgot where we're kind of

1405
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:36.039
<v Speaker 1>my first bat. But I kind of like Carlos Santos.

1406
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Carlos Santana coming into the season. I know he's old,

1407
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:43.640
<v Speaker 1>still makes great contact, he still hits the ball pretty hard.

1408
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:47.760
<v Speaker 1>It's going back home to Cleveland. It feels good to me.

1409
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gonna play at any time you're looking after

1410
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.560
<v Speaker 2>about the thirtieth player on the board. The fact that

1411
01:18:56.600 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna play, that should count. I like Santana better

1412
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>than LaMonte Wade Junior and Torkleson, who I've shuffled down considerably.

1413
01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We know Santana's gonna play. He's played well in the past. Yeah,

1414
01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:12.560
<v Speaker 2>that's got to count.

1415
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Would you gamble on Spencer Torkleson though, because he's I mean,

1416
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>there's too much power there for them for the Tigers

1417
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to completely ignore him? Right?

1418
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:29.720
<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, you can play all year at Triple A.

1419
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that would be a real bummer.

1420
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he abe would I know? I my love affair

1421
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>with Spencer Torkelsen. It's done.

1422
01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I like your number thirty eight. Yeah, I'm a little

1423
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:48.079
<v Speaker 1>bit lower than where he's going in the NFBC. But

1424
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Ronda, I can play a little bit. And I mean,

1425
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:55.960
<v Speaker 1>who knows if he gets an opportunity to play. Yeah,

1426
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a good player.

1427
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, I looked at him. I look to Tampa

1428
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Bray Bay, and you know, do they get him the opportunity?

1429
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Does he platoon? You know, he just throw everything into

1430
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:10.239
<v Speaker 2>the mix. And I he's not somebody that I'm overly

1431
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:14.359
<v Speaker 2>bullish on speak just speacause of the mitigating factors. I

1432
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:18.000
<v Speaker 2>feel much better about Miranda if he was on another.

1433
01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Chain somewhere else. I agreed. Nick Kurtz is at forty five,

1434
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Eldritch at forty six, and Jack Kaglianoli Kagliani is

1435
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>at forty seven. You get him very very late. I

1436
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>know you've got Kurtz ahead of Eldritch, ahead of Kaghliana.

1437
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is the guy that breaks out

1438
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and is much higher on this list next year out

1439
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of those three?

1440
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Kurtz, I think so too. I think he gets the opportunity.

1441
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.039
<v Speaker 2>And getting that opportunity, you know, all he's got to

1442
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 2>do is go on a tear and hit, you know,

1443
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.800
<v Speaker 2>ten homers in two weeks, which is possible, and all

1444
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he's a third round pick next year. Right.

1445
01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:04.079
<v Speaker 2>We know how recency bias, you know what I mean.

1446
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:06.319
<v Speaker 2>All it takes is a little bit of a hot spell,

1447
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's going to get the opportunity. The

1448
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.399
<v Speaker 2>other two, I've got them ranked in the order basically

1449
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 2>of opportunity right now.

1450
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Eldridge he might. He's got the most

1451
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>power of the three. I think Kurts is still the

1452
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:24.039
<v Speaker 1>best player of the three. I don't see that Kagalano

1453
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is going to get a shot, but I could be

1454
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>well agree because but I do think Kurts would be

1455
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys that if I were to truly

1456
01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Speaker 1>bat on somebody who could blow up in the second

1457
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>half and really help you, it might be Kurtz.

1458
01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's going to make a waiverwear article. I am

1459
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty confident in that, I think.

1460
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:50.319
<v Speaker 1>So what about let's sayhim give a couple more names.

1461
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, Zach's Desenzo with the Houston aste. Does he

1462
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get an.

1463
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Opportunity maybe in the ocean.

1464
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got a they got a pretty poor outfield.

1465
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I like the sense of it. It's a bummer. He's

1466
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like getting a shot.

1467
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Well again, they brought in Christian Walker, right, yes, so

1468
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a it's outfield d h or bust right yeah?

1469
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Well third base? Who's playing third base?

1470
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Uhman is? Oh, he's a free agent.

1471
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>A couple other interesting names. Uh Tyler Locklear h just

1472
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:36.039
<v Speaker 1>just fell off. They got one shot and didn't really

1473
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:39.119
<v Speaker 1>perform in this Everybody just writing this guy off.

1474
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I think, so, yeah, you know, when when I look

1475
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>at when I look at the skills of Luke Raley,

1476
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I I don't see him beating Luke Raley out for

1477
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a job. I rather like Luke Braley, especially with the eligibility.

1478
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I got him considerably hard in the NBC. I I

1479
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>don't see the Mariners heading in that direction unless there

1480
01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 2>is injury or severe struggles. So I've got him fairly low.

1481
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I never thought Tyler Lockley

1482
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>would be like a great player, but the fact that

1483
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>he seems to be written off is a bit of

1484
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>a bummer. I mean, he's still like young kids twenty

1485
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>four years old.

1486
01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:33.319
<v Speaker 2>M hm, that he is. But until I start hearing

1487
01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:38.640
<v Speaker 2>something positive coming out of Seattle, Like what do you do.

1488
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Does Anthony Rizzo get a chance to play in twenty

1489
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

1490
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>If he stays in shape in the second half, he might.

1491
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any idea where he's going to sign.

1492
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Not a clue. Whoever, du do injury needs a first basement.

1493
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>That would be the way I'd be approaching him with Rizzo.

1494
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So who's playing first base and C and diego? Because

1495
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Lewis the rises out there?

1496
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah? Probably a rise?

1497
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he is, wouldn't Anthony Rizzo looked better at first

1498
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>space and littles of rise. At least you get more

1499
01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:19.479
<v Speaker 1>power there.

1500
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Joey Gallow looked better. Fills the uniform. He gives you

1501
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>some power. But no, again, I should be that negative

1502
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>on a rise.

1503
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>But uh, you got Eggie Rosario sitting at DH. I

1504
01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>put Lewis a rise at d H and bringing a

1505
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>guy like Rizzo on a cheap one year deal or

1506
01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

1507
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to work with all the kids before

1508
01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>they trade him.

1509
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something like that, something like that.

1510
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I you look at his numbers, okay, and

1511
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>over the past two seasons. I'm just doing this off

1512
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>at the top of my head. I believe he hit

1513
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 2>twelve homers followed by eight homers last year. Like, I'm

1514
01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:58.439
<v Speaker 2>sure if they could get Rizzo, it would make sense

1515
01:24:58.479 --> 01:24:59.399
<v Speaker 2>to make a move like that.

1516
01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, your your buddy, Ben Rice. Try to tell you, Tim,

1517
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you would not listen too.

1518
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Stubborn me stubborn. I'm shocked you said you knew me.

1519
01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I look, I feel bad. I mean, Ben Rice, he

1520
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>was a guy that got off the snide really well,

1521
01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>looked like an unbelievable player, and the league just caught

1522
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>up to me. He's an okay player. He needs to

1523
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>get moved to get a shot. He's not gonna get

1524
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a shot in New York.

1525
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:35.359
<v Speaker 2>No, that ain't I agreed, But I think there's still

1526
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>enough skills if he if he is moved and gets it,

1527
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I think he can be an okay player, not great, Okay.

1528
01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let's let's get to the tough questions

1529
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>here for some time.

1530
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Say you didn't even list my bottom four. I I

1531
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>sort of smiled when I saw my bottom four.

1532
01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's look at ten bottom four Roddy to Laz,

1533
01:25:55.920 --> 01:26:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Justin Turner, Hose Bray really and Joey Gallo. Wow, Yeah,

1534
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess out of those, I might consider Justin Turner

1535
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>just because I think he's gonna play a little bit.

1536
01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do the other guys. I guess Justin Turner's

1537
01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>not not even hired, is he?

1538
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>No, none of they're all free agents.

1539
01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought just a Turner on the job. All right,

1540
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm wrong?

1541
01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, who knows.

1542
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Let's let's get to the tough questions here, my friend,

1543
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh break down and we did the top ten chance? Okay,

1544
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>which player not in the top ten has a chance

1545
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to emerge there next season?

1546
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Not in the top ten? I'm not going I'm not.

1547
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't say Spencer Steer, deer Berger, Bellinger, Goldsmith, Michael Bush, Toglia,

1548
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Hoskins Neck or boy good luck. Uh trying to be bold,

1549
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:57.399
<v Speaker 1>my friend.

1550
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think it might be. I'll go with Strand.

1551
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Really I'm going to be really really bold, really really

1552
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>really bold. Nick Kurkzer.

1553
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the other way, because it's.

1554
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Funny because you always want to take the eleventh guy,

1555
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>twelfth guy or whatever. And Timmy, I if those guys

1556
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>jump up, I'm bummed. I mean it's Bellinger, Goldschmidt, I mean, Bush,

1557
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>might Houstin Stile. They're just not very exciting.

1558
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, Luke Graley, it's twenty five.

1559
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Homer steels fifteen bases and drives any runs. Luke Raley

1560
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>could be a top ten first base. It's got to

1561
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>be somebody at first base. It's got to be somebody

1562
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>off the radar, deeper in the pack, because I just

1563
01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>don't see, you know, when I look at that group

1564
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:56.199
<v Speaker 2>from ten to twenty, other than Spencer Steer, they all

1565
01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:00.239
<v Speaker 2>come with their warts and they're not going away. Jake

1566
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Berger is never going to hit two seven of I

1567
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.479
<v Speaker 2>don't think Cody Bellinger. Yeah, Paul Goldschmith, you'd be at

1568
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven, thirty eight next year. Yeah. Michael Bush, I

1569
01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>think his steady is totally is all power and no

1570
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>batting average. Yeah, Hoskins to fourteen, I think more than

1571
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the bad.

1572
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if we if we look, if you look as

1573
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I got last year's rank here, I mean the guys

1574
01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that the two guys that really jumped up from last

1575
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>year were Michael Bush at four forty seven this year

1576
01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>at two forty two, and Totally at seven six.

1577
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1578
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Everything else is, you know, just kind of shifting back

1579
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and forth in the first base lot.

1580
01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I agree, I do.

1581
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Like those And you're throwing an Xavier or Isaac too.

1582
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's this this three guys that you had

1583
01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>grouped together with Kurtz, or this loops like Kurtz, Eldridge

1584
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and Man, Kurts and Aldridge, or the maybe the two

1585
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.199
<v Speaker 1>hope for the future in the next couple of years,

1586
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that the guys that can really provide some excitement to

1587
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the position. Yeah.

1588
01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>And know the reason that I listed Isaac because I

1589
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>think there's the potential there. But I've got him a

1590
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:18.399
<v Speaker 2>bit lower than those three because again it's the rays, right.

1591
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Give me a couple of sleepers, Tim, a couple of sleepers.

1592
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if I don't know if he's

1593
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 2>a sleeper, but you know I'm all over dol Santos. Yeah,

1594
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah.

1595
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:40.079
<v Speaker 1>But that might be more with your heart, right.

1596
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And then again we can bring up stubbornness into the discussion. Yeah,

1597
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>if I was looking at a total sleeper, I'd be

1598
01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>drafting Nick Kurtz. I really would. Ah, you look at

1599
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the situation in Miami, Mett nervous good at twenty five

1600
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.720
<v Speaker 2>home runs there, I will I'm not taking it.

1601
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I steak and liquor anything you want, I will do

1602
01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:09.359
<v Speaker 1>it on twenty five home runs.

1603
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:11.760
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I could do steak and liquor on

1604
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>there with Nervous is that he finishes outside of the

1605
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:15.279
<v Speaker 2>top fifty.

1606
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1607
01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>But other than that, you know, Josh Bell can hit

1608
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty five home runs. Yeah.

1609
01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>What's the last time he hit twenty five home runs? Though?

1610
01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Josh Bell, Well, let's just he's in Washington.

1611
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Did he get signed by Washington? He just got signed recently, right.

1612
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's in Washington. He hit nineteen last year. The

1613
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>year before he hit twenty two, he hit seventeen. The

1614
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>last time he hit twenty five was in twenty twenty one.

1615
01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>He hit twenty seven. Yeah, with Washington of ball teams.

1616
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, he goes back to Yeah, he goes

1617
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>back home. Basically, I think it's more fifteen to twenty

1618
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>home run pop and he's going to be competing with

1619
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:59.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody though, for with Nate Lowe, Well, are they gonna play?

1620
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll played, probably.

1621
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gonna DG.

1622
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1623
01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:07.199
<v Speaker 2>But again, Josh belget are in his keep for you

1624
01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:12.159
<v Speaker 2>because it's not a very expensive keep right, it is not.

1625
01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I I do like Ronda. I hope he gets a shot.

1626
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what it would be one of my guys that

1627
01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I would think. I don't see any calculus that gats

1628
01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Decenzo a shot, but that's a name to keep an

1629
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>eye on if somebody gets hurt and he gets a shot.

1630
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just you look at that oatfield and you would

1631
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>think maybe there is a chance.

1632
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, right, Yeah, man, I do look up born Olcarlo Santana.

1633
01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna hit twenty two home runs and you know,

1634
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>not crush you in batting average, on base skills, and

1635
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>be in the middle of a pretty good team, not

1636
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a great offensive team, but that's not a bad guy

1637
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for twenty three eighty kind of in what brown is

1638
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:55.399
<v Speaker 1>he going in? Thirty fifth round?

1639
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1640
01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:57.079
<v Speaker 3>Really?

1641
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Twenty three homers last year, seventy one RBI scort. Yeah,

1642
01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:04.199
<v Speaker 2>you look at his numbers over the past four years,

1643
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you get nineteen, nineteen, twenty three and twenty three. RBIs

1644
01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:11.199
<v Speaker 2>are sixty nine, sixty eighty six, seventy one. Yeah, the

1645
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>batting average two thirty eight to forty the two years

1646
01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>prior to that two o two, two fourteen. So I

1647
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I think I think there's he's a

1648
01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:26.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventy player. Yep, it won't kill you in batting average.

1649
01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Robp that's all right.

1650
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:30.359
<v Speaker 1>If he gets if you get stuck like I did,

1651
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:32.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not a not a horrible player.

1652
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Weaver Wire as much as Jeff Hoffman did last year.

1653
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Give me one. Give me a guy or two that

1654
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you're disavoiding drafting.

1655
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:45.399
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna limit it to one or two?

1656
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, somebody that's going early in the draft that

1657
01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:50.199
<v Speaker 1>you just don't want.

1658
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Freddy Freeman, I won't touch this.

1659
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:54.199
<v Speaker 1>You got it. That's good.

1660
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<v Speaker 2>Peter Alnzo, Yeah, uh, nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, you're you're you're going to avoid or nope, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>you will take him?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I am avoiding him.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, going down the list, I won't pay the price

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<v Speaker 2>for Cody Bellinger. I don't want Paul Goldschmid. I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Togalia. I didn't draft, so I just pure power

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<v Speaker 2>Louise Rise. If we know the story, I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to go through that one again. Yeah, Andy Diaz as

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<v Speaker 2>much the same for me as Luise arives. Ryan Ryan Mountcastle.

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<v Speaker 2>I know i'll'll talk about the wall and moving everything out. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not no. I don't see myself rostering Ryan Mountcastle

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<v Speaker 2>in any leagues other than the Oh five, because we've

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<v Speaker 2>got them and we're not letting go them. As Shanual

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<v Speaker 2>is again, are ten fifteen home runs enough? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm staying away from all idell for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>So is Freddy Freeman the bowl call there that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to finally fall from an elite performer here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to kind of put yourself out on

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<v Speaker 1>a limb for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am willing to say that. I think Freddy

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01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Freeman will be a very good player, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start seeing a bit of a decline.

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01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't see those twenty stolen base type seasons, and hey,

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01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.119
<v Speaker 2>it has to happen at some point in time. He

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<v Speaker 2>said that he's had an amazing career and he's still

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<v Speaker 2>a very good player, but I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he warrants right now a draft slot of twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Take our final break, Tim, come back and wrap this

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<v Speaker 1>puppy up.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds good, amazing stuff.

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01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Tim, just really really good stuff. So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week, are we at second base?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a that's a personal question. Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm hoping so hey, big hey, big boy at

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<v Speaker 1>second base. I mean, I don't know how you mean

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<v Speaker 1>to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, that's that's the goal that Okay, Yeah, I'm

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01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:32.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna be working on it as soon as we get

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01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:36.279
<v Speaker 2>off the air and and get Nader. So yeah, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>second base. It's on the agenda for next Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Tim, have a great Sunday. Off It sounds like

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01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you got some plans and the following Sunday, I'm going

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01:35:46.680 --> 01:35:49.479
<v Speaker 1>to need you to hopefully, uh maybe do it at

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01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>noon if that works.

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01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm cool with whatever works.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich, Yep, so we'll well, we'll talk about that sometime

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<v Speaker 1>between now and then. But great stuff, Tim, Any final comments.

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<v Speaker 2>No other other than like I said, hey, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your you've got the guys that you want, and then

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01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you've got guys that you're gonna you're gonna sort of

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<v Speaker 2>put up with. And in my books, I want one

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<v Speaker 2>of the I want one of the top tier for

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01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>first basemen. That's that's fairly important to me. This year.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree guys join us at the Patroons ipat

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<v Speaker 1>r o N dot com, port slash Prospect three sixty

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01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>one Top five hundred comes out this week. You get

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01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>extra details on Tim's all this, all of this is rankings.

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01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:39.159
<v Speaker 1>You get my draft targets. It's it's a great sight

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01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>over there. And you get a chance to support Tim

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01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and I for five bucks a month or fifty four

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01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars for the year. Tim, have a great week, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend

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<v Speaker 2>You as well, my friend, be safely, will and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>catch you next Sunday.
